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Huddle Up Podcast: Wednesday, April 28 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast with JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks,
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Speaker 1: and John Oshan. The Huddle Up Podcast starts right now.
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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, April
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, John Osan plenty to get
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Speaker 1: to shot con talks. The franchise is front end center
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Speaker 1: with the number one overall pick in tomorrow's first round
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Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft. Trevor Lawrence is cashing in already
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Speaker 1: or cryptoing in one or the other or both in fact,
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Speaker 1: final draft prep in Cleveland, and a couple of social
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Speaker 1: media topics today. Bucky, here we go. It's finally one
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Speaker 1: day away. We keep saying this every time. That is
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Speaker 1: finally two weeks away. It's finally a week away. It's
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Speaker 1: finally five. It's tomorrow. Yeah, most important draft in Jaguars
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Speaker 1: history outside of the first expansion draft, Like this is
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Speaker 1: it um, This is a chance to completely reset and
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Speaker 1: remake the franchise. Everyone will focus on the number one pick,
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Speaker 1: and that's presumably going to be trouble Lawrence, but really
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Speaker 1: it's the other picks and what Trent Balki and Urban
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Speaker 1: Meyer elect to do as they look man completely rebuild
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Speaker 1: this franchise. I'm really excited. I don't know what's going
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Speaker 1: to happen, but I can't wait to see whether new one,
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Speaker 1: improved Jaguars look like I think the storyline as we've
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Speaker 1: built up to this, built up to this, built up this,
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Speaker 1: now we're what thirty two hours away or whatever it is,
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Speaker 1: it feels to me like the storyline that's developing for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars the big thing you don't know do they
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Speaker 1: believe Obviously Lawrence is there and he's gonna be the story,
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Speaker 1: but the franchise building story, if you will, or the
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Speaker 1: or the bones of it is, do they feel like
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Speaker 1: they need to use those other nine picks to add
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Speaker 1: a bunch of players to this or do they feel like, hey,
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Speaker 1: we need to use and get up and maximize those
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Speaker 1: other four And when I say four, I mean they
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Speaker 1: have five in the top six. Do they want to
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Speaker 1: use some of their capital, maybe even next year's capital,
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Speaker 1: and try to improve those They're just gonna emphasize those
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Speaker 1: five or is this a big picture They're gonna have
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Speaker 1: six picts or ten? You know they have six really
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Speaker 1: cool toys or a bunch of toys under the tree,
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Speaker 1: so to speak and I don't really know the answer
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Speaker 1: to that. I think it's to be fascinating. That is
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Speaker 1: funny because jo I think I think you bring up
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Speaker 1: something that we talked about on the last pot where
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Speaker 1: how does Irvin meyer like view of the team building process?
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Speaker 1: Would he rather have a few marquee items or does
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Speaker 1: he want to go shop at the bargain basement? Ben,
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Speaker 1: I think my contention was a being at Florida and
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Speaker 1: Ohio state. He ain't doing a whole lot of bargain shopping.
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Speaker 1: He used to get those expensive suits off direct and
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Speaker 1: making sure that their tailored and customized to what he
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Speaker 1: wants wants. And with Valky history, as I think you
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Speaker 1: tweeted out JP, Trent doesn't really sit and wait for
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Speaker 1: guys to come to him. They're going to go and
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Speaker 1: get players. I believe we're going to see a very
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Speaker 1: aggressive team building approach from the Jaguars over draft weekend.
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Speaker 1: I went through the the San Francisco forty Niners history
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Speaker 1: with Balky there in control of those drafts. He was
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Speaker 1: in control of twenty two trades during the draft days themselves.
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Speaker 1: That doesn't include the days leading up to the draft.
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Speaker 1: There were a couple others. Of those two twenty two
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Speaker 1: alone in seven years, the Jags as an organization ever
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Speaker 1: have had thirty three of those, so seven years of work.
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Speaker 1: We'll see if if that works out. And we heard
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Speaker 1: urban Meyer last week, of course, trying to learn the
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Speaker 1: meaning of value in the NFL and the balance of that.
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Speaker 1: The next three days will be fascinating, of course. Subscribed
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Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, of course, but tell somebody
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Speaker 1: else and give us five stars and a comment. Well,
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Speaker 1: the franchise is front and center this week, and you know,
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Speaker 1: I guess personally I saw it coming. You know, the
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Speaker 1: headlines and the reporters around and NFL networks here and
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Speaker 1: all these folks are gonna be coming in on Thursday
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Speaker 1: to cover this thing. But now it's here, It's like, okay,
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Speaker 1: this is It's huge. I mean, this is playoff level
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Speaker 1: almost type coverage around here, because it's the number one
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Speaker 1: pick and shot. CON's out in the media now. He's
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Speaker 1: doing New York Times, he's doing Monday Morning Quarterback, he's
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Speaker 1: doing John Oshan and and Beat writers and everything Johnny,
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Speaker 1: Oh you got him earlier this week and explaining his
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Speaker 1: history with Urban and his excitement for the pick and
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Speaker 1: the organization moving ahead, and it just feels like it's
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Speaker 1: finally come do There's been a lot of work behind
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Speaker 1: the scenes to get to this point, a lot of
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Speaker 1: bad football to get to this point. To all that combined, John,
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Speaker 1: it feels like Mr Conas is ready to get this
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Speaker 1: thing going. They're not our little jag Wars anymore. J
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Speaker 1: They belong to the world. It's time to let the
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Speaker 1: little birdie fly. There's certainly an element of that, and
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Speaker 1: it's certainly cool. And uh, there's this double story that
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Speaker 1: is great for the media coming in. You've got the
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence story. So if you're within the old days
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Speaker 1: where you're going to your to your editors trying to
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Speaker 1: pitch the story, Hey, I need to go here to
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Speaker 1: do this story, Well, what else can you get? Well,
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Speaker 1: I get you an Urban ire story too. So there's
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Speaker 1: this double story, more meat on the bone if you will.
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Speaker 1: I think we talked about on this podcast. It's an
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Speaker 1: incredible thing. It's certainly merited, and I think what people
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Speaker 1: are going to start to grasp here the storyline this weekend.
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Speaker 1: When Trevor Lawrence gets here, You're gonna have a guy
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Speaker 1: who never lost a regular season college football game coupled
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Speaker 1: with a coach who just about never lost one. It
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Speaker 1: might be the winningest combination ever to start out. I
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Speaker 1: think Bucky had made this point a couple of weeks ago.
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Speaker 1: How that will change the mood of the building, change
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Speaker 1: the course of the building, and how they'll react to
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Speaker 1: that once this thing gets rolling, and how to really
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Speaker 1: play out. You know, I think it is the perfect
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Speaker 1: mix because the two most important people in the organization
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Speaker 1: outside of the owner and maybe the president, will be
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Speaker 1: the head coach and the quarterback, the franchise quarterback. So
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Speaker 1: as we assume that Trevor Lawrence is going to be
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Speaker 1: the guy with Coach Meyer, you have like personalities. And
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Speaker 1: the thing about the quarterback is the quarterback is the
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Speaker 1: extension of the coach on the field. And when you
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Speaker 1: hear the things that Coach Meyer talks about in terms
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Speaker 1: of competitiveness and the culture and effort and toughness and
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Speaker 1: all of those things and winning, and then you see
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Speaker 1: what Trevor Lawrence embodies. Man is really a perfect marriage
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Speaker 1: because in Trevor Lawrence. What we're talking about not someone
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Speaker 1: that just went in college. He went in high school.
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Speaker 1: And there's a thing Winners win, and when you want
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Speaker 1: to change the franchise, you have to collect enough winners
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Speaker 1: in the locker room that winning becomes the expectation. So
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Speaker 1: I not only expect Trevor Lawrence to be the number
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Speaker 1: one overall pick, I would think that the majority of
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Speaker 1: the player that we see coming in in the draft
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Speaker 1: are guys that come from winning programs, that understand how
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Speaker 1: to win. So the sale from coach Meyer when he's
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Speaker 1: in the front of the room, it isn't a difficult one.
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Speaker 1: It's the same message that these guys have heard for
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Speaker 1: most of their high school and collegiate career. We heard
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Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff, Bucky on the Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: three sixty on the Move of the six podcast you
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Speaker 1: and Daniel Jeremiah put together over the last really months,
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Speaker 1: I mean working on that for a long time, but
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Speaker 1: that was a thing. He's always been the top guy
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Speaker 1: wherever he's been, and everybody that was on that podcast
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Speaker 1: really supported, uh that theory there, and and it's not theory,
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Speaker 1: it's reality. He has been a winner and hopefully that
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Speaker 1: will continue moving ahead. But John, it's safe to say
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Speaker 1: Shot Khan is I don't want to now basking in
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Speaker 1: the glow is probably the wrong terminology here, but this
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Speaker 1: is a This is a big deal for the organization
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Speaker 1: and from Mr Khan as an owner. Well, look, owning
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Speaker 1: an NFL team is supposed to be more fun than
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Speaker 1: it's been for him in the last ten years, right,
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Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not minimized. I know fans will
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Speaker 1: hear that and say, well, it's it's his responsibility, but
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Speaker 1: Shod gets that. Shot gets that the buck stops with him.
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Speaker 1: It's also supposed to be more fun, and I think
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Speaker 1: it's okay for him to have fun with this. I
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Speaker 1: think they're all having a little bit of fun right now,
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Speaker 1: not publicly saying who the pick is because everybody sort
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Speaker 1: of gets it. But he's basking in the globe. But
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Speaker 1: I don't want to misrepresent the basking in the globe
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Speaker 1: part of the conversation I had with him early Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: along with four or five other beat writers. It's basking
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Speaker 1: in the globe, but it's it's very much mixed in
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Speaker 1: with the reality of look, just getting the number one
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Speaker 1: pick doesn't guarantee anything. He made the point of the
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Speaker 1: start of the conference call. You know, two or three
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Speaker 1: years ago, everybody was picking the Jaguars to go to
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, have to beat the Patriots in in
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Speaker 1: September two. He understands the height, whether it be by
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Speaker 1: the draft, whether it be that doesn't matter anymore. He's
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Speaker 1: in his tenth year owning it. He gets a lot
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Speaker 1: of He's not a rookie at this anymore. He also
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Speaker 1: grasps what an unbelievable moment this is. And I go back.
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Speaker 1: I didn't cover the Colts in when they started with
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Gopoli and Jim More, but there was a
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Speaker 1: restart where they brought in Peyton Manning, they brought in
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Speaker 1: uh Tom Moore, the opposite coordinator, running a new coach,
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Speaker 1: new president, and they had the number one pick, and
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Speaker 1: they had a generational number one pick. Those situations don't
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Speaker 1: happen very often because the generational guy doesn't come along
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Speaker 1: very often. Jaguars also happened to have compiled that with
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Speaker 1: a generational college coach, almost a generational amount of cap space.
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Speaker 1: And I'm overplaying the analogy here, but this is really
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Speaker 1: unusual and shod Gets. You know, he hasn't said this,
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Speaker 1: but I think he's well aware this is the only
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Speaker 1: chance like this he's going to get as an NFL
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Speaker 1: owner in his life. So he's very much aware of
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Speaker 1: the moment, but yet also understands the perspective of the moment. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think that that is really really key because what
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Speaker 1: happens is as more eyes are drawing to Jacksonville with
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and with coach because let's be honest, the
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Speaker 1: people are fascinated by how is the college coach going
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Speaker 1: to make his way in the league, the organization will
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Speaker 1: feel the pressure to step up and kind of raise
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Speaker 1: the bar. And so as coach Meyer is pushing internally, hey,
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Speaker 1: we've got to raise the standard. We need to have
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Speaker 1: the best, that's the best that there are a lot
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Speaker 1: of people that are looking to see will this be
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Speaker 1: the same old Jags or is this really a new era?
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Speaker 1: And so it's an exciting time and so if Shakom
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Speaker 1: really wants to elevate the franchise, man, it is all
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Speaker 1: about being in lost up with the head coach, the
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Speaker 1: general manager and the expectations that now would accompany the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars when they show up, said a couple of interesting
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Speaker 1: things JP that I don't overlook in this podcast. He
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Speaker 1: went out of his way. And you've interviewed Shot a lot,
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Speaker 1: so you sort of get how he works in an interview.
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Speaker 1: He didn't live, you know, and he doesn't volunteer things.
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Speaker 1: When he speaks, it's it's pretty transparent. He went out
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Speaker 1: of his way to say that Balky and Meyer didn't
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Speaker 1: start out this process locked in on one quarter back. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now people can scoff at that, Well, it was obviously
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Speaker 1: gonna be Trevor Lawrence, which I believe it was always
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Speaker 1: gonna end up being Trevor Lawrence. But when I was
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Speaker 1: a way to say, they the due diligence to make
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Speaker 1: sure whatever was absolutely done. He also said he's been
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Speaker 1: on a couple of zoom calls with quarterbacks, meaning Shot
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Speaker 1: has and was very specific about he understands the importance
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Speaker 1: of the quarterback position. Uh. He said, I was on
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Speaker 1: the phone call, I was on the calls with the
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Speaker 1: usual suspects. But he also said he was involved with
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Speaker 1: those because he's learned over ten years that's the position
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Speaker 1: you can't screw up, and it it sort of speaks
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Speaker 1: to the bigness of this moment and a pretty couple
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Speaker 1: of obvious things, but not stuff that I had heard
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Speaker 1: Shot talk about. Yet good stuff there. Check out the
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Speaker 1: articles on jaguars dot com with Jaguars owner Shot con
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Speaker 1: ahead of the NFL Draft of course on Thursday night
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Speaker 1: as the travel camp and do Ball Draft twenty one.
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Speaker 1: And as we record this podcast, I'm looking out over
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Speaker 1: t i A Bank Field from the press box and
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Speaker 1: they got the stage set up on about the ten
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Speaker 1: yard line to my left and then socially distant boxes
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Speaker 1: on the field which will be open. And then the
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Speaker 1: seats around the seating bowl in the south end zone
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Speaker 1: and both sides of the stadium in the lower bowl
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Speaker 1: will be open. So expecting over six thousand here on
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night for the opening round and it should be
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Speaker 1: a fun show throughout Ashland. Sulladon will lead the way
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Speaker 1: on the stage. Some player guests Urban Meyer schedule to
12:29
Speaker 1: make an appearance out on the stage as well. So well,
12:32
Speaker 1: tickets are sold out so you can't register anywhere, but
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Speaker 1: if you're coming, congratulations, it's gonna be a fun one
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Speaker 1: tomorrow night here at the bag. And how many of
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Speaker 1: these do you get? JP? How many. You go to
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Speaker 1: the draft party. Yeah, right, yes, I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: draft party. I've got to work the draft party. So
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Speaker 1: I've got more of those in the last two weeks.
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Speaker 1: Hey boy, I see at the draft party. Well you'll see.
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Speaker 1: But I'm not to be thrown back. But he's ill.
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Speaker 1: And nobody, nobody ever asked you. Hey, you going to
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Speaker 1: Saturday to cover those Well yeah, we'll be there all
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Speaker 1: day Saturday too, the seventh rounder from Utah and you
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Speaker 1: gotta grind out that story. Oh that's what it's about, Bucky.
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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, John, that's right. We gotta have
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Speaker 1: all those picks so you can stay around. So you
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Speaker 1: stay around and finish it up. Bitter man, those deep
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Speaker 1: those deep dives. John is a bitter man. He said
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Speaker 1: it himself. Trevor Lawrence most likely could be the number
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Speaker 1: one overall pick. He's already making money though apparently, you know,
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Speaker 1: there's some pundits and folks outside the marketplace, fans on
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Speaker 1: Twitter and all this of other teams. Oh he's get toll.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. I'll let you do that,
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Speaker 1: saying he's going to Jacksonville. He won't get the big
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Speaker 1: endorsement deal that he would have got in New York
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Speaker 1: or any of these other big mark at teams and
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Speaker 1: all that. Well, he assigned with Adidas. Okay, he assigned
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Speaker 1: with Gatorade, the first quarterback to do so. I think
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Speaker 1: since Cam Newton back in a while ago, Bows Headphones
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Speaker 1: and then a crypto investment at Blockfolio is paying him
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Speaker 1: in cryptocurrency apparently according to a story, and the list
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Speaker 1: is I think only just beginning. So you know maybe
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Speaker 1: a ninety five or nineteen seventy that was a real
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Speaker 1: thing marketplace. You know, there wasn't a big national there's
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Speaker 1: no Internet, you know a lot of those days. Well,
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Speaker 1: now you can follow Lawrence and the Jaguars from literally
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Speaker 1: anywhere in the world in the modern digital era. So
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Speaker 1: endorsement deals will come if you're marketable. Doesn't really matter
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Speaker 1: where you are, Bucket, it feels like to me, No,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you are. It also doesn't matter
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Speaker 1: when you come from a place where you bring people
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Speaker 1: with you. Meaning he's been on a big platform. He
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Speaker 1: was a guy that was hailed and celebrated a SQB
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Speaker 1: once in high school. He goes and was the national
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Speaker 1: title at CLIPS and so he's a brand name by himself,
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Speaker 1: and so he brings that in so as he gets
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Speaker 1: more recognition here to bring more recognition to the Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: So I think this is really a great thing. But
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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here looking at the mural that they have
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Speaker 1: defeat the know the noise ruled the quiet. Have you
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Speaker 1: seen that with Trevor oh buffed out? I wonder if
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Speaker 1: his brother did the artistry on that. But it's not
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Speaker 1: It's a nice little thing. He has Cartersville, Cartersville, right,
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Speaker 1: it might be on the corner of Cartersville, like the hometown.
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Speaker 1: Maybe let's shout out for him those bowl headsphone? I
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Speaker 1: might have to, might have a m Trevor, can you
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Speaker 1: some some headphones? You know, some different Anybody who thought
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Speaker 1: this kid wasn't going to be marketable because he came
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Speaker 1: to Jacksonville are idiots. They have no idea what the
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Speaker 1: league's about. They have no idea what social media it's about,
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Speaker 1: and any idea what this kid was about. He's as
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Speaker 1: marketable and a lot of it's because of the hair,
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean people love it, people love the personality.
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Speaker 1: He's recognizable, brandable. If you really thought that Gatorade was
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Speaker 1: gonna say now, you know, we'd like you better if
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Speaker 1: you if you were in New York. Again, if you
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Speaker 1: alluded to it, it's not like nineteen where the guys
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Speaker 1: were walking out of their office on Madison Avenue and going, Okay,
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Speaker 1: we gotta get somebody local in here. You know, Twitter
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Speaker 1: has completely changed and Facebook's movie changed it all that
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Speaker 1: he was obviously going to be marketable. Now if he
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Speaker 1: had been a lesser type player, perhaps that kind of
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Speaker 1: thing might have something to do with it. If he's
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Speaker 1: talking about getting local endorsements, then of course in New
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Speaker 1: York's got more money than Jackson. But if you're talking national,
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Speaker 1: the number one overall picked with this kind of image
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Speaker 1: was always going to be able to get endorsements. It
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Speaker 1: works quarterback playing well, marketable everything on and off the field,
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Speaker 1: and here we go. He's off and running, making that
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Speaker 1: cash and crypto already, And those who placed deposits for
16:52
Speaker 1: new season tickets, well, the seats selection process is now underway.
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Speaker 1: Check your email, visit Jaguars dot com or called nine
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Speaker 1: oh four six three three two thousand. There are a
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Speaker 1: team of representatives ready to help you get back in
17:05
Speaker 1: the bank in one Also, you might get a phone
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Speaker 1: call from one of the three people on this podcast,
17:11
Speaker 1: and the guy that's talking right now, there was a
17:13
Speaker 1: call that went out earlier this week to get you
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Speaker 1: to look out for that email, the phone call and
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Speaker 1: all the rest. So we hope to see you here
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Speaker 1: very soon now. Of course, the draft is in Cleveland,
17:23
Speaker 1: Ohio this year, on the banks of Lake here, right
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Speaker 1: by the Football Stadium and the Rock and Roll Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame, but not a huge contingent of players attending
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Speaker 1: this year. Thirteen I believe Bucky in person this year.
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Speaker 1: You know, in the past, obviously it's been thirty to
17:38
Speaker 1: forty depending on who wants to go. That's the post
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Speaker 1: COVID kind of kind of deal right now. But thirteen
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Speaker 1: in person, a bunch of other guys online. It sounds like,
17:47
Speaker 1: you know, like it's it's funny because like to have
17:50
Speaker 1: everything in person. We heard all the stuff about the
17:53
Speaker 1: commissioner being able to either his bump, hug or whatever
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Speaker 1: it is that he likes to do with the prospects
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Speaker 1: he wants. They hear the name call, they walk across
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Speaker 1: the stage like that. Stuff is cool. Having reporters and
18:04
Speaker 1: people on the ground and having a little bit of
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Speaker 1: energy in the statum will be exciting, and so I'm
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Speaker 1: excited that some of these kids would get an opportunity
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Speaker 1: to kind of live out their dreams as they saw
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Speaker 1: and they saw it as they envisioned it. I think
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Speaker 1: it's a really cool deal. And I think even though
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Speaker 1: the I guess the old guy on the lawn in
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Speaker 1: me is like, oh my god, can we get through
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Speaker 1: the weekend and just kind of have to be done,
18:23
Speaker 1: sometimes we do need to pause and thing like, hey,
18:25
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool that guys will hear their names called,
18:27
Speaker 1: and even those guys that don't hear their names called
18:29
Speaker 1: the time Freezing contract, they have a chance to do
18:32
Speaker 1: things that they've always dreamed about. Some of the good moments.
18:34
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, what year were you drafted? Bucky?
18:37
Speaker 1: Remind me, so, would you have ever like bro hugged
18:43
Speaker 1: tag Leaboo? Was that? Would that ever have been? I
18:46
Speaker 1: know you probably weren't the draft, but you know, well,
18:48
Speaker 1: I mean I would have been really I was really excited.
18:50
Speaker 1: I would have been really excited. I would have jumped
18:51
Speaker 1: in his arms if he wanted me to, like everything.
18:54
Speaker 1: The main thing, I just would have wanted the hat
18:56
Speaker 1: and and all that. Can I get the hat and
18:57
Speaker 1: the complementary jersey. UM kind of have the picture with UM.
19:01
Speaker 1: It's a very stressful time, Like it's a very stressful day.
19:05
Speaker 1: It's a stressful day because back then, God, I think
19:07
Speaker 1: you did the first three rounds on the first day,
19:09
Speaker 1: in rounds four through seven to second day, and so JP,
19:14
Speaker 1: I want to say the draft started at three three thirty.
19:18
Speaker 1: I didn't get a phone call to after ten man.
19:20
Speaker 1: By that time, I was, I was, I was wallowing
19:23
Speaker 1: into my sorrows about sliding down the pole and all
19:27
Speaker 1: this other stuff, and am I ever gonna get people?
19:30
Speaker 1: Anybody ever liked me? All of that? So it's a
19:34
Speaker 1: stressful day, Mandy, everybody. I've sat in enough of those
19:42
Speaker 1: because I was with a newspaper. They were signed like
19:46
Speaker 1: a local guy. You know, you go and sit at
19:48
Speaker 1: their house, sort of wait for them with them. I've
19:51
Speaker 1: sat through some experiences where you know, there was one
19:54
Speaker 1: year I went. I won't name the player, but I
19:57
Speaker 1: went and they didn't get picked on the first day
19:59
Speaker 1: to go back the next day and yeah, you're sitting
20:02
Speaker 1: there and the and the sandwiches just about gone. The
20:04
Speaker 1: potato salad is getting moldy on the end, and it's
20:08
Speaker 1: you know, it's uh. It does make you appreciate as
20:11
Speaker 1: a journalist. As a fan, I'd always watched the draft
20:14
Speaker 1: as a fan. You're watching two hundred and seventy guys
20:16
Speaker 1: whatever the number is, it gets drafted, and you think
20:19
Speaker 1: of it as this broad picture. When you're sitting there
20:23
Speaker 1: with the kid who pick after pick after pix there
20:27
Speaker 1: you realize that for that kid, there's only one story,
20:30
Speaker 1: and it's a tough story. When that happens and they
20:33
Speaker 1: start going down, you know, it's uh, it's a tough
20:35
Speaker 1: situation to be around, moving and dying. And what I
20:38
Speaker 1: tell these guys because guys get mad about me about
20:40
Speaker 1: mock drafts or whatever, and I say, hey, man, don't
20:42
Speaker 1: hate me. I understand it. But look, this is a
20:45
Speaker 1: soap opera. We're real character and so the mod draft
20:49
Speaker 1: it is a soap proper that we kind of used
20:51
Speaker 1: to have storylines. Unfortunately, you guys are real characters, and
20:54
Speaker 1: on draft day, all of that stuff that you've heard
20:57
Speaker 1: for the month leading up to it, you've tended to believe.
21:01
Speaker 1: But some of that stuff, I hate to tell you
21:03
Speaker 1: is either clickbait or narratives that we like to generate,
21:07
Speaker 1: so we have talking points and so you have to
21:08
Speaker 1: kind of ignore the noise. So I do feel bad
21:11
Speaker 1: for some of the players that would be affected by
21:13
Speaker 1: those things that don't come to fruition. But at the
21:16
Speaker 1: end of the day, if you have an opportunity to
21:17
Speaker 1: go to the league, you should be able to celebrate it.
21:19
Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast, A p Shadrick ton Osher,
21:22
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, and one final note on the draft in Cleveland.
21:25
Speaker 1: Round to the Legends. NFL legends from each team will
21:29
Speaker 1: announce the pick this year. Kevin Hardy will announce the
21:33
Speaker 1: Jaguars draft selection in the second round or selections. There
21:37
Speaker 1: are two of them, at least for now, first round
21:41
Speaker 1: pick of course, second overall out of Illinois lineback with
21:43
Speaker 1: the Jags. One first team All Pro and Bucky your teammate. Yeah,
21:49
Speaker 1: k hard Man, look at k hard announce some picks.
21:52
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what he looks like. Harry
21:54
Speaker 1: still have been working out, TV's still be shaped or
21:56
Speaker 1: if he's uh kind of become a legend beyond being
22:00
Speaker 1: one in his own mind. He's pretty good shape, He's
22:03
Speaker 1: pretty does he does some stuff for the Jags. Yeah,
22:05
Speaker 1: he's get good, yeah, K, because I never get to
22:13
Speaker 1: uh Daily's Place schedule. By the way, May five a
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Speaker 1: w Dynamite, Blood and Guts. The name of the show
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22:24
Speaker 1: That's Pieces of the Tanesky Trucks Band June eleventh, June twelve,
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Speaker 1: July twenty one. Tickets available now at Daily's Place dot com.
22:36
Speaker 1: Let's get to social media today. And normally we have
22:38
Speaker 1: a you know a lot of days, we'll have a
22:40
Speaker 1: bunch of questions. We've got one today. But the story
22:43
Speaker 1: on social media today, at least from this trio on
22:47
Speaker 1: this podcast, Bucky Brooks stir it up the Baltimore Ravens
22:52
Speaker 1: aunt bed today and and poking that fan base with
22:56
Speaker 1: a stick a couple of times, because apparently you go
23:00
Speaker 1: on a show earlier this week and say, you know
23:04
Speaker 1: what they should get Justin Fields and let Lamar Jackson
23:10
Speaker 1: the m v P graduate and move on so they
23:15
Speaker 1: don't have to pay him a big contract, and Pro
23:17
Speaker 1: Football Talk put it out there, put a long story
23:19
Speaker 1: about it. I saw Bamony Jones ripping you in the
23:22
Speaker 1: pieces all these people on social media today. So what
23:26
Speaker 1: do your theory? I want to hear what you have
23:29
Speaker 1: to say for yourself, Bucky Okay, so one I think
23:33
Speaker 1: what people have to understand. I use Lamar Jackson. That's
23:35
Speaker 1: something that I believe some teams will begin to do,
23:38
Speaker 1: much like we've seen moneyball in baseball have an impact
23:41
Speaker 1: on the way teams go baseball teams in football, and
23:43
Speaker 1: you can play moneyball if you think about the quarterback,
23:46
Speaker 1: not as the franchise quarterback that we celebrate, but hey,
23:49
Speaker 1: he's a commodity. And if you don't have one of
23:53
Speaker 1: those top five quarterbacks, the guy that we celebrate like
23:55
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes, then you
23:58
Speaker 1: have to seriously consider how much are we willing to
24:01
Speaker 1: pay for a guy who isn't great. Let's bring this
24:04
Speaker 1: back home to Jacksonville. Blake Bortles. What do we feel
24:08
Speaker 1: about Blake Bortles? When Blake Borders was nearing the end
24:10
Speaker 1: of his deal, you pick at the fifth year option,
24:13
Speaker 1: which is fine, but are you really willing to pay
24:15
Speaker 1: him what the market rate is for quarterback? Even though
24:19
Speaker 1: you know he's not that guy. So what I proposed is,
24:22
Speaker 1: let's take a collegiate look. Let's use the collegiate model
24:25
Speaker 1: where you bring the quarterback in. You have the quarterback
24:28
Speaker 1: under your control for at least five years with the
24:30
Speaker 1: fifth year option, maybe seven years, with the ability to
24:33
Speaker 1: use the franchise tag. If you're the Baltimore Ravens, then
24:36
Speaker 1: you have Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson wants to command maybe
24:39
Speaker 1: forty million plus dollars. Do you really want to pay
24:42
Speaker 1: that for maybe a guy who's a run around quarterback.
24:44
Speaker 1: If you don't want to pay that, then the best
24:47
Speaker 1: thing to do would be, how can I grab the
24:48
Speaker 1: next quarterback that can do similar stuff the athletic quarterback JP.
24:52
Speaker 1: You know from calling games in college, it's a lot
24:55
Speaker 1: easier to find those guys that can run around and
24:58
Speaker 1: make plays the traditional status quarterback. And so if college
25:03
Speaker 1: is supplying that, why not take that approach. Hey, every
25:07
Speaker 1: four or five years, would do like Alabama or Clemson. Ay,
25:10
Speaker 1: one five star comes in, another five star goes out,
25:14
Speaker 1: and we continue to keep the system. Because when you
25:16
Speaker 1: have a quarterback on a rookie deal, it allows you
25:19
Speaker 1: to build up the rest of the team. So now
25:21
Speaker 1: I can have the best offensive line, the best playmakers,
25:23
Speaker 1: the best defense, and I only need that guy to
25:25
Speaker 1: punction in a role. And so that's what I was suggesting,
25:28
Speaker 1: based off of Eric the Costas comments saying, hey, it's
25:32
Speaker 1: a little tight if we have to pay them, I
25:33
Speaker 1: don't know this, and the changes the dynamic. Hey, don't
25:37
Speaker 1: eat me hate your general manager because your general manager
25:41
Speaker 1: suggested it. I just took the Betinda ran with it
25:43
Speaker 1: across the finish line. People managed senior called Bucky. I
25:47
Speaker 1: don't know that the Ravens said it at the time,
25:50
Speaker 1: but there was an acknowledgement amongst football people that that
25:54
Speaker 1: might have been what the Ravens were doing initially with
25:56
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. And it may have been you may have
25:58
Speaker 1: been a commentator. I've thought it was somebody from the
26:01
Speaker 1: Ravens sort of talking about it. And let may be
26:04
Speaker 1: wrong about that, but that was my understanding of what
26:07
Speaker 1: they were doing when they brought Lamar Jackson in, you know,
26:09
Speaker 1: put him in place of Flacco in the first place.
26:12
Speaker 1: I think your theory has a lot of merit now,
26:14
Speaker 1: as you know. The trouble with that is it's great
26:18
Speaker 1: in theory. Can you pull it off when you've got
26:21
Speaker 1: a guy who's won an m v P in there,
26:22
Speaker 1: or is there such you know, if any organization could
26:25
Speaker 1: do it, it would be an organization like the Ravens,
26:28
Speaker 1: the Steelers. You know, one of those organizations where the
26:32
Speaker 1: management and the philosophy of those organizations is so in
26:37
Speaker 1: place that they're sort of impervious sometimes the outside criticism
26:42
Speaker 1: because they'd be a mood that would get ripped. But
26:44
Speaker 1: those kind of organizations can sort of withstand that because
26:47
Speaker 1: they've been doing it their way for so long they
26:50
Speaker 1: have a belief in what they are. I don't know
26:51
Speaker 1: the Ravens will do it, but I certainly get Bucky's point.
26:54
Speaker 1: But here's the other thing too, Like what it does
26:56
Speaker 1: if you operate like that, did you say, look, the
26:58
Speaker 1: more we want to make sure we pay you. We
27:00
Speaker 1: recognize that you want the top talents. But the teams
27:02
Speaker 1: that have winning Super Bowls aren't the ones with the
27:05
Speaker 1: quarterbacks at the top of the pool chain. Even though
27:07
Speaker 1: we talk about Pat Mahomes, big deal, Pat Mahomes this
27:10
Speaker 1: year on the cap count seven million dollars. So when
27:13
Speaker 1: you wonder how they can go and bring over Orlando Brown,
27:16
Speaker 1: or they can bring over some of the other guys
27:17
Speaker 1: that they signed, Joe Tuney and those things. It's because
27:20
Speaker 1: those guys have been able to make sacrifices and so
27:24
Speaker 1: as you're building the team, if you put too much
27:26
Speaker 1: of the pie, too big of a pie, piece of
27:29
Speaker 1: the pie goes to the quarterback. It makes it hard
27:31
Speaker 1: to god on the rest of the part. All right,
27:32
Speaker 1: that's one theory on social media the earlier this week.
27:36
Speaker 1: Let's get to the question today from Att Denton Thomas. Hey, guys,
27:39
Speaker 1: since Urban said he wants a media value from the
27:41
Speaker 1: first three rounds, what positions do you see at sixty five?
27:47
Speaker 1: And John, you've kind of been all over this the
27:49
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks that they need to get certain
27:52
Speaker 1: things done, but they only have five picks in the
27:55
Speaker 1: first couple of days to do that. They want value,
27:57
Speaker 1: and I don't think Urban was necessarily saying we have
28:00
Speaker 1: to have guys who are going to come in and
28:02
Speaker 1: start right now. And when I say that, I mean
28:05
Speaker 1: if there's an offensive lineman there that makes sense. I
28:08
Speaker 1: don't know that player is gonna come in and start
28:10
Speaker 1: right away. So I do think there will be at
28:14
Speaker 1: that position. I would be surprised if they don't try
28:16
Speaker 1: to get something in those top five picks for the
28:19
Speaker 1: future because of the contract situations with can Norwell Lender,
28:24
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not Lender, Camon Robinson. So but overall, you know,
28:29
Speaker 1: the answer that the uh, the question I think I've
28:32
Speaker 1: been saying all along. I think they're going to draft
28:34
Speaker 1: to playmaking speed guys in the first Maybe that kicks
28:41
Speaker 1: back to include that hundred and six pick whatever that
28:43
Speaker 1: number is, the top of the fourth. I think somewhere
28:46
Speaker 1: in that top six they are trying to get more
28:49
Speaker 1: explosive on offense and add dynamics. Urban and ballk You
28:54
Speaker 1: have both talked about it too much to make me
28:56
Speaker 1: think that they're going to ignore that in the draft.
28:58
Speaker 1: And on top of that, you know, safety still makes sense.
29:01
Speaker 1: And I'll defer to Brian Sexton on this. He started
29:03
Speaker 1: talking about playmaking big time linebacker a couple of weeks ago,
29:07
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, Bucky and I've talked about it
29:10
Speaker 1: a little bit. I thought a month ago and I
29:11
Speaker 1: first talked to Bucky about the draft, no way this
29:13
Speaker 1: team would go linebacker with where a couple of these
29:16
Speaker 1: big time linebackers might fall. If a big time guy
29:19
Speaker 1: is there are twenty five. I wonder if they won't
29:21
Speaker 1: take it. You know, it's funny that you say that,
29:24
Speaker 1: because there's been buzz and conversation about the Jaguars taking
29:28
Speaker 1: a linebacker at and up in the anty. When it
29:32
Speaker 1: comes to the speed thing, John and Davis from Kentucky
29:35
Speaker 1: has been bandied about. Jeremiah wilsu Corp Moore from Notre
29:40
Speaker 1: Dame has been thrown in there because he has some
29:42
Speaker 1: of that hybrid playmaking ability as a linebacker's last safety um.
29:47
Speaker 1: When you think about urban mind the defenses that he
29:49
Speaker 1: had at Ohio State, the one thing that stood out, man,
29:51
Speaker 1: they played fast, and as you think about what Joe
29:54
Speaker 1: Collen has done and been around in Baltimore, it's about
29:57
Speaker 1: the speed and the explosiveness. And so I could see
30:00
Speaker 1: the Jaguars going linebacker there. I also can see them
30:03
Speaker 1: taking a defensive tackle at this spot. I know we've
30:06
Speaker 1: mocked a safety there for so long that you kind
30:09
Speaker 1: of get used to it. But really, if you want
30:11
Speaker 1: to be a dominant defense, you have to be strong
30:12
Speaker 1: down the middle, and you want to be strong in
30:15
Speaker 1: the front seven for sure. All right, do you haven't?
30:17
Speaker 1: Social media questions are in thank you for the submission
30:20
Speaker 1: this week. Blucky, You've got Fox Sports Radio tomorrow night
30:24
Speaker 1: for the first round. Yeah, Fox Worts Radio. So it
30:27
Speaker 1: should be exciting. Get a chance to be on the call.
30:29
Speaker 1: Kevin Burkhart, j Glazer, the bar Arrington, just out here,
30:34
Speaker 1: just spitball and see him what happens should be Wow,
30:38
Speaker 1: you want everyone to know. I mean, you talk about
30:40
Speaker 1: your king. I feel like I gotta throw my big
30:42
Speaker 1: joker out every now and then too. I love it.
30:45
Speaker 1: That's tomorrow night, and you'll be with us a good
30:47
Speaker 1: bit on Friday and Saturday as well. Bucky will look
30:50
Speaker 1: forward to that. Johnny, Oh, we've got coverage. Boy. The
30:53
Speaker 1: next three days are gonna be really hot and heavy.
30:56
Speaker 1: It's our big three days really of our entire off season.
30:59
Speaker 1: We build up to this thing from the end of
31:01
Speaker 1: the season until Tomorrow night through Saturday. Yeah, and there's
31:04
Speaker 1: so much JP I couldn't even push one thing. I
31:07
Speaker 1: know Bucky and I will be provided just the next
31:09
Speaker 1: day type coverage the next day thoughts. I'm looking forward
31:12
Speaker 1: to that. We've never done that before. All draft, all
31:15
Speaker 1: the time for seventy a few hours. Let's go do it.
31:17
Speaker 1: Let's do it. It's here Bucky, we'll talk to you
31:20
Speaker 1: soon to be fun man looking forward at the end.
31:22
Speaker 1: And to approved Jack. You know I think we all are. John,
31:24
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