Latest / What Do You Call It? Podcast! / 📖ABI CARTWRIGHT🖋 talks books, gimmicks, EVE Wrestling, PlayFight, NightShade, reading & more

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📖ABI CARTWRIGHT🖋 talks books, gimmicks, EVE Wrestling, PlayFight, NightShade, reading & more · What Do You Call It? Podcast!

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  Hello and welcome to another episode of What Do You Call It
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  podcast. I am your host GB.
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  It's been nearly a month without me, so I know a lot of people
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  have missed me, but I am back better than ever working on my
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  tan as it is the summer holidays, right?
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  Cringe. I know, I know.
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  But we're not here to talk about my tan.
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  We are here to talk to today's guest.
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  She's an author. She's the author of wrestlers
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  most highly anticipated novel, The Abby Cartwright Chronicles.
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  Please welcome Abby Cartwright to the show.
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  How you doing, Abby? You're good.
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  Hello, I'm well, thank you. I'm well.
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  I'd actually love to talk about your tan because yesterday I was
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  really proud of my tan and I showed someone and they looked
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  at it and they were like, what tan?
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  So I'm very much in the mood for complimenting people's tans at
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  the moment. See it has gone away a little
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  bit now because the recipe's caught up a little bit but my
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  hand for about a month and 1/2 was tanned because I was
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  refusing to wear like short sleeve shirts and stuff so and
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  just got tan so most people noticed at work.
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  So I was like, oh shit, nothing I can do now.
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  But yeah, the rest of me caught up there, so that's good, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, brilliant. Now you look glowing.
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  Appreciate, appreciate it. Nah, God smoking now.
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  Oh God, Abby. Abby.
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  So I want to follow up for my intro for you.
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  So I'm mentioning the highly anticipated novel, The Abby
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  Cartwright Chronicles. I want to go to the beginning of
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  this novel and I want to discover how you became a pro
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  wrestling fan. Ah, so very good question.
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  So it's very, you know, it's such a cliche answer.
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  So I watched wrestling as a kid because I have an older brother.
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  So that's how I kind of got into watching it when I was younger.
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  And we'd always just kind of like play wrestle.
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  And by play wrestle, I mean, he would always beat me up.
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  So not much is really strange with my wrestling career, to be
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  honest. So, yeah, we did that as a kid
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  to go to watch, like, my parents would take us to go watch WWE
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  and stuff. And, you know, when you're a
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  kid, you wanted to like, people want to be like astronauts,
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  Cowboys, princesses. I just really want to be a
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  professional wrestler, so when I left school I just decided to go
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  and do it before I regretted not doing it.
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  Nice. And when you did leave school
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  and you told people you were going to pursue this dream, what
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  was their initial reaction? Oh, so you know what?
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  So I didn't tell people for ages.
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  I think the only people who knew were like my parents and like my
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  brother. So I was just like, oh, and
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  wrestling. So embarrassing.
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  Imagine being an adult and liking that.
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  So yeah, I just never really told any of like, my friends or
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  anyone for ages. My parents were always quite
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  supportive of it. But yeah, I just didn't tell my
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  friends for a while. And now, like now I'm a lot more
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  comfortable telling people that I'm a professional wrestler.
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  But yeah, no, they always just, everyone responded really, like
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  positively towards it. You would always get some people
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  being like, making the comments about, oh, it's a fake though,
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  isn't it? The classic stuff you'll never
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  be able to avoid. But yeah, no, everyone's always
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  been quite encouraging, thinking it's really cool, which is very
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  nice. So I always feel really bad that
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  I used to be really embarrassed about it.
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  Nice. And now you're proud you're on
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  posters now, how does that feel, by the way, when you're on these
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  posters that are going around on the Internet or even local
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  areas, stuff like in Essex and London, and you see yourself
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  like that's really fucking cool. Or do you have a sort of
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  response to it? So sometimes I think it's really
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  cool. Other times when it's a really
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  bad photo of me being used, I'm like, why?
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  Yeah, especially at first, like, so I have like a little
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  wrestling memory box where I have like, so I have posters
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  from shows and stuff. And I think I've got posters
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  from like, really my, like my early days, which is really
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  cool. And even just like being
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  advertised for some shows, Like EVE put up a post the other day,
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  other day advertising their upcoming show, like listing all
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  the wrestlers on it. There was like Billy Stark's
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  Bose, not Bose. That was a surprise.
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  Rain Levakuzin. And I was like Nina Samuels and
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  Abby Cartwright, and I was like, holy shit, I'm being advertised
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  for an EVE show. Yeah.
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  So it's always just like, really cool when you're like, actually,
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  yeah. I like, I'm a star.
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  I'm great. Yeah.
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  It is quite nice. Yeah.
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  And you are an author, did you, you know, you're probably saying
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  like he did all the moves to you and so he got you into the
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  wrestling as well. Did he ever step foot in the
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  ring or even try it? No, so he's never.
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  So his whole kind of wrestling career has just been Batista
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  bombing me onto our sofa. So we used to do like martial
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  arts and stuff together when we were kids.
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  So he was always getting more into martial arts.
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  So he does like visually in jiu jitsu.
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  I did like try and push him to come to like a wrestling
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  training session to try it out sometime, but he's just never,
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  never had the urge to do it. I don't think Sash.
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  I also think that he's he would be a little bit embarrassed to
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  try it and be bad at it. I get that I think.
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  Yeah. So yeah, I just don't think he's
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  tough enough for it. With your MMA background that
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  you said that you both did there sort of that when you're
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  younger, do you feel that sort of benefited you when you would
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  go into wrestling training? Yeah, for sure at the start.
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  So obviously wrestling is like very different for apart from
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  Marshall, it's very different from any like sport you would do
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  as a kid. Like people transition from like
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  football or basketball into wrestling.
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  It's completely different coming from like a martial arts
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  background. So I did a bit of karate, but I
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  mostly did jiu jitsu. So using that to go into
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  wrestling was really helpful just because I was a lot better
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  of all the roles, you know, all the bums, breakfalls.
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  After that it was no help at all.
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  But for but for that part, it was kind of nice and it felt a
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  little bit more natural going into kind of this world that is
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  very scary and different. And where did you train?
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  Martial arts. No wrestling.
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  Wrestling. So it's been I've been in for a
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  few. When I first started, it was the
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  Portsmouth Repro School of Wrestling and then one of the
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  coaches there, Rishi Ghosh, opened his own school, Quality
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  Wrestling. So I did it there and then I
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  moved to London a couple of years ago where I started
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  training at Play Fight. And that's kind of, I'll always
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  say that's kind of like my main training home Play fight.
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  Hello there, I've got a very special announcement for my next
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  guest. Yo, what's going on, guys?
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  It's the youngest in charge, the youngest X Division champion of
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  all time now boy Leon Slater, and I'm going to be on the What
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  do You Call It podcast, You get me?
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  Your head. Yeah, I am.
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  I have nothing bad to say about the coaching style for Play
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  Fight Car and Noir, Nina Samuels, absolutely fantastic
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  coaches. Yeah, both very, both very
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  similar and very different in their coaching styles, which is
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  really nice. Obviously, I'm sure everyone
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  knows I'm a big fan of Nina Samuels, so I won't go, I won't
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  go over about her now. But so for Car and Noir, so Nina
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  Samuels was the reason I wanted to go to Play Fight because I
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  wanted to learn from her. So I actually wasn't that fussed
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  about, you know, Car and Noir or learning from him, but I'm
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  actually just such a fan. He's such, he's just such a
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  lovely coach, lovely guy. And it was always really funny.
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  So when he went through his phase, when he broke his foot,
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  there were sessions where he would start it just apologizing
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  in advance. Just saying I've had a really
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  bad day. If I'm short with any of you
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  today, I apologize. Then he'll just go through the
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  rest of the session being like the loveliest guy in the world.
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  And he's always just so delightful to kind of be around,
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  learn from, and he's just so good.
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  He breaks everything down into such kind of granular details to
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  help you understand it. He's very good at pushing you
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  when you need to be pushed and also knowing when something's
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  just not for you. So he's very good at kind of
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  understanding people's coaching styles and learning styles as
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  well, which is really nice. And the facilities are just
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  great there. I would highly recommend
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  Playify. It's just such a wonderful
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  school with wonderful people. Nice.
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  Nice, when did you make your in ring debut?
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  The first ever match you had in front of a crowd.
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  Oh oh so my. So if we're going all the way
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  back to when I started doing trainee shows, this would have
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  been in 2019, back pre COVID when I trained at Quality
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  Wrestling. I think it was like that first
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  ever student show. I had a singles match against
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  Lila Kyle, who has not stopped following me around in my
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  career. It was against her and I only
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  had like 2 weeks notice so I'd only recently come back to
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  wrestling maybe about two months a couple of months before this
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  show and someone pulled out so he asked me to fill in and I was
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  so nervous. I'm pretty sure I cried like
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  every day for two weeks leading up to the match.
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  But it was a lot of fun and I'm really glad I did it.
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  Like your first one's always terrifying.
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  She just never know what to expect.
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  It was a lot of fun. I wrestled Lila Kyle.
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  I was the bad guy. I also won, as you would expect
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  from, you know, an Abby Cartwright, Lila Kyle match.
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  And she was also going through a phase as well where she would
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  come out of like party poppers. So at the end of the match after
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  one I got one of her party poppers and party popped her in
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  the face. Nice.
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  Yeah, which is, it was very satisfying, actually.
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  But yeah, so it was my first ever kind of like training match
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  in front of a crowd, which was nice.
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  It was a very nice, intimate venue and it was really scary,
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  but everyone there just made it seem so nice and easy, which is
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  what you'd want really. I.
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  Guess nice, but you're at ease and you can look with a smile as
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  well because you hear some horror stories.
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  But it's good that you can look back.
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  Have you, have you actually been able to watch it?
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  Was it recorded that debut match?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've watched it back.
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  I am back at the back to, you know, around the time period
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  when it happened. I watched it back.
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  I am. I couldn't think of anything
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  worse than watching it back now. I think it would make me
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  physically I'll to watch myself back like from back then.
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  I hate. Watching myself, that's probably
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  a compliment though, because you've seen like how much you've
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  grown like as a performer. Not saying the Queen could make
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  me laugh at the same time be like oh shit, I did that move or
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  whatever. But same time you say like OK I
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  was there and look where I am now.
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  Yeah, no, that's actually, that's a very positive way of
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  actually thinking about it. Cuz I'm just thinking if I watch
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  it, I'd give myself the ick. Yeah.
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  But know that, yeah, from a growth perspective, it would be
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  very good to like compare how far I've come from then till
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  now. Yeah.
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  No, I do, I do. Maybe I will watch it back one
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  day. I'm sure I do have a copy of it
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  somewhere. And the fact you were a bad guy,
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  I do think you have done some of your best work as a bad guy.
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  I have a lot of your batches on YouTube in preparation.
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  I saw one match as a babyface. Fit your team up with Bow Bells.
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  Oh, OK, yeah. That's good.
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  Now, no one as a hill one as a hill just before just worked so
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  well. But you've got to tell me about
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  the Abbey Wright Chronicles, how you've incorporated this special
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  book, this novel that is still being written as we speak.
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  Yeah, the Abbey Cartwright Chronicles.
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  Yes. The Abbey Cartwright Chronicles
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  is just a story about my wrestling career based on kind
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  of true events that happen in it.
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  Yeah. Which is really fun.
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  It's just one of those things where, like I, I love reading,
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  which will be a surprise to no one.
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  I love reading. I love books.
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  I always have. And I love wrestling as well.
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  So it's always really fun to be able to like combine the two of
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  them. And it's just it got to the
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  point where I was like, I've read so many books that are like
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  books are good, books that are bad, some that are just so like
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  mediocre. I'm like, what was the point of
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  this book? I was like my rest, like
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  wrestling's just such an interesting world and there's so
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  much you can write about it. And I think especially where
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  Abby, like, obviously I'm very small and I always started my
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  career off as kind of the underdog.
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  Even now, I'm still normally always the smallest person in
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  the match. So it's very it's kind of just a
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  fun story to tell from you know, I had this little so when Abby
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  Cartwright started, she was a babyface.
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  She was just this little kind of happy go lucky babyface who
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  loved books to grow into kind of who I am now.
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  And it's just been a fun journey.
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  It's a lot of character development, a lot of fun other
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  characters as well. It just makes for, it just makes
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  for such a fun novel and a perfect read.
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  There's just so much to write about in the world of wrestling,
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  in the world of my career, that it just, it just made so much
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  sense. I was like, why don't I just do
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  both or I don't? I write a book about my career.
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  Yeah. And it's going really well.
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  Sometimes it doesn't go to plan, which is really annoying, and I
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  hate when that happens. But yeah, otherwise it just,
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  yeah, it's really fun and it's really delightful to be able to
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  do both and to have kind of a pen and a book in the ring with
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  me as well. It's just it's really fun to be
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  able to use that as well, which I think is it's different to use
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  in wrestling and it's nice as well.
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  When I come out to the room without a book and a pen, I
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  always feel really naked and uncomfortable.
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  So I feel like they've become a part of me now, which is which
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  is really cool to have. Just something else I love in
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  there with wrestling too. You did tell me the book is not
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  with you today. At the time of recording, I
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  thought I was a little bit guided for this podcast with
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  sort of squeeze its way into the the book.
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  Oh. Oh, no, it definitely.
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  It definitely still can get in there.
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  I am, yeah. Unfortunately, I just don't.
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  I'm away. I'm away from home today.
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  And sometimes you just need a little bit of a break to get
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  some clarity from the book and the story just to come back with
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  some fresh eyes. So there's nothing book related
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  happening this week, unfortunately.
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  But I will remember this to it's my first ever podcast, so I will
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  remember this to write about it. Of course.
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  So you will make. It in Yeah, you will make it in
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  Yeah, you will make it in. It might be just a line being.
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  Oh, I spoke to George, full stop.
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  We'll see. 20 minutes late and then later on had a cup of tea.
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  Great. I mean there will be a cup of
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  tea had after this for sure. Nice.
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  They have coffee. I think you'll have I'll pound.
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  It's more. The good thing about this
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  gimmick that you have is this say the best gimmicks are
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  yourself amped up by 100 and you get to sort of incorporate what
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  you love. The fans were involved as well.
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  Notice it always gets a good reaction when you come out in
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  the entrance and while they're doing the introductions.
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  You can use it as a weapon. There's so much fun.
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  You can have it and it's working.
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  It's a it's a good act, Thank. You thank you very much.
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  And one thing I do want to mention about this book, because
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  it's still being written at the moment, one wrestler who will
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  appear quite frequently in the book, not shade.
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  It's how is the feud that you've had with her for quite a while
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  now. Yeah, so, so Nightshade's
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  actually the person I have wrestled the most in my career.
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  So really the feud of Nightshade so really spans my entire
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  wrestling career. So all the way.
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  So I date my had like my proper wrestling debut with SWF and
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  Kapow. It would have been about 2021
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  and my first match was supposed to be against Nightshade, so.
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  And I was really nervous for that because obviously it was
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  Nightshade. People would love to wrestle
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  her. And I was like, me just this
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  little trainee being like, oh, I get to wrestle Nightshade.
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  I was shitting myself. But she was like, she was so
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  lovely. Like she used to come down.
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  She would come down to training to help train with me, help
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  prepare me, help put me at ease for the match.
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  And then unfortunately, she got injured and had to pull out.
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  But that's her story to tell. But yeah, so I ended up
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  wrestling someone else and I don't think I ended up wrestling
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  her for maybe about 6-7 months after that.
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  It just never really, it never really happened.
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  And we've wrestled at other places as well.
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  But the main kind of base for our feud and all our matches
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  have been at SWF and Kapow. And again, like the Abbey
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  Cartwright story, it all came from when I was a tiny little
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  babyface, very new. And Nightshade was kind of the
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  big bad villain at this time to we did kind of a full swap.
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  So Nightshade went babyface. I turned hill.
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  I started becoming a horrible person.
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  I started using weapons. I started breaking all the
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  rules. And it worked.
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  I became champion. So it worked.
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  I became the longest reigning SWF women's champion of the
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  modern era. Yeah, Thank you.
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  Yeah. So Nightshade and I just
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  wrestled all throughout kind of these four years.
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  We're just constantly. It was always her winning.
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  Then I got to the point where I was always me winning and there
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  was a lot of back and forth till eventually it all kind of came
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  to an end in June. So it, well actually before we
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  go out, we go back to September back at The Hobbit.
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  So first and foremost I absolutely hate The Hobbit pub.
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  Horrible plays, horrible crowd. I did see all your captions on
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  your Instagram. Yeah, I hate it.
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  And I never win that. I always lose.
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  So I hate it so much. So I had a so I had a title
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  defense against Nightshade that day and I ended up losing my
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  championship to her then, which was very scatting.
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  And then Kapow had an over 18 show that same day and
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  Nightshade was wrestling Nina Samuels for my championship.
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  So I cashed in my rematch clause that night lost, which was
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  actually very sad because it was it was just kind of like it was
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  pathetic fallacy in full force. It was dark.
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  It was pouring down with rain. I lost my championship.
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  This will. Be left out of the chronicles I
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  assume. No, this is an important, like
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  it's the key plot point in the story.
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  As much as I didn't want any of this to happen, it was just very
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  important. So yeah, I was pouring down with
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  rain. I cashed in.
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  In hindsight, it was a really stupid time to cash in.
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  So yeah, I cashed in a Nightshade and my coach
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  thinking, yeah, I'm going to win this, but it was all just very
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  emotionally charged and I lost within a minute.
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  So it was not, it was not a good day to be Abby Cartwright that
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  day. So Nightshade won my belt and
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  then she buggered off to Japan and we didn't see her again for
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  must have been like 8 months or so before she came back to
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  Kapow. So she took my belt and took it
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  hostage, which was really annoying.
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  And then she came back. I and I got under her skin
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  enough. Because I do think The Hobbit
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  match was unfair. They shouldn't have made me put
• 18:06
  my championship on the line in the venue where I always lose.
• 18:10
  It's very cursed. The odds were sacked against me
• 18:14
  and it just wasn't very fair and I didn't like, it was very
• 18:16
  unkind. Literally, right.
• 18:18
  So yeah, I got under Nightshade skin enough that she she let me
• 18:22
  pick the stipulation for our next match, which was in June at
• 18:27
  Southampton. So and obviously I wasn't just
• 18:30
  going to pick a normal match. I had all the power this time.
• 18:33
  So I was going to stack all the odds against her.
• 18:36
  So I created my own match type for it, which was very fun.
• 18:41
  And it's a match that I will always say is probably my
• 18:43
  favorite match that I've ever had.
• 18:47
  So it was very much kind of, I'd say 3 stages of hell match meets
• 18:51
  the Duchess of Queensbury rules match.
• 18:53
  So Nightshade didn't know the match until she was out there.
• 18:57
  They were split into three acts, each with its own time limit and
• 19:00
  each with its own stipulation and set of rules.
• 19:03
  So Act 1, and I also narrated the match as well at the start
• 19:07
  of each, at the start of each act, there'd be a video of me
• 19:10
  that came on the titantron explaining like what the next
• 19:14
  act was going to be. That's quite cool.
• 19:16
  Yeah, it was really fun. But so act one, was it just the
• 19:19
  singles match? And when that was announced,
• 19:21
  there was a guy in the crowd who audibly booed it.
• 19:26
  He booed when it was announced. At the first, it was a singles
• 19:29
  match. I think you just want to see
• 19:30
  carnage. And I was like, I'm so sorry to
• 19:32
  disappoint you, but I've got a story to tell here.
• 19:35
  So we had a singles match, then Acts 2.
• 19:38
  So this was where it really went into my favorite.
• 19:40
  So because I knew what all the acts were going to be in
• 19:42
  Nightshade didn't at the ACT changes, Nightshade had to watch
• 19:45
  the screen to figure out what was happening next.
• 19:48
  And the next act was a street fight.
• 19:50
  So while she was watching the screen figure out what was going
• 19:52
  to happen, I snuck out of the ring, grabbed the kendo stick,
• 19:55
  came in, and as soon it started, just started attacking over
• 19:58
  kendo stick. Very smart.
• 20:03
  And that was Act 2. There are a few rule changes in
• 20:06
  it as well. So during Act 2, I changed the
• 20:09
  rules so Nightshade wasn't allowed to use any weapons.
• 20:12
  Yeah, had a little rewrite. Started the ACT again.
• 20:15
  And then we went into Act 3, which was a submissions match,
• 20:19
  so they were all very carefully. All the acts were kind of picked
• 20:24
  to partly kind of tell the story of the feud Nightshade and I'd
• 20:28
  had over 4 years. So it singles match, she would
• 20:31
  overpower me at the start, as it was at the start of that story
• 20:35
  Street fight, Abby Cartwright turned the evil turned to
• 20:38
  weapons and she was on top and then would go into submissions
• 20:41
  match. So I chose a submissions match
• 20:45
  specifically because Nightshade, I don't think she has ever won a
• 20:49
  match with submission. I have won lots of matches of
• 20:52
  submission. So I was like, that very clearly
• 20:54
  favors me. Clever.
• 20:56
  Yeah. And I did not know she was
• 20:58
  actually a very big user of the Walls of Jericho.
• 21:01
  I found that out the hard way. My back has not been the same
• 21:04
  since. And she actually, yeah, she
• 21:07
  really put up a fight in the submissions match.
• 21:09
  I did not think she was going to be as good as submissions
• 21:13
  wrestling than she was. And I was very, I was very
• 21:15
  surprised at that. But yeah, eventually I won.
• 21:19
  So. But she towards the end of the
• 21:23
  match, she'd put me in Wars of Jericho.
• 21:26
  I was about to tap because I'm always one step ahead.
• 21:29
  I had a video ready to play on the titantron which distracted
• 21:33
  her enough and it also told the store and I also was Abby Khan I
• 21:37
  Cartwright narrating how off you'd started.
• 21:41
  So it mentioned about her pulling out of our first ever
• 21:43
  match, how gushed I was, and she pulled out because she broke her
• 21:47
  ankle. And just me reminding her that I
• 21:50
  have never once forgotten about her ankle.
• 21:53
  And it's like throughout the match I slowly started to target
• 21:57
  the ankle and while she was distracted watching that video,
• 22:03
  I hit her with the book. She got me in a sleeper.
• 22:07
  I stabbed her in the eye with a pen.
• 22:09
  I opened my book to reveal that it had been hollowed out, pulled
• 22:12
  out some rope, tied her up to the turnbuckle, and I concerted
• 22:16
  her ankle as she rightfully deserved.
• 22:19
  And then she ended up tapping out and I won my championship
• 22:24
  back. Glory Tone.
• 22:27
  And justice was restored and the division was back to the way it
• 22:30
  should be. But yeah, that was always one of
• 22:33
  my favorite matches and it was one of those ones that I am.
• 22:36
  I really enjoyed doing the three act structure match and I would
• 22:39
  love to do it again, but it's now.
• 22:42
  Fine, it's your thing. That's the thing.
• 22:43
  Yeah, difficult, but that could be your match, you know, I'll
• 22:47
  take on the casket match and, you know, Jeff Hardy ladder
• 22:50
  match and stuff. Heavy Cartwright, the three
• 22:52
  stages. Why not?
• 22:53
  Hell, but you know. Yeah, the React structure match,
• 22:56
  yeah, that's what I would like. It's.
• 22:57
  It's one of those matches where there needs to be a reason to
• 23:00
  use it. Yeah, Oh yeah, every weekend.
• 23:04
  Yeah, I mean, I would love that every weekend, as hard as it
• 23:06
  was. But yeah.
• 23:08
  And just, it worked so perfectly with Nightshare because we had
• 23:11
  just had this feud that was born so organically over kind of the
• 23:15
  four years over my entire career at Kapow.
• 23:17
  There was just she was the perfect opponent to do that
• 23:20
  match with and it was just a lot of fun.
• 23:23
  It really tested me as a wrestler and it was just it was
• 23:27
  great to just try something new and actually put into and
• 23:31
  actually be able to use the Abbey Cartwright Chronicles in a
• 23:33
  way that maybe not everyone will understand, but the people who
• 23:36
  have been following will see what is what is happening, which
• 23:41
  is just it was just really nice and really fun and just
• 23:43
  something I think it was a bit different, especially for the
• 23:46
  Kapow crowd. I love it.
• 23:48
  I love it told a great story. Obviously you got the win, it
• 23:53
  ended your way, but then there's also revenge.
• 23:56
  And it's one of the stories. I just don't think it's not
• 23:59
  going to end. And it just, yeah, who who knows
• 24:03
  what is going to happen next. That's the thing.
• 24:05
  Hello there. I've got a special announcement
• 24:06
  for my next guest. What's good people?
• 24:10
  You already know it's Swift Sonic, Jaden Williams, and I'll
• 24:14
  be the next guest on the What do you call the podcast?
• 24:18
  Because there's only one Swift Sonic and you looking at him.
• 24:30
  How does the Abby Cartwright Chronicles end?
• 24:34
  Very good question. So the Abby Cartwright
• 24:37
  Chronicles will end when my wrestling career ends.
• 24:40
  So who knows how it's going to end?
• 24:43
  It's all very it's very up in the air.
• 24:45
  I have an idea of how I wanted it to end, but we know stories
• 24:48
  don't always go to plan, so we'll have to.
• 24:50
  We'll have to wait and see. I still feel like we're just
• 24:53
  only at the beginning. Yeah, I, I, I definitely agree.
• 24:57
  There's so much, there's so much story to tell, so much
• 25:00
  potential, so many different characters to have involved, so
• 25:03
  many different places to go. And I feel like it's really,
• 25:07
  really, really starting to kick off now, which is very exciting.
• 25:13
  Never 1015 years. I believe it'll be on the front
• 25:16
  of Waterstones. Some Americans might not know
• 25:19
  what the hell I'm on about right now.
• 25:22
  Sure, I'll have to Google after this.
• 25:24
  If Waterstones is in America, it's a bookshop basically.
• 25:28
  Maybe David Smith? Few other book shops.
• 25:30
  Yeah, Barnes and Noble, all your local indie book shops as well,
• 25:35
  all your wrestling schools on every March stand.
• 25:37
  Would you narrate it or would you get like a celebrity to do
• 25:40
  it? The narration for the audiobook.
• 25:42
  Oh. If I didn't audiobook well so I
• 25:45
  actually this would be surprising considering how much
• 25:48
  I talk. I actually hate the sound of my
• 25:50
  own voice, yeah. So I don't know if I would want
• 25:54
  to narrate it, but also maybe maybe it's my story, so maybe I
• 25:59
  should narrate it. I.
• 26:01
  Think it's only right for you to do it, to be fair, but you know,
• 26:03
  maybe Morgan Freeman, but it's definitely at work.
• 26:07
  I mean, I'd love him to do my my narration, my eulogy.
• 26:09
  Oh, really? That's weird.
• 26:10
  Obviously not anytime soon. But you know, if I'm going, if
• 26:14
  I'm going out early, like I'm getting him to do it, James or
• 26:17
  Jones ain't here anymore. So you.
• 26:20
  Know important yeah it's foreign stream big yeah.
• 26:23
  I. See it.
• 26:24
  I see the vision. What a bit dark.
• 26:26
  Now let's put a positive spin on this.
• 26:30
  Few questions have come in for Abby Cartwright.
• 26:32
  As I asked the fans submit the questions on my Instagram.
• 26:35
  The conductor Freddie Hussain, good friend of the show, great
• 26:38
  guest. He wants to know Cardiff Martin
• 26:41
  is if you have no sorry if you know any cool train books.
• 26:46
  Yeah, so there's this really niche 1, you might not have
• 26:49
  heard of it, but it's called Thomas the Tank Engine.
• 26:53
  We'd highly recommend if you're looking for training books.
• 26:56
  I think they've adapted it into ATV series as well.
• 26:59
  So different, different platforms for you to enjoy that
• 27:02
  story. There.
• 27:02
  There you go. Thank you.
• 27:05
  There you go. Anthony 48 Davis has asked who
• 27:09
  is your dream opponent on the indie scene?
• 27:12
  Oh, very, very good question. So there's a couple.
• 27:15
  First and foremost, the one I would always say is Session with
• 27:18
  Martina. There is nobody that I would
• 27:21
  love to hit in the face more with my book than session with.
• 27:25
  And I mean that as a compliment. I just think we would have such
• 27:29
  a fun kind of prop heavy shenanigan, heavy character
• 27:32
  heavy match. And it would just, I feel like
• 27:35
  we would just gel so well out there.
• 27:37
  I've got a chapter in my book waiting for her just for the
• 27:40
  day. Someone please books it.
• 27:43
  So yeah, she's number one, but there's also others, you know,
• 27:45
  Charlie Evans. I would love to work.
• 27:48
  Yeah, she's cold. She's a good guest.
• 27:50
  Yeah, she's signed as well, so I don't know if it counts, but she
• 27:53
  was at Eve the other day, so I think it should.
• 27:55
  But Billy Starks would absolutely love to work her as
• 27:57
  well. There's a few more, but
• 28:00
  Sessimoth's number one as A tag team, I would love it if me and
• 28:05
  my tag partner Alexander Lockhart, if we did Team
• 28:07
  Heartright versus Hyperactive. I think that would be a lot of
• 28:10
  fun. I'd love to do that as well.
• 28:13
  But yeah, Sessimoth is #1 if my wrestling career ends without
• 28:16
  ever having wrestled Sessimoth, I would be incredibly upset.
• 28:20
  That's the ending that we do want.
• 28:22
  Then that's in my team though that.
• 28:24
  Can be the final chapter. I I can I honestly think that
• 28:28
  can happen very soon, very soon. Not that I'm I've got the it's
• 28:33
  the worst match. I can definitely on your story.
• 28:36
  Come in soon. Get tickets now and it'll be a
• 28:38
  fun match to watch in crowd or and he also wants to know
• 28:43
  Anthony Foyette Davis. He's asked, was Bo Zilla the
• 28:47
  scariest wrestler you faced? I think the question should be,
• 28:52
  am I the scariest wrestle Bo Zilla's faced?
• 28:57
  Yeah, Not going to lie, it's kind of terrifying.
• 29:00
  Yeah. When when I had the interaction
• 29:02
  with her Eve the other day, I was screaming for Nina to come
• 29:05
  help me. Nina did not come help me.
• 29:09
  Billy Starks actually came and saved me.
• 29:11
  Yeah, she got Bozilla out of my way, which is very nice.
• 29:14
  But yeah, Bozilla, there's just something really terrifying
• 29:16
  about her. Her size, her aura, like her
• 29:20
  entrance with the smoke. She is, yeah, terrifying.
• 29:24
  I don't feel I'd get a vote of her as a fan.
• 29:26
  I'm just happy like I'm. Yeah, I think that's a smart
• 29:30
  thing to be. I think the best thing to do is
• 29:31
  just stay out of her way completely.
• 29:34
  Yeah, that's definitely a terrifying one.
• 29:36
  But yeah, I know she's probably, definitely, probably up there
• 29:38
  with the scariest people I've come come across in wrestling
• 29:42
  for sure. Awesome.
• 29:43
  Great question people. Thank you very much.
• 29:46
  One last question, normally ask 3 June dinner guests but I'm
• 29:49
  going to keep it book related. OK.
• 29:54
  Not on me. So I asked that question.
• 29:55
  To wrap up the show, I'm going to ask you to pick three books
• 29:59
  that you think would make good weapons against your opponents.
• 30:06
  Some questions I've never asked before.
• 30:08
  That's what makes this podcast great.
• 30:09
  But this is a fun episode. Go for it #1 give me the first
• 30:12
  book. So what was it?
• 30:15
  War and Peace is the biggest book.
• 30:17
  It's the longest book, isn't it? Very sure that's the biggest
• 30:23
  book. Yeah, I would, but it has to be
• 30:25
  a hard back cover. Hard back cover of War and
• 30:27
  Peace. That will that would definitely
• 30:29
  give someone a good concussion if you hit them with the head
• 30:31
  with it. Nice.
• 30:33
  And who would your opponent be for it?
• 30:36
  Maybe that's the one I say for session with.
• 30:38
  There we go. Maybe unless, unless someone
• 30:41
  really gets on my nerves before then.
• 30:43
  But yeah, if that's so much I'm going out on, we're going to go
• 30:46
  out on the high. So that one, what else is there?
• 30:51
  Oh, complete work of Shakespeare.
• 30:54
  I think that will. If you can get that in one book
• 30:56
  that would be That would be a mighty hit as well.
• 31:00
  In the final one, any Harry Potter books you're going to
• 31:03
  squeeze in there? Oh, I could find some Harry
• 31:06
  Potter ones. They yeah, some of them big as
• 31:09
  well. Was it the Order of the Phoenix?
• 31:11
  That's really chunky. Chunky one I.
• 31:13
  Think these pages. The one like, you know, don't
• 31:15
  count at night 7? Was it night 6?
• 31:18
  It's worth a lot of the money. I'm just like, go sell it, go
• 31:19
  sell it. But yeah, I think that would
• 31:24
  also, I think the paper and the Harry Point ones will be good to
• 31:26
  some paper cuts as well. So yeah, I can see that.
• 31:31
  I can see that. I'm sorry you didn't ask me the
• 31:33
  three dinner guest one. I was preparing for that one.
• 31:36
  Go on then, go on then as you prep for it.
• 31:38
  We're going to a night. Then one more question.
• 31:41
  This is the final question. It's the final thing when I ask,
• 31:44
  oh, how can the fans find you on such media?
• 31:45
  But do you dream dinner guests for your dream party?
• 31:49
  Give me the three gifts as to why you want them there.
• 31:51
  Let's go #1 boom. Number one, so number one's
• 31:54
  Chapel Rd. Just love her #2 no, it's just a
• 32:02
  standard one. Also, Nina and Samuels is a
• 32:04
  really obvious answer for this so I'm just going to completely
• 32:06
  exclude her from this because it's just too obvious #2 will be
• 32:11
  either Liv Morgan or Bailey and I can't decide which one so they
• 32:15
  might have to share a seat. I'll let you have them both.
• 32:17
  I'll let you have them both. I can have an extra guest,
• 32:20
  perfect. And then #3 going down more the
• 32:24
  author's route, I would love to have one with Alice Ozman as
• 32:27
  well. But in this dinner party,
• 32:30
  because I'm the host of it, I've also wanted to pick like the
• 32:33
  like the team as well. And I really want the chef to be
• 32:36
  car in a while just because I have this image of him in the
• 32:40
  kitchen. You know, that's the stereotype
• 32:41
  of chefs being like, really angry.
• 32:42
  Yeah. I just have this image of him
• 32:45
  like an all white like white face paint on in the kitchen
• 32:48
  like cooking the food, just raging snarling at everyone.
• 32:52
  Yeah. Like, yeah, like, no, no, no
• 32:55
  swear words, just complete silence.
• 32:57
  Just all rage on his face. Like you'd send food back and
• 33:00
  he'll just snarl at you. It's not throwing plates.
• 33:03
  I just, I know there'll be no carbs at this dinner, but I
• 33:05
  just, I think it would just be such a funny image.
• 33:08
  If anyone can do Clara Noir as a chef, like as an image, maybe a
• 33:12
  thumbnail, like just hit me up, that'd be great.
• 33:16
  I'm in there. If you can, that'd be much
• 33:18
  appreciated. But now, great selections with
• 33:22
  the books and the guests are nowhere just at the beginning of
• 33:25
  your novel, the Abbey Cartwright Chronicles.
• 33:29
  I'm looking forward to seeing what else you had in there and
• 33:33
  then in a couple more years we'll see how it finishes.
• 33:37
  But still 8 days for you. Where can the listeners find you
• 33:40
  on social media? Cool.
• 33:42
  So I've got my Facebook account, Abby Cartwright, or you can find
• 33:47
  me on Instagram at Abby Cartwright under score PW and
• 33:51
  that's Abby spell ABI the way it should be spelt.
• 33:54
  But yeah, that are the only two places I have accounts for to
• 33:58
  come find me there. Wicked, wicked.
• 34:00
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• 34:15
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