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MotoGP Testing, KTM's management, rumors, MotoAmerica, Suzuki and off-season discussed in S5 Ep 42 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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  3 so much just umm, you know, time tests, time attack matters
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  in these tests and situation. And what are your thoughts on
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  all you guys on Baja coming in and with Katie?
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  Is it is it certain brands you, you start to umm, you know, put
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  stickers on their car because you don't like them anymore for
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  next year. Should Suzuki be doing more for
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  for the motorcycle culture? What would you be doing right
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  now for your offseason prep for next season?
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  Talk about some of the prep stuff that you guys do.
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  What are your thoughts when you hear people say, you know, so
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  it's too expensive to go to track.
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  That's why I don't go. Welcome back to another edition
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  of the Be Forever Cool podcast. My name is Rex 45.
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  And it is a holiday week for us and for most people in the
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  country. So we're going to make it light
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  and have a little bit of fun. We're going to talk a little bit
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  of Moto America, some testing in Moto GP.
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  It's the offseason for some of us, not everyone.
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  So, you know, we're going to find out who still has to work.
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  But the rest of us are trying to put our bikes back together or
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  get something fixed and all that fun stuff.
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  So should be a good entertaining show.
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  So definitely keep it locked. Let's bring the first person in
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  and see what he's been up to. TJ, man, welcome to the show.
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  How you doing this tonight? Are we doing good over here?
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  You know, you know, we always bring up my Patriots go.
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  Ahead and say it. Go ahead and say it 'cause if.
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  We don't we still win. We're we're still winning.
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  I think it's time for you guys to start being worried who guys
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  you know, just the rest of the league, just the.
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  Rest of OK, most of you guys, man, you like you're lumping me
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  in that you have to say the rest of the the people out there that
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  I you know, it's, it's hard to say because it is a fluke.
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  I mean, they're telling too. They got the best record in in
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  the league, which is very surprising for everyone.
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  So I don't think I, you know, I'm not going to say where
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  they're going to end up. I mean, anything is possible,
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  but I don't know if I see that that that ult, that trophy at
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  the end, but anything is possible.
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  So you're excited that the Patriots are winning and it's
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  nice and warm in Boston. Yeah, it's warm up here, you
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  know, sunshine, it's a nice 45° so, but you know, it's just
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  getting ready for, you know, the next season and, you know,
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  motorcycle racing to come up in February.
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  So that's all I'm looking forward to now that test
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  testing's over and Moto GP and all the series is over.
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  So all. Right, man, it's a tough time.
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  You got to you got to look in the mirror and find that you
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  know you don't have a life outside of motorcycles.
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  What do we do? No.
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  Doubt. No doubt.
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  Reese, man, welcome to the show. What's good, man?
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  I mean, you know, I we don't let the cat out the bag.
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  Apparently you're still at the racetrack, so, you know, you're
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  living the dream still while the rest of us are looking at
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  reruns. What's good, man?
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  Yeah, it was good, man. You know, you can call it living
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  a dream, but you still got to work, man.
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  You still got to get ready for the upcoming season, man.
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  So And the answer Tji don't know about them Patriots.
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  I mean, you still got to. You still got to, as they say,
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  you still got to come to Philly. OK, OK, OK.
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  You got to get that cheese steak.
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  Still got to come to Philly, Still got to come all.
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  Right, that's what's up, man. We'll bring you Lewis in and
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  we'll find out where you've been, where you're at testing
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  and all that fun stuff. Lewis, man, welcome to the show.
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  What's good, man? What's going on man?
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  How was your weekend? You know, I went out on my bike
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  yesterday, man, and I, I probably did close to 300 miles
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  on on the V4. I found some roads that are not
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  straight in Florida. So I will say they are roads
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  that are not straight. But they were flat.
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  Not a little bit of elevation, but you know, I mean, there's
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  just a lot of farm, a lot of farmland.
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  I'm I was wondering if somebody was going to come and and start
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  yelling, you know, keep the noise down by, you know, cloud
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  exhaust is passing your crib, you know, so, but what's good
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  with you, man? I got out on the lawn mower.
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  I was doing at least 7 miles an hour.
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  It was. It was riveting, super exciting.
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  Gotcha, gotcha. I don't know how much lawn you
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  have, but occasionally, you know, I'm like, I could probably
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  cut like more jello in my, my yard cutting the grass.
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  I don't know. I don't know if I have enough
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  time and patience to do it, but it crossed my mind to make a
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  little grass racetrack. I I have enough lawn where the
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  first time I went to mow this lawn I I rented a push mower and
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  about an hour into push mowing I went and took that mower back
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  and bought a riding ward because I still had 80% of the grass
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  left to cut even with the push mower.
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  Listen, man, that that I I give people credit that go out there
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  and cut and use those push mowers because you need
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  something that's ridable for sure.
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  But let's talk about racing and motorcycling and and all the fun
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  stuff we do like single cylinder engines as well as those in
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  lines and all that fun stuff. Guys, I don't even know where to
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  start, but let's start. You know, testing happen over
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  after the last round. Toparak was able to come out and
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  and ride that V4 Bulla goes out there.
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  How much of testing, how much, how much does it depend dictate
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  what happens through the season? Is it more just kind of a
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  shakedown more for us, the fans? You know, Reece, you can attest
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  more than the rest of us because you're going through testing
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  right now. You know, there's something that
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  you're saying here saying, man, I could have stayed home and
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  take a nap, but are you locked in 100%?
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  What are your thoughts TJ on on testing over over in Europe Moto
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  GP? I mean, the fact that they just
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  came off of AGP race and testing at the same track, you know, I
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  don't know how much data they can actually get out of what
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  they were performing, you know, all season.
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  So I think it's more of like a shakedown just to see what the
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  new bike can bring you. And, you know, everybody has a
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  different goal at this point. You know, that's per SE like
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  Diego Moreira is his first time 1 of GP bikes.
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  So his take on is just to get get the feeling right, you know,
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  get used to everything and see how the controls work.
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  So that time is precious for him.
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  And you know, like for Fabio, like he's trying to figure this
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  V4 out and he's probably the best example to make this bike
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  go the fastest. So he's probably trying his
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  hardest to figure the bike out and, you know, get get a fast
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  time. So I think it's just a shakedown
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  just to feel things out and, you know, before the actual, the,
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  the real test comes in very before the season.
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  Right, right, Reese, how much just, you know, time tests, time
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  attack matters in these tests and situation and in a case like
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  Yamaha as far as the V4, I know you guys are not testing a brand
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  brand new engine, but I'm sure you you guys are trying
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  something new. How much is the, the 1st testing
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  session? How much does that matter for
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  you guys? And, and, and what are your
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  thoughts on GP with what they're doing or what they did over
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  there for testing and stuff like that?
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  Yamaha. But you know you can you can
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  talk about all other brands except for Ducati.
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  I mean, this test, I mean, it's pretty much just a winter test.
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  I mean, it's pretty much like a shakedown test.
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  This is trying some new things, see what new things is going to
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  work, you know, so they can work, we can work on over the
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  winter. You know why we have plenty of
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  time and then like for the new guys coming in like over there
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  in GP, it's like kind of get a feel for the bike.
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  You kind of see what works best, what doesn't work or you just
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  kind of just feel where you're at this kind of get your feet
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  wet in the in the in the water. So that's pretty much it.
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  It's the time attacks in here is not really that big.
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  It's just like I said, it's just more of a shakedown.
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  The time attacks will start coming when it starts getting
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  into closer to the season and you know, getting more prepared
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  into it just now to like TJ said, it's just more of a
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  shakedown test. That's all it really is.
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  Now, what do you thought, do you think that, you know, testing
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  that like the first Test should happen a little bit later rather
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  than the day after, a couple of days after you got you got the
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  the award ceremony and then the day after, it's really like some
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  of these guys may still be kind of hungover showing up.
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  It could be, but no, I think it's kind of good.
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  I think it's kind of good that it is a day afterwards after the
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  wars. I mean, because you got the, I
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  mean, first of all, you're renting a facility out, you
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  know, God knows how much the facility costs to rent and the
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  EMTs, everything else. But then you also have to
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  realize that, you know, they they're flying all of their
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  equipment over or bringing their equipment over or driving
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  however far it is. They got to bring it, but
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  they're bringing all their new equipment, all the new bikes
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  that they're actually adding on. So it's time like while you're
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  still kind of fresh, you just got off the track.
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  It's kind of, you know, hey, let's try it before we take our
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  long winter break and figure it out to see what's going on.
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  Because when they come back from their winter break, everyone's
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  kind of now it's time to get back into it and to get back on
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  the field of things this way. It's still kind of everything,
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  still kind of fresh in their mind.
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  OK, OK, no doubt Louis for your thoughts on testing and and
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  time. I've seen a lot of people post
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  time of you know who these new guys are faster than and all
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  that fun stuff. Is it just, you know, food for
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  thought or just a click bait? You know is it is it where you
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  know, you know you like, you know your brand and other brands
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  are trying to work out deals and stuff in the background.
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  What are your thoughts man? I mean, there's a lot of things
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  that happened during testing, especially this particular test,
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  the test right after the last event of the year.
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  Obviously there's some new pieces that come out.
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  But this isn't really like, like Reese said, this isn't really
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  the test where all the new goodies show up.
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  There might be some new goodies and everybody's got a different
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  idea of what this test is for. You know, on the Yamaha side,
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  you know, Top Rack wants to go out there and prove that he can
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  ride this bike at a higher level.
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  So he's going to be pushing a little bit more than somebody
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  else. And since he has no point of
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  reference, his point of reference is just how fast can I
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  go on this motorcycle? Whereas somebody like Jack
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  Miller, who on the time sheet showed up a little bit slower
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  than Top Rack, He might already know what he needs to do in this
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  time with this time with his new motor because he's already been
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  on the bike with the motor and needs to see what the evolution
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  of the motor is. So he's going out there and
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  looking at something differently than someone else.
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  So everybody has their own agenda for these, for this
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  particular test, the next couple of tests are are going to be
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  incrementally more important because they're going to be
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  leading to the beginning of the season.
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  And again, this is, I don't want to say practice, practice is
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  super important, but this is practice.
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  You know, the guy, the fastest guy that puts a time down in
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  practice doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be able to
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  apply that to a full length race or something else.
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  He might put on a set of qualifying tires and go out
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  there and see what's the fastest he can go.
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  Or somebody else might just go out there and just want to see,
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  you know, hey, how does this track with this weather
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  condition, how many laps can get can I get out of a soft tire?
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  How many taps can I get out of a medium tire?
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  How can we change the power delivery to get more power with
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  without eating up the tire? How can we do you know?
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  So everybody's got a different plan and the people that are at
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  the front at the end of this year should start next year more
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  or less in the same position and aren't going to be as desperate
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  to look for those big increases. They're going to look for
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  incremental increases. So your Ducatis and your
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  Aprilias are going to try to continue build off the success
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  they had at the end of this year and carried on to next year.
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  Ducati might have a little bit more work to do because now, you
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  know, they've had a year of 1 rider having a lot of success
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  and other riders not having as much success.
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  And now Marquez, Alex Marquez is going to be on a factory
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  supported bike. So that's going to change the
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  dynamics there. And there's, you know, there's
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  even some politics that we'll talk about later going on with
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  the Grassini team and the factory Ducati team and how the
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  VR46 team is maybe feeling a little left out because now
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  they're not going to have possibly a full factory bike
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  next year. It's like that reggae song
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  rumors them spreading for real, Yeah.
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  So, so, but it's still a good, it's still a good event for, you
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  know, there was a couple of Moto 2 guys and even a Moto three guy
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  that was allowed to go out there and ride the bike just as a
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  reward for doing so good. And for those and for those guys
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  that get that opportunity to go out there, one, they get to see
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  this is possibly in my future. This is what I have to look
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  forward to. And maybe it also is an idea of
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  where the factory teams or other teams to see, hey, let's see how
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  this 17 year old or 18 year old reacts in this situation.
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  And is this someone we think maybe in the future we want to
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  see here? It's a lot of things going on.
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  You think you think Rossi was like via take, go out there and
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  get the bike because mobility doesn't want this.
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  I mean, they're, they're looking for riders, man.
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  You know next year is going to be the craziest silly season
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  because I think almost every single seat in the paddock is up
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  for bids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  I think everyone is up next year.
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  There's no one that has the next extension beyond next year, but
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  maybe Bender because he signed that ridiculous deal way back
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  when. That six year deal or whatever.
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  I think that was a win for Bender, not not KTM.
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  Well, it. Might be a win for Bender, but
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  now with KTM finally being completely under this new Baja
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  management group. Yeah, well that.
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  Contract is as good as toilet paper.
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  Yeah, let's talk about that and we'll talk about the rumors
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  before we move into Motor America and what's happening
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  there and all that fun stuff. But what are your thoughts on
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  all you guys on I mean, I, I think all you, you, Reese and
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  and TJ know about Baja coming in with KTM, right?
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  Yeah, I heard about it. Yeah.
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  All right. All right, let's talk about it,
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  right. Yeah.
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  You know, well, Lewis, Lewis in on, on on the details.
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  Because I, I, I, you know, I know you delivered the pens for
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  people to sign these contracts with.
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  So you're in the room. A lot, a lot of big numbers
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  here, man, a lot of big numbers. So Baja has officially taken
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  control of KTM as an entity. They've changed the name of the
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  company or that managing company to a different name.
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  So even though the brand is still going to be KTM, it's now
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  owned and managed under a different brand equity name.
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  So it's not KTMKTM Motors, it's something completely different.
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  One of the big thing that's going to happen in the next 6 to
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  8 months or year is any time a company absorbs another company,
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  the first thing you do is you fire all the coaches and you get
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  your own coaches, especially if you don't trust them.
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  And if a lot of these coaches or a lot of these CEOSCMOSCOOS LED
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  this company into this battle, financial ruin, you ain't going
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  to keep them. So you're going to see a lot of
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  heads rolling. You're going to see a lot of new
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  people be putting into place, like over the next few months.
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  I expect them to announce a new CMOA, new CEOA, new CEOCOO, and
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  then how's that going to? How's that?
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  Yeah, the entire C-Suite is getting cleaned out, new rugs
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  coming in. But how's that going to affect
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  every tier? One of the things that we're
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  already hearing is that some of the manufacturing is going to be
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  moving to India and other places where Baja already makes their
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  cars to try to reduce the costs and so forth and so on, make it
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  a little bit easier for them. Obviously, this is an Austrian
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  company. A lot of people that have bought
• 16:19
  KTMS over the year bought it because it was built in Europe
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  or European brand. You know, how is that going to
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  impact quality? How's this going to impact
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  supply chain? How are parts going to become
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  available? You know, these are all
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  questions that unfortunately it's going to take time for
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  answer these to answer these. The realm we're interested in is
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  racing what's going to happen to their team?
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  And right now the rumors are that they might actually sell
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  the licenses to two of the seats.
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  So instead of having 4 KTMS out there, there might only be two
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  KTMS out there in the next year to two years.
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  Or they might be completely getting out of Moto GP unless
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  they can find some really deep pockets that want to fund the
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  program and keep it up and running.
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  Because Baja, if you look at all the big manufacturers that deal
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  in volume, they're not in Moto GP.
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  There's no, you know, Kymco or Kim Kymco in Moto GPCF.
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  Moto's trying to get there. You know they're trying to.
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  CF Moto. They're in Moto 2 and Moto 3.
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  Is a Chinese company that has a lot of Chinese backing and they
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  have very big plans for that company.
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  Of all the Chinese brands right now, CF Moto is considered their
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  Honda, or they're Harley, let's put it that way.
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  And even though, like, if you look at their bikes, it looks
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  like they stole a little bit from a Ducati and a little bit
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  from the Honda and a little bit from an Avia Gusta, they're
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  still building really good bikes.
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  And the quality is definitely good from what I hear from other
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  parts of the world where they sell in huge volume.
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  And now they're trying to penetrate the bigger markets,
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  which is Europe and the US. Right.
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  So do you think Baja may kind of see what CF Moto's doing or you
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  just think they're going to kind of just, you know, look at their
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  bottom line? And because you know, when most
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  times when companies are bought and, and, and as publicized as
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  KTM has been, you know, it's usually doesn't turn around
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  until the company's all sold again, right?
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  That the the the first buyers don't usually fix the problem.
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  No, no, I would say that for the most part, except this is not an
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  equity firm. This is actually a car
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  manufacturer and a car manufacturer like when you know,
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  when the VW Group bought Ducati, they didn't buy it to flip it.
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  They bought it to build it up to a stronger company.
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  And now you look where Ducati is at.
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  So they were, they did it the right way.
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  If this was a private equity firm, I would say, hey man, in
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  about four years all these people are going to be gone
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  again. But since this is an actual car
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  company, I don't see that happening.
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  I think they really are planning a long term strategy with KTM,
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  but I don't think that that will be in Moto Gpi.
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  Think they'll keep KTM in Moto 2 and Moto 3 and even Moto 2?
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  Doesn't really make sense because the motor is not your
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  motor. You build the frame and you
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  build everything else, but you're stuck with whatever
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  motor, the Triumph motor, or whatever motor is the
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  homologated motor. Right.
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  And, you know, and I know Reese is probably thinking this and so
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  is TJ, but like, what about the Junior Cups and all these other
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  places that KTM is so immersed in this, you know, feed a
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  program or programs that they have for riders.
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  Now, it's not just the main seats that are, you know, on the
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  table. And, and I would agree with
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  that, but if you think about their feeder program, their
• 19:38
  feeder program again it's small displacement bikes that they
• 19:42
  typically sell RC390's and so forth and so on, same as Moto 3
• 19:47
  bikes. So I would say for their feeder
• 19:49
  program and for all their series, they would make sense.
• 19:53
  But in Moto 2 it makes no sense because you don't get to use
• 19:56
  your own motor. And in Moto GP, the expense is
• 19:58
  so high that unless they can get somebody to come in and really
• 20:01
  cover so much of this cause. And this is, again, this is
• 20:05
  happening at the time when Tech 3 just got sold to the gentleman
• 20:09
  from Formula One, right? So he's going to come in with
• 20:13
  big, big deep pockets, a lot of sponsorship money behind him.
• 20:17
  So maybe he's him and his crew are the ones that kind of saved
• 20:20
  the KTM program. OK.
• 20:22
  Well, like a lot of questions asked, but not a lot of answers
• 20:25
  yet. We've got to have to wait and
• 20:26
  see. Well, let's see, Reese, you got
• 20:28
  any questions, TJ? And then we can kind of roll
• 20:31
  into the rumor mill because, you know, he doesn't have to stay
• 20:35
  with KTM, right? I'm pretty sure there's a closet
• 20:37
  in there somewhere for him to get out, to get out if they
• 20:40
  screw up. And right.
• 20:44
  Yeah, I don't really have anything on that one.
• 20:46
  I mean, he's he's answered it all.
• 20:49
  He answered that all for quick. Yeah.
• 20:52
  So. You sign as a writer, there's
• 20:56
  always out clause both for the manufacturer and for the rider.
• 21:00
  So if at any point there's a, let's say there's some clauses
• 21:03
  in Acosta's contract where KTM can't meet certain thresholds,
• 21:08
  he can get out of the contract and he can't be penalized.
• 21:11
  I mean, unless he has a complete idiot for a manager, which at
• 21:14
  that level there's not that many idiots that are managers.
• 21:17
  Most of the people know what they're doing, they'll have an
• 21:20
  out clause. So unless he can clearly show
• 21:23
  that KTM is not meeting the requirements of the contract,
• 21:27
  he'll be stuck in that contract. But if he can prove that they're
• 21:30
  not meeting certain thresholds, he could possibly get out of
• 21:34
  that contract. And either way, like next year
• 21:37
  is kind of his last year with them and he's going to be
• 21:40
  looking for your ride and it's going to be another factory.
• 21:43
  And, and you know, it's, it's, you know, it's not just the
• 21:46
  riders, it's not just the new owner of Tech 3.
• 21:49
  What about Red Bull? Red Red Bull is like Monster,
• 21:54
  which is like a lot of companies.
• 21:56
  I don't know, they, they just print money in the backroom
• 21:59
  because they sell a product for $3 that cost them $0.18 to make.
• 22:04
  So that's it. Their profit, their profited,
• 22:07
  their profited cost margin is through the roof.
• 22:09
  That's why they advertise and they're in everything because
• 22:12
  they are a promotional company that sells a drink that makes
• 22:15
  them a ton of money. They did get a little bit lucky
• 22:18
  buying that Formula One team, too.
• 22:20
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the price they got it at?
• 22:24
  But I don't think that they'll buy outright, buy a team because
• 22:27
  they still need to rely on a manufacturer to develop, to
• 22:30
  deliver bikes. You know, when they buy a
• 22:32
  Formula One team, they can go to Ferrari or they can go to
• 22:34
  McLaren or these companies and they can get the products they
• 22:38
  need and then they can build a team around these products.
• 22:41
  But in Moto GP, you're kind of stuck to the four or five
• 22:44
  manufacturers that are in GP. Right.
• 22:47
  Well, you know Honda might be looking for a new big sponsor
• 22:49
  besides Castro. Oil well, Honda's got a Repsol
• 22:52
  coming back next year. OK, breaking news.
• 22:55
  Breaking news. I.
• 22:58
  Got AI got a question about the the KTM aspect.
• 23:01
  So like you mentioned, like they probably will just
• 23:06
  hypothetically withdraw from Moto GP or at least take away 2
• 23:10
  bikes. So I know when Suzuki left, like
• 23:14
  they, they told Dorner that they like we'll withdraw and we'll
• 23:18
  pay the penalty and fine whatever.
• 23:20
  Like like is that going to be the case or it's like they like,
• 23:24
  do they sign a contract like that, that I do not know from
• 23:27
  how like these mobile GP manufacturers.
• 23:31
  So you you only pay a fine if you can't find another company
• 23:35
  to take your spots because they don't want 2 empty spots in the
• 23:39
  grid. So in Suzuki's case, they were
• 23:42
  going to have to pay a pretty big fine until they found
• 23:45
  somebody willing to buy their spots.
• 23:48
  And then they, you know, the the penalty went down significantly
• 23:52
  from what they would have gotten if they couldn't find somebody
• 23:54
  to absorb those two spots. And it's very easy to get 2
• 23:57
  spots sold in Moto GP because everybody that has some money
• 24:02
  does want to build a team. The biggest problem is finding a
• 24:05
  manufacturer that's willing to make you bikes, make you good
• 24:10
  bikes too. Not make you some some third
• 24:13
  tier shitty version of their best bike, but make you like a
• 24:16
  competent or sell you last year's bikes, sell you the
• 24:20
  technology, help you get up and running, things like that.
• 24:23
  It's not an easy endeavor to go from one manufacturer to another
• 24:27
  unless that manufacturer you're going to already has a
• 24:29
  structure. So if KTM leaves, those two
• 24:32
  spots would have to go to one of the manufacturers that are there
• 24:35
  now. And I don't think Yamaha wants
• 24:37
  to add more bikes. Honda, I don't know if they want
• 24:42
  to add more bikes. They should.
• 24:44
  They should. No, absolutely they should.
• 24:48
  Although I think the one manufacturer that would benefit
• 24:51
  from adding more bikes would be brilliant.
• 24:54
  If it really went from 4 bikes to six bikes, I think that would
• 24:58
  now put them on par one with Ducati because now they also
• 25:02
  have 6 bikes going against six bikes.
• 25:05
  Between those two companies they take up almost 50% of the grid,
• 25:09
  40 something percent of the grid.
• 25:10
  It will be all Italian and both of those bikes right now are the
• 25:15
  two top bikes. So you're going to get a lot of
• 25:18
  more interesting racing until the KTMS and the Hondas and
• 25:22
  Yamahas in the world catch up. And and so the rumor is that,
• 25:26
  you know, Rossi, may, you know, leave Ducati and jump to
• 25:30
  Aprilia. That is one of the rumors.
• 25:34
  I mean 2020. Yeah, is a a, a do you really
• 25:39
  buy that you think? I mean, obviously money talks,
• 25:41
  right. So when it comes down to it, but
• 25:43
  you know, is it is it such a big deal if well, it he he VR46 is
• 25:50
  getting a 26 bike. 1. Yeah, and so they both won and
• 25:54
  Grassini's getting one, right? So, so it's it's so there's no
• 25:58
  reason to be disgruntled from Rossi's perspective, is there?
• 26:04
  I'll let you guys answer this one.
• 26:07
  I mean, I mean it. Yeah, Go ahead, T.
• 26:10
  Oh, I know I'm being, I'm just speaking like who?
• 26:15
  Who? Like yeah, who's going to ride
• 26:17
  that bike, you know, is it? I mean, he needs another.
• 26:20
  He needs another ride. I feel like to represent him
• 26:23
  like someone else younger to come up to.
• 26:27
  Celestine Vietay or when these other young riders coming
• 26:30
  through the the the the VR46 Academy.
• 26:33
  I feel like Rossi gets what he wants anyway.
• 26:35
  I mean for him to get 2 new bikes that's like, I don't know.
• 26:40
  That'll be unheard of. I think I.
• 26:42
  Think Rossi wants his 2015 championship?
• 26:44
  He don't get what he wants. So I mean, but you know, I mean,
• 26:49
  I I think it's, I think it's good enough for him to just have
• 26:53
  126 bike and 25. But you know, Rossi is always in
• 26:59
  the something. Right.
• 27:01
  You know, Reese, you know, there's a lot of rumors in the
• 27:04
  Motor America which we'll jump into.
• 27:06
  So how much is this stuff is valid what we hear on on the on
• 27:11
  the social media streets? You see, the mouth is shut.
• 27:21
  I mean something you can't believe, something you can't
• 27:23
  believe. We'll say that, but sometimes
• 27:29
  the riders will will just slip out and and say some stuff and
• 27:33
  you'll be like shut up and just wait till it's on paper, you
• 27:36
  know, But it's it's, it normally comes from somewhere in that
• 27:40
  rider. Got you got you normally no
• 27:44
  doubt. I think it'll be cool.
• 27:46
  I mean, I mean, I think if Rossi was to go with Aprilia, the bike
• 27:50
  is doing fairly well. It's the it's the closest bike
• 27:53
  that can fight Ducati. It's an Italian brand.
• 27:56
  I, I don't know if Aprilia has enough money where Ducati has
• 28:00
  that money to develop a little bit faster, a little bit quicker
• 28:04
  and, and stuff like that, where Aprilia is still a niche brand
• 28:08
  and, and you know, who knows what 27 looks like, right?
• 28:12
  So because if they get, if they whoever comes out the gate on
• 28:15
  the wrong foot, you, you already know it's going to take them
• 28:17
  maybe a few seasons to catch up. I mean, do you have the money
• 28:21
  like Lambeau has? Well, one of the things that
• 28:25
  you're missing about the Ducati conversation is, you know, how
• 28:30
  how keen and how happy is Rossi knowing that Marquez is winning
• 28:34
  on a Ducati? How keen and how happier is he
• 28:37
  that the two Spaniards, that Grassini are doing better than
• 28:41
  his two Italians on Ducati's? And there's only one Italian
• 28:46
  left on the factory team, which is Pekko, and he might not be
• 28:49
  there going into 27. So this is another aspect that
• 28:52
  you're not kind of thinking about is, you know, you're
• 28:55
  talking about now not just Rossi, but Italians versus the
• 28:59
  Spaniards, both on Italian bikes and one Italian feeling like the
• 29:03
  Spaniards are getting better shit than he's getting.
• 29:07
  And you know, it's, it's petty like that, man.
• 29:10
  And. We don't know what Pekka is
• 29:13
  going back and telling Rossi. We don't know what Pekka is
• 29:15
  telling Rossi neither. That's one of your vRS 46 boys.
• 29:18
  Yeah. Listen, it's, it's it's like
• 29:19
  that scene in Snatch. You know, Boris, you're my
• 29:22
  brother. What do you want me to come
• 29:24
  shoot them for you? Some things they have to do on
• 29:26
  their own. You're you're absolutely right.
• 29:28
  And it must be tough for Rossi. And I, and I suspect, I mean,
• 29:31
  Rossi does a better job at it than Jordan because as we know,
• 29:34
  Jordan can't coach because he he'll just lace up and go out
• 29:38
  there. So, you know, and I think, you
• 29:41
  know, for Rossi, he must, you know, that there's a side room
• 29:44
  that wants to say, hey, it can't be done.
• 29:45
  It can't be done. You guys are not getting there.
• 29:47
  So I guess that has to be difficult for him.
• 29:50
  But I still Aprilia makes the most sense if if Ducati can't,
• 29:55
  can't, it seems to be meddling with the with the, you know, the
• 30:00
  Italian nationality. Unless unless Yamaha pulls
• 30:04
  something amazing out of their ass in 2026.
• 30:08
  Aprilia would make the most sense going into 27.
• 30:12
  Because Yamaha would make the most sense for Rossi only
• 30:15
  because of his history with the brand.
• 30:17
  And it kind of. But he's still an ambassador,
• 30:19
  too. Yeah, so it'd be kind of like a
• 30:21
  a come a homecoming to have VR46 back on Yamaha.
• 30:25
  It'll be a win for Yamaha. And for Rossi, if he went back
• 30:29
  and used Yamaha bikes with his team, that would be a.
• 30:33
  Lower case W though. Yeah, dude, But if as a
• 30:36
  marketing person, I'd be in the back just creaming the entire
• 30:39
  wall, if I could get my ambassador pain in the wall,
• 30:46
  man, because I got Rossi. You're absolutely right.
• 30:53
  They they would sell a lot of bikes.
• 30:55
  I mean, you know, no, no doubt that, you know, no one is
• 30:59
  selling more bikes than Rossi at the moment.
• 31:01
  I think, Mark, they kind of used Marquez to get there.
• 31:03
  But we shall see. Let's anything else about Moto
• 31:08
  GP before we move over to the side of the the country at the
• 31:10
  side of the world. That's good, that's good.
• 31:13
  That's good for. Them all right, let's let's
• 31:14
  let's talk about it so. They got enough money.
• 31:17
  Yeah, yeah, too much free, free publicity.
• 31:21
  Exactly, exactly. You have to stop putting them on
• 31:23
  notice. So let's talk more to America.
• 31:26
  Some seats moving around what I know about and hopefully we'll
• 31:29
  see what we can get out of Reese and and Lewis on who's who's
• 31:34
  coming. But looks like Cam Beaubier's on
• 31:36
  the red bike for next season. New testing.
• 31:41
  Well, new testing. Testing has to be done.
• 31:43
  But it's a new platform. So, you know, we'll start with
• 31:48
  Reese on this one. You know, last year you guys
• 31:50
  kind of had a idea who your challenger was going to be
• 31:54
  coming into 2025. Do you guys look at any of that
• 31:59
  stuff? Is it like, you know, you know,
• 32:00
  you hear football players and and basketball players got
• 32:03
  certain dates on the calendar circled and stuff because
• 32:06
  they're going to see certain people.
• 32:08
  Is it, is it certain brands, you, you, you start to, you
• 32:12
  know, put stickers on their car because you don't like them
• 32:14
  anymore for next year? I mean, not like that, but I
• 32:20
  mean, you always got to know who the challenger that's going to
• 32:22
  come into play. I mean, from what I hear, I
• 32:24
  think there's like 4 Ducati that's going to be on a grid
• 32:27
  down this year. So that's that's something big.
• 32:30
  I mean, you got Cam, you know he's always going to be a
• 32:35
  contender, especially if he wraps his head around that bike.
• 32:38
  So that's always going to be a contender there.
• 32:41
  You also have Matthew coming in, you know, to the Super bike.
• 32:45
  You know he's going to be a contender.
• 32:47
  I mean you got PJ, you know, you have Bobby still out there and
• 32:53
  Bobby's coming strong and you know, so I I think it's going to
• 32:58
  be a good year. I mean, we know who's coming so
• 33:02
  far. You still got the BMWs with Sean
• 33:06
  Dillon Kelly. So I mean it's going to be a
• 33:09
  good year. I think this I would say this
• 33:11
  year the Super bike, this is going to be the year the Super
• 33:13
  bikes versus like the smaller ones.
• 33:17
  Right. And you know, how much does you
• 33:20
  know, these riders moving around on different bikes make a
• 33:24
  difference? I mean, you know, Cam won last
• 33:26
  year on the BMW. He I don't want to say it's the
• 33:29
  same situation anyway. I guess it was the same
• 33:30
  situation as, oh, hey, Martine, you went on one bike, but you
• 33:34
  got to put that number plate on a different manufacturer all
• 33:36
  together. You know, there's still a
• 33:39
  learning curve. So how much how much do do you
• 33:42
  guys pay attention to that part of it?
• 33:43
  Like, OK, they're on a different bike.
• 33:44
  So you know, they got to play catch up where Bobby's been on
• 33:47
  the same bike now for a little bit as far as being on a Yamaha
• 33:51
  obviously is just one year on the factory.
• 33:55
  I mean, we, we pay attention to a little bit, but we're trying
• 33:57
  to pay attention to our own thing, you know, and get, get
• 33:59
  ourselves situated. I mean, that's where it's at.
• 34:02
  And you know me personally coming from, you know, the
• 34:05
  athletic background and the, the competition that I am, like I'm
• 34:08
  very competitive. I've always said, you know, that
• 34:12
  me, my beliefs is that Bobby's going to be the most dangerous
• 34:14
  one out there on the track. He's going to be the most
• 34:16
  dangerous 1. He was there to taste almost the
• 34:19
  champagne but didn't taste it. And he's going to be the most
• 34:24
  hungriest 1. You know, Cam's still going to
• 34:26
  be hungry. He's on a new bike to prove
• 34:28
  himself. You got the new guys that want
• 34:31
  to prove themselves, but still got that, as you want to call
• 34:34
  it, the learning curve. But you know, Bobby's on a bike
• 34:37
  that he knows. He's been on the bike.
• 34:38
  He knows what you know, the pressure's not on him.
• 34:42
  And if you read the the article that he did put out, he did say
• 34:44
  there was some pressure on him. But, you know, I think that's
• 34:47
  kind of kick the, you know, kick.
• 34:49
  He's coming back for a little bit of a little bit of glory,
• 34:53
  but. No, we needed to at least step
• 35:02
  our game up to to be ready and to to take the win.
• 35:07
  OK, listen, I'm looking forward to it.
• 35:09
  TJ, man, your, your, your guy there at the moment doesn't have
• 35:12
  a ride. You know how you feeling about
• 35:17
  that. And you know, what are your
• 35:18
  thoughts on what the grid is going to look like next year?
• 35:20
  Because you know it, it looked like it was last year.
• 35:25
  Last year it was stacked, but this year is even is even going
• 35:29
  to be more stacked because you know, you do have, I would say,
• 35:33
  you know, 9 to 10 riders. The Reese can correct me if I'm
• 35:36
  wrong, that could fight for it or even Lewis that could fight
• 35:39
  for a championship next year. So is it odd that Herron doesn't
• 35:44
  have a ride for next year and you know, this guy was fighting
• 35:47
  for the championship? I mean, is it like Olivier's
• 35:49
  kind of situation? What are your thoughts man?
• 35:55
  Yeah, You know, it's kind of funny that getting into
• 35:57
  motorcycles, a guy that I liked and sounds like the most hated
• 36:01
  out there, It's kind of, it's kind of strange not seeing him
• 36:06
  have a ride yet. I'm sure it's like a
• 36:09
  interference to his, you know, trying to get ready for the next
• 36:13
  season if he can get that ride going.
• 36:17
  But yeah, it's a little strange. I feel like he kind of went
• 36:19
  through this the year before such when he had to get all
• 36:23
  these sponsors and stuff like that.
• 36:24
  But yeah, it's a little strange and just sitting back and and
• 36:29
  and patiently waiting just to see some some news or some
• 36:32
  rumors. But I feel like it will all work
• 36:35
  out in the end. But we'll see.
• 36:39
  I mean, it'll be kind of interesting to, you know, not
• 36:41
  have been series after, you know, how competitive he is.
• 36:45
  But I know the insiders is like, you know, burning bridges
• 36:51
  different places, just like some Moto GP riders is you might just
• 36:55
  push your way out. So we'll see.
• 36:58
  It's kind of interesting. No, man, listen, the, the, the
• 37:01
  motorcycle politics is, is for real.
• 37:04
  You know, I, I, I think it's OK to, I'm not even going to say
• 37:08
  it, but but. You might go ahead and say it.
• 37:12
  You might just say it. You, you can get away with
• 37:15
  kissing someone's woman, but you can't be messing with the the
• 37:17
  bike or, or messing with the ride at all.
• 37:20
  People remember that. And and you know, it's like if
• 37:23
  you, if you screw one team over, it seems like the the whole
• 37:26
  paddock is, is against you. You know, as we look at some of
• 37:30
  these Moto GP riders like that can get rides or Moto 2 riders
• 37:34
  that can get rides in Moto GP for for politics.
• 37:38
  Louis, what are your thoughts? Man on well, Oh, TJ, you didn't
• 37:41
  answer. What do you how do you think you
• 37:44
  know the the season's going to look next year with with these
• 37:46
  guys coming in and coming back up?
• 37:50
  Yeah, just how I reset. I think, you know, Bobby Foley's
• 37:55
  just couldn't be in the front runner.
• 37:57
  He's just going to. I feel like he has something to
• 38:00
  prove. And I mean, it was just right
• 38:02
  there. It was, you know, the the
• 38:05
  championship is right there. So he he has something to prove.
• 38:07
  I feel like he's going to be a front runner and you know, it's
• 38:11
  going to be interesting seeing Bobier or Ducati.
• 38:16
  I feel like you'll adapt very fast.
• 38:19
  I mean, you know, just seeing what he did on the BMW.
• 38:23
  So it's going to be an interesting season.
• 38:26
  I'm looking forward to it. It's a couple of riders on
• 38:29
  different seats, so you know, but I think Bobby Fong is going
• 38:32
  to be looking forward to watching.
• 38:36
  Thank you. Hopefully you can finally take
• 38:38
  it home this year. No doubt Bobby Fong is Kobe
• 38:41
  Bryant in a 2008 season. You know, SO 2000.
• 38:48
  He had the fro, he had the fro. So you know, say you know 2009,
• 38:54
  you know, it might it was was Kobe J after losing to the
• 38:57
  Celtics in O 8. So next year might be his for
• 39:00
  sure. What are your thoughts, Lewis?
• 39:02
  I know you have a lot to say based on what I said, but what
• 39:05
  what what rumors can you say or or say they're not rumors?
• 39:10
  And also, what are your thoughts for next year?
• 39:16
  Can't say anything, man. I can say that for Super Bike,
• 39:21
  it's going to be an interesting year because like Reese said,
• 39:24
  there's a lot of talent in Super Bike and there's a lot of talent
• 39:27
  on good bikes. I think if you go through the
• 39:30
  paddock and you ask anybody, anybody, anybody in the paddock
• 39:34
  who's the odds on favorite every single year, it's always going
• 39:38
  to be Cambo BA. He's always going to be at the
• 39:40
  top of the pile. He, no matter what he's riding,
• 39:43
  whether it's BMW or Suzuki, a Yamaha, Ducati, he's always
• 39:49
  going to be that guy that everybody looks at as like the
• 39:51
  benchmark for the best racer out there.
• 39:55
  But then after him, I mean you've got a lot of guys that
• 39:58
  are hungry. You know, Bobby's obviously
• 40:01
  hungry. He learned a lot from last
• 40:02
  season. He showed that he has the pace
• 40:05
  to race at almost every circle, can be competitive.
• 40:08
  Whoever his team mates going to be is at least going to be on a
• 40:11
  competent bike. And if he's a halfway decent
• 40:14
  rider, he'll be in the top 10. After that, you know, you got
• 40:19
  Scholz and this is a guy that was already has already been on
• 40:23
  a Yamaha 1 and he's going back to a Yamaha 1 after his exile to
• 40:28
  Super Sport. And so he's going to come back
• 40:30
  with a giant chip on his shoulder and something to prove.
• 40:33
  And if everybody knows anything about him, the dude race is
• 40:36
  super hard. Some people would say it's on a
• 40:39
  borderline of dirty, but is there really anything dirty
• 40:42
  about, you know, taking a spot from somebody?
• 40:45
  Right. If if you could fit a credit
• 40:47
  card, you could fit a bike. Yeah, I, I, I need a court
• 40:53
  typist to read back the transcript.
• 40:56
  I mean, you, you throw dirt smooth, Lewis.
• 40:59
  It's real big. Slide it.
• 41:02
  Sprinkle right in there, but you know.
• 41:08
  Like cinnamon? Just a little bit, not too much.
• 41:12
  You can make butt on a bread taste real good with a little
• 41:15
  bit of cinnamon. And then you got the Honda guys,
• 41:20
  you know, Honda's going to have a full super bike team.
• 41:22
  You got the Orange Cat guys are going to have a full super bike
• 41:25
  team. You know, the BMW factory team.
• 41:28
  I mean, there's a lot of really, really good stuff.
• 41:31
  I mean, I hate to see stock 1000 going away, but at the same
• 41:34
  time, I kind of like to see stock 1000 going away because it
• 41:37
  felt like a poor man super bike. And the Super bike grid, you
• 41:41
  know, on some races was looking really anemic this past year.
• 41:46
  So let's combine these. Let's figure out a way to give
• 41:48
  the stock 1000 bikes a little bit of concessions to make them
• 41:52
  a little more competitive against the Super bikes, but
• 41:54
  keep the cost down for them. And and let's see what the show
• 41:58
  looks like. This.
• 41:58
  Yeah, my biggest thing is I don't want to see the same three
• 42:01
  dudes every single weekend racing for the top three spots.
• 42:05
  Right. Come on, man, that's fun.
• 42:08
  Sean Dillon Kelly, though, I got to say he's probably the next
• 42:11
  closest guy to Bobby, wouldn't you think?
• 42:13
  Is coming back from Moto GP paddock in Moto 2.
• 42:18
  He's not necessarily had the best luck coming back in the in
• 42:22
  the in the Moto America. You know he got he has to be
• 42:26
  brewing too, right? No, I think I think he's one of
• 42:30
  those top talents that we have in Moto America this year.
• 42:34
  Unfortunately, you know, this past year he was on Suzuki and
• 42:37
  you know, we just know that Suzuki is just not as
• 42:40
  competitive as we would like it to be as Suzuki fans.
• 42:45
  Me rest. I don't know who else is a
• 42:47
  Suzuki fan here. I think it's just me and the DJ,
• 42:51
  that's it. 50. Percent.
• 42:55
  Hey, 50% of the viewing audience wants Suzuki to do better,
• 42:58
  that's the thing. I'm a fan of Suzuki as well.
• 43:02
  I've always wanted one. I just haven't had the luck to
• 43:04
  be able to get the title in my hand.
• 43:06
  Something always go awry. But.
• 43:10
  He just wanted to be part of the Squid Game.
• 43:12
  That's, you know, the Squid rider, you know.
• 43:14
  They're good for beginners, that's all.
• 43:16
  They're great. The SV650 is the best clapped
• 43:19
  out piece of shit you can put on the track.
• 43:22
  Sure is. But you know, if you kind of get
• 43:27
  their stuff together, I mean, we've got Ducati that's
• 43:29
  competitive. We've got Yamaha that's
• 43:31
  competitive. We've got BMW out there that's
• 43:33
  competitive. You know, we can get Honda looks
• 43:36
  like it's going to be more competitive this year.
• 43:38
  I mean, we've got a great mix of manufacturers.
• 43:41
  Suzuki needs to, you know, make that next step that hopefully
• 43:44
  they make in the next 18 months. But as far as riders, all the
• 43:49
  riders and all the teams are strong.
• 43:50
  And Cameron Beauvier and then right behind him would be like
• 43:55
  on par would be Bobby, Sean Dillon and Matthew.
• 44:00
  And then below that would be your PJS and I don't know who
• 44:09
  else is down there, Gilliam only because like the Honda might not
• 44:14
  be that great, your JD's and and then from there kind of trickles
• 44:19
  and trickles down, but the top, top guy is Cambogbier and then
• 44:22
  after that is going to be your Bobby, your Sean and your
• 44:25
  Schultz. You gonna say heroin?
• 44:28
  I mean, I know you got a ride, man.
• 44:32
  He's going to be the top ride. You're watching from the stands.
• 44:34
  You don't have a ride. I, I had this conversation with
• 44:39
  somebody a few weeks ago because they were talking about how
• 44:43
  riders are changing. A lot of riders are changing
• 44:45
  from gear this year. A lot of guys from Revit are
• 44:48
  going here. A lot of guys from iPod start
• 44:50
  going there. A lot of guys from Dines are
• 44:51
  going there. And I explained to him, I said,
• 44:54
  look, sometimes you don't have an option but to change because
• 44:57
  the team you're going to tells you you have to wear this
• 45:00
  product. And as much as you might like
• 45:03
  the product you're in, I've watched a lot of races.
• 45:05
  I've never seen somebody run across the straight away and
• 45:09
  finishing first without a bike on good looking gear, but I've
• 45:12
  seen a lot of guys on really good bikes wearing shitty gear
• 45:16
  win races. So sometimes you got to take the
• 45:18
  shitty gear and get the good bike to go win.
• 45:21
  Hey listen I can quote snatch reference all all show.
• 45:25
  Now do another one, man. The turtle and the and the dog.
• 45:32
  The rabbit and the dog, you know, but before before we move
• 45:37
  on to what most of us do, which is club race and and can prepare
• 45:41
  for next season and our offseason as we try to get
• 45:44
  ready. You know, we talked about Suzuki
• 45:47
  just, you know, joking a little bit.
• 45:50
  But like, how come Suzuki hasn't figured out that even if you
• 45:55
  know, you, you heard Aries talk about, you know, squid riders
• 45:58
  and stuff like that, people still buy Suzuki's.
• 46:01
  Why wouldn't Suzuki invest in the culture a little bit?
• 46:05
  Because I think if they did a lot more Suzuki's would would, I
• 46:09
  mean more than what's on the streets already would be on the
• 46:11
  street. What are your thoughts?
• 46:12
  We'll start with TJ. Should Suzuki be doing more for
• 46:15
  for the motorcycle culture where we see Yamaha, even Honda,
• 46:20
  Ducati, even BMW doing these things?
• 46:23
  I mean, yeah, I mean Suzuki slowly, slowly is doing little
• 46:29
  things. I mean, a lot of people want to
• 46:31
  change up the engine and stuff like that.
• 46:33
  They're doing that for the new 2026.
• 46:35
  I think they. Want to use the whole bike up
• 46:37
  man? Yeah, I know, but I mean they're
• 46:40
  one of the only ones that has the 607 fifty and 1000.
• 46:44
  A lot of bikes can't, can't have all three.
• 46:48
  We in Suzuki got all, you know, those 3 CCS.
• 46:52
  So I mean they come out with the naked versions to kind of
• 46:57
  compete where, you know, they got the GS G SX7 or six and then
• 47:04
  the GS 10 yeah, the 7:50 and then the 1000 and then now they
• 47:10
  have the GSS 8. So I mean, it's not what people
• 47:14
  really want. I mean, it's just affordable and
• 47:18
  it's, I think it's a great bike, very comfortable and easy to
• 47:21
  learn on. I mean, like you said, a lot of
• 47:25
  people want to get the, the higher brands, higher class like
• 47:28
  Ducati, which, you know, requires a lot more attention.
• 47:33
  But I feel like Suzuki definitely needs to step it up.
• 47:37
  But I feel like they've been doing OK.
• 47:39
  I just hate how like when, when the new year comes out, it's
• 47:43
  kind of like the same look. I mean, as far as like the
• 47:47
  engine, stuff like that. Like I'm talking like I'm
• 47:51
  talking, I'm talking not just like the graphics, but like, you
• 47:54
  know, just certain certain things like the dash.
• 47:58
  Like, you know, like if you want to give me the same graphics,
• 48:00
  give me a little different setup on the dash or like different
• 48:03
  mirrors or something. Doesn't have to be like a total
• 48:06
  flip. Now we gonna give you all bold
• 48:09
  new graphics and bold new paint job.
• 48:11
  That's exactly we gonna give. You, what are your thoughts,
• 48:16
  Reese? Should they be doing more?
• 48:19
  I mean on one hand, you know their old their 10 year old bike
• 48:23
  still you know are close to some to to OK. 10 year old, I want to
• 48:30
  say like 20 year old, like a 20 year old boy.
• 48:32
  God damn is still running with a 2025 newer version so I want
• 48:37
  him. They're saying we still fast.
• 48:41
  But where? Should they, should they be in
• 48:43
  the culture a little bit more than they're doing?
• 48:46
  Yeah, you still fast to go in the shop because it still breaks
• 48:48
  down fast or fast to be stolen on the street.
• 48:54
  That's OK, you can steal another one.
• 48:56
  There's so many out there. Someone steal your Jackson.
• 49:05
  Go steal another Jackson. He'll steal.
• 49:06
  That's it. There's plenty of them out
• 49:09
  there. There's plenty left.
• 49:10
  But I mean, I think they got to do something.
• 49:13
  I mean, a lot of guys don't even know.
• 49:15
  It's like ever since like Cali in Suzuki, like split because
• 49:21
  Cali was helping them out and sharing parts and doing certain
• 49:23
  things way back when, but as soon as they, it seemed like
• 49:29
  Zuki just lost their way. They just can't figure it out
• 49:32
  and can't get back into anything.
• 49:33
  They just disappeared off the face of the earth and it's kind
• 49:36
  of just sad. But yeah, it's sad.
• 49:40
  So let's look at the numbers, All right?
• 49:44
  Suzuki has been able to increase their revenue year over year
• 49:48
  since 2002. They're selling more bikes, but
• 49:52
  they're not selling the bikes that you and I see.
• 49:55
  They're selling the bikes that are needed in the emerging
• 49:57
  markets like Latin America and India.
• 50:00
  So profitability wise, in 2024, they had a significant increase
• 50:04
  in their overall net profitability because they're
• 50:07
  selling so many bikes targeted to emerging markets like India,
• 50:12
  Latin America, South America and even Africa.
• 50:16
  Now we look at it and it's like, well, what about us?
• 50:20
  What about us? We don't buy that many sport
• 50:23
  bikes anyway. Come.
• 50:25
  On we don't. If you look at the overall
• 50:27
  amount, we don't bikes in the Usus is a big market in dollars
• 50:32
  because we buy in high dollar items, but we don't buy in
• 50:35
  volume. But you know, if if you look at
• 50:39
  the Suzuki among younger people or all age people, everybody
• 50:45
  talks about Suzuki. I mean, it is like, you know,
• 50:48
  talk about temple and shoes, right?
• 50:51
  Because it's a plague. Let's say.
• 50:53
  It's really like that young person.
• 50:55
  Let's say you're getting into motorcycling today and you go
• 50:59
  into want ads or you go on Facebook Marketplace looking for
• 51:02
  a used bike. You're going to scroll through
• 51:05
  1500 Suzuki's within like 20 miles of you that are all for
• 51:11
  sale. So This is why it's in the
• 51:14
  culture, because there's so many.
• 51:15
  By I mean, remember from 2000 to 2010, Suzuki sold something like
• 51:21
  27,000,000 motorcycles. Oh wow.
• 51:26
  And, you know, this was their heyday of selling mainly in the
• 51:28
  US. the US was selling, you know, tons of Suzukis.
• 51:33
  And to this day, those bikes are out there.
• 51:34
  They might be leaking oil all over the place, but they're
• 51:37
  still out there. And people are still buying them
• 51:40
  and trading them. And they're great bikes for,
• 51:42
  again, a beginner rider, somebody new.
• 51:44
  They're analog in a digital age. They stood.
• 51:47
  They do need to catch up. And I think it's something that
• 51:51
  every couple of years the rumor starts going around, Suzuki's
• 51:54
  going to do something, Suzuki's going to do something.
• 51:57
  But what they did is they kind of said, look, we're a smaller
• 52:00
  manufacturer. We're not a Honda.
• 52:01
  We don't have the outlets to make cars.
• 52:04
  You know, you don't see Suzuki cars being sold in the US
• 52:07
  anymore because they just, they're not that big a company.
• 52:10
  Samurai. Samurai baby, that was the 90s.
• 52:14
  Go to the Samurai. You know he probably still has
• 52:19
  one in his garage. I do, I seen one recently and
• 52:23
  I'm like, I don't even know how that that's like the GSXR of
• 52:26
  Jeeps. It just won't be you like it.
• 52:43
  As a company, they've done the right thing.
• 52:45
  As a company, when did their emerging markets?
• 52:49
  At some point they have to look back at at least the US.
• 52:53
  European market is difficult to to penetrate for any brand
• 52:57
  because of the emission standards and all the
• 52:59
  regulations and everything else. But the US is definitely a place
• 53:03
  where they can see a lot of success if they brought the
• 53:06
  right products to the market. If they came up with a brand new
• 53:10
  updated GSXR 750, I don't think the 600 is even worth making
• 53:14
  anymore. Like get rid of it because the
• 53:16
  7:50 is a 600 with a different boring stroke.
• 53:20
  So don't make 2 bikes, make one bike.
• 53:22
  Make that bike really confident. Give it the updated electronics
• 53:25
  that everybody expects from a sport bike.
• 53:28
  And then do the same exact thing to the GSXR 1000.
• 53:31
  Just adding in bold new graphics.
• 53:33
  After 17 years, it's starting to get a little longer.
• 53:36
  The tooth Man. Come on man.
• 53:38
  The only upside? No, I can't.
• 53:40
  I can't say this they. Changed the stock exhaust pipe
• 53:43
  though it's not that big anymore.
• 53:45
  Yeah but who keeps the stock exhaust anyway?
• 53:50
  Only plus side is I can I can sell my 2017 and still make as
• 53:55
  much money as when I bought it in 2017.
• 53:59
  That's right. The exhaust goes from a long
• 54:01
  dingling to a short one. But I can't say this.
• 54:05
  We do as an American, we do sell and the numbers were shown that
• 54:10
  we do sell the most one thousands out of any market.
• 54:13
  Yep, we're we do we? Can't ride for shit.
• 54:17
  We got no carpet. We love horsepower.
• 54:21
  Yeah, the ER CS it all day every day.
• 54:30
  So we can't say that we go ahead.
• 54:34
  Yep. No, you're good.
• 54:36
  OK that now yeah, we do love the horsepower bike.
• 54:39
  So I, I was talking to one of the guys I met at the, at the
• 54:42
  write up yesterday and meet up yesterday and he was telling me
• 54:46
  about some young kid who bought A at 6:36.
• 54:51
  And he was telling the kid like, you know, chill out, you know,
• 54:53
  just take it easy, slow. The kids like, no, I want to go
• 54:55
  fast and blah, blah, blah. And he's like, the the next day,
• 54:58
  the kid sends him a photo of his bike and he, he, you know, he
• 55:01
  crashed the bike it, it within the next, within 24 hours, you
• 55:06
  know, that kind of thing. So there are young people who
• 55:09
  definitely want to go fast and, and don't have and think they
• 55:13
  have the skill set, but don't have the skill set to, to
• 55:16
  manage, you know, a middle weight bike, much less 1000 CC
• 55:20
  bike. So you know I mean.
• 55:24
  The thing it was two things Was that on the recall?
• 55:28
  Was that on the recall that he crashed?
• 55:31
  Did he crashed at the recall test out there?
• 55:33
  Oh. No, no, no, no not 'cause the
• 55:34
  recall. Because Cali Cali's got a well.
• 55:37
  Cali does have a big recall on the air. 636 don't do not ride.
• 55:41
  Got you, huh? Yeah, they.
• 55:44
  Just got a mother. 1 They got a second recall.
• 55:47
  Yeah, it's a do not ride on there.
• 55:50
  Yeah, it's a do not ride. Wow.
• 55:53
  I had one guy blow a rod right through his motor.
• 55:55
  Yeah, there's a second one. Yeah.
• 55:58
  Two recalls on ZX6. Right now.
• 56:03
  I, I the first, the first one was on all of them, right?
• 56:05
  All of them. *** *** 25 models. I thought, yeah.
• 56:10
  Yeah, that's not, that's not, that's not good for Kawasaki to
• 56:12
  I mean, I, I probably, well, Aprilia had that a few years ago
• 56:17
  with the RS660 and stuff like that with their engines and they
• 56:19
  replaced a lot of engines. So I, I mean, I don't know if,
• 56:23
  you know, Aprilia may have a little bit more money than than
• 56:26
  Kawi to maybe go through and and deal with all that.
• 56:28
  But they survived. The RS660 survived.
• 56:31
  It's not that it's they have less sales so they only got to
• 56:34
  fix like 8 bikes. I know the guys that are
• 56:40
  previous, I can buzz their balls.
• 56:43
  That's that's that's what's up. So let's talk about offseason
• 56:46
  shenanigans, things that we like to do in the offseason.
• 56:51
  Reese doesn't have an offseason. But if you are a Trump rider,
• 56:54
  Reese, you know, club rider, eraser, you know, what would you
• 56:59
  be doing right now for your offseason prep for next season?
• 57:03
  I know it's not going to be buying a Suzuki.
• 57:08
  No, because it might blow up, leak oil, But probably I was
• 57:12
  trying to train and trying to just get my body right, get in
• 57:16
  shape, do a lot of track day riding, try to hit the South and
• 57:19
  where it's warm and then go ride.
• 57:22
  You know, that's probably about it at the Jennings.
• 57:24
  At least it's warm day. So really no, no time off you
• 57:28
  just you just gone, gone, gone to the track because.
• 57:35
  Like, why take time off? If I want to win, I want to.
• 57:38
  I want to be better than the next guy.
• 57:40
  That's it. I want to be better than him
• 57:42
  while while I'm sleeping. Somebody's out there practicing
• 57:45
  all. Right, All right, what are your
• 57:47
  thoughts, TJ on what Reese is saying?
• 57:49
  We're going to put Reese on the spot a little bit.
• 57:51
  And Lewis, because I mean, you know, you got to you got to
• 57:53
  service suspension. I mean, you know, you, you could
• 57:56
  probably do it already. So you know, you can you can
• 57:58
  probably get your bike prepped in a weekend.
• 58:01
  There are a lot of people waiting to get their bike in and
• 58:04
  to see somebody. What are your thoughts, TJ on on
• 58:07
  offseason prepping? What are you doing to get ready
• 58:09
  for next season? You coming down this way to go
• 58:11
  to Jennings? You know, I'm thinking about it,
• 58:15
  I'm thinking about it. I like, you know, warm places,
• 58:18
  but I like I like where Reese's head is that you know, but we
• 58:23
  got different jobs and he does that for, you know, like, you
• 58:28
  know, gets real contingency and all that good stuff.
• 58:31
  So like he can, you know, really focus, but no, that mentalities
• 58:34
  you want to if you do something you love, you definitely got to
• 58:36
  go hard and you can't just do it when when the action is you got
• 58:41
  to put the work in an offseason. So this is the perfect time to
• 58:46
  get everything together for me starting in 2020.
• 58:50
  Now. I know like you got to start now
• 58:52
  because time passes so fast and and once it's really time to get
• 58:57
  the bike going, like you'll be scrambling around.
• 59:00
  So it's good to get everything in order that you typically use
• 59:05
  and all the parts that you need, you need to get ordered them
• 59:08
  now. Get the oil changes and all the
• 59:11
  flush is done now. So when it when you can after
• 59:15
  the new year, just get ready to get smooth sand, but definitely
• 59:19
  getting in shape and all that good stuff, so.
• 59:23
  Right, if you see like Reese doesn't have to go get snow
• 59:25
  removal jobs like us TJ to be able to pay off this previous
• 59:30
  season. We just completed he.
• 59:32
  He just, he's high in that situation.
• 59:37
  Yeah, I wish. Six weeks and then I can get
• 59:41
  tires. Exactly.
• 59:43
  I got to work. I still got to work.
• 59:44
  I got to pay off bills. I got it.
• 59:46
  A wife at home that eats up every bill I can do.
• 59:49
  I'm like, Jesus Christ, I got that funding.
• 59:53
  I still got to take care of man. That's a capital of W right
• 59:58
  there. Exactly.
• 1:00:02
  What are your thoughts, Louis, on prepping in the offseason and
• 1:00:05
  and you know, are you somewhere in the middle for advice?
• 1:00:09
  Because I, I know you got your Suzuki and you're just looking
• 1:00:11
  to sell it. And I don't think you're coming
• 1:00:13
  to the track, although you did say you're going to bring the R6
• 1:00:16
  down to Homestead in in. January No, I'm not selling the
• 1:00:19
  Suzuki ever. Man, that that thing is, I'm
• 1:00:22
  going to get a double wide casket and make sure they bury
• 1:00:24
  you with me. Well, the first thing you got to
• 1:00:28
  do. It don't work now as it is.
• 1:00:30
  You got to go out there, you got to find a 0 interest credit card
• 1:00:33
  for 18 months so you can take all the credit card bills that
• 1:00:36
  you accrued during the racing season and move them over to a
• 1:00:39
  zero interest long term so you can pay it off and not paying
• 1:00:44
  interest over the 18 months. Clear up your first credit card
• 1:00:46
  because now you're going to fill that credit card with all the
• 1:00:48
  stuff for this coming season and then you accrue yourself into
• 1:00:52
  debt for life as a motor. That's the first thing you got
• 1:00:57
  to do is get your finances right so you can fuck them up because
• 1:01:01
  that's what we're doing. That's what this is all about.
• 1:01:03
  How deep in debt can I get in this sport?
• 1:01:07
  Then after that you got to look at your bike, and you got to
• 1:01:10
  think about everything on your bike that can go wrong and kill
• 1:01:12
  you. And don't be cheap when you're
• 1:01:15
  fixing it. Don't buy shit off TMU.
• 1:01:18
  Don't buy things on Amazon just because they look cheap, because
• 1:01:21
  cheap now means expensive later. Check your chain.
• 1:01:28
  One thing that nobody does which blows my mind is change your
• 1:01:31
  brake fluid out. Brake fluid absorbs moisture.
• 1:01:34
  The more moisture it absorbs the less it works and over time you
• 1:01:38
  get a lot of brake fade and a lot of brake issues.
• 1:01:40
  You should really be changing your brake fluid out like twice
• 1:01:42
  a year. I mean most racers will change
• 1:01:45
  the brake fluid out almost every single event because you don't
• 1:01:50
  want it to absorb moisture and cause brake fade or or or lever
• 1:01:56
  lever feel. So change your brake fluid out
• 1:01:59
  if you can. Most people don't know it just
• 1:02:03
  shocks have oil in them just like all oil that shit goes bad.
• 1:02:08
  Like there's dudes right now right now on a 2002 GSXR 1000
• 1:02:12
  stuff the same oil from 2002 in that front end and don't
• 1:02:17
  understand why that thing is a Pogo stick in the front.
• 1:02:21
  Get your fork taken. From experience y'all.
• 1:02:24
  No, I'm speaking from. I change this stuff.
• 1:02:26
  I don't wait until my fork oil. With like.
• 1:02:29
  Mozzola inconsistency as Crisco. Like I change it when I need to
• 1:02:35
  change it with the right weight and make sure it's done
• 1:02:37
  correctly and put it back together.
• 1:02:39
  So take your forks out, take it to a good shop that can change
• 1:02:42
  the oil for you. You don't have to take the whole
• 1:02:44
  bike. If you got the ability, do it
• 1:02:46
  yourself. Take the rear shock out, have
• 1:02:48
  the oil, change the rear shock. Some of the shocks have oil and
• 1:02:51
  they have gas cartridges. Get those serviced.
• 1:02:54
  These are little things that nobody ever does.
• 1:02:57
  And I'm telling you, it will change the ride of your bike.
• 1:03:00
  It'll make it feel better. Check your sprockets.
• 1:03:04
  If you don't see pointy teeth, change your sprocket.
• 1:03:11
  It's round. That's not a good thing.
• 1:03:15
  And when you change your sprocket, change a chain, get a
• 1:03:18
  good quality chain, get something with like an X ring, a
• 1:03:21
  seal so you don't have to spray it as much or you don't have to
• 1:03:23
  maintain it as much. All these little things.
• 1:03:26
  Check the bearings. If you got the ability to take
• 1:03:29
  off the front of your bike, grease your, your, your head to
• 1:03:31
  bearings, check the bearings on your wheels like this.
• 1:03:35
  I got a list of when I used to do this as a regular thing of
• 1:03:40
  all the things that I would go through and I would keep a
• 1:03:43
  schedule and I make sure that I stay on the schedule because the
• 1:03:45
  last thing you want to do is go into turn 1:00, grab the front
• 1:03:48
  brake, your shitty ass fork or compresses completely.
• 1:03:52
  Your brakes fade like crap because you don't have good
• 1:03:54
  brake oil and then you're going into turn one in 180 miles an
• 1:03:58
  hour thinking about, man, if I just spent $30 on oil I wouldn't
• 1:04:02
  be about to hit this God damn air fence.
• 1:04:06
  I got to say, Lewis, man, it is pretty in depth.
• 1:04:10
  But first, I'm not going to have no half the things that you just
• 1:04:15
  said. Let's go back to brakes.
• 1:04:19
  Brakes. The liquid in your brake.
• 1:04:24
  If you look at that clear plastic and it's black, that
• 1:04:28
  shit is. Wrong, Yeah.
• 1:04:30
  Right to It doesn't come in black.
• 1:04:32
  That's oil. You will not be teaching first
• 1:04:38
  rider classes, everybody. Be like, Nah, Nah, this is too
• 1:04:42
  difficult for me. I quit.
• 1:04:44
  I have to go back. Listen, when he taught, he tried
• 1:04:47
  to teach Nesbo and we was all in there.
• 1:04:49
  Everybody was looking at him with the kind of the crooked
• 1:04:51
  eye, like what the fuck are you talking about?
• 1:04:54
  Hit the brake while I'm turning. I got a trail brake.
• 1:04:59
  What's trail brake? Visual things.
• 1:05:04
  Look at the little plastic container on your handlebar
• 1:05:07
  that's connected to your brake. If it's black, take that to a
• 1:05:12
  shop and get that shit changed. No, I listen, I, I agree with
• 1:05:16
  you on everything you just said and you guys just said, I think,
• 1:05:19
  you know, the biggest thing for new riders is education because
• 1:05:24
  you don't like, there's so much that you don't know that you
• 1:05:27
  should be doing. You don't know that you should
• 1:05:29
  be changing oils and anything much like, you know, the oil in
• 1:05:32
  the engine, which should be obvious, but some people don't
• 1:05:35
  even don't even do that. I mean, so it is really, you
• 1:05:38
  know, again, the credit card parts and stuff like that.
• 1:05:41
  Yet definitely racing is expensive.
• 1:05:43
  So whatever you got to do to get get prepared financially for the
• 1:05:47
  next season is important. But you know, education is the
• 1:05:50
  biggest thing If you're, you know, if, if you're like, I
• 1:05:55
  mean, I, I can wrench and I do wrench, but you know, I don't
• 1:05:57
  know what I'm doing and I hate to.
• 1:06:00
  Can I do something and Jack it up?
• 1:06:02
  I tell people don't be. Don't be scared of working on
• 1:06:05
  your bike within your comfort zone.
• 1:06:09
  If there's something you're not comfortable working on, don't
• 1:06:11
  work on it. Because again, a motorcycle, you
• 1:06:15
  only got 2 wheels, you got limited amount of parts that
• 1:06:18
  keep you up and keep you safe. If you don't feel comfortable
• 1:06:22
  doing something, don't do it. Take to a shot, pay the money to
• 1:06:25
  get it done right. If you're someone that's even
• 1:06:28
  slightly mechanically inclined and you feel comfortable in
• 1:06:31
  trying something, try it. And the best case scenario is
• 1:06:35
  you got a great resource that we didn't have back then.
• 1:06:38
  Back then, it was all bro science.
• 1:06:41
  Nah, man. This is how you do it.
• 1:06:43
  And then you do it that way you find out that's not the way
• 1:06:45
  you're supposed to do it. Everybody was doing it wrong.
• 1:06:48
  But now we've got YouTube, you can go on YouTube and they would
• 1:06:52
  teach you how to do almost every single thing.
• 1:06:54
  If you go in there and hey, how do I bleed the front brake
• 1:06:57
  master on my bike? Somebody will have a really
• 1:07:00
  detailed YouTube and a high quality, well made produced
• 1:07:04
  YouTube video on how to change the the brake fluid on your
• 1:07:08
  master cylinder, how to bleed it, how to make sure that you
• 1:07:12
  don't spill any of that brake fluid on your precious paint
• 1:07:15
  because brake fluid is like acid that will.
• 1:07:18
  Eat right through that shit. So you know how to do these
• 1:07:22
  things, how to change your front wheel.
• 1:07:24
  Don't start with your back wheel because there's a lot of moving
• 1:07:27
  parts back there. Start with your front wheel, get
• 1:07:29
  comfortable, take your front wheel off and understand how the
• 1:07:34
  bearings and the spacers work and things like that and they'll
• 1:07:37
  have one for your specific bike. I got a 1991 CBR 600F3 front
• 1:07:43
  wheel change. YouTube 18 videos will show up.
• 1:07:47
  Yeah, you know, you mentioned spaces and bearings.
• 1:07:52
  I've ridden on a track with no spaces in my KTM because I
• 1:07:54
  didn't know it was missing. And you know, I'm like.
• 1:07:57
  That must have. That must have made a real
• 1:07:59
  interesting sound. You hit the brake and you'll see
• 1:08:05
  your front wheel move from left to right.
• 1:08:06
  I'm like that doesn't look normal.
• 1:08:11
  I'll be honest with you, I was in the pit at Daytona during the
• 1:08:16
  Daytona, I think it was two years ago and they had the wheel
• 1:08:20
  set up on a wheel tree and they had the spacers already on the
• 1:08:23
  wheel on the wheel tree. They grabbed the wheel off, they
• 1:08:27
  put it on this rider's bike and they were like oh that was a
• 1:08:30
  super fast and they turned back at the wheel tree and there's a
• 1:08:32
  spacer on the wheel tree and this dude went and did 3 laps
• 1:08:38
  with no spacer. When he came in, that wheel was
• 1:08:41
  fucked up and it actually cost him the race because he had to
• 1:08:48
  pit a second time that wasn't scheduled just to put a spacer
• 1:08:52
  in. In the meantime, they had to
• 1:08:54
  change the tire from the tire they took off to a new tire, put
• 1:08:58
  it on a tire warmer, and you only had three laps to do this.
• 1:09:02
  So when he got back out there and his new tire was barely even
• 1:09:05
  warm because he didn't have time to heat up and it's caused to do
• 1:09:08
  the race so. Yeah, you got to keep your eye
• 1:09:12
  on everything. I think like I said, education
• 1:09:15
  is the best part of it all because you have to know the
• 1:09:18
  language, you have to know what you need to service, you have to
• 1:09:21
  know when you need to service. You know, we've always mentioned
• 1:09:24
  like, you know, reading the real rule books of different race
• 1:09:28
  clubs and stuff like that. So you know, you know what, what
• 1:09:31
  races you can get your bike in. You know what, what are the
• 1:09:34
  rules as far as specs? You know what can you put on a
• 1:09:37
  bike? Because some places you can't
• 1:09:38
  change your master cylinder. That's some bullshit ass.
• 1:09:41
  That's because they don't want Suzuki's racing there.
• 1:09:44
  And I mean, I could back up Lewis and what he said on one
• 1:09:47
  thing when he was saying by changing that chain, you know,
• 1:09:52
  sometimes you don't even have to change it.
• 1:09:54
  Clean it. A clean chain will save you some
• 1:09:57
  money, but it'll actually keep your rings moist.
• 1:10:01
  And then when they actually go to clean your damn chain, don't
• 1:10:04
  just clean the chain by yourself.
• 1:10:07
  Clean your front sprocket the hell out.
• 1:10:10
  Like you get so much gunk and crap up in there and it will
• 1:10:14
  actually affect your performance.
• 1:10:17
  Clean it out. Just take some brake cleaner and
• 1:10:19
  spray it and just cleaning the hell out.
• 1:10:21
  Let's brake cleaner, man. Come on.
• 1:10:23
  What are you? What's that?
• 1:10:25
  Yeah, I'm not a big fan of that. We're that we're a rule where
• 1:10:28
  you can't change the front master cylinder because anybody
• 1:10:31
  who's ever owned a Suzuki knows that the Nissan master cylinder
• 1:10:35
  that come with Suzuki's ain't worth the metal that they
• 1:10:38
  printed on. Well, that's what Suzuki is.
• 1:10:41
  You know Suzuki's not worth the metal was printed.
• 1:10:43
  On yeah, but everybody else using Nissan master cylinders,
• 1:10:46
  nobody else has the recalls and problems that Suzuki has.
• 1:10:49
  Like Suzuki went to Nissan and was like, yo, give us you what's
• 1:10:52
  your cheapest master cylinder? What's 4 levels below that one?
• 1:10:57
  That's the one we want. Bet that saves US $0.18.
• 1:11:02
  That's the one we want man, because we selling, we selling a
• 1:11:05
  million of these. So 18 cents adds up when it's a
• 1:11:07
  million. Red Bull.
• 1:11:14
  Oh my. God.
• 1:11:16
  OK, so we, we got, we got education, we got working out,
• 1:11:20
  we got servicing bikes, we got getting the finances in order,
• 1:11:26
  you know trailer prep, right? If you how you going to get your
• 1:11:29
  bike to and from, you know, the racetrack, If you were in
• 1:11:34
  Europe, you can just ride your bike and go do your track there
• 1:11:37
  and ride back. I don't know where you put your
• 1:11:38
  seat. I don't know where you put your
• 1:11:39
  water, your food and all this other stuff that you need at the
• 1:11:41
  racetrack. But I guess it rains all the
• 1:11:43
  time over in England, so you just got to hold your head up.
• 1:11:47
  You know what I give? I give so many props to guys
• 1:11:50
  that ride to the track and then go on the track with the bike
• 1:11:53
  they just rode to because that's a level of confidence that I
• 1:11:57
  don't have. What happens when I Chuck my
• 1:12:02
  shit in turn 5? Do I call Uber XL and be like yo
• 1:12:10
  just make sure you got a lot? Of energy too.
• 1:12:18
  You know you can give the guy your home address on the crash
• 1:12:27
  truck when they say why should you drop it off?
• 1:12:30
  Just leave it in that corner. Just say that stolen.
• 1:12:33
  I don't know what happened to my bike.
• 1:12:36
  Forget about. It, you know, it's it's.
• 1:12:40
  I'm done. Yeah, I think if you're close to
• 1:12:43
  the track, I think it's practical.
• 1:12:45
  But again, you're absolutely right.
• 1:12:46
  If you Chuck it down the road or I mean, granted, if you get
• 1:12:49
  anything happened to the track, I mean you, you know, you stop
• 1:12:51
  to get back from the track. So there's there's, I mean,
• 1:12:53
  regardless of transport, whether it's a car or a bike, but yeah,
• 1:12:58
  how comfortable can that be? I mean, you're, you're going on
• 1:13:00
  with street tires, St. Leathers.
• 1:13:03
  I mean, you know, you might be able to get away bring the
• 1:13:05
  backpack of of stuff. Yeah, I mean that's that's a guy
• 1:13:10
  in like the beginner group or something like that.
• 1:13:12
  It's not somebody that is going to have like a more serious
• 1:13:16
  track day or is really going to try to push their skill level
• 1:13:21
  and try to learn something unique.
• 1:13:23
  It's somebody that just wants to go out and ride, not worry about
• 1:13:26
  cars, not worry about traffic lights.
• 1:13:28
  Right, do do do half a sessions, 3 laps per session kind of
• 1:13:31
  thing. Yeah, you know to.
• 1:13:33
  That guy gets T boned in the back and then ass pass.
• 1:13:37
  Go to the go to the fuel pump at the track and pay $10 a gallon
• 1:13:41
  to to put because you don't even have a gas can.
• 1:13:45
  Like how are you coming to the track?
• 1:13:47
  Man, all right, so maybe not, maybe not riding your bike to
• 1:13:54
  the track for your first track day event, but how you know,
• 1:13:57
  like you know, talk about some of the prep stuff that you guys
• 1:14:00
  do, you know, you know, trailers and and whatnot.
• 1:14:03
  What do we need when we go to the trap besides the bike, a
• 1:14:06
  smile and some money. I mean I can I can start the
• 1:14:09
  simple way so me you know I don't have a enclosed trailer.
• 1:14:15
  So when I first got into it I really needed to find a way
• 1:14:20
  instead of just loading on the back of my pickup truck like how
• 1:14:22
  the hell I get this bike to the track.
• 1:14:24
  So end up investing in an open trailer 5 by 8 nice small one
• 1:14:29
  put some pressurized wood on it all the bolts that did all that
• 1:14:33
  stuff and two wheel trucks and eventually tried to change it to
• 1:14:37
  some pit bulls. But just throw them on there and
• 1:14:41
  comfortably strap them down and that's pretty much how I can get
• 1:14:44
  there. And it makes it so much easier
• 1:14:47
  now that I don't even typically need any help where I can just
• 1:14:52
  roll them up by myself and just strap it and go before the
• 1:14:55
  pickup truck. You know you always got to ask
• 1:14:57
  that helping hand or try to think you can manage it.
• 1:15:01
  Try to be boss and hope you don't drop your bike but.
• 1:15:04
  You know how many times I almost dropped my my my race bikes
• 1:15:08
  trying to load in the back of a pickup when I first started
• 1:15:10
  pushing bikes around? Yeah, man, so that gets old
• 1:15:14
  really quickly. I.
• 1:15:15
  Just want to embarrass myself. I'm like you got to save this.
• 1:15:18
  You got to pick this bike up. I don't know how you going to
• 1:15:19
  get it back up now, but you got to get it up.
• 1:15:23
  And it don't even matter like you show up to the racetrack and
• 1:15:25
  everyone got their RV's and campers and showing up all
• 1:15:29
  different ways, but just got to get there, you know, So, you
• 1:15:33
  know, I got the the open chair list still works.
• 1:15:35
  You know when it rains, the vice might get wet, but hey, still
• 1:15:40
  can get there and bring all your tools where you can clean it up,
• 1:15:43
  gas cans and all, you know where you can refuel all that good
• 1:15:47
  stuff. So.
• 1:15:48
  Right, Yeah, my my first track day, I didn't even bring tools.
• 1:15:52
  It's just like, oh, I guess I need a toolbox.
• 1:15:56
  They know my first track day did that.
• 1:15:59
  Yeah, based on on on you know, getting to the track and and
• 1:16:03
  prepping. I mean, you know, I I have a
• 1:16:05
  similar story. I was I was using U-Haul first
• 1:16:09
  to to trailer my my bike up after I realized I'm not going
• 1:16:13
  to load in the back of a pickup anymore because it's not for me.
• 1:16:16
  I mean my. My first track day, you know, I
• 1:16:18
  didn't have all that. I loaded in the back of a pickup
• 1:16:20
  truck and kind of just got there.
• 1:16:22
  You know, I didn't know nothing about, you know, having tire
• 1:16:26
  warmers and generators and, you know, actual food.
• 1:16:29
  I was the one that didn't have food.
• 1:16:31
  I had to go leave out the track to go get food, then come back
• 1:16:34
  and everything else. So, but you know, I mean,
• 1:16:37
  there's, there's things that you need, you need to, you know, you
• 1:16:40
  want tunnel off here, you know. Yeah, we're we're we're we're
• 1:16:52
  we're losing you a little bit your.
• 1:16:53
  Gas can I said at least have a rear stand, you know, a gas can,
• 1:17:00
  a tent over your head and a chair to sit in because your ass
• 1:17:04
  is going to be tired. You're going to be right at a
• 1:17:06
  couple of laps. You know a lot of people don't
• 1:17:09
  understand like it's it's tiring keeping your eyes open and focus
• 1:17:13
  that long. You know, it's, it's, it's a
• 1:17:16
  wear and tear, but you know, just your basic stuff, your
• 1:17:20
  basic stuff will get you a long way more than what you need.
• 1:17:24
  And bring some food and some water.
• 1:17:26
  Yeah, I will say, yeah, I will say that's the biggest thing,
• 1:17:30
  Yeah. In the bike, not knowing how
• 1:17:32
  tired I was going to be. I didn't realize how tired I was
• 1:17:35
  a little going to be. You know, it's like, you know,
• 1:17:40
  you're going, you're not in off at like 7:45.
• 1:17:43
  You know, it's kind of, it's just like it really does take a
• 1:17:46
  lot out of you, especially if you haven't been to a track and
• 1:17:49
  know that you have to work out, not like you're training for a
• 1:17:53
  marathon, but at least a half 1/2 marathon to get through a
• 1:17:57
  weekend and still walk upright when you're done.
• 1:18:01
  What do you want to add to that? Louis getting to the track and
• 1:18:03
  and being prepared and all that fun stuff.
• 1:18:06
  Same thing again. I mean it's it's depends on the
• 1:18:09
  person and where they're at in the track curve.
• 1:18:12
  If they're just starting, look at a very simple solution.
• 1:18:16
  The good thing is with most track organizations when you
• 1:18:19
  sign up for them, they usually have forums.
• 1:18:22
  You can go on the forums, you can ask people there.
• 1:18:24
  Sometimes you can even find somebody that's going there that
• 1:18:27
  can bring the bike with you. You can go the simple route and
• 1:18:31
  just rent a trailer from U-Haul if you have a way to tow it.
• 1:18:34
  If you don't have a way to tow it, you can always rent a pickup
• 1:18:37
  truck and get some ramps at at a Harbor Freight.
• 1:18:42
  It's not going to put you back a lot of money.
• 1:18:44
  Use that to get on and off. Like keep it simple, don't over
• 1:18:47
  expend. Initially when I first started
• 1:18:50
  going to the track, you know, everybody had open landscaping
• 1:18:53
  trailers. If you showed up with an
• 1:18:54
  enclosed trailer, like yo, you was a bowler, you got an
• 1:18:57
  enclosed trailer. Everybody else's bike is wet and
• 1:19:00
  full of shit that we caught along the way, but yours is dry.
• 1:19:04
  Like now you got people showing up in, you know, $500,000 mobile
• 1:19:10
  homes that are pulling, you know, full mobile, you know, toy
• 1:19:14
  haulers. It's like damn, you know, so
• 1:19:17
  just, you know, stay in your budget.
• 1:19:19
  Don't go too crazy initially, even with your gear.
• 1:19:22
  You can go on a lot of these forums, you can buy a suit used
• 1:19:25
  for like 5-6 hundred bucks. Don't go buy a brand new top of
• 1:19:29
  the line suit day one. Because again, you have to see
• 1:19:31
  if this is something you're going to enjoy.
• 1:19:33
  If it's something you're going to enjoy, then you have to
• 1:19:36
  again, look at your own personal finances, see what you can do,
• 1:19:39
  see what you couldn't afford. Make sure that it's within your
• 1:19:42
  budget because if you blow your budget too fast, then it's going
• 1:19:46
  to discourage you from being in the sport because you're going
• 1:19:48
  to be like, oh, look how much money I spent.
• 1:19:50
  Like it's got to be incremental. You can't just dump it all at
• 1:19:53
  once. And then, you know, again, as
• 1:19:57
  you grow within the track mindset and the track lifestyle,
• 1:20:02
  then you'll see that you'll start to about, well, you know
• 1:20:04
  what, I want to, I want a better trailer.
• 1:20:06
  I'm going to get an enclosed trailer.
• 1:20:07
  Oh, well, now that I have an enclosed trailer, you know,
• 1:20:09
  maybe I want a toy hauler because I want to bring my
• 1:20:11
  family with me. I want a place to stay or maybe
• 1:20:14
  I want this. And as you grow, then your needs
• 1:20:16
  will change along the way. Like right now, you know, I'm
• 1:20:19
  going to do a project where I just bought a trailer today.
• 1:20:22
  It's a blank canvas. I haven't had my own trailer in
• 1:20:26
  years, so I'm going to start from scratch again and kind of
• 1:20:29
  do everything that I know I kind of need.
• 1:20:31
  So I'm going to have some outlets put in it.
• 1:20:33
  I'm going to have a offshore connection, so if I go to a
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  track, I can plug into the circuit at the track and power
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  the outlets inside my trailer. Power a fan, power this, power
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  that. Coat the floor because most
• 1:20:47
  trailers come with unfinished floors, so you have to coat them
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  because you're a bike leak gas or you leak oil.
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  You can damage the floor and you don't want to damage the floor.
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  So these are all things that I'm going to do because I've gone
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  through the process. I know what I need.
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  But again, as you grow in the sport, slowly, incrementally
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  grow what you want to do. And you'll see as you go to the
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  track, you'll see people with trailers and you'll peek inside
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  their trailer and see their setup.
• 1:21:12
  You'll see their Pitbull restraints.
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  And you were like, oh, what are those?
• 1:21:16
  Oh, well, this is a way to hold your bike without blowing out
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  your force because you over torque the front end with
• 1:21:20
  straps. And you'd be like, oh, that's
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  why my forks always leaking. Yeah, because that ratchet is
• 1:21:27
  not to keep ratcheting it to hear that pop of your seals.
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  It's just to hold it in place. Yeah, you're absolutely right
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  there. I mean, you know, stay in your
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  budget for sure and and build up as you get as you get into the
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  sports more. Before we get out of here, one
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  last thing I got to just a thoughts on.
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  You know, I went to a meet up like I mentioned yesterday and
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  we were, we were talking and all the guys were talking.
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  I kind of always like fall back and just, you know, I'm not
• 1:21:58
  quick to run my mouth sort of thing.
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  And I heard one of the guys was talking about I don't go to
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  track days. There's just too much money.
• 1:22:04
  You know, it's like $1000 to go. And, you know, it was one of
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  those things like, well, it can be $1000, but it could also be,
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  you know, $300 or $150.00. It all depends.
• 1:22:18
  So what are your thoughts when you hear people say, you know,
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  it's too expensive to go to track?
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  That's why I don't go. You have me.
• 1:22:26
  It's true. That'll be, it is expensive, but
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  like, like Lewis said, you got to do the increments.
• 1:22:31
  So you got to find your ways. Like, like this is the right
• 1:22:34
  time right now. Black Friday, go put your money
• 1:22:37
  down on some gloves, a suit where you can get it discounted
• 1:22:40
  and then a couple months from now buy something else.
• 1:22:42
  But once you get out there and you have everything, that's when
• 1:22:46
  it, I want to say it becomes cheap because then you, you
• 1:22:50
  know, you can still mess up your Pike, but it becomes more
• 1:22:54
  sustainable where you can just manage like, hey, I want to go
• 1:22:58
  to a track there. I just paid just the track fees.
• 1:23:00
  I don't have to buy a whole suit and gloves and all that because
• 1:23:03
  I already have it. But yeah, what I also want to
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  mention is you got to ask somebody who rides the track and
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  get some help to get there. I know when I first got to the
• 1:23:14
  track, Rexy, you sold me your bike.
• 1:23:18
  And at that point I didn't even have a truck.
• 1:23:21
  I had a car. So you was actually bringing my
• 1:23:23
  bike up for the first few rounds until I found a way to, you
• 1:23:27
  know, take it, take it off your hands, but just paying it for
• 1:23:30
  it. And, you know, just there's
• 1:23:32
  people, people are so friendly at the track.
• 1:23:34
  I mean, somebody will help bring you there, bring you back, you
• 1:23:37
  know, just to get you into that experience and you don't have to
• 1:23:43
  throw all your money away just to get to the track.
• 1:23:45
  So if I had to wait for it not to be expensively first a couple
• 1:23:49
  of times. Right, right.
• 1:23:51
  Theresa, anything you want to add to that about, you know,
• 1:23:54
  when you hear the, the, you know, some people complain about
• 1:23:56
  the, the, the cost and so they don't go.
• 1:23:59
  I mean, I've heard people, you know, working in a dealership
• 1:24:02
  for so many years before I've heard people complain about the
• 1:24:05
  cost, about getting to the track.
• 1:24:07
  But a lot of times I've I've seen those guys as like, I'm,
• 1:24:11
  I'm saying something to, you know, justify me not going where
• 1:24:18
  some people are actually scared to go to the track.
• 1:24:21
  And I'm like, there's nothing to be scared about.
• 1:24:22
  You actually can ride your bike to its full potential and
• 1:24:25
  actually learn your bike to be a better, TJ said.
• 1:24:34
  There's better ways of getting to the track, not blowing all
• 1:24:36
  your wine. I mean, there's all the, like
• 1:24:38
  you said, the forums, there's people going that will help you
• 1:24:41
  get there. You know, you don't have to blow
• 1:24:44
  all your money that you can find track days that are actually not
• 1:24:47
  that expensive to be able to get to the track and just go, you
• 1:24:51
  know, and have some fun and actually learn the sport and
• 1:24:56
  learn how to actually ride and not be a nut ball out here in
• 1:24:59
  the street and make yourself a lot safer.
• 1:25:02
  You know you'll be you'll be a surprise.
• 1:25:04
  So yeah, you know, start off on a small bike.
• 1:25:07
  You know you can one, one set of ties can last the whole weekend
• 1:25:10
  on a KTM or a Ninja 400, right? Season at the whole weekend.
• 1:25:15
  All right, you can actually. And then you can flip those.
• 1:25:17
  You can flip the tires. You can always flip them.
• 1:25:20
  You know, because if you're beginning to ride or you're not,
• 1:25:22
  you're not going through ties like that.
• 1:25:24
  No, but I think some people like to buy tires and and they don't
• 1:25:29
  really need to change them yet. Yeah.
• 1:25:32
  You're not going to tires. You're not going to tires like
• 1:25:35
  that. Man, I'm like, word.
• 1:25:37
  How many races? Three.
• 1:25:38
  He's like, yeah, yeah. Funny story, I used to always
• 1:25:43
  ask racey. I'm like man, I just turn 6.
• 1:25:45
  I keep slipping. It's like I don't have a year
• 1:25:47
  grip. You look at tech man, you got a
• 1:25:49
  boy life left. So tell me that every weekend
• 1:25:53
  you still got you still got a couple more races left on the
• 1:25:55
  side. It's like off it.
• 1:25:58
  But once you once you get like faster, faster and then you you
• 1:26:02
  realize like it starts to be getting a little more dangerous.
• 1:26:05
  You got to start keeping up with all the all the tires and, and
• 1:26:11
  the fluids and all that stuff and that's when it can become
• 1:26:14
  expensive. So, but right, just just to get
• 1:26:17
  out there and and. You know, it's good, as I was
• 1:26:20
  mentioning to TJ when I said that it's good to learn how to
• 1:26:22
  ride on on worn tires. You know, it's it's it's, it's
• 1:26:26
  good to learn how to do that because if you don't know when
• 1:26:29
  the tires falling degrading, then how do you know when to
• 1:26:32
  change it? And as a beginner rider, you
• 1:26:34
  kind of just have to go and you're not again, if you're Mesa
• 1:26:37
  on these fast guys or whatever the case may be, you already
• 1:26:40
  know when you should be changing tires and you're a beginner.
• 1:26:42
  You know, you can't just be changing tires because the
• 1:26:45
  person next to you is changing tires and y'all are doing
• 1:26:47
  similar times. Yep.
• 1:26:51
  Thanks. Thanks.
• 1:26:54
  Yep. Yeah.
• 1:26:55
  And then for me, the only thing I'll add to that is there's
• 1:26:58
  always going to be people that I don't want to go.
• 1:27:00
  It's too expensive. And some people you'll never
• 1:27:04
  convince. And other people, it's like
• 1:27:06
  reset. There's a fear to them of going
• 1:27:09
  to the track. Oh, I'm going to crash my bike.
• 1:27:10
  I'm going to. I said, look, crashing your bike
• 1:27:12
  on the track is like leaving your house and saying I'm a
• 1:27:15
  crash on the street. You do you ever leave your house
• 1:27:19
  and say you're going to crash on the street?
• 1:27:20
  No, because you're going to go out and ride, same thing we're
• 1:27:23
  going to track. You go out and ride your ride
• 1:27:26
  and you ride it the way you know how to ride it.
• 1:27:28
  And you're actually going to be able to learn a little bit more.
• 1:27:30
  Some track organizations even give the first or second session
• 1:27:34
  of the day for free to a new rider just to get you to the
• 1:27:37
  track so you can see what it's like.
• 1:27:39
  And if you want to stay the rest of the day, you could stay the
• 1:27:41
  rest of the day. Like there's, there's plenty of
• 1:27:44
  excuses, but none of them are actually really good because at
• 1:27:48
  the, at the bare minimum, you're going to be a, a more confident
• 1:27:52
  rider and you're going to have the ability to do so in a safe
• 1:27:55
  environment. Whereas if you do go down at the
• 1:27:57
  track, there's medical personnel right there, There's people
• 1:28:00
  looking out for you if you crash on the street.
• 1:28:02
  I mean, they, there's a guy that crashed on the tail of the
• 1:28:04
  dragon. They found him three days later.
• 1:28:07
  Dude, I just heard about that. I heard something not I don't
• 1:28:10
  think it's the same story but some dude crashed some roads and
• 1:28:12
  they found him like 24 or 27 hours later or whatever.
• 1:28:15
  Yeah, they found this guy a couple of days later
• 1:28:18
  disemboweled because of bear ate him because he died and a bear
• 1:28:22
  ate him. So this dude left his house and
• 1:28:24
  I'm sure that wasn't on his list of I'm worried about crashing.
• 1:28:28
  You should be worried about getting about a bear, Yoka.
• 1:28:34
  I'm going to the track because I've never heard of it again.
• 1:28:37
  Eaten by a bear after they crash at the track.
• 1:28:40
  I'm just saying. Yeah.
• 1:28:42
  No, no, no, not at all. Well, guys, I think we could
• 1:28:49
  probably keep talking about this, but I think we're going to
• 1:28:51
  call it here next week. We're going to be talking about
• 1:28:56
  Moto GP first era in the Motorsports, which is 2002 after
• 1:29:01
  they left the 500CC. I don't know what Moto GP was
• 1:29:06
  called before Moto GP so I I went to look it up.
• 1:29:10
  World Championship. OK, there you go.
• 1:29:12
  Yeah. The 500, the 500CC Grand Prix or
• 1:29:16
  the 500CC World Championship? Or something like that.
• 1:29:19
  Yeah. So we'll be talking about that.
• 1:29:21
  So you're going to be hearing names that you have not heard in
• 1:29:24
  a long time or maybe ever. It's going to be very
• 1:29:27
  interesting. So definitely stick around for
• 1:29:29
  that. I want to thank everyone that's
• 1:29:31
  been commenting, liking, subscribing.
• 1:29:34
  We appreciate you because without you guys we wouldn't be
• 1:29:37
  here doing what we're doing, so keep up.
• 1:29:41
  With just four random dudes talking to cameras.
• 1:29:43
  Yeah, just before, just before random dudes.
• 1:29:45
  Actually it would be just us, like on a WhatsApp chat doing
• 1:29:49
  the same thing but not recording it.
• 1:29:51
  Exactly, exactly. You know, at least we look sane
• 1:29:56
  and and and and senile. So sane and and calm.
• 1:30:00
  So yeah, it's it's a good thing. So definitely we're going to try
• 1:30:04
  to do our part. So until next week, my name is
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  Rex 45. It's the Be Forever Cool
• 1:30:09
  podcast. You have TJ from two years and
• 1:30:11
  coffee Reese from Attack Yamaha, the numbers guy, the real Louis
• 1:30:15
  Ortega. Until next week, peace.
• 1:30:20
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