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"Running the Ultra MAGAthon." (Live from St. Louis!) · Pod Save America

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Alyssa Mastromonaco.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure about your pizza.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm Jon Lovett. I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us here tonight, former Secretary of State Jason Kander.
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  Speaker 1: And your Congresswoman, Cori Bush. All right, let's get to
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  Speaker 1: the news. We're going to kick things off with a
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  Speaker 1: quick rundown of some of the stories we're following right now.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, former Trump Defense Secretary Mark Esper has a
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  Speaker 1: new book out on Tuesday, and it's a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a doozy. He writes that in 2020, the former president,
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  Speaker 1: who suggested sending a quarter of a million troops to
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  Speaker 1: the southern border, asked Esper whether it was also possible
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  Speaker 1: to quietly launch a few missiles into Mexico to destroy
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  Speaker 1: the drug cartels saying, quote, we could just shoot some
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  Speaker 1: Patriot missiles and take out the labs. No one would
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  Speaker 1: know it was us. Esper also writes that Trump's behavior
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  Speaker 1: grew more erratic after his first impeachment. No shit. That
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  Speaker 1: he was worried Trump would order soldiers to seize the
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  Speaker 1: ballot boxes on election day. And that when protesters assembled
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  Speaker 1: outside the White House following the murder of George Floyd,
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  Speaker 1: the former president asked the defense secretary, quote, can't you
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  Speaker 1: just shoot them in the legs or something? Dan, what
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  Speaker 1: are your reactions to the story about the Republican frontrunner
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  Speaker 1: for the 2024 presidential race?
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  Speaker 4: John, have you ever heard the saying, there are no
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  Speaker 4: bad ideas in a brainstorm?
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  Speaker 3: It's not really much of a brainstorm.
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  Speaker 4: It's more of a brain sprinkle. A brain afternoon shower.
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  Speaker 1: Someone just said brain fart.
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  Speaker 5: That was good.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Way to go. I mean, it's hot.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's obviously bananas, right?
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  Speaker 6: And we can laugh about it now because President Homer
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  Speaker 6: Simpson over here is no longer in charge of said
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  Speaker 6: Patriot missiles.
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  Speaker 4: But it is, I think, the fact that we're learning
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  Speaker 4: about it now is what.
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  Speaker 1: Why are we just learning about it now, Mark Esper?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I hate to tell you, John, but the people
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  Speaker 6: who work for Donald Trump are morally fucking bankrupt.
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  Speaker 4: Because think about this.
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  Speaker 6: Mark Esper sat there for however many years he was
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  Speaker 6: in that job and saw Trump say deeply dangerous and
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  Speaker 6: deranged things, promised to commit crimes, war crimes, crimes at
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  Speaker 6: home and abroad.
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  Speaker 4: Did he hold a press conference?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 4: Did he go to Congress and tell people?
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 4: Did he even bother to anonymously leak them in a playbook?
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 4: He just squirreled them away in a little notebook so
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  Speaker 4: he could cash out later in this book.
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  Speaker 6: And now I know everyone here loves to read things
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  Speaker 6: about Trump seeming stupid.
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  Speaker 4: But if you buy this book, you're rewarding that behavior.
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  Speaker 4: Don't buy the book. We'll give you the best parts.
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  Speaker 1: You think this audience was in danger of going out
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  Speaker 1: to buy the book?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, people like to read. I mean, he's got
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  Speaker 6: a book coming out. Kellyanne Conway has a book coming out.
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  Speaker 4: This is all happening.
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  Speaker 1: Is this by way of promoting?
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  Speaker 4: I was going to say, if you're going to buy
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  Speaker 4: a fucking book, I got a book for you. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: Dan Pfeiffer, you have a book coming out?
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  Speaker 5: Dan does have a book.
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  Speaker 1: Dan does have a book. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: There's also it's not just that they were swirling away
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  Speaker 3: things for a book. It is part of a larger
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  Speaker 3: issue of some of these people that worked for Trump
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  Speaker 3: or were in the administration and became, you know, quote.
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  Speaker 4: Unquote whistleblowers after.
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  Speaker 3: There are there are a fair number of people in government,
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  Speaker 3: in the media that would rather watch the country burn
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  Speaker 3: to the ground than be seen as having taken a
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  Speaker 3: stand in an election.
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  Speaker 4: They would rather watch everything burn than take a side.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Esper has, in his interview so far, he
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  Speaker 1: has like the Dina Powell excuse, the excuse of some
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  Speaker 1: of the others who are like, I didn't say anything
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't quit at the time because there needed
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  Speaker 1: to be an adult in the room. And if I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't there, it would have just been Stephen Miller.
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  Speaker 2: An adult would have convened the cabinet to invoke the
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  Speaker 2: 25th Amendment.
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  Speaker 3: I also want to make one more point about this,
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  Speaker 3: which is, this theory that Trump had about the fact
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  Speaker 3: that nobody would know it was a Patriot missile.
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  Speaker 1: You think there's some holes in that theory?
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  Speaker 3: It's like he hasn't seen Clear and Present Danger. They
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  Speaker 3: tried it in that film, and both Harrison Ford and
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  Speaker 3: Latin Harrison Ford figured out, one through computers and the
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  Speaker 3: other through books, that it was a cellulose-encased laser-guided bomb,
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  Speaker 3: and that only the Americans had them. LAUGHTER And I
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  Speaker 3: want you to know I didn't prepare that.
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  Speaker 4: I remembered that while I was sitting here.
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  Speaker 2: He did, but he's been very Harrison Ford heavy all day.
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  Speaker 1: I will say that Don Jr. 's response on Twitter was,
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  Speaker 1: is this supposed to be a bad thing? That's why
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  Speaker 1: he's standing by launching Patriot missiles into Mexico.
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  Speaker 3: Just doing lines of blow and watching Jack Bauer on 24.
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  Speaker 6: While just hoping at some point his father will say,
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  Speaker 6: I love you.
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  Speaker 9: I love you.
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  Speaker 3: That's the Patriot missile he's been waiting to be hit by.
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  Speaker 1: All right, this next story is for you, Lovett. Here's
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  Speaker 1: the headline from Yahoo News from today. Madison Cawthorn says
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  Speaker 1: blackmail won't win after nude thrusting video leaks. What a headline.
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  Speaker 1: The story goes on to say that after a video
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  Speaker 1: appeared on social media showing a nude Cawthorn making thrusting
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  Speaker 1: motions near the face of another man, the 26-year-old congressman
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  Speaker 1: treated that he was being crass with a friend, acting
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  Speaker 1: foolish and joking, and that this was a, quote, drip,
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  Speaker 1: drip campaign of blackmail that will not succeed. Love it?
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  Speaker 1: Still would?
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  Speaker 9: Thank you for.
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  Speaker 1: Your question. That was the question that most people wanted
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  Speaker 1: to know.
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  Speaker 4: Couple points.
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  Speaker 5: One.
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  Speaker 4: It was a drip-drip campaign, and then they tried to
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  Speaker 4: smear him.
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  Speaker 1: Oh!
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  Speaker 4: Two, two, and this is an announcement. This is news.
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  Speaker 4: I officially wouldn't. I can't. Let me tell you why.
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  Speaker 9: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: I hate everything about that clip. The cinematography.
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  Speaker 3: The noises, the toxic masculinity, the homophobia. A reminder, you
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  Speaker 3: can't put your dick on someone's face ironically.
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  Speaker 4: You just can't. That's not how it works. You know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: You can't.
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  Speaker 4: That's just, you know, eating St.
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  Speaker 3: Louis pizza, telling a racist joke, putting your dick on
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  Speaker 3: a friend's face.
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  Speaker 4: It's never ironic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But I will say this, Madison Cawthorn is despicable, he's
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  Speaker 3: a misogynist, he's bigoted, he's a liar, he's a fraud. However,
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  Speaker 3: this smear campaign is not exposing him on any of
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  Speaker 3: those fronts. It is exposing him for being a young
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  Speaker 3: person who maybe did some things in his life that
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  Speaker 3: wore lingerie on a fucking cruise, put his dick on
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  Speaker 3: a friend's face.
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  Speaker 4: But for the grace of God, go any one of us.
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  Speaker 3: But in all seriousness, we are about to enter a
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  Speaker 3: new age where young people are going to have a
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  Speaker 3: digital record that follows them for their entire lives. And
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  Speaker 3: we have to get pretty mature pretty fast about this.
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  Speaker 3: People send funny things in their Venmo line. They say
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  Speaker 3: things like, this was for sex and drugs. Sometimes it's not.
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  Speaker 3: You know, fratty guys do fratty stuff. And honestly, I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to, and you know, they can do what
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  Speaker 3: they want.
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  Speaker 4: It's not for me. Not my culture.
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  Speaker 3: But But what we don't want is that the only
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  Speaker 3: people who run for office are people who decided when
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  Speaker 3: they were 11 sitting quietly in a library reading books
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  Speaker 3: about world conquerors that they wanted to be president.
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  Speaker 4: We want other people.
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  Speaker 3: Who live real lives and have fun and make mistakes
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  Speaker 3: and do drugs and aren't so ambitious from a young
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  Speaker 3: age that all they think about is winning. Otherwise, we'll
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  Speaker 3: be left with only those creepy freaks that.
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  Speaker 1: We all know from high school.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want that. It's 2022.
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  Speaker 3: Women can be psychopathic, ambitious freaks.
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  Speaker 4: And that's important.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I feel seen. I feel seen. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm less interested in what this is about Cawthorn
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  Speaker 1: and more about the people behind this campaign. You mean
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  Speaker 1: the orgy leaders? Yeah, clearly the orgy leaders are pissed.
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  Speaker 1: Someone on Twitter said that at least when the mob
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  Speaker 1: does a hit, it's fast. I saw that too. I
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  Speaker 1: have never seen a takedown so prolonged and vicious.
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  Speaker 4: And then they tried to smear him.
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  Speaker 2: Once it was funny.
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  Speaker 1: Also, it just gets me... What gets me angry is
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  Speaker 1: how many bad politicians and bad people in their party
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  Speaker 1: that they have just let slide. And Madison Cawthorn, they
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  Speaker 1: have decided that they're going to take him down.
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  Speaker 4: Once again... giving some credence to the orgy thing.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. Oh, my God. Yeah, the orgies were definitely real.
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  Speaker 4: There's never been an orgy. That's crazy. Flips the kill switch, activating...
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  Speaker 4: some kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of internecine destruction machine. And by the way, hey, Democratic,
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  Speaker 3: the backroom Democrats, if they can exist, do we not
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  Speaker 3: have this kind of machine? Can we not do this
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  Speaker 3: to some of our people?
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  Speaker 4: We got to get people in line, too. Why do
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  Speaker 4: you think it's named Almost Heaven? Joe Manchin putting his
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  Speaker 4: dicks on any faces?
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  Speaker 1: I feel like he's been putting his dick on our
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  Speaker 1: face for like a year.
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  Speaker 4: I can't get Joe Manchin's dick off my face.
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  Speaker 9: I'm uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been able to see straight.
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  Speaker 3: It's nice to see a party just threaten somebody.
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  Speaker 5: Just kidding, sort of.
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  Speaker 1: Let it be said that there was a spirited defense
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  Speaker 1: of Madison Cawthorn on Pod Save America in St. Louis tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Episode title?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Finally, last story. Serious one. Chuck Schumer has set a
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  Speaker 1: vote this coming week on a bill to codify abortion
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  Speaker 1: rights into federal law. Other developments on this issue... Chief
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  Speaker 1: Justice John Roberts just told a judicial conference last night
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  Speaker 1: that the leak of the draft opinion overturning Roe v.
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  Speaker 1: Wade is, quote, absolutely appalling but would not affect the
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  Speaker 1: final outcome of the court's deliberations. And Donald Trump, the
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  Speaker 1: man responsible for confirming three of the five judges who
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  Speaker 1: may vote to end the constitutional right to an abortion,
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  Speaker 1: was uncharacteristically quiet about the leak during an interview at
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  Speaker 1: Mar-a-Lago saying, quote, nobody knows what exactly it represents if
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be it. Some people maybe say it's
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  Speaker 1: my fault, and some people say thank you very much. Alyssa, reserved, cautious,
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  Speaker 1: humble aren't usually words that we associate with Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think's going on there?
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  Speaker 2: I think there's several things at play. One, Trump reads polls.
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  Speaker 2: He knows 69% of America is for Roe, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Nice.
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  Speaker 2: He knows. He's stupid, but he can read.
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: So that's one thing. Here's the other thing. You guys.
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  Speaker 2: Who has gone to greater lengths to protect their fake
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  Speaker 2: fortune than Donald Trump? Okay? Do you think that he's
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  Speaker 2: going to let, like, children who aren't Ivanka, Don, and
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  Speaker 2: Eric run around?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there are others, too. But there is no
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  Speaker 2: way that this man has not.
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  Speaker 2: Been aware of an abortion in his universe before that
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  Speaker 2: benefited him in some way. Okay, there's no way. So
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  Speaker 2: I think even he, now this is just me, you know,
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  Speaker 2: having a good time, but there have to be people
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  Speaker 2: with receipts out there who are waiting for the minute
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  Speaker 2: to be like, oh, oh, you're glad Roe is gone?
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you my Roe and Trump story. And
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  Speaker 2: so that is what I wait for with bated breath.
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  Speaker 1: All right. I like that. I'll take that.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Dan, why is Chuck Schumer holding a vote for a
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  Speaker 1: bill that he knows won't pass again?
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  Speaker 4: It's a great question, John.
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  Speaker 1: Does he think we can't count the votes?
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  Speaker 6: Look, I think in a world in which you have
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  Speaker 6: very limited and not great options, this is an option.
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  Speaker 6: And I think probably the best case you can make
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  Speaker 6: for it is... it would force everyone to go on
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  Speaker 6: the record, right? It would force Ron Johnson, who is
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  Speaker 6: up for reelection, to vote against this. Also, if Democrats
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  Speaker 6: are deft, it is a way to go to the
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  Speaker 6: country and say, give us two more Democrats, and we
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  Speaker 6: will have a pro-choice majority in the Senate that will
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  Speaker 6: codify Roe and undo the damage the court has done.
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  Speaker 6: And so whether that is John Fetterman in Pennsylvania, someone
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  Speaker 6: in Wisconsin, Cherry Beasley in North Carolina, is that there
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  Speaker 6: are candidates out there who, if they get to the Senate,
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  Speaker 6: will undo the filibuster.
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  Speaker 4: To pass this bill.
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  Speaker 1: Love it. Is that the best message for Biden and
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats on this issue on a national level?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's a big piece of it. Brian
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  Speaker 3: Boitler wrote a great piece about this in his Big
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  Speaker 3: Ten newsletter. And the point that he made, which I
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  Speaker 3: also think is a very good one, is if what
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  Speaker 3: we're saying, we mean what we say, and I think
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  Speaker 3: we do, that what we're seeing here is the first
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  Speaker 3: step in a plan not just to undo Roe, but
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  Speaker 3: to undo rulings that protect contraception, undo rulings that protect
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  Speaker 3: gay marriage, then And if we believe that there is
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  Speaker 3: a majority in this country that agrees with us vociferously,
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  Speaker 3: and I think we do, then let's go to Congress
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  Speaker 3: and say, all right, let's not just put a bill
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  Speaker 3: up to codify Roe. Let's put a bill up to
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  Speaker 3: guarantee a right to same-sex marriage. Let's put a bill
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  Speaker 3: up to guarantee a right to contraception. And I think
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  Speaker 3: it's really smart. You know, it's a point that Dan
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  Speaker 3: makes all the time. You know, I think we've tried
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  Speaker 3: avoiding the culture war.
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  Speaker 4: It has come. It is door-to-door.
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  Speaker 3: You can't hide from it. So let's win the culture war.
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  Speaker 3: Let's win it. The reason we're having these fights, I mean,
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: think about who the Republicans have chosen as their enemies
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  Speaker 3: in just the past couple months. Twitter, Google, Disney, NFL, NBA.
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  Speaker 3: They have lost vast parts of the country. They have
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  Speaker 3: lost this cultural fight. They are having a kind of
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  Speaker 3: rearguard action against their failure over decades to keep people
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  Speaker 3: in line on these cultural issues. We have won these
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: fights with the public. We just have not won them
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  Speaker 3: in Congress. We've not won them in the laws. We've
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  Speaker 3: not won them in the courts. So let's put ourselves
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: in a good position to make these guys take some
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: incredibly unpopular votes.
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  Speaker 1: We talk a lot about what's the most effective message,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: but a good message always starts with what's the most
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  Speaker 1: honest message. And the most honest message is just that.
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  Speaker 1: We do not have 51 Democratic senators who are willing
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  Speaker 1: to get rid of the filibuster and and codify abortion
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  Speaker 1: rights into federal law after november we have enough seats
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  Speaker 1: up that we could have that majority after november and
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  Speaker 1: so people have to elect those democrats yeah that's it
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  Speaker 1: that's the truth.
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  Speaker 2: I mean yes i agree with all that and you're
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  Speaker 2: all i'm gonna speak from a place of raw emotion
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  Speaker 2: and not uh this is not measured it's not necessarily
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  Speaker 2: well thought out but like The truth is that like
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  Speaker 2: we knew this was coming. The Supreme Court decision was
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: always coming in June or July. And I definitely agree
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  Speaker 2: that the vote should happen. But we know what's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen when they take this vote. And what I
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: worry about and what I hope happens after this vote
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  Speaker 2: is that as they're creating this theater, the vote's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen. It's going to fail. People are going to
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  Speaker 2: be on the record. But we all talk about this
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  Speaker 2: all the time. And there are just, like, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fucking Americans who are going to see the vote
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  Speaker 2: fail and be like, now what the fuck? They're going
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  Speaker 2: to be twice as terrified as they are now. And
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  Speaker 2: so I just hope that, like, while I get this
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  Speaker 2: fucking messaging vote they're going to take, I hope they
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  Speaker 2: come out of it with some action and information for
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: people who are going to be even more scared after
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  Speaker 2: the vote than they are right now.
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  Speaker 1: No, Alyssa, like, I.
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  Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. And like, I think that
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  Speaker 1: what Dan and Lovett were just saying is should be
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  Speaker 1: the message. I think like Schumer and Biden could have
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  Speaker 1: started with that as opposed to taking a vote. But
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  Speaker 1: like you said. for a lot of people who don't
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  Speaker 1: pay close attention, is going to be like, oh, this
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  Speaker 1: vote failed. Like with voting rights. The same thing happened
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: with voting rights. And I don't know that the show
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  Speaker 1: vote actually gets you much.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it gets you anything. Like it'll get
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: you some snippets and ads that happen in the fall.
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  Speaker 2: But I just think that like this is an issue
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  Speaker 2: that affects people. Like the day after the Supreme Court
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  Speaker 2: issues their decision, if it is what the draft says
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: it will be, Fucking women are fucked. People are fucked.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Women and people. Everybody's fucked, okay? But like, but there
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: just needs to be more done to, you know, people
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: much smarter than me, I hope, are working on a
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: plan for how to message to folks who need reproductive
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: health care where they can find it, how it will happen,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: and why they shouldn't be as fucking scared.
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, I very much agree that, like, the vote
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: is a very unsatisfactory response to it, and what is
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: key is if you set expectations, right? Like that is the,
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: like I would not put expectation setting like pretty high
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: on Chuck Schumer's list of strengths, but it is like,
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: you have to say like, this is, this is going
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: to fail. Here's why it's going to fail. Here's what
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: we're going to do. But we want to, we want
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: to make everyone go on the record and say this
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: because it can't be seen as a solution to it
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: because it is not right.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: And the other thing I would say too, is I
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: do think, you know, people who are incredibly engaged Democrats
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: who are incredibly engaged people on social media that are
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: incredibly engaged, they'll say, look, Democrats failed. But when we
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: have this vote, the vast, vast majority of Democrats, all
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: but a handful, will support it. And the Republican Party
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: will basically be aligned against it. And it will be
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: a vote to show the country that in November, you
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: have a choice. You could send more Democrats and protect
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: abortion access and protect reproductive health care, protect gay marriage,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: protect access to contraception and IVF and IUDs and medical
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: treatment and preventing women from going to jail for having miscarriages.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Or you can allow Republicans to win Congress and potentially
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: put them on a path to pass a nationwide ban
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: on abortion that would affect everywhere, every liberal state, every
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: conservative state, everywhere. And I think if we can talk
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: about this in terms of Republicans versus Democrats and not
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: the failure to get a few Democrats to take it
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: over the finish line, I think that's the expectation I
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: think we need to set.
• 19:30
  Speaker 9: I agree with that.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: And that will depend on us Democrats who at large
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: communicate that message because the New York Times headline will
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: be Democrats split on abortion bill when it's 48.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Which is why I said from the beginning, we need
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: to shut down the New York Times.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Alyssa, what should people here in Missouri know about what
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a post-Roe world would look like in this state?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: You guys, I'm here for all the good news tonight.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: So we know what's going to happen, right? Like the
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: day after Roe, rich ladies are always going to be able,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: rich people are always going to be able to find
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: an abortion if they need it. Abortions will still happen.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: They will just be dangerous for a lot of people
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: who are seeking them out. Instead of being able to
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: go to your local clinic and have a procedure that
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: is safe and easy, you may have to travel. You
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: may have to get child care. You may have to
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: take time off of work. Organizations now will start popping
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: up even more than they have. You'll have people who
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: are raising the money, and then you'll have people who
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: are working on the logistics to help people get the
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: abortions that they need. should be able to get pretty easily. Um,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: it's pretty much what's going to happen.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you all have some outstanding advocates for
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: reproductive justice, uh, here in the state. And, um, a
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: couple of them are here with us tonight. So, uh,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: please join me in welcoming Michelle Landau and Jess Lambrecht
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: of the Missouri Abortion Fund.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Take it away. Hello.
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: Sorry.
• 21:13
  Speaker 10: I'm not used to speaking on this high quality of
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: a mic. My name is Michelle.
• 21:19
  Speaker 11: And I'm Jess.
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: And we are here to represent the Missouri Abortion Fund.
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: We are a fund.
• 21:25
  Speaker 12: We've been funding procedures for Missourians since 2016. We are
• 21:30
  Speaker 12: a proud member of the National Network of Abortion Funds,
• 21:34
  Speaker 12: which is a group of over 80 different abortion funds,
• 21:37
  Speaker 12: some of which provide funding for the actual procedure like
• 21:40
  Speaker 12: we do, some of whom provide more practical support and
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: logistical support. Shout out to Midwest Access Coalition. They help
• 21:47
  Speaker 12: Missourians out with that work. But one thing that I
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: like to just point out is that the Missouri Abortion
• 21:56
  Speaker 12: Fund funds Missourians no matter where they go.
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: In the country.
• 22:01
  Speaker 12: And we fund people who have to travel very, very
• 22:03
  Speaker 12: long distances already.
• 22:06
  Speaker 10: And again, this is very much pre-Roe falling.
• 22:09
  Speaker 12: In 2021, we funded 1,866 abortions for Missourians.
• 22:16
  Speaker 10: Thank you.
• 22:19
  Speaker 12: Only two of those abortions actually occurred within the state.
• 22:23
  Speaker 12: So one thing that we like to always say is
• 22:25
  Speaker 12: that just because something is legal does not mean that
• 22:28
  Speaker 12: it is accessible. People who are most harmed by abortion
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: restrictions are people who just don't have a lot of money.
• 22:35
  Speaker 10: And that's just what it is.
• 22:37
  Speaker 12: The average cost of an abortion for someone who received
• 22:40
  Speaker 12: funds from us was $ 671. And that's something that they
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: have to have cash up front on the day of
• 22:48
  Speaker 12: their appointment. And unfortunately, that's just not realistic for a
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: lot of people. But that we believe that that doesn't
• 22:54
  Speaker 12: mean that they should be barred from getting the health
• 22:57
  Speaker 12: care that they deserve.
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: So we work with clinics. Thank you.
• 23:03
  Speaker 12: We work with clinics to ensure that they can give
• 23:07
  Speaker 12: grants to Missourians if they express a financial need. We
• 23:12
  Speaker 12: work with people who are as far away as Washington, D.C.
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: New Mexico, Colorado.
• 23:18
  Speaker 12: Also, the clinics right over on the other side of
• 23:20
  Speaker 12: the river, Hope Clinic for Women in Granite City and
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: Planned Parenthood and Fairview Heights.
• 23:25
  Speaker 13: Yes, Hope Clinic.
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: And Planned Parenthood of Great Plains in Kansas.
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: Yeah, one more thing I'll just say is since 2016,
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: we have funded 6,000 Missourians, over 6,000, and 500 of
• 23:35
  Speaker 12: those have already been helped so far in 2022.
• 23:48
  Speaker 11: So to add to what Michelle said, the purpose and
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: the reason that our existence as funds is so vital
• 23:54
  Speaker 11: and critical is in the state of Missouri, you cannot
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: use your insurance nor Medicaid to pay for your abortion.
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: Doesn't matter.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Not allowed.
• 24:02
  Speaker 11: So it is critical that we are funding abortions. So
• 24:06
  Speaker 11: that's my pitch to you all. Give us some money.
• 24:10
  Speaker 11: Fund abortions. Fund your neighbors and friends and family.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: We are getting abortions.
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: Abortion funds are here to stay. We're not going anywhere.
• 24:20
  Speaker 11: And so you can fund us if you're part of
• 24:22
  Speaker 11: another community. You can check out the National Network of
• 24:24
  Speaker 11: Abortion Funds. You can donate. to us at mofund.org. You
• 24:29
  Speaker 11: can also follow us on social at Mo Abortion Fund.
• 24:33
  Speaker 11: We've got a newsletter to check out. And just again,
• 24:36
  Speaker 11: we encourage you all to say abortion, talk about abortion.
• 24:40
  Speaker 11: It's not about, you know, using, you know, synonyms and euphemisms.
• 24:44
  Speaker 11: You need to be saying abortion.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Shout it out. Talk about it. Fund it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: Um, thank you all for your time. Thank you all
• 24:52
  Speaker 11: for having us tonight.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you for what you do.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Have a good time. Thank you for your work. Appreciate it. Um,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: for everyone listening at home, if you want to help also, uh, vote,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: save America is now your one-stop shop for the fuck
• 25:10
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• 25:16
  Speaker 1: get to work advancing reproductive justice and protecting access to abortion,
• 25:20
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• 25:23
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• 25:30
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• 25:34
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• 25:37
  Speaker 1: more news in just a bit.
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: And we're back.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: The 24-7 news cycle never pauses for even a moment,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: but sometimes we like to take a few beats and
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: bring things to a complete halt with a little game
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: we call OK Stop.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: You know how this works.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: We'll watch a video, and I'll stop the video with
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: my signature catchphrase, OK Stop. We'll give our opinions, and
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: we'll give you the boost you all need to keep going.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Are you ready?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not even going to introduce the clip. Let's just
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: see where it takes us.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: Let's talk about this something new that kind of got
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: sprung on us last week. For the last few months,
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: we have had a disinformation czar and a unit within
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: the Homeland Security Department. And even Mayorkas said on Sunday, yeah,
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: I probably could have rolled that out a little bit better.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, stop.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Seems like they could have, actually.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I like that his big complaint was that it was
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: sprung on us. It was sprung on us here at
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Fox and Friends, a disinformation unit. We weren't prepared for disinformation.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, they didn't even ask us for our advice,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: and we are the fucking experts. If you're going to
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: open up a chocolate factory in Pennsylvania, you call Hershey's.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Did you guys ever.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Notice that Kilmeade's name sounds like kill me? Something to
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: think about.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, coincidence.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Let's keep going.
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: Find out who's in charge of it. And this woman
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: that's in charge of it, Nina Jankiewicz, who's about eight
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: and a half months pregnant, so I'm not sure how
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: you get a job and then you just, you can't
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: do a job for three months.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: Okay, stop.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: A twist. A twist. You know what?
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: This is a guy. He went the wrong way on
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: the Friendly's menu maze.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, no.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: My brain took me to the wrong part of the maze.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: This was about disinformation.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: It's honestly the most honest thing anyone said on Fox
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: and Friends in the history of the show.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, just tell me. You've never heard of the
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Pregnancy Discrimination Act without saying you've never heard of the
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Pregnancy Discrimination Act.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I thought we were going to get all kinds of
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: ranting about a disinformation thing. No, he swerved way out
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: of his lane.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Let's hit the pregnant lady.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I just, I just, it was, he was riffing. He
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: was doing some jazz. He was doing some right wing jazz, uh, scooby-dee-bop.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: And he's like, they let.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: The pregnant ladies do labor. What?
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Eight and a half months pregnant. That's a mistake.
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: I'm not faulting her, but I don't know why you
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: give someone a job that you think.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Is so important.
• 28:40
  Speaker 13: How long has she had this job?
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: About two months, it looks like.
• 28:43
  Speaker 10: Well, I'll defend her on that one, Brian.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: She has the right to have a baby and have
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: maternity leave. Okay, stop.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I just, you know. Well, she has it right now.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: During this broadcast, we'll check back in after the commercial
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: break to see if it is still all right.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I do like that. this person on the panel did
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: briefly remember she was a woman.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: Or an American.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: She can choose not to be pregnant. Oh, no, she can't. No,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I've just been told there's been a development.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: No, but see, this is their whole plan. Pregnant people
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: can't have jobs. Good ones.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Just saying.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: I also just like when you're sitting next to Brian
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Kilmeade on live television. you are sitting next to a
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: baby holding a hand grenade. Your fate is 100% tied
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: to this person. And at any moment, pull the pin.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: And you're trying.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Because she's sitting there, she's like, oh, fuck, I got
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: to say something, otherwise I'm going to clip on Media
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Matters for the rest.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Of my life.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I got to get some moosh.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I got to create distance right fucking now from this
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: fucking moron. Well, Brian, our concerns about the disinformation board
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: is not that the woman running it has a uterus,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: you dumb motherfucker. Our problem is we are a massive
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: propaganda organ of right-wing politics that's a cancer on our society.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Let's continue the clip.
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: But if you really want to have someone head up
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: an organization, this is the face of the organization.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: She's a musical.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: She's passionate for musical theater.
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: And she also is passionate for disinformation. Like the Steele
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: dossier is accurate. Like the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation.
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: So she's in charge of the disinformation board.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: Yet she thought Hunter laptop story and continued to say
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: that that was disinformation.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: What?
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: We are into the MAGA Mad Libs phase of the
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: program right now.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: You can't really understand this without buying... There's like.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Zeta Stone? Yeah, you need the book that comes with
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: the game. You know, like the.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: If you've ever played Dark Souls, you can also buy
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: a companion to help you understand the lore.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: This is deep lore.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: You can't just start. You can't just start with the
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: multiverse of madness. You have to understand what happened in Endgame.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: I don't even know if that's true.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I will say, I don't think this disinformation board was
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: well handled.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: They're saying so much stupid shit that you might wonder
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: why the head of the disinformation board is singing on
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: a TikTok. It's a little weird. It's a little weird.
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: It's a little extra.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: It's a little weird.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: I think....
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: Maybe the hallmark of a not well-handled rollout is when
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: people like us who consume the news pretty vociferously discover
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: the fact of the information board in the okay, stop clip.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, really, it was just you I knew.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: And that's okay, stop. All right, time for some more news.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: During the 2020 campaign... We all remember that. Joe Biden
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: famously said that after Donald Trump left the White House,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Republicans in Congress would have a, quote, epiphany and start
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: working with him and Democrats again. That has not come
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: to pass. And lately, President Biden has been amping up
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: his anti-Republican rhetoric. A few weeks ago, he said, this
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: ain't your father's Republican Party. Not a joke. Later, he said,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: this is the MAGA Party now. These guys are a
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: different breed of cat.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: It's raspberries, I'm telling you. These guys ain't the cat's pajamas.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Leave the cats out of it.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Also not a joke. Also not a joke. And then
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: last week at the White House, he delivered his strongest
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: speech yet about Republicans saying that, quote, the MAGA crowd...
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: is the most extreme political organization that's existed in recent
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: American history. And he called, yeah, all right, let's clap
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: for that. And he called Senator Rick Scott's proposal to
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: raise taxes and gut healthcare the ultra-MAGA agenda. You know what,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I think Joe is onto something. Let's play the clip.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: I'm not arguing.
• 33:36
  Speaker 14: The merits or lack of merits of same-sex marriage. I
• 33:40
  Speaker 14: believe the states and the voters can choose what they will,
• 33:46
  Speaker 14: and that's their prerogative, and I think that's legitimate.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: So you would be okay with the Supreme Court leaving
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: the question of interracial marriage to the states?
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: Yes, I think that that's something that if you're not
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: wanting the Supreme Court to weigh in on issues like that,
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: you're not going to be able to have your cake
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: and eat it too.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: I think that's hypocritical.
• 34:09
  Speaker 13: Rape is a difficult issue.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: And it emotionally scars the individual.
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: All are in part for the rest of their life.
• 34:18
  Speaker 14: It is a shame that it happens, but there's an
• 34:21
  Speaker 14: opportunity for that woman, no matter how young or old
• 34:25
  Speaker 14: she is.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: You know, having three daughters, and I tell my daughters, well,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: if rape is inevitable, you should just lie back and
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: enjoy it.
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: Let's say you take these books out of the library.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: What are you going to do with them? You going
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: to put them in the street? Let them on fire.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Where are they going?
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: I don't have a clue, but I would burn them.
• 34:48
  Speaker 15: Recently put out an 11 point plan to rescue America.
• 34:52
  Speaker 15: Two of the big points of which are, quote, all
• 34:54
  Speaker 15: Americans should pay some income tax to have skin in
• 34:57
  Speaker 15: the game, even if a small amount. It also says
• 35:01
  Speaker 15: all federal legislation sunsets in five years. If a law
• 35:05
  Speaker 15: is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again. So that
• 35:08
  Speaker 15: would raise taxes on half of Americans and potentially sunset
• 35:12
  Speaker 15: programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. Why would you
• 35:17
  Speaker 15: propose something like that in an election year?
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: Well, John, that's, of course, the Democrat talking point.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: No, no, it's in the plan.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I will point out those were all elected Republicans in
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: all of those clips. Those are all Republican officials. Anyone
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: have other good examples we may have left out of
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: the video for time? Did I miss anything else?
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Pretty representative.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: There was one today that I wanted to bring up,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: which was Kansas Senator Roger Marshall, right next door in Kansas. Yeah, exactly.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: And a bunch of other Republican goobers in the Senate
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: sent a letter to the TV Parental Guidelines Advisory Board
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: asking them to add a new rating to inform parents
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: whether a show contains content related to sexual orientation or
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: gender identity.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: This content is rated awesome.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, they just keep coming.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: During the primary, I think one of our frustrations with
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden as a candidate was this idea that the
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Republican Party was going to have some kind of epiphany
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: And it was never totally clear if that was Joe
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Biden saying what he believed to be true or what
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden felt was important for him to represent as
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: a candidate who genuinely wants to bring the country together
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: and turn down the heat in our politics.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: I'd always felt like it was a little bit of both.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: But it does seem as though he's woken up a
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: little bit to exactly what this reality is. And especially
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: in the last few months, I think, again, because we
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: have uh, feckless national press. And because we have a
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: right-wing propaganda machine and because we have social media, the
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: fact of what's going on, which is that the Republican
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: party is the world's largest and most dangerous hate group, uh,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: is becoming more clear, even though there are a lot
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: of entities and institutions that aren't willing to say it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Alyssa, when do you think, um, Joe Biden finally had
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: the epiphany that Joe Biden was wrong about the epiphany and, uh,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Why do you think he's hitting this message now?
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Do you think that he realized the fever wasn't going
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: to break?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Now, Obama used to say that. And look, I mean,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I think why Obama, I know why Obama said that
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and probably why Biden thought that, is not that like
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Republicans would suddenly be like, oh, I see the light now.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: They thought that maybe they'd get their ass kicked electorally
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: because they took these extreme positions and would be punished
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: for them. And because of the way our system is,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: because of gerrymandering, because of the way the Senate is, because,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: you know, That has not happened yet.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: No, and I think, too, that, like, even he has
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: to realize they don't just hate Democrats. They hate people.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, they hate all people. They're not.
• 38:03
  Speaker 13: It's like.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: It's like Republicans aren't protecting themselves. They're protecting a subset
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: of the people who support them at the farthest edge, right?
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: And so this is.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: just the mere fact that abortion is supported by 69%
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: of Americans, not Democrats, but Americans. And so I think
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: now Biden has realized they will just do anything. They
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: will say anything. They will take Madison Cawthorn out. I mean,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: they'll do anything. And so I think he realizes if
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: they will do anything to themselves, to the American people,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: he is not going to find common cause with them
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: at any point. And it's really time to stop trying
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: because at a certain point, it does start to feel
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: a little ridiculous.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: I do think for Biden, two things, and this is
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: also why Obama talked about the fear of breaking is
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: in the course of a campaign, you have to articulate
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: how you're possibly going to get something.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Done in divided government.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: And I do think Biden is more nostalgic than naive.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: Like you guys are like, put yourself back in the
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: foot of that campaign.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Like the leader of.
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: This Republican party is, tried to extort a U.S. ally
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: to dig up dirt on his son, and then the
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: entire party, even his friends like Lindsey Graham, stood by
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: that president as they did it, right? And so I think,
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: and even in his governing, like he has, mostly tried
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: to move within Democrats only. Like he did have a
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: very significant, you know, he got to his credit, got
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: 19 Republicans, including Mitch McConnell to vote for a big
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: infrastructure bill. But this is, I think moving away from
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: the nostalgia and getting into campaign mode.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Right. Do you think that, um, hitting Republicans for their
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: extremism will be an effective midterm message for Biden? Yes.
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: Like for all of the cable news, Twitter hand-wringing about
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: whether Democrats have overreached or gone too far left or
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: misread our mandate, this Republican Party has adopted the most radical,
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: most extreme, most unpopular agenda in the history of American politics.
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: Look at everything on their agenda that we talked about there, right?
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: Overturning Roe v. Wade, opposed by 70% of voters. The
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: Law that Ron DeSantis passed to punish Disney, opposed by
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: 60% of voters. Laws banning books, opposed by 80% of voters.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: Like across all the stuff that Rick Scott talked about,
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: opposed by huge majorities.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: You're saying people don't want to raise taxes on retirees
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: with no income?
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: I'm saying people don't want to raise taxes on retirees.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: They don't want to ban books. They don't want the
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: government to decide health care choices. They don't want the
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: government to decide what sports trans athletes can participate in.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: They do not want that. That's 80% of opposition to that.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: And so it would be political malpractice for us not
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: to make that a centerpiece election because right now the
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: polls are very clear that the American people prefer, by
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: about four points, Republicans controlling Congress over Democrats.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: But that is putting the generic in generic ballot because.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: The Republicans are a nameless, faceless alternative to the Democrats
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: they're mad at because of inflation or COVID or gas
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: prices or lack of progress in Washington. And so if
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: we're going to have any chance in this election, we
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: have to center that agenda. We have to raise the
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: salience of what the Republicans are trying to do. We
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: have to define who they are. And I think extremism
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: is the right way to do it. Now, I think
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: there is a very legitimate conversation. Biden has used the
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: term MAGA extremist on multiple occasions. Like, is MAGA the
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: right term to do that?
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Now, I think that's more research.
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: I will say I have seen some research that shows
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: that the term MAGA is better known and more evocative
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: than I would have assumed. that it means something to
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: the voters that we have lost, either because they have
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: gone back to the Republican side or they've disengaged with
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: politics since 2020. It speaks to a Republican extremism that
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: is bigger than Trump. It's not just about the man Trump,
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: it's the change in the party. And so I think
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: there's the forming of a message here.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I was struck by how many times he said the
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: word MAGA in that speech, which he doesn't usually say.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: And then he said MAGA is extreme. He kept calling
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: it the ultra MAGA agenda. Like these are not some
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: things that like, Biden just says off the cuff, like
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: you could tell that that was something that they really planned.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know when Biden speaks off the cuff, a
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: bird flies out of his mouth. No, I was struck
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: by it too. When I saw him say MAGA extremism,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: MAGA agenda, I was like, oh, that's polling. And it
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: really is an interesting way. It is because we've talked
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: a lot, like how much do you make Trump the
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: centerpiece of this agenda? We've seen where that can work.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: We've seen where it can fail. And maybe it is
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: the perfect way to kind of bridge the divide, to
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: remind people of the extremism, the Trump era. Well, but
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: making it a brand that tags Republicans more broadly.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: It's interesting.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we have now played a clip of
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of Republicans saying a whole bunch of
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: extreme things tonight. We didn't have to use Trump once.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: And it was very evident from everything that various Republican
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: officials across the country have said just how extreme and
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: dangerous their agenda is. And you actually don't have to
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: center Trump in that, but he sort of looms large
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: over it as the direction that that party has taken.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: The story.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: as told by sort of the press and the pundits
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: is that Trump radicalized Republican party.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: That's backwards.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: It's the Republican party is so radical that they would
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: pick someone like Donald Trump to be their leader. He
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: is the caboose, not the engine of this fucking problem.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think part of the, I think part
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: of the challenge, I think part of the challenge we
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: faced in 2020 and Joe Biden had to run this
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: campaign was that, you know, Donald Trump is a different
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: kind of Republican. And so it was a message to Republicans. Hey,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: your party is your party. but this guy has taken
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: over your party and he's extreme. And I think that
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: worked on the presidential level. Clearly it worked because Joe
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Biden won. But I think when you look at the
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: House level and the Senate level, like it may have
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: hurt us, hurt Democrats on that level because some people
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: could say, all right, I'm going to vote for Joe
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Biden for president, but I'll vote for my Republican congressperson
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: because they're different than Trump. Trump's much crazier than them.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: And I think the case that we have to make
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: in 2022, which has been made by all of the
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: comments that we just played, is that no, no, no.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: The vast majority of that party now, particularly the Republican
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: politicians in Washington and in state houses across the country,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: are just as bad as Trump, if not worse.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: And I do think Trump is the caboose. Trump learned
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: what was happening and took advantage of it. He has
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: that kind of feral wisdom and that ability to understand
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: where people are and listen and kind of adjust. But
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: he also showed them a winning formula. I mean, they
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: had lost.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: They had lost presidential elections. They had lost the popular vote.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: And he showed them a path for generating real enthusiasm
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: that they could use to win in places where they
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: were not winning. And if we have a hope of
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: getting out of this cycle where we feel like every election,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: we either win or we lose our democracy, the only
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: hope is demonstrating not just that we can win an election,
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: but that this is a losing formula. Because if one
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: thing had gone different in 2016, if James Comey had
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: been three inches shorter and had some fucking.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Humility, then.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: You know, they'd be having the same kind of conversation
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: they had over 2012. How do we appeal to a
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: broader part of the country? How do we change? How
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: do we adjust? How do we grow with the country
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: instead of trying to appeal to a more and more
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: radicalized minority in the country to retain power at all costs?
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: When we come back, Alyssa and Dan will interview your congresswoman,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Cori Bush.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Please welcome to the stage Congresswoman Cori Bush.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Let me see.
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 46:02
  Speaker 13: It's always about St.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Louis.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Congresswoman, hello.
• 46:05
  Speaker 13: Hello.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Hi.
• 46:06
  Speaker 13: I love you.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the biggest news of the week.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: It's like, if you're talking about Roe, you're just such
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: a fucking downer this week. But we're going to be
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: a downer for a minute.
• 46:21
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: The leaked Supreme Court majority ruling, which indicates that the
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: court is poised to overturn Roe. Now, let's just be honest.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Reproductive rights activists have been warning about this for not weeks,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: not months, but years.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 46:40
  Speaker 13: However.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Reading it, when you first read the draft opinion, can
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: you tell us what you thought? Did you think they
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: would go as far as they did?
• 46:49
  Speaker 16: So, first of all, when I first saw it, I
• 46:52
  Speaker 16: saw it on social media, and I just couldn't believe it.
• 46:58
  Speaker 16: I didn't want it to be real, even though we've
• 47:00
  Speaker 16: known for such a long time, because we've done this
• 47:02
  Speaker 16: work for a long time, that this could come. And
• 47:05
  Speaker 16: we saw the signs, and we saw things moving, people
• 47:09
  Speaker 16: getting into positions.
• 47:12
  Speaker 13: But when I saw that draft opinion, I didn't believe it.
• 47:15
  Speaker 16: And so I reached out to my team and I,
• 47:16
  Speaker 16: you know, and I asked them like, please like check
• 47:19
  Speaker 16: on this, like see if this is real.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 47:21
  Speaker 13: And then once we, they said, yeah, you know, this
• 47:24
  Speaker 13: is real reading that.
• 47:29
  Speaker 16: Let me just say it was really intrusive to my
• 47:33
  Speaker 16: being because it was, because it was like, it was
• 47:41
  Speaker 16: like someone coming in, taking over me.
• 47:43
  Speaker 13: Like, how dare you come and.
• 47:45
  Speaker 16: Take over me and who I, and so, um, you know,
• 47:49
  Speaker 16: so it was very disturbing. And with Missouri being one
• 47:52
  Speaker 16: of those States, one of the, at least 13 States
• 47:54
  Speaker 16: that has the trigger ban, um, knowing that immediately if, um,
• 48:00
  Speaker 16: when this draft opinion is written, what will happen to
• 48:04
  Speaker 16: us and so many other States, um, I was mortified.
• 48:09
  Speaker 13: But you know what? I was mortified enough into action.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:12
  Speaker 16: You know, pissed off into action.
• 48:14
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: You have talked about the abortion you had as a teenager.
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: You testified before Congress.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: You did. What compelled you to share your story?
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: So, I.
• 48:34
  Speaker 13: Had never.
• 48:36
  Speaker 16: shared the story before. I hadn't thought about it since
• 48:40
  Speaker 16: it happened. It happened and I just, you know, pushed
• 48:44
  Speaker 16: it off and tried to move on with my life.
• 48:47
  Speaker 16: And so when SB8, the Texas bill was coming about
• 48:54
  Speaker 16: and we were told like, oh, this is happening. I
• 48:57
  Speaker 16: didn't know what else to do. And so for me,
• 48:59
  Speaker 16: you know, it's like, use what you got.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 49:02
  Speaker 16: And I just, um, and so I said, okay, well,
• 49:04
  Speaker 16: you know what, I'm going to use this moment to
• 49:07
  Speaker 16: talk about my story because it's the person that I've
• 49:09
  Speaker 16: always been is I'm okay being vulnerable about my, about
• 49:13
  Speaker 16: my ish, like talking about my stuff. if it'll help
• 49:17
  Speaker 16: somebody else and use what you got to help people.
• 49:22
  Speaker 16: And when I went forward, it wasn't until I sat
• 49:26
  Speaker 16: down and told the story to the media that I
• 49:30
  Speaker 16: realized that it was a sexual assault because I had
• 49:33
  Speaker 16: never replayed it. And so sitting and telling that story,
• 49:37
  Speaker 16: the House Oversight Committee, I was broken and nervous and
• 49:47
  Speaker 16: afraid of the attacks that would happen because of that.
• 49:52
  Speaker 16: But whatever they can do to me, like send it,
• 49:56
  Speaker 16: bring it on, because if I can take it to
• 49:58
  Speaker 16: keep other folks from having to go through what I
• 50:01
  Speaker 16: went through, then go ahead.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Did you find the response was mostly positive?
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 50:08
  Speaker 13: The response, I love you. The response was overwhelming. It
• 50:16
  Speaker 13: was positive.
• 50:18
  Speaker 16: And I started having people walking up to me on
• 50:20
  Speaker 16: the street, just walking up to me just in tears
• 50:24
  Speaker 16: like that I had never met before that would just
• 50:25
  Speaker 16: embrace me and say, thank you for telling your story
• 50:28
  Speaker 16: because you told my story.
• 50:30
  Speaker 13: Right. Just the other day, we had a rally here
• 50:32
  Speaker 13: in St.
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: Louis.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
• 50:35
  Speaker 13: At the federal building.
• 50:38
  Speaker 16: And afterwards, so many people came up to me just weeping, saying,
• 50:44
  Speaker 16: you told your story, and now I feel like I
• 50:46
  Speaker 16: can tell mine. Because you don't have to tell your story.
• 50:49
  Speaker 16: And the thing is, we shouldn't have to live out
• 50:51
  Speaker 16: our trauma to be able to make change.
• 50:53
  Speaker 13: We shouldn't have to do that. But people are.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: And the more people talk about it, the more you realize...
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: That it's your friend. It's your mother.
• 51:04
  Speaker 11: It is.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: It's your sister. It's your friend. It is so many
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: people in your life who have been impacted by it.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: And that we shouldn't be ashamed.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: No.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: And we shouldn't, you know, there shouldn't be, like the
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: activists who were out earlier saying, euphemisms. You know, it's
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: a fucking abortion.
• 51:19
  Speaker 13: Yeah. Okay, I'll say it.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: You don't have to.
• 51:23
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 51:23
  Speaker 13: And it's one in four.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: One in four.
• 51:25
  Speaker 13: One in four.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: And so... Exactly.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: We're not asking you to clap, but let me just
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: say it. But so here's... I feel a little bit
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: like in the past week, you know, regardless of the
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: fact that this draft was leaked, we knew it was coming.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: The decision was coming in June or July.
• 51:43
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: And personally, I feel like people are acting a little
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: caught flat-footed, like, oh, we didn't know this was coming,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: yet we all knew it was coming.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: So what would you like to see Congress and the
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Biden administration do in response to this pending ruling?
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Sure. So.
• 52:00
  Speaker 16: The House, we passed the Women's Health Protection Act. We
• 52:09
  Speaker 16: sent it to the Senate. It failed in the Senate.
• 52:11
  Speaker 16: We have to codify Roe v.
• 52:13
  Speaker 13: Wade. We have to do that.
• 52:15
  Speaker 16: And so we understand in order to do that, that
• 52:21
  Speaker 16: abolishing the filibuster has to happen.
• 52:24
  Speaker 13: And it has to happen.
• 52:29
  Speaker 16: And and I feel like this this I understand that
• 52:33
  Speaker 16: it is complex and I understand that there that people
• 52:37
  Speaker 16: feel like sometimes people will say, well, hey, if we
• 52:39
  Speaker 16: do that, then, you know, we'll empower, you know, the
• 52:42
  Speaker 16: Republicans to retaliate and do something to us.
• 52:45
  Speaker 13: So like, let's not touch that.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: But they are.
• 52:47
  Speaker 13: But they've been doing it. They've been doing it. They've
• 52:50
  Speaker 13: been doing it.
• 52:51
  Speaker 16: And so, no, what we have to do is we
• 52:53
  Speaker 16: have to protect our constitutional rights right now. We still
• 52:56
  Speaker 16: have abortion right now. You can still go out and
• 52:58
  Speaker 16: get an abortion. You can still make an appointment. And
• 53:00
  Speaker 16: so we have to protect that. And so so whether
• 53:03
  Speaker 16: it's a carve out of the filibuster, but also we
• 53:08
  Speaker 16: need to expand the courts.
• 53:10
  Speaker 13: We have to expand the courts.
• 53:13
  Speaker 16: We can't we can't rely on this this court right
• 53:17
  Speaker 16: now that is being that is this far right court
• 53:21
  Speaker 16: that that can if they're going after abortion right now.
• 53:26
  Speaker 13: What about marriage equality? Is that next? You know, what's next?
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, they made that pretty clear, right?
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: The based on the opinion sort of everything's on the table.
• 53:36
  Speaker 16: And so all of the stuff that we have, anything
• 53:39
  Speaker 16: that we can do, expend whatever political capital you have,
• 53:43
  Speaker 16: put yourself on the line, whatever we have to do
• 53:46
  Speaker 16: to keep this. This thing has been our constitutional right
• 53:49
  Speaker 16: for 49 years.
• 53:51
  Speaker 13: We have to do what we can.
• 53:52
  Speaker 16: And the other the other thing that bothers me about
• 53:55
  Speaker 16: this is Representative Barbara Lee in that same hearing. She
• 54:00
  Speaker 16: spoke her story and she spoke about back alley abortions.
• 54:04
  Speaker 16: And she talked about how prior to Roe v. Wade,
• 54:08
  Speaker 16: the leading cause of death for black women was sepsis
• 54:12
  Speaker 16: due to the back alley abortions. They want to send
• 54:16
  Speaker 16: us back there to where? And so that's why we fight.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: Speaking of fighting, you know, your path to Congress is unique.
• 54:30
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Before you came to Congress, you were a nurse. You
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: were a pastor. But also, most notably, I think you're
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: a Black Lives Matter activist.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: How, you know, how is the transition been to now
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: trying to push for change within the confines.
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: Of the system?
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:45
  Speaker 16: So I feel like everything that I've gone through, my journey,
• 54:50
  Speaker 16: it was the stepping stones or the building blocks to
• 54:53
  Speaker 16: be able to do what I'm doing now. I call myself,
• 54:56
  Speaker 16: and I coined the phrase, I'm a politivist. I didn't
• 54:59
  Speaker 16: take off my activist hat to do work in Congress.
• 55:02
  Speaker 16: There's a lot of activists out here in the audience
• 55:06
  Speaker 16: and folks listening because the activist is the one that's
• 55:11
  Speaker 16: going to push, that has that perseverance, that determination, that moxie,
• 55:16
  Speaker 16: and will do something alone even if they know that
• 55:21
  Speaker 16: they will take a tax and deal with a lot
• 55:24
  Speaker 16: of scrutiny. that politician is the one, they have the
• 55:27
  Speaker 16: power of the pen, the power of the purse. They
• 55:29
  Speaker 16: do the negotiations and make the deals. So marrying the two,
• 55:33
  Speaker 16: I feel is important.
• 55:34
  Speaker 13: And so being the activist, I learned that.
• 55:41
  Speaker 16: You have to continue to push if your message is
• 55:46
  Speaker 16: something that is, if transformational change is what you're seeking,
• 55:50
  Speaker 16: you got to continue to push. And so that's what
• 55:52
  Speaker 16: we do in Congress all the time. You know, when
• 55:54
  Speaker 16: they told me When I was told we couldn't get
• 55:58
  Speaker 16: the eviction moratorium extended back last August, I was like, oh, no,
• 56:03
  Speaker 16: it can't happen. The administration won't do it. The White
• 56:06
  Speaker 16: House won't do it.
• 56:07
  Speaker 13: The CDC. It's just over. Go home. Go on vacation.
• 56:10
  Speaker 13: It's done.
• 56:11
  Speaker 16: I couldn't understand that because I know what it's like
• 56:13
  Speaker 16: to sleep in the car with my two babies. And
• 56:15
  Speaker 16: I know I know what it's like to be unhoused.
• 56:17
  Speaker 16: And I know what it's like that I get to
• 56:19
  Speaker 16: go home every single day. And I know that there
• 56:21
  Speaker 16: are people right outside here in St. Louis that are
• 56:24
  Speaker 16: sleeping on the street right outside these doors. They are
• 56:27
  Speaker 16: out there right now. And I knew that we were
• 56:30
  Speaker 16: talking about 11 million people. I knew that we were
• 56:33
  Speaker 16: talking about 7,000 St.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Louisans.
• 56:35
  Speaker 16: There was no way that I could just go home.
• 56:37
  Speaker 16: And so I said, what do I have? Did folks
• 56:41
  Speaker 16: elect me to do the easy thing? Or did they
• 56:44
  Speaker 16: elect me to do the right thing? And so that's how,
• 56:47
  Speaker 16: that's that journey.
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: So I think a lot about you sleeping on the
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: steps to... push the administration and Congress to act on
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: the eviction ban.
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: And it worked.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: It worked. And before you did that, you were right.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: People were going home.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: It was over.
• 57:01
  Speaker 17: And so I'm curious about what lesson you took from
• 57:08
  Speaker 17: that as a way in which to enact political change
• 57:11
  Speaker 17: in this system.
• 57:12
  Speaker 16: You know, because they tell you, especially when you're a
• 57:15
  Speaker 16: freshman legislator, you won't get anything done.
• 57:18
  Speaker 13: You have to build relationships. It takes years and decades
• 57:21
  Speaker 13: to do all of these things.
• 57:23
  Speaker 16: You can't make moves. It taught me that they're wrong.
• 57:28
  Speaker 16: It taught me that will, determination, a love for your people.
• 57:35
  Speaker 16: It taught me that it's okay to be the activist
• 57:37
  Speaker 16: that won't back down. I'm that won't back down person now.
• 57:41
  Speaker 16: I know how to work with folks. But I feel
• 57:46
  Speaker 16: like we spend a lot of time working with folks
• 57:48
  Speaker 16: and then losing ourselves in the process. I didn't go
• 57:52
  Speaker 16: to Congress so that St. Louis can always be pushed
• 57:54
  Speaker 16: to the side. We've been through that. We've been through that.
• 57:57
  Speaker 16: So I'll keep pushing. And I'll say another lesson. Another
• 58:02
  Speaker 16: lesson is I learned it as a child. A closed
• 58:06
  Speaker 16: mouth will not get fed.
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: So the idea of defund the police is almost always
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: talked about with the right wing framing, right? And the
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: both because the right wing is such a powerful media machine,
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: but also aided and abetted by mainstream media. And I
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: think also it's fair to say a lot of Democrats
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: who use those sort of that framing and how they.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: Talk about it.
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: How would you talk about what you're trying to achieve
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: in a way that I think reaches out to the
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: broad swath of people who were very moved into action
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: in in the summer of 2020 after the murder of
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: George Floyd and Breonna Taylor and so many others.
• 58:43
  Speaker 13: Yes. So this is the thing.
• 58:46
  Speaker 16: What bothers me about the defund the police thing is
• 58:50
  Speaker 16: people are more upset with the word defund than they
• 58:53
  Speaker 16: are with the fact that black folks are killed disproportionately
• 58:57
  Speaker 16: in this country and it.
• 59:00
  Speaker 13: Happens with impunity.
• 59:01
  Speaker 16: They're more upset about the word because they'll tell me, Corey,
• 59:04
  Speaker 16: don't say defund, say reinvest.
• 59:07
  Speaker 13: Isn't it the same? Corey, East.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Moving money.
• 59:11
  Speaker 16: But you can defund Planned Parenthood, you can defund education
• 59:17
  Speaker 16: and all of those things and it's okay, nobody says anything.
• 59:23
  Speaker 13: And so.
• 59:24
  Speaker 16: I push back on that because because people are upset
• 59:28
  Speaker 16: about the slogan.
• 59:29
  Speaker 13: So I'm keep throwing it in your face.
• 59:30
  Speaker 16: The point is, you know, because those same folks aren't
• 59:35
  Speaker 16: doing anything to save lives. They're not doing anything to
• 59:37
  Speaker 16: save trans lives, save immigrant lives. They're not doing anything
• 59:41
  Speaker 16: to save black and brown lives. They're not doing any.
• 59:43
  Speaker 13: Of that work.
• 59:43
  Speaker 16: They're just fussing and they're just being, you know. But anyway,
• 59:47
  Speaker 16: so but this is the thing in twenty twenty one.
• 59:51
  Speaker 16: After the protests, George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and so many others,
• 59:57
  Speaker 16: there were 1,000, on record, 1,055 police killings in this country,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 16: more than any other year recorded. So after all of
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 16: the protests and after all of that, more killings happened.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 16: What we're saying is no killings should happen. And instead
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 16: of it growing, but... The thing about it is we
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 16: can't continue to do the same thing and expect a
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 16: different result. And so for me, when we know that
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 16: someone who has an encounter with police who is in
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 16: a mental health crisis, they have a 1 in 16
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 16: chance of being killed in that encounter. I'm a former
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 16: mental health nurse working in community mental health. Most of
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 16: my patients were uninsured or underinsured, unhoused, transient.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 13: Mental health.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 16: So someone suffering with bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, it is no
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 16: different than someone who has diabetes, high cholesterol, cancer, because
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 16: you treat it. The point is to treat it. And
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 16: so we don't show up. If I have diabetes, I'm
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 16: not going to go to the bank to go get
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 16: help for my diabetes. I'm going to go to the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 16: health center, you know. And so Why do we send
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 16: police on calls to do that work? And so what
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 16: we're saying is send out the folks who are skilled
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 16: to do that work.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 13: Let's pay the social workers. Let's pay the therapist to
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 13: go out.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 16: And I don't see how that's wrong. Like pay them
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 16: to do that. Because the other thing is this. If
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 16: we pay the folks who went to school to do
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 16: this work and have experience in it, then we'll have
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 16: better outcomes. Because the point is to save lives and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 16: the point is to get people whole. The point is
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 16: to connect people to resources and get them treatment. And
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 16: so that is the outcome of that. But the other
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 16: part is police then have the opportunity to do the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 16: stuff that they are trained and skilled to do. So
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 16: they're trained, they're skilled to do these things. Why not
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 16: have them do that? Because just here in St. Louis,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 16: there was like a cops and clinicians program. 2021, I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 16: believe it was something like 800 calls that the police
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 16: didn't have to go on that clinicians took care of.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 16: It saved 2,000 police hours. That's hours where they can
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 16: deal with the clearance rate. You know, so that's what
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 16: we're saying. And the other thing is this. I don't
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 16: believe that we should be spending money on MRAPs and
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 16: bear spray and rubber bullets.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 13: And tear gas.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 16: When we have folks that need Narcan, we have a
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 16: substance use situation that's not being addressed.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 13: We have our unhoused community members that need help.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 16: We need help and education. We need funding to go
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 16: into those places. And so this is not anti-police. This
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 16: is pro-saving lives.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Congresswoman, one of the things that I hear from activists
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: all the time is, no matter the issue, is the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: frustration at how slow things go. How do you keep
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: your faith? How do you think we keep up our
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: energy going into the long fight ahead?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 7: You know, I.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 16: Think about so many of the things that I've gone
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 16: through in my life, and I always have to come
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 16: back to the fact that I'm still here. And because
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 16: we are still here, that means that there is work
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 16: yet to do.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 13: There is hope. And that hope is us. That hope is.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 16: Because the thing is, nobody's going to come from somewhere
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 16: and do the work to save humanity. Nobody else is
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 16: going to save our planet. No one else is going
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 16: to do this work.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 7: It's us.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 16: The way that I stay motivated and I stay on
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 16: fire for the people because I am absolutely in love
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 16: with people and humanity. The way that I'm able to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 16: do that is remembering that There is yet something on
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 16: the inside of me that I can deliver to the
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 16: people because somebody did it for me.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 13: I am here. I am alive.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 16: After police assault that I went through, after domestic violence,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 16: almost being killed by a former.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 13: You know, yes.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 16: You know, after multiple sexual assaults, I'm still here to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 16: tell it. And I've been able to help other people.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 16: So that is the strength. Somebody help me. And so
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 16: somebody will help somebody else. And so knowing that everybody
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 16: under the sound of my voice right now has.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 13: Something to give.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 16: There is a mission. And it only stops if we
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 16: stop it. So we get ourselves together. We get the therapy.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 16: We need to be able to do the work. It's
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 16: okay to get your therapy. Get what you need. Take
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 16: care of yourself.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 13: Be whole. And let's win this.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: Congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us. It was
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: an inspiration.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: When we come back, we're going to play a game
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: with Jason Kander.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 9: And we're back.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: St.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Louis, a city like none other. We've been to almost
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: all of them and no one is doing it exactly
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: like you.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Prevail? Prevail?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: I heard this is disgusting.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Here to offer his perspective on the gateway to the West,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: your former Secretary of State, host of Majority 54, veteran,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: and hopefully someone who can explain what Prevel is, Jason Kander.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: Thank you to the two guys who stood. I really
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: appreciate it. I have no idea what Prevel is. I'm
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: from Kansas City, Missouri. I'm sorry.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: Jason, I did have a question for you before we start.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: What would you recommend to people as the best barbecue
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: in St.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: Louis? Thank you for this question, John. This is really important.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: I hope everybody's paying attention. The best barbecue in St.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 17: Louis.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: It's a little out of the way. What you do
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: is you get on I-70. It's good to meet like
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: a third of my Twitter followers. This is great. You
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: already know what's coming. I'm going to finish anyway. So
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: you get on I-70 and you drive west. And when
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: your car starts to pick up Kansas City radio stations,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: exit the highway and just get a bite anywhere. That
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: is the best barbecue in St.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 7: Louis.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: I would say every election cycle.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: It's great to be here.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: Every election cycle, there is a Will Jason Kander Run
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: Statewide Again movement, and he just burned it to the ground.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: He doesn't tell you what you want to hear. He
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: tells you what you need to hear.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: Would you all like to talk about the 1985 World Series?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: I don't either. We all remember that famous rivalry. Jason.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: They remember.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: You have a book coming out this summer.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: Yes, I do have a book. Thank you.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: You wrote a book.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: You think you're better than us?
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 11: I did.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: Can you just tell us a bit about what the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: book is about?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: I love all your questions so far. Let me just say.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: Was that not a hardball?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: No, that was. Thank you. Thank you very much for
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: the question. Yeah, I have a book coming out July 5th.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: It's called Invisible Storm, a soldier's memoir of politics and PTSD.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: It is the best thing I've ever written. I'm very
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: proud of it. It's frankly, it's the book that I
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: wish had been available to me to read like 12
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: years ago. I think it would have. You know, it's funny.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: Congresswoman Bush was just talking about therapy. And I was
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: joking with you all backstage. I felt like she was
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: introducing me, and I should just run out. But I waited.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: But you can get the book early, actually. If you
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: go to jasonkander.com slash launch team, you can join the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: launch team, pre-order the book, and you can get it early.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: So I hope you all do that. I'm going to
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: say that again. It's jasonkander.com slash launch team. Thanks for
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: asking me about the book. Oh, I should also add
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: that all of the royalties for me go to Veterans
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: Community Projects, Fight Against Veterans Suicide and Veterans Homelessness. And
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: I was just at the Veterans Community Project site here
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: in St. Louis today, and it is coming along. I
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: would encourage you to throw some coin at that as well, please.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: So, you know, we've been talking about this for this show.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: You know, we're heading into these midterms. We're facing this
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: extreme radicalized Republican Party. What do you think Democrats miss
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: about campaigning and winning in a place like Missouri in
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: the Midwest?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: I think that the biggest miss is when we see
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: pundits talking about the strategy exclusively as whether we should
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: be more toward the middle, more toward the left, as
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: if that's... I just don't believe that voters in a
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: place like Missouri have like a spreadsheet out and they're
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: going down and they're trying to figure out exactly where
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: the politician is on each thing. That's not how it works.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: The way it works is in the Midwest and the South,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: people care about four things for their family. They want
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: their family to be happy, to be healthy, to be safe,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: and to be nearby. And actually... all of what you could,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: no matter how progressive you are, no matter how moderate
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: you are on the left, the things that we stand for,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 5: they make those things more likely. Like my, my kids
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: are eight and one and we live in Kansas city
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: and I am already dreading the day when they potentially
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: go somewhere else for opportunity. And we have to decide like,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: do we want to be near our grandkids? Do we not?
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: And that's, that's what a lot of us. And for
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: those of you who are too young to get what
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about, I promise this is what your parents
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: are thinking about. All right. And, and so, Whatever it is,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: you know, we've talked a lot in this episode about Roe.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: Look at the nearby part of what I said, right? Like,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: how many parents right now are thinking, like, my daughter
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: may not want to live here and live near me.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: I may not be able to keep my family nearby.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: So we've got to take all the stuff we stand
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: for and just make it really clear that we want
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: to make it more likely your family can be happy, healthy, safe,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: and nearby. And I think what happens is when the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: leadership of the party is exclusively on the coast, it's
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: not that they're too liberal. That has nothing to do
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: with it. liberal, conservative, whatever, wherever you are within the left,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: it doesn't matter. What matters is, do you get that
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: we're worried about our kids leaving? You know, I sat
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: down with the mayor of Boston once and said this,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: and he said, yeah, we're the place your kids go.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, that's why people who sometimes
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: lead the party miss that.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: I feel like we don't, we don't talk enough about that.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: We talk about whether the economy on the whole is
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: growing or the economy on the whole is shrinking. But actually,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: cities across the country are in a kind of permanent
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: Renaissance and whole parts of the country are in a
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: kind of permanent recession.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: And we never look at that distinction.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: And, and it's, it's not just like folks leaving and
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: going like a city being in a Renaissance and then
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: people go to Chicago from here, they go to New
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: York or DC or whatever from here. It's, if you're
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: from like Cape Girardeau or, or from Warrensburg or whatever,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: then the people in that, in that place are worried
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: that you'll go to St. Louis or to Kansas city or,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: And so when we say things like I'm all for
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: the new green economy, for instance, like we have to
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: get there as fast as possible. But when we act
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: like it doesn't matter that people will have to change
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: jobs and get retrained, like it does matter because they're like,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: but this is my home. I want to stay here.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: So we have to talk about how do we make
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: it where you can stay in your home?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: So, Jason, we came here to give the people what
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: they want. Substantive political analysis with enough jokes and cursing
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: to prevent what scientists call, no thank you, I don't
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: care anymore. I'm just watching Selling Sunset and pretending the
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: news is a series on Roku TV I don't.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Have access to.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: Disease.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: But we also came here to learn and challenge ourselves.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: So it's now your turn to put us on the
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: spot and test our knowledge of your local customs, from
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: your fascinating cuisine to the Midwest branch of Arkham Asylum
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: that is the Missouri Republican Party.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: A true rogues gallery.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: So I hand the reins over to you, Jason, to
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: ask us questions in a little game we like to
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: call Missouri Loves Company.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: So Jason, take it away.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: I think just buzz in whenever you have the answer here. First,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: what sauce or condiment does St. Louis consume more of
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: than any other city in America by a truly, I'm
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: going to make a slight edit here, admirable margin?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: Is it ranch dressing?
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: It is not ranch dressing. Do you want me to
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: just give you the answer or should we go through this? No,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: we're going to guess it. We're going to guess it.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Is it like multiple choices?
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: It's barbecue sauce.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: I was going to say barbecue sauce.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: I would have said barbecue sauce because you have the
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: enthusiasm and neediness of a sweet sauce culture.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: See, I picked ranch because Jason just told me that St.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 6: Louis barbecue was mediocre.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I assume they're buying.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: That is not what he said.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: That is not what he said.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: Let me be clear.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: He said you could get better barbecue in Brooklyn, I thought.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: No, I did not say that. Dan. Dan. I may
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: not be running for office, but I've still got to
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: live in this place. Look, this is the best barbecue
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: in the world if you've never been to Kansas City.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: All right? I want to be clear.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: Everyone's like, do I clap for that?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't know. You don't know what to do
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: with me, St.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: Louis.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know what they said. Oh, sorry.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: Somebody shouted because they normally listen at home and they
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: don't realize they're surrounded by people.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, you think this.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: Oh, I see.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: What they shouted, as if at the television... For getting
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: there in a theater, like a play, like we're Hamilton.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 6: Thank you, Nancy Pelosi.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Keep going.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: She said Kansas City barbecue is overrated. That's what she said.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: Where are you sitting? We're going to fight.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 8: Which.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: Which Missouri Republican blamed a left-wing attack on traditional masculinity
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: for more and more men, quote, withdrawing into the enclave
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: of idleness and pornography and video games?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Josh Hawley.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: Josh Hawley.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Fuck that guy.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Weird, not a lot of Josh Hawley fans.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: Here, I'm going to do two impressions at once.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, two impressions at once.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: This is two impressions at the exact same time. This
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: is an impression of Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos and Josh Hawley.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: Here it is.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Hello.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: Take me seriously.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: That was excellent.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: That was quite good. That was quite good. A factory
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: in downtown St. Louis has been churning out Tums tablets
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: for 92 years now. But the restaurants are churning out
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: greasy delights even faster now. It's an arms race that
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: can only lead to annihilation. How many Tums does the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: plant produce every year?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: 20 million.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: Any other guesses?
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: A million.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: Oddly, the answer is also Josh Hawley. I don't know.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: The answer is 6 billion.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: I feel like it's related to the condiment question. I'm
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: not sure.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: Love a Tum, you know?
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: I love Tums.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: Love Tums.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 13: Love Tums.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: Way to go.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: Possible sponsor. I don't know.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Now they are.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: Everybody is. That's how I operate. Meanwhile, the St. Louis
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: area was home to Robert Wadlow, the tallest man in
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: recorded history. How tall was he?
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Eight feet.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: Seven foot eleven.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, Plinko.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: We should do this like the price is right.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: One dollar.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: You're going to go 99 cents?
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go 710.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, that's smart with him going 711. Alyssa, you win.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: It's 8'11.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: Think about how bad a decision he would have made
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: as Attorney General.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Or whatever.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: FBI?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: I got it.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: I'm going to fix it for the edit. Think about
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: how bad a decision he would have made as FBI Director.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Fix it in post.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: That's beautiful. Which Missouri Republican, these are just depressing, said
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: the following about gay people in an interview with a
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: Baptist magazine? Everyone's like, you've got to read the quote
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: because there's a lot of choices. One of the things
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: that's always difficult in today's time is the homosexual issue
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: or with those type of issues that come up. I'm
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 5: old school. I know how I believe. I know what's
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: going to happen to these people.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: It's... He's old school.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: Well, they're all old school.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: The new school is quite frightening.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not Roy Vaughn.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: Todd Akin?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: No. Lesser known.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, lesser known.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: Actually, a very congenial, easy-to-get-along-with guy in person.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: No, I said that.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: Governor Mike Parson. Oh, wow. Wall, Missouri's lieutenant governor in 2017.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 12: Wow.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: Wow, it's always the ones you least suspect and whose
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: names you don't remember.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: Sorry, Mike, if I'm making you famous. I didn't, you know, sorry.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: Last year, Missouri Governor Mike Parsons threatened to prosecute a
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: journalist at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch for, quote, hacking a
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: state-run website. What did the journalist actually do?
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: Google?
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: You're getting, you're getting, you're pretty close.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: The You're not going to guess it. I'll give it
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: to you.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: Please do.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: They noticed that the website's unencrypted source code had exposed
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: the social security numbers of more than 100,000 teachers, school administrators,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: and counselors.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, so I was close.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: They just Googled.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: You were pretty there. Thank you so much.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 5: I think if I had a bell, ding, like you
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: got it.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: Which of the following was not introduced to the nation
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: at the 1904 World's Fair in St.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Louis?
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: Don't help them. The ice cream cone, Dr.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Pepper.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: Bugles under their original name of Stanley McCloud's corn horns
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: or peanut butter?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: 1904.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: I think it's got to be peanut butter.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Peanut butter.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: Ice cream cone.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: Bugles.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Oh. I thought that was just a bit clever. You
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: know what?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: I did too.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: I could tell. That's a joke. That's a joke. Corn horn.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: And also they were never called Stanley McCloud's corn horns.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: That's a joke.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: Somebody got us.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: Hallie got us. Hallie got us.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Hallie got us.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: Good job, Hallie. We got Kiefer.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: All right, your last one. Here we go. Last weekend,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: Josh Hawley went to a conference for guys in Springfield.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's guys in Springfield. Let me read
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: this differently. Last weekend, Josh Hawley went to a conference
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: for guys in Springfield. I don't want to, like, tar
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: all guys in Springfield. You know, it's a lovely place.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: In Springfield, there was a conference for guys.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know. I mean, punctuation and inflection.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: I want to be clear. It was written correctly. This
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: is on me. It was hosted by the conservative James
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: River Church called Stronger Men's Conference. Which of these did
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: not take place at the men's conference? A monster truck
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: rally or bronco riding?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Monster truck rally.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: I think bronco riding. I'm going to say bronco riding.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: Trick question. They did both.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 9: Kiefer again.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: Wow, we got Kiefer.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: Jason, thank you so much for educating us today on
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: so many topics. One more time, where can people get
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: the book and how can they support what you're doing
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: with veterans here in Missouri?
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: Thank you very much. You can support Veterans Community Project,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: which we are currently building one of our campuses. It'll
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: be a 50-unit tiny house village with wraparound services, an
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: outreach center, and a community center. You can go to vcp.org,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: like veteranscommunityproject.org, vcp.org. You can get the book, Invisible Storm,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 5: A Soldier's Memoir of Politics, and PTSD wherever you buy
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: Dan's books. Thank you. Also, I have a little show.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: It's called Majority 54. Thanks so much. Thank you all
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: for coming to St.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Louis.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Jason Kander.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: That's our show for tonight, St. Louis. Thank you to
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: Jason Kander. Thank you to Congresswoman Cori Bush. Thank you
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: to Alyssa Mastromonaco. Thank you to Michelle and Jess from
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: the Missouri Abortion Fund. And go to votesaveamerica.com to get
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: involved right now. Thanks, St. Louis. We'll see you later.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: And I like the pizza. I like the pizza. Of
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: course I love it.
• 1:22:22
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• 1:22:25
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