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Will the THUNDER finish off the PACERS in the NBA FINALS? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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This is the Jabba and the Mouth show.
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Jabba and the mouth Speedy. You love the dance music, don't
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you? Every generation.
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I might have to prepare for it if I have to go out with Frank.
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Hey, listen, we we cannot wait for you to go out.
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With Jabba, was very excited for that, I could tell.
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If you if you missed the interview, Frank is giving
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Speedy a full night nice bar tab an extra ticket to go to the
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Stone Pony for their concert series this summer in the Jersey
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Shore. Frank Barton's over there.
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He's for Jersey Shore Guy and Speedy.
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We could get you a date very easily or you.
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Could that is the dream for? Nathan.
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Hey, look, it's not about Nathan right here, Nathan.
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Nathan just wants to be this ultimate wig man.
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Look, the two of you guys as wingman, like Nathan as your
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wingman, I mean, arguably would be the greatest thing I I've
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ever seen in my entire life. And I would love to be a family
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on the wall for that. I really would.
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All the Lisa's gin and tonic, chicken Curry blow pops.
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I mean, it's all the Nathan specialties.
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Well, either way, you're not getting out of this Speedy I, I
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mean, Errol's going to be ecstatic about this.
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I don't know different seems like.
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But nice lady, a nice significant other for you,
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Speedy. I think it's something that you
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know that you're ready for. I think the world, all your fans
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out there, all the job and the mouth fans we're we need Speedy
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to find and misses Speedy. That's that's what we need.
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And I think it's time, Speedy. I think everyone's there to give
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you this support right now and I think you should use it,
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especially coming from such an illustrious guest giving you
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such a nice deal. And then Jabba said he would pay
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for your hotel room. So all you have to do, you don't
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have to pay for any drinks, You don't have to pay for the room.
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You just got to get there and spit your game.
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Speedy, what? What would that sound like?
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I'm just a little serious. I have no idea.
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Tommy. Tommy, turn your camera on for a
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second. Come on in here.
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Thank you, Jamie Lee. All right, there I am.
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Tommy, what do you think Speedy's game would so pretend
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like we're we're going out. We're at the Stone Pony.
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We see, you know, we're at the bar.
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We get, you know, the nice bar Tab.
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Frank's there. He gave it.
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He gave us the connection. And now there's a Bachelorette
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party there. They're there, Speedy, and
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everybody knows what it means when there's a Bachelorette
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party. They're ready to party in more
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ways than one. It's almost like it's kind of
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easy there, if anything, you know, especially with a couple
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of drinks in your system. Come on.
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Speedy. Well, we know.
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Look speedy as we saw in the Tic Tac.
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No graphic. Excellent dancer.
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I was about to say it has to have some a little bit of
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alcohol in the system and he has to get the moves going.
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I think once he gets the moves. Going it's his kind of music at
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the Stone Pony. It's your kind of music that
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they play over there in the Jersey Shore.
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That's that's Asbury Park. That's Bruce Springsteen's
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stomping grounds right there. That's the place we're talking
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about, right? So it's going to be it's going
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to be rock music's probably speedy is my guess.
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I think this is like, you know, we're just checking off boxes
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here is what I see. And I and I think, you know, at
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some point we're just going to have to do this as a as a
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segment that we film live And, and I think our fans are just
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going to root for you because I know we all root for you and
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we're there to help you as teammates as well.
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So I, I don't know Tommy, it, can you give me like what you
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think Speedy's game would sound like in that scenario?
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Well, if we're talking Speedy, like we said that he has a
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couple of drinks in his system. Whatever you whatever fancies
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your pickle at the moment. You have a couple of drinks in
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your system. Speedy, let me ask you
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something. Are you good at gyrating your
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hips? Like can you?
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Can you do a? Little.
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Can you like do a little swerve? No, because if you like, I'm
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just saying you were doing some pretty good dance moves there.
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You know, even when fish you remember Jake.
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Bring the Tic Tac no back so we can watch Speedy dance again.
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Fish, we remember the Hit Me with Your Best Shot, Speedy
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dancing over there in New Orleans with that, we remember
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exactly how that's true. How the fish do have more video
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of speedy dancing I forgot I have.
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Video of Speedy. Dancing.
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That'll be up for next Tic tac? No actually.
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Or next episode or whatnot. But speedy, if you gyrate your
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hips and you do it and you kind of got a little bit going right
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there. I've seen it like there, but if
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you. Just just peek out the the the
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blonde cougar behind him. That's just like, hey, yeah,
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clapping it up for him. Speedy, you didn't even see this
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woman. She was all about it.
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She was all I'm sure she was. I don't even think Errol saw her
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because I think Errol would have definitely like try to make
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something. He would have had her gravitate
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toward her. You know exactly what Errol did.
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The guy came down with a microphone and said who wants to
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sing? And Errol took the microphone
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out of his hand and proceeded to be a better DJ than he was.
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That's exactly what happened. And I'm sure that surprises 0
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people that listen to this show that that's what happened.
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And Errol was fantastic when he took the microphone.
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I think they tried to do him and his buddy.
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Was it Ray that was with us? Tried to do What's the rap song?
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The white boy rap song from the early 90s Jump around.
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I tried this thing, jump around and Ray forgot the words pretty
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quickly. Errol.
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Errol looked like he had done this at a party about 13,000
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times in his his life because let's face it, the man's DJs
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work. He you know, he worked like 3
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different functions before going on the cruise.
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That guy just works man. They had to peel him off away
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from jobs to get him on a cruise ship to relax.
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We hope you're having a good time if you're listening to us
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live. Hey man, enjoy your cruise
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that's delayed. Look out for those sharks.
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Yeah, there's a lot of sharks in that water.
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We know you don't like that water.
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It's called fasilophobia, right? Right, Zach?
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Something like that. I forgot Jurassic Park of a
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phobia. That's a little phobia.
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I was right. Phalasophobia.
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Phalasophobia. Jamie Lee, I was killing it that
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night. Kind of like so, so if you have
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phalasophobia, like Titanic's got to be like the scariest
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movie ever for you. I would imagine just sinking
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into that deep cold water. That wouldn't be great.
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I don't know. Arrow's going to be fine,
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though. That's that's that's a great,
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you know, safe cruise liner. I'm sure, I'm sure it's fine
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with the all you can drink inclusive.
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Oh wait, no, all you drink. Maybe if they had like some
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smoothies. Some strawberries in a while.
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Banana smoothies or whatnot. We used to go to Applebee's.
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Errol used to love some some strawberry banana smoothies.
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Just saying. Strawberry banana smoothie at
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Applebee's. Yep, I didn't even know they
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sold that until Errol asked, so there we go.
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I think one time he downed like about two of them, you know?
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Like, you know, not going to lie.
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He has a, He also has a really, like, my mom has this too.
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Like he doesn't get brain freeze.
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Like it's crazy how fast he could, like, drink really,
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really cold things. Yeah.
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I mean, there's an easy joke about not having a brain that we
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can do in there at some point. But brain freeze, brain freeze
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is something that I fight with every time with those types of
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things. So I stay away.
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But I'll never forget, I was on the Israeli Birthright trip and
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they I got to stay like an extra dozen days because you could,
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you could do that back then. I don't know if you could do
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that anymore. But we just me and my one
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friend, we just stayed in Tel Aviv and we were eating.
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You'd wake up in the morning, go to the beach and you would get
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these like smoothies, but they would be spiked with alcohol.
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So just imagine what you're describing, but spiked with
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alcohol. And like, you get these French
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fries, like these steak fries with hummus and like mushrooms
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and onions on top of them. It's just just so delicious.
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Like, I've never had that experience anywhere else in my
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life. But we did that like every
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morning. We were in Tel Aviv at like
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10:30 in the morning in January was like 80 degrees. 75° is a
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beautiful way to start the day. And I just want to give, you
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know, some prayers out there. It got all the conflict going on
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in the Middle East, especially real.
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So right now, stay safe out there.
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Everybody involved, literally everybody.
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Yeah, Especially Yeah, no. I'm just going to say
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especially, I know a couple of reporters that are actually out
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there covering certain things, so safety out for them as well.
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Yeah, it's been reporters targeted and things like that.
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So you know they're in the line of fire out there.
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Just a little update before we get into our next segment.
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It's 8779 OKC of eight going into the 4th does.
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Caliburn still have 0 points. I don't know.
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I know he really struggled in the first half.
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I'll pop open the stats. He's got two points on O of 6
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shooting. He's got 2 foul shots that he's
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made and four rebounds, 4 assists.
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Zero from the field, but two points from free throws.
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Not, I don't know how they win without him doing this, without
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him scoring. You never know in the fourth
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quarter the guy comes alive, but they're definitely up against
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it. But it's still only it's still a
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single digit game. So they've come back for more.
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We've seen it. It's still anyway going.
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Jake says that TJ McConnell's got 18 points.
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That's like the most annoying player in the NBA, TJ McConnell.
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But he's got to be. He picks you up full court and
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he's just finds a way to steal the inbounds pass.
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Like just do these like take two possessions for one pesky player
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in the corner. One of the most pesky guys I've
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ever seen. Yeah.
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Zach says you hate to play against him.
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You'd love to have him on your team.
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You absolutely would love to have that guy on your team.
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And it's not surprising like Rick Carlisle as that guy on his
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team, Rick Carlisle was that kind of player as well when he
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was way back in the day. And he's always had guys that
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were pesky, so and they play that way.
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So good for them. We'll see how that goes.
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We'll keep you guys updated on it.
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But before we do that, we got to talk about some basketball trade
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news. Oh, yeah.
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Desmond Bain on the move to Orlando The the Grizzlies trade
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Bane to the Magic for a massive haul.
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ESPN Shamshirani reports of the Grizzlies have traded Desmond
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Bane to the Magic for Kentavious Caldwell Pope Cole Anthony, four
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first round picks and one first round pick swap.
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The draft picks will be this year's number 16th overall pick.
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The big prize is the Suns first round pick next year. 2
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unprotected picks in 28 and 30 and the pick swap is in 2029.
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ESP NS Tim Bontemps reports that the Magic we're not interested
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in Kevin Durant at which we keep hearing not interested in Kevin
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Durant from literally every team in the league.
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We heard that from the Knicks earlier today.
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We heard it from another team that we were talking about an
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earlier segment. For some reason, nobody wants KD
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right now. Maybe it's all his burner
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accounts, but they didn't expect to be in the sweepstake for
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Giannis. This was the next available move
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to get Desmond Bain, according to the Magic source.
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He added that the Grizzlies are still expected to build around
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John Moranton, Jaron Jackson junior and will likely extend
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Jackson this offseason. Desmond Bain this year Average
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career highs 19.2 points per game 6.1 rebounds 5.3 assists a
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game shot 48.4 field goal percentage.
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I believe in the playoffs or actually I don't have the exact
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numbers for three-point percent for this year speedy, but his
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career is a 41% shooter from three and he was 47% from the
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field. I think this year was even
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better from three if I'm not mistaken.
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I think he was 39 from three this year.
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His peak year was 20/22. He was 42.8 I believe from. 3 So
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when we're talking guys that shoot around 40%, we're talking
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about the best shooters in the league.
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And Desmond Bain is one of the best shooting guards or shooters
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of that is a guard. I don't know if he's a point I I
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wouldn't. I would probably say he's a 2
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guard. He plays.
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Two guard mostly. But you know, he handles the
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ball really well for A2 guard. So you know, you can, he's not
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super tall. But listen, everything is a
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bucket for this guy. Catch and shoot.
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They say as a catch and shoot three.
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I think he had the highest percentage in the league,
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something like that, where he's the best catch and shoot three
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guy in the NBA right now with volume.
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So he's taking shots and he's making them.
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This is a guy that you want. And then on the other side of
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the court, huge two way player. He's one of the better.
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You know, it kind of reminds me of more like Mikhail Bridges
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defensively as a little bit more stocky, a lot more muscular of a
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player, but similar type of he's going to stay in front of you.
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You might not be the best defender in the league, but he's
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certainly going to stay in front of your guy and he's going to
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make your work. He's a two way player.
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He's a guy that anyone would want on their team.
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However, what price are teams going to pay for this?
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That 2026 pick, Speedy could be a top three pick.
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That Sun's pick, because we know the Suns are getting rid of KD.
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We know Bradley Beal is washed up beyond recognition and all
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they're going to have is Booker. So that is a lottery team.
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We've seen it already. That's nothing.
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They should rebuild around Booker.
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They should get rid of everybody else.
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They should try to bottom out, but they don't have that pick
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next year. So I don't think they're going
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to try to bottom out because why would you if you don't have the
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pick now? At the same time, is Desmond
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Bayne worth enough to give up what could be a franchise player
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in that draft, not to mention a whole bunch of other rotational
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pieces. Most people think Cole Anthony's
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decent rotational guard, you know this guy off the bench that
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you wouldn't mind being your backup point guard.
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Pope was signed to a nice contract before the season and
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then had one of the worst seasons of anybody that played
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in basketball this year coming away from Denver.
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So they tried to get off of that contract.
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And I heard that one of these picks, Speedy, was actually
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thrown in to sweeten the pot to take Caldwell Pope off of their
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hands. So that's why it's 5 total picks
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with the swap instead of just 4. But again, that's a lot to give
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up for a catch and shoot 3 and D guy.
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Now we saw the Knicks do it with Mikhail Bridges, right?
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Mikhail Bridges, I would say is a little bit more diverse
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offensively, but he wasn't this year, right?
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You would say that Bain, Bain had a 49 point game.
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In fact, you're going to see clips from it right now earlier
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this season. The guy's for real.
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He could he can really put it in the basket and he does all the
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little things right as well. Six rebounds, 5 assists.
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That's that's two guard numbers. That's what Halliburton's
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numbers look like. As far as outside of the
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assists, he does everything just as good as that guy.
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He's better defensively than Halliburton.
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Obviously it's not the passer Halliburton is, but if you
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needed a guy like this and what did the Magic need?
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They needed shooters. He's perfect for that team.
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Think about what they have. They got Paulo Bonschero, who's
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this young superstar in the making and when you and he
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drives to the lane, people give him attention.
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What do guys like that need people to kick out to What?
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Do they not have a guy like Desmond Bain?
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Now they have him, Is it enough? The East is wide open, Speedy.
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Do you think it's enough to get out of the East getting Bane?
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You have to get him to that Max potential that you're going to
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believe that he was the first round pick and he fell on the
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draft that year. He was supposed to be more like
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a mid first round pick as that three and D type guy.
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But again, is it enough when you have those other picks that you
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could have used to accumulate more depth?
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I was saying they just need a more of a backcourt.
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They have not developed him well with Cole Anthony, who I liked
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at the time. I thought he would be a better
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player than he's trying to be. Like he said, he's a serviceable
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backup but not much of a starter.
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Anthony Black was another one that was a first round pick that
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came from Arkansas. Very fast point guard, but not
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overly, not overly skilled overall as a shooter.
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So you're really looking at a lot of stretch fours on this
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team. Guys that can shoot with good
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size. Great defensive team like we
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discussed last year, but was not the offensive team that they
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needed. Bane is a great fit for them.
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I love the fit, but it's not the only player they need now.
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Maybe they're hoping that maybe other teams either overreact to
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trades or obviously the Celtics maybe not being as good without
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Tatum, but the Celtics are still a very good roster overall that
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probably we would still take over Orlando, Milwaukee, maybe
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they trade things, but the Knicks are still going to be
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there, the Cavs and the Pacers. So again, they needed a lot more
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than just the one player. We'll see.
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Maybe they do get a free agent. Maybe there's something up their
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sleeve. If that's the case, maybe it
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doesn't look as bad. But I think they needed those
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extra picks to make it work. Like you said, that Sun's pick I
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definitely could see being that high.
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I mean, that's a, that's a price, right?
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That Sun's pick surprise. I, I mean, we've keep hearing
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about the draft next year. We know the Boozer brothers will
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be involved in that draft. I was just going to mention
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them. We know AJ Dybansa is going to
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be, I don't know if I'm 100% sure he's pronouncing his name
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right, but that's the guy that I keep hearing is going to be the
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other guy in BYU. It's a loaded draft you gave up
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that for and a whole bunch else for a three and D guy.
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You better be right. You better be right or you're
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really mortgaging really your job as the general manager of
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this team. If you're wrong about this,
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you're fired. Yeah, and when the you brought
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up Bridges, when the Knicks traded for Bridges last year,
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you kind of thought of it. All right, They're a player or
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two away type thing. But Orlando is not thought of
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that way. They're two to three and a lot
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more things have to happen, right?
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Obviously, they have to stay healthy to start because again,
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Franz Wagner, for a big man like that, you hate to see that kind
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of thing for an injury for that type of versatile big man.
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Obviously, Ponchero was hurt for a while.
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A lot of their other draft picks have not developed as well as
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they should because of injuries either in their front court.
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But we knew that they needed the back court as a result.
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The problem is they weren't just that one piece where like the
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Knicks had it with Bridges. Then they end up getting talent
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later in the offseason, which I guess I was unexpected out of
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nowhere. Not completely, but enough.
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They're say, all right, the Knicks are an obvious
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championship contender now. Obviously they didn't, but they
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made the Eastern Conference finals.
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I don't think you're thinking that with Orlando right now,
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just on this move alone. If they do something else,
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maybe, but they're still not there yet.
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And maybe they're banking on the fact that they're not going to
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get a free agent. But why would you even sell your
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hand like that and be impulsive? Is France hurt?
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How? How hurt is France?
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Well, no, he's not hurt now. He, he, he was hurt during the
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season, though. He.
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Right, so they just had they just fought injuries this past
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year. But the thing that I was
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fascinated by, and maybe Jake, you can touch on this with the
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Magic, they decided to make Jalen Suggs their point guard
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for real and not just mess around with this, You know,
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maybe he'll play off ball and call Anthony.
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He'll play play point guard. They went with Suggs when he was
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on the court. They were really good team.
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When he got hurt and he wasn't out there, they were not a very
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good team. Do you think that with this
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edition that they are a top four team in the East next year?
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Because that's what they're asking, that's what they're
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saying they're doing, I would imagine by trading all these
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picks. Like, that's the last move,
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isn't it? Yeah, I think it's it's really
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interesting. I think it's really close.
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I mean, obviously now with, you know, Jason Tatum going down
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with Achilles injury, you figure they're out for this year.
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I mean, they'll probably still compete with Jaylen Brown, but
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you figure they're definitely not going to be the strongest
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team. So right now that probably
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leaves, you know, probably solidify top three being the
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Knicks, the Cavs and the Pacers. And then you kind of see who's
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that fourth team. And I think the Magic could
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probably fit in there right away because I don't really see too
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many other teams, you know, big up there and contending and the
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magic. And like you said, you know, I
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think they they put Jalen Suggs in there as their point guard.
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It worked out really well for them.
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And I guess they weren't really getting what they wanted of Cole
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Anthony. Similar with Markelle Fultz.
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They I think they were maybe more just looking for a backup
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roll up point guard. So if they add in someone like
20:00
Desmond Bayne, who we kind of just because he's like a hybrid
20:02
2 guard who can give you great on the defense on the other side
20:06
of the ball. And then, you know, maybe take
20:07
the pressure a little bit off of Paolo and Franz as well.
20:12
So I think it's a great move. For Orlando, although you are
20:16
right about that fish, you know that that draft pick from
20:18
Phoenix could be really valuable at this and it could bite them
20:21
in the ass if it doesn't go the right way.
20:23
So it it is a higher risk gamble.
20:26
But I think in the East, especially when you're not going
20:28
to have to deal with Boston for this year, it's absolutely the
20:30
right move to go for it. And then the other side of it
20:32
from Memphis, you still have John Moran and he is still a
20:35
young star who, you know, obviously got to figure out the
20:38
off the court issues. And then again, he has been
20:40
dealing with injuries here and there.
20:41
But you just think about how many teams in the West, I mean,
20:44
you look how close the Western Conference was down the stretch.
20:47
They only were like separated most teams by like a game or two
20:50
at the end of the season. So I think it makes perfect
20:53
sense for them to try to retool and figure they're probably not
20:55
going to be able to go for it. And how dense the West, I mean,
20:58
the West has always been battle tested conference and you have
21:02
teams all over the place who are, you know, willing to
21:05
compete and, you know, maybe they can try to build around JA
21:09
and Jaron Jackson. You know, obviously they got to
21:11
pay him. Of course, you know, I got to
21:12
give him his contract, you know, and I think he has earned it.
21:15
Obviously. I think he was, what was he
21:16
second or third and defensive player of the, I believe Evan
21:19
Mobley didn't come out with the with the.
21:21
Yeah, I think Jackson should have won it last year, too.
21:23
I think they gave it to Draymond Green.
21:24
Right. He did play, He played very
21:26
dominantly. And, you know, he's kind of been
21:27
the anchor for their defense, similar to a sense like a Rudy
21:31
Gobert, but it may be a little bit better of a score.
21:33
Yes. But yeah, I honestly, I think
21:36
it's a great move for both teams because, you know, the Grizzlies
21:38
can kind of, I guess, you know, re evaluate a little bit, see
21:41
what they have with John JJ and who they can put around them.
21:44
And then for Orlando, it's you know what, you might as well go
21:46
for it now with if you see that the Indiana Pacers were their
21:49
miracle run that they've had this year all the way to the
21:50
Finals. And then, you know, you only
21:52
really have to deal with the Knicks and the Cavs.
21:54
So if you have a Magic, you know, you might as well go for
21:56
it. So I think it's a great move for
21:57
them. Does make sense if you're the
21:59
Grizzlies, right? They got rid of their coach.
22:02
They it was clear that Bain was making the money that had to be
22:06
given to extensions to to Jackson and or Morantz,
22:09
depending on if they want to do that at all.
22:11
That's a whole nother story. Well, I'm sure it's something we
22:14
will talk about a lot this offseason is JA Morantz staying
22:17
in Memphis. They could say whatever they
22:19
want. They really can.
22:21
They could say we're going to build around JA.
22:23
OK, but if they get the number one pick, they look into it next
22:28
year by getting that, or maybe they get the number three pick.
22:33
There's four or five guys coming out next year's draft that can
22:36
easily be a franchise cornerstone.
22:38
John Moran wasn't number one pick.
22:40
He was #2 right, Doesn't have to be the number one guy.
22:44
And there's a bunch of guys that go later in the draft that
22:46
people do well. I mean, Bain was what?
22:49
25 No, he. Was in the top 10.
22:51
No, he was like 25. He was supposed to be like a
22:53
mid. First looking it up, Desmond
22:54
Bain went 30th. TCU I believe. 30th.
23:00
I think you could you could argue the fish looking back,
23:02
though, that even though JA was the second overall pick, looking
23:06
at how Zion has panned out with all his injury concerns and the
23:08
fact that he has clearly not, you know, been motivated to stay
23:12
in shape, the job probably is the the right choice for the
23:14
number one pick in hindsight, of course.
23:16
But you know, obviously he's got his off court issues and the
23:19
fact that he has dealt with injuries himself too.
23:21
But he's definitely, when he's healthy, he's been a fantastic
23:24
player, you know? I guess you would still take JA
23:27
today. Yeah, he kind of seems like a
23:29
little bit more of like a like a bouncier maybe even if you want
23:33
to say that like Derrick Rose from back in the day, like just,
23:37
I mean, maybe you wanted to work on his shot a little bit more.
23:39
We're not willing to say that RJ Barrett would be better than
23:42
either one of them, though. Yeah, no, I.
23:43
Don't think, I don't think that's happening.
23:45
Apparently he might be traded again.
23:48
Oh, is he now RJ? Good for RJ collecting those
23:51
checks. We loved him when he was in New
23:53
York. Sometimes he.
23:55
Had a couple good shots. Most people loved him.
23:57
That wasn't Julius Randall. Yeah, we didn't hear enough
24:01
about bad beef. I think RJ is just kind of a
24:04
weird dude. I think that might have just
24:06
been what it was. Zion.
24:08
I mean the stories with Zion, with the women and the the
24:12
videos and the. I didn't even mention that, but
24:15
you're right, it's he's getting way out there.
24:17
Bro he's he's, I mean he's only what is even 27 yet like.
24:22
He's, I don't think. So he's got to be.
24:24
I mean, he's should. Be 19 when he ran his.
24:26
Career and like, you know, he was, he definitely played
24:30
lighter last year. He's 24.
24:32
That's crazy. He's only. 22,000.
24:36
Wow, wow. So he's still young, right?
24:39
He's he's only three years older than me.
24:41
He's only. Two years old than me.
24:43
It's crazy. Can you imagine?
24:45
So I mean, look, you know, if you're in your early 20s and you
24:49
have millions of dollars, I guess you just find all the
24:51
people on Only Fans and have yourself a grand old time 'cause
24:54
that's certainly what Zion's been doing.
24:57
Maybe it's time for him to get on a team that wins, you know,
25:00
and start playing like he deserves this money.
25:03
It is kind of a shame New Orleans just can't put together
25:05
a product. It looked like for a couple
25:08
years ago, it looked like they were about to turn a corner and
25:10
it just went completely South so fast over there.
25:14
It's a shame. I thought when they when they
25:16
added CJ McConnell a couple years ago after Portland decided
25:20
to unload them, I thought he could have gave them like great
25:22
leadership and it looked like they were going to turn things
25:24
around. And of course, you know, with
25:25
Brandon Ingram as well as being cast off from the Lakers, even
25:28
when they had Lonzo before his tragic injuries went down, it
25:31
seemed like they were building a little bit of a core around
25:33
there. But it all it all put down the
25:35
Zion, and you know His. I have to ask you a question,
25:39
Jake. I got into an argument with
25:40
Errol months ago and Speedy knows exactly where.
25:42
I'm going. I'm going to say Brandon Ingram,
25:44
always favorite player. I know where you're going with
25:46
this. So Errol thinks Brandon Ingram
25:49
because again, number two overall pick, he thought he was,
25:53
you know, one of the great, the best players in the NBA.
25:55
And I was like, most analytical guys think he's terrible and
25:59
he's got a, you know, very low efficiency rating.
26:02
And I said I'd much rather have Mikhail Bridges than Brandon
26:07
Ingram. Now, you can say that Brandon
26:09
Ingram is a better scorer than Mikhail Bridges, but I don't
26:12
think he does anything else better.
26:15
And Errol disagreed with me. What do you think?
26:17
Now that the season's over for both of those guys?
26:19
Who you taking? You know, if it was early in
26:22
their careers, I think I probably still would have said
26:24
Brandon Ingram because I felt like the ceiling was probably
26:26
higher. But at this point in their
26:28
careers, obviously, I think it would take Mikhail Bridges just
26:30
because Mikhail does like he's, I think, like you said, Brandon
26:34
Ingram probably, you know, shot for shot score.
26:37
You probably would take Brandon Ingram.
26:39
But other than that, like Mikhail Bridges, I probably
26:41
would think he's a better defender.
26:42
I think he's probably a better facilitator at times.
26:45
You know, and Brandon Ingram, again, he he does that get
26:47
behind the ball a lot. But personally, I think I would
26:50
still stick with Mikhail Bridges because he's kind of like a glue
26:52
guy, honestly. Like, again, not not an All Star
26:55
player, but I think he's got that potential and he's been
26:57
like right on the cusp of it many times.
26:59
But you know, he's just had a lot of great teammates, you
27:01
know, Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, Jalen Brunson, guys
27:04
who've been, you know, better than him.
27:05
So he has, I don't think he's had that chance to shine.
27:07
But you know, when he was in Brooklyn for that one or two
27:10
years, we saw how great he was and that potential he had with
27:13
Cam Johnson and it's or Cam Thomas.
27:16
Excuse me. And you could clearly see that
27:18
the guy had the ability to be, I think an All Star level player.
27:22
But, you know, I think teams probably prefer him more as like
27:24
a six man or or, you know, a really good role player or even,
27:27
you know, the like the solid, you know, 3rd or 4th scorer on
27:32
the starting lineup. But yeah, personally, at this
27:34
point, I think you are right. I probably would go with Mikhail
27:36
Bridges. But, you know, I, I think also
27:38
Brandon Ingram kind of did get screwed over a little early in
27:40
his career, especially when, you know, LeBron came over to the
27:43
Lakers in. The middle LeBron moved to the
27:45
Lakers. LeBron.
27:47
The The infamous Lebron's gonna trade you.
27:53
You're you're seven of the GM LeBron soccer.
27:55
To chime in though, real quick on the whole Mikkel Bridges
27:58
versus Brandon Ingram debate, of course, the best, we always say
28:01
it all the time, the best ability is availability.
28:04
And of course Mikkel Bridges has not missed a single NBA game.
28:07
And if we're looking at the amount of games they've just
28:10
played, Brandon Ingram has played 495 games while after
28:15
while coming being in the league 20/16/2017 and McHale Bridges
28:19
being in the league 2018-2019 has played 556 games.
28:22
So that is quite the, quite the, quite the amount of games and
28:26
just not short amount of time that he's been because it's only
28:29
two years, two seasons ahead of him.
28:30
But I, I, I that can't go unnoticed though, like the
28:33
amount of time, the amount of availability that McHale Bridges
28:36
has is absolutely unmatched by anybody in the league.
28:38
So. Yeah, Tommy, even the one year I
28:41
think when he got traded from Phoenix to Brooklyn or it was.
28:44
He played every game. He.
28:45
Played. I think he actually got an extra
28:47
game somehow. Like he, I think he played 83
28:49
games, like he might have really played.
28:50
One more game. More than he was allowed, which
28:53
like, I didn't even know you could do because I thought
28:55
there's like, like minimum, but also the maximum where you're
28:58
not allowed to, you know, because of the, the signings and
29:00
you have to get, you know, medical clear.
29:02
But somehow he played an extra game.
29:03
And so like you said, he he's just healthy all the time.
29:06
He's always there and he's ready.
29:07
Yeah. He even played, yeah, he played
29:08
83 games in a season. You can do that.
29:11
We never think of that except with football because they're
29:13
traded and they don't get a buy weekend.
29:16
All right, the NBA Finals are back tonight in about 10
29:22
minutes. We'll have tip off in game five
29:25
in Oklahoma City. It is a Tide series at 2.
29:29
The Thunder one game four of the NBA Finals versus the Pacers 111
29:33
to 104, tying the series at 2. The Thunder came back from a 10
29:36
point deficit in the third quarter, down 86 to 76, and came
29:42
back all the way to win. The Thunder outscored the Pacers
29:44
35 to 18 since late in the third.
29:48
They didn't hit. The Pacers hit 03 pointers in
29:51
the fourth quarter. Thunder just made 33 pointers in
29:54
the entire game, the lowest total for any team in a playoff
29:57
win in the last 10 years since the Nuggets in 2019.
30:00
Shay Gildjus, Alexander, 35 points. 15 of those points came
30:04
in the last four minutes and 38 seconds of the game, the most in
30:09
NBA history. In NBA Finals game, Shay hit six
30:13
free throws down the stretch in the final 44 seconds.
30:16
Benedict Matheran missed three out of four free throws that
30:18
could have made it A1 possession game.
30:20
The Thunder are now 22 and 12 in games where they trailed by
30:23
double digits, the best record since the 9798 Bulls.
30:29
Wow, this this series is I just didn't want to give the Pacers
30:34
credit. I really couldn't.
30:36
I thought most of the games would go the way this game went.
30:39
The Pacers run out to Leeds because they have streaky teams
30:43
and then they get cold because they run this 7 seconds or less
30:47
offense that Mike D'Antoni wished he could have run as fast
30:50
as they run. But they're going up against a
30:53
team that has the MVP, Shay Gil, just Alexander is deadly from
30:58
inside. If you foul this guy, who's
31:00
going to hit foul shots at the end of the game.
31:02
He had six of them. And we have some highlights and
31:05
we'll show them to you in a little bit.
31:06
But they're not going to show you the last minute of the game
31:09
because it was just foul shot back and forth, foul shot back
31:12
and forth after Shay made sure that he took over and scored a
31:15
bunch of buckets in a row to get them the lead and then he
31:18
wouldn't allow them to to come back Here we have some of it and
31:21
guess what? It's all mid range.
31:23
It defies the analytics, Speedy. It defies the analytics.
31:27
Well, there's a couple of threes, but he's a great player.
31:32
He just dices guys up. Why aren't they sending two guys
31:34
at them? I'll tell you why.
31:36
Because he'll find the open man They can't.
31:38
He does it very differently than Brunson.
31:40
Brunson kind of comes off the angles a little bit more than
31:43
Shay. Shay's willing to do this with
31:44
his his handle and that's what's scary.
31:47
He can go either direction straight up on you at any point
31:50
in time. He's longer than Brunson, so he
31:53
can get his shot over more guys, even though Brunson always seems
31:56
to get it off with his turnarounds.
31:58
I, I just love watching this guy play.
32:01
I don't get to see a lot of them, you know, kind of out
32:03
West. I don't stay up late enough to
32:05
see all of it. I'm a teacher.
32:07
Look, guys, let's face it, you know, I wake up early.
32:09
It's, it's tough. I'll watch the highlights.
32:12
I watch most of the games that start at 7.
32:14
It's just 8:00. You know, for this time of the
32:17
year, it's real important that you that you give them proper
32:21
respect and shade. Jill, just Alexander, my God.
32:23
And I, I still think Yokich probably should have deserved
32:26
MVP. I just think Yokich is a one of
32:28
one and you just get sometimes just get tired of giving the
32:31
same guy the MVP. But he's doing stuff as a 2
32:34
guard that we haven't seen since guys like Kobe, since guys like
32:38
Jordan. I'm not calling him Kobe or
32:39
Jordan, but the way he's playing, very reminiscent
32:42
speedy. Yeah, again, it's something that
32:45
it's a well-rounded game that he has, like you said, he defies
32:48
the logic with not having to force threes, not having to rely
32:52
on threes like you see other point guards do.
32:54
And again, the mid range game, I always said it's fine if if it's
32:57
open, like obviously you don't want to like force shots.
32:59
You're not going to play ISO ball all the time.
33:01
But if the shots open, the shot is open, you you take it and the
33:05
Thunder have enough size to be able to compensate that with
33:07
either offensive rebounding or you try to make them guard it.
33:11
And then you can get more inside looks.
33:12
You might get more one-on-one match up where he is able to
33:14
drive to the hoop or he is able to drive to get free throws and
33:18
that's the type of guy that he is.
33:20
And the Thunder have a lot of players like that.
33:22
They don't have one way type of players that are just specialty
33:26
shooters or just specialty inside guys.
33:29
You got to balance a big man with Jalen Williams, who again
33:31
can be a three-point as a three-point shooter, kind of
33:34
streaky. But again, OKC didn't have to
33:36
rely on that because they only shot 16 threes.
33:38
They only made three of them. That wasn't the game plan,
33:40
obviously, but they have enough guys where they can play
33:43
different styles with everybody all at once.
33:46
And it was just a matter of time where their offensive depth
33:49
wasn't the same kind of liability like you saw in Game
33:51
three. Because the Pacers in Game 3
33:54
outscored the Thunder wings and guards off the bench
33:57
drastically. And that was the big difference
33:59
in Game 3 when the Pacers were able to run away with it in the
34:01
fourth quarter, the Pacers looked like they were doing that
34:04
again. And then the Thunder got some of
34:07
those guys to finally elevate their games off the bench and
34:10
didn't let them drastically have that type of rotation advantage
34:14
that they claim to have in game #3 and they have enough type of
34:19
defenders to play versatile type defense as well.
34:22
There's like we were talking about it in the preview, there's
34:25
no defensive liability on the on the OK C Thunder whatsoever.
34:29
And they finally played some matchups that worked against
34:32
being able to shut down Siakam at certain points in that game.
34:35
Halliburton was good but not amazing.
34:38
And that's the type of number one type hyper efficient defense
34:42
we've seen OKC play. They were talking about, I don't
34:46
know which writers it was, but OKC, if they win this title,
34:49
like one of the best defenses ever for a championship team.
34:52
And there's parts of this postseason where they haven't
34:55
played like it. Now, granted, I think most of
34:56
their duds have been more on offense, but it's still
34:59
sometimes where the Pacers who are not this like overly
35:02
talented team, yes, Keith, not this overly talented team.
35:06
I've exposed at certain instances because of coaching.
35:09
And now you're finally seeing that OKC Thunder defense that
35:12
you're expecting to see late in that game, late in the fourth
35:14
quarter when they only allowed eighteen points.
35:18
Yeah, I just, I think it's a little bit, it's a combination
35:21
of like a lot of things. But the one thing that I've seen
35:26
from Shay is, is his ability to get off the perimeter and get
35:34
mid range shots and be able to finish those.
35:38
And that's the one thing like when you see a championship team
35:42
and you see a young guy, and we've obviously seen a lot of
35:47
young kids going to try and win a championship the first time,
35:52
right? And we've talked about that.
35:53
Well, they're the 4th youngest team ever to make it this far,
35:57
and the Pacers are one of them too.
35:59
I think they're eighth all time, something like that.
36:01
But you see how he's able to get into the lane and, and not not
36:06
only create a shot, but also be able to do other things with the
36:11
basketball. And it's, and it's fun to see.
36:14
And I, I love the fact that we're at 22 right now with both
36:19
teams because there are defensive aspects on both sides,
36:23
as you said, from the wing play and, and how they can extend the
36:26
court speedy. But seeing, seeing these two
36:29
guys and do these things, it, it's been really, really fun to
36:33
see. And I'm excited for the rest of
36:37
this series to kind of see which of these stars step up and see
36:43
what they do. And it'll be fun.
36:46
It'll be fun. You know, what's fun is
36:50
realizing that my my beloved Knicks, they weren't so bad
36:55
stopping Pascal Siakam, because he isn't.
36:57
No one's stopping him. And I think we need to give him
37:00
a little bit of credit. He's got 20 points in this game,
37:03
if I'm not mistaken. I think he had five steals.
37:06
Yeah. So listen to this line from
37:08
Siakam. He had plus seven in a game that
37:11
they lost by 7. So keep that in mind.
37:13
Eight boards, 5 assists, 5 steals in a block.
37:17
He's doing that from the power forward position against being
37:20
guarded by either Chet or maybe they switch Hardenstein on to
37:24
him every once in a while. That's two pretty good defensive
37:27
players and he's still doing that.
37:30
I mean, that guy, he gave the Knicks everything they could
37:33
have. He won two games by himself in
37:36
that series, in my opinion, and they did give him the Eastern
37:39
Conference Finals MVP. Is it going to be enough?
37:43
Well, not if Oklahoma City has a game like they did in game four.
37:47
Listen to these free throw numbers.
37:49
Speedy Chet, 6 of 6 from the line.
37:52
Jaylen Williams, 11 of 11 from the line.
37:55
Shay Giljus Alexander, 9:50 from the line.
37:58
This is all in the same game. Hey, Jaylen Williams is is the
38:02
key to that too. 27 points, seven boards, 3 assists.
38:07
Don't forget your boy Alex Caruso.
38:09
And that's who I wanted to get to as well.
38:11
Caruso not not as a lead of a shooter.
38:13
He also put up 20 points, seven of nine from the field, hit one
38:16
of two threes, five of seven from the line.
38:19
I mean, the amount of they had, they were 34 of 38 from the free
38:23
throw line, shooting 89 1/2%. It's hard to beat a team that
38:29
does that, especially if you're behind at the end of the game.
38:32
This team has just been able to pull away from other teams all
38:35
year, all year. You look back all year why they
38:38
won so much. A lot of it has to do with just
38:41
simple things like free throw shooting and just doing what
38:44
you're supposed to do take make all your layups.
38:48
We don't see a ton of missed easy bunnies by this team.
38:52
This is what you want. Not like when you watch.
38:54
I mean, I don't want to give too much shade to Angel Reese, but
38:57
we know she likes to miss layups, even though she did just
39:00
have a triple double. Java's new shirt.
39:01
Good for her. Java's new shirt.
39:05
Do you have an Angel reshirt Java.
39:07
I will never have an. Angel No, no.
39:10
What did you say? You bought the shirt that mocked
39:12
her or whatever it was. Oh no, I got the me bounds.
39:16
I got that one. The me bounds yeah, do you see
39:18
that video speedy of her on TikTok saying like I don't know
39:21
who just said that, but I'll take all the me bounds we bounds
39:24
she bounds whatever give me all the bounds.
39:26
Like OK, that's an interesting way to I don't like how thin her
39:30
skin is with some of this stuff. She probably shouldn't be doing
39:33
it. But again, kids these days, 22
39:36
years old, 23, it's all about being an influencer.
39:39
We saw that with Chador Sanders. Maybe she's kind of like that
39:42
too, a little bit getting away from her.
39:44
Talk about her rival for a second.
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Caitlin Clark and Tyrese Halliburton seem to be best
39:50
buddies during all this. And there's been some pretty
39:53
hilarious memes as well, calling, you know, they they
39:56
nicknamed him the Haliban. And there's a bunch of like, the
40:00
Caitlin Clark and Tyrese Halliburton dressed up like
40:02
Osama bin Laden or something like that.
40:05
Yeah. It was just ridiculous stuff
40:07
that people are doing. Probably Knicks fans that
40:08
dislike them. I don't know if I dislike
40:11
Caitlin Clark. I do not like that.
40:13
She is friends with Tyrese Halliburton, who in my opinion,
40:15
is now the enemy of all Knicks fans for until further notice, I
40:19
guess Trey Young's still up there.
40:21
I speed. I go, I go on back and forth.
40:22
I feel like Trey. Young, I think.
40:23
I think Halliburton is a 2 year versus A1 year sample though.
40:27
I know, but the Trey Young stuff was so extreme at I don't know,
40:32
they both went on WWE to to taunt the Knicks.
40:35
Both of them did. So they got that in common.
40:38
But the Haliban is Jake's right. That's that's an excellent
40:41
nickname, the Haliban. But you know what I find it.
40:44
I wanted to talk about this. I put it in our read at the
40:47
beginning. Halliburton was named by the
40:50
vote by the players, the most overrated player in all of
40:55
basketball. Yeah, I would argue Trey Young
40:57
is the most overrated player in all.
40:58
Of basketball. I had that title in baseball.
41:02
They like in like AMLBPA anonymous vote.
41:05
Yep. But so, So what do you think?
41:09
So this obviously I don't think anyone's going to be saying that
41:12
about Halliburton anymore. But how did how did Like,
41:16
obviously this is a motivator, right Jabba?
41:20
I mean not, I mean, yes and no, like this was done like and you
41:28
you understand how or why it is. It's because you get some guys
41:32
and they don't they don't do everybody.
41:33
Honestly, don't get me wrong, But it's like, OK, go ahead and
41:38
tell me. But you know what?
41:39
We're in the same damn league. So obviously I'm not that
41:43
overrated. So I've earned my stripes to get
41:46
here, right? And so I, I just, I, I can't say
41:54
that it's, you guys see it a lot closer than I do being there
42:00
with them as Knicks fans in that.
42:03
And obviously me being tied to New York and understanding it.
42:08
But it's, it's one of those things where I don't want
42:12
billboard material for people. I don't because they just want
42:16
to go shove it up your ass and be like, you know what?
42:18
Oh, OK, I'm overrated. Boom, I just beat you.
42:22
Sorry. Yeah.
42:24
And then? So why are you?
42:25
They gave enough. Of that to not only the Knicks
42:27
fans there's a lot of Cavs fans that are thinking the same way
42:31
with already with Halliburton. I'm sure there's plenty of other
42:33
like more I guess Midwest rivalry type thing throughout
42:36
the regular season that would have had that kind of thing with
42:38
Halliburton too. It's just the way his demeanor
42:40
is too. And I, I don't know if that
42:42
contributed to when, when you got there, voting at the time
42:45
job when the MLBPA was. Called you.
42:48
I thought I found out in Oakland is where I found out.
42:52
Java I'm pretty sure. You know, do you know the
42:53
reasons like why they would think that way though?
42:56
Like it? Was well, yeah, because nobody,
42:58
nobody had ever done what I'd done in New York.
43:01
And yeah, I had great year, decent year, not a great year.
43:07
And so that's like kind of when it came out and I was like,
43:09
that's fine. I was like, as Pedro said, they
43:13
don't talk about nobodies. So let's let let's be real about
43:18
it. And so if we're, if we're doing
43:21
it in that context, like tell me I'm overrated, I don't care.
43:26
My paycheck goes through and you're still watching me and
43:29
you're talking about me. So what do you want me to do?
43:32
And I think it's again, the NBA and MLB probably a little
43:34
different with especially you're saying the traditions,
43:36
especially being a Yankee too, compared to like the NBA teams
43:39
or you kind of want those extra flash and you want the extra
43:42
headlines on you as, as our friend Errol says all the time,
43:46
the LJA, LeBron James Association that wants to create
43:49
offseason drama for no reason. And obviously there is that in
43:52
baseball too. I'm not saying there isn't that,
43:54
but I think it's especially like a kind of a mainstay now in the
43:57
NBA. And when you have younger guys
43:59
that are trying to be those types of instigators too,
44:02
because I mentioned it too when we were talking about Anthony
44:04
Edwards, like there's not a lot of those younger players that
44:06
are as much of the LeBron types as there are in with with his
44:10
generation. And maybe Halliburton is
44:13
starting to get to that kind of extent.
44:14
I don't think he actually brings it on himself like as much where
44:17
he's saying all these like super egregious things like you're
44:21
seeing Anthony Edwards do sometimes.
44:22
But besides, besides, like I would say Joel Embiid, like
44:27
there's not really as much like the last 10 years worth of these
44:30
NBA superstars of guys that are doing that at as much as what
44:33
Halliburton is doing. But again, there's a difference
44:35
where Halliburton's actually putting it up and it's fuel in
44:38
the fire. And what you've seen OKC do is
44:40
not have any guys like talking back at him, trying to fire him
44:43
up. And obviously he earned it with
44:44
the buzzer beater in game one playing as well as he did.
44:46
But it's still going to be something that OKC is taking
44:50
into account of. We're not going to.
44:51
We're going to make him stay humble type thing and not give
44:54
him the extra firing up. Especially now with Game 5
44:57
tonight at home where OKC doesn't lose very often.
45:00
So the the thing that I always said is, you know, bench doesn't
45:05
travel all that well. You know, you usually have your
45:07
great performances from your bench players like Mathurin,
45:11
like we saw in Game 3 when he put up 27 points and 22 minutes,
45:16
one of the all time heat checks of anyone.
45:19
And you know that he turned the tide in that game and that's why
45:22
it's 22. But take a look at what he did
45:24
in game four. He had eight points, right?
45:27
He had a crucial like handful of missed foul shots because they
45:31
knew he wasn't ready for the moment, so they fouled him.
45:34
Doesn't matter what his percentage is during the season
45:36
when it comes to this time of the year.
45:38
And Jabba, you know, and out in the ninth inning during May is
45:42
not the same as an out 9th inning during October.
45:44
It's a big difference, right? It's a big, big difference.
45:48
And a foul shot at this point of the year, I mean, we know it
45:51
ruined. I remember Nick Anderson ruined
45:53
his whole career. Like, that's a true story.
45:56
I mean, who knows the Nick Anderson story?
45:58
We're going to talk about the magic later tonight.
46:00
Wasn't it a front end of a one-on-one right?
46:02
He missed all his shots. I think it was 3 foul shots.
46:06
Wasn't it speedy? I think so.
46:08
He was a three pointer and he missed all three and then he
46:11
missed another one I think as. Well, yeah, I think it was the
46:13
front end of the one-on-one after he got fouled.
46:15
Well. It wouldn't have been one-on-one
46:16
because it's pro, so there wouldn't have been a one-on-one.
46:19
So it was like. Oh no, it was in a.
46:20
Bucket. It was an and one that he
46:22
missed. And an and one, yeah.
46:23
And then it was three straight foul shots and the guy like he
46:28
got the yips and never was able to play again at that level.
46:31
Like he went from being a star guard.
46:33
I don't like that word. We don't ever.
46:36
We don't ever want to hear that word.
46:38
Ever. It hurts.
46:40
It hurts because it happened. It happened to Chuck Knoblock,
46:45
famously. Yankee Stadium.
46:47
It happened it it's happened to more people than you think.
46:49
Think about Rick Ankiel. Oh, I know.
46:52
He could. He could throw a ball from 380
46:54
feet, but he couldn't throw 60 feet, 6 inches.
46:56
Another one that a lot of people don't know is Jared
46:59
Salzamacchia. And he couldn't throw it back to
47:03
the pitcher. If we all, we're all baseball
47:06
fans in Major League Rube Baker, maybe you should get off the
47:10
Victoria's Secret catalog and and learn that.
47:13
And another one is Gerald Laird. If you ever watched Gerald
47:18
Laird, he had to throw off of his opposite foot really.
47:23
And he always double pumped. If you go watch Gerald Laird and
47:27
I played with his brother and if you ever go watch him, he always
47:31
threw off of his left foot. Didn't throw off of his right
47:34
foot because he's right-handed. So you would throw off your
47:36
right foot, right? Fascinating.
47:38
That's wild. So he would always and if it if
47:42
it was a foul ball or anything, he was fine.
47:45
But if he if he was just receiving the ball and then went
47:50
to throw, it would be his left knee up and then it would be
47:54
like pump and then he would throw.
47:58
It was great. It happens to a lot of people.
48:00
That's why we don't like to hear the word.
48:02
It's, it's a bad one. I mean, usually it's a golf
48:05
term, right? Like a general term is it
48:07
originates in golf where someone just they can't hit a straight
48:10
for some reason, you know, like they're just completely out of
48:12
it. And probably happens to a lot of
48:14
golfers. We've seen it happen to guys
48:17
throwing the first base. We've seen it happen to guys
48:20
throwing, I guess to home as well as throwing back to the
48:22
pitcher. Foul shot.
48:25
Nick Anderson. We have an equivalent in in
48:28
hockey or football, speedy that you could think of.
48:31
I. I imagine a lot of kickers I
48:34
guess. Kickers.
48:35
Yeah. Yeah.
48:36
Well, Vanderjack comes to mind, right?
48:39
Yeah. And who was it?
48:40
Gary Anderson. He was, like, perfect all year.
48:42
Perfect all year in the playoffs and he misses it in the playoffs
48:45
to lose, right? Which would have given him a 10
48:47
point lead, which would have sealed the deal in that game.
48:48
Cody Parkey, Yeah, Yep, a whole bunch of people.
48:53
Yeah, but Cody Parkey wasn't a great kicker though.
48:55
Like Anderson was a great kicker.
48:57
Like Cody Parkey was probably an average kicker.
48:58
Blair Walsh is probably the bigger modern equivalent.
49:00
Like I've got one fell off sadly.
49:02
What speedy this was. This was one of the worst games
49:07
I ever watched in football history.
49:09
It was the playoff game between the Giants and the 49ers.
49:12
The Trey Junkin game when he couldn't snap the ball back to
49:15
the kicker. Remember that you might.
49:17
You were probably really young. I don't, yeah, I don't think I
49:19
direct. Yeah, I think that was a little
49:20
before my time. So I think it was the year after
49:23
we went to the Super Bowl, we're playing the 49ers and it was a
49:26
field goal is either the tire to win and all game the snaps
49:31
weren't getting back to the the placeholder and and again, he
49:35
just he just rolled another one. Should have been a pass
49:39
interference on that play. I think they tackled Shockey or
49:41
something like that in the end zone, something ridiculous like
49:44
that. But it was absolutely terrible.
49:48
Yeah. So you know it was.
49:49
Don't worry, we had a Zach Diazzi to stabilize it after
49:52
that. Well, look, game game five
49:55
started right now, so let's just give everyone our picks and then
49:59
we're gonna get before we get into our guests.
50:01
He's not here yet. I don't.
50:03
Yeah, he's in. He's.
50:03
In right? Yeah, he's in.
50:04
Perfect. So we're gonna get into golf.
50:07
Clap of the day in a second, but let's just give everyone our
50:11
picks. I think the Thunder are going to
50:12
win this in six. But then again, I've said the
50:14
Thunder were going to win it in five.
50:16
I thought that they were going to be able to do this, you know,
50:18
a little bit more handily. I think at this point in the
50:21
series, I like what I see out of the Thunder.
50:24
I think they may have solved this puzzle if they shoot as
50:26
well as they did last game. I don't see any reason why they
50:30
don't win in six. What do you got, Speedy?
50:32
Yeah, I had Thunder in six initially.
50:34
Again, I was surprised they lost game one.
50:36
I was thinking it was going to be kind of more of a pattern.
50:38
But again, we've seen it still be that way to an extent, kind
50:40
of those closer middle scoring games.
50:42
I think this one's probably a little lower scoring.
50:44
We've seen a slower pace to start, but I think OKC still
50:46
takes it to the next two. And Jabba, I'm going to go
50:51
Thunder in seven. Thunder in seven, so we're all
50:55
kind of doubting the Pacers and the Haliban over there,
50:59
hopefully. The.
51:00
Haliban. The Haliban.
51:02
I love it. I love.
51:03
It bad nickname. That is tonight's show.
51:06
We made it. We got through the second ever
51:09
fish cast. The fish cast strikes back.
51:12
It is over on Thursday. We're going to have another
51:16
episode of the Fish cast because Arrow is still there.
51:18
So that one will be the return of the Fish cast.
51:20
Yes, that'll be if you guys follow along with the Return of
51:23
the Jedi type of motto I'm going on with here.
51:26
If not, that's quite all right. We have Speedy.
51:29
Who do we have coming on on Thursday?
51:31
All right, so joining the show for the first time on the show
51:33
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51:45
tonight. Just now, Jalen Williams with 40
51:47
points and one went away from the NBA title.
51:49
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52:00
because they just, they just called the CWS so.
52:04
Guess what, CWS still going on rest of this week we're going to
52:08
have, you know, more recaps of maybe the Stanley Cup Final.
52:11
We'll wrap up before our next show.
52:13
Maybe same thing with the NBA Finals.
52:14
We're going to have plenty to talk about on Thursday.
52:16
And we're going to talk about the CWS.
52:18
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52:27
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