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Encouraging Athletes to Take Steroids: Bryan Johnson's Enhanced Games · In the Loop AI

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Josh: So we have the regular Olympics, on this show we've covered the Robot Olympics,
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Josh: and now we have the Enhanced Olympics, an Olympic competition that just happened
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Josh: last weekend that offered $7 million in prizes to the top athletes in the world.
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Josh: But these are not normal athletes because the difference with the Enhanced Olympics,
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Josh: the Enhanced competition, is that you're allowed to take whatever performing
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Josh: enhancing drugs that you want.
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Josh: In fact, on screen you could see the before and after of what an Olympic swimmer
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Josh: looks like prior to the Enhanced Olympics, and currently afterwards.
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Josh: Words. He looks like a monster.
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Josh: This is a man that goes by the name The Missile. And on this episode,
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Josh: we're going to cover basically everything that went down at this new futuristic,
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Josh: pseudo dystopian Olympic event. We are fully kitted out in our athletic gear today.
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Josh: We are ready to talk all things superhuman.
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Josh: Is the ceiling actually higher because people dope? Or is there some unexpected
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Josh: outcomes that we're going to cover?
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Josh: I think the latter might be a little true, Ejaz. I know both of us were tuned into this this weekend.
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Josh: It's a really bizarre thing, but I think a really cool learning experience to
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Josh: see the impact that drugs have on super athletes.
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Ejaaz: Yeah, my social media timeline looked very different over the weekend,
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Ejaaz: and I couldn't figure out why.
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Ejaaz: This guy was plastered everywhere. His name is James the Missile Magnuson,
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Ejaaz: and he's an Australian swimmer.
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Ejaaz: He never actually won any kind of a significant medal at the Olympics, at least.
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Ejaaz: And he came back out of retirement to participate in these games. So what are these games?
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Ejaaz: Over this weekend, a bunch of billionaires got together, including Peter Thiel
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Ejaaz: and Balaji. and they said, okay, let's try and recreate the Olympics but have
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Ejaaz: no restrictions on doping.
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Ejaaz: So typically at the Olympics, we have something called the Anti-Doping Agency.
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Ejaaz: They have a set of rules of all performance-enhancing drugs and substances that
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Ejaaz: you can't use to perform at the highest level. So it's just human, no enhancement at all.
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Ejaaz: They took that and completely flipped the script, allowing pretty much anyone
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Ejaaz: and everyone to enhance themselves.
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Ejaaz: And the idea was, how far can we push the human body?
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Ejaaz: What records can be beaten when we use these different types of substances.
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Ejaaz: So it took place in Vegas.
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Ejaaz: There were around 36 events in total and a huge cash price, $7 million,
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Ejaaz: as you mentioned earlier on.
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Ejaaz: Now, the breakdown of this is pretty simple. If you break a world record being
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Ejaaz: on enhanced performance drugs, or if you just break a record in general, you win $1 million.
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Ejaaz: If you win your own embed category, you win $250K. So it really stacks up.
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Ejaaz: And I think this is like the largest payout of any sporting event in recent
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Ejaaz: history. So the way this played out was it took place in Vegas over the course
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Ejaaz: of four days, including the weekend.
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Ejaaz: And it takes place over three specific event categories.
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Ejaaz: So you've got swimming, you've got track, you've got weight lifting,
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Ejaaz: plus a strongman deadlift exhibition.
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Ejaaz: All of the athletes performing can be on performance enhancing drugs. But there's a twist.
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Ejaaz: If you want to perform and you are a previous world record holder and you don't
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Ejaaz: want to engage in any of the drugs, you can also do that and see how you fare
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Ejaaz: against the enhanced versions of these athletes.
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Ejaaz: $7 million on the line in total. And this was the first sanctioned drug doping
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Ejaaz: event in modern sports history.
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Josh: So we got to start with the answering the question that everyone wants to know,
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Josh: which is, does it actually make a difference?
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Josh: And on the surface, the answer is obviously yes. The first person we're going
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Josh: to talk about is this guy named Christian, I'm not going to try to pronounce
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Josh: his last name, who raced and won the 50 meter men's freestyle in 20.81 seconds,
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Josh: which is seven tenths of a second faster than the world record.
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Josh: So that was a really strong start. In fact, this was actually the conclusion
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Josh: of it. This was the last event.
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Josh: And Christian wound up taking home $1.5 million from the bonuses and awards that he won.
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Josh: Now for better or worse that is the beginning
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Josh: and the end of the world records that were broken there was only one it was
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Josh: this one it happened at the very end of the race and it poses a series of really
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Josh: interesting questions because another example that we have is this guy half
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Josh: thor and i think a lot of people know him as just the mountain that's his nickname
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Josh: and he is one of the world record holders for deadlifting he tried to do a world
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Josh: record deadlift attempt at the
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Josh: didn't work. He got very close. This is a painful video to watch because that
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Josh: is an insane amount of weight, 515 kilograms, and unfortunately could not get it lifted.
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Josh: And there was this one interesting counter argument, which was one of the people
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Josh: that actually won an event, totally natural.
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Ejaaz: I just want to go back to this Christian guy for a second.
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Ejaaz: So he's the only PED enhanced athlete that not only broke the record,
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Ejaaz: but came away with the most money, 1.5 million dollars he performed
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Ejaaz: in four olympics previously he
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Ejaaz: performed for greece and he didn't medal
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Ejaaz: a single time so this guy this guy that like has suddenly broken a world record
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Ejaaz: that has stood the test of time 20.81 seconds um was able to kind of prove the
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Ejaaz: thesis that like if you are able to enhance yourself you can achieve a higher
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Ejaaz: fit i also want to like take a moment to laugh at this for a second, this is like a disco.
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Ejaaz: This is like a club. You just never see this in the Olympics.
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Ejaaz: I just find that hilarious.
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Ejaaz: So other kind of medal winners that we have here, there's Cody Miller. He was a Vegas local.
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Ejaaz: He won the breaststroke event. We've got Fred Curley, two-time Olympic medalist.
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Ejaaz: He won the men's 100 meters race in 9.97 seconds.
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Ejaaz: He won 250K. He won the event, but he didn't break any kind of record.
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Ejaaz: Megan Romano on the female category, women's 100 freestyle. and Tristan Evelyn
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Ejaaz: won the women's 100 meters on track and Marius Cush won the butterfly event.
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Ejaaz: Each took home 250K each. So there was a bunch of very impressive feats,
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Ejaaz: fast and quick times, but not necessarily too many records broken.
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Ejaaz: And in the case of there being event winners, they actually ended up being ones
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Ejaaz: that won on performance enhancing drugs.
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Josh: And before we get into the all natural winner, we should talk about the rules
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Josh: that feels important or perhaps the lack thereof rules. Basically anything different
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Josh: that you could put into your body so long as it is FDA approved is allowed.
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Josh: It must be taken under medical supervision and every single dose and ingredients
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Josh: must be published prior to competing. That's it.
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Josh: Other than that, it's free range. And what we saw is that 62% of athletes actually
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Josh: stacked three or more of these substances on top of each other to chain the
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Josh: effects together, with the most popular one being testosterone.
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Josh: 91% of the people who compete on this were on testosterone.
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Josh: We saw it in the clip of the missile and how big he got so quickly.
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Josh: That's where a lot of that comes from. Second to that is human growth hormone.
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Josh: 79% of athletes did that.
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Josh: And then the third most popular, which I found interesting, were stimulants.
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Josh: 62% of the athletes who competed use stimulants. That includes things like Adderall,
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Josh: which is an amphetamine. It gets you all hyped up.
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Josh: And also modafinil, which is another one on the list. I'm not super familiar
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Josh: with these, but there are a lot of risks that come with these,
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Josh: using these together, with compounding them. And the big question is,
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Josh: is like, are these worth it?
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Josh: And the answers that we received are a little questionable.
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Josh: Now we have these funny examples that I saw of people who really stacked these very hard.
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Josh: One of them, we have a clip from Brian Johnson here that we're gonna show,
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Josh: which talks about how one of the athletes, the missile, he actually took so
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Josh: many substances that he started sinking in the water because he became so dense.
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Josh: And it didn't quite work out for him that well because he came in last place, unfortunately.
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Josh: And it's funny, they were measuring these dosages and they had to start moving
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Josh: over to horse measuring tools because it set off the limit for what humans are actually allowed to do.
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Josh: And it's almost funny seeing how far these athletes will go with seemingly low returns.
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Josh: I mean, even down to the bathing suit, there's this really funny example of
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Josh: a video where one of these swimmers, it takes 27 minutes to actually get the
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Josh: bathing suit on their body fully because they have to include powder all over
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Josh: it and they need three people to help pull it up because they're very tight.
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Josh: It basically turns them into a seal. So...
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Josh: The optimizations for that final like 0.1% of edge are all in play.
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Josh: And it's just, it's really fascinating to see.
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Ejaaz: I'm not surprised to see Brian Johnson here commentating on this,
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Ejaaz: like he spends his entire life, his whole brand is just to kind of like optimize
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Ejaaz: his life for health and fitness.
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Ejaaz: And that's basically the thesis for this entire enhanced games,
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Ejaaz: like this enhanced Olympics.
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Ejaaz: It's like, how far can we push the human body and its limits to go to.
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Ejaaz: Now, it's interesting, I looked up the rulebook for these games, and there isn't one.
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Ejaaz: In fact, when you go into the official site, or any it's official Wikipedia
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Ejaaz: page, at least, it basically says it is the complete opposite to what the anti-doping
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Ejaaz: agency states for any kind of Olympic or actual sporting event.
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Ejaaz: So I found that pretty hilarious. And it brings up the question of like,
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Ejaaz: should humans be using these drugs?
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Ejaaz: Or should they not? Like, what's the moral ethic behind it?
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Ejaaz: Now, the obvious answer for many people or the majority of people will probably
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Ejaaz: be like, you know, you shouldn't be able to take a drug enhancing kind of like medication.
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Ejaaz: You should just kind of like perform in your natural fervor. But...
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Ejaaz: This has been kind of disputed a lot and it's actually changed a lot over time.
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Ejaaz: So if you look at like what the anti-doping agency kind of like positioned where
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Ejaaz: it positioned itself a decade ago versus where it positions itself now,
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Ejaaz: it's now enabled a bunch of different kinds of drugs or compounds to be used.
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Ejaaz: So it's always evolved over time.
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Ejaaz: And I guess the question that the Enhanced Games is trying to answer is,
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Ejaaz: should we have any of these rules in the first place?
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Ejaaz: Like what constitutes a safe substance? What constitutes an unsafe substance?
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Ejaaz: You'll see here like in the rulebook, they say that like, you can't use anything and everything.
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Ejaaz: And the things that are FDA approved, you need to state what substances you've taken,
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Ejaaz: what the doses dosages are so that they have a kind of like experimental lab
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Ejaaz: kind of feel like, I can't help but think that like, the sponsors for the show,
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Ejaaz: the investors for the show are biotech companies that are just doing as not
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Ejaaz: for the sporting history,
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Ejaaz: or the prominence that comes from that it's more to like, kind of like,
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Ejaaz: use them as lab rats to try and figure out, you know, what pads they should
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Ejaaz: be building themselves.
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Ejaaz: And there's a really interesting point that we want to make on the business side of things.
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Ejaaz: But before we do that, there is a narrative break.
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Ejaaz: So you would expect the people that use these different kinds of drugs to perform
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Ejaaz: better than the people that don't.
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Ejaaz: But that ended up not being the case, not just in one event,
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Ejaaz: but in many different cases. But let's just take this one example.
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Ejaaz: Hunter Armstrong shows up. He's a two-time Olympic gold medalist and a former
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Ejaaz: world record holder. And he performs in the 50-meter backstroke,
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Ejaaz: right? This is a very, you know, highly competitive event.
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Ejaaz: And he ends up winning it. He didn't take a single PED, performance enhancing
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Ejaaz: drug, and he beat all the guys, including, I believe, James the Missile Magnuson,
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Ejaaz: who is that beefed up guy that we showed earlier.
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Ejaaz: So it just goes to show that like, one of two things.
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Ejaaz: One, maybe the performance enhancing drugs don't actually enhance you for the
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Ejaaz: particular sport that you're trying to do. Maybe bigger muscle doesn't actually
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Ejaaz: help. It's more technique.
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Ejaaz: But then the other question that comes to my mind is, were the non-enhanced athletes
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Ejaaz: already on the drugs beforehand and maybe like they've just kind of like increased
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Ejaaz: it to a level that's kind of close to what is legal or illegal and they were
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Ejaaz: able to still win anyhow it's a it's an interesting question.
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Josh: There's like these two outstanding questions right one is that one that the
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Josh: actual games posed which is are olympic athletes already doping and they're
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Josh: just hiding it very well their assumption is yes their assumption is that 44
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Josh: of olympic athletes are actually doping as we speak and they're doing this on
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Josh: the regular basis and that's how they're getting exceptional results.
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Josh: Other side of this is that enhanced athletes
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Josh: don't even perform at an olympic level because it
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Josh: would effectively mean based on the results of this event
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Josh: that the physical ceiling of a lot of athletes is baked into more their genetics
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Josh: versus their ability to stack it on using growth enhancers because most of these
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Josh: races that we talked about they didn't even break olympic world records or they
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Josh: didn't even break olympic records let alone world records so a lot of the records weren't broken,
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Josh: even given the sheer amount of perceived advantage they would have from taking these drugs.
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Josh: And I think that's really noteworthy is the idea that possibly like humans,
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Josh: maybe you just need to be born as an elite level athlete and you could train
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Josh: to get to the maximum of your own potential, but taking a certain amount of
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Josh: drugs will not get you somewhere that you are not biologically able to do yet.
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Josh: And I think that's probably the takeaway from the first Olympic games is that
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Josh: you can maybe improve yourself a little bit, but based on the results we're
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Josh: seeing, I mean, people who didn't take any performance enhancing drugs were winning these events.
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Josh: And the only world record that was broken was one. And it was by seven tenths
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Josh: of a second. So it's very small margins here. We're right on the frontier.
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Josh: And there isn't a clear signal that taking all these drugs actually makes a
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Josh: meaningful difference.
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Josh: Now, granted, these are the FDA approved drugs. These are not the experimental
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Josh: peptides that we see a lot of people talking about.
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Josh: This is not that next generation of drugs. So we'll see how these games evolve
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Josh: over the years. But right now, the data is a little questionable.
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Ejaaz: There's this amazing quote from Fred Curley, who's a guy or athlete that competed
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Ejaaz: in the 100-meter sprint, and he refused to take any of these drugs,
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Ejaaz: and he ended up winning the event, despite not taking any of the drugs,
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Ejaaz: with a 9.97-second beat.
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Ejaaz: But he goes, he goes,
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Ejaaz: Everyone needs to train harder and use the drugs better too.
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Ejaaz: So the point he's making is like, essentially like drugs aren't everything to
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Ejaaz: win this kind of like type of an event or sporting competition at least.
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Ejaaz: And a lot goes into kind of like training and prepping yourself.
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Ejaaz: And we kind of see this with the people that like are very open and transparent,
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Ejaaz: but using steroids to kind of like enhance their physique, they do still put in a lot of work.
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Ejaaz: I kind of think of, I don't know if you know this guy, Josh, Chris Bumstead. he's
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Ejaaz: like this guy that's competed in a lot of like male um uh
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Ejaaz: olympics when it comes to like you know muscle mass and like those types of
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Ejaaz: competitions he's been very open about this kind of stuff and he puts in so
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Ejaaz: much work i've spent like so much time watching his youtube videos and stuff
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Ejaaz: and it's the same thing happening uh in these events like just because you take
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Ejaaz: these drugs doesn't mean you're automatically going to win you need to put in
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Ejaaz: the effort and you can get out competed by people who put in more effort than you yeah.
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Josh: They're freaks of nature and it's it's interesting to see. I wonder what would
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Josh: happen if we took those Olympic athletes and we gave them doping access,
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Josh: like the gold medalists of all these events.
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Josh: What would it look like if they were given a little extra edge?
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Josh: Would it make a material difference?
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Josh: I don't know. Maybe one day we'll see as this frontier gets pushed even forward.
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Ejaaz: Also, I want someone to come in that isn't retired for 20 years,
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Ejaaz: which is what a lot of these guys were.
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Ejaaz: I want to see them come out of their prime and use some of these drugs and see whether that works.
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Ejaaz: I guess a lot of that is dependent on like future versions of this competition.
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Josh: Yeah. And then there's this whole second part of this competition too,
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Josh: which is getting down to the kind of reason why this even exists in the first
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Josh: place. We mentioned Peter Thiel is one of the elite investors.
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Josh: This took place in Vegas. This also, one thing that's noteworthy that we haven't
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Josh: mentioned yet is the fact that it took place in Vegas outside in the end of May.
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Josh: It was hot, so hot that they had to cover the barbells because they were getting too hot to even hold.
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Josh: A lot of athletes, they train and very controlled indoor environments.
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Josh: So having to compete outdoor in the very, very high heat, fully exposed to the sun
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Josh: is a disadvantage. But the business that put this on is, I think,
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Josh: part of the story that a lot of people are glazing over.
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Josh: Because this very much is a business. This is not just a for-fun philanthropic
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Josh: venture. This is a company with a goal.
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Josh: And that is clearly based on their website to sell you supplements or to actually
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Josh: trade at a higher valuation because it's public.
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Josh: But Ejaz, you were scrolling through the website earlier to just get a little bit more information.
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Josh: And it's funny, the first thing that you see when you visit the website is a
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Josh: button that says get enhanced and they're selling a series of performance enhancing
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Josh: drugs that you can go and buy based on this brand.
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Josh: So it's interesting to note the economic incentives as well for holding an event like this.
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Ejaaz: Yeah, you would think that when you go to a sporting athletic associations website
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Ejaaz: that they would probably talk something about the competition and like explain
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Ejaaz: kind of like the philosophy, the thesis, the vision behind this entire thing.
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Ejaaz: It's one of the greatest competitive traits of history. And over here,
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Ejaaz: they're just trying to sell your product.
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Ejaaz: I don't even know what these products do, by the way, but they're trying to
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Ejaaz: sell you the products that these athletes are taking you as a regular individual
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Ejaaz: that may not be competing at the highest level or have any interest in competing
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Ejaaz: at the highest level, you're immediately hit with a get enhanced button.
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Ejaaz: And you can view this menu of these random compounds, which most of these compounds,
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Ejaaz: I don't know how to pronounce, I don't know what they will do.
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Ejaaz: And you can buy it in the same way that I buy my protein powder,
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Ejaaz: and I have it on subscription, and you can take it.
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Ejaaz: I don't know what effects these will have. But the point is,
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Ejaaz: this seems like a biotech company advertising their product disguised as a sporting event.
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Ejaaz: And that kind of takes away from the authenticity and the excitement that comes
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Ejaaz: from this and reinforces the point that I made earlier, which is this seems
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Ejaaz: like a worldwide kind of lab experiment
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Ejaaz: to try and see whether their drugs actually do do well and if not,
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Ejaaz: what went wrong and how they can improve it. Maybe they do genetic testing and
16:27
Ejaaz: all those kinds of things.
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Ejaaz: And so another thing I discovered is if you go to the investor tab of this website,
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Ejaaz: you'll notice a stock ticker.
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Ejaaz: On the left over here. And so I was like, what is this? What is this stock?
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Ejaaz: Why is this company public?
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Ejaaz: And it turns out it is the enhanced games is basically part of a SPAC.
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Ejaaz: So they were like acquired under the ticker, E N H A.
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Ejaaz: And they basically started effectively trading about a couple of months ago.
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Ejaaz: And in the last month, it has taken an absolute beating.
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Ejaaz: The complete value of this entire corporation is down almost 50%.
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Ejaaz: So it signals a few things.
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Ejaaz: One, that the general public's confidence in this type of competition isn't
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Ejaaz: too high, isn't too favorable, which I guess makes sense.
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Ejaaz: The majority of people are used to the Olympics. They care about ethics and
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Ejaaz: they care about the fact that like these humans are performing in their natural form.
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Ejaaz: People aren't really open to PEDs or they're not really, they have a bad taste
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Ejaaz: in their mouth about like what these things actually do. They see it as a bad thing.
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Ejaaz: But just interesting to see the financial incentives that are put in by these
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Ejaaz: full billionaires, Balaji, Peter Thiel, and a number of others that are trying
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Ejaaz: to kind of boost this mainly as a sales narrative versus a sporting achievement.
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Josh: Yeah, and I wish the stock was actually the other direction because I think
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Josh: it's very admirable trying new things, shifting the Overton window in ways that
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Josh: a lot of people don't expect, making it acceptable to test and experiment on yourself.
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Josh: And this is very much, I mean, we talk a lot about AI on the show.
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Josh: This is very much a world that gets empowered and accelerated by AI.
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Josh: I think when we think about a lot of the largest investments that are coming,
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Josh: right now, even from within OpenAI and Anthropic and other large companies like
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Josh: Eli Lilly and Andreessen Horowitz,
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Josh: they're all spending a lot of time figuring out the best ways to contribute
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Josh: to the world of biotech, to understanding genome sequencing,
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Josh: to investing in biotech accelerators, anything that can really move the needle forward.
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Josh: In fact, Eli Lilly and Andreessen Horowitz launched a half a billion dollar
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Josh: fund just for AI biotech to help accelerate the rate at which we discover these
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Josh: new breakthroughs. And one of the things that we're gonna be seeing
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Josh: as we progress through this, is the increased cadence of trials that not only
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Josh: go to trial, but then pass trial, because we're able to do so much of the testing
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Josh: through these large language models versus having to wait for human trials that take many, many years.
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Josh: So the rate of acceleration that we're going to see these types of improvements,
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Josh: maybe now just for sport, because it's fun to watch, but then also for just
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Josh: general well-being of humans, it's probably going to accelerate fairly quickly.
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Josh: And all of these initiatives are all pushing the same direction.
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Ejaaz: And I think you're right. And I don't think it's just going to surface in the form of athletics.
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Ejaaz: It's going to surface in the form of self-care and even like prevention of diseases
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Ejaaz: forming or even just treating diseases directly.
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Ejaaz: I think immediately of isomorphic labs, which is basically Google's AI-powered
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Ejaaz: drug lab, which just spun out and raised, I think, $2.1 billion from Thrive.
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Ejaaz: Their whole thing is they attach
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Ejaaz: Google's like leading protein sequencing model to a drug design module.
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Ejaaz: And it basically spits out, it evaluates your genome, it sequences it,
19:26
Ejaaz: and then it spits out a perfected cure design of a drug that could prevent major
19:31
Ejaaz: diseases from occurring.
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Ejaaz: Now, the one major kind of like feat that it's achieved so far is the drugs
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Ejaaz: that it's designed, that has been tested and built in a lab,
19:39
Ejaaz: have already passed a number of the different obstacles, way more than an average
19:44
Ejaaz: drug does, for testing to go to human trials.
19:46
Ejaaz: So the technology is already proving itself.
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Ejaaz: Just a bunch of these drugs haven't hit the public market yet because they're
19:52
Ejaaz: going through human trials right now.
19:53
Ejaaz: So I expect there to be a shift in the future where people go from like not
19:58
Ejaaz: having certainty around how to treat a particular disease or problem or cure
20:02
Ejaaz: to having full confidence in doing that. And in fact, leaning into it.
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Ejaaz: If you could have a personalized drug for yourself versus for me,
20:10
Ejaaz: for some particular ailment that we're feeling, that is something that will
20:13
Ejaaz: not just permeate the drug and disease side of things, but also performance
20:18
Ejaaz: enhancing as well. It's easy to kind of like make that jump in your head to go from,
20:21
Ejaaz: well, if I can prevent this disease, how can I make myself better?
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Ejaaz: I'm like, I don't have a disease right now, but can I improve my hair growth
20:27
Ejaaz: or whatever that might be?
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Ejaaz: And so you can see something like the Enhanced Games becoming a lot popular
20:31
Ejaaz: down the line, thanks to AI.
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Josh: Yeah, and fun stats in terms of AI acceleration. We're about halfway through
20:37
Josh: the year of 2026, and so far, 173 AI drug discovered programs are in clinical trials right now.
20:44
Josh: 94 are in phase one, 56 are in phase two, 15 are in phase three,
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Josh: all enabled by AI. This is a huge rate of acceleration.
20:52
Josh: In fact, Anthropic, they acquired Coefficient Bio, if you remember a little
20:55
Josh: while ago, for $400 million of stock.
20:58
Josh: So Frontier Labs are trying to solve this problem, which is mostly now a large
21:03
Josh: numbers problem because I think the estimate is 10 to the 60th power possible
21:08
Josh: chemical compounds exist, which is more than the stars in the observable universe.
21:12
Josh: And now it's these companies' jobs to seek out that problem space,
21:16
Josh: figure out where the best solutions lie, and actually bring those into a form
21:19
Josh: factor that humans can ingest to make their lives better.
21:22
Josh: And if these enhanced games can accelerate the rate that that happens or the
21:25
Josh: attention that gets placed on it, I think that's a huge win for everyone,
21:28
Josh: even if the records were not really broken this one.
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Ejaaz: I think it's a good start. I actually do want to see more of this happen.
21:35
Ejaaz: I have a bio background, so I kind of like dug into the weeds of a lot of this
21:39
Ejaaz: genetic stuff in the past and I'm like massively pro, like trying to figure
21:43
Ejaaz: out new ways and new cures or novel ways to kind of enhance the human body.
21:47
Ejaaz: When it comes to sporting i i expect this trend to
21:49
Ejaaz: flip um i was kind of surprised that the drug enhancements didn't work
21:52
Ejaaz: but it may also make sense like they have never had like
21:55
Ejaaz: a wide test bucket to kind of see how humans actually perform at the highest
22:00
Ejaaz: level and it was just a great spectacle to watch over the weekend um it definitely
22:03
Ejaaz: kept me super entertained i sent a bunch of these to my friends who were like
22:07
Ejaaz: that you know these kind of records being broken are crazy um and it was just
22:10
Ejaaz: a fun discussion overall for for i think like uh
22:13
Ejaaz: people who are kind of obsessed with sports or athletics or like even kind of
22:17
Ejaaz: interested and wanted to see, you know, how far can we actually push this?
22:20
Ejaaz: It's been great entertainment all round. And I'm looking forward to the next
22:23
Ejaaz: one. I'm excited to see like what some of these products actually do for regular people as well.
22:28
Ejaaz: If you are someone that is listening to this and you go onto their website and
22:31
Ejaaz: you're seeing some of these comments and you're interested in it,
22:33
Ejaaz: like, let us know what your thought process is behind it.
22:36
Ejaaz: Because I look at this and I'm kind of like scared, but maybe you guys know
22:39
Ejaaz: something better than me.
22:40
Ejaaz: I know peptides and amino acids are becoming like a big thing now.
22:43
Ejaaz: So maybe I'm just a boomer and missing something.
22:45
Ejaaz: But that is it for today's episode.
22:47
Ejaaz: We have a bunch more coming up this week. Josh, any final words?
22:51
Josh: No, that's it. I mean, it was a fun weekend. If you haven't seen some of these
22:54
Josh: clips, I would recommend going back, checking them out, watching them.
22:56
Josh: If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to share it with your friends.
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Josh: Your support really helps. We have been having record weeks the last two weeks in terms of you.
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Josh: So thank you so much for the support. As always, we really appreciate it.
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Josh: And we will be back again tomorrow for another episode.
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Ejaaz: See you guys.