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Divisional Round Sunday Recap: Rams Escape Caleb's Heroics and Patriots Handle Houston · NFL explained.

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where I don't think Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 1: is gonna make another life changing play again this season,
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  Speaker 1: but you never know, Like at this point, he makes
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  Speaker 1: the impossible possible. I'm Greg Rosenthal in the Chris Westling
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  Speaker 1: podcast studio. I'm with my friend Patrick Clayback.
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  Speaker 2: Nick Shook is joining us from Cleveland. The Divisional round
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  Speaker 2: was a banger. Conference Championship weekend is gonna have a
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  Speaker 2: lot to live up to, Nick Shook. We know what
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  Speaker 2: the championship games are gonna be, and yes, the Bears
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  Speaker 2: are not gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: Involved in it.
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  Speaker 2: And yet even though they lost in this game, I
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  Speaker 2: still can't like move past that one last Caleb movement
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  Speaker 2: that he gave us earlier tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only right that it ended that way.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, you don't want, you know, Bears fans to
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  Speaker 4: have their hearts broken, as they too often have, But
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  Speaker 4: it's only right that they had another miraculous play on
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  Speaker 4: a fourth for gotta have it situation that pays off
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  Speaker 4: and gives them one last thrill to basically put a
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  Speaker 4: caper on what was a thrill filled twenty twenty five season,
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  Speaker 4: The great debut for the Ben Johnson Era and plenty
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  Speaker 4: to look forward to for this fan base.
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  Speaker 5: In classic no No, No, No, Yes form where Caleb
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  Speaker 5: instantly starts to retreat and spins back and it's like,
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  Speaker 5: oh no, it's all gonna be for naught, and then
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  Speaker 5: magic that ultimately fizzles out. But living in those moments
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  Speaker 5: is what makes this whole enterprise.
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  Speaker 2: Yes so special, I know, And I got Eric Roberts,
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  Speaker 2: he's recovered. We love you, Eric from that that thing
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  Speaker 2: we won't talk about that happened on Saturday, involving your
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  Speaker 2: team yelling at me. It's like, we're gonna get to
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  Speaker 2: that play. We're gonna talk about the play. But sometimes
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  Speaker 2: plays and themes of a season we can't even wait
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  Speaker 2: to get into. And Caleb Williams and these plays that
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  Speaker 2: he's made at the end of these games.
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  Speaker 1: To me are like the number one theme of this season.
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  Speaker 2: And yet it was the Rams, resourceful as ever, who
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  Speaker 2: found a way to get it done in that cold for.
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  Speaker 3: The rookie Harrison Mivas on the hold of Eathan Evans.
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  Speaker 3: Here it comes to send the Rams to Seattle for the.
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  Speaker 6: NFC Championship game.
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  Speaker 7: It's good.
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  Speaker 8: To Rams win.
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  Speaker 3: It's twenty to seventeen in over time.
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  Speaker 1: A great call by our friend JB.
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  Speaker 2: Long, who's making that long flight back from Chicago on
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  Speaker 2: Sunday night with our friend Maurice Jones Drew, and they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be making another flight up the coast to
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  Speaker 2: Seattle for the NFC Championship game next Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Harrison mevs.
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  Speaker 2: Before getting bleeped on NBC after the game that was controversial,
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  Speaker 2: finishes out a crazy game that had a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of everything, twenty to seventeen the Rams win. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to do something different here, Patrick and Nick. We're each
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  Speaker 2: going to have one overarching thought, Oh my God, of
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  Speaker 2: this game, like a takeaway before we get into everything.
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  Speaker 2: I'm putting you on the spot, what is your takeaway
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  Speaker 2: from this entire affair?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so around eighty plays for the starters on both teams,
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  Speaker 5: I think you altered the results on fifteen of those
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  Speaker 5: individual plays get a different end result. It's equal parts
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  Speaker 5: frustrating as well as fantastic because those are the stakes
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  Speaker 5: in a single elimination playoff game, and I hope, in
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  Speaker 5: our everlasting search, Greg are for that one particular.
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  Speaker 9: Thing to take away from the game.
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  Speaker 5: We pull back our focus and we're able to turn
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  Speaker 5: the resolution up and see that the forest is the trees,
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  Speaker 5: the individual aspects that make all of this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's why I'm getting three different takeaways to start,
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  Speaker 2: just three umbrella takeaways.
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  Speaker 1: As we get going, what about you shuk.
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  Speaker 4: This was a classic case of a football game that
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  Speaker 4: was included many phases. It included a first half in
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  Speaker 4: which the Bears didn't capitalize on what I thought was
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  Speaker 4: a better half of performance than their opposition, the Rams.
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  Speaker 4: Yet you're tied at ten. It's basically a slog of
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  Speaker 4: a third quarter, early fourth quarter. The Rams finally find
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  Speaker 4: their rhythm, get into the end zone, and it takes
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  Speaker 4: a miracle for the Bears.
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  Speaker 3: Naturally.
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  Speaker 4: I think that it was a perfect example of how
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  Speaker 4: football is truly a fourth quarter and sometimes extra period
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  Speaker 4: story and why it is the most popular sport in
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  Speaker 4: this nation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the reason I started even with that, like
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  Speaker 2: mentioning that Caleb play was Yet, I mean, Roger Goodell
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  Speaker 2: has to be sad to see this. Caleb Williams, Ben
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  Speaker 2: Johnson team go. Because we've been doing this a while,
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  Speaker 2: there's never been anything quite like the end of this
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  Speaker 2: Bear season.
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  Speaker 1: Not really.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you go back to the Week sixteen
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  Speaker 2: game against the Packers and how that ended. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, he has the most you know, comeback
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter wins in the history of the league, so
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  Speaker 2: literally that hasn't happened. But the combination of what he
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  Speaker 2: did in Week eighteen and then throughout these playoffs in
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  Speaker 2: Week sixty, like, I can't remember a ride we've ever
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  Speaker 2: been on like this. But my takeaway, so I guess
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  Speaker 2: that was kind of too. I'm jamming it in there.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you do as a host.
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  Speaker 2: My takeaway is that, like the Rams defense kept giving
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  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford enough chances to eventually do the thing that
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  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford does. And I think that gets to your
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  Speaker 2: point too, to both of your points that it is
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  Speaker 2: a fourth quarter, overtime game. It had so many swings,
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  Speaker 2: but we're gonna get to the Patriots Texans. I should
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  Speaker 2: have mentioned the AFC championship that happened is set as well,
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  Speaker 2: but I found some similarities here where the two leading
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  Speaker 2: MVP candidates both didn't play their best games on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: But it is a team sport, and particularly for Stafford,
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  Speaker 2: who I think had his worst game of the entire
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  Speaker 2: season today, he was picked up by his defense like
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  Speaker 2: he's picked up his teammates and his defense so many
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  Speaker 2: times this season. And eventually the play calling in the
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter from Sean McVay and then the execution, especially
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  Speaker 2: by Stafford in the overtime drive. They kept giving him
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  Speaker 2: chances and eventually he did the thing that Matthew Stafford
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  Speaker 2: does and he steals your soul.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was great performances, especially the entire Bears secondary.
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  Speaker 5: Deshaun Wright had better coverage on Devonte Adams for almost
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  Speaker 5: the entire game for a crucial great throw and catch
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  Speaker 5: from Stafford to Adams on the game winning mevs.
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  Speaker 9: Excuse me MeVis field goal drive.
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  Speaker 5: I've been thinking about it all night and I loved
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  Speaker 5: it on the first try. But in terms of like
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  Speaker 5: the game by Jakwon Brisker, the game by Kyler Gordon,
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  Speaker 5: it was over and over again the Bears defense putting
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  Speaker 5: Stafford in these disadvantageous positions were you know, maybe throwing
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  Speaker 5: the balls not the right circumstance, but they're gonna dance
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  Speaker 5: with who brung him and he's been great all year.
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  Speaker 9: Just a great defensive performance tonight. They came up a
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  Speaker 9: touch shot.
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  Speaker 2: You made a face shook when I said I thought
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  Speaker 2: it was the worst Stafford performance of the of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, why do you disagree?
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  Speaker 3: You're wrong?
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  Speaker 4: His worst performance was in Atlanta at the end, near
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  Speaker 4: the end of the season. There was a terrible game
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  Speaker 4: they had that day. This was not close to that.
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  Speaker 4: But what this was a great example of why the
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  Speaker 4: playoffs are so captivating, and especially this year, because this
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  Speaker 4: game mirrored a lot of what we saw in Denver yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: which was coaches making adjustments and basically reacting to what
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  Speaker 4: one team dictating to the other and then then taking
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  Speaker 4: the power back. And in this instance, it was Dennis
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  Speaker 4: Allen blitzing Matthew Stafford off the edge with the defensive
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  Speaker 4: backs giving him looks that he wasn't accustomed to or
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  Speaker 4: wasn't comfortable with. They couldn't throw the football even though
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  Speaker 4: outside of their first early scoring drive, and they stuck
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  Speaker 4: to it. And then it's Sean mcvagh getting the halftime
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  Speaker 4: and almost listening to the NBC halftime show, and they're
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  Speaker 4: all sitting at the desk, Jason Garrett, Tony Dungee, and
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  Speaker 4: they're all just like, run the ball more.
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  Speaker 3: And what did you do?
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  Speaker 4: They come out, they run the ball more and they
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  Speaker 4: get back on track a chess match, a back while
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  Speaker 4: playoff football.
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  Speaker 3: So good, we.
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  Speaker 9: Got laid to the fourth course.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I think I don't know if he
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  Speaker 2: was watching the halftime live. Maybe they played it to
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  Speaker 2: him like right at the end of the third quarter
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  Speaker 2: or so, because it's it still took him a while. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there was like a seven drive sequence where they had
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  Speaker 2: eighty nine total yards on thirty one place six first
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  Speaker 2: downs in a seven drive sequence, and at that point
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  Speaker 2: of the game they had thrown the ball thirty four times,
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  Speaker 2: they had run it eleven times. Maybe he actually was
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  Speaker 2: on Blue Sky, because that's the moment where I sent
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  Speaker 2: out something of like, yeah, they've despite having like a
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  Speaker 2: fifty four percent success rate so far to that point
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  Speaker 2: in the game, it would been thirty four to eleven
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  Speaker 2: in terms of passes to runs after that point when
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  Speaker 2: I sent that out. Not taking credit, but you just
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  Speaker 2: never know, I mean, causation correlation.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows.
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  Speaker 2: They only threw the ball twelve times, they ran it
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  Speaker 2: twenty times, and they had a classic Kyron Williams and
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  Speaker 2: Blake Korum drive that ended up resulting in a touchdown
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  Speaker 2: that also included the classic puka akua fourth down play.
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  Speaker 2: Let's actually listen to a question from the press conference
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  Speaker 2: after the game. How about our Jordan rod Rieg in
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  Speaker 2: the press conference room. He's not throwing away a questions,
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  Speaker 2: He's getting to the meat of the matter.
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything to take from tonight going so pass
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  Speaker 1: heavy in the elements against a really good Dakeasy g Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I think?
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  Speaker 10: What I I kind of mentioned it, I could have
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  Speaker 10: done a much better job. And then I did think
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  Speaker 10: once we were able to get some success, we settled
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  Speaker 10: into a little bit of a different approach, you know,
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  Speaker 10: being able to lean on the run, and then when
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  Speaker 10: we were throwing it, picking up the tempo a little bit,
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  Speaker 10: and I thought Matthew had a bunch of success keeping
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  Speaker 10: the ball in play and guys made their plays, and
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  Speaker 10: so I think overall, what I would say Jordan is
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  Speaker 10: I did not like the feel for the flow of
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  Speaker 10: the game that I had outside of the first you
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  Speaker 10: know series, where our guys did a great job defensively.
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  Speaker 10: It kept us in it in spite of how you know, poorly,
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  Speaker 10: you know, poor of a job I did for our group.
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  Speaker 10: But like I said, you know, I'm I'm really grateful
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  Speaker 10: for this group being able to find a way stick
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  Speaker 10: with it and be able to overcome some bad coaching
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  Speaker 10: by me tonight.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you'd like to have players who are coach
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  Speaker 5: and you know that you look at the history of
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  Speaker 5: Jordan Rodriy coaching up Sean McVeigh in the past. We
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  Speaker 5: had an opportunity to see that past success of paying
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  Speaker 5: off there and that is It's.
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  Speaker 2: True because I think you had a better question because
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  Speaker 2: it was Jordan asking him that question in that spot
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  Speaker 2: and he understood.
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  Speaker 1: It was a great answer.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, they get the ball back in the start
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  Speaker 2: of the fourth quarter, like once again, their defense gets
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  Speaker 2: the ball back. As as much as I want to
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  Speaker 2: credit the Bears defense and Dennis Allen for having an
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  Speaker 2: incredible game plan getting pressure throughout, Kevin Byerd actually told
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  Speaker 2: Kimberly Martin of ESPN before the game, their whole plan
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  Speaker 2: was to make Matthew Stafford one dimensional and make him
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  Speaker 2: throw the ball forty or fifty times.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we want to do.
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  Speaker 2: He said that before the game, you know, publicly, and
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  Speaker 2: that is kind of what they made him do.
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  Speaker 1: But the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: Defense kept getting the ball back as well. They force
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  Speaker 2: upon after half time, they intercept Caleb Williams late in
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  Speaker 2: the third quarter two they force another punt. That's when
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  Speaker 2: the Rams get the ball back at their own nine
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  Speaker 2: yard line and go on a fourteen play ninety one
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  Speaker 2: yard drive that included a lot of runs, yes, but
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  Speaker 2: a couple a third down conversion on a third and
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  Speaker 2: six to Pukinakua, and then there was that fourth down.
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  Speaker 2: And we're sitting in the newsroom and if you're watching,
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  Speaker 2: you can see the fourth and one play to Pukinnakua
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  Speaker 2: where it's like it's it's the call that the Rams
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  Speaker 2: go to all the time on fourth and one that
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  Speaker 2: sort of end around that pooka Akua gets the ball.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same one. Jordan and I talk about it
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  Speaker 2: all the time, and Patrick called it even before they
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  Speaker 2: lined up. Oh, they're going to hand it off to
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  Speaker 2: Pukaakua on this play. But you know what, they run
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  Speaker 2: a different little variation of it where he goes in
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  Speaker 2: motion past Stafford, reverses his field, goes back the other
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  Speaker 2: way and then does a good job breaking the tackle
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  Speaker 2: on thirty one.
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  Speaker 1: Who is that?
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  Speaker 2: That's byered in a big spot and it's crazy if
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  Speaker 2: you look Schuck. Over the last few years of Rams football,
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  Speaker 2: how many big moments are those wide receiver runs. And
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  Speaker 2: it was an up and down game for the Puka
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  Speaker 2: and Akua Matthew Stafford connection, like a lot of their
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  Speaker 2: like automatics just were not happening throughout the game. But
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  Speaker 2: then you think about that third down earlier in that drive.
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  Speaker 2: You think about a third down where he replaces where
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  Speaker 2: the blitz is coming from in overtime to Puka Nakua,
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  Speaker 2: and then that fourth down too, like in the end,
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  Speaker 2: the Puka Nakua Stafford connection ends up taking them home
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  Speaker 2: and just getting them over the finish line.
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  Speaker 4: And that's another part that's just so beautiful about football.
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  Speaker 4: It so much could depend on tape study. How much
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  Speaker 4: have you studied your opponent what they like to do
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  Speaker 4: in certain situations, and how do they play off of that,
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  Speaker 4: Because later in this game, they try to run, they
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  Speaker 4: try to show as that they're going to run an
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  Speaker 4: end around to Pooka again on a third and short
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  Speaker 4: and they motion into the right. Then they run a
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  Speaker 4: toss to the left and it gets blown up in
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  Speaker 4: the backfield after Kyraen Williams, but he breaks an initial
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  Speaker 4: tackle and then gets taken down right, And so it's that,
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  Speaker 4: but it's also you know, I see people online immediately
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  Speaker 4: after they convert that third down in overtime to Pooka.
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  Speaker 4: Why are you playing off coverage, you know, eight yards
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  Speaker 4: off when it's third and five? Well, because they're blitzing
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  Speaker 4: and the rams are just replacing where the defender left
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  Speaker 4: with the receiver for the first down. It's the back
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  Speaker 4: and forth. It's the what do I think is going
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  Speaker 4: to work here? What do we like to go to?
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  Speaker 4: What am I anticipating that they're doing? And it's so
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  Speaker 4: great that Sean McVay caught up to himself in time,
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  Speaker 4: because at the end of that touchdown drive to take
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  Speaker 4: a seventeen to ten lead, they show a shot of
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  Speaker 4: him on the sideline and he's visibly fired up, like
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  Speaker 4: let's freaking go that sort of thing, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, he really is reveling in this moment
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  Speaker 4: right now, because he's proud of himself for getting out
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  Speaker 4: of a bad game, flow, calling a really good drive
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  Speaker 4: and finally getting a step ahead of Dennis Allen after
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  Speaker 4: you spent the entire game on your back foot because
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  Speaker 4: Allen was dictating to you It's just a great thing
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  Speaker 4: about football.
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  Speaker 3: That's why these games are so special.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the the picture dictates so much of what the
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  Speaker 5: Rams do.
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  Speaker 9: It's base on the look.
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  Speaker 5: And to take that particular flow back from Dennis Allen
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  Speaker 5: and say, well, why don't why don't we take an
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  Speaker 5: opportunity to dictate here, because to me, it freed up
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  Speaker 5: a little bit of Stafford in the passing game because
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  Speaker 5: these like Kyler Gordon had the second most pressures on
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  Speaker 5: the Bears. Like the Bears time to their pressure, Wow,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of them was was less than less than
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  Speaker 5: three seconds, Like it was getting to Stafford so quickly
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  Speaker 5: where you can see it in the statistics that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: mcveigh's right, the flow of the game and the play
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  Speaker 5: calling wasn't on inside until it was.
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  Speaker 2: And then and you think about in terms of going
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  Speaker 2: with tempo late in the game. They also had a
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  Speaker 2: good drive at the end of the second quarter to
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  Speaker 2: get a field goal and that was when they had
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  Speaker 2: to go tempo a minute and ten seconds left in
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  Speaker 2: that game. And so that's sort of what I was
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  Speaker 2: getting at when I said the defense kept giving them
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  Speaker 2: chances for Sean McVay to kind of get out of
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  Speaker 2: that rut because the last the last drive of regular
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  Speaker 2: the drive after the Rams scored that touchdown a bit
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  Speaker 2: of a fiasco. The first drive of overtime you just
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  Speaker 2: mentioned one of the final plays on it, the toss
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  Speaker 2: that gets stuff look like it might lose them the
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  Speaker 2: game because they're giving the ball back up and all
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  Speaker 2: the Bears need to do is get a field goal.
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  Speaker 2: They were all in that position though, because of the play.
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  Speaker 2: Let's actually listen. Let's set up once again. It's seventeen
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  Speaker 2: to ten. Rams allow the Bears to drive down to
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  Speaker 2: the goal line, but like for much of the day,
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  Speaker 2: the Bears struggled inside the five yard line. We'll return
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  Speaker 2: to that in a second. They get all the way
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  Speaker 2: to fourth down until Caleb just takes it into his
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  Speaker 2: own hands.
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  Speaker 11: And it's fourth and four at the Ram fourteen and
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  Speaker 11: then begun is the quarterback Tayleb Williams looks into the nickel,
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  Speaker 11: arms out stretched, fourth down and four fourteen of the
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  Speaker 11: Rams shotgun snap goes back four.
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  Speaker 9: Four man rush.
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  Speaker 6: He's chased, he's flushed, he's.
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  Speaker 9: Hold the way back to the forty.
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  Speaker 11: He's back pedaling and fills the pass and the girls
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  Speaker 11: caught touchdown.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: Touchdown Chandos kind of touchdown pass.
• 16:11
  Speaker 11: Clift Cole come out open in the corner.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: If you hadn't seen it, you would not believe it.
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: Eighteen seconds left. He's a tendanodio.
• 16:25
  Speaker 9: That Soldier Field Stude's mad.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: It's a Marlond banger.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Another one the best love Kevin Harlan And yeah, I could.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I could watch that play forever.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: And and uh, look the way he kept running back
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: on that play.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: It reminded me of flag football a little bit.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Occasionally you'll see in these flag like middle school leagues
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: there's the one kid who's just way more athletic and
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: better than everyone, and that's the type of stuff that
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: you can do. Also reminds me a little bit of
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: techmost Super Bowl, if you haven't you know, a good quarterback,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: and you just start running backwards forever because you're you're faster.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Than he could do.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: But he's doing that against Jared Verse and Braden Fisk
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: and Kobe Turner and then turning around and Kobe Durant
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: would have been sick if they lose this game because
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: he loses comet at the last second. But for Caleb
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: to throw that ball kind of blind but kind of
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: knowing he's there and having the confidence to do it
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: like that looked like it was plan a Patrick. That
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: was kind of what he wanted to do.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just wanted to get enough time to have his
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: giant tight end match stuff with one of the smallest
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: people on the field and to have a weight room
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: moment in the back of the end zone where I
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: get Techmo super Bowl, I get a little game breaker
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: ninety eight. Yeah, with the way that all of Fisk
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: and Verse and Young's animations were the exact same in
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: Chason Caleb Williams reacting to his movements where it's I
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: mean he's laying on his back at the logo comet.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: That's just this ball where there's it's perfect. It's a
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: perfect moment.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: So this throw, you won't be surprised to know, was
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: the furthest completion on a throw made like the furthest
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: behind the line of scrimmage of any completion in the
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: NFL since the NGS era started like he went back
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: further and completed the pass more than any.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Throw in the NNGS era.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: It also was the longest completion of any red zone throw.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Not a surprise there in terms of air yards in
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the NNGS era. So that's just putting like a couple
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: of numbers on seeing fantastic play and Ben Johnson called
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: it just ridiculous afterwards. Now, in that moment, there's what
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: eighteen seconds left and it's seventeen to sixteen, do you
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: think that Ben Johnson should have gone for two shook?
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: And did you think you would?
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I would say I think that
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: he should have. I thought he was going to. I
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: definitely thought this is like the most aggressive coach in
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: the NFL. He comes from the Dan Campbelltree, one of
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: the most aggressive coaches in the NFL. But it was
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: also a great example of how within the game how
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: it can affect your decisions later because every time that
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: they went for it, whether it was in a goal
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: to go situation, they turned it over on downs twice
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: in this game, and the fourth and goal situation they
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: had earlier which led them to needing that throw. It
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: was a call that you know, it's a quick fire
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: pass and it gets broken up by Spates at the
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: goal line, and you're thinking, if that's your best play
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: call at that point, you probably have nothing left.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: So I understand why.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: You kick the pat you take it to overtime, you
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: think you're gonna ride the wave of momentum at home
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: into overtime and capitalize there. But I was a little
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: bit surprised, just knowing who he was, that he didn't
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: go for it, just because that's the type of coach
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: he is.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Totally understood why though. Don't disagree with it at all.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd said to Greg before the drive that this
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: is setting up for a two point conversion that we're
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: gonna have a chance to talk about for years. But
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: the explanation from coach Johnson makes perfect sense. It chooks
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: all over it. The play had already been run if
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: you go through like game winning two point conversion plays,
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: considering the stakes of the game, whatever they would have
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: run in that situation was probably already called.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't executed well. As he pointed out, he
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: was just saying, look, they weren't clean. He wishes he
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: had a better plan. Our goal to go plan just
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: wasn't great. And if you're watching again you can see
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: the video. By the way, I just want people to
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: see this that Stacy Dale's shot of the Caleb touchdown,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: which might be the finest reporter on the sideline, just
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: taping from their phone, hoping to get a little magic
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: moment every maybe the number one of the genre. Cole
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Comette just swinging for the home run right into Stacy Dale's.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: He was like, I'm gonna score a life changing touchdown.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Then I'm going to find Stacy Dale's and go right
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: into her phone.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: If you're watching on Sunday Night Football, you're thinking, wow,
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: co Comett went right to the Sunday Night Football camera
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: and hit his home run celebration.
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: No, that was Stacy. He was doing that celebration. App Yeah,
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: just just off screen.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Also Stacy great master of the zoom feature on an iPhone, right,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: like the little pull your thumb up, pull it down,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: zoom and in, zoom out at the perfect time, he'll
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: cook hit her up.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Whole thing is crazy.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: And I certainly don't blame Ben Johnson for not going
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: for two. And this is why press conference is, you know,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: asking for context is perfect. That all made sense, like
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: his answer for and ultimately he got the ball back
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: in overtime, his defense got a stop that might have
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: played into it. He thought, He's like, I felt like,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: you know, we could go win it in overtime, and
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: he was you know, he was right. He got the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: ball back, he gets all the way to midfield in overtime.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: And you do think about whether the fourth down decisions
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: too earlier in this game, you know, impacted Ben Johnson.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: So the Bears go three for six on fourth down
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: in this game. Now they get a touchdown in the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: first half because they go for it on fourth down
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: and then they get stopped another time.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: You know that that's a net win. You get seven points.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Seven's better than the two, it's greater than then you
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: have a goal line stop of DeAndre Swift on third down.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: That was a really fascinating sequence. When the Bears are
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: driving late in regulation, it's their second, it's their drive
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: before that one. They get to the goal line and
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: there's a back to back play sequence with DeAndre Swift
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: trying to get in and then a stop on fourth
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: down that that could have possibly like been a James
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Harrison type of play for Omar Spates. What were you
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: thinking about, like what the Rams defense was going to
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: do there? Just in general, like why was it, why
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: was it? Why were they like what did the Rams
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: do specifically? I guess if you saw anything in this
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: game because their defense did a great job too, and
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: deserves a lot of credit for slowing down this Bears
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: attack on the ground.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the goal line, and this is a Bears team
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: that runs pretty violently inside the five when they do
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: commit to the run on the goal line, like it's
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: worked against other teams in the past, and this time around,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: they kind of twist Swift down short of the goal
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: line by I think two yards on second down. Third down,
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: it looks like he's gonna make it with the toss,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: but the Bear successfully string it out. He tries to
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: go for the hurdle, then he gets blasted. Quinton Lake
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: flies in out of nowhere, so if you're watching on YouTube,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: you can see it right now. He gets strung out
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: by Verse. He tries to hurdle over in next defender.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Then Quinton Lake flies in out of nowhere and blasts
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: him out of the air to send him down to
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: the ground still short of the goal line. He's gained
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: nothing there, and at that point you're thinking, Okay, if
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: you're trying to commit to running the ball, you believe
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: you can run the ball here into the end zone,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: You're probably out of options going unto fourth down, I
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: don't know why kylem anun guy wasn't more involved. He's
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: the more violent runner of the two. But you can
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: always you know, Hindsight's twenty twenty. I thought the fourth
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: down play was curious at best. It was it was
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: basically like what you would call a spacing concept where
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: you get you know, guys in kind of a bunch
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: of formations. Somebody comes inside and runs a little like
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: hitch on the inside, and you just fired in there
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: in a tight window, but space was all over it.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: It's a great play by the Rams defense, and at
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: that point you've exhausted all of the Bears goal line plays,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: including probably the two point conversion, which is why I
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: had such a major effect on the outcome of the game,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: because then they get down there with the miraculous catch
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: and they can't do anything to go win the game.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: They just have to settle for the pat which is
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: perfectly fine.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of those Particularly like the granular aspects
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: of that play, because they pulled Jordan McFadden, the left
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: guard on the other side on that shotgun hand off
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: to Swift where maybe you think he can go inside
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: of McFadden's block. He trusts himself to be able to
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: get to the end zone. Then he's got Darius Williams.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: He can't see Quinton Lake coming on the backside. You know,
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: in hindsight and looking at the broadcast forew you're thinking, well,
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: if he takes Darius Williams corner to the pylon, I
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: think DeAndre Swift gets there, but he sees the shortest
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: route being there, not knowing that Lake was on the
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: outside of his block in the first place, which is
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: probably why he could have gone inside in the first way.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: It did feel like Detroit Lions DeAndre Swift showed up
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: for one play because if he just didn't jump, he
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: just lower lowered his shoulder like he's falling inside the
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: one I think at the at the worst. But but
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the way they defended that, And yeah, there were so
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: many defensive plays by the Rams during this game which
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: kept him in it. But more than anything, it was
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: the secondary like Cam curl gets an absolutely massive interception
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: in overtime. Here is Cam Curle talking after the game. Uh,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: with NBC picks for.
• 25:30
  Speaker 11: Your boy, Kobe Durant, how were you all able to
• 25:32
  Speaker 11: read Caleb Williams so well tonight, man?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: You know, just just playing together.
• 25:36
  Speaker 12: Man.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: We trust each other.
• 25:37
  Speaker 13: Man.
• 25:38
  Speaker 14: And you know we heard we had a little noise,
• 25:40
  Speaker 14: you know in the win about our secondary.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: You know they were hating on us.
• 25:42
  Speaker 15: But you know, we can't to show them what we
• 25:43
  Speaker 15: can do.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: We make plays back there.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Man, we win games for the team. What'd you hear?
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: Man?
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I ain't will and you don't give him no no airtime.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: But we heard it though, and that's why we played
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: like that. We wanna continue to play like that.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: That's that's me. I'm sorry, Chicago. I motivated the Rams
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: secondary to play extra hard. I thought maybe the Bears
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: could exploit some size advantages, and considering the the Kobe
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: Durant play with cool commit it appears that happened.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: But we've been talking about the Rams dbs being especially
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: the cornerbacks, being potentially their achilles heel all season. I
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: do want to show that Cam Curle interception in overtime
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: because I think it's going to be a controversial, you know,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: play for a long time in Chicago. After the game,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams said that it was a miscommunication that he
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: thought DJ Moore was going to flatten out the route
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: a little more, but more went vertical. Some other people
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: shooky saying Dj Moore kind of quiet quit on a
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: route at the biggest spot in overtime. What was your
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: your read on that? Just a fantastic play by the
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: way by Curl like that often is the difference in
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: these games is like a defensive back or defensive player
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: just like making the damn play. But it was not
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: a great Dj Moore moment and probably the last moment
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: of him in a Bear's uniform.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think this is that both things can
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: be true situation because let's think about it from DJ
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Moore's perspective, You're running that route, it's a deep over
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: and you're thinking, all right, this safety is here. I'm covered,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Like I'm not gonna get the ball because I'm covered,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Whereas Caleb's thinking flatten out, adjust to where the dB is.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: He doesn't, so he does kind of quit on the play.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: But also it's a great play made by the defensive back,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: and it's just a bit of a misunderstanding between quarterback
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: and receiver.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: And sometimes that just happens. It's just that it happened
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: to be the.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: It happens with.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: It happens with DJ Moore a lot it really is
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: probably why he's gonna be gone. Yeah, it's it's unfortunate
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: because look, that's I am more amazed by quarterbacks and
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: wide receivers being able to cite a just just as
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: a regular part of that's just how the NFL is played,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: like on an every down basis. I'm more amazed by
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: that than almost anything, Like even more than all the athletics.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: It seems insane that that works. It's always worked, so,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: like I I get it that it's it's a high
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: degree of difficulty situation.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: But unfortunately, I think Caleb had it read, you know right.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: And it's interesting because they get the ball back there
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: in overtime after a pretty regrettable drive by the Rams,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: and they get it all the way to midfield.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is scrambling.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Later in the game, Caleb Williams is making a lot
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: of really great, high level throws. They're at midfield at
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: this point. I think Rams fans are thinking, like, this
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: game's probably over. They need one first down to get
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: in Cairo Santos's field goal rent and instead they're kind
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: of big game hunting, and that's how the Rams end
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: up moving on.
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and Caleb's aggressive.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: That's that's why, that's why they were in this part
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: in this game in the first place. You know, it
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: has happened a lot with DJ Moore. I feel like
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: the fact that it was you know, route number fifty
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: eight for DJ Moore and the accumulation of you know,
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: DJ is not a smallish wide receiver to be you know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: playing that that volume of play, not to make excuse
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: for it, but just to highlight, you know, some of
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: the factors that go into that where he's, like you said,
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: he's not necessarily looking. If he's looking, I think it's
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: a little bit different. But didn't didn't see the ball,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: saw something different than Caleb did. And this is a
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: couple of plays after Caleb runs directly into Landman on
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: a first down run where you know, he's like t
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: bow powering it down the field for the Chicago Bears.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: And I know, you know, hindsight being absolutely flawless as
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: it always is going to be. Folks wanted some more
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: runs there, but people wanted runs when they were passes.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: It's we could find me everything. We had a tom machine.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Caleb was even though he threw three picks.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I just have so much more confidence in him than
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I even did six weeks ago. I think he was
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: just improving on a week to week basis. Some of
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: the hole shots in this game, there was the one
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: to a Donze late in the fourth quarter that that
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: he hit, but there were there were a couple like that.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: On that one actually, Colston Lovelin.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: By the way, Ali Connelly texted me to point, make
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: sure you give Colston Loveland his credit for block and
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Jared Verse.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: One on one.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Sometimes tight ends can block the defensive end. It's not
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: always a problem, and it's true on that play, and
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Caleb had a few plays like that to Adunze, to Moore,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: who did have five catches in this game, including a
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: touchdown to Loveland. But I did think like a problem
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: from them in this game was like the Bears receivers
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: weren't always making the plays for him. I think there
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: were two to three clear drops. Loveland definitely had one
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: or two, and then there was probably like four or
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: five more that would have been tough, but you could
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: have made the play for him. We'll talk about the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Patriots in a second. Their receivers were making plays. The
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: defensive backs for the Rams were making plays. Kobe Durant
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: with two of them. They weren't easy ones. And yeah,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: like I'm not going to like attribute it to anything
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: magical other than they just made it happen in the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: end in a game that could not have been any closer.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: And I think to your point in the I think
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: for a lot of the game it almost looked like
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the Bears were the better team in the snuck it out.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is kind of what it felt like. But
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: I also think that you're right in that they could
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: have made some plays. I think about a deep shot
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: to Luther Burden that gets broken up by a great
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: play by a Rams defensive back, and you think, oh,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: maybe a bigger receiver or more experienced receiver, a stronger
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: receiver makes that play and that changes, you know, the
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: course of the game.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: But it's also this game.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: You know, on Caleb's three interceptions, we just talked about
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: the last one, but there was also one earlier where
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: it felt like maybe there was another misunderstanding. And it's
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: a feather in the Kapa Krushula, the defensive coordinator for
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: the Rams, for the way that he disguises coverage. They
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: come out showing man coverage across the board and it
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: looks like the receiving corps and Caleb both believe that
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: it's man coverage, and instead he goes to the corner
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: route to Luther Burton and Kobe Durant's right there drifting
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: back in zone coverage to pick it off and take
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: away the idea of a possible whole shot because you think,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: all right, Burden's running the corner rout, he's got the
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: advantage on outside leverage over the safety, but he never
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: sees Durant back there because he thinks Durant's running with
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: the receiver who cuts inside from the outside, and he's.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Never going to be there.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: And that's why it's beautiful that the Rams can get
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: away with things like this, or at least accomplished things
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: like this defensively. It's just to Feather and the Kappa
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Chris Shula and an example of why football is so
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: much of a chess match in such an in game
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: reaction thing. And for Caleb, being a second year quarterback,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: done so many great things you talk about over the
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: last six weeks. I go all the way back to
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: the Raider game, way back in Week four, when he
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: led them back. That was the first step in him
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: becoming this clutch player. He did it so many times
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: this season, but it is another example of why we
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: have to remind ourselves he is only in his second
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: year and he will learn from things like this.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: There was a moment in the game where Collinsworth was
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: maybe speculating that Loveland runs the wrong route on the
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: adjustment there and could have taken up more space vertically
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: to occupied Durant so that there's more freedom to get
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: that ball to.
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: Luther Burden.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: But a great play, a great call by defense of
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: as you said, Greg, one team made plays when the
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: ball was in the air and the other did.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: And look, I think Colston Loveland ended up suffering a
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: concussion in this game. He did not finish the game.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson did confirm that afterwards. You hate to see that.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Just shout out to Kevin Dotson and this running game
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: in this offensive line that you know, we'll have all
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: week to talk about what they need to do in Seattle.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: But the running game, Look, it's it's not as easy
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: as just saying you got to run the ball more
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: and then and then it works like you got to
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: have the players to actually execute that. On a day
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: where they almost use no heavy personnel. They were basically
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: in three wide receivers the whole game, almost treating Jordan
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Whittington as a tight end and or you know, sometimes
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: it was Mumpfield.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: But they did not go heavy.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: And for what it's worth, the few plays that they did,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: it did not go very well for them. And when
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: they needed to run that, their offensive line really road graded.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: And just we're getting four five yard chunks. Let's let's wrap. Actually,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: just given the Rams some credit and by listening to
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Sean McVay talk about what they were going up against today, and.
• 33:56
  Speaker 10: That's what it's about. You know, there's no style points.
• 33:58
  Speaker 10: It's about being able to survive in advance. And we
• 34:00
  Speaker 10: were able to do that in a tough, hostile environment.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: And it was coldish today, and uh, yeah, they got
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: they got through.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Uh the West Coast team, they can they can win
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: in the cold. Uh probably won't be as cold in
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Seattle next week.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Whew, let's uh, let's take a break.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, the most surprising thing all Sunday for me
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: was not the moment that Caleb Williams uh through that pass.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: It was the moment that Eric got in my ear
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: and told me we've already gone twenty five minutes.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, what, I feel like we've all been
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: talking for like five it started minutes.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break and we're gonna come back
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: and we're gonna talk about the AFC matchup between Drake
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: May and that Texans.
• 34:44
  Speaker 15: Defense steps us over the right guard.
• 34:55
  Speaker 14: Here comes a four man washed By stands and throws
• 34:58
  Speaker 14: a long bull if he's on the right supper King Shawn.
• 35:00
  Speaker 12: We unders Patriots. I'm coming after we has regained a
• 35:10
  Speaker 12: two score league?
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: What's up? How's the hell of the problem sorted for?
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: They walk Henderson up, they're telling the Touxis we're flowing it.
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: Trek Masons, I don't care.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Poor Zolac. I mean, Eric's just sick of hearing him.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: He's like, that's enough, Solac, that's Bob Socie. That's the
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: final score in a twenty eight to sixteen Patriots victory.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: New England is moving on to the AFC Championship game
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: in Denver. It was all building up to the Jarrett
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Stidham revenge game all along.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: What a sentence. We can talk about that later in
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the week. First we got to talk about this game.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Similar to how Matthew Stafford's defense kept getting the ball
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: back to Stafford.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: The Patriots defense kept getting it back with turnovers. CJ.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Stroud and the Texans turn it over five times. And
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: you can only keep this Patriots big play offense down
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: for so long. They did throw three touchdown passes, first
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: quarterback all season to do that against the Houston Texans.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: It wasn't pretty shook on a play by play basis,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: but I was impressed by May and the receiver's ability
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: to make something big happen in Spurts, you know what
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like they just needed someone to make big
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: plays in Kashan Boody and Stefan Diggs and May in
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Spurts made enough of them to get out of there
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: in just an ugly game there in the cold rain
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: and the snow.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're establishing a bit of a theme
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: with the Patriots postseason journey because that was kind of
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: the story of the Charger game as well, is the
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: throw to Hunter Henry to get the touchdown to essentially
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: seal that victory. And we got that three or four
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: times today, which was the throw to Booty that you
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: just heard that we just played there. But it was
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: also an earlier throw to Booty on third down where
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: he forces it in a tight window for a game
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: of seventeen or eighteen, that sets up the tight window
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: throw to Stefan Diggs in the end zone for a touchdown.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: And yes, May is not lighting up the stat sheet.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: He finishes with one hundred and seventy nine yards passing
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: sixteen to twenty seven. But with those three touchdowns, you
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: don't have to when you get short fields because your
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: defense is playing better than it has all year. It's
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: very opportunistic and outside of your own stripsack issues against
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: a couple of good pass rushes who are totally taking
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: the advantage of a rookie at left tackle and Will Campbell,
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: you're not committing, you know, egregious turnovers that are costing
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: you the game, and you're capitalizing on the most of
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: the opportunities that you're getting, and that's what's gotten them
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: now to the AFC Championship game. The question is, well
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: that formula stand the test of another week. We'll find out,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: But through two games hasn't been stellar, but he's been
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: good when he's needed to be good, and that's what's
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: mattered most.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to evaluate because look, he fumbled the
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: ball four times.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Drake made today and lost it twice.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I think two were really on him and two you know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: the pressure's pretty quick there from the blind side. The
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: reason I kind of started with that play was Ultimately,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: this game was insane. First of all, I mean, there
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: are eight turnovers in the game, and they all happened.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: You know, I think in the first three quarters, in
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: those five turnovers, how many points do you think the
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Patriots scored off those off the how much the offense
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: scored off the turnovers.
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: I believe it was zero points zero.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: They got to pick six, but an offense, they didn't
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: do anything with any of them. The three touchdowns that
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: they got were actually like full field normal drives where
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: they just suddenly popped up for like a sixty five
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: seventy year old drive, which against his Texans defense, you'll take. Ultimately,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I think what people are going to remember more from
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: this game is what happened on the other side of
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: the ball with CJ.
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: Stroud.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just just say a cataclysm of errors where you
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: wonder about the early you know, we've had every single
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: quarterback I feel like in the playoffs injure their hand
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: on a follow through at some point. It happens early
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: for CJ Stroud. There was the wintry mix, there was
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: the notable absence of Nico Collins coming into the game
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: out with the brain injury, and then they lose Dalton Schultz,
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: who was apparently the entire plane was constructed game plan
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: wise out of Dalton Schultz, and combined with the worst
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: CJ Stroud game since last week's worst c J Stroud game,
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: it all led to this just kind of a waste
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: of a great defensive performance by the Houston Texans because
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: you talk about all three of those touchdown passes, if
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken, other than the Kaishawn Booty one hander,
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: because that was the only place anybody was going to
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: get a hand on the ball. The Texans got hands
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: on both of those touchdown passes. Bullet got a full
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: palm on the ball that was caught by Pop Douglas,
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: where he makes a great adjustment late to catch that
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: ball that was deflected, not like a full deflection, but
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: enough that we bothered some people. So he goes into
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: the end zone there and you could see Stefan Diggs's
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: fingers impressing on the football because he's able to hold
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: on to that touchdown pass where that was the level
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: of difficulty that was required for the Patriots to score
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: points today. And then you know Hunter and Anderson. I
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: get like the frustrations with Will Campbell and the Patriots front.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: They're getting everybody, but they're doing up everybody at this point.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: And that's gonna happen with Drake May. He's gonna have
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: deep drops and look down the field and try to
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: make plays. Maybe not the team that you want to
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: do that against, but they kind of checked that.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Down late in the second right, they started just getting
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: the ball out of his hands on some of the
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: third and longs. I hear what you're saying. But here's
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: just a little stat from next Gen stats. Will Anderson
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: and a Dafeoe are the only two players in the
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: history of the postseason to get three sacks and two
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: forced fumbles in the same game. And they do have,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: uh a commonality, which is a you know this, Campbell
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: and May are the two kind of problem And look, mate,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: there might be a little bit of like a we
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: might be on hand size in the cold weather watch
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: a little bit with Drake May.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: You're rolling your eyes.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if you get Bobbin out there or maybe Wimby, Yeah,
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: and have them hold the ball with giant hands and
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: have de Neil Hunters sweat like it's not necessarily gonna go.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: No, it's if you were gonna get on the hand
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: side stuff. Maybe maybe it's when he fumbles it rushing
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: earlier in the game that that was.
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: You know, there was a they were playing in a
• 41:33
  Speaker 9: slushy mo.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Either way it was it was tough to make plays
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: there on offense. Certainly, you mentioned that Douglas fourth down play.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Let's actually listen to that because I think that was
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: a big early moment where Josh McDaniels and Mike Freebele
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: decide to go for it on fourth down. Instead instead
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: of just you know, quote unquote taking the points against
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: a great defense, they decided to go for it on
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: fourth down.
• 41:58
  Speaker 14: To what to receivers Jovin White, including Douglas. He's looking
• 42:02
  Speaker 14: that way. He's throwing Douglas next catch the touchdown.
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: I just say, no, buddy, on punf Douglas, I get
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: it great, So you get it in bad coverage he
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: comes to blitz. Think of cover with fourth and one.
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: Patiently your quarterback.
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: They pick here waits, Douglas clears the underneath coverage, and
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: then it's off to the racist. He's been nowhere this
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: last month. The buck doesn't just get you on the
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: court early.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Uh again.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Uh So, why do you gotta say he's been nowhere
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: this last month? I mean he's he's been in Foxborough
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: practicing with the Patriots, but.
• 42:43
  Speaker 9: You know he's he's like like taking a shot at
• 42:45
  Speaker 9: Foxboro the.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Fourth wide receiver.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I thought the game management like it wasn't perfect by
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: the Patriots, but I do think like the kind of
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: routine that that Josh McDaniels got in on a couple
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: different drives going for it there on fourth how they
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: handled kind of the end of half situation, different situations
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: compared to how Damiko Ryans and the Texans handled a
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: lot of their decision making and their ability to kind
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: of stay composed and timeouts and pre snap penalties things
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: like that that I think that was a difference. And
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I was kind of thinking about how Mike Grabel said
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: going into the year, like the first thing we got
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: to do is find out how to not beat ourselves,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: like let the other teams beat themselves. And I did
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: feel like at times on Sundays Shook that the Texans
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: were beating themselves.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's an identify your strengths going into
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: the game and try to lean on that sort of
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: situation for both of these teams. And if you're the Patriots,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: you're looking at that opportunity early and you're thinking, how
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: many times are we going to get down here and
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: really have a real shot at scoring a touchdown against
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: this defense? Probably not very often, even you know, we
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: talked about how they didn't cash in those turnovers for points.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: That's kind of an example of what they expected. But
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: in that moment, early enough in the game, you feel
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: yourself having a little bit of strength forth and one,
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: We've got to get the right call, and you just
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: narrowly get it past Kaalen Bullock and ends up producing
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: a touch down. That's the risk that you take in
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: a playoff game and you hope that it pays off.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: And it did for them there. But you're right, and
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: I thought it was most telling in the fourth quarter
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: not to speed ahead to that point. But there's like
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: four and a half minutes left in the game and
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: the Texans are down twelve points, and Demiko Ryans is
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: like I'm gonna punt because much like the Steeler game
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: proved itself to be, the Texans defense probably had a
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: better chance of scoring than the Texans offense did at
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: that point because he knew that was their strength, their defense,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: and it's it is unfortunate because this is a defense that,
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: had they gotten all the way to the Super Bowl,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: had an opportunity to go to go down among some
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: of the best of this century. Like I'm thinking two thousands,
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: the two thousand Ravens, the two Buccaneers, the thirteen Seahawks,
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: the fifteen Broncos. That could have been this Texans defense.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: But because the offense was so bad, none of it
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: ends up really being really mattering, ends up being a
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: footnote in the greater picture.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: This is unfair, but I think if they were those defenses,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: they would have been one of those defenses, you know
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, that's okay, you're talking about the
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: greatest defenses of all time. Yeah, that's an unfair The
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: bar was so fa had to be one of those defenses,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I think to go on this run. But I think
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: if they were one of those defenses, they would have
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: been one of those defense kind of you know, it's like, yeah,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: the line from the if if you were the one
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: that invented face, just remembering those defenses, if you were
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: the one that wo had invented Facebook, you would have
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: invented Facebook. Like they still gave up, They still gave
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: up the three like touchdowns.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: Yes, but also consider the flow of the game and
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: the fact that their offense was getting them nothing and
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: they were constantly on the field, Like time possession was
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: only five minute different about four and a half minute difference.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: But if you when we watched this game in real time,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: it felt like the Texans were constantly finding themselves trotting
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: back on the field tasked with doing the same thing
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: you just got off the field doing, which was stopping
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: a Patriots offense that had the potential to put points
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: on the board.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. The bar was like insanely
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: unfairly high. And one of the big reasons the Patriots
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: won this game was fumble luck that when Daniel Hunter
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: stripsack Drake May near the goal line early in the game,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: he didn't fall on it, like he was so close.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: That could have been seven points. When Will Anderson had
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: a strip sack in the third quarter. He didn't fall
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: on it, and that's just that's more luck than anything.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: And so maybe that's a fair point that it's complimentary,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: but it's not like they were on the field playwise
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: that much. Actually, the Texans had more plays. The Texans
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: made it to the red zone four times. The Patriots
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: only did it once. The problem was, as you mentioned, Shook,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: that when they hit plays like they kind of hit
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: him in a row and they hit big plays. We
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: actually have like a shot of you know, Kayshun Booty
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: dusted Derek Stingley Junior. You know, I wouldn't say he
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: dusted him for this touchdown, but his very first touchdown
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: for Drake May in his entire career was from basically
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: the same spot on the field, little in front of
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: the forty and he beats Derek Stingley clean and he
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: scores a touchdown there. Kamari Lassiter got beat off the
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. They didn't hit that shot to Kyle Williams,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I mean Kyle Williams in this game, but Stingly had
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: another pass interference penalty. It's the bar was like so
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: unfairly high that they just had to like shut them
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: down but they didn't force field goals is kind of
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: what I'm getting at, like that they needed to force
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: field goals and not give up touchdowns.
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and they got got.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: You know, good defenses can get got, especially when they're
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: put in disadvantageous situations where there's the accumulation of dealing
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: with what they were having to watch, the amount of
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: times they were having to run immediately back on the field.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: Great plays by Drake May and this Patriots team. I
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: think it's a little more difficult now to have because
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: we talk about those defenses of old. I think that
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: the game has changed to a capacity we're probably never
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: going to see that level of defense and as well
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: as keeping teams. We talk two thousand Ravens going through
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: that playoff runhe I don't think anybody got twenty points.
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: I don't know that we're getting there.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Again, that's fair, and the Patriots defense did score in
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: this game. As we mentioned earlier. Let's actually listen to
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: the pick six by Marcus. I think this was the
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: biggest play in the game because, you know, to bring
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: it back to this point that the Texans are winning
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: at this point, you know, CJ. Stroud did put together
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: a pretty good touchdown drive to go up ten to seven.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: So they had scored ten points unanswered. They had, they
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: really had. Drake May looking rattled early in this game.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: But they get the ball back the Texans too, and
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: that is time for the tech the Patriots to score.
• 48:20
  Speaker 15: CJ scrubb in.
• 48:21
  Speaker 14: A tight formation two by two, so he well baptist
• 48:24
  Speaker 14: chuck playfake whould like is an nearside receiver.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Held out and scrub throws it up in the air finascepted.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Marcus Jones ride twenty fifteen to ten.
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: Jones just tackled by Hundredson takes him to the pummel
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: one chuck shot up, takes a head tracks, look at it.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: It's nuts again, look on it nuts, I do come
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: Prush her off the edge contact and the ball goes
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: pumped up right in here and finally we get it
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: off the deflection. There's been three times in the first
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: quarter balls have gone up deflected and all the crowd.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Joe picks it up and rept his history.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Does the burn old decision by Stroud one of four
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: for first half interceptions, you know one of them.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: The throw is a little high. Who was that off
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: of Higgins?
• 49:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah? No, it was Hutchinson.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Hutchinson like that one was kind of you know a
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: little on both of them. The others were more about
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: the decisions rather than the execution. But it didn't seem
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: like he had a lot of open receivers in this game.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: I play like that though, and you got to you
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: gotta find a way to dirt it or just take
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: the sack.
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, But it's also a microcosm of the Texans twenty
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: twenty five season on offense where the operation was weird.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: You have you had Bryant in because Schultz had already
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: gotten hurt at this point, He's coming across in motion.
• 49:42
  Speaker 9: The tackle steps back, trips him, so he goes down.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: That there was Stiln Williams kind of pushed it. He
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: gets a little bit of an assist.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: On that play.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: Yet, but there were just so many plays in this
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: Texan season where the balls being snapped and bounce passes
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: to CJ. Stroud, where their spin move handoffs to the
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: wrong person, the defensive toe guys getting weird touchdown opportunities
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: were This was something that is happening all season for
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: the Texans, and the Patriots were able to take it.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: What he marks ran for seventeen yards on fourteen carries.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: They also had the Texans classic, an illegal formation inside
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: the five yard line that took a touchdown off the
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: board on I think the first drive of the game,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: like there were you.
• 50:21
  Speaker 9: Have a defensive tackle at fullback.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: So so it was And you mentioned the injuries to
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Schultz and Nico. Don't forget Trent Brown, who's been so
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: important for them, was inactive for this game. He got
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: hurt last week. I was a little bit surprised he
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: was inactive. And then Titus Howard, who was helping to
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: replace him. I mean, he's a starter, but they moved
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: the whole line around. He gets hurt in this game too,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: so they're down a couple offensive lines, so there was
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: a lot going against him. Let's actually listen to Demico
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Ryans asking or asked after the game about, you know,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: backing his quarterback that the man that he entered Houston
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: with no c J is our guy.
• 51:01
  Speaker 9: I believe that.
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: He could come back out in the second half and
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: flip it. I believe that he could play better, and
• 51:10
  Speaker 7: he did that in the second half. He did play better.
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: We had some positive drives there in the second half.
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: Is I believe that he would do that, and he
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: did that.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: H Let's also listen to CJ. Stroud after the game
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: after one of his if not most most difficult nights
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: as a pro.
• 51:30
  Speaker 13: I'm a pretty self confident person. I think, you know,
• 51:33
  Speaker 13: when they started to pile up, I try my best
• 51:35
  Speaker 13: to you know, stay you know, locked in in the
• 51:37
  Speaker 13: spirit and you know, realizing I you know, I just
• 51:40
  Speaker 13: got to be there for my teammates and they encouraged
• 51:42
  Speaker 13: me a lot through it. So I'm really appreciative of
• 51:44
  Speaker 13: this team and you know, them doing that because they
• 51:46
  Speaker 13: don't have to. But yeah, it was it was, you know,
• 51:48
  Speaker 13: not not easy and something that I'm learned from and
• 51:51
  Speaker 13: you know, you know, just grateful what my teammates are
• 51:53
  Speaker 13: picking me up.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I'm always a CJ. Stroud believer. He's gonna have to
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: wear this.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: This offseason shook kind of where are you at with
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: with Stroud after this third season and especially like how
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: it ended these last two weeks.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you have to look at his career
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: in totality from this point because of how good he
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: was as a rookie, and you have to think what
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: changed last year. They had a terrible offensive line, he
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: had over fifty sacks taken, and that was obviously a
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: need for them. Going to the offseason, they felt like
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: they had improved it and it showed in the sack numbers.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: They cut that in half. But Stroud was still a
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: little inconsistent when it came to just delivering. And we
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: saw in some games like the late season game against
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: the Chargers, where they were good for the big play,
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: like if he had time to throw, he'd find a
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: guy downfield and you know, produce explosives, and they did
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: that a lot down the second half of the season
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: once Stroud came back to replace Davis Mills. But ultimately,
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: once you lose a couple of guys in a playoff game,
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: you see the same offensive line regress back to where
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: it was last year. And he has been under pressure
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: for so long now that I feel like they've kind
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: of broken him a little bit mentally, and he needs
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: an offseason to kind of reset. He needs to be
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: told that I can trust this often of line and
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: I don't have to go be the hero and make
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: the superhero play that results in saw all the turnovers
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: we saw against Pittsburgh, when we saw against New England today,
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: So I think that's a big part of it too.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: But also I'm a little concerned about his accuracy over
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: the long term, like to the point where Akman's like
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: his hands got to be hurt or something. Because even
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: on the touchdown pass he throws to Christian Kirk in
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: this game, it's on the wrong shoulder, like he was
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: missing placement all game, and he'd been doing that for
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: a little bit, you know, against Pittsburgh as well. He
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: had some bigger throws in that game. But it makes
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: me think that is your greatest attribute is your accuracy.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: That's what made you special coming out of Ohio State.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: That's what made you special as a rookie. If that's gone,
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: you got bigger problems at hand. And unfortunately the season
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: ends in this fashion and now all he's going to
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: have to try to tune out for the entire offseason
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: is is he the future the Texans need to look
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: somewhere else when maybe he just needs an offseason to reset.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's not nearly as encouraging as it was
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: two years ago, and I understand why people would question
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: his outlook now.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Look I don't I'm shocked that Texans fans are jumping off.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I shouldn't be shocked every fan
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: jumps off the quarter back when they struggle big time.
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: There were't a lot of people calling for Mitch Rubisky.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Yesterday, right, CJ go is twenty for forty seven in
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: this game. The context of what happened, especially last year,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: is important, and certainly this year it hasn't been perfect either,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: but he's also just become an erratic quarterback in a
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: way that like I believed he was like real deal truth,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: and I still think he can because I one thing
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: I'll always believe if you show that level at the
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: NFL level, you can do it, like.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: You can you can get back to that.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: But there have been a lot of times this season
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: when the situation actually I think has been fine, like
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: within a game, certainly within plays, and that he has
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: done things that have been confounding. That he's just been
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: more erratic on a play to play, drive to drive,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: quarter to quarter, game to game basis where I'm I'm
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: never quite sure like where it's coming, and sometimes he'll
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: get in a rhythm and you'll be like, damn, that's
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: one of the best thing is that's one of the
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: best quarterbacks in the league because he does the hard
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: stuff really well, but sometimes and I know the weather
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I think was a huge factor in this game. I
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: think the Patriots defense has gotten way better as the
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: season's gone on, and they were a huge factor in
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: this game. But they need to go back to the
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: drawing board because I don't think it's I don't think
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: you can just put it all on everything around him.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: There's some there's something that was going on this year.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I think, even in good situations, that almost concerned me
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: more than than what happened last year.
• 55:39
  Speaker 14: I think.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I think on balance it was a little more unsettling.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: But for the Texans, they're not They're not gonna question anything,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: like they're gonna pick up his fifth year option. He's
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: he's contract extension eligible.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: What what it might do is it just might prevent
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: them from giving him his monster contract now, which frankly
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I think is like that that's the breaks. It's a
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: five you're a rookie contract. You don't have to get
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: the contract after three years. But they might they might
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: try to save some money on giving it to him now,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Like that's not to decide right now, and.
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: I think that'd be preposterous at this point, and I
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: just like, I think the folks calling for Davis Mills
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: in this game, we're a touch preposterous considering what CJ
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: has been able to do.
• 56:20
  Speaker 9: I think, like, looking at the evidence, what.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Do you think it's preposterous? Though, I mean, he it's
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: a five year rookie contract. As long as you pick
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: up that fifth year option. I don't think it's preposterous
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: to just be like, okay, go players, I think you're.
• 56:30
  Speaker 9: To get cute with it.
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: You can save the money and go ahead and sign
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: him to a deal after after a bad playoff performance,
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: right versus saying, oh, all right, well we're gonna we're
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: gonna play hardball here. Take this all the way at
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: the end. And you you look at a quarterback circumstance
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: league wide and you're like, oh, well, this CJ. Stroud
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: guy is pretty effective. And now you're you're a year
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: behind the sticks and and everything. Where like we we saw,
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: you know, Jerry do that with Dak. We've seen that
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: with with a couple of quarterback contract situations where I
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: want to just go ahead and get it done, especially
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: in a situation where late in this game, you have
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: Hutchinson on spa lane, and he's opened by four yards,
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: there's nobody around CJ. Stroud, and he leaves the ball
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: six yards short. Like I think you could take like
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: this was especially bad. Yeah, And I think we can
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: just jump this and trash it and not say that
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: this is evidence to the long term viability of CJ.
• 57:23
  Speaker 9: Stroud as a football player.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: I think if you're going to get that deal done, though,
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: you have to do so with the intent to try
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: to improve the situation around him, because we also need
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: to consider the fact that they made Bobby Slow their
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: scapegoat last year and changed offensive coordinators and didn't I mean,
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: I guess they acknowledge that their offensive line was bad
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: and they tried to improve it, but I don't think
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: they got any better play call Jim mark Kley in
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: his first year. Like that's not enough, right, So if
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: you're going to do that, you got to marry it,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: and you got to also understand that I think he's
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: dealing with some residual effects from what he went through
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: last year, and you got to bring him back to
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: like reset and get back to who he is if
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: you're going to give him that contract. But you could
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: buy low coming off of this game, which could help
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: your franchise in the salary.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Cap for the long term, but that's fair.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: But he does have two years left to be clear,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: so it's not like they're taking They would be taking
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: it down to the wire. We'll probably be hitting on
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: this during the offseason. The crazy thing is looking at
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: the next gen stats right now, it's like they actually
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: had a slightly higher success rate than the Patriots in
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: this game.
• 58:15
  Speaker 9: Now.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Obviously Drake Mango's for way more yards for attempt because
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: he hits. He hits some big ones, but they were
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: both were going up against good defenses. I think kind
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: of the takeaway is like, look, the Patriots also forced
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: these these turnovers, they forced the field goals. And I
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: do think Demiko is such a good coach in so
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: many ways, such a great defensive coach. You got to
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: have answers on how to help your offense, and you've
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: got to have better answers in game management. Like they
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: blew and this is on the entire operation, not necessarily
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: just him. They blew two timeouts in the second half.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: They did that punt that you mentioned, which was the
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: worst surrender punt I've ever seen.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: So someone went and checked you're making a face.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: No, I think show's right. I think the opportunities for
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: will Anderson the top.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: No, No, it's true. It's true. It's just depressing, but
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: it's true.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: It's fourth and eighteen, so the game's over like either way,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: but you're down twelve points with under four minutes to go.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Someone looks for similar punts in a under five minutes
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: to go in a playoff game down score two scores.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: They found one example actually, which I found hilarious. Ron
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Rivera punted with two minutes and six seconds left down
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: twelve in the Super Bowl on fourth and twenty eight.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: He was just like, asker it, I'm getting out of here,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: like on his own six yard line or something like that.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: He was just like, fourth and twenty eight, I'm not bothering,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: which is basically what he did. And you know, of
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: all the moments though, like Marx's fumble, I thought was
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: maybe the biggest play in the game, yep, because Marx
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: fumbles as they're potentially going in, you know, they're at
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: that point they had cut it already to what five points,
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: it's twenty one to to No, it's twenty one to
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: thirteen at that point, and their kind of roll no
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: offense and Marx fumbles in the you know, in the
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: red zone. So uh, let's let's give some just quick
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: shoutouts because I want to say goodbye to this Texans defense,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: and I just want to give some love to like
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Will Anderson and daneil Hunter and Henry Totoe who is
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: awesome down the stretch this season, and Kamari Lassiter today
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: with three pass breakups. He gave a one catch on
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: seven targets.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: He was that dude.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Jalen Petrie was really active in this game. Togy. I, Uh,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: you're right. I was being a little harsh on the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Texans earlier. This This was a special defense.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: They deserved better.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Listen to one more Texans highlight. Why not Eric cut it?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Let's get our money's worth.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 8: Texans flaffing at the mouth on defense.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 9: I'm this stirddam situation.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 12: May calls for the ball, here's the rush, Here it
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 12: comes Will, the.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: Ball is out, The Texans have it hus these falls
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 8: on it take away for the Texans.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: The terminator strikes again.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: I know it doesn't matter now, but in that moment,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh wait they might actually come back.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I thought they were. I thought they were
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: coming back because that defense is just scary. That was
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Mark Vandermuir for the final time on Kilt. But yeah,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: on the other side, to give some that out there too,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: calebon Chase on four quarterback hits in this game, forced
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: forced a turnover. You mentioned that Milton Williams and Christian Barmore,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: they were living in the backfield. There were a lot
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: of tackles for lost in this game. Christian Gonzales fifteen targets.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: He was targeted fifteen times in this game, which is outrageous.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Only gave up sixty seven yards on those fifteen targets
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: eight catches, but they were for short. Carlton Davis who
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: left with a brain injury, two interceptions, four passes defense,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: and then how about Zach Kerr not allow of Zach
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Kerr love the defensive play caller a good couple of
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: weeks here, you know wherever Zach Kerr goes like everyone
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: is just questioning the quarterbacks after the fact, you know, controversy.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 9: Oh wow, it's like the grim Reaper. I don't know.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: The Carlton Davis Dick game, by the way, those two
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: dicks were low probability and he got both of them.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: It's sort of what I was getting at too, like
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: like sometimes it is about making those plays if you
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: think about the plays on the ball, like Stefan Diggs, Booty,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Carlton Davis. They just they made the plays on the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: ball in a difficult situation. Stephan Diggs with a great quote.
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  Speaker 2: He was asked how did he catch that missile from
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  Speaker 2: Drake May and he said, with my hands.
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  Speaker 9: He also credited May for the past, but he's worked,
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  Speaker 9: He's worked on the hands a lot. It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was an incredible catch up first thoughts, just very quickly.
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  Speaker 10: UH.
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  Speaker 1: Patriots playing at Denver in the AFC Championship game next week.
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  Speaker 1: That's going to be the earlier game.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same schedule as this Sunday in terms of timing,
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  Speaker 2: so it's a three pm Eastern noon Best Coast Patriots
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  Speaker 2: at Broncos. Bringing back some bad memories of the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: taken down New England and the AFC Championship a couple
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  Speaker 2: times in the Tom Brady Peyton Manning era. I think
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  Speaker 2: they're zero and three in Denver all time, UH. In
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs and then the trilogy will be completed. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like no offense to the AFC. But it feels
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  Speaker 2: right that the Rams and the Seahawks are finishing the
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  Speaker 2: day because I think these have been the best two
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  Speaker 2: teams in the NFL all season. It almost didn't happen,
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  Speaker 2: but I think we've been leading here all season and
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  Speaker 2: they will face off for probably the right to be
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  Speaker 2: the favorites for whatever that's worth, in the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: in Santa Clara in a couple of weeks. I'll give
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  Speaker 2: you the floor shook of, just like just some quick thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: We'll obviously be talking about it during the week.
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  Speaker 4: Well, my takeaway was going to be shout out to
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  Speaker 4: the schedule makers, Mike North, everybody else in the NFL
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  Speaker 4: office the three four five part, because you got it right.
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  Speaker 4: You put the better game of the two in the
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  Speaker 4: later windows.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have a choice. They go back and forth
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  Speaker 1: every year, so it's like it'll be a.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to throw all that aside. Take.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the take is I can't wait to see Ram
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks part three, just because if you look at the
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  Speaker 4: way they played this season, I feel like the Rams
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  Speaker 4: stile the first one, the Seahawks stole the second one.
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  Speaker 4: We're going back to Seattle Place is going to be
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  Speaker 4: raucus in Matthew Stafford find a way to continue to
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  Speaker 4: sling in against this great defense that seems to be peaking.
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  Speaker 4: The Seahawks look like the best team in football. Are
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  Speaker 4: they going to complete their run of the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 4: or Stafford gonna play the foil?
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  Speaker 3: We'll find out.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of attention being paid understandably to Sam's
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  Speaker 5: oblique where I think that will be a factory.
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  Speaker 9: I think he will need to play better.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think he'll actually need to play it didn't
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  Speaker 5: even really need to play against the forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 9: And you know, we'll see what Stitty has.
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  Speaker 5: What Stitty has in store for us, because it feels
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  Speaker 5: like the universe kind of robbed of an opportunity to
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  Speaker 5: see the high variance version of bo Nicks, who could
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  Speaker 5: absolutely beat this Patriots team. He could absolutely lose this
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  Speaker 5: Patriots team, but man, it will be fun to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick Foles, you know, still enjoying that Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: victory as should did send out a note for the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos and their fans that it's been an emotional twenty
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  Speaker 2: four hours. He feels for bow and the team, and
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  Speaker 2: he's sending prayers for a strong recovery. But a positive
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  Speaker 2: note going into the game versus the Patriots is that
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  Speaker 2: they struggle against backup quarterbacks in championship type games.
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  Speaker 1: Good job there, Nick Foles.
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  Speaker 9: He brings it all back to the old old Nick.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, why not just twist it in? Why not
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  Speaker 2: know it's a good job. And I look, I'm higher
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  Speaker 2: than Jared Stidham than consensus. I have always been for
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  Speaker 2: what it's worth. It was that one game against the
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  Speaker 2: Raiders like four years three years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's good.
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  Speaker 9: Doesn't even care about Jaredson.
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  Speaker 1: Well, everyone thinks he's just a total joke.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like you're positioning yourself for I told you
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  Speaker 3: I was right. Situation now now, No, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think the Patriots should be favored by a little or
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  Speaker 2: whatever you know because of that. But I as backup
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks go, I'm trusting Sean Payton. He gave this man
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  Speaker 2: two con tracks. He's a Day one signing. And uh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going back to that preseason tape because I remember it, Schucky,
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember. We were we were
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  Speaker 1: hitting some preseason reached.
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  Speaker 3: The preseason quarterback of the year.
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  Speaker 2: We call them preseason MVP this year. Yeah, that's why
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  Speaker 2: you tune in in August. Patrick, I love it.
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  Speaker 9: I'm dialed up.
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  Speaker 5: Are something that Jared Stillham sitting on the throne wearing
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  Speaker 5: his Patriots jersey. Uh, picture that we'll be looking at
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  Speaker 5: all week. I'm gonna love it. I can't wait.
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  Speaker 4: You go watch that tape against the Niners. By the way,
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  Speaker 4: that's where the super Bowl is gonna be played. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: he'll be back there.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And if you think bo Nix is a high variance quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: wait till you see Jared stead Of. That's a big
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  Speaker 2: arm athlete who's uh. I think he's gonna go down swinging.
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  Speaker 2: It's either gonna go great or go tear.
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  Speaker 5: Quarterbacks available Auburn transfer quarterback?
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  Speaker 3: Why not just stack them all up?
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  Speaker 9: What's doing?
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  Speaker 1: Man? Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Not the game that we expected, But I feel somehow
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  Speaker 2: like the game that this version of the AFC in
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  Speaker 2: this just totally weird wide open season kind of deserve
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  Speaker 2: So the Patriots, the Broncos, the top two seeds.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, the committee got it right.
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  Speaker 1: Get to the end this year. We will be back,
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  Speaker 1: not on Monday night, back in the feed.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, I think the next thing you'll Hear from Us
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  Speaker 2: is a forties and free Agents episode where we go
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: through all the AFC teams and what they need to
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: do this offseason. I'm enjoying this exercise and kind of
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: just just a quick look at the free agents, all
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  Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, and then back in this studio
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  Speaker 2: with the CEEU next Tuesday crew Colleen Wolf and Jordan
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  Speaker 2: rod Ray. On Tuesday, Big Week Ahead Championship Week, coaches
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  Speaker 2: are getting hired. Shuck's gotta go right, Patrick's taking his
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  Speaker 2: tie off. We're getting out of here.
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  Speaker 1: We're down to four teams, three games. See you Monday,