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Chuck & Buck 12-15 Hour 3: MMQB with Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Now the Monday Morning Quarterback with Mike hom Grin and
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Speaker 1: Hugh Millin.
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Speaker 2: Here's Chuckin' buck.
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Speaker 3: Oh what an odd game on Sunday, A game that
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Speaker 3: the Seahawks won by a final score of eighteen to
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Speaker 3: sixteen behind six that's right, six Jason Meyer's field goals,
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Speaker 3: including the game winner with the clock you know, with
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Speaker 3: inside seconds the remaining in the contest. Mike Homernil join
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Speaker 3: us at nine o'clock to evaluate everything. Joining us though
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Speaker 3: right now is our QB one. I'm so curious as
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Speaker 3: to where he wants to start his analysis because there's
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Speaker 3: a major topics out there. So where does it begin
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Speaker 3: for you, Hugh this morning?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I would just say the as
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Speaker 4: a fan, as an analyst, the close game didn't bother
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Speaker 4: me at all. I mean, the Seahawks are still number
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Speaker 4: one in the NFL in point margin at one hundred
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Speaker 4: and sixty three. There's only three teams that are over
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Speaker 4: one hundred rams and Patriots being the other one. So
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Speaker 4: they have six games where they've had double digit wins.
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Speaker 4: That's second most in the NFL. So the fact that
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Speaker 4: it was a tight game, it's the NFL. That stuff's
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Speaker 4: gonna happen. We'll get into it in detail, I assume,
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Speaker 4: but I'm not the least bit disappointed with how they
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Speaker 4: defended Philip Rivers. Yeah. I thought there'd be more sacks.
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Speaker 4: That's that's really the area that surprised me. But they
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Speaker 4: were not only fine, they were very good on defense.
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Speaker 4: I think that the and of course the kicker phenomenal.
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Speaker 4: But what does concern me is the red zone and
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Speaker 4: the fringe red zone. The Seahawks have in weeks ten,
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Speaker 4: in the last six weeks, they are making field goals
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Speaker 4: when they get inside the opponent's forty yard lines. That
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Speaker 4: makes sense. Red zone is inside your opponents twenty fringe
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Speaker 4: red zone is inside the opponent's forty the Seahawks, that's
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Speaker 4: at just under seventy sixty nine point seven percent. Not
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Speaker 4: only they number one in the NFL in field goals
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Speaker 4: and and and only thirty first in touchdowns. Let me
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Speaker 4: say that the first, but their field goal percentage, the
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Speaker 4: gap between them and second place is greater than the
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Speaker 4: gap between second place and twenty fourth place. Like, they
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Speaker 4: are kicking field goals at an alarming rate. Now, good
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Speaker 4: on Myers that he's making them. But I think that
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Speaker 4: that that is problematic given where we are on the skit,
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Speaker 4: on the calendar, and on the schedule moving forward. They
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Speaker 4: just you know, these this clunkiness of the offense I
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Speaker 4: think is concerning. And and they've had a thirty seven
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Speaker 4: percent drop in their big play production, uh in the
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Speaker 4: last five weeks. So there's some things that you know
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Speaker 4: that I can I can discard about the game yesterday,
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Speaker 4: But there's some elements of the football team that constituted
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Speaker 4: my mind trends that just simply must get reversed.
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Speaker 5: All right, well, we're gonna have obviously, we got a
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Speaker 5: couple hours with you and and so we're going to
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Speaker 5: get to the bottom of all of that stuff. But
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to kind of the first thing, just
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Speaker 5: the bigger topic going into the game. Didn't you didn't
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Speaker 5: have much of an issue or any issues with the
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Speaker 5: way in which they defended the Colts in particular, Philip Rivers,
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Speaker 5: I'm with you. I didn't feel like it was bad.
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Speaker 5: I mean, they end up scoring sixteen points, so it
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Speaker 5: wasn't bad. They didn't give up a ton was it
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Speaker 5: more of a they just had a good game plan
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Speaker 5: of how to get rid of the ball. Because Greg
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Speaker 5: had kind of thought, well, why didn't they just play
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Speaker 5: press and just bring a bunch of guys up because
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Speaker 5: it didn't look at all like they were going to
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Speaker 5: try to go over the top and beat you, so
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Speaker 5: why not take that underneath stuff away.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that.
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Speaker 4: I think they could have tried to make more havoc.
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Speaker 4: But let's just stop for a moment here. Philip Rivers
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Speaker 4: threw for one hundred and twenty yards, and he had
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Speaker 4: a seventy three point passerwaty. While we're getting caught up
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Speaker 4: and the fact that he's forty four years old and
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Speaker 4: haven't played in five years, let's just put that into context.
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Speaker 4: If if he did that, if he was the starting
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Speaker 4: quarterback for an NFL team, and he did that every
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Speaker 4: week seventeen games, he would throw for two thousand and
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Speaker 4: forty yards. Last year, there were eleven quarterbacks who had
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Speaker 4: played seventeen games. The minimum is thirty five hundred and
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Speaker 4: forty one yards. The average is four thousand and fifty eight,
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Speaker 4: so he would be less than half of the average
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Speaker 4: for a guy playing seventeen games. And then the passer
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Speaker 4: rating the minimum I mentioned Rivers was seventy three. The
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Speaker 4: minimum of those starters who had eleven starters who had
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Speaker 4: seventeen games, the minimum was an eighty seven pass rating.
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Speaker 4: The average is ninety nine point eight, call.
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Speaker 2: It one hundred.
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Speaker 4: So if Philip Rivers did that for an NFL team
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Speaker 4: for an entire season, that team would be picking number
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Speaker 4: one in the draft, because that would be one of
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Speaker 4: the worst quarterback seasons we've seen in history, certainly in
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Speaker 4: recent history. So there you know, air yards per completion.
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Speaker 4: Philip Rivers had one point three to nine. This is
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Speaker 4: all straight from the NFL staff portal. One point three
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Speaker 4: nine that's that's that's one point four yards from the
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Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. On his average on his completions on
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Speaker 4: on throws that he threw the ball more than five
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Speaker 4: yards from the line of scrimmage, he was two of nine.
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Speaker 4: He completed two passes where the ball went more in
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Speaker 4: five yards. So look, I actually I really like Philip Rivers.
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Speaker 4: I'm a fan. If he wasn't playing for the Seahawks,
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Speaker 4: I think I'd be rooting for him. But but let's
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Speaker 4: let's not true. He didn't have four interceptions, he didn't
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Speaker 4: give him a max braswell, he didn't have nine sacks.
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Speaker 4: So I certainly we can all envision a scenario where
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Speaker 4: where it was much uglier for Philip Rivers. But on
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Speaker 4: no no planet. I mean, I'll dig in on the
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Speaker 4: beach and and fight you hard. If you're going to
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Speaker 4: say that that in any way, that that he had
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Speaker 4: a good game or a decent game, No, he did
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Speaker 4: not have a good game. He did not have a
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Speaker 4: decent game. He just avoided the calamity that would land
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Speaker 4: him the first story on Sports Center. That's about all
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Speaker 4: you can say. Yeah, I like to do. I like
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Speaker 4: to do like I don't. I don't take any joy
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Speaker 4: trying to rip Philip Rivers. But look, I'm just confronting
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Speaker 4: these facts. Still was better than I thought it was
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Speaker 4: going to be. Yeah, because we thought it would be
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Speaker 4: a calamity, right, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And for for him to have not played in five
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Speaker 3: years and practiced twice and really not based the speed
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Speaker 3: of the game, I mean, for him to have not
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Speaker 3: been sacked five times and throw three interceptions.
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Speaker 2: I think it's damn near a football miracle.
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Speaker 1: You.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there could be two truths.
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Speaker 4: I think that could be true and and I think
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Speaker 4: it also can be true that that that the Colts
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Speaker 4: pass offense was entirely, entirely uh you know, non productive
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Speaker 4: by anybody's reasonable standard in modern NFL. I mean, if
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Speaker 4: this was I mean the league started in nineteen twenty
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Speaker 4: I mean, if we went back one hundred years, I
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Speaker 4: bet that was an okay passing game for nineteen twenty five,
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Speaker 4: But did they have the forward pass and nineteen fortally
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Speaker 4: I think. But my point so look, The Seahawks defense
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Speaker 4: was fine, more than fine. They just didn't create the
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Speaker 4: havoc that probably many of us expected. But the problem
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Speaker 4: from yesterday was the offense.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's get into it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get into the offensive aspect of this. And
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Speaker 3: maybe at the heart of it is we just keep
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Speaker 3: waiting for this run game, and we keep waiting for
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Speaker 3: Ken Walker to be effective. And yeah, they had three
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Speaker 3: yards at halftime, and yet the determination to run the
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Speaker 3: football still exists. And even there was one drive here
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Speaker 3: where it looked like they'd moved up tempo. They completed
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Speaker 3: a couple passes in a row and it looked like, Okay,
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Speaker 3: now the offense is starting to kick in, and they
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Speaker 3: go with three straight runs, bogged down and settle for
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Speaker 3: a field goal. So I don't know where you want
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Speaker 3: to start with it, but certainly the run game is
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Speaker 3: not helping this offense play. Well, no, it's really not.
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Speaker 4: And particularly on the the stretch plays, the wide zone
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Speaker 4: that we heard so much about with Clint Kubiak and
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Speaker 4: and I think you know, and watching that tape, it
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Speaker 4: looked like it was first week of mini camp. Just
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Speaker 4: the fundamentals. You know early on there, you you have
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Speaker 4: to have eyes when you when when you have basically
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Speaker 4: zone blocking, you're stepping in the direction you're going and
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Speaker 4: you're trying to reach, but you're you're going to have
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Speaker 4: two guys are going to say, Okay, we're we're double
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Speaker 4: teaming those two. One guy at the defensive line level,
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Speaker 4: one guy at the at the next level, and and
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Speaker 4: you both come off and you're trying to be hip
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Speaker 4: hip shoulder to soulder and get some movement with that guy.
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Speaker 4: But then you both then you have eyes on the
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Speaker 4: next level guy, the linebacker, and then one of the two,
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Speaker 4: if he takes an inside angle, then the inside guy's
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Speaker 4: gonna block him. If he tries to scrape over the top,
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Speaker 4: then the outside guy's gonna get him. So there's too
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Speaker 4: many times where early on they're they're they're they're not
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Speaker 4: seeing guys, they're not getting The timing of when they
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Speaker 4: released the second level was very poor. And then it's
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Speaker 4: like they overcompensated because then they said, Okay, we're not
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Speaker 4: getting to our second level guys, and then you start
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Speaker 4: to see that they making they're making problems for their
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Speaker 4: selves because they're getting the second level too fast and
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Speaker 4: almost looks like man and man blocking, Well, if you
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Speaker 4: get man and man blocking. There's a reason why there's
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Speaker 4: the zone blocking where you want to get the initial
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Speaker 4: double teams at the at the line of scrimmage with
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Speaker 4: the defensive linemen. So if you only have one guy
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Speaker 4: to block at the defensive line, then then that's a problem.
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Speaker 2: There.
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Speaker 4: Another facet was I thought the Colts were very good,
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Speaker 4: and you know, at some point you run out of
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Speaker 4: bodies on those wide zone The wide receiver he's got
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Speaker 4: to either block the corner or he's got to block
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Speaker 4: the safety. And depending on the hass and the formation
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Speaker 4: and the coverage, it can be different. But I thought
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Speaker 4: the Colts when when when the wide receiver go block
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Speaker 4: the safety the corner, Bam, he just triggered and fired
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Speaker 4: almost to the point where Seattle could have called a
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Speaker 4: half back pass. You know, if they have it in
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Speaker 4: there in their repertoire, because the the secondary is firing
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Speaker 4: so fast and they're they're absolving what's There's what's called
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Speaker 4: primary support and secondary support. Primary run support on an
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Speaker 4: edge is if you see the ball coming out, you
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Speaker 4: just fire cornerback. Uh, there has to be somebody who
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Speaker 4: has secondary run support where you say, wait a minute,
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Speaker 4: you don't get to fire until the ball passes the
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Speaker 4: line of scrimmage because you have to defend the halfback pass.
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Speaker 4: And so I thought the Colts their secondary on some
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Speaker 4: of those wide plays were triggering really really fast. Either
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Speaker 4: whoever wasn't blocked between the corner and the state, he
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Speaker 4: did a good job. And you know, and then they
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Speaker 4: try and run a power you know, a gap scheme
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Speaker 4: they pull I don't know why they pull Anthony Bradford
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Speaker 4: and go power left. I would pull Gray's Abel and
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Speaker 4: go power right. But that was a mess. So so
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Speaker 4: it just looked like, I don't know, it looked like
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Speaker 4: mini camp is what it looked like in terms of
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Speaker 4: just how they're handling fundamentals. And give give the Colts
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Speaker 4: some credit as I described.
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Speaker 2: I'm with you.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think credit is deserved to some degree
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Speaker 5: kind of across the board, the way in which they
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Speaker 5: came out and played decent defense to kind of try
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Speaker 5: to shut down some of the things that they weren't gonna.
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Speaker 2: Let him be run all over.
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Speaker 5: To me, there was a part of it where if
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Speaker 5: there was a disappointment, it would be that it almost
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Speaker 5: seemed like the play calling was We're okay with just
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Speaker 5: kind of eating up clock when we get it, and
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Speaker 5: if we have to pawn a few times, fine, If
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Speaker 5: we got to just settle for three, that's fine. Whereas
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Speaker 5: the idea to me would be after a quarter. You
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Speaker 5: kind of saw the Colts weren't going to be this,
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Speaker 5: you know, trying to you know, hit you with big plays.
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Speaker 5: They were just going to be trying to methodically move
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Speaker 5: it down there with a run game primarily, and a
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Speaker 5: couple of third down conversions and then the settle for
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Speaker 5: three majority of the time themselves. So I thought, why
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Speaker 5: not open it up a little bit, because if you
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Speaker 5: just scored one touchdown, it felt like you were going
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Speaker 5: to be able to kind of run away with this thing. Instead,
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Speaker 5: they went really conservative. It felt like to me, did
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Speaker 5: you see that or no?
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Speaker 4: Well, I think there was a number of times where
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Speaker 4: they were calling plays where they're trying to get downfield verticals,
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Speaker 4: whether it's like all goes or whether they're doing what's
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Speaker 4: called dagger concept where you're clearing out the inside and
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Speaker 4: trying to bring an any intermediate cut in from the
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Speaker 4: outside on a deep inbreaking route there. They had those
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Speaker 4: plays called. But I thought that Sam Darnold was really
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Speaker 4: had to move early in the down. I mean there
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Speaker 4: was constant breakdowns, whether it was physical breakdowns in the
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Speaker 4: or in the communication. They didn't get a block, you know,
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Speaker 4: running backs, poor pass blocking, uh Aj Barner missing a
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Speaker 4: past block. I mean they had They had a variety
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Speaker 4: of breakdowns where Sam Darnold was having to move off
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Speaker 4: the spot. So I think that there was an effort
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Speaker 4: to try and open it up more. I just think, uh,
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Speaker 4: they didn't get the execution. And you know, I don't
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Speaker 4: talk about field position every week, but I think it's
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Speaker 4: worth mentioning guys this that the Colts. Basically both teams
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Speaker 4: had ten drives. If we if we if we exclude
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Speaker 4: Seattle's when they got the interception at the very end
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Speaker 4: of the game, they took one play to kneel down right,
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Speaker 4: So if we exclude that, then both teams had ten drives,
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Speaker 4: and all ten of those drives started with the opposing
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Speaker 4: team kicking right. It was it was off the foot
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Speaker 4: of the opposing teams got me. So when so the Seahawks,
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Speaker 4: all of their offensive drives were either because they got
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Speaker 4: a punt or because they got a kickoff. And same
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Speaker 4: thing with the Colts. There was no turnovers, and there
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Speaker 4: was no four downs loss of downs. Okay, so every
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Speaker 4: drive started but from a kick. The worst start that
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Speaker 4: the Colts had was on their own twenty four yard
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Speaker 4: line for the entire game. Worst, Seattle had seven starts
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Speaker 4: that were worse than the Colts worse. See the average.
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Speaker 4: If you take away again that kneel down, that one
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Speaker 4: playe kneel down as the last play of the game.
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Speaker 4: If you take that away, the Colts average start was
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Speaker 4: at their own thirty five yard line. Again, all of
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Speaker 4: those started as a result of a Seattle either Dixon
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Speaker 4: or Meyers kicking to them. Seattle's was the twenty You say, well, okay,
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Speaker 4: fifteen yard difference. No, that's fifteen yards average times ten.
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Speaker 4: That's one hundred and fifty yards advantage that the Colts
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Speaker 4: had in field position over the course of the game,
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Speaker 4: just in terms of where they started. So I think
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Speaker 4: that that played a factor, you know, in some of
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Speaker 4: the the troubles that Seattle had offensively.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's discuss that, because the first thing out of
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Speaker 3: your mouth, when it just open ended, where does your
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Speaker 3: mind go about this game? Was settling for the field goals.
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Speaker 3: So when they had that offensive huddle. Should it have
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Speaker 3: been the players taking Kubiak to task or vice versa.
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Speaker 2: What is breaking.
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Speaker 3: Down for you that's forcing them to settle for these
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Speaker 3: field goals that are frustrating.
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Speaker 4: Well, they had the six field goals, and anytime you say, okay, okay,
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Speaker 4: that's great, six field goals, no touchdowns. Now technically they were.
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Speaker 4: They were over to in the red zone. That's why
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Speaker 4: I wanted to say the red zone fringe, which is
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Speaker 4: the forty in and I hope you guys got that
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Speaker 4: in the last you know, the last five weeks that
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Speaker 4: you know they're they're at seventy percent of the time
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Speaker 4: they break through the opponent's forty, they're going to kick
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Speaker 4: a field goal, which is.
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Speaker 2: By far and away number one.
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Speaker 4: I just think that there's they don't have the protection
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Speaker 4: to get the ball down the field. And now there
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Speaker 4: was there was a couple of breakdowns. I think sam
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Speaker 4: Donold had a good game under the circumstances. But I've
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Speaker 4: got a couple minuses on his sheet in the second quarter.
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, and I'll get back to your
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Speaker 4: question about Kubiak addressing the team the final drive of
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Speaker 4: the second quarter where they got the field goal right there,
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Speaker 4: down thirteen to three. Did you feel like that was
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Speaker 4: a pivotal drive that they could get the field goal
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Speaker 4: and pulled the within touchdown. Didn't that seem like that
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Speaker 4: was important? The first play of that drive, number forty four,
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Speaker 4: look him up, the linebacker for the Colts. He comes
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Speaker 4: based on a miscommunication with Seattle. He comes untouched through
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Speaker 4: the a gap. I mean literally not even a finger.
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Speaker 4: Nobody even knew. It was like he was.
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Speaker 2: Wearing an invisible suit. Nobody blocked him.
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Speaker 4: And if that's a on first down, if he takes
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Speaker 4: a six seven eight yard sack there and it's and
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Speaker 4: they don't go down the field, I thought that was
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Speaker 4: a hell of a play by him. But Darnaire Franklin,
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Speaker 4: by the way, Franklin just somehow Sam Darnold made him miss.
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Speaker 4: Somehow he made a miss, and that might have been
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Speaker 4: a three point a very vital three point miss. But
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Speaker 4: later in that drive, the Colts were doing a coverage
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Speaker 4: you just rarely see. They start looking like they're in
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Speaker 4: a three deep zone. And this is the defense that
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Speaker 4: I like into a baseball outfield and infield, all right,
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Speaker 4: because there's three deep in four hundred and if you
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Speaker 4: can picture four hundred in an infield and three three
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Speaker 4: deep in an outfield, of course you can. Well that's
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Speaker 4: that's what cover three is. But the Holts were taking
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Speaker 4: the safety and they were coming down. It would be
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Speaker 4: like the center fielder at the snap coming down to
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Speaker 4: stand on second base, and and the entire centerfield is
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Speaker 4: wide open. And when I first saw it, I got like,
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Speaker 4: is that a bust? Like was that supposed to rotate?
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Speaker 4: Like like that guy was coming down? It must be
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Speaker 4: a coverage called three buzz where he has the he
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Speaker 4: plays the short stop, and then the and then the
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Speaker 4: guy who lines up at second base. He runs to
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Speaker 4: center field to carry out the baseball analogy. But there
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Speaker 4: was an opportunity where Rashi Chi he the corners outside leverage.
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Speaker 4: When that safety comes down, Rashid Shihad had a post.
19:38
Speaker 4: I'm telling you every NFL quarterback meeting room in the league,
19:43
Speaker 4: it's like, dude, the light ain't gonna get any greener.
19:46
Speaker 4: You've got to crank that thing up and go for uh,
19:49
Speaker 4: go for the touch and if you miss it, you
19:50
Speaker 4: miss it. But you can't not throw that post down
19:53
Speaker 4: and then and then uh in the red zone when
19:57
Speaker 4: he missed Rashi shiheid U. It was a classic cover six,
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Speaker 4: which which means they roll over the top in the
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Speaker 4: end zone. On third down, they roll over the top
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Speaker 4: of JSN to Sam Donald's left, so that means the
20:09
Speaker 4: corners in the flat, the safety's over the top. It's
20:12
Speaker 4: a form of double double coverage high low double coverage
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Speaker 4: within his own concept. And Rashid Shaheed has free access,
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Speaker 4: meaning he's not getting jammed. He's got one on one
20:24
Speaker 4: with the corner. The tight end is barner is eating
20:27
Speaker 4: up the safety. So you got one on one and
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Speaker 4: Donald threw it well behind him, and that's got to
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Speaker 4: be a touchdown now before I put it all on Donald,
20:37
Speaker 4: if you go if you go back and listen to
20:39
Speaker 4: the podcast in August about things I was seeing at
20:43
Speaker 4: training camp, I do not like a wide receivers to
20:48
Speaker 4: come up and then they have free access, so the
20:52
Speaker 4: defense has decided not to roll on Scheeheed.
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Speaker 2: Let me explain this.
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Speaker 4: Play because this is there's a big part of Seattle's
20:58
Speaker 4: offense to me that I think it's worth a minute
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Speaker 4: to describe what has Sam Darnold's seen. He says, Okay,
21:04
Speaker 4: I got cover six. They're rolling to my left on JSN,
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Speaker 4: the tight end is eating up to safety. I got
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Speaker 4: one on one, beautiful. This is exactly what we practiced
21:15
Speaker 4: on Friday, because Friday's red zone day, and they would
21:20
Speaker 4: have scripted the defense and that's the play. That's the
21:23
Speaker 4: coverage they were looking for. This is the play to
21:25
Speaker 4: beat that coverage. So Rasids he comes out what I
21:29
Speaker 4: would what I would want him to do is have
21:32
Speaker 4: his inside leg forward, go five steps, do not slow
21:36
Speaker 4: down whatsoever. Put playing your outside leg and break to
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Speaker 4: the post. And that is much easier to time up.
21:44
Speaker 4: You don't slow your momentum down. It's easier to throw
21:47
Speaker 4: routes on air. There's less inconsistency, which means more consistency.
21:54
Speaker 4: And yet the way the Seahawks teach it is it
21:56
Speaker 4: comes down and he he like stutters and he his
22:00
Speaker 4: momentum down and then he's got to re accelerate. And
22:04
Speaker 4: just fifty years of playing, coaching and analyzing the position,
22:09
Speaker 4: it's much harder to be on you know, to have
22:13
Speaker 4: cohesion when you teach that type of technique. I hate it.
22:17
Speaker 4: And so Donald ends up throwing the ball high and
22:21
Speaker 4: away looks it's a bad pass. I guarantee a pro
22:24
Speaker 4: football focus is gonna ding him on that, and I
22:26
Speaker 4: am too, like it's got to be a touchdown.
22:29
Speaker 2: I get it, but I wish.
22:31
Speaker 4: That they didn't teach it that way because it would
22:34
Speaker 4: give Donald a much better chance to see things and
22:37
Speaker 4: to anticipate it. You do it just like it plays
22:40
Speaker 4: out against the defense, just like routes on air when
22:42
Speaker 4: you're throwing back in march and you just tighten up
22:46
Speaker 4: the consistency. So at any event, those are plays. You know,
22:51
Speaker 4: we're sitting here talking about red zone, we're talking about
22:54
Speaker 4: kicking a lot of field goals, and these are some
22:57
Speaker 4: of the details where you say we got to be
22:59
Speaker 4: better because you got a super Bowl winning defense. Yeah,
23:04
Speaker 4: you do not have a super like you're gonna have
23:06
Speaker 4: to somehow hide a very non super bowl offensive line.
23:12
Speaker 4: But the things, you know, they're good. The people who
23:14
Speaker 4: touch the ball on offense, that's a pretty damn good
23:17
Speaker 4: group story, including Darnold, the running backs, the wide receivers,
23:21
Speaker 4: get Tory Horton back. It's great to see Shaheed. I
23:24
Speaker 4: like the tight end Like, things are pretty damn good
23:26
Speaker 4: in terms of the people who touch the ball, but
23:30
Speaker 4: when they get opportunities, like I'm described and they have
23:33
Speaker 4: to hit it because the offensive line is the weakness
23:36
Speaker 4: of the football team and everything even down to the
23:40
Speaker 4: special teams that I was talking about, you know, starting
23:44
Speaker 4: field position, what the defense, the offensive line impacts everybody.
23:48
Speaker 4: But you get an opportunity to make some of those plays,
23:50
Speaker 4: you got to hit them.
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Speaker 1: Watching this, Donald operates the Seattle offense.
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Speaker 4: Flash.
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Speaker 3: Donald steps up, throws on the run and he's got
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Speaker 3: a man Smith in Chigbuk picks Ray Smith and chickback
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Speaker 3: down the sun line at first to the bounds.
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Speaker 2: Pop Pine up, Chuck Bowbuggy. Jacobson, Ashley Ryan with you.
24:27
Speaker 3: It's Monday Morning Quarterback Day. Hugh Millan with us to
24:31
Speaker 3: react to yesterday's eighteen sixteen win over the Indianapolis Colts.
24:35
Speaker 3: Jason Meyers six for six on field goal attempts, including
24:38
Speaker 3: the game winner. But certainly one of our main topics
24:41
Speaker 3: today has been the offense not being able to score
24:45
Speaker 3: a touchdown yesterday, I wrote at one point, Hugh, right
24:48
Speaker 3: about the six minute mark, after you went from first
24:52
Speaker 3: and ten to second and thirteen on a penalty, to
24:55
Speaker 3: second and eighteen to third and eighteen and then got
24:58
Speaker 3: a tackle for loss, I just wrote, down sloppiest the
25:01
Speaker 3: Hawks have looked all year long. And then about two
25:05
Speaker 3: forty five seconds later, Clint Kubiak had huddled the offense
25:09
Speaker 3: over on the sideline. A lot of people are texting
25:12
Speaker 3: and wondering your reaction to that. What was your thought
25:17
Speaker 3: at that point? Yeah, you're right, it would happen. Right
25:20
Speaker 3: after that sequence they try to fly sweep and you
25:23
Speaker 3: know what an off ball linebacker. That's one of the
25:26
Speaker 3: the gambles you take is that you hope it hits
25:29
Speaker 3: fast enough.
25:29
Speaker 4: And they don't recognize it. But a guy linebacker came
25:33
Speaker 4: from four or five yards deep. The false start the scramble,
25:38
Speaker 4: I put the question was that necessary? With two question marks?
25:42
Speaker 4: I thought maybe Darnold could have stayed in the throwing
25:45
Speaker 4: position and just slid up and found a check down.
25:49
Speaker 4: And so I think at that juncture it's just kind
25:52
Speaker 4: of wait, wake the f up, you know. I think
25:56
Speaker 4: that there was maybe a malaise with back to the
26:01
Speaker 4: Colts and the fact they don't have their quarterback, and
26:05
Speaker 4: and you know those guys know they're playing the Rams
26:07
Speaker 4: on Thursday. I mean, in theory, you would just focus
26:11
Speaker 4: on the Colts, but in reality, I think that some
26:14
Speaker 4: of those thoughts can creep in. I'm not in their heads,
26:17
Speaker 4: but I think it's fair to make an inference that way.
26:21
Speaker 4: But you know, you know, I think that coaches when
26:24
Speaker 4: they do that, obviously it's just kind of judicious. You
26:28
Speaker 4: can't do that very often, but it often will have
26:33
Speaker 4: you know, it had a good fact. I mean they
26:36
Speaker 4: I believe that was Yeah, they scored on the next
26:38
Speaker 4: drive that happened to be the field goal drive. And
26:43
Speaker 4: yet some of the problems, and we're talking about the
26:45
Speaker 4: red zone persistent. I mean, you get a beautiful design
26:48
Speaker 4: play with Brady Russell in the flat with lead blocker
26:51
Speaker 4: that might have gone for twelve fifteen yards, Brady Russell
26:55
Speaker 4: drops it. I mean it hits him right in the
26:56
Speaker 4: belly button, you know, and you're down in the red zone.
27:00
Speaker 4: And wait a minute, You're gonna line up Cooper Cup
27:03
Speaker 4: as the what's called number three counting outside and he's
27:07
Speaker 4: the third guy on trips, he's gonna run a five
27:09
Speaker 4: yard in route. Yeah, some people people call that a
27:11
Speaker 4: finn as in five yard in five in zone coverage.
27:16
Speaker 4: You're not gonna be able to make a connection with
27:18
Speaker 4: Cooper cup and Sam Darnold on a finn route because
27:23
Speaker 4: Cooper cup Is is hauling ass into into a zone
27:26
Speaker 4: coverage and Donald's throwing behind. I'm certain that the quarterback
27:31
Speaker 4: was right and the receiver is wrong, even though I
27:33
Speaker 4: think he's the smartest receiver in the NFL. Like the
27:37
Speaker 4: idea that you can't like, there's just a couple of
27:39
Speaker 4: examples of of you're not even doing stuff that eighth
27:44
Speaker 4: graders can do. And so you got to clean that up,
27:47
Speaker 4: and you got to clean that up now because this
27:50
Speaker 4: is this is one of the coolest, most exciting games
27:53
Speaker 4: coming up Thursday that we've had in years and years.
27:57
Speaker 4: And in the NFL, by the way, the Rams are
27:59
Speaker 4: the betting favorite to win the Super Bowl, and number
28:03
Speaker 4: two on the list right now is the Seattle Seahawks. Like,
28:06
Speaker 4: that's what we have this Thursday. And so you can't
28:09
Speaker 4: be dropping balls in your belly button and you can't
28:12
Speaker 4: have a PhD level football player making eighth grade mistakes.
28:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was an element to the game though, correct
28:23
Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong where it was like when you
28:25
Speaker 3: played your when you were like a high school basketball
28:28
Speaker 3: star or at least a starter, and you were yeah,
28:34
Speaker 3: and then the family reunion comes together and your uncle
28:37
Speaker 3: wants to play one on one and you're trying to
28:39
Speaker 3: take it easy on the old man. And then the
28:41
Speaker 3: next thing, you're down seven to two. Wait a minute,
28:44
Speaker 3: I better step up, my gamer. I'm near the end
28:46
Speaker 3: of this. I'm supposed to be a starter on the
28:48
Speaker 3: high school team here, and you know, Uncle Jim has
28:51
Speaker 3: taking me to the woodshed out here.
28:54
Speaker 2: Right there seemed to be a little bit of an
28:55
Speaker 2: element to that. I think you're right.
28:57
Speaker 4: I think that psychology can creep in and you know,
29:01
Speaker 4: but remember now, this was a team here. This is
29:05
Speaker 4: this is a truth as of eight days and uh yeah,
29:11
Speaker 4: eight days and two hours ago. If you looked up
29:15
Speaker 4: who was the highest scoring team in the NFL, the
29:18
Speaker 4: answer was the Indianapolis Colts. And so there it wasn't
29:23
Speaker 4: just Daniel Jones. They've got some targets. They're other than
29:29
Speaker 4: right tackle going into the game. The offensive lines are
29:32
Speaker 4: damn good. Uh They lost lost their left tackle, and.
29:35
Speaker 2: That's it didn't seem to have a problem.
29:37
Speaker 4: So that would be probably the only thing that you know,
29:39
Speaker 4: it's like, wait a minute, why didn't you create free
29:41
Speaker 4: runners against this guy? Like I just that part of it,
29:45
Speaker 4: the mayhem in in Philip rivers lap just didn't materialize, but.
29:52
Speaker 2: The way that we expect. But the defense.
29:55
Speaker 4: Look, if if I just if I put up your
29:58
Speaker 4: you're blindfolded you and you didn't know who the quarterback was,
30:01
Speaker 4: and I just said, this is how their quarterback is
30:03
Speaker 4: gonna play, and this is what they're gonna do. On offense,
30:04
Speaker 4: You're gonna say, that's a slam dunk. That's a win.
30:07
Speaker 4: Every you know you're gonna go. You're probably gonna go
30:11
Speaker 4: seventeen and oh and the worst you're gonna go is
30:14
Speaker 4: sixteen and one. If you can make an opposing quarterback do.
30:17
Speaker 2: That, well, they almost they almost they almost have the one.
30:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, one more segment with Hugh before coach
30:25
Speaker 3: joins this here at nine o'clock, it's Modernday morning Quarterback
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Speaker 2: Three point three kh A r f M.
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Speaker 4: Then in Melvin Franklin coming in with that deep voice
30:36
Speaker 4: and that that picks up. You're right when I suggest
30:40
Speaker 4: bumper music. I'm always cognizant of what is the first
30:43
Speaker 4: five or six seconds because it's radio right, But that's
30:47
Speaker 4: Ashley backed me up. That's the one time where I like,
30:49
Speaker 4: you know what we just got. You know, however it starts.
30:52
Speaker 2: You gotta let it build, Yeah, let it go. I
30:54
Speaker 2: thought about it. I was like, should I start it later? No,
30:56
Speaker 2: can't get can't you can't skimp on the beginning.
30:59
Speaker 4: No, I'm aware it's sluggish, but you know, kind of
31:02
Speaker 4: like the Seahawks first half on offense.
31:04
Speaker 2: That's right.
31:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, lately, you know, and we we've talked a lot
31:08
Speaker 3: about like that.
31:09
Speaker 2: One, Bucky.
31:10
Speaker 3: We've talked this hour, you know, about the offensive struggles
31:14
Speaker 3: because we got a big game and we can't play
31:15
Speaker 3: that way on Thursday. We can't wait until the second
31:18
Speaker 3: half against the Rams on Thursday. But I will say
31:20
Speaker 3: this just to in this first hour, like on a
31:23
Speaker 3: positive note, I do love the way Sam Darnold just
31:26
Speaker 3: rips it.
31:27
Speaker 2: I mean he can.
31:28
Speaker 3: Fumble the ball out of bounds and then the very
31:30
Speaker 3: next pass it's like three steps boom, and he's just
31:33
Speaker 3: gonna launch.
31:34
Speaker 2: It on a laser to somebody. I love that.
31:36
Speaker 3: And then I love that fourth and three play that
31:39
Speaker 3: he made where he escaped the pressure and found and
31:42
Speaker 3: found aj Barner for the first down. That that was
31:46
Speaker 3: my favorite play.
31:47
Speaker 2: Of the day. Yeah.
31:48
Speaker 4: And you know what, the NFL calculate that exactly four
31:51
Speaker 4: point five seconds that he was, you know, trying to
31:55
Speaker 4: find something and credit the offensive line. But he had
31:58
Speaker 4: a concept of three man concept too, was right, and
32:01
Speaker 4: uh and and and Barner was doing a block block
32:05
Speaker 4: block check release. So so just that was a lot
32:08
Speaker 4: of just kind of off script savvy by him. And
32:11
Speaker 4: of course the the the final drive. Uh you know
32:15
Speaker 4: that that seventeen yarder to Shahed, I mean that's a
32:19
Speaker 4: cover four defense. Uh and and and in theory they're
32:23
Speaker 4: gonna be double teaming Shaheed over to his left. It's
32:27
Speaker 4: press coverage. And and the timing when you look at
32:30
Speaker 4: when he cut that loose, he cut that loose like
32:34
Speaker 4: well ahead of she she Heed's break and he put
32:37
Speaker 4: it right on his outside thighpad.
32:40
Speaker 2: And had you said freeze right.
32:42
Speaker 4: Now, you know when you're you play freeze tag when
32:44
Speaker 4: you're a kid, if you play you said freeze, and
32:47
Speaker 4: you said she He based on where the coverage is,
32:50
Speaker 4: where would you want the ball exactly? Well, you just said,
32:53
Speaker 4: well how about right here? And he would have put
32:55
Speaker 4: his hands the size of a salad plate right over
32:58
Speaker 4: his right thighpad. Because that's that's what I'm based on
33:02
Speaker 4: on the position of defender. That's exactly where he wanted
33:05
Speaker 4: the ball. It was just you know, and then he
33:07
Speaker 4: gets the uh the quick out you know, to to
33:11
Speaker 4: uh to what to get seven eight yards to uh
33:14
Speaker 4: make the field goal shorter. So so this is a There's
33:16
Speaker 4: been a number of times where late in the game,
33:19
Speaker 4: last minute, minute and a half of the game where
33:23
Speaker 4: Donald has made big time plays. And so now I'm
33:27
Speaker 4: I agree with Tony Gonzalez a month ago on a
33:31
Speaker 4: Thursday Night Prime sitting on that that that desk, right
33:35
Speaker 4: after the RAM loss, he said, the guy in the
33:38
Speaker 4: NFL who has the most pressure on him of anybody
33:42
Speaker 4: in the league is Sam Darnold. And he's pointing ahead
33:46
Speaker 4: to this Thursday And I agree with that. I agree
33:50
Speaker 4: with that. I'm rooting like hell for the kid. I
33:52
Speaker 4: think he's a wonderful guy, but you know what he's
33:55
Speaker 4: got to produce and and and uh, this Thursday is
33:58
Speaker 4: a big time midterm for him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there's no time like the present. We might
34:04
Speaker 3: as well jump into it and start breaking this one
34:07
Speaker 3: down because it's just that big and we don't have
34:09
Speaker 3: a lot of the week to do it, all right.
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