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These NBA Teams Need To Make A Change ASAP · Small Ball with Kenny Beecham

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SPEAKER_00: It feels like more time than ever, we're getting actual players talk about the rumors surrounding them.
0:05
SPEAKER_00: Just in this week alone, DeJounte Murray was asked about the Spurs.
0:08
SPEAKER_00: He said it would be a pleasure to play for the Spurs again.
0:10
SPEAKER_00: Greg Popovich is like a father figure to me.
0:13
SPEAKER_00: Brother, you still play for the Atlanta Hawks.
0:20
SPEAKER_00: Welcome, welcome, welcome back to the Kenny Beach and Podcast, y'all.
0:24
SPEAKER_00: I am here with a mailbag episode.
0:28
SPEAKER_00: I always tell y'all my favorite part of every single episode of this show is the Ask KB segment.
0:32
SPEAKER_00: And you trying to tell me I could do a whole episode of basically Ask KB?
0:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what we're doing today.
0:37
SPEAKER_00: Now, I did this about a month or two months ago and kind of feeling out the room, trying to figure out what y'all enjoy or what y'all don't.
0:43
SPEAKER_00: And it seems like me talking to y'all, answering specific questions from the viewer base or is something y'all enjoy.
0:48
SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, okay, uh, we're at the party of the NBA right now.
0:50
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm watching for pleasure and not necessarily for content, if that makes sense.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, because I don't think you're learning much about teams two weeks before the deadline.
0:59
SPEAKER_00: Uh, because I'm assuming that a lot of these teams are gonna make moves.
1:02
SPEAKER_00: Maybe maybe not so much, but I'm watching for pleasure.
1:05
SPEAKER_00: And because of that, I'm not going into my notes saying, oh my God, this team uh can't be a contender because they did this on this random day in the beginning of January.
1:12
SPEAKER_00: So because of that, um, it's just not a lot of storylineslash topics that I really want to bring to the table.
1:18
SPEAKER_00: So I opened up to the to the audience and I tweeted it out on the main account, and it got about 600 replies on X.
1:24
SPEAKER_00: So shout out to everybody that that participated.
1:26
SPEAKER_00: I tried my best to sip through as many as possible, and I picked my favorite like 12 of them.
1:30
SPEAKER_00: So shout out, shout out to the community.
1:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, and with a mail pack, you never really know.
1:34
SPEAKER_00: This could be an hour and a half episode, this could be 22 minutes.
1:37
SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
1:38
SPEAKER_00: No matter what it is, I'm gonna try my best to give y'all the content.
1:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, a few things before we get uh get into the first question.
1:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, one of the things that's brought to my attention, because I'm always trying to take suggestions from the audience, trying to figure out how we can approve the show, how can we grow the show.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: And one of the things uh I've been seeing a lot recently is that you guys enjoy the show, which thank you.
1:56
SPEAKER_00: But there are some people out there that are wishing that we released the show earlier.
2:00
SPEAKER_00: Right now, we've been releasing the Kenny Beach and Podcast um uh one o'clock central time on Mondays and was that Thursdays, and that has been a way since we basically started this YouTube channel.
2:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, but it brought to my attention, y'all got commutes, you got school, you got work, and you and you want the Candy Beach and podcast early because that 30-minute drive might be just a little bit better.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm that's what y'all are telling me.
2:22
SPEAKER_00: You feel me?
2:22
SPEAKER_00: So, what we're gonna do to try to remedy this, at least test it out for a couple weeks to figure out um if it hurts or helps the show, is that we're gonna be dropping the audio version of the show early mornings, while the visual is gonna drop at the normal time that we we have at one o'clock central.
2:36
SPEAKER_00: We'll see how it goes.
2:37
SPEAKER_00: So if you're watching this post one o'clock and you're like, man, I I need this for my commute, go over to Spotify, go over to Apple um and download the episodes.
2:45
SPEAKER_00: Because I'm assuming that if you're commuting, you don't necessarily need the video.
2:48
SPEAKER_00: You should probably be vigilant if you're driving, even if you're on a on a on the L train, on the subway.
2:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm hoping that you keep in track of your surroundings.
2:55
SPEAKER_00: So let's just do audio and y'all let me know what you think.
2:58
SPEAKER_00: Leave a like, subscribe, um, hit me up on Twitter with the hashtag askkb, and maybe you'll be featured in the next episode or the next big mailbag.
3:05
SPEAKER_00: Let's get into it.
3:11
SPEAKER_00: First question comes from Tariq or Tarek.
3:13
SPEAKER_00: I never really know how to pronounce it, but he's been around for a very long time, supporting all of my ventures.
3:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, we're hearing that the Knicks and Lakers, amongst other teams, are interested in Bruce Brown.
3:22
SPEAKER_00: Who would you like to see him get traded to?
3:24
SPEAKER_00: Slash two, where do you think he actually lands?
3:26
SPEAKER_00: Now, the second question, I don't really know.
3:28
SPEAKER_00: I have a hard time gauging these type of things.
3:30
SPEAKER_00: Like you can read as many rumors as you want about a team being interested, but you never really know what's gonna be the determinant factor for the front office.
3:36
SPEAKER_00: We just saw the Toronto Raptors pull off one trade where they wanted the real NBA players and getting um RJ Barry menu quickly for OG Ananobi.
3:43
SPEAKER_00: And then another trade, they got draft capital almost exclusively, including Bruce Brown.
3:47
SPEAKER_00: So you never really know what Masai's head is at, or just any general manager.
3:50
SPEAKER_00: So I'm not gonna try to predict where he lands.
3:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I want to talk about the two teams that you have mentioned here.
3:55
SPEAKER_00: The first one, uh, the New York Knicks.
3:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, Bruce Brown was asked.
3:59
SPEAKER_00: We have this is so interesting in NBA culture right now because I think I mean maybe I'm just maybe this is not the truth, and I'm just being more cognizant of it.
4:07
SPEAKER_00: It feels like more time than ever, we're getting actual players talk about the rumors surrounding them.
4:13
SPEAKER_00: Just in this week alone, DeJounte Murray was asked about the Spurs.
4:16
SPEAKER_00: He said it would be a pleasure to play for the Spurs again.
4:18
SPEAKER_00: Greg Popovich is like a father figure to me.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: Brother, you still play for the Atlanta Hawks.
4:23
SPEAKER_00: And now Bruce Brown was asked about playing for the Knicks, and he said, I could do everything Tom Thibodeau wants.
4:31
SPEAKER_00: Like that.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, maybe this happened again 10 years ago and I just wasn't paying attention, but it feels like right now, more than ever, we're getting players actually talking about it.
4:39
SPEAKER_00: Like, did the way that Bruce Brown quote read, and again, I didn't hear it, I read it, so maybe his voice said otherwise, but the way it reads is like, New York, come get me.
4:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, what how does how does he fit there?
4:52
SPEAKER_00: So when I think about Bruce Brown, obviously he was a huge, huge part of that championship run for the Denver Nuggets, and he's one of those glue guys do a little bit of everything can cut.
4:59
SPEAKER_00: Uh, right now his three-point shot is down to 34% um on a bunch of attempts.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: So it's not as good as it was last year, where he's 36 or 38% the year before that.
5:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, but he's a guy that if you're trading for him with his$20 million contract, not guaranteed next season, but a team option, you're trading for that type of contract, you're trading for that type of player to close out games, and at least at least in most cases, because that felt like in their championship run, he was that perfect fifth player on the court for them when they needed it the most, right?
5:26
SPEAKER_00: When I look at the New York Knicks, and though this could be a place he lands up, and I wouldn't hate it, I also feel like they got Bruce Brown on the roster already.
5:34
SPEAKER_00: Or players similar to Bruce Brown already on the roster.
5:37
SPEAKER_00: Now you can make an argument who's better, Bruce Brown or Josh Hart.
5:39
SPEAKER_00: You make an argument who's better, and at least in closing lineups, because that's what I'm thinking about for Bruce Brown.
5:44
SPEAKER_00: Who's better in the closing lineup for the New York Knicks?
5:46
SPEAKER_00: Is it Dante DiVincenzo who's shooting over 40% from from three this season?
5:50
SPEAKER_00: Or is it Bruce Brown who's shooting again 34% from three this season?
5:54
SPEAKER_00: It feels like the Knicks would have so much more overlapping talent.
5:57
SPEAKER_00: But again, this could be just a depth play.
5:59
SPEAKER_00: We got rid of Emmanuel quickly, we got rid of RJ Baird and only brought back in, well, I guess you brought in two bodies because Precious just had a double double the other day, but only got back uh one body on the wing, let's say, or as a ball handler, whatever you want to call it, and Bruce Brown can can kind of be that.
6:13
SPEAKER_00: But I'm not completely convinced.
6:14
SPEAKER_00: Now, I do believe that it will be malpractice if the Knicks go this entire deadline without trading that Evan Fournier contract, plus one of the plethora of the picks that they have.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: They have so many picks right now that, and some of them not even their own, that if they don't package Evan Fournier in one of those picks to just improve their talent, I feel like they're doing something wrong.
6:31
SPEAKER_00: I don't, again, I don't know if Bruce Brown is that play, but if it is, I wouldn't be too mad.
6:35
SPEAKER_00: But if they decide to go another direction, I can I completely, completely understand.
6:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, when you talk about the Lakers, though, he he definitely, again, as as far as talent goes, he's a guy that can come into a locker room.
6:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, we saw his first game with the the Raptors when they played against the Bulls.
6:50
SPEAKER_00: He immediately came in off the plane, three hours off the plane, no practice.
6:53
SPEAKER_00: Oh, basically walking to the uh locker room saying, What up, y'all?
6:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm Bruce.
6:56
SPEAKER_00: And he came out and gave them a really, really good performance without knowing anybody, the tendencies of his teammates.
7:02
SPEAKER_00: He's one of those just I'm here and I'm gonna do my job type players.
7:06
SPEAKER_00: And maybe the Lakers just need that type of stuff.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: But again, one of the things the main one of the major problems with this Lakers season so far is their lack of three-point shooting.
7:14
SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna bring up the 34% again because that doesn't help them too much.
7:17
SPEAKER_00: It's better than Cam Reddish's 29%.
7:20
SPEAKER_00: But is that 5% difference really worth trading D'Angelo Russell?
7:25
SPEAKER_00: Because with the$20 million that's prop promised for Bruce Brown, you kind of have to package in some of the people that are on your roster already.
7:31
SPEAKER_00: The Knicks would maybe a better fit because you're just trading ever Fournier.
7:34
SPEAKER_00: The brothers don't even play like that.
7:35
SPEAKER_00: You don't play at all, really.
7:37
SPEAKER_00: So that's a dead contract, nonetheless.
7:39
SPEAKER_00: Now, with the Lakers, you have to give up people that are actually performing for you, whether they're disappointing or they're playing support or playing phenomenally for their role, you have to give up something.
7:48
SPEAKER_00: And with the the Lakers, this is the major thing for the Lakers.
7:51
SPEAKER_00: Again, there are a lot of different things.
7:52
SPEAKER_00: Some people are gonna say Darwin, some people are gonna say everybody else outside of uh um LeBron and Anthony Davis.
7:58
SPEAKER_00: Right now, every single game for the LA Lakers, they're starting off down by 12 points.
8:05
SPEAKER_00: When you look at how many three-pointers they make versus how many they give up, they give up four more than they make.
8:13
SPEAKER_00: So every single night, they're in a whole 12 points.
8:18
SPEAKER_00: They just need to improve, they don't, it's not just need, but they definitely need to prove the three-point shooting and get more attempts up because they're dead last in attempts.
8:24
SPEAKER_00: And again, Bruce Brown can provide some of that.
8:26
SPEAKER_00: It's an upgrade from some of the other people on the roster, but it's still maybe not enough, especially you consider you got to get rid of somebody else.
8:31
SPEAKER_00: So I don't really love it for the Lakers and not really love it for the Knicks either, but I understand it from the Knicks perspective, I guess.
8:36
SPEAKER_00: And and for the Lakers, I feel as though they're probably people that fit what they want to do, maybe a little bit more than Bruce Brown.
8:43
SPEAKER_00: So the question is who else should be in the market for Brucey?
8:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, I kind of like Dallas.
8:48
SPEAKER_00: Dallas, another thing that can uh get that money up there without giving up anything too significant in their rotation.
8:54
SPEAKER_00: And I've read a couple different sources of people trying to speculate the value of Bruce Brown right now.
8:58
SPEAKER_00: Some people are saying it might be a low-value first-round pick, some people are saying it might be a couple good seconds.
9:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't really know.
9:04
SPEAKER_00: I guess time will tell.
9:05
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we still didn't even know completely if Masia and him are thinking about trading him.
9:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I kind of like Dallas.
9:10
SPEAKER_00: I like Dallas's lineup of uh Luke, uh Luka Doncic, Kari Irvin, Dante Exom, um, Derrick Jones Jr., and Derek Lively.
9:18
SPEAKER_00: So if I'm if I'm traded for Bruce Brown, that means that Dante Eksum is probably allocated to the bench and not in these closing lineups.
9:24
SPEAKER_00: And you can decide for yourself what you think about that.
9:25
SPEAKER_00: But Dante Eksum has been phenomenal.
9:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, just he had to get back from his injury.
9:29
SPEAKER_00: But the the minutes of him, Kyrie and Luca are like plus ridiculous in 45 minutes.
9:34
SPEAKER_00: I forget the exact number, but it's ridiculous.
9:36
SPEAKER_00: So maybe you just say, hey, we'd rather use the dead contract of Rashawn Holmes plus some other stuff.
9:41
SPEAKER_00: And I think they have a one tradable first-round pick.
9:43
SPEAKER_00: I could be mistaken there.
9:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, and maybe go a different, a different route because we feel good about Dante Exum.
9:48
SPEAKER_00: I don't really know.
9:49
SPEAKER_00: I thought about OKC for some time, but that just adds another smallish guard slash forward to OKC.
9:55
SPEAKER_00: And they got a plethora of plethora of those.
9:57
SPEAKER_00: I think that that Davis Bertenz contract is another one, just like how I mentor ever Fournier.
10:02
SPEAKER_00: If it's not moved to the deadline, Sam Presley's tripping.
10:04
SPEAKER_00: Like you have to package that and something else, maybe one of the seven, 15 first-round picks you have over the last next five years, and say, here's another body.
10:13
SPEAKER_00: Don't even have to be somebody that's great, but somebody that can be a rotational player.
10:16
SPEAKER_00: And I'm hoping that it's more of a big versus a 6'3, 6'4 wing.
10:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then I kind of like Philly.
10:24
SPEAKER_00: I kind of like Philly.
10:25
SPEAKER_00: And the reason I like that is because it feels as though the 76ers are trying to stay with that calf flexibility.
10:30
SPEAKER_00: And if they trade for Bruce Brown right now, it can help them be better this season, but ultimately you don't have to give him that team option, and that keeps you with the amount of money that you want for free agency.
10:41
SPEAKER_00: So I think Philly makes some sense.
10:43
SPEAKER_00: If they trade for Bruce Brown, though I feel like it puts him over the hump, maybe not so much, but it puts him again in the right direction as a guy that we just saw when he played against the other great greatest sin in the league, added a lot of value, and we watched Joel L become more of a plus passer over the last couple seasons.
10:58
SPEAKER_00: He cannot maybe not he can't replicate now.
11:00
SPEAKER_00: He definitely can't replicate what Jokic was doing on them cuts and and uh Bruce Brown being in the right place, but it can be close-ish.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: Is that way too much time on Bruce Brown?
11:09
SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's what I'm saying.
11:10
SPEAKER_00: I never really know.
11:11
SPEAKER_00: I never really know.
11:12
SPEAKER_00: Smalls, my boy Brady, one of the OGs, he's he's been here for man, maybe eight, nine years.
11:20
SPEAKER_00: I don't even know how long me and Smalls have been cool.
11:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, ask A B, is there a chance that Dwight makes it in the NBA top 100 in 25 years, or is the incoming talent too good for him to make it?
11:33
SPEAKER_00: Um, Dwight Howard, 1000% should have been on NBA 75.
11:38
SPEAKER_00: The problem with NBA 75 as I saw it was that they they took the NBA 50 and didn't move anybody out.
11:44
SPEAKER_00: Which, again, a decision.
11:46
SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
11:46
SPEAKER_00: That's that's okay, that's okay.
11:47
SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day, I think the talent level in the NBA over the last uh, I guess, 25 years is just so much more.
11:55
SPEAKER_00: So some of those guys they made the NBA 50 have no business being over there over Dwight Howard.
12:01
SPEAKER_00: But because they they grandfathered everybody in, Dwight didn't make it.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: And hell, there are people that did make it that Dwight had a better career than.
12:10
SPEAKER_00: So it was so confusing to me when that was all announced and D-12 was not there.
12:15
SPEAKER_00: There are a lot of people that were snug, but D-12's at the top of the list, if you ask me.
12:18
SPEAKER_00: Pal Gasol has made, I think, four All-NBA appearances, two NBA championships, six All-Stars.
12:22
SPEAKER_00: That sounds like the career of one of the top 75 players in basketball.
12:26
SPEAKER_00: Tony Parker, another guy.
12:27
SPEAKER_00: Now, he may not have been him, same thing with Pal Gasol.
12:30
SPEAKER_00: These guys were not number one options on their championship teams, but hell, Tony Parker got a finals MVP.
12:35
SPEAKER_00: And he was an all-NBA player four times in a loaded Western Conference guard class.
12:41
SPEAKER_00: It just there are a lot of players that were snub.
12:43
SPEAKER_00: Dwight Howard's at the top of my list.
12:44
SPEAKER_00: So to get back to your question, if he is not in the NBA 75, I don't know what to tell you, right?
12:49
SPEAKER_00: Here are the people that if when we get to the the 100, there should be in considerations.
12:55
SPEAKER_00: The people that were snub, again, Dwight Howard, Pal Gasal, Tony Parker, Chris Bosch.
13:00
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he makes it, but again, he's had he had a really good NBA career, Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady, right?
13:06
SPEAKER_00: Um, I think Dwight Howard has a better career than all of those players personally.
13:09
SPEAKER_00: That's just my opinion.
13:10
SPEAKER_00: You might disagree.
13:11
SPEAKER_00: Now, the future players, remember, if they're keeping it the same way, where they don't knock anybody out, they're just adding 25 new names, it's gonna be rough.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: And we don't even know.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: We're in 2024.
13:23
SPEAKER_00: Ooh, I can't do the quick math.
13:25
SPEAKER_00: But we're talking 21 year, 22 years in the future.
13:29
SPEAKER_00: I think that's right.
13:30
SPEAKER_00: 22 years in the future, we don't know who's coming through that draft in a couple years.
13:33
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
13:34
SPEAKER_00: And how good they could potentially be.
13:35
SPEAKER_00: So I'm just looking at the talent that we know right now.
13:38
SPEAKER_00: The people that I feel like are future locks, Nicole Jokers didn't make the first one, which is interesting.
13:42
SPEAKER_00: Uh at that time, he had only had one MVP and he had he didn't have a championship.
13:47
SPEAKER_00: But when the NBA 75 came out, Shaq was like a near three, and they were like, oh, this man is a dog.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: He might not show up right now, but we're damn confident that we will not be wrong about this.
13:58
SPEAKER_00: So they put Shaq in.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: Um and they weren't wrong.
14:00
SPEAKER_00: Shaq is one of the best players of all time.
14:02
SPEAKER_00: I think that Jokic, I could have saw the writing on the wall that that brother was gonna do a little bit more.
14:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he was in the middle of his second MVP season, you know, and and the only person to win an MVP and not make it again, other than Jokic, was Derek Rose.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: And Derek Rose don't he doesn't have the career like the other MVP.
14:19
SPEAKER_00: So it makes sense.
14:20
SPEAKER_00: Jokic is a lock, Jordan Bede is a lock, Luka Doncic is a lock, he has the same all NBA appearances as Pal Gasal, the brother's younger than I am.
14:29
SPEAKER_00: Like it makes no sense.
14:31
SPEAKER_00: I think Tatum will eventually end up as a lock.
14:34
SPEAKER_00: And then we get to like Devin Booker, probably Kyrie Irvin.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: There's a conspiracy theories, which makes sense because Kyrie Irvin, that Kyrie Irvin was in the NBA 75, but because of the what the way we were in the world and his political views that he got scratched from it, I don't know what to believe.
14:52
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what to believe.
14:53
SPEAKER_00: But Kyrie Irvin is a guy that might end up making it on the second time.
14:56
SPEAKER_00: And that don't even count for, like, I mean, it's so early, Shea Gives Alexander.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: We've seen what he's done, but we're talking 24, I mean 22 years in the future.
15:03
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what Shay's career is gonna hold.
15:05
SPEAKER_00: Is he gonna win an MVP?
15:05
SPEAKER_00: Is he gonna win championships?
15:07
SPEAKER_00: Because again, we're talking about the best of the best.
15:09
SPEAKER_00: That don't count for the guys like Victor Wemanyama, or you know what I'm saying, who could potentially have legendary careers because I'm not a Northstronomist.
15:17
SPEAKER_00: And if I was, then when I talk about my FanDuel sportsbook plays, we'd all be eating.
15:22
unknown: Right?
15:22
SPEAKER_00: Right now I'm two for three, though.
15:23
SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, right now I'm two for three.
15:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, Dwight Howard, back to your original question, Smalls, Dwight Howard should 100% be a lock.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: Again, unless this next generation of talent is just so damn good that they make in this generation look trash.
15:36
SPEAKER_00: And again, I think this generation of talent is better than the last generation of talent.
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SPEAKER_00: This is a two-parter.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, the first one comes from Nets fan, official Nets fan said, why do you think Lonnie isn't in six men of the year conversations?
17:00
SPEAKER_00: Now, the reason Lonnie's not in six men of the year conversations, he hasn't played enough games and the the uh Brooklyn Nets suck.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: Uh they suck so bad that they just let today uh the LA Clippers go on a 22-0 run to win a basketball game.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: Now, luckily for them, everybody was watching football, so nobody recognized it.
17:15
SPEAKER_00: Guess who wasn't watching football?
17:17
SPEAKER_00: Well, okay, I was watching both, but I saw it, I saw the run.
17:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, so this is not really about Lonnie Walker, but it got me thinking like, have we seen a six-man of the year winner on a team that wasn't good?
17:30
SPEAKER_00: And the answer is no.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: This is just a little piece of trivia for you for somebody.
17:33
SPEAKER_00: If you just want to throw a random piece of trivia out at a cocktail party with your with your coworkers, um, since 2000, 2000, there's only been one six-man of the year that wasn't on the playoff team.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: And that was 2017-2018 Lou Williams.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: Every single other six men of the year, that's 23 or 22 of the last 23, were the sixth man of the year on a playoff team.
17:57
SPEAKER_00: Now, even Lou Williams' year of 2007 to 2007 to 2018, his team was 42 and 40.
18:03
SPEAKER_00: They just missed it.
18:04
SPEAKER_00: If it wasn't playing, they had an opportunity to win those play-in games, but they missed it.
18:08
SPEAKER_00: So just a random piece of trivia.
18:09
SPEAKER_00: Lonnie Walker hasn't played enough games, and the uh the Nets are ass.
18:12
SPEAKER_00: But getting to the second question that comes from Brendan in this same conversation, what direction do you think the Nets should go?
18:18
SPEAKER_00: They don't have control of their own picks for the next two seasons and have a bad locker room culture that needs Von Gone to repair this.
18:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, do they sell or do they buy?
18:28
SPEAKER_00: Now, Brendan, I went to your account and Brendan uh makes his own content around the Brooklyn Nets.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: So your opinion is probably um better than mine on this because you're in it every single night.
18:37
SPEAKER_00: But from an outsiders perspective, a guy that just watches a bunch of basketball and watch watch your favorite team just be trash and the last five minutes where Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers put the clamps on.
18:46
SPEAKER_00: Um I personally believe, now there's two lines of thought when it comes to the idea like this.
18:51
SPEAKER_00: Well, we don't, this is the first line of thought.
18:53
SPEAKER_00: We don't have all first round picks, so why sell?
18:57
SPEAKER_00: Because us selling right now is just gonna give the Houston Rockets a better pick, and then we just look like fools again.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: And you hear what I'm saying?
19:04
SPEAKER_00: Again, because the same damn situation happened in Brooklyn nuts years ago, but I digress.
19:09
SPEAKER_00: Mindset number two is what's lost is lost.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: Let's shift our organization and get things right the way we want it.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: And personally, where I sit is on the ladder.
19:22
SPEAKER_00: Not the not the ladder, but on the ladder of the two options.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: Because yeah, what's lost is lost.
19:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, they they gave up a fully unprotected pick to the Houston Rockets, and of course the James Harden trade in 2024.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: The Rockets have the right to swap in 2025, and then in 2026 is completely unprotected to the Rockets, too.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: So it's it's rough.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: It's rough, yep.
19:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, and you know what, you know what I will say to the front office over there in Brooklyn, and I feel this, I didn't feel the same way about the the Garnett trade.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: Now, granted, with the Garnett trade, I was a teenager, so what the hell did I know?
19:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I if I am the Brooklyn Nets organization, I look back on that time and be like, damn, it didn't work out.
20:02
SPEAKER_00: But I ain't too, I I mean, I'm mad about the future, but that is that is a thing that 100%, I don't know if they would have made it now because it failed.
20:11
SPEAKER_00: 100% of general managers across the association would have done the same exact thing.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: Kyrie Irvin and Kevin Durant were looking for a team to play basketball.
20:20
SPEAKER_00: Kevin Durant just won two MV, two finals MVPs, two championships, and he was coming off an injury, right?
20:25
SPEAKER_00: So he didn't play that first year in Brooklyn, but he's injured, but he's you know who he is.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: He's he's he's Kevin Durant.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: Kyrie Irvin hit one of the biggest shots we've ever seen.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: It was at 2016 NBA Finals.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: I could be getting my date, my my years wrong there.
20:37
SPEAKER_00: But we saw him be an elite level number two option.
20:39
SPEAKER_00: And at this point, his last couple spots didn't go perfect, like uh Boston didn't go perfect, or Cleveland and imperfect, but he's Kyrie Irvin, and he's play he's got Kevin Durant coming with him.
20:51
SPEAKER_00: I would do everything in my power to make that real.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: And then a little while later, another one of the greatest of all time is like hell, I want to play for you.
21:01
SPEAKER_00: You do that too.
21:02
SPEAKER_00: Now, in hindsight, of course, it did not work.
21:05
SPEAKER_00: But I watched those teams, I watched it when they were healthy.
21:10
SPEAKER_00: That team, if healthy, if I had a million dollars and they said you had to bet it on anything in sports, I am putting 100% of that money on that next team, barring assuming that everybody's healthy.
21:24
SPEAKER_00: That's how dominant they were in the 200 and something minutes that they played together.
21:29
SPEAKER_00: I got to watch it live against my Chicago Bulls.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: Where it was one of the first games where all three of them were healthy, and it was hell for the Bulls.
21:39
SPEAKER_00: Now, it's not like the Bulls were this championship contender, but boy, did they they them boys look ridiculous.
21:45
SPEAKER_00: There was no way to guard that team.
21:48
SPEAKER_00: So if I was in charge of the Brooklyn Nets and all 30 of the general managers across the league were in charge of the Brooklyn Nets, and they got offered that same opportunity to two max spots to bring KD, Kyrie, and Trey for James Harden, they do it.
21:59
SPEAKER_00: Because The idea of winning a championship is over everything.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: And again, they didn't.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: The pandemic hit.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: Kyrie didn't want to do what he wanted to do with his body.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: And everything fell apart.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, there's a lot of factors.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: James Harden pulled his hammy.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh Kevin O'Reilly's toe is on the line.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: There are a lot of things that prevented them from winning.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: But again, every general manager says yes.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: But get back to your original question, Brendan.
22:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: I think what's done is done.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: Personally, I will bite the bullet.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: I'll say, hell, okay, we don't have 2024.
22:30
SPEAKER_00: We don't have, we we might not have 2025, we won't have 2026.
22:34
SPEAKER_00: But what do we have on our roster right now?
22:36
SPEAKER_00: We can get pieces slash future draft capital that won't make up your 2024 first round pick, might be in the top 10, might be in the top five, it might be one for the hell.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: We don't really know.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: Your 2025 might be the same thing.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: And the Houston Rockers are trending more upward.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: So they're right to swap.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: They're probably gonna do that.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: And your 2026 is probably gonna be pretty high too.
22:55
SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: Yes, you did the yes, Jason Tatum's pick eventually.
22:59
SPEAKER_00: Or I guess the Markell Folts pick that was traded for Jason Tatum was your pick.
23:04
SPEAKER_00: The Jalen Brown pick was your pick.
23:07
SPEAKER_00: Okay, it's fine.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: That might happen again.
23:10
SPEAKER_00: That's okay.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: But what did you do last time you were in this situation?
23:14
SPEAKER_00: You said to hell with it.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna build our team our way.
23:17
SPEAKER_00: And you built one of the most fun teams that I've had the pleasure to experience over the last 20 years of me watching NBA.
23:23
SPEAKER_00: It was the D'Angelo Russell slash Karis LaVerjo Harris, Jared Allen, Jared Dutley.
23:30
SPEAKER_00: Like that team was so very fun.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: And I bet there's a ton of Nets fans right now that the reason they love the Nets is because of that team.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: You can replicate that.
23:39
SPEAKER_00: Now, again, that team did not win a playoff series.
23:41
SPEAKER_00: They lost that series against Philadelphia.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: I was there for game one.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: They lost that series.
23:45
SPEAKER_00: But you put yourself back in the position to make the same mistake in hell.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: Keep the cycle going.
23:51
SPEAKER_00: Because maybe next time you trade for three future Hall of Famers, you do win the championship.
23:55
SPEAKER_00: So I'm potentially, and I'm not saying you do it this season completely.
23:59
SPEAKER_00: I don't say you completely get rid of everybody this year, but a guy like Mikhail Bridges is a valuable, valuable piece.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: We saw that last year when you traded for him, how the Grizzlies and the Pelicans and a few other teams will say, hell, we'll give you three to four first-round picks.
24:12
SPEAKER_00: I don't think his value has gone down from then.
24:15
SPEAKER_00: If anything, it might have gone up a little bit because we've seen that he could put the ball on the floor a lot more and he might not be having the same efficiency year as before.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: But if you're trading for him, you're not trading for him to be your one option.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: Hell, maybe you're not even trading him to be your number two, and he's on a very team-friendly contract.
24:29
SPEAKER_00: I would say we're gonna get as many assets as we can for him.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna get as many assets as we can for DFS.
24:34
SPEAKER_00: Uh, special deity has probably negative value because he's the anyway.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: There are people on your roster that teams will be wanting to get.
24:41
SPEAKER_00: And some of those players might not give you a good first-round pick.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: Royce O'Neal's probably not giving you a good first-round pick this year, but it might give you a few seconds that you could use.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
24:49
SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure you gave up a first-round pick to give Royce O'Neal Ledore.
24:53
SPEAKER_00: But that was when you thought that everybody was good.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: I would say, forget our picks.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: Let's go get other people's picks and try to reset everything.
25:00
SPEAKER_00: Because even right now, it felt like this after the the Kevin Durant rate and the Kyrie trait, it was a ragtag group of good NBA players, but nothing more than that.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: And we're seeing that more and more again every single day.
25:13
SPEAKER_00: Um, if you if you believe that they should be buyers because they don't own their own first round picks, I understand it.
25:18
SPEAKER_00: But I think this team is so very far away that even them being buyers right now, with like you're gonna be buyers with those Suns picks.
25:25
SPEAKER_00: Some of those Sons picks are like a 2029, bro.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: Kevin Ratchet 35.
25:28
SPEAKER_00: I want to keep those picks right now until further notice.
25:31
SPEAKER_00: So I will sell.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: It's the first non-NBA related question.
25:34
SPEAKER_00: It comes from Joseph, charges bang.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: Hashtag ask KB, is there anything you want to do in life that you just don't have the time for because of work, whether it be on a long vacation, having another kid?
25:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh my God, don't get me on that conversation.
25:47
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna talk to my wife about this.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm not ready.
25:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, starting a charity or whatever you want to do.
25:52
SPEAKER_00: And the reason I got this is because the charity thing is big for me.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: When when we were in our meetings and I was telling them, uh, my business partners that I wanted to start the Enjoy Basketball brand.
26:02
SPEAKER_00: One of the things that was very high on my priority list was that eventually, again, I didn't know how business works.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: I want I wanted to start the business like, hell, we give an X percentage to charity.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: I want to be a sponsor of um of uh basketball teams in my city of Chicago.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: Little did I know we were very far away in the business aspect to be able to afford those type of things.
26:23
SPEAKER_00: And we're still far away, I would say.
26:25
SPEAKER_00: But the goal for me is to take a percentage of our profitslash whatever we make and enjoy and start or not start a charity, but donate to charity.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, I I go back home to like where I grew up every so often.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: And I just know that there are people that can use help.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, my outlet to get away from the things that were um a part of the neighborhood that we don't really want to talk about or glorify was sports, right?
26:52
SPEAKER_00: Uh I play I play ball, and believe it or not, back in we're talking when I was young, we're talking young, young, 12 years old, uh uh 11 years old.
26:59
SPEAKER_00: I was a relatively good basketball player for my age group, and that was one of the reasons why nobody messed with me.
27:04
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I just know there are people out there that that need an outlet, you know, to stay away from the things that, you know, are are hard to stay away from when you're in that environment.
27:13
SPEAKER_00: So I would like to be a sponsor to and AAU is like, I don't like AAU, you know, just because I think it's bad for the kids' body, they're playing six games in two days, but like some way for us to sponsor, whether it be just some type of hoop team, um, get give give the kids a bunch of sneakers and enjoy basketball, hoop bags.
27:32
SPEAKER_00: Like, I have so many ideas, um, but we're just a little bit too far away from it.
27:36
SPEAKER_00: Um, and part of the reason why we left the previous company to go can to go independent was to open up the doors to try to do some of this stuff.
27:43
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know, again, if this is a 2025 plan or 2028 plan.
27:47
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't tell you.
27:48
SPEAKER_00: But as long as I'm here and enjoy brand is here, we're gonna be continually working to doing stuff where we can give back to the community.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: And I don't mean just our community, but I just mean like the community at large.
27:58
SPEAKER_00: Uh, because I I there are there are people that just can't afford a new pair of hoop shoes every season, but they deserve a pair of hoop shoes every season.
28:06
SPEAKER_00: So I just want to try to be that guy that's like, hell, I I grew up, you know what I'm saying, over here too.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
28:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm from out west.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: And we can all be successful, you know.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: So uh just give people a little, I don't know how to explain it.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: Next one comes from CJ.
28:22
SPEAKER_00: Do you think social media, TikTok slash Instagram, has watered down the excitement and interest due to fans having lower attention spans, leading to the complaints of the season being too long, i.e., uh football felt stale, uh post-in-season tournament NBA feels long, MLB needed a pitch clock, whatever.
28:39
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
28:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, to answer your question, no.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, I do believe I'm a victim of this as well.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: Where I guess I'm so much on the go and trying to do so many different things, I've just grown accustomed to having so many different stimuli at the same time.
28:54
SPEAKER_00: Where on the normal day, I'm trying to watch multiple basketball games.
28:57
SPEAKER_00: I count that as multiple stimuli.
28:59
SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to, this is how crazy it can be.
29:01
SPEAKER_00: If there's two teams who broadcast a booth I don't enjoy, I'm watching the game while simultaneously listening to music slash a podcast.
29:10
SPEAKER_00: Like you don't, I shouldn't need that much stimulation.
29:13
SPEAKER_00: And then sometimes we get to just the timeouts, a 30-second timeout.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: They didn't even cut the commercial.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: I pick up my phone and open like TikTok.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: It's bad.
29:25
SPEAKER_00: And I know I'm not uh alone in this, and um I it's kind of the way it is.
29:30
SPEAKER_00: And I've been trying my hardest.
29:32
SPEAKER_00: I think I'm better now than I was a while ago.
29:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think most people, a lot of people are in this as well.
29:38
SPEAKER_00: To get to your question, I don't think so.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: I think if anything, especially for the game of basketball, social media has enhanced it.
29:44
SPEAKER_00: And and I don't mean to see everybody, I don't mean that and I'm seeing everybody's takes and stuff, but I think there are a lot of people that didn't have the opportunity to really get into basketball until social media start to pop off.
29:56
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if there's many people watching or listen to this that can relate to this, but like accounts like House of Highlights, shout out to the House of Highlights family, accounts like ESPN slash sports center or overtime or all of these brands that will take a bite-sized piece of an NBA game and throw it up on Instagram, probably enrich the love of a lot of kids, uh, like love of the game.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: That's basketball, that's baseball, that's so on and so forth.
30:20
SPEAKER_00: But some of this stuff, I again I can't speak to the football.
30:23
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what the football community thinks.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: I think football just added an extra game the last couple seasons, but the NBA fans have always said that the season's too long.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: Like I find an article from 2003 where it was written that they believe that the NBA season was too long.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: Now, this is one writer, and they didn't even have the writer's name, or maybe this is a collection of writers under this publication, regardless.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: And so in 2003, I found a clip out of people saying that the season was too long.
30:50
SPEAKER_00: That was well before social media was really popping.
30:52
SPEAKER_00: So people believe that 82 games is just long, regardless.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: But I do think that it keeps the league on its toes.
31:00
SPEAKER_00: When you talk about the in-season tournament, one of the reasons the in-season tournament became a thing is because Adam Silver recognized there was a part of the season where they just saw a dip.
31:11
SPEAKER_00: They just saw a dip that people were not watching as often as they did.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: They're like, you know, what could we do?
31:17
SPEAKER_00: Well, soccer kind of have high viewership all season long.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, they got these tournaments where people from across different leagues and play against each other.
31:24
SPEAKER_00: So now you got a league and EPL going against a team over here.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: And it's just so they were like, we're gonna take that.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: And again, the numbers say the in-season tournament had the average viewers that time this year versus that time last year, grew exponential, exponential a lot.
31:41
SPEAKER_00: The pitch clock helped me consume baseball a lot more this year, you know?
31:48
SPEAKER_00: So I think there are some good things that have come from it.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: Again, I understand what you're saying though.
31:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, but you know, I think I think the game of the of NBA slash basketball is as big as it's ever been.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: Now, it might not be as big as ever been as far as how many people are watching a game from start to finish, but as how many people are interested in the league, I think we're at an all-time high.
32:10
SPEAKER_00: Brody said, hashtag AskKB, as someone who bit their built their credibility from the ground up, from YouTube to members of the media.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: Oh man, from 2K in your house to a podcast of Studio J.
32:20
SPEAKER_00: Look at you.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
32:21
SPEAKER_00: Give me my flowers, you're making me blush.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: Um, what is the main thing from your come-up that a follower can take from?
32:29
SPEAKER_00: And what is your long-term career goal you can share?
32:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, what I what I want people to look at when it comes to my come-up, it's the consistency, bro.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: Like, like one thing that has been very, very important to me over these last 10 years of making content is being consistent.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: There has never, there has never been a trade that line.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: I ain't gonna video.
32:55
SPEAKER_00: It has never been a time where there's an opportunity on the table for me to do something cool in basketball that I said no to.
33:04
SPEAKER_00: Even things that I didn't want to do that I didn't see cool, but other people might give me that.
33:10
SPEAKER_00: The content I've dropped over these years, I mean, I've always tried my hardest to A make content to make people smile and make people happy, but ultimately the goal is to further the name.
33:19
SPEAKER_00: And I think that the way I've been able to further the name is by pushing out content, but not just any content.
33:25
SPEAKER_00: Like I highly, highly value 90% of the content that I make.
33:31
SPEAKER_00: Forget the 2K stuff.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: I highly, highly value, like when I'm making the videos, even though again, some of them are just like this, I'm sitting in the room and just chatting basketball, like I'm trying my hardest to put together competent opinions that are displayed in an entertaining manner.
33:48
SPEAKER_00: And if you want to replicate that, whatever that may be, consistency is huge.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: It's just huge.
33:56
SPEAKER_00: What is the long-term goal?
33:58
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I've said this before because when we were when we announced that we were going to Omaha slash ESPN for the numbers on the board podcast, I did a press run, right?
34:04
SPEAKER_00: I got interviewed by the boardroom, I got interviewed by Hollywood uh reporter and some other publications, and I got asked this exact question.
34:12
SPEAKER_00: And um, and I when we start this podcast, I mentioned y'all what my number one is, and it's still the same way.
34:17
SPEAKER_00: I want to have the number one spot.
34:20
SPEAKER_00: The likelihood of me obtaining the number one spot is close to zero percent, and I recognize that, but it's not zero percent, it might be close to zero percent, but it's not zero percent.
34:30
SPEAKER_00: So every single day when I I lock in, the goal is to get to number one.
34:37
SPEAKER_00: And if I if I flounder out at number four, I don't think I failed because how many people end up at number four?
34:43
SPEAKER_00: You know?
34:44
SPEAKER_00: So I'm just trying my hardest to be in that number one spot.
34:48
SPEAKER_00: Complexes did that list, and now complex is not the news, you know what I'm saying?
34:52
SPEAKER_00: Complexes did the list of the 25 most entertaining people in sports media.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: I was 25 on the list.
34:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm I was highly honored to even make the list.
34:58
SPEAKER_00: I flew out to New York for it.
35:00
SPEAKER_00: I was highly, highly honored to make the list with a bunch of goats, a bunch of goats on that list.
35:07
SPEAKER_00: Shannon Sharp was one.
35:09
SPEAKER_00: I understand it.
35:11
SPEAKER_00: Shannon Sharp has some of the best pieces of sports media on the market.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: Nightcap, Club Shay Shay, and that's Club Shea Shay, and of course, is not always uh sports, but as entertaining as can be, I'll never be able to be what he is because I'm not trying to be who he is, but I want the spot he's in.
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SPEAKER_00: Stephen A.
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SPEAKER_00: Smith, I want the spa he's in.
35:32
SPEAKER_00: You know?
35:33
SPEAKER_00: And these are people that have Stephen A.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: Smith has been working for damn near 50 years.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, that's making him a lot older, but 30 years, let's say.
35:40
SPEAKER_00: I don't know the exact number.
35:41
SPEAKER_00: And it happened overnight.
35:44
SPEAKER_00: And I still think that what I'm doing in media, I'm still like I'm a toddler.
35:49
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
35:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm a toddler in my career as a media guy.
35:54
SPEAKER_00: So give me some time.
35:55
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
35:57
SPEAKER_00: Give me some time.
35:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
35:59
SPEAKER_00: I try, I'm trying.
36:00
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm just trying.
36:01
SPEAKER_00: That is the ultimate goal, though.
36:02
SPEAKER_00: What's the play podcast?
36:03
SPEAKER_00: Said, what are your thoughts on Eudonis Haslam getting his his jersey retired?
36:07
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: And I saw him getting clowned for it.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: You know the internet, you know how the internet is.
36:12
SPEAKER_00: I saw him getting clowned for it, which is just it just tells me everything I need to know about what space, what headspace a lot of NBA fans are on.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: Because he's one of the few people, few people to spend an entire career on one organization.
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SPEAKER_00: 20 years.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: Now, of course, he won't sue not for all 20, but 20 years, one organization, he is on a short list of team of people that have ever done that.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: Whether he was doing it as the one option or the 15 option, you know that Yodannis has him had an impact whether he was playing or he was not.
36:43
SPEAKER_00: The day his jersey got retired, he was in the goddamn huddle.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: He's he culture.
36:49
SPEAKER_00: He like, I just need people to realize, and I interviewed him when I used to have a little show called Called Game.
36:55
SPEAKER_00: Some of y'all might know.
36:56
SPEAKER_00: The man was born and raised in Miami, went undrafted, played overseas for a little bit, and got a call from his childhood team.
37:03
SPEAKER_00: Well, oh, not childhood teams, they went around, but his home city said, We want to give you an opportunity to play at home, and he did it for 20 years.
37:14
SPEAKER_00: The stuff off court.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: When you think about his charitable, charitable work, honorable stuff.
37:22
SPEAKER_00: People forget that basketball is not just all numbers.
37:27
SPEAKER_00: This man has been a critical part of the Miami Heat, no matter if they were winning, whether they were in their bad seasons, down years, is one thing that's been consistent, and that's that Udanus has him.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: It's on your ass.
37:41
SPEAKER_00: And he did that.
37:43
SPEAKER_00: He was starting in NBA Finals.
37:45
SPEAKER_00: Let's not let's not act like Udan was a bum because he was very far from it.
37:50
SPEAKER_00: You remember the last five years where he didn't play.
37:52
SPEAKER_00: He was four from a bum.
37:55
SPEAKER_00: He is the type of guy that deserves his jersey retired.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: If you're not the Celtics or you're not the Lakers that have six, seventeen, eighteen NBA championships, you do this type of stuff for people that means the most to your organization.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: This organization has a few championships.
38:11
SPEAKER_00: That's the same organization that they retired MJ's nominee and he played for them.
38:15
SPEAKER_00: You know, Nick Collison got his jersey retired by the OKC Thunder.
38:19
SPEAKER_00: Nick Collison did far less in his NBA career than Yodonis Haslum.
38:24
SPEAKER_00: But both of them deserve it.
38:27
SPEAKER_00: Nick Collison spent his entire career with that organization because he was in Philly.
38:30
SPEAKER_00: I mean in uh Seattle.
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SPEAKER_00: Entire career.
38:33
SPEAKER_00: It's not a single OKC fan that's been around for Nick Collison's career that looked at him and said, Why the hell are they retired in your jersey?
38:41
SPEAKER_00: They're a small market team that had a guy play double-digit years on one roster.
38:47
SPEAKER_00: Like, do you know how rare that is nowadays?
38:50
SPEAKER_00: Like right now, Steph Curry is Draymond Green, I think, and Clay Thompson.
38:55
SPEAKER_00: That's it.
38:57
SPEAKER_00: Kind of.
38:59
SPEAKER_00: I I love it for U D.
39:02
SPEAKER_00: Nobody deserves it more if you ask me now.
39:03
SPEAKER_00: Don't ask me about his post-playing career now, he's got the podcast.
39:06
SPEAKER_00: He's UD, I'm I be hearing you be speaking some some stuff.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: And we not here with the stuff you speaking.
39:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but as a as a player, as what he meant to the organization of D Miami Heat, nobody deserves it more.
39:19
SPEAKER_00: And everybody that has played for the Heat, Braun, Wade, uh, Bosch, these guys that play with him, uh, now currently Jimmy, will tell you the exact same thing.
39:29
SPEAKER_00: Kyle asked, I know there are all these reports about DeJounte Murray being traded from the Hawks, but do you think it's possible they could move Trey Young as well?
39:38
SPEAKER_00: Or instead, also, or instead, also, where do you think a good spot for both of the okay?
39:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: There's a little bit wordy and I there's no punctuation.
39:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, I I've said this before on Twitter.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: Nobody on the Hawks roster should be safe, untouchable.
39:55
SPEAKER_00: Except Jalen Johnson's emerging.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: He his untouchability rate is higher than Trey Young to me.
40:00
SPEAKER_00: Now, does that mean I'm trading Trey Young this year?
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SPEAKER_00: Year?
40:03
SPEAKER_00: Hell no.
40:03
SPEAKER_00: The package would have to be the trade package you get back would have to be really, really good.
40:07
SPEAKER_00: But I'm answering if I am in charge of the Landry Field, Calcover, whoever it is, I'm answering every single call, regardless.
40:14
SPEAKER_00: Because this team has not done enough for me to think that anybody should be untouchable.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: Untouchable, in my opinion, should be to the the Jokices of the Luka Dodges of the world.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: If you're not in that top tier of super stardom, you could go if the trade is right.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: So I would answer the phone.
40:32
SPEAKER_00: Is that room about the Spurs true?
40:34
SPEAKER_00: Hell, let me call them and see what they're thinking.
40:36
SPEAKER_00: Because I would be interested.
40:38
SPEAKER_00: And they got my picks for three of my let my next couple picks.
40:41
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, let's talk.
40:42
SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't think anybody should be untouchable, especially with a team that's underperformed like they have.
40:46
SPEAKER_00: Now, it's not all Trey's fault.
40:48
SPEAKER_00: Trey's been phenomenal for the most part.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: Gay Will Soon, he's in uh Kakusha protocol right now.
40:53
SPEAKER_00: But I would be 100% answering for pretty much anybody.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: Again, that don't mean I'm giving Trey Young away for nothing because I want good value in return for a guy that has been the best player on my team for the last couple seasons, but I'm not shying away from answering those calls.
41:08
SPEAKER_00: You know?
41:09
SPEAKER_00: The problem is finding your Trey Young, finding your building block, your main building block is extremely, extremely tough in the the NBA or just in sports in general.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: You know how hard it is to find a really good quarterback.
41:23
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, I wouldn't know, uh, because I don't keep up that much.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: But I'm just I'm just saying.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: They believe that Trey Young is that guy.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: And he showed us in 2021 that maybe he could be.
41:34
SPEAKER_00: Again, he has not played to the same level then.
41:37
SPEAKER_00: Maybe that was a fluke run.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, um, but I'm just I'm just saying nobody should be safe.
41:44
SPEAKER_00: But I understand the kind of when they say that he's untouchable because finding the player that could be another Trey Young is hard, especially in Atlanta.
41:53
SPEAKER_00: Atlanta is not notorious for having the stars.
41:55
SPEAKER_00: The success that we've seen for the Atlanta Hawks over the last 20 years or so was them doing it by committee.
42:00
SPEAKER_00: It was Al, it was Paul, it was Jeff, it was Cal Core, it was Demari Carroll.
42:04
SPEAKER_00: You know, they didn't have the guy.
42:06
SPEAKER_00: And they might believe that Trey Young is the guy for them because he got them to a conference finals.
42:11
SPEAKER_00: And I think he took two games off the the team that eventually went on to win.
42:14
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
42:15
SPEAKER_00: Like that's that's not easy to do.
42:18
SPEAKER_00: But even with that said, I would take the calls.
42:22
SPEAKER_00: A few more before we get out of here.
42:24
SPEAKER_00: This one comes from J.R.
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SPEAKER_00: Blanks.
42:25
SPEAKER_00: Considering you've done both, do you feel that it's easier to start a podcast solo or with others as well?
42:31
SPEAKER_00: And even if you and even if you have friends who may be into basketball, how do you convince them to do a podcast?
42:37
SPEAKER_00: Hashtag ask KB.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: Let's do the first question, uh the second question first.
42:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, I wouldn't try to force anybody to do anything.
42:43
SPEAKER_00: You could try to convince them, like, hell, you know, you got good opinions, bro.
42:46
SPEAKER_00: You want to talk in front of a microphone.
42:47
SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day, if if your co-host, if that's what you're trying to make them, it's not as dedicated as you, it's not as dedicated to making the content at the frequency or the quality that you are you're wanting, then it's not even worth trying to get them involved, personally.
43:00
SPEAKER_00: Uh, that's that's my opinion.
43:01
SPEAKER_00: Um, what is easier?
43:03
SPEAKER_00: It's 100% easier to do it with people that want to do it.
43:07
SPEAKER_00: You know how easy it is when it's four minds putting together a run of show versus one.
43:12
SPEAKER_00: The Kenny Beach and Podcast has been basically one uh our producer Greg has helped um when needed.
43:16
SPEAKER_00: But for the most part, the run of shows that y'all see every single or two times a week, that's 100% coming for me.
43:22
SPEAKER_00: And it's just it's more difficult than saying, like, yo, homies, what you seeing in basketball right now that you want to talk about.
43:28
SPEAKER_00: I have to hold all of the pressure for the I've had holding the pressure for the last 40 minutes.
43:33
SPEAKER_00: When I got the rest of the guys, I could take two sentences and chill for five minutes if I wanted to.
43:38
SPEAKER_00: Here, you chill for five minutes.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what to tell you.
43:41
SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, it's easier to do it with homies unless you're a control freak and you want it to look exactly the way you want it to look.
43:49
SPEAKER_00: Because then one of the guys got an idea that you don't really rock with, it makes it a little tough.
43:56
SPEAKER_00: You know, uh, I don't really have that.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: For the most part, um, for the most part, the guy.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Guys are like, they and they recognize that like my I'm like the YouTube guy.
44:05
SPEAKER_00: So I kind of have an idea of what works as far as thumbnails and titling and all of this other stuff.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: So they they they follow my lead on that.
44:12
SPEAKER_00: But you know, we all just be in the in the group tab.
44:16
SPEAKER_00: You know, what's the plan?
44:17
SPEAKER_00: The runner show is filled.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: Now I wake up one morning, like, all right, let me add my part, and it's already a bunch.
44:22
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, my part don't even fit.
44:23
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna have a six-hour show.
44:25
SPEAKER_00: So uh doing it with a bunch of homies that are like-minded, and and I don't mean like-minded in takes because I think you need some disagreements to make it a worthwhile pod, but like-minded in your goals, then that is a lot easier.
44:37
SPEAKER_00: Zine, would you agree that not enough has been said about how Wemby's rookie of the year discussion aside has been met and arguably surpassed the ridiculous expectations placed for him, better prospect than LeBron, and he is at least making you think about it.
44:53
SPEAKER_00: They're not gonna like this.
44:55
SPEAKER_00: They're not gonna if you're not actively watching Wemby, you don't understand.
44:58
SPEAKER_00: If you're if you're box score watching Wemby, you're not gonna understand.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: Now, there are a lot of things about Wimby's game that needs to get better, but hell, he's a did he just turn 20?
45:07
SPEAKER_00: Like he's got a lot of time to put it together.
45:09
SPEAKER_00: But based on what I knew about him when he was drafted and all the hype, I agree that he's lived up to it.
45:15
SPEAKER_00: Now, he's still he's in a rookie of the year conversation with him and Chet Holmgren and stuff.
45:18
SPEAKER_00: But the last since Christmas, his numbers have been disgusting.
45:23
SPEAKER_00: 25 points, 11 rebounds, and 24 minutes of play.
45:27
SPEAKER_00: God damn, if they were winning basketball games, then more eyes would be open.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: Now, the NBA nerd slash NBA geek is definitely tuned in.
45:33
SPEAKER_00: So even if you're not watching Spurs games, you're at least seeing the highlights that he's dropping.
45:36
SPEAKER_00: He has met my personal expectations.
45:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, and and to think he's doing what he's doing while he can't, he basically cannot score outside the paint right now.
45:45
SPEAKER_00: Like he's shooting like sub 30% on jump shots.
45:48
SPEAKER_00: Like it's a it's a lot of things that could be better.
45:51
SPEAKER_00: But the thing is that's who that's that's going right now, the defensive impact from the 20-year-old rookie is otherworldly.
45:59
SPEAKER_00: Only only unfortunate part for him is that Chet's defensive impact is great as well.
46:03
SPEAKER_00: If you're asking me whose impact has been greater defensively, I think it has been Wimby, but I can't be mad if you say Chet because Chet is a part of one of the top 10 defensive teams of basketball, and he is the anchor of that.
46:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, but just on the eye test basis, forget all the numbers that might say otherwise.
46:16
SPEAKER_00: When I watch both of these teams play, I'm watching Wimby impact shots and impact defenses more than Chet Homerin.
46:21
SPEAKER_00: But because Chet Homerin is so good as well, again, he's he's also a guy that should be a conversation for for uh all defensive teams, because Chad is so good at it as well.
46:30
SPEAKER_00: Wimby's somewhat like, oh, well, yeah, he's good there, but we got two generational defensive centers in the same class.
46:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: When I say class, but same rookie, you know what I'm saying?
46:39
SPEAKER_00: Both rookies, maybe.
46:41
SPEAKER_00: The guy has been phenomenal, and I cannot wait to the to the the the they turn the table or turn the the corner on team building, and we start to really either develop the talent or get the talent around Wemby where it can be showcased to the highest degree because I still think there are a lot of things that they aren't using him enough of um enough with.
47:00
SPEAKER_00: Even Greg Popich is recognizing like there's certain things that we're not doing correctly, and we're gonna try our hardest to get that in the right place, which I respect from Greg Popovich.
47:09
SPEAKER_00: That's it on the SKB, man.
47:10
SPEAKER_00: We got around to some some NBA questions, we got to some some philosophical stuff.
47:15
SPEAKER_00: Who's making NBA 100 in a couple years?
47:18
SPEAKER_00: You let me know about all of this stuff.
47:19
SPEAKER_00: What do you agree with?
47:20
SPEAKER_00: What do you disagree with?
47:22
SPEAKER_00: My people that are on commutes, you go body that tests, you go put those hours in, do exactly what you're asked to do at work.
47:29
SPEAKER_00: That was sucking.
47:30
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how much I believe that actually.
47:32
SPEAKER_00: That was something I was told a while ago.
47:34
SPEAKER_00: It depends on your field.
47:35
SPEAKER_00: It depends on your field, right?
47:37
SPEAKER_00: When I so my first job, I worked at a movie theater, but it was one of those sit-down, eatery movie theaters, and it was the worst job I've ever had.
47:43
SPEAKER_00: And now, granted, I've only had four jobs, but it was the worst of the four.
47:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I make four jobs other than this content stuff.
47:49
SPEAKER_00: It was the worst of the four.
47:50
SPEAKER_00: Um and and so somebody told me, do what you're asked to do.
47:57
SPEAKER_00: Because at that time I was making minimum wage.
47:59
SPEAKER_00: So, like, why the hell would I go above and beyond this movie theater as a 16-year-old?
48:02
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
48:02
SPEAKER_00: And I I respected that.
48:03
SPEAKER_00: But there are other jobs I've had where being doing what I'm supposed to do wasn't enough for me.
48:08
SPEAKER_00: And that kind of helps me get to ESPN.
48:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, you know, just just do what you see fit with your position.
48:15
SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm gonna say.
48:16
SPEAKER_00: Trust your gut.
48:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I'll see y'all in a couple days with more NBA stuff.
48:20
SPEAKER_00: Maybe there's some trades.
48:21
SPEAKER_00: Trade line is two and a half weeks away, and we ain't seen nothing other than Pascal and Marvin Bagley, who dropped back to back 20s, I think.
48:29
SPEAKER_00: I think.
48:30
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I haven't been keeping up with the Wizards that much.
48:32
SPEAKER_00: All right, I will see y'all.
48:33
SPEAKER_00: Uh see y'all later.
48:35
SPEAKER_00: Peace.