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Bachelors & Tiaras · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. We're back for another week of
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  Speaker 1: the Almost Famous podcast, and yes we're breaking down Matt
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  Speaker 1: James season of The Bachelor, but for one week and
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  Speaker 1: one week only, Matt James shared the screen with her
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  Speaker 1: very own Ashley. I con Eddie and she's here live
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  Speaker 1: to talk about everything behind the scenes. Ashley, what up?
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  Speaker 1: Oh Hey, what's up? Yes? It was an honor. And
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  Speaker 1: now finally I can tell everybody where I actually met Matt,
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  Speaker 1: because you and I have been alluding to talking to
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  Speaker 1: Matt previously and people are like, in the covid age,
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  Speaker 1: how that act? Did you actually meet this guy? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I hosted a date and I have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things to say about how kind he is and the
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  Speaker 1: connections that I saw forming. But first we want to
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  Speaker 1: tell you a little bit about our live event that's
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  Speaker 1: coming up. It's right around the corner. It's Thursday, February eleven.
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  Speaker 1: It's at five pm Pacific time. We're giving away one
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  Speaker 1: hundred tickets the event for four All our listeners have
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  Speaker 1: to do is go to looped live dot com slash
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  Speaker 1: almost Famous. That is l o o p e D
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  Speaker 1: Live dot com slash almost famous and enter with the
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  Speaker 1: code famous. Now, Ben, isn't that right around the release
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  Speaker 1: of your book? Is around the release of the book,
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna be talking about the book a lot
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully answering some questions if anybody wants to send
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  Speaker 1: them in the first two hundred that enter the code
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  Speaker 1: famous gets access to the event. It's a meet and
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  Speaker 1: greet package will also be available, which will also include
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  Speaker 1: a copy of my book. This is gonna be really fun.
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  Speaker 1: I hope that we can talk about the book. February
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  Speaker 1: two is the official launch date, so this will just
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  Speaker 1: be a few days after the book launches, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be something special. I'm really pumped to
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  Speaker 1: be doing this, Ben, How do you feel about your
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  Speaker 1: book coming out in mere weeks My honest opinion or
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  Speaker 1: my really nice like, no, I want your honest opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I know that your your pr opinion is
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  Speaker 1: going to be like I'm so excited blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: But like I know that it's got to be nerve
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  Speaker 1: racking and that you have expectations for yourself. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty incredibly anxious, um and like not super looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to it mostly because it is like it's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a personal memoire and it includes a lot of
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  Speaker 1: my friends and a lot of stuff that like I wrote,
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  Speaker 1: wrote about and if if the book doesn't do well,
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  Speaker 1: I I just know myself and I know my ego,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like I'll take it as a personal
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  Speaker 1: like hit, um more than other stuff. And so like
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm anxious because this is really this is the
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  Speaker 1: biggest thing I've ever done. I've wrote it, produced it,
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  Speaker 1: marketed it, talked about it, and uh, we're getting close.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not like I'm not, I'm not in
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  Speaker 1: great spirits. I'm excited about it. I believe in it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm happy and proud of the book, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: really glad with what came out of it. Um, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just now now is the part where like that part's
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  Speaker 1: done and now it's just the sales, And that part
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  Speaker 1: just gets a little bit intimidating. Is there like a
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  Speaker 1: certain number you're hoping for or are you hoping that
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of strike it's a certain audience. Well,
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  Speaker 1: how are you going to judge success in your own mind? Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting because I was talking to a few friends
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  Speaker 1: of a couple of months ago, and I was telling
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  Speaker 1: them how like anxious I was getting and how nervous
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  Speaker 1: I really am like for this, and they said something
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  Speaker 1: really intriguing to me and said, well, you can be nervous,
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  Speaker 1: but you've got to work on getting your mind right.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, what does that mean. They're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you wrote this book, it's done, it's out there, um,
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  Speaker 1: and you believe in it, and so you've got to
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  Speaker 1: get to the place where if you believe And this
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  Speaker 1: sounds super corny and like, oh, you know, fluffy, but
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  Speaker 1: it's it's true. I have to get to a place
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  Speaker 1: and I'm starting to where if one person's life is
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  Speaker 1: better or they feel less alone by reading the book,
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  Speaker 1: then it's worth it. Like then I'm happy with it.
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  Speaker 1: So like that's where I'm sitting. I don't have a
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  Speaker 1: number of like like books I want to sell necessarily
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  Speaker 1: as much as like now, it's just like, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 1: happy I did it, and I have to be happy
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  Speaker 1: I did it, and if not, like it's all gonna
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  Speaker 1: be worth it worthless. I think that your criteria for
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  Speaker 1: judging its success is the perfect mental That is the
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  Speaker 1: most important thing that it affects somebody out there. And
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  Speaker 1: just just to reiterate, guys, if you want to be
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  Speaker 1: one of those people talking about Ben's book February looped
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  Speaker 1: live dot com slash almost famous and to the code
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  Speaker 1: almost Famous, And unlike other live podcasts we do, this
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  Speaker 1: one's going to be free. The first one people that
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  Speaker 1: enter that code are going to get access to the event.
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  Speaker 1: So put on your calendars. Well, actually, in addition to this,
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  Speaker 1: uh you know, we will start. We're gonna bring air
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  Speaker 1: Carros on here in just a second. But before we do,
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  Speaker 1: we also have a line at my fan threads dot
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  Speaker 1: com backslash almost famous that people should out and check out.
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  Speaker 1: It's a line of apparel, bags, shirts, hats, etcetera. So
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  Speaker 1: go to my fan threads dot com check that out. Um, yes,
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  Speaker 1: bring your questions to the event. I want to answer this.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to be a good time for all of
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  Speaker 1: us to talk and chat. Hey, let's take a break here.
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  Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna recap this episode of
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  Speaker 1: Matt James season of the Bachelor, and who better to
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  Speaker 1: do it than somebody that was on the show, like
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  Speaker 1: in real person, Ashley I CONNETI will be back with
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  Speaker 1: the almost famous podcasts. Okay, guys, what I've been waiting
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  Speaker 1: for for the past week is to talk about what
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  Speaker 1: you didn't see on my date. Let's start in chronological order,
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  Speaker 1: as we always do. We left off last week with
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  Speaker 1: a rose ceremony. We saw Sarah faint and we all wondered,
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  Speaker 1: of all people to faint during a rose ceremony, why Sarah,
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  Speaker 1: who was one of the three women who had a rose.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, there's rumblings that Sarah's doing it for attention,
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  Speaker 1: that she just wants to have extra time with Matt.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe that at all, Um, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: the girls had their thoughts. So this rose ceremony, like
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  Speaker 1: in most rose ceremony number two whos we see a
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  Speaker 1: lot of girls whose names we don't really know get eliminated,
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  Speaker 1: But the name that we know that gets eliminated and
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  Speaker 1: that we're all feeling really really bad for is um
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  Speaker 1: is Maryland. Last week we talked so much about Maryland,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, Ben and I were talking about how
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  Speaker 1: based on the you know, the scenes from the next episode,
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  Speaker 1: it looked like Marylyn was gonna get cut, and she did.
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  Speaker 1: But what was weird about this was that they didn't
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  Speaker 1: really focus on her departure once that night was over,
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  Speaker 1: Like we didn't go back to the house and have
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  Speaker 1: this big pow wow, like, holy crap, I can't believe
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  Speaker 1: that Victoria stayed in Maryland left. No, the drama was
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  Speaker 1: no longer about Victoria. It started to become about Sarah.
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  Speaker 1: Uh so some then, didn't you think that was like bizarre? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean there's so much bizarreness to this episode, right, Um,
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  Speaker 1: but again and and like let's be clear, okay before
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  Speaker 1: we kind of dive too far in, Like you and
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to give Sarah the benefit of the doubt
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  Speaker 1: initially too, We're like, hey, nobody like wants to I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think people want to fake pass out, Like
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  Speaker 1: you stand up there for a long time, then you
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  Speaker 1: get pushed into this in air, Like there is a
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  Speaker 1: lot of nerves, there's a lot of anxieties. But I
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  Speaker 1: think I watched a lot of this episode, um, and
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  Speaker 1: it you know what, maybe this is like maybe this
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  Speaker 1: is going to really show my true colors. It moved
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  Speaker 1: too fast for me at times, like I couldn't keep
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  Speaker 1: up with all the stuff going on, and like how
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  Speaker 1: everybody was feeling about Sarah and who was like breaking
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  Speaker 1: in like it's just too much. Yeah, well now everybody
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  Speaker 1: thinks that Victoria's funny and Sarah is the is the
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  Speaker 1: villain now this episode? Yeah, I sit right because I
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  Speaker 1: think we know as viewers what she's going through with
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  Speaker 1: her dad at home, and we know it wasn't an
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  Speaker 1: easy decision for her to go. And I can't imagine
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  Speaker 1: like how she's feeling every day because as like she
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  Speaker 1: even says, this is so so sad, but like her
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  Speaker 1: dad may not even have months that we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: like he may have weeks, like he may have days,
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  Speaker 1: and she's here away from him, not being able to
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  Speaker 1: communicate with him, and that's a lot to deal with
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  Speaker 1: already on top of a very emotional experience that is
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor. But but hold up and like there is
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  Speaker 1: something here and it's it is skipping ahead a bit um,
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  Speaker 1: But there's a comment made and I just want to
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  Speaker 1: get your clarity on this because it would really First off,
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  Speaker 1: I don't love the fact that Sarah's being viewed as
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  Speaker 1: a villain. I think there's a lot going on right
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  Speaker 1: now in her life and I think she's processing it
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  Speaker 1: and trying to keep up with it, and I think, like,
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  Speaker 1: is she processing it well? Is she keeping is she
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  Speaker 1: taking an account everybody's emotions that she do it? No,
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  Speaker 1: but like right now her situation is not like trivial.
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  Speaker 1: It's a big deal that she's there. And so she
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  Speaker 1: makes a comment later on in the episode that her
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  Speaker 1: dad only has maybe a few weeks left. Now did
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  Speaker 1: you catch that? Yeah, So that's what I'm saying. It's
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  Speaker 1: so like if that's the case, like no wonder things
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  Speaker 1: are heated. Like there's no way she can be the villain,
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  Speaker 1: no way people can be angry at her. These girls
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  Speaker 1: have to understand that, like she has something in front
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  Speaker 1: of her that is pressing well, so that that's the
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  Speaker 1: thing she didn't tell the other girls. The only person
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  Speaker 1: she tells in this whole episode is Katie. And because
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  Speaker 1: Katie was the person you know that she interrupted that
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  Speaker 1: she really maybe directly stole time from. And Katie was
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we are jumping ahead a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but so sweet and receptive, specifically because you know, Katie's
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  Speaker 1: dad had passed away in two thousand and twelves, so
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  Speaker 1: she's been there, and she said that she wasn't there
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  Speaker 1: when her dad passed away, and that's that's something that
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  Speaker 1: she didn't want Sarah to have to you know, live with,
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  Speaker 1: and she encouraged her to leave, but she just had
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  Speaker 1: like a greater sense of empathy for and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: glad that they had that pow wow. What I was
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  Speaker 1: worried about was that Sarah was going to say, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I made the decision to leave. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: tell you, but like my dad has a l S
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  Speaker 1: and this is just like not what I need to
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  Speaker 1: be going through right now. I thought she was going
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  Speaker 1: to go back to Matt's place and then come back
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  Speaker 1: again and say, you know what, he convinced me to stay.
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  Speaker 1: And that would have been a really bad look. That
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  Speaker 1: would have been really, really bad. So I'm glad that
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  Speaker 1: didn't happen, even though I felt the narrative leading that way. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm glad it didn't happen either. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but not because I'm glad to see Sarah go. I
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  Speaker 1: just I mean, this is a big like I think
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  Speaker 1: we should all just take a deep breath and recognize
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  Speaker 1: like how this whole episode plays out and what we
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  Speaker 1: find out in the end, like what we've known the
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  Speaker 1: whole time, right as viewers, is that Sarah has something
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  Speaker 1: going on at home that is is very important and
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  Speaker 1: very serious, and like, yes, there's like moments in this
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  Speaker 1: episode where you're annoyed or you're frustrated to you know,
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  Speaker 1: but let's take a breath and recognize it. Like her
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  Speaker 1: going home takes a lot of courage in itself. Her
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  Speaker 1: being there took a lot of courage in itself. Um
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  Speaker 1: And I hope she goes home, and I hope people
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  Speaker 1: celebrate her for just trying to go on the show
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  Speaker 1: and doing what she did, you know, when she did it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think the audience is going to have probably had
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  Speaker 1: a much different reaction than the girls in the house
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  Speaker 1: just knowing about her dad and the fact that the
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  Speaker 1: other girls didn't know. Um and I understand why she
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  Speaker 1: would be more insecure and needing more comfort from that,
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  Speaker 1: because if she didn't like know exactly where he stood,
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  Speaker 1: which honestly was pretty obvious. You know, they had a
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  Speaker 1: great date last week. It was maybe a little bit
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous for her to have all these insecurities about their relationship,
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  Speaker 1: like their status, when it's pretty obvious that she is
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  Speaker 1: ahead of the game right now. But that aside, I
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  Speaker 1: understand her needing to know more frequently where they stand,
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  Speaker 1: just because she's like, is this worth it? Is this
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  Speaker 1: with my time? Is this worth me not being with
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  Speaker 1: my dad? So it makes sense to me, It makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think that anybody should hold anything again, sir,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, like celebrate both of her decisions. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't remember in recent history, at
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  Speaker 1: least a storyline like Sarah's on the show. I know
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  Speaker 1: we have really hard storylines like right, but like the
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  Speaker 1: the idea that your family member is at home that
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  Speaker 1: time is running short. Um, Like I I just don't
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  Speaker 1: remember that, and it gets gave me. It gives me, uh,
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of like like I just couldn't be there.
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  Speaker 1: I put myself back in those shoes. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I went on the show a month after my dad
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  Speaker 1: had a triple bypass and um, actually three weeks after
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  Speaker 1: he had triple bypass. And I remember just the anxiety
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  Speaker 1: that was like looming over me at that time. Completely
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  Speaker 1: different scenario. Right, he was fine, he was healthy. Um,
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  Speaker 1: But like I just I have a lot of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of feels, I think, is what the kids are
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  Speaker 1: saying these days. For Sarah throughout this experience. Absolutely. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So now that we have fully covered Sarah, let's talk
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about how Victoria just wasn't really villainized
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  Speaker 1: in this episode anymore. She kind of made a transition
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  Speaker 1: into like a Karen like character where the girls were
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  Speaker 1: kind of laughing with her, and they're like kind of
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  Speaker 1: bitching with her too, because they all found somebody else
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  Speaker 1: to get annoyed by, which was Sarah. So they're all like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: like we're bonded together against Sara now instead of bonded
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  Speaker 1: together against Victoria. Then she kind of became the spokesperson
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  Speaker 1: from them for them in ways. I hope this isn't
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  Speaker 1: a theme that continues. I'll say that now. I hope
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  Speaker 1: that this. I just hope that the drama doesn't continue
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  Speaker 1: to be laughed about and accepted. Yeah. Yeah, And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, like, is Victoria just gonna stay around for laughs? Now?
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  Speaker 1: Are people are gonna think that she's funny? I guess, like, well,
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  Speaker 1: we will only know until next week. But I will
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  Speaker 1: say that the group date that I was on was
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  Speaker 1: really that transition period where people just started kind of
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  Speaker 1: laughing at Victoria, and it's because her erotica story was
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  Speaker 1: the most erotic, the most rated. Access I said, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you guys have no idea what it was about. You
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  Speaker 1: have no idea. The entire thing was bleeped out. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't even think I can discuss it here because
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  Speaker 1: this is kind of a PGPG thirteen program. But let's
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  Speaker 1: just say that she was referring to a fetish that
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  Speaker 1: she has, and I'll let you in on what went
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  Speaker 1: on behind the scenes which you didn't get to see.
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  Speaker 1: So the first person that I sit down with to
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  Speaker 1: kind of like go over, not really coach, but like
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  Speaker 1: listen to their stories, see if we had to make
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  Speaker 1: any tweaks, um, see if they were in line with
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  Speaker 1: something that Matt would be interest. I sit down with
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  Speaker 1: Victoria and immediately I'm like, oh, this this girl is
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of an oddball, you know, but like
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what I know now of her. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, this interesting outfit. Um, you know, her outfit
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  Speaker 1: kind of like reflected her personality a little bit. And
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  Speaker 1: what was she wearing wearing She basically had her whole
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  Speaker 1: broxpose through like a tight like it was shirt. It
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  Speaker 1: was like a see through transparent shirt. Um. Anyway, um,
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  Speaker 1: so I sit down and she's just telling me all
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  Speaker 1: about this fetish and my little innocent ears as she
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  Speaker 1: actually called me out on were I was taken aback
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  Speaker 1: only because I was like, this girl has known him
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  Speaker 1: for seven days now. It was seven days. And I
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  Speaker 1: know this because I was quarantined starting on their night
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  Speaker 1: one and I shot on night seven, day seven, And
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  Speaker 1: she would going in depth about what she likes to
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  Speaker 1: physically happen to her during sex, and I was just like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: do you want to tell Matt this right now, like
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  Speaker 1: in front of the audience. Um, do you think that
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  Speaker 1: this is gonna be like something that Matt is going
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  Speaker 1: to be into hearing right now? Because I like got
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  Speaker 1: a kind of a gauge on on Matt when I
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  Speaker 1: got to meet him backstage a little bit, and he
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  Speaker 1: seems so much more innocent and sweet than I imagined.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I thought he was going to have
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  Speaker 1: like a little bit more like hefty swag if that,
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  Speaker 1: if you know what I mean, But like he actually
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  Speaker 1: has like an air of innocence and he's just it
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  Speaker 1: was so sweet. We we've seen him like have religious
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  Speaker 1: moments and stuff, and I was just like, are you
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  Speaker 1: sure that this is something that you want to do,
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  Speaker 1: like right now, seven days into knowing somebody, um in
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  Speaker 1: front of an audience. And she was like, yeah, okay, cool, alright,
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  Speaker 1: do your thing girl. As I said in the episode,
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  Speaker 1: this is gonna be bold. And then a couple of
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  Speaker 1: minutes later, after I sit down with a couple other
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  Speaker 1: girls and go over their stories, she she goes up
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  Speaker 1: to me and she says, um, can I can I
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  Speaker 1: steal you for a second? And I was like my
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  Speaker 1: heart dropped. I'm like I'm back on the show. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, this is scary. What does she have to
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: talk to me about? And she was like, I think
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: you're kind of rude and like kind of judging me
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: for wanting to talk about my fetish. Um. You know,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: maybe she didn't say the word fetish, but she's like about,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: you know, fill in the blank. And I said and
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, not at all of that's like
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: what you're into, Like you should be into it. I
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: just meant like, are you sure like this is the
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: right timing for it, and like Matt's going to be
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: somebody who's interested in hearing it right now. And she
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: was like, well, I have to figure out whether he's
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: into it, because if he's not into it, then I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: may not want to be with him. And I was like, okay, fair,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and that was the end of our our little pow wow.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I was a little scared and uh. And then when
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I sat down to listen to her story with the crowd,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: she said, plug your plug your virgin ears Ashley. I
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: was like, excuse me, I'm married. But that was my
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: little drama with the drama queen herself Victoria. Now, Ashley,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: there's so much breakdown here. First of sorry, that was
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: like a monologue at your moment, you take it um.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: But now, obviously if there's a period of time where
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Victoria felt like you were sex shaming her. The part
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: about this that people listen to the podcast now or
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: people that know you know because there was no sex
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: shaming there. In fact, you you probably were like intrigued
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and interested and supportive. Yet like this isn't like something
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: that you like speak of often, and there's no more
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: like awkward person when it comes to like talking about
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: intimcy before you're you're married, then you because you get giddy,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you with giggle, like it's just it's like it's not
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: something that you like love diving into like you're you know,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: you're you aren't at awkward, You're already gonna be awkward
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: at the point. Yeah, you're already going to be awkward.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: And so there was no section in there, but like
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: it is still shocking, like you have to you're you're
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: you're into it, you're invested, you're listening, and it's shocking
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: to hear this now. It's so shocking that you called me, I,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you know, you called me afterwards on the phone and
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: you said, Ben, I just got off the show. I said, Okay,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: how did it go? And you said, I don't think
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: it went well. It's like, what do you mean it
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: didn't go well? You're hosting the day? How can that
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: not go well? You said, because I just got like
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: how okay? So we gotta ask you here knowing that
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: you weren't sex shaming tow she can do what she
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: wants to do, knowing that this is going to be
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: an awkward date no matter what. It's set up to
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: be awkward and funny? Uh, how did it feel when
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: you like suddenly found yourself in the midst of the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: drama of the show again, Like that has to be
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: so scary. It was terrifying my heart. I'm telling you,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: like dropped and I felt like I was back on
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I felt like I was back on the show. I
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, a cast member again. I
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: did not sign up for this to be a cast member.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I am scared. I don't remember how to deal with drama.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I can't believe I used to at one point be
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: like okay with this. I used to call people out sometimes,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and now I feel like I'm like totally blank minded
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: when somebody comes up to me, it wants to have
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: a you know, have a steal you for a second word. Yeah,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: it was. It was awkward, but ello things that were awkward.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I was reading that passage from Chris
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: from Chris Harrison's book. I could not believe how many
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: passages were just straight up erotica in that book. Because
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: we we went through a few, I had to read
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: a couple of different ones, and then of course they
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: selected a few lines to air, which I told my
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: mom was like, Mom, whatever you do, do not watch
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the first like minute of me on screen. Turn it
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: on mute. Nobody needs to hear this. For all of
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: you out there listening who have watched the episode. I'm
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: so sorry you had to listen to me read that stuff.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Great novel by Chris Harrison, but holy, Ashley, like and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Eddie should not be the narrator for it, Isn't it hilarious?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: So that that is Chris Harrison's book, Like, I mean
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: his brain, like when he put this on paper, his
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: brain was and not a place I've ever known him
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: like I've never seen I've never known him to be
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: that Like that's Hey, that's intense, it's intimate. It's lovely, Okay, Ashley,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: before we move on to the rest of the episode,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: because yes, this part was super fun for me to watch,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and I think fun for many people to watch. Was
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: there anything going on behind the scenes when it came
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: to like Matt's connections or how people were interacting with
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: each other, anything that we didn't show get to see
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: on the show that we should highlight here on the podcast. Totally.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: So you guys know that I've been a fan of
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Rachel's from the beginning, and that's because I did have
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: such a good first impression of her. From that date.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: You felt his connection. The way he looked at her
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: was different than the other girls he was I feel
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: like touching her more. You even see when they exit
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the room that he kind of like has his hand
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: on her lower back. And he was like, so, who
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: do you what do you think of the girls? And
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, Rachel is your girl
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: in the sponge for sure. And you can just kind
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: of tell that he knew that as well. And what
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: was so sweet was her erotica or whatever you want
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: to call it was so narrative. It just felt like
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: a romance novel. It felt like a Nicholas Sparks book
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: with like that single sensual scene at the end or
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: something like that. It wasn't like as explicit as the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: other girls. It was a romance novel. But what did
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: you say she was? What do you say? She was
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: probably the most um well, okay, I guess when you're
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: there in person. Was she the one that was kind
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: of most reserved going into this? Yes? And that's why
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I liked her story because it wasn't like she was
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: doing it for shock value and for laughs. She was
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: doing like she was being herself in this story. She
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: was telling a story that she felt it was just
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: true to her. And that's why she said, like, as
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you guys see as you guys like saw she was like, Okay,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I'm getting to it. It's coming now. It's because she
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: read for a solid three minutes before she got to
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: like the sex scene of her of her writing. It
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: was just like more subduedent. I liked it for I
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: liked it for Matt. There are a couple other notable things.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Katie's was so explicit it that they didn't show any
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of it. Like if you notice, if you go back
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and watch with Katie's reading, they showed the audience faces
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: a lot instead of her actually on stage. And that's
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: because I'm not even joking you. She was like dry
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: humping Matt on that couchy thing. She was all up
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: in his grill. It was hilarious to watch, but yeah,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: definitely not ABC eight o'clock television programming. And then the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: other notable thing is, if you guys remember when Matt's
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: reading his story, a lot of the girls were like, oh,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and like none of what they aired was really like aweworthy. Well,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: he had a great zinger at the end of his story.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: The two like the parents like, okay, so him and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: whoever his wife is like, have this sexy scene in
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the kitchen. But then he was like, and then we
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: had to like quickly break away from each other as
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: we heard the pitter patter of like two sets of
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: feet run down the stairs. So he was alluding to
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: his future kids. And that's what was so cute, so sweet, unbelievable.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Now it's it's it was. I thought it was a
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: super fun day to watch. I mean, yes, I think
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: it was hilarious that they had you host it. And
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: so that's the final question then before we move on
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: to the rest of the episode, is why you actually, like,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: out of anybody in the Bachelor world, why were you
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the one that got the host or whereas asked to
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: host this day in particular? Well, they want, you know,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: as somebody who was so openly a virgin for so
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: long on the show, I had to come out of
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: my comfort zone to talk about that stuff. I needed
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to be vulnerable and grow in that department, and I
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: did so on the show, and they thought that it
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: would be a good parallel for me to have Matt
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and his girls open up about that department. There you go,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Well that makes sense now. I watched and I was like,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: this is the best thing I've ever seen, Ashley. I
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: can Eddie up in front of these girls and then
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Victoria just goes at her and I was like, I
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: love ash but I want to see how this one
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: plays out. All right, hey, Ashley, let's take a break here.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: When we come back, we're going to continue with the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: rest of the episode. Okay, sounds good. And before we
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: do that, can I just say that I also felt
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: like he he did have a pretty solid connection with
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Bree and Lauren. Those are the other two. I think
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Lauren really stood out to me that day as well. Okay,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: now we can take a break, let's do it. Well,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the episode picks back up again and it's Serena's day, Yes,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Serena's day, and they go horse back riding, which I
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: think is always a special date and good no matter
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: where you're at in life. You can do that when
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: you're married, when you're dating, or when you're on a show.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Well here's the part that you always have one or
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: two or multiple of them. But Serena usually likes to
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: take saying slow and that becomes very obvious to us.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: But the Bachelor doesn't allow for that. And so these
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: are always the girls that either surprise you because of
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: how quickly they come out of their shell or they
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: stay reserved. They ended up going home. This was kind
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: of my clue to say, I'm excited about how this
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: date plays out, because is she gonna be able to
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: pick up the steam and pick up the speed at
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: which the bachelor needs her to be? Well, she made
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: quite a point of saying, I'm not falling in love,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: but I am falling in like with Matt. And she
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: probably doesn't even really fall in like very fast, so
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: she is going to the speed of the Bachelor. She's
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: adapting pretty well. What I thought was super weird about
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: the first part of their date was that they were
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: like going to make a charcuterie board, but they didn't.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: They didn't have a board. They had like a place
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Matt and they're just like putting the meat and cheese
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: is on this map. I'm like, come on, this is
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. Why don't we have a pretty board here?
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Good point. Yeah, it's like where the our department. Our
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: department had a lot of work to do. Actually this season,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I mean they were bringing everything in and out of
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: this resort. Uh the whole time. There was no like
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: stage setting. So let's give him a break here, Okay,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: all right, Well then She talks about how her dad
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: was not supportive of her going on the Bachelor, that
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: he had a linear life, which she kind of makes
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: sound like not her style. Uh, went to school, got married, career,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you know, kids, all that, and she wants to be
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: a little bit more adventurous and true to herself. How
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: did your parents react when you were going to go
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: on the Bachelor at Like? Were they gun ho? Because
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: my dad was not My mom was so into it.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I remember them both being confused. I think
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: that's probably the best ways, like what and I don't
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: get it? And what is this gonna do? And like
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: do you have to leave your job? And how much
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: is this going to set you back? Like those are
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the questions. I think a lot of it was more
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: like nobody nobody knew what it was going to include.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: So nobody knew like that, I was it end up
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: going to be six months in my life? If not?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I mean a lot more now I'm still talking about
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: it five years later. But they weren't not supportive. I
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: think they were supported. They were just like more blase
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, So my dad wasn't against it, but
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: he just thought it wasn't going to be like the
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: best career move. He you know, he thought like you're
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: gonna go on you what if you look bad? And
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: then like you can't get a job and blah blah blah,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, Dad, just trust me. I have a
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: good feeling about this. I'm pretty sure it's gonna work
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: out for me. And it did. Um, But let's get
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: back to Serena. So Serena has her first kiss with Matt,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: interrupted by a donkey, which I thought was pretty cool
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: because the donkeys are really cute and it's a fun little,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: uh you know, bluebird like moment. Matt talks about how
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: he had a pet when he was growing up, but
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: his pet was a turtle, and I was like, I
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: don't know, you really have a do you really have
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: like an emotional connection to a turtle? I kind of
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: felt Serena on that. I was like, somebody, get this
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: man a dog. He needs to feel what it is
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: to have a real pet, you know what. I agree,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: and Jessica would agree to. She needs to get herself
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: a dog. She's been asking me about that. Yeah, do it,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: do it, do it. It's time for Ben to have
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: another dog, because you guys, Ben was so attached to
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: his dog as a kid that when it passed away,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: he just couldn't ever, I still don't know exactly. Yeah,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: well a little side check, but yeah, I can cannot
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: other other people relate with that. You have a dog
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you love so much that when she the dog passes,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you just can't imagine get another one. And I haven't
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: because it hurt so bad. But anyways, yeah, get the
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: guy dog. Yeah. Okay. So then they go to date
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: night and this is where she says to him, you know,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: like I'm falling in like with you. She talks about
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: how her past break up, her one only serious relationship,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: was really really painful for her. Um, she imagined that
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: she was going to marry him. Um, she says. You know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: they talk about how he dates to marry and Um,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: she just said that looking back, she knows that she
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: was in love. Um. But he says that looking back
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: on his ex he doesn't think that he's in love
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: like he was in love with her like he did
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: at the time, but then looking back on it, he
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't think that he was actually in love with Actually,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: this is where I need your hope. Now the kids
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: these days are saying this, I'm falling in like with
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: you now. I don't know what that means, because when
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I'm dating, or when I was dating, I would like
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: like them pretty much right away or not like them
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: right like. There's no falling in like, like does that
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: mean like right now? I don't even know if I
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: like you, like I'm into this, Like, what does it
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: mean to be falling into like? Don't I mean if
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: you're there and you're kissing him and you're like going on, like,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: aren't you already liking him? Yes, you're liking him, you're
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: looking him. It's a cute way of saying I'm not
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: ready to say I love you. Yeah, but falling in
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: like I think it's just like a cute play on
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the whole situation. All right, But you're right, it's definitely
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: just like I like you, because there's obviously feelings they're
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: falling in like would be crushing. I think that's just
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: like the verb yeah, I'm crushing on you hard well. Actually,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: obviously this was Serena's day. Did you like this day?
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: To move on? Then to the final part of the episode, Okay,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: it was fine. I agree that this was fine. I
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: thought that the last two days, the one on ones
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: that we saw last week, there was a lot more
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: chemistry and this one just felt fine to me. Well,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: the the end of the episode then, is when we
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: talked about at the beginning, and we'll close with it.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Here is Sarah's final goodbyes. This was an emotional thing.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: This was tough. Uh. This was you know, one of
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the first like really important moments for Matt as the bachelor. Uh,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: how did he handle it? And then also like how
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: did how did you feel like the girls handled this
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: situation and what can we expect moving forward? Well, I
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: feel like the girls definitely felt like a little bit
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: bad for the way that they acted, for her interrupting previously,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: or her being antisocial because I found out that like
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: her dad, you know about her dad. But I feel
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: like Matt could not have handled the situation any better.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Why is he so good at what he does? He
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: seriously is so amazing at this. He says that he's
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: going to keep thinking about her, keep praying for her. Um,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you know, he's obviously sad that she's not going to
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: be around, but you know knows that she's doing this
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: for a very important reason. Um, you know, he just
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: could It's such such a gentleman, and and that the
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: guy that she marries, he says, will be extremely lucky.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: And it's just so sweet, so sweet. It makes me
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: feel like, hey, at the end of this, if he
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't end up with somebody, or he does and it
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't work out, he should revisit things. To Sarah. I
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: think that he was kind of thinking that in that moment. Well,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Matt handles himself great. Sarah's exit is one that pulled
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: on all of our heart strings and uh, we wish
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: her the best as she steps away from the show
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: and into her life that she had before. Another great episode, Ashley.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: As we do every week to close out the thought,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: your top three contestants at this point, and you're rating
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: A to F for this episode, I'm going to keep
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: my top three the same um, which is Abigail, Rachel,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: and Brie. I cannot believe that next week there will
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: be five new girls entering. This is insanity. This is
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: actually what I've always wanted. I think that I suggested
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: this to the producers when I was there. I was like,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: you know, it would be really fun if like a
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: day or two into this, a whole bunch of other
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: girls come in. That's great for me as I view
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: are horrible for the girls that are already in there.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: We thought that we were only going to see Heather
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: and maybe one of Matt's x is joined. But it
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: looks like a whole bunch of new girls come and
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Anna is saying that somebody might be an escort. Anna
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: is so funny. She's just a little annoying, but like
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Anna is the girl that One she talks like Megan
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Fox does in the Olsen Twin movie. And two she
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: um just is obsessed with drama, like she is there
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: to just bitch about people. Well, it's gonna be a
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: wild week. Yes, we have some new guests coming on.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Matt has had to learn a lot of people's names
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: at this point. I know his Night one felt like
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: there was a ton of people. Just wait till five
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: new girls come on, including Head there. My top three, Uh, well,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: you didn't give the A to F for the episode.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Oh um, it gets a B plus for sure. It's like,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it wasn't like the juiciest. Next week
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: might be the juiciest. So my top three, I'm gonna
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: put Katie in this week. I know it was a
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: tough go for a bit on Katie and I know
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: she she didn't know the whole story, but I really
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: appreciated the way, uh, this kind of played out with
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: her on this episode. I was like Abigail and I
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: like Rachel. I think Abigail and Rachel are far and beyond,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: and I think Bree uh is up there as well,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: maybe tied for third at this point. Um, Ashley, I
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: take it back. This episod gets an A because I
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: wasn't it and how could I not give something that
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I was in? And A there you go, ash Well,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I'll give it an eight to just for you. Hey,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: let's take a break. When we come back, we're gonna
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: go break down Bachelor headlines from this week. Uh, and
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna close with an interview from Erica Rose. Yes,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Erica Rose from Bachelor season nine. If you don't remember,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: she was on Lorenzo season of The Bachelor. She's gonna
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: talk about what it means to be a queen of princess,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: whatever the heck is going on. Hey, we'll be back
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: with the almost famous podcasts. Alright, we're back with Bachelor headlines.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: The very first headlines Matt James contestant Sarah Trott, who
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: we just spoke about who left this week from the show.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Spotted leaving club with g Easy. This was pre Bachelor,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: but a big story, big story. Yeah. Back in March
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: early Sarah was seeing with g Easy at a nightclub.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: It's called Delilah's, right right around the corner from my
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: apartment in West Hollywood, and she seems to have been
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: there for a friend's birthday party. Uh, no other info
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: except for the fact that they looked like they were
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: like maybe leaving together. Yeah, paparazzi shots. It's a paparazzi shot.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: So uh, just so interesting to me how people still
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: find that stuff, Like how do you go back and
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: look at pictures and go, oh, it's Sarah trot from
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the back. I just don't. It's so much work to do. Hey,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: we talked about it last week. It's something funny that
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Matt James does. He kisses with his eyes open, not
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: just like one or two times, like pretty commonly. Uh,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: And people started to talk about it last week on
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: the episode. Well, Matt James had a great response to
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: his friend Tyler Cameron, who was trolling him for kissing
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: with his eyes open. So Tyler tweeted him ao Matt James,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: what we got going on over here with a pick
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: sure of him with his eyes open, and then Matt
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: responds by saying, got to make sure no one is
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: sneaking up on us. When your eyes are closed, anything
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: can happen. It's for both of our protection. Is a
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: great response, super funny, And of course I had to
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: watch this episode with his open eyed kisses in mind,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and I did notice that most of them again in
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: this episode, we're open eyed. Now. I gotta say that,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: like they're like they're like I would say a quarter open, right,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Like they're pretty closed, but so maybe he can see
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: like a little bit, he could see a little lip
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the opens open. You can't say if they're open, they're open.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if they're half open or or like
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: four open. If you're if you're if they're open, they're open. Yeah.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: But I don't think like he's looking at anything, you know,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Like I'm doing it right now as we speak, Like
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I got my eyes like a fourth open. It's like
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: all I see are kind of like my bottom lid,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Like I don't really see much else. So it's still
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: something to say. Staring at the girl and I don't
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: know Hey, uh, move on to a story about Claire Crawley. Um,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: obviously there's rumors um going around this week that think
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: that Claire Crawley and Dale Moss have split. Now we
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: just want to pause here and see we have had
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: nothing confirmed and so we can't confirm from it here
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: or deny it. We just haven't heard. But that's beside
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: the point, because this headline reads, Claire Crawley reunites with mom,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: who battles Alzheimer's after being a part amid COVID. Time
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: is precious, Claire says, So there's a picture that you
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: posted on Instagram of her holding her mom's hand, um,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: and I think it was her left hand, and yet
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: that ring part of the left hand is covered by
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: her mom's hand, And that's what people are really over analyzing.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: The day that she posted this Instagram, she also um
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Dale also posted a Bible passage both of them kind
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: of referring to hard days. And I guess they haven't
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: posted anything together or about each other since these posts
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: went up mid last week, so people are really speculating.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: But it is really sad that it seems like Claire
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: hasn't been able to touch her mom like be in
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: the same room as her mom since the beginning of
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: COVID with her mom's Alzheimer's and in the nursing home
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: that she's in the care facility. So I'm really glad
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: that Claire got to see her mom like that. Has
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: got to be so emotional. I feel so bad for
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: what she's going through. Um, and I really hope that
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: she's not going through any sort of break up at
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the moment either. Yeah. Well, again, we don't know anything
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: about it. We've tried, but then again, how you can't
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: really dig to find out what's going on if nobody's Yeah,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: but we'll keep you updated if we hear anything good
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: or sad. But we do know one couple that is
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: thriving right now, Tassia and Zach and Tassia Adams is
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: keeping zach Clark close to her heart. This according to
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: e News Ashley, how is she doing that? Oh, she's
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: doing it with a necklace. So she had her a
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: T initial on a charm necklace and then she added
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: a Z for Zach or as she likes to say, Zachary.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: They also spent his twenty thirty seventh birthday with a
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: road trip to upstate New York this weekend. So the
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: two are cute and cozy and and enjoying that East
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Coast life together. The Bachelor That's Mike Johnson to host
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: new food focused digital short series That Looks Good. This
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: according to People, Yeah, the show is called That Looks
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Good and it's supposed to celebrate select culinary holidays with
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: viewers by sharing the history of the food and some
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: fun facts, all while eating great meals. It is. It's
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: holiday inspired, like I said, and um, it'll be five
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: episodes dropping monthly, and the first is Mike's and he's
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: going to be selling writing National Bagel Day. So when
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: we talk about holidays, we're not talking Christmas, Thanksgiving. We're
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: talking about those silly days that you get pop pop
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: on your calendar and on your Twitter that says like
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: today's National Donut Day or today's National ice Cream Cone Day.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: So look out for Mike's That Looks Good on National
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Bagel Day coming up. So good. Hey. A couple other
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: headlines here. Ashley our friend Crystal Nielsen and boyfriend Miles
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Bowls move in together. This according to US magazine. Yeah, Um,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: not much more to that, but they moved into her
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: San Diego beach house and the house looks freaking gorgeous.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: So lucky him, and I'm glad that they're you know,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: their their relationship is progressing as her pregnancy is progressing
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: even more. I can't believe she's in her third trimester already.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: That's mind blowing. It's crazy, but hey, we're wishing her
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the best. Carly Wadell plans to give wedding ring to
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: daughter Bella after Evan bas split. I don't need it anymore,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: and she quotes she said, I got a ring when
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I got this dress. Well, actually I got a different
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: ring because if you guys know that they switched rings.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: She didn't love the ring that she got on Bachelor
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: in Paradise, so they like switched it a couple of
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: months in and she said, but you're gonna get it
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: one day. I'm going to give that ring to you.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Isn't that cool? I don't need it anymore. That's what
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: she said in one of her YouTube videos that she
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: was going through Bachelor in Paradise outfits with with Bella
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: and she was like rating them. I don't know, I
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: saw this and like telling her that to her daughter
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: felt weird to me, like right, like you're telling your
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: daughter like I don't need it anymore like that just
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: it feels heavy, Yeah, especially since like that's her dad,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: it's like anymore. Yeah. I mean maybe it's not the
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: best word choice. Uh just hard. I guess the best
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: way to say is it's hard, but it's hard no
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: matter what. Um. Hey, Matt James has been getting some
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: criticism this week. Uh for how can you criticize Matt James. Well,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: he's getting criticism from somebody, uh for not dating black women,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: and he says, I've dated across the board. Dis according
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: to people. Oh so this was actually brought up on
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Mike Johnson and Brian Abslo's new podcast it's called Talk
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Me It Out. And Matt says, people, for some reason,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: think I don't like black women. The last few women
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: that he dated have all been black. So he says,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: People should want you to be happy, regardless if they're white,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: they're black, they're Asian or whatever. He says, I've dated
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: across the board. My dating life looks like what we
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: saw on night one of the show Spanish women, White women,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Asian women, black women, everything that I've ever dated, and
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: what I'm not into isn't race specific. When you're looking
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: for things that aren't race specific, you have to have
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: a broadcast of characters to fill out all those things.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: And thank goodness they had it because it allowed me
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: to enjoy the process the way that it did well. Obviously,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, criticism is gonna come, right. It was my
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: advice to mas like it's gonna happen no matter what. Well,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: that's been all of the headlines for this week. Ashley, Uh,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: great episode so far, but we still have Erica Rose
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: to come on, which I'm really excited to talk to about.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Let's take a break here. When we come back, Erica
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Rose will be joining us on the Almost fame As podcast. Okay, guys,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: we've got Erica Rose on the phone. If you guys
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: don't remember her, she was a contestant on the ninth
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: season The Bachelor of Lorenzo's. She was eliminated in week three,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: but so memorable that who the heck would have thought
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: that she was a limited week three. She returned to
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the second season of Bachelor Pad and she was limited
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: week five there, and then she returned again for Bachelor
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Pad season three. And she was eliminated in week five. Uh.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: And if you guys don't remember Bachelor Pad, you should
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: probably go back and watch because it was like the
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: original Bachelor in Paradise. But most importantly, Erica Rose, the
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: original queen of this franchise, is on the line with us.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Hey Erica, Hey, guys. It's good to see you, guys,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: and hear from you again. Good to hear from you. Um.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: So have you been keeping up this season? Um? I
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: have been keeping up a little bit. I'm not watching
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: it super thoroughly, but of course I've heard about it, um,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: and I like man is the Bachelor, And of course
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I've heard all about Victoria and the fact that she's
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: learning tres. So you the first person on the should
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: ever wear Tierra? As far as I know, I think
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I'm the first person on the Bachelor franchise to wear one.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: And I feel it's important to add that I wore
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: it because Lorenzo was a prince, so it made sense
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: for me to wear it. It wasn't just like a
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: thing that I did for fun or before going on
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: the show, so to me, it was in context. It's uh, okay,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: So let's start here though, Uh, you had a reason
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: to wear this obviously, like being the queen or the princess.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Uh is something that kind of matched your season. But
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: if you could put your like self in Victoria's shoes
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: right now, what is the reason for calling yourself a queen? Like?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: What what would be the hope that you get out
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: of that? So I have no idea. My mom thinks
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: that she's doing it because her name is Victoria and
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: there was a famous queen Victoria. I never thought of that. Possibly.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I started following her on Instagram after hearing about her,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: and I don't see a lot of pictures on her
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Instagram in her crowns or trs, So I'm not sure
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: if she's doing it to get attention or if it's
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: just something that she's doing to feel empowered. When you
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: were on the show and you hammed up the whole
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: like princess thing, you kind of were playing like into
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: a character. Did you feel like you were like were
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: you doing it intentionally? Do you feel like characters like
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: that on the show usually do it intentionally or do
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: you feel like she's just this is her real self? Um?
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: So I think that I was doing it intentionally because
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I wore it to not even the first, you know,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: casting thing that I went to, but then they did
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: a callback or because I knew that it was Prince
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Lorenzo and he was a prince, and of course the
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: producers wanted me to wear it, and I was actually
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: embarrassed to wear it on the first night, so I
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: wore an understated one because I didn't want to make
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: a thing about it, like I didn't want to stand
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: out much honestly, So I felt a little bit uncomfortable
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: about it. But I was encouraged to keep wearing it,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: and so then it became kind of a thing, and
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I felt like I might as well just own it.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: But I will say when I came back for Bachelor Pad,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: like when I first three, but when I came back
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: and I was already in law school at twenty eight,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to wear the tiara anymore. It felt
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: kind of awkward to me, um and it felt like
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: outdated and very juvenile. And so I just feel like
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: there's certain things you can get away with in your
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: early twenties. Yeah, So yeah, I'm not sure if she's
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: being encouraged to wear it. I hope she's not, because
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: that just makes me feel like they're encouraged. If the
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: producers are encouraging it, then I do like it's kind
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: of copying me, and I don't like that. If it's
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: just something that she genuinely does on her own, you know,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: then I can't hate on that. It's it's always intriguing
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: to me. And we talked about it a lot, but
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: and you kind of mentioned it like when you're in
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: your early twenties, you can get away with a little bit.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: You can be a little funny, silly, goofy whatever, right,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: but it's always interesting and quite frankly, if I'm honest,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: like I don't get this part of the show is
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: when contestants go on, they've probably seen the show before,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: they've watched it. They know that the characters never really
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: come off well, right, Like it's always like anybody that's
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: like a little bit more like villainous seems to always
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: have their stick. And so when you kind of like
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: own a stick and you can it's very clear that
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: like this is not going well for you. What do
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you think the mindset is for people? Help me understand
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: this to continue to go go with this? Like why
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: do they continue down this path? So I was actually
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: really um I hadn't really watched a lot of the
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: show when I went on it, to be honest, so
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I actually don't know that, um. And so I was
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: just doing it, you know, like I said, because I
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: wanted to do what they wanted me to do. But
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: also I thought it was all in good fun and
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I was lucky that Lorenzo thought it was funny as well,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and we became good friends. It was even at our wedding.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: We stayed close friends. So I guess I was lucky
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: that way. But I feel like with her, probably it's
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: a similar situation where she feels like she is giving
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: people what they want and she's like enraptured in that character.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: But it can definitely be really really hard. Um it
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: was for me. After the show, I thought people were
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: just gonna laugh and think it was funny. And I
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: literally got hate mail because this was back when people
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: still sit mail and my mom asking how could you
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: raise your daughter, you know, to be so spoiled and entitled?
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: And my mom is literally like crying and heartboken over it.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: So you know, people can just be really mean. So
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: I hope people don't take her too seriously. You know,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: she wants them to but it is. I mean, she
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: seems to really be into this character, but it's hard
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: to know what her motivation is unless she's just trying
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: to get it and she's obviously not really thinking that
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: she's going to be the one to end up with
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Matt either. Yeah, Erica, before we let you go, UM,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: can you give us a little update on how your
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: life is these days? Because you're kind of like l
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Wood's come to life right now. She's got her platinum
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: blonde hair, she's got a pink wall with all her
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: law degrees behind hinder. It's pretty cool. So you're a lawyer,
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  Speaker 1: you work with your husband. Yes, I'm a real lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: We have a real law firm. I actually started it
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  Speaker 1: before he joined me um and so then we merged it.
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  Speaker 1: So it's called Rose Sanders. We're in Houston. We do
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  Speaker 1: I have my specialty entertainment media lab, but we really
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  Speaker 1: deal a lot of family labs and also personal injury,
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  Speaker 1: and we actually really go to court. We're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: in court tomorrow. And I do think of Leglibland sometimes
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  Speaker 1: when her friends show up and they're like, you're like
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  Speaker 1: a real lawyer, because we really are, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: really am a real lawyer. And we have two daughters,
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  Speaker 1: Holland and asked in there four and a half and
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  Speaker 1: two and a half. So it is super busy and
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  Speaker 1: I don't really sit around and think about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the fact that I was on the Bachelor, But of
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: course it comes up sometimes even in court, you know me,
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  Speaker 1: and it's fun, but it's not a huge part of
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  Speaker 1: my everyday life, and I don't really think most of them.
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  Speaker 1: I never assume that my clients know about it unless
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  Speaker 1: they bring it up themselves. Honestly. Yeah, well, I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna follow, It's gonna follow everybody around. And uh, somehow,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: some way, we really appreciate you coming on Erica and
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: uh and sharing some insight into Victoria. We you said
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  Speaker 1: it best so and I think it's something I have
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  Speaker 1: to remember, like you don't want to see anybody get
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  Speaker 1: hated on. But it's just confusing. I think we watched
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  Speaker 1: this and I think my mindset is like I'm just
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  Speaker 1: confused at what's happening and where this is gonna go
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  Speaker 1: and how this can be good. Um, and so hearing
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  Speaker 1: from you really helps, and Hey, come back on soon,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: best luck and everything. Tell your husband hello, thanks for
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: having me, Ashley, it was a pleasure seeing you on
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: this week's episode. I hope we can see you again
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: on more episodes. I know that Chris Harrison stood up
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: for you this week a little bit and said that
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: you did not beg to go back onto this episode.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: In fact, I can't see you begging to go on
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: to an episode like this and and host a date
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: like this. I thoroughly enjoy seeing you, and if you
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: out there enjoy seeing Ashley as well, please message your
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: comment on something make sure she hears from you. The
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: girl deserves some love this week. But it was a
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: great episode, Ashley. We'll be back next week, right with
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: another episode of the Almost Famous podcast. All right, well yeah,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about next week's episode. I just can't believe
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: there's five more women coming in. This is gonna be
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: so good for us at home um and so confusing
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  Speaker 1: for Matt. But until then we will sign off the
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: way we always do. This has been the almost Famous podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening right as a little review,
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  Speaker 1: if you love listening, yeah that sounds nice. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: we love you and we love hearing from you and
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