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Bills hire Joe Brady, Brian Daboll joins Robert Saleh's staff, Belichick NOT going to the HOF · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume What is going on everybody, John Middlecoff three
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Speaker 1: and out podcast. How are we doing out there in
0:21
Speaker 1: the real world? Probably not as good as Joe Brady,
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Speaker 1: who was named the head coach of the Buffalo Bills.
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Speaker 1: So definitely going to dive into that. Day ball hired
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Speaker 1: by Sala to be the offensive coordinator. Love it. The
0:36
Speaker 1: Jets continue to fire people. Right as I was about
0:39
Speaker 1: to record the mail bag, which is going to be
0:42
Speaker 1: at the back of this podcast at John Middlecoff is
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Speaker 1: the Instagram fir in those dms, I got a text
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Speaker 1: from producer Jackson with the chefter tweet that Belichick was
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Speaker 1: denied being a first ballot Hall of Famer people he
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Speaker 1: did not get enough votes. So have to chime in
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Speaker 1: there and then we'll do mail bag. But that's this
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Speaker 1: is relatively recent. I'm sort of shock. I can't believe
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick didn't get enough votes to get into the
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Speechless, honestly, we'll talk about it, but
1:17
Speaker 1: other than that, that'll be the show today and we'll
1:19
Speaker 1: keep on chugging along. I was gonna do a big
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Speaker 1: mail bag and release it like the rest of the
1:24
Speaker 1: week so I could take a little family time. But
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Speaker 1: then the Bills made a higher and it's just too
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1:31
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Speaker 1: But I think we need to start with the Bills
1:59
Speaker 1: because chef throughout this morning, Joe Brady has been hired
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Speaker 1: as the new head coach of Josh Allen's Buffalo Bills.
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Speaker 1: My initial take, like right when I saw it, was
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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean has officially become one of, if not the
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Speaker 1: most powerful GM in the league. Think about that. In
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Speaker 1: a matter of a couple of weeks, Brandon Bean went
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Speaker 1: from a guy who was pretty polarizing, not not that
2:25
Speaker 1: he was bad, but I think opinions were mixed, and
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Speaker 1: in two weeks they fired the coach, they hire the
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and I don't even think it's arguable that
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Speaker 1: he's on the short list with Howie's and John Schneider's
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions in terms of power in that position.
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Speaker 1: And now, unlike Shawn who by the time this year happened,
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Speaker 1: had some juice, had been winning, Like wasn't just gonna
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Speaker 1: do exactly what you said? Not that that's right or wrong, right,
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Speaker 1: A lot of times coaches are not correct in their evaluations.
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Speaker 1: They make short term decisions. So I'm a pro personnel
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Speaker 1: guy having juice when it comes to the roster of
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Speaker 1: the draft, free agency. But there is a you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of a yin and yang between the two guys,
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Speaker 1: and the best relationships are when they're close to equal footing.
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Speaker 1: And I don't even see how it's debatable right now
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Speaker 1: that Beans in charge of the Bills. Brady will coach
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Speaker 1: the Bills, but Beans in charge, he's running this operation
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Speaker 1: which all the pressure now falls on him, and obviously
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Speaker 1: Joe Brady, this is an elite job. I was thinking, like,
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Speaker 1: think how many young or first time head coaches get
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to coach a guy in his prime like
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Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren in the early nineties when he got the Packers.
3:46
Speaker 1: No one knew Brett Farva, that they traded a second
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Speaker 1: round pick for the guy, and obviously he became one
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Speaker 1: of the great quarterbacks of all time. I think you
3:52
Speaker 1: would have to go to Matt Lafleur right when the
3:55
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers job was open, But at the time
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Speaker 1: Rogers was a little older, he hadn't been playing his
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Speaker 1: best football. Now Laflour flipped him around, started to win MVPs,
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Speaker 1: and you know, Laflora's got multiple extensions since. But it's
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Speaker 1: pretty rare, right that a guy in house gets this opportunity.
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Speaker 1: Even look at John Harball, Lamar Jackson, multiple MVPs fired.
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Speaker 1: Now they hired a guy who had worked for the Ravens.
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Speaker 1: But Mintor had been with Harbaugh's brother at Michigan and
4:26
Speaker 1: the Chargers left the nest. And here's the other thing.
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Speaker 1: The difference of Joe Brady and Mintor. Mincher probably could
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Speaker 1: have had six jobs this year. I mean, he definitely
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Speaker 1: could have had the Browns and the Cardinals. I think
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Speaker 1: it's fair to say the Raiders would have hired him,
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Speaker 1: and the Ravens were clearly all over. So this is
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Speaker 1: a guy that over the last couple of years was
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Speaker 1: a very, very hot coaching candidate. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: the same thing can be said for Joe Brady. And
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Speaker 1: I'm not crushing the hire because no one knew that
4:56
Speaker 1: Sean McVay would be Sean McVay. No one, I don't
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Speaker 1: care what they say now, knew that Kevin O'Connell would
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Speaker 1: be spoken about the way he is now. When the
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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings hired, I'm sorry they just didn't. So you
5:08
Speaker 1: just never know. But there's also been a lot of
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Speaker 1: like Cliff Kingsbury's, you know often Brian day Ball left
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Speaker 1: the Bills and was viewed as a can't miss coaching prospect,
5:18
Speaker 1: didn't go that well with the Giants. That's not really arguable.
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Speaker 1: So I look at Joe Brady and I go, this
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Speaker 1: is kind of an easy move, which clearly the quarterback
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Speaker 1: who is sitting in on these meetings is heavily invested in.
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Speaker 1: They don't have to change the offense. The GM knows them,
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Speaker 1: he knows what they look for in players. Pretty easy transition.
5:38
Speaker 1: I heard Albert Breer, I think or someone say that
5:42
Speaker 1: during his presentation the Bills had an area during the
5:46
Speaker 1: interview that discussed your role as a CEO and his
5:50
Speaker 1: angle I guess on that relative to the other coaches
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Speaker 1: was the best. This guy was one of the hottest
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Speaker 1: coaching candidates in all of football four or five years ago.
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Speaker 1: Became a rock star with the LSU Tigers and that
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Speaker 1: Joe Brady team, And there's been some arguments like was
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Speaker 1: he calling the plays? Was the older guy calling the
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Speaker 1: plays who had the jews? Regardless, he became a really
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Speaker 1: hot name and then it kind of got weird, right
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Speaker 1: went to Carolina for Matt Ruhle, got fired, came here
6:18
Speaker 1: as a quarterback coach, Dorsey got fired. I mean, let's
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Speaker 1: face it, McDermott eventually fired a guy to replace it
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Speaker 1: with Joe Brady, who kind of replaced him, you know. Now,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was. This doesn't feel like
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Speaker 1: the Bean situation where it's like he got elevated. They
6:33
Speaker 1: were equals. Like I don't believe, at least as of
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Speaker 1: right now, that like Joe Brady was a part of
6:38
Speaker 1: getting rid of Sean McDermott. But it's pretty clear the Bills,
6:43
Speaker 1: Like we've discussed this a lot, it just happened last year.
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Speaker 1: If the Bucks could do it over again, would they
6:48
Speaker 1: have fired Todd Bowles to elevate Liam Cohen to their
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Speaker 1: head coach. I think it's safe to say, and I'm
6:55
Speaker 1: pro Todd Bowles really liked the guy personally, and I
6:58
Speaker 1: don't think he is as bad of a coach as
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Speaker 1: what was reflected this year. But I get when you
7:04
Speaker 1: have a rough ending to a season, you missed the playoffs,
7:06
Speaker 1: people shit on you. It comes with the territory. He's
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Speaker 1: even acknowledged that. But he's done a pretty good job
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. I don't think it's like
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Speaker 1: anyone would debate if they could do it over again,
7:17
Speaker 1: they would have. They would have got rid of Todd
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Speaker 1: and elevated Liam Coone. That's why they so desperately tried
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Speaker 1: to hire him. I think anytime this defensive situation a
7:25
Speaker 1: long time ago, like if the Falcons had a do over,
7:28
Speaker 1: they would have fired Dan quinn in elevated Kyle And
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Speaker 1: I don't know if this quite felt like that because
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Speaker 1: Joe Brady was not some guy that everyone in the
7:38
Speaker 1: league was lined up to hire. Now, would he eventually
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Speaker 1: become a head coach, probably inevitable, but the pressure now
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Speaker 1: on this job. Let's let's look at the other two
7:48
Speaker 1: big time jobs. Right, the Pittsburgh Steelers hired McCarthy, Tomlin
7:52
Speaker 1: quits slash pushed out. It was just kind of over right.
7:56
Speaker 1: I know logistically he tapped out, but clearly the Steelers
8:02
Speaker 1: like it didn't run its course, kind of run its
8:05
Speaker 1: course in the sense that like the bar's not that high.
8:07
Speaker 1: I know they've been winning, but if Mike McCarthy can
8:10
Speaker 1: just I would say, elevate the offensive side of the ball,
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Speaker 1: get them to a modern offense, and find some sort
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Speaker 1: of young, functional quarterback in the next several years that
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Speaker 1: can shepherd them into the future. It's gonna be viewed
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Speaker 1: as a success. And as he said today, I'm calling
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Speaker 1: the offense. The offense is my baby, and I'm a
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Speaker 1: quarterback guy. So he brings a ton of value there.
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Speaker 1: And I know people are kind of shitting on the higher,
8:35
Speaker 1: but if he gets the quarterback right, it's gonna be
8:38
Speaker 1: viewed as a good higher and mentor Listen, it's a
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Speaker 1: great job. The infrastructure, the MVP quarterback, they draft really well.
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Speaker 1: They didn't just miss the playoffs like they're not exactly.
8:49
Speaker 1: They're not exactly. Coming off a thirteen wins season, the
8:52
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. Well, one of the best organizations in all
8:55
Speaker 1: of professional sports didn't exactly light the world on fire
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Speaker 1: last year, So the bar's pretty low. Look at John Harbaugh,
9:03
Speaker 1: the bar couldn't be any lower. So some of those coaches,
9:06
Speaker 1: in a weird way, little less pressure. I mean there's
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Speaker 1: pressure on McCarthy, like you can't just have an awful year.
9:11
Speaker 1: The owner has said they don't want to throw away
9:14
Speaker 1: a year, but the bar is not that high for
9:16
Speaker 1: relative to how the Steelers have been playing. The bar
9:19
Speaker 1: couldn't be any higher in Buffalo. I mean, how many
9:21
Speaker 1: teams have a higher standard and bar going into next
9:24
Speaker 1: year than the Buffalo Bills. Two or three teams, like
9:27
Speaker 1: the expectation will be win the AFC or bus which
9:30
Speaker 1: isn't even fair. They haven't won the AFC. With Josh Allen,
9:33
Speaker 1: I'd argue anything less than an AFC championship game will
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Speaker 1: be viewed as a disaster. So this young coach, you
9:39
Speaker 1: obviously think, offer you the job, you immediately accept. But
9:43
Speaker 1: the pressure for a smaller market, it's kind of like
9:47
Speaker 1: the Northeast version of the Packers is going to be
9:50
Speaker 1: extremely intense that there is no just anyway, we made
9:53
Speaker 1: the playoffs one and done, that'll be viewed as a
9:56
Speaker 1: complete failure because that's exactly what was just happening. So
10:00
Speaker 1: when you try to do this stepping stone coach, we
10:03
Speaker 1: had run its course with Sean, We're gonna go with
10:06
Speaker 1: this younger hot shot that we think has a higher ceiling.
10:08
Speaker 1: Part of getting the higher ceiling is then taking the step,
10:11
Speaker 1: you know. Famously, Mark Jackson resurrected the Warriors, made them credible.
10:16
Speaker 1: They fired him, pretty controversy all the time. They got
10:19
Speaker 1: Steve kurtz Haard winning chips and became a dynasty. No
10:22
Speaker 1: one's ever talked about Mark Jacksonson's hasn't got a job
10:25
Speaker 1: besides some people on the internet. And if you tell
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Speaker 1: me next year the Bills are the one seed and
10:30
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl Brandon Bean, Terry Pagoula, the organization
10:36
Speaker 1: will be viewed as geniuses. You tell me, it's like
10:40
Speaker 1: they don't win the division again, they don't make it
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Speaker 1: past the first or second round, Like, what the hell's
10:45
Speaker 1: the difference? And I think the shocking part of the fans.
10:49
Speaker 1: As a diehard Bills fan texts me today, there was
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Speaker 1: discussion midway through the season like, is this working with
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Speaker 1: Joe Brady? Now, statistically they've clearly been one of the
10:58
Speaker 1: better offense in the last couple of year. But you
11:01
Speaker 1: know defense that there are rumors right now, is of
11:03
Speaker 1: recording this in the afternoon that Jim Leonard would be
11:07
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, Like that'd be an excellent higher. I
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Speaker 1: just think the expectations, like none of the off season,
11:14
Speaker 1: the draft and free agency, whether it's splashy or not spat,
11:18
Speaker 1: none of it's gonna matter. There is. I mean, you
11:22
Speaker 1: could count on one hand the amount of teams that
11:25
Speaker 1: are gonna be judged from the standard of winning and
11:27
Speaker 1: losing quite like the Bills next year. And you know
11:31
Speaker 1: the GM is gonna be under immense pressure from the
11:34
Speaker 1: fan base, who I think there's some like revisionist history
11:39
Speaker 1: people once the situation happen, started treating Sean McDermott like
11:43
Speaker 1: he was some elite coach. He's a damn good coach.
11:46
Speaker 1: I think the thing that offended most people is they
11:47
Speaker 1: didn't understand how these two weren't on equal footing and
11:51
Speaker 1: now he got to make a higher And I heard
11:54
Speaker 1: Peter Schreeger say this, and he's not wrong. Most GMS
11:57
Speaker 1: that are brought into a situation like this in like
12:00
Speaker 1: an arranged marriage, right or hired by the coach. I
12:04
Speaker 1: forget exactly the semantics of the hiary. I think Sean
12:08
Speaker 1: was first, then maybe Bean came. They were both coming
12:10
Speaker 1: from Carolina. They knew each other, right, they'd worked together
12:13
Speaker 1: for five or six years in Carolina, So it was
12:16
Speaker 1: kind of a package deal a lot like Shane and
12:19
Speaker 1: Dave Paul Well, usually the GM gets to pick his
12:21
Speaker 1: own coach Joe Shane just did with John Harbaugh, though
12:25
Speaker 1: Chris Mara the ownership. Everyone in New York wanted the guy,
12:29
Speaker 1: so it wasn't like, wasn't that crazy of a discussion.
12:33
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm going after this guy named John Harbaugh, like,
12:36
Speaker 1: no shit, buddy. So I think there's a lot of
12:39
Speaker 1: different variables to this. Like I said, Bean, I count
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Speaker 1: on one hand, Howie Roseman, John Schneider, Jason Light like
12:47
Speaker 1: it's Jerry Jones, the GMS with more juice than this guy.
12:51
Speaker 1: And you start listening to those guys like they got
12:53
Speaker 1: super Bowls, right, I mean, they have a lot of
12:56
Speaker 1: power for reason, and I just think that he's going
13:01
Speaker 1: to be a controversial figure if this thing doesn't work,
13:04
Speaker 1: and pressure comes with the territory. This is one of
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Speaker 1: those industries that's very public. Everyone's paying attention rightfully. So
13:11
Speaker 1: it's the most popular sport in America. It's probably the
13:14
Speaker 1: only thing that the majority that you know, twenty thirty
13:18
Speaker 1: forty million people all agree with, Yeah, we're sitting on
13:20
Speaker 1: our couch watching football. That's not the case with anything else,
13:24
Speaker 1: literally nothing else in America that many people are on
13:26
Speaker 1: the same page with. And that's the power of football.
13:29
Speaker 1: It is flown by all these other sports. It's in
13:32
Speaker 1: a different stratosphere. It's like rank the popularity of the sports.
13:36
Speaker 1: There's not even a number two when you factor in
13:38
Speaker 1: the gap of the sport of football. I mean the
13:40
Speaker 1: number two is technically college football. The National Championship game
13:44
Speaker 1: got thirty plus million people watching. To put that into perspective,
13:47
Speaker 1: Game seven of the NBA Finals last year got like
13:49
Speaker 1: sixteen which that series had been averaging like single digits.
13:54
Speaker 1: And listen, I'm not trying to show in the NBA.
13:56
Speaker 1: For most of my life I watched it. Used to
13:58
Speaker 1: love basketball, but his popularity is diminished greatly, and it's
14:02
Speaker 1: clearly more popular unless the Yankees and Dodgers are playing
14:05
Speaker 1: in the World Series, so the amount of people that
14:07
Speaker 1: are paying attention to the smaller market. This is unlike
14:11
Speaker 1: baseball and basketball. You just fly under the radar a
14:14
Speaker 1: little bit when you're in certain markets like the Yankees,
14:16
Speaker 1: the Dodgers, the Lakers, the Warriors, the Knicks. Some of
14:19
Speaker 1: these teams just there's a different I mean, the thunder
14:22
Speaker 1: are clearly the best team in basketball for the last
14:24
Speaker 1: year and a half, and they're just not thought of
14:27
Speaker 1: the same way as the Lakers. They're not talked about.
14:29
Speaker 1: I don't mean thought of from on the court. I
14:31
Speaker 1: just mean the way it's discussed, the way people are
14:34
Speaker 1: paying attention. And that's not the way. That's not the
14:36
Speaker 1: thing in football that the Packers, the Bills, the Steelers,
14:39
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I mean, you don't need to be playing
14:42
Speaker 1: in La Chicago, you know, Dallas and New York to
14:46
Speaker 1: be discussed in this sport. And I think the Buffalo
14:49
Speaker 1: Bills have a gigantic magnifying glass on them. The quarterback,
14:53
Speaker 1: this new coach, the GM it's gonna be really intense,
14:57
Speaker 1: and I'm all for it. It's entertainment and I would
15:01
Speaker 1: bet on them being pretty good. But you know a
15:04
Speaker 1: lot rides on the health and the play of Josh
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Speaker 1: if he plays like an elite and their defense can
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Speaker 1: improve situationally, they should be competitive to win the Super Bowl.
15:14
Speaker 1: Like there is no excuse for this franchise in the
15:16
Speaker 1: next couple of years not to be in the Super Bowl.
15:19
Speaker 1: Super Bowls can be a little random. It's one game,
15:21
Speaker 1: this is not a seven game series. But you gotta
15:23
Speaker 1: win the AFC. And I would say the same thing
15:26
Speaker 1: for the Ravens with Lamar in the prime of his career.
15:28
Speaker 1: I think you have these guys that are winning MVPs,
15:31
Speaker 1: you have enough talent, and now you have another offseason,
15:34
Speaker 1: like these franchise need to make the Super Bowl when
15:38
Speaker 1: they have these players playing that position for their franchise.
15:42
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15:46
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17:47
Speaker 1: Robert Sala hire Brian Daballs offensive coordinator. Find me a
17:51
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17:56
Speaker 1: They're using bit razors to shave that head I have seen.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they've done the press conference yet. I
18:02
Speaker 1: hope Robert Sala changes from what he did with New
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Speaker 1: a great coach. Leadership and calling the defense. If he's
18:13
Speaker 1: calling the defense and day Ball's calling the offense, and
18:16
Speaker 1: that's all he has to focus on. I think the
18:18
Speaker 1: Titans went from complete joke, laughing stock to like feel
18:21
Speaker 1: a little bit like a real franchise. Now, a lot
18:24
Speaker 1: of holes on that roster, major question marks with a quarterback,
18:28
Speaker 1: But there is no sport where coaching is this important
18:32
Speaker 1: and if those guys are calling the offensive defense. Brian
18:35
Speaker 1: Dave all proved with Josh Allen that he can be
18:37
Speaker 1: an elite coordinator one for Alabama like he's had a
18:40
Speaker 1: great run, and then the New York thing kind of
18:42
Speaker 1: fell apart. But now he just gets to focus on
18:45
Speaker 1: football a little bit like coming from New York, a
18:48
Speaker 1: little under the radar franchise. And if I'm a Titans fan,
18:52
Speaker 1: given how embarrassing everything has been since we fired Mike Vrabel,
18:56
Speaker 1: the situation in the last couple of years, to have
18:59
Speaker 1: back to back really really high picks and just being
19:02
Speaker 1: a laughingstock throughout the league, it does feel like at
19:05
Speaker 1: least we gain some credibility back. Now. Saala is gonna
19:08
Speaker 1: have to prove that he could be a head coach
19:10
Speaker 1: and be good, and it's not gonna be easy immediately.
19:13
Speaker 1: That division's really hard. It was just announced today the Jags.
19:16
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen, his offensive and defensive coordinator, are both coming back.
19:19
Speaker 1: Obviously Liam calls the plays, but the Jags are gonna
19:22
Speaker 1: be really good next year. Right The Houston Texans, if
19:26
Speaker 1: CJ can just play a little normal in some situations
19:30
Speaker 1: and not self combust, they're gonna be really good. I mean,
19:34
Speaker 1: think about it. The Texans were the five seed and
19:36
Speaker 1: they started zero to three. So I've bet two years
19:40
Speaker 1: in a row and the Texans being the number one seed.
19:42
Speaker 1: Maybe I've just been off by three years. Because if
19:45
Speaker 1: they can just solidify their offensive line a little bit
19:47
Speaker 1: more at a weapon here or there on offense, somehow
19:51
Speaker 1: keep daneil Hunter, they could be a major major player
19:53
Speaker 1: again and compete for the Super Bowl. If CJ can
19:56
Speaker 1: just steady the ship. CJ just played like Alex Smith.
19:59
Speaker 1: But that's in your division. And at one point in
20:00
Speaker 1: time this year, the Colts were one of the best
20:03
Speaker 1: offenses we've ever seen. I'm pretty sure they were righting
20:05
Speaker 1: two maybe seven to one. I forget because obviously they
20:09
Speaker 1: imploded once their quarterback position fell apart. But if they
20:12
Speaker 1: just get okay quarterback players like that's they got a
20:14
Speaker 1: lot of good players. They have a solid coach so
20:18
Speaker 1: and they got a coaching staff with lou Am and
20:20
Speaker 1: Runo assuming he doesn't get one of the jobs, and
20:23
Speaker 1: Shane Syke and like, they're a real franchise. So it's
20:25
Speaker 1: not gonna be easy for the Titans. But manifires me
20:28
Speaker 1: up to see the ball brothers together the Jets. I
20:36
Speaker 1: don't think it could have gone any worse for Aaron Glenn.
20:39
Speaker 1: I really don't. And this gets back to Sala. You
20:44
Speaker 1: got hired because you were a fantastic defensive coordinator. What
20:47
Speaker 1: you did with random guys, dudes off the street, you
20:51
Speaker 1: had no business winning some of those games, and you
20:54
Speaker 1: were just the motivation aspect. I remember the different pressures
20:59
Speaker 1: he was thrown at Sam Darnold in that number one
21:01
Speaker 1: seed game two years ago. Was fucking awesome. It was
21:05
Speaker 1: hard not to be like, I love Aaron Glenn and
21:08
Speaker 1: then he becomes a head coach and he' say I'm
21:10
Speaker 1: not calling the defense. I'm a CEO. It's like, Bro,
21:13
Speaker 1: you were just hired because of your defensive I don't
21:17
Speaker 1: want to say wizardry, but like your defensive prowess. And
21:20
Speaker 1: then immediately you take a step back, you give it
21:22
Speaker 1: to another guy who you have to fire in the
21:24
Speaker 1: middle of the season. You hire an offensive coordinator after
21:27
Speaker 1: you paid justin Fields, which was insane. You benched him,
21:31
Speaker 1: You fired the coordinator today officially, it's like it can't
21:34
Speaker 1: be going much worse than jets Land, right, we thought
21:37
Speaker 1: last year, the Rogers era fire and Joe Douglas fire
21:41
Speaker 1: and salad. The embarrassment that was then it would have
21:43
Speaker 1: to improve a little bit, maybe not a giant leap forward,
21:47
Speaker 1: but just slow increments. It got worse. It got worse.
21:51
Speaker 1: They traded away other players. All I hear is like,
21:54
Speaker 1: well they got all these draft picks. I had a
21:56
Speaker 1: buddy that's at the Senior Bowl right now, and I text,
22:00
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's talent like there? He's like, to be honest,
22:02
Speaker 1: in my almost twenty years of working in the NFL
22:05
Speaker 1: and going to this game, this is easily the least
22:08
Speaker 1: talented Senior Bowl I've ever seen. Now. Part of that is,
22:12
Speaker 1: you know, guys not playing. Another part of that is
22:15
Speaker 1: nil a lot of guys. I think in five years
22:18
Speaker 1: or four years ago. There was over one hundred and
22:21
Speaker 1: thirty early entrance into the NFL draft this year, and
22:25
Speaker 1: that includes guys that were quote unquote seniors but still
22:29
Speaker 1: could have gone back to school, right if they're true,
22:32
Speaker 1: you know they had played three years in red shirted.
22:35
Speaker 1: Any guys with eligibility left. One hundred and thirty came
22:37
Speaker 1: out early this year. I think the number was under forty.
22:42
Speaker 1: Nil is playing a major factor on the depth of
22:44
Speaker 1: these guys going back. And I don't blame him because, like, wait,
22:47
Speaker 1: I'll get a million dollars guaranteed to be the starting
22:50
Speaker 1: guard or the starting safety for some power for top
22:56
Speaker 1: twenty five team, or I can put my hat in
22:59
Speaker 1: the ring to go in the draft and be draft
23:01
Speaker 1: in the fifth round where I might not even make
23:02
Speaker 1: the team, go on practice squad, and next year make
23:05
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty grant. But that's not one hundred
23:07
Speaker 1: and eighty guaranteed thousand dollars. I could be cut at
23:09
Speaker 1: any moment. It's like a week by week salary essentially.
23:12
Speaker 1: So you're seeing a lot of these guys make financial
23:14
Speaker 1: decisions stay in college rightfully, so I would too, Like
23:18
Speaker 1: last I checked, college is pretty fun, especially you know,
23:21
Speaker 1: academics clearly don't matter anymore, and they pay me premiums.
23:25
Speaker 1: So that has greatly impacted the draft. So when I
23:27
Speaker 1: see this notion of like these awful teams, these god
23:30
Speaker 1: awful teams, they're like, oh, they got a couple of picks.
23:33
Speaker 1: So there's not exactly like Khalil Mack and Jamar Chase
23:37
Speaker 1: aren't just sitting in this draft pool. Waiting to get picked.
23:40
Speaker 1: That's Micah Parsons ain't staring in the face here. This
23:44
Speaker 1: is at the top viewed as like, no, they great
23:47
Speaker 1: of a draft. That's why I f I'm the Kanzie
23:49
Speaker 1: Chiefs drafting ninth. I don't think there's a big difference
23:51
Speaker 1: between ninth and second. I think we're getting the same
23:54
Speaker 1: player we're Some years, when the elites are in a draft,
23:58
Speaker 1: there's a big difference between drafting second or third, or
24:00
Speaker 1: ninth or tenth. I don't think that's the case this year.
24:03
Speaker 1: And I think you get a similar talent at pick
24:05
Speaker 1: twelve as you can at twenty four. And that's because
24:08
Speaker 1: of the depth of the draft, the high end talent
24:11
Speaker 1: in this draft, so that impacts who not the really
24:15
Speaker 1: good teams like that's not gonna have dramatic effect on
24:18
Speaker 1: the Bills or the Jags or the Texans that are
24:22
Speaker 1: just looking to plug a spot here or there. It's
24:26
Speaker 1: the shitty teams. So the Jets, for example, who got
24:29
Speaker 1: rid of their high couple high end players Quentin Williams
24:32
Speaker 1: sasgarter like guys with Pro Bowl upside who are impact
24:36
Speaker 1: starters at premium positions where you traded away those guys
24:39
Speaker 1: for picks, and it's like, are you gonna get the
24:41
Speaker 1: equivalent talent for those guys? Last I checked, both of
24:45
Speaker 1: those were really high picks and viewed as premium players. Well,
24:50
Speaker 1: Quinn Williams and Sauce Garter coming out of college would
24:53
Speaker 1: be arguably, beside Mendoza, who's a lock to go number one,
24:58
Speaker 1: be in the mix to be the first player taken
25:00
Speaker 1: in this upcoming draft probably would be probably go two
25:04
Speaker 1: and three. Now, I understand they're older and financially they're
25:07
Speaker 1: different impacts, but my point is simple, is these bad teams,
25:12
Speaker 1: this draft ain't saving you, Like you're not gonna look
25:15
Speaker 1: up and go God. They got Earl Thomas, Richard Sherman,
25:19
Speaker 1: and Cam Chancellor out of that one. Obviously, there's some
25:21
Speaker 1: randomness to draft. You never truly know, and you're gonna
25:24
Speaker 1: find Pro Bowl guys in random rounds. It happens every
25:28
Speaker 1: single year for random teams. But I don't think this
25:31
Speaker 1: draft is viewed as the savior, like some of these
25:33
Speaker 1: teams are gonna hype it up to their fans. I
25:36
Speaker 1: just got this text while I was recording from producer
25:41
Speaker 1: Jackson on the three and Out group text, and my
25:46
Speaker 1: first reaction is the NFL should be ashamed and these
25:49
Speaker 1: people that voted should have their vote revoked. Bill Belichick,
25:54
Speaker 1: the eight time Super Bowl winning head coach, obviously six
25:57
Speaker 1: as a head coach, two as a coordinator, is not
25:59
Speaker 1: a first Hall of Famer, per Wickershan and Don Van Natta,
26:03
Speaker 1: Belichick fell short of the forty out of fifty votes
26:06
Speaker 1: needed for the introduction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Now,
26:10
Speaker 1: I understand personal biases. When someone is a dick or
26:15
Speaker 1: an asshole to other individuals in any field, in any
26:20
Speaker 1: walk of life, those people are not gonna like the
26:23
Speaker 1: other person, especially when I don't work with you. You don't
26:25
Speaker 1: make me any money. If you're in sports, it's not
26:28
Speaker 1: like I'm on your team. You're winning, doesn't It is
26:31
Speaker 1: bad for me. I get it. But if I'm voting
26:35
Speaker 1: for an award or something like introduction the Hall of Fame,
26:39
Speaker 1: my bias and agenda and my thoughts toward you as
26:42
Speaker 1: a human being, which clearly people hate Bill Belichick. They
26:46
Speaker 1: have forever. Besides, like you know, an Andy Reid, like
26:50
Speaker 1: individual coaches that are somewhat similar to his age that
26:53
Speaker 1: have known him for a long time. Mike Lombardi people
26:56
Speaker 1: around the NFL, not players like Brady or whatever, but
27:01
Speaker 1: some writers, media people, some former coaches his right his
27:08
Speaker 1: I don't even want to say colleagues, but his competition.
27:11
Speaker 1: A lot of people did not like the League office
27:13
Speaker 1: can't stand them. But you can't, with a straight face
27:16
Speaker 1: tell me that Bill Belichick is not a first ballot
27:19
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. You can't tell me with a straight
27:21
Speaker 1: face that Bill Belichick is not one of the greatest coaches,
27:25
Speaker 1: if not the greatest coach we've ever seen. He is
27:28
Speaker 1: right up there with the Lombardes, the Walshes, what Andy
27:32
Speaker 1: Reid has done with Kansas City. He is an all
27:35
Speaker 1: time great and a no doubt about it, first ballot
27:38
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. If Bill Belichick is not a first
27:41
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer, I don't know who is. Because
27:45
Speaker 1: when it comes to players, I've always had a problem
27:48
Speaker 1: with the Hall of Fame. Like to me, when I
27:50
Speaker 1: think of it, I think of Montana Brady, Lawrence Taylor,
27:53
Speaker 1: Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Dion Sanders, like the best of
27:57
Speaker 1: the best. Jerry Rice, I do has been diluted a
28:01
Speaker 1: little bit, But a lot of those guys like obviously
28:03
Speaker 1: don't get in him the first time. It takes them
28:05
Speaker 1: a little while. It kind of is what it is.
28:07
Speaker 1: But if you tell me, we walk into Hall of
28:09
Speaker 1: Fame like there's a big difference where the elite of
28:12
Speaker 1: the elite are sitting and some of the other guys
28:15
Speaker 1: in there right there. When it comes to the coaches,
28:19
Speaker 1: if we did a mount rushmore of coaches in the
28:22
Speaker 1: sport of football, no one would argue you could include college.
28:27
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is on it. So these people that didn't
28:30
Speaker 1: vote for him should be fucking ashamed of themselves because
28:34
Speaker 1: he was a dick to you, because he didn't give
28:36
Speaker 1: you a good quote. I can't even imagine justifying it
28:40
Speaker 1: with not checking his name, because to me, voting for
28:43
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick when he's Hall of Fame eligible is as
28:46
Speaker 1: easy as voting for Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, or
28:51
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or pick Aaron Donald, pick whoever you want.
28:55
Speaker 1: Who just one of the best players I've ever seen,
28:57
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. That to me is Bill Bellich
29:00
Speaker 1: as a coach. This isn't some morning television show. We're
29:05
Speaker 1: debating Belichick k Brady. Who's this is simply is he
29:10
Speaker 1: the best coach of his generation. Answer yes, is he
29:13
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer? Answer yes? Is he a first
29:17
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer? If you just went, if we
29:19
Speaker 1: were sitting at a bar ordering some Bruskies, getting some snacks,
29:24
Speaker 1: bullshit talking ball.
29:26
Speaker 2: Is there anyone at the bar, even the people that
29:29
Speaker 2: hated him, even the people that couldn't stand Bill Belichick's
29:33
Speaker 2: curmudgeon ass, that would debate that he's a first ballot
29:37
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer.
29:38
Speaker 1: I think it's I'd be ashamed if I was those guys.
29:43
Speaker 1: We need to dox them. I need to know who
29:45
Speaker 1: they are so I can immediately unfollow them. And those
29:48
Speaker 1: people have to be a little nervous about getting docked,
29:51
Speaker 1: about getting exposed, because even if you can't stand Bill,
29:56
Speaker 1: we would all be in agreement that he should go
29:59
Speaker 1: immediate lean to the Hall of Fame when he's eligible.
30:02
Speaker 1: And I get like, if I was all these teams,
30:04
Speaker 1: I couldn't touch him anymore, not at this point, not
30:07
Speaker 1: with his age, not with his attitude, not with Jordaan.
30:11
Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not even acting like these teams
30:13
Speaker 1: at this point are making dumb decisions by not even contacting.
30:16
Speaker 1: And he knew that, like Bill's no dummy, So why
30:19
Speaker 1: he went to North Carolina. He knew he was never
30:20
Speaker 1: getting hired in the NFL ever again, but to not
30:23
Speaker 1: get the votes to go to the Hall of Fame?
30:27
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31:50
Speaker 1: Steeler fan, I know they have many questions to answer
31:53
Speaker 1: with the roster, including defense and the quarterback. Would it
31:56
Speaker 1: be worth taking a mid round pick on Clubnik or
32:00
Speaker 1: Smyer to see if they can develop? Thanks, well, you
32:04
Speaker 1: just did that last year with I get Riley Leonards
32:08
Speaker 1: on the Colts, Will Howard's on the Steelers. You kind
32:10
Speaker 1: of did that with you know what? Six round. To me,
32:13
Speaker 1: club Nick, I watched a decent amount of Clemson over
32:16
Speaker 1: the years because he was such a hyped player. I
32:19
Speaker 1: do not see it. Seems like a good kid, but
32:22
Speaker 1: I don't think he's very good at football. Nussmeier. To me,
32:27
Speaker 1: neus Meyer is much more like a dome like Cousins
32:33
Speaker 1: was for the Vikings or maybe Drew Brees with the Saints.
32:37
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a big arm, so to me, if
32:40
Speaker 1: you don't have a big arm, like, I'm not messing
32:42
Speaker 1: with you in that division, in that conference. I need
32:45
Speaker 1: a big arm quarterback in the AFC. Good franchises all
32:48
Speaker 1: play outside and until everyone's in a dome like the weather.
32:53
Speaker 1: That impacts to me, like, who's the best quarterback at
32:57
Speaker 1: least of my lifetime for you guys, Roethlisberger, huge arm.
33:00
Speaker 1: Think of just Super Bowl champs, Peyton Manning playing a dome.
33:03
Speaker 1: Right you go, Brady big arm, Eli, big arm, McNabb,
33:08
Speaker 1: big arm, Mahomes, big arm, Josh Allen, big arm. Lamar's arm,
33:13
Speaker 1: I would say, is a howitzer, but it's not bad,
33:15
Speaker 1: and the running element is elite, and he's very comfortable
33:18
Speaker 1: playing in the cold. So I need big arm quarterbacks
33:21
Speaker 1: in the elements. I just do Burrow somewhat of an outlier,
33:26
Speaker 1: but he's just an all time elite player who didn't
33:29
Speaker 1: play that well this year. Congrats on the baby. Truly
33:32
Speaker 1: a life changing event. I agree. Kids unlock a whole
33:36
Speaker 1: new range of human emotion that he didn't understand till
33:39
Speaker 1: you have them. I agree. When you see the guy
33:41
Speaker 1: get get a little chop chopped. This morning at the
33:44
Speaker 1: pediatrician's office. You just that those tiers, the screaming tears,
33:52
Speaker 1: really really hit your soul, especially when they're really young.
33:54
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks old, really impacts my wife Quick
33:58
Speaker 1: Brown's sake. I think that has are the poor man's
34:00
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. Jimmy keeps underperforming team relevant by manufacturing drama
34:06
Speaker 1: instead of winning. Johnny manzel Baker was a mouthy savior.
34:09
Speaker 1: Watson kept the Browns in the headlines. Now the Shaduur
34:12
Speaker 1: noise and trying to flex the brain power with his
34:14
Speaker 1: coaching search. Constant quarterback turn coaching turnover leaks feel intentional.
34:19
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones wrote the playbook Love Your Thoughts. I don't
34:24
Speaker 1: think he's trying. I really don't, because part of Jerry
34:27
Speaker 1: is Jerry is the show. Jerry does press conferences time
34:31
Speaker 1: every game day, right in the locker room after the game.
34:35
Speaker 1: Jerry does a weekly radio hit. Jerry talks twice a
34:39
Speaker 1: week during the season and sometimes more. I don't feel
34:42
Speaker 1: I hear from Jimmy Haslm that much. I think Jimmy
34:45
Speaker 1: Haslam is unintentionally doing this. And I also think Jimmy Haslam,
34:50
Speaker 1: who clearly meddles gives his coach and GM a little
34:55
Speaker 1: more room to kind of screw themselves and then he
34:59
Speaker 1: turns on But I I don't see it the same.
35:03
Speaker 1: I think Jerry somewhat of an outlier. He never shuts up.
35:06
Speaker 1: I mean he never does. I feel like I don't
35:09
Speaker 1: hear Jimmy Haslam talk that often. Now. I'm not following
35:12
Speaker 1: the Browns day to day, but I actually follow a
35:16
Speaker 1: decent amount of Mary Kay a couple other people around
35:20
Speaker 1: the Cleveland scene. It doesn't feel like he's firing out
35:23
Speaker 1: quotes all the time, even the leak, And I don't
35:27
Speaker 1: think it was a leak. I think Pelasarro when he
35:30
Speaker 1: said that they are demanding homework and essays, was just
35:35
Speaker 1: reiterating what coaches were telling him. Like, I don't think
35:40
Speaker 1: the Browns wanted that out. I actually very confident saying
35:44
Speaker 1: the Browns would not want that out. The Browns would
35:47
Speaker 1: not want that out. Grats. I'm becoming a dad, just
35:52
Speaker 1: became a grandfather in November. Congratulations. Why does the media
35:57
Speaker 1: hold Stefanski and Kevin O'Connell as these elite coaches. I
36:01
Speaker 1: do not see it. Stefanski's latest third round pick and
36:04
Speaker 1: koc not keeping Donald only thing I see is they
36:07
Speaker 1: both have top ten defenses last season. I do think
36:12
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, I mean, he got thirty five touchdowns out
36:14
Speaker 1: of Darnald two years ago. Cousins had a really good year.
36:17
Speaker 1: I've seen him with good quarterbacks have a really good season.
36:20
Speaker 1: I do think the Browns feel it's It's why Jim Schwartz,
36:24
Speaker 1: as of recording this, might get hired as their next coach.
36:27
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz is really good defensive coordinator. Was defensive coordinator
36:30
Speaker 1: for the Eagles when they won the Super Bowl. Their
36:32
Speaker 1: defense was really really good. Maybe not in that Super
36:35
Speaker 1: Bowl because I think Brady threw for like seven hundred
36:37
Speaker 1: and seventy five yards, but overall, like Jim Schwartz is
36:40
Speaker 1: a high end defensive mind. It's why the Browns are
36:43
Speaker 1: trying to like kind of get some young guy and
36:45
Speaker 1: keep Schwartz. But clearly Schwartz is telling them I might leave,
36:48
Speaker 1: so they want to keep them. It's kind of complicated.
36:53
Speaker 1: I do think that Stefanski has been carried by defense
36:59
Speaker 1: more than Kevin O'Connell. I do philosophically agree with Stefanski
37:05
Speaker 1: more than I do Kevin O'Connell. Kevin O'Connell is Sean
37:09
Speaker 1: mcvay's doppelganger. Not physically much taller, little more receding hairline.
37:17
Speaker 1: Obviously Sean's got good hair. But they love throwing the ball.
37:20
Speaker 1: That they are the young versions of Andy. Kevin Stefanski
37:25
Speaker 1: is much closer to a defensive minded head coach or
37:29
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannan, like he wants to run the ball way more,
37:32
Speaker 1: which I respect and I do think translates in big games.
37:36
Speaker 1: So I think both are just smart guys who no
37:41
Speaker 1: offense are viewed as like quarterback guys. But I'm with you,
37:46
Speaker 1: like defensively, especially last year. I don't put the Donald
37:52
Speaker 1: cousins JJ McCarthy that all on Kevin O'Connell. I just
37:57
Speaker 1: don't remember a couple of years ago Kevin O'Connell won
38:00
Speaker 1: to keep Kirk Cousins. I don't know there have been
38:05
Speaker 1: stories written about all the details with the Donald thing.
38:08
Speaker 1: I do think it's hard when you draft JJ McCarthy.
38:12
Speaker 1: Most teams in the history of the NFL would have
38:14
Speaker 1: done that. You just better be right. And here's what
38:16
Speaker 1: I would say. They are not drafting JJ McCarthy without
38:19
Speaker 1: him putting a stamp of approval on it. And if
38:21
Speaker 1: you're putting your stamp of approval on a guy who
38:23
Speaker 1: comes from a running offense with a great college defense,
38:28
Speaker 1: pretty risky who then you need to change his mechanics.
38:32
Speaker 1: Like as we sit here a year away, if Donald
38:35
Speaker 1: were to win the Super Bowl, it's an all time
38:38
Speaker 1: f up. There's no way around it. Like the Cousins
38:41
Speaker 1: thing towards Achilles. You move, that's not that crazy. But
38:43
Speaker 1: then you get Donald for one year, ten million dollars,
38:46
Speaker 1: and you overreact to those last two games. I think
38:49
Speaker 1: if he had played well in those last two games,
38:51
Speaker 1: even if they lose, Donald might still be on the team.
38:54
Speaker 1: But I think once he kind of shited the bed
38:56
Speaker 1: and the offense fell apart, and I thought Kevin O'Connell
38:59
Speaker 1: did a terrible job in those games. It's like, hey, bro,
39:02
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks rattled by this pressure. Run the ball or
39:05
Speaker 1: run some like quick screens. But he's obsessed with like
39:08
Speaker 1: long drop back deep passes. It's what he did with
39:10
Speaker 1: JJ McCarty right away. It's like, Kevin JJ McCarty is
39:14
Speaker 1: not gonna play like he's Josh Allen, right, Stop having
39:17
Speaker 1: him slinging around like he's justin Herbert have him hand
39:20
Speaker 1: the ball off, but he doesn't want to call runs
39:28
Speaker 1: like most coaches. They got loss. I think that's the case.
39:31
Speaker 1: You could do worse. I would take Kevin O'Connell over
39:35
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, even though I don't always agree with the
39:41
Speaker 1: way he calls offense. I just think he's better with players.
39:45
Speaker 1: I still go back to the Stefanski thing. The players
39:48
Speaker 1: like him. I'm not saying they don't. I just haven't
39:51
Speaker 1: seen many guys say they do. That's all I'm saying.
39:55
Speaker 1: It's pretty clear people like Kevin O'Connell a lot, and
39:58
Speaker 1: that matters to me. Like this isn't nineteen and I'm
40:02
Speaker 1: an old school guy. I was raising a very old
40:04
Speaker 1: school home. There are certain things that I will teach
40:06
Speaker 1: my son that are not going to go out of
40:08
Speaker 1: style in my house, that I promise will translate well
40:11
Speaker 1: until society crumbles. But things do change a little bit
40:16
Speaker 1: over time. And the coach just being the dictator, it's
40:20
Speaker 1: not quite that way. You have to be hand in
40:22
Speaker 1: hand with the players. Andy Reid is excellent with that.
40:25
Speaker 1: McVeigh Kyle, they're really good at that. Sean Payton can
40:28
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a dictator. You can't, but
40:32
Speaker 1: he's old enough where he can still kind of pull
40:34
Speaker 1: it off. Mike Rabel's pretty player friendly. He's on your ass,
40:37
Speaker 1: but he's player friendly. I need the players to really
40:41
Speaker 1: like you. I just do. I mean, And I think
40:46
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell has that. I wish you'd run the ball more.
40:49
Speaker 1: If he'd run the ball more, and I think he'd
40:51
Speaker 1: be an elite coach, and maybe he will over time.
40:55
Speaker 1: The Rams defense let Stafford down. He was cooking. Realistically,
40:59
Speaker 1: they should have won that game. If McVeigh had taken
41:01
Speaker 1: the field goal on the fourth and goal from the
41:03
Speaker 1: four yard line, they got the ball back and needed
41:06
Speaker 1: a touchdown. If they kicked, they would have just needed
41:08
Speaker 1: a field goal down thirty three to thirty one. Do
41:10
Speaker 1: you think he made the right call to go for it.
41:13
Speaker 1: I do think at the time I would have gone
41:14
Speaker 1: for to I think the mistake was, if I remember correctly,
41:18
Speaker 1: they did not throw to Puka or DeVante on either pass.
41:21
Speaker 1: I think they wanted to go to DeVante on the
41:23
Speaker 1: third and four and he was like kind of bracketed
41:27
Speaker 1: covered and Stafford kind of had to go off him.
41:30
Speaker 1: I think, under no circumstances can you run two plays
41:34
Speaker 1: essentially that are touchdown or bus plays, and not throw
41:37
Speaker 1: it to a Hall of Fame wide receiver in DeVante
41:39
Speaker 1: who is an elite red zone target and arguably the
41:42
Speaker 1: best wide receiver in the league in twenty twenty five.
41:45
Speaker 1: And Poka Nkua, who's just cooking that game again, who
41:49
Speaker 1: has like six hundred yards and two games against these guys,
41:52
Speaker 1: and they threw it to two other guys. So I
41:55
Speaker 1: think that if McVeigh could do it over, he would
41:58
Speaker 1: have called basically two plays that he would have had
42:02
Speaker 1: to throw to one of the two of them. I'd
42:05
Speaker 1: rather throw an interception going at one of those guys
42:09
Speaker 1: than throwing incomplete past at another guy, So I think
42:14
Speaker 1: and listen. Sean Payton Seth Wickersham talked to him after
42:20
Speaker 1: the game, and Sean Payton said, on that fourth down
42:23
Speaker 1: where he went for it on fourth and one to
42:24
Speaker 1: stead of kicking the field goal, He's like, we called
42:27
Speaker 1: the play and we got the look we wanted. The
42:31
Speaker 1: problem was is they changed the defense from the look,
42:36
Speaker 1: so when the ball was snapped, the look they got
42:39
Speaker 1: was not the defense that comes with that look. And
42:42
Speaker 1: I said, Sean, you're in the AFC championship game. Well,
42:47
Speaker 1: who are you gonna play in the in the championship games,
42:49
Speaker 1: the best teams and the best coaches. You're going up
42:52
Speaker 1: against Mike Vrabel and his young defensive coordinator. Well, what
42:57
Speaker 1: did Mike Vrabel in his heyday as a player in
42:59
Speaker 1: the hang their hat on? Tricking you, showing you things
43:03
Speaker 1: and doing other things. That's the name of the game.
43:06
Speaker 1: So just because you quote unquote get the look you want,
43:09
Speaker 1: you're not guaranteed to get that defense post snap. You're
43:12
Speaker 1: playing Mike McDonald, you're playing Mike Vrabel. They're gonna throw curveballs,
43:17
Speaker 1: especially in situations like fourth and goal or big downs
43:22
Speaker 1: like third and one, midfield, They're gonna throw things that
43:26
Speaker 1: you don't expect. That's what they do during the week.
43:30
Speaker 1: They go, Hey, we got this tendency. They're gonna think
43:32
Speaker 1: they're gonna get that. We're gonna show them this look,
43:34
Speaker 1: but we're gonna do the opposite of what they think
43:36
Speaker 1: is coming. And I thought, Sean, like, being an innovative
43:41
Speaker 1: offensive coach, you should be prepared for that. It's why
43:44
Speaker 1: I go back to I think you gotta kick the
43:46
Speaker 1: field goal, and I think it's the biggest mistake of
43:50
Speaker 1: the game, biggest mistake of the weekend, bigger mistake than
43:52
Speaker 1: what you brought up with McVeigh going for it. Of course,
43:57
Speaker 1: they're throwing shit at you. Who people how to play
44:00
Speaker 1: defense when he was a player, Bill Belichick, the guy
44:05
Speaker 1: that can't make the Hall of Fame, but whose game
44:08
Speaker 1: plan from playing Joe Montana and Jim Kelly in Super
44:12
Speaker 1: Bowls and NFC Championship games are in the Hall of Fame.
44:17
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's He's been a defensive genius for forty years,
44:22
Speaker 1: still can't make Super Bowl. We all got to agree,
44:24
Speaker 1: that's crazy. You can hate the guy and this isn't
44:28
Speaker 1: you know, the Clemens and Barry Bonds and the steroids.
44:31
Speaker 1: I get it. I disagree, but like, if you want
44:33
Speaker 1: to stand on that argument like that, I can't prove
44:35
Speaker 1: who was on him, who wasn't on him. I mean,
44:37
Speaker 1: we know those guys were on him, but like who
44:39
Speaker 1: else they were playing against. But if that's the hill
44:41
Speaker 1: you're gonna die on, Like what am I gonna say?
44:45
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick couldn't make the Hall of Fame? What are
44:49
Speaker 1: we doing? That's shameful, it really is. I'm embarrassed to
44:55
Speaker 1: be associated with the greatest sport in the world, football,
45:01
Speaker 1: and that takes place. I don't feel much sympathy for
45:07
Speaker 1: uh William Belichick. I do on that one, like that
45:09
Speaker 1: that's a joke. It feels like there's talking about collusion,
45:13
Speaker 1: like it's the league office. People people hate the guy.
45:15
Speaker 1: People hate the guy does show you, you know, it's like,
45:19
Speaker 1: try to be nice to people. I've really worked on
45:22
Speaker 1: that the last couple of weeks. I think I'm pretty
45:24
Speaker 1: nice out there in the real world, but when you're
45:26
Speaker 1: sleeping a couple hours here, a couple hours there, my
45:29
Speaker 1: tendency is to just be grouchy and angry. I'm just
45:33
Speaker 1: every time I go somewhere, I try to force a
45:35
Speaker 1: smile and because you realize, like that's that person's interaction
45:38
Speaker 1: with you that day. It's the person at the front
45:41
Speaker 1: desk of the gym, it's the person at Starbucks, person
45:43
Speaker 1: you run into on a walk, and Bill never gave
45:47
Speaker 1: a shit about that. It's coming back to buy him,
45:51
Speaker 1: even if it's unfair. Huge fan of the pot. I
45:54
Speaker 1: hope you're doing really well with your new family. I'm
45:58
Speaker 1: a lifelong Steeler fan, and like many I was surprised
46:01
Speaker 1: by the recent hire of McCarthy. Do you see any
46:03
Speaker 1: world given an offensive mind, where he would actually take
46:06
Speaker 1: the Steelers to a playoff victory. We have an aging
46:09
Speaker 1: d and of course no quarterback, but do you see
46:12
Speaker 1: him bringing a bit more life? Well, you know, the
46:16
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers things not going away. So Aaron Rodgers wouldn't
46:22
Speaker 1: shock me at all if he doesn't. You know, if
46:24
Speaker 1: he just plays another year and I listen, I don't
46:27
Speaker 1: think this quarterback drafts very good. If Aaron Rodgers doesn't
46:31
Speaker 1: come back, could they make a play for a Davis Mills,
46:35
Speaker 1: a mac Jones and just give them some stability? Maybe?
46:39
Speaker 1: I think if McCarthy was smart, you kind of bought
46:41
Speaker 1: him out. And even if it pissed off his fan base,
46:45
Speaker 1: McCarthy's proven if you get him, he doesn't need Aaron Rodgers.
46:49
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is not gonna go to the Hall of Fame.
46:52
Speaker 1: He's gonna make five hundred million dollars and have a
46:54
Speaker 1: sweet stats, but he's not Hall of Fame. But he's
46:56
Speaker 1: a good player, and Mike McCarthy made him look like
46:58
Speaker 1: an awesome player. So if you can just get him
47:01
Speaker 1: some version of that's you guys are gonna be good.
47:05
Speaker 1: On offense. He's proven that, Like it's not even we
47:08
Speaker 1: couldn't even have an argument about that. Because Mike McCarthy
47:11
Speaker 1: good at coaching offense. Every single human has to answer, yes,
47:15
Speaker 1: is he good at coaching the quarterbacks? Yes, that's really
47:18
Speaker 1: important to a franchise that had become kind of offense
47:22
Speaker 1: and quarterback lifeless. They tried with Rogers, but at forty
47:26
Speaker 1: one forty two, it's just if I was Aaron, I'd
47:29
Speaker 1: probably walk away. But you never know what advice do
47:36
Speaker 1: you have for reaching out trying to acquire sponsors. Of course,
47:39
Speaker 1: your viewership is probably the most important for everyone coming
47:41
Speaker 1: to listen. Sponsors, viewers, listeners, platform or anything else I'm missing.
47:47
Speaker 1: It depends like if you run more of like a
47:50
Speaker 1: local operation, like let's say you live in Baton Rouge
47:53
Speaker 1: you run an LSU podcast, or you live in Buffalo
47:56
Speaker 1: and you run a bills podcast. I think you should
48:00
Speaker 1: try to utilize, especially if you live in the community,
48:03
Speaker 1: some of the small businesses in that area and develop
48:07
Speaker 1: relationships with restaurant, with local you know, car dealer. I
48:15
Speaker 1: remember when I first got into the podcast world, well
48:17
Speaker 1: but way before Netflix and Coward, I was just going
48:21
Speaker 1: to like car dealers and dming and emailing everyone any sponsor.
48:26
Speaker 1: I would hear on someone else's podcast, and a lot
48:29
Speaker 1: has changed. This was probably twenty sixteen. I would find
48:33
Speaker 1: a way to DM LinkedIn DM, I would kind of
48:36
Speaker 1: dirty hustle. Now I was doing a little bit more
48:39
Speaker 1: like not necessarily local, but some of my local stuff
48:42
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area car dealerships, restaurants, companies that were
48:46
Speaker 1: really popular in that area, and just kind of guerrilla warfare.
48:50
Speaker 1: You kind of got to turn into you got to
48:52
Speaker 1: be your own sales guy, and you're gonna get some no's.
48:54
Speaker 1: A lot of people aren't gonna respond. And this could
48:57
Speaker 1: be true in any industry. Once you kind of do
49:00
Speaker 1: it for, you kind of become numb to it and
49:01
Speaker 1: you just make an hour or two a day. I
49:04
Speaker 1: don't know if it's your side gig, dedicate some time
49:08
Speaker 1: to just spand guerrilla warfaring people, whether that's emails, whether
49:13
Speaker 1: that's DMS, whether that's If you have the capability, this
49:17
Speaker 1: would always be the number one thing. Go to them.
49:20
Speaker 1: If you have previous relationships with some of these people,
49:22
Speaker 1: try to utilize them. They can't say no. If you
49:26
Speaker 1: don't ask was they probably will say it first. Okay,
49:31
Speaker 1: all takes one yes, and once you get one yes,
49:33
Speaker 1: maybe the ball starts rolling. Love the podcast. So I
49:50
Speaker 1: had a question. I just finished playing juco football out
49:53
Speaker 1: in Southern California JUCO Champs Golden West. Now that I'm
49:57
Speaker 1: done playing here, I really want to get into coaching
50:00
Speaker 1: at the college level. If I remember correctly, I know
50:02
Speaker 1: you were a grat assistant at Presno. I wanted to
50:05
Speaker 1: ask and see if you had any advice on what
50:07
Speaker 1: the best route would be for someone like me who
50:10
Speaker 1: has a desire to coach at the college level. If
50:13
Speaker 1: you have any tips or stories that helped you on
50:15
Speaker 1: your journey and would be awesome to hear. Well, one
50:20
Speaker 1: thing for the coaching fraternity, especially in college, there are
50:23
Speaker 1: a lot of camps right seven on seven camps, summer camps.
50:27
Speaker 1: I would work those. So you live in California, Southern California, UCLA, USC,
50:33
Speaker 1: Fresno State, San Diego State, any camp they have as
50:37
Speaker 1: a former like you played in junior college, reach out
50:41
Speaker 1: to their I don't know, offense defensive coordinator, quality control guy.
50:44
Speaker 1: You can find their information on the school website and
50:48
Speaker 1: see if you can work the camp. Hit their GMS
50:50
Speaker 1: up DM the GMS and see if you can help
50:53
Speaker 1: out at the camp or just like if you could
50:57
Speaker 1: come study for the day. Right spring is spring practice
51:01
Speaker 1: a couple months away. So if you live in southern California,
51:05
Speaker 1: you have UCLA, USC and Sande. You have three division
51:11
Speaker 1: obviously two Big ten schools at a mountain West Pac
51:14
Speaker 1: twelve school in San Diego State, you should try to
51:17
Speaker 1: go to their practices. Hey, can I just come to
51:20
Speaker 1: your practice and watch? I'm a foreign player and want
51:22
Speaker 1: to get into coaching because the most powerful thing you
51:25
Speaker 1: have as a coach is developing a couple relationships. And
51:30
Speaker 1: once you develop a couple, those things are like a
51:33
Speaker 1: spider web. And if you if you meet the right guy,
51:36
Speaker 1: if you meet the wide receiver coach at UCLA, in
51:39
Speaker 1: two years, he could be the offensive coordinator Ohio State
51:43
Speaker 1: or the wide receiver coach for the Rams. You you
51:46
Speaker 1: never know, and that all of a sudden you're hanging
51:48
Speaker 1: out with the San Diego State coach and five years
51:51
Speaker 1: he's the head coach in Texas. I mean, that's that's
51:53
Speaker 1: how fast shit happens. So you gotta find a way
51:57
Speaker 1: to meet guys that are coaching at those universities, which
52:00
Speaker 1: is easy in the sense that you just need to
52:03
Speaker 1: get access to Hey, can I can I follow you
52:06
Speaker 1: for a day at spring practice and come to your meetings?
52:09
Speaker 1: I aspire to be a coach. Let's just I don't
52:11
Speaker 1: know what position you played, but let's just say you
52:13
Speaker 1: play dB. Hey could I just could I just shadow
52:17
Speaker 1: you for the day the dB coach. I'll just take
52:19
Speaker 1: notes and watch in the back. Who knows, Maybe you
52:23
Speaker 1: just develop you have lunch with them, breakfast with them.
52:25
Speaker 1: Now you'd be like, well, how do I meet that?
52:26
Speaker 1: You just find a way to just unlimited emails, find
52:31
Speaker 1: their phone number, maybe show up at the facility. It's
52:34
Speaker 1: gonna it might take a little hustle. But you don't
52:37
Speaker 1: live in in the middle of nowhere like you are
52:40
Speaker 1: in a place where there are and if there are
52:42
Speaker 1: northern California, you got cal Stanford, Fresno State, UC Davis,
52:47
Speaker 1: Sacks State. When you get you got some successful college
52:51
Speaker 1: programs in your area. You might as have to drive
52:53
Speaker 1: around and figure it out. Now I don't know your
52:55
Speaker 1: your situation. If you want to be a grad assistant,
52:58
Speaker 1: you have to get an undergrad degree. So if you're
53:01
Speaker 1: done playing j C ball. You do have to continue
53:05
Speaker 1: your education and finish with a graduate degree and to
53:08
Speaker 1: play or I mean an undergrad degree, and I'm pretty
53:11
Speaker 1: sure I don't know for a long time the rules.
53:15
Speaker 1: If you want to coach in Division one football, you
53:19
Speaker 1: have to have an undergrad degree. That's that's a big deal.
53:22
Speaker 1: Got to hear your response to Dion or Shador Sanders
53:25
Speaker 1: making the Pro Bowl. I think the NFL officially killed
53:28
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. I saw a lot of people with
53:30
Speaker 1: a lot of takes on this. I don't blame them
53:33
Speaker 1: for picking Shador cause this game is only about television now.
53:39
Speaker 1: And in fairness to this game this year, like it's
53:41
Speaker 1: been for the last several years, this game has become
53:43
Speaker 1: a joke. I fall Sean Merriman on Instagram and he
53:47
Speaker 1: posted this picture of like I remember when the Pro
53:50
Speaker 1: Bowl used to matter, and it was like Ed Reed
53:53
Speaker 1: ray Lewis, like all these great in paths. The Pro
53:57
Speaker 1: Bowl twenty to thirty years ago was a real. Several
54:02
Speaker 1: years ago when Josh Allen would opt out of the
54:04
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl to play at the at and T Pebble Beach,
54:08
Speaker 1: I went this Mac Jones, I think as a rookie
54:11
Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl. I said, I'm out. This game
54:15
Speaker 1: hasn't mattered well before Shador Sanders. So it's the chador
54:19
Speaker 1: was just added to try to get gain some more eyeballs.
54:21
Speaker 1: This game, it's it's not It's a flag football game
54:24
Speaker 1: at the Moscone Center in San Francisco. It shouldn't have
54:27
Speaker 1: anything to do with football. It should just be we're
54:29
Speaker 1: picking whoever we want to pick, who's the most famous,
54:32
Speaker 1: most Instagram followers, and try to get people to watch.
54:37
Speaker 1: We could play trivia, we could do a contest like
54:40
Speaker 1: who could throw the ball the farthest. Honestly, remember some
54:43
Speaker 1: of those. It happened when I was really young. It'd
54:47
Speaker 1: be the Pro Bowl games and it'd be like far
54:49
Speaker 1: versus Marino versus Jim Kelly, and they would just try
54:53
Speaker 1: to like throw the the hardest, or throw this obstacle
54:56
Speaker 1: course and just do stuff like that. Like the there
55:00
Speaker 1: is no Pro Bowl anymore. The game doesn't count. Several
55:03
Speaker 1: years ago, when when it was clear like no one
55:05
Speaker 1: would tackles, like this thing's over, this thing's a rap,
55:09
Speaker 1: so people with the should or this thing had become
55:12
Speaker 1: a joke way before Shad or Sanders. Way, no one
55:16
Speaker 1: will play in the game. And here's the thing. Guys
55:19
Speaker 1: are too rich. When you get rich enough, things that
55:23
Speaker 1: used to matter no longer matter. It was a really
55:27
Speaker 1: big deal. And I bet a lot of those guys,
55:29
Speaker 1: like I bet, if we went back to look at
55:31
Speaker 1: ray Lewis, probably had like half a million dollar or
55:34
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty k kicker in his contract to
55:36
Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl. So it was a big deal.
55:38
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't give a shit. I
55:41
Speaker 1: make forty million dollars a year. I make twenty eight
55:44
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, Brandon and I you quit, signed
55:47
Speaker 1: a seventy five million dollar contract, just quit playing football.
55:50
Speaker 1: Who knows if he ever plays again. I'm just out.
55:54
Speaker 1: The money now is so big it's changed the priorities
55:57
Speaker 1: of guys. And I don't blame anyone for not wanting
56:00
Speaker 1: to tackle in a Pro Bowl game where if I
56:03
Speaker 1: get injured, it could derail my career. So I understand that, like,
56:10
Speaker 1: there's too much money in the line for these guys,
56:12
Speaker 1: and the mentalities changed. The world's changed, but the Pro
56:17
Speaker 1: Bowl ceased to exist a long time ago. Chador does
56:22
Speaker 1: not represent the symbolic nature of the embarrassment that this
56:28
Speaker 1: thing is now. That happened years ago. So if you're like,
56:32
Speaker 1: hey we need hey shador available, that'll move the needle,
56:35
Speaker 1: can don coach. They're trying to do anything to get
56:38
Speaker 1: some people to watch. What are they even doing, like
56:40
Speaker 1: a throwing contest with flags? They're not playing football, They're
56:45
Speaker 1: playing TV ratings with no pads and flags or honestly,
56:49
Speaker 1: I don't even know what is the Pro Bowl? Flag
56:52
Speaker 1: is that you couldn't I have no clue what the
56:55
Speaker 1: event is now, but I know it's not a football
56:57
Speaker 1: game because it's not being a football game. Years ago
56:59
Speaker 1: it officially stopped being a football game, like two years ago.
57:03
Speaker 1: Are they still doing flag? I don't know, but they
57:06
Speaker 1: should just do. They should just do like random stuff
57:11
Speaker 1: like four guys racing the forty maybe swim, you know,
57:16
Speaker 1: two laps in the pool, who wins lifting contest? Like strongman?
57:23
Speaker 1: Maybe like paintball game. I don't know. You can just
57:25
Speaker 1: you can do whatever you wanted. But I wouldn't even
57:27
Speaker 1: have a football around because just making a mockery of
57:33
Speaker 1: what it used to be. And I don't want to
57:34
Speaker 1: sound like that guy and get off my long guy,
57:35
Speaker 1: but it used to mean something. The volume