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Business Panel: Restaurant Association president Mike Egan and Method Recycling co-founder India Korner · Best of Business

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Speaker 2: Let's get down you mon.
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Speaker 2: You've had a million million night. Join us this morning
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Speaker 2: for our business panel as Restaurant Association President and Monsoon
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Speaker 2: owner Mike Egan, Good morning, Mike.
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Speaker 3: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: Can you come a little bit closer to your bike?
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Speaker 2: You can get the same with you. India and India Corner.
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Speaker 2: Our India corner story is amazing. I mean I think
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Speaker 2: it's amazing. I heard about it, read about it. It's
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Speaker 2: a recycling company founded here in Wellington and actually operating
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Speaker 2: in Australia. And you would have seen the bins, brightly
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Speaker 2: colored bins. They look amazing and the company's name is
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Speaker 2: Method Recycling. In the corner is one of the two
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Speaker 2: the wife and husband team. So I say that just
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Speaker 2: in case your husband's listening, and can you get a
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Speaker 2: little bit closer to the microphone too, please in case
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Speaker 2: your husband's listening. That started this company explain to our
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Speaker 2: listeners what you do and how you do it and
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Speaker 2: what makes you so damn good and so different.
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Speaker 4: We just wanted a good looking bin for recycling. So
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Speaker 4: our customers are the likes of officers, universities, public spaces,
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Speaker 4: and we thought we're having a good looking solution to
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Speaker 4: separate waste. It could be out in the open and visible,
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Speaker 4: and then people would do it more rather than a
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Speaker 4: cobbled together station hidden in the back of a kitchen.
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Speaker 2: So how did you design them? Because they do look amazing.
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Speaker 2: It's yellow, red, and green, isn't it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, they're black bins. We wanted them to be
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Speaker 4: esthetically pleasing with a colored top. We did a lot
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Speaker 4: of research. First, got out there and spoke to officers,
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Speaker 4: you know, everyone from office managers to the staff using
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Speaker 4: the bins, to the cleaners. We wanted to see how
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Speaker 4: everyone would interact with a bin. And then we actually
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Speaker 4: engage some industrial designers to help us with the actual
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Speaker 4: design of the product. My husband's an engineer, so he's
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Speaker 4: used to the whole injection, molding and plastic side of things.
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Speaker 4: We had to get the tooling made that was actually
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Speaker 4: made in China, and we now manufacture the bins in
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Speaker 4: New Zealand and one going to een christ Church.
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Speaker 2: How cool is that? So you don't actually buy the
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Speaker 2: cheap and cheap and cheapest one from China, you actually
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Speaker 2: manufacture in New Zealand. Is that part of the business ethos?
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Speaker 3: It was?
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Speaker 4: And initially when we started, you know, we wanted we
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Speaker 4: didn't want to bin with like a line down out
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Speaker 4: that you could see. We wanted an upmarket product. So
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Speaker 4: my husband wanted to be able to see the manufacturing
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Speaker 4: and we thought that would be easier to do in
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Speaker 4: New Zealand and not much more expensive. And we do
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Speaker 4: use recycled content from New Zealand and the bins too.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, now I quickly and Mike, I am going
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Speaker 2: to come to you in a second. Don't feel left
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Speaker 2: out that I just wanted to do it to get
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Speaker 2: the full story. Now, you also do some major stadiums
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Speaker 2: in Australia and stuff. How did that? Hell did you
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Speaker 2: from little old Wellington starting up your own company, making
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Speaker 2: your own bins, having this plan get into some stuff
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Speaker 2: in Australia.
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Speaker 4: Some of them came to us at Lassian was our
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Speaker 4: first company, and I think Sydney Cricket Ground was similar,
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Speaker 4: but we actually went out to customers in Australia. In
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Speaker 4: the early days, we understood that if companies were moving offices,
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Speaker 4: it was a great time to target them for some
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Speaker 4: better looking bins. So I would actually, amazingly as it seems,
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Speaker 4: because we're a recycling company, we actually sent out brochures
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Speaker 4: and we would cold call property managers in those firms
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Speaker 4: and tell them about our product. And we had our
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Speaker 4: second young baby at the time, so I sent my
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Speaker 4: husband over as like here, we had ten meetings, gone
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Speaker 4: visit these companies, show them our product. Sometimes we even
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Speaker 4: just sent a bin over and they saw the sample.
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Speaker 2: And now bringing Mike Egan and Mike just had one
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Speaker 2: of the huge weekends in Wellington. We had well two
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Speaker 2: concerts on plus Cuba Duba. The town felt crazy. Are
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Speaker 2: we back Well?
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Speaker 3: It felt like a real grown up city again. It
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Speaker 3: was lovely to see it all. And of course the
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Speaker 3: weather was pretty well perfect perfect it was. It was
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Speaker 3: fantastic and you could see the happy faces. I went
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Speaker 3: to kuber Dooper on both days and yeah, I thought
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Speaker 3: it was a wonderful experience and occasion.
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Speaker 2: Now I didn't go Sunday, but I went Saturday in
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Speaker 2: the afternoon and then Saturday at night, and I actually
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Speaker 2: went reasonably late on Saturday night. I got a little
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Speaker 2: bit ugly late, but I mean it was very, very successful,
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Speaker 2: extremely well run. What was Sunday light?
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Speaker 3: Oh it was great. Yeah, it was a little bit
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Speaker 3: more chilled than Saturday, and because it finish was at
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Speaker 3: six o'clock, so it was sort of winding down. We
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Speaker 3: went later in the afternoon, went out for dinner and
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Speaker 3: Courtney Place, trying to go to Hummingbird, but it was closed,
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Speaker 3: so we found somewhere else to thinks next. But yeah, no,
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Speaker 3: it was great. I mean, yeah, Sunday is a much
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Speaker 3: more chill day. And I haven't talked to the secret
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Speaker 3: from the security company, but I thought everyone looked pretty
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Speaker 3: pretty happy and low key and there wasn't too much frenzy.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: It reminded me of the Sevens weekend.
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Speaker 3: It's that big.
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Speaker 2: I mean, especially when I was wandering around eleven thirty
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Speaker 2: at you know, twelve o'clock, it was it was humming.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but a greater gross cross section of people than
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Speaker 3: the Sevens. I mean, it goes from you know, young
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Speaker 3: to old and and drinkings and sort of zone. So
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Speaker 3: it's not people wandering around in the main areas, but
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Speaker 3: I think it's a bigger cross section of the population
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Speaker 3: than the Sevens.
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Speaker 2: Attracted definitely a lot more arty and the entertainment was amazing. India,
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Speaker 2: did you have a look around did.
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Speaker 4: You actually confess? Early in January planned a weekend away
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Speaker 4: with some friends and we went on a house and
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Speaker 4: garden tour in the y wrapper. Oh well, but they,
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Speaker 4: some of the Greytown shopholders actually said that it was
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Speaker 4: so busy there because I think it was about two
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Speaker 4: thousand people on this tour around eight different houses on
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Speaker 4: Friday and Saturday. They said it was busier than the
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Speaker 4: winter Christmas. They have a rapper, so they really said
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Speaker 4: it was busy and noticed the people shopping.
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Speaker 3: People love events, don't they. People love an excuse to
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Speaker 3: get out, and that's what we need. I mean, I
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Speaker 3: was thinking looking at some of the especially you know
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Speaker 3: the car park next to Florida Eaters, I was thinking,
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Speaker 3: you know, in summer, couldn't couldn't they do something there
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Speaker 3: every weekend. I know there's a cost of staging and everything,
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Speaker 3: but you imagine if every weekend there was just like
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Speaker 3: a mini a mini thing during the summer season.
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Speaker 2: But even that space where they brought that building down
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Speaker 2: on the next corner, so the one next to it
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Speaker 2: that would be great, wouldn't is that Gusney.
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Speaker 3: Street, Yeah, or even Glover Park Yeah, which was which
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Speaker 3: was pretty easy to sort of rope off. And you
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Speaker 3: use those inner city spaces, you know, not just once
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Speaker 3: a year, but maybe a few more times. But obviously
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Speaker 3: that's up to the organizers. They do, I know, they
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Speaker 3: work pretty hard. All we are getting Kouba Dupe together.
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Speaker 2: So I want to ask you, because you know, as
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Speaker 2: your role as president of the Restaurant Association throughout New Zealand,
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Speaker 2: are times still still tough?
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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah? From our members. I mean we've got two
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Speaker 3: and a half thousand members. It's probably the toughest I've
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Speaker 3: ever seen. I mean, the pandemic was a bit different
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Speaker 3: obviously because that was that was completely out of left field.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, in the last year or so, you know,
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Speaker 3: it's worse than two thousand and eight, worse than nineteen
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Speaker 3: ninety one. You know, it's it's pretty hard out there
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Speaker 3: for them.
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Speaker 2: Do they see the light?
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Speaker 3: Well, well, it's it's not consistent, you know, and we really,
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Speaker 3: you know, we want consistency because you know, we've got
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Speaker 3: our rosters and our food that we buy and everything,
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Speaker 3: and then you can go from feast to famine and
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Speaker 3: week to week and it's quite hard to organize a
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Speaker 3: business that way. I mean, we're we're very resilient and
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Speaker 3: we'll get through. But yeah, there is a lot of
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Speaker 3: But then towns like sorry I said it, all towns
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Speaker 3: like Queenstown that they seem a bit impervious to it
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Speaker 3: just because of the sheer number of tourists going through.
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Speaker 2: And it's so damn good. Yeah, I mean we you know,
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Speaker 2: we've got to realize that. You know, it's the greatest
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Speaker 2: place in New Zealand really for tourists India. Does it
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Speaker 2: affect you when things are tough? I mean some of
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Speaker 2: the things. I mean, if I was running a restaurant
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Speaker 2: and I could stop paying for recycling and do it
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Speaker 2: a cheap and nasty away, I'd probably look at sorry
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Speaker 2: to admit to it, probably do it that way. Does
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Speaker 2: it affect you, guys?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Our New Zealand sales have been really down the
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Speaker 4: last year compared to our other markets Australia and the UK,
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Speaker 4: and it's hard for us to know exactly if it's
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Speaker 4: you know, we've saturated the market here quite a lot,
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Speaker 4: but I think it is part of the sort of
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Speaker 4: economic times because we're not the cheapest solution, but.
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Speaker 2: You are a very clever solution. Now, tell me how
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Speaker 2: many can I don't want to get commercial information, but
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Speaker 2: it is a business. Now, how many clients do you
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Speaker 2: have in New Zealand.
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Speaker 3: We sell the.
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Speaker 4: Bins on a one off basis and then it's actually
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Speaker 4: up to the customers to get their recycling and things
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Speaker 4: like that.
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Speaker 2: Oh, so you're just the format of it. We don't
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Speaker 2: actually do any of the recycling.
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Speaker 4: I think the last count we sold like one hundred
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Speaker 4: and eighty thousand bins or something like that. We've been
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Speaker 4: going for ten years, so wow, over our three markets.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 4: We've got a new product too, which is actually ongoing
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Speaker 4: with customers for the larger corporates to help them track
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Speaker 4: their waist in the different stream. So it's a little
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Speaker 4: weight scale under the bin sends information to the cloud
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Speaker 4: and they can see on a portal or a dashboard
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Speaker 4: which areas in their business are doing well and which aren't.
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Speaker 4: So if they have goals like getting towards zero waste,
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Speaker 4: it's targeted at those sort of customers.
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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's amazing, and we didn't did you know
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Speaker 2: about it?
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Speaker 4: For it's taking longer to get that one off the around,
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Speaker 4: probably because of the economy. But we do have customers
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Speaker 4: like Quantas doing it.
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Speaker 2: So you sell to all over the world these fancy
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Speaker 2: recycling bins and it's up. They might not even be recycling,
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Speaker 2: really might they They might not be.
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Speaker 4: I mean, but I've toured through like flight Plastics in
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Speaker 4: the Hut and seeing that, you know, companies are doing it.
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Speaker 4: They're making new blueberry containers out of recycled plastic. We're
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Speaker 4: using recycled plastic and our bins. Like everyone just has
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Speaker 4: to start somewhere, and it's not going to be perfect everywhere,
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Speaker 4: but we can all try and.
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Speaker 2: And you know what, the good thing about it for
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Speaker 2: me is it looks right. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: if it looks right, you kind of like want to
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Speaker 2: try and do the right thing.
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Speaker 3: I think everyone if it's an easy solution and a
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Speaker 3: really good visual solution. And there's a lot of peer
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Speaker 3: pressure from people, you know, especially the young stuff that
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Speaker 3: we were with. They're really onto it, which is great.
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Speaker 2: They hate the fact if you weren't recycling, wouldn't they?
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, they want to know, Yeah, they.
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Speaker 2: Want to know that they're working somewhere that's trying to
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Speaker 2: do the right thing. So yeah, the Monday Business Panel,
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Speaker 2: which we do every couple of weeks, today we have
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Speaker 2: Restaurant Association President Monsoon Poun owner Mike Egan, joined by
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Speaker 2: Method Recycling co founder India Corner. I want to start
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Speaker 2: the segment with Wellington Central MP Tamotha. Paula was under
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Speaker 2: fire for her comments at a Radical Alternative to Policing event.
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Speaker 2: She claimed Wellington people do not want to see police
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Speaker 2: officers everywhere and all the beat police do is wait
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Speaker 2: for homeless people to leave their spot, pack up this
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Speaker 2: stuff and throw them in the bin and it wouldn't
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Speaker 2: be a recycling bin, just so you know. And there
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Speaker 2: so that'll upset you. What are your thoughts in there
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Speaker 2: on that When you first heard that, I was shocked.
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Speaker 4: Actually, I mean, I'm the mother of two boys eleven
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Speaker 4: and thirteen, and I've seen more police on the streets
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Speaker 4: and it's great because you know, soon the boys are
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Speaker 4: going to be wanting to go into town, you know,
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Speaker 4: not so much to restaurants, but out looking at shops
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Speaker 4: and it's just comforting to know, you know, perception and visibility.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's great. I was quite shocked
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Speaker 4: by the comments.
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Speaker 2: And you would be dealing with these people, you'd be
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Speaker 2: selling them bins. Surely they are feeling more secure, and
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Speaker 2: you know they've feeling like they want the city to
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Speaker 2: be better.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we need the city to be better.
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Speaker 4: I think having police there is very important. And I
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Speaker 4: saw she played that song at Qubdoopa, which I mean,
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Speaker 4: I might be a bit old school, but I thought
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Speaker 4: that just isn't something that a member of Parliament should
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Speaker 4: really do. To be honest, it just didn't feel right
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Speaker 4: to me.
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Speaker 2: No, I didn't feel right to me. I played I
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Speaker 2: played it this morning on the show. I thought it
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Speaker 2: was just like, yeah, not right. Mike. Now, you would
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Speaker 2: directly being involved with this as being president of the
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Speaker 2: restaurant association. Plus you know you're involved in a lot
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Speaker 2: of restaurants in town. What are your views on police
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Speaker 2: on the beat, the old fashioned beat cop.
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Speaker 3: Oh, well, I think it's it's fantastic and it's great
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Speaker 3: to see them wandering around and watching them engage with
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Speaker 3: the public. I'm always interested when people make these claims
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Speaker 3: where she said, wellings and people do not want to
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Speaker 3: see the people. How many wellings and people should we
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Speaker 3: do a survey and find out, because it's very easy
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Speaker 3: to make those statements. Wellings and people do not want
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Speaker 3: this or want that. But I haven't seen it. Now
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Speaker 3: you think a concrete about it. It sounds like a
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Speaker 3: throwaway line, because I actually think people do feel comfortable
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Speaker 3: having the police come around.
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Speaker 2: Now, you would walk around an area where you see
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Speaker 2: the street people living on the streets, right, that's your
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Speaker 2: normal walk to the gym, walk back to your restaurant,
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Speaker 2: walk around town. Have you ever seen police pick up
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Speaker 2: someone's stuff and put it in a bit?
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Speaker 3: No? No, no, I actually watched, you know every day
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Speaker 3: Like you said, I actually watch them engage with them.
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Speaker 3: They're trying to build rapport with them and trying to
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Speaker 3: build you some sort of connection so that they can
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Speaker 3: when they talk to them, maybe in a situation where
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Speaker 3: they're having a crisis or the behaving badly, that they've
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Speaker 3: already got that relationship. A bit like the old you know,
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Speaker 3: the beat cop that knew everyone's shopkeeper and everyone's name.
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Speaker 3: I know we're not going to get back to that.
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Speaker 2: Because of I think we are. I think we are.
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Speaker 3: You think some of the police as sort of regulars,
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Speaker 3: but I know that the shift were can they get
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Speaker 3: moved to other areas on a weekly basis. But you know,
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Speaker 3: if you know someone's name, you know that diffuses a
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Speaker 3: whole lot of aggression. If the police use their name
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Speaker 3: and know who they they are and vice versa and
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Speaker 3: treat them with respect, And yeah, there seems to be Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it just feel a lot more sort of calmer. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And do you say you've got two youngish not young
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Speaker 2: young guest so safe children? I mean when you come
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Speaker 2: into town, do you feel totally comfortable walking the streets
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Speaker 2: with them? Do you feel safe walking the streets because
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Speaker 2: so much is made about oh it's not safe to
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Speaker 2: walk down Lampton Key and it's not safe to walk
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Speaker 2: down Courtney Place. Do you feel safe? And does the
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Speaker 2: fact that there's police there make you feel any better
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Speaker 2: or worse?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: I feel totally safe, like I never have felt unsafe.
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Speaker 4: I'm probably not going out in small hours.
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Speaker 2: Anymore that often, but it's daytime.
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Speaker 4: The people moan, Yeah, it's great to have them there,
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Speaker 4: and I think it's nice for you know, children to
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Speaker 4: see that police are around and have something to aspire
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Speaker 4: to as a career. I saw a police man, kind
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Speaker 4: of younger man, deactive, having a situation with a woman
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Speaker 4: who obviously, you know, maybe it was on something or
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Speaker 4: a bit of mental issue, and he was dealing with
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Speaker 4: it amazingly well, in a very calm manner, you know.
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Speaker 4: And whereas I've walked you know, down you know, Murramar
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Speaker 4: or something with my young son, and he won't leave
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Speaker 4: my side if there's you know, someone that's sort of
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Speaker 4: a bit weird, so it's nice for them to have
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Speaker 4: police around, makes them feel more comfortable.
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Speaker 2: And I'm talking about the eastern suburbys. I feel like
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Speaker 2: that about kil Bernie. You walk down, you know, in
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Speaker 2: the main streets of kil Bernie at the moment, I
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Speaker 2: don't feel I feel safe for walking down Courtney Place
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Speaker 2: and then Bay Street and Kilbernie because you know this
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Speaker 2: police presence at Kilbernie. You don't you're not going to
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Speaker 2: see a policeman. I mean, you know, do you do
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Speaker 2: you feel safe to your family? Feel safe? Mike, Oh yeah, yep,
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Speaker 2: you said, oh yeah.
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Speaker 3: Then no, no, Well they're a butt street wise, and
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Speaker 3: one of my sons worked on one one ones and
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Speaker 3: and so he got quite quite an education from doing
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Speaker 3: that job for a year. So yeah, I mean, I
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Speaker 3: guess if you walk around with confidence and you look
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Speaker 3: like you know where you're going, I mean a lot
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Speaker 3: of how you perceived as your body language. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: the people that are causing trouble sort of try to
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Speaker 3: pack on the weakest, all the people that aren't looking
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Speaker 3: so sure of themselves and.
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Speaker 2: Give give them that advice because I say it all
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Speaker 2: the time and people probably get sick of hearing it
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Speaker 2: from me. Give the advice to walking down you know,
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Speaker 2: Courtney Place or any street where there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: people and a lot of different types of people. Let's
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Speaker 2: put it that way. What's your advice to keeping out
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Speaker 2: of trouble?
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Speaker 3: Oh, just look confident, like you know where you're going,
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Speaker 3: don't engage if you don't feel like it, don't let
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Speaker 3: people stop you and then try to say, hey, give
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Speaker 3: us some money or got some money. I saw with
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Speaker 3: someone yesterday who someone tried to They had no shirt
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Speaker 3: and they were trying to get their shirt off them
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Speaker 3: and were quite aggressive tours them. You know, in the
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Speaker 3: middle of the day. That clearly is something that's not normal.
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Speaker 3: But they managed to extract themselves from that situation. And
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Speaker 3: then I guess the more people that are around, the
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Speaker 3: less like it is. You know, busy cities tend to
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Speaker 3: feel a little bit safer. I mean, if you're going
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Speaker 3: down Manor Street at one in the morning and there's tumbleweeds,
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Speaker 3: you might feel a bit unsafe. But if you're walking
16:02
Speaker 3: down there and there's hundreds of people walking around like
16:05
Speaker 3: big cities are and say London or whatever, that you
16:08
Speaker 3: do for a little bit safer.
16:09
Speaker 2: And the other piece of advice I give to people
16:11
Speaker 2: walking down the streets is don't make eye contact. Yeah,
16:13
Speaker 2: you know that's you keep if you look in front,
16:16
Speaker 2: keep walking where you're walking, and don't make eye contact
16:18
Speaker 2: with anyone. Then you're not engaging, ay you So they
16:21
Speaker 2: have to make the first approach.
16:22
Speaker 3: Yeah.
16:24
Speaker 2: I still feel damn safe walking around the streets of Welling,
16:27
Speaker 2: And I felt damn safe on Saturday night with you know,
16:30
Speaker 2: such a huge crowd mess. You know, I haven't seen
16:34
Speaker 2: a crowd in wanting to like that since the Seven's weekend,
16:36
Speaker 2: have you?
16:36
Speaker 3: No? No, no, I felt very safe.
16:39
Speaker 2: It did feel very safe. We're in the business hour
16:41
Speaker 2: with Mike Egan and India corner. Is that Diy pronouncing
16:45
Speaker 2: your name right? Yes? I just wanted to make sure
16:49
Speaker 2: work on the controversial Golden Mile project begins tomorrow. Apparently
16:54
Speaker 2: Mike's smiling there. April first of April we were told
16:58
Speaker 2: April four's day the bulldozers we're going to.
17:00
Speaker 3: Arrive, but they might go just tracking, just tracking because day.
17:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we're starting on the Cambridge Terra Kent Terrace
17:09
Speaker 2: corner of Courtney Place. But we've now just found out
17:13
Speaker 2: again that the rest of the project won't begin till
17:17
Speaker 2: next year. No contracts are signed apparently, India. What do
17:21
Speaker 2: you make of this? So yout fan of what they're
17:23
Speaker 2: going to try and do on the Golden Mile or
17:25
Speaker 2: are you not a fan of it? What do you
17:27
Speaker 2: think should happen?
17:28
Speaker 4: I just don't think we really need it at the moment.
17:31
Speaker 4: I mean, I live in Wellington, We've got a family.
17:33
Speaker 4: I'm a rate payer. I know because we moved house
17:36
Speaker 4: four years ago. When we moved into our house, our
17:38
Speaker 4: rates were six nine hundred dollars and there was like
17:41
Speaker 4: a herald site you could jump onto and see what
17:43
Speaker 4: your rates will be in twenty twenty eight, they're going
17:46
Speaker 4: to be fifteen eight hundred dollars. So the rates on
17:49
Speaker 4: my house are doubling in seven years. And I don't
17:51
Speaker 4: know anything else. It's doubled in seven years, will double
17:54
Speaker 4: in seven years. It's just it's a lot. It's nine
17:56
Speaker 4: hundred dollars a month I'm paying at the moment, and
17:58
Speaker 4: that's going to go to what thirteen hundred dollars a month.
18:01
Speaker 2: It's almost like another mortgage, isn't it.
18:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like what you know, it might be nice
18:04
Speaker 4: to have, but don't do it when you've got other
18:06
Speaker 4: more pressing issues, you know, like the pipes and anything
18:08
Speaker 4: else that needs to be done around.
18:09
Speaker 2: Would you like to see it being sort of like
18:11
Speaker 2: a major component of this year's election, you know, would
18:14
Speaker 2: you like the people there standing for council or the
18:16
Speaker 2: mayor to actually say do you agree or disagree with
18:19
Speaker 2: what we're doing with the Golden Mic.
18:21
Speaker 4: That might get more people interested in voting in the
18:23
Speaker 4: council elections, which would be good. And I think I
18:25
Speaker 4: did wonder about the timing. If they say, well, it's
18:27
Speaker 4: not going to start till next year and there's elections
18:29
Speaker 4: in October, is there anything around the timing of it?
18:31
Speaker 1: So?
18:32
Speaker 4: Yes, I think it would be good.
18:33
Speaker 2: It's interesting because you're not involved at all apart from
18:37
Speaker 2: your rates bill.
18:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's the main thing I sort of see.
18:39
Speaker 4: I mean, we love going out and being in the
18:41
Speaker 4: city and it's lovely sitting outside and all of those things.
18:44
Speaker 4: And public transport's great. I mean, but I just cost.
18:47
Speaker 4: You've got to think of it at the end of
18:49
Speaker 4: the day. When your rates are going up. What's sixteen
18:51
Speaker 4: percent or something. That's got to come down to the budget,
18:53
Speaker 4: doesn't it.
18:53
Speaker 2: Now, Mike Egan, I haven't seen you publicly noted on
18:58
Speaker 2: your opinion on this now, you, more than anybody, have
19:02
Speaker 2: been the rock of Courtney Place for businesses. Your restaurant
19:06
Speaker 2: opened twenty five years.
19:08
Speaker 3: Ago, ninety ninety six. I started, yeah.
19:10
Speaker 2: Down there, it was it more than twenty years ago.
19:13
Speaker 2: I always thought Hummingbird was first and you were second.
19:15
Speaker 2: Have I got that wrong?
19:16
Speaker 3: Well, we had one Reddog all those years.
19:18
Speaker 2: Oh okay, sorry, yes, okay. So you've had a business
19:21
Speaker 2: in that place since ninety ninety six. That's right, that
19:23
Speaker 2: area and a very successful business. What are your thoughts
19:27
Speaker 2: give us Wellington? What your thoughts are?
19:30
Speaker 3: Well, I'm all for polishing the city and for for redoing,
19:34
Speaker 3: sorry for making it look good the streets and everything,
19:37
Speaker 3: But my big concern is how long things take to
19:41
Speaker 3: be done. We seem to move at a glacial pace.
19:45
Speaker 3: There's a water pipe once again going in Wakefield Street
19:49
Speaker 3: that just like I'll go the day after day and
19:52
Speaker 3: there's just no one working on it, and then there'd
19:55
Speaker 3: be another day and there's a few guys here, then
19:57
Speaker 3: no one else again. In the traffic is just backed
19:59
Speaker 3: up all the way around in Orangele Bay. I just
20:01
Speaker 3: wonder why, I'd love to know how we rate in
20:05
Speaker 3: terms of dollars per met of the sort of.
20:09
Speaker 2: Well aren't we paying three times too much? I mean
20:12
Speaker 2: that's been documented.
20:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, And just the time it takes them to do
20:16
Speaker 3: these things. When you look at some of the YouTube
20:18
Speaker 3: videos of infrastructure over projects overseas, the Chinese or the
20:21
Speaker 3: Japanese or the Dutch or whatever, they sort of seem
20:23
Speaker 3: to get on with it and just go hell for
20:25
Speaker 3: leather and get it done and have the least amount
20:27
Speaker 3: of disruption. I mean three years with hoardings, a bit
20:31
Speaker 3: like in Auckland with you know, the crosslink tunnel that
20:35
Speaker 3: just kill numbers and numbers of business on the street
20:39
Speaker 3: in Auckland.
20:39
Speaker 2: Do you feel the same. Do you feel it'll do
20:41
Speaker 2: the same in Wellington?
20:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it could do. I think
20:45
Speaker 3: it would just be just so hard to get to
20:47
Speaker 3: those businesses that have hoardings all the way along for
20:50
Speaker 3: two or three years that they'll go. I mean, I
20:53
Speaker 3: just wish is there a way to do it? And
20:56
Speaker 3: by a bit and peacemel when you talk to them
20:58
Speaker 3: about it, they said, no, they can't. They have to
20:59
Speaker 3: do it all at once, because you can't do sort
21:02
Speaker 3: of one hundred meters at a time, you have to
21:04
Speaker 3: do the whole mile all at the same time.
21:06
Speaker 1: Wow.
21:06
Speaker 4: We used to have it off with some Victoria Street
21:09
Speaker 4: right opposite where the council building ibry and everything is
21:12
Speaker 4: boardings everywhere, and we moved to as constant drilling apart.
21:15
Speaker 4: She moved from there, you know, the gallery cafe, so
21:19
Speaker 4: many places moved from that location. It was just terrible and.
21:22
Speaker 2: More of moving. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mike, I just want
21:26
Speaker 2: to ask you that Wakefield Street water pipe, which we
21:29
Speaker 2: all know has to be done right. We're not we're
21:30
Speaker 2: not question, but there's people like us and understand that
21:33
Speaker 2: there's going to be some downsides. Now, can you directly
21:35
Speaker 2: say it's affected your business, because now I know a
21:38
Speaker 2: lot of your people would come from that part. I
21:40
Speaker 2: see it. I see they walk from Wakefield Street into
21:42
Speaker 2: your restaurant.
21:43
Speaker 3: Ye, it definitely has. I just think people go, oh,
21:46
Speaker 3: the traffic's so horrendous and Wellington trying to get around,
21:49
Speaker 3: trying to get somewhere because of all the roadworks and
21:53
Speaker 3: the and the cones everywhere, we just won't bother, you know.
21:56
Speaker 3: So it definitely does. Anecdotally it does.
21:58
Speaker 2: Has your uber eats increased? No, see way of our
22:02
Speaker 2: restaurants and that street the doubled, and that's particular street.
22:06
Speaker 2: Our uber eats are doubled since the Wakefield Old Street
22:08
Speaker 2: start things.
22:09
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
22:10
Speaker 2: So yeah, interesting business panel. Every second Monday we start
22:15
Speaker 2: the week with a business panel. Today, we're lucky enough
22:17
Speaker 2: to have Mike Egan, who's not only the Monsoon Pern
22:19
Speaker 2: and a couple of other restaurants around town owner, but
22:21
Speaker 2: he's also the president of the Restaurant Association and Method
22:25
Speaker 2: Recycling co founder. In the corner, she co founders what's
22:29
Speaker 2: your husband's name? We've better give me a blake. Sorry,
22:32
Speaker 2: give that to me again. I had the wrong mic
22:33
Speaker 2: on Steve. Steve okay so co founder with Steve. Let's
22:38
Speaker 2: talk about the Wellington mayor or race today this morning
22:41
Speaker 2: exclusively on the show, Cafe Ice owner Carl Teffan Barker
22:45
Speaker 2: announced that he's entering the race to become Wellington mayor. Now,
22:50
Speaker 2: Mike Egan, you're openly involved with Vision Wellington because you
22:53
Speaker 2: want things to change and you want things to be better.
22:56
Speaker 2: What do you make of Carl hoopenbark and will he
23:00
Speaker 2: make a good mayor if he gets elected.
23:02
Speaker 3: I think he could do. He's a really passionate, thoughtful
23:06
Speaker 3: guy that really thinks about the big pitch. It doesn't
23:10
Speaker 3: strike me as being overly political left or right. I
23:13
Speaker 3: mean that in some ways they should stay out of
23:16
Speaker 3: local body of politics and just have champions that want
23:18
Speaker 3: to champion the city and be a great cheerleader for
23:23
Speaker 3: the city and be able to I guess, employ a
23:26
Speaker 3: fantastic CEO and then you be a bit like the
23:29
Speaker 3: chairman of the board sort of oversee it and have
23:32
Speaker 3: some great counselors. I mean that that would be the
23:34
Speaker 3: dream that people come together and to bipartisan sort of
23:38
Speaker 3: way to think of the city first, rather than politics.
23:41
Speaker 2: Now, now I've been given information and you might correct
23:44
Speaker 2: me if I'm right or wrong, and it might not
23:46
Speaker 2: even be vision that have done it. But somewhere in
23:49
Speaker 2: the last month a group has put a poll together
23:52
Speaker 2: to see where we are and who's running and who's sitting.
23:56
Speaker 2: Where are you aware of that?
23:58
Speaker 3: Pot?
23:58
Speaker 2: Okay? So that poll I was told that Ray Chung
24:02
Speaker 2: was out in front. Oh okay, and Tory Farno was second.
24:07
Speaker 2: You're nod in your head. What did you What did
24:09
Speaker 2: you make of that?
24:09
Speaker 4: I'm kind of surprised, actually, But but I like the
24:12
Speaker 4: fact that Carl's standing. I mean, if he owned a business,
24:15
Speaker 4: he's probably got it building a team and probably good
24:17
Speaker 4: at dealing with you know, cash flow and budget, so
24:20
Speaker 4: that might be helpful.
24:22
Speaker 2: Good and good times. When you can build a team
24:24
Speaker 2: and look after case and ca flow hard times, that
24:29
Speaker 2: makes it a little bit different. But did you hear
24:32
Speaker 2: him this morning on the show? You probably didn't driving
24:34
Speaker 2: you're driving in so.
24:35
Speaker 4: I was on the bus and what good idea?
24:38
Speaker 2: So have you heard of him? Do you know anything
24:41
Speaker 2: about him? Do you?
24:42
Speaker 4: I mean, I know he stood for the mayoral tea
24:44
Speaker 4: once before thank them for an electorate seat once before
24:47
Speaker 4: on the council.
24:47
Speaker 3: That's right.
24:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew he run Cafe ice I like the
24:51
Speaker 4: ice cream, so I don't know too much about him.
24:55
Speaker 4: I think he narrowly missed out last time, getting undern
24:57
Speaker 4: pretty specials.
24:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, so tell me Mike has vision Wellington. I mean,
25:01
Speaker 2: I know they've been at pains to say that they're
25:03
Speaker 2: not going to put candidates up and they're not going
25:05
Speaker 2: to do so. I get that, but as is there
25:08
Speaker 2: talk of somebody that that it's going to be our
25:12
Speaker 2: game changer.
25:13
Speaker 3: Well, the main one of the two of the main
25:15
Speaker 3: aims the vision want us to get more people to
25:17
Speaker 3: vote because we have such low participation, only thirty seven
25:20
Speaker 3: percent of people vote, which is pretty pretty bad. And
25:24
Speaker 3: the other one is to part of it is to
25:26
Speaker 3: tease out from from the participation by the wider community
25:30
Speaker 3: that are coming to our town hall sessions to get
25:33
Speaker 3: a great vision and then hopefully candidates, whether they knew
25:36
Speaker 3: or existing, can actually take on board some of those
25:39
Speaker 3: some of that vision that that we've managed to get
25:42
Speaker 3: from and we've got really smart people in the city
25:45
Speaker 3: that can aren't going to run for council, but they've
25:47
Speaker 3: got some great ideas and some great passion and we
25:50
Speaker 3: just some sort of we vote these councilors in, but
25:53
Speaker 3: there doesn't seem to be a real game plan, and
25:55
Speaker 3: so we actually will want a game plan and want
25:58
Speaker 3: to get one. And whether the current mayor or the
26:00
Speaker 3: current councilors go oh yeah, I like some of that,
26:03
Speaker 3: I'm going to I'm going to campaign and back that
26:05
Speaker 3: that would be great.
26:06
Speaker 2: Do you think there's a chance that we will have
26:07
Speaker 2: And I'm not ruling Carl Teffan Barker out for being
26:10
Speaker 2: this person, but a game changer, someone that you know
26:13
Speaker 2: walks and and you go, wow, that's what that's how
26:15
Speaker 2: Wayne Brown?
26:16
Speaker 3: Uh yeah. But but like everything, it's not just about
26:19
Speaker 3: the mayor. You know that they're just like as we
26:22
Speaker 3: all know that just one vote for.
26:23
Speaker 2: I mean they say that, but Wayne Brown's Wayne Brown,
26:25
Speaker 2: and good mayor is a good mayor of some. Michael
26:27
Speaker 2: Fowler was some Michael Fowler, and fran wild was fran Wilde,
26:30
Speaker 2: and you know Carrie cared cay predit cards.
26:33
Speaker 3: But but they but they had a they seem to
26:36
Speaker 3: have get enough counselors on board to get things to happen.
26:40
Speaker 3: We seem to have quite a lot of infighting and
26:42
Speaker 3: you know, leaks and it's just a bit disappointing the
26:44
Speaker 3: way they they operate sometimes all the time.
26:47
Speaker 2: All right, so you you don't know of anyone. No
26:50
Speaker 2: one's sort of no okay, uh today you were Yesterday Sunday,
26:55
Speaker 2: Nicola Willison announced that she's seeking advice on a potential
26:59
Speaker 2: breakup of our super Bark supermarkets duopoly of food stuff
27:02
Speaker 2: and Woolworths India. Do you reckon that we need to
27:06
Speaker 2: do that? Do you?
27:07
Speaker 1: Do?
27:07
Speaker 3: You?
27:07
Speaker 2: What do you feel as a bit bless person about
27:09
Speaker 2: the government coming in and saying, well, you're so damn successful,
27:12
Speaker 2: we're going to chop you up.
27:14
Speaker 4: Slightly slightly worrying, but I guess we don't know what
27:16
Speaker 4: they're going to do or what they're proposing. I mean,
27:19
Speaker 4: grocery prices are high, but also you can shop at
27:22
Speaker 4: other places. You can go to your local markets, you
27:24
Speaker 4: can go to fruit and vegetable stores. You know. I
27:26
Speaker 4: find shopping online helps me make sure I don't blow
27:29
Speaker 4: out the grocery bill. Yeah, people don't.
27:31
Speaker 2: Talk about that enough. You can get your toothpased, its
27:34
Speaker 2: probably cheaper online. You can get your shampoo, you can
27:37
Speaker 2: get all the stuff you need online, you can go
27:39
Speaker 2: down to the markets on Saturday or Sunday in Taranon.
27:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess we just have
27:44
Speaker 4: to wait and see what they're planning to do.
27:46
Speaker 2: But I did shrug your shoulders when I mentioned chopping up.
27:50
Speaker 2: You didn't like the idea of that.
27:51
Speaker 4: No, well, I mean we are a small place, and
27:54
Speaker 4: if you go to a small town, there's probably only
27:56
Speaker 4: one supermarket or one four square there anyway, So.
27:59
Speaker 3: Mike your thoughts, Yeah, I'm pretty similar. How does Costco?
28:03
Speaker 3: How's that disrupted the Auckland supermarkets here? It's fled out.
28:08
Speaker 3: I mean we had a Costco here in Piru twenty
28:10
Speaker 3: five years ago and or thirty years ago, and people
28:14
Speaker 3: didn't sort of get it that it's a big bulk buying.
28:16
Speaker 3: It would probably fly now, but back then, and I
28:18
Speaker 3: remember I went there the sort of the week it
28:19
Speaker 3: closed down, and all these people were there that had
28:22
Speaker 3: realized you buy toilet paper twice a year because you
28:25
Speaker 3: buy you buy fifty rolls, you know, and it's really
28:28
Speaker 3: cheap because everything comes in bulk. But now you know,
28:33
Speaker 3: the one in Auckland, I think's going gang buses. So
28:35
Speaker 3: I mean, if Costco see it work there. Maybe they'd
28:37
Speaker 3: like to come back to Wellington or christ it's the
28:39
Speaker 3: biggest cities.
28:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be I didn't keep forgetting about Costco and
28:43
Speaker 2: how well they're doing in organ because I keep thinking
28:44
Speaker 2: abou oudis the one. You know, the Australian third player
28:47
Speaker 2: would be the one that comes in. Do you like
28:49
Speaker 2: the idea of the government actually saying they're going to
28:51
Speaker 2: chop up existing companies by legislation, Well, I mean you'd
28:55
Speaker 2: be in trouble. They'd say you've got too much of
28:57
Speaker 2: them restaurant market and Wellington, We're going to chop you up.
29:00
Speaker 3: Well, the devils are the detail, isn't it? And I
29:03
Speaker 3: mean you don't you don't really see the supermarkets, you
29:07
Speaker 3: know they keeping your head down. I guess because they
29:10
Speaker 3: must be doing pretty well with two players.
29:12
Speaker 2: I never thought about that. I mean you think around
29:14
Speaker 2: Nichola Willison say I need Monsoon poo chops taking too
29:17
Speaker 2: much in.
29:17
Speaker 3: The business half only. But you think of the gas
29:20
Speaker 3: stations that have come out now, you know, with Gull
29:22
Speaker 3: and Waitomo and things. That's been great to shake that
29:25
Speaker 3: the original.
29:27
Speaker 2: No question, So project got a project, You've got someone really,
29:33
Speaker 2: really special coming in to Wellington, flying into Wellington someone
29:37
Speaker 2: who haven't been here for maybe twenty or thirty years,
29:39
Speaker 2: not someone that's been here five years ago. And I'm
29:42
Speaker 2: going to start with you on this one. You've got
29:44
Speaker 2: you know, this is a very special mother in law,
29:46
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Client that you've just signed
29:48
Speaker 2: up for all your bins all through Australia and you
29:51
Speaker 2: want to show them Wellington and you want to show
29:53
Speaker 2: off to them. You've flying in at nine o'clock on
29:57
Speaker 2: Saturday morning. What are you doing with them?
30:00
Speaker 4: I sort of gearing this toward more of a family
30:02
Speaker 4: activity actually, but we would probably go crocodile biking, probably
30:06
Speaker 4: wander through the city, maybe get ice cream at Duck
30:09
Speaker 4: Island or Cafe Ice and then maybe drive to Lae Bay,
30:13
Speaker 4: get some fish and chips at the Fresco caravans there
30:17
Speaker 4: and maybe head to Princess Bay and just have them
30:19
Speaker 4: on the bag.
30:20
Speaker 2: Where's Princess Bay sort.
30:21
Speaker 4: Of between Hout and Bay Island Bay. It gets a
30:24
Speaker 4: lot of the evening Simon, Yeah, yeah, I've heard after
30:28
Speaker 4: work to it's.
30:29
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, Princess. Mike's nodding his head saying he knows
30:32
Speaker 2: where it's going thank you.
30:33
Speaker 4: Maybe I should have sit a restaurant because I love
30:35
Speaker 4: restaurants too.
30:36
Speaker 2: Come on, Mike, what are you doing someone someone like
30:38
Speaker 2: one of your old partners that went overseas and you're
30:41
Speaker 2: coming back and you want to say ship Wellington's change.
30:43
Speaker 2: Let's let me show you off.
30:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I love up in Rookland. So I take
30:47
Speaker 3: them up Pole Hall which is now called track. So
30:51
Speaker 3: you get uber up to the wind turbine and you
30:53
Speaker 3: walk all the way down, right through the hills, past
30:56
Speaker 3: the Landia, all the way down.
30:57
Speaker 2: To Why are you taking an uber up there?
30:59
Speaker 3: Because otherwise you've got to walk back up to get
31:01
Speaker 3: your car. Oh okay, great, it's a walking track. Otherwise
31:05
Speaker 3: you've got to walk all the way back over. You
31:06
Speaker 3: could go from the bottom up, but I was It's
31:08
Speaker 3: it's much nicer to go down and you can enjoy
31:10
Speaker 3: the views, and you walk around the outskirts of and
31:13
Speaker 3: there's a swing bridge across and yeah.
31:15
Speaker 2: How dangerous is swing class? Which someone that doesn't like
31:18
Speaker 2: hypes like me or they'll be a bit nervous. Yeah
31:20
Speaker 2: you would be, okay. So you get to the top
31:22
Speaker 2: and you walk down. That's a pretty It's not like
31:24
Speaker 2: you you're a fitness freak. I thought you'd want.
31:26
Speaker 3: Them to do people from people from you know, they
31:28
Speaker 3: just got off the plane. They might be a bit tired.
31:29
Speaker 2: Yeah you got you got me, Okay, go keep going
31:32
Speaker 2: and what else are you doing after?
31:33
Speaker 3: And then if those haven't been the Vivian Westwood exhibition
31:37
Speaker 3: it's a Papa is incredible, you know, really really good
31:40
Speaker 3: to finish us on the twenty seventh of April. And
31:42
Speaker 3: as usual we're pretty everyone goes there on the last
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Speaker 3: two days and it gets back, but so try not
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Speaker 3: to go in the last two days. But yeah, it's
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Speaker 3: world class.
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Speaker 2: Mike Egan India Corner. Thank you both so much for
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Speaker 2: coming in and great to have successful Wellington business people
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Speaker 2: coming on the show. And good luck, good luck getting
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Speaker 2: through this this hump. Mike. I know that you do
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Speaker 2: better than most so you probably don't need as much
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Speaker 2: luck as some of us do. But good luck getting
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Speaker 2: through the hump. And in dear, I love what you
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Speaker 2: guys are doing, so good luck and if we can
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Speaker 2: ever help in any way, we'd love to help.
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Speaker 3: The great products.
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Speaker 2: What a great idea, great great Wellingtonia on our business show.
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Speaker 2: Love it, love it, both great Wellingtonians on our business show.
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Speaker 2: It's lovely to have you both in here. Good luck,
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Speaker 2: thank you, appreciate it. Hearing from the leaders that matter.
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