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Mac & Bone Show - Bill Bender Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back in back in bug Joe. We hoped Max
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  Speaker 1: enjoying day one of his cruise, Fitty and I holding
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  Speaker 1: it down here all week long. Last week we tried
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  Speaker 1: to preview the college football season with the great Bill
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  Speaker 1: Bender of Sporting News, but it failed on our end
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  Speaker 1: with the phones. But we're going to try it again
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  Speaker 1: here and a reminder, the Sporting News college football preview
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  Speaker 1: magazine back out on newsstands first time in fourteen years.
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  Speaker 1: You can get the Sporting News right there in your
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  Speaker 1: hands like I have right here. Something just feels right
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  Speaker 1: fitty about not only the preview magazines, but when you
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  Speaker 1: get one right there in your hands right the Sporting.
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  Speaker 2: News magazine seasons one of the best things as a
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  Speaker 2: college football fan. Good to see the Sporting News back
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  Speaker 2: on the newstands. It'll be one that I will add
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  Speaker 2: to my collection, which I'll begin adding or collecting this week.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the biggest reasons why we love the
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  Speaker 1: Sporting News magazine. Here, Bill Bender, college football writer for
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  Speaker 1: a long time love Sporting News, joins us now in
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  Speaker 1: the mack and bone.
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  Speaker 3: Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Bill, thanks for adjusting and coming back on this week.
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  Speaker 4: Well first, I feel super old now that you said
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  Speaker 4: fourteen years, and I've been at Sporting News long enough
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  Speaker 4: that I remember when we stopped doing it. Now we
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  Speaker 4: have it back. I think you said it the big
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  Speaker 4: yellow cover we have on it.
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  Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun to.
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  Speaker 4: Put together and the analysis and like you guys both said,
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  Speaker 4: I just like having something you know that you can
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  Speaker 4: read in your hand. You know, my kid don't know
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  Speaker 4: the concept of that maybe with the magazine, but I
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  Speaker 4: sure do.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a lot of fun. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I learned how to read by reading the sports section,
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  Speaker 1: so I kind of just missed the stuff that you
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  Speaker 1: can just read right there in front of yourself. Bill
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  Speaker 1: in this edition. I'm not blaming you for this, but
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  Speaker 1: Sporting News projects the game Cock twelfth in the SEC.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about the game cost entering the
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  Speaker 1: season and how much pressure is truly on Jay Bieber
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  Speaker 1: this year to not finish twelfth in the SEC?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's.
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  Speaker 4: A there's a lot of really good teams in the SEC.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's the conference when we get into comparing conferences,
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  Speaker 4: they're the one that has the most teams that could
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  Speaker 4: make the playoffs. In terms of programs that you're like,
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  Speaker 4: man that's playoff caliber team. And you know South Carolina's
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  Speaker 4: it was a rough year last year. You're looking for
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  Speaker 4: hopefully a bounce back season from Leonoris and then you
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  Speaker 4: go from there. But I mean, it's just a tough weekend,
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  Speaker 4: week out schedule when you play in that conference. And
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  Speaker 4: for South Carolina, yes, they're going to need to see
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  Speaker 4: some growth. I'm looking at predictions now as you can predict. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: I did the Big Ten previews, so I'm not, you know,
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  Speaker 4: throwing somebody under the bus. I just want to make
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  Speaker 4: sure I know what I'm looking at here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well we don't. We don't throw people under the
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  Speaker 1: bus on our radio show either. They're not our co workers.
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  Speaker 3: Bill.
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  Speaker 1: As far as Clemson goes, we'll stay the Palmetto State.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think the biggest reason there's been for
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  Speaker 1: the the dip. I mean, I'm not saying they're they're
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  Speaker 1: way under, but they're under for who they expect to be.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? And is there a
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  Speaker 1: path out of this or is this just kind of
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  Speaker 1: who Clemson is right now?
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  Speaker 4: Well? I think some of it was you went on
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  Speaker 4: a run at Clemson, a quarterback play when it went
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  Speaker 4: from you know, Taj Voyd a record center, to Deshaun
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  Speaker 4: Watson who had an unbelievable college career, to Trevor Lawrence No,
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  Speaker 4: and they went on this run of quarterbacks and never
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  Speaker 4: since it. You went to DJ, you to kid club Nick,
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  Speaker 4: and now there's a question market quarterback. I've always kind
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  Speaker 4: of openly wondered, where's that firepower at receiver? You know,
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  Speaker 4: I went to the National Championship game against Alabama where
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  Speaker 4: they won forty four to sixteen, and they couldn't be
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  Speaker 4: stopped throwing the ball, and you know, so it's not
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  Speaker 4: like they're bad, but coming off last year when we
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  Speaker 4: had them in the top ten, even in the top
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  Speaker 4: five I think in the preseason, and then they had
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  Speaker 4: a disappointing seven and six year, there's a little bit
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  Speaker 4: the answer for there. But I'm not one of those
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  Speaker 4: fire Dabo guys. I just don't get into that conversation
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  Speaker 4: because I still think outside of Indiana last year, what
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  Speaker 4: they've been able to do there under his tenure is
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  Speaker 4: one of the most remarkable stories, at least in my lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my take has been I don't really think that
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  Speaker 1: Dabbo is going to be fired. If Dabbo got, you know,
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  Speaker 1: is not he enamored with the game. We certainly see
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  Speaker 1: a lot of coaches in college sports leave the sport.
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  Speaker 1: I think that would be more of Dabo's way out.
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  Speaker 1: As far as the teams in the state of North Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: NC State gets their star quarterback back at CJ. Bailey,
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  Speaker 1: what's your expectation of the pack here at twenty six?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, can they take that next step?
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, you know, as we were putting quarterback ratings together,
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  Speaker 4: started taking a closer look at CJ. Bailey and then
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  Speaker 4: you're like, wow, he pulled out to feel pretty well, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: TDDN T ratio is better than.
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  Speaker 3: What I thought it was.
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  Speaker 4: He plays well against ranked team, So you know, can
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  Speaker 4: they build on last year? And you know that program
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  Speaker 4: you've become accustomed to seven to nine wins is pretty given,
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  Speaker 4: you know. Dave dorn I looked this up when we
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  Speaker 4: were talking about expanding the playoffs. Had we been in
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  Speaker 4: a twenty fourteen playoff the last twelve years, they would
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  Speaker 4: have been in the playoff six times.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, like Iowa.
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  Speaker 4: They're kind of like Iowa up here in Big ten country,
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  Speaker 4: where you kind of take the eight to nine wins
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  Speaker 4: for granted, even if you know they've had some ordinary
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  Speaker 4: seasons along the way, But I just think that's a
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  Speaker 4: tribute to what Dave Doran at the steady amount of
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  Speaker 4: success they've been able to have under him.
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  Speaker 1: The team not far from the from the pack is Duke.
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  Speaker 1: And the first two years of many Dz, even as
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  Speaker 1: a Duke fan, I thought, year one, with all they lost,
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  Speaker 1: including Elco at the oh man, that's gonna be tough
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  Speaker 1: for him to try to sustain what Elko did. And
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  Speaker 1: then year one he goes out and he crushes it.
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  Speaker 1: Year two, I thought, oh man, how are they gonna
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  Speaker 1: how are they gonna live up to what he did?
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  Speaker 1: Year one they go out and do it again. What's
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  Speaker 1: your take on Duke here? Year three, Many Diaz, do
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  Speaker 1: we underesimate him again? Or is this is this a
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  Speaker 1: year where the roster attrition, losing Mensa and markate where
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  Speaker 1: Duke might fall off a little bit here.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean losing Mensa.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, when we had our back in January, we did
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  Speaker 4: the way way too early top you know, the ridiculous
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  Speaker 4: early top twenty five whatever it was. And I'm doing
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  Speaker 4: that during the National Championship game, and I had Duke
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  Speaker 4: in the top twenty five and then Mensa leaves and
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  Speaker 4: then he kind of dropped them out. That's not to
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  Speaker 4: say that Manny Diaz can't coach this team up. He
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  Speaker 4: is in an outstanding football coach. I like Shepherd a
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  Speaker 4: lot running back. He's explosive. Can you rely on him?
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  Speaker 4: And then again, just can they build on the expectations
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  Speaker 4: from last year? I mean they were the surprise ACC champion.
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  Speaker 4: You look at their schedule a little bit. North Carolina
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  Speaker 4: and Clemson are at home, Stanford's at home, toughest road
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  Speaker 4: games probably you know obviously Miami and then a Friday
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  Speaker 4: night game at Virginia. So it'll be a fun schedule.
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  Speaker 4: Interested to see how they do it Illinois.
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  Speaker 3: Early in the season too.
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  Speaker 1: There was a path for Duke when you were doing
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  Speaker 1: that top twenty five where the way the ACC plays
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  Speaker 1: out in the projections after Miami, you could have made
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  Speaker 1: the case that Duke may have been the second best
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  Speaker 1: team if they got Mensa, Bark and Shepherd all together.
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  Speaker 1: That team was a you know, border wide playoff team
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  Speaker 1: on offense. So that's just the way the world of
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  Speaker 1: college football, though, what you think you have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of days later. You don't the last team
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  Speaker 1: on in that area, unc Are you? Do you see
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  Speaker 1: any hope here under Belichick? Or is this saying just
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  Speaker 1: ultimately end up in a big disaster. What's your what's
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  Speaker 1: your feel for Belichick? Gear two and ultimately where this
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  Speaker 1: thing is headed?
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  Speaker 4: Jess Klie makes the pieces fit, I mean, and it's
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  Speaker 4: probably there will be significantly less hype around that team.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we don't.
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  Speaker 4: Remember the Labor Day game last year. I mean it
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  Speaker 4: was I mean, they had like three hour coverage beforehand,
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  Speaker 4: and yeah, they you can defend that. We were all
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  Speaker 4: super interested in that. So you know me, can they
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  Speaker 4: get back to five hundreds? Can they get to a
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  Speaker 4: bull game? They were close in some games, They did
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  Speaker 4: get better at the end of the season.
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  Speaker 3: It just wasn't you know, what maybe he expected.
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  Speaker 4: So another team, we'll see how the roster pieces fit
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  Speaker 4: a lot of portal additions, and we'll see if it's
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  Speaker 4: a I don't know if it's possible, is that there's
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  Speaker 4: going to be less tabloid feel around the team this
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  Speaker 4: year than there was last year.
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  Speaker 1: Bill Bender with us on the Mack and Boat Show,
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  Speaker 1: Sporting News, Sporting News dot Com the Preview magazine. Wherever
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  Speaker 1: books and magazines are sold, make sure you get your
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  Speaker 1: copy right now. Who's a couple of group of five
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  Speaker 1: teams to keep your eye on this year as potential
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  Speaker 1: playoff teams? We always get into it as the season
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  Speaker 1: goes along. But who are you looking at right now as
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  Speaker 1: teams that can make the playoffs?
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  Speaker 3: I mean Boise State.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that's such a pop out answer, right, that's
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  Speaker 4: so we love good good job.
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  Speaker 1: That's like saying Zaga basketball, right, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Gonzaga would be good this year. Boise State in
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  Speaker 4: the PAC twelve though, that's the interesting part. You know,
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  Speaker 4: the PAC twelve is back sort of.
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  Speaker 3: They've got eight teams.
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  Speaker 4: The Mountain West Conference has eight teams, and I like
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  Speaker 4: at North Dakota, you know, I'm really interested to see
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  Speaker 4: how North Dakota State does. This team that's coming up
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  Speaker 4: from We know they're an SDS powerhouse. They got the
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  Speaker 4: Fargo Dome. Do they make that jump? We've seeing programs
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  Speaker 4: like APP and you know, my way, Youngstown State moved up,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and those kinds of things.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll see. I guess young Sound State didn't move up,
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  Speaker 3: but APP did.
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  Speaker 4: And Marshall that's the one, you know, and then they
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  Speaker 4: have immediate success. Saved myself from being get a correction there.
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  Speaker 4: But I want to see on North Dakota State Dutch
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  Speaker 4: can they make the immediate adjustment and you know they're
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  Speaker 4: eligible for a bull so they can make the playoff.
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  Speaker 4: James Madison be another example. They made a quick jump
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  Speaker 4: and they just made the playoff last year.
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  Speaker 1: Very interesting. What do you think about We're getting some
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  Speaker 1: ask bender questions here on the text line. Here are
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  Speaker 1: you buying into the hype year one? James Franklin that
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  Speaker 1: Virginia Tech sort of.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll hedge it this way. I think he fits
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  Speaker 4: there and he'll be able to recruit there. One of
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  Speaker 4: the things.
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  Speaker 3: And Ceazy think.
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  Speaker 4: About this when there was a time that you and
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  Speaker 4: I experienced there in the early two thousands where Virginia
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  Speaker 4: Tech was a more notable program than Penn State was.
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  Speaker 4: Like late they started the struggle a little bit. Virginia
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  Speaker 4: Tech coming off the vic era, they were game Day Central.
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  Speaker 4: I mean game Day loved going to Blacksburg. I think
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  Speaker 4: she'll recruit well there. For all of the talk about
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  Speaker 4: how he lost top ten showdowns at Penn State, which
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  Speaker 4: he did basically couldn't be at Ohio State, Penn or Michigan.
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  Speaker 4: He did recruit Michael Parsons, he did recruit safe One,
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  Speaker 4: Barclay and several others, so he can do that at
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  Speaker 4: Virginia Tech over by them, and I think they could
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  Speaker 4: be a borderline top twenty five team that has some
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  Speaker 4: success this year.
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  Speaker 1: How do you think on the reverse, how do you
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  Speaker 1: think you mentioned governing the Big ten? How do you
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  Speaker 1: think Matt Campbell does that Penn State.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure Mac on his cruise wants to know that
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  Speaker 4: I'm very shygh on Penn State this year, so you
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  Speaker 4: got to tell him.
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  Speaker 3: I said that when I was back.
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  Speaker 4: I've because partially because I like Matt Campbell a lot
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  Speaker 4: culture builder, the fact that so many guys from Iowa
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  Speaker 4: State transferred the air shows they still want to play
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  Speaker 4: for him. And then two, their schedules pretty friendly. As
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  Speaker 4: Mac is probably mentioned, they do not play Oregon, Indiana
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  Speaker 4: or pennsbora Ohio State, and they get Michigan on the road.
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  Speaker 4: That'll be tough. I'll play UFC at home. They could
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  Speaker 4: be one of those teams in November that you're like,
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  Speaker 4: well they're eight one, but they haven't played anybody, you
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  Speaker 4: know the Classic do they deserve to be in? But
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  Speaker 4: I think Matt Campbell will do a nice job there.
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  Speaker 1: Bill, you're doing a nice job as well against Sporting
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  Speaker 1: News magazine out now, Bill, give us your info and
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  Speaker 1: what you're working on now before the season gets going.
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  Speaker 3: You know. I'm at Bill Bender ninety two at Sporting
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  Speaker 3: News dot com.
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  Speaker 4: I'm coming out of the fourth weekend excited to watch
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  Speaker 4: the US soccer team tonight. We have a piece about
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  Speaker 4: Lebron and super teams today and then tomorrow and Wednesday
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  Speaker 4: should have came on maybe tomorrow or Wednesday. Then your listeners
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  Speaker 4: really be roast to me because we have playoff predictions
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  Speaker 4: and bold projections, and everybody knows that bull projections in
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  Speaker 4: July I are always one.
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  Speaker 1: We just did a Panther's Bold Prediction segment. But the
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  Speaker 1: caveat is we just don't talk about them past July.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what we do on the show. It does
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  Speaker 1: everyone just forget what we said because we're never right.
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  Speaker 3: So there we go, fair enough and exactly.
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  Speaker 4: And I missed being down there in Charlotte. Always loved
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  Speaker 4: it when I lived down there, And uh, I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: it's nice and cool down there today, right.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll be uh, we'll be reading you and
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  Speaker 1: we'll be hearing you all as we often do on
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  Speaker 1: uh the Golf Shop radio show as well on Saturday
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  Speaker 1: mornings on WFNZ.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Those guys keep me in line as well.
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  Speaker 4: So well, have a great week and thanks for having
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  Speaker 4: me on as always.