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Into the Weeds History on the Line GRB’s Prison Calls · Military Broadcast Radio | MBR Talk

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  Hello, everybody, and welcome to Into the Weeds podcast.
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  I'm Amber, and thank you for joining us here on Military
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  Broadcast Radio. I don't know what's going on.
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  OK, we're just going to remove this.
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  Sorry, guys, I had a technical difficulty here.
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  We're going to save the changes. OK, so I hope everybody's doing
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  well tonight. I definitely did not expect to
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  find myself this early getting back into Gypsy Rose Blanchard
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  content. I I really honestly wanted to
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  stay away from this content as much as possible because it's a
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  really toxic, you know, environment.
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  There's a lot of crazy things that go on in the background.
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  And then also just full frontal, you know, there's lots of people
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  just fully, you know, putting it out there.
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  And so, you know, I haven't really wanted to delve back into
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  it. I know there was the book
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  written, which I haven't talked about, mainly because I was kind
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  of disheartened that independent researchers weren't sourced.
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  All of the mainstream media were sourced, but none of the
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  independent researchers like fancy myself.
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  And so I didn't want to really talk about it.
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  And then, gosh, there's just so much, you know, there's been a
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  lot that I haven't said and there's a lot that I want to
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  say, especially about things that I'm involved in.
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  You know, I, I hope you guys remember that I am doing my own
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  project for the state of Missouri.
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  But I honestly don't know what that's going to look like or you
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  know, how that's going to take form.
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  You know, I don't know what that's what that's going to be,
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  but at the end of the day, I'm still working on that and
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  there's still so much information coming out.
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  And there's going to be even more information coming out
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  because I put in a FOIA quite a maybe about 3 weeks ago
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  somewhere around there. And I think potentially the
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  information that's going to come out from that is going to be
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  huge. So, So unfortunately I got
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  sucked down the Gypsy Rose Blanchard black hole.
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  That's what it's become. And as much as I want to try and
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  shake it off, I can't. And yeah, so, so we're just
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  going to get into it and we have two special guests today.
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  We have nights. And Laura just tuned in, so.
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  Yeah. So it was upstairs.
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  I didn't realize what time it was.
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  Oh. See.
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  You didn't yell at me either. You didn't.
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  Yeah, well, you know, you're an adult.
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  Barely. I'm just playing whatever your
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  frontal cortex has now sealed or whatever comes together.
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  Don't so she's. She is a full adult, a
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  full-fledged adult now, but we have 1980 millennial commentates
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  and we also have Nancy from the Toll podcast, so I'm going to
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  bring them up now. Hello Millennial, and hello
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  Nancy. Hello.
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  Hi, thanks for having me. Thank you for being here.
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  Hello, Millennial. Hey, Hi.
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  It's good to see you. Millennial is traveling and she
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  graced us with her presence even though she is out and about
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  doing her thing. So thank you very much,
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  Millennial, for that. You're.
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  Welcome. OK, so we are going to actually
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  get into well, since I was gone last week, I wasn't able to talk
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  about the pretend podcast and and our involvement in it.
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  We had an initial like get to know you meeting that lasted
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  probably almost two hours, something like that.
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  And then I have been corresponding with him back and
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  forth through e-mail almost every day.
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  The last few days I haven't, I haven't talked to him, but up
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  until the last few days because I've been super busy.
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  So, so I in good faith, you know, I think that he's going to
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  do a really great job. I have gone and listened to his
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  other series, the LA Donna Humphrey one, which Nancy told
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  me to go check out is super interesting.
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  You want to talk a little bit about that, Nancy?
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  It is a Bentonville, AR woman who first was into the murder of
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  a young lady down there, and then it just devolved into all
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  of her, all of her fingers and all of the things.
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  And the more he unraveled, the worse it got.
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  And so it is amazing. He owns the trademark Who's
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  Afraid of La Donna Humphrey. He tried to trademark it and he
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  turned around and was able to trademark it.
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  So he's like, I, I own this now, like.
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  That's iconic. I love.
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  That, but he does a really great job and he he focuses on con
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  artists and, you know, trying to dig up what's going on.
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  He usually gets that person and you know, now we know that he
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  went to Louisiana and he met with Gypsy and spoke with her.
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  I myself wasn't. Confused.
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  For this piece, and so was producer Pam, my sister, and we
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  joined him. My part was mainly on Boots on
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  the ground here in Springfield. I have done stories about Gypsy
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  from investigative journalist perspective with the sheriff and
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  a neighbor who'd never been interviewed by the media.
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  So those were the questions that I got asked for the most part.
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  Yeah, because. I decided not to participate.
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  Yeah, and millennial has a very strict policy.
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  Do you want to say what it is? No.
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  OK, I thought it would be funny. Never mind.
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  OK, OK, hold on. Sorry about that.
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  OK, so we are going to get into the actual calls.
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  There's so many of them. There's literally So I think all
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  together there's like 44,000 files.
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  Oh boy. But not all of them are audio,
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  and not all of them are Gypsy. So actually, you want to take
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  that so you can highlight comments?
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  Sure, there's a Chris Hansen mouse there for you.
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  Don't you even I'm getting into some beef with people mouse pad.
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  Yeah, some. Beef with people because.
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  Exactly. I do not like this man.
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  Anyway, I was really nervous when I found out about the A 24
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  film because I was like, Oh no, I was like Robert Pattinson
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  playing him is going to give him a bigger ego, but it doesn't
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  look like he's entirely the good guy in the film, so I'm excited.
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  So anyway. Funny, funny.
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  Yeah, Miller, your audio is very low.
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  Yeah. I'm not sure what to do because
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  I'm using my laptop microphone. I don't have one.
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  I didn't bring one with me to plug in so I'm I'm really sorry.
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  I'm not sure. I'm not sure what to do about
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  that. I pulled the laptop up closer to
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  me. Scream.
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  I was just about to say, use your outside voice.
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  Hello. Hello.
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  Hello. OK.
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  So Nancy, you had a video that you wanted to look at and that
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  was called It's like a big hotel stay.
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  Can you tell us why you wanted to look at that?
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  Yeah, I think it's it's also about the HBO premiere of Mommy
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  Dead and Dearest and the family going there and they're actually
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  at the premiere and they're talking to Gypsy on the phone.
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  And I just find that really fascinating that you know.
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  The the if you die if you see. Celebrities, you need to tell
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  me, you know, it's just all about the fame, the lights and
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  the glitz. And I also, Rod's reaction was
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  just kind of like, this is weird, you know, this is
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  uncomfortable. That's how I felt that he came
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  across. And also, yeah, when she's
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  talking to Bobby about, oh, it's, it's like a dorm here, you
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  know, prison's a breeze. I got a key to my my room and
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  everything's. Fine, you know it's.
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  Just like it goes back to what Sheriff Arnott was talking about
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  when I interviewed him about how there's no lessons learned here.
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  There's been no, no big consequences.
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  You know, that accountability that she was able, she was able
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  to take advantage of in prison and and learn lessons.
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  It just didn't happen. And I think that this kind of
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  really kind of shows that, OK. Yeah, no, I agree with you on
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  all those points. And these these videos have
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  definitely or these audio calls have definitely painted an even
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  clearer picture of Gypsies character and the people who
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  surround her. Because I think it's kind of
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  been muddled for so many years about like who she truly was and
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  this is her in her own words, interacting with all kinds of
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  different people. So we can't, she can't say, oh,
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  I was manipulated by this person.
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  You know what I mean? And I also think the difference
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  between oh, sorry, I'm. Sorry, we had a little lag.
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  The difference between the videos that we saw before,
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  right, the foyer videos that were released, you got a hold
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  up, was just kind of voyeurism. It was just kind of her
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  cosplaying and, you know, doing this thing for this boy.
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  And it was, it was different than what we're hearing now.
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  Like you're saying these, these are real.
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  This is the real her. There's no pretend here on who
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  she is. I also picked this one because
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  it doesn't talk about her cooter and maybe the only one that
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  doesn't talk about her cooter. But I was really excited about
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  that because. Right.
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  Yeah, I'm not interested in playing any of her calls or like
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  that. It's, you know, it doesn't have
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  anything to do with the case. The stuff that we revealed that
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  was with Nick, I feel like contributed to the crime.
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  But I feel like all this stuff just shows that she's a freak
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  and that's not really my business.
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  All of this stuff is more about her character and just the
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  person of who Gypsy Rose Blanchard really is.
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  Some of the call like Nancy said she can't not talk about her
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  body and her private stuff. So some of the calls like, even
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  though, even though she does talk about that, she talks about
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  that all the time and, and it intertwines with everything
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  else. So you have a call that has like
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  interesting information and she'll still get that in there.
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  Substantial information, she's still talking about that, which
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  I think the overarching humanity of it is he that something's
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  wrong. Like we don't the molestation.
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  Do we know like we don't Her having exposure to the Internet
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  and these men at such a young age, like something has sparked
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  this to where it just never, ever stops in her mind.
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  And there's no medication that she's taking to quell or get
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  help on that on that level. And it's so unfortunate and so
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  glaring in these conversations. Yeah, she almost seems to have
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  like an obsessive personality, obsessive compulsive disorder
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  when it comes to certain topics. Yeah, it's.
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  Yeah. It's been very interesting.
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  So we're going to listen to it's like a big host hotel stay and
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  that's on our channel. It's 13 minutes and 35 seconds.
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  I will stop it. If you guys want me to stop,
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  just say pause, OK? And I'm seeing CJ's comment over
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  here. OK.
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  And I would agree, man, this makes Ryan look like a total.
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  I mean, you know, something that he said a lot within the last
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  couple days is, you know, this is private conversations with me
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  and the woman that I was married to.
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  Well, I mean, yeah, but some of that stuff, it's like, why would
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  you even say that knowing it's being recorded by law
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  enforcement? Cherokee girl I agree he.
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  Wants to get caught and he also it really, really solidified by
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  perception Brian when he said it doesn't have.
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  To be a kid. Yeah, could be Chris.
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  Talking about getting caught by a kid.
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  He was. He was, which is.
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  I think he might actually be a problem well.
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  I mean, considering the fact that he wrote to a woman who
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  murdered her mother and and then offered himself up on a silver
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  platter. And she's very clear that she's
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  not into it. But at the same time, she's
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  clear that she is into it in these in these audio calls.
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  OK, here's the thing. Here's the thing, sometimes when
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  you're hypersexual, you don't really care what the outlet is
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  that much. Maybe you do a little bit, you
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  know, and I'm not even saying that to excuse her, but he was
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  just an outlet and he's somebody who was always there, would
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  always pay her bills. Pretty sure her call where she
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  told Brian that she only tolerated Brian.
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  She needed him. Yeah, she said.
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  It that that being married to him would look a bit good to
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  parole. Well, yeah, we definitely know
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  that. I agree.
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  And you know. Did enough?
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  Did enough? Yeah, no.
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  No 100%. I do.
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  I do agree there, but on like some calls you'll hear her.
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  And I remember hearing her tell somebody, I don't remember who
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  it was because I've listened to a bunch of them, that she was
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  attracted to him. So it's like, I think she tells
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  different people different things.
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  Well, there what? There's the one where she tells
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  Christy that you know she was wet.
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  She did. She did.
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  Yeah, she thought she'd started and turns out when she went to
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  the bathroom, she was just and she was telling her stepmom that
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  she is attracted to Ryan. Yeah.
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  I've said some weird shit to you, but holy moly not that.
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  These, these are, sorry, these are men who look at this girl
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  who looks like a 12 year old, sounds like a 12 year old and
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  says, oh, yeah, give me some more of that.
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  Like there's just a whole circle around here.
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  Yeah. Most definitely, yeah.
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  And like CJ said, you know, every 15 minutes you get an
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  interruption saying, hey, you're being recorded.
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  And somebody asked me, you know, is it ethical to put in a lot of
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  this stuff? And I'm like, well, you know, at
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  the end of the day, they knew that she was not a private
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  citizen, and her freedoms and her rights were given an up.
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  And they're told every 15 minutes that they're being
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  recorded. Yeah, so I don't.
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  I don't feel the slightest bit bad.
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  I mean, I'm, I'm not going to quit, but I'm having phone sex,
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  sex out on my channel. Yeah, I don't put on the
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  slightest bit bad for anything that we put out about these two
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  after I've heard the way that they've talked about.
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  And I have my suspicions about what Gypsy would have said on
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  that call to Ryan had she not been so square, in fact, that he
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  is being incarcerated and being imported, A monitored murder.
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  I don't think a lot of people are like, oh, and I'm so sorry
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  about the echo, y'all. I literally.
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  No echo, you're good. Well, they're saying in the chat
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  there's a bad echo. Oh, OK, I can't hear it.
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  My name. Go.
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  Oh, you do. Hang.
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  On a second. But I agree with what Millie's
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  saying. Who knows what would have really
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  been said. And there's one call that we
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  might end up getting into, but I think it's kind of like the
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  phone call. And one of the things that Gypsy
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  says almost implies to me, she says something about how, like,
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  you don't know everything I've done, Ryan.
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  And it was right after they had just talked about some things
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  had to do with children. She's like, it might make you
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  think differently of me. And I'm not trying to accuse her
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  of anything. Yeah, but sure what where that
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  one is or which one that is? We'll see if we can find it.
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  I'll look on my phone or something and see if I can find
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  something. But just hearing that alone
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  freaked me out a little bit cuz I'm like, what do you mean he
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  doesn't know? It's just a weird spot for her
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  to mention that, you know? Right.
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  Yeah, no, I agree. Just so you guys are aware, we
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  may be live on TikTok. I'm not sure we were having
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  issues with our connection to TikTok.
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  Joel said that we were. OK, we are.
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  Live, I just read. The OK sorry I wasn't paying
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  attention. I'm assuming that's Joel.
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  It says Teh. I don't know who Teh is.
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  Yeah, yeah, tech. It's supposed to be tech.
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  Yeah. So OK, so we are we are live on
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  TikTok. So please, if you do, if you do
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  TikTok, please go on there and share it out.
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  It's MB radio. And so that's what it's under,
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  military broadcast radio radio or MB radio.
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  OK, so Millie will join us again.
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  I am very sure of that. But like she told everybody, she
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  is in a hotel. So there may be some issues
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  right now. OK, so let me find that.
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  You did wonderful. OK, let me go to the.
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  Could you hear that, Nancy? Yes, OK.
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  And I haven't really been listening to too much of this.
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  I've listened to maybe 5 or 6 phone calls.
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  I've been working. I've been working, but also
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  like, it's just like not. I don't know a lot of it's just
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  too much, too much. But it's a lot for sure, yeah.
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  It really is. And trying to put it on the
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  Google Drive, like I can't listen to everything.
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  So I just go into the middle and make sure that it's Gypsy and
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  somebody else having a conversation, and then I plop it
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  onto the Google Drive. But at least on the channel,
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  we're going to try and be a little bit more.
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  Yes, and some things have slipped and I've caught them
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  eventually. But you know, this is a lot of
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  stuff that I'm trying to get through and sort and so I don't
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  know. We'll see.
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  OK so this is my echo. Gone.
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  Sorry to interrupt. I don't hear it.
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  I don't know if they can hear it.
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  Sounds good. Oh, it sounds good to you,
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  Nancy. OK, awesome.
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  Well, you guys never heard it. I thought Nancy did.
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  Oh gotcha, my bad. Cool, you sound perfect.
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  Thank you, Cherokee girl. Thank you.
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  Cherokee girl, we appreciate you always.
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  And I hope you're doing well, by the way.
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  Absolutely. OK.
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  She always seems to ask or press for men's special fetish
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  interests because she wants to exploit them, because somehow
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  she knows how strong of a pull those things can have.
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  Yeah, I agree with that. And and just pay attention to
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  the patterns. There's.
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  She's got so many patterns, you know.
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  Oh, thank you very much, Gen. V Thank you very much.
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  And if you are on TikTok and you are giving gifts, all of that
• 21:23
  money will go directly to MBR. So please give away.
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  What is it under in the Google Drive?
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  It is under prison calls. OK.
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  Hello. Hey.
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  Hey. So how was it?
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  It was awesome. Good.
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  It was really good. Good.
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  Really, really good. I'm good, I'm happy.
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  Yeah. Good.
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  You did wonderful. I was so nervous.
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  You did good, I. Was so.
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  Nervous. I mean they Aaron.
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  Aaron did a top notch job. Yeah, she had some really good
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  questions and everything. I know I got like emotional and
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  nervous during it and I'm like. Yeah, I could tell.
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  Yeah, some of the questions were hard because, I mean, I had
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  just, you know, I took my plea and everything, but I did my
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  best. You did good.
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  You did really, really good. I mean, you know, it starts off
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  like with your interview when you getting interrogated and you
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  know, Wisconsin and everything and you know, and you know, your
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  dad talks and, you know, Bobby talked, I talked, you talked and
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  you know, they show some other, you know, just footage.
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  And then Claude talks and Laura talks and they show a lot of
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  footage and then you talk and you know, and everything.
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  They showed Nick's interrogation to and him.
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  They also have on it the cops talking to his parents and
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  everything. And yeah, I never saw.
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  His interrogation videos. So I'm like, I don't know what
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  he said. Like Mike had showed me a little
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  bit like the important parts of the transcript, but I didn't
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  actually. Yeah.
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  They didn't. Show like nothing that could do
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  any damage. Right, they didn't show the full
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  video of me because I slept a lot.
• 24:30
  Or did they just show? No, no.
• 24:32
  They showed you, you know, they, you talk and they, they would
• 24:36
  show you and you would be, you know, standing up.
• 24:39
  And then they showed you and you were going on that you were
• 24:42
  getting real light on the sofa, you know?
• 24:45
  Yeah. And stuff like that.
• 24:47
  You can. Be in the hospital and just
• 24:49
  giving me a dose of Keppra. So I was that medicine makes me
• 24:52
  sleepy. So I'm like, I took a nap and I
• 24:55
  think I took like a four hour nap or something.
• 24:57
  I'm like, I hope they don't show everything.
• 25:00
  Like I slept a lot. No, yeah, I mean that and
• 25:04
  Michelle's in it too, you know, it was really well.
• 25:08
  Put together, oh, that's wonderful, that it's all good.
• 25:14
  Everything sounds like I was nervous.
• 25:17
  So you want to Yeah. I was like, I want to wash your
• 25:20
  back. I.
• 25:22
  Like, Oh, yeah, I like to give you all time to, you know, get
• 25:24
  back to the hotel, fill in. And oh, we're, we're not at the
• 25:27
  hotel yet where we stopped and ate.
• 25:31
  We're outside OK, at a they have a bunch of food trucks and
• 25:36
  they're slow. Cool.
• 25:40
  Bobby first. Oh, is.
• 25:42
  Bobby there. Uh huh.
• 25:44
  Oh, that's. Great, I didn't know if he went
• 25:47
  or not. Yeah, so which one you want to
• 25:51
  talk to 1st? Can we stop there for a second?
• 25:54
  Yes. Which one you want to talk to
• 25:57
  1st? You want to talk to that?
• 26:00
  OK. So break it down, you know, to
• 26:02
  where we have the cast of characters here.
• 26:05
  And. And so Gypsy's talking about
• 26:08
  never seeing Nixon interrogation video, you know, the one where
• 26:11
  he's super worried about her and wondering if she's OK and
• 26:15
  wanting them to get her, you know, help.
• 26:18
  Is it that one that she's wondering about because she
• 26:21
  wasn't doing that on her side and then talking about her
• 26:26
  interrogation video because she knows how she acted, especially
• 26:31
  to that officer about Disney and all the fun stuff.
• 26:34
  And she's like, oh, I, I hope they didn't show everything.
• 26:38
  She said that like I was asleep for four hours because they gave
• 26:41
  me this medicine, but I hope they don't show everything.
• 26:44
  During her interrogation. Yeah.
• 26:46
  So I had to. I got a phone call, so I got up.
• 26:49
  It's OK. Yeah, we're talking about the
• 26:51
  HBO premiere that they were at. And then she's quizzing Christy
• 26:54
  about what was in the show and all of this stuff, and she's
• 26:58
  like, what about my interrogation video?
• 27:00
  I hope they don't show everything, talking about her
• 27:02
  sleeping and stuff like that, but it's not what she meant.
• 27:07
  And then she's like, oh, that's wonderful, that Christy's just
• 27:10
  really, you know, pumping it up. But.
• 27:14
  She was given Keppra, which by the way, supposedly part of the
• 27:19
  medical abuse was she was taking Keppra the whole time.
• 27:22
  But why would it make her that sleepy after taking it for so
• 27:26
  long? I don't know.
• 27:28
  I mean, it does have some side effects after taking it for so
• 27:31
  long, but to knock you out for four hours like that, I don't
• 27:35
  know, after you've just been arrested for murder.
• 27:39
  Yeah, I can't believe what she's thinking right now because she
• 27:41
  doesn't know what's in this show, right?
• 27:43
  They're seeing the premiere. And so she she knows.
• 27:47
  She knows the secret she has, and she doesn't know if anybody
• 27:50
  went to go find them. So thank you.
• 27:53
  Frodo. Thank you.
• 27:53
  Frodo. I can't believe you just donated
• 27:55
  to yourself, Amber. No, you.
• 27:59
  I know I'm crazy. And it's crazy you could do that
• 28:03
  without even taking your. Hand off the mouse, sorry y'all.
• 28:09
  My bad. OK.
• 28:13
  Was there anything else? I think we're good.
• 28:15
  We're heading to Broad now. I think we're in her dad.
• 28:18
  OK. Oh, Millie's covered by the
• 28:22
  banner. Whenever you press play, take it
• 28:24
  off. OK, I will.
• 28:25
  Sorry, somebody said that. Or Bobby first it.
• 28:28
  Doesn't matter. OK, we want to.
• 28:33
  Talk to her for. Next.
• 28:37
  Hey, Boo. So I heard.
• 28:41
  I heard that it was good. I'm doing good.
• 28:43
  I'm. I'm settled in a lot better.
• 28:45
  I adapted very better than I expected in my new house.
• 28:50
  So yeah, good. I think the only stuffy part was
• 28:56
  that whenever they move me, they go to the store on Thursday and
• 29:01
  I didn't get to go with my house on Tuesday.
• 29:05
  And so they move me and they're like, oh, you can't go this
• 29:07
  week. So I'm like, really?
• 29:09
  That sucks. Oh, oh, so you gotta wait till
• 29:12
  next Tuesday now. Next Thursday.
• 29:15
  Oh, oh, it's next Thursday. OK, but that's the only stuffy
• 29:19
  part. But other than that,
• 29:20
  everything's cool. Oh, that's good.
• 29:23
  Good. I'm glad you're happy there.
• 29:24
  Yeah. So Mom told me that the film was
• 29:27
  good. Yeah.
• 29:29
  It was very good. Very good.
• 29:31
  Very well done. Good.
• 29:31
  It was good. There wasn't too many surprises.
• 29:38
  There was a few surprises. That they threw.
• 29:40
  Out there, but nothing, nothing I couldn't handle or anybody you
• 29:44
  know, right. Didn't expect to have a surprise
• 29:47
  here, there. So right.
• 29:48
  Yeah, they're happy what they did.
• 29:50
  Yeah. I tried to tell mom like in case
• 29:54
  anything was the pop up that y'all didn't know.
• 29:56
  You know, I'm was trying to remember everything and I'm like
• 30:00
  there might be some stuff y'all didn't know or you know, you
• 30:03
  might know it all. So I don't know.
• 30:05
  Yeah, no, that's all good. It's all good.
• 30:09
  Well, thanks for calling Bobby here.
• 30:12
  We just walking back to the truck.
• 30:14
  We stopped at the little food court to eat and get some rest
• 30:17
  tonight and go do the big premiere tomorrow.
• 30:20
  I guess I've never done one like that before.
• 30:27
  No. Well, it'll be fine.
• 30:28
  Don't worry about it. Yeah.
• 30:33
  So. OK.
• 30:34
  Well, we got some other stuff we need to talk to you about, but
• 30:38
  we'll call. Call us back tomorrow night.
• 30:41
  OK. OK.
• 30:44
  So I'm gonna let you talk about it.
• 30:46
  And you have a good night. And thanks for calling.
• 30:49
  Thank you, too. Talk to you later.
• 30:51
  Love you. OK.
• 30:53
  Can we break there? Yep, exactly.
• 30:56
  Thanks for calling you're. Right, it doesn't sound like it
• 31:00
  was to talk to her very long at all.
• 31:02
  He really not interested in having this conversation but.
• 31:07
  Rod kind of seems like a man of few words.
• 31:11
  I mean I'm not saying that he never yaps or anything like that
• 31:14
  on. The show He seems to have a lot
• 31:16
  of wisdom that he likes to impart.
• 31:18
  That's like that's like a persona he's trying to put on,
• 31:21
  but he's I mean, he literally works on a boat where he like
• 31:24
  goes out and doesn't talk to anybody, but who's in that
• 31:26
  vicinity for like months on end, except for maybe like, you know,
• 31:29
  the occasional messenger bitch you can get, you know, I.
• 31:32
  Grew up with a lot of those guys.
• 31:33
  They didn't work on fishing boats, but they worked on the
• 31:36
  oil rigs there you. Go.
• 31:39
  When she says I moved into my own house, you know, even that
• 31:43
  language is no lessons learned. You know, to me, it's just as is
• 31:49
  where I'm going to live for a few years and then I'm going to
• 31:51
  get out anything. I didn't know what was going to
• 31:55
  pop up, if there was anything that you didn't know.
• 31:59
  She's really about what's being unveiled.
• 32:03
  But our conversation with Christy seemed to clear that.
• 32:07
  Yeah, for. Sure, someone in my chat the
• 32:10
  other day in a comment, I can't remember who it was.
• 32:13
  I'd love to give them credit because this is a good question.
• 32:17
  Not really good, but did you y'all saw the video I put out
• 32:21
  about the matching tattoos that Brian and Gypsy were planning to
• 32:25
  get? Yes, unfortunately.
• 32:28
  Yeah, for anyone in the chat who doesn't know, Gypsy said told
• 32:33
  Brian Golden on a phone call that she was going to get a
• 32:37
  heart padlock tattooed on her Hoo ha and she said the right
• 32:43
  words. By the way, I'm using these
• 32:44
  words because I know they're on tick.
• 32:45
  They're streaming this on TikTok and stuff too, and I don't want
• 32:48
  them to get takedown. Thank you.
• 32:50
  Yeah, she was going to get a padlock heart tattoo on her.
• 32:52
  Hoo ha. And Ryan was going to get the
• 32:55
  key and someone did my chat said Oh no, was she going to cousin
• 33:03
  Bobby for that? Children.
• 33:09
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:10
  And it's like, why don't you tell Brian that anyway?
• 33:12
  Because it's like she totally wasn't over Brian, I'm sure.
• 33:16
  They were weird. Yeah.
• 33:20
  I'll. Tell you something privately
• 33:23
  unrelated, unrelated. No, no, no, no, no.
• 33:26
  Nothing to do with the anyway. That makes the sound way worse
• 33:28
  than it is. Makes the sound way worse than
• 33:30
  it is. I was going to say, I understand
• 33:32
  sometimes you could have somebody that maybe it was
• 33:34
  something at one point, maybe they're not.
• 33:36
  Maybe sometimes you have inappropriate conversations
• 33:38
  afterwards, but it's not really related anyway.
• 33:41
  Krung Fu Panda in the chat said, thinking about any poor tattoo
• 33:45
  artist listening to this request.
• 33:49
  Right. I So as a teenager I grew up in
• 33:56
  a military town and there was a woman who did piercings and hold
• 34:02
  on. Sorry, I just saw that.
• 34:06
  So I'm assuming that means that Little Frodo talked to Brian at
• 34:09
  some point, which is crazy. Because.
• 34:11
  Not saying that it's your fault for talking to him, but it turns
• 34:14
  out that he ended up being a total P3DO.
• 34:16
  And we'll get into that later. But yeah.
• 34:19
  Brian came in my comments on YouTube whenever I read his
• 34:23
  emails and then he started going nuts in the comments on Reddit.
• 34:28
  He was never he never dated her. He never dated her.
• 34:31
  There you go. What were you saying about some
• 34:33
  of tattoo artists in Lawton? Oh, she was a piercing lady.
• 34:36
  So she just had all kinds of requests for different piercings
• 34:40
  and stuff like that. And I remember being in her
• 34:42
  studio getting requests for piercings downstairs all the
• 34:47
  time. And so that was very interesting
• 34:49
  as as a teenager, like 17, I was watching people get pierced.
• 34:54
  I remember the age of 16, I was trying to start a band and so I
• 34:58
  hung out with this guy and I kind of had a crush on him, but
• 35:01
  not really. Anyway, his mom was like super
• 35:04
  trying to push something on us. It was.
• 35:06
  Crazy, I remember. That super or his stepmom, I'm
• 35:09
  sorry, it was super trying to push something on us and she
• 35:12
  like made us do things that I had never even like whatever.
• 35:14
  And not anything inappropriate, but she would like to make us
• 35:17
  like she would go. She would like, push me onto the
• 35:19
  bed and put me on the bed and then she'd close the door and
• 35:22
  like, shit like that. Anyway.
• 35:23
  Doesn't matter. Regardless, the reason why I
• 35:25
  bring it up is because she did piercings and she's like, oh,
• 35:28
  she's like, I'll Pierce, you're up top anyway.
• 35:31
  She's like, I'll Pierce, you're up top.
• 35:32
  We don't have to tell your parents.
• 35:33
  And it was like, oh, no, it's all good.
• 35:36
  It's all good. And she's like, oh, well, you
• 35:38
  know, I'll show you my book full of piercings.
• 35:40
  There's all kinds of piercings in there.
• 35:42
  I'm like, I don't want to see all that.
• 35:44
  She's like, oh, I'm sure you get pictures like that all the time.
• 35:46
  You're so pretty. I'm like, not really, and I
• 35:49
  don't want to see her people like that.
• 35:51
  No thanks. She wouldn't have liked that
• 35:53
  smoke had she pierced you as a teenager.
• 35:55
  You would have never known. Oh, I would have known.
• 36:01
  But no, that didn't happen. Especially as as noticeable as
• 36:05
  it is anyway. Anyways, anybody want to point
• 36:12
  anything else out? I'm good.
• 36:16
  No, sorry, just yaps too much. Sorry, here we go.
• 36:20
  Hey, how? Have you been?
• 36:23
  How are you? I'm doing good.
• 36:27
  That's awesome. That's good.
• 36:28
  Yeah, I've been doing really good.
• 36:29
  I've been like crazy busy fixing the move, shops and stuff.
• 36:33
  Yeah. I'm going to be in my final
• 36:36
  location. By the time you get out and get
• 36:38
  me tattoo. I will be in my final, my final
• 36:41
  spot, my last move. Good, good.
• 36:44
  I know I've been telling some people that, you know, my cousin
• 36:48
  is a professional tattoo artist. And there's, like, a lot of
• 36:51
  people that want to get work done from you.
• 36:54
  So I'm like, I point them all in your direction.
• 36:58
  Right on 27 years. Yeah.
• 37:02
  Yeah. It's been a long time.
• 37:04
  Yeah, but you're a great artist, so I, you know, I can't the
• 37:09
  drawing that you had sent of the tattoos that I want to get, I
• 37:14
  sent them back to mom and she's going to keep the the catches
• 37:17
  until I get out. And then I'm going to I'm going
• 37:20
  to get some done from you. Yeah.
• 37:23
  Yeah, I I got sale over here. She's come with us.
• 37:29
  She's she, she told me to tell you hi.
• 37:30
  She's real nervous, you know, like the the sheep that she told
• 37:33
  me to tell you hi. She's 12 right now.
• 37:35
  I'll tell her I said hi. She says hi.
• 37:42
  Yeah, yeah. We're checking out Austin.
• 37:45
  Austin's such a awesome thing. I guess being an artist, you
• 37:49
  know, it's full of all kinds of it's just, I think it's like a a
• 37:53
  ton of artists are just, I don't know, just kind of hang out in
• 37:57
  this place. A bunch of hippies too.
• 37:59
  It's funny, but they make some the coolest stuff.
• 38:02
  So you get some crazy ideas and do some audio.
• 38:04
  Cool. You know me.
• 38:08
  Like, it's a new thing. It's big.
• 38:11
  It's, you know, exciting. I'm like, I've never been to a
• 38:14
  premiere of any kind, but it looks and sounds really cool.
• 38:20
  Yeah. Myself, I've never been to one.
• 38:22
  I have no idea what to expect. They always keep on asking me
• 38:24
  questions, like about, you know, what it's going to do.
• 38:26
  What is this? What is that?
• 38:28
  But I don't know. But I don't know.
• 38:29
  I don't know any more than you do about it.
• 38:30
  It's my first home, Right? It's like, whoa, hold on with
• 38:34
  the question. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Right on.
• 38:38
  I had saw when I was still in county, I had saw the the
• 38:43
  article that had came out in the paper.
• 38:45
  I guess you had did like an interview or whatever and I'm
• 38:49
  in. I was like, I had put your phone
• 38:52
  number in my Bible and your answer.
• 38:55
  Oh yeah. I had sent that all home.
• 38:57
  So I'm like, I couldn't I don't have it right now, but I want to
• 39:01
  say thank you. Oh, OK, OK.
• 39:02
  I went to tell you. Thank you so much for, you know,
• 39:05
  doing such a good article. I read it.
• 39:08
  It was wonderful. And I love you too.
• 39:10
  Yeah, I I love you too. I couldn't.
• 39:13
  I couldn't like it. It kept on going.
• 39:15
  I was like, the way that people were acting at the beginning,
• 39:18
  like it was such a shock. And Oh my God, if she kill her
• 39:22
  mother for like no reason, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a
• 39:25
  minute. And I, I had to set him
• 39:27
  straight. I was like this, that woman was,
• 39:30
  was so mean. You don't even know the half of
• 39:32
  it, you know, So I started kind of venting through the media and
• 39:36
  telling him my side of the story, which is kind of like
• 39:38
  speaking to you in a sense, you know what I'm saying?
• 39:40
  Because I mean, you were in a bad position of like, you're not
• 39:44
  going to listen to you almost, you know, so they needed to hear
• 39:47
  it from the outside, from the family, you know, So I wasn't
• 39:50
  going to let him just run through you like that.
• 39:52
  No way, no way. I appreciate it with all of my
• 39:55
  heart. You know, it's it's so nice
• 39:57
  that, you know, I know that dad and mom picks up for me, but
• 40:01
  it's good to have someone on, you know, mom's side of the
• 40:04
  family that picks up for me too, because people ask me that all
• 40:07
  the time, you know, does your mom's side, you know, did they
• 40:10
  have handed you? Are they mad at you, blah, blah,
• 40:12
  blah. And I'm like, no, I no way.
• 40:14
  You know, good family that are supportive and loving of me.
• 40:19
  Oh, yeah, yeah. It's just so awesome to know
• 40:22
  that you finally made it to that that that point.
• 40:25
  And you're on, you're on the down, you're on the down slope
• 40:28
  now, you know, so pretty sure we'll see you.
• 40:30
  You know, that's going to be awesome, right?
• 40:31
  And I mean, get be walking free. I like out out of that that.
• 40:36
  Yeah, complete prison, the prison you're in, your mom and
• 40:40
  the prison you're in now, you know, just be free with all
• 40:42
  that. It's going to be awesome to see
• 40:43
  you hanging out. I know I there's so much that I
• 40:46
  can't way to do, but honestly in here, it's, it's not what you
• 40:52
  think. It's not as bad as you would
• 40:54
  think, you know, I mean, you watch all these TV programs like
• 40:57
  60 days in or something like that.
• 40:59
  And that's what Christy was telling me.
• 41:01
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:02
  They portrayed as something to be, you know, a very cold place
• 41:05
  with iron bars and stuff like that.
• 41:07
  And they don't have that here. So I mean, and the, the the
• 41:11
  guards are nice, you know, so I mean, it's, it's not bad at all.
• 41:16
  And we have free rain. We get to go outside anytime we
• 41:19
  want. We got keys, car rooms.
• 41:23
  No, so, but it's like, it's like, it's like a big hotel stay
• 41:26
  in for a long period, you know, college because I'm in school.
• 41:31
  They put me in school and I'm doing.
• 41:33
  That's awesome. That's awesome too.
• 41:34
  Yeah. Because you only had like second
• 41:36
  grade education, right? Right.
• 41:39
  Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm getting into the
• 41:42
  math. That's where I'm getting into
• 41:43
  the algebra and stuff. And I'm like, that's oh, that's
• 41:46
  a good stuff. Yeah, I had to 1st learn not
• 41:50
  addition. I knew addition and subtraction.
• 41:52
  I didn't know multiple multiplication and division.
• 41:56
  So it's still working. Oh, right on.
• 41:58
  I'm still working on that. I just got to master it and then
• 42:00
  I can, you know, master the algebra part.
• 42:04
  But I'm, I'm bringing up my scores.
• 42:06
  I'm doing really good in school. So I'm doing great.
• 42:12
  That's good. That's good.
• 42:14
  It's so good to hear you. It's so good to hear you.
• 42:17
  I'm actually like progressing and stuff.
• 42:19
  It's such a good thing. Yeah.
• 42:21
  You too. Well, I'm going to let y'all go
• 42:24
  because I'm going to go drink some coffee.
• 42:27
  But I love. Yeah.
• 42:27
  Go ahead. Y'all have so much fun.
• 42:30
  Take lots of pictures. And if y'all see any celebrities
• 42:34
  get their autographs. All right.
• 42:37
  Good deal. All right.
• 42:38
  Love you. Take care.
• 42:40
  That's kind of embarrassing. Low key get their autograph.
• 42:43
  Yeah, it just shows, you know, that that's where her mind.
• 42:48
  Is. At all the time.
• 42:50
  All the time. She's got FOMO, man.
• 42:52
  She's got FOMO at her premiere. So I'm confused, is this like,
• 42:56
  was this like a trailer premiere and then the big ones the next
• 42:58
  night or no, you know? I'm not sure because there's
• 43:03
  another one where Rod's talking about it being in the big city
• 43:08
  and it sounds like it's like in New York maybe and he.
• 43:13
  Wasn't in LA. I don't know.
• 43:15
  I, I don't know, honestly, I don't know if it was in New York
• 43:18
  or LA, but he was talking about being in the big city and having
• 43:21
  to take cabs from one place to another.
• 43:24
  And so he didn't really enjoy all that.
• 43:27
  So he didn't go out and explore like he could have, So and he
• 43:34
  also talked about how there were some premieres on one end of
• 43:41
  town and there were other premier premieres like at
• 43:45
  another section of town. So it sounds like it was like a
• 43:49
  Film Festival. OK.
• 43:52
  That's what I'm thinking it was. People who just come into the
• 43:56
  chat a little bit late have been asking who that was.
• 43:58
  That was Cousin Bobby, the tattoo artist.
• 44:01
  At the end, yeah, at the end. And at the beginning it was Rod.
• 44:07
  And Christy? Yeah, so she's talking to Bobby
• 44:10
  about prison not being so bad. It's not a cold place with bars.
• 44:13
  Got guards. The guards are nice.
• 44:16
  Free reign. Got keys to my room.
• 44:20
  So yeah, go ahead. It's always interesting,
• 44:22
  interesting for me to hear her talk about school because I did
• 44:27
  interview the neighbor Dominique, right?
• 44:30
  And she was telling me in the episode main character that I
• 44:33
  did on the Toll podcast how they would share home school
• 44:37
  resources. And so Dominique and DD, that's
• 44:40
  how they really got to know each other is because they would
• 44:43
  share these resources back and forth.
• 44:46
  And that she did find it curious that she felt Gypsy was a little
• 44:51
  older and should be learning different things than her son.
• 44:54
  But, you know, because everybody perceived her as mentally
• 44:57
  handicapped, you know, that could fit.
• 45:00
  But, you know, she could have not been doing anything once she
• 45:03
  got the resources. I understand that.
• 45:05
  But it was a topic of conversation, how Dominique
• 45:08
  would go down there and they would share back and forth these
• 45:10
  resources for school. Yeah, I always heard talk about
• 45:14
  their home schooling, but you know, we heard talk about all
• 45:17
  kinds of craziness that didn't happen.
• 45:19
  So who? Knows, right?
• 45:22
  Right. Yeah.
• 45:22
  And I mean, everybody's different in their
• 45:24
  homeschooling, you know, so where one person will go to the,
• 45:31
  you know, to the furthest degree, you know, with all of
• 45:36
  the charts on the walls and the, you know, there's all kinds of
• 45:40
  things you can do to make a whole classroom and all of that
• 45:43
  stuff. And then.
• 45:45
  We just went to Universal a bunch.
• 45:50
  We also spent a lot of time in the library at the college too.
• 45:54
  Where I would be like times tables on my own even though I
• 45:57
  was in 7th grade. You know you complain a lot, but
• 46:00
  you know what? You graduated, Dang it.
• 46:02
  I did graduate graduate. I did find it curious.
• 46:06
  Go ahead. I did find it curious, too, that
• 46:10
  Bobby's, you know, against Dee Dee doesn't like her.
• 46:15
  And we know that Dee Dee had a different side too, you know,
• 46:18
  through some of those reports and stuff.
• 46:21
  So I just wonder if she didn't like him and that's how she
• 46:25
  treated people she didn't like, you know, because here in
• 46:27
  Springfield, she was always nice and a butterfly socially, you
• 46:30
  know, jumping around and everything.
• 46:31
  But if she didn't like Bobby, that other side definitely could
• 46:34
  have shown and that could have been his experience with her.
• 46:38
  Nancy, how much this isn't really related to the phone call
• 46:41
  that we just went over, but how much of A celebrity was she in
• 46:45
  Springfield? Was it just somebody like, yeah,
• 46:47
  we kind of know, or was it like a big thing?
• 46:49
  Because I feel like it was relevant and something that
• 46:52
  Millennial and I were talking about on our last stream
• 46:55
  together last week. I just can't remember what it
• 46:57
  was, but I remember we were talking a little bit about the
• 47:00
  celebrity status and I'm like, I'm pretty sure Nancy didn't
• 47:03
  really. I think it was that big.
• 47:07
  I didn't, I think that it was just if you encountered her, you
• 47:11
  didn't forget her, right. And I just think that's what it
• 47:14
  was. I I mean, I knew her because of
• 47:17
  the station and they come by and get tickets at the tent and
• 47:20
  stuff like that. But you know, do I remember
• 47:23
  seeing her all over the news and stuff like that?
• 47:25
  I don't I don't I the Habitat for Humanity story.
• 47:30
  If I thought that probably could have put that somewhere in my
• 47:33
  brain. But you know, I didn't look at
• 47:35
  her and think, oh, there she is. But I know she was, you know,
• 47:38
  like queen, queen of the fair for a day and stuff like that.
• 47:41
  So there would have been big exposure moments with
• 47:44
  Springfield area. But I just think that they're
• 47:47
  very memorable and it again, if you ran into them and forget
• 47:51
  them. That and like like Nancy said,
• 47:54
  there were occasional big exposure moments.
• 47:56
  Obviously, she wasn't a celeb celebrity in the sense of what
• 47:58
  we think of celebrities. Springfield's not even really
• 48:01
  that kind of place, you know? But she was, she would, in
• 48:08
  addition to those big moments here and there, Dee Dee did so
• 48:12
  much on social media and fundraisers and stuff that once
• 48:16
  you saw her in a news thing or something like that, like Nancy
• 48:19
  said, you'd really don't forget her.
• 48:21
  Like it's like, what am I seeing?
• 48:23
  And then on top of that, if you're on Facebook and you have
• 48:27
  any local friends, you would see their stuff shared quite a bit,
• 48:31
  people you share and trying to fundraise for them and stuff.
• 48:33
  So like, even though, you know, it's not like everybody, Oh my
• 48:37
  God, there's Gypsy and Dee Dee that you just felt like you knew
• 48:40
  who they were and what was going on and you saw them and things
• 48:43
  and stuff, you know? I get.
• 48:47
  No, go ahead. Another thing is, however it
• 48:51
  happened with Gypsy's education, listening to the prison calls,
• 48:55
  one thing I feel certain on is Gypsy has a better, more
• 49:00
  complete education than Ryan Anderson with his degree.
• 49:04
  What was his degree in like history or something?
• 49:06
  And then he did a teaching certificate.
• 49:09
  I feel like I remember hearing that, but I, I might not be
• 49:12
  right. But I, I do know he has a
• 49:14
  degree. He did, he was a teacher for
• 49:16
  what before got fired and, and one of the calls, they were
• 49:21
  talking about Ryan's diet. Gypsy wanted him to lose weight.
• 49:25
  And he, you know, and Ryan was like the manifest diet worked
• 49:30
  and it works fast. And Gypsy is like, well, you
• 49:33
  know, it's going to take some time.
• 49:35
  You know, we got to plan blah, blah, blah.
• 49:36
  And Ryan's like baby. The reason that word fast is in
• 49:39
  it manifest is because it works fast.
• 49:43
  He. Did.
• 49:44
  Gypsy actually explained to him the fast means fasting from
• 49:50
  Yeah, he's like I dropped 5 lbs the first week and.
• 49:53
  It's like I heard that. Oh my.
• 49:57
  Goodness. Yeah, I heard that.
• 49:59
  And then it was something like, oh, I, you know, I can't afford
• 50:01
  it right now. I can't just ask my parents for
• 50:04
  $300. And she's like, why not?
• 50:06
  Well, why can't you ask them for $300?
• 50:09
  I'm like, girl, I wish. She has no concept of money,
• 50:13
  but. Did.
• 50:14
  You hear what she said in that call, whatever they were talking
• 50:16
  about getting Wigovi, Olympic, whatever Ryan said he could
• 50:23
  afford the way Govi, but like they couldn't.
• 50:26
  He couldn't get it in that location or something like that.
• 50:28
  And he's like, and I can tell your Med and Gypsy was like,
• 50:31
  well, I'm frustrated at the situation.
• 50:33
  She's like Rachel's on it and started going through all these
• 50:35
  people and she said what what got me was she said and here's
• 50:39
  US money shooting out of our ass and we can't get access to it.
• 50:45
  She actually said that $1000. That's Gypsy.
• 50:53
  Exactly. Toxic Barbie says he will never
• 50:55
  be a teacher again after these calls, thankfully.
• 50:58
  Yeah. Whenever I was echoing and
• 51:00
  people couldn't understand me, I was talking about how with the
• 51:05
  Ryan call, you know, I haven't found the one where he actually
• 51:09
  told about the X thing. But with that one, what shocked
• 51:13
  me was that he straight up said that he was talking about that
• 51:18
  in the context of it being a turn on to get caught and that a
• 51:25
  kid walked in on the one time and he actually said, well, it
• 51:28
  doesn't. Have to be a kid.
• 51:30
  It could be Christie or anybody. And when he said it doesn't have
• 51:34
  to be a kid, that's when I knew. He absolutely said it was
• 51:40
  brought up kids, you know, and I, I really, I didn't expect it
• 51:44
  to be quite that blatant. Blatant.
• 51:47
  Yeah, I thought that he was going to say that it was an
• 51:51
  accident or something. And no, he he blatantly said
• 51:55
  he's turned on by the possibility of getting caught.
• 51:58
  But it doesn't have to be a kid. And I'm.
• 52:00
  Yeah, I. Yeah, that's super creepy.
• 52:05
  Yeah, I haven't had sympathy for Ryan Anderson for a very long
• 52:08
  time. I haven't either any any slight
• 52:12
  amount of whatever. He's just, I think, no, I think
• 52:16
  he's an actual problem. I would agree after listening to
• 52:20
  some of the shit that he says it's disgusting and the way that
• 52:23
  he even like the way he treats her and she treats him like shit
• 52:28
  too. Don't they both treat each
• 52:30
  other? They both.
• 52:30
  Treat each other like shit but it's like, you know, she's
• 52:33
  locked behind bars dude. You can go find some other lady
• 52:37
  anywhere. I mean, not anywhere, but you
• 52:40
  can go find somebody that's out and about.
• 52:42
  And she keeps telling him, you know, I'm not into you.
• 52:46
  I don't want this. I don't want that.
• 52:47
  And he just has to keep pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing.
• 52:49
  And she has like 50 other men that are on hold, which is
• 52:53
  disgusting that there's like 50 men or however many men.
• 52:57
  And it's because he look like her mom.
• 53:00
  Let's get down to the psyche of it.
• 53:04
  Maybe. He definitely did.
• 53:05
  But it's also, you know, the only person that was in
• 53:08
  Louisiana at the time. And he was from Louisiana.
• 53:11
  You know. So.
• 53:13
  The only one barking up a tree. I'm pretty sure there's a phone
• 53:17
  call of her talking to Brian and she says something about how you
• 53:25
  know, Ryan is looks good for her parole.
• 53:28
  He's close to Louisiana. She doesn't love him, but she
• 53:31
  needs him to think that she does kind of stuff.
• 53:36
  And none of that's gonna change the way that Ryan feels.
• 53:40
  You weren't there. You don't know what was real.
• 53:42
  And I do get it. You can.
• 53:45
  You can talk to somebody. You can feel a vibe.
• 53:48
  You know what I mean? You can.
• 53:49
  Feel like also if you don't know what that person's saying behind
• 53:52
  your back, but. Even so, he'll listen to all
• 53:54
  this shit and I'm like, Oh no, it's not true.
• 53:57
  You don't understand. You weren't there.
• 53:58
  That's what I'm saying. Like if anyone tells him, you
• 54:00
  don't get it, you don't get it. You weren't there.
• 54:03
  Exactly. Yeah, Yeah, you're right.
• 54:05
  Scrolled up now, but Lulu commented something I can't
• 54:10
  scroll up. Mothers of Explorers, what I
• 54:15
  thought was interesting. Oh, mothership.
• 54:17
  Yeah, Mothership Explorers. OK, hold on.
• 54:20
  Let me find her. I just saw it a second ago.
• 54:24
  OK, Ryan said that content creators are going to splice it
• 54:28
  to make it look like he was in class having phone sex.
• 54:31
  Tells me that he was in class having phone sex.
• 54:34
  Yeah, I mean, cuz I definitely am not gonna be doing that.
• 54:38
  That is not gonna be happening over here and I know millennials
• 54:41
  not gonna be doing that. If you find it on the Into the
• 54:44
  Weeds, the 1980 Millennial Commentates, or the Toll podcast
• 54:48
  channel, it will not be something spliced and diced.
• 54:51
  OK y'all, if you see it here it's legit.
• 54:55
  I agree. Unedited.
• 54:56
  Unless they're just taking out that little part that tells you
• 54:59
  welcome to the Chillicothe Correctional Facility.
• 55:02
  Well I muted Ryan using slurs like 4 times in one video
• 55:07
  because I was worried about the possibility of channel
• 55:10
  violation. Can you give me a ballpark of
• 55:13
  what slur that? Was I just saw somebody
• 55:15
  creeping, I think. You have like this little mirror
• 55:18
  behind you, I realize. He's getting caught at the
• 55:20
  mirrors. Yeah, you gotta keep on.
• 55:24
  He's here in a wave now, but he can't see what we can see.
• 55:27
  Which I have a genuine question here real quick.
• 55:30
  How did you get your husband to where he will be invested enough
• 55:36
  to comment and kind of somewhat understand what's going on?
• 55:39
  Because I try with people that I love dearly and they don't give
• 55:43
  AF, not even a little bit. He just say supports every
• 55:47
  single thing I do. That's all I can say.
• 55:50
  He's so sweet, awesome like that.
• 55:52
  Yeah, he is cool. I remember one time when we were
• 55:56
  hanging out or whatever, he was just sitting there and I was
• 55:58
  looking at him and he was just looking at you.
• 56:00
  And even though he wasn't participating in what we were
• 56:02
  participating and he was just happy to be there.
• 56:03
  I'm like, oh, that's so sweet. I love that it really.
• 56:06
  Is, yeah. He's just happening to be there.
• 56:08
  Men like him existed. I think that your husband and my
• 56:12
  husband are definitely 2 very unique characters.
• 56:22
  Thank you so much. Maleficent.
• 56:24
  Oh, thank you, Millennial. What are you doing?
• 56:28
  Yeah. I like this comment.
• 56:33
  Yeah, at least now jokes. To people.
• 56:37
  Yeah. What were you saying, Nancy?
• 56:40
  Trisha says at least now anybody he continues to come for what
• 56:44
  the stupid yo Mama jokes can come back at them with your step
• 56:47
  Mama. He's like kids.
• 56:53
  I thought this this will ruin me.
• 56:57
  And it's so crazy. He's like, you know, it doesn't
• 57:00
  have to be a kid. It can be your stepmom.
• 57:02
  Like it's cool. And he hasn't on his St.
• 57:06
  Yes and you know what I'm not trying to say like every single
• 57:09
  person that is a teacher has to be this pure innocent being free
• 57:14
  of all inappropriate. I just watched this video about
• 57:16
  that the other day and it's like teachers are constantly treated
• 57:19
  like they have to be like pure of heart and do nothing in their
• 57:22
  free time. But it's like things that he was
• 57:25
  going after a woman who looked like a child and was perceived
• 57:29
  to be intellectually and physically disabled and maybe
• 57:33
  intellectually and physically disabled, but who cares?
• 57:35
  That's not even relevant for the point that's being made.
• 57:38
  You know, it's like, what kind of a freaking weirdo are you
• 57:42
  saying this stuff? Wanting to do things in front of
• 57:44
  children, doing things in front of children.
• 57:46
  And that's just what you're saying on a recorded line.
• 57:49
  Yeah. And for anyone in the chat who
• 57:53
  might not know, I think most everybody knows by now the
• 57:55
  person that Gypsy called to talk to about it was Brian Golden,
• 58:01
  who was recently arrested for possession of C Sam.
• 58:06
  And we'll actually get into that because we have a video that has
• 58:13
  to do with Brian, even though he's a very small part of the
• 58:18
  actual call. But Ryan and Gypsy are talking
• 58:22
  about them. So actually, let's get into that
• 58:24
  1 I think. I wonder how I was just thinking
• 58:30
  how many men was she like in some sort of a situation ship
• 58:34
  with? Every time we think we've got a
• 58:36
  list and got them all but like, another one pops up somewhere in
• 58:39
  a new FOIA. No, one can't require.
• 58:41
  I mean you can. Now, I can't pretend like at one
• 58:44
  point in my life that is not now, OK, that at one point in my
• 58:47
  life I didn't have a roster. But it wasn't while I was in
• 58:49
  prison for the things I was in prison or that she was in prison
• 58:52
  for or the things. No, I'm just saying like I've
• 58:56
  talked to multiple guys at once. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:58
  And it's like, again, way, way, way back in the day.
• 59:01
  And it's just like, it's just crazy the amount of people.
• 59:03
  And she was like married for half this stuff, like, Oh my
• 59:06
  goodness. Or engaged to one man or
• 59:08
  another. She had two different
• 59:09
  engagements in prison. Yeah, it's a definite pattern
• 59:13
  with the fact that her Nick talked about children.
• 59:16
  Brian Golden was just arrested for children.
• 59:18
  She talked to him all the time. Brian Ryan said what we heard
• 59:22
  him say. It doesn't have to be a kid.
• 59:25
  Like, there's a definite pattern.
• 59:26
  And my personal feeling is that whenever she was asking him, you
• 59:31
  know, well, are you this? And, you know, it seemed like
• 59:35
  she was having a problem with it.
• 59:37
  I think Gypsy was just way more aware than Ryan that she's on a
• 59:41
  recorded line and already incarcerated, you know?
• 59:47
  Yeah, absolutely. And again, remember y'all,
• 59:50
  they've been telling you every 15 minutes, hey guys, this is
• 59:54
  recorded. Morning.
• 59:56
  No. And I'm very, I'm very mindful
• 1:00:00
  of that when I talk to my cousin on the recorded line at
• 1:00:04
  Chillicothe. So like sometimes I'll even say,
• 1:00:07
  hey, you guys who are listening to me, you know, I will, I will
• 1:00:14
  say that kind of stuff. I'll be like, OK, this is
• 1:00:17
  important, but I know you're recording me, but I have to say
• 1:00:20
  it, you know, something like. That listening to anything, half
• 1:00:23
  the time it's. Just you don't.
• 1:00:25
  Know and you know there's something.
• 1:00:27
  You don't know. You know, with Ryan, you know,
• 1:00:30
  half of it is, yeah, he was cool with being caught.
• 1:00:32
  But also it's like there's some things that some people might be
• 1:00:36
  OK with, like one or two people hearing.
• 1:00:39
  But knowing that the whole world is listening and that it's
• 1:00:42
  literally on like live streams, Tik Toks, things going viral.
• 1:00:46
  I mean, I'm sure that that would be a lot more stressful than
• 1:00:48
  just one or two people hearing, hearing what was going.
• 1:00:51
  On I'm not worried about Ryan, Ken or any of them.
• 1:00:55
  Don't. Care about me neither.
• 1:00:56
  Thank you, Jules. Thank you, Jules, but it also
• 1:00:58
  doesn't sound I haven't listened to too much.
• 1:01:01
  I would just want to make that very clear.
• 1:01:03
  But there was one thing that I listened to where Ken was like,
• 1:01:06
  oh, I just want to make sure nothing to do with children.
• 1:01:09
  You know, this is weird, you know, and never heard that it it
• 1:01:13
  was something, I don't remember what it was exactly, but he
• 1:01:16
  something had to do with children.
• 1:01:17
  He's like, Oh, no, I think it might have even been them
• 1:01:20
  talking about Ryan perhaps. And he's like, oh, that's weird,
• 1:01:24
  you know, that's weird. I don't like that.
• 1:01:26
  And you know I'm he still stayed with her after all the stuff
• 1:01:31
  came out. So he might still be a weirdo,
• 1:01:33
  but at least he wouldn't say it off the freaking line.
• 1:01:36
  Yeah, just thank you, Jules, for giving the memberships.
• 1:01:41
  But also I had thought about asking you to come on because
• 1:01:45
  you, you enjoy Gypsy content so much, but I don't have your
• 1:01:49
  e-mail address. So I've been hunting.
• 1:01:51
  I've been trying to hunt that down.
• 1:01:53
  I actually tried to find her e-mail address the other day.
• 1:01:55
  I wanted to ask her a question about the Idaho Fort.
• 1:01:58
  Really. And I with us.
• 1:02:02
  Yeah, I know. And I actually want her to come
• 1:02:04
  on the show to really break it down for us because there's so
• 1:02:08
  much. Just like in the Gypsy case.
• 1:02:11
  Yeah. And Idaho Fort isn't, I mean
• 1:02:15
  technically. Nervous about that one.
• 1:02:17
  Technically it's solved, you know, because Brian took a plea
• 1:02:20
  deal. But I mean, all of the evidence
• 1:02:23
  that's come out, Oh my goodness, it's so crazy.
• 1:02:27
  So I get. Yeah, about that one.
• 1:02:29
  But what I will say is that I don't know every little detail
• 1:02:34
  or whatever, but I remember that when we were at Crime Con, you
• 1:02:37
  and I sat in with the discussion with the Gunkalbas family.
• 1:02:42
  And I empathize with them. And I understand that if I went
• 1:02:45
  through something similar, I'd probably be very angry, very
• 1:02:49
  crude, not pull my punches at all.
• 1:02:53
  I would be too. But I don't like some of the
• 1:02:56
  laws they're trying to pass to keep it, to keep us from being
• 1:03:00
  able to get FOIA's about certain things or see certain things.
• 1:03:03
  And it's like, I think it's almost like a necessary evil to
• 1:03:06
  make sure that the law and to keep law enforcement in check.
• 1:03:10
  Because if we can't keep law enforcement in check, completely
• 1:03:12
  forget all these true kind of Christ true crime cases that
• 1:03:15
  we're invested in, it's just scary to not be able to keep
• 1:03:19
  them in check at all. I feel like sometimes in their
• 1:03:21
  pain, because of the pain, you know, that victims like that are
• 1:03:25
  in, they forget that freedom is fragile and very important.
• 1:03:30
  You know, freedom of the press is the only thing that has, I
• 1:03:35
  think, prevented as much corruption as could have been
• 1:03:39
  worse. You know what I mean?
• 1:03:40
  Like we have corruption without FOIA's and the freedom of the
• 1:03:43
  press. I just feel like it would.
• 1:03:45
  We'd already be so much in so much worse shape.
• 1:03:49
  My opinion. I totally agree we have to keep
• 1:03:53
  as free and as open as we possibly can.
• 1:03:56
  And again, I I empathize with them.
• 1:04:00
  Talking to Maggie, who is Brittany Phillips mother, she
• 1:04:04
  was Oh yeah, shaking it off Sorry.
• 1:04:06
  Anyway, Brittany was unfortunately, her life was
• 1:04:10
  taken back in 2004. Yes, but I'll.
• 1:04:12
  Be right back. I have to go to the restroom.
• 1:04:14
  Have a blast. But anyway, she, her and I were
• 1:04:19
  talking about they can call this family's session right after it
• 1:04:23
  was done and she's like, yeah, I don't expect them to be self
• 1:04:25
  aware quite yet. And I was like, I totally agree.
• 1:04:27
  I don't expect them to be self aware yet.
• 1:04:29
  It just, it just sucks that legally, you know what I mean?
• 1:04:35
  People are trying to push some kind of legal agenda.
• 1:04:37
  And it's like if we just didn't try to do that, I wouldn't have
• 1:04:39
  any issue with it. You know what I mean?
• 1:04:44
  So complicated. But anyway, let's see, are we?
• 1:04:50
  She looked like she was about to start a new call.
• 1:04:52
  Let's see which one. This is this one.
• 1:04:54
  She's an immature child. Oh, it's on the screen already.
• 1:04:59
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  now. Hey, hey, baby.
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  Hold on, I'm walking. Hold on.
• 1:05:49
  There's so many kids out. I'm trying to get into my car.
• 1:05:54
  You are fine. Yeah.
• 1:05:56
  So what you doing? How's your day?
• 1:05:57
  Good. I'm just cooking you something
• 1:06:00
  that you write down on the microwave.
• 1:06:02
  OK. They got us something to eat in
• 1:06:04
  the lobby for teachers today, which is very cool.
• 1:06:07
  Oh, that's nice. Yeah.
• 1:06:10
  They got us some salads and I think a sandwich maybe.
• 1:06:12
  I don't know. I haven't looked yet.
• 1:06:14
  But it's kind of cool that they bought us lunch.
• 1:06:18
  Oh, well, let me tell you what happened this morning.
• 1:06:23
  OK, All right, hold on. Let me get outside.
• 1:06:27
  All right, so the first person I see, and do you think, yeah,
• 1:06:34
  yeah, it's home wrecker, first person.
• 1:06:35
  I can walk in the pod and see. And she's like, give me a look.
• 1:06:40
  And I said look, I said, look, my wife was protecting me.
• 1:06:44
  I said she shouldn't have done it with Brian.
• 1:06:47
  You know, I was like, this dude is an idiot.
• 1:06:50
  Like, First off, he's an idiot. And then so like I was.
• 1:06:53
  So I told her my stand. I said, you know, you shouldn't
• 1:06:55
  have cussed me. I said, but I said, you know,
• 1:06:58
  let's just bury this and move on.
• 1:07:00
  I said, I love my wife for protecting me.
• 1:07:03
  I said, and I'm sorry if you feel attacked.
• 1:07:05
  I said I'm. Sorry if you feel attacked, I
• 1:07:06
  said. My wife, I said again, the
• 1:07:08
  e-mail wasn't terrible. I said she didn't flush you, she
• 1:07:12
  didn't threaten you. I said, so let's just move on.
• 1:07:16
  I said, look, I'm I'm over yesterday.
• 1:07:18
  I said. I understand if you're still
• 1:07:19
  mad, whatever. And she's like, I was shaking
• 1:07:23
  when I got it. Yes, what you thinking?
• 1:07:31
  I just wanted to remind the chat that Brian Golden, the one that
• 1:07:35
  she was having, e-mail people and threaten them for her.
• 1:07:39
  So not only was he recently arrested for C Sam, he was
• 1:07:43
  previously arrested for, I believe it was assault on his
• 1:07:49
  girlfriend. And they found he had a crap ton
• 1:07:53
  of homemade explosives. Yeah, that's why he that's why
• 1:07:56
  he was on Reddit trying to talk to all of us.
• 1:07:58
  Because I read an e-mail where he emailed Gypsy the 2014
• 1:08:04
  article about his arrest for explosives and everything.
• 1:08:09
  And whenever I read that in a video, he got mad.
• 1:08:13
  He come into my comments and then he went on Reddit trying to
• 1:08:15
  defend himself and it didn't work very well, obviously.
• 1:08:19
  And then he went quiet. And to be honest, I I did wonder
• 1:08:23
  a few times because he'd come up and more emails.
• 1:08:26
  I wondered why he wasn't back throwing a fit.
• 1:08:29
  And then somebody googled him one day and posted it on Reddit
• 1:08:32
  that he was arrested again for C Sam.
• 1:08:35
  And the reason why he was so mad at me, saying, why don't you
• 1:08:38
  just read out my full government address because it was included
• 1:08:42
  in the article that he emailed Gypsy.
• 1:08:45
  And that article was 2014. And I never thought that would
• 1:08:48
  still be his address. But he was living in his dad's
• 1:08:50
  basement then. And after he went in prison, he
• 1:08:53
  was back in his dad's basement when he got arrested again for
• 1:08:56
  the C sample. No.
• 1:08:58
  Yeah. And so this is the guy that
• 1:09:00
  Gypsy was having e-mail random people and threaten them.
• 1:09:03
  And at one point, she gave Brian Golden.
• 1:09:07
  Jeff's actual like Florida Jeff, his actual physical address.
• 1:09:13
  And Jeff, Jeff flipped out on her in the emails about it.
• 1:09:16
  He's like, for real. And that's why part of the
• 1:09:19
  reason why he dumped her. But yeah.
• 1:09:24
  No, and this is really concerning because you have a
• 1:09:26
  woman who was convicted of murder using.
• 1:09:31
  Yeah. Yeah, using somebody by proxy to
• 1:09:34
  do her bidding who had explosives and who is a, you
• 1:09:41
  know, pedophile. So, yeah, very scary.
• 1:09:46
  This is real. This is real stuff.
• 1:09:48
  And for them to Pooh, Pooh it like, it's just like, oh,
• 1:09:53
  they're picking on Gypsy. Oh, hell no.
• 1:09:55
  Gypsy did something really wrong here.
• 1:09:57
  And Gypsy should have gotten a little bit of extra time added
• 1:10:01
  to her sentence in my opinion. Yeah, and having that guy of all
• 1:10:05
  people, you know, a convicted explosives, homemade explosives,
• 1:10:09
  whatever, having him e-mail one of Ryan's Co workers and didn't
• 1:10:16
  Ryan just say in this call that he cussed at her after she said
• 1:10:20
  something about Gypsy? I think so, yeah.
• 1:10:22
  Yeah, he's like, I know what cussed at you.
• 1:10:23
  Whatever you know that's done. Yeah, so.
• 1:10:27
  This is the guy who is emailing Ryan at his job.
• 1:10:30
  A Co worker at his at Ryan's job.
• 1:10:35
  Brian Golden. The.
• 1:10:37
  Emailed Ryan's Co worker Miss Holmes, who?
• 1:10:41
  Because apparently Miss Holmes told Ryan, you realize that girl
• 1:10:45
  had someone killed, right? Or something like that when he
• 1:10:48
  mentioned Gypsy and Ryan went off about that's my wife, you
• 1:10:51
  don't, I'm not going to go there with my wife.
• 1:10:53
  And then Gypsy had Brian Golden e-mail that woman.
• 1:10:58
  I bet she was terrified if she's still paying any attention to
• 1:11:02
  this stuff. Yeah, like she's got to be more
• 1:11:07
  terrified if she ever realizes who exactly Gypsy had.
• 1:11:11
  E-mail her. Right, right.
• 1:11:14
  Yeah, and that's one of the reasons why I included it in
• 1:11:18
  this live stream, because I think it's extremely important
• 1:11:22
  for people to see the patterns of Gypsy.
• 1:11:26
  She once again found a man who was mentally unstable to go do
• 1:11:33
  her bidding for her and to intimidate somebody and to
• 1:11:37
  threaten them. Basically, she says she didn't
• 1:11:39
  threaten them or threaten her. And Ryan says that she didn't
• 1:11:43
  threaten her. But if I got an e-mail from a
• 1:11:46
  murderer in prison, I would be threatened.
• 1:11:52
  Convicted dude on other charges, Yeah.
• 1:11:55
  But she probably didn't even know that.
• 1:11:57
  So just the fact that she didn't even know that layer.
• 1:12:03
  And it might be this call, might be a different one.
• 1:12:05
  But like, he's just saying, you know, Gypsy, she doesn't know
• 1:12:08
  you. She doesn't know you.
• 1:12:09
  You know, it's like she doesn't have to know you.
• 1:12:12
  If a convicted murderer is being, even if it's not violent,
• 1:12:16
  just threatening you in any way, I'm sorry.
• 1:12:18
  I would be freaked out. He even said, oh, but you're not
• 1:12:22
  violent. And it's like.
• 1:12:24
  It's not violent. Have you ever heard anything
• 1:12:27
  just. Yeah.
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  Thank you, toxic Barbie. Thank you.
• 1:12:33
  Is the last person with any credibility.
• 1:12:35
  Yeah, no kidding. I.
• 1:12:38
  Haven't been able to find the clip but I'm pretty positive.
• 1:12:40
  Ken said on a TikTok live Keen that he was grateful for how
• 1:12:47
  Brian Golden had always been there for Gypsy.
• 1:12:51
  They were still talking about yeah.
• 1:12:53
  Yeah, no, I agree. Thank you again, toxic Barbie.
• 1:12:58
  No, I agree. You know, I mean he just he just
• 1:13:03
  dismisses this whole ordeal. I mean, the fact that she
• 1:13:07
  reached out to one of his Co workers would be, you know, a
• 1:13:12
  line crossed already. But then the fact that she used
• 1:13:16
  Brian to do it and intimidate her and who knows what she what
• 1:13:22
  they said to her. No telling.
• 1:13:25
  I wonder if somebody could request Brian Golden's prison
• 1:13:28
  emails and see if he's still in contact with Gypsy.
• 1:13:32
  He's on ankle monitoring right now.
• 1:13:33
  His trial is going on. He's not unless.
• 1:13:36
  Unless there's been an update that I haven't seen yet in.
• 1:13:39
  The last week I haven't. I haven't seen anything.
• 1:13:41
  I was just being no, there's a freaking fly.
• 1:13:44
  I know and I've tried to killed it.
• 1:13:46
  I've tried to kill it for two days and it is a it's Houdini
• 1:13:51
  and it escapes every time. Every time we're.
• 1:13:55
  Going to get it with the law and order gap.
• 1:13:57
  No, don't you dare. You get order and you get order.
• 1:14:02
  I'm sorry. OK, let's resume.
• 1:14:09
  She was said she was shaken. She's an amateur child and he
• 1:14:14
  can't even respond back to Brian.
• 1:14:16
  And the fact is, read my e-mail, read my e-mail to you, OK, You
• 1:14:22
  wrote you wrote an e-mail to me. OK.
• 1:14:26
  And here's The thing is she's like, I almost responded back to
• 1:14:30
  that guy, Brian. And then she's like, and then I
• 1:14:32
  got my boyfriend. I told my boyfriend he wanted to
• 1:14:35
  respond back. And he's like, I could have went
• 1:14:39
  to the principal this morning. I said for what I'm like for.
• 1:14:45
  What but Brian's What's like? Can you post?
• 1:14:48
  Yeah. Show to the principal for what
• 1:14:52
  Ryan's murderer wife is threatening an employee of the
• 1:14:55
  police What the. It doesn't have to be work
• 1:14:59
  related for it to be concerning. If you're being harassed by
• 1:15:02
  somebody, you need to make it known in a period.
• 1:15:05
  Well, and we're going to listen to another call here in a little
• 1:15:08
  bit that I haven't put on the channel yet, but I will.
• 1:15:13
  This girl has got some real issues and had somebody like her
• 1:15:19
  come at me just out of the blue, out of nowhere, writing me an
• 1:15:25
  e-mail and basically threatening me or trying to put me in my
• 1:15:29
  place. Oh yeah, I there'd have been a
• 1:15:32
  whole lot of stuff going on. Yeah, that.
• 1:15:36
  Happened to me. I would never respond or deal
• 1:15:38
  directly with her. I would put other things in
• 1:15:41
  motion legally and officially to make sure I was safe because I'm
• 1:15:45
  not dealing with a fucking murderer.
• 1:15:47
  You know, like. Exactly.
• 1:15:48
  And what was the initial e-mail to the Co worker?
• 1:15:53
  We don't know. It was completely outside of
• 1:15:55
  the, outside of the. So it's not available in any
• 1:16:01
  foyas. Thank you.
• 1:16:04
  You know what I've thought about doing?
• 1:16:05
  I don't know how to do this. Sometimes on live streams you'll
• 1:16:09
  hear people and every time they get a donation it like plays
• 1:16:11
  some kind of sound or something. Yeah, I got to figure out how to
• 1:16:13
  do. I thought about that clip of
• 1:16:15
  fancy going cha. Ching Ching, Ching Ching Ching
• 1:16:20
  Ching, Ching Ching. All right anyway, anyway, but I
• 1:16:27
  totally agree with you Millie, if somebody were to come at me,
• 1:16:31
  I would take all legal yeah avenues to keep that from being
• 1:16:35
  an issue but sometimes those things don't even do anything
• 1:16:39
  they. Could murder.
• 1:16:41
  If someones already violent and they're already willing to go to
• 1:16:44
  jail, then what is a restraining order or a piece of paper and
• 1:16:47
  anything do? I mean, we saw that the woman
• 1:16:49
  who did oh, shoot, I forgot her name.
• 1:16:52
  I think that her husband's TikTok username might have had
• 1:16:56
  like Duffy in it or something, but it was the.
• 1:16:59
  Woman that recently. Yeah, she passed because she
• 1:17:02
  says something about him online. It was probably more than just
• 1:17:04
  that. But he came and he took her
• 1:17:07
  life, you know, and she was trying to get a restraining
• 1:17:09
  order on him. And she might have even been
• 1:17:11
  successful. But it's like, what does a piece
• 1:17:12
  of paper do if somebody really wants to hurt you?
• 1:17:14
  Well, but. And also this is just a pattern.
• 1:17:17
  I agree with you, but. You kind of delayed, you lagged.
• 1:17:24
  Sorry, what were you saying? Go ahead, millennial.
• 1:17:27
  Oh, you're fine. I was just.
• 1:17:30
  I kind of forgot it escaped me. We were talking about how she
• 1:17:36
  got her life, got taken in a restraining order.
• 1:17:39
  It's just. A piece of paper.
• 1:17:40
  The reason why, yeah, I was agreeing.
• 1:17:43
  Yeah, restraining orders don't always do much.
• 1:17:45
  However, in the context of this, you know, Gypsy saying she
• 1:17:50
  didn't respond, she's an immature child who would
• 1:17:53
  fucking, I'm sorry, forget about TikTok stuff.
• 1:17:56
  Who would respond to a murderer incarcerated who emails her out
• 1:18:02
  of the blue after the murderer's husband just went off on you the
• 1:18:06
  day before because you said you're aware she killed, had
• 1:18:10
  someone killed, right? Yeah.
• 1:18:12
  Like I wouldn't respond to her. Well, and no telling what what
• 1:18:17
  the tone of Brian's e-mail was. I mean, because what, he's from
• 1:18:21
  Boston, right? He sounds like he's from Boston.
• 1:18:24
  He. Is, yeah.
• 1:18:25
  Yeah. So, you know, you've got the
• 1:18:28
  Boston menacing gangster kind of vibe going there with him.
• 1:18:33
  And so I can only imagine that that would come out in his
• 1:18:36
  writing to her. Yeah.
• 1:18:40
  I'm sure that's unfortunate. Yeah, OK, let's resume.
• 1:18:46
  So like saying like how about you when I talk to my husband
• 1:18:49
  about your fucking sex life and I'm about to get fucked, How
• 1:18:53
  about that? Sorry, Joel.
• 1:18:55
  Oh, I. Don't.
• 1:18:56
  I want to go there? I want to go there.
• 1:19:04
  So do me a favor, don't let it die, OK?
• 1:19:08
  There's like we buried. And by the way, this is the
• 1:19:10
  reason why like I've basically stopped talking to male Co
• 1:19:15
  workers of mine, let alone ones that are married, because
• 1:19:18
  sometimes you'll make a joke or you'll say something stupid or
• 1:19:20
  whatever and then all of a sudden it's like something that
• 1:19:23
  it's not. So I just, you know, men,
• 1:19:26
  nothing against men, but I'm just kind of like this at the
• 1:19:28
  moment. I.
• 1:19:31
  Actually, we're good. I defended you.
• 1:19:34
  I defended your action. You know, I told her, I said my
• 1:19:37
  wife won't do that again because here's the thing that far came
• 1:19:42
  in and she was on the group text that me and Herbert texted last
• 1:19:46
  night, you know, like about the situation and she come in and
• 1:19:50
  said it is bad. I was like what is bad?
• 1:19:52
  And she said your wife shouldn't have done that.
• 1:19:53
  I said I said well, you know, I said I told her that she
• 1:19:56
  shouldn't do that anymore, blah blah, blah.
• 1:19:58
  And I said but she didn't say anything bad.
• 1:20:01
  And she said I get this baby. This is one thing we got to be
• 1:20:03
  careful about. Miss Gasbard said, how did your
• 1:20:08
  wife even find her? I said, well, I was like, First
• 1:20:11
  off, I was like, I talk about work, you know, I was like, I
• 1:20:14
  said Alicia Holmes, it's not her.
• 1:20:16
  And she's like, no, Miss Holmes counts private.
• 1:20:18
  I said, no, it's not. I said it's his teacher at
• 1:20:20
  Southwest Charter. That doesn't mean that it's not
• 1:20:24
  private just because it says her occupation.
• 1:20:30
  He's a jerk. Did.
• 1:20:33
  You did you tell, you tell them that she you might bring a
• 1:20:37
  request. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:43
  Why does that matter? Yeah.
• 1:20:45
  'Cause like they, I'm sure Ryan's people, his Co workers
• 1:20:50
  are thinking, well, she's in prison.
• 1:20:54
  She can't even be on Facebook. How does she?
• 1:20:56
  But you know, Ryan's taking her calls in the classroom, telling
• 1:21:01
  the kids put headphones on and whatever and talking, telling
• 1:21:05
  her every single thing that goes on there, right?
• 1:21:09
  And he probably sent her screenshots of the ladies
• 1:21:12
  Facebook. And if and if you don't have
• 1:21:16
  anybody that you know that's incarcerated in jail or prison,
• 1:21:20
  then you don't understand the politics, the the, how they go
• 1:21:26
  about doing stuff. So like, like I've told you guys
• 1:21:29
  before, my cousin will call me up and say, Hey, we're about to
• 1:21:32
  get this prisoner in. Can you look her up and, you
• 1:21:35
  know, tell me what her charges are different things like that.
• 1:21:39
  You know, that's that's very common.
• 1:21:41
  You know, she only, she's only done that a couple of times
• 1:21:44
  since she's been incarcerated. But but they get women in like,
• 1:21:49
  you know, every day or, you know, very not every day, but
• 1:21:52
  they get women in a lot. So it's not like she's sending
• 1:21:56
  me on a chase to run down every inmate that comes in.
• 1:22:01
  But sometimes inmates will come in that already have a legend
• 1:22:06
  behind them or a story behind them.
• 1:22:08
  And so the women want to know what they're getting into before
• 1:22:11
  that woman walks in the door. So yeah.
• 1:22:17
  Yeah. They they can get information
• 1:22:20
  and they will find a way. And and depending on the loved
• 1:22:24
  one depends on how much information you get.
• 1:22:29
  OK. You know, like I told Miss
• 1:22:31
  Gaspard, I was like, plus I was like, she's not private.
• 1:22:33
  I was like, we're good. Like we're on Facebook.
• 1:22:35
  And I was like, she sent me a friend.
• 1:22:37
  I was like, it's not hard to find this home.
• 1:22:39
  So I was like, she might think she had her shit private, but
• 1:22:41
  she doesn't. And then she said, well, it's
• 1:22:43
  bad now. This is Gaspard talking, not
• 1:22:45
  home. Yeah, that's what I said.
• 1:22:47
  It's bad because your wife got a guy to kill her.
• 1:22:49
  And I said no. I said we ain't going there.
• 1:22:53
  What? Yeah, she said because it looks
• 1:22:55
  bad because your wife got a guy to kill her.
• 1:22:57
  Mom said no. I said.
• 1:22:59
  My wife didn't say. Why does she feel so shocked
• 1:23:02
  that somebody would be shocked? Yes.
• 1:23:07
  That is shocking, yes, because, right, she feels that she's
• 1:23:11
  above all of it. Deluded herself that she's
• 1:23:14
  completely innocent. This was some kind of accident.
• 1:23:18
  Nick just did that because he wanted to and all she asked for
• 1:23:20
  was help. We know better.
• 1:23:22
  But I think she has deluded herself into deeply believing
• 1:23:26
  that. And the people around her, they
• 1:23:29
  encourage it. Not only encourage it, but they
• 1:23:35
  enable it. Excuse enable.
• 1:23:39
  Yes, he is. Brandy.
• 1:23:40
  They're they both. They talk constantly as if she's
• 1:23:43
  completely innocent. She does not believe she's
• 1:23:45
  guilty. It's real obvious in these.
• 1:23:47
  Yeah, she thinks she just made one little mistake and found
• 1:23:50
  herself in prison. No, I agree and that's exactly
• 1:23:55
  how she's portraying herself. Always the victim.
• 1:23:58
  Yeah, that's right, Ginger. OK.
• 1:24:03
  I said, I said my wife didn't say nothing threatening.
• 1:24:06
  I said that dude lives in. I was like, we're not going to
• 1:24:08
  go there. We're not going to say that
• 1:24:09
  shit. I put the end of that right
• 1:24:10
  there. I was like you.
• 1:24:12
  Know said goddamn thing threatening.
• 1:24:14
  I'm very simple and actually I put her a lot worse than what I
• 1:24:22
  did. No, I, I know, I know.
• 1:24:24
  And I and I told Miss Gadwell, I said you even read it.
• 1:24:26
  And she said yeah, but you know your wife shouldn't do that.
• 1:24:29
  I said, I understand, I said, but we're not going to pull.
• 1:24:33
  I said. But I said we're not going to
• 1:24:34
  pull a murdering shit out. I said no, we're not.
• 1:24:38
  My wife didn't say nothing. Right, right.
• 1:24:43
  Yes, we're not going to pull that card out.
• 1:24:47
  Like I'm literally. Sorry.
• 1:24:49
  Convicted murderer. Like what is he?
• 1:24:53
  Right Delululand. Violence.
• 1:25:00
  And I was like, no, we're not. Going to go there, sorry.
• 1:25:03
  You know, we got to be. Sorry, you're fine.
• 1:25:06
  Their usernames already scrolled past.
• 1:25:08
  I didn't catch it and I can't scroll up in the comments for
• 1:25:11
  some reason, but someone said Nick lived far away too, because
• 1:25:15
  Ryan was saying that guy lives far away.
• 1:25:17
  Yeah, so did Nick. Yeah.
• 1:25:19
  No, really, what was it, like 3000 miles or some ridiculous
• 1:25:24
  crap like that? OK.
• 1:25:31
  Be careful you can't do shows like that baby, because that's
• 1:25:33
  how these fucking yahoos will take it.
• 1:25:35
  Tell her unless, unless you've got an affair going on, you tell
• 1:25:42
  this woman cannot talk to you her fucking sex life.
• 1:25:46
  You tell her I will, I will, I will, I will until I die in this
• 1:25:53
  house right now. Well, come here.
• 1:25:59
  I know you didn't, baby. I'm on your side.
• 1:26:02
  I'm on your side. Nothing's going to come with.
• 1:26:04
  Me, I didn't do anything wrong. But she did, she did something
• 1:26:09
  extremely wrong, extremely something that crosses the
• 1:26:14
  boundaries like. Crazy.
• 1:26:19
  Yeah, she's crying that she didn't do anything wrong.
• 1:26:21
  It's like you're sitting in prison because you had your mom
• 1:26:24
  murdered and the reason Ryan's having this chat is because you
• 1:26:30
  had a convicted felon for explosives and assault on a
• 1:26:34
  woman e-mail a woman at his work, but you don't.
• 1:26:38
  Like what the? And she's like, I didn't do
• 1:26:40
  anything. Wrong.
• 1:26:41
  But then. But then she acts like a badass
• 1:26:44
  so. Which is the problem.
• 1:26:46
  No accountability on any level, ever ever, ever.
• 1:26:49
  And it's like never going to change.
• 1:26:51
  Yeah. Perhaps she means she did
• 1:26:53
  nothing illegal. Not illegal, so I'm good, I'm
• 1:26:57
  fine. It won't add prison time, but I
• 1:27:00
  mean there are some things she did that could have added prison
• 1:27:03
  time if people in Missouri gave a shit.
• 1:27:05
  But. Yeah, well, and OK, so
• 1:27:08
  Millennial, I shared with you the e-mail thread between myself
• 1:27:16
  and Dan Patterson. Yes.
• 1:27:18
  I remember. From my from what I got out of
• 1:27:28
  everything, it seems like Dan Patterson only had a few files
• 1:27:33
  that he worked with in order to even do this case.
• 1:27:40
  He. Did not care at all.
• 1:27:41
  Like, and I get that that's how attorneys and prosecutors work.
• 1:27:47
  They don't get deep into cases like we do in true crime, which
• 1:27:51
  they did. But he did not seem to care
• 1:27:54
  about this at all. No, literally he sent me like,
• 1:27:58
  'cause like I said earlier, there's a FOIA that I've got
• 1:28:02
  out, you know, that could, you know, really seal the deal on
• 1:28:07
  whether Nick told her to say certain things?
• 1:28:11
  Because we've been told that Gypsy said that he told her
• 1:28:15
  these things, but we had never seen it.
• 1:28:19
  So I told them, you know, at first I went to Patterson's
• 1:28:23
  office and asked them for the files, and he sent me a
• 1:28:26
  screenshot of like 3 or 4 files. And he's basically like, this is
• 1:28:30
  all we have. Yeah.
• 1:28:32
  And so I was like, holy crap. That's all they have, literally.
• 1:28:37
  He just accepted whatever Mike Stanfield edited together and
• 1:28:42
  piece mailed to him and yeah. No, exactly like Millie said it
• 1:28:47
  in relation to this comment. Like it's just, you know.
• 1:28:50
  Does not care. I'm not trying to excuse what
• 1:28:54
  happened in this case. Thank you.
• 1:28:57
  Thank you, tempered Iron. So where is the timeline?
• 1:29:01
  In terms of how many other minutes?
• 1:29:03
  We have no idea. At the time, while she's so
• 1:29:07
  pissed off that this lady said something to she probably said
• 1:29:10
  I'd need to get laid or got laid last night or something.
• 1:29:14
  You know, like Laura was saying, I.
• 1:29:16
  Didn't say that. I mean, I would love to, but no.
• 1:29:19
  You were sorry. I mean, you were saying that
• 1:29:22
  you've said like slight little things to Co workers, not
• 1:29:26
  thinking that they would focus in on it like they did.
• 1:29:29
  Yeah. So you know this lady probably
• 1:29:32
  just made some random comment and gypsy's going off like.
• 1:29:37
  She's got this stuff. Fucking.
• 1:29:38
  Do you remember sex life? Having like convicted felons
• 1:29:42
  e-mail her. Yeah, well.
• 1:29:45
  They got nothing to talk about. So he's like, well, this is what
• 1:29:47
  happened at work today, Here's conversations.
• 1:29:49
  And then she's in prison. So she can't do anything about
• 1:29:51
  it. And it it's in her mind.
• 1:29:54
  And she's sitting there obsessing about it.
• 1:29:57
  I hate to say it but I feel like it's fair, at least in my
• 1:30:00
  experience it's fairly normal for Co workers that are already
• 1:30:03
  close to maybe say a little inappropriate thing or two just
• 1:30:06
  because ah, it's just the thing that's on my mind, you know what
• 1:30:08
  I mean? Maybe not like going into depth
• 1:30:11
  or anything, but just like an offhanded joke.
• 1:30:12
  And I'm sure that's all it was. I'm sure it was just like an
• 1:30:14
  offhanded stupid comment or joke rather than her actually getting
• 1:30:17
  into depth in detail about what's actually going on in her
• 1:30:21
  life. Yeah, like this lady mentioned,
• 1:30:25
  Ryan mentioned she had, this lady has a boyfriend, like she's
• 1:30:27
  clearly young dating, you know, kind of thing.
• 1:30:30
  It's not like a married woman telling, telling her about
• 1:30:34
  herself, like or anything. Like it's clearly a young lady,
• 1:30:37
  you know? Yeah.
• 1:30:38
  It's a dumb comment, like an offhanded thing she probably
• 1:30:41
  didn't think too thing probably. Well.
• 1:30:44
  Get also. I was just going to say the fact
• 1:30:47
  that she was bold enough to believe that this woman wanted
• 1:30:51
  Ryan or. Stop, stop, stop, stop.
• 1:30:55
  You know, also they say that cheaters get the most jealous or
• 1:30:59
  get the most like, up in arms about small little things.
• 1:31:04
  It's like, you know what? It's OK for me to do this.
• 1:31:06
  And I've made-up in my mind that because I've gone through this
• 1:31:08
  and this and that. Oh no.
• 1:31:14
  Drink. What?
• 1:31:16
  Happened fell off the. Chair.
• 1:31:19
  He's chilling. Though he's down there, he's
• 1:31:21
  like, yeah. He didn't even move a little
• 1:31:25
  bit. He's just.
• 1:31:26
  OK. He just tumbled.
• 1:31:29
  My bad. Sorry y'all.
• 1:31:30
  But anyway, people that are cheating, a lot of times, you
• 1:31:33
  know, they'll justify in their minds why they're doing
• 1:31:36
  something like, oh, I'm locked up in prison.
• 1:31:37
  It doesn't really matter anyway. Oh, I didn't actually sleep with
• 1:31:40
  them. So it's really not that big of a
• 1:31:42
  deal. You know, people who cheat, they
• 1:31:43
  just come up with any justification they can, but they
• 1:31:46
  get mad. Not the opposite party for doing
• 1:31:49
  the smallest thing. It's like, oh, you like you gave
• 1:31:52
  her a hug. How dare you?
• 1:31:54
  Because you gave her the hug. This and this and this is
• 1:31:56
  happening because they're guilty of other things on the other
• 1:31:59
  side. Projection thinking.
• 1:32:02
  What'd you say, Nancy? Projection, yeah.
• 1:32:04
  Projection thinking. Exactly.
• 1:32:06
  She said it in a lot simpler words.
• 1:32:08
  Yeah, they're, they're guilty of either thinking the same way or
• 1:32:12
  behaving the same way. Yeah, you good?
• 1:32:16
  Well, it's like when we know how much we know how much Pimp Juice
• 1:32:21
  Ride was getting around and whenever him and Christy split
• 1:32:26
  up, she apparently went and got with an older previous boyfriend
• 1:32:32
  and stayed in a cabin with him for three weeks.
• 1:32:34
  And Rod, Rod acted like his heart was broken and the emails
• 1:32:38
  about it, like you didn't know how I was going to forgive her
• 1:32:40
  and all this stuff. And he was actively talking to
• 1:32:43
  Cookie Lady, I'm pretty sure still at that time.
• 1:32:46
  OK, the cookie lady is one thing, but Rod being how old I'm
• 1:32:50
  messing around with a 19 year old.
• 1:32:52
  Yeah, I'm not gonna pretend like I've never had an age gap or
• 1:32:55
  two, but definitely not when I was 19.
• 1:32:58
  Like literally still teen. Teen is insane.
• 1:33:01
  Yeah, cuz she would have been beat.
• 1:33:03
  Teen. Oh, OK.
• 1:33:04
  And they would have been. Too.
• 1:33:05
  OK, that's not the point. That's not the point of the
• 1:33:07
  story. The point of the story is teen.
• 1:33:10
  Teen. That's insane.
• 1:33:11
  You guys took my phone away for the last time at 19, 19.
• 1:33:16
  Oh, my goodness. Dragon's Den.
• 1:33:18
  Brandy over here, She had a front row seat to all of this
• 1:33:21
  stuff. Not as somebody who was a part
• 1:33:23
  of the affair. Sorry.
• 1:33:25
  I realized the way I said that set it on.
• 1:33:27
  But she saw all this stuff going on because she was friends with
• 1:33:30
  Christy at the time. Yeah, So I can't remember.
• 1:33:33
  Brandy, you met Christy, right? I don't know if they've actually
• 1:33:38
  met before or not. Let's listen to the rest of this
• 1:33:41
  and see. Sorry.
• 1:33:43
  I'm pissed off, I'm pissed off. Hey, I am pissed off at gas bar
• 1:33:48
  for even saying that shit. I said we are not going to go
• 1:33:51
  there. I said my wife is a good person
• 1:33:53
  though and she's like OK, you're right, you're right.
• 1:33:56
  And I was like yes. I was like so don't even start
• 1:33:58
  saying shit like that. That is bad.
• 1:34:00
  I was like so I haven't. There's nothing going to come of
• 1:34:04
  it. But that's how these stupid
• 1:34:05
  bitches think, baby. Stupid.
• 1:34:08
  Bitches, you know, like, that's what they went to.
• 1:34:10
  And I was like, you've got to be kidding me.
• 1:34:11
  That's what everybody goes to. And it's ridiculous.
• 1:34:15
  Like, I'm sorry, baby, but that's stupid, fucking stupid.
• 1:34:18
  And it's not fair. It's not fair 'cause they don't
• 1:34:20
  fucking know you. It's not fair, it's not fair.
• 1:34:23
  And I'm sorry, but baby, that's just the way people think
• 1:34:26
  sometimes. Like especially the ignorant
• 1:34:28
  ones. But you know, it's funny.
• 1:34:30
  Holmes didn't go there. Holmes didn't say anything about
• 1:34:33
  your past. You know what she said?
• 1:34:36
  She said she almost got her boy brand to text Brian and cussing
• 1:34:39
  out and said, well she should have been that.
• 1:34:40
  I said because I don't like Brian anyway.
• 1:34:42
  Wait real quick you deposit? So I thought we had said that
• 1:34:47
  Holmes is the person that had gotten the message from Brian,
• 1:34:51
  but it sounds like he's saying that Holmes wasn't the one they
• 1:34:54
  were talking shit about just then.
• 1:34:56
  No, he's saying that Holmes didn't say anything about her
• 1:34:59
  being a murderer. It was the principal who said
• 1:35:02
  it. Well.
• 1:35:05
  Listen to your Dang principle. If the cop if the the pots call
• 1:35:10
  the kettle black. I don't know.
• 1:35:12
  However not saying. 2839 in the comments says imagine murdering
• 1:35:16
  someone then not wanting people to judge you for it.
• 1:35:19
  Right. And that's that's how she
• 1:35:22
  operates. Yeah.
• 1:35:24
  She murdered somebody, or she had somebody murdered.
• 1:35:27
  Either way, somebody was murdered.
• 1:35:29
  Her Mama of all people, and she doesn't think that people
• 1:35:34
  shouldn't judge her for that. I'm sorry but.
• 1:35:39
  Just. Darvo.
• 1:35:41
  Darvo, deny, attack, reverse. Yeah, and in her Christian era,
• 1:35:47
  she was throwing out Bible verses about not judging.
• 1:35:51
  Oh yeah. No, this is America and we judge
• 1:35:54
  murders. We judge them with the court
• 1:35:58
  system with a label of felon murder in the second degree for
• 1:36:04
  life. No, of course.
• 1:36:06
  And your average person with a fully developed frontal cortex
• 1:36:10
  is going to be like, hey, no. And the only people who are
• 1:36:13
  going to kind of like most of the people that are excusing
• 1:36:15
  this are people that are like, in their teens or early 20s.
• 1:36:19
  You know what I mean? I'm not trying to act like I'm
• 1:36:21
  so far above that because I'm not.
• 1:36:22
  I'm only 25. But you know, when I was in my
• 1:36:25
  20s, I was like, Oh yeah, I can see it.
• 1:36:28
  I get it. Go Gypsy.
• 1:36:30
  But now I'm like. Your early 20s, Yeah.
• 1:36:32
  My early 20s, early 20s. No, I agree.
• 1:36:36
  That was also before I had information, and information
• 1:36:39
  changes everything you know. It sure does like.
• 1:36:44
  I said if she cannot own up to the fact that he perceived
• 1:36:49
  whatever it did happen as harsh and for that and be like, Oh my
• 1:36:55
  bad. I'm sorry that I popped off at
• 1:36:57
  you like that. That's all that had to come of
• 1:37:00
  right? And that's all that and like
• 1:37:02
  we've already no, but listen to me.
• 1:37:04
  She apologized. She said I'm sorry if I was
• 1:37:07
  hard. Now look, that was Gaspar that
• 1:37:09
  said that, not Holmes. I'm letting you know that Miss
• 1:37:13
  Holmes did not go there. Miss Gasbar did not shut it
• 1:37:16
  down. If people want to put that on
• 1:37:22
  me, then I'll be all too happy to take on that role.
• 1:37:25
  No, Call me, please. Pause.
• 1:37:30
  Pause. Pause.
• 1:37:31
  She just threatened to kill her, she said.
• 1:37:34
  If that's what they're going to put on me, I will be more than
• 1:37:36
  happy to take on that role. Hold on, let's go back.
• 1:37:40
  The murder. Yeah.
• 1:37:44
  You're right. OK, let's listen to that again.
• 1:37:47
  Just. Take one that role.
• 1:37:49
  OK, hold on, let's go back. Trying to make sure I'm hearing
• 1:37:53
  right play.
• 1:38:04
  OK, sorry. Sorry, I was coughing.
• 1:38:06
  You could have pressed. Play.
• 1:38:08
  Now look, that was Gaspard that said that, not Holmes.
• 1:38:12
  I'm letting you know that Miss Holmes did not go there.
• 1:38:15
  Miss Gaspard did not shut it down, everyone.
• 1:38:19
  If people want to put that on me then I'll be all too happy to
• 1:38:23
  take on that role. Oh nice.
• 1:38:26
  Look. Send that to Javier.
• 1:38:29
  No, I'm sorry. There you go.
• 1:38:32
  There you go. Unclip it.
• 1:38:34
  I know everyone loves to clip. Clip it.
• 1:38:38
  Clip it. Sullen.
• 1:38:39
  You got that, Brandy, You got that?
• 1:38:41
  Yeah, clip it. How many creators we got in the
• 1:38:42
  chat? Mothership, Did you get that?
• 1:38:45
  Please do I it's important you know I never ever set out to
• 1:38:51
  make gypsies life worse. No, I set out to understand
• 1:38:56
  things and this is where it got me.
• 1:38:59
  And. If she looks worse in the
• 1:39:00
  process, that's her own fault. Right.
• 1:39:02
  Full moon 77, She said she's talking about the title of
• 1:39:06
  murder. She says if they want to put
• 1:39:08
  that on me, I will be all too happy to take on that role.
• 1:39:13
  That's insane of. Murder didn't let it finish, she
• 1:39:16
  said. Go ahead, Nancy.
• 1:39:19
  She says of murder. We didn't let her finish.
• 1:39:22
  OK, let me. Just everyone, we are at an hour
• 1:39:25
  and 39 minutes and 25 seconds, so somewhere around here there's
• 1:39:29
  going to be something to clip for somebody.
• 1:39:32
  I don't even care who, just send it to somebody.
• 1:39:34
  OK, let's go back. Send it to somebody.
• 1:39:37
  I don't care, somebody. OK, we're going to go there.
• 1:39:43
  Miss Gasbar did not shut it down.
• 1:39:45
  If people want to put that on me, then I'll be all too happy
• 1:39:51
  to take on that role. No, call me baby.
• 1:39:56
  No. She didn't say that, though.
• 1:40:01
  Take on that role so give a fuck.
• 1:40:04
  She didn't. She didn't.
• 1:40:06
  She didn't say they can call me that.
• 1:40:10
  That's what I did, she said. I'll take on that role.
• 1:40:14
  Yeah. Like something I'm going to do,
• 1:40:17
  That's what that sounds like to me to anybody else, right?
• 1:40:20
  Yeah. This she doesn't identify as a
• 1:40:22
  murderer, remember? So she says if they want to call
• 1:40:25
  me that, I will be all too happy to take on that role.
• 1:40:28
  She threatened to kill somebody. Gypsy.
• 1:40:32
  Gypsy and especially someone like that for somebody that you
• 1:40:34
  say you don't love Ryan or that you weren't sexually directed to
• 1:40:37
  Ryan for that you're you're getting all up in arms and you
• 1:40:41
  know Ryan, you're fucking disgusting.
• 1:40:42
  I'm sorry because he's into that.
• 1:40:44
  He's into the crazy. And you know.
• 1:40:47
  Plenty of people like a little bit of give and take, a little
• 1:40:50
  bit of a tumultuous relationship here and there, but holy moly,
• 1:40:55
  she said she. I love.
• 1:40:57
  That. Yeah.
• 1:40:59
  That's valid, but the point being is it's disgusting that he
• 1:41:06
  wanted somebody that would be so possessive that she would
• 1:41:08
  potentially do the same thing that she did to her mother, to
• 1:41:11
  one of your Co workers for even just talking to you about
• 1:41:14
  something somewhat sexual. And who knows what that even
• 1:41:18
  meant. It could have been like a stupid
• 1:41:19
  offhanded joke. It could have been something.
• 1:41:21
  Ryan exaggerates. Like whatever Ryan told her was
• 1:41:24
  probably not whatever was actually said.
• 1:41:27
  I'm sure. She wasn't thirsting on Ryan.
• 1:41:31
  No. I'm not trying to be an asshole,
• 1:41:33
  I just don't think that's what was happening.
• 1:41:35
  I mean like. Did you guys hear him telling
• 1:41:37
  Gypsy that the jeweler was so impressed with his mom's ring
• 1:41:42
  that she's getting? That just went on and on about
• 1:41:45
  how special it was and he thought they was going to try to
• 1:41:47
  buy it and everything? I bet they said oh this is nice
• 1:41:51
  to be polite to their customer. This is this is vintage.
• 1:41:56
  Oh yeah, they just. They'll let you talk and talk
• 1:41:59
  and talk. As long as you buy something.
• 1:42:01
  Yeah, right. What are you fussing about?
• 1:42:04
  I'm going to take them upstairs. OK, OK, so we're going to listen
• 1:42:11
  to the rest of this. This is wild though I didn't
• 1:42:16
  catch that when I uploaded this so.
• 1:42:20
  She didn't say that. Baby, come here.
• 1:42:28
  He's backpedaling. That was some old, that was some
• 1:42:37
  old bitch. I ain't paying attention to that
• 1:42:39
  baby. I shut that down and she agreed.
• 1:42:42
  I said, you know, if you look bad, it just looked bad because
• 1:42:44
  it was Brian. Brian looks like a scumbag on
• 1:42:47
  his picture, baby. Just a little record.
• 1:42:48
  I have literally no way yes on Facebook.
• 1:42:55
  So what the fuck did you get that you know another person for
• 1:43:00
  and and I know that baby, I'm not mad at you.
• 1:43:02
  I'm not on your I'm not no, we are good.
• 1:43:06
  Like I'm just telling you what happened.
• 1:43:08
  I'm just I'm just telling you what happened.
• 1:43:11
  I'm just telling you what was saying and I fucking and I stood
• 1:43:15
  up for you and I shot that shit down like you man took care of
• 1:43:19
  it. Do you have a medal for it like?
• 1:43:23
  Do you want a? Medal.
• 1:43:24
  Medal for it. No, I just want you to know that
• 1:43:26
  it's OK. That's crazy.
• 1:43:28
  She then turns that back around and says, oh, you want a medal
• 1:43:31
  for standing up for me? She turns on him like that.
• 1:43:35
  She's psycho. Angry like rage, crying, Brandy
• 1:43:43
  said. Be right back.
• 1:43:44
  Going to post the clip. OK, awesome.
• 1:43:47
  Thank you, Brandy. I want you to know I'm not going
• 1:43:53
  to let people do that shit to you because it's not fair.
• 1:43:58
  That's what that's what I'm telling you.
• 1:44:00
  There's nobody's going to get away with doing that shit to my
• 1:44:02
  baby. Nobody.
• 1:44:03
  Well, don't worry. Your convict wife won't ever
• 1:44:09
  travel in your business again. Maybe.
• 1:44:13
  About damn time. He does, yeah.
• 1:44:18
  Oh, my goodness. Could you imagine, like even
• 1:44:22
  just my husband, if he was like getting all up in, you know, my
• 1:44:27
  work colleagues, you know, business and emailing them and
• 1:44:32
  stuff? Hell no, no, no.
• 1:44:35
  Oh yeah, I mean, I worked at the same place for 19 years.
• 1:44:38
  I early retired January 2025 and like in 1970 met some of my Co
• 1:44:46
  workers and stuff. There was never any problem any
• 1:44:49
  reason for him to be mad but Oh my God if he I just.
• 1:44:53
  I'm trying to imagine even experiencing your partner
• 1:44:57
  emailing crazy shit to your Co workers and I just can't.
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  I can't even imagine it. Like I would.
• 1:45:04
  It would be a big deal. And Nancy, you've worked with
• 1:45:08
  your husband before. Yeah, I I can't imagine him
• 1:45:14
  reaching out to somebody like that's just nuts.
• 1:45:18
  And while they're in prison, she's in prison for murderer.
• 1:45:21
  Yeah. What is wrong with these people?
• 1:45:25
  Well. And it just seems like logic is
• 1:45:30
  suspended in this case, over and over and over again.
• 1:45:34
  And it's like, you listen to something like this and you're
• 1:45:37
  like, how do you not understand that?
• 1:45:39
  This is absolutely insane. But I say it all the time, we're
• 1:45:44
  trying to rationalize a crazy person and that there is no
• 1:45:48
  logic, that we'll never figure it out.
• 1:45:51
  But here we are trying. She tries to rationalize it.
• 1:45:55
  I think Holiday Inn Montana joined a bit late.
• 1:45:57
  They said Doesn't Gypsy need permission to e-mail people?
• 1:46:01
  She had one of her dudes on the outside, Brian Golden, who was
• 1:46:05
  recently arrested for possession of C Sam.
• 1:46:09
  She had him send the e-mail to Brian's to Ryan's Co worker.
• 1:46:14
  Yeah, so they don't have the Internet.
• 1:46:18
  They can't just get on the Internet and Google things.
• 1:46:20
  So they have their friends and family do it for them, and
• 1:46:24
  Gypsy, unfortunately, has a habit of doing everything by
• 1:46:28
  proxy. Real quick, real quick, sorry.
• 1:46:32
  So you said something about how they don't have anybody or they
• 1:46:36
  don't have access to the Internet.
• 1:46:38
  They have somebody look at things for them.
• 1:46:42
  Who was it that just said that Gypsy was it was it in the Call
• 1:46:46
  Me Chris video where she said for the first time Gypsy was
• 1:46:49
  able to log on to the computer? Yeah, it was.
• 1:46:52
  Her and look up what Munchausen by proxy was and connect the
• 1:46:55
  dots. Yeah, that's.
• 1:46:57
  Insane. That's insane.
• 1:47:00
  Sorry no one sold to her. It's just I knew I remembered
• 1:47:03
  that from somewhere recently. Yeah, no, I mean logic is
• 1:47:09
  completely suspended. You know, call me Chris if you
• 1:47:11
  happen to be watching all this stuff because is he OK wrapped?
• 1:47:15
  Up in my OK. All right, Yep.
• 1:47:19
  But yeah, if Call Me Chris is starting to look through all
• 1:47:21
  this stuff because she uploaded the one video and realized
• 1:47:24
  there's documents to back up other stuff.
• 1:47:26
  Holy moly, She just got herself into a whole new thing with all
• 1:47:29
  of these phone calls dropping not just from us, but from
• 1:47:32
  everybody, you know. Williams, 2839.
• 1:47:36
  I made a point in the like I'm echoing.
• 1:47:40
  You're echoing. Yeah.
• 1:47:42
  Sorry, sorry I don't know what to do about it.
• 1:47:47
  They said in DB relationships many partners with your jobs and
• 1:47:50
  I was like what a good point. Yeah.
• 1:47:53
  Yes, that's very true. Absolutely.
• 1:47:56
  As much as I think that Ryan was not perfect in this
• 1:47:59
  relationship, that definitely seems like what was going on.
• 1:48:03
  Equal rebrand 20 memberships. Yeah, we need to make you
• 1:48:08
  membership content. I know we do.
• 1:48:10
  We really do. Anymore.
• 1:48:13
  I can't. No.
• 1:48:17
  And for people who are kind of casually just joining in, what
• 1:48:21
  you have 48,000 phone calls. We have 44,000 files.
• 1:48:28
  We not all of them are Gypsy, and not all of them are audio
• 1:48:34
  files. OK.
• 1:48:36
  Are the other ones PDF files? What else?
• 1:48:40
  Sorry, I'm sorry. Gypsy like let her inmates lose
• 1:48:45
  her pen time sometimes I don't tell them what she was traded
• 1:48:48
  for it but but. Correct.
• 1:48:50
  So we have other other calls from other people.
• 1:48:54
  Yes, we know she took her her video down and so admirable that
• 1:49:00
  she decided to do that and decided to look into it so
• 1:49:03
  because. That's a lot of time and money
• 1:49:05
  that she spent. I mean, she probably had
• 1:49:06
  researchers or editors or something like that that went in
• 1:49:10
  and helped her. So she's kind of at a loss for
• 1:49:12
  all that one or for all of that stuff.
• 1:49:14
  So yeah, big shout out to her, but.
• 1:49:18
  Rebrand. When are you going to join MBR?
• 1:49:20
  Yeah, rebrand. Oh.
• 1:49:22
  We lost Millie. Oh no.
• 1:49:23
  She'll be back into the week. But I just wanted people to
• 1:49:28
  really understand what you're dealing with on that end, on
• 1:49:31
  trying to vet this. Make sure that it really is
• 1:49:34
  Gypsy on these phone calls, having to listen to the first
• 1:49:36
  few seconds. Uploading them individually like
• 1:49:39
  this is a light, very labor intensive job that you've taken
• 1:49:42
  on and I truly, truly appreciate you doing this.
• 1:49:46
  Well, thank you because I, you know, did not expect these to be
• 1:49:50
  coming out. And then when they popped up on
• 1:49:53
  the Internet, you know, I wasn't sure if they were real or if
• 1:49:57
  they were fake or what was going on.
• 1:50:00
  Well, because Mandy got it denied several times, yeah.
• 1:50:04
  And so I'm wondering what changed.
• 1:50:05
  And so people kind of acted like, oh, Mandy didn't know how
• 1:50:09
  to word the FOIA, but no, that's not true.
• 1:50:14
  Mandy did a a great job doing that.
• 1:50:17
  She she just was denied so. Hers was approved weirdly at the
• 1:50:23
  same time everyone got them. Yeah, well, as soon as the calls
• 1:50:29
  came out, she immediately then went to DOC and asked them, hey,
• 1:50:34
  you know, why was I not approved?
• 1:50:37
  But now somebody else has come behind me and has been approved,
• 1:50:41
  and then you did not send a correspondence to me letting me
• 1:50:44
  know. I think that's what she said.
• 1:50:46
  I don't know. I could be making that up.
• 1:50:48
  But. I'm curious if something shifted
• 1:50:51
  or if Gypsy allowed it to happen or what.
• 1:50:54
  I don't know. I'm I'm curious if she's going
• 1:50:56
  to get. A and that was one thing.
• 1:50:58
  And before we get into that, yes, she was allowing other
• 1:51:01
  people to use her PIN. But also, wait, what were you
• 1:51:06
  just saying? What was I just saying?
• 1:51:10
  Crap, she said. Why did they suddenly become
• 1:51:13
  available to come out? Did Gypsy allow them or what?
• 1:51:16
  Yeah. So that's what I'm thinking is,
• 1:51:19
  is that somebody had to have either petitioned the court,
• 1:51:24
  like Gypsy or somebody petitioned the court or DOC and
• 1:51:31
  said, hey, these are more valuable, you know, in the long
• 1:51:37
  run. They must have given some kind
• 1:51:39
  of good argument for them to change their mind.
• 1:51:42
  I'm kind of thinking maybe a time limit just expired?
• 1:51:47
  No, because the way that they were acting towards Mandy when
• 1:51:51
  she asked for them, they were like, no, absolutely not.
• 1:51:55
  They're not going to be available.
• 1:51:57
  Nick's were not going to be available because it would put
• 1:51:59
  him in harm's way, his phone calls and his emails.
• 1:52:04
  And so it sounded like they were just not even going to release
• 1:52:08
  them at all. It's.
• 1:52:08
  Different than gypsies because they're still.
• 1:52:10
  In yeah, but still, I mean, I think we learned all of that
• 1:52:13
  information right at the same time.
• 1:52:16
  So yeah. OK, let me stop the screen.
• 1:52:25
  And then we have two more calls to get into.
• 1:52:28
  I don't remember how long they are, but just this one is we're
• 1:52:35
  going to get into. I yelled at the mailman first.
• 1:52:41
  OK, somebody's here. I don't know who's here.
• 1:52:44
  OK, he's here. That's why Oats was yelling
• 1:52:47
  It's. Like, I hear stuff.
• 1:52:49
  What's going on? Is that ghost up there again?
• 1:52:52
  OK, so I yelled at the mailman again.
• 1:52:58
  No. OK, yeah.
• 1:53:03
  No, I'm not going. Trust account, save on fee and
• 1:53:08
  deposit money today Go to securitech.net that's
• 1:53:13
  SECURUSPECH dot. Brandy said she was told by the
• 1:53:21
  Blanchards way back when that Mike was fighting to keep all of
• 1:53:24
  the emails and calls suppressed. OK, well, there you go.
• 1:53:30
  Nancy. Yeah, I don't.
• 1:53:34
  I don't stream yard. You've been acting when you're
• 1:53:36
  can. Anybody else hear the echo?
• 1:53:38
  On us. On us.
• 1:53:39
  Oh, oh, I'll shut up then. OK, go ahead.
• 1:53:43
  Now you can speak and it's not echoing.
• 1:53:45
  Can I talk? Yeah.
• 1:53:46
  OK, gotcha. Nancy, I wonder if you could
• 1:53:50
  ever secure an interview with Mike Stanfield.
• 1:53:53
  I don't think I could, but I feel like you just have a way
• 1:53:56
  with words I don't. Know, I reached out to Dan
• 1:54:00
  Patterson a couple of times, but, you know, he goes
• 1:54:05
  unopposed, so he doesn't really probably have much to say to me.
• 1:54:08
  But yeah, I'd be happy to try, but I, I don't know.
• 1:54:13
  We'll see. Operate pre courtroom, live and
• 1:54:17
  encourage room. I don't know.
• 1:54:19
  I don't know. We'll see.
• 1:54:20
  See. OK, we're gonna do this again.
• 1:54:29
  Nat Hello this is a prepaid collect call from.
• 1:54:33
  Hey, it's Jesse. An offender at the Chillicothe
• 1:54:36
  Correctional Center. This call is from a Correctional
• 1:54:39
  Facility and may be monitored and recorded.
• 1:54:41
  To accept charges, press 1 to refuse charge.
• 1:54:44
  Thank you for using Securus. You may start the conversation
• 1:54:48
  now. Well, you know, you don't have
• 1:54:51
  to tell them right after either. Maybe wait six months.
• 1:55:01
  We can do whatever we want, that's the thing, And we can do
• 1:55:06
  whatever we. I feel like this is the wrong
• 1:55:13
  phone call for some reason, but we'll listen to it and see what
• 1:55:16
  happens. I got no clue.
• 1:55:21
  Want but I don't want to be ashamed of what we've done
• 1:55:27
  either because like, you know, it's not one of those things
• 1:55:31
  that I get why we would do it in secret.
• 1:55:33
  I get that. And but The thing is, is like
• 1:55:38
  after the fact, then it doesn't matter if we tell people or not.
• 1:55:43
  Like that's The thing is I get the lead up.
• 1:55:47
  We keep it a secret because you know that people would
• 1:55:51
  constantly try to call us out of it or.
• 1:55:55
  OK, I'm pretty sure this is the wrong audio.
• 1:55:59
  What were you trying to play? Well, she started yelling.
• 1:56:03
  Basically, you know, I'm mad, I'm mad, but.
• 1:56:06
  I didn't hear that one. We'll.
• 1:56:08
  We'll see. We'll see how this goes.
• 1:56:11
  You know, it's not getting her heads about shit and it's just
• 1:56:15
  shit that's like, this is our decision and I don't want nobody
• 1:56:19
  else to influence it. I know.
• 1:56:22
  Like, I mean, it's already been influenced so much in the last
• 1:56:26
  couple months as is because, you know, I've talked to people
• 1:56:31
  about it, not my people, but like people in here.
• 1:56:35
  And like Lori's on board. Like, but Lori has also been
• 1:56:40
  there for our journey. Like our whole journey.
• 1:56:43
  We've lived in the room together while you and I first started
• 1:56:46
  talking everything. So like, she's on board with
• 1:56:49
  doing whatever we want to do. She thinks that we're a good
• 1:56:52
  couple. OK, this is definitely the wrong
• 1:56:57
  1, SO we'll go into the next one that I have prepared.
• 1:57:02
  This is Gypsy asking Ryan if he's ever watched the movie, the
• 1:57:13
  Lifetime movie Ruby. And this is significant.
• 1:57:17
  Hold on. Yeah, I this movie is based off
• 1:57:22
  of VC Andrews book and a lot of my commenters pointed out to me
• 1:57:26
  all the similarities in some of Gypsies weird stories, lies and
• 1:57:32
  the Ruby book. So I have a copy of that.
• 1:57:35
  I read some of it on lives and was like, like there were a lot
• 1:57:39
  of weird parallel stories, stories that coincide with
• 1:57:45
  Gypsy, some of Gypsy stories that can't be proved.
• 1:57:50
  Yeah, exactly. Sorry, hold on.
• 1:57:54
  Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, Millennial has done a
• 1:57:59
  few streams on this book and this movie.
• 1:58:05
  And if you remember, Gypsy has a character named Ruby.
• 1:58:10
  So that's where we're going to be listening to.
• 1:58:13
  And I'm going to unmute you guys now and then press play.
• 1:58:22
  An offender at the Chillicothe Correctional Center calls.
• 1:58:26
  From a Correctional Facility and may be monitored and.
• 1:58:28
  Recorded To accept this free call, press 1 to refuse this
• 1:58:32
  free call. Thank you for using Securus.
• 1:58:34
  You may start the conversation now.
• 1:58:36
  I'm sorry. Daniel.
• 1:58:41
  What the hell have you been doing all day?
• 1:58:44
  What have you been doing all day?
• 1:58:45
  I've been cluttering you. You have not.
• 1:58:50
  I've been calling you since like 5 something.
• 1:58:54
  Oh well, I didn't see it. Oh well, I have been busy baby,
• 1:59:03
  you're always busy. Wow, what's wrong with that?
• 1:59:10
  This is not anytime for me. That's awful.
• 1:59:19
  I always make time for you. You gotta make, you know?
• 1:59:25
  You want me to make you your number one priority, huh?
• 1:59:27
  So I'll cut my hair today. Why?
• 1:59:31
  I cut about two inches off because like, my bang, like my
• 1:59:36
  longest, like I have layers and like my longest layers.
• 1:59:38
  So I cut it to my longest layers.
• 1:59:40
  So it's not like it's fine. It doesn't.
• 1:59:44
  Oh, it still looks good. Yeah, still looks good.
• 1:59:45
  It's just cut it to where like it.
• 1:59:49
  It just blends a little better. OK.
• 1:59:52
  OK. Like still yank that hair.
• 1:59:59
  Yeah. You missed me, didn't you?
• 2:00:01
  I'm going some years too, and I want you to watch this movie
• 2:00:04
  with me. What movie?
• 2:00:07
  OK, so it's on life, baby. I don't have I have cock and
• 2:00:18
  balls, babe. I don't know about a lifetime
• 2:00:20
  movie. OK, well, it's it's a series.
• 2:00:25
  It's part of the Andrews book series.
• 2:00:28
  Like I guess author made like. Have you ever heard the movie
• 2:00:31
  Flowers in the Attic? Yeah, I have actually, but I
• 2:00:35
  haven't seen it. OK, well it's by the tell me the
• 2:00:38
  tell me the tell me the movie baby.
• 2:00:40
  I would love to watch it with you.
• 2:00:42
  OK, so there is on last time right now their plan, not their
• 2:00:49
  plan. ZI think it's called damn it.
• 2:00:52
  I can't remember what it's called, but right now it's
• 2:00:55
  heaven. It's like part of like a four
• 2:00:57
  part series. So you know you they created he
• 2:01:02
  created the flowers in the attic series.
• 2:01:04
  That was his like first original series.
• 2:01:06
  Then his books got turned into movies and his second book
• 2:01:12
  series got turned. Well, on my time.
• 2:01:15
  And that's the one that's playing right now.
• 2:01:17
  It's called Heaven. Well, premiering tonight was
• 2:01:21
  Ruby, which is the first one of this next series.
• 2:01:26
  So which one do you want? You want me to watch Ruby?
• 2:01:30
  I want to watch Ruby or watch any of them.
• 2:01:33
  Any of them good. But they're not part of like
• 2:01:35
  this one that's playing right now.
• 2:01:37
  It's not part of the same series as Ruby.
• 2:01:40
  Which one do you want me to watch with you, Ruby?
• 2:01:42
  Yeah, OK, well, I'll think about it.
• 2:01:51
  Tell me how bad. Tell me how bad.
• 2:01:53
  You tell me how bad. You want me to watch it?
• 2:01:55
  I want you to watch it. Oh, OK, let's see.
• 2:02:00
  It's on Lifetime. I just want to make sure
• 2:02:06
  everyone in the chat gets the hilarity that Ryan said he's a
• 2:02:10
  man, he doesn't have Lifetime, wouldn't watch Lifetime, and
• 2:02:15
  then he became a Lifetime. Yes, yes, ma'am, that's.
• 2:02:22
  Hilarious. Where did those?
• 2:02:24
  Cock and balls go sorry that sounds horrible to my dad who
• 2:02:28
  just got home I swear. I.
• 2:02:30
  Swear there's no reason. OK, we're going to.
• 2:02:37
  Continue. Yeah, well, do I get a kiss for
• 2:02:45
  it? Yeah.
• 2:02:47
  Give me a kiss, then give me some tongue.
• 2:02:50
  You ready? I love this this series or I
• 2:02:54
  love like this author because like he writes about like
• 2:02:57
  fucking like incest and the girls in love with her brother
• 2:03:02
  baby. Why do you want me to watch this
• 2:03:03
  so bad then? Pause, pause, pause.
• 2:03:06
  What the hell? She said.
• 2:03:09
  I love this series because this author writes about incest and
• 2:03:13
  people fall in love with their brother Sheila.
• 2:03:20
  Joe just said that you're muted. Amber, you're muted.
• 2:03:23
  Amber, I'm sorry. Yeah, right.
• 2:03:27
  What did she allegedly send to Rod?
• 2:03:30
  Yeah. And also, so I've been meaning
• 2:03:33
  to do a reaction to this, but I just didn't even want to react
• 2:03:36
  to Ryan. But remember when Ryan did, you
• 2:03:40
  know, one of his Ryan's reactions to Gypsy being on that
• 2:03:45
  one podcast a while back where in she said that she was never
• 2:03:51
  in love with Ryan. She he was more like a brother
• 2:03:54
  and Ryan's like like a brother. He was going to have a baby with
• 2:03:57
  me. What you want a baby with your
• 2:03:58
  brother that you know, he's like, she definitely didn't
• 2:04:01
  think of me like a brother. Like, no, she might have.
• 2:04:03
  She might have. Really legit.
• 2:04:05
  A mother, brother. Her and Nick, her and Nick
• 2:04:10
  talked like that all the time, you know, brother and sister
• 2:04:13
  calling each other that stuff. And the incest and PDF themes
• 2:04:18
  just keep theming. With.
• 2:04:20
  All I can think of hold. On hold on.
• 2:04:26
  It loses its flair, but all I can think of is I'm my own
• 2:04:31
  grandpa. Oh boy.
• 2:04:37
  Ray Stevens, you know. Anyway.
• 2:04:42
  Oh man. OK, we're going to go back.
• 2:04:44
  We'll get into that. Yeah, it's sorry about the echo
• 2:04:50
  guys. Something together.
• 2:04:56
  Oh, that's sweet. OK, well, since you said it like
• 2:04:59
  that, I'm good. You know, I'm a sucker for
• 2:05:03
  watching things with you. All right, I see.
• 2:05:07
  V. Andrew.
• 2:05:08
  OK, let's see. Ruby comes on again after the
• 2:05:11
  death. I mean, it's just one movie.
• 2:05:15
  Well, the first one premiered tonight.
• 2:05:18
  It's part of her. OK, Farter.
• 2:05:20
  Have you watched it? I've watched it yet when do you
• 2:05:24
  watch it? I watched it about an hour ago.
• 2:05:27
  OK. After the death of her beloved
• 2:05:29
  grandmother, young Ruby Landry leaves the Bayou to search for
• 2:05:32
  her wealthy but strange father in New Orleans.
• 2:05:35
  OK, I'll watch it. I recording it.
• 2:05:40
  Cannot believe you got me watching a fucking Lifetime
• 2:05:42
  movie. The stuff I do for you.
• 2:05:47
  This call is from a Correctional Facility.
• 2:05:49
  And may be so. Hard.
• 2:05:50
  Recorded. And the stuff you promised to do
• 2:05:54
  for me never do. Well, that'll change someday.
• 2:06:01
  Oh, really? What day?
• 2:06:03
  You just let me know When? Someday.
• 2:06:04
  When I get out. Oh, are you gonna make me wait
• 2:06:09
  three years? What?
• 2:06:10
  Oh, yeah, Three years. Thank you.
• 2:06:14
  Uh huh. Under three years.
• 2:06:17
  Oh, OK. Under.
• 2:06:18
  It's like 2 years of 9800, baby. Can we make a countdown clock?
• 2:06:30
  Do you want to? Yeah.
• 2:06:31
  So you all know. Exactly.
• 2:06:35
  That's awful, love. We gotta hit your parole hearing
• 2:06:38
  first. No, no, no.
• 2:06:39
  Let's just say it estimated all right, let's do my 85% date.
• 2:06:43
  So it's uh, December 28th of 2023, December 28th of December
• 2:06:51
  of OK, I will make a countdown clock tomorrow.
• 2:06:55
  OK, and these I'll give you the countdown number.
• 2:07:02
  That's awful. Well, that's awful, baby.
• 2:07:07
  And then you want to wait six months before you get a baby?
• 2:07:12
  Yeah, Yeah, that's awful too. Well, you know, have you ever
• 2:07:19
  thought about like, OK, have you ever gone this far to think
• 2:07:23
  about the astrological sign? So if you take whatever you you
• 2:07:29
  want your baby to be and take it back nine months and that way
• 2:07:33
  you know exactly when to have sex so you can see the child and
• 2:07:37
  have it maybe born under the sign that you want it to be born
• 2:07:39
  under. What sign do you want it to be
• 2:07:42
  born under? Leo.
• 2:07:44
  Leo baby. I don't know if two Leos would
• 2:07:50
  work well together. Well, let's just hope it's not a
• 2:07:53
  girl because 2 Leo girls. Oh good Lord God help you.
• 2:07:57
  Oh, really? When was Aurora born?
• 2:08:04
  December. December.
• 2:08:06
  But you have Millie. You did.
• 2:08:09
  Oh, my bad. Sorry.
• 2:08:12
  I tried to meet you and then there you go.
• 2:08:15
  There. You go OK, I December as far as
• 2:08:18
  we know. Fair enough.
• 2:08:21
  Early December? Is that a late December?
• 2:08:24
  It was near her release date anniversary.
• 2:08:27
  Remember the 28th? Look up, Hey, Brandy said she's
• 2:08:33
  a Sagittarius, and then somebody else said she's the Capricorn.
• 2:08:38
  Yeah, Brandy said. Sorry, Capricorn, it's late
• 2:08:40
  December. Yeah, it was.
• 2:08:41
  That's just my late December. It's Capricorn.
• 2:08:43
  OK, gotcha. My stepdad's birthday was on
• 2:08:46
  Christmas. I just.
• 2:08:48
  Can't get. Over how?
• 2:08:50
  The excitement in Gypsy's voice when she said he writes about
• 2:08:54
  incest. It's creepy, genuinely.
• 2:08:58
  And Ryan was like, baby. And then he acts shocked that,
• 2:09:06
  you know, he's like, remember he said in that one video, she
• 2:09:09
  never did any of that weird shit with me.
• 2:09:11
  There was no role-playing, blah, blah, blah bullshit.
• 2:09:14
  He's on the phone call with her asking her if she had needed to
• 2:09:18
  go to the Kitty box. Yeah.
• 2:09:24
  I missed that. Yeah, yeah, he did.
• 2:09:28
  The kid in the weather. You're echoing alright.
• 2:09:35
  OK, OK. Yeah, that's probably awful.
• 2:09:40
  And that's so sweet. God help me.
• 2:09:42
  That's adorable. Yeah.
• 2:09:46
  And then I have you in the background one.
• 2:09:53
  Be like, no, you can't. I want.
• 2:09:57
  You're so fucking. You're adorable.
• 2:09:59
  I gotta go scream now. You miss me?
• 2:10:04
  Yeah. I miss you.
• 2:10:07
  Yeah. How's your day been?
• 2:10:08
  It's been crazy. I've been doing laundry and then
• 2:10:13
  I put too much soap in my life. I know I had to rinse it again
• 2:10:19
  because there was bubbles everywhere and it is a mess of
• 2:10:26
  of that. I'm cutting my own hair.
• 2:10:29
  Maybe you didn't chop it off, did you?
• 2:10:32
  No, I didn't chop it off. Like I literally like like it's
• 2:10:36
  still, it's still below my shoulders.
• 2:10:40
  So can you please? I wish I could see a picture of.
• 2:10:44
  I thought it was interesting that he said, baby, you didn't
• 2:10:46
  chop it off, did you? Like it sounds like that's some
• 2:10:48
  a recurring thing, like we know it is, but it sounds like within
• 2:10:52
  their relationship that recurred a few times.
• 2:10:55
  Right, you're right. That was not a surprise to him
• 2:10:57
  that she did that. He was just wanting to know what
• 2:10:59
  to what degree. Yeah, almost like she's the one
• 2:11:04
  who was always chopping. And somebody asked with a bar of
• 2:11:09
  soap. No, with toenail Clippers.
• 2:11:13
  She. Yeah, never mind.
• 2:11:17
  Thank you, Fidel Castro. Wow.
• 2:11:20
  Fidel Castro I appreciate. It that is awesome that Fidel
• 2:11:24
  Castro from the grave is coming to hang out with us.
• 2:11:30
  Definitely a a weird person that I would think would come hang
• 2:11:34
  out with us, but you know, whatever.
• 2:11:36
  Hey, it's fine. Chris Hansen.
• 2:11:38
  He promoted the Escobar film. Well, and what in the?
• 2:11:43
  Epstein pilot program. Sorry, I'm going to shut.
• 2:11:46
  Up What's his name? Trudeau could be Castro's secret
• 2:11:52
  son. Maybe.
• 2:11:55
  Sure, I'm sure he's as much of his secret son as Katy Perry.
• 2:11:58
  His girlfriend is Jominet Ramsey.
• 2:12:02
  Well, but no, his mom actually had an affair with Castro. 1980s
• 2:12:06
  talking. I'm sorry, we can't hear.
• 2:12:08
  We have you muted. I'm sorry, Sorry.
• 2:12:10
  I was just saying the same thing as Amber.
• 2:12:11
  I'm like, no, there's actually a possibility they're like a hers
• 2:12:14
  mom. Yeah, the history nerds were
• 2:12:17
  chiming up. Right.
• 2:12:20
  My bad. I didn't know.
• 2:12:21
  I didn't know. Do not underestimate me.
• 2:12:26
  I don't think that Katy Perry is Jon Benet.
• 2:12:29
  I don't. Either way, I don't either.
• 2:12:30
  I don't know. But I do think John Ramsey is a
• 2:12:34
  weirdo, Understand. Whatever that means, I don't
• 2:12:38
  know. Understatement.
• 2:12:40
  OK, let's finish. I know.
• 2:12:42
  I know my video visits will start soon though.
• 2:12:48
  Yeah, hopefully now that they're starting to do something about
• 2:12:52
  them. Yeah.
• 2:12:53
  OK. Don't snuggle.
• 2:12:55
  So what have you been doing all day?
• 2:13:00
  Well, LSU played at 12:45, so I watched them.
• 2:13:06
  Is that why I don't know, talk about them?
• 2:13:13
  Well, baby, what I did, I watched the game, OK, for how
• 2:13:19
  many hours? Oh, well, it's like 2 hours.
• 2:13:21
  And then, you know, I had to go to the grocery store and it
• 2:13:25
  seems like every time you call out of the way from my phone.
• 2:13:28
  And then it took, it took Noah to get Chinese food today.
• 2:13:32
  He loves Chinese food. So, you know, so we got back
• 2:13:36
  from Chinese food and he ate a ton and like he so much babe.
• 2:13:42
  It like now he's like tired. And it was funny last night he
• 2:13:45
  wanted to watch a movie so bad. Like he was like, all right,
• 2:13:48
  this new movie come out, you know.
• 2:13:50
  So I was like, all right, cool. It was Justice League like, you
• 2:13:53
  know. But the thing was is like HBO
• 2:13:56
  Max has been saying like all the new Justice League, the new
• 2:13:58
  Justice League, but all it was was the movie Justice League
• 2:14:02
  with added scenes and like changed and they re edited it.
• 2:14:08
  Like it was like the director's vision.
• 2:14:11
  They added like 2 hours to it, but we started watching it and
• 2:14:15
  it was like what the fuck we've already seen this movie.
• 2:14:18
  So he got disappointed on that. And then I turned on another
• 2:14:23
  movie and he fell asleep like 5 minutes in.
• 2:14:25
  It was adorable. Whenever he gets older, he'll
• 2:14:28
  appreciate the director's cut. I had a director's cut of Lord
• 2:14:32
  of the Rings and when I tell you it's taxed on like 5 hours, the
• 2:14:38
  whole thing was like 10. Hours, one of the best parts of
• 2:14:42
  that. My friend used to make us watch
• 2:14:44
  the fucking director's cut. We're high.
• 2:14:48
  Lord of the Rings, Yeah. Is that Lil Frodo?
• 2:14:54
  I'm sorry, I'm sorry. The director's cut and watching
• 2:14:57
  all that extra stuff is one of the best parts.
• 2:14:59
  It's a little proto. I'm sorry.
• 2:15:01
  Yeah, no, I agree. I like Lord of the Rings.
• 2:15:04
  Or I did. Yes, I've read the books and
• 2:15:08
  everything. Monitored and recorded.
• 2:15:12
  Like we'd be so mad because we'd be at his house and this would
• 2:15:15
  be the only movie he'd want to watch.
• 2:15:17
  And we've seen that fucking movie so many times and he's
• 2:15:21
  like, it's the directors cut it ad scenes.
• 2:15:24
  I've never seen it. And it's like, and it makes a
• 2:15:26
  lot of sense. Like, you know, watching the
• 2:15:30
  directors cutting and watching the original version, it's like,
• 2:15:34
  wow, there's it makes more sense.
• 2:15:37
  Yeah, I mean, I and I know, but fucking the Justice League was
• 2:15:41
  like 4 hours long. I mean, you know, it's no,
• 2:15:43
  that's too long. I've already watched a fucking
• 2:15:45
  long movie already. Hold on.
• 2:15:54
  OK, I think I'm done with that one because that's just
• 2:15:58
  monotonous stuff. I'm actually going to have to go
• 2:16:04
  soon FYI here in just a few minutes so.
• 2:16:07
  Yeah, I actually I think we're going to call it.
• 2:16:10
  Now. Especially since we have an
• 2:16:13
  echo, OK, Nancy and then millennial, can you guys just
• 2:16:21
  tell everybody what you guys are doing?
• 2:16:23
  They can't. Hear you hold.
• 2:16:25
  Up. Hold up real quick.
• 2:16:29
  We're going to go 1 by 1. Nancy, what are you doing?
• 2:16:33
  What can people look forward to on your podcast and on your
• 2:16:36
  channel? There you go.
• 2:16:38
  Oh, hold up. Let me unmute you.
• 2:16:40
  There we go. Hello.
• 2:16:42
  Well, first and foremost, Javier Leyva with Pretend Podcast is
• 2:16:47
  dropping his first episode on Tuesday.
• 2:16:49
  Bless his heart with all of this coming out.
• 2:16:52
  When I covered Gypsy, I had a couple of characters that I
• 2:16:55
  focused on and all the craziness.
• 2:16:57
  But even with that small amount, it was nuts how quick, how
• 2:17:01
  quickly everything changes also. So we're going through season 1
• 2:17:06
  episode by episode and just kind of breaking down behind the
• 2:17:10
  scenes what it took to get the interviews and stories that go
• 2:17:13
  along with it. So that's been, it's been fun to
• 2:17:16
  break down that came out so many years ago, like 7 years ago.
• 2:17:20
  So going back and kind of reliving those we're doing lives
• 2:17:24
  every week except this week because.
• 2:17:27
  Are you tired? But yeah, it's been a lot of
• 2:17:32
  fun, so thank you for having me. I appreciate you.
• 2:17:35
  Thank you. Thank.
• 2:17:36
  You, you're a busy lady and we appreciate you coming on.
• 2:17:39
  So just thank you so much and everybody go ahead and check out
• 2:17:42
  the Toll podcast. Yes, she has Gypsy stuff, but
• 2:17:45
  she has better stuff than that too, guys.
• 2:17:48
  Stuff that actually could change something so.
• 2:17:53
  Here in the Ozarks, we've had two cold cases from the 80s that
• 2:17:56
  have ended an arrest in the just the last couple of weeks and
• 2:17:59
  it's been really amazing to see that and that movement.
• 2:18:03
  I just hope it keeps going because we have so many families
• 2:18:06
  hurting here in the Ozarks and this has just been a really
• 2:18:09
  great light for them, adding in a really dark tunnel.
• 2:18:12
  So excited about those movements.
• 2:18:15
  No, no, you're absolutely correct.
• 2:18:17
  And just thank you so much for providing a voice for some of
• 2:18:20
  these people. Yes, and I fall asleep to your
• 2:18:23
  voice all the time. Yes.
• 2:18:27
  But thank you so much, Nancy. Have a good night.
• 2:18:31
  Don't remove her. Oh, don't remove her, OK?
• 2:18:33
  She'll remove herself. OK, my bad.
• 2:18:35
  I was gonna. Sorry.
• 2:18:37
  I'm trying to keep this to where everyone could hear each other.
• 2:18:39
  So, millennial, same question. Where can they find you?
• 2:18:42
  And what kind of stuff are you working on?
• 2:18:45
  Oh, hold up. I just muted you instead of
• 2:18:47
  unmuting you. I'm still.
• 2:18:50
  Good. Yeah, just my usual.
• 2:18:53
  I'm on YouTube and TikTok. I've been planning to start an
• 2:18:55
  Instagram and Facebook, but I haven't yet.
• 2:18:58
  I keep saying I'm going to do that and then I just don't, but
• 2:19:01
  I'm going to, I'm really going to this time, But I'm I'm
• 2:19:05
  working on the usual stuff. I I'm still, I've got just a few
• 2:19:10
  more compilations to do because I started going through all the
• 2:19:14
  videos from the previous FOIA and compiling them all with the
• 2:19:19
  dates like by month. So this video is this month and
• 2:19:23
  that and then I've also been doing live streams.
• 2:19:26
  I've been going over Mackenzie Sharilla and Dom's text doing
• 2:19:30
  that. And I want to know that Brian
• 2:19:36
  Koburger is trying to change his stuff up.
• 2:19:39
  I want to learn more about that case because it might become
• 2:19:43
  ongoing again. That's why I've been hoping to
• 2:19:44
  get in contact with Jules and because she is as deep in that
• 2:19:49
  case as what we are with Gypsy Rose, and I'd like for to get a
• 2:19:54
  recommendation from her. Like is Broken Plea the book the
• 2:19:56
  best place to start? Or where I need to get up to
• 2:20:02
  speed on the details of that case before I can talk about it
• 2:20:05
  intelligently. No, I agree, Millie, because
• 2:20:10
  like I've wanted to cover that case, but it's just as complex
• 2:20:15
  as this one, if not more. Probably because a.
• 2:20:18
  Lot more current and more like, you know, there's more people
• 2:20:21
  that are like there's more. People affected as well.
• 2:20:25
  With Gypsy, it was just, you know, Dee Dee's family and her
• 2:20:29
  friends. Basically.
• 2:20:31
  This is 4 families and then the friends and all of that stuff.
• 2:20:38
  Yeah. And so that, that's a
• 2:20:42
  interesting case that I really want to get into and I want
• 2:20:45
  Jules to come on and and talk about so that I feel a little
• 2:20:49
  more comfortable actually talking more about it.
• 2:20:53
  Because I feel like the foundation has shifted so much
• 2:20:58
  on that case that there really is no foundation.
• 2:21:03
  Hold on, sorry. There you go.
• 2:21:08
  Yeah, and I was just going to say I don't want to.
• 2:21:10
  I don't want to start talking about it before I feel like,
• 2:21:13
  like you said, like I really have a foundation of knowledge.
• 2:21:15
  Because as much as I love seeing new creators cover Gypsy when
• 2:21:19
  they don't know half the details, it's a little annoying.
• 2:21:23
  You know, we want to help them and I don't want to do that on
• 2:21:25
  another case myself. Right.
• 2:21:31
  OK, Sorry. Hold on.
• 2:21:34
  What were Nancy? Go ahead.
• 2:21:36
  No, I those cases take a lot of time.
• 2:21:38
  I know season 2 poison control took me 5 years.
• 2:21:41
  I ended up finding out that the mom and the dad probably had a
• 2:21:44
  lot of indiscretions and problems.
• 2:21:46
  So those things, you know, they just take a lot of time to dive
• 2:21:49
  in and it's awesome that we take the time to get it right.
• 2:21:54
  Let. Me be on this for five years.
• 2:21:57
  Oh, no, no. But I feel you.
• 2:21:59
  It's like, I wanted to, again, not to plug my stupid shit.
• 2:22:03
  I wanted to get this Chris Hansen thing out by the time
• 2:22:08
  they came up with this movie. But with the people that I want
• 2:22:11
  to talk to and the things I want to do, it might take a little
• 2:22:14
  bit of time. Get on top.
• 2:22:16
  Of it I gotta I gotta get on top of.
• 2:22:18
  It get on top of it. OK, well, yeah, so that's that.
• 2:22:24
  And there's a lot that I actually want to talk about.
• 2:22:28
  There's like a whole thing that you guys don't know that's
• 2:22:30
  happened like in the background that I want to talk about, but
• 2:22:33
  I'm not going to just because it feels like it'll muddy the water
• 2:22:38
  and it'll cause more chaos and stuff like that.
• 2:22:41
  And I don't. I'm not about all that, but just
• 2:22:44
  what? You're talking about but.
• 2:22:45
  Oh, you know, but just know that your girl has been working on a
• 2:22:49
  lot of things and one day hopefully you know, something
• 2:22:54
  will come of it. But.
• 2:22:55
  Hopefully, and if anybody tells you that they're working on a
• 2:22:58
  documentary, they have to get certain things approved.
• 2:23:03
  Anyway, you guys have a great night.
• 2:23:06
  OK, wow, we are going to On that note, I hope that everybody has
• 2:23:13
  an amazing night and that you go out and do something good to
• 2:23:17
  change the world for the better and don't be like Gypsy Rose
• 2:23:20
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• 2:23:24
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