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Domonique Foxworth on NFL Week 2 Expectations, Deshaun Watson's Delusion, Robert Kraft vs. Macklemore | 09.17 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time presented by
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  Speaker 1: a hater. It is Foxworth Thursday. W. Foxworth, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Not much, man.
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy we can get it in before this Thursday
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  Speaker 3: night game. We can talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, for the people who are noticing, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: your boy done come back. We're going to have more
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  Speaker 1: Dominique than we had before. The single best thing to
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  Speaker 1: happen to this show in the last year. Just throw
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  Speaker 1: that out there. We are always glad to have you.
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  Speaker 2: And he's right. We got a Thursday night game.
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  Speaker 1: See, we used to record these on Thursday with a
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night game, and then it didn't come out until Friday,
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  Speaker 1: which always made things a little bit weird.
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  Speaker 2: But now that we've changed the schedule, we lose the alliteration. But.
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  Speaker 1: Where it's early in the season. So the Thursday night
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  Speaker 1: games are still intriguing. It isn't really until like week
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  Speaker 1: eight or nine that it's kind of like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: even want to watch that.
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  Speaker 3: I realized that I was excited to have the opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to talk to you about the Thursday night games. But
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  Speaker 3: as you were talking, it also reminded me that.
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  Speaker 2: Those constraints aren't always good for us.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes when we feel like we have to stay on
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  Speaker 3: some sort of subject, we don't get to the good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll get used to the new patterns. Don't you worry.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about Israel-Palestine before it's all over. We got time.
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  Speaker 2: There's room for it.
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  Speaker 3: Yay!
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  Speaker 2: Bob Craft made it football. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: We'll get there. And I tell you this, that's a
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  Speaker 2: motherfucking cliffhanger right there. It's a bunch of people like,
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  Speaker 2: will this be the day? And the answer is no. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, hopefully it won't be the day that I
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  Speaker 2: do it either. No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: It's a team effort, baby. Teamwork makes the dream work.
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  Speaker 1: One thing you know about me, dog, I ain't going
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  Speaker 1: to let you go out like that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no. I trust you. You looked out for me
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  Speaker 2: in the past. I know you look out for me
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  Speaker 2: in the future.
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  Speaker 3: And, yeah, the decisions that are being made are not
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  Speaker 3: going to be made as a result of me doing
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  Speaker 3: anything dumb or my man letting me do anything dumb.
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  Speaker 2: Nope, nope. Not for clicks. Not for clicks. Don't need
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  Speaker 2: it that bad.
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  Speaker 1: But we do have America's team, my guys, the Detroit Lions,
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  Speaker 1: tonight against... America's quarterback, shall we say, Josh Allen and
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  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. They are opening their new stadium in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: I find it a little weird to open the stadium
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  Speaker 1: on a Thursday. I would think that you would want
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  Speaker 1: that to be a Sunday. I don't know if they
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  Speaker 1: think that'll make more people want to watch it on.
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  Speaker 2: Television, but.
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  Speaker 1: Dominique, we were talking about this before the show, and
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  Speaker 1: this will be a theme of this show, which is
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  Speaker 1: teams playing for their seasons, because that's the thing that
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  Speaker 1: makes the NFL dope is it's not crazy to say
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  Speaker 1: in week two that a team is playing for their season.
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  Speaker 2: If you go down 0-2, it's really bad news.
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  Speaker 1: The history has indicated it's almost guaranteed that you're not
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  Speaker 1: going to win the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: If you go down 0-2, you're not going to go.
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  Speaker 1: The playoffs would be harder if they hadn't added that
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  Speaker 1: little extra participation team thing.
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  Speaker 2: On the end of it, you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: But like, it really matters.
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  Speaker 1: And both teams in this game were this close to
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  Speaker 1: this being a titanic clash of two teams playing for
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  Speaker 1: their seasons. If the Saints get that two-point conversion, and
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  Speaker 1: if the Texans don't drop that interception, this game is
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  Speaker 1: 0-1 versus 0-1. Instead, those other two teams will be
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  Speaker 1: playing for their seasons in games that we will discuss later. However,
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  Speaker 1: I came out of that game like, wow, Josh Allen
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  Speaker 1: looked really good considering they were playing against an awesome
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  Speaker 1: He did the Josh Allen thing of, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: give you a chance. I'm going to give you a
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  Speaker 1: chance and you just better catch it. And they didn't
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  Speaker 1: catch it. And then the next play he threw the touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, so the, the stakes we talked about last
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  Speaker 3: week of like how high the stakes are physically for
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  Speaker 3: the players. And this is also why football is so
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  Speaker 3: entertaining is like the drama is always there because right
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  Speaker 3: now the stakes for the teams can be incredibly high,
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  Speaker 3: not for these teams right now, because they're both one
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  Speaker 3: and Oh, barely, but, But you go.
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  Speaker 2: Into two, three-game skid and things looking quite dark.
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  Speaker 3: But, yeah, the Josh Allen situation, going back to watch
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  Speaker 3: that game, I saw they were, like, really successful on
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  Speaker 3: first down, which I think is, like, the secret key
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  Speaker 3: to why the Texans' defense is so good is they
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  Speaker 3: win first down, then they put you in a situation
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  Speaker 3: where the monster's going to come eat you alive on
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  Speaker 3: must-passing situations. And this team, they ran the ball surprisingly well. And,
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  Speaker 3: of course, the Josh Allen– Experience is going to be
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  Speaker 3: the Josh Allen experience. It's going to be more incredible plays,
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  Speaker 3: but there are going to be some opportunities. Anytime you're
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  Speaker 3: that aggressive in the way that he is, he's going
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  Speaker 3: to make some mistakes. But if you don't make him pay,
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  Speaker 3: he came right back the next play. And the safety
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  Speaker 3: came down to, like, double on a tight end, and
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  Speaker 3: he ripped it. Perfect pass to score a touchdown. You
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  Speaker 3: can't mess around with guys like that.
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  Speaker 2: We really would.
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  Speaker 3: When I was with the Ravens, worse than giving up
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  Speaker 3: a big play was dropping an interception or missing a sack.
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  Speaker 3: Like those missed opportunities, people would be so mad at
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  Speaker 3: you for that because you're going to get beat.
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  Speaker 2: They're good.
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  Speaker 3: But when you get a chance, you get a chance
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  Speaker 3: to turn the tide of the game. You got you
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  Speaker 3: got to get it done.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it is so much to ask somebody to not
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  Speaker 1: drop an interception. Like conceptually, think about what an interception is.
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  Speaker 2: Catching something that wasn't thrown to you.
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  Speaker 1: Right? Like, you are actually doing a completely different job
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  Speaker 1: until this interception opportunity comes, and now you are converting
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  Speaker 1: to a player of a literal different position to do
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  Speaker 1: something that is far more specific. I always say, what
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  Speaker 1: a random way to make a million dollars. How do
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  Speaker 1: you make a million dollars? Know something, man.
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  Speaker 2: Watch. Watch what I do.
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  Speaker 3: And it's in the split second, and I know that
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  Speaker 3: people make fun of DBs for saying that they don't
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  Speaker 3: have hands, and Obviously, receivers can catch better, but DBs
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  Speaker 3: can catch. If you haven't been to a practice, they
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  Speaker 3: can catch. The reason why it's hard is because you.
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  Speaker 2: Look up and you're like, oh. It's like, it's really hard.
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  Speaker 2: And you saw Lassiter turn around in his own, the
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  Speaker 2: thing on his chest.
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  Speaker 3: He's just like, that's the hard part about it is,
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  Speaker 3: to your point, switching your mindset in less than a second.
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  Speaker 2: And we looking at you like, way to go. Come on.
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  Speaker 2: There it was right there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels that way too because it is an
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  Speaker 3: easy play, but you made the point. That's the biggest
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  Speaker 3: one is that it's just a complete turnover in your
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  Speaker 3: mind frame in less than any amount of time that
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  Speaker 3: anybody can process anything. And I think the expectations, those
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  Speaker 3: are the guys who have the best hands and the
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  Speaker 3: best ball skills.
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  Speaker 2: They can catch.
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  Speaker 3: They got big hands. They can track the ball well,
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  Speaker 3: but also they're expecting to catch it. Every time they're
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  Speaker 3: out there, they're expecting to catch it. And there ain't
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  Speaker 3: much of them like that that are expecting to catch
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  Speaker 3: it or can turn over that quick.
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  Speaker 2: Just like, I know this is going to happen. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to grab it.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I told you once, the most ridiculous thing about football,
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  Speaker 1: it's not even so hard how hard people be hitting,
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  Speaker 1: is that I'm supposed to withstand that hit without dropping
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  Speaker 1: that thing I got in my hand. It's such an
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  Speaker 1: absurd thing to ask of somebody. And I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: look at you, funny, if you drop it. I'll add
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  Speaker 1: a level to that absurdity. Not only are you supposed.
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  Speaker 3: to catch it and hold on to it while somebody's
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  Speaker 3: hitting you, you supposed to line up and do it again.
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  Speaker 2: Go back out there.
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  Speaker 3: Have you?
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  Speaker 2: And that's the thing that to me, when I stepped
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  Speaker 2: away for a little bit, I got injured.
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  Speaker 3: Then I came back and I was watching from the sideline.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the thing that jumped out.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, holy shit. They out there hitting. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: they did it again.
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  Speaker 3: When you on the field, it feels slightly different. And
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  Speaker 3: I know we've talked about this before. what it feels
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  Speaker 3: like to stand on the NFL sideline. And honestly, what
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  Speaker 3: it feels like to stand on any football sideline. I
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  Speaker 3: was at my son's game. He's, what is he, 13
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  Speaker 3: years old right now. And every play ain't cracking, but
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  Speaker 3: there's a couple boys out there that's going to crack.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're standing close enough to the sideline, you're like, oh, ooh.
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  Speaker 3: And if you play on the NFL sideline or a
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  Speaker 3: college sideline, just one time, everybody should get the privilege
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  Speaker 3: of standing next to it and see what's happening.
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  Speaker 1: I stood on a Division II sideline in 2005 and
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  Speaker 1: could not believe what I was watching.
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  Speaker 2: A legendary Jones family.
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  Speaker 1: Story was my brother, I guess he was going towards
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  Speaker 1: seventh grade or something like that, I forget what year,
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  Speaker 1: but he was thinking about playing football. And my mother
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  Speaker 1: was on the faculty at Clark College, which is part
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  Speaker 1: of what is now Clark Atlanta University. And she got
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  Speaker 1: him to let them come stand on the sideline and
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  Speaker 1: watch the game, right? So they stood on the sideline,
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  Speaker 1: watched the game, and she said the day was walking back.
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  Speaker 1: And nobody was saying anything about brother.
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  Speaker 2: Who is not small. Right. My brother stopped, looked at
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  Speaker 2: her and said, you know, I think I'll just be
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  Speaker 2: in the band. That's what I got. I tell a story.
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  Speaker 2: It was 2008.
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  Speaker 1: It was the first time that I had covered a
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  Speaker 1: division one football game. And so it was Carolina against
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  Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. And this has been TJ Yates was the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: He got hurt, I want to say, in the second
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  Speaker 1: or third quarter.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Next play, they brought in Mike Paulus, Greg Paulus' brother,
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  Speaker 1: who was a very big-time quarterback recruit. First play, handed
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  Speaker 1: the ball to Greg, literally runs like 40-something yards for
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown, right? Then after that, again, this is Virginia
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  Speaker 1: Tech with their vaulted defenses.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, they turned it up on that boy.
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  Speaker 2: And then I went down on the sideline for the
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  Speaker 2: last drive of the game. And... i don't know how anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Is expected to complete a forward pass in a football
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  Speaker 1: game in the time that is actually and truly allotted
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  Speaker 1: to you to make that pass that swarm that just
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  Speaker 1: was around him at every turn i was like oh
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  Speaker 1: i misunderstood but this game this is whoa this is nuts.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not somebody who's like you have to be able
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  Speaker 3: to do it to be able to criticize it like
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you have to do that I think
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  Speaker 3: some people like former players get mad uh at analysts
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  Speaker 3: who are like you have to criticize it but I
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  Speaker 3: do think that you have to have some healthy level
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  Speaker 3: of respect and like every now and then When you
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  Speaker 3: get out over your shoes, and this happens to me too,
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  Speaker 3: I'm criticizing quarterbacks and it's easy because you see it
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  Speaker 3: and you see what happens. Somebody open and they don't
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  Speaker 3: get it to them and you know that that's what's
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  Speaker 3: supposed to happen and we all see it. But every
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  Speaker 3: now and then, you need to be reminded, going down there,
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  Speaker 3: just stand in a pocket. Just see what it feel
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  Speaker 3: like for a hot second to have to decide and
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  Speaker 3: deliver a pass in less than two seconds.
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  Speaker 1: It's the only job in football where you're expected to
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  Speaker 1: hold the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And do something else.
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  Speaker 1: It's not simply you got the ball, so now you're
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  Speaker 1: running to stay safe. Hold the ball, think about some shit,
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  Speaker 1: consider some possibilities. It's all about standing facing the wrong
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  Speaker 1: way on the highway.
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  Speaker 3: I told Lanae a long time ago, she's a writer,
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  Speaker 3: she was writing something and we were talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Blackness.
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  Speaker 3: And I was saying how blackness is being two things
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  Speaker 3: at once.
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  Speaker 2: All the time. It's like you're always.
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  Speaker 3: Part of whatever it is that you're doing, another part
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  Speaker 3: of it is being Black.
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  Speaker 2: I assume.
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  Speaker 3: that I've never played quarterback at a high level. I
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  Speaker 3: played in high school. I assume it's the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: When they're trying to kill you, and at the same time,
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  Speaker 3: you're not just trying to stay alive. You have to
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  Speaker 3: process what's happening down the field and then deliver an
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  Speaker 3: accurate pass, and you wonder why we can't find 32
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  Speaker 3: of them. Right.
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  Speaker 2: It's fucking hard. This game has a serious construction issue.
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  Speaker 1: You should not have any position that exists, and there
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  Speaker 1: aren't enough people who are capable of doing it to
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  Speaker 1: fill out a league.
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  Speaker 2: Just the top line. There aren't 32 people who can
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I want to stay on this game, though, because
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  Speaker 1: my guys, the Detroit Lions, I felt like Buffalo should
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  Speaker 1: have come out of their game optimistic. I did not
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  Speaker 1: feel that way as a fan of the Detroit Lions.
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  Speaker 1: I did not come out of that game feeling very
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  Speaker 1: good at all. I also didn't feel like while I
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  Speaker 1: was playing it, while I was watching it, that they
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  Speaker 1: played badly, necessarily.
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  Speaker 2: But, because.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how it's going to end up for
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  Speaker 1: the Saints, and their quarterback is old, but there's something there.
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  Speaker 1: I think that there's great cause for optimism, but Detroit
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  Speaker 1: should not be playing home games against the Saints, and
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  Speaker 1: it comes down to the end like it did there.
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  Speaker 1: Playing in the division that they play in, that they
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  Speaker 1: finished in last place last year, and they were not
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  Speaker 1: a bad team, but somebody's going to have to finish
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  Speaker 1: in last, and it might be y'all again.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to, some of these results are hard to
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  Speaker 3: draw anything from because we're not quite sure if it's
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  Speaker 3: because one opponent was good or one opponent was really bad.
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  Speaker 3: That's why the Bills result feels like something substantive because
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  Speaker 3: it's like, we know the Texans, Texans defense is good.
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  Speaker 3: If you guys can be in a game with the Texans,
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  Speaker 3: whether you win or lose, like I feel like you
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  Speaker 3: can feel good as a Bills fan at the end
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  Speaker 3: of that game. Like your defense ain't fixed, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: that it felt like the change that wanted to be made,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm reading into this a little bit, but the
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  Speaker 3: change that Josh Allen seemingly wanted to be made was
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  Speaker 3: we got to be more aggressive on offense. And turnovers
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  Speaker 3: be damned, if we get them, we get them. Because
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  Speaker 3: in the past, it felt like with a defensive-minded coach,
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  Speaker 3: they wanted to protect their defense. And it feels like
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  Speaker 3: the reason why Joe Brady got promoted is because Josh
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  Speaker 3: is like, we ain't going to win like that. Them
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  Speaker 3: boys ain't going to be able to stop people. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to give it back every now and then, but
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  Speaker 3: fuck it, I'm going to throw three more than I
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  Speaker 3: give to them.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the way they're going to approach it. Well, one,
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  Speaker 2: that's late stage Brett Favre. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's important to know the rules are different,
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  Speaker 1: so guys don't throw as many interceptions as they used
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  Speaker 1: to for a number of reasons or whatever. But there
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  Speaker 1: was a point post-prime Brett Favre, and prime Brett Favre
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  Speaker 1: might be the best quarterback I've ever seen. But after that,
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  Speaker 1: where he had just made that, this is the way
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  Speaker 1: we're going to play football, right? Like I see my
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  Speaker 1: buddy Nick make this point about Josh Allen and a
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  Speaker 1: few other people that, Yolo ball is probably going to
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  Speaker 1: be the best way for them to go about this.
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  Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, who you must remember was the defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: when Cam Newton played for the Panthers and he saw
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  Speaker 1: Cam Newton as the problem. Like this, this is not
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  Speaker 1: something I'm making up, right? Like that was the mentality
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  Speaker 1: that he had. If it's going to be like this
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  Speaker 1: for Buffalo, it's going to be fun, right? It's going
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  Speaker 1: to be, your mileage may vary from game to game.
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  Speaker 1: That is correct, but it's going to be fun. And
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  Speaker 1: with Detroit, they're going to have to figure something like
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  Speaker 1: that similar because they're going to give up a gang
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  Speaker 1: of points, a gang of points.
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  Speaker 3: And they have a quarterback who's an incredible point guard,
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  Speaker 3: but he has one of the best arms in football,
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  Speaker 3: but he's not the guy that's like in that Brett Favre,
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen move. And Brett Favre and Josh Allen, I
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  Speaker 3: think are similar in a bunch of ways, but I
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  Speaker 3: have to give credit for Josh Allen, even though some
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  Speaker 3: of the passes he throws don't make sense.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: You can see that he understands defense.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: That's the difference with Brett Favre is I'm realizing is
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: that you think that you have to be super smart
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: to play quarterback. I think the problem is you can't
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: be in the middle. I think that's the problem. You
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: can't be in the middle. Cause Brett would go out
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: there and like, all right, I'm throwing it here. No
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: matter what, there's going to be no processing. I'm just
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: going to throw it so hard and so accurately that
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: it don't matter if you've got it covered or not.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: And sometimes you're going to get a hand on, it's
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: going to be a turnover.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: And that, just dumb enough to play the position is
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: almost better than being in the middle. If you're really
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: smart and you process fast, it's great. If you're not, you're.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Just like, I'm going to rip that shit.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: But I think for real, though, the big thing is
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: whatever decision you're going to make, you just got.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: To do it. The importance of that.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: So, for example, I don't think any of us ever
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: would have cheated on Dan Marino's paper, for example. Dan
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Marino had some run, as I recall, of something like
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: 16 straight games without being sacked once. The only one
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: of those linemen that's in the Hall of Fame is
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Dwight Stevenson, the center, right?
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: That was about Dan Marino. I see it. I throw it. Boom.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: This is just whatever decision it is that you're going
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: to make.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: You just got to make it. It reminds me of Shaq,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: where it's like, hey, he's special, man. It's not going
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: to be the footwork of Hakeem, but it's going to work, right?
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: And it's the technique of these guys is... Or at
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: least the execution is different. It's one of those guys
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: that you just don't have to coach in a way
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: that you think you have to coach everybody else. It's
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: not a whole, like, if-then equation that you have for
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: other quarterbacks. Like, if this guy comes down, then you
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: do that. Like, the Peyton Manning, I feel like, is
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: the pinnacle of, like, the intellectual quarterback.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. These Neanderthals, they can make it work, too. And
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: by the way, that would get Peyton Manning in trouble
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: in those playoffs. Absolutely. The truth is this. There is
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: room for processors. There is room for reactors. Thinkers. Like
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I'm a thinker. I'm a thinker.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I'd be back there like, hold on, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: It's funny because when I do this job, I am
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: a reactor, right? In this job, all the moving parts
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: that are going on, whatever it is, I know it
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: don't seem like much maybe to people who are listening,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: but I got to let people know I'm running point
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: at all times, especially if I got somebody else on.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I'm figuring out when we're going to bring this in,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: when we're going to go to this place, whatever it is.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not thinking. I'm just going. Man, if you would
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: get me out there, I'd be back there counting. Now,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: hold on one second. One, two, three, four, five. Oh, okay.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: There we go. There's the mic right there. Wait, wait. Okay,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: there he is right there. Then we get back there. Okay,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Slow up, guys.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Slow up, guys. Give me just one second. Give me
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: just one second. No, no, no. That's not what this is. It's, oh,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: that's what I'm going to do, and I'm going to
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: do it right now. Go. Yeah, it's a different type
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: of situation.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I think that was– I've talked about this a couple
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: times on other shows, but I think that was my
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: problem at cornerback. Like, I was a good corner, but
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I had, like, the athleticism to be up there with
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: some of the best. But I wasn't there because I
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: was a thinker, and it was like, all right, I
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: know in this situation, this is what they want to do.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: I need to sit on this. But if I sit
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: on it and it's not what they did, it's a touchdown.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: All right, let's be safe. Let's be safe.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Let's be safe. Let's tackle it. Let's tackle it. Let's
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: tackle it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Every now and then I would, I would play the
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: game in a way that's like, I'm gonna wait for
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: you to make a mistake rather than I talked to
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: champ a couple of days ago and he was saying
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: how I used to keep everything in front of me.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: It's like, God damn right.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I live my life that way too. I live my
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: life that way too. I want to keep it all
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: in front of me, man. I want to keep it
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: all in front of me. I ain't gambling.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I ain't doing none of that.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: And that was like, don't break. I lived my life
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: at a bend, but don't break, man. I couldn't play
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: that way. I played that way and it got me
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: far enough. But I think the difference in other guys
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: was not with exception of players like chant was not
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: that they were more athletic or physically gifted than I was,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: but they were comfortable with living with the result.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: They had that breath of in them. Like, Fuck it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Y'all going to win some, but I'm going to win more.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: The Houston Texans are playing against the Cincinnati Bengals with
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow with his annual ailment.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Texans playing for their season.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: And I feel like if they're playing for their season,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: by extension, Stroud is playing for his future. Because he
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: was good in that game, except for those two plays
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: where he wasn't.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: The interception, they gave it up early, gave it up late.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: And those last two sacks, they suck because, like, they
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: say sacks is a quarterback stat. But when you got
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: to have a situation, you can't quite get rid of
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: the ball if ain't nobody open. And I think there's
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: another level of quarterback play that we kind of hinted
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: on with the Brett Favre thing. But I think I
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: would point to Trevor Lawrence as doing some of this
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: last week, too, where it's and I saw Bo Nix
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: having an inability to.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: To do this, is sometimes.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: They got the right play called, but you got to
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: give your guys a chance and put it in a spot.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: And Trevor Lawrence had that one touchdown between four guys
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: where it's like you can't even see the receiver. but
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: he put it in a spot back there to give
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: people a chance. And sometimes you have to put it
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: in a spot that it's not going to get turned
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: over and you can't wait for the play to develop
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: and people to be open.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this Andre Johnson got all of them about the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: body language, which is a thing.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I don't think that he's wrong. I do. I don't
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: know if he had to say it already. Yeah. You
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: And then Stroud is kind of, Stroud ain't the type
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: to respond well to those sorts of things.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Right? But it's right.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: You're the guy in charge here.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: You got to look like you got it under control.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: But what if you don't feel like you do? I know.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I don't generally advocate lying, but... Fake it till you
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: make it. Hey, man, you got to do it sometimes.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: And look, this is.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: The Bengals sound a lot like what we're saying about
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Buffalo and Detroit. They just going to have to try
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to beat people by scoring a gazillion points.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. I mean, their D-line has improved.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: They got a bunch of turnovers in this game, which
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: is not something that you can replicate. I'm not sure
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: that they really stopped the Bucs a ton, but they
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: got the ball back a bunch early and then shifted
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: the game script in a way that was advantageous. Their
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: D-line did look good, but I don't think that they
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: solved their defensive problems. The problem with them relying on
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, and we give Joe Burrow a lot of
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: credit because he won that championship.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: He went to the Super Bowl, of course.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Um, he, he seems to be, uh, a socially conscious
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: guy when he talks, he comes off as a guy
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: who's aware of things and we don't put that Jackson
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: dart on him, but yeah, he owes ball too long.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: And he tried to run through people like he, we
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: don't need. And that's the thing is I, I value
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: a quarterback like Baker will do this sometimes where you
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: run through somebody, you get up and you get high.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: That's a body language thing that I think has value. Joe,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: you pass that Joe. And early in that game, he
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: was running. And I was sitting next to Teddy Bruschi
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: and across from Randy Moss watching this game. And when
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Joe ran, it was early in the game, first court,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: he ran and got blown up out of bounds. And
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Teddy Bruschi and all three of us looked at each other.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Teddy Bruschi said, that's his throwing shoulder. And we ain't
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: say nothing about it. The rest of the game, nothing happened.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: We just kind of like, yeah, he got to be careful.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Lo and behold, today, we start reading the news. They
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: start showing that same damn play. Joe, you can't do that.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: You ain't built for that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what makes him good, he is, like, one of
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the things that we try to give Shaduris Sanders credit
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: for is his willingness to stay in the pocket. Like,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: it's a thing, the willingness to do that. Now, with
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Sanders in college, it didn't necessarily result in big plays,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: but when you want a glass half full, you're like, oh,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: he's patient in the pocket.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: That's the thing with Joe Burrow.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: He'll stay back there and he'll move and he'll move
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: like he doesn't stay still. Right.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: And he makes positive movements in the pocket.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: But he will wait and he will wait and he
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: will wait.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And at some point, man, a big motherfucker is going
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: to come take you out.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And he's going to it's going to pay off
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: the problem. One of the problems with Joe Burrow is
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: he doesn't have that arm that you would want. And
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I think that he is trapped in a situation where
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: teams do play the too high kind of shell. And
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: in order to create explosive plays in that. situation on schedule.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: You got to be able to rip it cross field into,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: into holes. And I don't think he has the arm
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: strength to do that. So rather than do that, he'll
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: buy time and try to make your coverage break down
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: to create those big plays. And it's, it's similar to
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen taking shots downfield. He might, he might win
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: three out of four times, but that fourth time is
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: going to add up. If it happened three times a game,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: for six, seven, eight weeks in a row. And it's
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: added up time and time again in his career. And
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: it's already started in week one. He's already a bit
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: shaken up.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, home alone looking at, I don't know.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I just thought about that. Now we got also Tampa
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Bay and Cleveland. It doesn't feel like the Tampa Bay
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: is playing for their season, right? Like that's a division
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that is winnable. Todd Bowles played for his job. Baker
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: just got his money. So it's just kind of whatever Cleveland.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, Are you playing for your season when your
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: season's over before it started?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Did you see that clip of Joe Thomas talking about the.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Moment that he realized he spent 10 years fooling himself
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: thinking that the Browns could win and how it just
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: shook him to the core of his soul?
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: For those who haven't seen it, it was really like
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: a sad, touching moment.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: But he's doing this interview and he talks about they
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: played a game against the Patriots when he was playing
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: for the Browns and they lost 30 to nothing. And
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: he played a perfect game. And he said his wife
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: asked him if he was sad about it. Wife asked
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: him if he played a bad game. He said, no,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: he played a perfect game and that broke him. He
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: realized that every year for 10 years he had been
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: walking in convincing himself that those guys could win a
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: championship only to realize he could play perfectly and he
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: didn't matter. He's a Hall of Fame player and how
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: well he played didn't matter. And it just made him cry.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Lucky for the Browns, they don't have any Hall of
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Fame players. Miles Garrett has other things to cry about
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: as of now. What they do have is a Hall
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: of Fame team. Your boy Nasty D. I just don't know, like,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the level of narcissism that he possesses to just not
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: understand that you can't be saying the stuff that he
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: be saying. So this time he talked about how the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: media won't be happy unless he throws for, what, 400
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: yards or five touchdowns or something like that. Did you
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: know he hasn't thrown for 300 yards once since he
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: came to the Browns? Not a single time. And he
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: keep talking about how people don't treat him right.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: How does nobody has told him you can't do this.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't think I would have connected the
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Joe Thomas thing to the Deshaun Watson thing. If it
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: wasn't for the fact that you put them right next
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: to each other, but there is a level of delusion
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: that is required to play this game.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: And there's a level of delusion that Joe Thomas needed
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: to put up with that for 10 years. And I
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: think the same is true. In a lot of players,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: if not all players, there's some level of delusion. And
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: then the delusion is reinforced by you having some success.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: And you combine that delusion with, I think, the human
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: nature to blame other people and to feel sorry for
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: yourself as.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: You end up where you are, where we are with
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson right now. And it ain't good. They need
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: to move him away from the microphone.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Or maybe they're fine with him talking on the microphone
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: because it gives us something to focus on and not
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: focus on how They lost by a damn near 30 points,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: and it seems like their franchise has given up on
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: the season already. The players haven't, I'm sure, but we're
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: at the week one. The first week of Todd Munkin's
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: head coaching career, and he already dipping into I ain't
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: going to fire myself.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: He said that. I ain't going to fire myself. We
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: there already? I did not see that. Why is firing
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: even on the table? Why anybody got to get fired?
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: You 0-1, man. The Rams are 0-1. Lots of people
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: are 0-1. I ain't going to fire myself.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Look, Tom Buck is like, this is my chance to
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: be a coach. He's in that situation. That dude in
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Miami is in that situation.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: A job.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be a head coach, but nobody wants
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: those jobs. Those are just the jobs that you have
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: to take in order to be a head coach, right?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: These are jobs like that. Although I still think when Bunkin, hey,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: number one, he sees the other guy play. So, you know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I have to trust that the people who are there
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: making the decisions know better than I do.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: But the other part is, as.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I forget who showed up, I think I was talking
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: to Stu.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Gatz about this yesterday.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, what's the most money that you have spent
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: on something that you just said, you know what, I
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: ain't even going to use.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: It no more? Because, I mean... They still paying the
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: note on it, right?
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is, we got McDonald's at home.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Like, no, we've already paid for this. We are going
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: to continue to use it. That's the perfect analogy. You're right.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Where it was like, nah, I paid for it. I'm
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: going to use it.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I agree that it don't work right, but I'm going
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: to get my money's worth out of this. I'm quicker
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: to give up on something than that.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: It's a sunk cost fallacy in the ultimate demonstration.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: It's not even a sunk cost fallacy because they aren't
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: chasing it with more investment. It's just like, we know
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: this suck. We know we don't like it, but I'm
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: going to wear this lime green suit to every shindig
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: just because I can't afford to buy another suit until
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: the draft come around.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Well, here's what the thing is. I understand the argument
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: that your fans hate it. Why are you going to
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: anger your fans?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: And if the Cleveland Browns weren't going to do things
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: that angered their fans, they would move the team again
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: because I don't know what they ever do that doesn't
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: make you guys unhappy. Like this is, I thought that's
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: just what y'all liked.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: I think they, and I think I'm not the first
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: person obviously to say this, that it feels like they
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: plan on bringing Shador in for that first home game,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: but they have orchestrated this in such a way that,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: that the fans are going to be overjoyed and thrilled
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: and celebrating this team when they come to town for
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: their first home game the following week from now. Because
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: it's no way that they march Deshaun Watson out there.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: They're going to go.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Nuts for Shador Sanders, which is an insane thing to
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: even think of if you go back to all the
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: conversation about Shador Sanders in the last year or so.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It was like all the way back to the draft.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I will make two points. If they bent you for
• 29:40
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• 29:44
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• 29:47
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• 29:50
  Speaker 1: who are playing for their seasons. Want to know who
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: had some really impressive statistics last week and a couple
• 29:55
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• 29:57
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• 30:01
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• 30:04
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• 30:06
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• 30:10
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• 30:11
  Speaker 1: That's the only thing he remembered from Phil.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: They're going to get to tailing green before the season
• 30:17
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• 30:20
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• 30:22
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• 32:00
  Speaker 1: are back with Dominique Foxworth. I feel like the Packers
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: are playing for their season, but I also feel like
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: they're playing against the Jets. And if it don't go
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: the way that I think it's going to go, then
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I'll be wrong, but we ain't really got.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: To talk about that. You know?
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: The Denver Broncos are playing for their season, and they're
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: playing against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: And they're doing it on a short week. Ugh. Davis Webb. Like,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: he went from the last... How long before Sean Payton
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: get that back? The.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: What might end up happening is he don't tell nobody,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: but he started to have some input. But actually, I
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: don't see Sean Payton as the I don't tell nobody
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: type of guy. Sean Payton is a, hey, Sean Payton
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: going to make an ass out of you. But yeah,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: it's not going to take long before it's turned over.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And from what I understand, Bo Nix was excited about
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: the Davis Webb switch.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: So everybody's going to be mad when he looked a
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: little too excited. He did.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: He looked like the Bo Nix I be telling people about.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: In the playoffs last year, he looked great. Like, he
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: was hitting intermediate routes that Sean Payton wouldn't let him
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: throw most of the year. And then, for whatever reason,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: in this game, they went back to, like, screens and bombs,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: and it was not working because the Chiefs was all
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: over it. And it did feel like Steve Spagnuolo was
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: taking Davis Webb's ass to school.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: It did feel like that. Yes.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: When you go back and look at the timing of
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: the blitz and the way he showed him something in
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: the first half, it just felt very much like Steve
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Olas was like, I've.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Been here, young buck. Watch this.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Look, I remember when I first started doing Highly Questionable
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: and we would do those interviews. And Dan Levitard was
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: gracious and kind enough to afford me the opportunity to
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: try to lead a couple of those interviews. And I
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: want to be very clear, it wasn't going very well.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: It wasn't going terribly, but he's really good at that, right?
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: And this is very important.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: He had a very clear idea of what he wanted
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: those interviews to be, right? And I would watch him
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: in the course of.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Them, getting a little anxious over there, And then now
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: looking back on it, I could tell that somebody jumped
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: in his ear and was like, go ahead, big fella.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Take care of this.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: And then he would come in and he would bring
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: it home with all his questions that he would, you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: so what's the worst moment of your life, right? Like
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: he just jumped in on the script where he needed
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: to go and he got it done. And then it
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: was just like, okay, cool.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: You go ahead and leave the interviews. It's fine, right?
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Like this is what you need to do.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I wish we could get a whole cam of Sean
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Payton in that game where I imagine he's just over
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: there Try to, you know, like, try to keep his hands,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: do another stuff, try to think about other things.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Let me go help with the defense right fast. I
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: ain't even going to look at this because he's going
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: to keep on calling them plays so bad.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I don't got Sean Payton as trying not to do that.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: I got Sean Payton cussing in the headset. Like, who's that?
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Why can't we? Yeah, like.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: No, that week he's trying not to. Like, that week
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: he's consciously trying. Trying not to.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: When he went into the locker room, they asked him
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: how he felt about not calling plays.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: He said, talk to me in two quarters. Like, he
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: was already pissed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, man. Like,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: he's not. He can't do that. Andy Reid has tried
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: to give this up a few times, right?
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: And Sean Payton been a coach for a long time.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: He know how to deal with the media. John Payton
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: knew what question he was going to be asked, and
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: he knew how he was going to answer it. Chargers
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: is not on that sideline trying to bite his tongue.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: He's firing everybody's ass up soon. If it ain't happening yet,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: it's happening soon.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Chargers are playing against the Raiders. The Raiders are not
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: playing for their season, but the Chargers are. I'm just
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: going to say the Chargers should win that game, right?
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Let's just feel like you should. Miami, again, are you
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: playing for your season if you don't have a season?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: However... I feel like I have to say it all week.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet on the $ 40 this week because they
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: were coming back from playing a game on the moon.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: And then I realized they were playing the Dolphins, and
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: maybe I spoke a little hastily.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, this is your chance, Miami.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: This is your chance.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, we've brought up a number of times how
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: the Raiders beat the Patriots at the beginning of last season.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you got a chance to get some wins.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: You got to get some here and there.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Otherwise, you don't want to get the week eight, week nine,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: with no wins, and then we counting how many weeks
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: left before you join the Browns. Oh, the Browns in?
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Who else did that? Didn't the Lions do that? They
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: only had one win. They went defeated.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: The Lions went unwinnin'. Unwon. The Browns went 0-15-1. The
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Lions put up a solid 0-4. My sophomore year in high.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: School, We went one and nine. It was not good.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: It was not a good feeling.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: And the most embarrassing part was we won the last
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: game of the year and we was excited.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: We celebrated. How could you not? How could you not?
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: How could you not?
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, all 15 people who were still coming to games,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they was excited too.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all our mamas was very happy. Was it at
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: least at home? Yeah, it was at home. We didn't
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: have a home field though, so.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: It was, we used like the community college had a
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: field that we used.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: So it was not easy for people to get there.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: It was rough.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: And like, I had never been on a bad team before.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: And freshman year we on JV and we eight and
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: two balling. And all the sophomores moved up to varsity
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: and it was just us getting our ass killed.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Tough, tough break. Tough break.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Washington and Dallas are playing for their seasons. But I
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: feel like Dan Quinn is playing for his job. I'm
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out if it was good or bad
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: for them that the Lions didn't have any players left
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: in that playoff game and Washington won because it really
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago that it was the pinnacle of
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: optimism and Jaden Daniels was the one out of those guys.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: He looked bad to me on Sunday. You can tell
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, but I thought he and that
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: whole offense looked bad. But they were in it at
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the end.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I'll give them that part, but I didn't– I feel
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: like they're going to finish last in that division this year.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: And they went all in after they had that good
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: season in 24.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: They might finish last in the division. I think this
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: is about perspective. I thought they were going to be
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: worse than they were. So I didn't walk away from
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: that game saying they look bad. I think you're probably right.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: The O-line held up better than I anticipated, given that
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: reporters called it inoperable at times.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: That's an actual literal word.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the word that was literally used, and they
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: were going up against one of the best defensive fronts
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: in football.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: They operated.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: They scored some points. They were in the game at
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: the end. Their defense was much better than it was
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: last year. I still think Jaden's great. The question is,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: can you keep him healthy? I think he's going to
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: be fine no matter what going forward, but you're right
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: about Dan Quinn.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Coaching for his job.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: But this is as good an opportunity as you're going
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: to get because I went from Cowboys got a chance
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: to I'm all the way out on the Cowboys, man.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: You see, and I could be wrong, but when the
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: story of last season is your defense sucks, you spit.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: the whole off season addressing it. You spend the whole
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: off season talking about it by your draft, your free agents,
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: your coach hiring, all your preseason and camp is about.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: We got to fix this defense. We got to stop
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: the run. And then in week one, You at five
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: minutes to go in the game, you know they running
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: the ball.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: They know they running the ball. You can't stop it.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: That's hard for me to be able to just dismiss
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: as like, it's week one, it's extended preseason.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, they had a bad week. That's all you wanted
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: to do. That's it. Show these motherfuckers that we ain't
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: to be pushed around.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: We can stop the run. That was the pregame speech,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I guarantee it. And they huddled with the defense before
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: they went in to do the prayer. They was like, look,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: they said that we can't do nothing. We ain't show
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: up last year, but we got new boys.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: We the new boys. Watch what we do. They not
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: going to push us around. Then they got moved. That
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: hurt me. That broke my heart, man. It broke me. Yeah.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: It's all fair points. All fair points. I don't have
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: anything to say after that.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I'm going to need him to prove it to me.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I'm going to need him to prove it to me.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I'm out on them until they start stopping people.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Are we wasting any of our time on the Indianapolis Colts? Nope.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: How did you feel, though, about that version of the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Chiefs that apparently is going to hit people in the mouth?
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would expect if Mahomes.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Mahomes did not play especially well, which I think was
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: a reasonable expectation.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: We'll see how he looks in the middle of the year. However...
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: They were hammering, though. That looked like some Bill Parcells
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: shit out there.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Mahomes not playing well, I expected him to
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: not run well, and he did that well, which was
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: shocking to me. And the offense is still struggling to
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: throw the ball, which it has been for a while now.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Mahomes is still an incredible quarterback, but for whatever reason,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: he and the receivers can't consistently connect on anything. And
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: that one big play to Kelsey when, like, there's a
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: missed tackle on zero coverage, that's a big play, but
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I don't think you can rely on Travis Kelsey as
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: the explosive play guy. And also, like, I think this
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: was a great week one, but this is going to
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: be a difficult way for them to live their life
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: going forward is they're going to get all their explosive
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: plays from Kenneth Walker, and they're going to give Kenneth
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Walker 30 touches a game. It's a great win. But
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: that ain't the recipe, man. That is not the recipe.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: You have to do the smash mouth. And I think
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: that getting in a situation where teams are preparing to
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: stop a running attack when the quarterback is Patrick Mahomes,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I have to assume that that's going to work out
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: at some point. But I got to see him do it.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: I see him connect down the field with these passes. Otherwise,
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I don't see them. They're one of the teams that
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: it's only one thing that matters, right, is championships, like
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: winning a division or getting to the playoffs.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: We don't care.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I don't see them as a championship contender until they
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: figure out the passing game, which I have to think
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: that they will, but they just haven't in the past
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: three years.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Well, is Andy Reid losing his fastball?
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's worth considering. I mean, they've been a defensive-centric
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: team for the last few seasons. Like, the story of their...
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: team's success is they win or lose based on how
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: well their defense plays.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: And that was true in this game also.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Their offense was really explosive on the ground and ran
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: the ball well, but the defense really shut down the Broncos.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: And that's been the story of this team since they
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: traded Tyreek Hill away. This has been a team that's
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: like defense has been underrated, but like the biggest part.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: And then Mahomes also like converting crazy long third and
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: longs consistently.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I think that was two years ago. That's impressive.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Then last year, it all swallowed them up, and we
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: just saw a bad version of that team even before
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Mahomes got hurt. And this year, I have a hard
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: time imagining that they're just going to be a smash-mouth
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: team the whole season and have success. Some teams are
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: going to be able to stop that run, and they're
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: going to need to be able to punish people with
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: explosive plays.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: That reminds you just of what a beast Bill Belichick
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: was for all that time.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Like, they never, in that whole Brady-Belichick run, there was never–
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: One of those, like the Chiefs had last year.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Not even the year Brady got hurt.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: That was never one of those. The Rams are on
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Monday night, but the Rams are playing for their season.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: The Miles Garrett being hurt thing is, like, I think
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: that's no small thing. We'll see what Aaron Donald looks
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: like coming out of mouth balls. And I came away
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: thinking that the Giants may actually be good. And the
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Rams are coming back after playing that game in Australia.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Like, they could very... Look, that Australia game has potential
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: to mess up the whole season for them.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so first about the Rams, I think you're right.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of pressure on this team right now.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: I think we focus a lot on Myles Garrett in
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: the defense for obvious reasons, but I think we also
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: need to pay attention to Matt Stafford. We talk about,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I'm certainly not suggesting that this is true off an
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: MVP year that he just falls off a cliff, but
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: we do talk about that for certain types of players
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: and it's possible.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: That's on the board.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: At this age, this injury history that it's on the board.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I think we also can explain it away with the
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: travel and the unique situation. Like, yeah, that could have
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: been a bad week, but if we see it again,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: then we need to be aware that this offense may
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: not be able to operate the way that we expect
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: it to with Matt Stafford and Puka still incredible difference maker.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: They still can run the ball well. So it just
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: lowers the ceiling for, for this team and honestly lowers
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: the floor. this team is constructed defensively around having a
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: dominant defensive front. They want to play dime. They want
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: to have little guys behind and they think they can
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: survive that way because their D line is dominant. And
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: if their D line is not dominant, they're forced to
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: put their linebackers back on the field and their linebackers
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: are the weak part of it. So it's a chain
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: reaction that feels like this season could unravel for them
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: if they don't tighten up quick.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I said, I think I was talking about the Eagles,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: the Sixers and basketball earlier this year.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh man, They could be the Eagles'
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: dream team.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: They're like, oh, man, we adding this old dude.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, snap, we adding this old dude. Yeah. Don't always
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: work out that way.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't always work out. But, yeah, we
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: talked a bit about the Giants. The Giants, like I said,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: they look good, man.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that there are some things about
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: football that are always true. And if you can run
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: the ball the way that they run the ball– it's
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: going to raise your floor of.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: How competitive you can be.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: And this is one of those games where I think
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: that we need to see it against some other opponents
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: because it might just be that a Cowboys defense is
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: just that bad still. But I also think the one
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: thing that jumped off the screen for me was Jackson
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Dart was driving with both hands on the wheel with
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: a seatbelt on during the speed limit. Like, and it's
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: possibly because they were successful running the ball and the
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: defense wasn't terrible that he didn't feel like he had
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: to do something more, but there's going to come a
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: time when he going to have to take a hand
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: off and start doing something a little bit crazy out there.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: And that's, I think that'll be a measure of how
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: high their ceiling is, is what kind of quarterback Jackson
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Dart is. If he's able to throw the ball in
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: those situations, when the game script is turned against them,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: but that, That one went according to plan. It was
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: the exact game plan that I'm sure Harbaugh wanted to implement.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: And that's the benefit of having.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: This CEO-style coach just not focus on one side of
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: the ball or the other, is that his idea is
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: connecting the offense and defense. And we're going to play
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: defense this way. We're going to play offense this way.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: They're going to complement each other. And if something breaks down,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: we'll adjust. But nothing broke down in that game. They
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: complemented each other throughout the whole time. You wait for
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Dak to make a mistake and get that turnover. That's
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: all you need.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I want to throw something out here. Y'all want to
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: talk about it? It's cool.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I am intrigued by Bob Craft inadvertently shutting down the
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Ed Sheeran tour. You've seen this story. For those of
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: you who have not seen this story, do you remember Macklemore?
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like you have to... This is the thing
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I need to keep in mind about Macklemore. Apparently there's
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: a world where Macklemore is still a thing. I remember
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: it was that one year where Macklemore was out here
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: doing a thing, and he won the Grammy, and he
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: acted like he sent Kendrick a text message apologizing.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: The.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the right term to use
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: for it, but it's the sort of white behavior that
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: makes the other white.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: People really annoyed. Right? Is it pandering? Is that the
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: word that we're looking for? Yeah, I think that's accurate.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: It was pandering. Anyway.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: That was like 13, 14 years ago, something like that.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I ain't thought about Macklemore one time. What I have
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: been made aware of about Macklemore is that he is
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: a strident advocate of the Palestinian cause. And at a concert,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: he got on stage, and I'm paraphrasing here, but he
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: said that basically the criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitism,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: and then went on to say free Palestine. Bob Kraft,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: who is heavily invested in The anti-anti-Semitism cause. I know
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: that's redundant, but I can't think of no other way
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: to put it, right? Those commercials that you see during
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: the games about standing behind your Jewish friends and all
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: that stuff, that's Bob Kraft's money.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: This is his thing. Bob Kraft heard about.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Macklemore and then decided that that tour could not come
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: to his stadium where it had been scheduled to go
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: at Gillette Stadium and then found out that the other
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: NFL stadiums that were left on the Ed Sheeran-Macklemore tour,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: because Ed Sheeran's opening for Macklemore, the rest of those
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: stadiums will now not have the Ed Sheeran tour come through.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Ed Sheeran, I firmly believe, thought, damn, I got to
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: save this tour and tell Macklemore that he got to
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: be off the tour because Bob Kraft basically shook him
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: down to get Macklemore off the tour. I don't know
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: if Ed Sheeran expected Macklemore to run until. However, he
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: jumped right on the Internet and he told everybody what happened.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: And now there's only one person left on that tour.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: And that person is Ed Sheeran. And when I say
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: that Ed Sheeran is the only person left on that tour,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I mean his backup band quit the tour.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Ed, so.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: In that situation, I think you're Ed Sheeran and you
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: have some choices. Obviously, Ed Sheeran's a guy who's tried
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: to run the Republicans by sneakers, too. It's like, and
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not, I don't follow a bunch of like, like you,
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: I haven't thought about Ed Sheeran or Macklemore and forever.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: So like, I can't speak to all the things they've done,
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: but since I've read up on some of this stuff,
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: Ed Sheeran, we don't know where he stands and he
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: likes it that way.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: When you are put in a position like that, I
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: think it's, it's an obvious, it feels like the obvious
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: decision to do is save the tour. You're not hurting
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: nobody by moving somebody away. off the tour, who's hurting
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: the tour. But I always think that what you can
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: always fall back on is speaking is freedom of speech. Like,
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: if this is my guy that's on my tour, like,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: I think it's interesting, the question of what Ed Sheeran does.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: And I think if you're able to look at.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: This abstractly and not take into account what Macklemore was
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: speaking about, I think then you're weighing, how do I
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: keep this tour going versus.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Shut the tour down but what happened to Ed is
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: that people were like no what you're actually choosing is
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: how do I stand do I choose to stand against
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: genocide or do I choose to stand up for free
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: speech or not and that I think he didn't realize
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: what decision he was actually making or how people would
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: view his decision because I think he's right if somebody
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: get up on stage and say something stupid I'm like
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: you gotta get off the tour right But the problem
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: is by you kicking him off the tour, you're expressing
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: to people that you think what he said is stupid.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, he thought that he was playing the middle. Yeah.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Only to find out there is no middle. Right. Like
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lesson to be learned from the
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Democratic primaries of this election year. I've said two things
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I think have become clear.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: One of them.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Is that affordability is the political issue period. If you're
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: not talking about what people can afford, ain't nobody really
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: trying to hear you.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: That's number one. And number two is that the moral
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: issue of the day is what is happening in Gaza.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Like that is to this era of what the apartheid
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: discussion was in the 1980s, right? It is, it is,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: it is clearly there. It is top of mind for
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: people and it's become hugely clear in these primaries, right?
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: And Sheeran's thought was, man, this guy said the thing
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: that made somebody mad. I will now get the thing
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: out of here that made somebody mad and we'll keep going.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: And he didn't realize, forget about making the customers mad.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: We didn't even get to the customer part. You just
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: suffered a mutiny of your whole tour. Your backup band
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: for 10 years was like, no, we ride with this
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: right here.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: What struck me about it.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Is Kraft put out a statement That sounded far more
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: reasonable than I think his actions would have indicated, like
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: the no, you can't do this in my stadium.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, I'd love to talk to Michael
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: more about this. Right. Like all these things. But he
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: called what the man said, hate speech. And that's where
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Regardless of where you fall on this issue, if that
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: counts as hate speech, baby, we can't talk about nothing.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Like that is the argument that Kraft is making is
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: that there's literally no room for disagreement on this one.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Because the statement free Palestine, I've talked to Jewish people
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: who believe that Palestinians need to be free from Hamas.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Like, you could even spun it that way if you
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: wanted to. Like, there's a whole lot of room in this.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: And he, and McElmore thought he had made it easy.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: He was like, hey, man, I still ride for my
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Jewish brothers. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about this.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: And they're like, nah. The craft is like, nah, you
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: talking about me. And so if you can't even say
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: that much, then ooh, ooh, tricky play. But you know
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: who's messing it up for him, Dominique? That boy Kanye.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Kanye is the, cause Kanye's back. I don't think we've
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: talked about this enough. Kanye had a very long stretch
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: of time where he really could not book like legitimate
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: venues because nobody would book him because he had talked
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: so crazy.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I forget how.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Long ago it was, but not too, not too long ago.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: You remember he put out that apology that was in
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the wall street journal. He quietly said, I wasn't paying
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: attention because I thought he was beyond redemption at that point.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: But he began the apology tour and apparently it worked
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: and was directed to the right people because he could
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: go back to booking some of these venues. And so
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I know at least one, I know definitely Dallas, I
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: think it's a couple of these other venues that have
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: decided they were going to cancel Macklemore are going to
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: have shows by a dude who did a song called
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Hail Hitler. And the argument is that you're not having
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: the Ed Sheeran McLemore tour because it's anti-Semitism. But Kanye
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: somehow is forgiven for hail Hitler. I hadn't seen him
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: apologize that goddamn much.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Like maybe this has happened in places and I just
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: wasn't paying enough attention. I don't know what channels he
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: went through, but it becomes difficult to make the argument
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: that this is about anti-Semitism. There's a difference between saying
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: this about anti-Semitism than saying, no, this is about that war.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: And if your cause is anti-Semitism, I think people are
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: down to listen to you. If your cause is a war,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: you're not going to win that one. Because there are
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: enough people who are just violently opposed to war as
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: its own idea.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: What jumped out to me about reading Robert Kraft's statement
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: was that was his first statement. It read to me,
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: like a second statement correcting an original first statement that
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: was too harsh right like because it had so much
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: room and understanding for the broader picture but still asserted
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: something that it felt like those two things can't exist
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: in one person's head at the same time right is
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: it feels like you can't be like this is anti-semitism
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: but also i understand and appreciate and stand for all this.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Like that's to me was the unusual part is that
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: he's aware. And when this first happened, I started thinking like,
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: all right, I know what happened. This is about living
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: in silos and having people these views reinforced to you
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: to a point where you believe something that you, that
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: another side believes something completely opposite. You guys are somehow
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: living in the same world, but consuming a different diet
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: and as do with the people you surround yourself with
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: and the things that are important to you. And I
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: was like, that's obvious. He just don't understand or they
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: just don't understand what's happening on the other side.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: But when you read the.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Statement, it's like, whoever wrote this, It's clear about what
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: to say to try to defend against the idea that
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: you are pro-genocide.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Which is what it comes down to.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: And that's the part to me that was unusual to
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: have a statement that both says this is hate speech and...
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: recognizes the plight and the understanding for a need of
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: like that to me that is a good point that
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: to me was like it was about as i'm reading
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: it from sentence to sentence it was bouncing me back
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: and forth like oh no you get.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: It oh no you don't yeah like that's what i'm
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: saying it seemed it didn't seem as the statement makes
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: craft seem not nearly as strident right as the action.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: But you're right.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I think that is a great way to put it.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Give us the Google Doc and we can go track
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: the edits and see what they had to say. No,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: we're not going to put that in there, baby. Let's
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: take that whole paragraph out. It's also a really long statement.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: It is because you got to get all that shit
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: That's why. And I can understand the desire to put
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: on for your city, essentially. I experience that myself all
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: the time. where if something happening, I got to get
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: out here and let these people know that I stand
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: with my people.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Like I get that.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: And that came across too, where he's including all these
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: other like capitulations to another argument, but he's also like,
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: I stand. Like it felt like he wanted to be
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: able to go back and see and say, see, I
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: told him, I told him, right guys? But also still
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: be like, no, but I understand. Please keep coming to
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: the stadium and buying these tickets.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me tell you something though. Sports better get ready.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Because like I mentioned, the apartheid angle of this.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Al Shayer of the Texans had put the little Palestinian
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: girl's name in his eye black, and he got fined. See,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: this is where people don't get this about the NFL.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: The NFL is smart in there.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: You can't say nothing, because they don't have to get
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: out here and speak to the hypocrisy of anything.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: They're like, nope.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: If you do any little thing that we say you
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: can't do, you're getting fined.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: There's nothing to talk about, right? It's across the board.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: But did you see?
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: He said that he would pay Al Shayer's fine for this.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Go on, tell him. King crossover himself, Kyrie Irving.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Kyrie, look, I've been saying for a long time, boy,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Kyrie been over there being chill. not saying nothing crazy,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: not saying anything out of hand. I tell you, every
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: now and then he'd show up with the keffiyeh. Like,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I think he'd be coming to work and they'd just
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: be trying to hope that shit chilled. He'd be coming
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: to work and they'd be looking at him and be like, hey,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: nice scarf, dog. Hey, look, anyway, let's just keep it moving, right?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: But it ain't for so much longer he gonna be
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: able to keep watching this stuff on television and God
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: knows what he's seeing on the internet. I would pay
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: to see Kyrie's algorithm. There is no telling. But this
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: is the moral issue of the day. This is going
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: to pop up in ways and fashions. And it is
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: in this election year where, again, a significant portion of
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: the electorate.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Is stating what side they're on.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: And it's not the side that people have been on
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: for the last 60, 70 years in this country. Like
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: the people who are standing on the side of the Palestinians,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: they are more vocal and they are becoming more mainstream and.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, they need to be.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Lucky that we had an era of rap that the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: only rapper going for this one is Macklemore.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Think about that for a second.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: They done beat all the revolution out.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Of the rappers.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: And somehow I think Drake might be the only one
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: that put anything in his songs that reference anything about
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: that when he taking shots at Khaled.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: And I think he had like a.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Free free um gaza in one of his recent songs
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: that i read in one of these art articles except
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: people are believing that that it could be it could
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: be in reference to some caribbean area that also calls
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: themselves gaza but yeah i'll forward you the article that
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: says that drake it may or may not be weighing
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: in to to this that would be interesting on a
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: on a number of levels i was stunned yeah i
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: was stunned by it but that's.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: A yeah i don't yeah i don't I don't really
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: know where the Lenny Kravitz delegation stands on these matters.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: But I think, I mean, I, so we probably, this
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: will end up in a longer conversation, but I think
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: that we don't take into account how someone's identity can
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: be shifted by what's happening to and around them. And
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: I think that he looks back on the Kendrick thing
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: as like, y'all acting like he the realist. when he
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: working for the man, and this was all orchestrated by
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: the man. And now he finds himself in a position
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  Speaker 3: where there's a lane to be like, nah, I'm the realist.
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  Speaker 3: I'm down for the people. I'm trying to be independent.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not operating as an arm of the industry. I
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  Speaker 3: think that is a lane that is available to him,
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  Speaker 3: how genuine it is or not, or whether he wants
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  Speaker 3: to take it or not. It's a lane that's there now,
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  Speaker 3: and it's the only way that I think he can
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  Speaker 3: save face from the Kendrick thing, because... That was a
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: big old fat L. And now he's suing people and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: they're like, why are you suing? And his response is,
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  Speaker 3: I'm suing the man.
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  Speaker 2: I'm the people. I'm suing the big man.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like a compelling place to be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I could see how you came up with that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's true. Oh, I know. I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: at Drake like, it's not that I don't get what
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  Speaker 2: you're going for here. Yeah, right. It's just that, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But no, it's coming, man. Yeah, it is coming.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, election year, we're lucky it's not a
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  Speaker 1: big election year, assuming.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have one of those.
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  Speaker 1: But we're lucky it's not a big election year, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to be the end
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  Speaker 1: on this.
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  Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question?
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  Speaker 3: And this might sound stupid, but I have never felt
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  Speaker 3: like my algorithm is more distinct than from people in
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  Speaker 3: my circle than before. Like it used to be, and
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  Speaker 3: maybe it's about me getting older and spending less time
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  Speaker 3: in the social media. But so often, like my buddy,
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  Speaker 3: Charlie Kravitz, we're like different demographically. However, there used to
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: be a time, it felt like five years ago that
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  Speaker 3: if I saw it, I knew he saw it. And
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  Speaker 3: now there's so many different things that it's like, I
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: never see it. or I see something that he never sees.
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  Speaker 3: It just feels that the algorithm is being, it's just,
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  Speaker 3: it's less of the monoculture, which I know is not
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: a new thing, but it feels even more extreme and
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  Speaker 3: distinct to me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I do feel like all our
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: friends are getting the same, fuck Stephen A. Smith content. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think we all getting that. We in that demo,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah, we in that. That's a good question.
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  Speaker 1: I wish there could be a way that we could
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  Speaker 1: just like, I could put my account next to your account.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And they could tell us, but the only way we
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: could do that is we have to sell our information over.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I'd love to see like how similar and different like
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: our two accounts plus Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it'd be very different. I don't, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I noticed in like our group chat that
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: you guys surface things that I hadn't seen before. And
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: I'll surface things that surprise you that I, or I'll
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: get something sent to me two days after I seen it.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, hey, that's weird. I know you
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: was on there. Why are you just seeing this now?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: It's just a weird- That's a good question.
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  Speaker 1: The thing for people to realize is when we watch
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  Speaker 1: the news, we're not watching the same news. Everybody having
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: different news to watch is really bad. On one hand,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: you could say that, but at the same time, you
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: could make an argument that all of us watching different
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: news is bad, but is all of us watching the
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  Speaker 1: same news good?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: The answer, obviously, is somewhere in between.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so much information that someone has to make
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: editorial decisions. And at one point, we knew who was
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: making editorial decisions. And now it doesn't feel like we
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: know who's making editorial decisions.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Well, what I know is the decision is you probably
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: sent me something that either is a woman you think
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: I'm attractive or a person you think is going to
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: make me mad. Like, that's why I mentioned the Stephen
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: A thing. They're like, nah, man, we know this will
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: get y'all going. Stephen A, right here, saying stuff that
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: you don't like. We gonna get it all.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Like, in his.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Little sit down with Jamel, the thing I found interesting
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: was like hearing how much he was critical of Trump.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: They'll never send me when he do that. I don't
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: ever send that.
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  Speaker 3: I noticed that I feel like I have less control
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: because there was a time when I felt like I
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: could train my algorithm away from things. But now it's like, nah, nah,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: you fit in this demo. And they keep trying me.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: They keep trying me. Keep trying me till I watch
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: one of these videos of somebody doing some shit that
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: I don't like.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: And they just like, I know who you are.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: No matter what you try to convince me, I know
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: that you're going to end up back here looking at this.
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  Speaker 2: It's either big booties or it's somebody talking bad about
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: black people. It's one or the other. It's one or
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: the other. They know who I am. They know what
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: I want to see. That's Dominique Fosberg.
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