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Murder vs Self Defense....Did the prosecutors get it right?? · Black Girl Interrupted Podcast

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  I don't know what's going on with this thing, but any who, I
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  hope y'all can hear me. But any way, y'all, welcome back to
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  another episode of Black Girl Interrupted. Y'all already know who it is. It's
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  your girl Ash bringing y'all another another, another, another beautiful episode of Black
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  Girl Interrupt that podcast. Um. I was actually supposed to do a whole
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  completely different topic tonight, right, um, But two particular stories people ding
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  me about them and they were like, asked, you gotta talk about this,
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  you gotta bring this some Black Girl inter about the podcast, and I
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  was like, okay, send me the stories, let me see what they
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  are. One particular story has definitely been on the forefront for the last week
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  and a half now with regards to the mother and son and the shooting that
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  took place at the hot dog stand in Chicago. So this is tonight's conversation.
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  Let me say this, All opinions and comments are welcome. I do
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  ask that you be respectful of everyone's opinions. Y'all know I don't tolerate disrespect
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  on my show, but I do respect everyone's opinion because a lot of people
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  are looking at this situation totally different. Some people are in agreement with what
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  the mother did, some people are not in agreement with what the mother did.
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  It's just kind of been back and forth. So tonight that is the
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  conversation. But y'all already know. Before I do anything, y'all know,
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  I always have to do my mental health check ins, So drop in the
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  comments, let me know how you guys are doing. Happy Tuesday. Y'all
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  just don't even understand. I'm trying to shake through this migraine that I've been
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  dealing with since yesterday. I was actually gonna reschedule the show to tomorrow,
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  but someone told me. They say, after you got to show up,
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  you got to pull up. You got to be consistent. So here I
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  am tonight. Again. I always do my mental health check ins before any
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  shows start, so you already know I always play something empowering, uplifting.
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  But here you go, and then we're gonna jump into tonight's comments. But
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  again, y'all dropping the comments, let me know how y'all are feeling,
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  let me know what's on your mind. Again, Happy Tuesday, and here
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  we go. If you can take it, you can make it, y'all.
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  Forgive me. That's the wrong one, y'all forgive me. Here we
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  go. I want to encourage somebody out there who's thinking about quitting and giving
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  up, somebody who has been praying for years for things to turn around.
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  You're thinking about quitting, You're thinking about giving up. You are folding,
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  you are caving in. This is for you. You're in this storm and
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  you're down on your knees and your cold, and you're weak, and you
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  feel like it's just the app You have a choice to either give up or
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  keep going. Give up, will get up. Don't give up. Don't
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  give up, stay in it, stay focused. When you fail, try
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  again and again and again. You just take one step at a time.
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  It's hard, but it's worth fighting. Is worth believing, it's worth mustering
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  yourself up, standing up inside yourself. It's worth fighting relentlessly, never giving
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  up. I love the sun, but things don't grow because of the sun.
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  You have to have some rain, and you've got to stop looking at
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  rain in your life. It's something bad. My greatest moments didn't come from
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  my greatest moments. My greatest moments came from my greatest defeats. Because it
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  was doing my defeat that I had to find a way to get back up.
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  You look for one minute that you broke me, You got me twisted.
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  I am not phenomenally skilled, but phenomenally will I will not give up.
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  I will not courrender, I will not quit. Don't stop God,
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  stop cold, stop running towards your dreams. Stay in courage, Stay in
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  courage and keep your head up, stick your chest out. Continue to walk
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  with Clyde and know if it was easy, everybody would do it. It's
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  not gonna be easy, but we have what it takes. They're rough times,
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  they're gonna come, but they have not come to stay. They have
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  come to pass. Don't say I'm having a bad day. Say I'm having
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  a character building day. Don't look at night at darkness. Look at night
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  as a new beginning. So shout out to y'all again. Y'all already know
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  I have to do my mental health checkens every time I start my show because
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  I need to know how y'all are feeling mentally. I need to know how
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  you are feeling mentally, how are you feeling spiritually? How are you feeling
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  emotionally? What are we doing like? How are y'all feeling? But just
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  know that I love y'all and keep going, keep going, keep going.
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  But again tonight, this topic has been a hot topic literally for the last
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  three four days, and everyone's been been been on the fence. Like I
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  said, everybody's there are some people that are in favor of what the mother
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  did. There are some that were not in favor. There were some that
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  said mother should have walked away. So we just we're gonna jump into that
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  tonight. So tonight's conversation again, we are talking about carlicilhood was a self
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  defense or was it murder? Before I even I'll say that for the end.
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  I'll wait to the end because some breaking news I just saw and it
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  made me real sick to my damn's stomach. But I will I'll bring that
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  to the forefront at the end because I definitely want to do a part two
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  to that soul. Hey, Sissy, they're go my Natalie, Hey Bookie,
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  Hey Joe. I love your Sissy. I miss y'all. Happy Tuesday.
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  I hope y'all are having a beautiful, phenomenal day. I really hope
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  y'all are. So Again tonight's conversation, let me let me say this before
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  we even start, I do ask that everyone be respectful of everyone's opinions,
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  comments, feelings, emotions. I ask that y'all be respectful because again,
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  not everyone is gonna agree with how this situation was handled. You. Again,
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  it's been mixed emotions. It's been all over the place. But I
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  want to say y'all know no disrespect will be tolerated on Black Girl Interrupt that
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  podcast. Let me go ahead and put that out there. If I feel
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  like it gets disrespectful in the comments, I will block your comments for the
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  remainder of the show. Again, this has been a heated topic. This
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  has been a debate for the last three days. People of four people are
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  again, so you have some people that are just someone sitting in the middle.
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  But again, I've received a lot of d ms about this conversation about
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  this particular topic. So I said, you know what, let me go
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  ahead and bring it on to a Black Girl Interrupt that part podcast. So
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  Jewels says, I feel great, Sis. She say, I'm in a
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  peaceful space, and she said that's on God. So I'm right there with
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  you, Sis, I'm in a beautiful space right now. I will say
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  um mentally, I'm good. I'm just trying to shake this this migraine that's
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  been lingering but going on almost two days now, so that that's where I'm
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  at right now. I'm really trying to shake this off. I'm having a
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  few technicals to hold on, y'all. I'm trying to make sure that my
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  microphone does not Okay, here we go. I'm trying to move stuff around
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  and make sure that my microphone does not cut off on me because I don't
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  want to be in the middle of a conversation. And Lord had mercy,
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  what just happened? Okay, maybe it'll I don't know, but we're good
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  in a that is good. Let me know if y'all can't hit me or
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  y'all cannot hit me, So AnyWho, tonight's conversation, I'm talking about Carly
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  Childhood. That is the mother of the fourteen year old who shot Jeremy Brown
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  at the Maxwell hot dog stand in Chicago on June d eighteen or seventeenth.
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  June seventeenth. I believe I may have my dates wrong, But for those
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  that do not know what's going on, a mother and son, So let
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  me give you the bad story and then we'll just go forward. So we
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  have a mother and a son that step out to go get you know,
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  go get some food, and mother was in the restaurant ordering food, and
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  then an altercation ensued between miss Carly Childhood and Jeremy Brown. Apparently, again
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  that has not come out, but apparently it was an issue with mister Brown
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  came in and skipped or tried to jump in front of the line, and
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  Miss Hood said something to him in which enraged him he didn't like, which
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  resulted in him physically assaulting Miss Hood in this store, which led up to
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  the demise of mister Jeremy Brown. Let me let me say this before y'all
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  start letting the media brainwash y'all and say, oh, she did this,
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  she did that. Let the facts come out first, because some of the
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  comments that I saw were very distasteful, very classless for y'all to say that
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  this woman was not a good mother. And I'm looking at it from both
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  sides of the corn. We don't know what triggered this young man to shoot
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  this man. We don't know if he's seen this before, if he's seen
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  his mother being being a take before. Is Miss Hood a a victim of
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  domestic violence? We don't know. So I asked that before y'all make rushed
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  judgments. Look at it from all sides of the spectrum. Stop going immediately
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  by what the media says, because apparently something warranted them for them to dismiss
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  the charges against miss Hood as well as her son. So let me say
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  this, trigger warning, trigger warning, trigger warning. I am going to
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  show the video, so let me go ahead and put the trigger warning up
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  there. The video is only twenty like twenty three seconds long, and then
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  I want us to jump back into the conversation, So brace yourself. Here's
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  the video, and then we can continue on with the conversation. Nickname fool,
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  he said. Let me let me really take a deep breath on this,
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  because when I saw this video, I'm not gonna even lie to y'all.
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  Y'all, I was sick to my stomach. Number One, there were
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  men that were inside the restaurant at the time that this happened. I don't
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  understand why a man didn't step in to try to diffuse the situation before it
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  escalated to the point that it did. Number two, the fact that y'all
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  were blaming this woman, saying, oh, he gave her a warning.
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  He gave her a warning. Are you serious? Number three. Y'all live
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  by a cold now that says, oh, if it don't involve me,
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  I'm not getting in the middle of it. But that could have been your
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  mother, that could have been your sister, that could have been your daughter,
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  And for no one to intervene to try to stop this before this even
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  escalated as far as it did, it's very it's very word. Let me
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  get my words together because I want to make sure that I'm not stumbling over
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  my words. But this is absolutely disgusting to me. I get it.
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  No one wants to get involved because no one wants to be heard. They
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  don't want to be killed, because we've seen such a tions like this where
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  people end up there. I get it, I understand. But y'all sat
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  there and y'all watched this man physically beat this woman up. He was beating
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  up on this woman like he was a man, like she was a man.
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  And the fact that y'all could pull out a cell phone and record,
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  but no one wanted to call the police. That's a problem to me.
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  That's a real, real, big issue to me. And the only person
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  that saved this woman was her fourteen year old son. I'm just I'm appalled
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  I'm disgusted with this new generation because the woman was not aggressive with him at
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  all, and I think that's what pissed him off even more was the fact
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  that she didn't match the same energy that he was on. She didn't match
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  that energy. But there's no words in the world that could warrant the way
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  that man raped the bag and sucked this lady in her face, not once,
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  but multiple times, and no one stepped in. That's the part that
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  really baffles me. Jule says, some of these men are soft as ultra
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  Sharman politician these days. It's a fucking sad, true fact because in any
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  given moment, again, what this woman was not aggressive with him at all?
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  Zero? So what warranted you to step back the way that you did
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  and pound on that woman and people stood by and watching. No one did
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  anything but her son. Again, it's alleged that this all started because,
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  you know, behind him coming in and he was trying to skip in front
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  of the line or something like that, and she said something about it.
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  And I think the person that she was talking to when she said go get
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  in the car, I believe was her son. But now stories have surfaced
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  about mister Brown to the point where they say this is not the first time
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  that he is. They known that they call him the knockout King in Chicago,
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  that he has domestic violence cases or charges. Again, I don't know
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  how true that is. It's all alleged, Okay, alleged, But again,
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  what warranted you to hit this woman the way that you did? I
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  honestly, for the life of me, I'm baffled about this. So Jeule
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  says his ass was too comfortable punching that woman down, which leads me to
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  believe that his ass naturally beats women. Again, there have been stories that
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  have come out. Again, I don't know if it's facts. Again,
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  these are alleged. I believe someone pulled his criminal history, and I believe
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  that was part of the reason why charges were dropped, amongst other bits of
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  evidence that came to life. So you guys do have to understand that prior
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  year two, the second video being released, only the video of the Sun
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  standing in the doorway and the guns and the sun shooting was the only video
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  that they had surface. So that's what that was the basis of them filing
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  the murder charges against her and the Sun. The issue that I have with
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  that is when it comes to white people, y'all have to first sort through
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  the facts before anyone's arrested. Okay, but black people, they had a
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  warrant issue for this lady's arrest the next day for her and the Sun,
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  and she went and turned herself in. They didn't have to come look for
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  her. They didn't have to ration out the facts or we got to get
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  all the evidence. But because they were so quick the judgment, now you
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  had to drop the charges. Because her an attorney in Chicago, he states
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  that that was absolutely self defense because they say that if someone's being harmed,
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  you have the right to protect yourself. You have the right to utilize deadly
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  force, or if you see someone, you have the right to utilize deadly
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  force. So that was another angle which warranted them to drop the charges.
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  Because the Sun was watching his mother get beat up while other patrons in the
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  restaurant still buying, did nothing. That's very disheartening to me because I remember
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  back in the day, the community protected women, children and the elderly.
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  This new generation, y'all turn a blind eye until this situation is knocking at
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  your door. And then now you're question is saying, well, why didn't
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  someone step in. Again, I'm looking at this from all angles. Do
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  I feel like the sun was writing what he did? Absolutely, because no
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  one else did. This is a mother, this is a sister, this
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  is a daughter, This is a cousin. This is somebody's family member that
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  the community failed to protect. Do I wish that it could have gone differently?
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  Absolutely? I do, But unfortunately it didn't. Mister Brown had no
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  right to come in and put hands on this woman. This woman was not
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  provoking to him. She was not aggressive to him. Ultimately, you cause
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  your own demise. As much as as I hate to say those words,
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  but you did because there was nothing that woman did that warranted you to put
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  your hands on it. Nothing. You guys saw the video. I'm not
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  ruled in the video again, but you saw this. She was calm,
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  she was cool, she was collective, she wasn't aggressive. He could have
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  walked away. Everyone's saying, old, oh, she should have walked away.
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  Ain't nobody life worth over food? Losing your life over food? Mister
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  Brown, did you came in there very aggressive and then for you to say,
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  oh, my grandma, you say something else? As crass as this
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  may sound, if your grandmother is no longer here in the physical Now you're
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  with her, And now everyone's saying, oh, but he had two daughters.
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  You weren't thinking about your daughters when you pounced on that woman. That
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  were you. But I'm gonna say this, my heart and compassion goes to
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  the children because no one's a winner in this situation. Let me let me
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  first say that no one's a winner, because now you have a fourteen year
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  old child whose life has been changed forever. You have a fourteen year old
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  child who now has a target on his back. You have a mother who
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  now is living in fear of retaliation. And then if you look at mister
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  Brown's side, you have two daughters without a father. And then the sad
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  part about it was the girlfriend was in the restaurant with him, and you
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  lied and said that the mother told the son to shoot you. That was
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  another angle because the witnesses in there didn't even cooperate what the girlfriend said.
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  They said that was a lie, and the girlfriend turned around and retracted her
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  state. So again, y'all were so quick to jump to judgment and all
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  the facts weren't even lay it out for y'all. Chicago police gave you a
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  snippet of what happened, and they had the whole video footage from the way
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  to security. The camera was angle inside the restaurant. But here we are,
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  we run and we let the media dictate and tell us, and we
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  don't even have the whole facts. So now you have a mother and a
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  son who spent five days in jail and the charges were dismissed. Again for
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  those that have not seen the video, I've already played it. I'm not
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  playing it again. But in the sun circumstances, he did what he had
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  to do to protect his mother. Is it costing him and the mother?
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  Yeah, it is. But I pray for the mental of this young man.
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  He's fourteen years old, had never been in trouble. He's been extras
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  on a couple of TV shows whose life has changed as well. But no
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  one's taken into consideration, or no one's praying for the men told of this
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  mother and son. Who has to who has to live with this? Do
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  you think the mother got up that day and said, Oh, we're gonna
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  go into this restaurant and we're gonna shoot somebody. No, you have a
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  mother and a son that got up to go hit some food, only for
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  it to end the way that it did. No one wakes up and says,
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  you know what, we're gonna kill somebody today. No one does that.
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  But unfortunately, for every for every action, there's a consequence. I
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  just when I initially got the email and I went to go and I looked
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  over the story, I said, okay, and I'm really trying to look
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  at this from all angles and not just as a person of domestic abuse.
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  But that's how I looked at because I stepped into miss Carlicia's shoot. Artaga
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  says it was her son that she told to get in a car. That's
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  what I thought. I thought, that's who she was talking to. M
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  Jules says, boom, that's what I just said. Jule says he fucked
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  around and found somebody said he went in there for a hot dog and left
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  with wings. Y'all play all day. Y'all played too much. Oh,
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  Jule says, Condolen sist to his family, but they can't fault anyone but
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  him for his demise. Absolutely, she said. A sad truth is that
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  the abuse will normally lie for their abuse. Or I'm glad they found out
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  she lied. Absolutely, um, because that's that's was another angle of what
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  prompted them to file the charges. They say, oh, she coerced her
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  son. If you go look at it, you see all the top you
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  know, all the headlines, and say, oh, she coerced her son.
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  Oh she was texting her son. No, she was not texting him.
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  I believe the sun was had come in to the restaurant and she told
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  him to get in the car. But he it looks like he had already
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  had the gun at the time. So y'all correct me if I'm wrong on
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  that too. Y'all correct me if I'm wrong on that. So again,
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  they didn't show the whole video. And again Chicago Police Department had the whole
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  video because they had gotten the footage from the security camera that was inside the
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  restaurant. So let me show, y'all. Because the legal analysts weighed in
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  on this with regards to this, and me and her pretty much said the
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  same thing. And then I want to jump back into the conversation again,
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  y'all, welcome to another episode a Black Girl interrupted tonight. We are talking
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  about Carlicia Hood was a self defense that wasn't murder. Some people feel like
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  she murdered him a lot of people are saying it was self defense. Persecution
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  had the drop the charges because they ruled it as it was self defense.
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  But here's a legal analyst that weighs in on it, and listen to her
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  take on this. And now we have more on the surprise decision to drop
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  charges in the local case of a mother accused of telling her young son to
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  shoot a man. Fox starting to legal analysts. Karen Kantie is here to
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  kind of help sort things out. And Karen, you know, we were
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  all shocked by this story last week because just the details of it are horrifying
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  based on the evidence. Now we're hearing this decision to drop charges, it's
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  even more surprising. Can you even guess why the state's attorney might be moving
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  in this direction? Something that was reported initially must not be true. The
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  reporting that we got, which I think was directly from the police department,
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  was that the mother was texting the son to come in and to confront this
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  guy that she had this altercation with, and that she was actively encouraging her
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  son to take out his gun and shoot, and even after the shooting was
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  done, she was encouraging him or trying to get the gun to shoot a
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  witness who had actually watched the whole thing, so that all of those that
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  report that must not all be true, because otherwise why in the world would
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  charge us be dropped. I mean, one piece of speculation is the claim
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  of self defense. Could that be at play here? The mom and son
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  claiming self defense in this situation. I don't really see that here, Anthony.
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  And the reason is that you can only use defense of others if the
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  person is being threatened with force, with death or deadly bodily force. And
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  although punching the guy was punching the mother, you know that's not a good
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  thing, but that's not deadly forced. That's not a knife, it's not
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  a gun. So the kid would not have had the right to pull out
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  a gun and shoot, and the kid would not have had a right to
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  follow the victim outside and shoot him once again in the back, which is
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  what supposedly happened. So a defense here of self defense or defense of others,
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  it just doesn't seem to be appropriate. We're also working with a tight
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  timeline because there has to be solid evidence, and then there's a timeline involved
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  as well, where the States Attorney has to act to follow through with these
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  charges, can you kind of explain that well, I mean, there's no
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  real hard and fast rule here, but I mean, I think the public
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  has an outcry here, and I think that when we saw those charges and
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  we saw the allegations, that was pretty outrageous. I'm just hoping that Kim
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  Fox's office, just in the light of public disclosure, he's going to make
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  a statement as to why the charges were first brought and why they were dropped.
• 32:00
  Yeah, that's a million dollar question. Now, any thoughts if you
• 32:02
  were representing the victims family here, which you would advise them, well,
• 32:08
  you know, nothing's going to bring him back. But you know, it's
• 32:12
  fourteen year old should not have a gun illegally, and the gun apparently was
• 32:15
  not legal, and if the mother at all was involved, you know,
• 32:20
  obviously, you know they probably are a little angry that that charges were dropped.
• 32:25
  But again, you know, there's no recourse in something like this.
• 32:28
  It's just a disaster all over. We'll wait and see if the state's attorney's
• 32:32
  office releases a statement, as you mentioned, Karen Conti, thank you very
• 32:37
  much for your time this afternoon. So y'all drop in the comments. Let
• 32:43
  me know what do you think of what that legal analysts had to see,
• 32:47
  because in certain points I agree with her, and in certain instances I didn't
• 32:54
  because she didn't even have the whole facts. Because if you go back,
• 33:00
  they clearly stated that the mother was licensed to care. Okay, so let's
• 33:05
  first put that out there. Okay, the mother was licensed to carry,
• 33:08
  she had she had her license to carry the gun, so it was not
• 33:13
  illegal. But again, according to another attorney out of Chicago, said it
• 33:23
  very much warranted self defense. That you do have the right to defend others
• 33:32
  with deadly force. So sorry, legal analysts, you got yours wrong.
• 33:39
  To a point, I agree with you. But then as you kept talking,
• 33:44
  I want to cut your microphone off. Up. There's my brother.
• 33:47
  There's my brother. Y'all hold tight, here's my brother. Hey brother,
• 33:55
  huh, I'm gonna get mine. Yeah, I'm good. Can you hear
• 34:04
  me? Okay? Put piece? Okay, let me. I gotta get
• 34:08
  your name. Let me put your Why are you Why you didn't you put
• 34:10
  your name up? Hill? Why is your name not? Sure? It's
• 34:15
  not? I don't know. Hello, I got it. I didn't set
• 34:22
  this. Nope, nope, I don't have it. Okay, let me
• 34:28
  see. Let me see if I take this banner off, can we see
• 34:30
  that could be what it is? You know what, damn it, it
• 34:32
  could be. There we go, there we go. Because the banner was
• 34:36
  in the way. I was like why. I was like, why is
• 34:37
  my brother name that up in shore? Like anyway? So, y'all welcome,
• 34:43
  welcome, welcome, welcome. My brother Will who is the whole ce
• 34:46
  and CEO of the Blackmail podcast for y'all. Y'all already know me, and
• 34:53
  y'all already know y'all are familiar with him. He always taps in with us.
• 34:58
  We support each other, we give each other the love. But I
• 35:00
  just wanted to grab him on for just a few moments because I've been in
• 35:04
  some spaces with him with regards to the same topic, the same conversation with
• 35:08
  regards to Carlesia Hood again, the mother of the fourteen year old that shot
• 35:16
  thirty two year old Jeremy Brown at the Maxwell Hot dog stand in Chicago.
• 35:22
  Wasn't it January? Not January, June the eighteenth or seventeen, something like
• 35:25
  that. Yeah, yeah, June eighteenth. So it was on a Sunday
• 35:30
  day before Juneteenth. Brother, I'm a little because I've been in conflicted reports
• 35:38
  with regards to what even prompted it. Someone said he came into the restaurant
• 35:45
  and tried to skip in front of the line, like he tried to jump
• 35:49
  in front of people, and she was the only one that said something to
• 35:52
  him. Then it was I don't know, it's been so many conflicting stories.
• 35:58
  Do you even know what even kicked it all off? Like what what?
• 36:05
  What was the what was the what's the word? I'm trying to see
• 36:07
  what was the catalyst for all of this that for to escalate into him ultimately
• 36:15
  losing his life. So so I don't know who skipped what. I don't
• 36:20
  have that information. Um what I do have though, because you know,
• 36:24
  I was on lives a pretty much majority of last night. I was on
• 36:29
  like three or four different people lives and I spoke to a uh supposed because
• 36:34
  we don't know what's going online, but she presented herself as an ex Supreme
• 36:37
  Court judge that's now a professor, a legal professor, whatever, and I
• 36:43
  talked to her and we went kind of back and forth with it, and
• 36:47
  my point about this, Okay, before I even say this, the guy
• 36:51
  was totally at fault for the attack. You know, we can't. We
• 36:55
  have to look at the sequence of events. The sequence of events were that
• 37:00
  they got an argument, altercation, verbal altercation. Um at no point at
• 37:06
  a verbal occation should have became physical, but it did. The second thing
• 37:12
  up on reading all these I read several articles last night after having this whole
• 37:16
  back and forth with the judge or a professor, whoever she was, and
• 37:22
  m One of the articles said that the videos were edited by the cops and
• 37:25
  it was put out. It was put out after they didn't have a hold
• 37:30
  of that, that one little cell phone video that was on Twitter that everybody
• 37:34
  started circulating. So uh, they didn't have any any in hand in doing
• 37:39
  that. That was out there in the atmosphere, right that went out across
• 37:43
  the webs, and then they put a little small clip of him at the
• 37:47
  door because it's two doors to the place. I even went online and looked
• 37:51
  at the layout of this restaurant or this establishment, and which is Maxwell's.
• 37:57
  Maxwell is at least sell all kind of stuff, poor chops all that stuff.
• 38:02
  So the layout is this, The parking lot is on the side.
• 38:07
  You have to walk around, you have to walk around on the right side
• 38:10
  of it to get to the front doors. So there's two doors. There's
• 38:15
  a door close to the parking lot. Then there's a door to where the
• 38:20
  guy was whoever was filming that video footage, was standing in that doorway,
• 38:25
  which is the right door. You look at the buildings the right door.
• 38:29
  So the thing is the guy of Jeremy Brown, his back was to that
• 38:34
  second door. His right side was to the other door, the front door,
• 38:37
  so he didn't see the sun behind him. You already mentioned that she
• 38:42
  was talking to her son. Her son at some point came up to through
• 38:45
  that door and was standing there watching the mother. Now it was alleged that
• 38:49
  she texts him in the whole back and forth, we didn't even see the
• 38:51
  whole like the whole interaction. The cell phone footage is not the whole interaction
• 38:57
  of that whole altercation. And I out I hope, but I hope would
• 39:00
  happened the police or whoever's in charge, give everything because they have inside footage,
• 39:06
  any of outside footage. If if they have all this footage, that
• 39:09
  might sway the way we look at it. Because it's alleged that after the
• 39:14
  initial shot, which is is warranted, the initial shot and this is why
• 39:20
  people have a whole difference opinions, because the initial shot would be self defense
• 39:23
  inside the building in the act of you know, him beating the boy's mother
• 39:29
  would be self defense if what they say is true with the news reports to
• 39:34
  say that's true. All the reports I have I've read say that they followed
• 39:37
  behind him when he was running out the store, which he would have been
• 39:42
  running out that right door, because he wouldn't have ran past the shooter,
• 39:45
  which would have been that left door. He wouldn't have ran that way.
• 39:47
  And if the cars were parked on that side, he would have been running
• 39:51
  to his car on that side. If this carge parked or that there's also
• 39:54
  a little alleyway that could have been there could have a car park or there
• 39:58
  that too, But we don't know. We just know that the actual parking
• 40:00
  lot is on the on the right side, on the left side of the
• 40:02
  building. The shooters on the left side of the building. He ran out
• 40:06
  the right door away from the shooter. We know that. So, um,
• 40:10
  if we had all this information, then we could we could a dogmatically
• 40:15
  say this was clearly murder or this wasn't right. The first shot self defense
• 40:21
  all day loan, if he would have emptied the clip inside the building,
• 40:23
  and he would have died right there inside of the building if all the shots
• 40:27
  would have happened prior to him leaving out that building self defense. But as
• 40:32
  I asked the former judge, I'm like, at some point there's a clear
• 40:37
  point in law to where you become a victim or aggressor. If the aggressor
• 40:43
  is fleeing, aggressive is no more. He's no more aggressor. If he's
• 40:47
  fleeing the scene, he's not aggressive more. If he gets shot in the
• 40:51
  back fleeing the scene, now he is the victim. And the judge would
• 40:53
  not give me a clear answers to as to that situation. She would she
• 41:00
  kept going back to the fact of the first shot, and maybe she didn't
• 41:04
  have maybe she didn't look at all the all information, maybe she hadn't read
• 41:07
  into it like that. But I kept presenting it like, Okay, if
• 41:09
  this happened, judge, then would this be under self defense if they were
• 41:15
  ran out, And she would never like give me a straight answer. So,
• 41:19
  um, that's what I'm saying. It's just it's an unfortunate event.
• 41:22
  The man was wrong in the situation, but as a license carrot Also to
• 41:27
  your point, right a license carry, I've been in a situation where I
• 41:30
  couldn't do five years for having my own gun. Um, in a legal
• 41:34
  sense, she's lice as a carrot. That does not extend to the child
• 41:39
  being licens a carrot. So him holding that gun, brandishing that gun fire
• 41:44
  a gun would make it a legal firearm in his hands, not not her.
• 41:47
  It's it's two six separate situations. So M yeah, I feel for
• 41:53
  the Sun. I feel for the sun and the situation because, like you
• 41:57
  said, that son will not be the same. Um, he's in Chicago.
• 42:02
  We don't know if this is old. It could be retaliation. We
• 42:07
  don't know if this guy Jeremy is is gang affiliated. That's possible, you
• 42:12
  know that that he's that dude, and they might have to fear for their
• 42:15
  life. So, UM, it's not as cut and dry as I think
• 42:21
  that we want to try to make it. You know, we're not seeing
• 42:23
  all the evidence, and if we get all the evidence, maybe we have
• 42:28
  a different opinion. But the way you say that, I agree with you.
• 42:30
  You know, if it if it didn't happen the way I'm saying,
• 42:34
  the way the new reports, if they got it wrong, news reports that
• 42:36
  they follow behind this boy this boy and he shot him two times in the
• 42:39
  back at that point. If they got that wrong, then um, it
• 42:43
  would be self defense and absolutely with that brother because Carlsia did it. She
• 42:52
  held a press conference today with her attorneys UM where they discussed this. UM.
• 42:59
  I didn't watch all of it. I watched bits because it's about twenty
• 43:01
  twenty five minutes long. So I have it, but I'm only gonna show
• 43:07
  like bits and pieces. But the mother is asking give her in the sun
• 43:12
  time to just really, you know what I'm saying. They have to process
• 43:15
  all of this. I know the attorney as saying charges should have never been
• 43:20
  filed. I know there's another attorney. I don't know if he's directly involved
• 43:23
  with miss hood, but I do know where he said it was ClearCase self
• 43:30
  defense. That he the law in Chicago you have the right to use deadly
• 43:36
  force in defense of others if you see you know what I'm if you see
• 43:40
  something like that. So again that first legal analysts, I was just I
• 43:45
  was up in until she was like, it's it. You know, she
• 43:49
  said the gun was illegal. She didn't say whether it's the sun was holding
• 43:52
  your but that's why I put out there the mother was licensed to carry the
• 43:55
  gun, and the way that I'm looking at and I'm really not trying to
• 43:59
  look at it as a domestic abuse survivor. But we don't know what triggered
• 44:05
  him to shoot. You know, had he seen his mother go through this
• 44:09
  before? Is this what prompted him to No, him shooting was not the
• 44:15
  problem. Initial shot was not the problem. He should have shot. He
• 44:20
  get getting everybody needs to hear this. Right if even if Standy Brown states,
• 44:23
  no matter where, there's such thing as that you become m they give
• 44:30
  you the right to protect us. It's just like it was yourself if you're
• 44:32
  if you're witnessing it. So he had to right to shoot that first shot.
• 44:37
  That's that's not the problem. The problem is what happened after that first
• 44:39
  shot. Because we understand that there was one initial shot based on the video
• 44:45
  that we saw of the cell phone. You understand that that's that's clear self
• 44:50
  defense. We don't know the rest of it. So that's why you know
• 44:52
  this whole analyst is talking about um illegal gun, but she's referring to the
• 44:59
  fact of the son. The son cannot at fourty year old legally hold the
• 45:04
  gun fire gun. He can't do it. Um not in this situation.
• 45:10
  Now, if you're you're taking your son, if you're taking your child to
• 45:13
  a gun range, and the child is firing a gun and the gun range
• 45:16
  to teach your child gun safety, that is possible. But in the act
• 45:20
  of shooting somebody and want to use this as a defense, you know you
• 45:25
  you can't do that legally. Um There was one other point I wanted to
• 45:30
  add to that. It probably back to people, go ahead, is it's
• 45:35
  something else? But if I'm saying that if he did fire two or three
• 45:43
  additional shots, was it self defense? Right? But was it something you
• 45:47
  know that made him keep shooting allegedly? Okay, because we do again that
• 45:52
  we know that you know that first shot, uh in the back, but
• 45:58
  it was like, so there're okay, So he shot two more times allegedly,
• 46:04
  And what I'm saying is what made him keep shooting, if he really
• 46:08
  truly shot two or three additional times, was he was it like a flashback
• 46:13
  of something. That's what I was saying, to the point of, you
• 46:15
  know, had he seen that happened to his mother before, and that's why
• 46:20
  he kept shooting? Because again I'm with you the very first shot absolutely,
• 46:23
  because when you go back and you look at the cell phone video and the
• 46:31
  and even prior to that. The saddest part of that, brother was Chicago
• 46:37
  police had the whole footage because they had gotten it from the security camera that
• 46:42
  was inside the restaurant, because they said the way the camera, because I
• 46:45
  looked at the restaurant too, so I see what you were talking about.
• 46:49
  When you have a door on the right and you have that door on the
• 46:51
  left, and then there's like I guess you, like you said, like
• 46:55
  an alleyway kind of where you know how when people like cut through the into
• 47:00
  something and you can come in through that week But it looked to me where
• 47:07
  where she was harked was on the right, was on the right side and
• 47:15
  not the left side in the parking lot. Yeah, so she and I'm
• 47:22
  trying to think, you know, sometimes we have cameras. It mirrors,
• 47:24
  it shows you things backwards, right, right maps and look at the building.
• 47:30
  If you look at the building, it's actually it's on the left side
• 47:32
  that parking lives. And they showed him getting the car and back and then
• 47:37
  backing out. Oh that's the other part of So the other crime that they
• 47:40
  didn't say is leaving the you're leaving ce crime that is actually something that was
• 47:47
  Actually that's a felony also, you know, um, so I don't get
• 47:52
  how you dropped that charge. Um because something happened, somebody was shot that
• 48:00
  resulted in a death. I don't get how you dropped that. And they
• 48:02
  said they just said they had other evidence. They need to tell us what
• 48:07
  evidence was. And this is not for what happened happened. This is not
• 48:10
  for Jeremy. Jeremy was who he was, He did what he did.
• 48:15
  He deserved. He deserved that shot, depending on he might deserve if all
• 48:22
  three shots happened in that in that building, he deserved all three those shots.
• 48:25
  That's if that happened. He deserved to get what happened to him in
• 48:30
  that inside the building, outside the building. We have to look at the
• 48:34
  localis of it, you know. And after I talked about this, right,
• 48:37
  I posted the fourteen ye old boy, and I'm thinking, I'm sure
• 48:39
  you know about this. The fourteen old boy, the youngest boy that legally
• 48:44
  I mean sorry that that got tried in America. It's the youngest boy got
• 48:46
  tried in America for murder right, And the reason I posted because we cannot.
• 48:52
  We can't go back to a time where there's not due process. We
• 48:53
  can't do that because if we do that, then us as black people are
• 48:59
  we're doing We're doomed. Yeah, and that's why it's it's a slippery slope.
• 49:02
  We have to do everything's boy the book. We have to do it
• 49:06
  boy a book. Because we don't, it's gonna be anarchy and black folks
• 49:08
  are gonna be basically, it's gonna be all bets off. Even after that,
• 49:13
  do you know they dropped the murder charge on that woman that shot through
• 49:15
  the door, And that was actually what I was gonna bring up because I'm
• 49:20
  gonna do a part two on that one because that one there that but there
• 49:32
  there was not enough evidence, which is bullshit. So I brought that up.
• 49:37
  I brought that up because when you look at these cases, it sets
• 49:40
  precedents for future cases. And that's why we can't getting our emotions as black
• 49:45
  folks. Yes, we know it's screwed up in this country. For us,
• 49:47
  it's totally screwed up. We have so much to fight. Even though
• 49:51
  we fought for so much, you got so much. We have to understand
• 49:53
  that every everything that happens, we have to look at it through a different
• 49:57
  lands. We can't look at it like, okay, um, this is
• 50:00
  just this case. No, it's gonna build on for other cases. You
• 50:04
  know, it becomes the legal legality changes based on what's going on in this
• 50:09
  day and age. What's going on to day, it changed something tomorrow to
• 50:13
  where we're facing something that we don't even understand further on down the line.
• 50:17
  Absolutely, and with Carlia Hood, this situation was very heartbreaking to me because
• 50:27
  it was the fact that they tried to they tried to de villainize who Jammy
• 50:38
  Brown was because, um, it's alleged. I don't know if this is
• 50:43
  true, but they're saying that his criminal history hast played they had played a
• 50:47
  role in this because they say this is not the first time that he is
• 50:52
  a known abuser. That I believe the young lady that was with him,
• 50:57
  the girlfriend, um, has been beat up by him a multiple times.
• 51:02
  I've been seeing things circulate. Again, I don't believe everything that I see
• 51:07
  on people's pages, because you know, people lying say oh, I'm related
• 51:08
  to so and so and really not. But allegedly it was a cousin of
• 51:14
  the girlfriend of Jeremy Brown who says, oh, just last week or a
• 51:20
  few weeks ago, he was setting stuff on fire in your apartment, you
• 51:23
  know. So they say he's allegedly known as the knockout King in Chicago.
• 51:30
  I don't know. Again, all this is alleged, but at the end
• 51:35
  of the day, there was nothing that woman did or said to him that
• 51:39
  warranted him to pummel her the way that he did. Every I've seen the
• 51:44
  comments, I've seen people's lives where they say, oh, he gave or
• 51:46
  warning or she should have left. No, she was in there first,
• 51:53
  she was ordering food. So we have so there's a whole another as So
• 52:00
  this is the thing, right, if y'all want black and and this is
• 52:04
  this is where we had the whole disagreement on these lives, and where where
• 52:07
  I had to go back and forth with some guys and everything else. If
• 52:10
  we want to talk about we want black men to protect black women, you
• 52:14
  have to start looking at protection in a whole different manner. Protection physically,
• 52:20
  and it could be forewarning. Like when people are arguing this point, they're
• 52:23
  saying forewarning to people in few because this has happened, right, this,
• 52:28
  this situation happened. We're using this situation of as a teachable moment for future
• 52:32
  situations as black men and the guys that want to panel with that, I
• 52:37
  go back and forth. They contact me offline or whatever and we talk.
• 52:39
  Right. We basically had the same the same thoughts in this. To tell
• 52:45
  other young women, it does not matter about giving the last word. If
• 52:50
  you're in a situation as potentially dangerous and harmful for you as a woman,
• 52:54
  you are your first line of defense. You can't you can't say any of
• 52:58
  those men and I'm going back to this situation here, right, any of
• 53:00
  those men in that situation. Yeah, I would like to say that,
• 53:02
  yes they should have stood up and did something else, but we don't know
• 53:06
  they would do that. Everybody had their own family. Everybody had their own
• 53:09
  mother, daughters, wife, kid. Whenever they got right, they got
• 53:14
  women him to protect themselves. So you cannot fault people for thinking about their
• 53:19
  own family members that they might be responsible for for not stepping up to this
• 53:22
  situation. So the thing is, as everybody has their first line defense of
• 53:28
  theirself, get in the last word is not more important in your life.
• 53:31
  Because I had Jeremy had a gun. If he had a gun, it
• 53:36
  could have went way different if he had a gun on him. Right now,
• 53:37
  that first shot in the back could have been him turn around firing on
• 53:40
  that fourteen year old. And we have a whole different talk right now,
• 53:44
  right right right. You know, it's not about her being wrong in the
• 53:46
  situation. She was totally right. She's legally she was told right to stay
• 53:51
  in the ground. But was it smart? And that's what I think men
• 53:54
  are saying, be smart, get yourself out the situation alive. And also,
• 54:00
  you know he had your son with you, right, You could have
• 54:04
  saved yourself from going through the situation had you just say, you know what,
• 54:07
  all right, bro, this greasy ass food is not worth whatever was
• 54:12
  going on you skipping me that. I don't know what it was, but
• 54:15
  it's not worth the full consequence that could have been even worse for them.
• 54:19
  That's all they're saying, Be smart about them, about you know, situation.
• 54:22
  The escalation is always the best is always the best thing first. So
• 54:28
  Jule says, whether she was there first or not, he does not own
• 54:30
  that establishment and had no right to ask her to leave set. Establishment.
• 54:36
  I agree with you, and I agree with you too, brother, because
• 54:40
  this new generation is so different and they're loss this this new generation because I
• 54:47
  remember back in the day and I said that, prior to you jumping on,
• 54:52
  we used to men protected the women. You know, men, would
• 54:59
  you know with the escalate the situation, someone could have said, hey,
• 55:01
  man, calm down, come let the lady go. You know what I'm
• 55:05
  saying someone, But this new generation now is or we don't have nothing to
• 55:10
  do with me, So I'm just gonna you know. But the fact that
• 55:15
  someone had time to pull out the camp their cell phone and record, you
• 55:19
  could have called nine one one, Yeah, you could have called the police.
• 55:24
  There were so many things that could have happened. Could she have left,
• 55:29
  Yeah, But he came in already looked like he was. You know,
• 55:35
  again, we don't know prior to their cell phone video, and then
• 55:40
  what happened after that, alleged happened after that, you know where he fired
• 55:45
  multiple shots and things like that. Do I think we'll ever get the whole
• 55:50
  footage. I don't think we will. I don't think because they've dropped the
• 55:53
  charges now, so you can't go back and recharge her because then it's considered
• 55:59
  double depends double So I really think, well, no, no, we
• 56:04
  have to check that out because she's never been tried, so Double Jeppard Colm
• 56:07
  only counsel when they're being tried at one time. Yeah, so that if
• 56:12
  we see it and it's something different, she can be brought up in charges.
• 56:15
  But I don't think they want to. We got to realize this might
• 56:19
  be a election year. You know, it's a whole bunch of factors.
• 56:24
  Yeah, we're old bunch of factors. The fact that it hits social media
• 56:29
  and the public eye first, the way it did, that's a big factor.
• 56:32
  And that's that's dangerous. I think it's dangerous. The fact that we
• 56:37
  can sway justice just by going you know, you know, social justice,
• 56:42
  that's dangerous. Um. If anybody watched the show Black Mirror, if you
• 56:45
  haven't watched it, right, Black Mirror does stuff. Is a sci fi
• 56:49
  show that does stuff about stuff that might be going on, like the whole
• 56:52
  social media thing having lights and people being viewed as worthy if they have so
• 56:58
  many lights of so many fathers. Yeah, that seems that seems like where
• 57:00
  we at now. And that's, like I said, that's dangerous. It's
• 57:04
  a dangerous thing that the place to be at it's special for us black people.
• 57:07
  We are always going to lose the end of stick when it comes to
• 57:09
  things like this if we don't play it by the book. It's just like
• 57:16
  I said, and I'm looking at it from both sides of the coin,
• 57:20
  you know. Um. I Like I said, if you go back and
• 57:27
  you watch the press conference that they did with Miss Hood and her attorneys,
• 57:32
  they talk again, I only watched like bits and pieces of it, only
• 57:37
  watched the part where Miss Hood was speaking. I didn't hear what the attorney
• 57:40
  said afterwards with regards because I believe they did go into further detail with why
• 57:45
  they why they moved to drop the charges. I think again, I haven't
• 57:52
  watched this like twenty something minutes long, but and it's on YouTube because they
• 57:57
  just posted it like like eight nine, ten hours ago. Um, because
• 58:01
  I'm interested if they mentioned something every report I saw, because I even looked
• 58:06
  at reports when you when you reached out to me, I went and looked
• 58:08
  at some more reports and no, where doesn't mention clear any kind of evidence
• 58:15
  they had. They don't mention anything. So I would like, I'll be
• 58:17
  interested in watching that news report to see everything because, like I said,
• 58:22
  I watched because, like I said, it's about twenty something minutes long.
• 58:27
  I watched maybe the first five six minutes of it where Miss Carlicia is talking,
• 58:31
  where she's just saying, you know, um, they just need some
• 58:35
  time. Basically, they need time to really decompress. They need to process
• 58:38
  this, you know, for her and for her son. But it's the
• 58:44
  aftermath is what I'm worried about. Because a lot of people that are from
• 58:49
  Chicago or live in Chicago, I've seen their videos and they said this is
• 58:53
  gonna be far from over that if Jeremy has family members that go to school
• 59:00
  with this little boy, because his picture is out I mean they put his
• 59:04
  picture out there everything, and they said, you know, hey, he
• 59:07
  was the you know, he was an extra on the Shy He was an
• 59:10
  extra on in the movie Shy Iraq. So you and I mean you see
• 59:16
  him posted up with pictures with the celebrities and things like that. So my
• 59:20
  concern now, it's for the safety of the mother and the son. A
• 59:27
  lot of people are saying she's gonna have to pack up and move, But
• 59:30
  where's she gonna go because this is gonna follow them wherever they go. I
• 59:36
  don't care if they moved to Mars, you know. So I'm going on
• 59:43
  a question you got written here, right, Do you think this could be
• 59:45
  handled differently? And that's what I want to do because I posed this to
• 59:47
  other women on these lives, and some other guys did too, and well
• 59:52
  earlier I wasn't a live early and they posed the same question. And I'm
• 59:55
  gonna pose this to you, right, Okay, you domestic violence victim.
• 1:00:01
  You you are that. So we don't have to we don't have to guess
• 1:00:04
  that. We don't have to, uh, just suppose that. Right,
• 1:00:07
  you are a domestic You're in this situation, right, and you have your
• 1:00:10
  son? Would you have a son? You have a son and your son
• 1:00:14
  in the car? Would you would you have put your son in that position?
• 1:00:22
  No? See? And this this is the thing, right when we
• 1:00:25
  talk about two lives lost that night. Yes, so this is the thing
• 1:00:31
  right when we talk about legalities, what they say is like, if you
• 1:00:36
  put somebody, any other person that situation of normal mind, right, would
• 1:00:40
  they have done the same thing? So I have two things. She's a
• 1:00:45
  licensed carry person, Why carrot, she's a license to carry? Right?
• 1:00:49
  Why didn't she have a w R? Right, she had a little bag,
• 1:00:52
  she had a little purse or something around her around the front. She
• 1:00:55
  had a little black purse right there. Why wasn't a gun onner? We
• 1:01:00
  wouldn't have this conversation if the gun was on her, That's clear cut.
• 1:01:05
  That would have been clear cut, no, no problems, And I wouldn't
• 1:01:08
  have a problem talking about this. We wouldn't. We wouldn't have a discussion.
• 1:01:13
  My discussion and my uh my issue with the situations that you left it
• 1:01:17
  up the hands of a child to protect you when you had the ability to
• 1:01:22
  protect yourself because you had a license. So and and I'm a counter act
• 1:01:30
  that because no one and no one gets up and wants to go and go
• 1:01:37
  to grant something head and says, oh, let me have let me keep
• 1:01:39
  my let me carry my gun on me, let me just you know,
• 1:01:43
  I've seen people say, you know, they leave it in the car,
• 1:01:46
  But it's very rare circumstances. Why I see people say, oh, you
• 1:01:50
  know, we're just gonna run up he and go grab a pizza or something.
• 1:01:52
  Let me make sure I have my peace on me. Now, I
• 1:01:54
  see some men that do that. Now I've seen some women that do that.
• 1:01:58
  But I don't think. And in her mind she was thinking, I'm
• 1:02:04
  gonna have to you know, I'm gonna have to carry my piece with me.
• 1:02:07
  Maybe I'm maybe let me let me. I don't I don't know.
• 1:02:10
  I don't count of your counter right, because we're from the same place.
• 1:02:14
  Would you going to New Orleans East at eleven pm at night? Eleven pm
• 1:02:19
  at night with your child without your piece and leave your piece in the car.
• 1:02:24
  First off, I'm not going to New Orleans East after seven o'clock?
• 1:02:29
  Do you let at all? Eight o'clock at night? So and and and
• 1:02:34
  I'm with you. I'm just thinking maybe how she was thinking, maybe she's
• 1:02:38
  like, you know what, we're just gonna run up here to this lahifs
• 1:02:42
  that maybe they've been there before and they've never had an issue. I don't
• 1:02:45
  know. But at eleven o'clock at night, first off, if I'm having
• 1:02:51
  to get out of my car to go into an establishment to get some food,
• 1:02:54
  yeah, I'm gonna have my piece on me. I'm gonna have that
• 1:02:57
  mousecl tooled on me because I don't know that I may look, that's a
• 1:03:00
  surprise I may need for later on, like Mickey mouse Sleck, but like
• 1:03:05
  if I'm just going to a drive through, then yeah, that's in the
• 1:03:07
  car. So I'm just thinking maybe the way she's thinking. Maybe she was
• 1:03:10
  like, you know, we've been up here before about this time and night.
• 1:03:13
  We've never had an issue, So maybe that's what she was thinking at
• 1:03:15
  the time. But me personally, if I'm going somewhere and at that lead
• 1:03:22
  a night and I have to get out of my car, or yeah,
• 1:03:23
  that mouscatool is going with me. Yeah. The reason I say that Chicago
• 1:03:29
  and Nwance, you know, go back and forth with the murder captain right
• 1:03:31
  back and forth. So he is New Orleans and because we're from the same
• 1:03:37
  way from New Orleans, this is the East. This you will not go
• 1:03:40
  to New Orleans East without anything on you getting out of the car, talking
• 1:03:45
  about I'm gonna get some I'm hungry, right, you're not. And then
• 1:03:49
  I'm first off, if I'm going somewhere, brother that late night, I'm
• 1:03:52
  not taking my child with me to sit in the car. That that's first
• 1:03:57
  and foremost. But again, yeah, I'm looking at it from her again.
• 1:04:02
  Me and my son, we've been up here before. We've never had
• 1:04:05
  a problem. We've been able to run in here get our food and leave.
• 1:04:09
  And then I'm also looking at it from I'm not going to New Orleans
• 1:04:13
  eas maybe, And you know, I love that little Shell gas station right
• 1:04:15
  there off, But I love that Shell gas station because they have everything.
• 1:04:18
  I there. I go in there, get my chicken and everything. But
• 1:04:20
  at eleven o'clock at night, I'm not going anywhere to getting anything to eat.
• 1:04:25
  We're gonna eat what's in this house. That's first and foremost. But
• 1:04:28
  again with her, maybe they know her in that establishment again, maybe her
• 1:04:32
  in the sun. I've been in there that time the night before. But
• 1:04:35
  me, if i have to get out of the car and I'm going into
• 1:04:40
  an establishment that laid it night to pick up food, oh yeah, that
• 1:04:43
  peace is gonna be on me, that peace gonna be on absolutely. I'm
• 1:04:47
  gonna make shot. I got me a little bag big enough to put it
• 1:04:49
  in. Maybe, hello, purse wasn't maybe? I mean you see it
• 1:04:53
  as small? Maybe you know did they ever say what type of gun it
• 1:04:56
  was that they shot it? And that's the crazy part about it. We
• 1:04:59
  didn't get that. So it's okay. So it wasn't just me. Yeah,
• 1:05:02
  don't you think you would have got you would have got okay, he
• 1:05:05
  was shot with this kind of gun. It's it's a whole bunch of stuff
• 1:05:08
  that's left out, and and and my mind, it's a reason why you're
• 1:05:13
  leaving a lot of this stuff out in my mind, right, it's because
• 1:05:15
  any other case, we hear, we hear this man was shot whatever whatever
• 1:05:19
  whatever pistol and he came to the injuries later on. Right, it's information,
• 1:05:25
  It's it's all information is all relevant. We have to understand every piece
• 1:05:29
  of information is relevant to how this supposed to play out in court, right,
• 1:05:32
  right, right, because and that and that's we so let me see
• 1:05:36
  this. So they've given us the pizza, right, It's like we have
• 1:05:41
  the we have the crust, and you've given us a sprinkle of cheese.
• 1:05:45
  You gave me one pepper on it, maybe one sausage something. But I
• 1:05:50
  just what other because all they said was it was mitigating evidence that they came
• 1:05:58
  to light that prompted them to drop the charge. So I want to know,
• 1:06:03
  can you give me the rest of the toppings on the pizza. You
• 1:06:05
  giving me the cross and you put some sauce on there, but I need
• 1:06:10
  to know the toppings. What happened was that the fact again allegedly, they
• 1:06:14
  say his criminal record came into a playof I've seen people say that. They
• 1:06:17
  say he's gang affiliated, they say he was known as the Knockout King.
• 1:06:21
  But then y'all are saying, oh, this video is what prompted. But
• 1:06:29
  I can't even say that video promptly because think about it. If you have
• 1:06:33
  video inside the place, you have full video outside the place. This video
• 1:06:38
  didn't show you anything that you didn't already know. It didn't show you anything.
• 1:06:42
  Maybe it gave you sound. That's the only thing gave you sound,
• 1:06:44
  right, it might have you might have got the sound, but you have
• 1:06:46
  the full video also with players in part right. Did she actually texts her
• 1:06:51
  son prior to him coming in there? That's another piece because we heard that
• 1:06:56
  that she texts her son for they can't get them in there. If that
• 1:07:00
  happened, if you see that on that surveillance video, her text her son
• 1:07:02
  because the whole back and forth happened with her and she brought him in there.
• 1:07:06
  Now that's another damn damning piece of evidence against the mother. So it's
• 1:07:13
  it's a bunch of holes in the story that you know. We we we're
• 1:07:15
  playing, we're playing Monday Night armchair quarterback on this without all information, you
• 1:07:21
  know, and we're playing I'm playing Devil's advocate, that's all I do.
• 1:07:25
  I'm not. I'm not. I'm not staying up for this man's uh his
• 1:07:29
  action. Like I said, he deserved that first bullet in the back.
• 1:07:32
  Is he deserved whatever he got inside the building. That's how I said.
• 1:07:36
  I don't think he should have got out there unscathed. I think what you
• 1:07:40
  said right, People should have said something, at least spoke up, right,
• 1:07:44
  Hey, y'all this food that worked off, somebody should have said something,
• 1:07:46
  and we would have. So Jewel says, there is no cold to
• 1:07:51
  the street anymore. She say, anything goes and they feel as if anyone
• 1:07:56
  can get it. Maybe it may it be man, woman, the elderly,
• 1:07:59
  or children. These kids are on demon time today, just pure evil.
• 1:08:02
  I agree with you on that, so Jewel. So Titia says,
• 1:08:06
  she agrees with you. She concurs, she carries her gun with her.
• 1:08:13
  Jewel says that woman can go anywhere she choose to go, with or without
• 1:08:15
  a gun. Never mind, because looks like he's blaming the victim with would
• 1:08:19
  have, could have, should have. I'm just going to be quiet,
• 1:08:23
  sist. I don't so since he's not blaming the victim at all, that's
• 1:08:28
  that's not what he's doing. He's clearly playing devil's advocate. He's basically saying,
• 1:08:33
  and I'm gonna let you explain, brother, you you explain, because
• 1:08:39
  we cannot be in our emotions this this is this, So let's go back
• 1:08:43
  to civil's rights. Right, I'm gonna point out something. Okay, do
• 1:08:45
  you understand Rosa Parks wasn't the first one to not get up from the seat
• 1:08:49
  uh in the bus? Right? Will you know that Rosa Parks is only
• 1:08:54
  the one that did did the right thing, and she was used for the
• 1:08:57
  for the movement. She was used to the movement because she did the right
• 1:09:00
  thing. The first lady that didn't get up from the sea fought the man,
• 1:09:03
  spit on the man, custom man out, and kick the man,
• 1:09:05
  so they couldn't use her for the movement. This is what we gotta understand.
• 1:09:09
  We have to be strategic in what we do this. I'm a strategic
• 1:09:13
  mind right when I'm when I heard this stuff, my mind goes like a
• 1:09:16
  what are we missing? I go look at all the pieces. I don't
• 1:09:19
  sleep at night I'm barely sleeping out. You see me up all night,
• 1:09:23
  right when you come across stuff. You see me up early in the morning,
• 1:09:25
  right three or four o'clock in the morning. It's because my mind is
• 1:09:28
  trying to make sense of all kinds of shit, and I really don't sleep
• 1:09:30
  because I want to understand what is going on. What do we have to
• 1:09:34
  watch out as black people? This is the problem. Right, If you
• 1:09:38
  want men to be leaders, you have to be willing to listen to a
• 1:09:42
  man when he's trying to tell you a warning, because there's always a warning.
• 1:09:45
  It's always a way out of a situation before it gets to this point.
• 1:09:48
  Right, she had fifteen seconds to do something prior to that prod to
• 1:09:53
  him touching her, Right, she had fifteen seconds. If you've ever been
• 1:09:57
  in a fight with anybody, fifteen seconds a long damn time. It could
• 1:10:00
  make or break anything. So I'm not saying the woman was wrong. What
• 1:10:03
  I'm saying is that she could have did something to protect herself and her son
• 1:10:08
  in that moment, because you can't protect anybody else. I mean, you
• 1:10:11
  can't tell anybody else what they can do, right if they're already angered.
• 1:10:15
  This man could be let's say he was a mental case. Right, let's
• 1:10:17
  say use mental case. Now you don't even know that, but you know
• 1:10:20
  the way he's posture. Did you did you watch his posture in the whole
• 1:10:24
  thing? Did you watch how you ran back at one point and moved his
• 1:10:28
  foot? That man he was ready to strike. So at that point,
• 1:10:32
  as as you've been in that situation, as right you've been situated, would
• 1:10:36
  you have read his body language is like okay, this thing about the strike,
• 1:10:41
  let me get out his damn waight? Right? Yeah, but go
• 1:10:45
  ahead, brother, No, no, we can't afford like if I want
• 1:10:49
  to say, if I would say I want to pray, and you talking
• 1:10:53
  to man that have been and I was alive, I was my son,
• 1:10:56
  I was bout with some mom house and I was alive last night and they
• 1:10:58
  were talking about well in a black men of cousy, don't do this right,
• 1:11:01
  I'm like, okay, I had to call my set. I'm like,
• 1:11:04
  hey, have you ever seen me jump and intervened when somebody had a
• 1:11:08
  gun in a public place. I've done this. This is something I've done.
• 1:11:12
  But I've been in the street, I've been in situation before, right,
• 1:11:14
  And what I can tell you is. All men are not created equal,
• 1:11:16
  just like all women are created equal. Right, every man is not
• 1:11:20
  capable of dealing with that situation. They're not, and you're gonna have caused
• 1:11:25
  more bodies to happen. We can just say, hey, everybody needs to
• 1:11:28
  get home safe. That needs to be in back of everybody in mind.
• 1:11:30
  Man, woman, child, every argument, you know, you have to
• 1:11:33
  pick your arguments, That's all I'm saying. Pick your battles. You can't
• 1:11:36
  control stuff once it spiles out, that's all. So let me ask you
• 1:11:42
  this, brother, what about the workers in the restaurant? Do you think
• 1:11:47
  they could have said something even though the people in the lobby didn't see anything.
• 1:11:53
  I feel like the workers should have said something, hey, hey,
• 1:11:55
  hey, man going outside with you know somebody. But at the end of
• 1:12:00
  the day, the man should have never I don't care how many warnings he
• 1:12:05
  gave it. But I'm with you, you know, But again, why
• 1:12:10
  should she have been She wasn't the aggressive so he looked like he came in
• 1:12:14
  on ten. So have you know the man's accountability, right, which he
• 1:12:21
  was totally counter account supposed bes totally accountable for his action, right, But
• 1:12:26
  for every action there's a reaction. So you got the woman in a situation
• 1:12:29
  that if she'd read the situation, she knows I have a child in the
• 1:12:31
  car. I'm not blaming this woman. What I'm saying is you have to
• 1:12:34
  think of each piece is separate pieces, and then we look at it together.
• 1:12:39
  I know of a child in the car, I know my weapon on
• 1:12:41
  me whatever, this food is not worth me arguing when I'm not protected in
• 1:12:45
  this place. Everybody's looking at me, people are recording. I have no
• 1:12:49
  help here, right. Situational awareness, that's all I'm telling. That's all
• 1:12:53
  I'm talking about. Situational awareness. You know, this woman could have been
• 1:12:57
  dead, then what would have been talking about. Now we'd have been talking
• 1:13:00
  about, Yes, this man is wrong, he's wrong, but this is
• 1:13:02
  woman life is lost or this boy's life is lost. Right, I'm trying
• 1:13:05
  to What I'm trying to do is prevent people from further in the future,
• 1:13:10
  getting these situations and arguing the point that's going to get them killed. That's
• 1:13:15
  all I'm trying to do. And I'm with you on that, brother,
• 1:13:18
  trust me. But again, at the end of the day, there was
• 1:13:26
  nothing that that woman did that should have provoked him to put his hands on
• 1:13:30
  her the way that I was aggressive, And then it was it was like,
• 1:13:38
  how could you If you go back and you look at it, and
• 1:13:41
  I hate to replay this video because it's so triggering to me, but if
• 1:13:45
  you look, don't play. If you don't have to, don't do that.
• 1:13:47
  Yeah, if you go back and you look at the video, she's
• 1:13:51
  in this corner. So and I looked at the layout of the restaurant too.
• 1:13:56
  I should have I should have uploaded like little blue sprint they did.
• 1:14:00
  She's in the corner. But if she goes straight this way, that's the
• 1:14:03
  door. The door. Yeah, but do you see where the people were.
• 1:14:11
  It was almost like they had her in a corner, like they had
• 1:14:14
  her like the patrons were standing there. They didn't move out of the way
• 1:14:17
  until he swung on her the first time. If you go back and you
• 1:14:20
  look at because I looked at I watched, even though it was like so
• 1:14:24
  triggering in me, I was like, yeah, I remember them days when
• 1:14:28
  so so it was like, I'm gonna tell you this right, her protection
• 1:14:33
  was at that door. Had she moved to one of the men, slid
• 1:14:38
  to one of the men, he would have to CoA towards one of the
• 1:14:41
  men. And and this is and I'm not once again, people do not
• 1:14:45
  get me wrong. The onus is not on the woman. The onus is
• 1:14:47
  not on a woman. That this is not a fault situation here. This
• 1:14:50
  is a this is a safety situation. This is there's there's a legality,
• 1:14:56
  there's a morality, and there's a there's a there's a another situation to where
• 1:15:01
  it was smart basically mental. There's a mental part of it. Like,
• 1:15:05
  dude, I think this is smart to do, right, There's there's different
• 1:15:09
  situations. We have to dig layers deep. We can't just look at surface
• 1:15:12
  level. We have the official right, Yeah, we got and that's what
• 1:15:16
  I'm saying, layers and we got to get down, down, down into
• 1:15:20
  the meat and potatoes of it, you know. So that's why I was
• 1:15:24
  saying, like, because when I was listening to on the live yesterday on
• 1:15:28
  TikTok, because brother, anytime I'm up and I see you know, I
• 1:15:30
  jump in, even if even if the lives about the end, I get
• 1:15:33
  in, Hey brother, how you knowing? But I went back as y'all
• 1:15:38
  were talking, and I'm looking and I'm like, where could she have ran
• 1:15:42
  to? Because even though he stepped. I'm gonna run it in because it's
• 1:15:47
  only twenty twenty one second, so I'm gonna I'm gonna play it and then
• 1:15:51
  and then let's go back, because I just was kind of like, how
• 1:15:58
  because I was really trying to figure out a way how could you gotten out
• 1:16:01
  of that? If you look at it piece by piece, right, I
• 1:16:05
  want you, I want piece and I want you to count seconds. I
• 1:16:09
  want one thousand and one without two from the time he said lady, get
• 1:16:12
  your food. I want you to count them seconds and and think about how
• 1:16:15
  many seconds it takes you to scoop to the left. That's all I want
• 1:16:19
  you to do, you know, because we're playing armchair quarterback right now.
• 1:16:23
  And if we're gonna do this, let's do it like they do on Monday
• 1:16:26
  night football. Let's do just like that. Let's get into it. Let's
• 1:16:29
  let's break it down. Okay, So here we go get food. If
• 1:16:42
  you say, okay, do you see where she was that it was okay?
• 1:16:58
  They only say it right there right, And if you it looked like
• 1:17:00
  it was a line of people, because you know what you see, I'm
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  standing outside the door, So it looked like it was a lot of people.
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  It was the two people at the door, and I think of some
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  people right there on the sidewall, and then okay, I might have to
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  go and then too the way the camp and then to again. Like you
• 1:17:16
  say, the camera anytime you take because some anytime like you because you have
• 1:17:21
  to turn the camera around. So I think, no, she was that
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  camera's right, the video camera's right. When I was at telling the outside
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  camera outside camera was what you was talking about. Look like the parking I
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  was on the other side. The video cameras right. That door is that
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  doors like this? The doors here, she's directly to the back. Because
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  okay, I was, because I have the pictures. I actually have the
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  pictures on my phone that I broke down. I wish I could put I
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  could put it up here. Let me h, I wish I could put
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  it up there. Can you Let's see, I'm on my phone on okay,
• 1:18:01
  if I was in my computer, I could do it. Hold on
• 1:18:03
  my second, Hold on second, I'm gonna I'm gonna text it to you,
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  okay. Um, because it looks like so she must have been parked
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  because when she told the son to get in the car, she must have
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  been parked on this side, the left side, the left side. Look
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  the buildings on the left side. The first picture, the first picture I'm
• 1:18:26
  sitting here, is the is the front of the building with the parking lot.
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  Okay. The second picture is the is directly the two doors, showing
• 1:18:33
  you the two doors. Okay. And this third picture is showing you directly
• 1:18:43
  where she was at. Like it shows you the front door into the into
• 1:18:46
  the restaurant, the right door into the restaurant. Like I said, I've
• 1:18:50
  been studying this ship. This is what I do. I study. I
• 1:18:55
  sit there and study stuff just so I could, you know, because I
• 1:18:57
  don't like talking about stuff if I don't know exactly what's going about, right,
• 1:19:02
  Okay, so let me see, let me do it. Maybe some
• 1:19:10
  feedback. It shouldn't be Okay, I just got the other Okay, I
• 1:19:18
  see the So that's the door she was standing at the right door, because
• 1:19:26
  you see the window where she wasn't so it's a direct shot. Basically,
• 1:19:31
  all she had to do with scoot to the left. All she had to
• 1:19:33
  do was she's facing the man. Make a left past the old like get
• 1:19:38
  to that that old man. Old man was a close thing to get to
• 1:19:41
  that old man, and it's like, Okay, now I'm in retreat mode.
• 1:19:44
  If he would have, if he would have, if he would have
• 1:19:45
  reacted or came towards at that point, because you're seeing she's clearly trying to
• 1:19:49
  get away, not saying he she should have. Don't put it in my
• 1:19:53
  word. I'm not saying she should have. I'm saying if she's thinking about
• 1:19:56
  her safety first and not thinking about arguing the point, then this is what
• 1:20:00
  should have happened. That's all I'm saying. And we're quarterback in this.
• 1:20:02
  This is we're Monday. We're armchair quarterback in this. That's all we're doing.
• 1:20:09
  So I'm coming in, but because I want to upload the picture.
• 1:20:13
  Okay, And I have to say this again because I know if I don't
• 1:20:30
  say this so many times people gonna take this wrong way. The man is
• 1:20:33
  one hundred and scent wrong in this situation. This will happened during the lives.
• 1:20:36
  I had to keep saying this, so people were like, they kept
• 1:20:39
  on coming in the comments. Well, he sounds like you blaming the woman.
• 1:20:42
  No, the man is one hundred percent wrong in this situation. She
• 1:20:45
  holds no fault in the situation. As we see in this video only pretends
• 1:20:51
  to this video, she holds no fault to what we've seen anything else outside.
• 1:20:57
  If we have new evidence, then we could read evaluate it's evidence and
• 1:21:00
  say, okay, what's gonna happen. But in this video, I don't
• 1:21:03
  hold a woman that fought at all. Okay, there we go, all
• 1:21:11
  right, So if they they moved pretty quick, they uploaded pretty quick.
• 1:21:14
  Okay, So there we go. Brother. There's the first one. That's
• 1:21:17
  the that's the whole front proside the building right that knife and forgat is the
• 1:21:25
  left door the sun where the sun came into. That's because she was parked.
• 1:21:30
  If you look at it, she was parked. If we're looking at
• 1:21:34
  the picture, she was parked to the left, to the left right.
• 1:21:39
  Yeah, because you see that little thing the middle. See that's what she's
• 1:21:43
  parked, right, see the little thing, that little uh, that little
• 1:21:46
  brick thing in the middle. They walked right past that brick thing when they
• 1:21:48
  went to their car. Yeah, that that little uh. Yeah. Because
• 1:21:53
  if you go and video, because I do have the video too, the
• 1:21:58
  after Yeah, when she went out to the car, well, when they
• 1:22:01
  were leaving, and that was another thing. And I'm so glad you brought
• 1:22:05
  that up. So here's the other picture, because that's where she was parked
• 1:22:10
  at. It looks like where that blue car is that like de looks like
• 1:22:14
  the side she was parked on, yea. And then there's the front.
• 1:22:19
  There's the door, the left door the boy came in the right. And
• 1:22:26
  then there's the door she was standing at, well where the other people were
• 1:22:29
  standing at, because you can see directly at the counter. And then you
• 1:22:30
  see that window right over to the right. And then there's the there's the
• 1:22:36
  actual restaurant itself, and that's the street. That's the little the little there's
• 1:22:41
  a little alley right there between that tree on the side on that side.
• 1:22:45
  Remember, like I say, how when kids used to cut through the little
• 1:22:49
  the little breeze way to get to the little store or whatever. So here's
• 1:22:55
  the million dollar question. What I no pieces have been filled in. I
• 1:23:09
  just want to know, what do you think is missing out of the middle
• 1:23:13
  of this. What do you feel like they're not telling us that prompted them
• 1:23:19
  to dismiss the charges Because I know for a fact it wasn't just a cell
• 1:23:23
  phone video. I know that's what it wasn't. Because if you listen to
• 1:23:26
  the reports. People are saying, oh yeah, new mitigating evidence came to
• 1:23:30
  life. Oh once we saw the cell phone footage that prompted because let me
• 1:23:35
  show you. Let me go back. Okay, here's this video where this
• 1:23:46
  attorney is weighing in and I, you know what, hold on, let
• 1:23:51
  me do this because I really I'm not gonna play the whole thing because,
• 1:23:59
  like I said, it's like twenty something minutes long. Okay, um,
• 1:24:02
  but I want to let me go back. It was this. I'm trying
• 1:24:15
  to let me see where the where they talked about. I'm trying to remember
• 1:24:30
  where is that. I was just looking at it. I was just looking
• 1:24:36
  at it too, like I said. Like I said, it's it's like
• 1:24:45
  twenty something minutes long, but I just wanted to show that's not it the
• 1:24:58
  pieces because again watch it because again I didn't look at it all. Listen,
• 1:25:11
  I'm trying to think. I gotta see how open. No, that
• 1:25:14
  one's not it. I gotta see how long because like I said, it's
• 1:25:16
  like twenty two it might have been longer than that. Like I said,
• 1:25:26
  I don't see where the cell phone video you know, gave you any extra
• 1:25:30
  information, right because you have a full inside view of everything. Everywhere everybody
• 1:25:38
  was at, we would have a view of that. How people's position,
• 1:25:42
  we have a view it was outside. How many men were there? You
• 1:25:46
  know, it's gonna tell us so much. You know, how many people
• 1:25:49
  sit there and watching. How many people are recording? That'll tell you that
• 1:25:51
  too, because they might have another recording out there that we haven't seen yet.
• 1:25:56
  Okay, here it is. I found that I have scrolled right past
• 1:25:59
  it. So I'm gonna let me see if it's a way that I could
• 1:26:02
  just kind of skip through some things. But here we go. Let's see.
• 1:26:06
  I'm waiting on it. I'm just telling my name Ari, attorney Ari
• 1:26:13
  Willians a woman kind of sound, and so we don't want to be uh,
• 1:26:25
  we don't want to. I wanted to just kind of skip through her
• 1:26:33
  talking because I, like I said, I watched the first five minutes and
• 1:26:38
  I just want to see what the I didn't hear the attorneys. Okay,
• 1:26:49
  so right, strong, strong, Oh Jesus exactly, Good morning everyone.
• 1:27:04
  My name is Attorney Brandon Brown. That's B R A N D O N
• 1:27:09
  last name Brown Bown. This morning, we found a four count complaint on
• 1:27:16
  behalf of Carlisha Hood H. This complaint has been fouled against the City of
• 1:27:20
  Chicago UH and the defendant officers who are responsible for her arrest. The complaint
• 1:27:28
  contains counts of malicious prosecution, false arrests, and intentional infliction of emotional distress.
• 1:27:38
  We do not take what happened to Miss Hood lightly and we intend to
• 1:27:44
  pursue this lawsuit and there will be additional lawsuits forthcoming. I want to add
• 1:27:49
  that Miss Hood and my show we are we recognize that there has been a
• 1:27:57
  life laws and so we we are we are praying UH for the family of
• 1:28:01
  this man who lost his life. I don't want that to be forgotten.
• 1:28:05
  H. We appreciate that lives were affected by this by this incident, and
• 1:28:11
  so we don't want to be UH. We don't want to dilute or diminish
• 1:28:15
  that. However, UH, Miss Hood and her son UH, we believe
• 1:28:21
  we're wrong, UH, and we continue to intend to pursue that. Miss
• 1:28:27
  Hood is not going to be answering any direct questions. UH. Myself UH
• 1:28:31
  and Attorney Williams will be asked answering a limited number of questions, however,
• 1:28:38
  UH, once Miss Hood has has time, and keep in mind that miss
• 1:28:42
  Hood was just released yesterday afternoon, and so she needs time. But once
• 1:28:47
  she is able to process and reconnect with her family, she will present herself
• 1:28:55
  again and we will we will make her available, but not right now.
• 1:29:00
  We're asking that you give our space. We understand that there have been a
• 1:29:03
  number of people going to our home attempting to contact her at our home.
• 1:29:10
  We also recognize that there have been things going on in the Worldwide Web that
• 1:29:17
  that may not necessary be necessarily be genuine or without mallets. And so we
• 1:29:28
  would we would ask each and every one of you out there to keep this
• 1:29:31
  family in your prayers. Protect this family, Protect this family, and I
• 1:29:36
  and and I have good reason to believe that they need protection, UM,
• 1:29:42
  and with that, we would open it up to any questions. The lawsuiters
• 1:29:49
  f out this morning in the Circuit Court of could County. So I'm gonna
• 1:29:56
  skip through some of this. So they're suing they're now suing the police department.
• 1:30:02
  So this's he's her attorney, like he's he's the attorney that has helped
• 1:30:10
  her. I'm so sorry that UM has taken on this case for her to
• 1:30:15
  file a lawsuit. They have several lawsuits, as you heard. I'm gonna
• 1:30:21
  skip through it because her actual attorney, the defense attorney, is actually there
• 1:30:28
  as well. I wanted to see if she had anything to say. Um.
• 1:30:32
  Again, I haven't had a chance to watch it in its entirety.
• 1:30:36
  Um, But before I skipped through, what are your thoughts on this?
• 1:30:43
  Brother? Just I'm trying not to seem insensitive, you know, I'm trying
• 1:30:49
  not to be insensive, not seem I'm trying not to be insensitive. But
• 1:30:53
  so I'm reading body language. The first thing they start off with with what
• 1:30:59
  you played. I don't know if that's the beginning of the first thing can
• 1:31:00
  start off with. Is her supposed to crying? Right? He does like
• 1:31:08
  this, puts her head down and then she comes up. When you cry,
• 1:31:13
  usually your eyes are red. Usual eyes show some kind of signs of
• 1:31:17
  crying. Right, Okay, I'm looking into her eyes and I don't I
• 1:31:24
  don't see I don't see her eyes. Look at it kind of way I
• 1:31:27
  see it. Look record now I'm looking at the brother. That what the
• 1:31:30
  brothers saying. And lawyers, if you know how lawyers work, if you
• 1:31:32
  ever dealt with lawyers, lawyers that give themselves their their client's time in order
• 1:31:39
  to coach them, so we don't want you. And I'm not speaking to
• 1:31:44
  the which car I'm speaking right right now, I'm speaking specifically to this lawsuit.
• 1:31:47
  Right. I'm speaking to the law because this is a payday for him,
• 1:31:53
  right, I'm not speaking to the whatever happened before that. We're talking
• 1:31:58
  about the lawsuit. Now. I see acting even looking at the brother right
• 1:32:03
  here, right, he's positioning itself to Okay, just y'all, just leave
• 1:32:09
  his family alone, and I will present her, right, I will present
• 1:32:13
  her when it's when it's time for it, you know. And and this
• 1:32:17
  this is what usually happens. You know, when you do that, they
• 1:32:19
  they coach their people on what to do. You know, it's very it's
• 1:32:25
  very strategic in what they do. So that's all I want to call.
• 1:32:30
  I happen to say that because that was bothering me, you know, certain
• 1:32:32
  things were screaming at me. So I just had to say that. So
• 1:32:35
  you go ahead. So let me let me skip through, because I believe
• 1:32:41
  that's the actual attorney right there. That um, she's the actual defense attorney.
• 1:32:46
  Let me play this part. Let me go back. Would you actually
• 1:33:00
  fact that she would be arrested? What would you do in that situation,
• 1:33:03
  and so if anyone can draw any other logical conclusion from that other than that
• 1:33:09
  she she should not be arrested. Um, I think you you understand where
• 1:33:13
  all lost Again, he's he's not why not when that there's no defending what
• 1:33:18
  what did before the shooting, But when that altercation is happening, she was
• 1:33:25
  mild than your son to come into the restaurant. So so we're not gonna
• 1:33:29
  answer that. We're not gonna answer that question. But oh yeah, that
• 1:33:32
  would be something, Um that'll come out later and I know, sorry,
• 1:33:40
  why did So there's there's video of this, right, so we're not we
• 1:33:45
  don't have to go into grade until there's video that goes over the actual attack
• 1:33:50
  and how it transpire. Right. So, again, as Brandon said,
• 1:33:53
  if you put yourself in that situation and you see how fast everything happened,
• 1:33:58
  I think you can draw reasonable inference to that question. What would question?
• 1:34:04
  My answer is to look at the video surrounding. It's clear, it's clear
• 1:34:11
  how the you see an argument. You see everything on the video. I
• 1:34:15
  mean, I'm not saying any that you aren't seen, and so you see
• 1:34:17
  how it transpired from this to this to this and events, and an individual
• 1:34:24
  that goes in there that don't know, that didn't plan for this to happen,
• 1:34:27
  that had no wants for this to happen. There's many things that can
• 1:34:31
  go through that individual's mind and her state of mind. I can't tell you
• 1:34:34
  that right now, but we're asking you to look at it from your from
• 1:34:39
  a viewer and to come up with a reasonable inferenceing it. You have a
• 1:34:43
  lawsuit, and things will go over in the lawsuit. Okay, So let
• 1:34:49
  okay, So Jules says, I do not agree with the lawsuit. I'm
• 1:34:55
  with you, Sissy. I don't agree what they'd either. Because anytime a
• 1:35:01
  person is shot, whether whether it ultimately leads to their demise or their wounded,
• 1:35:10
  this is protocol. It's standard protocol. Is you're arrested, you know,
• 1:35:16
  charges the file and they can move in one direction. They could either
• 1:35:20
  pursue additional charges or the charges could be dropped. But if I'm not mistaken,
• 1:35:27
  brother, I believe the charges were dropped with prejudice, so they can't
• 1:35:31
  come back and file additional charges again. If I'm not I'm trying to think
• 1:35:39
  did I say that correctly? I don't know. It might be backwards.
• 1:35:42
  I haven't. I haven't even looked at like I said, I would looked
• 1:35:45
  at this Stephen, like go over it. So this is my first time
• 1:35:47
  seeing it. Okay. So I'm listening to what they're saying, and that
• 1:35:53
  sounds crazy that you don't want to answer the question. Tell us, somebody,
• 1:35:56
  look at the video. Look at the video. Come out with your
• 1:35:59
  own conclusion. That is crazy as hell to me, that is nuts.
• 1:36:03
  And that's what I was And I was just about to ask you that because
• 1:36:08
  she's saying we saw the same video that she saw. Apparently we didn't because
• 1:36:17
  the cell phone video surface. And if you go back, because I played
• 1:36:23
  the news clip that said surveyed they had, I may not have played it,
• 1:36:30
  but I believe I think it did. But they did say that put
• 1:36:35
  up CPD had gotten footage from the security camera inside the establishment. So if
• 1:36:44
  y'all are only giving us a little bit here and a little bit there,
• 1:36:49
  how can you not expect us not to draw those types of conclusions if you're
• 1:36:54
  giving me bits and pieces of a situation. So that's almost as if I'm
• 1:36:58
  telling you, okay, brother, uh, I went into the store,
• 1:37:04
  uh, and that ended up in jail. They saw me put the water
• 1:37:10
  on the counter. You're gonna want to know what led what, what was
• 1:37:15
  the catalyst, What was the pivotal moment that that that launched this. Now
• 1:37:21
  I see you arguing, I see you put the water on the counter,
• 1:37:26
  But what happened that warranted you to end up being arrested? So you're gonna
• 1:37:30
  draw your own conclusion? Okay, Well, Ashley, you went in there,
• 1:37:33
  you had attitude. The cashier probably told you get out of the store,
• 1:37:39
  so you slam the water on the counter. You're probably you know what
• 1:37:42
  I'm saying without seeing everything, So looking at the you pieces of the video
• 1:37:48
  that they gave us, I'm drawing the same conclusion as everybody else. He
• 1:37:57
  shot this man two additional times when he ran out outside the building, Like
• 1:38:00
  y'all never said was he still in the building when he shot him the two
• 1:38:03
  additional times y'all say, Oh, he was trying to get away. Yeah,
• 1:38:08
  But where they I don't Maybe I can go back and looking at it,
• 1:38:15
  But did they ever say they're hiding something? And I don't. It's
• 1:38:17
  that's bothering me. They're hiding something because when she when it's almost like when
• 1:38:28
  he asked When the reporter asked the question, she mitigated it to somewhere else.
• 1:38:33
  You know, oh you saw the video directly? Yeah, she correctly,
• 1:38:38
  she deflected. She deflected right because I want to let me, let
• 1:38:43
  me play, but I want to take it back. Then nothing she was
• 1:38:46
  being for nothing. I mean, okay, so listen. But it wasn't
• 1:38:51
  good. It just wasn't a fun Was he was he did he start the
• 1:38:59
  conversation with her? What was he telling her to get out of the line?
• 1:39:02
  I mean, we pick up a little bit of what happened, but
• 1:39:05
  I guess a lot of people are trying to figure out what, how did
• 1:39:09
  it? How did it build up to miss Miss Hood doesn't even understand how
• 1:39:15
  we built up? Oh Jesus, it was a vicious attack for no reason.
• 1:39:23
  So again I think that's where I'm lost. That is what escally,
• 1:39:30
  What was the catalyst too for it to come to this result? What was
• 1:39:35
  what was the what you're saying? What did you say? My mind just
• 1:39:40
  literally went inial. What was the initial conflicts? What was started it?
• 1:39:45
  What set it off? Did he did he bump into her? Did he
• 1:39:49
  for sure? Did he jump it? Because again I heard three four different
• 1:39:55
  stories, one set old he jumped in front of the line. Um.
• 1:40:00
  Then it was another one said that he was rushing the people in the back,
• 1:40:05
  that he had ordered his food already and he was coming up. I
• 1:40:09
  heard so many different stories. What started? What was the initial because we
• 1:40:15
  knew that, we know the end result. We know this young this man
• 1:40:18
  lost his life. We saw where he kept telling her, ma'am, get
• 1:40:24
  your food. I promise, man, I'm gonna hit you. I'm gonna
• 1:40:27
  punch you. We get that, But what was the catalyst, what provoked
• 1:40:34
  what insighted it? We see, we see her I'm in agreement with everybody.
• 1:40:40
  She wasn't hostile, she wasn't I raped, she wasn't belligerent, she
• 1:40:44
  wasn't ignorant with him. You know, she didn't jump in his face or
• 1:40:46
  anything. She didn't put her hand, We see that. But what led
• 1:40:50
  to it? Was it something he said? You know, I'm just wanting
• 1:40:56
  to know what was the catalyst for y'all to say we're dropping the charges,
• 1:41:02
  so the thing is right and now we're following this lawsuit. For her to
• 1:41:06
  say that that woman don't know, it's a blatant lie because she was there,
• 1:41:10
  she knows what the first words. She knows. She knows what the
• 1:41:14
  first thing was said or what prompted them to have even have this interaction.
• 1:41:17
  She knows, But that was a blatant lie. I'm sorry, that's a
• 1:41:20
  lie. She does know that, because you're gonna know if you're in a
• 1:41:27
  situation, you're gonna know. Well, I said ABCDFG to him, or
• 1:41:32
  he bumped into me, and I like, hold up, wait a minute,
• 1:41:36
  like you're not gonna say you know what I'm saying. I know I
• 1:41:41
  stepped on his Jordans, you know some shit something, right, So this
• 1:41:45
  is kind of where I'm baf for that. And y'all in the audience that
• 1:41:48
  are watching, what are your thoughts on this so far? So she just
• 1:41:54
  got released from jail yesterday, her and the Sun. Now this lawsuit is
• 1:41:59
  being fired. Let me say something real quick. So the thing is right,
• 1:42:04
  and this is what it seems like. Let's strike what the fire while
• 1:42:08
  the fire is hot, right, while we have the of the public,
• 1:42:12
  Let's strike and ride this way to get you paid. That's just what it
• 1:42:15
  seems like to me. Right. This is just me looking at the body
• 1:42:18
  language. Listen to what they're saying to the questions, how they're evasive,
• 1:42:23
  how they're they're not really answering things direct, they're not they're deflecting a lot
• 1:42:28
  of stuff. I'm not going to answer that. No, this is all
• 1:42:31
  this needs to do. This needs to be known absolutely. Or are they
• 1:42:38
  trying to keep a lot of things hush hush so not to so not the
• 1:42:45
  real story. Maybe she was the aggressor in the situation in the beginning.
• 1:42:49
  Maybe she was. That's the thing. We need to know this. We
• 1:42:53
  didn't know this the farm, real real opinions, right, we have feelings
• 1:42:58
  based on partial were partial facts. We are partial facts. So you've only
• 1:43:04
  given us bits and pieces, And again, who's to say because I and
• 1:43:10
  again this is not I'm not victim blaming because I've been a victim of domestic
• 1:43:15
  violence, so by no means, but I'm gonna play devil's advocate for just
• 1:43:18
  a moment. Who's to say, because again, y'all, we're only getting
• 1:43:26
  bits and pieces of the video. We're only getting what the media is telling
• 1:43:30
  us. So who's to say that when he came in and she didn't know,
• 1:43:35
  maybe again, maybe he called. And this is in no way,
• 1:43:39
  shape or form a defense of Jeremy Brown because he fucked around and found out.
• 1:43:45
  But at the end of the day, there's two sides to every story,
• 1:43:50
  well three sides, because we have his story, her story, his
• 1:43:55
  side, us side, and then somewhere in their truth lies the middle.
• 1:43:59
  So I'm gonna play Devil's advocate for a moment. So who's to say he
• 1:44:02
  didn't call it? Because they look like the type of place where you can
• 1:44:04
  call in your food and go pick it up. So again, who's to
• 1:44:09
  say he didn't go in there? And maybe he didn't know because I've seen
• 1:44:15
  this a lot of times. You go into restaurant, people don't ask if
• 1:44:16
  you have you ordered. People just walk up to the count if they see
• 1:44:19
  you're standing off to the side. Maybe she's still looking at the menu.
• 1:44:23
  I don't know. Maybe she had already ordered a food and maybe she was
• 1:44:27
  just standing there. But who's to say she wasn't the aggressor in this situation.
• 1:44:32
  Let's play Devil's advocate on that for just a moment. But for you
• 1:44:38
  to say she does not know why? You know what what escalated? Do
• 1:44:45
  you know what started the situation? That's what we're missing. What was the
• 1:44:51
  reason. There's no excuse for him jumping on her. So by no means
• 1:44:56
  I don't want anyone to feel like, oh, she's blamed. No,
• 1:44:58
  I'm not blaming the big but I'm playing devil's advocate because there's a big chunk
• 1:45:04
  that we're missing. All we see is the aftermat. We don't see what's
• 1:45:12
  started. We see the physical altercation, and we hear the gunshot, but
• 1:45:18
  we're missing that first maybe five or six, seven minutes of it. I
• 1:45:26
  don't know, maybe we're missing the first and there's a big chunk because you
• 1:45:31
  see when they're getting the car leave, but you don't see what happened in
• 1:45:34
  between. And that's a problem. That's a problem for me. I'm sorry,
• 1:45:38
  that's just a problem because what if he was only shot once and not
• 1:45:42
  the three times that they're allegedly saying. So there's again at the end.
• 1:45:50
  So I'm gonna continue on a few a few minutes, a couple more seconds
• 1:45:54
  into the video, and then we'll just just completely jump back into the conversation.
• 1:46:01
  Cold Leader. Yes, i'd advide. You know you said that there
• 1:46:08
  might be some other charges in the future. I wondered the excessive bond three
• 1:46:16
  billion dollars, a definite rush to judgment and there was a number of other
• 1:46:23
  kind of charges, mad flour, second degree murder, all kinds of charges.
• 1:46:31
  I just find that very difficult to wrap my brain about any of this,
• 1:46:39
  especially for a person who has a clean record. I mean, she
• 1:46:44
  didn't have all these criminal charges that the other you know, that kind of
• 1:46:50
  bell. I'm just wondering how what was the state's attorney thinking, What was
• 1:46:57
  the judge thinking when they could just come up with something so redict three million
• 1:47:04
  dollars? They don't get three million dollars when they've mowed down nine people on
• 1:47:10
  the church. So these other people I've heard because I haven't seen the video,
• 1:47:18
  only the snippett dispen on TV, but I've heard people talking about extra
• 1:47:24
  security in that store. If you're the next person in line, you're giving
• 1:47:29
  your money to somebody, and that person that you gave the money to,
• 1:47:36
  what was wrong with him that he could accept your money? He can't say,
• 1:47:42
  hey, look at like we got a line here. I think I
• 1:47:45
  think, Oh, the overall answer to your question, there are many things
• 1:47:49
  that were rushed in this case. There are many things that shouldn't have happened,
• 1:47:54
  and we agree with that, and we're thankful that the Cotoony states dismissed
• 1:47:58
  the charge and that she's he free. She doesn't have to worry about posting
• 1:48:01
  that three million dollars bill because she doesn't have to worry about those charges.
• 1:48:09
  Yeah, I had a question the first thank you for doing this, where
• 1:48:15
  you got to know this healing process is going to start. You guys can
• 1:48:16
  answer, but I know she's not going to speak. But like the community
• 1:48:19
  is wondering. You see this on social media. Everybody's saying, you know,
• 1:48:23
  what's the next for them? Though? Is fourteen year is gonna get
• 1:48:26
  therapy? Like what's happening? I know it's only a day since you've didn't
• 1:48:29
  help, but if you guys can get into that. And then also people
• 1:48:32
  are concerned about you know, retaliation things like that with all of this happening,
• 1:48:38
  what do you say to that. Well, as far as the family
• 1:48:45
  getting help, we don't want to go into that, but I can assure
• 1:48:46
  you that they will be getting helping assistance and we have received countless contacts for
• 1:48:55
  people wanting to help. So thank you. Thank you for that question.
• 1:49:00
  And as far as the threats of retaliation for retaliation that I've been going out,
• 1:49:05
  we are aware of those threats. And again that's we talked about it
• 1:49:10
  earlier, were asking that you keep this family in prayer. We've asked,
• 1:49:15
  we're asking that this family be prayed for, that they be protected. I
• 1:49:18
  think one of the things that I don't want to fail to mention is the
• 1:49:27
  the number of people in this community, in our community, throughout the city
• 1:49:30
  of Chicago, fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, grandfathers, They are
• 1:49:41
  with this family. And I strongly and I truly believe that this community is
• 1:49:46
  going to protect this family. And so any threats being made against this family
• 1:49:50
  is being made against the entire city of Chicago, in the entire Black community.
• 1:49:56
  And so I I while we're praying for the family, and we understand
• 1:50:00
  that people are hurt, UM, I think it should be noted and known
• 1:50:05
  that this community, this city has stood up for this family and stood up
• 1:50:09
  for this morning her son. Uh. And And I don't I don't want
• 1:50:15
  to go too deep uh and say say the wrong thing, um, but
• 1:50:21
  UH should the fathers and sons of our community, of the black community,
• 1:50:27
  to come together. It's a sleeping giant, UM, and so one of
• 1:50:32
  the community. And keep in mind, we're not gonna go into the details
• 1:50:36
  of misshod But this is an upstanding citizen. She is a servant, she
• 1:50:41
  is a steward of this city. She was brutally attacked and she was arrested,
• 1:50:45
  and she shouldn't have done an hour in jail. Put yourself in that
• 1:50:49
  situation. Everything I worked hard for being hardness. Yeah, so that's what
• 1:50:56
  that's what we would say for them. I know you said to explasure,
• 1:51:00
  so we have it on tape. Prosecutors approve these churches. You have a
• 1:51:05
  homicide and people responsible left to see it at homicide? What did the police
• 1:51:10
  do wrong in arresting you. We're going to direct all questions as to the
• 1:51:15
  substance of the litigation to the complaint. Again, as we've mentioned, we
• 1:51:19
  will we will represent Mishood at a later date, But as far as anything
• 1:51:25
  to the substance of the complaint, we ask that you review the complaint.
• 1:51:28
  We lay out our version of the facts and the legal arguments, and the
• 1:51:31
  complaint we think is sufficient and substantial, and any question that you have,
• 1:51:35
  we'd ask that you review the complaint first. What we don't want to do
• 1:51:41
  is have a nuanced legal discussion here at a press conference. While I appreciate
• 1:51:45
  that everyone here is sophisticated. We would never leave if I broke down the
• 1:51:51
  legal detail and the legal nuance of how what the law is for a malicious
• 1:51:56
  prosecution and false arrest in the state Illinois. So please we ask that you
• 1:52:00
  just take the complaint as sufficient and at a later date we can talk further
• 1:52:06
  about it. Do you have an answer from the attorney's office about why initially
• 1:52:12
  the charges came down since if you look at the video, you're explaining that
• 1:52:17
  she's the viction of this. So where is the basis of the charges to
• 1:52:21
  begin with? What was incriminating about it? Yes, I think the video
• 1:52:26
  speaks for itself. I think everybody saw the video. The entire country has
• 1:52:29
  seen the video. We as we have mentioned, we thank the state's Attorney's
• 1:52:35
  office for me for doing the right thing. Okay, yeah, I'm done
• 1:52:39
  with that part. Let me just take that all out, because again this
• 1:52:45
  is my first time watching it with you, because again I watched the first
• 1:52:48
  five minutes where she was crying. The video speaks for itself. No,
• 1:52:55
  they ask you a direct question. They ask you a direct question. What
• 1:53:00
  the reason that they arrested her was the What was the initial reason they arrested
• 1:53:04
  her. First of all, say fleeing the scene, that would have been
• 1:53:08
  easy. She fled. They gotta because she left the scene of a crime
• 1:53:12
  and they had to do this. This is standard procedure. Any lawyer would
• 1:53:15
  have said that, I'm sorry, this is standard procedure when you do that.
• 1:53:17
  But if you're trying to make somebody a victim of the system, you're
• 1:53:20
  not gonna say that because you're not gonna want to give them anything. To
• 1:53:24
  that aspect, that is a wow, that's crazy. I am unitition,
• 1:53:28
  And like I said, I watched the first five minutes of it. I
• 1:53:30
  just went on because I stopped it at the part where the where the black
• 1:53:35
  man started talking, because he is the actual law firm that she took on
• 1:53:42
  to file the lawsuit. The lady that was next to her with the braids
• 1:53:45
  was her actual defense attorney, was the attorney that represented her and getting these
• 1:53:49
  these charges dropped. And as you can see, I believe they were dropped
• 1:53:55
  with outre I want to say, without prejudice, because they can't come back
• 1:54:00
  and and refile charges against her. So I believe it's I'm gonna get back
• 1:54:04
  to you on that one. I think it's with I think it's without prejudice.
• 1:54:10
  I think when they drop without prejudice, they can't come back later on
• 1:54:15
  and decide they want to file charges, and I think with prejudice is where
• 1:54:18
  they can. But I believe they did this without prejudice. So that's why
• 1:54:24
  they said, Uh, she's free. Uh she doesn't have to worry about
• 1:54:28
  these charges coming back up because I believe they dropped them without prejudice. So
• 1:54:31
  I believe that's what it is. But I will say this, there are
• 1:54:38
  no winners in the situation. Nobody wins. No nobody wins. You have
• 1:54:43
  two families that are hurting, you know, there there's no disagreement on that.
• 1:54:48
  Could could this have gone a different way? Absolutely? And again,
• 1:54:55
  in no way am I blaming miss Hood because of course she has the freedom
• 1:54:59
  to move up out the way that she wants, you know, protected,
• 1:55:01
  unprotected. How do you want to do it. She's a grown woman,
• 1:55:04
  You're free to do whatever. And again maybe she was thinking, we've been
• 1:55:10
  to this place before at this time of night. I ain't never had to
• 1:55:15
  bring my peace in here. But I think the part that I missed,
• 1:55:18
  that maybe I misunderstood was the security part where they talking about the establishment had
• 1:55:26
  extra security, they were paying extra security at the establishment. Maybe I just
• 1:55:30
  need to go back and rewatch this again. But I want you you're you're,
• 1:55:36
  you're just plus they said why they didn't take her money. So that's
• 1:55:42
  another issue, which if she came first, didn't you think she would have
• 1:55:45
  paid for her thing? Didn't you think she would have paid for if she
• 1:55:49
  came first, Right, So that's ye, That's the point I was getting
• 1:55:55
  to was, maybe did he call in his you know, I need to
• 1:56:00
  know the beginning she's saying. Okay, So since it says okay, she
• 1:56:11
  said it would have to be with prejudice in order for those charges not to
• 1:56:15
  be picked up. Okay, I knew it was one of the other I
• 1:56:16
  knew it. Okay, yeah, with prejudice in order for Yeah, so
• 1:56:20
  it had to been dropped with prejudice. I'll look up. I'll look that
• 1:56:24
  up because apparently the lawsuit that they filed, the civil lawsuit or whatever it
• 1:56:30
  is that they're filing against Cook County Police Department, is available, so I
• 1:56:33
  had to look that up. So since it says it will be with prejudice,
• 1:56:36
  okay, thank you. Since I wasn't sure if it was with or
• 1:56:40
  without prejudice. I always thought without prejudice they could. But she says it's
• 1:56:45
  with so and again, in no way, shape or form, am I
• 1:56:50
  blaming this hood because she's the victim. She is, We've established that.
• 1:56:58
  But y'all are missing we as as a community. We're missing the beginning and
• 1:57:05
  the end because well, I won't let me say this. I won't say
• 1:57:12
  we're missing the end because we knew the end result. Jemmy Brown lost his
• 1:57:15
  life. We know the end result. But did he shoot the man three
• 1:57:21
  times? We know he shot once, we know that, but then they
• 1:57:26
  say he shot two or three more times after that as mister Brown was leaving,
• 1:57:30
  was he still in when he shot him twice? Or was he outside
• 1:57:34
  the building when he shot two more times? Why did she flee the scene
• 1:57:39
  of a crime if you didn't do anything wrong? Because to me looking at
• 1:57:45
  it as if I was an attorney or I was a prosecutor, If you're
• 1:57:50
  the victim, why didn't you stay? Yep? Why did you leave?
• 1:58:00
  Because that should have been another charge and the scene of a crime, because
• 1:58:04
  now someone is dead because he died. Didn't he died on the scene or
• 1:58:09
  he died at that he died. He died either on the way to the
• 1:58:12
  hospital, at the hospital. Okay, so you still left. So somewhere
• 1:58:18
  along those lines, somebody dropped the ball on that. Somebody dropped the ball
• 1:58:25
  on that, brother, what he give me? Give me your two cents,
• 1:58:30
  and they had to they had to come back and turn himself in,
• 1:58:31
  and they turned himself in on Wednesday. I think I had it. Yeah,
• 1:58:40
  So I don't know how many days between she was in she was in
• 1:58:43
  there for five because she was in there for five days because she was just
• 1:58:45
  released yesterday. So yesterday was Monday. So let's count back five days.
• 1:58:53
  So that was so, let me see Monday. So she had to turn
• 1:59:02
  herself in on Saturday because she spent five days. They say she was in
• 1:59:08
  that five days. She got released Monday, right yesterday? Well yeah,
• 1:59:12
  Monday, Well Friday, Thursday, I think it was Thursday, Thursday,
• 1:59:18
  so she because yesterday was Monday, she was released yesterday, so Thursday,
• 1:59:23
  okay, yeah, so she turned herself on Thursday. Somebody has go ahead,
• 1:59:30
  go ahead, brother, I'm about to see because I'm trying to see
• 1:59:32
  when the eighteenth was, so you know how long it tween Saturday the eighteenth
• 1:59:38
  was Saturday. No, it was a it was a Sunday. The eighteenth
• 1:59:42
  was a Sunday. So she turned herself in three days later. Hold on,
• 1:59:49
  let me make sure because today is the twenty's today. So she turned
• 1:59:58
  herself on Thursday. Yeah, so yeah, so this happened on a side
• 2:00:04
  on Sunday, Thursday, because she went in with her attorney. She went
• 2:00:11
  in, she turned us up in her and her son with their attorney.
• 2:00:15
  Yeah. Yeah, So that many days happened between the fact time that it
• 2:00:18
  happened and they turned herself in. So why why is this? Why?
• 2:00:24
  You know, we have to understand why it took us so long to do
• 2:00:27
  that. You actually fled the scene of a crime of an active he was
• 2:00:34
  dead by them. It was an active, active homicide basically. So that
• 2:00:42
  also, there's so many damn holes in this damn story it is. It
• 2:00:47
  makes sense. It makes no sense. And that's what because typically and in
• 2:00:55
  a lot of these cases that me and you see a lot of these cases
• 2:00:58
  that me and you'll talk about, it typically takes maybe a week, maybe
• 2:01:04
  a month before they even dropped charges. So I want to know, we're
• 2:01:14
  missing the middle. We're missing the middle. And we're missing the beginning and
• 2:01:24
  we know the end result. We know the demise, the demise of Jeremy
• 2:01:27
  Brown. We know this. But a lot of times they would have had
• 2:01:31
  they would have said, oh, something came up. When they say mitigating
• 2:01:36
  evidence came to life, any other story, they'll say, hey, we
• 2:01:42
  had a witness that came forward. Witness says ABC D, E F G.
• 2:01:46
  And then two also brother. Don't forget the girlfriend lied. Now that
• 2:01:53
  that part came out where the girlfriend lied and said that the mother told the
• 2:01:59
  son to shoot her. Well, witnesses that were there didn't collaborate this,
• 2:02:01
  so they had to that. That could have been another slice. But but
• 2:02:06
  that's only one piece that I mean, that's right, that's not even a
• 2:02:11
  tempted murder. Because the thing is if they would have, if they would
• 2:02:14
  have point the gun at her, from what I get, they never the
• 2:02:16
  son never allowed the mother to get the gun from what I hear it right,
• 2:02:19
  right, So that's not even a charge there. If meet me saying
• 2:02:24
  maybe terroristic threats maybe maybe, okay, um I need I'm gonna kill that
• 2:02:29
  bit, you know, maybe that's terrorist maybe, but that's not even a
• 2:02:31
  charge. That's that doesn't happen to anything to do with the man part of
• 2:02:34
  the case. The man being killed party, that's nothing to do with that.
• 2:02:39
  Her her stuff and some sidebar shit you know that. Yes, she
• 2:02:43
  lied, Okay, that's sidebar shit. Okay, whatever, you know,
• 2:02:45
  let's talk about the meat. But taylors of this case, which is what
• 2:02:48
  happened transpired between the first shot and this man being dead, that's all.
• 2:02:55
  That's all this case has to come down to. And we don't have that
• 2:02:58
  information. And then if you go back and you look at the video,
• 2:03:03
  is she taking the gun from the sun because they say she tried to wrestle
• 2:03:06
  the gun away from the sun, Like if you look at it doesn't look
• 2:03:11
  like she's wrestling with him it all, you know what I'm saying. And
• 2:03:16
  why did she go back and building? Also she went back in the building,
• 2:03:19
  So I don't understand where that fits in. So there we are.
• 2:03:31
  I just I'm gonna say this and we're gonna go ahead and start wrapping up.
• 2:03:40
  But we definitely have to pray for the mental of this of this baby
• 2:03:46
  because lives have been changed in this. You have a mother that has to
• 2:03:56
  tend to her son's mental and then you have a family that has two children
• 2:04:02
  without a father. Could this have gone a completely different way? I think
• 2:04:08
  so. Again, in no shape way a farm in my saying, miss
• 2:04:14
  Hood is responsible for this because she didn't, because she didn't wake up that
• 2:04:17
  day and say, my fourteen year old child is gonna kill somebody. I
• 2:04:21
  don't believe that. I believe that she's gone to this establishment multiple times before
• 2:04:28
  at this time of night, and I'm with you, why didn't you carry
• 2:04:32
  a gun with you inside the store? Again? Maybe because she's been to
• 2:04:38
  this establishment multiple times, She's never had an incident like this before, altercation
• 2:04:44
  whatever you want to call a disagreement to where she felt like she needed to
• 2:04:47
  carry it in the store in this in this food establishment. But as a
• 2:04:53
  woman, and with the attack on women in this day and age, you
• 2:05:00
  ladies better, y'all better get locked and loaded around here. Y'all better start
• 2:05:03
  learning how to shoot these guns. Y'all better start protecting yourself, because this
• 2:05:09
  is a prime example amongst the countless other issues that are going on in this
• 2:05:14
  world that what could happen in a split second. This woman could have lost
• 2:05:19
  the life, her son could have lost his life, somebody else in their
• 2:05:23
  establishment could have lost their life because we're not looking at it from that way.
• 2:05:27
  Who's to say that when the sun fired, he may not have even
• 2:05:30
  hit mister Brown. What if you hit another patron in there actually could hit
• 2:05:34
  the mama. He could hit the mama. Think about it was direct right,
• 2:05:38
  he could have hit his mother, so another way too, or whoever
• 2:05:44
  that man that was standing close to her prior to him moving back, because
• 2:05:48
  who's to say the gun wouldn't have recalled? You get what I'm saying.
• 2:05:51
  So many, so many instances in this circums, in this situation, and
• 2:05:59
  again no one's aware her. My heart goes out to the Hood family,
• 2:06:02
  Absolutely it does. My heart goes out to the Brown family because your son,
• 2:06:10
  father, boyfriend, whatever, cousin, uncle should have kept his hands
• 2:06:14
  to itself. Because that did not warrant you to put your hands on this
• 2:06:18
  woman. I could see if this woman had physically done something to you.
• 2:06:25
  I could see if she, you know, had a handing, you know,
• 2:06:28
  doing all of this. I could see if she jumped in your face.
• 2:06:30
  I could see if she slapped, don't I could see that. But
• 2:06:38
  there was nothing this woman did that warranted you to put your hands on and
• 2:06:43
  mister Brown, so now your actions were the results of the consequences were the
• 2:06:51
  result of your actions. Let me correct that. Okay, So, mister
• 2:06:56
  Brown, you didn't think about your children? Every One saying, oh,
• 2:07:00
  he's the father of twin daughters. You didn't think about your daughters in this
• 2:07:03
  point, because what if this was your daughters? Yea, what if this
• 2:07:08
  was yoursel and a man did that to her, would the energy still be
• 2:07:13
  the same. And I'm gonna end with that one. I'm gonna let you
• 2:07:17
  close it. Our brothers on you. So yeah, Um, I'm gonna
• 2:07:23
  reiterate what you just reiterated. Um, she was not to blame for this
• 2:07:27
  whole situation. She wasn't to blame for it. She did nothing for what
• 2:07:30
  we seemed to provoke. The man put in his answer, there's no there's
• 2:07:33
  no excuse for what this man did to no excuse. I can't. I
• 2:07:38
  can't excuse his actions. Off. He's one hundred percent wrong in that matter.
• 2:07:41
  But what I can say as a parent, right, I can say
• 2:07:45
  that her actions were not smart as a parent. His actions as a father.
• 2:07:50
  They talked about his kid's damn that he did he did. We supposed
• 2:07:54
  we he did. He got what he supposed to get, right, I
• 2:07:56
  can't even work if he wasn't worried about his kids. I can't worry his
• 2:08:00
  kids at that moment. So I'm not even gonna talk about that. As
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  a parent. He was totally irresponsible because he's no, he's no longer here
• 2:08:05
  to provide for his children and protect his children. So that's that part of
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  it. But as her part of it, it was not smart. As
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  a parent, we have to be smarter if we have something to lose.
• 2:08:18
  She has something to lose, her son has something to lose. Right,
• 2:08:22
  So as a parent, I can say that she's not to blame, but
• 2:08:24
  also can say she wasn't smart in a situation. She wasn't being smart,
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  And it's not blaming the victim of just saying, you know, we have
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  choice to make, and every choice we make, we have to make sure
• 2:08:35
  that that choice is the right choice for that situation and how it's going to
• 2:08:39
  affect the people around us, How does it affect our kids, how's it
• 2:08:43
  going to affect our loved ones? You know, like you said, it
• 2:08:46
  could have went totally wrong that man. If if Jeremy Brown would have moved,
• 2:08:50
  maybe a made an erratic move before that boy shot the gun. His
• 2:08:54
  mother could have been shot in the chest, the stomach or something like that.
• 2:08:56
  Then we have a whole other situation where this boy would at his mother's
• 2:09:01
  life or death on his hands. It could have been that situation. So
• 2:09:05
  we can't like, is a community right the man the man in that video
• 2:09:09
  talking about the communities behind the right. But as a community, we need
• 2:09:11
  to understand that there there are all kinds of ways that we can We can't
• 2:09:16
  go about this situation and come to a resolution and come to a safe resolution.
• 2:09:20
  Rather than saying somebody should have jumped on this man, or somebody should
• 2:09:24
  have escalated the situation, how about de escalate the situation. How about trying
• 2:09:28
  to do that. We are so ra rod ready to get the ready to
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  go in guns blazes and are ready to start getting amped up with a situation
• 2:09:37
  that was already amped up. That's not how you That's not how you handle
• 2:09:39
  situations are amped up. You de escalated, you say something, you try
• 2:09:43
  to peel this person's better nature. How about doing that? That's where we
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  need as a community, right. We have we have too many people trying
• 2:09:52
  to be the Malcolm x's and it took for us to get where we at
• 2:09:54
  today. It took Malcolm also, it took Malcolm and Martin in order to
• 2:09:58
  get where we at. So we need to have some people that that that
• 2:10:01
  talk about peace in this situation, talking about um ladies, Yes, concealed
• 2:10:07
  carry. That's that's why I want to add to what you were saying.
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  One hundred. Hey, your second rememberment, right, you need to execute
• 2:10:13
  exercise your second a member, right. Carry It's dangerous out here. Men
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  can Black men cannot be everywhere you are. They can't just walk around behind
• 2:10:22
  you and protect you. You have to be you have to be your first
• 2:10:24
  protection. So yes, carry your weapon. Um, but when you when
• 2:10:28
  you do that, go take classes, you know, take safety class.
• 2:10:31
  Don't your child should never have your weapon. That boy should not have had
• 2:10:37
  that weapon. That was not smart. And my last thing I'm gonna say
• 2:10:43
  is just that, um, you know, go into situations understanding that you
• 2:10:48
  can't control. The situation wants its files out of control, you know.
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  Um, Like I said, the escalation is always the best first step to
• 2:10:58
  you know, leaving with your life or or leaving with your livelihood. Because
• 2:11:03
  this woman life is turned upside down. No matter what you want to think
• 2:11:07
  about she won. She didn't win. No, she didn't win. She
• 2:11:13
  has a life, she has a life, but she her life is turned
• 2:11:16
  upside down and her son turned upside down because no matter where she goes,
• 2:11:24
  her and the Sun will always have a target on their back. I don't
• 2:11:26
  care if she moves to a whole other state. They know who you are,
• 2:11:31
  they know your face. And again, I pray that this does not
• 2:11:39
  escalate into something further where we see her or her son. You you get
• 2:11:43
  what I'm saying. Yeah, And another thing I want to say is if
• 2:11:48
  the community is behind her, why is the community not behind the thousands of
• 2:11:54
  other black children, black men, and black women that are killed daily in
• 2:11:58
  Chicago. That's the only question I had is if y'all can rally behind her,
• 2:12:03
  rally behind everyone else in that community. And that's a problem nowadays.
• 2:12:11
  People are scared to fight, people are scared to take people. Let me
• 2:12:16
  tell you this, pride is the hell of a drug. Do you hear
• 2:12:20
  me. I'm gonna say this. I'd rather walk away with my life and
• 2:12:31
  less more of my pride and my dignity because I can always regain my pride
• 2:12:35
  and my dignity back my life. I cannot. I would never put my
• 2:12:39
  son in a situation. And now that you know, talking to you,
• 2:12:41
  brother, and listen until you break it down. It could have won a
• 2:12:46
  whole other way. Could she have left? Part of me is saying yeah,
• 2:12:54
  But then the other part of me is like, but she was there
• 2:12:56
  first, you know, like she was she didn't but maybe I could right
• 2:13:05
  right, And that's why I say maybe if I had the whole thing,
• 2:13:09
  I could make a better sound sounding judgment. But from what I see or
• 2:13:15
  what we've seen, you know, as the people the community of the world,
• 2:13:20
  it looked like she really she really didn't have anywhere to It was almost
• 2:13:24
  like a snake and a lion, you know it. You know, could
• 2:13:28
  she have really gotten around him and maybe he still would a hit her?
• 2:13:33
  Who knows? But ladies, parents, and this is for fathers too.
• 2:13:41
  Y'all be smart and wise instead of and I really don't want to call y'all
• 2:13:46
  stupid, but make better decisions, especially when you have your children with you.
• 2:13:52
  You know, if you don't have your children, do whatever you want
• 2:13:54
  to do. Get foot loose, franci for if you want to add the
• 2:13:56
  fool cut up. Okay, go right on ahead. But I have to
• 2:14:01
  agree with you, brother on this. I have to agree. I'm never
• 2:14:03
  gonna put my jeopardize my children's lives over something. Soul Minor. I gotta
• 2:14:11
  agree with you. I have to a thousand percent to Tsha, I gotta
• 2:14:15
  agree with you too. I would never put my fourteen year old child in
• 2:14:20
  a situation. I definitely get it, because again, it could have went
• 2:14:24
  all types of ways. What if that boy would what if Jeremy would have
• 2:14:26
  turned around and tackled the boy for the gun and he and the boy would
• 2:14:31
  have got shot. You know. So I'm looking at it now that you've
• 2:14:37
  You've given me a broader spectrum to look at. Now I'm looking at it
• 2:14:41
  full of you and not just full of screen, if that makes sense to
• 2:14:45
  you. So now I see because, like I said, just looking at
• 2:14:48
  this, I was just like mm oh, car Lisa. But now it's
• 2:14:54
  just like what happened at the beginning. How can you not know what started
• 2:15:01
  the argument? How could you not know? I don't get it. And
• 2:15:07
  we don't even have a video when Jeremy walked in the store, think about
• 2:15:11
  it, so we don't know if he was there. Why do you all
• 2:15:13
  show that he went in the store. Why did you show that she went
• 2:15:16
  in the store. You showed the video who's going to store? You show
• 2:15:20
  that, we showed the video of him beating on her. Yeah, you
• 2:15:24
  show that. Don't show what led up to it. If if there's surveillance,
• 2:15:31
  can't Okay, there's a security camera in this a statima. I believe
• 2:15:35
  they say it's like two or three. But the one, if you look,
• 2:15:39
  there was one that was pointing directly at the counter, so it would
• 2:15:43
  have caused the whole altercation. The other why are you not giving us all
• 2:15:48
  the angles, all the camera angles so when it's smoking fire. That's all
• 2:15:58
  I'm gonna say about that. There is something that they don't want to us.
• 2:16:03
  They don't want us to know something. Yeah, they're they're they're using
• 2:16:07
  they're using emotions against us, and we as black people need to need to
• 2:16:09
  understand this has been done for us historically forever. They if the government is
• 2:16:15
  always uses tactic to get us to sway and do things that they want us
• 2:16:18
  to do. It's about we start getting smartest community and start asking better questions.
• 2:16:24
  Ask questions to sway and the way to sway is your emotions. So
• 2:16:31
  let's showed the video. Let's only show this part, the twenty seconds where
• 2:16:39
  he's bob Bob. Let's show that because guess what, and I'm only speaking
• 2:16:45
  as a domestic violence survivor, that's going to prompt us to get out there.
• 2:16:52
  Hell yeah, we got to get him. Yeah, Oh yes,
• 2:16:56
  she killed him? Oh yes she. So this is where seventy five to
• 2:17:01
  eight of the favor is coming from. It's because she's now she's even though
• 2:17:09
  they were not in a relationship, she's still now a domestic violence victim.
• 2:17:16
  So why not? Because right now domestic violence is at all time high in
• 2:17:22
  the black community. So let's we got to play that card. But any
• 2:17:30
  other time, any other situation, they would have showed every angle on that
• 2:17:35
  camera. This is when mister Brown, because you see, they only showed
• 2:17:39
  suspect one suspect too, which is the mother and the son. They never
• 2:17:43
  showed when mister Brown was in the store. How do we know he wasn't
• 2:17:48
  already in there? I got another I got another thing, right, How
• 2:17:52
  many times a black man have got killed and never brought everything about this black
• 2:17:58
  man up in forefront? How many times have that happened. They always do
• 2:18:03
  that, so why didn't Why don't they delve into Jeremy Brown and everything else
• 2:18:07
  going on him to show him, highlight him, now, why they haven't
• 2:18:11
  done that. They're doing it, uh, just not in a they're doing
• 2:18:16
  it on social media because I've seen posts where all of a sudden, he
• 2:18:22
  likes men. Okay, okay, so we're talking about mainstream media. We're
• 2:18:30
  talking about mainstream media. What I'm saying, yeah, this is gone media
• 2:18:35
  as right, Yeah, yeah, he's gone from all we see why he's
• 2:18:39
  like this. People saying, oh he's They pulled out his arrest record,
• 2:18:43
  but the media hasn't done that. So that's why I say all of this
• 2:18:50
  is alleged. Allegedly he beat the girlfriend up a few weeks ago, he
• 2:18:56
  sets stuff on fire in her apartment. He's been arrested for this. If
• 2:19:00
  someone says, oh, he's this angry man, he's known as the knockout
• 2:19:03
  king in Chicago, all this I've seen social media. But CNN and and
• 2:19:09
  you know, MSNBC and A no, and that will be ever because it's
• 2:19:16
  a story. There's a story there, so it was something there. They
• 2:19:20
  would they would already presented that I'm sorry. I have a problem. I
• 2:19:22
  have a problem with that because every other black man that's been killed, they've
• 2:19:28
  always brought put their path. George Floyd, yep, disturbing tray ViOn Martin.
• 2:19:35
  They had pictures of tray ViOn Martin smoking weed. Was this and so
• 2:19:41
  I'm right there with you. So until you can give me and we probably
• 2:19:48
  will will never ever get the truth. We'll never get it. Uh this,
• 2:19:56
  hood, I pray for you and your son. I do. I
• 2:20:03
  pray for you and your son. And that's just ladies, be smart,
• 2:20:11
  protect yourself, get armed, because I'm telling you, the attack on black
• 2:20:16
  women is in full force now, full force, full swing. So brother,
• 2:20:22
  So we're closing out this show, but Thursday, if you're not busy,
• 2:20:26
  I definitely want your input. Uh So, Thursday night, y'all,
• 2:20:31
  I will be talking about the three San Antonio police officers that killed the forty
• 2:20:35
  six year old Hispanic woman um who was under mental the stress. She was
• 2:20:43
  having a mental illness. Uh, read up on it because they've charged the
• 2:20:50
  video recently. I don't I think so. I think so. But on
• 2:20:56
  the head or something like that. No, that's something totally different. This
• 2:21:01
  lady, this happened in San Antonio. Three UH. San Antonio police officers
• 2:21:05
  were initially called out to a lady that was about a lady that was cutting
• 2:21:11
  a fire security alarm or something. They spoke with a woman, took you
• 2:21:16
  know, name and all the information and the woman went in the house where
• 2:21:20
  they were trying to entice the woman to come back outside to the point where
• 2:21:24
  they hopped over her balcony and snatched the screen off of her window. And
• 2:21:31
  at this point she threw a hammer. Well, she was telling them,
• 2:21:33
  you know, you can't come in, you don't have a warrant, and
• 2:21:37
  she threw a hammer, which she it was a window and something that was
• 2:21:43
  in between. So all three of these officers fired at this woman. She
• 2:21:48
  was forty six years old. That would be Thursday. And then there's another
• 2:21:54
  story that was brought to me. I may need I have to go back
• 2:21:58
  and send it to you about the young lady at the hospital in Texas who
• 2:22:03
  was suffering from a sickle cell crisis and uh, the hospital put her out
• 2:22:07
  and she died about five days after that. So these are all stories that
• 2:22:13
  people see and they bring to me, and I'm just so we definitely love
• 2:22:18
  your input. On that, brother, how do you feel when it comes
• 2:22:20
  to police officers being called out to mental distress calls? Do you feel?
• 2:22:28
  But save that save that for Thursday is Thursday. I looking to the today
• 2:22:33
  and tomorrow, I mean tomorrow, today, tomorrow, tomorrow, And I
• 2:22:39
  haven't seen very many people, uh speak about it. You know, it
• 2:22:43
  just kind of went away. And then I definitely want to do a part
• 2:22:46
  two on Missa gk the young lady that was killed by her white neighbor.
• 2:22:52
  Um. But Jewels says that they're going with manslaughter, So we dropped it
• 2:23:00
  from murder to manslaughter as they dropped it down to and they have ring doorbell
• 2:23:07
  camo. Yeah. Um, but something is a little sketchy with that to
• 2:23:13
  me too, because a lot of people don't know that with ring cameras,
• 2:23:16
  you know, you can erase footage. Uh or I think she tried to
• 2:23:20
  raise it right, so that okay, But well, we'll definitely get into
• 2:23:26
  that. Um, but definitely would love your input. Um. I'm trying
• 2:23:31
  to get because I don't know if you recalled Patrick Warren Senior. This was
• 2:23:33
  a few years ago when he was this happened in um here in Texas.
• 2:23:39
  He was a pastor family called for uh, they called nine one. One
• 2:23:46
  father was having a mental illness breakdown and uh they ended up killing him.
• 2:23:52
  Um. I believe that's still an ongoing investigation. So the Sun is a
• 2:23:56
  little hesitant to come and do the show with me because I believe that's still
• 2:24:01
  ongoing. But I definitely would love your input on that. You know,
• 2:24:05
  what are your what are your thoughts on police officers coming out to these these
• 2:24:11
  distress calls when there is a mental health team that can be called out,
• 2:24:18
  but they don't send them. So that's the situation with the San Antonio Police
• 2:24:22
  Department again. Three officers have been released. I believe they're on suspension with
• 2:24:28
  no pay. I don't know. It's two conflicting stories with regards to where
• 2:24:35
  they fired or they just suspended with no pay. But I know all three
• 2:24:37
  of them have been charged with murder. Look that up. But yeah,
• 2:24:43
  but the video I sent you with the young lady that they were dragging out
• 2:24:48
  a mess, a mess and she was unconscious. Yeah. So but ladies,
• 2:24:58
  rott yourself, y'all, men, black men, black women, we
• 2:25:03
  have to make better choices, y'all when we step outside of our homes.
• 2:25:07
  We have to start thinking smart and wise. Be wise and a lot of
• 2:25:13
  the decisions that you made because it could affect a lot of people. Whatever
• 2:25:16
  decision you make could affect a lot of people. So we have to be
• 2:25:20
  smart, ladies and gentlemen. We really, really truly have to. But
• 2:25:24
  I want to say to you, brother, I love you so much.
• 2:25:26
  Thank you for I know it was short notice, but I was like,
• 2:25:31
  brother, I was like, I gotta hit him up because I've been in
• 2:25:35
  those lives with you listening and everything that you've been saying has just been beautiful.
• 2:25:39
  But I love how you come on here and you're breaking it. You're
• 2:25:41
  broken it down for me to give me a clearer concise understanding. So now
• 2:25:46
  I'm looking at it from your lens. You know, I'm looking at it
• 2:25:50
  full screen and not just I'm looking at it full of you are not just
• 2:25:56
  full screen because there's a lot of this that's missing. You know, why
• 2:26:00
  are we not seen the footage of him coming into the establishment. I appreciate
• 2:26:05
  you having sins and I just want to say this for people right. The
• 2:26:09
  reason I take the stance I take it is because I almost I almost got
• 2:26:13
  a five year charge for having my own weapon right, and nuance was going
• 2:26:16
  through at the time they were going through. Uh, I guess the DA
• 2:26:20
  or something was going up for you know, election or some whatever's going on.
• 2:26:22
  But the public the platform was on gun control and I had a concealed
• 2:26:26
  weapon, but I didn't have my permit, so they was gonna charge me
• 2:26:31
  five years with that. And because I didn't know the law at the time,
• 2:26:33
  I didn't know what was going on in the legal system, I could
• 2:26:37
  have been faced to five years. But I went up and I read into
• 2:26:39
  it, and I went and I presented myself. I had a public defend.
• 2:26:43
  I said, now I'm gonna talk to judge myself. You know,
• 2:26:46
  I defended myself and I said, okay, Judge, I understand what the
• 2:26:50
  law says. Now I wasn't aware of it. And he told me not
• 2:26:54
  being aware of the laws not defense, and say, I understand that,
• 2:26:56
  but this is what I want to do. I want to get my record
• 2:26:58
  a sponge because I am a productive member of society and I want I don't
• 2:27:03
  want to affect me in the future. So whatever you give me, uh,
• 2:27:07
  you know, I'm fine with that, paying my you know, my
• 2:27:09
  restitution to the state. Just so I can have a spongement, and he
• 2:27:13
  had granted my aspongement, so I don't have a record anymore. Well,
• 2:27:16
  I never had a record, you know. He just you know, if
• 2:27:18
  I go for a federal job, they'll see that, but anything state,
• 2:27:22
  they won't see that. I've been arrested for a gun charge. And even
• 2:27:26
  though it's my gun, it was an illegal gun because it wasn't it wasn't
• 2:27:28
  a control carr license on me, and they call it a legal weapon.
• 2:27:33
  So you know, I had to learn that. And I'm an advocate for
• 2:27:35
  people understanding the laws and protect themselves with second amend rights, but also understand
• 2:27:39
  the laws and what you can and can't do so you won't get jammed up
• 2:27:43
  in the system. Yeah, baby, because you know that's what they doing
• 2:27:46
  us quick fastening hers or brother, you need to learn me something. What
• 2:27:48
  what the motor folks they come on, Learn your girl something, learn something
• 2:27:54
  because it's imperative, you know, for us to know the law because we
• 2:27:58
  may encounters. We are all and I pray this never happened to anybody,
• 2:28:03
  but we're starting to encounter those situations like that on a regular and we don't
• 2:28:07
  know the law. Yeah, we don't know the law. We don't know
• 2:28:09
  why our rights and we see what how they railroad us. You know,
• 2:28:16
  you're seeing all these men that are being set free after ten twenty thirty years
• 2:28:20
  in prison. And because it's going on here in Houston right now as we
• 2:28:24
  speak, there that police officer here in Houston and these fake warrants that he
• 2:28:31
  had drawn up there going back and they're pulling all these cases and things like
• 2:28:35
  that. And so yeah, that's what's going on here in Houston. But
• 2:28:39
  again, y'all, thank y'all for tuning in to another episode. A black
• 2:28:43
  girl interrupted. Y'all already know. Anytime my brother jumps on here, conversations
• 2:28:48
  get very educational, they get deep. He learns miss something, as the
• 2:28:52
  people say, he learns miss something every day. He always gives me a
• 2:28:56
  different perspective to look at because I was only looking at it one way and
• 2:29:01
  one way only. It was Hey, I know he deserved he never should
• 2:29:03
  have put his hands on it. But now that I've looked at this press
• 2:29:07
  conference and listened to you, brother, miss hood, you made a very
• 2:29:15
  irrational decision you did that could have you know. But again, we have
• 2:29:20
  to stop acting on emotions because I think that's what happened in this situation was
• 2:29:26
  just emotions. You know, the sun. You see your mom getting beat
• 2:29:28
  up, and so again I'm looking at it from both sides of the point.
• 2:29:33
  But again, there are no winners in this situation. My prayers are
• 2:29:37
  out to both families. Unfortunately, mister Brown lost his life, you know,
• 2:29:41
  forever, cause there's an effect. So you flet around and you found
• 2:29:46
  out, sir. Uh. Someone said, let this be a lesson to
• 2:29:50
  all the other abusers in the world. The luck was that I agree with
• 2:29:56
  that. People are not gonna people not gonna take the best. Keep your
• 2:29:58
  hands yourself. I agree. And these women they they coming. These women
• 2:30:07
  are getting these guns, they're getting licensed to carry, and they're not These
• 2:30:11
  ladies are not afraid to shoot now anymore. Back in the day, they
• 2:30:13
  used to be, but now they're not afraid anymore. They they're shooting first
• 2:30:18
  and they're asking questions later. They're deal with the consequences later. But again,
• 2:30:22
  if you guys are ever encountered in a situation, y'all be smart.
• 2:30:26
  Be smart. And if at any moment anybody can pull out a cell phone,
• 2:30:31
  call of police, call of police, I get it, y'all.
• 2:30:33
  Don't want to get involved. But this could be you, this could be
• 2:30:37
  your loved one. You're gonna be feeling that very same way. Why didn't
• 2:30:41
  someone do abcd FG. But first, always try to de escalate the situation.
• 2:30:46
  Ladies and gentlemen. This is not just for women but for men too,
• 2:30:48
  because I've seen some of your men. Y'all your pride and y'all say
• 2:30:54
  old, my respect is bigger and yeah, but when you lose your life,
• 2:30:58
  that respecting that I didn't goes out the door. Yep, absolutely it
• 2:31:05
  ends. The moment your blood, I mean, your heart starts pumping in
• 2:31:09
  your body. No one is even thinking about your respect. You're just another
• 2:31:13
  picture on a T shirt with sorry you lost your life, and people move
• 2:31:16
  on onto something else until something else happens in the world that the world jumps
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  on. Then you've become forgotten. So yeah, I say that with lots
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  of love. I say that with my whole chest. God bless everybody again.
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  Happy Tuesday again. Don't forget Thursday night. I will be talking about
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  uh, mental illnesses, getting your killed. You know, God, how
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  many mental how mental illness affects police shooting cantalities is what Thursday night's episode is
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  about Oh, anything you want to promote for you? Brother? I mean,
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  well, I'm I'm on. I haven't been on my podcast. I've
• 2:31:56
  been totally on TikTok, so blackmail just I living on TikTok. Come to
• 2:32:01
  TikTok and follow me. Um. Also I plug my my son's school.
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  Um there he goes to Thrive Christian Academy. They're buying a church, an
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  old church, and the whole facility. They're gonna be a first minority owned
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  school here in Georgia. So, um, if y'all would go to my
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  blackmail page and go to the link up there if you can donate, because
• 2:32:26
  they're trying to get some funds they want to do like a state of the
• 2:32:30
  art um uh STEM thing, like a state of art uh STEM computers and
• 2:32:35
  all that stuff. And I think they're also trying to get some sports teams
• 2:32:39
  also to give the kids something to do. So um, yeah, it's
• 2:32:43
  it's the link in my in my blackmail bio on Actually I have in blackmail
• 2:32:48
  bio and I also having my personal as you got you're my friend of my
• 2:32:52
  personal but I also have a post on my personal page on Facebook on Facebook.
• 2:32:56
  So and I'll definitely share that for you anywhere it goes, because we
• 2:33:01
  definitely need things like that for these children. You know, that's that's major.
• 2:33:05
  These children needs something to do. Uh. They need to spend less
• 2:33:09
  time in the streets and more time something. They need to be occupied.
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  Also, it's tax deductible, so if you if you donate, right,
• 2:33:20
  it's tax deductible because there are five one three, I think that's what it
• 2:33:24
  is. Yeah, they're they're nonprofit, so you know if you get a
• 2:33:28
  tax deduction on it. So y'all hear that in Atlanta, Georgia, they
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  are trying to open their first minority owned school. Y'all contribute. UM,
• 2:33:39
  I will go and I will share the link on my page. UM,
• 2:33:43
  I'm gonna see if I can get you connected with Big You because Big U
• 2:33:46
  does a lot of stuff out there in California. Um. Actually one of
• 2:33:50
  his sons, two of his sons got drafted to the NFL. One got
• 2:33:54
  drafted to the New Orleans Saints and then the other one got drafted to the
• 2:33:58
  Chargers, I believe. But Big You is really big out there in LA.
• 2:34:03
  He's a former game banger uh turned activists and you know he does a
• 2:34:09
  lot of things for the black boys out there in LA. So, um,
• 2:34:13
  I know he's I know he's been to Atlanta quite a few times.
• 2:34:16
  Um, I'll send Big you a message that's on that's like big onc right
• 2:34:22
  there. Uh, my son, he's a quarterback. So I'm gonna be
• 2:34:26
  posting some of this. He went to a camp, a little one day
• 2:34:30
  camp for some NFL uh two n's in the NFL right now. They did
• 2:34:35
  a camp Saturday, and he was he was there Saturday. So I'm gonna
• 2:34:37
  put us some of his little little practice highlights up on my pages and I'll
• 2:34:41
  tag you, and um, I'll tag you in big us post because we
• 2:34:45
  follow each other on Instagram. Like, he's so freaking amazing. He's like
• 2:34:48
  big uncle to me in LA. He's like, whatever you got to La.
• 2:34:52
  He's like, don't forget you got the check in. I was like
• 2:34:54
  not checking in La. Whatever. But anyway, but I would definitely connect
• 2:34:58
  y'all. Look out for my brother again. Blackmail podcast. I'm pushing for
• 2:35:03
  his podcast to come back. Yes, I know I need these these fellas
• 2:35:09
  need to save space. Brother, they need to I have so many black
• 2:35:13
  men that I just need you to just even if it's even if it's just
• 2:35:18
  one day a week, I just I need you to open up that safe
• 2:35:22
  space for these black men because these black men are suffering. So I'll get
• 2:35:26
  on that. I could promise you I'll get on that by this summer.
• 2:35:31
  Sometime this summer. I can't give you a date because I got stuff going
• 2:35:33
  on, but sometimes it's summer. I'll do my first one and um,
• 2:35:39
  actually I should have did June because it's mental Men's Mental Health Month. But
• 2:35:43
  I'll get it this summer and I'll do my first one and we'll go from
• 2:35:46
  there because yeah, I have some stuff I want to address too to brothers,
• 2:35:50
  but I have some read mental health. Yeah, I have some reason
• 2:35:54
  to do. Somebody presented me with something to have to read before I do
• 2:35:58
  this. But yeah, it's it's coming. I would definitely love to see
• 2:36:01
  that. My fellows would love to see that. Um. But yeah,
• 2:36:05
  every day is mental health day. Every day. You know, I advocate
• 2:36:09
  for it every day, so every day. But UM, to you black
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  men, I want to say to you, brother, I love you.
• 2:36:15
  I'm so proud of you. God bless you on your journey and everything that
• 2:36:18
  you're doing. You're doing big, beautiful things over there on TikTok Uh,
• 2:36:22
  and I do tune in even though I don't come up on the in the
• 2:36:24
  little panel thing. I'm down in the audience, listening, commenting, taking
• 2:36:30
  in a lot of information and you are really truly teaching me a lot.
• 2:36:33
  So I'm starting to pivot in different ways with black Girl interrupt the podcast,
• 2:36:39
  So thank you for that. I am absolutely grateful for your lessons, for
• 2:36:43
  the teachings, for everything that you give me, um, and the topics
• 2:36:48
  that you talk about, because I'm educating myself on that. So I could
• 2:36:52
  pivot in a better direction, but black Girl interrupted so and so far it's
• 2:36:56
  working. So far, it's working. I appreciate you, know, absolutely
• 2:37:05
  full support from me. You know what. I love seeing you get on
• 2:37:09
  here and do your thing. I've been consistent and that's a beautiful thing.
• 2:37:11
  And I'm in a great space mentally, which was very imperative to me getting
• 2:37:16
  back into this. But um, if it wasn't for you and all the
• 2:37:22
  viewers that tune in and send me messages and tell me how proud of they
• 2:37:26
  how proud they are me, I probably would not be sitting here doing this.
• 2:37:31
  But I know my purpose. I know what I'm here to do.
• 2:37:35
  I know what I'm supposed to do. UM. I can't wait for our
• 2:37:39
  next project because we are doing something. I will get with you on the
• 2:37:43
  back end of that. UM. But so many beautiful things. Like I
• 2:37:48
  said, twenty twenty three is personal. The rest of these last five months
• 2:37:52
  are mine. No one can take that away from me. It's mine,
• 2:37:56
  and twenty twenty four is gonna be even better for me. I'm gonna be
• 2:37:58
  a little further than where I am with this podcast come twenty twenty four.
• 2:38:01
  But y'all hang in with your girl. And on that note, I love
• 2:38:05
  you guys. I will see y'all Thursday night. Don't forget Black Girl Interrupted.
• 2:38:09
  I'm on all the streaming platforms. Don't forget to like, share,
• 2:38:11
  subscribe, comment, eight thirty pm Central Time, nine thirty Eastern Time.
• 2:38:16
  That's on Tuesdays and Thursdays. But once football season starts, that will change.
• 2:38:20
  Okay, that's up Thursday nights, babn. Let me tell you something.
• 2:38:26
  When you say it's play on Thursday nights, y'all will not see me
• 2:38:28
  right here. Will have to fly that to another day. I can't guarantee,
• 2:38:33
  y'all, Sundays maybe maybe Wednesdays, maybe Tuesdays and Wednesdays, but uh,
• 2:38:37
  football season roll around. Y'all know how your girl got to get down.
• 2:38:41
  But I love y'all, and y'all have a great night. We had
• 2:38:45
  a beautiful show. I know y'all, I know we always talk long,
• 2:38:48
  but that's that's how me and my brother do. Uh. But I love
• 2:38:54
  y'all. Happy Thursday, Happy Tuesday. I will see y'all Thursday, same
• 2:38:58
  time, same place. Y'all have a great night, Stay blessed. Don't
• 2:39:01
  forget COVID. It's still out there, so don't forget. To wash your
• 2:39:03
  hands and wash your ass, and stay the hell away from me. If
• 2:39:07
  you stick too, I don't want it. But I love y'all. Have
• 2:39:09
  a good night, and I'll see y'all Thursday, THESAU