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PODCAST: Episode 970 - Kallohonka’s James Magruder Talks Slug Metal and Lazer Blood · Ghost Cult Magazine Podcast

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  Based on a finish, the finish finish paganism.
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  They were bear cults, right? So they would hunt bears and
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  they would shoot like kill the bear.
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  I mean they have a gun. Clearly we're talking like, you
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  know, free Christian air. And then they would have a feast
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  and they would sing songs to the while they're eating the bears
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  flesh, they're singing songs to the bears spirit about how they
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  weren't the ones that killed them to try to convince them
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  that they could be his friend in the next life.
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  And then they would take his skull and put it on top of a
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  century pine so that his spirit were return to the stars and be
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  born again on earth. What's up everybody, it's Kefi
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  of Ghost cultman.com. I am super stoked and actually a
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  little scared to interview James from Kalohanka.
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  How are you doing today? What's up bro?
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  You just partying in the woods somewhere?
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  Hey man, sometimes you got to go to the mythic forest, you know?
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  The Mythic forest in Texas. So so many things to unpack and
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  luckily I have therapy later today.
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  But umm, let's talk about Laser Blood, the brand new album
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  coming out. Oh yeah, Memory Terminal
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  Records. What is Slug Metal and what is
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  the origin of the band? Because just from the bio and
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  the photos my brain is already like tingling.
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  So I started this band like 10 years ago with my friend Eric.
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  We were used to be in a grind band called The Feeps.
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  And you know, we lived together for a while.
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  We started a band when he got married to a lady and we weren't
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  hanging out as much. That was the first iteration.
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  It was just bass and drums with a singer.
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  We went through a couple lineup changes until we find Amy Carson
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  from Bread and Water. She's a great front person, so
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  much energy. She's great.
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  And then we've made some albums. You know, we've always, I've
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  always any costume bands. I like doing the costume thing.
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  It get weird, you know, and you know, slug metal is just what it
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  is, man. It's metal for fucking slugs.
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  I always personally find slugs. I'm from the New York area
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  originally. I live in the Bay Area now, and
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  I spent a lot of time in New England where slugs are a real
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  thing. They are like an invading army
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  and a lot of, you know, colonial homes with no baseboards.
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  So slugs come in your home and they kind of scream, actually,
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  if you get real quiet and you just kind of focus on, they kind
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  of, yeah, they scream, they scream at you.
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  OK, somebody is creeping in the background, but nothing.
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  Don't pay any attention to that. So anyway, yeah man, music for
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  slugs and people who listen to music for slugs.
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  I mean, have you ever seen a video of leopard slugs mating?
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  It's like the most beautiful thing in nature, so.
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  I have not. Psychedelic sex with leopard
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  slugs. Highly recommend.
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  Yeah, men. So yeah, the music is an amalgam
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  of things. It's clear you got, you know,
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  the grind makes sense now, but also like super, you know, just
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  super straight up screamy punk that we need right now, I think
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  in the world. Oh yeah, and some other and some
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  other weirdness, let's just say. So you it's kind of a whole
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  collective of people. And I know you lost a member.
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  My condolences there. But like, yeah, just wild.
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  A wild album to listen through a few times for sure.
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  Yeah, I mean, you're, you're talking about Dennis Gazelles.
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  He's the father of very close friends of mine.
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  He was a patriarch to like our little weirdo scene in Dallas.
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  He was kind of free jazz legend, especially in like Eastern
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  European circles. And also like the free jazz guys
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  from Fort Worth. He played a lot with them and we
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  were thankful. Hey, look, there's some
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  gunshots. I love this neighborhood.
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  And so he played horns on there for us.
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  And he, unfortunately, he passed.
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  And this is probably the last release he's going to be on
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  posthumously. Yeah.
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  Right on. Hopefully this guy lurking
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  behind you is not going to cause you bodily harm in the middle of
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  our interview. Oh, you know, we got some like
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  little minion dudes around here, you know, they're just checking.
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  Make it trading safe. There it is.
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  Minions are important. Maybe they'll take a bullet for
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  you or deflect it with their power.
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  Yeah. Hopefully they don't come down,
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  you know. Pleasant girl.
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  What are you going? To do there you go and then
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  cults being that we are called ghost cult and we were founded
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  in 2012 and our sigil is a doomsday.
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  You know, Mayan Doomsday Clock, because we had like a original
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  co-owner was like had some Mayan.
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  That's how we have that. We didn't appropriate it, but
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  it's our thing. And so we love and understand
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  and appreciate. Hey, it was a John Cusack movie,
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  right? Hey, hey.
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  Oh, what was that? All right.
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  So, yeah, just, you know, is there a lure to the group in the
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  group's music and the name is it is it cultish?
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  Is it? I know it's.
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  So it's based on, yeah, it's based on a Finnish, the Finnish,
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  Finnish paganism. They're bear cults, right?
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  So they would hunt bears and they would shoot like kill the
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  bear. I mean, they have a gun clearly.
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  We're talking like, you know, free Christian air.
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  And then they would have a feast and they would sing songs.
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  Today while they're eating the bears flesh, they're singing
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  songs to the bears spirit about how they weren't the ones that
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  killed him to try to convince him that they could be his
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  friend in the next life. And then they would take his
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  skull and put it on top of a century pine so that his spirit
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  will return to the stars and be born again on Earth.
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  Wild. And how does that does that
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  factor into the just sort of the the band names and the music or
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  is it just kind of this that is what?
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  Specifically the name is, but you know, the music is about,
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  you know, there's songs about cults.
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  Cults are a lot of fun, man. I love cults, but you know, the
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  songs are about having a good time at the fucking end of the
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  world because we're staring down the fucking barrel of it, baby.
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  I did. We're just trying.
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  To have fun, make everybody have a good time.
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  Trying to forget the fucking problems we're having right now.
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  Get a little fucking weird. Let's go.
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  Yes, Speaking of the end of the world, I love that the band camp
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  is Carlo Hanca Kills Billionaires.
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  OK, man. Because of course we need to
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  like we really people who are looking trader cards, you know,
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  like trading cards, like NFTS are basically trading card, like
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  worthless trading cards. And people are obsessed with
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  this like sort of very, if not real culture.
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  Like, I love technology and I'm appreciative of it, but like,
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  we're able to do this because this message is going through
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  space and time. So I can talk to you in Texas
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  while I live in San Francisco. But yeah, we live in a very
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  weird and bizarre time. So weird and bizarre.
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  People in music is where I want to live, you know?
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  Absolutely me too man. That's the weirdos are the best
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  ones man. And even the ones that get a
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  little weird on the weekends. Come on out, man.
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  Yeah, weekend weirdos are fine too.
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  Some people have to be naughtless.
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  I used to wear a monkey suit and a shirt and tie and go to work.
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  Like zip up a human suit and pretend to be human.
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  And. Then hail Satan and drink
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  whiskey all night long and listen to metal.
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  Ungodly value. So yeah, shout out again.
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  You mentioned Amy. What a killer vocalist and great
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  performance on this record. Really brings everything
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  together, especially when you have all these moving pieces and
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  and disparate parts. It's really cool to have like a
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  unifying force like Amy. Vogel Yeah.
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  Fantastic fish. She's great to work with.
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  I mean, such a great front person.
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  Really brings a lot of energy to the live shows.
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  We try to keep the live shows, you know, pretty wild, you know
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  you sometimes we we dress people up as Arby's sandwiches and
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  threw Arby's roast beefs in the crowd.
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  You know, we've thrown a lot of food out.
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  Corn dogs, mini tacos, spaghetti for a Blade Runner show we did
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  because of the one scene where he eats the noodles.
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  You know, we just like to have a good time, man.
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  Right on. Is your friend OK over there?
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  He's great. He's great.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  You know, chanting, he's keeping it on.
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  Lock, we got to make sure the bamboo forest stays safe, man.
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  He's got a little dwarven, Dwarven Mace.
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  Make sure we're safe. You know, not big gun guys.
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  We're more than like the medieval.
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  I would see that, yeah, I could see that.
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  But also a nice Blade Runner reference, a big fan, and I even
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  enjoyed Blade Runner 2049. It wasn't.
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  I thought it was fantastic. They got me with the Twisted
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  Man. Yeah, I also I also am the one
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  person that saw and enjoyed Tron Heiress despite having Jared
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  Leto in. You know, I kind of hate the
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  guy, but he's in some great movies.
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  He's he's gross, but if you want to go that hard and believe in
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  yourself that much and be so method, then you know what, you
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  might get some greatness out of it.
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  He was a great villain in that 2049.
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  He was a fantastic villain. Yeah, yeah, it really was really
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  like underrated and not talk much about, but fantastic.
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  So yeah, let's talk a little bit.
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  You mentioned I know I don't think like people uncultured
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  swine don't ever think of Dallas as like a multi musical place.
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  Obviously known for Blues and heavy metal and thrash metal and
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  a lot of great bands, Pantera, Rigor Mortis, stuff like that,
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  but also like has a tremendous jazz background as a city.
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  And so it's fun to hear that influence coming in along with
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  psychedelic rock and other weirdness.
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  Personally, you as sort of the linchpin of this project is, is
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  that like your whole musical taste is also like a cassette
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  tape in a blender or is it specific?
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  No, it's kind of all over the place.
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  You know, I like a lot of black metal and I like 70s Italian and
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  French Prague. That's like a huge thing for me.
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  And I mean, I just like weird Prague and it gets a little
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  cheesy in the 80s. Frog in general, but except for
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  in like, man, Turkey's got great psych in Prague right now, so
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  does India. There's some really cool stuff
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  coming out of Pakistan too. Dick, we're all about music from
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  all over the world here. Yeah, you know, feel free to
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  drop us some recommendations via the PR Shout out to Ear Split
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  PR, our eternal besties in the music.
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  Yeah, Liz, Liz and Dave love them, Love them so much.
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  But yeah, man, just such a wild collection of songs and again,
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  music for slugs and people who like slugs.
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  I I am scared of slugs and they kind of freak me out.
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  But also look, I get it. Man, watch that David
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  Attenborough about the leopard slugs.
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  You can change your mind. All right, I love David
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  Attenborough everything. So that's get high and watch
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  like planet Earth documentaries. OK, stone dash slugs, let's go
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  date. Does seem I don't know if Carlo
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  Hanca is a drug banned or if there are drugs involved but it
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  seems. Like none of us have ever done
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  any drugs. That's amazing because you could
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  have, you absolutely could have fooled me, you know?
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  But yeah, I I don't know that I don't say that.
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  I wouldn't swear that drugs don't enhance the listening
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  experience. I'm pretty sure we thanked LSD
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  on the record so. Oh, fine, This is actually the
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  this is actually the best look. You have had the whole video.
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  So keep it here because the focus is beautiful on this.
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  But I'm, I'm down for whatever it comes out of this on top of
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  your your bear myths, which we like bear myths.
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  Here it goes called I don't know if you listen to a lot of the
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  ancient Norse Pagan music like Wardruna and high.
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  Yeah, they have a lot, yeah. I just saw them in Manhattan
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  recently. Sick.
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  Yeah, Wardrobe's latest album is literally about a mythical bear,
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  but yeah, super fun. And you know, I even can see
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  some of the, like, fans of that music, just anything
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  unconventional, they think they would dig your band and didn't
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  have to necessarily be metal or metal adjacent, but just like,
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  the spirit of the album, the rage fullness of the music.
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  But also, there's moments that are just kind of super
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  unexpected that I think people who are willing to expand their
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  palate would definitely dig. We definitely try to keep the
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  audience guessing with every twist and turn.
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  Yeah, so much, so, so much from every element, this interview,
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  the photos, the album cover, sick album artwork.
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  Let's talk about. I love a band with a visual
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  sense and style that's unique. And there's so few because all
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  the death metal albums start to look alike.
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  I'm not a huge fan. Like I love technology and I
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  work in in marketing, but I don't love all the AI of
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  everything right now. So this album feels like very
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  real to me, very organic and touchable, you know, not that I
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  want to touch a a snail, I don't want to touch slugs.
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  Oh, it's just a little slime man, you'll be alright.
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  I know. I just don't want to get it off
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  me. They're my favorite line ever
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  from The X-Files is like the second episode of The X-Files
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  with David Duchovny touches the bile.
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  I don't know if you're. Oh, yeah.
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  And he's like, how do I Yeah, exactly.
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  You know, the tunes and squeeze. How do I get this off my fingers
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  quickly without revealing my uncool exterior?
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  He says, yeah, It's just like, oh, you can smell it through the
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  screen almost. Oh yeah, and it seems like
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  there's a lot of weight. Like you said, 70s music's a big
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  influence on you personally among everything.
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  But like, I do feel like there's a great B movie quality in a
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  wholesome, best complimentary way.
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  There's AB movie amazingness to all of this that I think is
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  gonna like again. Yeah, absolutely serves.
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  Music. The concepts.
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  Me and the guitar player Jason, he's he would move to away so
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  he's no longer in the band. And the current drummer we're in
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  another band called Kolga KOLGA that was a surf black metal
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  band. So and that's very BB horror
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  movie like, you know, right up that alley, but like the cross
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  between black metal and surf together.
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  So yes, that is definitely in our wheelhouse.
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  That sounds amazing, I'm gonna check that out too 'cause that
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  sounds like something I would dig.
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  Yeah, it's on otitis media that. One nice alright, the weirder
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  the better. How?
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  How does a band like this happen in a in in your scene, if you
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  have a local scene in Dallas and what that's like and how are you
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  viewed by everybody else? That's probably like ripped
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  jeans, black shirts and just rips, right?
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  You know, we, we, we played with a plenty of touring bands that
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  come through. We played with Oozela and you
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  know, a bunch of other ones. But you know, the Dallas scene
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  is very accepting of other weird offshoots.
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  We all come to the same shows, whether you're in free jazz,
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  metal, punk, grind, electronic, you know, experimental vocal
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  weirdness. I mean, we all hang out together
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  and we all have a really good time.
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  It's kind of falling off in the last couple years, but there was
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  a incredibly diverse and vibrant sitting here for a very long
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  time and I really hope some of the younger people will pick
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  that back up. I think there's inklings that is
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  coming back nice. But you know, after the Ghost
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  Ship thing and all the DIY spaces got closed, like it was,
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  you know, it hit the whole country.
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  It changed the scene in the whole country.
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  So we still had things going on here even after that.
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  But then COVID, you know, it's just, it's coming back.
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  It just needs a little more time and a fresh batch of eyes, I
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  think. Right on.
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  And maybe we need to take it back underground and do house
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  shows and backyard shows again. I know.
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  Yeah, absolutely. I forgot what like touring punk
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  band that's pretty huge actually is doing like house parties and
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  people's birthdays just for. Shilman St's still going.
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  It's close. Yilman is still there.
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  Nope, still there. Nice.
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  There's been there's been times when it looked like it was gonna
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  go out. I've only been out here five
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  years, but Lynn was like one of my oh, I'm from New York and I
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  went to CBGB's. I have to go to Gilman.
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  I used. To, I mean, I know ABC, you
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  know, Rio bit the dumps. A few years, yeah.
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  Someplace we let some places go in New York.
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  It's a shame what we let happen to our city.
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  The former Roseland is now like a Trump apartment building.
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  You can go fuck himself and that but like we lost some.
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  Fighters guys are cool, yeah. So cool, and I'm sad they got
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  shut down. I was literally there five days
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  a week when I lived in Brooklyn, so yeah.
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  And I highly recommend that coffee table book to everyone.
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  But yeah, man, I'm just so. They're still doing shows.
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  Yeah, they book shows. We cover them.
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  We're cover one tomorrow. Yeah, but yeah, so fun.
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  And like I said, unexpected in the best way.
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  I I think like 2026 is already revealing some fruits.
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  If the if the world is a dumpster fire, chances are
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  there's going to be some interesting and fun bands.
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  Let's go out partying, dude, let's go out partying.
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  That's all. And the meteor hits.
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  Let's be raising, raising our knuckles to the sky with, you
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  know, something. Could be a bong, could be a
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  booze, could be a coffee, whatever.
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  You do whatever you know, vape, whatever.
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  You do, man. We'll take everybody.
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  But you know, we're gonna get weird, too.
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  Is is this a project that can, like you said, you tour, you
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  know, play open for touring bands?
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  I know you got a release show at the double wide coming up.
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  Beyond that, can you take this on the road?
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  Is it something you can stage? Could it become like a whole
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  play type of thing? Like expand out to, I don't
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  know, other media comic books? You know we're gonna make a
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  couple videos here. I'm filming one this weekend a
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  little bit so that should be fun and we're planning on doing our
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  debut tour in Australia just cuz fuck it, let's go dude, let's go
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  have a. Good time.
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  Unbelievable. Let's let's pick the dumbest
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  thing we could do and go for it, you know?
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  It's not for money, clearly it's a long flight, but I bet it's
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  beautiful. Fuck money.
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  Yeah, I get it. No, I know.
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  Well, you know, like on one hand, absolutely fuck money.
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  On the other hand, you need to live.
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  You have to even pay rent and you know, you know, take care of
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  those who you need to take care of.
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  I get it. But yes, money.
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  And I'm fortunate to be, you know, I have enough money to be
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  able to say that a little bit. So yeah, yeah, I'm very grateful
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  for that. But you know, I'm not trying to
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  be a fucking silly. No.
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  And I think like our like blind allegiance to as a person that
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  loves like physical media, books and records and things.
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  And I have enough of these dumb hats and shirts to like fill a
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  fucking lifetime already. But on the other hand, it's
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  like, yeah, we've become really bad capitalist drones in the
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  worst way. Like we're very beholding the
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  brands and things. I hope it's the late stage and
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  we're over soon. Seems like it people try to
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  fight me on that and I'm like, no, there's clear evidence that
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  this shit has been collapse like every time.
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  Pompeii, the Roman Empire, you know, pre industrial revolution.
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  Yeah, we. Need French Revolution.
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  We're getting there pretty close.
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  That's. The American spring.
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  Where's the meteor? Because I'll take the meteor or
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  the bear with my lady. Friends over neural link any
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  day. Yeah, man, fuck all that.
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  But this has been a lot of fun as I expected it to be fun
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  because, you know, the weirder the better, James.
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  But I always like to end these interviews with a wild card
• 18:13
  question and so I thought this would be a fun one for you.
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  If you were hosting a dinner and you could invite 5 people from
• 18:19
  anywhere in time. Living Dead family stars,
• 18:22
  celebrities, not regular folks you know that are interesting.
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  Who would you invite five people to dinner and what would you
• 18:27
  serve? Oh, OK, so Genghis Khan would be
• 18:30
  cool. I'm pretty sure that would be
• 18:32
  just crazy. Let's see.
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  Who else? Well, let's see, probably let's
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  do 4. So Genghis Khan and I would also
• 18:41
  probably go with man, I'm just such a Kurt Cobain fan that that
• 18:45
  shit that came out this week is pretty wild.
• 18:48
  So Kurt Genghis Khan, let's go with oh, Caligula might be fun.
• 18:53
  That would be a good time as long as he, you know, kept his
• 18:57
  shit in his pants, like whatever, you know, not, you
• 19:00
  know, leave the sister at home. But, and you know, let's round
• 19:04
  it out with Ursula, Ursula Le Guin.
• 19:07
  I think that that would be fantastic and.
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  What would the menu be? Let's see.
• 19:12
  Well, it's got to be so there'd be like some forced in rice
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  dish, I think a horse rice dish for Genghis and you know,
• 19:22
  probably, you know, I make a mean cottage pie.
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  So let's go with cottage pie and horse rice.
• 19:27
  All right, I think Caligula likes his horses alive and
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  presenting, but. Well, it's not made out of a
• 19:33
  senator, OK? Right, right.
• 19:36
  Yeah, absolutely. As expected, James, super fun.
• 19:40
  Kalahanka, new album Laser Blood coming at you soon.
• 19:44
  Kind of surprised there's no Laser Blood song.
• 19:46
  Maybe it's referenced in there and I missed it, but umm, you
• 19:49
  know, super fun getting to know you and meet you and chat with
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  you today about this record and best of luck.
• 19:54
  Keep your head up out there and good luck on tour.
• 19:57
  Thanks a lot man, Appreciate it.