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🚨 Knicks Running It Back! Shamet & Alvarado Are Back + NBA Offseason Chaos | USMNT Must Win | LIVE · Independent N.I.C.

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  Speaker 1: That's right back. Let's from the back.
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  Speaker 2: That's running back.
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• 1:06
  Speaker 1: What's good?
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  Speaker 2: I mean?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. You tell me you're you're
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  Speaker 1: you're a Dubs fan. You you excited about uh about
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  Speaker 1: possibly adding Lebron. I mean, I have some real opinions
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  Speaker 1: about this. You know, I'm interested to hear how you feel.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've definitely seen your real opinions as early
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  Speaker 3: about eight o'clock this morning.
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  Speaker 2: You know, to be honest, it would be great, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for one time for Steph. You just got to do it.
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  Speaker 3: He's you know, the other day he's still averaging twenty
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  Speaker 3: seven and six.
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  Speaker 2: I'd take that on my team any day of the week.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just another guy who probably won't turn the
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  Speaker 3: ball over very much, which has been you know, quite
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  Speaker 3: an issue.
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  Speaker 2: For the Warriors last couple of seasons.
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  Speaker 3: They've been kind of doing things that they've been doing
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  Speaker 3: the same stuff that made them really successful.
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  Speaker 2: But with the personnel that just isn't equipped for it anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I think Bron is still a great player, obviously, who
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  Speaker 1: has a lot that he can add to an you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's far from over the hill. He is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: still extremely impactful. I think you got to manage his
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  Speaker 1: minutes throughout the season if you want to get the
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  Speaker 1: most from him in you know, May and June. I
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  Speaker 1: personally don't understand how any Warriors fan wants Lebron on
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  Speaker 1: the team now, Warriors front office, Warriors players, sure, but
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  Speaker 1: it takes me back to a time when there was
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  Speaker 1: rumors that the Knicks were going to get Michael Jordan,
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  Speaker 1: when he was possibly wanting out getting up from up
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  Speaker 1: under Jerry Krause. And I can remember my dad and
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  Speaker 1: I way back then saying I don't want Jordan on
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  Speaker 1: the Knicks. I don't want to win with Jordan. I
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  Speaker 1: want to beat Jordan, And so now that we see
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  Speaker 1: you know this possibility. I know they played great together
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  Speaker 1: for Team USA, but that was your biggest rival at
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  Speaker 1: one point, a team that you met in the finals
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  Speaker 1: multiple times. So for me wanting to now team up
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  Speaker 1: with your greatest adversary, I don't know, that's that's just
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  Speaker 1: I'm just not built that way.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely understand where you're coming from there.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, again, the last few years, ever since
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  Speaker 3: the twenty two title, what the Warriors have done for
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  Speaker 3: Steph is like borderline laughable. For the personnel they've added.
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  Speaker 3: They've had the draft, they've had the big draft misses
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  Speaker 3: in twenty and twenty one, they you know, basically added
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  Speaker 3: three lottery picks. You got to have an extra base
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  Speaker 3: hit and one of those. And the thing we the
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  Speaker 3: best we've gotten is a Texas leaguer and right field.
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  Speaker 3: Most of the movie Comingo was a strikeout swinging. Wiseman
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  Speaker 3: was a strikeout looking, you know, just to you know,
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  Speaker 3: keep keep it one hundred here.
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  Speaker 2: And then just the complimentary players.
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  Speaker 3: They've added, you know, in the years since, especially after
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  Speaker 3: the whole Draymond Jordan Poole thing, you know, it just
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  Speaker 3: really hasn't worked out.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Jimmy has been good.
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  Speaker 3: But obviously out for half the year at this point minimum.
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  Speaker 3: So anything they can to get Steph another crack at
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  Speaker 3: a title I'm here for because at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the day, no matter what, step better.
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  Speaker 1: Listen. At the end of the day, I do agree
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  Speaker 1: that it would give them about as good as a chance.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, really, right now, if you're looking to maximize
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  Speaker 1: those last few years of Steph, you're I think this
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  Speaker 1: is probably your best option. Him and Draymond on the
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  Speaker 1: same team I think could be interesting because though I
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  Speaker 1: do know that they are very close friends outside of
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  Speaker 1: the game, I think if you put them both on
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  Speaker 1: the floor together for an entire season, there's going to
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  Speaker 1: be times and there's disagreements. Those two are typically very
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  Speaker 1: boisterous about communicating back and forth with their teammates. I
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  Speaker 1: think that could lead to some interesting moments for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it'll quite get to like the KD level,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, I think it'll be It'll be great
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  Speaker 1: for the league, it'll be great for TV. I'm interested
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  Speaker 1: to see how it would work out. Personally. I just
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  Speaker 1: know that if I was a Dubs fan, I would
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  Speaker 1: want no part of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know again again where you're coming from.
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  Speaker 3: But this is for Staph. It's his last ride. You
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  Speaker 3: gotta you gotta just do it for him, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if that's what they if that's what they feel, and
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  Speaker 3: that's what he feels, is the best chance to give
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  Speaker 3: him the best chance to even get a shot another
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  Speaker 3: title shot, because let's be real, like Oklahoma City and
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  Speaker 3: San Antoni are gonna be basically West Finals participants. We're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be the West Final participants for quite some time
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  Speaker 3: here with I'm saying just the West Finals.
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  Speaker 1: Not so fast. I listen. I'm telling you I see
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  Speaker 1: the fall off coming for the Spurs. And maybe that
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  Speaker 1: is me just being a you know, a hater, just
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  Speaker 1: because of the way that Wemby conducted himself during the finals,
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  Speaker 1: and he has now become officially public enemy number one
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  Speaker 1: for me and a lot of Knicks fans. He's the
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  Speaker 1: one that you know, he's the player I dislike the
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  Speaker 1: most in the league, just the way he carries himself
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  Speaker 1: and the type of leader he is and you know,
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  Speaker 1: resorting to dirty shit when you're not good enough. I
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  Speaker 1: think that they have a very interesting conundrum moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: What happens with Dearon Fox because you can't move him.
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  Speaker 1: His contract's too big, nobody's nobody's taking on that contract.
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  Speaker 1: And you know poetic justice that Mike Brown got fired
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  Speaker 1: after calling Fox out in a press conference in Sacramento
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  Speaker 1: for being an unserious basketball player. And then right after
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  Speaker 1: that you have them meeting up in the Finals, and
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  Speaker 1: we continue to see that the Aaron Fox is an
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  Speaker 1: un serious basketball player. And you have the emergence of
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  Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks, who of all the things that Mitch Johnson
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  Speaker 1: made mistakes in that Finals, I think the biggest mistake
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  Speaker 1: was not running with Dylan Harper Moore, especially at certain
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  Speaker 1: times early in the series, not having him in down
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  Speaker 1: the stretch for Dearon Fox. So having a guy who
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  Speaker 1: makes the most money on your team, who I think
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  Speaker 1: should be coming off the bench next year, I don't
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  Speaker 1: exactly know how they navigate that going into this season,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be something that plays
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  Speaker 1: out throughout this season. And I think that what we've
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  Speaker 1: seen from Wemby is he has to get himself in
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  Speaker 1: much better shape if he is going to be able
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  Speaker 1: to get through a finals run, because he looked tired
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  Speaker 1: and he was beat up towards the end of that finals,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just not even beat up, more so just
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  Speaker 1: I should say, guest. And I think that's one of
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  Speaker 1: the things you saw from Brunson, who, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I saw videos of him working out in strength training
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  Speaker 1: just yesterday, so he's not taking any time off. And
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  Speaker 1: you saw Brunson is an elite shape. There's something to
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  Speaker 1: be said for being in I can play in the
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  Speaker 1: NBA shape and being I'm going to be the strongest
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  Speaker 1: closer in the fourth quarter at the end of a
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  Speaker 1: season shape, and that's what Brunson is. Wemby needs to
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  Speaker 1: get there. I don't know if he can just because
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  Speaker 1: of his frame.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say there's NBA shape and then
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  Speaker 3: there's Jordan shape. What he was doing, you know, back
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  Speaker 3: when he was starting to ascend to his peak, and
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  Speaker 3: then ultimately I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna say it became a goat. You know, you see
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  Speaker 2: it with Steph Steph did it? You know?
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  Speaker 3: In between that, you know, twenty and twenty one year,
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  Speaker 3: he really started building up his body and you know,
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  Speaker 3: for a while was the most fit player in the league.
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  Speaker 3: Brunson can just go over hours on end and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I thought the Knicks did really do a good job
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  Speaker 3: physically with Wenby, and they really beat him down. They
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  Speaker 3: made his life very difficult. They made him he was
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  Speaker 3: struggling to go back to the other end of the
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  Speaker 3: court a lot. And so you know when you do that,
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  Speaker 3: the you know, my mind takes on a body and
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  Speaker 3: you have to resort to dirty fouls.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, he was definitely spent there towards the end. YO,
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  Speaker 1: the Knicks and you know what they've done so far
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: in this period, but there has been a ton of trades.
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  Speaker 1: We are talking about Lebron in Oakland, going there to
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  Speaker 1: Many people are they're surmising that that is going to
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  Speaker 1: be his next move, that he is going to end
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  Speaker 1: up with the Warriors. That has been the most dominant talk.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen Knicks fans ask, you know, for him to
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  Speaker 1: come to the Nixon a vet minimum. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: any part of that. I've also seen, you know, some
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  Speaker 1: people talk about him going back to Cleveland. I've even
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  Speaker 1: seen Detroit floated. Who knows where he's going to end up,
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: but we do know that Kawhi Leonard is going to
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  Speaker 1: the Toronto Raptors. There is a trade. I'm the details.
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  Speaker 1: It's brandon Ingram somebody else in some picks bomb. Do
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  Speaker 1: you have the details for that pulled up?
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm actually I'll pulling that up right now.
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  Speaker 3: So it was a couple of picks and pickswaps. So
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  Speaker 3: the trade has been agreed upon. We have the Clippers
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  Speaker 3: receiving unprotected first in two thousand and thirty one and
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  Speaker 3: thirty three, two thousand and thirty in two tho thirty
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  Speaker 3: three seconds, and a twenty twenty seven first round pick swap.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is the first trade or move that
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  Speaker 1: I've seen this offseason that gives me any concern as
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  Speaker 1: a Knicks fan. Am I terrified of this team now
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  Speaker 1: in Toronto? No, But whenever you add Kawhi to not
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  Speaker 1: only a conference but a division foe, it's noteworthy Korai
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  Speaker 1: is still that guy, especially when he's able to be
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  Speaker 1: on the floor. These past couple of seasons, he's been
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  Speaker 1: able to be on the floor more than you know
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  Speaker 1: you've expected from him throughout his entire career. Clearly setting
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  Speaker 1: all that is very important to him. So him wanting
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  Speaker 1: to move away from the Clippers, he definitely wanted to
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  Speaker 1: go somewhere where he was going to be comfortable. He
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  Speaker 1: did have that one half a season in that championship there,
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  Speaker 1: and when you look at that front line, Scottie Barnes
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  Speaker 1: and Kawhi and RJ. Barrett all kind of the same position. Really,
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  Speaker 1: that three four hybrid that you see in the NBA,
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  Speaker 1: I guess can play a little bit at two as well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's positionless basketball nowadays. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: very interested to see how that is going to work out,
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  Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, I think that
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  Speaker 1: you have now a lot of players who are kind
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  Speaker 1: of combo guards who like to work in the mid range.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see a whole lot of shooting, and especially
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  Speaker 1: when they do play against the Knicks. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: who's dealing with Kat, and Kat killed them last year.
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  Speaker 1: But overall, you know, hey, anytime you can add Kawhi
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  Speaker 1: for you know Ingram and some other stuff, you do that,
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  Speaker 1: you know ten times out of ten. But it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be interesting to see what they're doing up there
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  Speaker 1: in the six What do you think about that move on?
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  Speaker 3: I love it for the Rappers. I mean, obviously he
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  Speaker 3: was so instrumental in their title run, you know, in
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  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, and that was up until like the last
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  Speaker 3: year or so, that was the most available we had
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  Speaker 3: seen Kawhi Leonard.
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  Speaker 2: But again, you know, to circle us back to the.
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  Speaker 3: Knicks, it kind of seems like the Raptors are doing
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  Speaker 3: what the Knicks are trying to do. Get multiple wings,
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  Speaker 3: you can switch in guard anybody out there and really
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  Speaker 3: make life difficult. And yeah, when Kawi's mill will to play,
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  Speaker 3: he's a top ten player in the game. Still like
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  Speaker 3: he's still just as dominant, even though you know, lasting
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  Speaker 3: image of last season didn't.
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  Speaker 2: D very well.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not really sorry about but he's still great and
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  Speaker 3: it just makes a lot of sense with the Raptors,
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  Speaker 3: although what doesn't make sense to me is they gave
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  Speaker 3: up way less last time to get Kawiet.
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  Speaker 2: Than they did this time. And he's obviously, like what
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  Speaker 2: eight years older.
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  Speaker 1: Now, different situation because you're getting him on an expiring contract,
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  Speaker 1: so you're getting him for half of a season on
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  Speaker 1: expiring contract, so therefore the price tag is not as
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  Speaker 1: high this time. They're getting him with the intention that
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: he's going to sign a massive extension, so they're going
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  Speaker 1: to have him for the long run, so therefore you're
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: gonna have to give up more. And yeah, that comment
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  Speaker 1: about as far as them basically trying to match up
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  Speaker 1: with the Knicks. I mean, you heard Windhorse say it
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  Speaker 1: the other day on the Rich Eisen Show. He said that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Knicks of breaking teams that there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of teams right now that are just looking
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  Speaker 1: at themselves and saying, how are we going to beat them?
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  Speaker 1: And obviously having big two way wings is the formula,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I think the Knicks what they did was
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  Speaker 1: they put together a team of guys who they're not
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  Speaker 1: just shooters. Okay, so the whole five out, Let's have
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of shooters. We know obviously the Dubs did
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  Speaker 1: that minus Draymond. We know obviously that you know, the
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  Speaker 1: Celtics had that five out and let's shoot them and
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  Speaker 1: let's chuck up a bunch of threes. What the Knicks
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  Speaker 1: do is they put three level scores all over the floor,
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  Speaker 1: three mid range, go to the basket. So therefore that
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  Speaker 1: extra space it makes for Brunson having, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: ability to maneuver and get to his spots in the
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  Speaker 1: mid range or get all the way to the bucket.
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  Speaker 1: And especially with a guy like Kat, you know, that
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  Speaker 1: drastically changes how you can protect the rim. But in
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  Speaker 1: addition to that, everybody that you kick it to, they're
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  Speaker 1: not just looking to just chuck up a three. They
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  Speaker 1: can put the ball on the floor, they can get
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  Speaker 1: to the rim. You know, there's that famous play that
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  Speaker 1: the Knicks had in the finals where we move, move, move, move, move.
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  Speaker 1: It ends up with a you know, catch, get into
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  Speaker 1: the into the lane, swing catch, get into the lane.
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  Speaker 1: It ends up with a bridge is three as the
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  Speaker 1: shot clock expired. I think that's the difference between, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what the Knicks are doing currently as compared to some
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  Speaker 1: of these other teams that have tried to put you know,
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  Speaker 1: that whole five out, you know, all shooter system. The
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  Speaker 1: Knicks actually have guys who can score in a multitude
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  Speaker 1: of ways all over the floor. So therefore, you are
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  Speaker 1: put in a position where you can't double Brunson, or
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  Speaker 1: if you do, he's got somebody who is going to
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  Speaker 1: flash to a spot and be able to hit that shot,
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  Speaker 1: or if you do, decide to stay home. As we know,
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  Speaker 1: no one can stop him one on one. So I
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  Speaker 1: do think that that's a huge difference from you know,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: some of these other teams. And I do think that
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  Speaker 1: you see other teams scrambling to try and match what
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  Speaker 1: the Knicks can do, whether or not, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: scared of any of these other teams. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: Toronto gives me some pause. You know, they make me
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  Speaker 1: a little bit nervous. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: I like the Knicks. I like what the Hornets have done.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Hornets have done a good job of
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  Speaker 1: creating a team with just a bunch of shooters. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think that when you have a guy
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: like LaMelo Ball and you realize that as talented as
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: he is, he his attitude, his leadership. Clearly they felt
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: like he wasn't the guy and they needed to move on.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: They also trade Bridges. They trade Miles Bridges and a
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: first rounder to the Suns for Grayson Allen and Roy O'Neil.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I like that trade for them as well. I do
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: kind of like that trade for the Sons too. I
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: think that Miles Bridges not the best guy, that's for sure.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I try my best not to, you know, get too
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: much in, you know, judging these guys because their personal lives.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: But you know, there's certain things over here at the
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Independent Nick Show that we have no tolerance for, and
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: one of those is raising your hand to a woman.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but him and Dylan Brooks on the same team.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be a really tough nosed team, and they
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: kind of give, in my opinion, the kind of surrounding
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: pieces to Booker that he needs to be able to
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: thrive as a score that he does. So I think
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: that Phoenix is definitely on the come up a little bit,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: and I think that Charlotte is on the come up.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Miami added Tim Hardaway Junior. Today. They needed to add
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: more shooting, for sure, So them continuing to add shooting
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: to flesh out that roster outside of you know, Jannison Bam,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I think that Miami to me, they're they're gonna be
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: more of a threat, not this coming season, but the
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: season after. They need still a little bit more time
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: to flesh out that roster in my opinion. But at
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, everybody's chasing the Knicks.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: What else we got? What are some of the other
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: big moves that have been going on?
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: You know, honestly, this has been such a dut of
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: free agency so far, it's been it's been so minimal,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Like it's like I said, you that giffe of the
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: baby falling flat on its face, you know, to start
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: a free agency.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: It's basically been that. There's been a couple of small
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: moves here in the last like hours.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: We have Kean Ellis going to the Nets two years
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: eighteen mil. And then we have Luke Canard going to
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: the Suns two years thirteen mil.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Oh I didn't see that one. I like that one.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I like that one for the Suns.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'm just about forty minutes ago.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So they replaced Grayson Allen with another duke
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: boy and a shooter. Yep, yeah, he shot pretty well
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: for the Lakers at times when they got him.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: After he went to the Lakers, he definitely had some
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: moments where he was lighting it up. And he seems
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: like the type of guy that you know, you just
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: got to get him in the right situation and he's
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: going to be a valuable piece. You don't ask too
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: much of him, and on that team, they're not going
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: to I like that move for the Suns quite a bit.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I think if you can add a legitimate, you know,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: knockdown consistent shooter, fine, and Luke Canard has been he
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: has become a more consistent knockdown shooter as his career
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: is progressed, So I do like that as well.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, big news is that, you know what I mean.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately this is not as big of news as you
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: would expect it to be, to be quite frank, but
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: John Rant ends up out in Portland. Uh, you're gonna
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: be able to see Jah, you know, whenever you want
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: here coming soon for at least forty one games. Uh,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: John Morant Man, Honestly, it's one of the.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Games. I mean, dude has been before.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: We're not even talking with suspensions, We're just talking straight
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: up injury every year or something.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's one of the biggest falls
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: from Grace. I So I wasn't huge on Zion coming out.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I you know, I was like, I hope the Knicks
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: get the second pick because I want them to take
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: John Rant. When I saw John Morant in college, I
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: was like, this, this guy is He's it. He's the thing,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: you know, just crazy athleticism, some dog in him, you know,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: had the look, had the form to me that made
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: me feel like he was going to have, you know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: a good jump shot once he spent some time in
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the league developing it. But overall, I mean, have we
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: seen a like The other thing is is that when
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: he came in and he set the league on fire,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: he did all the things that we expected him to do.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: And then obviously off the court troubles and then on
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: the court his game hasn't developed as much as you
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: would like to see, especially that jump shot. And then
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: also when we go ahead and we add in the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: fact that he's been oft injured and now he gets
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: sent over to Portland for a bag of balls. Basically
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Portland has fifteen guards on their team. You know, I
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: don't know exactly what their plan is. It seems like
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: maybe there's another move coming. Some people have talked about
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: some Jalen Brown maybe, But yeah, I find it very
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: interesting that, you know, he got sent over and that
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: he is now going to be in a back court
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: with Damian Lillard. I don't I don't see it. I
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: don't see the fit.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. And don't forget Drew Holiday either. Right, Yeah,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: he's there.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the good news is, you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: having those two around can maybe hopefully straighten him out.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Scoot too, it's Scoot.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: He started coming on a little bit late last season
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: after the hamstring injury.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: You know a lot of people up here.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Talking about is he a bust all ed and all
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: this and that, and then you know, he had his moments.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: You know, he's not quite out of the bust works yet,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: but he's not. He's like kind of got.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: One foot in the bucket, so to speak.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: But they could end up moving him because he's a
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: very valuable trade ass at this point, he's only through
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: two years of his rookie contract. He's got the third
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: and fourth year options, which I'm sure the Blazers will
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: pick up. Despite the fact Tom Dunden, the new owner
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: doesn't want to pay for anything.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, moved a team, you don't get t
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: shirts that I've never seen an NBA owner come in
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: and like his immediate thing is like a he like
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: he went like straight doge on the no.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: That's what we've been calling him.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: We've been calling him Doge Dundon, like I kind of
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: started and it just kind of like at least like
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: my circle of friends here who are Blazer fans and
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: all kind of just picked up and we've been calling
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: him doch. He actually did the same thing in Carolina
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: with the Hurricanes a little bit, you know, came in
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: really hard nosed and kind of you know.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Kind of just cost cutting this, cost cutting that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: But you know with them now pay attention to the
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: to the to the on ice slash court product and
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: it paid off.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Hard to argue with the product. Like you said, man, yeah,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I think that at the end of the day. You know,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: these types of things when you're an owner, it's like,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: you know, Dolan got all the shit in the world
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: for a very long time, but once you win, all
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that goes away. So you know, we'll see what ends
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: up happening out in Portland. But it's a shame because
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: some of the best fans in the league. I mean
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: that's been the case going back to, you know, the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: early nineties. As early as I can remember watching basketball,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: it was always a thing. And they say, even going
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: back to like those Bill Walton seventies teams, that it
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: was one of the best fan bases that there is.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: So it's it's sad that their possibly you know, might
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: lose their team. I don't know if that's just bluffing,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: but they don't want to play for a stadium, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: he says somebody else will. It'll be interesting to see
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: how that plays out. And it's going to be interesting
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: to see how things play out for John Morant this year.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I do who would think that Morant playing with Avida
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: is good?
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I like that kind he has been.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: His game has taken, his game has gone up like
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: leaps and bound since he got to Portland. Yeah, and
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: it's another guy like I personally missed on in the
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty draft, Like people were talking. I was like, Amn,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: that's the hottest guy, and you know, for a while
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: was right, and then all of a sudden he comes
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: to Portland and now he's an All Star, Like he's
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: a legit triple double threat.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Every single night. He you know, just can shoot it.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: He can score it multiple ways, and he just rebounds
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: and he passes well, he gets the break going and
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: he just you know, he's really become a fan favorite here.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Advia is the perfect player to play
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: with job because he is a little bit more of
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: a point forward and it allows John to get off
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the ball. I think that's going to be very important
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: for his game moving forward, because you know, he's not
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: necessarily like a distributor or a floor leader, and you know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: he's not like a guy when you have a scoring guard.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: If he doesn't have a good jump shot, then that
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: means that basically, you know, he's just attacking over and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: over again. In today's NBA, defenses are too smart, they're
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: gonna load up. You're gonna have a tough time with that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Whereas I feel like with Advia, you know, handling the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: ball and kind of you know, running the offense. You know,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Jile'll be left to do what he does best. You
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: got Dame Dalla, you know, spreading the defense. Who knows
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: is he supposed to be ready for the beginning of
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: the season.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, he's uh, he's I think fourteen months
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: now past the Achilles injury.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: So yeah, he So when the Bucks waived.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: And stretched him, he was just always gonna he was
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: always rehabing, aired and just to be ready for twenty
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: six twenty seven.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: So yeah, he will be ready to go. I don't
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: think I I.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Look forward to that. I love Dame. I've always loved
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: him as a player, really really enjoyed him. So I'm
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: looking forward to him getting back healthy and getting back
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: out there. Really, at this point, we've only seen a
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: couple guys come back from the Achilles and be really successful.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Kobe had some success when he came back from it,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: but he really really was never himself. He was in
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: fans in age at that point. Anyway. Obviously, Durant has
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: come back and you know, played and had really good
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: successful season since. So it'll be interesting to see with
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Lillard and what he's able to do. Like I said,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Klay Thompson has come back from it too, but you know,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: his to me very much tried to be it did
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: not work.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like his what he was able to
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: do prior to Achilles injury on the defensive end, which
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I think is the most underrated part of his game.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: You know that that you saw a big difference in
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: that there's no ifens or buts about it. So yeah,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: we'll be able to see. We'll see what Dame Dalla
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: is able to do. Uh. Free agency wise, is there
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: anything that we're missing? Is there any any other big
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: deals that are going on?
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: All the other moves have been very very minor.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Like the first one, let's see, we've all we got
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: something breaking here from Sham's Uh. Free agent foward Dan
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Wade from the Calves has agreed to a deal with
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: the Sixers. He was a pretty significant role player for
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: the Calves last year, you know, seventh six or seventh
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: man for them.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was invisible in the series against the Knicks.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Yep, and now he's head to Philly where he could
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: probably be invisible against them again.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: You know Philly again though, Like, how many wings are
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: they gonna play? I mean, you know, if you keep
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: quitting Grimes and then obviously you have Maxie, who's kind
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of a wing. You have you have a Edgecomb kind
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: of a wing, Paul George a wing. Like, like, how
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: many wings can you have. It seems that teams are
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously loading up on wings to try and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: match what the Knicks are doing. I just don't know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you know, to me, it seems like between him, him
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and Grimes, like something's got to give, you know, you know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: it's Crimes on the move. Now. I thought they were
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: pretty high on him. He once again and you know
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: against that series against the Knicks was pretty pretty invisible.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: So I'll be interested to see exactly how that roster
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: fills out by the end of the year. But again,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't move me really.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Definitely not forget. Philly also is under new management now
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: as well. More, they fired Maury.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, that that was a plus obviously. I think
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I think getting rid of Moury was a plus for them,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: for sure. I've never been a fan of that guy.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And I mean the proof is, yeah, no doubt it's
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: gonna again. NBA off season is always lit, you know
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: what I mean. There's always some stuff going on, and
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I'm Lebron basically telling the Lakers that he just listen,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, but I will not be
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: coming back there. He did that, He does that the
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: day after Bronni's contract becomes guaranteed, so he's gonna make
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: his two point three million. Uh, you know, shout shout
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: to him as a dad right there. I'm interested to see,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: you know, what the Lakers do and how they pivot.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: You know, there's the Jalen Duran talk too, right right.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Fifty million cash stays now, like they just lebron leaving
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: open up fifty two million cash stays for them.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: They have a lot of room.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: To be able to, you know, add to that roster.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: And I think Eyton still on the team for now,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: isn't he?
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Ayton? H he accepted his player options, so he's back.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I would too about him.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: It's like eight point nine million something like that. Yeah,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna get paid like that anywhere else. I
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: saw some people float that if Mitchell Robinson doesn't end
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: up coming back to the next that we should go
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: after eight and a couple of weeks ago, and I
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: was like, absolutely not. Guy as far away from my
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: locker room as possible. I mean, yeah, honestly, you need
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: to keep him in LA because if he plays anywhere
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: where there's you know, some sort of inclement weather, he's
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: liable to get snowed in and miss a game.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I was that.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: That's some bullshit, man, I'm sorry. I understand.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: At the game I went to the game that night
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: that he couldn't make it. Yeah.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Listen, for those of you that don't know, there
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: is nobody who attends more sporting events than Jason Baum.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: There is absolutely no one. I mean, you know, I'm
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: in a couple of different group chats with him, obviously.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: You know, he's a friend of mine and we've been
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: friends for years at this point. Shit, it's it's like
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: a decade at this point, Doug. I mean, he's at
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a different stadium, arena, any sport. Fuck. Last week you
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: were in a you were he saw the bananas and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: like Oregon or something, right, Yeah, I or.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: At a University of Oregon on Sunday.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen you at w NBA games. Okay,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: let's okay, let's let's let's uh, let's let's peel this
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: onion back a little bit. How many Major League parks
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: have you been to?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Twenty seven?
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Twenty's on active, twenty seven active? Yeah, insane, But there's
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: thirty teams in the MLB, right or thirty two? Thirty
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: what are the three you haven't been to?
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Uh, I was gonna say Kansas City, Houston.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I was supposed to go to Houston a couple of
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: years ago, but that got hurricaned out and then Toronto.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I mean twenty seven is insane. Oh rules
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I I at some point, you know, would love like
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: when I'm retired. My wife and I have talked about
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: she loves like just like going to like a ballpark
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: and the food and like that whole experience. We've talked
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: about like taking a summer and just moving around and
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: like following the Mets and going to different ballparks. It
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: would take a few summers, I would guess, if not
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: many more, to be able to catch up to you. Okay,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: what about NBA arenas? How many?
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: So NBA and NFLO the two I don't entirely chase on.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: We've been to light six NBA arenas.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised it's only six, but even that, it's quite
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: a few. And then I know you've been to quite
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: a few hockey Yeah. I mean, come on, guys, this
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: is this is this is insanity. You know this guy.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: If you want to talk about somebody who is dedicated
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: to making it to see every live sporting event he
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: possibly can. It's this guy. And when it comes to
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: just overall sports knowledge and trivia, I've never met anybody.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know, like you know, the those I
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: wish that stumped the Schwab was still out there so
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: we could get you on it and get paid, because
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: if you want a true sports encyclopedia, you know there
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: in the corner you're looking at him, mister Jason Baum.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Dude, we got Sports Jeopardy on Netflix coming out, you know,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: and it's being hosted by Joe Buck. But unfortunately they're
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: only opening it to celebrities, which is total bs.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to make the questions much easier. Like, Okay,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: so I'm an avid Jeopardy watcher. I've slowed down quite
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: a bit since, you know, my guy Treppek passed away.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: But I'm an average avid Jeopardy watcher, have been since
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I'm a kid. I love watching Celebrity Jeopardy with my
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: kids because they make the questions so much easier. And
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: my kids think I'm a fucking genius. They think I'm
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: so smart because Celebrity Jeopardy, I can run through that shit.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: But you know, there's that famous clip, and we've seen
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: before when you get the regular Jeopardy contestants up there
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: and there's a sports category, they're quite often very clueless
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: or there's one of them who knows and he runs
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: straight through it. So I'm interested to see when they
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: do the celebrity sports Jeopardy. But Bomb Bomb, I don't
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: know if you guys know, but he lives under free
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: not quite but uh that's yo, dude. That sounded like
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: somebody was driving a motorcycle like straight through your fucking
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: living room.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: There are some people in this part of Washington who
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: really like the muffled engines. I don't get it. I've
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: never understood it. I don't never want to understand it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I just you know, if that's what you want to
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: get it, if that's what you need to get attention,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: then I'm sorry for you, man.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I've never understood the whole. Like you know, I'm going
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: to have this really loud car thing after you're about
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: like twenty five thirty years old. Now, if you have
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: like an old muscle car from back in the day,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: or you have like a Ferrari or a Lambeau or
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: something like that, That's one thing. I think if you
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: have a car like that, you need to have multiple vehicles,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: and at your play vehicle and you have a more
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: practical one. But if you are just a normal guy
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and you're going out and making modifications to your vehicle
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: to make it louder, I just I can't understand that
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: you're being very inconsiderate to your neighbors and people that
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: have to be around you. And I just don't get
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the appeal. I personally, I drive a Tesla, so it's
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: literally silent, and I love that. But yeah, the loud car.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, dude, I listen. I grew up in the
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: era fast and the furious. You know, I get it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: You know, I had a Honda Civic was my first car.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Everybody was, you know, trying to put ground effects and
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and you know, and and and and all this different
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: ship and trying to you know, get some intake and
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: make it a little bit louder and bump up. Uh
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: as a grown man, I I just don't get it.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I've never anserted either in the cars that I've seen,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: like Demo's cars, or either been a motorcycle or a
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: car like a Honda Civic or like.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Some old Hontiac. It's like not even it's not in
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: the class of cars that you just previously mentioned.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Let's just say that gotcha, gotcha? What what what were
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: we talking about before we heard that that loud uh?
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Traveling the ballparks and going to see games and and everything.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sports Shepardy, Sports.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Jeopardy, gotcha, gotcha?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Got you.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: See, that's that's that's why, that's why, that's one of
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: them any reasons that I need you, but is to
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: keep me on track because you know, I'll go down.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I'll take a write on a on on Tangent Boulevard
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: and and never get back to the main road. But yeah,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: so it's very impressive that you go to all these
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: different places. I'm really excited for Sports Jeopardy. I'm hoping
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: that they I'm hoping that they keep it somewhat you know, difficult, like,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: don't make it too easy, even if you do have
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: the celebrities on. Let's find out who really knows some shit.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: But yeah, man, NBA free agency. You know, Shams is
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: working overtime. I heard people giving Shams some shit the
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: other day for his draft coverage. I guess he was,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: you know, having some trouble. He was stumbling. He's been
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: on it these last couple of days. I mean, this
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: is this is his this is his world Series, this
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: is his finals. His super Bowl is this time of year,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: and I guess this is the deadline, and you know,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: there's no woes to compete with anymore. And it seems
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: like Shams is the first to break everything. So shout
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: to Shams for sure for working hard right now. And
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: it is this is a time where I turn on
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: my post edifications for shumps just to make sure that
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I'm staying up. And I'm lucky enough I got my
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: super producer to do it for us, so I'm not
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: checking my phone as we're doing the show. But very
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: interesting to see how things play out with Jayalen Duran
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: specifically for me, I think it's crazy that Detroit is
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: just blowing things up. You know, they won sixty games
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: last year. They are a team without a whole lot
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: of experience. You know, they lost in the first round
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: to the next two seasons ago first round or did
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: we beat them in the second round.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I can't know.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: You guys beat them in the first round. It was
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: very it was very late April round one. Yeah, you
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: guys beat them in six games.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I remember this.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I was in Jersey with a bunch of Knicks fans
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: watching the endgame when Brunson hit the shot in game six.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Oh wait, we're talking about Jalen Brunson being lunch again.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: That shot by Brunson, Man, I mean, wow, yeah, we're
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: going I got I got a couple of things to
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: say about JB. So we're gonna circle back to him
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: for sure. But that whole team seems to be blowing up,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and they have Jalen Deurn looking to go somewhere else
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: because he didn't get the offer that he likes. He's
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: got meetings today. I think what's supposed to be the
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Lakers and the King sign and trade with the King
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Zach Lavine, or maybe Siboni's coming back, Sabona's coming back
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: for them. I like the idea of Sabonis being able
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: to take some of the pressure off of Cad and
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: he is another guy who's been successful kind of be
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: in that hub or you know, point forward big man.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: The issue is is that he's not a lob threat.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: And Duran and kid with the pick and roll in
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: him rolling to the basket seemed like it was so
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: successful last year. Zach Lavine is a guy who never
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: finds his way to a winning organization or a winning situation.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: It seems like, and I just I'm interested to see,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: wow much of that team actually comes back. You know,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: it looks like Duncan Robinson is looking to get bought out.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson is trying his best just to get back
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: to Miami. It seems like, give me a buyout so
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I can get back to Miami. You live in Miami,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: you play with Miami for all those years. You spend
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: one winner in Detroit, and you're like, get me the
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: fuck out of here. And it's just, you know, I've
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: never seen a team be so successful and young and
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: then go into the offseason and look like they just
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: want to totally blow it up. The one thing I'm
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: scared about, pretty please do not let Jalen Brown find
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: his way to Detroit. That would make me nervous. I
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: don't want you. I do not want Jalen Brown on Detroit.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: And yeah, man, that whole situation when it comes to
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the Celtics and just the overall disrespect for a guy
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: who won Finals MVP just two seasons ago. I find
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: it very interesting. I think there's some things going on
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes why they love Jason Tatum so much
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: in Boston. But it seems like Jalen Brown is someone
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: fallen out of favors. All these times where we're seeing,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: you know, these possible trades for Giannis or them even
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: going from for some other big names. It always seems
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: like Jaylen Brown is out there, but Jason Tatum is untouchable.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Where if you look at injury history, if you look
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: at stepping up and being the man in the finals,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: people forget it's not that long ago that he locked
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: up Luca and was the best offensive player on a
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: team that won the finals. Yet it seems like they
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: have so much more love for Jason Tatum. I don't
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: know exactly why that is. Where you when you look
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: at Jylen Brown and some of the things that he
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: likes to speak up about, and when you also look
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: at the history of not just the Celtics but sports
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: in Boston, it makes you think a little bit, I'll
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: leave it at that. If you can connect the dots,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: it makes you think a little bit exactly is what
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: is going on there? But ah, you know, if I'm Detroit,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I'm doing everything to get him everything. If I'm Detroit,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: i am doing absolutely everything because you need one more
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: player who you can give the ball to and say
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: get me a bucket and take the pressure off Kate
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I think Kate is a great player.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I think that what you saw in the playoffs last
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: year was they just simply didn't have enough shot makers
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: on the floor. That's the league that we're in now.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Everybody on the floor has got to be able to shoot.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Everybody and if everybody on the floor can't shoot, then
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: their liability and they better be able to do something else,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: extremely extremely elite if they're going to be part of
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: your rotation. The only player that the Knicks player that
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: can't shoot is Mitchell Robinson. He's the best offensive rebounder
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: in the game, and he's an elite defender and he
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: still plays like fifteen minutes a game. So at the
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: end of the day, if you're going to field a
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: roster that's going to beat the Knicks, that's gonna win
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: an NBA championship, Guys who can't put the ball in
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the basket, they gotta be elited. Something else they have
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: to be. And Jaylen Brown is definitely a guy who
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: can put the ball in the basket, and it seems
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: like that he's gonna get moved. They're gonna end up
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: moving in for pennies on the dollar at this point,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: because everybody knows they want to get rid of him,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: and I don't think they can bring him back him
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: his personality, who he is. I think that if you
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: bring him back and you start off camp next year
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: with him in that locker room, I think that's going
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: to be an absolute disaster personally. Yeah, and we're talking
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: about free agency, we're talking about the offseason. We got
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: to bring that full circle and we got to talk
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: about what the Knicks have done so far, which is
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: sign Mo Diajuara for a very team friendly deal. Didn't
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: negotiate or look at anybody else. Alvarado, he comes back
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: a three year deal. He you know, says, okay, let's
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: push the team option out till after the draft, and
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: once that's done, Outada comes back. I mean, Jose Alvarado.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but that guy, you know, he can't play
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: anywhere else at this point from his point of view.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: If the Knicks end up deciding they want to move
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: on from him, that's one thing but from him his
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: point of view, a Brooklyn kid who played in a
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Queens and has now come here and become a champion
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: with the Knicks. To him, this is absolute dream come true.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Fuck a couple extra dollars, He'll make so much more
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: money on the back end just by being associated and
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: with this team. And then also Landry Shammitt. Landry Shammitt
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: comes back for four years twenty four million, A massive,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: a massive discount for Landry Shammitt. Compare that to Champenny,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: who personally I like Landry Shammitt better. I think he's
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: a better player. I think he's more clutch. I think
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: he's more versatile, he's a better defender, and he's just
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: as good as a shooter. He's a better shooter. And
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: he got three years forty five, he got fifteen per
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: as compared to Landry Shammitt going four years for twenty four.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I just think that's amazing. That just shows the power
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: of friendship. I think that it is clear that this
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Knicks team is taking the lead from Jalen Brunson, the captain,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: him deciding to say, hey, I'm going to take a
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: lot less to be able to feel the big a
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: better team, he goes the Tom Brady or the Tim
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Duncan route, and I think we're gonna see Kat do
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: the same. I think we're gonna probably see Josh Hart
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: do the same. Michale Bridges took a little bit less.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Ogi took a little bit less, not a ton, not
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: one hundred million less like your boy JB did. But
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: all of them are now understanding the fruits of their
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: labor and understanding what it is to be a Nick
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: and once a Nick, always a Nick. You look at
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: the Knicks, one of the things they do better than
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: everybody is involving their former player. I mean there is
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: guys like Aman Shumper, who won a championship with Cleveland,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: but he's still sitting there on the baseline cheering on
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: the Knicks when the Knicks are playing against Cleveland. So
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: all these guys know they're coming back and being associated
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: with the Nick. I mean there's guys like like Marburry's
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: time when he was with the Knicks not definitely some
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: of the worst years of his career overall and overall
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: not just not a great time. I think a lot
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: of it wasn't his fault. It was you know, he
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: was here during the Isaiah Years. That's really hard to
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: work out and be good for you no matter what.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: But all of these players, all of these guys, the
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: John Wallace's of the world obviously, the Larry Johnson's my
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: boy Spree, Kurt Thomas, my other guy, you know, my
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: good friends. I should say those guys, you know, they
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: all are loving being back and being involved with this team.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: And I think that guys like Shamitt, guys like Alvarado,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: they see that and they're like, I want that, I
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: want that. I'm telling you, if you see Landry Shammitt
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: out at a restaurant in New York City and you
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: let him pay for his meal, shame on you. You're
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: not a Knicks fan. We gotta make sure that we
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: do our best to roll out the red carpet, all
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the bells and whistles, and take care of our guy,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Landry Shammitt because he comes back on a huge discount.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that I don't have to watch him
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: hit threes in a Miami Heat jersey against the Knicks.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Landry, reappreciate you, my guy. You know. I'm
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: just I couldn't be more thrilled with the fact that
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: we are bringing everybody back. The one chip out there
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: left to fall is Mitchell Robinson. Many people say there's
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: no chance that we can bring Mitchell Robinson back just
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: because he is probably going to get anywhere between twelve
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: to fifteen million on the open market. We don't have
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: that to offer him if we want to stay under
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: the second apron. I've seen a lot of people criticizing
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Dolan for coming out and making the statement that we
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: want to stay under the second apron. I think that
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this is not a
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Dolan being cheap decision. This is the entire organization wanting
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to be able to have the flexibility and the maneuverability
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: that you lose once you go into the second apron.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I've seen a bunch of different scenarios, bunch of different capologists,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: people much smarter than me. To me, the only chance
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: to bring Mitch back is if Kat and Heart take
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the discount so that next year we'll be able to
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: up his salary quite a bit to be able to
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: get that aav up. But this year he's going to
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: have to take a massive discount now for Mitchell Robinson, Mitch,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day to be able to
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: really accentuate what you do well to be able to
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: get you through a season and get you a chance
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: to be a contributor on a contender. The Knicks to
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: your best bet. And here's why last year Mitchell Robinson
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: did not play the second halfs of back to backs.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Last year in general, beyond just pulling him out for
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: back to backs, the Knicks were extremely judicious about Mitch,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: how he was feeling, and making sure that we got
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: him to the playoffs and eventually the finals healthy. Mitch's
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: had massive injury concerns throughout his career. He's had foot
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: and ankle injuries. I mean, if you look at Mitch
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: next time you get a chance to look at Mitchell
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: on the floor, look at his feet. His feet are
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: tiny for a seven foot guy. He wears a size
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: thirteen shoe. He's a foot taller to me, I'm six'
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: one six' to two on a, good DAY and i
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: wear a size twelve and. A half so being that
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: tall and having that small a feat to me is
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: a recipe, for having, you know lower. BODY injuries i don't.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: KNOW why, i mean you look at his foot Next.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: To cat cat wears a size twenty and they're about the,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: same Height and i'll look at the vast difference in.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: THEIR feet i Think that mitch has a chance to
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: continue to build a legacy and continue to look. His
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Best if mitch goes to another team and they pay
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: him fourteen million dollars, a year they're not paying him
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: that to not play the second half of back. To
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: backs they're not paying him that, amount to, you know
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: be a guy who plays fifteen minutes. A game they're
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: gonna want starters Minutes, for mitch and they're gonna want
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: him to play every. Single day and now the fact that,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: you're injured the fact that your sucking win at the end,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: of games the fact that you can't make a fucking,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: free throw all of that gets magnified when you're On
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the knicks because of the way that we deploy you
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: and the way we use you and what we need out.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Of you it allows you to come in short bursts
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and just be your absolute best and and focus on
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the things you. Do well get a few, offensive rebounds play,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: some defense, you know give us a good five minutes
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and go, sit down and you know we'll come back
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: to you. Like that three times throughout. The Game that's mitch's.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Perfect SITUATION and i think that if he doesn't realize
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: that and he decides to go somewhere else to make some,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: MORE money i think it'll be great for him in the.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: SHORT term i don't ever begrudge any of these guys
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: getting as much money as they can for doing what
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: they do for. A living never. Begrudge IT but i
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: do think that THE, entire nba and this is, you
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: know some people Would Say jalen. Brunson's doing THE entire
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: nba is now going to be put on notice because
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: we're going to, find out now what's most important?
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: To you.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Is it getting the bag or is? It? Winning mom
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: what do you think? About? That?
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: YEAH good i actually want to jump in HERE and
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: i have a take on THIS because i, remember reading,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: you know within the last year or two about, you
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: know there are certain guys who really love. The game
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: there are certain guys who say or who they don't
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: say it, out loud but who just love what the
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: game game, gives them, you know, the fame, the dollars
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: all the status and everything.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Like that, but yeah, you're right we, you Know with
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: brunson said a.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: Different precedent but there's also, you know bouncing out what
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: the players you need to and there's always, you know
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: that kind of issue of making sure that, you know
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: guys are still getting, you know fair enough. Market value
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: like it's it's a really difficult and fine line to
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: WALK because, I, mean steph for, you know a, few
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: years they're playing under a very bargain. Basement contract but to,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: be fair when he signed, that deal he was really,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: banged up like he was dealing with all the ankle
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: stuff and they didn't know if he was going to,
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: be healthy and then, he exploded and, you know has
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: been playing under max contracts ever since and has never
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: really made, a peep, You, KNOW draymond i know you're
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: gonna hate, this EXAMPLE but i have to bring it.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Up out of, you.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Know fairness when he signed his extension back in, twenty
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: twenty just by rule.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: By, you know by WINNING DP o y within the last.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Couple of years before, the deal he was all over
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: super maxine and even come close, to it and he
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: was fine. With it and now he's opting out and,
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: you know trying to take less money and Give the warrior's.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Flexibility to do that. As well and, you know you
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: see guys On the knicks doing the. Same, THING.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Listen i think, that again it's one of. Those things
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: you can't begrudge a guy for going out there and getting.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: His bread. You can't but in, today's world if you
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: want to build a full roster with, you know a legitimate,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: starting five and you got to figure that everybody in
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: that starting five is going back at least like twenty
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have a couple guys making fifty.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Or sixty somebody is going to have to do some
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: sacrificing monetarily if you want to put that team together
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: and then keep. It TOGETHER and i do think, you
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: know you don't ever want to count somebody. Else's money
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: but once you're in the hundreds of millions, of dollars
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: taking ten, million less taking two hundred instead of, three
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: hundred it's not gonna change anything about your your your
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: day to. Day life it's not like you're gonna be
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: at the grocery, store, like, ah well you know we
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: can't get the organic fruit because, YOU know i only
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: make two hundred note, one hundred you KNOW what. I,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: mean like it's not gonna change anything about your daily
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: life it's not gonna change anything about you and your
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: family and generationally what they're able. To do, you know
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: if you get that type of money OVER an, nba
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: career you SIGN multiple, nba contracts and you have any
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: type of smarts with how you deal with, your money
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: everybody's gonna. Be okay you know you're gonna be okay
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: at the end of. The DAY so i just think,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: that again it comes down to what's important, to YOU
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: and i think That the knicks are almost an unfair
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: example for a. Few reasons brunson did this not just, saying,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: LIKE hey i want to make sure that we can
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: build a. Good team brunson did this, SAYING like i
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: want to be able to make sure that we can
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: keep these GUYS that i already know and like my.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: College buddies so like he he does that with a
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: guy who's known not. His godfather by, The Way leon
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: rose Clarified On The roommate show that he is Actually
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Not jalen, brunson's godfather which is SOMETHING that i thought
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: was true because it's been said by everybody for. However
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: long he Did hold Jalen before rick ever, met him
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: because he was playing ball Over, in australia so he's
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: close with. The Family rick brunson was his first ever
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: client as, an agent so close with the family, all
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: that but not as. Godfather anyway it's a little bit
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: different when this guy who if you've known your, entire
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: life who had all the faith, in you who's already
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: brought you two of your, college players three of, them
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: actually and had to trade one of, them Away And
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: dante DiVincenzo shout to, My, man ragou we feel bad.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: For you get, well soon. My GUY but i think
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: that when you have that type of trust in, the
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: organization it makes it a whole lot easier for you
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: to go ahead And say i'll take. That DISCOUNT and
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: i think that a guy like kat who clearly wants
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: to play For the knicks more than anybody who, you
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: know this means so much to him and has been making,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: you know number One pick max money his, ENTIRE career
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: i think it's easier for him to take. A discount and,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: You Know, josh hart he makes about twenty so him maybe,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: restructuring something pushing some, money out. Deferring, IT okay i,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: get that but he's only gonna take so much of
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: A discount so it'll be interesting to see how that,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: plays out not just For the knicks, moving forward but
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: for the rest OF, the nba because If the knicks
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: continue to, do it and they continue to, be successful
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have owners looking at players, and, saying well
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: if we want to do what, they do then we
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: need our best players to be able to be willing
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: to take a little bit. Less money it's going to
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: be interesting to see how that all, plays out, for
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: sure speaking of money and exchanging hands and how much,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: you know guys, want to, let's say bet. On Themselves,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: malik beasley you know, this guy remember first. AND foremost
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: i looked it UP and i actually tweeted at him
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: after they lost the series To, the knicks not this,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: past season but the season. BEFORE that i wanted him.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: TO know i wanted him to know that my eight
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: year old son says he has butterfingers because after he
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: talked all that shit Towards the knicks during that, playoff
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: series he then had a chance to win, the game
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: got the ball kicked to him, wide open been four
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: to Three After jalen brunson's epic Crossover on duran and
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: that three ball and the ball slipped straight through his
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: hands and it went out. Of bounds and this is
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: after he talked mad shit Towards the knicks in the
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Series on twitter. In INTERVIEWS so i love that. For
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: him and now we're finding out that my guy was
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: just straight up, you know he wasn't throwing games as
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: far as, winning loss but when it came to trying
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: to get his, PROP bets, i mean was. Just blatant
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: some of the clips of him rushing down the floor
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: to get a layup with one second left with his
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: team down, by nine, you know or fighting for a
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: rebound and being so relieved when he gets. The REBOUND
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: and i, don't know have you gotten a chance baum
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: to read some of the some of the different like
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: text message exchanges that were going on with people that
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: were associated. With him first, of all the Fact that
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: charlire texting about. THIS shit, I mean jesus fucking watch
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: an Episode Of the Sopranos Or. The, Wire, goddamn, like
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: yo if y'all are doing some shit, like this you
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: can't you can't be talking, about it, you know in
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: any type of, digital manner y'all need to be talking
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: to each other in person with, no phones even. Around,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: you honestly in, today's world if you don't think that
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: they're all that that they're listening to us all. The time,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: you're bugging make sure you you know you come you
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: come Here on fridays for a little bit of a
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: little bit of tinfoil fitted because we'll talk about something
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: like that before. Too long they're listening.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: To.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Everything okay so in, today's world with the, sports betting
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: with the leagues, being involved and with with all the
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: ways to be able to digitally, monitor things if you
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: don't think that having fifty thousand dollars Bets On malik
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: beasley overs is gonna get flagged and, looked at and
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: then they're gonna be looking at all of. Your correspondence
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: they're like talking about, shit, like well let's talk about
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: this on snapchat. Another. Thing okay, you know if you
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: follow the stand up, Comedy Scene chris delia learn this
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: live on a podcast once and the clip is. Very
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: funny the snapchat messages that you think, are disappearing they
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: don't disappear into, the, world okay like like a just
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: outfit to space and nobody can. Find them they might
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: disappear on, your phone but they are definitely, still accessible, so,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: saying hey let's have this conversation. On snapchat that ain't,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: It Either, Malik, BEASLEY man, i mean just in all
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: time fumbling of. The bag if you play, professional sports
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: if you play big time, college sports you cannot bet,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: on sports especially your, own sport especially your, own team,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: especially you point. Blank PERIOD and I Saw jeff tigue
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: on the five twenty podcast shout to those guys. OVER
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: there i love that pot for those guys to Mostly be,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: indiana guys and as much as they typically hit on,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: the KNICKS but i still like to watch it every.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Single day says something about how entertaining. It is but,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: You Know jeff teague made the point like you already
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: hit a lot of once you made it TO, The
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: nba you're you're a guy who is gonna be making,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: you know somewhere between eight and twenty. MILLION dollars i
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: mean last year he led the league, in threes not this,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: past year the. Year before, you know he continues in.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: That ascension he's looking for. Huge paydays look at some
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: of these paydays that our guys. Are getting look At what,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: harder got look At what. Champenni got like he's about
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: to make money, like that and he's fucking it up.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Over gambling it's just hard. To. BELIEVE balm, I mean
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: i don't talk. To. Me man how do you feel
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: about This whole beasley thing and how it's?
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: PLAYING out, i mean, it's, one YEAH don't i know
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: they always say bet, on yourself, you know like a figure.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Of speech never bet. On yourself so.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: THERE'S that i want him to go back To the
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: snapchat messaging part, really QUICK because i do actually have a.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: FUNNY story i have a friend who was Banned from
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: snapchat for getting into some funny business over it because
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: he thought the same thing he thought the messages disappeared
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: in the.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Thin air turns out they. Did not he got he got.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Busted for some stuff and was banned for, a while
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: but they let him back in like a year or.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: TWO ago, i, mean obviously, You know i'm not gonna
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: ask you to reveal, any NAMES but, i mean when
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: you say some, Funny stuff, i'm curious what are we talking?
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: ABOUT here I will i'll disclose that.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: OFF air i don't think IT'S it's i don't think
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: IT'S a i don't think it's appropriate for, On AIR
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: but i will definitely happily talk to you about it.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Off air in terms of the way, To, COMMUNICATE yeah i,
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: don't know make some handwritten notes and then just burn them.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: OR something i.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Don't, Know, know listen there's certain things that you got
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: to talk about, strictly together like like we gotta be
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: in person and. That's IT like, i said Watch, The,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: sopranos man we don't talk over. The phone go down
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: to the basement where you know it's, not bugged and have.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: A conversation if you're gonna do some slic shit and
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna do some. Slick, shit also it's gotta
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: be with your the people that you, trust, implicitly okay
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: because if one person gets in a little bit, of
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: trouble they're all. GONNA sing i, Mean Honestly, malik beasley
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: he could have been the one that was talking crazy
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: and once he got, you know, found out like, you
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: know went ahead and gave up these. OTHER guys, I
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: know i saw in one of, the transcripts like somebody
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: says something, about, like, oh well, you know IF the fbi,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: is looking they're not going to be looking, at us
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: like AND then i and then somebody immediately left the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: chat was, Like yo, I'm Out, like, YO man i
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: just think. That's CRAZY i'm i can't believe that that
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: is the route that they went. With, that yeah, But
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: uh bleasley, man again the ultimate fumbling of. The bag
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: you already hit. The lotto you were blessed with a
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: certain level. Of size you worked your ass off your
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: entire life to be skilled enough to be, you know
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: a guy who leads the league, in threes and you
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: fuck it up like This Him. TERRY roseier, i mean
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: just absolute just. Jackass. Buffoonery man, come, on man you
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: you cannot you cannot fumble this bag in. That way and,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: you know we we got the Kid From texas tech who,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: you know what's his name again for game soresb there
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: we go. Soresby man he you, know, again guy he
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: helps me stay closer to, the team because feel close
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: to the Team because i'm, You know i'm Injured and
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: i'm not able. To participate you're, a jackass all. These guys,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: just honestly if, you know if my son ever gets
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: to the point where he can be a, COLLEGE athlete
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: i would just tell, Him, listen bud not, through you
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: not through. Anybody else just don't bet on any sports. Ever,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: period now even if it's not, your sport just don't
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: just don't do just it's Too slip. Bavos slope it
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: is an immediate. BLACK guy i mean We Saw, pete,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: rose like, you know not get Into the Hall of
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: fame until he died because of. This shit and he
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: was only betting on his team. To win just no,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: matter what no matter how much you feel like you
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: know you might have some sort, of inkling. You can't
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: if you're making millions, of dollars you should not be
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: able to bet enough that would actually make you feel
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: anything on. The, Inside anyway stay off of, draft kings
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: stay off just just don't even just act like that part.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Doesn't exist you are the person that gets. Out there
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: you don't. Make bets you. Make place stick to.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: MAKING place i was just saying going Back to, beasley
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: too not only just making it TO the. NBA league
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: i mean he had enough to stick IN, The nba
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: like that's the more. Amazing part like there's a lot
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: of guys who make it and. Don't stick he made
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: it stuck and got a fat second was on verge
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: of a on the verge of a. Mega second, contract
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: too which was gonna pay him anywhere between nine and
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: fifteen million dollars.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: A year Bro didn't rosier give up like twenty six
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: million off?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: This bollt yeah.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: He was he was yeah three for sixties twenty to
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: TWENTY five millionar or something.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: LIKE that i don't.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: GET it, i mean what are we what are we? Doing,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: here clearly clearly there's some sort of addiction going. On
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: here this is clearly some sort. OF addiction, I mean
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: i think if you look like sores by the amount
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: that he, was betting just the quantity, of it it
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: seems to me that he was definitely dealing with some
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: sort of, gambling addiction which, gambling addiction, they say is
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: about one of the most crippling addictions that you can.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Ever have, You know i've definitely done. MY share i
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: was doing it way before there was any type of
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: online or digital.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: YOU know.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I was i used to have a just a they
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: wordes straight, up bookie you KNOW what, i mean back in.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: THE day i Think the Statute of limitations are passed on,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: that ONE so i should. Be good, but, yeah man
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: just just just, no bets, make place, not bets make place.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Not bets five.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: MILLION dollars I thought texas tack handled, it poorly, you
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: know saying it's going to cause him a reparable harm
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: if he's not on.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: A team, come on.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Spare, me, YEAH yeah i mean that's when you've got
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: a guy who is the front runner to be, you
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: know the number. One pick, you know you do everything
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: you can to try to keep him on. The field
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: and bravo TO the nfl for not doing the supplemental
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: draft and making sure that this guy does have to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: sit out. A YEAR and, i personally AS an, NFL
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: team i would not.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Touch, HIM no i wouldn't go. NEAR him i wouldn't
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: go near him for a couple. Of years he's only
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: what twenty two or so, Like, that yeah plenty of
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: time to clean his.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Life up and, you know get that. To it if,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: you know enough time masses so, to.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Speak right and show me for a couple of years
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: that you can, you know just not bet. On sports how?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: About that, You know i'm going to have private investigators and,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: you know the entire league or my entire organization looking
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: into You if i'm even thinking about adding you to,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: the team AND if i get any sniff that you're
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: still betting. On sports i'm, OUT personally.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't go.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: NEAR it i would have, you know especially, you know
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: going back to even our initial Talk About miles, bridges
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: earlier when we were talking About remember, matashpia said it's
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: breath conference character.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Above.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: All, yeah yeah.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: And he goes out and trades for Trades For. Miles,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: bridges yeah, you know, for me. THAT'S important i wouldn't
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: touch stores do the.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Time football and the thing about that WAS when i
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: looked at the details of, that case because, LISTEN this
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: i think this needs to be. SAID too i, think that,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: you know whenever there's a claim made, LIKE that i
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: do think that we do have somewhat of a duty
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: to immediately err on the side of believing. The victim
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: but we've seen it plenty, of times especially when it
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: comes to athletes who have a lot of income that,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: is involved and there's sometimes somebody trying to get paid
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: on the. Back end we've seen before where these things
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: happen and they, Come out but when we really get
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: into it and we dig, into it it was just
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: somebody with a scheme trying to get. Some Bread The miles,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: BRIDGES thing i don't remember THE details i do remember
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: the fact THAT when i looked ato the details when it,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: ORIGINALLY happened i, was like oh he did, that.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: Shit, yeah itesome it's.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Pretty gruesome it's. Pretty bad, so yeah not a good guy,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: for sure an all around. GREAT guy i did see
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: a video the other Day Of Karl. Anthony towns he
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: is with the guy from ups in the city riding
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: around and he was showing up to fans and hitt
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Him with nick's, championship gear, surprising them which, was very.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Very cool i'm a very big Fan Of Karl anthony town's.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Full disclosure when he was originally traded To The New,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: YORK knicks i was totally against. THE trade i thought
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of the same things that other people say
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: about him, is true as far as him just being
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: not a good defensive, defensive player two. Perimeter oriented and,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: YOU know i was a Fan Of julius randall and
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: what he brought To. The knicks it took me a
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: couple games Of Watching Karl anthony towns to realize how
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: much of a better fit he was as a basketball
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: player and also just as. A person and, you know
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: being from about fifteen minutes away FROM where i. Grew
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: up he actually he's Actually, From Piscataway. NEW jersey i
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: think he was Born. In edison he went to school
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: in the Touching At, saint joe's so VERY like, i
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: said about fifteen minutes FROM where i. Grew Up so
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: i'm very familiar with. The area and, you know he
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: grew Up a. Knicks fan there's, you know receipts as
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: far as, you know him Rooting For jeremy lynn and
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: stuff like That on twitter back in. The day and
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: from the very beginning that he, got here all he
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: talks about is, the city and all he talks about
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: is wanting to be the best for the team and everything.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Like that and then he. Showed it he he he
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: showed it with his game in the postseason where he
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: really throughout the entire, regular season but specifically in, the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: postseason where he showed that as long as he was
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: involved and he was making, an impact he didn't give
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: a fuck what the team asked him. TO do i
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: am so impressed with him as as as, a guy as. A,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: player uh the First ballot Hall, OF famer i bet
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: that's already been you know with you look at his,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: you know six or Seven all star appearances number. One
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: overall pick really, good year that, one time that one Year.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: In Kentucky, in kentucky people forget That The basketball Hall
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: of fame Is The basketball Hall, of fame it's NOT
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: The nba Hall. Of FAME so I think brunson First
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: ballot Hall. Of famer you look at his, college career
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: what he, Did There national player Of, the year two,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: national championships and now you add to That A finals
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: mvp and obviously. A, championship again, another guy First ballot Hall.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Of Famer but kat gets a lot of flak because
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: of the way he talks or some of, His mannerisms
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: and it is a THING that i find so interesting
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: because it's so clear to me that a lot of
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: people have never. Grown up if you're not from Like,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: the northeast or if you're Not From, south florida and
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: you don't you can't just be from, that place because
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: you can Be From. New jersey but if you're not
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: spending any time In, perth Amboy which Perth and boy
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: would be about Equidistant between CAT and i probably a
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: little bit closer to him where he, grew Up and
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: i'm almost sure that's probably where he was going to
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: get haircuts and shit. Like that because me growing Up,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: in monroe which was, predominantly white or at least spending
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: my high school Years, of monroe which was, middle school
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: high Schoolas, of monroe which is, PREDOMINANTLY white i had
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: to travel Either To new brunswick Or to Perth and
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: boy to. Get Haircuts and Perth, and boy, you know
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: is a very Very strong. Dominican population and then you
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: also have, you know other Pockets In. New jersey but
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: then if you go To dykeman In and dykeman, and
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Like Like, NORTHERN manhattan, I mean, I'm sorry dykeman Or
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: The washington heights Area huge, dominican POPULATIONS and i would
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: say this For the dominicans and The. Perto ricans you
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: go up To, the bronx. Same thing if you meet
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: a dude FROM the dr or whose people are FROM,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: the dr even if he's grown, up here, quite often
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have very, Manicured eyebrows they're going to have
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: certain mannerisms that some people would think are, somewhat effeminate
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: and they're also in the way that. They talk, quite
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: often they're gonna have some people who maybe refer to Them.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: As poppichulo but that's same dude who if you think
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: twice and you think you're slick and you try to
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: say some slick shit, to him he'll slap the fuck out.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Of you he'll beat, your ass and he'll take. Your
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: girl so all of this Talk about kat and him
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: being zesty or being this or, BEING that i like
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: the fact that he's authentically himself and he is whoever
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: the fuck he wants. To BE and i think that,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: you know, you know at the end of, THE day
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: I almost i almost don't even want to like talk
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: about shit, like this, but like, have y'all have y'all seen,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: His Woman, jordan Woods who i'm sure could have her
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: pick of professional athletes successman or whoever the fuck she
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: wants successful on her in her, own right as well
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: as like a legitimate ten out, of ten he's. Doing
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: OKAY and i, think that, you know everybody with this
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: whole narrative, about him first, of all it's clear that
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: you never grew up Around, A poppychulo and second, OF
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: all i, don't know it makes me wonder a little
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: bit about your own security and who you, are Personally
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: but i'll leave it. ON that i won't ask you
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: to comment on it unless you get anything in particular.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: TO say.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: I was, Just like kat's, a high high. CHARACTER person i,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: you know have a thirding real separation. From him My
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: Guy ronnie Tuq knows kat very.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: Very well they have a really. Good friendship and.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: He is going back To his wolves days and like
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: six out of years ago and says nothing but amazing things.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: About, him, yeah man shout Out To Carl. Anthony towns
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: just absolute, great guy all the stuff that came out about.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: You know, you know after he gets traded from, You,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: know minnesota he's showing up at some kids soccer game
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: the next day before he leaves out and Goes To,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: new york just because he had promised that he was. Gonna.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Do so, it's just, you know just seems like an
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: absolute great guy and he's. A champion no one will
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: ever be able to take that away. From him and
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the overall criticism or scrutiny gets
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: over his mannerisms or how, he TALKS sometimes i just think.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: IT'S bullshit i THINK it's i think IT'S low iq,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: COMMENTARY personally i. Really DO and i think that, you
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: know people taking like their sensibilities and how they feel
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: and using that to put, a label, you know such
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: a such a such a strong label on. THE guy
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: i just think it's unfortunate and at the end of,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: THE day i probably do that to other players in.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Certain Instances but cat's, My guy so fuck all y'all
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: who got something to say? About Him world, cup, exciting
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: man it's been Exciting The. World cup i've watched a
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Lot of i've watched a lot MORE non us games,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: this year and it's. Been exciting we've seen all the
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: stars show up and. Show out what's going On with Mexico.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: And ecuador that's on, right now right.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: It is it's in the sixty. Fifth minute mexico is
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: currently up to nil at home. All right as a.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Certain somebody said in, OUR chat i don't Think the
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: ecuadorian players got enough sleep.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Last, night yeah that's crazy how they were trying to
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: keep them up. IN everything, i.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Mean respect home country advantage if you can do it
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: and get away.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: With, it hey anything anything.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: For, an edge, right, AGAIN absolutely i. RESPECT it i
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: respect it From the. Mexico fans they've been showing out
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: This Entire world cup and, You know mexico was a
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: team to be reckoned with. For sure, you know they
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: had a good team. Coming in they've looked really good
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: during this h us Men's national i'm sorry this During
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: This world cup and, you know THE the us men's,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: NATIONAL team i think that they they have to win this,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: first round the, knockout run they have, to win. YOU
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: know i mean you got all, these like, you know,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: good vibes like whether it be this being, the best
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: THE best us men's national team that we've seen going
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Into A. World cup we've been talking about that for
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: a couple of. Years now we have a bunch of
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: young players who play on some of the top teams
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: and some of the, top leagues and they've, you know
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Shown out polistic looks like he's healthy and ready. To
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: go and, you know we've had players that had options CHOOSING,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: the us which is not something that. Typically happens so
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: they definitely definitely cannot lay an egg tomorrow when They,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Play Bosnia. Bosnia arizonia it's Not just. Bosnia, anymore Yeah.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: It's, Bosnia.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: Ueah, bosniavina okay you heard what.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: He said i'm not going to try and.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: Pronounce, That yeah i'm doing my. BEST here, i mean
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: but you. Never know it's a one and, done game
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: and you've seen with, you know the early part of this.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: Knockout STAGE that i gotta do is just get this
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: thing deep in. The game and get this thing deep
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: in the game either not enough or showing by a
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: goal and that underdog is. In business or if you
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: get in, the penalties how anything. CAN happen, i mean
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: those two penalty shootouts yesterday were two of the most
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: insane Penalty shoots i've.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: EVER seen, i mean there was a whole lot of gagging.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: GOING on i know so.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: MANY shanks, i mean, geez uh let me ask, you
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: this how do you Feel about PK's Finishing A world?
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Cup match not, a fan give me a. Golden goal play.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: The games but then you get to a certain, POINT where,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: i mean how long can these guys actually play for
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: extra subs?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Or SOMETHING and i think you'll get what five substitutions a?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Match, total no it's more, than that BECAUSE the us
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: made nine substitutions in their.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: Last match, did, then well they made it in the
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: substitutions in the, starting lineup?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: Didn't, they, OH okay i, had nine but maybe.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: That's okay they started their team, basically.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Sure so sure because of the. Yellow, cards yeah.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: So, they yeah you get five substitutions. A match you
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: get five substitutions.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: Per match it, looks like, you know just, Looking here ecuador's,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: Use three mexico's only, used.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: One you know.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: So far so if you get that deep, the games
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: you get extra substitution or two if you.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Need.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: IT yeah i don't love, the, PKS man, i don't.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: YOU KNOW i i realized that there's a there's a
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: there's an exhaustion factor where, It's, like okay we just played.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: THESE guys, i mean you're playing, what ninety then you're
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: playing you, know what, Another thirty so well you're already
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: paying one hundred and. Twenty minutes and then you know
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: that's not even clowning the, extra time but that the
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: pks at, the end you know something where it, seems
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: like guys are, you know kind of just like guessing
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: for a lot of it being the way that you
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: overall like choose. THE outcome i don't. LOVE it i.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: REALLY don't i, like how, you know like how hockey
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: has that in the, regular season but then once you
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: get to, the playoffs, it's, like hey we're just gonna
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: keep playing until, you know somebody gets. That goal, and
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: yeah the whole golden goal thing obviously would be super
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: exciting if they're if, you know like that that that
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: that ending of like all that build up for a
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: soccer goal and that goal being the game, That, like okay.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: It's over. That's it it's, a wrap. YOU KNOW i
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: i don't love the current the, current setup but they've
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: been playing soccer since forever and they haven't been able
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: to figure out. Anything Different so i'm sure that people
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: who really understand the game much MORE than, i do
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: they have an explanation for why that's the only way to.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: Do, IT yeah, I would i would say the. SAME thing.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: I guess i'm big proponent of sudden. DEATH overtime i
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: think the factor it is. Way matter, but, yeah again,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: bigger field a, lot more, you know you can't obviously
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: in hockey you can make as many line changes as,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: you want whatever, you want how you want when the situation.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: Warns it but not. In, soccer yeah wait for all these.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: Different things unless you play like soccer, like me and
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: that you can sum whenever.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: You want, there's, also uh there's also the whole issue
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: of like, you know running is a little bit more
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: taxing on the body.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: Than skating you, Play, soccer yeah just kind of j
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: just kind of picking up shout out the. Olden breathless
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: that's all on a, team name it's it's, it's yeah
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: it's a, shotgun league, but hey we're.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Doing it did you play soccer? GROWING up? I, did,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: OKAY okay i commend you for the shape you must
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: be in to be able to play any type. Of
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: soccer what kind of what kind of size field do?
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: You guys playing?
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Full field full field?
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: Ninety, minutes yeah well that's not what we were, expecting
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: either but, you know we just we made we made
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: a shotgun decision at a bar, one day and that's now.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: WE'RE here i commend you for that. For sure, uh
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: yeah excited FOR this us. Game tomorrow, You know I'll
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: be i'll definitely be. DIALED in i did see did?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: You know did you? See that there was a one
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: of the guys talking Soccer? On fox he was talking
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: about How the argentinian team they are just always looking
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: To feed messy the ball and, it's like, you know
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: at the end of, the game, it's like, you know
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: THE the nba Where It's, lebron james or it's Or It's.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Jaylen brunson you get him the ball and you just
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: you expect them. To deliver did you?
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: CATCH that i did not, see That but, i've, seen like,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: you know clips. Of them, you know just how they
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: know where he is basically at. All times IT was
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: i think it was in the second match when he
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: scored one of, his goals when he basically just kind of,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: you know it was kind of, just, lurking, lurking lurking
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: and then all of, a sudden he kind of comes
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: out of nowhere and there's a guy.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: You know the balls in the courts or, you know
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: just outside.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: The box guy crosses the ball in the middle and
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: the guy looked like it was going to just let
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: it go right through his legs. And messy it was
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: just there and just. Buried, it yeah, you know for
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: a goal, like that that sort. Of thing they just
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: kind of know where he is.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: At, all times always looking. For him they know that
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: he's going. To deliver he runs less than any player
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: in all. Of soccer he just ows how to be
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: efficient and be in the right spots. To SCORE and
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: i thought the Comparison to brunson was very, APT because,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: I mean i've watched the highlights Of this knicks playoff
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: run just an infinite amount of times at, this point
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: and one of the things that, you see especially late,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: in games, is That like brunson has given it up
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: to somebody just so they can give it right back,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: to him the entire team is on the same, page, That,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: like hey we're gonna make sure that we get the
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: ball to him in these situations because he's either going
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: to create something great for himself or for, somebody else
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: and when it is time for him, to shoot he's
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: probably gonna. Make IT and, I mean i think you
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: could say the same Thing. ABOUT messi, i mean just,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: ultimate leadership, ultimate durability and ultimate, clutch factor something that
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: you could say About both Messi And. JALEN brunson i
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: think that you know those those and also a smaller
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: guy who is consistently dominant against much. BIGGER guys i
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: think those comparisons are.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: Very apt excepts.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's true one of the Biggest things i'm
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: one of my Things that i'm most interested to see
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: going against the next season are specifically brunts and But
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: specifically cat does he start getting like a, champions whistle,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: you know because.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: IT'S like tacki foul calls against him sort, of THING.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: The tacki fouls, against him, the fouls, you know the
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: offensive fouls where they're saying he's hooking a guy, where like,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: you know this guy is taking his arm and he's
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: putting It under, cat's arm And so cat is just
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: doing this and that's he's. LEAVING it i mean the
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: one Time with wemby and they even they even looked,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: at it they even looked at it and they and they, still, said,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: yeah NO that's i. Don't understand so sometimes.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: With, the uh the funny part was the colon the
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: floor was a defensive foul and they changed to an,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: offensive foul which, to me there was nothing there to.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: HURDURN that i don't.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: GET it i. Really, Don't honestly i've never seen a
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: guy get a more unfair Whistle. Than cat, Now me
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: i'm always annoyed with, the referees, YOU know. I was
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: I was i was given given a referee shit in
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: a in an eight and uh in a nine to
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: ten game just This, past SATURDAY as i do Every,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: single SATURDAY because, i mean there's just sometimes where there's
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: some of the things that they miss, is insane even at,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: that level and when we're talking about the absolute highest
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: level and we're talking about the benefit, OF replay i don't.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Get It sometimes i'm, just like what WHAT am i
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: seeing right now that they're? NOT seeing i don't. GET
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: it i. Really don't you know that brunts in where
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: they called the they called the the flagrant on him
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: for getting in the landing space where it just where
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: it seemed like. He wasn't he didn't back up in
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: a guy's. Landing space he's inside a three point line
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: where the shot started in the outside outside of the three,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: point line and the guy falls and hits the back
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: of his leg in, his heel and that somehow is a.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Flagrant foul but, You know wemby can blatantly look down
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: at the ground and put his big ass Foot underneath
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: brunson while he's in the air shooting a three and
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: that doesn't even get called on. THE floor i, YOU
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: know i just it's insane. To me it's insane, to
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Me but I'M sure i will continue to be frustrated.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: By it but, come, ON man, nba, officials yo can
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: we can we can WE just i don't Even need
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: cat to get like any sort of, Preferential treatment just
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: call a call for him the same way as you do.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: Everybody else, i'm sorry but if you've watched this guy
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: for the last two years Of, the knicks does he
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: do some stupid shit sometimes to get an offensive foul
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: or even a? Defensive, foul YES but i mean the
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: whistle does not seem like there's any type of fairness
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: or comparing it to, any other, you know Big time
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: all star. Type player it's just hard to understand how
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: this guy consistently seems to get the short end of.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: The stick but hopefully next year. It, changes.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see uh see how it GOES.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: ON nba, I mean nba officiating is the most Inconsistent
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: officiating i've ever seen.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: In sports it's a very tough game. To officiate it's,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: it's coming it's, you know it's it's a mile, a
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: minute it's coming, super fast and there's so much. Going
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: on but they could.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: Be.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Better absolutely it's.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: Very subjective that's.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: For sure there's a there's certain guys who gets certain
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: treatments of. Certain Things i've i've always, YOU know i
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: try not to use it, very much but We thought
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: steph does not get a very fair.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: Whistle, either, yeah yeah, You.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: DON'T steph i mean the amount Of abuse steph takes.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Off ball like the off. Ball, stuff, yeah, Yeah yeah
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: i'm with you. On that i'm with you. ON that
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: i Think when steph gets the ball in, his hands
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: he gets a pretty. Fair whistle, but uh he definitely
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: off ball sometimes is, you know getting grabbed. And everything,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: and also, to me it's not just about certain guys
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: not having a fair whistle or an. Unfair WHISTLE the
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: nba at one point they were. Calling everything it. Was
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: ridiculous then they obviously have tried to pull back on
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: that and make the game a little bit. MORE physical
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: i think some of the things that we're seeing in
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: the playoffs these last couple of years is. Too much it's.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: NOT basketball, i mean, you know a guy when he's
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: dribbling the ball down, the floor you shouldn't be able
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: to put two hands on, his chest or when he's
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: setting up to run around, the screen you shouldn't be
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: able to. HUG him i mean it's happening right there
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: in front of the referees and nobody, calls it and,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: you Know. The knicks typically they're a team that they just,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: you know they, play physical but they're not like going
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: out of their way to like. Be dirty and at
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: certain points you looked at it and you, were, like
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: guys you got to step up and raise your level
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: of physicality and maybe go slightly over the what you
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: consider to be the line because this other team is
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: doing it and they're not, calling it so we have to.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: MATCH that i just don't think that's what the. GAME
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: is i think there's a happy medium between when, You
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: know harden was able to jump back into you and
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: get a foul in this current Time Where stefan castle
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: can grab your jersey all the way up the floor
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: and it's not. A, FOUL.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah i WOULD say, i remember like, you know in
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: like late, twenty tens like twenty SEVENTEEN Eight mvp harden
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: he literally just going down the floor and go completely
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: out of his way and kind of just bump into
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: you when you're not even aying to do the play
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: and just get.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: A call and they kind of realized it. Was flawed
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: and there's still.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Like some flawed you know stuff, With that LIKE there's
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: i think it's good that they've changed the uh the
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: rule on it's got to be a natural. Shooting motion
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: if you get a guy in, the air you can't
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: kick your leg out to get.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: A call or, you know it can be overturned to an.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: Offensive foul there are some, good things but it could
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: still be very. MUCH improved i.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Thought that was one of, the things other than, an
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: injury that Led to, okac's demise is that they all
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: of a sudden stopped GIVING those i just fall down
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: to the ground Fouls.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: To, shay yeah, you know when you're playing at fouled all.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: The time, you know YOU and i have talked. About
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: it you gotta play a scorer playing at Foul right
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: eventually he catches, up.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Yep YEP and i thought that was one of the
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: biggest Changes That cat's cat made other than his his,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: you know his his increased focus on the, defensive end
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Was That Karl anthony towns decided to just play to
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: try and score and not get. A CALL and i
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: thought he started getting more calls because, of that and
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: he had more times where he either got the bucket
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: or he didn't end up on, the ground, you know
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: looking and screaming for a call as the other team
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: was running the. Other way you got to make adjustments in.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: This LEAGUE and i, you know one of the things
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: that drove me Nuts about cat IS that i feel
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: like he didn't initially make the adjustment to the way
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: that the league was being called more. Fit physical in,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: the playoffs it seemed like it's it just finally clicked,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: for him and, you know we saw. The results, all
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: right THAT'S all. I, Got bomb you got anything else?
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: For?
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Me?
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: AH yes a little bit of a late potential free agent.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: News here looks Like the lakers are expected To sign
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: sondro Mamel college vili From, the raptors as well as
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: The Aforementioned. Quinton, grimes okay while still trying to Get
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: Either walk Kessel Or.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: JALEN durt I like grimes on. That team you know,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: you wanna, you wanna you want To surround luca with
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: as much shooting. As possible you need to have, like
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: that that pick and roll lob threat, for HIM which
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: i Think Obviously jayalen durn would be. Perfect For but
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: grimes is a guy who defends you need Defenders around luca.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: As well grimes defends he can hit an. Open, three
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: uh he needs to work on his handle and his
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: ability to take guys off. THE dribble i like that For,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: THE lakers. I do? I do you know as far
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: as the Guy at toronto Whose name i'm not going
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: to try, to say, you know serviceable, big man you
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: know somebody who can uh be, you know maybe a
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: rotation player, For them i'm.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Not, sure hey you, know what Shout out jersey though
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: straight Out Of.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Seaton hall there, you go there. You go, Yeah man, well,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: listen man if you're, with us we. Appreciate you. Uh
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: definitely if you're watching on, the, replay gang make some
• 1:27:15
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• 1:27:19
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• 1:27:25
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• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: know being my eyes and ears in the background and
• 1:27:31
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