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UK Column News Podcast 13th November 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon.
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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the thirteenth of November twenty twenty four, just
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Speaker 2: after one o'clock. Welcome to the UK column News. I'm
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Speaker 2: your host Mike Robinson joining me today. We have Vanessa
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Speaker 2: Billy from Damascus as usual, and Charles Mallett who's still
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Speaker 2: in Hong Kong. Welcome to the program both and Charles.
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Speaker 2: We're going to get started off with farming and be
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Speaker 2: talking about the upcoming well can we call them protests
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Speaker 2: next week? But what have you got?
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Speaker 1: Thanks Mike, Good afternoon, Good afternoon. All.
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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, farming and the recurring themes of funding and
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Speaker 3: food security. But we'll start with a clip from gb
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Speaker 3: News recently, which have been doing the rounds on social media.
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Speaker 3: Patrick christis interviewing somebody called John McTurnan, and we'll hear
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Speaker 3: what he says that has caused quite so much outrage.
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Speaker 4: Personally in favor of doing too. We want to go
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Speaker 4: on the streets. We can do to them what Margaret
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Speaker 4: Thatcher did to the miners.
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Speaker 5: So just to be clear, Johnny, you would what beat
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Speaker 5: them up?
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Speaker 4: No, close, there's an industry we could do with that.
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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, so this got weird, so you would
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Speaker 5: do due to farmers what Margaret Thatcher did to miners,
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Speaker 5: which was and you know she very heavy handed police tactics,
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Speaker 5: followed by what putting them out of business?
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Speaker 4: If people, if people, if if people are so upset
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Speaker 4: that they want to go on the streets of spray
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Speaker 4: slurry on them, then we don't need the small farmers.
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Speaker 3: Now, before we examine what it is that he said,
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Speaker 3: let's just look at who John Turnman is, and the
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Speaker 3: Institute for Government page here describes him as a senior
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Speaker 3: Fellow with extensive experience in government advising prime ministers around
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Speaker 3: the world. He was only Blairs Director of Political Operations.
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Speaker 3: Now that should give people a clue as to why
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Speaker 3: he said what he did say. And of course I
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Speaker 3: think the point to be made here is that within
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Speaker 3: the context that he speaks, he is absolutely right. On
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Speaker 3: screen now is a diagram showing all the major players
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Speaker 3: in the food industry in the United Kingdom, and the
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Speaker 3: only reason that they are able to do what they
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Speaker 3: do is because we continue to buy this stuff. So
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Speaker 3: people who are up in arms or opposing the globalist
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Speaker 3: agenda need to consider this aspect of it, probably in
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Speaker 3: slightly more detail. Before the comments of people like John
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Speaker 3: mcturnand can be rejected. Of course, the point he makes
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Speaker 3: is that small farms are indeed entirely dispensable because there
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Speaker 3: are bigger players there who will conform to the model
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Speaker 3: that suits not just their industry, but also the government
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Speaker 3: that is deciding whether or not to work with them.
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Speaker 3: And for people still to be laboring under the misapprehension
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Speaker 3: that the government is there to support small farms, I
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Speaker 3: think need to think again. Now, just by way of
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Speaker 3: a case study, we'll just look at Cargill, one of
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Speaker 3: the big players, well actually worldwide, but really an American
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Speaker 3: food business, and I've highlighted the word successful there. They
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Speaker 3: make no mention of the fact that it would be
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Speaker 3: beneficial if the food that was produced was healthy for
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Speaker 3: people but also for the environment. And just by to
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Speaker 3: sort of reinforce that point, the ingredients that they provide
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Speaker 3: the other food producers that they talk about proteins based
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Speaker 3: on wheat and corns, not actually wheaken corn and therefore
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Speaker 3: not actually food.
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Speaker 1: As to the type.
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Speaker 3: Of player that we're dealing with, we go to world
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Speaker 3: grain dot Com, who report in twenty twenty three that
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Speaker 3: they were turning over one hundred and seventy seven billion dollars,
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Speaker 3: which is almost equivalent to the budget the entire year's
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Speaker 3: worth budget for the National Health Service that went down
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Speaker 3: for the current fiscal year to about one hundred and
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Speaker 3: sixty billion. But the point here, or at least the
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Speaker 3: question to ask, is why on Earth, given those statistics,
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Speaker 3: would government be paying attention to small farmers rather than
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Speaker 3: these big industry players with their absolutely enormous lobbying capability.
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Speaker 3: So to consider this in light of what's happened on
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Speaker 3: the other side of the Atlantic, there's been much speculation
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Speaker 3: about whether or not there's going to be any kind
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Speaker 3: of pushback against these big corporate players, and we look
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Speaker 3: at the words of Congressman Thomas Massey, who has been
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Speaker 3: touted as perhaps the secuy of State for Agriculture in
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Speaker 3: the United States. He sent out a tweet in which
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Speaker 3: he says, I stand ready and willing to help the
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Speaker 3: President with any part of his bold agenda to focus
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Speaker 3: on the health and well being of Americans, but I
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Speaker 3: have received no commitments or offers from President Trump's team,
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Speaker 3: and any discussion of the transition are premature.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 1: The reason I.
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Speaker 3: Pulled Thomas ma See into this is because he has
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Speaker 3: been going to something called the Road Food Conference for
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Speaker 3: many years. He's tweeted about it here and he says
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Speaker 3: today I'm coming out of the pantry. Be it Joel
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Speaker 3: Salatin's farm in sp Virginia on May seventeenth and eighteenth.
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Speaker 1: That was this year.
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Speaker 3: And Joel Salatin, to those of you who follow the
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Speaker 3: UK column interviews, to somebody that I spoke to a
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Speaker 3: couple of months ago here with an interview called let
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Speaker 3: the Animals do the Work. And Salatin's philosophy is one
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Speaker 3: in which effectively the sort of the four tenets are
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Speaker 3: all addressed with the same model, in that farming can
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Speaker 3: work well for the business, or at least that farming
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Speaker 3: can work as a profitable business, it can work for
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Speaker 3: the community, and it can provide healthy and nutritious food
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Speaker 3: for the consumer but also benefit the environment. And this
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Speaker 3: is not something that governments typically are choosing to embrace
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Speaker 3: sprite sorry, despite the protestations that they are going down
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Speaker 3: the regenerative agriculture route. Now all of these will be
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Speaker 3: in the show notes, but in addition to the Salatin interview,
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Speaker 3: there is a range of others from the UK column
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Speaker 3: Stable which indicates exactly how well this can be done.
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Speaker 3: We've got John Cook here talking about his raw milk
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Speaker 3: business dealing directly with the consumer, Angus Macintosh in South
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Speaker 3: Africa doing effectively the same thing whilst regenerating the landscape,
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Speaker 3: as well as Sir Julian Rose, who effectively pioneered many
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Speaker 3: years ago the early organic movement whilst it was still
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Speaker 3: being done effectively in a sort of legitimate sense. And
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Speaker 3: then more recently Mark Byford, a Suffolk farmer who again
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Speaker 3: deals directly with the consumer and arranges his business so
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Speaker 3: that he has a direct relationship with the community. But
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Speaker 3: of course this is not what John McTurnan is talking about,
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Speaker 3: and it speaks volumes that he was quite so closely
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Speaker 3: involved with Tony Blair then, and indeed the philosophy not
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Speaker 3: just a Blair but all those who have been with
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Speaker 3: in his orbit over these years now as my reference
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Speaker 3: at the beginning, there have been rumblings in the United
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Speaker 3: Kingdom across the farming community over the course of twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty four, which of course has been a very difficult
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Speaker 3: year for farmers, not just because of the weather, but
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Speaker 3: also because of the changing nature of the environmental land
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Speaker 3: management schemes. The government has started and then changed and
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Speaker 3: left a great deal of uncertainty. As Julian Rose says,
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Speaker 3: subsidy creates slaves. Nonetheless, there are a couple of events
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Speaker 3: planned for next Tuesday, the nineteenth of November, in London,
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Speaker 3: so we'll just have a quick look at what those
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Speaker 3: are and hope to resolve some of the confusion that
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Speaker 3: may have arisen. We've got the National Farmers' Union describing
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Speaker 3: what is called a mass lobby event which requires prior
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Speaker 3: contact with your MP if.
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Speaker 1: You are a farmer or a grower, and this.
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Speaker 3: Has been orchestrated by the n of you to meet
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Speaker 3: with their MPs in Parliament and as they say here,
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Speaker 3: urging them to offer the Chancellor to reconsider the changes
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Speaker 3: to inheritance tax. Of course I spoke about this last week,
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Speaker 3: the changes to the agricultural property relief, and a point
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Speaker 3: worth making here is that the business property relief was
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Speaker 3: rather sort of left out because there was so much
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Speaker 3: focus on farmers, but of course this does affect people
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Speaker 3: who run businesses as well, and with so little time
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Speaker 3: to prepare, of course, it is possible to mitigate against
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Speaker 3: this with the seven year rule, but because this is
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Speaker 3: due to stake effect in twenty twenty six, there is
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Speaker 3: in effect a point beyond which farmers are left powerless
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Speaker 3: to avoid or at least not in ker attacks that
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Speaker 3: was previously not there in their path. So, as I said,
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Speaker 3: there's a farmer, there's a mass lobby in London on
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Speaker 3: Tuesday the nineteenth, as well as that there's due to
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Speaker 3: be a rally. Now the organizers of each event insist
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Speaker 3: that there's to be effectively sort of cooperation between the two,
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Speaker 3: and that if you are going to the mass lobby
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Speaker 3: event you can also turn up to the rally. You
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Speaker 3: do need to register to do that, And this seems
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Speaker 3: to be because the Metropolitan Police have either given the
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Speaker 3: organizers the impression or the organizers have sort of effectively
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Speaker 3: deduced that there are anti terror considerations here that they
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Speaker 3: need to address. So those are the two events that
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Speaker 3: you can consider going to and supporting. But ultimately I
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Speaker 3: think the message here is really one of trust and
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Speaker 3: why on earth should small farmers trust the government? What
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Speaker 3: is it that they really do expect the government to
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Speaker 3: do given their track record.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, thank you Charles for that, Thank you very much.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk much more about that in extra Now let's
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Speaker 2: come on to military affairs and defense and so on.
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Speaker 2: But I want to put this on screen first of all,
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Speaker 2: because of course the UK column has been talking about
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Speaker 2: European Defense Union for a number of years, and as
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Speaker 2: we'll see in a minute, the election of Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: has reinvigorated this whole discussion. Now it's a topic which
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Speaker 2: hasn't really managed to gain engagement widely, and certainly people
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Speaker 2: within our audience are have been interested in it, but
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Speaker 2: it hasn't got much wider engagement because one of the
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Speaker 2: reasons is it has got absolutely zero coverage in the
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Speaker 2: mainstream press. But it should motivate us because as we
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Speaker 2: can see here on screen, Britain is one hundred percent
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Speaker 2: or has been up to this point one hundred percent
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Speaker 2: engaged with it, even in twenty seventeen or so, wearing
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Speaker 2: the EU flag on their arms, no Union flags as
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Speaker 2: as far as I can see on the uniforms here.
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Speaker 2: So the question is, you know, why would this be
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Speaker 2: something that we need to be worried about. Well, if
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Speaker 2: we consider who would be in charge of an EU
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Speaker 2: military and ask ourselves the question, do we want this
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Speaker 2: woman to be holding the keys to French nuclear deterrents?
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Speaker 2: For example, because that's really what we're looking at here,
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Speaker 2: and I say the British government one hundred percent behind this,
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Speaker 2: as we will see in a minute. Now, over the years,
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Speaker 2: with the full complicity of NATO, there has been an
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Speaker 2: effort to drive forward this European Defense Union project. It
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Speaker 2: has not gained a huge amount of traction because there's
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Speaker 2: lots of friction against this because of course national governments,
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Speaker 2: member states, even member states that are of a supernational
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Speaker 2: organization like the EU, are reluctant to seed control over
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Speaker 2: their own militaries. That was until Trump came along. And
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Speaker 2: this was twenty seventeen when Trump was president and was
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Speaker 2: opening the new NATO headquarters in Brussels, and there is
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Speaker 2: with Jen Stolberg standing beside a large chunk of the
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Speaker 2: World Trade Center. Now, as I say, Britain was and
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Speaker 2: still is one hundred percent supportive of this initiative. And
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Speaker 2: as because of Trump's sort of aggressive attitude towards the
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Speaker 2: Europeans with respect to the funding of NATO and funding
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Speaker 2: of defense in Europe, in twenty seventeen, Russie and a
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Speaker 2: bunch of other think tanks, defense think tanks pushed forward
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Speaker 2: to try to gain some momentum on this European defense
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Speaker 2: thing here. So this was March twenty nineteen, Jeremy Wimble
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Speaker 2: from RUSSIE saying in March twenty nineteen RUSSIE and the
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Speaker 2: Friedrich Eberts Stiftung brought together leading UK and German parliamentarians
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Speaker 2: and leading security and defense experts. The subject of a
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Speaker 2: European army disdominated most of the discussion, with the goal
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Speaker 2: of achieving strategic autonomy for Europe. European states should seek
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Speaker 2: to form a joint command structure that would allow the
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Speaker 2: EU to deploy forces both within and beyond Europe's borders.
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Speaker 2: It was strongly suggested that the US can no longer
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Speaker 2: be regarded as a reliable partner and that Europe ought
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Speaker 2: to take responsibility for its own defense mechanisms. And of course,
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Speaker 2: once Biden became president, legitimately or not, a lot of
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Speaker 2: the momentum fell out of this. That has changed again,
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Speaker 2: but just to keep on the thread here. Also into
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Speaker 2: t nineteen, the European Council of the European Union published
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Speaker 2: this document from the European External Action Services the European
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Speaker 2: Foreign Service effectively, and the subject was EU concept for
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Speaker 2: Military Command and Control. This is the document, and this
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Speaker 2: is basically a couple of excerpts from it. So the
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Speaker 2: EU led military operational chain of command is based on
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Speaker 2: vertical top to bottom responsibility. So we should not forget
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Speaker 2: that urshela vonder Len, being at the top, would be
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Speaker 2: in charge of this. This implies that each level of
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Speaker 2: command is responsible for establishing the necessary links to the
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Speaker 2: immediate subordinate level. A single, identifiable and clear military chain
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Speaker 2: of command is imperative the exact command and control arrangements
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Speaker 2: for any EU led military CSDP, that is, the defense
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Speaker 2: policy in the EU. Operations and missions are mission dependent.
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Speaker 2: The chain of command for EU led military CSDP operations
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Speaker 2: and missions will encompass three levels of and below the
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Speaker 2: political strategic level, so we should not ignore the fact
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Speaker 2: that the political strategic level is at the top. Now,
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Speaker 2: when Ursula was attempting to get her role as President
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Speaker 2: of the European Commission for the first term, she made
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Speaker 2: this statement.
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Speaker 7: Now, I'm going to jump right forward now to the
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Speaker 7: present day, and I'd like to talk about four different
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Speaker 7: components which we introduced back then, which I believe are
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Speaker 7: the important structural elements for setting up a European Defense Union.
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Speaker 7: First of all, just two three weeks ago we were
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Speaker 7: able to for the first time, we were able to
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Speaker 7: give the red light for a European commando command capacity
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Speaker 7: in Brussels. That's so the first time that civille and
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Speaker 7: literary instruments would actually be commanded together and where these
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Speaker 7: commands would actually come from one single central command office.
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Speaker 7: That's essential step forward. It was unthinkable a short while ago,
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Speaker 7: but as precisely the right approach to have if we
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Speaker 7: want a European flavor to our defense policy.
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Speaker 2: So we need to ask ourselves again, do we really
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Speaker 2: want this lily in charge of European defense and Britain
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Speaker 2: involved in that. As you will see in one second,
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Speaker 2: now Trump has been elected, the momentum is back, and
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Speaker 2: Andreas Cabilius has been made the new EU Commissioner for
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Speaker 2: Defense and Space. So effectively, the EU all of a
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Speaker 2: sudden now has a defense what they call a Defense
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Speaker 2: department defense secretary effectively, and now he is the former
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Speaker 2: head of her former Prime minister Lithuania. He served as
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Speaker 2: that from nineteen ninety nine to two thousand and then
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Speaker 2: from two thousand and eight to twenty twelve. He's described
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Speaker 2: as a political heavywight. Its political background is described as
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Speaker 2: being shipped by global crises and by the presence on
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Speaker 2: the border of a hostile Russia. So we see exactly
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Speaker 2: what he represents and so on. But as I say,
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Speaker 2: Britain one hundred percent behind this. Starmer headed over to
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Speaker 2: Paris for the Remembrance Day the day after Rememberance Day
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Speaker 2: for more commemorations and this was absolutely part of the
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Speaker 2: discussions there. It was very interesting that the British readout
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Speaker 2: on this didn't mention defense. Have just put that back
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Speaker 2: on screen for a second because but the French readout
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Speaker 2: on this did so. The French said that during the meeting,
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Speaker 2: the two leaders discussed the major international issues following on
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Speaker 2: from the messages conveyed at the European Political Community Summit
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Speaker 2: in Hungary, President background stress and need to assert Europeans
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Speaker 2: own interests and capabilities in terms of security and defense.
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Speaker 2: This wasn't in the UK read out, So again we're
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Speaker 2: back in this situation as far as the UK is concerned.
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Speaker 2: They don't want to mention this publicly and they don't
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Speaker 2: want to it certainly isn't going to get any major
17:16
Speaker 2: UK media coverage now having said that, it has had
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Speaker 2: some and so the Telegraph here starting to make noises
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Speaker 2: in promotion of this idea the hard choices on defense
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Speaker 2: lie before US. And then they were also saying that
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Speaker 2: Macron and Schultz call for EU to unite on defense
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Speaker 2: after Trump victory. But it doesn't end there because actually
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Speaker 2: we can't remember whether we covered this on the UK
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Speaker 2: column or not, but RUSSI back in July talking asking
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Speaker 2: what can the new governments proposed UK EU security packed achieve?
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Speaker 2: And for example, just to take one quote from this article,
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Speaker 2: they say Foreign Secretary David Lammy has designated the EUS
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Speaker 2: is his number one foreign policy priority, including structured foreign
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Speaker 2: policy dialogues that could lead to an ambitious UK EU
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Speaker 2: security packed and when they talk about security, they also
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Speaker 2: include defense. So Charles, I'll be interested in your thoughts
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Speaker 2: on this because particularly the wearing of EU badges on
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Speaker 2: British armed military uniforms. I appreciate that was the year
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Speaker 2: before the Brexit referendum, but nonetheless, the UK has been
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent behind this common security and defense defense
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Speaker 2: policy from the beginning and continues to be and now
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Speaker 2: they want a pack to security and defense packed with
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Speaker 2: the EU. And what we've got to keep in mind
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Speaker 2: of course, if we consider NATO as being whatever number
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Speaker 2: of countries, it is at the moment that NATO would
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Speaker 2: effectively become the United States, Canada, Britain, the EU and
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Speaker 2: all those other member states effectively disappear from NATO under
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Speaker 2: those circumstances.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's really what I was of considering, is that
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Speaker 3: the layers. I mean, we've talked about the layers of
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Speaker 3: bureaucracy or what they're calling command and control, sort of
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Speaker 3: hierarchical structure. But really I think one of the questions is, well,
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Speaker 3: what does happen to NATO.
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Speaker 1: Specifically with regard to the United Kingdom.
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Speaker 3: And as you say, that was some time ago, but yes,
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Speaker 3: the wearing of the EU flag does seem extraordinarily strange.
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Speaker 3: But then, of course, I suppose we consider something that
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Speaker 3: I was reporting on a little while ago, which was
19:30
Speaker 3: the Rules of Engagement in the Doctrine surrounding at John
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Speaker 3: Services Publication three nine eight, which course is very clear
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Speaker 3: to describe the rules of engagement as in effect being
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Speaker 3: the translation of the political will. So to see, as
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Speaker 3: much as we might not like it, I sort of
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Speaker 3: wonder and speaking as she is, in effect, it's no
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Speaker 3: different from what we see.
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Speaker 1: At the national level.
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Speaker 3: I think the huge amount of confusion, though, is to
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Speaker 3: suggest that under the same structure, or at least side
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Speaker 3: by side, a civil military arrangement could be made sort
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Speaker 3: of seamlessly, and that there would be as far as
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Speaker 3: she seems to describe it, no one lead that there
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Speaker 3: would be balance or parity between the civil and the military,
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Speaker 3: which seems extraordinarily complicated and very hard to practice, but
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Speaker 3: ultimately something that I think the United Kingdom should stay
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Speaker 3: well out of. But of course that doesn't seem to
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Speaker 3: be the direction that we're heading in.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, we will talk more about this letter as well. Vanessa.
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Speaker 2: Let me welcome you to the program, and of course
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Speaker 2: questions over who Donald Trump is going to choose in
20:37
Speaker 2: his administration and what effect that is going to have
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Speaker 2: on Middle East policy.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, not so many questions if we look at the
20:48
Speaker 8: names that are being touted through mainstream media in the US.
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Speaker 9: Of course, those may change.
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Speaker 8: I'm not saying they're written in stone, but it is
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Speaker 8: looking very much as if he's heading towards as Zionist
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Speaker 8: heavy and Christian Zionist heavy administration. Now since Trump's election,
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Speaker 8: Israel has grown in its boldness in conducting genocide in Gaza.
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Speaker 8: Blaze Smatch, who's the Finance Minister, tells authorities to prepare
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Speaker 8: for the West Bake annexation, saying that now that Trump
21:22
Speaker 8: is elected, they feel that they can go forward this.
21:26
Speaker 8: The intensity of bombing in Lubanon has increased exponentially since Trump's.
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Speaker 9: Election, so it's very.
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Speaker 8: Clear that the Zionists feel emboldened by his election.
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Speaker 9: So I want to focus a little bit on the Syria.
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Speaker 8: And this was interview with Robert Kennedy Junior not so
21:53
Speaker 8: long ago with Tucker Carlson, and I just want to
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Speaker 8: he'sa Trump and he's a policy so let's to them.
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Speaker 10: Well, when I was on the plane the other day
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Speaker 10: with President Trump, we were talking about the Mid East
22:09
Speaker 10: and he took a piece of paper and he drew
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Speaker 10: on it map of the Midiest with all the nations
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Speaker 10: on it, which most Americans couldn't do, no, and he
22:19
Speaker 10: wrote in each country the troops ranks. And he was
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Speaker 10: particularly looking at the border between Syria and Turkey, and
22:27
Speaker 10: he said, we have five hundred men on the border
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Speaker 10: of Syria and Turkey and a little you know, encampment
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Speaker 10: that was bombed and he said there's seven hundred and
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Speaker 10: fifty thousand troops in Turkey, there's two hundred and fifty
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Speaker 10: thousand in Syria. If they go up against each other,
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Speaker 10: we're in the middle and what And he said to
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Speaker 10: his generals, what's gonna happen to those five hundred men?
22:47
Speaker 10: And as general said to him, they're going to be
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Speaker 10: cannon fodder. And he said, get them out. So we
22:53
Speaker 10: want a president who has that knowledge, yeah, and ask
22:57
Speaker 10: those rational questions and then it's going to make good
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Speaker 10: decision in the Americans.
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Speaker 1: Five.
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Speaker 8: Now, there are twenty eight US military bases in the northeast,
23:10
Speaker 8: so Kennedy was slightly downplaying the nine hundred US military forces,
23:15
Speaker 8: but a number of private contractors, in fact, more than
23:19
Speaker 8: one thousand private contractors like Dynekore. So this is Kevin
23:23
Speaker 8: Costola on X journalist who came up with Trump will
23:28
Speaker 8: reportedly name Senator Marco Rubio as his secretary of State
23:32
Speaker 8: on Tocker Carson to show jd Vance that Trump won't hire.
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Speaker 9: Neokrons that refused to withdraw US troops from Syria.
23:39
Speaker 11: But Rubio obviously I absolutely.
23:42
Speaker 8: Opposed Trump's withdrawal plan and is a Neokon warhawk like
23:46
Speaker 8: Liz Cheney, and he goes on in the thread that
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Speaker 8: he put on X so if we just moved to
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Speaker 8: the next slide, so he talks about Walts, who also
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Speaker 8: pos Trump's plan to withdraw US troops from Syria, calling
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Speaker 8: the plan a Pandora's box for the return of Isis. Isis,
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Speaker 8: of course, is a US proxy in Syria, and Wilts
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Speaker 8: co sponsored legislation with none another than fellow warhawk list
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Speaker 8: Cheney to help continue the US military's role in Syria
24:17
Speaker 8: in defiance of Trump, and reportedly Trump plans to name
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Speaker 8: Republican Mike Waltz's national security advisor. He's a neocon warhawk
24:26
Speaker 8: who was part of the Foundation for Defensive Democracies, John
24:30
Speaker 8: Bolton's think tank.
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Speaker 11: And then so how I'm looking at how this is
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Speaker 11: playing out at.
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Speaker 8: The moment, I believe, if we go on to the
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Speaker 8: next slide, we're looking at basically the Trump administration offering
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Speaker 8: a carrot to President Asad saying, if you behave, we
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Speaker 8: might withdraw our troops from inside Syria. And at the
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Speaker 8: same time Israel is producing the stick. So I mentioned
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Speaker 8: two weeks ago Minister Gideon sar the message that is
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Speaker 8: should convey to the Aside regime in Syria that he
25:02
Speaker 8: should drop Iran and Hezbolla, and more recently, in a
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Speaker 8: report that was picked up by a number of local media,
25:09
Speaker 8: in this case, if we just move on to the
25:12
Speaker 8: Islamic Republic news agencies, Zionist regime threatens to assassinate a sad.
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Speaker 9: So what were they actually talking about?
25:20
Speaker 8: According to Palestinian media, Israel Hayom newspaper quoted regime officials
25:25
Speaker 8: as saying that Asad was informed that if he did
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Speaker 8: not cooperate with Israel in preventing the transfer of weapons
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Speaker 8: from Syria to Lebanon, he will suffer the same fate
25:35
Speaker 8: of Sayadhasan Nosrolla. Prime Minister Benjamin Nataniahu, while at the
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Speaker 8: UN in New York, had ordered the assassination of Nasrolla,
25:43
Speaker 8: who was martyred in an Israeli astrike on Beirut. And
25:48
Speaker 8: Avigdor Lieberman also issued a similar warning to President Tsad,
25:53
Speaker 8: all of them pushing him to drop Iran and Hezbolla.
25:57
Speaker 8: And of course is a sad Trump now coming in
25:59
Speaker 8: with potential. The characters say, if you do this, you comply,
26:03
Speaker 8: we might withdraw our troops from inside Syria, And then
26:07
Speaker 8: various other titles in media Israel squeeze on his Blah
26:12
Speaker 8: puts pressure on Syria's Asad to pivot away from Iran.
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Speaker 9: This was after an Astrola's assassination.
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Speaker 8: Israeli media has been pushing the line that there is
26:23
Speaker 8: division between President Asad and.
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Speaker 9: His brother Mahael, a Sad, Iran's man.
26:29
Speaker 8: In Damascus, and there was actually a drone strike on
26:32
Speaker 8: what was considered to be a villa very much connected
26:36
Speaker 8: to Mahoel, as said back in late September.
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Speaker 11: And of course we have to remember that while.
26:42
Speaker 8: He initially denied that he wanted to have Trump killed,
26:46
Speaker 8: I think it was in twenty nineteen in an interview
26:49
Speaker 8: he admitted that he had wanted to assassinate. It a
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Speaker 8: sad So this is Trump making that admission to Fox.
26:56
Speaker 12: News you take against Solomoni is true that after a
27:00
Speaker 12: side gas children for the second time, that it was
27:03
Speaker 12: you the one that take out a side, that you
27:05
Speaker 12: had a good side on him, and there was General
27:07
Speaker 12: Matis who talked to you out of it. And if
27:09
Speaker 12: it is true, do you regret not taking him out
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Speaker 12: being that he's not because he is a mass murderer.
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Speaker 6: I would have rather taken him out. I had a
27:18
Speaker 6: well set Matis didn't want to do it. Mattis was
27:20
Speaker 6: a highly overrated general and I let him go. He
27:24
Speaker 6: worked for Obama, he got fired by Obama.
27:29
Speaker 8: And in addition, of course, the US has been building
27:33
Speaker 8: its air force capability in kata in Rain for some time,
27:38
Speaker 8: and most recently, in addition to deploying dozens of fighter
27:41
Speaker 8: jets from various types and six B fifty two strategic
27:45
Speaker 8: bombers in the Middle East region, the US Air Force
27:48
Speaker 8: has deployed F fifteen A Strike Eagles from the four
27:52
Speaker 8: hundred and ninety second Fighter Squadron RAF Lake.
27:56
Speaker 9: And Ethan, England in the Middle East. So are we.
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Speaker 8: Seeing the UK getting involved as we've been talking about.
28:04
Speaker 8: And then, of course, so you have the carrot and
28:06
Speaker 8: the stick putting pressure on President as Sad to do
28:10
Speaker 8: as he's told. Then the chief of staff of the
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Speaker 8: Saudi Armed Forces has been in Iran for talks with officials.
28:17
Speaker 9: Saudi Arabia is often used as.
28:19
Speaker 8: A kind of negotiating instrument by Israel and the US.
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Speaker 11: What is President A. Sad's response to all of this?
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Speaker 8: I mean absolutely what his response was when they were
28:32
Speaker 8: trying to caught him prior to the regime joans War
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Speaker 8: that began in twenty eleven.
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Speaker 11: He appeared at the.
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Speaker 8: Special Extraordinary Summit of the Arab League to discuss the
28:44
Speaker 8: situation in Palestine. So what he says is what we
28:49
Speaker 8: need is decision to use the tools we possess to
28:52
Speaker 8: stop the Zionist massacres. And I'm just going to play
28:55
Speaker 8: a section of his speech.
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Speaker 13: Then who in Filophinia at teri Hia, Tabitha at Tamasukia,
29:08
Speaker 13: also Sha and Lugnani were Filosini and Algi well and
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Speaker 13: baladain one as you said that to me Sharaf Warama
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Speaker 13: Warupi Shujan lend Motel and Saha was your hi al
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Speaker 13: Mussana well, and I was your Mundu Sharik Mubasharnia. And
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Speaker 13: Mario ntly mean o my l firo home filium a
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Speaker 13: man Tematina from a model burner. And then the Carnadin
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Speaker 13: was Jima to m Tai.
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Speaker 8: So effectively, that was the beginning of the very strong
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Speaker 8: message from President Dessad, not only to the Arab League
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Speaker 8: summit where he berated them for bitually for literally having
30:18
Speaker 8: done nothing for one year, but he then continued without
30:22
Speaker 8: any direct action, we encourage the continuation of the genocide
30:26
Speaker 8: and become indirect partners in it, as we are not
30:29
Speaker 8: dealing with a state in the legal sense, but rather
30:32
Speaker 8: with an outlaw colonial entity. We are not dealing with
30:36
Speaker 8: people in the civilized sense, but rather with herds of
30:38
Speaker 8: settlers who are closer to barbarism than to humanity. He
30:43
Speaker 8: added that it is not correct to say that the
30:45
Speaker 8: problem is the current mindless extremist government and a people
30:50
Speaker 8: terrified of what happened on October the seventh of last year.
30:54
Speaker 8: They are all working with one ideological mind, a mind
30:58
Speaker 8: sick with bloodsheds, sick with the illusion of superiority, afflicted
31:02
Speaker 8: with schizophrenia, between hating Nazism allegedly and loving it as
31:07
Speaker 8: an organic part of themselves, is what he meant. So
31:11
Speaker 8: an incredibly powerful message from President is Sad as I said,
31:15
Speaker 8: not only in response to what is happening in Palestine
31:18
Speaker 8: and Lebanon, in support of the people of those two countries,
31:22
Speaker 8: but also a message to Israel that has been threatening
31:25
Speaker 8: his life, to the US that is trying to encourage
31:29
Speaker 8: him or incentivize him to comply with their agenda.
31:35
Speaker 9: It quite extraordinary times.
31:37
Speaker 2: In Syria right now, thank you, Vanessa. Just want to
31:41
Speaker 2: clarify one thing and that is that Arif leg and Heath,
31:44
Speaker 2: although it does have the RAF on the front, is
31:46
Speaker 2: effectively a US military base in the United Kingdom. So
31:49
Speaker 2: this is where we are going to be seeing. We're
31:52
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31:56
Speaker 2: soil and the not dis in future as part of
31:58
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Speaker 14: H I.
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Speaker 2: A little bit of news for you. US Congress is
33:05
Speaker 2: holding another UFO hearing this week. In fact, that's happening today.
33:09
Speaker 2: So this since I took the screenshot, has been updated.
33:12
Speaker 2: That congressional hearing will be happening today and just by coincidence,
33:18
Speaker 2: tomorrow at one pm, I will be speaking to Matt
33:21
Speaker 2: Ertt on the issue of the UFO agenda, how that's
33:25
Speaker 2: being used to drive global governance, the people that are
33:29
Speaker 2: behind it. He has been producing a fantastic documentary series
33:33
Speaker 2: on that. He's now at episode three and he's starting
33:37
Speaker 2: to look at MK Ultra Cia and the types of
33:41
Speaker 2: people that have been pushing the agenda through those programs.
33:45
Speaker 2: Let's just listen to a couple of minutes of it.
33:49
Speaker 14: So l Ron Hubbard was that in charge of the
33:51
Speaker 14: California UO Temple. Orientis that crowdlely led and el Ron
33:57
Speaker 14: Hubbard created a school of thought of religion called Scientology,
34:02
Speaker 14: a UFO cult and his students became very close to
34:06
Speaker 14: Jacques Valet within the Stanford Research Institute. They are the
34:09
Speaker 14: ones who also were very much working with the CIA,
34:12
Speaker 14: Ingo Swan and others at trying to utilize MK ultra
34:17
Speaker 14: techniques as you alluded to, silocybin, DMT, other forms of
34:22
Speaker 14: LSD research that were all developed by the military industrial
34:25
Speaker 14: Complex and British intelligence. They were all developed by these institutions,
34:29
Speaker 14: and then they were using them to create different forms
34:32
Speaker 14: of depatterning psychological trauma to help people tap into controlled
34:38
Speaker 14: schizophrenia that was believed to give people access to higher
34:42
Speaker 14: paranormal powers of telepathy, astral plane projection, pretty much everything.
34:48
Speaker 14: And that's what they were doing under Jacques Vallet's lead
34:53
Speaker 14: with this team at SRI in the seventies under what
34:57
Speaker 14: became the Stargate project. Is fed directly in to the
35:01
Speaker 14: Changing Images of Man operation with Willis Hartman and Willis Harmon.
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Speaker 1: By the way, his.
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Speaker 14: Assistant was the woman who wrote Age of the Aquarian Conspiracy,
35:13
Speaker 14: which was a direct take from HG. Wells's earlier Open
35:16
Speaker 14: Conspiracy directly, so this is what was all done to
35:20
Speaker 14: try to change the idea of what human beings thought.
35:22
Speaker 14: We were utilizing a variety of techniques of hypnosis, matters
35:28
Speaker 14: of union, and Freudian psychology. They bury in sociology a
35:34
Speaker 14: little mix of all of these things to then bring
35:37
Speaker 14: about a new age of sorcerers with a highly superstitious
35:40
Speaker 14: population that would perhaps believe that the religions that they
35:44
Speaker 14: thought they were a part of were actually the constructs
35:47
Speaker 14: of UFOs from or aliens from either other galaxies or
35:51
Speaker 14: maybe even other dimensions.
35:55
Speaker 2: So if you'd like to say a bit more of that,
35:58
Speaker 2: one PM tomorrow and the usual place, do encourage you
36:01
Speaker 2: to watch this extremely interesting conversation yesterday Brian was speaking
36:06
Speaker 2: to Justin Walker on the Treasury letter. If you want
36:10
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36:12
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36:15
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36:35
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Speaker 2: doing this, whether or not you agree with the idea
37:01
Speaker 2: of petitions. Charles, let's come back to you and what's
37:06
Speaker 2: been going on in Hong Kong.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Mike.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll wind the clock back a little bit to
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Speaker 3: May of this year to a story that captured much
37:16
Speaker 3: of the public attention in Hong Kong, but far less
37:18
Speaker 3: so in the United Kingdom, and I think it might
37:21
Speaker 3: be time to have another look at it. And it
37:23
Speaker 3: concerns the allegation at least of spying in the United
37:29
Speaker 3: Kingdom on people who had moved away from Hong Kong,
37:33
Speaker 3: ostensibly in response to legislation passed by the Chinese administration
37:37
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one. Sorry my apology is twenty twenty
37:41
Speaker 3: which meant that people could be pursued for all sorts
37:45
Speaker 3: of crimes, and in this particular instance, a lady called
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Speaker 3: Monica Kwong who was being effectively chased on claims of
37:53
Speaker 3: fraud or allegations of fraud and in the United Kingdom
37:58
Speaker 3: out of the Hong Kong Economic and Trade Office, a
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Speaker 3: three man team apparently was run to surveil her, one
38:06
Speaker 3: of whom was Matthew Trickett, who, after having been arrested
38:10
Speaker 3: and released on court bail by the Metropolitan Police, was
38:15
Speaker 3: found dead a few days later in a park in Maidenhead.
38:19
Speaker 3: As far as I'm aware, the cause of his death
38:22
Speaker 3: has not been released by Thames Valley Police. But nonetheless,
38:27
Speaker 3: what this brings out is a couple of things. First
38:30
Speaker 3: of all, from the Migration Observatory, very important in light
38:35
Speaker 3: of what's going on in the United Kingdom, is just
38:37
Speaker 3: a reminder really that in twenty twenty one the rules
38:39
Speaker 3: were changed by the British Government for British nationals overseas,
38:43
Speaker 3: which has paid the way for potentially up to five
38:46
Speaker 3: point four million people from Hong Kong being able to
38:49
Speaker 3: assume nationality in the United Kingdom and therefore.
38:53
Speaker 1: Move into the UK.
38:55
Speaker 3: And the other thing that we are able to look at,
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Speaker 3: which is what these men were under, is the National
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Speaker 3: Security Act twenty twenty three, which has received remarkably little
39:06
Speaker 3: coverage given its provisions, there's certainly not time to go
39:09
Speaker 3: into a huge amount of detail today given the time,
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Speaker 3: but nonetheless, the Foreign Influence Registration Scheme FRS is one
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Speaker 3: of the things that is worth looking at. On the
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Speaker 3: government's website, they ask how does it compare to the
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Speaker 3: National Security and Investment Act twenty twenty one, and effectively
39:25
Speaker 3: this is the British government of trying to cover all bases.
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Speaker 3: Where the twenty twenty one Act gives the government powers
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Speaker 3: national security, whereas FRS the registration scheme requires the registration
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Speaker 3: of particular activities or arrangement in order to strengthen the
39:44
Speaker 3: integrity of UK politics and institutions and protect the country
39:49
Speaker 3: from state threats. Yes, I did just say the integrity
39:53
Speaker 3: of UK politics And they go on to clarify and
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Speaker 3: this is the bit where it becomes sort of that,
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Speaker 3: foreign powers or entities to carry out activities in the UK,
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Speaker 3: and this effectively suggests that the remit of this legislation
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40:38
Speaker 3: and indeed the special powers that are granted by those
40:41
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40:47
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40:55
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41:13
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Speaker 2: that goes. So yeah, ward later war an extra perhaps, Vanessa,
42:16
Speaker 2: let's be bringing back on and you've just paid a
42:20
Speaker 2: visit to Bay Roots. You were talking about the bombing
42:23
Speaker 2: of Bay Route increasing. What did you see when you
42:26
Speaker 2: were there?
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Speaker 8: Well, I am first of all, I mean people can
42:31
Speaker 8: go to my subsiduct to read the full report. But basically,
42:37
Speaker 8: if we just have a look at the map where
42:39
Speaker 8: I just show, like how before the blue dotted line
42:43
Speaker 8: at the bottom there from Damascus to Beyroute is the
42:47
Speaker 8: old route through the border that Israel has now bombed
42:52
Speaker 8: several times, reducing much of the road to crators and rubble,
42:56
Speaker 8: although I've heard that the Syrians are now using golf
43:00
Speaker 8: cars to bring people from one side to the other
43:03
Speaker 8: in defiance of Israel's closure of the road. So now
43:07
Speaker 8: basically I had to go north from Damascus up to Homes,
43:12
Speaker 8: then to Tatoos on the eastern coast and where you
43:16
Speaker 8: can see the no entry signus where Israel has bombed
43:19
Speaker 8: the old western route.
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Speaker 9: From Homes to the border.
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Speaker 8: So in other words, you have to go further north
43:25
Speaker 8: and further west to come south, following the Tripoli kind
43:30
Speaker 8: of truon coastal road down to Pray Road. I'll just
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Speaker 8: show I mean, this is just a video showing the
43:35
Speaker 8: coastal route once you enter Lebanon from the Syrian side.
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Speaker 11: Really a pretty route and not particularly busy.
43:44
Speaker 9: It was busier on the way back. I gas with.
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Speaker 8: Food trucks and humanitarian aide trucks and refugee cars coming
43:54
Speaker 8: into Syria. Three hundred thousand children have entered Syria since
43:59
Speaker 8: Israel from and since it's all started bombing, And basically
44:03
Speaker 8: I didn't have much time because I was told I
44:07
Speaker 8: should get back to Syria as soon as possible in case.
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Speaker 9: Israel bomb again.
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Speaker 8: But I did manage to go to Dahir with some
44:15
Speaker 8: friends who were going to check out their house.
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Speaker 9: So this was just a couple of the videos that
44:20
Speaker 9: I managed to take of the devastation.
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Speaker 8: My friend actually said to me the apartment block that
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Speaker 8: was shown there was ten story. They were horrified by
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Speaker 8: the number of kind of familiar landmarks that they had
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Speaker 8: grown up with that had been destroyed or heavily damaged.
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Speaker 9: We saw from a distance the crater that had where
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Speaker 9: side in.
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Speaker 8: Astrolla had been assassinated. It was vast and incredibly deep,
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Speaker 8: and of course when we entered this area there was
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Speaker 8: Elebanon army checkpoint who told us that we shouldn't get
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Speaker 8: out of the car, we should work masks, and we
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Speaker 8: shouldn't open the windows.
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Speaker 9: Because of the possible risk of depleted.
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Speaker 11: Uranium dust from many of the strikes in this area.
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Speaker 8: And actually speaking to locals, they did tell me that
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Speaker 8: initially after Nasralla's assassination they had suffered with the ill
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Speaker 8: effects of the dust, so nausea, diarrhea, and bad stomachs.
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Speaker 8: They drank milk and after a few days the effects
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Speaker 8: went away, but.
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Speaker 9: The smell is pretty horrible.
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Speaker 8: And literally, I think the day after I left this
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Speaker 8: was just one of the bombing raids by the Israelis
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Speaker 8: on that area.
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Speaker 9: We can watch that, yah.
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Speaker 1: Yah lah.
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Speaker 8: If somebody asked me what the guy was saying when
46:04
Speaker 8: he's basically just saying, oh God, I'm not sure what
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Speaker 8: art is.
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Speaker 9: But even on my way back, there were three attacks
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Speaker 9: on Israel, sorry on.
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Speaker 8: Syria, one in homes, one in eastern southern Damascus, and
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Speaker 8: one on a Leppo. So even in those three days
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Speaker 8: that I was away, the attacks against Syria by Israel continued.
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Speaker 2: So thank you very much for that. Yes, we will
46:33
Speaker 2: obviously continue reporting as events progress. Now let's come back
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Speaker 2: to the UK. Now Political a while ago had this
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Speaker 2: article Tony Blair admits UK will need a little persuading
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Speaker 2: to embrace digital ID. So the question is then, what
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Speaker 2: kind of persuading do we need and what we get
46:54
Speaker 2: an idea of what kind of persuading this particular regime
46:57
Speaker 2: is going to continue to impose with this.
47:00
Speaker 14: You gave your.
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Speaker 2: Service, says the graphic. With digital veteran cards, you will
47:05
Speaker 2: get the government service you need quicker. So the veteran
47:09
Speaker 2: card is something that Charles has covered a couple of
47:13
Speaker 2: times and in fact we believe the last time he
47:15
Speaker 2: covered this he predicted or suggested that this was on
47:19
Speaker 2: its way. It has not happened and they decided to
47:21
Speaker 2: announce this on Remembrance Day. So The Veteran Card, they
47:26
Speaker 2: claim is currently used by two hundred and fifty thousand
47:28
Speaker 2: former service personnel across the country and a new digital
47:32
Speaker 2: version will make people make sure people can prove their
47:34
Speaker 2: veteran status as easily as possible. Convenience is always important.
47:39
Speaker 2: The Digital Veteran Card Digital Veteran Card planned to come
47:42
Speaker 2: in next year will speed up this process and mean
47:45
Speaker 2: they're able to access the support available to them more quickly.
47:48
Speaker 2: Harnessing the power of technology, it will be crucial to
47:52
Speaker 2: support the government in achieving its mission of making public
47:55
Speaker 2: services work for all working people, grow the economy and
47:59
Speaker 2: make everyone across the country better off. Specifically, the Digital
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Speaker 2: Veteran Card will help former forces personnel approach a military
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Speaker 2: charity to quickly prove their veteran status and speed up
48:09
Speaker 2: access to support they need. This includes housing support through
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Speaker 2: Operation Fortitude, health services through the NHS, or employment through
48:17
Speaker 2: job centers. It will also help veterans confirm their service
48:21
Speaker 2: to the Going Forward into Employment Scheme, which helps them
48:24
Speaker 2: join the Civil Service, NHS or work in justice. Additionally,
48:29
Speaker 2: veterans can use the card to apply for the Defense
48:32
Speaker 2: Discount Card offering hundreds of retail offers, and their Veteran
48:36
Speaker 2: Real Card getting a third off real travel from most journeys.
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Speaker 1: So this.
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Speaker 2: Is what Peter Kyle, Secretary had to say. Our veterans
48:45
Speaker 2: have sacrificed so much for this country and we must
48:47
Speaker 2: make every effort to ensure veterans get the help and
48:50
Speaker 2: support their entitled to. That's why we're working with the
48:53
Speaker 2: Offers for Veterans Affairs to speed up access to essential services,
48:56
Speaker 2: whether it's housing or employment support by offering our heroes
48:59
Speaker 2: Digit Veterans Cards which will be with them in a
49:02
Speaker 2: matter of minutes. So that is great, isn't it. In
49:06
Speaker 2: the meantime, the government has continuing to roll out the
49:10
Speaker 2: one Login system, which means that you can easily identify
49:14
Speaker 2: yourself to all kinds of government services, so faster, easier access,
49:18
Speaker 2: more convenience to fifty government services with one login. And
49:22
Speaker 2: in this case it's the Apprenticeship Service which is now
49:26
Speaker 2: fully transitioned into one platform and one log in, simplifying
49:32
Speaker 2: the way employers, apprentices and training providers interact with the government,
49:37
Speaker 2: making process more efficient and removing the need for numerous logins.
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Speaker 2: So that's good stuff. So the question is how has
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Speaker 2: this been covered in the press? Well, not much in
49:50
Speaker 2: the mainstream press, but sort of the House here saying
49:53
Speaker 2: with digital ID we can take back control. The time
49:56
Speaker 2: has come for government to fully embrace digital ID, to
49:59
Speaker 2: reform public services in part of the citizen and fuel
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Speaker 2: economic growth. And then here we have biometric update dot
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Speaker 2: Com saying UK did it and Digital ID Bill lauded
50:09
Speaker 2: ahead of parliamentary debate. And of course this I think
50:13
Speaker 2: is the key area of focus. We've got all this
50:16
Speaker 2: push towards digital identity, it's all being enabled by this
50:21
Speaker 2: piece of legislation, which, if we have to remember, is
50:23
Speaker 2: just a rehash of what the Tories were attempting to
50:25
Speaker 2: do just a few months ago but couldn't get it
50:28
Speaker 2: through before the general election. But the new name for
50:31
Speaker 2: it is the Digital Use and Access Bill. Now we've
50:34
Speaker 2: mentioned many times when it comes to digital ID, we're
50:37
Speaker 2: talking about having a digital wallet and inside that wallet
50:40
Speaker 2: you will have various attributes. It might be your name,
50:44
Speaker 2: it might be your date of birth, it might be
50:46
Speaker 2: your employment status, it might be your right to work
50:49
Speaker 2: in this country, and a whole host of other information
50:53
Speaker 2: held in your digital wallet. And of course third party
50:55
Speaker 2: companies will be there to provide this service, to act
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Speaker 2: as a trusted source of authority for your identity anytime
51:04
Speaker 2: you interact with government or with anybody else. But if
51:07
Speaker 2: we just put that back on screen for a second,
51:09
Speaker 2: we just need to look at a couple of the
51:11
Speaker 2: attributes of this bill. So creates a framework for digital
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Speaker 2: id that we've just spoken about that. But the other
51:20
Speaker 2: one that I want to really focus on here is
51:22
Speaker 2: the enabling easier data sharing. And I want to illustrate
51:27
Speaker 2: this just by looking at this article from The Atlantic,
51:30
Speaker 2: which is entitled genetic discrimination is coming for us all insurers.
51:35
Speaker 2: This is health insurers in the United States are refusing
51:37
Speaker 2: to cover Americans whose DNA reveals health risks. It's perfectly legal,
51:42
Speaker 2: and of course this type of situation is coming to
51:46
Speaker 2: the UK. It doesn't matter that we've got a national
51:48
Speaker 2: health service, it won't make any difference. This is coming
51:52
Speaker 2: to the UK now. Just looking at a couple of
51:54
Speaker 2: the quotes from this for decades, they say, researchers have
51:57
Speaker 2: feared that people might be targeted over their day, but
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Speaker 2: they weren't sure how often it was happening. Now, at
52:03
Speaker 2: least a handful of Americans are experiencing what they argue
52:06
Speaker 2: is a form of discrimination. It goes on to say
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Speaker 2: that even employers might soon be able to hire or
52:11
Speaker 2: far based on certain genetic risk factors. All of us
52:15
Speaker 2: have glitches somewhere in our genome. The article says, the
52:18
Speaker 2: question is who will take advantage of that information? And
52:21
Speaker 2: of course what they're talking about here in this case
52:23
Speaker 2: is health information and health insurance. In the United States,
52:27
Speaker 2: the insurance companies traditionally provide insurance in the basis that
52:31
Speaker 2: the risk is shared amongst all the people that buy
52:34
Speaker 2: a particular insurance policy. So some people will be high risk,
52:38
Speaker 2: people will be very low risk, and they set they
52:41
Speaker 2: do a risk assessment of that, and they set the
52:43
Speaker 2: premiums for people based on an average. Perhaps there's some
52:47
Speaker 2: scope for changing that depending on perceived risk and so on,
52:51
Speaker 2: but nonetheless it's not very specific. But this piece of
52:55
Speaker 2: legislation makes it very specific because it allows for exactly
52:59
Speaker 2: this type of thing, the sharing of genetic information, the
53:01
Speaker 2: sharing of all kinds of data, and the sharing of
53:04
Speaker 2: data across borders. So I'm going to say to everybody
53:08
Speaker 2: that if you're not actively involved in campaigning against this
53:11
Speaker 2: piece of legislation, you need to be actively involved. You
53:15
Speaker 2: might like to start with the hashtag scrap the app
53:18
Speaker 2: and getting involved in Debie's efforts to get people to
53:22
Speaker 2: not install the NHS app and other apps, and if
53:26
Speaker 2: you are using it, to get rid of it and
53:27
Speaker 2: to demand other ways to access services instead of this
53:31
Speaker 2: continual drive for digitization. But this piece of legislation needs
53:35
Speaker 2: to be stopped, and really everybody, I feel should be
53:39
Speaker 2: getting involved in that very very quickly. Charles, let me
53:44
Speaker 2: welcome you back and talk about COP sixteen and climate issues.
53:53
Speaker 3: Thanks min Yeah, and actually this segment follow yours Roden
53:56
Speaker 3: more closely than people might imagine. This refers to not
53:59
Speaker 3: COP TO but COP sixteen, which is somewhat confusing. But
54:03
Speaker 3: this conference of the parties, specifically with regard to biodiversity,
54:08
Speaker 3: and interestingly, coming from the literature, there's very little reference
54:14
Speaker 3: to climate, which suggests perhaps that it has been overused
54:19
Speaker 3: to an extent and that a more traditional approach concerning
54:23
Speaker 3: species decline maybe on the horizon.
54:25
Speaker 1: Nonetheless, they talk.
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Speaker 3: They say that attendees at the summit in Karli and Columbia,
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Speaker 3: which included Steve read the Environments, actually Nature Ministry, sorry,
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Speaker 3: Nature Minister Mary Career and Natural England chair Tony Juniper,
54:38
Speaker 3: agreed a deal on digital sequence information, whereby genetic information
54:43
Speaker 3: that has been sequenced from the natural world can be
54:46
Speaker 3: made available online. Now, if you've not heard of DSi
54:53
Speaker 3: digital sequence information, you'll certainly not be alone. But it's
54:57
Speaker 3: described as being a genetic information that been sequenced from
55:01
Speaker 3: the natural world with the DNA code, then made available
55:05
Speaker 3: online for use in research. Well, is that really the case?
55:10
Speaker 3: Is it just for research? Because they go on to
55:13
Speaker 3: say that research can be applied to medicine, agriculture, conservation
55:17
Speaker 3: and public health, with benefits such as the development of
55:21
Speaker 3: vaccines or adapting plants to be more resilient to climate change. Now,
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Speaker 3: as I said at the start, they have actually made
55:30
Speaker 3: an agreement on this. But should they necessarily have done so? Well,
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Speaker 3: the Cultural Survival would say absolutely not, with a piece
55:40
Speaker 3: just pre dating the meeting saying digital sequence information poses
55:45
Speaker 3: risks to indigenous people's rights and biodiversity and The point
55:50
Speaker 3: they make is that, in effect, the parameters of this
55:53
Speaker 3: process have not been defined and therefore, as a consequence,
55:57
Speaker 3: nor has the regulation surrounding it. In effect, we're in
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Speaker 3: a position where people don't really even know what they're
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Speaker 3: actually dealing with yet, a message that's reinforced by an
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Speaker 3: article in Nature again just before the meeting started, saying
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Speaker 3: don't rush rules for sharing digital genetic sequence information. In effect,
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Speaker 3: the suggestion is that the situation is anything but certain.
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Speaker 3: But of course this is another incidence of the precautionary
56:22
Speaker 3: principle being cast of the wind when it suits the
56:25
Speaker 3: powers that be to do so, and of course nobody
56:28
Speaker 3: seems to really mind what consequences might be. Also, the
56:32
Speaker 3: other things to fall out of this meeting are that
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Speaker 3: the United Kingdom has now declared two new special representatives
56:37
Speaker 3: in this area, one being for Nature Ruth Davis, and
56:40
Speaker 3: she answers to or reports to the Foreign, Commonwealth and
56:45
Speaker 3: Development Office as well as def RA. And then we
56:48
Speaker 3: have Rachel Kite, who is to be the UK's Special
56:53
Speaker 3: Representative on Climate. Now, of course, it's hard to know
56:57
Speaker 3: at this stage what the purpose is of denoting such
57:02
Speaker 3: special representatives. Are they there in order to effectively harness
57:07
Speaker 3: power that wasn't there previously and therefore wield it. Or
57:10
Speaker 3: are they being set up in effectively for a fall
57:14
Speaker 3: if they're unable to achieve the particular mission that given,
57:17
Speaker 3: or are they simply being.
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Speaker 1: Handed too much power?
57:20
Speaker 3: But we'll have a little bit more of a look
57:22
Speaker 3: at Rachel Kite, who was previously Special Representative of the
57:26
Speaker 3: UN Secretary General and the Chief Executive Officer of Sustainable
57:30
Speaker 3: Energy for all. Of course, it's worth making the point
57:33
Speaker 3: that Guterres was the first man, I think, to talk
57:37
Speaker 3: about the era of global boiling, so slightly alarming that
57:40
Speaker 3: she might be in a position to be impluenting government policy.
57:44
Speaker 1: But really let's get to the point and what is
57:47
Speaker 1: it actually about.
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Speaker 3: She is to support ministers to increase senior international diplomatic
57:53
Speaker 3: engagement on climate and clean energy, something that we've seen
57:57
Speaker 3: David Lammy apparently doing in recent weeks. But she is
58:01
Speaker 3: also to strengthen coordination and mobilization of finance for climate
58:05
Speaker 3: action and to increase the strategic impact of the UK
58:11
Speaker 3: international climate finance programs and intervention. So in effect, here
58:18
Speaker 3: we have a couple of new representatives coming out of
58:22
Speaker 3: a conference supposedly on biodiversity, But of course, if you've
58:26
Speaker 3: been watching UK column over the last few months and years,
58:30
Speaker 3: you'll know that biodiversity is in effect a control mechanism
58:34
Speaker 3: for extorting money out of people with the supposed benefit
58:39
Speaker 3: of an improvement for nature, by means that are certainly
58:44
Speaker 3: not within our control, although we are being asked to
58:47
Speaker 3: front up the money, and in due course we may
58:50
Speaker 3: find that our access to the advantages conferred by increasing
58:56
Speaker 3: biodiversity may not actually be granted to us. There's no
59:01
Speaker 3: real change of direction, but certainly the digital sequence part
59:06
Speaker 3: of it is something that we will continue to look
59:09
Speaker 3: at and indeed how that may be used or indeed
59:13
Speaker 3: abused in the coming months and years.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Charles. We've got to leave it on that note,
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Speaker 2: and we'll be back in a few minutes. If you
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Speaker 2: are a UK call a member for some extra Otherwise,
59:27
Speaker 2: don't forget the interview at one pm tomorrow. We'll see
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Speaker 2: it on Friday at one pm as usual for another
59:31
Speaker 2: news program. Do get involved in dealing with the upcoming
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Speaker 2: DITTA legislation if you possibly can, but we'll see in
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Speaker 2: a few minutes for extra see you then, bye bye.