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John Wick: Chapter Four - Worth It Or Nah? (The ForAllNerds Review) · For All Nerds Show

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  a doc Acky aka Lambo colarizi a ka Flex Bluthor aka Mulatto High Tower.
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  And I don't have any John Wick related aka the Best. Probably this is
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  nobody. I mean, I don't know, you know, this is nobody.
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  I don't know. I was also thinking of Whiston, not Duke.
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  I don't know. I don't know. Maybe that might work a little bit,
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  but I don't. I can't think of this this series. There's so
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  much going on with this series. Man, here's the thing, Ben.
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  We did see John Wick, and this is what this movie will be about.
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  Yeah, you have some words I do? Yeah, let me let
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  me start off. Um, we did get to see John Wick four.
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  For those who follow me on Twitter at dj Ben, I mean you might
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  have seen I want to see ye. This was last week. Now,
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  I had a tweet where I said that John Wick might be the main I
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  said, did anyone ever think to themselves that John Wick might be the main
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  feeling of the series and a complete psychopath. And I got, as they
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  say on Twitter, uh, I don't want to say canceled, but um
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  no ratio ratio. I definitely got ratio ratio. I think I don't know
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  if it got it up to six hundred, but six hundred Okay, well
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  there was over six hundred tweets to your tweets. Yeah, and so you
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  were definitely railed. I'll definitely ratiled. And people had various opinions on it.
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  You know, most people disagreed heavily. People. I learned that people
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  definitely have an attachment to this series that I did not know. I mean,
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  I guess I should understood that we're on the fourth one. Now.
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  I've seen them all, you know, I've enjoyed them all to various degrees.
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  I've had this idea about John Wick since I saw the first one.
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  About halfway through the first one, I was like, Okay, this man's
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  a psychopath, you know. And I still hold firm to that, you
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  know, statement, Like I guess, as Ti Towner said, the main
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  villain part of it might have thrown people off, and also even calling Wick
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  a psychopath might throw people off because there's this attachment to John Wick, because
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  there's an attachment to Keanu Reeves, let's all be honest about it. And
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  because of that attachment to Kana, which throws back very long for a lot
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  of people, including myself. You know, yeah, I go back to
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  Bill and Ted Z. That's an eventure I love to do, you know
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  what I mean. He's one of my favorite actors, am not because he's
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  the greatest actor, just because Keiana is awesome, you know, I mean,
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  he's an awesome dude in real life. You know, he's played iconic
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  characters as well as Bill and Ted you know, Neo now John Wick?
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  Um, oh shit, point break, come on, left me forget like
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  this, dude's done it. You know. I love Kiana, I mean
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  and even in the more recent generations, like just even in the two thousands,
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  like his most prolific has been The Matrix and John Nick. Yeah,
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  and he's just a lovable person in real life. So when you combine that
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  that prolificness as well as the general agreeability to who he is as a person,
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  you're going to get some fierce representation. Um, you know, to
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  defend their Night the Night of Keanu Reeves and you know, um, I
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  can't say I felt bad when I saw that the tweets against because man,
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  I mean, first of all, better mean wasn't taking out seriously whatsoever?
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  He said. He shared that statement with me privately, and I was like,
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  oh, this is interesting taking. I laughed about it and kept the
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  pushing. He said, I'm gonna post this, and I just did not
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  expect that type of response. Now, as he said, I think it
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  was your your message was could have been delivered differently for people to get your
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  point and maybe talk to you with more sense as opposed. You've never seen
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  these rooms, don't you understand? The Lord? What? Lord along?
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  And I am a fan of the John Wick series, and I'm a fan
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  to a point, and they're also completely making it up as they go along.
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  Anyone can go to the Wikipedia and right there they say they did not
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  know there would be a sequel when they did the first one. They had
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  no clue. Even in this one, there's a lot of lore made up.
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  They really contradicted some shit that was done in the first three that really
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  would have solved the first three a lot earlier and would not have had this
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  man be the psychopathic rampage that he's drawn on. But back to that point,
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  I'm gonna go back to that and say that I still stand by that
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  because John Wick made a serious choice, right fam I get it. The
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  dog is given to him by his dying wife. His dying wife obviously knew
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  what a monster this man, what life he'd led up until that point.
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  She gave him the dog so when she died, you know, the man
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  would have something to remember her by and to remember you don't have to go
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  back to that monstrous life that you led before. The dog gets killed,
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  and instead of doing all multitude of things, the man goes right back to
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  the monsters, saying he lived before. So it's like, not only does
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  he deny his wife's final wishes by doing this, he confirms what I said
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  of being kind of a sociopath who goes on a psychopathic rampage because his dog
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  was killed, You're not You're not wrong. I also have to ask,
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  though, like, as someone who has been yes he's been in that life,
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  and yes he he's been. I mean he was raised by the Russians,
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  someone who like explicitly was like, leave me the fuck alone. And
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  people would not leave him the fuck alone. Do he He don't and maybe
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  not that way, but he don't have a right to retaliate, Like he
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  said explicitly, leave me the fuck alone. But once the dog was killed,
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  he did not say leave me the funk alone. He went on a
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  ramping. Well, well, yeah, because they can't they And I think
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  that was the That was the other argument people were saying to you, like
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  which I understood, Like they were like, you're saying, oh, well,
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  because they came in. He okay, they kills dogs were supposed to
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  just lay down and say, all right, well shit, I wish you
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  guys would go away. I wish this would end now, like like it's
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  was he supposed to say that? Or like what was he supposed to do?
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  Like if that's how he knows, that's how he does conflict resolution.
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  You guys brought a conflict to my door. I'm gonna resolve it in the
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  way that I know. And I got that in the world of this universe
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  not so much, right, I do say. I My thing with it
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  is that, Okay, It's like I grew up on movies like Commando,
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  Arnold Schwartzenigger. It's a classic right, his daughter gets taken by a dude
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  he used to fuck with, another Secret Service special agent, and all the
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  Schwartzenegger goes on a goddamn rampage to get his daughter back and kills I don't
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  know how many feeling people in this movie through various ways. It's amazing.
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  It's one of my favorite movies. You know, man survives everything and murders
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  everyone, gets the daughter back, flies off at the end. Right,
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  great, Now, if you did that four times in a row, I'd
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  be like, yo, dog, this man got issues family's doing beyond just
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  you know, getting your daughter back. Other argument was, okay, you
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  can't say that. What you say, Well, how he's reacted about the
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  dog, Maybe he didn't have to react so aggro. But then all right,
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  then it's done. But then the next time he legitimately was trying to
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  get out and they wouldn't let the ending out. And then again like,
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  how is he He's not supposed to go aggro? He said, leave me
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  the fuck alone, and people continue to not leave him alone. He also
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  had the choice to not kill the dude in the hotel, thus setting the
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  whole table against him. He could have Yeah, that was a choice and
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  that you know, and doing after them from the first jump, Yes was
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  a choice. Yes, he could have just been like, I gotta get
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  another dog. My dead wife did not want me to do this. Been
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  You're not wrong. Yeah, you know, that's that's the part. You
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  know that, that's the part. Instead, I'm going to murder a bunch
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  of people. And in this universe, like and that was the other thing.
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  It's like in the first one, John Wick, the universe seems to
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  be there's a lot of assassins, but there's still normal people in it.
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  As this seems to go on, As this seems to go on, it's
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  like they've forgotten that and there is nothing but assassins. There's nothing but assassins.
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  And and that's and that's too on purpose. And you said, you're
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  about to probably say it, there's a reason why there's nothing but assassins.
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  I want to omanize it, to make it easy for you to watch thousands
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  of people be killed back to back to back, right because they all signed
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  up for this. And that's where I start having an issue, because it
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  becomes one. It just like in the first one, it was cool,
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  It's like, Okay, there's some assassins and the rest of the world just
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  doesn't know about the secret society. Now it feels like everyone's an assassin or
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  everyone is just completely ignoring all the murder and mayhem that is going on around
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  them constantly. Sounds like the whole world is made of assassins. No one
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  has any fighting right now then, I mean they're outside the goddamn stupe like
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  fight. It's an assassin like everyone, there's no other job in this world.
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  Kill each other. And like you said, that's that's the that's literally
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  the patronage of assassin. Kill each other. There ain't no cooks, there
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  ain't no trash men, there ain't nothing like they don't play the bells.
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  Assassinations pays the mortgage, and it obviously doesn't because these cats did body by.
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  But listen there, this is listen. Okay, all right, nay,
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  let's let's talk. Let's let's start going into the film like we're giving
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  the high levels of st We gotta get into that later, but come on,
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  go ahead. What's your one thing else than you want to say before
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  we get into the film. Um No, I didn't, But I just
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  want to say one last thing about that dehumanization, because that is one of
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  the big problems of this thing is that the fact that we are watching people
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  get double tapped by the thousands at this point, it becomes with it.
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  I don't know. Desensitized is one thing. And I, like I said,
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  I'm a person who grew up on every violent thing in the world,
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  right. But at the same and I do believe that in some instances violence
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  is you know, how it gotta go down. I believe in I believe
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  in the arm resistance, you know, when it comes to it. But
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  I do not who man, just believe in the dehumanization of people. You
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  know, of humans. I do not believe in dogs. So what fucking
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  humans? Man, I don't believe get some real stuff. Yeah, yeah,
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  I hear you. And it gets a little wild watching this film in
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  a theater when people are cheering for the deaths of people and then cheering you
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  know, like when a dog is saved but a person gets shot in the
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  face over it is it more so the volume of death that you see.
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  And that's why this is such a thing, And because it's so there's no
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  all right, That's the other thing. Like people will talk about John win
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  successes. Like one of my favorite series right now is a Barry on HBO.
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  It's about an assassin who's trying to get out of life, and it
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  shows you what killing does to a person, you know, what doing Yeah,
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  the psychological impacts. I'm doing violence upon other people. My other favorite
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  film, one of my favorite films from last year. It's a film Baby
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  Assassins. It's a foreign film and it's about a world like John Wick,
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  where there's a bunch of assassins, you know, but it's still normal world
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  as well, but there's like, you know, an assassins. The cooks
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  there, yeah, yeah, it's cooks and everything. And it's about these
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  two young women who have just graduated from assassin school and are told they have
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  to get a normal job as well as the assassins. And it shows that
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  sociopaths who are murderers really can't function in a normal society, you know.
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  And so that's what I feel like John Wick does. It's a very nihilistic
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  view of life, where it's like people die, you know whatever, you
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  know, niggas die every day, be but it doesn't show you the impact
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  of something like that, and that is really problematic to me because when you
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  have people growing up watching such a nihilistic view of life. Who Man,
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  I don't know, Man, I worry you know, is that your thought
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  process on this is interesting because is this more a lamentation of where the series
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  could have went, or more of a life or no longer accepting like this
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  has kind of been where they were steering this series in the first place.
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  Like it was never meant to be an interrogation of like on a baby of
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  psyche or interrogation like it was never mentally how many niggas can get shot?
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  And creatively can I get these kills? But I don't even think it was
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  that. That's my other issue with John Wick. I've never thought it was
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  creative how he did I would agree with you, Yeah, how he gets
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  these chills are unsuperuncreative. It's yeah, tumble over you, shoot you in
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  the face, double tap, tumble over you, double tap, pull you
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  down, double tap, use you as your shield, double tap your man,
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  double tap you. You know, it is like the same thing over
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  and over again. Commando on the surs and Nigga goes into a shed of
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  tools and starts phoning buzz saw blades and people like with his hands, you
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  know what I mean, lops off of people inside of dude's head. You
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  know, that's what I'm talking about. That's creative kills, like, that's
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  what I go for. And he makes jokes throughout the whole thing. John
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  Wick ain't even got no jokes, you know what I mean. It's just
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  double tap, double tap, double tap. That's serious business man, But
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  answering phones in the middle of battle, like I know, I know,
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  And that's and that's and that's how we're gonna get into this film because I
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  don't believe the John Wick series is meant to be that series. It's I
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  don't even think. I think people do. But that's not the point though,
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  the point of this film as much as again that you're not wrong and
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  the things you're saying, I still think they John Wick knows what it is.
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  They deliver what the people want. And you made a comment to me
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  and also online that you were disturbed by the way people were reacting, behaving,
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  cheering on that stuff. However, this film and this series has consistently
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  delivered what people wanted to see, mindless death from beloved Bobby IgA. That's
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  all the people you want to see. That's what I came that's what I
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  signed up for. And I got that, and I was very I was
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  pleased in that way. Was this this this movie made me think? Did
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  this give me the existential crisis of thought? Absolutely not. I was just
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  like, what is the fucking killcount's gonna be? Like? How many fucking
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  bodies in the first thirty seconds? What the fuck is up right? And
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  then it was like, oh, okay, how brutal can you be?
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  And that's the only reason people go to see these John Wick films. For
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  people running there talking about mythos, you're fucking lying. For people running they're
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  talking about the style points, you're fucking lying. You're fucking see coming there
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  to see brutal, fucking kills from Keyama fucking reads because you love that nigga,
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  And that is okay, let's tell the truth. That's what this film
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  is. You get more of that, You get that fourth quadruple times because
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  it's the fourth goddamn chapter, and that's what you're here for, Okay.
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  You get to see that globe hopping they in where they they in like three
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  four different countries in this film. They in New York, they in Germany,
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  They in France, right, they someplace else? Maybe one other place?
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  Ye like yeah, they were in France. I really can I could
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  not fathom anyone like seriously telling me something on a serious tip of why they're
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  coming to watch this film. Oh, I'm going to CD the way its
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  structured in the thought of mind and peace and balance. No, my nigga,
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  you kind of see some fucking ca Thomas and guns, Like, let's
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  be for real, be fucking for real, that's what this is. Yeah,
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  But and that was that's all. I mean, that was It was
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  very interesting to me, how seriously some of these six hundred plus people took
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  it because they were definitely talking about the lore and I didn't understand the world
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  it's in and nine man man and and I'm like, god, the man
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  at the end of three gets shot by his man's the owner of the hotel
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  falls off the roof hilariously, Winston hit hits like several harps on the way
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  down and it lands on the concrete. I mean, this is like a
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  good six seven eight story drop and somehow survives. So you know, at
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  that point, I'm like, Okay, we're watching a ridiculous superhero. It's
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  fast and the Furious type action, which I don't mind as well, but
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  like you said, I'm not sure which way this series takes it, because
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  Fast and Furious is not going to have people getting double tapped and blood splattering
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  out of them over and over again. Like this is a very serious grip
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  who it is violence and I feel like we man like and I'm not saying,
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  and then because I'm not saying because that's what I seek out in my
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  life, I don't think out gratuit is violence. Just in this specific series.
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  I was like, I think John Wick is a badass, and I
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  like seeing him do gratuitous shit to other people. I want to see that
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  shit. I just wish it would. I don't know a lot not wish.
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  I guess I've expected one variety. I'm just because of the action that
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  I've that I've seen in my life, you know, in action films.
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  I think that this one, like since we're talking about this one in particular,
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  was lacking in terms of action. It did not like I've just seen
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  so much better, you know, especially when you're talking about this genre like
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  the gun food whatever you want to call it, Like people talk about food.
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  Yeah, how John Wick introduced a new style and I'll give it like
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  it brought the arm that was with that was Christian Bell and somebody what was
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  it, well, gun food. That's an equilibrium or whatever. Yeah,
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  equilibrium. But even before that, I go back to like the early John
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  Wu films like The Killer and Hard Boiled, Hard Boiled especially, which is
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  straight up you know, people fighting in close quarters, jumping over each other,
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  shooting guns, and I mean Hard Boiled is iconic levels of action,
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  you know. And then you go back to the Jackie Chan joins, the
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  Michelle Yo joined Super Cop, you know with Jackie Chan, Like that's early
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  ship and even more recent stuff like The Raid and The Raid too. It's
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  like these Yeah, and I'm glad you said I'm gonna I'm gonna piggyback off
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  that because the things about those classic films that you're mentioning, there is an
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  elegance there. This is very brute force and and and it's prituitous. They
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  can get repetitive. And even though I still enjoyed myself, I will agree
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  with you that it wasn't as creative as things I've seen about, like a
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  lot of foreign films you mentioned, like I've seen it. I'm like,
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  oh my god, look at shit. Like again, completely different genre and
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  approach. The Triple R like the ship. I've seen the takedowns, I've
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  seen it on that I was blown away. And I'm just saying like a
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  lot of the things that we watched and John wickfor we've seen before. We've
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  seen and you said you've seen it done better than elsewhere. But my point
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  is you've seen it before. There was nothing particularly creative in terms of the
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  ways people were killed. Now were there things that particularly brutal. Sure,
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  where there's something brand new, not necessarily, but it was particularly brutal.
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  And I think that's also one of the reasons people go because they want to
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  see how brute who can you go? How loud can the pop be?
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  How loud can it slam against the marble floor be of somebody's fucking nagging,
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  you know what I'm saying. So I think it's like sometimes people are watching
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  them like how far are they gonna really go? Not so much is how
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  elegant and and well thought out and contemplative this is. That's not why they're
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  here. But again, just going back to what I had just said about
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  the elegantness of like you said, stuff like Supercop and stuff like that,
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  Like John Wickford was directed by the guy who directed the first one, chad'st
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  Healski, and I found out that Chad had his whole history is being a
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  stuntman. And that's when the light bulbs went off for me. I was
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  like, now it makes sense just and and and particularly in the way John
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  Wickford has been choreographed because it's long number one, it's a long movie.
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  Flowers forty right something around there. And for me personally, I saw the
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  choreography. That's and I want to make that point, which is why I
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  remember I said a few moments ago, like the classic from Ben mentioned had
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  a lot of elegance to them. There is in this overt in elegance in
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  John Wickford. And perhaps that's just a that's just because John wick himself is
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  not an elegant guy. Like he's just very literally throwing his gun at you
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  fifty times. But to see it over and over again and very just heavy
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  footed, heavy handed, this looks like a choreographed scene. It's you I
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  And from that perspective, that's when I hear you've been when I'm like,
• 22:42
  Okay, this can be done better. Yes, And just as far as
• 22:48
  like even in terms of like you were you were talking about Triple R and
• 22:52
  you know, we talk about the old trends had the super coop and everything.
• 22:55
  It's just there's a variety to the action there is, like with stunts
• 23:00
  or something even more recent like the Mission Impossible series, where it's like they're
• 23:04
  already you know. This one definitely felt like the first one. It's funny
• 23:08
  you say that it was directed by the same dude because it felt like the
• 23:11
  first one where that was the vibe I got from the first one. It
• 23:14
  was like, Okay, this is a very video game esque movie. John
• 23:17
  Wick is just moving through levels like it's different color levels and they have different
• 23:21
  colored enemies on every level for him to shoot. And that's how this one
• 23:25
  felt. It was like, Okay, here's the black suited dudes in this
• 23:26
  level, in this room, here's the black suited dudes on the roof.
• 23:30
  He got past them. Dudes. Now it's these dudes, but those way
• 23:33
  it felt very like super hot, like you were just hot levels. Yeah,
• 23:37
  And it was that wave after wave, wave after wave, and that
• 23:41
  was just how the first one was. And that's why I didn't even in
• 23:45
  the first one. I got kind of bored because it was just like,
• 23:47
  Okay, this is repetitive. He's trying to walk through another room. He's
• 23:51
  trying to wrestle some dudes. He's trying to double tap some more dudes.
• 23:53
  Owned now the dude's drop body armors, so he got a double tap him
• 23:56
  four times instead. You know they're gonna keep coming and going. That was
• 24:00
  inconsistent, but we'll get into that. And he did that, and I
• 24:03
  mean that was in the first one. It was the same thing. And
• 24:04
  it's like, this is like the first one and this one of the ones
• 24:07
  I remember the most, the third one with Hallie. It's like, I
• 24:10
  remember Hallie and the dogs. I thought that was seeing out that was creative
• 24:14
  as fun to me because I had never really seen shit that where they really
• 24:17
  incorporated dog shot when like Wick goes over the table and the dog goes under
• 24:22
  the table thing and nig got lose my shit every time. That ship was
• 24:26
  so fire and it was and it was that, and it was that fire
• 24:30
  flame that I still held with me all these years waiting on the sequel.
• 24:34
  So when I was just like, oh yeah, and that's remember I had
• 24:37
  said that maybe online a few times, I was like, I came to
• 24:41
  see John before because I want to see how they gonna topp themselves? Because
• 24:44
  three really was that girl? And then you know this, I was like,
• 24:48
  okay, like I I still got the from the as as the for
• 24:52
  me the John Wick series that was that girl. Yeah it had they had
• 24:56
  to like the dog ship was so fire. But then it all set him
• 24:59
  falling off the roof of day around like whatever, I mean, this is
• 25:02
  what and this is what the fos moment here too, But every every episode,
• 25:06
  every chapter has had that what the fuck? So I just like the
• 25:11
  most new ship in this fire ship and yes, Hallie was it three?
• 25:15
  And I was like, all right, they don't really top this shit.
• 25:17
  They're gonna they're gonna go off on the phone. No the degrees was it
• 25:23
  like anything imaginative? Not necessarily? No? All right, um, you
• 25:30
  know how we do. Let's talk about some things that we did, like
• 25:32
  because I feel like we have already thought about something reading like and it's more
• 25:34
  the bat. I thought it was pretty, you know, beautiful gowns,
• 25:37
  you know, nice dress like everything. You know, every location beautiful.
• 25:44
  Um, you know from the opening in the uh they're when they're in the
• 25:48
  Japanese hotel, you know, when Wick goes off on the roof beautiful.
• 25:52
  I loved when he moved downstairs into that Samurai room or whatever with all the
• 25:57
  armor and the same glass windows they busting through the way he bust my man
• 26:03
  up against the drum. That sure was pure comedy, hilarious. Costume design,
• 26:07
  set design, character models, the storyboarding, game really the storyboarding,
• 26:17
  because the storyboarding was very apparent because of the video games part of it.
• 26:21
  But well done, excellent, I still very fairly and especially costuming again,
• 26:27
  like that's really to me, like we get the action. The imagination was
• 26:33
  in the costuming. The imagination is in how people look and present. The
• 26:36
  imagination is the feeling you get when they enter into each locale and how each
• 26:41
  different group looks or whether they're there that the ethnic group looks, the cultural
• 26:45
  group, or just the familiar group that they're part of. They each have
• 26:48
  their own specific signature and their own specific feeling, and this film did really
• 26:53
  well at that. So I'm not sure who the who the costume designer is.
• 26:56
  I want to look that up, but I give kudos to them.
• 27:00
  They did excellent job. As I said in the set design, excellent job,
• 27:03
  excellent, excellent job. I always love that about the wid series because
• 27:06
  they're always in these weird locations where it's like they shouldn't be, but because
• 27:10
  they're the ultra rich, ultra powerful people. Like they was in the fucking
• 27:14
  Hutson Yards in New York, like in in some random fucking building with with
• 27:18
  the with the edge, you know, the edge platform shit like in there
• 27:22
  in this room that like you said, you're not supposed to be here right
• 27:23
  now, and they had they had like a cemetery on the piers. You
• 27:26
  know who has that? You know? But this is that universe, So
• 27:30
  that's how it goes down. It's always love that type of stuff to a
• 27:34
  point because it's also we'll get into that about you know, the money is
• 27:38
  funny in these in this film especially, just felt like avatar giving avatar economics,
• 27:47
  an avatar economics for real. But um, I did love the villain.
• 27:51
  I can't remember the actor's name. Oh that's a star star brother brother,
• 27:56
  yes, brothers, the rest of the guard I thought they had two
• 28:00
  aids in their name. Oh no, there's only one. There's only one.
• 28:03
  Yeah, there's only one. Stars Gyard family just like Eric Northman's little
• 28:07
  brother. Yep, they are that is all you know. They run But
• 28:12
  yeah, they run the damn damn so yeah yeah stars guard Um, I
• 28:18
  loved his outfits. That I'm saying the cousin design his fits was on point.
• 28:25
  This nigga is of john Wick. Yes, shiny soup man times eleven
• 28:33
  million. That man ship was blinging brilliance. Ra No he I yeah.
• 28:40
  That that continues into what I said about the way it looked. It's still
• 28:44
  a slick look in terms of the film. People still look cool and that's
• 28:48
  part and that's that's again that that's the DNA for me comes keano of like
• 28:52
  the Matrix. Niggas look cool when they plugged in, right, that's your
• 28:56
  that's your hersna her acting onto your character model. And the people who who
• 29:03
  write and direct this clearly feel that same when it always when it's come to
• 29:07
  john Wick. Nigga's got a look cool. My suit is has made the
• 29:11
  fucking kevlar fibers that I can lift it up and sill myself from a point
• 29:18
  blank range blast of dragonfire. That's the stuff you get in john Wick for
• 29:25
  and also with that it Um, I'm sorry, I was just like it's
• 29:34
  absurd, but I mean, you love it. The absurdity you have to
• 29:38
  fucking love that that was the point, some people have surmised, or you
• 29:41
  know, there's an internet idea that John Wick takes place in the matrix,
• 29:47
  which would make everything make complete sense, like the lack of physics and yeah,
• 29:53
  the lack of reality. Let's be real. Yeah, yeah, I
• 29:56
  can see that. In this movie. At one point, a large man
• 30:00
  get shot him the ass and then turns around and starts delivering high kicks like
• 30:04
  nothing happened to him. Minutes before that, john Wick himself falls at least
• 30:10
  fifty feet, slams his body into several things on the way down, and
• 30:15
  like nothing happened. Often Keano's falling off of shit and falling like force trauma
• 30:22
  on his body time and time again, he would be dead instantly, you
• 30:26
  know, like he would have been dead from the first hotel fall. But
• 30:30
  in this movie, there are two separate falls that would have killed this man
• 30:33
  instant instantly, And he gets up and walks away and continues battling. Actually
• 30:38
  three, because the stairs does. I'm saying, if countless times, countless
• 30:41
  times, yeah, he would be dead, and there aren't. And again,
• 30:47
  maybe it's meant to be funny. I think there's some scenes that I
• 30:49
  don't know they were supposed to be funny. Man, That whole audience,
• 30:52
  the whole fucking audience was rolling, rolling, and I don't know it was
• 30:56
  meant to be funny. Again, I mean, I don't know what.
• 31:00
  They don't laughing, But but these are the same ones that was cheering very
• 31:03
  loudly at things that you were like mentality like, right, So I don't
• 31:07
  I don't know. Then, I just think because this these films tap into
• 31:11
  the the the id part, the reptilian part of the brain where it's just
• 31:15
  like violence in Mayhem, you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's it's
• 31:19
  and and and it's still and it triggers that that that point that that cortisome
• 31:23
  point and cortisol whatever the the whatever the the kinmicool is that that gets you
• 31:30
  hype. Some of them said that because a lot of people in their daily
• 31:36
  lives cannot, you know, go through a lot of bullshit, that they
• 31:38
  cannot lash out against John Wicks that idea, well, this is what I
• 31:42
  if I could do it, that's how I do it, you know,
• 31:47
  which also worried, Well, you shouldn't worry, because you know why,
• 31:52
  because that sounds like America. Yes, and that's like how America is and
• 31:56
  how America operates and everything we see on a literal weekly basis. I wish
• 32:00
  I could do something about it. Well, I'm gonna do something about it.
• 32:02
  And I have a gun. And that is why I, you know,
• 32:06
  have somewhat of an issue with these films, especially this one. And
• 32:09
  um, I don't know what else to be Okay, well, no,
• 32:12
  I know something else that I really did like that I want to mention is
• 32:15
  Donnie In playing King. I mean, Donnie In is the fucking legend,
• 32:20
  you know, like has done everything from it Man to Rogue One. He
• 32:22
  is just a god of cinema, I mean, and a god of martial
• 32:27
  arts, a god of atching films and and and when you see him and
• 32:30
  even hero Yuki Sonata because he's pay like when you see them both in these
• 32:37
  fighting scenes. You remember how I said about elegance, right, And granted
• 32:43
  this is purposeful because these are different people, different characters, so they have
• 32:45
  different fighting styles. You're just gonna see different but it's just even delivery of
• 32:50
  it. It's just a market difference where you're just like that's a stunt man
• 32:53
  and that's the nigga that knows what the fuck he's doing, right, And
• 32:55
  that's what you see with Donnieanne. That's what you see with Yuki and some
• 32:59
  other people who like show out in the film, Like you can very much
• 33:02
  tell who knows the shit. Yeah, and Donnie and is one of those
• 33:07
  dudes who has been doing his own stunts all his life, you know,
• 33:09
  and that's what he does all his fighting scenes. You know, it's always
• 33:13
  like the clean, so cool. It was like he was like half drunken
• 33:16
  master, half lunch one like half like he was. He was doing like
• 33:22
  mad style, four or five different styles at once. Like I was like,
• 33:24
  this shit is insane. Yeah, his blind style using tech. There's
• 33:29
  a lot of dopeness to his character. I love Kane. I love his
• 33:32
  whole arc in the film. I thought he had, you know, probably
• 33:36
  the dopest story, probably the most purposeful story out of John With to me,
• 33:40
  like I could actually identify with his need to do what he had to
• 33:44
  do. I you know, I never could. I'm sorry, but what
• 33:46
  came right away, I was like, I feel, you bro, murder
• 33:50
  anybody in your path, you know, do what you gotta do. Fam
• 33:52
  you know what I mean. I feel you fam like look, yeah,
• 33:55
  so that was dope um, dopest fuck um. I like, like I
• 34:01
  said, I still at the end of the day, I still like the
• 34:04
  cast, like everyone fit the Bill, Like remember Bill Skarsgar did a great
• 34:08
  villain with a purpose. Yeah, it all comes down to ego. But
• 34:12
  at the end of the day, he still had a purpose and he looked
• 34:14
  cool. Lawrence Frisch Uncle, you know, Uncle Morpheus should have been there
• 34:19
  longer. Yeah, maybe more of that and he kind of Yeah, especially
• 34:24
  after the end of three, because at the end of three, I figured
• 34:27
  it was Morpheus, Morphs and Morphus and Neo again alongside American gods. No,
• 34:34
  Winston is the guy. Winston is the number two, so that's why
• 34:37
  you see. But they were all teaming up at the end of three to
• 34:40
  take down the hot table. That was the thing. Yeah, well yeah,
• 34:44
  but also because of the the Bowery King, like his character is a
• 34:50
  shadow type character, where like he comes, he pops out when you need
• 34:52
  him, and then he's you know, under the a train somewhere I don't
• 34:57
  know, like and the event. Again, in the context of the character,
• 35:05
  it makes sense that he's in and out of the shadows. You see
• 35:07
  him sometimes you see him not okay with that concert the movie. In the
• 35:09
  context of the movie, he was there to get paid off by the n
• 35:13
  r A. I think, but um, your boy Lance Reddick, you
• 35:17
  know video game vocal voice after the wire, I mean, come on man,
• 35:22
  yeah, yes, the wire, Yes, the obvious stuff. I'm
• 35:25
  just saying, you know, like I mean voice after yeah, swo on
• 35:30
  the low, okay, out of control? Cut up boy. That man
• 35:35
  he liked that what's his name the Good Place? You know, like when
• 35:38
  um Chitty from the Good Place took his shirt off, Oh yeah, and
• 35:43
  he was like, oh he's actually like yeah yeah, same same on the
• 35:46
  wire. I was like, god, damn man. All right, how
• 35:50
  did you feel about Shamir Anderson who is the tracker or also known as mister
• 35:55
  Nobody. All right? Um, this dab into like this gets into this
• 36:04
  movie racist? You know, like that that got into it. It was
• 36:07
  like I was, I was like, wow, um um bit in miss
• 36:12
  direction. There um not a good showing. Not a not a good showing.
• 36:15
  And once again this is movie racist. Um. Mister Nobody, at
• 36:20
  least from the trailers right, is a black dude with a German shepherd dog
• 36:23
  who was very reminiscent of Hollyberry's character from John with Three. So when I
• 36:30
  think me and pretty much every other black person, I okay, I don't
• 36:34
  want to speak for all black people are not a monolith, but when we
• 36:36
  saw the trailer, we were like, Okay, there must be some connection
• 36:38
  to house character. Why else would there be that? That's and not forget
• 36:43
  being black. That's the first time they maybe not the only time, of
• 36:45
  this, the first time they really introduced dogs to that degree, to this
• 36:50
  type of fighting style. So you're going to make the medic connection whether he
• 36:53
  was black or any other black ads to it like black ads, Yes,
• 36:58
  But I'm just saying if someone shows up with a godamn Jeremy Shepard, well,
• 37:00
  Hallie Berry had Jumper Sheer, so they're gonna do some Moe to Hallieberry.
• 37:02
  Shit, that's the first thing you're gonna think. You're gonna think connection.
• 37:05
  And yes, because in being black even more so. And this is
• 37:09
  a bit of a spoiler right here. Sorry, folks. I think we've
• 37:13
  kind of avoided most of them, but this one I feel needs to be
• 37:15
  distressed because I felt disrespected. There is no goddamn connection to halle Berry at
• 37:21
  all. And this movie is two hours and forty six minutes. And mister
• 37:25
  Nobody, not only for not having a connection to Holleyberry, has no connection
• 37:30
  to anything, and has no story, has no arc, actually does a
• 37:36
  lot of improbable dumb shit, you know, and really is part of the
• 37:42
  whole. One of my big issues with the thing is the fact that basically
• 37:47
  mister Nobody is yet another person trying to kill John rid for the money,
• 37:51
  and the price he wants to get is about twenty three million, which gets
• 37:54
  up on the board. You know. They have the same callers from the
• 37:58
  early series who are put out the calls to all the assassins out there,
• 38:02
  and basically niggas trying to kill this man for like twenty five mills. And
• 38:06
  I'm like, dog, this man has rolled through three movies of people like,
• 38:10
  ain't no way I'm getting out of bed for less than one hundred billies,
• 38:13
  you know what I mean. And this is where it gets to be,
• 38:15
  as we say, Avatar economics, because on Avatar, like when they
• 38:19
  were talking about the fucking spice or whatever it was they was taking off that
• 38:21
  planet, they what did they say? They said they was gonna make like
• 38:23
  three hundred millions something like that, something low key I said. Niggas went
• 38:28
  into not just space like like saper spasis were no sleep whatever seven years you
• 38:37
  and you're talking me, I'm only getting triple millions, Nigga, Where are
• 38:39
  the billies? Where are the bees? Where are the teams? Where are
• 38:43
  the trillions? Because you're talking about mining a whole another planet and another fucking
• 38:47
  system. I need trillions, not like like Lebron makes three hundred millions,
• 38:52
  snoring on his side, like not doing shit. So what are you talking
• 38:58
  about? Like talking about That's why I don't That's what like it was just
• 39:00
  weird economics and again like using avatar as as as if reference point for them
• 39:06
  to say the Baba fucking Yaga who has taken out god knows how many people
• 39:13
  in his lifetime, forget the three movies in his lifetime of Assassin Nationhood,
• 39:17
  who knows, and he is unstopable. He's falling off of everything in the
• 39:22
  fucking world. He doesn't shot stamb, he doesn't waiver, he doesn't bend
• 39:29
  twenty to twenty three million, twenty that's it, Okay, what let's say
• 39:36
  that that that's the price is fine, right, Nigga desperate, but fine,
• 39:40
  you can't find a bazooka for like, you know, one hundred k
• 39:45
  you know, like Hena's gonna bounce off his fucking jacket, jacket up,
• 39:51
  try with it. You know that that that's my problem. But I mean
• 39:52
  the jacket goes up. He sees in purviews like sniper rifles bombs. Homeboy,
• 39:59
  the tracker had a s rifle that chain work, true, but that
• 40:01
  nigga was an ass. So you know, you can't expect that shop to
• 40:05
  work, um something like Nigga's Like that was my problem with niggas. Just
• 40:09
  keep rolling up on this man. You know, I think, I think,
• 40:14
  and I gotta say, like granted, maybe that maybe, like when
• 40:17
  we talk about the economics, maybe that means a lot in that world,
• 40:21
  but you can't use that very very low number in twenty twenty three and then
• 40:24
  make me care about that bounty. That's not a bounty, that's that's a
• 40:30
  fucking you know, that's all sponsorship with Ford Ford Cars, board motors,
• 40:35
  Like that's nothing. That's a sponsorship focus, right, Like Nike, hell
• 40:42
  fucking Craft singles is paying more than that, Like come on, bro,
• 40:45
  like the cheese is giving me the cheese, Like don't play it with me
• 40:50
  in twenty millions, and like the amount of people who are like, yeah,
• 40:54
  fuck it, you know what I mean, Assume that car goes out.
• 40:58
  They're like, Oh, that's that's the number. But that's the one
• 41:00
  I've been waiting on. That's the one I'm like, y'all, it's the
• 41:05
  once again, it's the Bobby yagga. Like niggas got myths and stories about
• 41:12
  this nigga. He's called ya like a sloping floor. He's not on the
• 41:16
  calling my name my guy. When people start saying jail and nigga starts shaking
• 41:23
  right as soon as the nigga's dad in the first from found out who he
• 41:28
  fucked with, the nigga wanted to start crying, and these niggas is like
• 41:31
  ready to die. Nigga like Biggie out here, dog like remedy million is
• 41:36
  the number to make you dash all fear you've ever had of this guy.
• 41:38
  You know who this person is. Everyone knows, like are you dead?
• 41:43
  As it'd be like it'd be like, you know, okay, you can
• 41:45
  play Lebron James and basketball right now. If you lose, you owe me
• 41:49
  twenty meals. You know, Nigga's like, fucking dog, I got this.
• 41:52
  You know, this is a fucking dinner date with Jayson, Like why
• 41:57
  are we why are you making that decision? But jav said take the money,
• 42:01
  Like are you serious? Right now? I just saw the remake of
• 42:05
  House Party, which is you know, don't do you know? Being went
• 42:08
  through that so you don't have to. But I will say the one good
• 42:12
  part about it was when at the end of Dude tries to play Lebron James,
• 42:15
  you know, because he's in Lebron's house and he's like, yo,
• 42:17
  just let me play you and don't call the cops, and Lebron drops twenty
• 42:21
  one on the Nigga's gonna happen. And that's the one time while watching this
• 42:32
  film, the fourth the fourth Chapter four. But I'm just like, fam
• 42:36
  you and I understand without that happening will be no film. But I'm like,
• 42:38
  they are better ways like that, say just say fucking like, like,
• 42:44
  just say something. If we're gonna do outrageous things like fight the Bobby
• 42:46
  Yaga, give me an outrageous number that you know you're not gonna fucking paint
• 42:51
  me. You're literally the Marquise is a fucking snake. You can say any
• 42:54
  goddamn thing and take it back. Take just why nigga say a million the
• 43:00
  bobby, y'all go okay? Then it makes sense that everybody in a moms
• 43:02
  gives up to go after this nigga twenty. That's the other wild part about
• 43:07
  it, especially with Missing Nobody, because Missing Nobody to drop the film is
• 43:10
  arguing over his price and the markets like that whatever is just like, you
• 43:16
  know, stressing over paying this nigga, like the Marquise is obviously one of
• 43:22
  the kings of the game. Almost like the Marquise not have like is he
• 43:24
  broke? Like for him, he is stressing over he was. It was
• 43:30
  giving broke And I was just concerned about how much money is really in the
• 43:34
  Kingdom of the Assassins because it must not be a lot for people to flip
• 43:38
  out over there. It's obviously not a lot, right, I guess that's
• 43:42
  what it is. Niggas is that stressed because everybody is a is a murderer.
• 43:45
  So it's like, you know, if everybody's a murderer, that means
• 43:47
  any job can go for the low, you know what I mean. It's
• 43:50
  like now how I feel about DJs, Like everybody got damn DJs. Everybody'll
• 43:52
  do it for whatever, you know what I mean. So nigga's like,
• 43:55
  y'all key for five bucks, Nigga, I got written, that's you know
• 44:02
  what that and that would be okay with that. Had it not been the
• 44:07
  Bobby Yaga would have essential dollar down. No, no, no, see
• 44:10
  it ain't no. That's what I'm saying. Niggas is killing other niggas for
• 44:13
  five dollars. Yeah, when niggas put up twenty three mills, Nigga,
• 44:16
  I gotta go for this nigga. Niggas is killing each other for five dollars,
• 44:29
  you know. And and listen and granted, we're using scales of lebron
• 44:34
  and you know, mighty meteors. We understand it. We're giving these outrageous
• 44:38
  scales of stuff. But you would ya, that's outrageous. I'm saying,
• 44:44
  be consistent. You're giving me the most outrageous as Benami says, psychopath.
• 44:50
  It's like the world and twenty million. You're telling me my life is worth
• 44:53
  twenty million when this nigga, his kills is worth five hundred. Niggas.
• 44:59
  Niggas is lebronch some body and niggas like you know what I mean, you
• 45:04
  to die this dog like this nigga think about body and niggas in his sleep.
• 45:10
  Man made it like it was like a prize fight like boxing, where
• 45:14
  its it's like, well you lost, what you get some money? No,
• 45:16
  you lost, you die and you don't get no money. It's not
• 45:23
  the fucking powerable. That's what I like. Forget the scales of economics.
• 45:29
  It's just like this is not consistent with who what what you're facing? Fairwell
• 45:34
  with bodies, Nigga Like this nigga was like leaving so many bodies in his
• 45:37
  weight. Dog and it's almost like again and that is a motivator. What
• 45:42
  is going on? Why y'all? So goddamn you know, why is this
• 45:47
  so important? Because niggas is broke. That's what I'm telling you. Everybody
• 45:52
  is a murderer in this universe. So niggas is starved. You know what
• 45:54
  I mean. Everybody is desperate for money. That'sperate, that's the word.
• 45:59
  That spirit for money. Bro that's I mean. They are murdering people for
• 46:01
  five dollars, that's all. With that, life means nothing in this like
• 46:07
  y'all, y'all, y'all really got it. He y'all got it, and
• 46:10
  and and and it's probably also like this is um, but what's the afro
• 46:15
  Samurai? The one type of thing you know where it's like everybody's coming for
• 46:19
  this man constantly. He retired from the game, and they're like, who
• 46:22
  finding you know, and now it's like, no, he bat Now I
• 46:24
  gotta make my name, you know, because you know I'm out here murdering
• 46:28
  people for five dollars, like I gotta make my name. Dog bro,
• 46:35
  Listen, they're worst in terms of life, you know, Like that dude's
• 46:40
  not crap fiends, you know what I mean? For that body man,
• 46:45
  ain't no way you could get me out there for no twenty ms for John
• 46:47
  with no bro. Like I said, it's like playing Lebron. If somebody
• 46:51
  who's like right now, Ben, you play Lebron, you get twenty meal,
• 46:53
  you lose you old twenty meals. Nigga, I'm sitting down. I
• 46:58
  ain't playing that nigga. Like the nigga busting my ass the other stuff.
• 47:00
  I like some of the scenes. Um, there is a really cool but
• 47:06
  we've seen it before, but really cool overshot overhead cream. I don't know
• 47:09
  if that's going, but overhead scene that goes John Wick fighting through a chateau
• 47:15
  or a building or somewhat, and it's literally ripped out of a lot of
• 47:19
  first person shooters that you see where like you know, if you have the
• 47:22
  third person, yeah, well when you change the view, if you change
• 47:25
  the view to the top down, the ones that still have that, yeah,
• 47:29
  the top down view where they're going like room, the room, and
• 47:30
  like you see stuff happening all around, but they haven't reached the main character
• 47:35
  yet, so you'd like to see, like what's going to happen, but
• 47:37
  then what actually happens, like to see the impulses of people, to see
• 47:43
  the mistakes people making, like you see it all happening at once on screen.
• 47:45
  That was cool to see, Benemy said, wasn't the first time I
• 47:49
  seen something like that, but it was cool. And it did it twice.
• 47:52
  I think they did that, Detective, and it was so much Well,
• 47:57
  they did it twice, and then then it starts going back to what
• 48:00
  you were seeing earlier about Yo, they keep doing the same thing over and
• 48:02
  over and over again. And after a while I was like, all right,
• 48:06
  you've got no others of your sleeve, any other tricks, right,
• 48:08
  It was all right cool, Like I thought, like, for example,
• 48:10
  I thought that shot was gonna last longer, but you know, it just
• 48:13
  stopped. I was all right, cool, and then it started up again.
• 48:15
  I was all right, we're back here, and I was like,
• 48:16
  all right, like again, it's it's and and and perhaps like you know
• 48:22
  that that's going to the stuff that I've wavered on where it's just like this
• 48:25
  is cool, but then you're going on too long, and then like he's
• 48:30
  not really elegant and what he's doing, and it's like getting kind of tired,
• 48:36
  like yeah, super tired. And beyond that, the movie is super
• 48:40
  long for no good reason. And I realized that like ten minutes and I'm
• 48:45
  like, oh my god, there's so many pauses. There's so many scenes
• 48:47
  to just drag on. It's not that much action for two hours and forty
• 48:52
  six minutes, Like it is a lot of god damn talking, you know,
• 48:58
  and a lot of meetings and shit, like there's like, yeah,
• 49:01
  there's like four or five six big action sequences, but man, there's a
• 49:06
  lot of talking. And I mean that sounds like a lot. Ben It's
• 49:08
  just that I don't it's just that it's four or five those five maybe long
• 49:15
  sequences with lots of repetition. And maybe that's why I felt like it wasn't
• 49:19
  that much action because ten there's a lot of action, but it's the same
• 49:22
  action, same match. There. It is like we don't even have a
• 49:27
  really good car chase, you know, we don't like, well, it's
• 49:30
  not a car chase as much as it involves cars. I mean, my
• 49:32
  man does don'tut talking people and blast them. But like, I mean,
• 49:37
  there was lots of cars. There were lots of cars, and the whole
• 49:39
  scene was about cars are dangerous things. Yes, that was true, and
• 49:45
  also how much people would nor people getting bodied around them, like yeah,
• 49:49
  and that goes back to the stuff about like we waivered on our things that
• 49:51
  were just outright ridiculous, Like there were too many like NPCs that did not
• 49:57
  react to what was going on around them and I don't care what drug they're
• 50:00
  on. Yeah, it was strange. And then when they would we add
• 50:05
  it was like, okay, but why didn't you we act? You know,
• 50:07
  it was it was a very muted reaction. Versions yeah, run for
• 50:10
  your fucking life, and Bob Iaga and some randoms are fucking shooting up the
• 50:15
  place, and so it's like once again, it's everybody in Assassin, but
• 50:20
  that's just kind of goofy, you know, That's what I mean. It's
• 50:22
  like before, like even when they had that scene when common in Him are
• 50:24
  going through the thing and shooting each other to patch. Yeah, they're like
• 50:29
  using silencers and ship which is goofy, but at least it's like making the
• 50:32
  attempt to be like, Okay, they're not, you know, being seen
• 50:36
  by everyone. But in this it's like these dudes are just blasting away right
• 50:40
  next to people and no one pays attention, and huge crowds of used crowds
• 50:47
  in traffic and traffic traffic on a well that stair case that seems to be
• 50:54
  you know, there's some apartment buildings that's do it Like nobody noticed shit,
• 51:00
  and it's just like what universe? What are we watching? Is? I
• 51:05
  get it? But I didn't have that feeling before. This one's just like
• 51:07
  fuck it. No, Like they really truly treat them like old school NPCs
• 51:12
  that are literally just back as wallpaper, right, and no matter what you
• 51:16
  do they want, they won't move, they won't really run or act.
• 51:20
  They're going to do their animations. Because that's what I mean, literally dog
• 51:28
  Like once again, this movie is I feel that a lot about a lot
• 51:32
  of Hollywood productions. Sometimes it's like done by people who've never been in the
• 51:36
  places that they're showing, Like people who've never been to a club, you
• 51:39
  know, are showing you a club because people are dancing the way people are
• 51:45
  acting, it's like, oh, yeah, this is with heavens and clubs.
• 51:47
  No, it's not fair if you run through a club with a gun.
• 51:51
  I don't give a fuck what drugs people are on. I've been in
• 51:52
  all of them. People are going to react. As soon as you start
• 51:57
  running through with a gun. You know, people are going back man has
• 51:59
  a gun, screaming and yelling, and then everyone is trying to react.
• 52:02
  It's just going to happen because one person is trying to see the gun and
• 52:06
  it's all takes there was you know, it's just like people have not Beenity
• 52:09
  scenes once again are like with people who are in a different realm of money
• 52:14
  as well, where it's like twenty three million sounds like something people would,
• 52:16
  you know, kill themselves more and it's like I don't know, but the
• 52:20
  people don't matter in john Wick and that's why they don't react the way they
• 52:23
  need you think they would because meaningless it is what you know, I feel
• 52:28
  like this universe is about and if they really explored that, it'd be cool.
• 52:32
  But they don't. You know, it's like because it's not, and
• 52:35
  then it is, and then it's not. Like I said in the you
• 52:37
  know comment in them to trying to hide all the contract, it's it's a
• 52:39
  lot of contradictory Oh my god, dialogue and approaches, it's all contradictory.
• 52:49
  And then again, like I said, I didn't care. I didn't come
• 52:52
  there for stuff to make sense. I was just like, well, is
• 52:54
  he gonna use the katana to to to slice open this nigga and then pop
• 52:59
  them with his gun or not? Like, which, what are we doing?
• 53:01
  I mean he barely uses it. I mean it is straight up shoot
• 53:04
  shoot, yeah, he's he's a gun guy. He's here. He's very
• 53:07
  much a guy. And I just, like I said, my whole thing
• 53:09
  that that annoyed me was like, and I know that's his thing. He
• 53:13
  just kept throwing his goddamn gun at people, like, throw the gun at
• 53:17
  somebody, like it's funny, Like have we seen it in other films?
• 53:24
  It's funny the first time it's funny when it's like, yo, it's clear
• 53:28
  that he's run out of options. What else did he have in his hand?
• 53:30
  A gun? Fucking us that the gun itself as a weapon. Great,
• 53:34
  But then after literally the twelfth time you throw in your gun at somebody,
• 53:37
  it's like, we couldn't do this differently, you know. Um,
• 53:42
  so that's that. That's the only thing, like because I can't say I
• 53:45
  disliked it a lot of this stuff, it's just stuff that I took notice
• 53:49
  of, like really guy, Like, like I said, I wasn't where
• 53:52
  I was like this was whacked. It was more just like, you know,
• 53:57
  that's just how I felt about it. And then the something that I
• 54:00
  did feel was extremely whacked was the fact that I felt like it was a
• 54:04
  two hour and forty six um long in R A M. And they can't
• 54:09
  fault you there in a very bad way. It's like there are so many
• 54:15
  shots of the names of guns. People call out guns. It's gun glorification.
• 54:20
  It's super and if you if you like, I think it's cool,
• 54:23
  like you know, within reason, within reason, America has a gun problem.
• 54:28
  That is no, not yeah, but no, this is very much
• 54:30
  like like when they were even describing one of the guns for John and like
• 54:35
  the way your glorification the movie's literalist, but I mean it says the movie
• 54:39
  stops to express the love and gratitude for this particular type of gun as if
• 54:45
  it was a person. And I was just like, wow, that's strange
• 54:49
  and and this is numb for someone who like I like that shit, right,
• 54:51
  I like, like, I think, I think it's cool when you
• 54:53
  respect the weapon, when you learn about how it works, and you use
• 54:58
  it in control of manner. You know, I'm about gun control and shit
• 55:00
  like that. Okay, i might be out there in the range, but
• 55:02
  I'm also about gun control, So I'm not the one who'll be sitting there
• 55:06
  thinking that's cute. Like to me, it was just like, oh,
• 55:08
  that's a lot. Yeah, And I'm like I say, once again,
• 55:12
  someone who grew up on the eighties atch in flicks, you know where Arnold
• 55:14
  Soiz nigger. Every time there's a moment where he gonna go into some room
• 55:17
  and pull off the curtain and there's to be a million guns, and he's
• 55:21
  gonna go through them all, and you're gonna see them, and all they're
• 55:23
  gonna look all pretty and shy, this is what this one does. This
• 55:25
  is when this one is okay, bah blah blah, and this and there
• 55:29
  is that and they still have that. They have that where you see all
• 55:31
  the different guns and different animal and this is what this does, and then
• 55:34
  you get to see what is the damage that it inflicts on that person or
• 55:37
  thing. Great, but it's just when it come and comes, like like
• 55:42
  the glorification, you're really sitting there and if you are really into weaponry like
• 55:46
  that, then you're gonna love this, right And honestly, most of the
• 55:51
  stuff that we said, if this is what shit you wanted to see anyway,
• 55:52
  we're just you probably salivate them right now, like, oh, it's
• 55:55
  my ship right here. That's great. We're just saying there's going to some
• 55:59
  people who might have some questions, that's all. And I had some questions.
• 56:02
  And you know, we talked about this before on the show, like
• 56:05
  when we were Distrusting Black Panther, which I felt was a funny way to
• 56:07
  bring it up, but we talked about how Hollywood is influenced by the military
• 56:12
  industrial complex, you know, and how that is like all of these things
• 56:15
  come together and there's a lot of propaganda in these films, and that is
• 56:20
  one of my problems as someone who has you know, growing up on violent
• 56:22
  movies, etc. I've also accepted, like seen RoboCop, one of my
• 56:27
  favorite films back in the day. It's really kind of horrified to me now
• 56:30
  because RoboCop is about a fucking robot police officer. You know. It's like
• 56:35
  and knowing what police are about and how that movie was like, Yo,
• 56:37
  police are good. You know, look, the cop is doing the right
• 56:40
  thing. Robocops shooting people is the right way. That's a generation of kids
• 56:45
  who grew up who then became police officers, you know, the influences there
• 56:52
  and something like John Wick where it's like, you know, like people are
• 56:55
  like, wouldn't you do this? I'm like, no, bro, I
• 56:58
  wouldn't actually, But that's like, this is what it's saying. It's okay,
• 57:01
  somebody comes in and fucking shoot your dog. Fare fucking blow them away,
• 57:06
  and you know, you better have a gun just in case somebody comes
• 57:07
  in and shoot your dog, and you better get this done because they're gonna
• 57:10
  come in and shoot your dog. You're gonna be bared, you know,
• 57:13
  And and it's clear like that may not be the intent and that's not like
• 57:17
  we're not saying oh yeah, like, but there are people who really take
• 57:23
  this shit and the and the and the fear culture we live in where it
• 57:29
  encourages people to body type of guns, most people who would never need them,
• 57:32
  you know, because it's always like, oh, your homes, your
• 57:35
  home's gonna get invaded. Dogs better a fucking bullet. Yeah, does dragon's
• 57:40
  breath when you sh don't need that. No, you don't need any of
• 57:45
  this, ship really do. But the most part people, you know,
• 57:49
  like when you have a gun in your home, what's the like nineties and
• 57:52
  seventy five ninety percent time you end up shooting when of your own family members,
• 57:57
  well before someone ever comes to rob you. You know. That's that's
• 58:00
  the only thing, like the level of power that people like obsess over.
• 58:05
  I'm just like, I am one hundred percent sure that deer does not have
• 58:08
  John Wicks suit on. It cannot block those bullets. So you do not
• 58:13
  need that many rounds going out a second, what are you trying to bring
• 58:16
  down? Exactly? People? Let's be for real. You know, most
• 58:22
  you know, and that's what it is. And once again that goes back
• 58:24
  to why I have sometimes I have an issue with some of this stuff.
• 58:28
  And like I said, I'm not one who doesn't love action films. I
• 58:30
  also just think that if you're gonna do action films, do it. You
• 58:35
  know, you gotta do it because there is a genre. You know,
• 58:37
  It's like what we talked about, the zombie genre. You know, there
• 58:40
  is history here. Like I was trusting with somebody online the other day on
• 58:44
  Twitter and then like John Wick does thisten that. I'm like, bro,
• 58:46
  you need to see more films. He's like, I've seen all these joints
• 58:49
  and all names he had seen him and he's like, that's a different error.
• 58:52
  And I'm like, one that doesn't matter, you know, Like it
• 58:53
  doesn't matter what error your film came in. You gotta stand up to the
• 58:57
  giants. It's something came before, you see. Even more so, you
• 59:00
  had all the time. You know what that shit did do better Nigga's you
• 59:05
  know that's in the past. You got to raise the bar. Shout out
• 59:07
  to my brother combat Jack. You know what I mean. You always try
• 59:10
  to raise the bar. And I do not feel like John W four even
• 59:13
  raises the bar in its own series, And yeah, I don't think it
• 59:17
  raises the bar in its own series. I do think it's you get what
• 59:22
  you expect. Yeah, and you're gonna be satisfying. That's fine. But
• 59:25
  like if you thought you're gonna see some shit you ain't never seen before.
• 59:28
  No, no, no, not at all, not at all. Um
• 59:31
  overall, though, I again it's entertaining for what it's worth. If you
• 59:36
  are not into violence of that degree, do not see this because this ain't
• 59:43
  for you. Okay, if you are a fan of the film, or
• 59:45
  you're really into the concept of Jess as I say, it's like super Plane,
• 59:50
  super Hot, with wave after wave after wave and then also some unintentionally
• 59:54
  funny shit happening. You're gonna have a fucking blast, a blast that fucking
• 1:00:00
  I mean, I'm not gonna tell you what happened with that stairs unintentionally hilarious
• 1:00:06
  everything leading up to it to do. Everything is funny, like literally a
• 1:00:09
  comedy at that point, at that point, right, yes, everything is
• 1:00:14
  funny, even the club scene, the club scene, complete comedy for me.
• 1:00:16
  I love that villain in the club scene, the mini boss. I
• 1:00:20
  love the Juggernaut mixed with the Kingpin. Yeah, even though he was utterly
• 1:00:23
  ridiculous and made no sense at all. I thought it was great, Like
• 1:00:28
  I was entertained. I just I want more. And that's the thing.
• 1:00:30
  Like, and this is something this is not just related to John Wick,
• 1:00:35
  as I says, but this became like, especially last year, I watched
• 1:00:37
  a lot of foreign films and a lot of foreign TV, and it's something
• 1:00:42
  I've known, but it was like a rekindling of it where I was like,
• 1:00:45
  God, damn, we're getting jerked, especially when it comes to action
• 1:00:49
  films. Yeah, because I've known this, you know, it's very rare.
• 1:00:52
  Like I think the Mission Impossible series of one of the ones that stretches
• 1:00:54
  the limits of what you're doing with action and shit. But even them,
• 1:00:58
  they're doing like even though the stunts are very dangerous and very crazy, they're
• 1:01:01
  doing shit where it's it's just not on the level of what I've seen.
• 1:01:06
  Like I said, go back to Hard Boil, go back to John Woo's
• 1:01:08
  early shit, go to the Raid, Go to Athena, which is you
• 1:01:13
  know Athena is about some it's some completely different shit. There's nowhere near as
• 1:01:17
  much dumb play, but just the camera work, the cinematography and the way
• 1:01:22
  the action is captured. People are just doing shit that I don't feel where
• 1:01:25
  it's seen all our trip r Like you said, the first time I saw
• 1:01:30
  it, their action and camera shots, I'm telling you, I hain't never
• 1:01:31
  seen no ship like that. I've never seen people use a camera like this.
• 1:01:37
  I've never seen these movements. I've never seen this stylized action the way
• 1:01:40
  it's done. And I did not feel that here. And because of that,
• 1:01:45
  I've been like, Yo, we gotta do better or we gotta see
• 1:01:47
  better, and we can't just accept, you know whatever. And I feel
• 1:01:52
  like this is definitely except. I mean, I get it's the fourth in
• 1:01:53
  the series, Like, so you're gonna get what you came for, but
• 1:01:57
  well, are we going to see better going forward? Because we you know
• 1:02:00
  this series. I think they're slated to do a couple of spinoffs, ye,
• 1:02:04
  including a TV show, a TV show around the hotel and one with
• 1:02:07
  the Armists, and perhaps some characters from this that we won't spoil. But
• 1:02:13
  it seems like there might be some characters from this that will carry on.
• 1:02:15
  But on a the Armist who is really dope and yeah she's oh yeah,
• 1:02:22
  well what was that not? Mission impossible? M Bond was wasted because she
• 1:02:28
  was only in it for a second and I thought, yeah, she did
• 1:02:30
  really really well. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that actually. So so
• 1:02:34
  there might be still like a brighter future for the Wig series, considering it's
• 1:02:37
  going to continue but from a spinoff perspective, and they're going to see more
• 1:02:40
  fastest and perhaps more to the ideas and and things we said that probably should
• 1:02:46
  be explored more. You might get me that might get more of that.
• 1:02:50
  Um. I never expected to see somebody double tap with a sword that was
• 1:02:54
  like unintentionally hilarious as well. Just I'm like, what are we doing here?
• 1:03:00
  What what am I watching here? It's so that's what I mean.
• 1:03:05
  It's so comedic. I think if it's John Wick just a little bit less
• 1:03:09
  serious and like made all the dumb jokes, you know, I would be
• 1:03:13
  like all for it because it's so himself. Yeah, he seems very serious,
• 1:03:17
  but then you know, like he I ain't gonna hold you. Like
• 1:03:22
  Kalla, who was looking kind of like a little elderly at times, you
• 1:03:25
  know, woman was fighting like I could tell the years. We're starting to
• 1:03:29
  catch up a little bit. I felt that from the beginning, like the
• 1:03:31
  fund of his counter was only fifty eight, you know, and I'm pretty
• 1:03:36
  sure Donny In might be older than Counter. I'm not sure, but you
• 1:03:38
  see the difference. I mean, downing In is that dog. You know,
• 1:03:42
  he's done this his whole life. Volcano is not really you know he
• 1:03:45
  had but John Wicks specifically, you see, well, I mean the man's
• 1:03:50
  been through a lot moving he's moving kind of kind of real slow and haggard.
• 1:03:54
  I mean not keano but quick. But yeah, he's looking kind of
• 1:03:58
  haggard. Well, I mean you should see it. But I also don't
• 1:04:01
  think that the movie is really doing that on purpose. I just think that's
• 1:04:04
  just how you know. And that's what I'm saying. If he's not,
• 1:04:06
  if they're not doing that a purpose, I think you're messed up there,
• 1:04:09
  because I could he looks, he looks kind of it's time to take it
• 1:04:12
  out the pasture, my guy, Like, yeah, I mean I thought
• 1:04:15
  that, you know a little bit. Sometimes Yeah, I've been thought they've
• 1:04:20
  stretched this way too far. But that being said, I think you would
• 1:04:27
  you recommend it? Would you recommend John Wook for if you are a fan,
• 1:04:30
  if you've gone through all three you know, yes, of course,
• 1:04:32
  Like if you're not and this is your first, hell no, because this
• 1:04:36
  ain't the one like I would start You shouldn't start here. I wouldn't start
• 1:04:40
  here. I would start with the first one, and I think it'll be
• 1:04:42
  you know, much more entertained. And then three and then Paul to day.
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  Also just skip two. I don't remember that. Should or read the
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  wiki? Uh agree? If this is your first time outside, go see
• 1:04:56
  the first one. Please go catch up first, and then come see this.
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  Um yeah, just see three. Say okay, fine, I'm a
• 1:05:03
  completionist. I might look. Just go see, go find out who is
• 1:05:06
  who and why it matters. Button for punishment might be more like it,
• 1:05:10
  baby, and then come see that. You're if you're a fan, you're
• 1:05:14
  gonna be happy you got what you wanted. Yeah, and uh, this
• 1:05:17
  is gonna make chiloads of money. I don't know now it's gonna make as
• 1:05:21
  much money as it should. And when I say should, I'm talking about
• 1:05:25
  in terms of meeting back of budgets and should like that. Well, three
• 1:05:29
  was like the biggest one, you know, it made the most money.
• 1:05:30
  So I think people are here for this one now like people are hyped marketing
• 1:05:34
  this out of control. I do believe right, this is not this is
• 1:05:38
  the difference. I see this ship all over the goddamn place offine underground,
• 1:05:45
  a gun you know, Like yeah, so it's like, if you're not
• 1:05:49
  watching John Wick, what are you watching? Right? Yeah, I don't
• 1:05:53
  know people are going to see this one. Yeah, and and judge by
• 1:05:56
  the audience tracing, people enjoyed themselves thoroughly. Yeah, you know, like
• 1:06:00
  we said, I think there was moments where people were like, this ridiculous,
• 1:06:02
  and I don't think. I'm not sure if that was intentional, But
• 1:06:06
  once again, I don't know, because this isn't stupid either, even though
• 1:06:10
  they may enjoy stupid things. When my man fell off the building in the
• 1:06:14
  third one, I was like, Yo, what and are we're watching?
• 1:06:16
  It's just fast and and furious, Like I get it if it is,
• 1:06:19
  but yes, John Wick, I've said this, John Wick is his own
• 1:06:23
  fast and furious. I think at one point they said they wanted to cross
• 1:06:26
  over. Hey, hell at this point that it would fucking work, you
• 1:06:30
  know why, because fast and furious it's fucking ridiculous. It's ridiculous on a
• 1:06:33
  level of family, but it's still fucking ridiculous. I felt like from a
• 1:06:40
  gun Connor, whatever the name of the shit is slash matrix shit, this
• 1:06:45
  is what is this what John Wick is? It's supposed to just be outrageous
• 1:06:48
  and outlandish but also look cool. Um, I could have done without Tracker,
• 1:06:57
  mister nobody. Like I said, man, that ship was just in
• 1:06:59
  so just I'm sorry, I'm just going back to him now. No,
• 1:07:00
  it's wild insulting. I'm like, I feel like that that was like a
• 1:07:04
  problem like to me, like where I was like, you can't have this
• 1:07:06
  black dude in there with the dog and have no connection to Halley. And
• 1:07:11
  if you give him no connectionality, you got to give him a storyline and
• 1:07:14
  you give him nothing. I just didn't understand why. And that's how even
• 1:07:21
  the worst joke, you know, oh my name's missing Nobody, so the
• 1:07:24
  script gives me nothing, you know. It's like that's that's so like insulting.
• 1:07:28
  Man. That's where I'll say, Yo, this movie is insulting.
• 1:07:30
  You know, Missing Nobody's shared the particular with insulting. I mean where I
• 1:07:32
  was like, nah, Manna, that's nah, man, you're gone too
• 1:07:35
  far, you know, like you've gone too far, like at that point,
• 1:07:39
  dog, you can't do that, like nah, that's like you know,
• 1:07:43
  that's going back to um Last of Us. You know, you can't
• 1:07:45
  have two dumbass major villains in the same season. You can't do it twice
• 1:07:51
  dog, you know what I mean? That's dead insulting now, Like I
• 1:07:55
  get it once was too much twice now And this dude in this movie,
• 1:07:59
  it's cregeous bad. Like they give your boy Cane a whole ass storyline,
• 1:08:04
  you know, they give them mister Nobody nothing and then he made stupid choices.
• 1:08:09
  It ends with him Janey nothing learning, nothing, no point to his
• 1:08:14
  character none, none, and and cute dog, but like why who cares?
• 1:08:24
  And it's like it feels like there was something to cut out with the
• 1:08:26
  connection to Holley, But this movie is almost three hours. They cut They
• 1:08:30
  definitely cut something out. It has to be because he makes it makes no
• 1:08:33
  sense why he's there besides inserting a character in the universe that you may spin
• 1:08:36
  off and making people want to see, you know, this movie because they're
• 1:08:41
  like, oh, it has to be a connection. Like this feels like
• 1:08:45
  the old Marvel fake outs when they would show some shit in the trailer and
• 1:08:47
  it looked like Wolverine and he's like, oh my god, Wolverine's gonna be
• 1:08:49
  in you know, Avengers, and then it wouldn't happen. That's how this
• 1:08:54
  feels like, this feels like disrespectful. No, I mean this was even
• 1:08:58
  more because at least I didn't give a shit, least I gotta injur still,
• 1:09:00
  you know, like this is like nah, I Sam, like you
• 1:09:02
  know, I really was hoping for something. And then to me, at
• 1:09:05
  least the dog was nowhere near as dope as Holly's dog, Like no,
• 1:09:10
  nowhere near her dogs because she had more than one. But and there were
• 1:09:14
  yet and there was just the illest shots with them dogs and the illest sequences.
• 1:09:17
  And with this he was like, oh he's gonna buy somebody in the
• 1:09:20
  nuts again, all right, you know, oh wow, yeah it's had
• 1:09:26
  come on man, like yeah it was. He was. He was the
• 1:09:29
  mid version of mid ain't even the word bro, Yeah that man, that
• 1:09:31
  man, Like you know, I've smoked better mids than that, all right,
• 1:09:39
  ben uh anything else that that's new or nobody is gonna be when you
• 1:09:44
  get bunk weed, that's what I'm gonna be, Like, that's that mister
• 1:09:47
  nobody over there and there, I ain't smoking that shit. Shit asked nigga
• 1:09:51
  that shit got nothing to it. Ain't smoking on that, mister. No
• 1:09:58
  road niggas out here smoking on mister no body. I guess now they don't
• 1:10:01
  have a word with you, brother, all right, Um, yeah,
• 1:10:06
  I think that's about it. Oh we're done. That was it with the
• 1:10:11
  smoking on this and nobody? No, no, no, I'm just saying
• 1:10:14
  like, I just you know, because like at this point it's like ranting,
• 1:10:16
  So I just yeah, I think I think we're done. Yeah,
• 1:10:19
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• 1:10:25
  It doesn't have a extra chapter four chase. The last one was like
• 1:10:30
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• 1:10:32
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