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Ep. 80: Takeaways from Preseason Week 1 vs. Chiefs | Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Za.
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind Annie Stevens, Brian Sexton, and John Oser are
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  Speaker 2: with me today. For the first time in about seven months,
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  Speaker 2: we get to go over at Jaguars football highlights from
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  Speaker 2: a real game. They had their first preseason game on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday against the Chiefs and things looked pretty good right
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  Speaker 2: out of the gate. We're gonna start out with big
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  Speaker 2: things today as we start off with.
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  Speaker 3: Fast as our first Bay Day.
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  Speaker 2: Some of the problems last year was the slow starts
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  Speaker 2: for the team as the Jaguars tried to get things going. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this was a fast start, certainly with that new kickoff pool.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't gone.
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  Speaker 1: I looked crazy at first.
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  Speaker 2: I'm as say, Tank had a much cleaner look for
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  Speaker 2: his I thought I was supposed to Detac with a
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  Speaker 2: long time ago in mine. But it was exciting to
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  Speaker 2: be able to make a play like that.
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  Speaker 4: It was cool Again, was confidence to be able to
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  Speaker 4: be like, Okay, these kids will turn the room and
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna be.
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  Speaker 5: Ax Shine yard.
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  Speaker 2: Right Brian, We've been talking about this new kickoff rule,
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  Speaker 2: what it was gonna look like, and it was really
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  Speaker 2: exciting right from the gate.
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  Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that we knew was that
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  Speaker 4: if a guy got free, he was gonna have a
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  Speaker 4: great chance to make a play because everyone is so
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  Speaker 4: congested on the other side of the thirty five yard line.
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  Speaker 4: And listen, there were two or three times where he
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  Speaker 4: should have been tackled where he ran back to the
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  Speaker 4: middle of the field and all you saw were red
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  Speaker 4: shirts surrounding him. He made a great play to get
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  Speaker 4: to the outside. I mean, this is a talented guy,
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  Speaker 4: and we didn't get to see enough of him last year,
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  Speaker 4: but he's got the sort of body stature right. He's short,
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  Speaker 4: he's compact, he's powerful, he's quick. It's gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 4: I really, I think the league got what they wanted
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  Speaker 4: from this. There's gonna be some tweaks that they need
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  Speaker 4: to make because when you give up a return like that,
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  Speaker 4: coach is gonna go just kick it out of the
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  Speaker 4: end zone.
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  Speaker 5: We'll give it to him at the thirty yard line.
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  Speaker 4: So they're gonna have to tweak it if they want
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  Speaker 4: to keep it. But mission accomplished on that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 6: They're gonna look for a sweet spot in terms of, uh,
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  Speaker 6: where to kick the ball from certain rules in the tweaks,
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  Speaker 6: I think, you know, you could easily see the kickoff
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  Speaker 6: team try to drop a guy back to prevent long returns,
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  Speaker 6: not to start with it. So I think you're gonna
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  Speaker 6: see special teams coaches play with this because there's a
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  Speaker 6: there's no best practices with the kickoff yet. But credit
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  Speaker 6: to Parker Washington. Mean now, they've been looking for something
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  Speaker 6: from him for a while.
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  Speaker 4: But what's interesting is is that Doug Peterson told me
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  Speaker 4: on Friday he wasn't gonna do anything. I mean, they
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  Speaker 4: were only going to do the most vanilla of looks
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  Speaker 4: on the kickoff team, and on the most vanilla of
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  Speaker 4: looks they.
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  Speaker 5: Got the return.
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  Speaker 4: So when they start getting clever and creative and changing
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  Speaker 4: up the kicker and the return men and the formation,
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  Speaker 4: that's when it could.
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  Speaker 5: Get really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely something that's gonna evolve as the season goes along.
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  Speaker 2: As we saw even in the game on Saturday, things
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  Speaker 2: looked very different from the first quarter through the end
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  Speaker 2: of the game. Our second big thing today is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be clean. See any turnovers in this game from the team,
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  Speaker 2: which is an issue that we saw last year. Doug
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  Speaker 2: Peterson talked about that being one of the things he
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  Speaker 2: was focusing on just playing smart football, John, Is there
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  Speaker 2: a time to make of it?
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  Speaker 3: I know it was, you know, the starters were not
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  Speaker 3: very long.
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  Speaker 2: But to keep taking care of the football, that's that's huge.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little.
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  Speaker 6: I mean Trevor was in for two series and didn't fumble,
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  Speaker 6: which is sort of the overall thing. I don't think
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  Speaker 6: you really see much of that until the pressure's really
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  Speaker 6: on in that situation. That feels like where his fumbles
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  Speaker 6: came from in the past. But sure, better to not
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  Speaker 6: have them than to have them. And I think the
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  Speaker 6: fact that you got through the whole game with the
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  Speaker 6: team committing no turnovers, they were clean. They took advantage
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  Speaker 6: of some situations, meaning you got the return and then
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  Speaker 6: you had a point blank touchdown opportunity and you took
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  Speaker 6: advantage of it. So the Chiefs got down closer to
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  Speaker 6: the red zone, the defense stopped it. So no, you
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  Speaker 6: can't tell much, but better to see what we saw
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  Speaker 6: to see worse.
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  Speaker 5: I can tell you firsthand.
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  Speaker 4: The second half of the first preseason game from a
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  Speaker 4: broadcaster's perspective, can get really arduous, right because you've got
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  Speaker 4: second and third and fourth team guys out there and
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  Speaker 4: they're jumping off sides and they're making stupid mistakes. The
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  Speaker 4: impressive part about clean to me was that in the
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  Speaker 4: second half there weren't a lot of those. Yeah, there
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  Speaker 4: was one here or there, but for the most there
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  Speaker 4: was a situation where they had lost track of what
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  Speaker 4: Kansas City was trying to do. There was some confusion
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  Speaker 4: and coverage and Doug Peterson had to use a time
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  Speaker 4: out in the fourth quarter. That's the only one to remember.
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  Speaker 4: So the game was pretty clean from start to finish,
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  Speaker 4: and in areas that generally are murky in preseason games,
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  Speaker 4: it was a really good showing for the coaches and
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  Speaker 4: players on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Night ran That's a good point that leads into our
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  Speaker 2: final big thing, which is being consistent.
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  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson talked postgame.
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  Speaker 2: About how he didn't feel like there was a drop
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  Speaker 2: off no matter which squad was out on the field.
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  Speaker 7: And I think that's what you're seeing out there in practice.
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  Speaker 7: That's what I'm seeing anyway. And then tonight, with so
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  Speaker 7: many guys playing in this game, you just there wasn't
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  Speaker 7: really a drop off, you know, because sometimes when you
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  Speaker 7: when you get out of that first second unit, sometimes
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  Speaker 7: there's a letdown or a drop off with play and
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  Speaker 7: I didn't see that tonight. Our guys played played fast,
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  Speaker 7: they played hard. Were their mistakes, Sure, there were mistakes
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  Speaker 7: and ms and things like that that we can clean
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  Speaker 7: up this week. But you know, I think top to bottom,
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  Speaker 7: you know, the guys guys played. Credit to them, they
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  Speaker 7: played fast and they played physical.
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  Speaker 2: Brian, We've talked in the past about when the starters
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  Speaker 2: are out there's kind of a huge drop off and
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  Speaker 2: just not having that competition necessarily at every position, but
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  Speaker 2: having so many players that are kind of fighting for
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  Speaker 2: a spot. You felt like even when the second third
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  Speaker 2: string was in there, there was still a competition on
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  Speaker 2: the field.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And the word consistency comes to mind, right.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, the difference between good players who can occasionally play
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  Speaker 4: great and great players is consistency.
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  Speaker 5: And if you go out there.
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  Speaker 4: On the practice field early before any practice starts, you're
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  Speaker 4: going to see the same five or six guys. Going
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  Speaker 4: to see Trevor, you're gonna see Josh, you're gonna see Tyson,
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  Speaker 4: You're going to see Evan Ingram. Who's the best example
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  Speaker 4: of this, And what I've noticed in recent weeks, Kai,
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  Speaker 4: is that Evan Ingram, who's the first guy on the
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  Speaker 4: practice field every day is out there doing the same
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  Speaker 4: things the same way, and you now are starting to
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  Speaker 4: see other players follow him out. They've seen the clues
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  Speaker 4: that greatness has left for them to pick up, and
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  Speaker 4: they're starting to do that. I think that's one of
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  Speaker 4: the reasons why they played clean into the second half,
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  Speaker 4: why there wasn't a huge drop off from two to three,
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  Speaker 4: is because guys like Evan Ingram are showing them how
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  Speaker 4: to get it done in a consistent manner.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to make too much of the depth
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  Speaker 6: because I thought they weren't particularly deep team in twenty two,
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  Speaker 6: and they wound up being deep in the right spots.
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  Speaker 6: In twenty three, I thought they were deeper and injuries
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  Speaker 6: hurt him. So sometimes depth can mean exactly where you
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  Speaker 6: get hurt. But overall, think about it, this is Trent
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  Speaker 6: Balke's fourth year as general manager, thirt year of a
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  Speaker 6: Doug Peterson. They had to draft the last year where
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  Speaker 6: they drafted thirteen guys. It takes time in this league
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  Speaker 6: to get guys you want to get the type of
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  Speaker 6: guys you want. It does feel like what they want
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  Speaker 6: and quality is dipping a little bit further into the roster.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it didn't twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: All right, stay with us here on Jags Am.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up, we're gonna go over all of the highlights
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  Speaker 7: I just wanted our guys to execute and play hard,
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  Speaker 7: play fast, and I felt like they did that today.
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  Speaker 7: It's a new season, new faces, you know, some old
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  Speaker 7: faces out there, you know, and it's just for us internally,
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  Speaker 7: it's just a different feel. It's a different team, you know,
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  Speaker 7: a whole different year. So it's not anything about last year.
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  Speaker 7: It's just about getting better and moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: Jagg's turning the page the beginning of the season officially
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  Speaker 2: as that preseason game number one is underway. So let's
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  Speaker 2: look it back at some of those highlights. And we
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  Speaker 2: didn't have to wait long for a highlight because the
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  Speaker 2: first kickoff return from Parker Washington was a pretty good one.
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  Speaker 3: Brian. We talked about it a little off the top,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't know if we expected that right out
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  Speaker 3: of the gate, at least I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: No, I didn't expect anything like that. As I mentioned,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Doug had told us on Friday when we
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  Speaker 4: met with him for the television meetings, that they weren't
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  Speaker 4: going to do anything crazy. They weren't going to show anything,
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  Speaker 4: and he didn't expect the Chiefs would either. This was
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  Speaker 4: just a great play by Parker Washington, and this is
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  Speaker 4: what the competition committee wanted. They knew that in that
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  Speaker 4: tight area that if someone was able to get free,
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  Speaker 4: this was possible.
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  Speaker 5: And it's just a great play.
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  Speaker 3: John.
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  Speaker 2: We've been talking and Trevor even I think, pointed out
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  Speaker 2: last week he felt like Parker was having a great
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  Speaker 2: camp high stuffing there. I still don't know what he's
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  Speaker 2: doing there, but he has been having a good camp
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  Speaker 2: and to kind of see that progression in his second year,
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  Speaker 2: John's been good.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a kid who can make plays. Even when
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  Speaker 6: he didn't quite know what he was doing last year,
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  Speaker 6: he made a couple of plays when the ball was
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  Speaker 6: around him. If when he gets in the right spot
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  Speaker 6: and really incorporates himself in the offense.
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  Speaker 1: Remember, he was hurt his first return last year.
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  Speaker 6: He hurt his knee, so he really didn't get back
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  Speaker 6: and get any receptions I think until Cincinnati when Christian
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  Speaker 6: got hurt. A very limited sample size last year, so
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  Speaker 6: I don't really expect him to be one of your
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  Speaker 6: quote front line guys.
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  Speaker 1: But Brian, like we.
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  Speaker 6: Talked about, they need these second year guys to be
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  Speaker 6: guys that you don't hold your breath when it's time
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  Speaker 6: for them to play. He feels like that guy.
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  Speaker 4: He's also a guy with ability that you could craft
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  Speaker 4: a package for and he's just really talented. I do
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  Speaker 4: want to point out real quick, there were a lot
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  Speaker 4: of guys that made blocks. Tyler Lacy had a blocky
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  Speaker 4: serb Dullah, Tim Jones, Tank Bigsby. What was really impressive
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  Speaker 4: about that play, beyond Parker's just ability, was how many
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  Speaker 4: guys were down the field blocking all the way.
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  Speaker 2: So it's pretty cool to see just how wide open
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  Speaker 2: the space is because of the way they have to
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  Speaker 2: align now and just five yards apart, not kind of
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  Speaker 2: running at each other. So to see how that goes
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  Speaker 2: along with the season. Still one of our defensive highlights. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: Serubdulah getting a sack in the first quarter I believe
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  Speaker 2: as well, and partially because of the other two getting
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  Speaker 2: there first. But always good to see when you can
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  Speaker 2: get some pressure on the quarterback, even if it's Patrick
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  Speaker 2: Maholmes who's very elusive.
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  Speaker 5: He just kept coming right.
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  Speaker 4: You see him coming all the way from the far side.
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  Speaker 4: Trayvon Walker looped in from that three technique and misses
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  Speaker 4: him right, and Abdula just got off the block and
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  Speaker 4: kept playing. That's a guy with a sense for where
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback is and that's shoot legal, so he would.
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  Speaker 1: Have that well.
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  Speaker 6: Doug has talked a lot about they're going to play.
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  Speaker 6: All teams rotate their defensive line a little bit. This
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  Speaker 6: team feels like it's going to rotate a lot. It's
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  Speaker 6: one of Ryan Nielsen's things. So if Abdulah can get
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  Speaker 6: in that mix of eight or nine, we can see this.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's important for that group as a whole,
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  Speaker 6: not necessarily Abdullah, but the group as a whole to
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  Speaker 6: have gotten a little bit of pressure.
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  Speaker 1: On Mahomes in this game at some point.
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  Speaker 6: He only played what seven plays, but probably good for
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  Speaker 6: their confidence that as a group, they caused some disruption.
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  Speaker 6: It's what they didn't do enough last year outside of
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  Speaker 6: Treyvon and Josh.
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  Speaker 3: It's interesting you say that.
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  Speaker 2: I think one of the media members was saying about
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  Speaker 2: the defense that it kind of looked like a hockey
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  Speaker 2: shift at times, really players coming on and off. And
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  Speaker 2: Doug has come on the record and said he that's
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  Speaker 2: what he likes about the scheme that they're running right now,
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  Speaker 2: similar to when he was in Philadelphia, kind of utilizing
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  Speaker 2: everybody's skill set at different points so you're not getting
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  Speaker 2: as tired and you can maintain through g.
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  Speaker 4: And Ryan Nielsen and Doug both said they expected especially
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  Speaker 4: with Trey Bunn bulking up. He told us at Friday's
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  Speaker 4: two hundre eighty five pounds, that's fifteen pounds t everything
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  Speaker 4: was last year and he wanted to have his hand
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  Speaker 4: on the ground inside and that three technique on the
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  Speaker 4: inside shoulder of the guard. They didn't do enough of
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  Speaker 4: that with him. They dropped him back into coverage last year.
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  Speaker 4: That was him playing exactly the way Ryan Nielsen wanted
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  Speaker 4: him to. So it was fun to see early on
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  Speaker 4: and by the way, his eyes must have been like
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  Speaker 4: saucers early on in the game with the chance to
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  Speaker 4: hit the quarterback to just let that guy's side.
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  Speaker 5: Step in like that.
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  Speaker 2: I know we'll get there eventually. Sure he will in
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  Speaker 2: the regular season. We hope Brian Thomas junior, first round pick,
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  Speaker 2: getting his first catch of the year, kind of getting
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  Speaker 2: some experience under his belt.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think this is a great play.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll get the exact angle of it.
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  Speaker 2: But the reaction from the team on his catch right here,
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  Speaker 2: because obviously been talking about Brian Thomas Junior kind of
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  Speaker 2: getting him out of a shell, and he's definitely got
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  Speaker 2: out of the shell after this, celebrating a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: and just everybody's reaction on it is so funny. You
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  Speaker 2: can look at a different person every single time. What
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  Speaker 2: a great catch.
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  Speaker 4: It was a great catch because Joshua Williams that corner
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  Speaker 4: is hanging all over him, and what you don't see
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  Speaker 4: until you see this angle is there's a safety who's
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  Speaker 4: bearing down on him over the top. And to have
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  Speaker 4: the concentration to fight off the one defender and understand
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  Speaker 4: the other one was coming and make the catch tells
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  Speaker 4: you he's used to making big catches.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, my impression is they really like this kid, and
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  Speaker 6: he's a kid who is easy to like because he
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  Speaker 6: doesn't say a whole lot. I'm not around him the
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  Speaker 6: way players are, but I haven't gotten the impression that
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  Speaker 6: he's come in and thinks he's that guy and all
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  Speaker 6: that so, and he's good and they know he's important.
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  Speaker 6: So all of that sort of came out when he
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  Speaker 6: caught that pass out of sidelines.
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  Speaker 1: It was cool to see. I mean, this is a team.
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  Speaker 6: The wide receivers on this team, especially Ingram and David.
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  Speaker 1: Kirk, sort of define it. They pull for each other.
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  Speaker 6: In twenty two, that was a real calling card of
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  Speaker 6: the bunch, is that they really didn't care who got
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  Speaker 6: the catches. It feels like that that they're encouraging each other.
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  Speaker 6: It feels like there is a camaraderie there. I'm not
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  Speaker 6: gonna say it wasn't there last year, but it sort
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  Speaker 6: of goes up and down. It feels like it's gonna
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  Speaker 6: be back this year.
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  Speaker 2: It's very nice to see seeing everybody bond together. And
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  Speaker 2: obviously as things go with the rookie as he evolves,
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  Speaker 2: that'll be great as well. Second year player. Another one
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  Speaker 2: we want to talk about, Tank had a pretty good
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  Speaker 2: day for himself.
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  Speaker 3: No fumbles.
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  Speaker 2: As we talked about, ball security was an issue at times,
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  Speaker 2: a couple of big runsie core off and then also
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  Speaker 2: that return that he got a little tripped up on.
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  Speaker 2: But John, we know you love Tank, so it was
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  Speaker 2: nice to see for.
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  Speaker 1: Him he was not to love.
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  Speaker 6: I know he was too good in camp last year
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  Speaker 6: to be as ineffective as he was all year and
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  Speaker 6: to continue that. If you watch him, he clearly has skills.
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  Speaker 6: He clearly brings something to the table. Good for him
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  Speaker 6: to see that when the uniform was on on Saturda.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not going to overplay and say this means he's
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  Speaker 6: going to be an all Pro, but I think that
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  Speaker 6: does give him some confidence. And I would just be
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  Speaker 6: surprised if he's not a lot more of a factor
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  Speaker 6: this year, not as based on this game and just
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: based on everything they're saying about him, everything we've seen
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: from him.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Brian, I think he can matter.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: I think he's unfairly targeted with ball security issues. There
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: were other players on this team that have had trouble
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: with the ball. The quarterback last year had twenty one
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: turnovers and in his first season on the starting lineup.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Travis CTN had a couple of really costly fumbles, one
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: against the Giants here that cost him a chance to
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: win the ball game. So people said, well, he didn't
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: take care of the ball. You know what, he had
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: one fumble, right, he had to go off his hands,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: he had one fumble.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: He's a really good player.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: And the power and the speed and the versatility he's got.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: The issue with him last year was trust, right, and
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: you could say, well it was ball security not as
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: much as it was protection issues. And both Press Taylor
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: and Peterson have said this year, we trust this kid.
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: And I think even the coaches looked back and regret
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: that a little bit that they kind of went away from.
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: I get why they did it when you have a
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: player like Travis DTN and in a lot of close games,
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: it's hard to go away from the guy for a
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: guy that you want to show confidence in. But I
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: think when they got together in February, that was probably
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: an area where they said, you know what, if we
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: had to do over again, we'd probably stick with him
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: a little more. I think there's a concerted effort and
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: it seems like tanks are going to make a payoff.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: You were on him early in training camp last year.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Everyone will be on him by the time this season ends.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: He is going to be an impactful player this year.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: He's going to need to be, especially if this team
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: wants to succeed this year.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Let's talk with this catch from bether to Devin Duvernet,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: another new edition in the offseason. Didn't look he kind
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: of looked up, found the ball and I don't know
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: if it was a broken player, if that was the
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: plan all along, but to come back and get this
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: catch and then roll in and get a touchdown, it's
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: just it's nice to have the versatility from the wide
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: receiver group. They had versatility before, but just in terms
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: of being able to do different things and expecting something
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: from everybody.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Well, a couple of us.
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: First of all, CJ stood in with a hit, yeah,
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: and a other nice ball. This is NFL stuff here
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: at the end of the play, meaning the Chiefs defenders
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: you see doesn't locate the ball and DuVernay does so.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Duverne is a fifth to six year guy, been around it,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: been doing it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: Certainly, if you can get this some impact offensively out
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: of him every four or five games, huge bones.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Well, I think one of the reasons why people were
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: uncomfortable with you wall adnew leaving was because he gave
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: them something in the offense.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: Not just as a returnman.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: This is an All Pro Pro Bowl return band who
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: also clearly can give you something down the field. He's
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: gonna be a nice addition to there are more weapons
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: and if Parker Washington deva duber. These kinds of guys
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: can really give you a lyft over the course of
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: a seventeen game season.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems like Devon may give you.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: I love Jamal, great kid and mattered a great deal
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: to this team.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: You sort of had to work to get him the ball.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Ye. Uh.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: I don't know if he was a receipt well he
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: caulls him passes, but overall within the scope of the offense.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Uh. Probably didn't love when he had to be your
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: third or fourth guy.
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: During a looks like he may be a little better
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: within the normal scheme of the offense than Jamal was,
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: so uh, maybe that's an upgrade.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: He's he's fast.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Having options is good. I feel like sometimes you felt
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: maybe limited by certain things on the offense last year.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Now that there is options that you know are at
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: your disposal. That has to be big for them. And
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: then finally we're gonna do the chief's kickoff safety situation.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Doug tried to explain it a little bit as we
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: learn about this kickoff as things go, the Chief's called
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: for safety because of taking the ball back, and they
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: and and the way it's described exactly is kind of.
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: Under the old rule, this is a touchback. As soon
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: as the ball crosses into the end zone.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Under the new rules, the ball stays live. Again.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: This play is dead right now. Last year, it's still
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: live until he pulls it back in. So he gave
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: himself a safety. I think what Doug basically did was,
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: you know, I know that doesn't feel right. I don't
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: know why I need to get them not to review it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: So I'm not sure he knew exactly why. It sounds
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: like Heath and Zach had a general idea that something
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: was wrong and said, hey, challenge, you know, couldn't challenge
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: went to the official officials, got it right.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: What Doug said in the post game press conference is
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: probably the most telling thing.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Good that it happened.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: Now, and I'll guarantee you every team will be looking
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: at that in special teams meetings all week saying okay,
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: here's the first example of why this is. You know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: screwing returners. Make sure you don't do this. So this
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: teaching point for the league.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Well, Derek Prince or Generic Prince, the running back, just
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: he watched the bounce and he just walked away.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Clearly he thought that was right muscle memory. He told
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: him that was a touchback.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: It was only mchole Hardman who had the sense ability
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: to get back there and to you know, at least
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: try to down it. Otherwise Jaguars will fall on it. Right,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: the touchdown for them. You guys were on that conference
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: call last week where they went through all the rules
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: with Walt Anderson and we prepared for it on the broadcast,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: and yet I mean it was just thirty yard touchback.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Touchback comes to the twenty.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's just so many different moving parts and
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: nobody knows somebody knows them all. I don't, right, not
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: a lot of people know them all. And this is
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: going to be an ongoing.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: My last all season as we saw it, and the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: refs need to kind of consult with everybody and look
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: over things again.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: I think that's important Doug pointing out just look at.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: It, saying do you know what that one is?
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Because you can certainly see where special teams coaches will
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: play with the option of trying to have that ball
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: bounce because all of a sudden, the idea of creating
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: chaos for the returner and uncertainty in the return about.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: What's in the surefield.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: You can easily see how that could incorporate if and
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: I think Heath said it when they first drafted Cam
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: Little that he had really good control on kicks like
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: that and was able to get spin on it. I
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: didn't put two and two together. You can see why
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: from seeing that play the other night.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: By the way, something that came up I don't know
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: whether you guys noticed it after a safety, how do
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: you normally kick the ball back with a free kick
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: from the twenty yard line.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: I generally used a punter. They did not do that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: That's the first time that had happened, right, So they
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: went right to the dynamic kickoff with the kickoff from
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: the thirty five yard line. So that's a new change
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: that they didn't talk about on the conference call. And
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: those are the kinds of little.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Things that I still don't fix on side kick.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: You don't consider, well they will next year.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: We're going to see as it all goes along. Fun
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: for all of us, you guys. Coming up after the break,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: We're going to do some hot takes after our first
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: preseason game is under our belt.
• 22:04
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• 22:05
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• 22:07
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• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Welcome back games to Jagsam.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: We finally have football to talk about, actual game, real
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: game football. I know it's the preseason, but we'll take
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: we can get at this point. What are your hot
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: takes after the first preseason game, Brian, where are you
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: going with your.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Well, you know there's ten of eleven is a good night.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: The Daguars have eleven players on the roster from that
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: big franchise record third team member draft class from a
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: year ago, and ten of them played the other night.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: The only one that didn't was Anton Harrison. We know
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: he hasn't practiced with the concussion the last couple of weeks,
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: but everyone else made a play at big speed. Brenton
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Strange was on a beautiful crossing route and Mac Josie's
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: missed it right, I mean, otherwise he probably scores you,
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Sir Abdula. We talked about Tyler Lacy had a couple
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: of tackles. Even Eric Allen, who spent last year on
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: the practice squad as a safety, stepped up and made
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: place Parker Washington. You just go from you know, the
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: second all the way down to the eleventh pick, and
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: all of them are on the field, and all of
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: them made plays in the preseason.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Call it flashing.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: They show you things that you need to see to
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: believe that they're taking steps forward. They've been a major
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: storyline of training camp and as of the first preseason
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: game on Saturday night, they all passed well.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: It shows you they're fitting and you know, guess what,
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: it takes a while in this league for young players
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: to know their place, to know how to contribute. So
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: I agree with Brian. I think that's a huge storyline.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: And if you see guys like Bigsby Washington out of
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: that ten, if five matter this year, then you've got
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: six guys out of that draft class who are contributing
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: in a major way, you'll definitely take that. I went
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: with it's gonna take more than two weeks to fix
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: the running game.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: It's my way of not having.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: To say relax again because every year after the first
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: preseason game I get emails from people. You know, I
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: got one the other night. Devin Lloyd was awful. Yea,
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: and he played what five play?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I mean more than that, but point being, I think.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: Doug after the game had that proper perspective of the preseason.
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: Week one these days is so close to being a
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: practice that coaches when they come out of it, they're
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: not up and down.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: There's not the emotion because they know what it is.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: We see helmets and uniforms and think this is the
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: real thing we're watching. There's no game planning, etc. There
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: was panic over the running game. They didn't run early
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: in the game. That's not going to look right in
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: the first couple of preseason games. It's gonna take until
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: September or October for cohesion to come in.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: So well, once again, you're playing with a backup at
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: left guard, which we did all season last year. Ezra
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Cleveland didn't play because the heel injury that slowed him down.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Last week on Travis played eight or nine plays.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's a timing issue.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Force told me last week that the running
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: game thing, it sometimes takes a game or two in
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: the regular season before you understand what the guy next
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: to you is doing, especially when you have a brand
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: new starting center.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: So that's going to.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Take some time, and we'll all just take time.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I think for mine, it's a little bit of reference
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: of last year. So last season officially in the rear
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: view mirror, easy for us to say obviously a new
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: season has begun. I think we've all covered enough teams
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: where sometimes it's the same kind of team rolling themselves
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: out there. There was obviously a lot of changes and
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: coaching staff, players brought in, drafted as well. It's different,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: it feels different. You'll hear it from the players themselves.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: The locker room is different for them, and I think
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: even just coming out having a fast start showing some
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: of the issues that were there last year were at
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: top of mind even that they're addressing that, and Doug
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I think had a really poignant offseason point to himself
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: and realizing, hey, I have to play these young guys more.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: We talked about this second year players because I can't
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: do that again and just go revert back to you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: running Travis into the ground or whatever. It might be
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: different players there as well, because when Christian Kirk goes down,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: you have to expect Parker Washington to step in. And
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: he learned that maybe the hard way at the end
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: of last season.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: If you think of last year as you know, like
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: a piece of paper with a picture on it. It's
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: not hanging in the locker anymore like it has been
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: all off season, but it's kind of tucked away where
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: they can kind of still get to it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: There's still that sense.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Of what we didn't do well last year, you know,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: and not in terms of on the field, but off
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: the field, in the locker room, on the practice field.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: What didn't fit right around here, and Trevor talked about
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: that last week is that has to be a driving force,
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: but it's not in their face every day. They've changed
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: the way they do business in the locker room and
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: it was obvious in camp and obvious on Saturday night
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: that so far, so good.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: Is an awareness that it's the sixteen minute, seventeen game season.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: I think they all knew that, but I think that's
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: the thing that's in the front of their mind. It
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: feels to me like.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: A more.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: An older team, a more experienced team, a wiser team
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: of Hey, you know, whatever happened last year, we have
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: to take this one day at a time, all those
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: cliches and be pros from now until January and.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Keep it going. So it feels it feels right, it
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: feels positive.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: We'll see what happens in the joint practices, right, I
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: hope we're about to find we.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Shall say with us here on Jagsam. We'll be right
• 27:36
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• 27:59
  Speaker 7: Guy's a great he may and a great guy for
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: all you guys like listen, young black successful.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: He's single, by the way, just let everyone know he
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: is single. So if you guys need somebody, he's your guy.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Tell you that gave Davis a great wingman, great guy
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: to have in the wide receiver room with you.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: That says a lot right there. I mean, it's nice.
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: It sort of speaks what he talked about earlier in
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: the show that they like this kid. People forget when
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: they come in his first round picks that they are
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: kids and they're sort of looking around, not knowing what's
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: going on and not even really sure how to fit
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: in right like, so, uh yeah, that's a really good sign.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: It's great to see Gabe get involved as well with
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: that twenty yard That was a beautiful thrill by Trevor.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, we got joint practice coming up on
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Wednesday and Thursday, the Bucks are going to be in town.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: What are you guys most looking forward to.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I just enjoy kind of the competition, not going against
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: yourself in practice. I know Doug always says that he
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: takes these reps almost as seriously, or.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: If not more than Yeah, it's important week.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: He he really thinks that these are ones where you
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: can control what.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: You're trying to get out of it. You can get
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: a lot out of it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: And the starters won't play on Saturday because Doug wants
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: him to be getting this and then it's taken the
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: place almost of that fourth preseason game. You lost the
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: reps here matter and then you sort of use Saturday's
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: game to get a look at the guys who won't
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: get as many reps this week.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: There isn't a bigger challenge to run the football than
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Vita Vea in the middle of that defensive line. I mean,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: he is massive, quick and strong. This is going to
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: be a nice test for that interior threesome. Can they
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: move him and create some seams in short yardage running situations.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: A lot of times when you watch that stuff on
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: the practice field, you're just like, yeah, all right, great,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: you know, big guys hitting each other. This week, there's
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: some real meaning to it with him in the middle
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: of that thing.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Absolutely gonna be a lot of matchups to watch. Come
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: out to practice if you can.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Wednesday and Thursday, those are the joint practices with the Bucks.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: We'll be live outside at practice for both days joining
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: me there, so make sure you tune in with us
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: on Wednesday and Thursday.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: See then