Latest / Bussin' With The Boys / Josh Pate Is Partnering With Bussin With The Boys + BOLD College Football Playoff Predictions

Transcript

Josh Pate Is Partnering With Bussin With The Boys + BOLD College Football Playoff Predictions · Bussin' With The Boys

0:00
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to another episode of
0:02
Speaker 1: Busts with the Boys. It is episode three hundred and
0:04
Speaker 1: forty two with the one the only college football future
0:07
Speaker 1: College Football Commissioner, Joshua Pate. We go into his life,
0:11
Speaker 1: how he got to where he is at today. We
0:13
Speaker 1: talk about all the things college football. We dive into
0:15
Speaker 1: a few specific teams, and we also talk about the
0:18
Speaker 1: locker room college football. He will be with us weekend
0:21
Speaker 1: and week out during the fall for our gambling show,
0:24
Speaker 1: The Locker Room. It is going to be absolutely incredible.
0:26
Speaker 1: Also big news if you're watching this on Tuesday, My
0:29
Speaker 1: redemption pitch if you're a horrible one in Saint Louis
0:31
Speaker 1: takes place tonight in Kansas City. Your boy is going
0:34
Speaker 1: Fandle is giving away ten thousand dollars in bonus bets.
0:38
Speaker 1: All you have to do follow Fandel repost in comment,
0:41
Speaker 1: catchable or not catchable. You do those things, you'll be
0:43
Speaker 1: entered at an opportunity to share a pot of ten
0:45
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in bonus bets. This is Bust with the Boys.
0:48
Speaker 1: My name is Tara Lawan. Let's have a hell of
0:50
Speaker 1: a day. Do it be a favor, subscribe, unsubscribed, resubscribe, comment,
0:54
Speaker 1: help this algorithm, and go to BWTB dot com. If
0:58
Speaker 1: you love the merch, by the merch, get after the merch.
1:00
Speaker 1: Big hugs, tiny kisses. Let's have a hell of a day.
1:08
Speaker 2: All right, We're good.
1:10
Speaker 3: You like that?
1:12
Speaker 4: Busting with the boys, hanging with the face.
1:22
Speaker 3: Betting on the game.
1:26
Speaker 4: No woman's gonna tell us, would you can knop? Be
1:32
Speaker 4: over here, just drinking beer and making Nando Baby, I'm
1:40
Speaker 4: hanging with the Fellers, Busting with the boys.
1:47
Speaker 1: Bro Massive Week, Massive Week, Ladies, Joe could be catastrophe
1:55
Speaker 1: could be the right word. Catastrophic, catastrophic, Bust with the Boys.
2:00
Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode. It is episode three, one hundred
2:03
Speaker 1: and forty two. Bust with the Boys is presented by
2:06
Speaker 1: the one the only FanDuel Sportsbook in America's numb Won
2:09
Speaker 1: sportsbook in Sportsbook. Football is right around the corner, and
2:12
Speaker 1: while we're excited for the season to start, it's also
2:14
Speaker 1: time to start thinking about how this season will end.
2:17
Speaker 1: That's why fand will create a whole new holiday, Futures Day.
2:20
Speaker 1: Futures Day is going down Tuesday, August twenty six, and
2:23
Speaker 1: it's about twenty four hours of deals on your season
2:25
Speaker 1: long pick picks. This is the day you're gonna pick
2:28
Speaker 1: who's gonna run the division, who is taking home that
2:31
Speaker 1: MVP hardware, and who is hoisting the trophy.
2:34
Speaker 3: At the end.
2:35
Speaker 1: For one day only, every single customer gets an instant
2:37
Speaker 1: bonus bit on football future bets plus fandel dropping flash
2:41
Speaker 1: deals every three hours. They're gonna be absolutely unreal. Trust me,
2:44
Speaker 1: you do not want to sleep on these, So put
2:47
Speaker 1: in your phone, right in your hand, hell tattooed on
2:49
Speaker 1: your forehead. Whatever you gotta do. Because August twenty six
2:52
Speaker 1: is about to be a legendary day in the Future's history.
2:55
Speaker 1: Head tofanduel dot com forwards slash Future's Day to learn more.
3:00
Speaker 5: Twenty one plus and present in select states. For Kansas
3:03
Speaker 5: in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or eighteen plus and
3:06
Speaker 5: present in DC opt in required bonus issued as non
3:09
Speaker 5: withdrawable profit boost tokens. Restrictions apply, including any token expiration
3:14
Speaker 5: and max wager amount. See terms at sportsbook dot FanDuel
3:17
Speaker 5: dot com. Gambling problem call one eight hundred gambler or
3:20
Speaker 5: visit rg dash Help dot com Call one eight eight
3:23
Speaker 5: eight seven eight nine seven seven seven seven, or visit
3:26
Speaker 5: CCPG dot org slash chat. In Connecticut, Hope is here
3:29
Speaker 5: Gambling Helpline MA dot org or call eight hundred three
3:32
Speaker 5: two seven fifty fifty for twenty four seven support. In Massachusetts,
3:35
Speaker 5: visit www dot MD gamblinghelp dot organ Maryland. Call one
3:40
Speaker 5: eight seven seven eight Hope n Y. Or text Hope
3:43
Speaker 5: n Y four six seven three sixty nine in New York.
3:46
Speaker 1: Futures Futures, Futures always got to be thinking about your futures.
3:50
Speaker 1: We had the football season coming up, and this week
3:54
Speaker 1: the first episode of Our Locker Room is coming out.
3:58
Speaker 3: Thursday, Wednesday Night, Wednesday Night College Football Show. We're separating
4:03
Speaker 3: them very like, very much their separation because last year,
4:05
Speaker 3: I want to say, we combined.
4:06
Speaker 1: Them for a while.
4:07
Speaker 3: Combined for a while, and then little separation at the end.
4:11
Speaker 3: This year we are separating them fully. So we will
4:13
Speaker 3: have a college football show that'll drop on Wednesday nights
4:17
Speaker 3: and then our NFL Locker Room show that will drop
4:19
Speaker 3: on Thursday morning.
4:20
Speaker 1: And boys, this week we are filming Our Futures. You
4:22
Speaker 1: guys heard about the big news about Clay Matthews. How's
4:25
Speaker 1: now Jordan Bus suppus to get him a round of
4:26
Speaker 1: the plus just an absolute professional as well. Jeremie Clump
4:30
Speaker 1: has kind of been aligning all of these things. He
4:32
Speaker 1: has called texted, uh, sent a pigeon, sent a raven,
4:35
Speaker 1: every which way you possibly can't do. Start preparing for
4:38
Speaker 1: the locker room.
4:39
Speaker 3: That'll be amazing.
4:40
Speaker 1: And as always, joining us will be de Laney Walker.
4:43
Speaker 3: He's locked in. Laney locked in, Clay locked in. And
4:47
Speaker 3: do you want to go ahead and announce the special
4:50
Speaker 3: guests that'll be joining us for the college football we want?
4:53
Speaker 2: Do we want to wait? Do we want to Well?
4:55
Speaker 3: Today we were recording on Monday. The announcement is dropping
4:58
Speaker 3: today that the collaboration is happening. So by the time
5:01
Speaker 3: people are listening.
5:02
Speaker 1: Now, because they'll see who our guest is. Yes, that
5:05
Speaker 1: guest is not just a guest. I'm busting with the boys.
5:07
Speaker 1: He's also going to be a part of our college
5:08
Speaker 1: football show, the one, the only, possibly the commissioner of
5:12
Speaker 1: the entire college football world, eventually Joshua Paint. So those
5:20
Speaker 1: things coming out this week. We're getting the season started.
5:22
Speaker 1: It's big time. I believe it's Ireland correct a week zero,
5:25
Speaker 1: Ireland's going down. Football is officially officially back this week.
5:31
Speaker 1: It's going down. It's amazing and this whole year Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
5:36
Speaker 1: there is gonna be a whole slate for you guys
5:38
Speaker 1: that we will do our best, our absolute best to
5:40
Speaker 1: show you the schedule of what is coming out with
5:43
Speaker 1: busting with the Boys. It is going to be an
5:45
Speaker 1: amazing time. But Josh Pate, just a man of the
5:47
Speaker 1: People's got beautiful arms, got a beautiful head. That man
5:52
Speaker 1: has got a beautiful brain as well. He's going to
5:54
Speaker 1: take us to school every single week when it comes
5:56
Speaker 1: to college football, We're gonna have a blast.
5:58
Speaker 3: He's the best college football head in America.
6:01
Speaker 1: Best college football had in America, and as the best
6:03
Speaker 1: college football head in America, he had some very nice
6:05
Speaker 1: things to say about Nebraska. Did you see that?
6:08
Speaker 3: I did see that. I didn't know if we wanted
6:10
Speaker 3: to wait until he got on the bus tour we
6:11
Speaker 3: could talk. And I know we got several things on
6:14
Speaker 3: the docket involving college football. We got the twenty eighteen playoff.
6:17
Speaker 3: We got the Michigan scandal that how that kind of
6:20
Speaker 3: got solved last week. We got, you know, people putting
6:24
Speaker 3: Nebraska in their playoff runs. People are starting to find
6:26
Speaker 3: out about Nebraska a little bit.
6:28
Speaker 1: People are starting to whisper. People are starting to do
6:30
Speaker 1: what will comms been doing for the last seventeen years
6:33
Speaker 1: talking about Nebraska football. Nebraska football is no longer a
6:37
Speaker 1: team that you're just like, oh, yeah, they remember that
6:39
Speaker 1: when they were good in the nineties. Now we're talking
6:41
Speaker 1: about potential candidates for potential playoffs, Potential, potential, potentials, potential
6:48
Speaker 1: it has. If people want to talk about Connor Stallion's
6:50
Speaker 1: manifesto Willie ces manifesto, Nebraska is starting to come to fruition.
6:54
Speaker 3: That's right.
6:55
Speaker 1: What does potential mean? Will potential.
7:02
Speaker 3: Means let me stop you there.
7:06
Speaker 1: Potentially means you haven't done shit yet, but you have
7:08
Speaker 1: an opportunity to do something at the.
7:11
Speaker 3: Ceilings high, but you haven't. You haven't touched the ceiling.
7:17
Speaker 3: You put the ceilings up, the ceilings there. You gotta
7:19
Speaker 3: do the things that tap into that potential. But we
7:22
Speaker 3: have not done that yet.
7:23
Speaker 1: Potential is you see where you could go. Now it's
7:27
Speaker 1: your job to build the ladder.
7:29
Speaker 3: Potential is the capacity to develop, succeed, or become something
7:33
Speaker 3: in the future.
7:34
Speaker 1: In the future building blocks. Matt rule all those boys
7:39
Speaker 1: have been building blocks every single day in camp. Will
7:42
Speaker 1: Compton he hears the whiskers. I'm sure he talks to
7:44
Speaker 1: Eckler every single day. I walk in on, will you
7:47
Speaker 1: get get him a little stretch in our sore next
7:51
Speaker 1: weight room? What's he doing? Listen to Eckler talk about
7:54
Speaker 1: a dude a press conference. What's you do after that?
7:56
Speaker 1: Probably calls Eckler. Will Compton knows what's happening in that
7:58
Speaker 1: building all the way about a thousand miles away in Nashville, Tennessee.
8:01
Speaker 1: The rest of the world will now find out. Coming
8:04
Speaker 1: August twenty eighth, when Cincinnati takes on Nebraska. Cincinnati home
8:09
Speaker 1: of the New Heights podcast Nebraska for that week, home
8:13
Speaker 1: of the Bustle with the Boys podcast. It is going
8:15
Speaker 1: to be an epic start for the Nebraska season. What's
8:18
Speaker 1: the future look like for Nebraska?
8:19
Speaker 2: In that first game?
8:20
Speaker 1: For you will an ass whooping an ass whooping sixty
8:24
Speaker 1: to find.
8:24
Speaker 3: Out on Thursday night, a week from Thursday. I was
8:27
Speaker 3: getting juiced up about of last night. That is kind
8:30
Speaker 3: of wild and yeah, I expect a good, strong performance.
8:34
Speaker 3: I expect a very strong leg. People have been hearing
8:37
Speaker 3: the whispers been seeing the interviews with tears of Archie
8:41
Speaker 3: Wilson being homesick, being away from his family living in Australia.
8:47
Speaker 3: Apparently he's got a an absolute juggernaut of a leg,
8:50
Speaker 3: can kick it every which way, can bomb in about
8:52
Speaker 3: seventy yards. Our punter is gonna win his football games
8:56
Speaker 3: this year, and he might be the number one punter
8:57
Speaker 3: in the country.
8:58
Speaker 1: Might be the number one part of the country. And
8:59
Speaker 1: it's not just one leg. Kids do legs, both dual legs,
9:03
Speaker 1: a dual leg threat, dude. I mean, I'm excited a
9:06
Speaker 1: football season. We all know what. Everybody with their team.
9:10
Speaker 1: Everyone's a champion right now.
9:11
Speaker 2: Everyone.
9:12
Speaker 3: Everyone has a lot to be optimistic about. Uh, well,
9:15
Speaker 3: a lot of teams do. There's some that might be
9:17
Speaker 3: you know, they might be middle of the road. They
9:19
Speaker 3: might be ready for a middle of the road season.
9:22
Speaker 2: I love that.
9:22
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody ready for a middle road season, even the
9:24
Speaker 1: teams that have had great camps, And if they were
9:26
Speaker 1: to lean back a little bit and actually look at
9:28
Speaker 1: the entire team and probably realize we don't have the
9:30
Speaker 1: talent to compete for next championship. Every Division one football
9:34
Speaker 1: team thinks this is the year they shocked the world
9:36
Speaker 1: because of X, Y and Z.
9:37
Speaker 3: I don't know, hang on, time out, time out. Does
9:40
Speaker 3: everybody here have high expectations for their team this year?
9:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, Jack, you do.
9:46
Speaker 1: They don't.
9:48
Speaker 2: Horse side do and you do?
9:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
9:52
Speaker 1: We have like one of the easier schedules in all
9:54
Speaker 1: of college football, and police pull up Tennessee's schedule. We
9:57
Speaker 1: have a very easy schedule as well.
9:58
Speaker 3: They do play in the SEC as well. They do
10:00
Speaker 3: play in the SEC.
10:01
Speaker 1: That's true.
10:02
Speaker 3: SEC. What you guys have a lot of depth. You
10:05
Speaker 3: guys have more depth than the Big Ten. Huh, the
10:11
Speaker 3: SEC has more depth than the Big Ten. This is
10:15
Speaker 3: a catastrophic one.
10:16
Speaker 1: This is a catastrophicpon.
10:19
Speaker 3: So you're saying, I can be aroused about it, like
10:22
Speaker 3: the Big ten has the Natties live in the Big Ten,
10:25
Speaker 3: like the top of the top is the Big Ten.
10:28
Speaker 1: But as far as depth goes, but SEC has more depth.
10:31
Speaker 1: If Nebraska, if Nebraska pulls their weight, if Nebraska polls
10:34
Speaker 1: their weight, this year, you got Michigan, Ohio State, penn State, Oregon, Illinois.
10:40
Speaker 1: Illinois is a sleeper this year. USC Indiana was in
10:44
Speaker 1: the playoff last year, and Nebraska that's eight teams. That's
10:48
Speaker 1: a good core foundation. Now the bottom, I don't know
10:52
Speaker 1: about the bottom. Like our boiler Makers, Rutgers always seems
10:55
Speaker 1: to be a little like sneaky. Every once in a while.
10:57
Speaker 1: Maryland can be a little sneaky, but it's like but
11:00
Speaker 1: it's like, ah, Gophers are sneaky. This year's at the
11:04
Speaker 1: right now. The Minnesota Gophers. That's a sneaky bunch of boys. Yeah.
11:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mississippi State's kind of trash, but Vandy they're spicy.
11:13
Speaker 1: Right that. Kentucky's always good for some weird upsets.
11:17
Speaker 3: Missouri missoo, missoo solid.
11:20
Speaker 1: A lot of question marks around Oklahoma, like people are
11:23
Speaker 1: reeled down in Oklahoma, and now recently everyone's like, actually
11:25
Speaker 1: they might be contenders this year. It's very odd, very odd,
11:29
Speaker 1: but yeah, best on best Big Ten takes that. I
11:32
Speaker 1: think that that middle class of the Big ten has
11:35
Speaker 1: gotten stronger in the last couple of years.
11:37
Speaker 3: I think this year is it's the word potential is
11:41
Speaker 3: there hasn't done it yet, but middle the middle class
11:45
Speaker 3: in the Big Ten has a big year ahead of them.
11:46
Speaker 3: As far as Big Ten becoming an all around.
11:50
Speaker 1: When you when you look at your middle class. You
11:52
Speaker 1: look at Illinois, You're gonna look at Minnesota, Nebraska right now.
11:56
Speaker 1: You would put in that, but I see them get
11:58
Speaker 1: having a bigger year. But as of right now, Yeah,
12:01
Speaker 1: middle class USC I think I think takes another step.
12:05
Speaker 1: I think those four teams gives you a nice, healthy
12:08
Speaker 1: middle class in the Big ten.
12:10
Speaker 3: Appeel has been talking about Michigan State a little bit too.
12:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, ass I agree, Mitch. I agree.
12:17
Speaker 1: You in here, miss Carley said, Michigan State is asked,
12:20
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. I will assume so too.
12:23
Speaker 3: I've just you know, you got Iowa, Indiana.
12:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people down in Wisconsin as well.
12:30
Speaker 1: A lot of people are down in Wisconsin. They have
12:33
Speaker 1: a tough schedule, they have potential. But here's the thing,
12:36
Speaker 1: that's where that's a great full circle moment. Get us
12:39
Speaker 1: back week zero. Everyone's got potential. Everyone's out there and
12:43
Speaker 1: they believe they're gonna be a big ten sec, big
12:46
Speaker 1: twelve ACC champions. That's the exciting part of where we
12:50
Speaker 1: sit right now, in the middle of August. Everyone's hopes
12:53
Speaker 1: and dreams are alive right now. Now get to October,
12:56
Speaker 1: we're gonna start separating from the pack. We'll see who's
12:58
Speaker 1: who in the zoo when it comes college football. But
13:01
Speaker 1: right now, as we all sit here, all of our
13:02
Speaker 1: teams are winning it all. And that is the beautiful
13:05
Speaker 1: thing about sports.
13:07
Speaker 2: Juices up.
13:08
Speaker 1: And I didn't even think my dumb brain and timelines
13:11
Speaker 1: don't wally work out together. But really, yeah, a week
13:13
Speaker 1: from Thursday, I don't even fucking realize we.
13:17
Speaker 3: Will be at Arrowhead Arrowhead watching Cincinnati Nebraska. Then we
13:21
Speaker 3: will be flying to Columbus for Texas Ohio State.
13:25
Speaker 1: Texas Ohio State. Yes, And there's so much of this
13:29
Speaker 1: conversation that needs to take place in the locker room,
13:32
Speaker 1: So much of it does, but it's gonna be I mean,
13:33
Speaker 1: it's thirty to forty five minute show. So I get
13:36
Speaker 1: weary of what do we talk about here as opposed
13:38
Speaker 1: to the locker room? Should we bring people to the
13:39
Speaker 1: locker room or should we talk about it right now?
13:41
Speaker 1: It's kind of up to you guys. But the thought
13:43
Speaker 1: process going on my head is who's got more pressure
13:46
Speaker 1: on them? Texas Ohio State in this week one matchup.
13:49
Speaker 3: I personally think Texas does. I agree, I think Texas
13:52
Speaker 3: Texas does because they have an insanely talented roster sark
13:57
Speaker 3: they've been building out. I want to say a couple
13:58
Speaker 3: years ago was it two years ago? And they beat
14:00
Speaker 3: Bama in earlier in the season, when they just started
14:03
Speaker 3: to kind of like, Hey, what's Texas going to be like?
14:05
Speaker 3: In the SEC and that O line in the trenches
14:08
Speaker 3: they handled Alabama, I was kind of like, oh shit,
14:11
Speaker 3: Texas is for real this year. I feel like these
14:13
Speaker 3: last couple of years, the way Texas has been trending
14:16
Speaker 3: and playing in these big moments. With Archie Manning at
14:20
Speaker 3: the helm, I feel like they have the most pressure
14:23
Speaker 3: because they are everybody's number one going into the season
14:26
Speaker 3: in Ohio State, even though they are defending national champions.
14:29
Speaker 3: You got a new quarterback, they lost a lot of pieces,
14:32
Speaker 3: new running back room. Like, yes, they've reloaded. It's Ohio State.
14:35
Speaker 3: They can reload. They have those capabilities. Yeah, But I
14:38
Speaker 3: feel like I just think it's I think Texas has
14:41
Speaker 3: the most pressure going Yeah.
14:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I agree with you.
14:44
Speaker 1: I think arch Manning is a massive reason why Texas
14:47
Speaker 1: has the most pressure on them. This gives the highest
14:49
Speaker 1: rateed quarterback of all time. He comes from the bloodlines,
14:51
Speaker 1: all those things. Now he's finally thrust it into a
14:53
Speaker 1: starting role. He's one of those cats to look at
14:55
Speaker 1: at a Heisman already, and he doesn't have too much
14:57
Speaker 1: film on him. A lot of pressure over there. Texas
15:00
Speaker 1: is always a school that's going to have a microscope
15:02
Speaker 1: on them. They're always going to be like win is
15:03
Speaker 1: Texas Since the days of Colt McCoy. Every year it's like,
15:07
Speaker 1: is Texas back? Is Texas back? You win a game
15:09
Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl a few years ago, and you got
15:11
Speaker 1: people betting Texas is back. We're gonna do X, Y
15:13
Speaker 1: and Z, We're back, that whole entire thing. Then you
15:16
Speaker 1: start seeing them. They make the playoffs, they get embarrassed
15:19
Speaker 1: by the team that actually wins the national championship, which
15:21
Speaker 1: is Ohio State. Now, this week one matchup, Ohio State
15:24
Speaker 1: loses everybody in their defense except for two guys guy,
15:29
Speaker 1: one of them being the safety who's like one of
15:30
Speaker 1: the best players in all of college football this year.
15:33
Speaker 1: And Ohio State does have an incredible They do a
15:36
Speaker 1: great job of every single year just reloading. They never
15:38
Speaker 1: have really these valleys. It's usually just like their baseline
15:41
Speaker 1: is peaking and they always have the best wide receiver rooms.
15:44
Speaker 1: Their offenses go crazy. They lose their OC to the Raiders.
15:48
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of question marks going for them,
15:50
Speaker 1: but the pressure doesn't seem like too much pressure because
15:52
Speaker 1: they got their national championship. It's not the Big Ten
15:55
Speaker 1: yet it is a nice it's like a nice marker
15:58
Speaker 1: to see where are we at we one of college
16:00
Speaker 1: football when you're still kind of working through all the
16:02
Speaker 1: kinks everything, because the good teams. Tennessee is a great
16:06
Speaker 1: example of this. You see them, they play their first
16:08
Speaker 1: four games of the year, they're always covering.
16:10
Speaker 3: They got there.
16:10
Speaker 1: They're playing you know, the schlums, the Whoever's, and they're
16:14
Speaker 1: minus thirty five points and they're always covering over that.
16:16
Speaker 1: That's a sign of a good football team. We'll see
16:19
Speaker 1: with Texa Ohio State, but I think Texas has more
16:21
Speaker 1: pressure on them to come out of the gates firing quickly. Yeah,
16:24
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. I just can't wait for the season, man,
16:27
Speaker 1: I cannot wait.
16:30
Speaker 3: They also Ohio State also lost their DC yeah to
16:35
Speaker 3: Penn State. However, they reloaded with Matt Patricia, right, I
16:40
Speaker 3: think so, you're oh State guy.
16:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, mattess I think none on that
16:46
Speaker 1: number two pencil going crazy on that thing. But yeah,
16:51
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun, fun college football season. What else
16:55
Speaker 1: we got in the doctors?
16:56
Speaker 2: I know, it's like I want to sit here and
16:57
Speaker 2: talk like all things win.
16:58
Speaker 1: But we will have Josh eight on the bus, right,
17:03
Speaker 1: I know, we brought up me.
17:06
Speaker 3: It's just still let's just embrace all of it. If
17:08
Speaker 3: people want all these goddamn teams in the playoff, just
17:10
Speaker 3: roll them out. Twenty eight.
17:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, the twenty I love having it.
17:18
Speaker 1: I kind of like the March Madness idea of like, hey,
17:20
Speaker 1: you make it to the dance. Anything's possible now.
17:23
Speaker 3: I know, but that is it's it's it's so many teams.
17:26
Speaker 3: That's if they want to go to twenty eight. I'll
17:29
Speaker 3: be right there embracing it with them. But to JP's point,
17:32
Speaker 3: it's like you do want it. It's like seven from
17:34
Speaker 3: the SEC, seven from the Big ten, five from the ACC, Like,
17:38
Speaker 3: what are we doing at that point? Yeah?
17:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can. I can see where that we
17:41
Speaker 1: get at. The number will get a little high. I
17:43
Speaker 1: like sixteen.
17:44
Speaker 3: I do like sixteen.
17:45
Speaker 1: I like sixteen quite a bit, and I want I
17:48
Speaker 1: want championship week right in the playoffs.
17:51
Speaker 3: That's what I want. I also want I like sixteen
17:54
Speaker 3: because I want to. I would like to remove the
17:56
Speaker 3: bye week factor for the teams that are the best teams.
18:01
Speaker 1: Is that what happened? You are a blackologist, That's what happened.
18:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, If you do sixteen, then you have you have
18:05
Speaker 3: eight games all being played, one verse sixteen. When you
18:09
Speaker 3: have twelve or you have twenty or twenty four, you're
18:12
Speaker 3: gonna have to you would credit the best teams and
18:15
Speaker 3: give them a bye week, and you don't like. I
18:16
Speaker 3: just I feel strongly because in the NFL playoffs, people
18:20
Speaker 3: talk about, you know, the best teams coming off of
18:21
Speaker 3: their bye week, how they're gonna perform. We're talking about
18:23
Speaker 3: eighteen to twenty two year olds having a bye week
18:25
Speaker 3: after having some more time off. Obviously, you slash that
18:29
Speaker 3: time off after championship week and get right into it
18:32
Speaker 3: right until you don't do bye weeks, Like everybody will
18:35
Speaker 3: still have that same momentum that they had versus wondering.
18:38
Speaker 3: You know, they've been studying for finals. How do you
18:41
Speaker 3: practice them?
18:42
Speaker 1: Right? I like the bye week, but the bye week's scary.
18:46
Speaker 1: I mean you look at Oregon. They had their buy
18:48
Speaker 1: and they came out a little flat versus Ohio State.
18:50
Speaker 1: You see a lot of these teams grabbing those buys.
18:52
Speaker 1: Doesn't don't look awesome. But I just, more than anything,
18:58
Speaker 1: I want football to start right out for Championship week.
19:01
Speaker 1: I want to start right whatever December, whatever that is,
19:04
Speaker 1: and let that ride all the way Jan one, Jan seven.
19:08
Speaker 2: That's what the National Championship is.
19:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'll talk to the commissioner when he gets
19:12
Speaker 3: on here.
19:13
Speaker 1: We'll talk to the commission We'll get his opinion. We'll
19:14
Speaker 1: figure all that out. New Heights, Yeah, building around Arrowhead.
19:19
Speaker 1: New Heights are friends, our friends, our friends, our friends
19:23
Speaker 1: for now. Until Thursday, they had a big guest on
19:27
Speaker 1: their show. They had Taylor Swift on their show. She
19:29
Speaker 1: finally came out. She announces her album. Just an amazing
19:33
Speaker 1: job of rolling that out. And I believe it's seventeen
19:35
Speaker 1: point nine million views on YouTube's released last Wednesday. Million
19:40
Speaker 1: watching it live. Yeah, one point two million people watching live. Yeah.
19:44
Speaker 1: What I popped on it was one point three golf
19:47
Speaker 1: clap for New Heights. Golf clap for New Heights. That's impressive.
19:51
Speaker 1: You gotta tip the cap every once in a while.
19:53
Speaker 3: That is have they have? They grown a million subscribers.
19:57
Speaker 3: Yet when I popped on before Taylor Swift, when they
20:01
Speaker 3: announced it the night that they were like, oh, we
20:02
Speaker 3: have a huge guess and it was leaking, they were
20:05
Speaker 3: like two point five two million subscribers. Where they at
20:09
Speaker 3: right now? God, every clip that they've dropped, It's like
20:16
Speaker 3: again when they did the whole special Guests and released
20:19
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift, I like popped.
20:20
Speaker 1: On their Instagram.
20:21
Speaker 3: It was like one hour after they released and it
20:23
Speaker 3: had like seven hundred thousand likes already.
20:26
Speaker 1: I mean, catastrophic numbers.
20:31
Speaker 2: Tropic numbers.
20:33
Speaker 1: Good, good opportunity to tell you guys, if you're watching
20:35
Speaker 1: the show, please subscribe. Unsubscriber, you subscribe. We'll love to
20:38
Speaker 1: hit a MILLI right, We'll love to just get to
20:41
Speaker 1: a nice little million piece. Yeah. Let everybody else have
20:44
Speaker 1: the multimillions.
20:45
Speaker 3: We'll take the one million.
20:46
Speaker 1: We'll just keep running the ball. Just keep running the ball,
20:48
Speaker 1: keep running the ball. Stacking bricks daily, yeah, stacking bricks. Yeah,
20:52
Speaker 1: throw us throw the boys of subscribe every once in
20:54
Speaker 1: a while on Spotify.
20:55
Speaker 2: Follow Yeah.
21:00
Speaker 1: Obviously talk about this when paid gets on the bus.
21:02
Speaker 1: But I do want to just quickly address Michigan football.
21:06
Speaker 1: If that's okay with you.
21:07
Speaker 3: I would love for it to be with the commissioner here.
21:09
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll wait for the commission then we'll just wait.
21:12
Speaker 1: You guys have to look forward to that.
21:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, get the.
21:15
Speaker 1: Actual get some actual breakdown UFC three to nineteen. Yes, Mitch,
21:21
Speaker 1: do you want? Yeah, let's talk about liquid IV for
21:25
Speaker 1: a second. Boys, when we're traveling a lot this year,
21:27
Speaker 1: we talk about going to Kansas City, then we're going
21:29
Speaker 1: to Columbus, all those things.
21:30
Speaker 3: What do you need? You need a.
21:31
Speaker 1: Hydrate, You need electrolytes, and that's what we use. Liquid
21:33
Speaker 1: IV Just one stick of sixteen ounces of water hydrates
21:36
Speaker 1: better than water alone. Liquid ivs three times the electrolytes.
21:39
Speaker 1: Is the leading sports drink. It has eight essential vitamins
21:42
Speaker 1: and nutrients, always non GMO, vegan, gluten free, dairy free,
21:45
Speaker 1: and sorry free. Savor the last bits of summer boys
21:48
Speaker 1: with Liquid IV, tear poor, live more. Go to liquid
21:50
Speaker 1: iv dot com and get twenty percent off your first
21:53
Speaker 1: order with code busting at checkout. That's twenty percent off
21:56
Speaker 1: your first order with code busting buss i n at
22:00
Speaker 1: liquid ivy dot com. UFC three nineteen, Boys, hit, We
22:07
Speaker 1: finally got it right We finally got it right. That's big.
22:11
Speaker 2: We needed that.
22:13
Speaker 1: You see the parlay. I saw the parlay. Did you
22:16
Speaker 1: see my comments under your parlay, because then you would
22:20
Speaker 1: have known I saw your parlay. That was incredible.
22:23
Speaker 2: That was it? Was it plus five night nine?
22:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, lost the first one out of the gate, first leg.
22:29
Speaker 3: God shook dead immediately, would you do? Got back in
22:33
Speaker 3: the fight, got back back in the ring. Four legger
22:37
Speaker 3: in credit to obviously Clay Matthews, somebody you know before
22:42
Speaker 3: the fight start, Hey, who you liking?
22:43
Speaker 1: What are you feeling? What's the parlay? Who's got we swinging? Yeah?
22:48
Speaker 3: And he gave me that five legger. We died right away,
22:50
Speaker 3: but we got back in it, and look we turned
22:53
Speaker 3: it around. Came out on top. Coms out, dude, hamzat,
22:58
Speaker 3: coms out, whatever you want to call, whatever you want
22:59
Speaker 3: to call that motherfucker dog is insane. I love it.
23:06
Speaker 1: Did you watch the fight?
23:07
Speaker 3: No?
23:08
Speaker 2: I fell asleep. I fell asleep. So I was just
23:10
Speaker 2: hoping for you to a little bit.
23:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Comza comes out? Is that how you say
23:15
Speaker 3: the is it? Hamza Hamza hamzad and drickis Yeah.
23:22
Speaker 2: There were comments on the YouTube that people are making fun.
23:24
Speaker 3: Of They were on my ass for saying Driscus, which
23:28
Speaker 3: I understand.
23:29
Speaker 2: But.
23:31
Speaker 3: Buddy, this fucking performance by Hamzad like stink on ship.
23:39
Speaker 3: Bro I'm saying, the dude is smiling right when Bruce
23:42
Speaker 3: Buffer does his thing. They get to the middle, Hamzad
23:45
Speaker 3: is like ready to go, and so is Drickis. He's
23:47
Speaker 3: ready to go defend his belt again. Hell of a fighter.
23:51
Speaker 3: Drickis is a stud and Hamzad is sitting on the
23:55
Speaker 3: other side and they're both kind of crouched down, and
23:56
Speaker 3: Hamza's just smiling knowing that he's gonna run through this
24:00
Speaker 3: cat and every round because it went all five within
24:04
Speaker 3: thirty seconds. And I'm saying thirty seconds because in round
24:08
Speaker 3: four it took hams out thirty seconds, but within like
24:10
Speaker 3: fifteen seconds. Every round, Hamzad's got this motherfucker on the ground,
24:15
Speaker 3: punishing him, just just going after him. I'm just smothering him,
24:20
Speaker 3: dominating him, doing whatever he wanted to him. Was trying
24:24
Speaker 3: to like, was trying to progress, and he crucified this
24:27
Speaker 3: man like five times. Do you know what a crucifix is?
24:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Jesus died one, Yeah, what Jesus died? Yeah?
24:34
Speaker 3: But he's got, he's got drikis where he's like laid
24:36
Speaker 3: out over his body. He's controlling one arm in landing
24:40
Speaker 3: shots with his left hand, and his other arm is
24:43
Speaker 3: between Hamza's legs where he's got him crucified out on
24:46
Speaker 3: the map. He did that to him four or five times.
24:48
Speaker 3: Did you watch it, Jp? You were at the that's
24:50
Speaker 3: where you had the wedding. Did anybody else watch this
24:53
Speaker 3: fight anniversary?
24:54
Speaker 2: Fuck?
24:55
Speaker 1: It's okay, keep going, keep going, don't let that, don't
24:57
Speaker 1: let the derail you that you forgot.
25:00
Speaker 3: I want some It's like I want to play off
25:02
Speaker 3: somebody in here to just how dominating of a performance.
25:05
Speaker 3: This was a lot of people thought the fight was boring.
25:08
Speaker 3: I like to those minds that want excitement and one
25:11
Speaker 3: action the whole time. I can understand why I was boring,
25:14
Speaker 3: because again, Hamsat's taking him down every round and just
25:17
Speaker 3: smothering this guy. But it's all like JP knows what
25:21
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. What positioning in MMA is everything, and
25:26
Speaker 3: Drinkis is a hell of a fighter. So a lot
25:27
Speaker 3: of the times Hamsat's smothering him and not giving him
25:31
Speaker 3: a lot of space, and Drinkis is doing a good
25:33
Speaker 3: job of staying close to him because he knows he's
25:35
Speaker 3: in fucking trouble with this motherfucker. Yeah, so I can
25:38
Speaker 3: see where he's boring. But the wrestling clinic and masterclass
25:41
Speaker 3: that Hamsa put on is insane to me. This is
25:46
Speaker 3: it's it's when people talk about wrestlers coming in and
25:49
Speaker 3: being able to dominate a match, but usually the skill
25:51
Speaker 3: level has gotten so good in the UFC to where
25:53
Speaker 3: wrestling is not the is not the end all be all.
25:56
Speaker 3: Like everybody's got skill set in Brazilian jiu jitsu, Taekwondell
25:59
Speaker 3: fuck and all the different mixed martial arts, and they
26:03
Speaker 3: got black belts and everything, and so these guys are
26:06
Speaker 3: able to their takedown defense is really good to where
26:08
Speaker 3: they can either keep them on their feet or they're
26:10
Speaker 3: very good on the ground. This dude, Hamzat is like
26:13
Speaker 3: it's like back to when MMA was starting to blow
26:16
Speaker 3: up and wrestlers were dominating it. Homsad is like it's
26:19
Speaker 3: like swinging that way in his weight class with this
26:22
Speaker 3: individual because he is so fucking good at wrestling. I'm
26:26
Speaker 3: saying every time after the third round, Drakes is sitting
26:29
Speaker 3: over there in his corner and I'm just like, at
26:32
Speaker 3: this point, what do you even say to this man
26:34
Speaker 3: other than I don't know what to fucking do. Like
26:38
Speaker 3: the dude's gonna say fight and he's gonna come out.
26:41
Speaker 3: He's taking my ass down no matter what I do.
26:45
Speaker 3: And Drakes is like trying to keep his lies and
26:47
Speaker 3: trying to find his shots. But he gets one flinch
26:49
Speaker 3: and boom double he's on his ass again. And he's
26:52
Speaker 3: so strong he gets him there. Look at this crazy
26:58
Speaker 3: like he's so good and strong that he truly couldn't
27:01
Speaker 3: do anything.
27:02
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're this guy, you got to post
27:04
Speaker 1: that just for the just for the meat pick, like
27:06
Speaker 1: that's a that's a nice bull you boys got on there.
27:08
Speaker 2: But he's just getting tossed around the yard the whole time,
27:10
Speaker 2: the whole time.
27:12
Speaker 3: How many a time, how many takedowns, how many takedowns
27:15
Speaker 3: were attempted? I want to say there was one that
27:17
Speaker 3: Drick has fought off one time. But Hamza white on
27:22
Speaker 3: Rice got.
27:23
Speaker 2: On his ass again.
27:24
Speaker 3: Yesstily going and so strong to where Hamzat's extended on
27:29
Speaker 3: the double lake and he's got a fighting chance to
27:32
Speaker 3: scramble and get out of it and make it interesting.
27:34
Speaker 1: But again the strength of this motherfucker is crazy.
27:38
Speaker 2: This post has control time was twenty one minutes forty seconds,
27:42
Speaker 2: twelve takedowns, five hundred and twenty nine strikes.
27:46
Speaker 3: Well say that control time again.
27:48
Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes, forty seconds.
27:50
Speaker 1: Twenty almost twenty two minutes of control time out of
27:53
Speaker 1: the twenty five that they fought. That's fucking wild.
27:58
Speaker 3: Like if him just being on top of him and
28:00
Speaker 3: again it's like you wanted to see him. He got
28:02
Speaker 3: him full mounted once. But dricis again he's he's the
28:05
Speaker 3: fucking defending champion. He's defended his belt. He's a great fighter.
28:09
Speaker 3: He had him, he had him, Hamzat mounted him, and
28:12
Speaker 3: Dricus got out of it. He was getting out of
28:14
Speaker 3: situations where it was getting dangerous for him. But as
28:17
Speaker 3: far as like getting out of the control of this
28:20
Speaker 3: psychotic yeah, Augistanian, I don't fucking know, dude, different fucking.
28:29
Speaker 6: Sounds like him and bow Nickel need to have a
28:32
Speaker 6: good old fashioned wrestling match.
28:33
Speaker 3: And Hamzat, I think will control this man anybody again,
28:40
Speaker 3: It's like there when there's a good wrestler in fighting.
28:43
Speaker 3: Fighting has gotten so good to ward. Takedown defens is
28:46
Speaker 3: a lot better. You're standing on your feet. The wrestler's
28:49
Speaker 3: got to learn how to strike.
28:51
Speaker 1: Uh.
28:51
Speaker 3: The guys who are not wrestlers, they're very good on
28:53
Speaker 3: the ground or they might have you know, they might
28:55
Speaker 3: be very comfortable in their back. This dude is different.
29:00
Speaker 3: It's Dagistan dude, and people are talking about like, oh,
29:03
Speaker 3: he just laid on him like hams out the entire
29:06
Speaker 3: times trying to work for better positioning, like you know,
29:08
Speaker 3: get trap his knee down on his elbow to to
29:11
Speaker 3: try to reposition and get maybe in a better mount position,
29:14
Speaker 3: get him into a better like what is it called
29:16
Speaker 3: when on the side the not the side guard, but
29:18
Speaker 3: a side mount, side mount. The whole crucifix thing. It's
29:22
Speaker 3: like DC Daniel Cormier was doing a great job of
29:25
Speaker 3: basically the entire time trying to educate everybody on like, Okay,
29:28
Speaker 3: here's how you can have a better crucifix having his
29:30
Speaker 3: knee right above his elbow, because the whole time he
29:32
Speaker 3: was crucifixing him, he had it in between his legs,
29:34
Speaker 3: so he couldn't get that position to where says he's
29:37
Speaker 3: got it between his legs. He's just got these little
29:39
Speaker 3: shot stories just pointing him and that's where it's boring
29:41
Speaker 3: because Hamzaut wasn't able to like keep his elbow on
29:44
Speaker 3: the ground because Drick is obviously held a fighter wasn't
29:48
Speaker 3: allowing him to. But if he was able to pin
29:50
Speaker 3: his elbow on the ground, he's able to drop bows,
29:53
Speaker 3: He's able to land shots on him.
29:54
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, more catastrophic.
29:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, stuff that people would like to see. Yeah, more catastrophe.
30:00
Speaker 3: More catastrophe in this fight. Catastrophe, every catastrophe everywhere.
30:04
Speaker 2: Yeah.
30:05
Speaker 3: But uh, it was like I was just in all
30:08
Speaker 3: watching the entire fight, watching how dominating of a performance
30:11
Speaker 3: this was from somebody who wasn't the champion going for
30:14
Speaker 3: the belt and was just having his way doing whatever
30:16
Speaker 3: he wanted with drinkas Jesus Christ. So he's gonna be
30:19
Speaker 3: champed for a while, I think.
30:21
Speaker 6: So he just has to the only problem with him
30:24
Speaker 6: going into it was like his health. You seem like
30:27
Speaker 6: because he got sick, he had to like retire for
30:28
Speaker 6: a little bit. Some of the weight cuts are giving
30:31
Speaker 6: him issues. So if he can dial that in, sounds
30:34
Speaker 6: like there might not go anywhere. There might not be
30:37
Speaker 6: another human being.
30:37
Speaker 3: May JP when we get off the bus, you need
30:40
Speaker 3: to go drop on YouTube and just watch that fight.
30:42
Speaker 6: It was like, were you trying to give examples? I
30:45
Speaker 6: see you got the bruise on your knee.
30:47
Speaker 3: That's that's your boy was tubing over the weekend tube
30:50
Speaker 3: a couple I almost told my goddamn labor, you forget, uh,
30:57
Speaker 3: you forget what tuban can do to your body, like
30:59
Speaker 3: when you get extended like this and you're trying to
31:01
Speaker 3: like hang on and you fall off and just I
31:03
Speaker 3: fucking almost lost.
31:04
Speaker 1: My entire arm. You've had that whole thing stsch up,
31:06
Speaker 1: haven't you.
31:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, twelve anchors all the way around. Twelve anchors o'clock
31:10
Speaker 3: looks like twelve to twelve. That's how much damage was
31:13
Speaker 3: in my shoulder.
31:13
Speaker 1: Got to fix back in college.
31:16
Speaker 3: But I was always I was, Yeah, I was always
31:18
Speaker 3: it was a decent little psychopath on the tube growing up.
31:21
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the two barrels the tube is like
31:24
Speaker 1: boys to men, like how willing are you if you're
31:27
Speaker 1: willing to put the thumb up for the extra speed
31:28
Speaker 1: on the tube? Yeah, if you're willing to keep that
31:31
Speaker 1: thumb up, but like slide me to the side of
31:33
Speaker 1: the boat because ay and also tubes have hit a
31:37
Speaker 1: new level of science the way these things. You see
31:40
Speaker 1: the ones that get airborne. Now they have like a
31:41
Speaker 1: little if you get a boat going fast up and
31:44
Speaker 1: actually there's ones that will go like ten feet in
31:46
Speaker 1: the air and you're like a damn kite. So boats
31:50
Speaker 1: and tubes have gotten better. Boats and tubes are now crushing.
31:54
Speaker 3: This was a little more difficult. Mich Michigan speak to
31:57
Speaker 3: it too. This one had it was a doughnut tube,
32:00
Speaker 3: so it's like a bigger and it had it had
32:02
Speaker 3: a you know, I had the circle cut in the middle.
32:05
Speaker 3: It seems like you had a that was a flat tube. Yeah,
32:07
Speaker 3: with the wings. That's a fun one right there.
32:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and me and my buddy Gabe got got launched.
32:14
Speaker 2: But we need to go the boys need to get
32:16
Speaker 2: on a boat and go tube.
32:18
Speaker 3: Go tube.
32:19
Speaker 1: Gotta get tube. He doesn't like the idea of tube.
32:21
Speaker 3: And see I'm trying to get it is like I
32:27
Speaker 3: got off the tube and I was just reminded of like, yeah,
32:30
Speaker 3: this isn't who's driving the boat when you're tube not
32:32
Speaker 3: young again. We use this cat shout out seth. But
32:36
Speaker 3: there's an app called like get my Boat or.
32:39
Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah, to where you can you know,
32:43
Speaker 1: you just pop on there.
32:44
Speaker 3: You find a boat that you want, you have the
32:46
Speaker 3: not the pilot, the captain. And he had all the
32:49
Speaker 3: bells and whistles.
32:49
Speaker 2: He had a little wakeboard for surfing.
32:53
Speaker 3: Uh, he had the tube. He had skis if you
32:55
Speaker 3: wanted a water ski, he had all of it. We
32:58
Speaker 3: just ripped around for like I think it.
32:59
Speaker 1: Was four hours. I think. So you know you know
33:05
Speaker 1: what it is, you'll just put it in the GPS.
33:06
Speaker 1: Man and just shows up, shows up right apart what
33:10
Speaker 1: you're told.
33:11
Speaker 3: Man, no doubt.
33:12
Speaker 2: Preach kid, preach, where.
33:13
Speaker 3: Are we going today? Put in the maps, the maps.
33:17
Speaker 1: Just blind driving man, this out there ripping around when
33:20
Speaker 1: you're tubing. Who's the captain of your ship? Seth oh,
33:24
Speaker 1: seth so seths the guy he just goes on.
33:25
Speaker 3: Your captain shows up. He had a beautiful, beautiful truck.
33:29
Speaker 3: I complimented on the on the truck platinum hmmm.
33:33
Speaker 1: And uh yeah.
33:34
Speaker 3: He had this little this little boat, this speedboat, whatever
33:37
Speaker 3: the hell kind of boat it is. And he just
33:39
Speaker 3: took us out, took us down on the water for
33:40
Speaker 3: like four hours.
33:41
Speaker 1: I would love to get a bustle with the boys tube.
33:44
Speaker 1: But the thought of like I picture you and me
33:46
Speaker 1: on the tube and then these boys behind the helm.
33:50
Speaker 1: We're not living, we're not getting we're not gonna make
33:52
Speaker 1: it out.
33:52
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we'll start.
33:54
Speaker 1: Hitting with the thumbs down.
33:55
Speaker 2: You got to slow down, and then you feel it
33:56
Speaker 2: going up a little bit.
33:58
Speaker 1: What'd you say, Jackson laughing us off his little his phone.
34:01
Speaker 1: We're just moving around getting tossed.
34:03
Speaker 2: Not in reality.
34:04
Speaker 7: I think I'm probably the only one who's legally allowed
34:06
Speaker 7: to drive this boat because in Tennessee after nineteen ninety eight,
34:09
Speaker 7: you have to have a boater's license, really, and I
34:11
Speaker 7: have one, but I would fuck your shit up.
34:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
34:15
Speaker 7: But that's just that's generational because that's how dads do
34:18
Speaker 7: That's how my dad did it. It's like, yeah, yeah,
34:20
Speaker 7: if you're not throwing guys around, then it's like, what
34:22
Speaker 7: are we doing.
34:23
Speaker 3: That's a Southern boys bar for a little bit, and
34:25
Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, they got it, they got a decent
34:27
Speaker 3: let's crank it up on them.
34:29
Speaker 7: I will say, though they're feeling a little too confident
34:31
Speaker 7: bat if YouTube. After the age of like let's say
34:33
Speaker 7: like twenty three, twenty four, you realize how sore your
34:36
Speaker 7: body is.
34:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, it's no shiit same tubed in a minute.
34:41
Speaker 2: It's not got it too that grip strength too.
34:45
Speaker 7: Yeah, that crazy man will be in shambles for the
34:49
Speaker 7: next few days.
34:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, my buddy he had a boat. What the what
34:53
Speaker 1: is this? I thought that was Mitch. My buddy had
34:56
Speaker 1: a boat and it was like one of those tubes,
34:57
Speaker 1: but I had like a back to it, like a couch,
35:00
Speaker 1: So me and like two of my buddies would sit
35:02
Speaker 1: there and kind of it was kind of just nice.
35:04
Speaker 1: But then then then the dad would kind of be
35:05
Speaker 1: like they've been on this for too long, yeah.
35:07
Speaker 3: And would just rip us around. Good r I P
35:09
Speaker 3: P J.
35:10
Speaker 2: Man, he would fuck us up on that tube.
35:12
Speaker 7: Is he dead?
35:13
Speaker 2: Yeah? I said, man, I think that's it. Yeah. So
35:19
Speaker 2: ours was ours was blue. Ours was blue.
35:20
Speaker 3: Those ones get lost and you. I haven't been on
35:23
Speaker 3: one of those, but I feel like you feel vulnerable
35:24
Speaker 3: hitting the.
35:25
Speaker 1: Turn, just sitting up, getting moved around.
35:30
Speaker 2: God.
35:30
Speaker 3: I told Seth too before. He's like, you feel pretty
35:33
Speaker 3: confident tube, And I said, I used to double back
35:35
Speaker 3: in the day.
35:35
Speaker 1: Go ahead, you can rip it up a little bit. Yeah.
35:37
Speaker 1: He kind of got me off on.
35:38
Speaker 3: The first the first big turn and uh, he drove
35:41
Speaker 3: back over. I was like, all right, yeah, I've lost
35:43
Speaker 3: a step.
35:46
Speaker 1: To me.
35:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, like it's it's Charlie, it's her family.
35:52
Speaker 1: Like what am I gonna What am I gonna do? Yeah,
35:54
Speaker 1: rude Charlie. Charlie tube was rude.
35:56
Speaker 3: But again it was like a we had like a
35:58
Speaker 3: donut tube. So I felt a little too big, like
36:01
Speaker 3: rubbing like below me. I just didn't feel comfortable like
36:06
Speaker 3: trying to maneuver my own body around her.
36:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which.
36:14
Speaker 3: Is tough because it's like, you know, yeah, like you
36:17
Speaker 3: can you can hit the side a little bit, but
36:20
Speaker 3: when you're held on the straight away, you know how
36:21
Speaker 3: you like to just kind of like lay on your
36:23
Speaker 3: stomach to let your your arm strength like regain its rest,
36:26
Speaker 3: like give your grip a little rest. And when you
36:29
Speaker 3: have the hole cut out in the middle, it's kind
36:31
Speaker 3: of just hard to hard to get comfortable. Then when
36:34
Speaker 3: you're climbing up, it's like you've got to balance on
36:36
Speaker 3: that tube part versus just being on a flat tube.
36:38
Speaker 3: You can just get up on your knees and you're
36:39
Speaker 3: engaging core. How do you get some rest?
36:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you get some rest? That looks fun? Yeah,
36:46
Speaker 1: that see that that that'll fuck us up.
36:49
Speaker 3: That's a squad one.
36:50
Speaker 1: That's like the thing, you know, the thing that the
36:52
Speaker 1: park as a kid, where it was like the big
36:54
Speaker 1: circle and you'd sit in it and then you'd spin
36:55
Speaker 1: the middle of the wheel and then kids the velocity
36:58
Speaker 1: would just take the kids out. One is that a
37:01
Speaker 1: Merry go round, But it's like the it's like this,
37:05
Speaker 1: it's like a blue thing and it has seats and
37:08
Speaker 1: then there's a pole in the middle with like a
37:09
Speaker 1: disc and you rotate the disc and it.
37:11
Speaker 3: Rotates all the kids.
37:13
Speaker 1: Then everyone's like you could hold on the longest and
37:16
Speaker 1: then it always goes so fast. At the smallest kid,
37:19
Speaker 1: you know, he just gets just sacrificed like a lamb,
37:21
Speaker 1: Like he just shoots out five six feet.
37:24
Speaker 3: We'd be doing that with just a regular you know, saucer.
37:26
Speaker 3: One where it's just got the rail in there and
37:28
Speaker 3: you just got to hold onto the rail and somebody's
37:29
Speaker 3: just psychotically spinning and you're just like hanging on.
37:32
Speaker 1: To the rail.
37:33
Speaker 2: Yeah.
37:34
Speaker 1: You see the ones where they take like a they
37:36
Speaker 1: get like a quad and they get like a string
37:38
Speaker 1: and tie it to it and then they just take
37:41
Speaker 1: off and you see the people just get ripped out
37:44
Speaker 1: of there. That shit is that sh it's too much?
37:47
Speaker 1: Do we have we have big news. I have redemption coming.
37:50
Speaker 1: If you're watching this on Tuesday today Kansas City, I'm
37:54
Speaker 1: throwing out the first pitch to Will Compton. Big redemption
37:58
Speaker 1: are fans at FanDuel. They're giving away ten thousand dollars
38:04
Speaker 1: in bonus bets. Ten thousand dollars in bonus bets, truly
38:08
Speaker 1: on if I have a catchable or not catchable throw,
38:11
Speaker 1: which is hilarious and disrespectful all at the same time,
38:14
Speaker 1: because a lot of people would be like striker ball,
38:17
Speaker 1: we can kind of assume it's gonna be a ball.
38:19
Speaker 1: It's really how much does Will have to move his
38:21
Speaker 1: body with that tight back to catch the ball?
38:23
Speaker 2: That I think?
38:24
Speaker 1: Do we know that for sure? I believe yes, I
38:27
Speaker 1: don't I can ever say for sure. No guarantees.
38:29
Speaker 3: You have to figure out the rules.
38:31
Speaker 1: My unders catchable or not catchable?
38:35
Speaker 3: But yeah, given away, Yeah, ten thousand dollars in bonus bets.
38:38
Speaker 3: So you picked the boy throws catchable ball or not.
38:41
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, go ahead and bet catchable.
38:44
Speaker 1: I've been putting in some work I've been getting after it.
38:47
Speaker 1: It seems like every damn day. I bug you every
38:49
Speaker 1: single day when we're in the office. Let's go get
38:51
Speaker 1: a game of catch in. Even Will's in the middle
38:53
Speaker 1: of working, he's doing before the dad stuff. He's got
38:55
Speaker 1: his note pad out, he's playing on his iPad, and
38:57
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I need you to come out and
38:59
Speaker 1: get this me real quick. So we're putting in the work.
39:02
Speaker 1: We've done some meditating, we does some visualization. I think
39:05
Speaker 1: this fuck it this week literally happens tomorrow. But maybe
39:09
Speaker 1: tomorrow before we go, we go get on a diamond
39:11
Speaker 1: real quick. You know what, fuck it, We're not doing that.
39:13
Speaker 2: I'm going in. I'm a raw dog in this grip
39:16
Speaker 2: and rip. It's time.
39:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hay's in the barn. Get a couple of good
39:20
Speaker 1: ones this afternoon. Five to ten throws. Just feel it,
39:24
Speaker 1: just feel it, put it in there and let's make
39:27
Speaker 1: a catch able ball.
39:28
Speaker 3: The Hayes not in the bar until you get out there.
39:31
Speaker 1: The work is well. When yeah, when you go to
39:34
Speaker 1: play a football game, you still got to play the game.
39:36
Speaker 3: But Hayes the barn.
39:38
Speaker 1: Goes.
39:38
Speaker 3: Will we talket the preparation again. It's like, we got
39:42
Speaker 3: to get there early so you can feel the stadium.
39:45
Speaker 1: There's still some work to be done there. Yeah, but
39:48
Speaker 1: do when I go home? Am I out there playing
39:50
Speaker 1: with my kids right now? No, I'm I'm icing my shoulder.
39:53
Speaker 1: I'm sitting criss cross Apple Sauce in the corner of
39:55
Speaker 1: our house. I got meditation music going. I'm doing deep breaths.
39:58
Speaker 2: That's what's happening when I'm at home, right My.
40:00
Speaker 1: Kids know Daddy's got to make things right. Yes, I've
40:03
Speaker 1: dishonored their name and it's time to make it right.
40:06
Speaker 1: Ten thousand dollars bonus bets. We will have more details
40:09
Speaker 1: on that follow us. On socials busting WTB Taylor Lawan
40:12
Speaker 1: seventy seven underscore w. Compton fifty one, is that it.
40:16
Speaker 3: No underscore, will Compton underscore.
40:18
Speaker 1: Will Compton all socials. So that's what we got going on.
40:22
Speaker 1: That's what we got going on. Delaney will be with us,
40:24
Speaker 1: Delany's coming. Gotta have Delaney out there. Yeah, which also
40:30
Speaker 1: I played catch at Delaney last week, and I think
40:33
Speaker 1: he'd have trouble on the mount and just catching in general,
40:36
Speaker 1: him holding the glove in his hand just seemed like
40:38
Speaker 1: very unnatural for him. He was looking awkward out there.
40:41
Speaker 1: He was looking a little awkward out there, and that's
40:42
Speaker 1: coming from me. That's coming from me in the light
40:46
Speaker 1: of baseball. We have baseball jerseys BWTB dot com. Go
40:51
Speaker 1: find those there. It says tier one in the back.
40:53
Speaker 1: If you've watched any of the socials of me throwing
40:55
Speaker 1: the ball, you see me wearing that jersey. Feel good,
40:57
Speaker 1: look good, play good. That's what we are going there
41:00
Speaker 1: at BWTV dot.
41:01
Speaker 3: Com WTB the Live Show again. We will be in Linked,
41:04
Speaker 3: Nebraska September nineteenth doing a live show before the big
41:08
Speaker 3: game Ischig, Nebraska on September twentieth, but you can get
41:10
Speaker 3: those tickets at BWTV dot com. It will be at
41:13
Speaker 3: the Rococo Theater and Linked, Nebraska on Friday Night. Special guests, food, drinks,
41:19
Speaker 3: fun banter, getting the juices flowing before giveaways, the trophy game,
41:24
Speaker 3: the bust and Bowl.
41:25
Speaker 1: God, a lot going on, man, a lot going on. Catastrophe.
41:33
Speaker 2: There's so much more I want to talk about, but
41:34
Speaker 2: I feel we should wait.
41:35
Speaker 3: I know the college football, the football, So it's just
41:38
Speaker 3: knowing that football's back just has us all so excited
41:40
Speaker 3: and it's starting to you start to feel it like
41:44
Speaker 3: when you're driving to work, when you're consuming your content.
41:48
Speaker 3: Football is truly there's games getting played this weekend.
41:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, games getting paid this weekend. NFL. James Cook, he's
41:56
Speaker 1: holding out a little bit of the Bills. He just
41:57
Speaker 1: got paid forty eight million dollars. He's locks dot two
42:00
Speaker 1: smoking barrels for the Bills to make that final push.
42:02
Speaker 3: Get over the hump.
42:03
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson right now with the Bengals, he's saying, I
42:06
Speaker 1: don't want to play for y'all anymore.
42:08
Speaker 2: You got to pay me. I'm looking at Max Crosby.
42:10
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, TJ. Watt, I want that type of money.
42:13
Speaker 1: Their first round pick goes from his holdout. He almost
42:15
Speaker 1: went back to A and M. What's gonna happen with
42:17
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Their defense wasn't great last year, but their
42:20
Speaker 1: offense was amazing. Dude, It's an exciting time of year,
42:24
Speaker 1: an exciting time.
42:26
Speaker 3: So that Trey Hendrickson's on the Yeah, that's what we
42:29
Speaker 3: were just.
42:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of teams. Yeah, there's a lot
42:33
Speaker 1: of teams out there that so Will brought up a
42:35
Speaker 1: good point. Trey Hendrickson, he's very upset. He wants to
42:38
Speaker 1: get paid. He looks at Max Crosby, TJ Watt, Miles Garret,
42:41
Speaker 1: He's like, I want to get paid that much. The
42:43
Speaker 1: first round pick. He was at A and M thinking
42:45
Speaker 1: about going back to college. But now he's back in
42:47
Speaker 1: so really think is this a viable option? Get rid
42:49
Speaker 1: of Trey Hendrickson. But now Trey Henderson. You got the
42:52
Speaker 1: Cowboys calling, you got the Titans called, you got the
42:54
Speaker 1: Raiders calling, You got a whole bunch of teams calling
42:55
Speaker 1: saying we want this salty white cat on our team.
42:58
Speaker 2: Did you about Trey Hendrickson?
43:01
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. I think we should give a
43:02
Speaker 3: shout out.
43:03
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? Or see James Cook got a bag?
43:06
Speaker 1: James Cook four years for the barrels.
43:09
Speaker 2: They're looking to take the next step.
43:11
Speaker 1: Get over the hump of the Super Bowl lockstot to
43:14
Speaker 1: two smoking barrels. Those guys are ready to go out there.
43:18
Speaker 1: Catastrophic intro Quins and Judkins.
43:22
Speaker 3: What's going on with him?
43:23
Speaker 1: He's expected to return. Prosecutors drop Quinn Shawn Judkins, Prosecutors
43:29
Speaker 1: dropped Chargers Bank. He's ready to go. He's got no
43:32
Speaker 1: criminal liability going on. Isaiah Bond. He just signed with
43:34
Speaker 1: the Browns. They got Judkins also on the on the Browns,
43:39
Speaker 1: so prosecutors drop him. Isaiah Bond, he's also at the Browns.
43:43
Speaker 1: And meanwhile DeShawn walks and sitting in the background of
43:45
Speaker 1: the Browns. They're just like, hey, eighties raiders.
43:49
Speaker 3: Let's beat him.
43:50
Speaker 1: Let's fucking beat him out here. They're doing what they're doing.
43:54
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel's comment, there's entertainers and competitors.
43:57
Speaker 3: Man, he knows which one he is.
43:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.
44:00
Speaker 1: It's like, is that a shot or is he basically
44:03
Speaker 1: just is he just talking about being a competitor.
44:04
Speaker 6: I don't think it had anything to do with same
44:08
Speaker 6: the media because.
44:08
Speaker 1: When you when you see the quote, you think Shad,
44:11
Speaker 1: but then you watch him talking and you're like, oh,
44:13
Speaker 1: he's just talking about the world and like what he
44:15
Speaker 1: he knows what his role is and he knows what
44:17
Speaker 1: he has to do, right.
44:18
Speaker 6: Because exactly because she was asking about how do you
44:21
Speaker 6: handle like all the media pressure, whatever it is, and
44:24
Speaker 6: I think he was saying, yeah, the media are whatever,
44:28
Speaker 6: are trying to entertain people and we're like actually playing
44:32
Speaker 6: the game. You had nothing to do with Shad.
44:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how the internet is, man, I know, dude, dude.
44:38
Speaker 1: The Browns are a fun team to watch this here.
44:41
Speaker 6: That's a they got a great lawyer.
44:43
Speaker 1: Yeah they do, man, they really do.
44:50
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
44:51
Speaker 1: Shadura out there, he's doing his thing. He's kind of
44:54
Speaker 1: souncing the haters a little bit. Even if he doesn't
44:56
Speaker 1: start at the beginning the year, it's probably gonna be
44:57
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco's job. Miles Garret, it's out there just walking.
45:00
Speaker 1: Johnny Grays lit this piece flapping.
45:02
Speaker 6: The wind Spencer the Saints, the game winning drives Spencer.
45:05
Speaker 1: Kellen Morris sitting there with Kay Adams a couple of
45:08
Speaker 1: days ago, still not willing to say who his starting
45:10
Speaker 1: quarterback is.
45:12
Speaker 2: So we got there's a lot going on.
45:13
Speaker 1: NFC South is an odd it's an odd ball world.
45:16
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a Falcons. It's a Falcons division
45:19
Speaker 1: this year.
45:20
Speaker 3: I disagree.
45:21
Speaker 1: I think it's Bucks.
45:22
Speaker 3: Oh good point, good point, strong point. I think it's Bucks.
45:26
Speaker 1: Hex takes a step. I could see the Penix taking
45:28
Speaker 1: a step back.
45:29
Speaker 3: I can see Pics taking a step step. But I
45:31
Speaker 3: just think like the Bucks are the team to beat
45:33
Speaker 3: in the South. Like I say, I think the Bucks
45:34
Speaker 3: would be really good in the a f C in general.
45:37
Speaker 1: Just yeah, especially if they ever went to the a
45:38
Speaker 1: f C. Yeah, did I say AFC or NFC? Yeah,
45:42
Speaker 1: you're oh yeah, Trey Henderson, he wants to go. Did
45:47
Speaker 1: y'all see our local Atlanta news?
45:49
Speaker 7: Did penis so dirty?
45:56
Speaker 2: Crazy troll?
45:57
Speaker 1: Yeah? It has been in headlines. Dick jokes have been
45:59
Speaker 1: a big head lines in the past week, So shout
46:02
Speaker 1: out Atlanta getting.
46:03
Speaker 3: In on that.
46:05
Speaker 1: You guys, well, you see guys up to It's a
46:15
Speaker 1: copycat league, man, it's a copycat league.
46:18
Speaker 3: JP had a dig joke on Twitter.
46:21
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and I loved the first comment was so pure.
46:26
Speaker 6: They're like, this reminds me of that nerve football. I'm like, yeah, okay, exactly.
46:32
Speaker 1: That was insane, nice looking peace.
46:36
Speaker 2: I wish I saw this cloud piece. I wish I
46:40
Speaker 2: saw it.
46:43
Speaker 6: Yeah, I put a date on it.
46:44
Speaker 1: Alright, that's good. That's good.
46:48
Speaker 2: Should have been.
46:48
Speaker 3: There'll be another one DNS yesterday. Yeah, congratulations, man, dude.
46:53
Speaker 6: Somebody sent me a video of the Thank you.
46:57
Speaker 2: Somebody sent me.
46:57
Speaker 6: A video of the relay of like a longer video
47:01
Speaker 6: of the pool relay, which I hadn't seen before on
47:04
Speaker 6: release footage Wow.
47:05
Speaker 3: Really luckily, luckily.
47:07
Speaker 6: For you they started it after that first leg.
47:10
Speaker 3: Okay, buddy, actually you might still be in the water.
47:14
Speaker 6: I think I might be out. Yeah, but yeah, no,
47:19
Speaker 6: it was fun. We were down in Florida and it
47:22
Speaker 6: was the sunsets out there. Dude, we freaking we're three
47:26
Speaker 6: for three.
47:27
Speaker 1: It was it was that your drone.
47:29
Speaker 6: Yeah, the birds flying across you cannot. I meant it
47:34
Speaker 6: truly left us both speech us when you because you
47:36
Speaker 6: see it a little bit on your screen when you're
47:38
Speaker 6: filming it, But then when you go back and actually
47:39
Speaker 6: look at the footage, you're like, we'll never never gonna.
47:42
Speaker 1: Be able to top this.
47:44
Speaker 6: God, God, one year it goes by fast, goes by fast.
47:50
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
47:51
Speaker 1: It's crazy how fast that the whole thing goes It's
47:53
Speaker 1: wild that just a year ago, you guys are doing
47:56
Speaker 1: a pool party and I was driving ten hours to
47:58
Speaker 1: a wedding to spend four hours and now look at us, huh, all.
48:01
Speaker 6: For nothing to just because you got back and they
48:04
Speaker 6: they got delayed.
48:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
48:08
Speaker 6: We needed we need to take it out on them.
48:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, did he think you.
48:12
Speaker 1: Think what.
48:16
Speaker 2: He should just enter? Let him come in.
48:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just get him on the bus.
48:22
Speaker 1: Get bay News. Probably Baye not for the public right now,
48:31
Speaker 1: but we have a massive guest locked in for this Thursday,
48:37
Speaker 1: locked in for this Thursday, and they will be coming
48:40
Speaker 1: out the following week. Give you a hint, and it's
48:44
Speaker 1: not what you think.
48:45
Speaker 4: The King.
48:46
Speaker 3: No no, no, no no. Josh Pat's probably out there rocked
48:49
Speaker 3: up right now because he uses and one prescription treatment
48:57
Speaker 3: for guys who need a secret weapon against softness. Rose
49:00
Speaker 3: and give guys bigger, thicker, longer erections because they get
49:02
Speaker 3: fuller faster and after roast sparks dissolved, they work in
49:05
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes on average, and it prescribed. New sexual health
49:07
Speaker 3: patients get fifteen dollars off the first order of roast
49:09
Speaker 3: sparks on a recurring plan. Connect with the provider at
49:12
Speaker 3: road dot co slash bussing to find out if prescription
49:15
Speaker 3: roast sparks are right for you. That's ro dot coeo
49:18
Speaker 3: slash busting for fifteen dollars off your first order. Compounded
49:22
Speaker 3: drugs are permitted to be prescribed under federal law, but
49:25
Speaker 3: are not FDA approved and do not undergo FDA safety
49:28
Speaker 3: effectiveness or manufacturing review for full safety information. For full
49:32
Speaker 3: safety information, go to road dot co slash safety info.
49:37
Speaker 1: Before we get paid on the bus, he's just walked
49:40
Speaker 1: on or just got to the shop. We did have
49:43
Speaker 1: a little small, a small get together at my house
49:46
Speaker 1: on Friday. JP was waiting to find out who won.
49:48
Speaker 1: We had to let you know the information. We played
49:51
Speaker 1: the game t yet again. If you've read applause with
49:53
Speaker 1: Mitch Carsley handling business nice taking me out of the.
49:56
Speaker 2: Championship with it, y'all two versus each other.
49:59
Speaker 1: It was Mitch first one. First one Mitch grabbed, no problem.
50:02
Speaker 1: The second one, Mitch was doing the thing where he
50:04
Speaker 1: jumps roll high in the air. So he did. I
50:06
Speaker 1: just see him right in the head on a highlight. Yeah,
50:09
Speaker 1: I trained. He tried a dunk on me, really, so
50:11
Speaker 1: I got I got his hippy. He went a crazy
50:13
Speaker 1: distance and I went and got that thing. And then
50:16
Speaker 1: the third one was very anti climactic. He saw it,
50:18
Speaker 1: he hunted it down like he'd seeking missile and took
50:21
Speaker 1: the championship. Yeah, I played fun. Oh yeah, it was awesome. Yeah.
50:25
Speaker 3: It might be a top it might be the top
50:28
Speaker 3: pool game. I mean, without really.
50:33
Speaker 1: Into it, it's like, when's the last time as an
50:34
Speaker 1: adult you had that much fun playing a pool game.
50:37
Speaker 1: Obviously pulled basketball, pool, volleyball like those are tough to beat.
50:41
Speaker 3: But yeah, I feel like.
50:43
Speaker 6: I love that draining game.
50:45
Speaker 2: What's the drain game?
50:46
Speaker 1: Splash ballater bombs? You are right about that's hold on,
50:51
Speaker 1: fill me in a little bit.
50:53
Speaker 3: So what I was gonna say is all around, I
50:54
Speaker 3: think t is the best water game because you can
50:57
Speaker 3: kind of make that happen and whatever kind of pull
50:59
Speaker 3: you're in. Some of these games are circumstantial, which gutterball.
51:02
Speaker 3: If you have a pool, you got a big enough pool,
51:04
Speaker 3: usually it's had a public pool, but they got you
51:05
Speaker 3: know how, they got the gutters on the side, and
51:07
Speaker 3: you you take a splash ball and it's.
51:09
Speaker 1: Like two on two.
51:09
Speaker 3: You kind of figure out how how wide you can go,
51:12
Speaker 3: but you're trying to skip it into the gutter. So
51:15
Speaker 3: it's just offense defense. You're trying to make sick diving
51:17
Speaker 3: catches trying to skip it.
51:19
Speaker 2: Fun get the.
51:20
Speaker 3: Side arm going. Gutterball is a blast, bro. We got
51:24
Speaker 3: to get that dialed in. What you got someone to
51:28
Speaker 3: present to you, guys on the bus, present a very
51:32
Speaker 3: special guest.
51:34
Speaker 1: Ladies, gentlemen, Josh future Commissioner of College Football Josh pat
51:41
Speaker 1: Is on the bus. Some people say he is college football.
51:45
Speaker 3: Some people say he is college football.
51:48
Speaker 1: I got you what you got there, dude, je.
51:51
Speaker 2: Honestly, that's just meo caffeinated water. It's really what you
51:55
Speaker 2: drink it out of. That's probably the bigger deal. I've
51:59
Speaker 2: never let anyone else on box one of these things.
52:03
Speaker 1: What's it say you shouldn't have.
52:08
Speaker 3: Paid state Chalice of supremacy.
52:11
Speaker 2: That's the same stuff they make the crystal football out of.
52:13
Speaker 2: That's not true, but that looks like the same stuff
52:15
Speaker 2: they make the crystal football does.
52:17
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.
52:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, So what does this mean? What does this mean
52:20
Speaker 3: for us? Are we part of like the Pate Illuminati?
52:24
Speaker 2: Honestly, you determined what it means for you. I hand
52:27
Speaker 2: out about fifteen twenty of those a year, mostly to
52:30
Speaker 2: family and friends. So we're gonna go backwards on this.
52:33
Speaker 2: So look, balls in your court now, My balls are
52:37
Speaker 2: in your court. You you kind of gave us a gift,
52:40
Speaker 2: you something in return, not necessarily today, but yeah, I
52:44
Speaker 2: mean I don't just give gifts and not expect some
52:46
Speaker 2: of you.
52:47
Speaker 1: But yeah, you never do something for somebody, just have
52:49
Speaker 1: the kindness of your heart.
52:50
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Absolutely, Charity is one of the best businesses
52:52
Speaker 2: to be in. I think we all know that it's
52:54
Speaker 2: very profitable.
52:54
Speaker 1: And I will say, we knew you'd probably bring gifts,
52:56
Speaker 1: so we brought you something as well. Okay, you want
52:59
Speaker 1: to see it now?
53:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think it'll determine the mood the rest
53:02
Speaker 2: of the day. Okay, Yeah, thanks buddy.
53:04
Speaker 1: Absolutely, this this episode, this interview is brought to you
53:07
Speaker 1: by bud Light. But Light has always brew with four
53:09
Speaker 1: simple ingredients for a clean Chris taste. But is the
53:12
Speaker 1: official beer sponsor of the NFL the NFL Draft. Tight
53:15
Speaker 1: End You and Shane Gillis is twenty twenty five tour.
53:18
Speaker 1: Bud Light partners include Peyton Manning, George Kittle, Taro Lawan Baker, Mayfield,
53:22
Speaker 1: Will Compton, em It's Smith, Shane Gillis, post Blone Dustin.
53:24
Speaker 1: For stock up on bud Light now, head to www.
53:27
Speaker 1: Dot butt light dot com, force losh located to find
53:29
Speaker 1: a store near you. Easy to drink, easy to enjoy.
53:32
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna meet that back in a little bit, dude,
53:35
Speaker 1: did it really?
53:37
Speaker 3: No way? We're on the bus, bro.
53:39
Speaker 2: It's really tough to do, yati, we are Your arms
53:41
Speaker 2: look incredible. Thank you.
53:43
Speaker 1: It seems like you have a great V going on
53:45
Speaker 1: as well.
53:46
Speaker 2: It's tough to accomplish, you know that.
53:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I haven't accomplished.
53:49
Speaker 2: It, do you. You seem like you've got it the pump.
53:51
Speaker 2: If you have free time on your hands and you
53:54
Speaker 2: just shop at G and C regularly enough, that's not hard.
53:57
Speaker 2: The V is tough in your twenties, it's not so tough.
54:01
Speaker 2: Google says I'm fifty five. I'm not fifty five years old.
54:03
Speaker 2: They've got me mixed up with that other Josh Pate.
54:05
Speaker 2: But I'm not twenty five either. So the V is
54:08
Speaker 2: it's a challenge. Are you willing to uh tell us
54:10
Speaker 2: how old you actually are? I'm in my thirties, okay,
54:13
Speaker 2: are we talking? We're talking thirty nine for the next
54:16
Speaker 2: six months? Y yeah, not forty eight. Do you look good?
54:23
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. For forty I appreciate it. Yeah. We
54:25
Speaker 2: got a little free time in the middle of the day.
54:27
Speaker 2: That's how we do it. Yeah, you got to work
54:29
Speaker 2: at five am and ten pm. Keep the middle of
54:32
Speaker 2: the day free. That's when the gem's empty, that's when
54:35
Speaker 2: the sun's out. That's how to prolong your life, like
54:37
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen years.
54:38
Speaker 3: Take it in, box it up, put it. What does
54:40
Speaker 3: for people that see that the pay state machine happening?
54:44
Speaker 3: What does a daily cadence look like for you on
54:48
Speaker 3: prepping for your shows? Because you rock live? How many
54:50
Speaker 3: times a week?
54:50
Speaker 1: Three?
54:51
Speaker 2: Three times a week?
54:51
Speaker 3: Three times a week? You rock live, I'm traveling all
54:54
Speaker 3: the time. You're also a married man, Like, what does
54:57
Speaker 3: a daily routine look like for Josh Paton? When you're
55:00
Speaker 3: firing on all cylinders?
55:01
Speaker 2: So we're doing so it's usually five a wake up.
55:04
Speaker 2: There's all the any kind of programming, any kind of
55:07
Speaker 2: like I like to watch a previous night show and
55:09
Speaker 2: grade it on a rubric, kind of like you were
55:11
Speaker 2: a great film the day after you played a football game.
55:13
Speaker 2: We got like a rubric where we kind of grade
55:16
Speaker 2: performance on air. Then there's the engagement stuff. Then you
55:19
Speaker 2: do a whole lot of media. In the morning, you'll
55:22
Speaker 2: do meetings in the morning. We will do show prep
55:25
Speaker 2: part one production meeting. Then we'll go to the gym.
55:27
Speaker 2: We'll get to the office for basically hardcore show prep
55:30
Speaker 2: from three PCE Central until show airs. Show airs at
55:34
Speaker 2: seventh Central POSTPROD that'll probably end nine thirty, go home
55:39
Speaker 2: ten thirty to elevens when you're trying to finish calls
55:42
Speaker 2: that you tried to make throughout the day and hopefully
55:44
Speaker 2: in bed by eleven up at what time? Five? Five?
55:49
Speaker 1: Which machine?
55:50
Speaker 2: Which is hard machine? Did you ever, like, did either
55:52
Speaker 2: one of you ever get conditioned to pre work out,
55:55
Speaker 2: get conditioned like morning workout?
55:57
Speaker 6: Oh?
55:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, you did it. Did you ever get to where
55:59
Speaker 2: you say this is not a problem for me? Because
56:02
Speaker 2: I never did?
56:03
Speaker 3: Like, get what do you mean? This is not a problem.
56:05
Speaker 2: I always feel sick. I feel sick if I have
56:07
Speaker 2: to work out at five o'clock in the morning. I've
56:09
Speaker 2: done it, like for years playing sports. I did it,
56:11
Speaker 2: but I never got into a sweet spot with it,
56:14
Speaker 2: and so it surprises me that I'm able to like
56:16
Speaker 2: normally wake up like my dad used to do. I
56:18
Speaker 2: used to think my dad was a psychopath because he
56:20
Speaker 2: woke up at four forty five every morning on his own.
56:23
Speaker 2: And now I'm like that. But I never thought I
56:25
Speaker 2: would be a morning person. I was always stay up
56:27
Speaker 2: until two am, sleep until nine. And now it's totally inverted,
56:32
Speaker 2: which is good because you get the most work done
56:33
Speaker 2: in the morning.
56:34
Speaker 3: I feel like I've had to teach myself to get
56:37
Speaker 3: used to working out like in the afternoon or in
56:40
Speaker 3: the evening if I can't get.
56:41
Speaker 1: It done in the morning.
56:42
Speaker 3: So I feel like, if I don't get my work
56:43
Speaker 3: out done in the morning, I'm just behind on everything.
56:46
Speaker 3: I'll have a little bit more anxiety. So I would
56:49
Speaker 3: rather if I have to wake up earlier, like do
56:52
Speaker 3: whatever I have to in the morning before I get
56:54
Speaker 3: the day gone.
56:55
Speaker 2: Well, your gym's forty five feet away now too.
56:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair point.
56:58
Speaker 1: If that the thing that yeah, the morning work out
57:01
Speaker 1: to me, I am now training myself that we have
57:04
Speaker 1: the sore next gym at our shop. It's like, all right,
57:06
Speaker 1: get the stuff done, do your little routine in the morning,
57:08
Speaker 1: and then once you get the bulk of your stuff done,
57:10
Speaker 1: take the forty five to an hour and get the
57:12
Speaker 1: work out and then But I'm very much like, wake
57:15
Speaker 1: up in the morning, have your disciplines or whatever you
57:17
Speaker 1: want to get done, and then start your day and
57:19
Speaker 1: it makes you feel good. But if you're waking up
57:21
Speaker 1: at five every single morning, I find myself Wednesday or
57:24
Speaker 1: Thursday finding that lull, finding that drag because I don't
57:27
Speaker 1: find a lot of times for naps.
57:28
Speaker 2: That's where the season matters, because in April there's nothing.
57:31
Speaker 2: There's no light at the tunnel at the end of
57:33
Speaker 2: the week, right, I mean unless you're going on vacation
57:35
Speaker 2: or something. That's why this time of year. Like, so
57:37
Speaker 2: we're sitting here talking week zero starts this weekend, then
57:40
Speaker 2: next weekend everyone will be playing, and I like, I
57:43
Speaker 2: call that season protocol. So someone out there is watching
57:45
Speaker 2: this or listening to this, and there their Wednesday's gonna suck.
57:49
Speaker 2: And if your Wednesday sucks in March, your Wednesday just
57:51
Speaker 2: sucks in March. If your Wednesday sucks in October, you knowe,
57:56
Speaker 2: no matter how bad it gets today, I got Michigan
57:58
Speaker 2: kicking off. I got Nebraska kicking off, like seventy two
58:01
Speaker 2: hours or ninety six hours. That's where that that whole key,
58:05
Speaker 2: it gets put in the ignition and it gets turned.
58:08
Speaker 2: How do you have a bad day in the fall.
58:11
Speaker 1: That It's true, there's always something to look forward to
58:14
Speaker 1: every single week. The hopes and dreams we were talking
58:16
Speaker 1: about on the intro, it's like, what do you like
58:19
Speaker 1: every week? There's something to look forward to.
58:20
Speaker 2: That's where people so casual fans who watch football if
58:24
Speaker 2: it's on at a bar or if they're at a
58:26
Speaker 2: buddy's house, they don't get that. But see, they'll make
58:29
Speaker 2: fun of people who are diehard sports fans, and I
58:31
Speaker 2: always like, I'm in on the joke with them, because
58:33
Speaker 2: the joke is on them, because you don't have this
58:36
Speaker 2: thing in your life that for six months out of
58:39
Speaker 2: the year makes everything that's bad during the week right
58:42
Speaker 2: because you have it to look forward to. What are
58:45
Speaker 2: you looking forward to if you don't have this in
58:47
Speaker 2: your life. I've got God in my life, I got
58:49
Speaker 2: family in my life, and then I got college football
58:51
Speaker 2: six months out of the year in my life. Even
58:54
Speaker 2: if you have the first two, what's filling the third void?
58:58
Speaker 2: There's three great voids in life. This up like some
59:01
Speaker 2: kind of monks said this at one point.
59:03
Speaker 1: He did sound like a modern philosophy.
59:04
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, you're juicing me up because you're right.
59:08
Speaker 3: It's like God, selfless, family, selfless. But what's that selfish thing? Yeah,
59:13
Speaker 3: that's pushing you to the end of the week that
59:14
Speaker 3: you could just get giddy about.
59:17
Speaker 2: I don't know what else it is. I know it.
59:18
Speaker 2: People have other passions but I don't know what other
59:22
Speaker 2: thing that people really partake in. Like, I guess if
59:25
Speaker 2: you were a big fan of a musician, they're gonna
59:28
Speaker 2: come to your town one time out of the year.
59:30
Speaker 2: If you're a big like Marvel fan, their movie is
59:33
Speaker 2: gonna come out, and it's gonna come out one time
59:35
Speaker 2: a year. We get this boom boom, boom boom every Saturday.
59:38
Speaker 1: Every they drop every weekend in the fall, and you
59:40
Speaker 1: know it's coming every single time.
59:42
Speaker 2: It's great.
59:42
Speaker 1: Talk to me about how the origin of college football
59:45
Speaker 1: love started for you, because when when you were here
59:47
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, we started breaking down.
59:49
Speaker 3: You play a little bit of high school. You're more
59:51
Speaker 3: a baseball.
59:52
Speaker 1: Guy than you really didn't do anything in college, but
59:54
Speaker 1: you just found the love, and then you've obviously turned
59:56
Speaker 1: into the college football guru you are today.
59:58
Speaker 2: Yeah. I grew up in it like I was immersed
1:00:01
Speaker 2: in it. So the stereotype about kids who grew up
1:00:04
Speaker 2: in the South like that was me. So it was
1:00:06
Speaker 2: no different than that. What I wondered for a long
1:00:09
Speaker 2: time is like, Okay, if I'm not going to play it,
1:00:13
Speaker 2: I don't look like I'm going to get a scholarship
1:00:15
Speaker 2: to Syracuse or Northwestern or one of those big journalism schools.
1:00:18
Speaker 2: So everyone I see on TV has one pretty much,
1:00:21
Speaker 2: or either they're a former player or former coach, and
1:00:23
Speaker 2: I'm none of those. So it looks like maybe I
1:00:25
Speaker 2: won't be able to do this for a living. So
1:00:27
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna watch it and I'm gonna love it
1:00:30
Speaker 2: like all my buddies do. So then what was crazy?
1:00:33
Speaker 2: You guys have seen this just like I have twenty thirteen,
1:00:37
Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen rolls around. I've been doing radio for a
1:00:40
Speaker 2: little while. But like when I pulled up Facebook one
1:00:43
Speaker 2: day and someone was live streaming, or when I pulled
1:00:46
Speaker 2: up YouTube one day and someone was live streaming. I
1:00:49
Speaker 2: wasn't around for the Berlin Wall. But in our world,
1:00:52
Speaker 2: in my world, and the non former player, non former coach,
1:00:55
Speaker 2: non big journalism degree world, those were the Berlin coming
1:01:00
Speaker 2: down because overhead and distribution was the name of the game. Well,
1:01:04
Speaker 2: your overhead here is a bus that you tricked out,
1:01:07
Speaker 2: and your distribution is the Internet. And so once that
1:01:10
Speaker 2: became the two game changers in the space, I realized,
1:01:13
Speaker 2: oh wait, maybe I can, Like if I'm half good
1:01:15
Speaker 2: at it, maybe I can do that, you can truly
1:01:17
Speaker 2: bet on yourself at that point. Up until that point,
1:01:20
Speaker 2: even if you did everything right, there were like five
1:01:21
Speaker 2: or six gatekeepers that really determined who scaled, who made it,
1:01:25
Speaker 2: and who didn't. So it went well, it went from
1:01:28
Speaker 2: passion that I loved it and but that's going to
1:01:31
Speaker 2: be a hobby, that's what I do for fun, to
1:01:33
Speaker 2: maybe I can do that for a living. So I
1:01:35
Speaker 2: would say from birth I loved it. About ten years
1:01:39
Speaker 2: ago is when I realized there could be something professionally.
1:01:42
Speaker 2: There's a career.
1:01:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, what were the learning curves like when you were
1:01:44
Speaker 3: trying to hit your breakthroughs or break through the ceilings
1:01:48
Speaker 3: that you had on top of you, or that you
1:01:50
Speaker 3: assumed was on top of you.
1:01:52
Speaker 2: Well, it takes so many chops. It's like full Greg Ciano.
1:01:56
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy has set up there in Rutgers
1:01:57
Speaker 2: for years. Every Thursday night it felt like they play
1:01:59
Speaker 2: a game, And every Thursday night he'd get on air
1:02:02
Speaker 2: and he'd say, we got to keep chopping wood, we
1:02:03
Speaker 2: got to kee chopping wood. And I listened to that.
1:02:05
Speaker 2: It's like in one ear out the other that's coaching speak,
1:02:07
Speaker 2: that's cliches. But then when you start doing this. I
1:02:10
Speaker 2: mean I for a long time. I'm happy if we
1:02:13
Speaker 2: get double digit viewers on a live stream. I'm happy
1:02:15
Speaker 2: if we've got seventeen, like we're pushing twenty tonight, and
1:02:18
Speaker 2: so that's a big deal. Well, I'm thinking to myself,
1:02:22
Speaker 2: I wonder what I have to do to get millions
1:02:24
Speaker 2: of viewers, millions of subscribers and listens. And I mistakenly thought,
1:02:29
Speaker 2: you've got to do way better work. You could be
1:02:31
Speaker 2: doing the right work. It just takes a while to
1:02:34
Speaker 2: cut through, which is a good thing. You actually want
1:02:37
Speaker 2: your big break really quickly. But it's a blessing that
1:02:39
Speaker 2: the big break doesn't come because you actually may not
1:02:42
Speaker 2: be ready for the big break when you're praying for it.
1:02:43
Speaker 2: So it's actually a blessing that you're three four years
1:02:46
Speaker 2: down the road. Is when like a Shannon Terry calls
1:02:48
Speaker 2: you up, because then you've got your thousands of hours
1:02:50
Speaker 2: of repetition. You've got a persona a little bit like
1:02:53
Speaker 2: you've got an identity. You know who you are, you
1:02:56
Speaker 2: know what your presentation is. You're not trying to emulate
1:02:59
Speaker 2: anyone anymore. Like you have your influences just like we
1:03:02
Speaker 2: all do. But you've divorced yourself from trying to be
1:03:05
Speaker 2: as repetitively like comparable to them as possible, And so
1:03:11
Speaker 2: it's just being comfortable not being seen or heard for
1:03:14
Speaker 2: a long time and understanding it may be a blessing
1:03:16
Speaker 2: that no one's seeing you, were hearing you for a
1:03:18
Speaker 2: little while. And then the competition's out there quitting every
1:03:21
Speaker 2: day because they're not getting the results. So unbeknownst to you,
1:03:24
Speaker 2: they're like five thousand people that started at the same
1:03:27
Speaker 2: time you did, and there are about three to five
1:03:30
Speaker 2: spots at the top of the ladder in what you do,
1:03:33
Speaker 2: and so there it's like ten years down the road
1:03:35
Speaker 2: before you could ever achieve it, and you can't see
1:03:38
Speaker 2: your competition. I'm in Columbus, Georgia doing what I'm doing.
1:03:40
Speaker 2: There may be a guy in Des Moines, Iowa, maybe
1:03:42
Speaker 2: a goat in Twison in Arizona, and every day, like
1:03:44
Speaker 2: five or ten of them are tapping out because no
1:03:46
Speaker 2: one's watching them. Right, That is hard to adjust to
1:03:50
Speaker 2: if you don't have perspective about yourself.
1:03:53
Speaker 3: I heard a U.
1:03:54
Speaker 1: That's powerful shit right there, Josh Bai. That is bro Yeah, absolutely,
1:03:59
Speaker 1: I mean that is chopping what.
1:04:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like anybody who's tuning in and thinking
1:04:02
Speaker 3: about something other, curious or interested in doing something that
1:04:05
Speaker 3: would be a conversation that they should that they're probably
1:04:08
Speaker 3: sitting there and self talking themselves on do I want
1:04:11
Speaker 3: to do this? Or if they're in the middle of
1:04:12
Speaker 3: something right now and they're not getting the love that
1:04:15
Speaker 3: they think they should be getting right now, like that,
1:04:16
Speaker 3: right there is a great perspective to lean on.
1:04:19
Speaker 2: Take consistent action. Yeah, eventually you'll be rewarded for all
1:04:22
Speaker 2: the things you do. That's it. Hey, even if you're not,
1:04:24
Speaker 2: even if you don't get the reward you think you're owed,
1:04:27
Speaker 2: You'll never lay in bed at night wondering, Man, I
1:04:28
Speaker 2: wonder what would happen if I didn't quit, Or I
1:04:30
Speaker 2: wonder what would have happened if I pursued that. That
1:04:33
Speaker 2: was like in the times where our traction was nothing,
1:04:36
Speaker 2: And like I'm trying to work part time to even
1:04:39
Speaker 2: stay from getting evicted. You're still telling yourself, Yeah, but
1:04:43
Speaker 2: I'm doing what I love. I'm pursuing what I love.
1:04:45
Speaker 2: So I'd rather just go broke doing this than go
1:04:48
Speaker 2: take like there was a job. I remember this the
1:04:51
Speaker 2: convention and Trade center in the town I grew up
1:04:53
Speaker 2: in there was a job. It would have paid me
1:04:55
Speaker 2: sixty thousand dollars a year, way more money than I
1:04:57
Speaker 2: had ever made at any point. That was like double
1:04:59
Speaker 2: what I was making local TV. I could have taken
1:05:01
Speaker 2: that and been totally fine the rest of my life.
1:05:04
Speaker 2: I would have escalated up through middle management, upper management,
1:05:08
Speaker 2: but I would have never known. And also, since that's
1:05:12
Speaker 2: the mid to late twenty teens, congruent to me tapping out,
1:05:16
Speaker 2: someone else would have blown up in the college space,
1:05:19
Speaker 2: or two or three people would have blown up in
1:05:20
Speaker 2: the college space, and I'd be sitting here in twenty
1:05:22
Speaker 2: twenty five watching their channel, subscribe to their stuff, downloading
1:05:26
Speaker 2: their pods, and I would think to myself this whole time,
1:05:29
Speaker 2: I'm not happy, I'm not fulfilled, because deep down, I
1:05:31
Speaker 2: think that should have been.
1:05:32
Speaker 1: Me with with that mindset of being like I'm gonna
1:05:36
Speaker 1: keep this going. I want like I'm doing what I
1:05:38
Speaker 1: love regardless if the money's not coming in. Did you
1:05:40
Speaker 1: have that thought process the entire time or was there
1:05:42
Speaker 1: ever a point where you're like, Okay, maybe I should
1:05:44
Speaker 1: pack this.
1:05:45
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's not for me.
1:05:46
Speaker 1: I see these other guys that maybe because once you
1:05:49
Speaker 1: start doing something, you become more aware of what everybody
1:05:51
Speaker 1: else is kind of doing trying to do around you. Yep,
1:05:54
Speaker 1: and you gotta see, maybe this guy to your left
1:05:56
Speaker 1: is getting a little more views than you. He started
1:05:58
Speaker 1: to do a little bit better than you. That can
1:05:59
Speaker 1: be a little bit like comparison is the thief of joy,
1:06:01
Speaker 1: Like you're losing it? How is he doing better than
1:06:04
Speaker 1: I am? Was there ever, like a maybe I should
1:06:06
Speaker 1: take that sixty thousand dollars a year job and work
1:06:08
Speaker 1: through middle management? Or was it very consistent like I'm
1:06:10
Speaker 1: going to keep doing this and keep chopping on.
1:06:12
Speaker 2: I would say there were individual moments where yeah, there
1:06:15
Speaker 2: was doubt, but I would say they were fleeting, Like
1:06:17
Speaker 2: the consistent theme was I'm going to see this through,
1:06:20
Speaker 2: like I'm going to steer the ship into the fog.
1:06:22
Speaker 2: If I hit the rocks, I hit the rocks. But like,
1:06:24
Speaker 2: I think that's the way I'm supposed to go, right.
1:06:26
Speaker 2: I think the other thing you hit on there is
1:06:28
Speaker 2: something that's the stupidest thing that exists in our space,
1:06:31
Speaker 2: like in the digital media space. People don't know how
1:06:33
Speaker 2: to define competition in our space. People treat competition in
1:06:37
Speaker 2: digital media like it's nineteen ninety three. So in nineteen
1:06:40
Speaker 2: ninety three, if you got Busting going on and I
1:06:43
Speaker 2: got my show going on, and we're both airing in Nashville, Tennessee,
1:06:46
Speaker 2: from three to seven pm in the afternoon, every listener
1:06:49
Speaker 2: you get is one I can't get. There is no
1:06:51
Speaker 2: on demand, There is no replay, there is no download
1:06:54
Speaker 2: the pod tomorrow morning if you miss the live show.
1:06:57
Speaker 2: So we got to beat each other's throats, and I
1:06:59
Speaker 2: got to do whatever I got to do on the streets.
1:07:01
Speaker 2: I got to get in the pocket of advertisers and
1:07:04
Speaker 2: take you guys out, because that's how I'm going to survive.
1:07:06
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five is not like that. Twenty twenty five
1:07:10
Speaker 2: is high tide raises all boats. It is on demand.
1:07:13
Speaker 2: The audience is in full control, and so when you
1:07:16
Speaker 2: do good, if I have my head on straight, it
1:07:19
Speaker 2: actually helps me. So all that gets in your way
1:07:22
Speaker 2: is ignorance or jealousy. Now, and it's crazy. It's as
1:07:25
Speaker 2: old as canaan able, so it'll always be there. But
1:07:28
Speaker 2: to watch the guys who don't get it, and who
1:07:31
Speaker 2: still try and talk about being competitive, and they think
1:07:34
Speaker 2: competitive means taking views from someone that's not the way
1:07:37
Speaker 2: the industry works anymore. And I really look, there was
1:07:40
Speaker 2: a whole bunch. I didn't know. There's a whole bunch.
1:07:42
Speaker 2: I still don't know. But I realized early on. If
1:07:44
Speaker 2: I'm watching other people who are doing college football on
1:07:47
Speaker 2: digital media, I'm rooting for them. I'm not looking at
1:07:50
Speaker 2: their viewership as being twice mine and saying, dude, I'm
1:07:53
Speaker 2: so envy of that. How do I take that for myself?
1:07:57
Speaker 2: What I'm thinking is, how do I make sure I'm
1:07:59
Speaker 2: in there justted videos feed? How do I make sure
1:08:02
Speaker 2: I get some rub with their channel? How do I
1:08:04
Speaker 2: make sure their audience sees me. I'm going to be
1:08:06
Speaker 2: active in their comment section. I'm going to do that.
1:08:08
Speaker 2: But the competition, Doude, it's so misunderstood. The competitions with
1:08:12
Speaker 2: a standard. It's not with anybody else that's in the space,
1:08:15
Speaker 2: at least I don't think it is in twenty twenty five.
1:08:18
Speaker 1: Dude, I could not. I couldnot agree with that thought process. More,
1:08:21
Speaker 1: like you said, every everybody, there's so many eyes and
1:08:23
Speaker 1: ears in this world. And if you're a fan of
1:08:25
Speaker 1: sports and you go find we were talking about new heights,
1:08:28
Speaker 1: like they just said, Tai swift on. They had seventeen
1:08:30
Speaker 1: million views unbelieved on Wednesday. That's a win for everything,
1:08:34
Speaker 1: Like you're allowed, you're bringing more eyes and ears and
1:08:36
Speaker 1: hopefully they come and see you a little bit as well,
1:08:38
Speaker 1: and you get to snap off. You know, one percent
1:08:40
Speaker 1: of those people want to stay with you and watch
1:08:42
Speaker 1: you as well. It's such an interesting change when you
1:08:46
Speaker 1: go from playing competitive sports yes, where everyone is like
1:08:49
Speaker 1: you know, you walk into a room it's high school.
1:08:51
Speaker 1: You walk into a room there's a starting left tackle.
1:08:53
Speaker 1: I want to be the starting left tackle. So now
1:08:55
Speaker 1: I'm competing with him back and forth trying to get
1:08:58
Speaker 1: that job. And then obviously if you're able to get it,
1:09:00
Speaker 1: you're trying to get a scholarship. It's always competing for self.
1:09:03
Speaker 1: And then going to a world like this, it's like
1:09:05
Speaker 1: you have to kind of turn off the thought process
1:09:07
Speaker 1: of competing with others to now you're competing with yourself
1:09:09
Speaker 1: and how do you make your brand and quality as
1:09:11
Speaker 1: good as possible. So when people do stumble upon you,
1:09:14
Speaker 1: it's like all right, like you're giving them something that
1:09:16
Speaker 1: they want to come back to.
1:09:17
Speaker 2: Think about this also, what do you want out of it?
1:09:21
Speaker 2: Like you could be of the mentality that all I
1:09:24
Speaker 2: want to do is grow my brand individually, make as
1:09:28
Speaker 2: much money as I can. You can be purely selfish
1:09:30
Speaker 2: about it, and that's your business. Like, if you want
1:09:32
Speaker 2: to be that way, I don't advise it, but I'm
1:09:35
Speaker 2: not going to tell you not to be that way.
1:09:36
Speaker 2: But like, think about fundamentally, what you get to do.
1:09:40
Speaker 2: You get to Both of you played the game. I'm
1:09:42
Speaker 2: sitting here having not even played the game. I'm strictly
1:09:46
Speaker 2: taking from football. And it's the stupidest mentality in the
1:09:49
Speaker 2: world to have where you make life changing money, sitting
1:09:52
Speaker 2: by a microphone talking about a sport. To think, Oh,
1:09:56
Speaker 2: I don't owe anything to this space. I don't owe
1:09:59
Speaker 2: anything that game. I don't owe anything to the community
1:10:03
Speaker 2: at large. I don't know how you make it long
1:10:05
Speaker 2: term thinking like that. I don't know how you make
1:10:07
Speaker 2: it in life thinking like that much less make it professionally. Boy,
1:10:12
Speaker 2: that Nebraska had looks so good.
1:10:14
Speaker 3: You like it. I thought you would have one on too.
1:10:16
Speaker 1: I know that you know.
1:10:18
Speaker 3: I watched your show last night. I heard I saw
1:10:21
Speaker 3: the clip obviously, but I also consume the entirety of
1:10:26
Speaker 3: your show last night, and I had a little little
1:10:29
Speaker 3: shit eating grin when I heard you say biggest Nebraska
1:10:32
Speaker 3: supporter in the city of Nashville, so I assumed that
1:10:34
Speaker 3: you'd probably have on something Nebraska related. I dare I ask,
1:10:38
Speaker 3: are you going to be on the road with us
1:10:40
Speaker 3: next week at Arrowhead, Nebraska Cincinnati, being the Nebraska supporter
1:10:45
Speaker 3: that you are, which fires me up because you're a
1:10:47
Speaker 3: monster in the space. So hey, more Nebraska supporters, the better.
1:10:51
Speaker 2: Here's the problem I have. The problem I have is
1:10:54
Speaker 2: if I'm at Arrowhead next week and then I'm at
1:10:57
Speaker 2: the buss and Bowl a few weeks later, the public
1:10:59
Speaker 2: starts to talk about Nebraska homersm, the public starts to
1:11:03
Speaker 2: throw allegations that I can't afford right now, and so
1:11:06
Speaker 2: I've got to choose one or the other.
1:11:07
Speaker 3: But it wouldn't that be better? Because isn't the bias
1:11:09
Speaker 3: of Josh paid is that you're an SEC homer.
1:11:12
Speaker 2: It really depends on who you're listening to, because you
1:11:15
Speaker 2: go around the South and they'll tell you do you
1:11:16
Speaker 2: slurp the Big ten too much? And the Big ten
1:11:19
Speaker 2: will definitely tell you the opposite, And then some guy
1:11:20
Speaker 2: randomly throw big twelve homersm at me. The other day.
1:11:23
Speaker 2: And there's not a Big twelve homer on the planet,
1:11:25
Speaker 2: by the way, that's not even a thing that they say,
1:11:27
Speaker 2: I don't know, don't go one that sits in the
1:11:29
Speaker 2: back there.
1:11:32
Speaker 3: He loves big twelve football.
1:11:34
Speaker 2: By the Big twelve. But everybody thinks you're making it
1:11:37
Speaker 2: a charity case when you say that, I'm talking about
1:11:40
Speaker 2: people who would like in Predator take the machete across
1:11:43
Speaker 2: the chest they bleed Big twelve. Those people are hard
1:11:47
Speaker 2: to find, and so when you get at you get
1:11:50
Speaker 2: accused of being one. It's almost like a badge of
1:11:53
Speaker 2: honor in a weird way, because it's the safest allegation
1:11:56
Speaker 2: you can own that, And if you're a big twelve homer,
1:11:58
Speaker 2: no one hates you. So that's actually the one I want,
1:12:01
Speaker 2: but it's not the one I have.
1:12:02
Speaker 3: Did you hear the little nuggety through in there the
1:12:04
Speaker 3: Easter Egg if he's at the bust?
1:12:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so you come in so yeah, Honestly,
1:12:11
Speaker 1: if it's my perfect world, would love to have you
1:12:13
Speaker 1: at the bust and bowl over Arrowhead.
1:12:14
Speaker 2: Do you worry that you may overshadow the game that day?
1:12:18
Speaker 2: I think me we're getting to the point where the
1:12:23
Speaker 2: juice around the Bust and Bowl. I'm just do if
1:12:28
Speaker 2: you think you talked to Sharon, you talk to Matt Rule,
1:12:31
Speaker 2: and then you talk to you guys. Do you think
1:12:33
Speaker 2: that there may be leading up to kickoff a little
1:12:35
Speaker 2: concern the game's being overshadowed because Bust and Bowl is
1:12:38
Speaker 2: in town.
1:12:38
Speaker 1: I think that's pressure and pressure makes diamonds. Yeah, and
1:12:41
Speaker 1: one team will rise to the occasion and one team won't.
1:12:44
Speaker 1: It's a reason why it's the greatest trophy game in
1:12:46
Speaker 1: all of college.
1:12:46
Speaker 2: Football, which I disagree with.
1:12:48
Speaker 1: Well, we can get into that. We all have opinions,
1:12:51
Speaker 1: no matter how wrong or right they are. We all
1:12:53
Speaker 1: have opinions, right yep.
1:12:55
Speaker 3: So also, what we're bringing eyes and ears to the
1:12:57
Speaker 3: game that we love, to the teams that we love.
1:12:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're giving back to the game these guys.
1:13:01
Speaker 1: These guys want it, they need it, they gotta have it.
1:13:04
Speaker 1: They look at that Bust and Bull trophy that's in
1:13:05
Speaker 1: ann Arbor, Michigan right now, that's sitting in their player's
1:13:08
Speaker 1: locker room or their players lounge, whatever it is, and
1:13:11
Speaker 1: they smile when they walk past it. They think busting
1:13:14
Speaker 1: with the boys. They think tradition, rich history, two elite
1:13:17
Speaker 1: programs that have been a staple of college football since
1:13:21
Speaker 1: the time they planted their block N and M.
1:13:25
Speaker 2: That fires me up.
1:13:26
Speaker 1: They're proud, so that fires me up. September twentieth, two
1:13:30
Speaker 1: teams will enter, one team will leave Victoria.
1:13:32
Speaker 2: One day that trophy could be Florida Rosdale, Florida. One day,
1:13:36
Speaker 2: that trophy could be Florida. I got one trophy on
1:13:39
Speaker 2: my set. Is it the Pig, and it's the pig Pig?
1:13:41
Speaker 2: Is that Minnesota, Minnesota, Iowa?
1:13:44
Speaker 1: Minnesota, Iowa. That's the greatest trophy you think.
1:13:46
Speaker 2: I love? I love it is the greatest trophy in sports.
1:13:49
Speaker 2: I think it's better than the Stanley Cup. I just love.
1:13:51
Speaker 2: It's got to name. It's a pig named Floyd. It's
1:13:55
Speaker 2: a pig. It's a trophy, that's a statue. They've got
1:13:58
Speaker 2: the acts.
1:13:58
Speaker 1: You probably know the Big ten Wisconsin, Minnesota.
1:14:02
Speaker 2: That's beautiful.
1:14:03
Speaker 1: That's a good one. And honestly, as a pig lover,
1:14:05
Speaker 1: I had a peg in college. His name was doctor Hamlet.
1:14:07
Speaker 1: The third I can have respect and love for that trophy.
1:14:11
Speaker 1: Don't hold a candle to the bust and bawl don't
1:14:14
Speaker 1: hold a candle to Paul Bunyan trophy.
1:14:15
Speaker 2: And you're not biased in anyway like you're speaking about
1:14:18
Speaker 2: this from an unbiased perspective.
1:14:19
Speaker 1: I think if you look at I mean, just pull up,
1:14:21
Speaker 1: just pull up a picture of the bust and Bowl trophy.
1:14:23
Speaker 3: If we're talking about looks.
1:14:25
Speaker 2: Alone, butment Cinnamon as well. Yeah, there's sentiment on my
1:14:28
Speaker 2: side with Floyd. I can't understand. I'm not knocking this trophy.
1:14:33
Speaker 2: This is a very good trophy. In time, I think
1:14:35
Speaker 2: it could elevate in meaning. I think this year goes
1:14:37
Speaker 2: a long way in that. Yeah, I mean, Floyd's been
1:14:40
Speaker 2: around since the Mayflower.
1:14:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only one I would agree with you. I
1:14:44
Speaker 3: I could say I would have the speaking for myself,
1:14:48
Speaker 3: biased towards the bus and Bowl. But in all totality,
1:14:52
Speaker 3: you can't just have a one sided bust and Bowl trophy,
1:14:55
Speaker 3: you know, can I bet very young, we're in our
1:14:57
Speaker 3: youth stages right now.
1:14:58
Speaker 2: Can I get some feedback? I think you need to
1:15:00
Speaker 2: feature the trophy more prominently. I have not seen a
1:15:03
Speaker 2: close up of this trophy, and I consume your stuff
1:15:06
Speaker 2: pretty fairly religiously, so I think that you need to
1:15:09
Speaker 2: get the image of the trophy out there more. I
1:15:11
Speaker 2: think it needs to be more prominent. I think it
1:15:13
Speaker 2: needs to be featured more. I agree many trophies merchandizable.
1:15:18
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a terrible idea that could be
1:15:20
Speaker 2: your childice of supremacy.
1:15:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, write that down. We interrupt this episode to bring
1:15:24
Speaker 3: you Dude Wipes. Are you fumbling the ball when it
1:15:26
Speaker 3: comes to getting a confident clean in the back of
1:15:28
Speaker 3: your end zone? Make the right play, call an audible
1:15:30
Speaker 3: and switch from dry toilet paper to wet extra large
1:15:33
Speaker 3: dude wipes. Why it's simple. Wetter just cleans better, and
1:15:37
Speaker 3: dude wipes are wet and extra large so they clear
1:15:39
Speaker 3: never smear your rear. So when you got to go
1:15:42
Speaker 3: number two, be sure to bring the number one product
1:15:44
Speaker 3: and clean. Dude Wipes the goat of cleaning your keyster.
1:15:47
Speaker 3: Available on Amazon and at a Walmart nationwide. In at
1:15:51
Speaker 3: Walmart Nationwide, Dude Wipes Best Clean Pants Down.
1:15:55
Speaker 1: Back to the episode, but.
1:15:56
Speaker 2: Can we go back for just yes, So you're talking
1:15:59
Speaker 2: about pressure, and you were talking about pressure making diamonds
1:16:02
Speaker 2: and big game coming up. That's what four weeks from now?
1:16:05
Speaker 2: What date is that? September twentieth, but like before August ends,
1:16:11
Speaker 2: you got a first pitch coming up?
1:16:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually it's tomorrow.
1:16:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so tonight.
1:16:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, as you're watching the show, it is tonight.
1:16:19
Speaker 2: Can I give you my take on this, because everyone's
1:16:22
Speaker 2: going to try and hype you up. Everyone's going to
1:16:23
Speaker 2: tell you don't be nervous. You're going to be nervous
1:16:25
Speaker 2: if you remain in your current state. So folks like
1:16:29
Speaker 2: to listen to music before they go do stuff like this.
1:16:31
Speaker 2: Folks like to do push ups or do the armbands.
1:16:34
Speaker 2: If you'll pop three niquil thirty minutes before you throw
1:16:38
Speaker 2: out this first pitch, you will be fine. You'll go
1:16:42
Speaker 2: inner third, outer third, You'll be able to location spot,
1:16:44
Speaker 2: you'll be fine. You fall asleep afterwards, yeah, but you
1:16:47
Speaker 2: will be totally fine, and you hardly will even remember
1:16:50
Speaker 2: the experience, but you'll have the film. Like George Bush
1:16:52
Speaker 2: after nine to eleven, you'll be able to go back
1:16:54
Speaker 2: and you'll be able to say, Dude, I fell asleep
1:16:56
Speaker 2: in the dugout after this, but that was sixty three
1:16:59
Speaker 2: on the black.
1:17:01
Speaker 1: Tell me why Nike will, how'd you get there? I
1:17:04
Speaker 1: thought you were going to say something on the lines
1:17:05
Speaker 1: of visualization. No, I thought you were going to compliment
1:17:08
Speaker 1: my throwing abilities is we've actually played catch.
1:17:10
Speaker 2: We have, but that wasn't Kaufman Stadium. You're going to Coffman, right,
1:17:12
Speaker 2: You're going to Kansas City. Yes, yes, I just all
1:17:15
Speaker 2: due respect to the alley back here. There's not a
1:17:17
Speaker 2: there's not a waterfall in center field in the alley
1:17:19
Speaker 2: back here. Could make quick trip. By the way, one
1:17:22
Speaker 2: of my big partners is the presenting sponsor of Kansas
1:17:25
Speaker 2: City Royals. This is a big deal for me to
1:17:27
Speaker 2: even have you guys in town. In fact, welcome to
1:17:29
Speaker 2: Kansas City. Yeah. Just I'm just in all due respect,
1:17:33
Speaker 2: like that's a little different.
1:17:34
Speaker 3: Than listen, Josh, with all due respect, we have been
1:17:37
Speaker 3: working on the mental side, feel the grass, feeling the
1:17:41
Speaker 3: space around you, trying to bring yourself back to bush.
1:17:44
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm just saying my advice is scrap all
1:17:47
Speaker 2: the prep and take niquil. Take that's my that's my advice.
1:17:49
Speaker 3: You take it or leave it, right, Okay, that's what's
1:17:52
Speaker 3: your experience been with Nike will in these big moments, I.
1:17:54
Speaker 2: Can throw accurately. So I don't I don't need it.
1:17:56
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying when you use I feel to
1:18:00
Speaker 3: help you out in a big moment.
1:18:01
Speaker 2: No, I've not done that, but I think I just.
1:18:06
Speaker 1: He's you need give me a wild advice. Part of
1:18:08
Speaker 1: me feels like maybe you're trying to set me.
1:18:10
Speaker 2: Up a little bit. I don't want to set Maybe
1:18:12
Speaker 2: maybe taking a slump. I would say take it an
1:18:14
Speaker 2: hour before. If I wanted to set you up, they
1:18:16
Speaker 2: would wheel you out there. Then. No, I want you
1:18:19
Speaker 2: just to be so lost and not in the moment.
1:18:22
Speaker 2: He's just like muscle memory boom. I threw it. Did
1:18:25
Speaker 2: I throw the pitch already? Yeah? You did. Here's the
1:18:27
Speaker 2: replay Good to Go Fly Home.
1:18:29
Speaker 1: So you're basically telling me drug yourself. Yes, legally, this
1:18:32
Speaker 1: is role models. This is Shawn william Scott out camping
1:18:36
Speaker 1: and he takes a bunch of drugs with the girls
1:18:37
Speaker 1: so they can sleep. They're gonna have hallucinations.
1:18:39
Speaker 2: It is the Sean william Scott approach to first pitches. Yes, okay,
1:18:44
Speaker 2: I will you can get this stuff at CBS.
1:18:46
Speaker 3: We're gonna put that.
1:18:47
Speaker 1: We're in the suggestion box.
1:18:48
Speaker 2: Could could be a partner of the show.
1:18:51
Speaker 1: You're looking at a sponsor. I will overduce your ship
1:18:54
Speaker 1: for the big moment. Yeah, we are not brought to
1:18:57
Speaker 1: no free shouts to night, will no free shoutous to night.
1:19:00
Speaker 1: That is an interesting take. Just get drowsy enough so
1:19:04
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean a whole lot too, h Just whatever.
1:19:06
Speaker 2: If I make it fine, if I miss it, fine,
1:19:08
Speaker 2: I'll be asleep in five minutes either way. You know
1:19:10
Speaker 2: who's really fucked me up the most in this Jeremy Clump. Yeah.
1:19:14
Speaker 1: He has for the last two weeks every day at
1:19:16
Speaker 1: one point told me how nervous he is for me.
1:19:19
Speaker 1: And I wasn't nervous until mid last week. And then
1:19:24
Speaker 1: after the fiftieth time of him being like, I just
1:19:27
Speaker 1: hope you have a good pitch, and I'm worried about you.
1:19:28
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's a good pack, and I'm like, I should
1:19:30
Speaker 1: be a little worried about this. I should be a
1:19:33
Speaker 1: little worried. Here's where I sit because it's getting closer. Yeah,
1:19:36
Speaker 1: it's here, Yeah, it is here. Like I like, you're
1:19:39
Speaker 1: probably watching this episode right now, and I'm on a
1:19:42
Speaker 1: plane to Kansas City.
1:19:44
Speaker 3: Fandel's promoing it ten thousand dollars in bonus bets. Taylor
1:19:47
Speaker 3: does a pitchable or a catchable pitch.
1:19:51
Speaker 2: So where is your mind at? Where's your mind.
1:19:53
Speaker 3: At at this point?
1:19:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to take these next sixteen hours. I'm
1:19:58
Speaker 1: going to do the work I have to do sitting
1:19:59
Speaker 1: with you. We have another person coming on later. Knock
1:20:02
Speaker 1: out a couple of things for the show we have
1:20:03
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and then I'm gonna visualize, meditate. Get five
1:20:07
Speaker 1: to ten throws in today, five to ten quality. I'm
1:20:11
Speaker 1: not looking to rip it. I just want to feel
1:20:12
Speaker 1: the arm action. I want to feel my shoulders coming
1:20:14
Speaker 1: across the body. I want to feel the release point.
1:20:17
Speaker 1: And then hayz in the barn. Yeah, get ready, watch
1:20:21
Speaker 1: a little film on the flight, look over my notes,
1:20:24
Speaker 1: game plan, the whole entire thing. Lean on will tomorrow.
1:20:27
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lean on my boy a little bit. He's
1:20:29
Speaker 1: the one that's gonna be catching the pitch, and when
1:20:31
Speaker 1: time comes, I'm gonna grip it and rip. They people
1:20:34
Speaker 1: would go and take the easy way out. Just floated
1:20:38
Speaker 1: over there.
1:20:39
Speaker 2: Hey I did it.
1:20:40
Speaker 1: No, I've got to throw it. I've got to do
1:20:42
Speaker 1: full wind up. I've got to do exactly what I
1:20:44
Speaker 1: did in Saint Louis. But the ball's got to go
1:20:46
Speaker 1: down the middle.
1:20:46
Speaker 2: I respect it. I pull it for me and if
1:20:49
Speaker 2: I fail, Yeah, it's a win for me either way.
1:20:51
Speaker 3: I think it's a win. I don't think it's still
1:20:53
Speaker 3: your hands if if I fail.
1:20:54
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no, Well he kind of cut
1:20:56
Speaker 1: me off if I fail. Hey, if I fail, back
1:21:00
Speaker 1: to the drawing board, we go back again.
1:21:02
Speaker 2: Do you just keep hitting up big league parks until
1:21:04
Speaker 2: you throw a striking?
1:21:05
Speaker 1: Listen, yes, big league parks hit us up. They were like, hey,
1:21:08
Speaker 1: we want we want this here multiple teams. If I
1:21:11
Speaker 1: fail here, you bet your ass I'll be back again.
1:21:14
Speaker 2: Do you do a tour through the miners before you
1:21:16
Speaker 2: hit the big leagues again?
1:21:17
Speaker 1: That's been talked about. Yeah, it's been talked about. If
1:21:20
Speaker 1: I if I miss this pitch, Savannah BANANAZ will be
1:21:23
Speaker 1: my first call. Okay, sounds might be my second call.
1:21:28
Speaker 1: Sounds m sounds like we're ready, we're ready for your
1:21:30
Speaker 1: redemption in Nashville. To be honest, I wanted. I wanted
1:21:34
Speaker 1: a major league ballpark before I you know, i'd probably.
1:21:37
Speaker 3: Have to bend the needs.
1:21:38
Speaker 1: Okay, I need to go down to the miners. So
1:21:40
Speaker 1: if I fail this, I'll probably hell, I'll probably go
1:21:42
Speaker 1: to a little league for a little bit, start doing
1:21:44
Speaker 1: some coaches pitch for some kids for a little bit.
1:21:46
Speaker 1: Let them do their thing.
1:21:47
Speaker 2: Just step towards your target. Yeah, Just don't grip the
1:21:50
Speaker 2: ball too hard. Grip it and rip it, but don't
1:21:51
Speaker 2: grip it hard. Yeah, and just step towards your target. Right,
1:21:54
Speaker 2: you'll be fine.
1:21:55
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you.
1:21:56
Speaker 2: As we're talking about I'm getting more now, I might
1:21:59
Speaker 2: need the night quill.
1:22:02
Speaker 3: When we're on that plane and we land, we get
1:22:04
Speaker 3: to the stadium, it's going, uh yeah, it's gonna be
1:22:06
Speaker 3: a different feeling.
1:22:07
Speaker 1: And the thing too, is like we're doing a whole bunch.
1:22:08
Speaker 3: We're doing some fun things. We're doing VP.
1:22:10
Speaker 1: We're doing it like we're gonna have a bunch of
1:22:12
Speaker 1: content to do and it's like great fun. Yeah, I'm
1:22:15
Speaker 1: gonna try to be present for that. However, you know,
1:22:17
Speaker 1: in the back of your head, like when I was
1:22:19
Speaker 1: when I was playing football, it's like people would come in,
1:22:22
Speaker 1: they'd fly in. It's Nashville. Everybody wants to come and
1:22:24
Speaker 1: watch a game, so they come in. So every other
1:22:26
Speaker 1: weekend I have friends and family in town and they're
1:22:29
Speaker 1: wanting to hang out. But you get to Thursday. It's
1:22:31
Speaker 1: like I'm not here with you. I might physically be here,
1:22:34
Speaker 1: but mentally I'm thinking about this guy, his rush, what
1:22:38
Speaker 1: the defense does so the blitz come, so I can
1:22:40
Speaker 1: be more prepared for this guy studying inside instead of
1:22:42
Speaker 1: just talking to you about your work, because to be honest,
1:22:45
Speaker 1: I don't care right now, you know, no disrespect. I
1:22:48
Speaker 1: don't give a shit how work's going.
1:22:50
Speaker 2: You know, do you think that? So of course the
1:22:53
Speaker 2: normal person doesn't understand that. But just the concept of
1:22:56
Speaker 2: game day you talked about Thursday, Just take game day.
1:22:59
Speaker 2: I've alway thought if you could take a normal person,
1:23:03
Speaker 2: don't even have them go through reps during the week,
1:23:05
Speaker 2: don't have them go through film, don't have them do anything,
1:23:08
Speaker 2: but just walk them into the environment on Saturday, wake
1:23:11
Speaker 2: up at the hotel or Sunday, get on the bus,
1:23:14
Speaker 2: police escort into stadium and then just be on the
1:23:17
Speaker 2: field during warm ups. The sensory overload that is a
1:23:21
Speaker 2: big time college or pro environment. Just the hour pregame
1:23:26
Speaker 2: leading up and try and explain to that person, hey,
1:23:29
Speaker 2: you've got to go execute against professional football players after all.
1:23:33
Speaker 2: This to me, even just work in media, it takes
1:23:36
Speaker 2: a little while to get adjusted to how big the
1:23:39
Speaker 2: sensory overload is. As you can sit in a studio
1:23:41
Speaker 2: and do it. You can be on a practice field
1:23:42
Speaker 2: and doing it, but like executing in an arena on Saturday,
1:23:47
Speaker 2: on Sunday, coaching or playing just to be focused the
1:23:50
Speaker 2: level of focus you got to get to. And with
1:23:52
Speaker 2: a coach, they're not doing physical, physical, physical, physical, there's
1:23:55
Speaker 2: just mental mental, mental, mental to stay locked in. I've
1:23:58
Speaker 2: always appreciated folks who can do that.
1:24:00
Speaker 1: It's taking a regular person to do that. If you
1:24:03
Speaker 1: take a step further and give them the entire week
1:24:05
Speaker 1: of preparation, or like here's your playbook, here's your tendencies,
1:24:08
Speaker 1: here's your keys to victory. And you're basically studying for
1:24:11
Speaker 1: a test all week long, and then you add the
1:24:15
Speaker 1: police escort. Waking up in the morning, it's quiet in
1:24:18
Speaker 1: the chow hall. Everyone's sitting there having their omelets. Some
1:24:20
Speaker 1: guys can't eat, some guys can't. You get on the bus,
1:24:23
Speaker 1: music's just playing. You hear different genres of music going on.
1:24:26
Speaker 1: Some guys like to sit quietly, other guys are a
1:24:28
Speaker 1: little more loud. It's that nervous anxiousness. Then you get
1:24:31
Speaker 1: in the if you're on the first bus or there
1:24:33
Speaker 1: are two hours before the game starts, you're rolling out,
1:24:35
Speaker 1: you're stretching, everything's quiet, so and then you go out
1:24:38
Speaker 1: fans if it's an away game, they're yelling at you,
1:24:40
Speaker 1: screaming at you.
1:24:41
Speaker 3: Then you go to the pregame.
1:24:43
Speaker 1: Now the juices are really flowing because you have the
1:24:45
Speaker 1: full uniform on and you're going through and you don't
1:24:47
Speaker 1: want to over exert yourself, but you want to put
1:24:49
Speaker 1: enough effort into where you're loved up a little bit
1:24:51
Speaker 1: before you go in the locker room. The hardest part
1:24:53
Speaker 1: of every game is after warm ups, going into the
1:24:57
Speaker 1: locker room before the national anthem. That's the hardest part
1:24:59
Speaker 1: of every single football game because then you got guys
1:25:01
Speaker 1: that're with their notes. I'm sure Will was like this
1:25:03
Speaker 1: where he had his notes, his defensive calls, tendencies, these
1:25:06
Speaker 1: types of things. Some guys want to, you know, put
1:25:09
Speaker 1: the trap music on and then go to the prayer
1:25:11
Speaker 1: in the shower right after that and they're yelling at
1:25:12
Speaker 1: hoot and hollering. You got a guy in the corner
1:25:14
Speaker 1: that's throwing up like there's so many different things. And
1:25:17
Speaker 1: then you walk back out after being a part of
1:25:20
Speaker 1: warm ups with the stadium's twenty five percent full, so
1:25:23
Speaker 1: now it's one hundred percent full, and it's like you're
1:25:26
Speaker 1: walking to a fucking gauntlet. And then the national anthem
1:25:28
Speaker 1: hits your heart rates at one eight. He haven't even
1:25:30
Speaker 1: taken a snap yet, and you're just thinking to yourself,
1:25:32
Speaker 1: let me get this first shot out of the way.
1:25:34
Speaker 1: And once you get that, it's like, all right, we
1:25:35
Speaker 1: can get going the hardest part of the game. We're here, Yeah,
1:25:39
Speaker 1: we're here, right here, and we get to being able
1:25:43
Speaker 1: to sit and watch so much more fun.
1:25:46
Speaker 3: Yeah it is, yeah, so much more enjoyable to observe.
1:25:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that, boys really get his ass beat today.
1:25:51
Speaker 1: Being the guy that's getting his ass beat that day
1:25:53
Speaker 1: not fun.
1:25:54
Speaker 2: Winning like playing the game.
1:25:56
Speaker 1: You cannot be playing a football game and having that
1:25:59
Speaker 1: many people watch what you feel like you're the main attraction.
1:26:01
Speaker 1: Nobody else in the world cares about whatever's going on
1:26:04
Speaker 1: except for right here. But the pressure that comes with
1:26:07
Speaker 1: it can be overbearing, overbearing. So no, I don't think
1:26:11
Speaker 1: they're a regular person could handle that pressure a week
1:26:14
Speaker 1: in and week out, because then you go games over.
1:26:17
Speaker 3: Well, hey, if they were prepared for it, like when
1:26:21
Speaker 3: you say regular person, like if they had it's like
1:26:23
Speaker 3: he was given the analogy, like putting people in that
1:26:26
Speaker 3: environment with zero.
1:26:26
Speaker 1: Preparation and then they got to go do it. I
1:26:28
Speaker 1: feel like you have the you kind of have a
1:26:30
Speaker 1: fallback in your mind if you're not prepared or underprepared.
1:26:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when you're fully prepared for an entire week
1:26:36
Speaker 3: and the expectation is there and you're going over are
1:26:39
Speaker 3: they gonna get me here? Are they gonna motion empty?
1:26:41
Speaker 3: Are they gonna isolate me on third down? And trips
1:26:44
Speaker 3: far gun? Are they gonna do all these things that
1:26:46
Speaker 3: you are prepared for, but you're trying to figure out
1:26:49
Speaker 3: schematically what are they going to do to you? I
1:26:50
Speaker 3: feel like understanding that expatient expectation walking on the field
1:26:55
Speaker 3: as the national anthem's going on, and that fear that
1:26:57
Speaker 3: fight or flight is in your mind on just executing.
1:27:00
Speaker 3: I think having an entire week of being fully prepared
1:27:04
Speaker 3: and walking out there would be a different feeling than
1:27:06
Speaker 3: having zero preparation at all and then going out there
1:27:09
Speaker 3: you'd be scared, but you'd be able to fall back
1:27:12
Speaker 3: on you know, I didn't do anything to get to
1:27:15
Speaker 3: this more.
1:27:15
Speaker 1: I get to feel all this moment.
1:27:17
Speaker 3: But I feel like that anxiety and that fear that
1:27:18
Speaker 3: kicks in being fully prepared is the difference of with
1:27:22
Speaker 3: your analogy on putting somebody in that environment.
1:27:25
Speaker 2: I think the getting to the clearing of the mechanism
1:27:29
Speaker 2: headspace that you got to be in and you again,
1:27:32
Speaker 2: you could just as easily be talking about a quarterback
1:27:33
Speaker 2: as a play caller. The level of, like if there's
1:27:37
Speaker 2: a scale of one to ten maximum focus a human
1:27:40
Speaker 2: can have on a task at hand, getting to ten,
1:27:44
Speaker 2: getting there and on kickoff, being there, but then being
1:27:48
Speaker 2: there three and a half hours later, You've just been there.
1:27:51
Speaker 2: If you're good, if you're good at what your craft,
1:27:52
Speaker 2: at what you do, you're still there three and a
1:27:54
Speaker 2: half hours later, especially like if I'm watching Quarterback on Netflix.
1:27:57
Speaker 2: One of the things I appreciate the most is the
1:28:00
Speaker 2: prep is beyond insane. People would never understand it. You're
1:28:03
Speaker 2: going through, living the life, you're going through, being the
1:28:06
Speaker 2: face of a franchise, all that all right, So then
1:28:07
Speaker 2: you get to game day. You go through what you
1:28:09
Speaker 2: just talked about. First quarters over second quarters, over halftimes,
1:28:12
Speaker 2: over third quarter, fourth quarter. Most NFL games are decided
1:28:16
Speaker 2: maybe in the last ten minutes, last eight minutes, and
1:28:18
Speaker 2: to be that sharp and to be that zoned in
1:28:20
Speaker 2: at level ten, at level eleven with two minutes twelve
1:28:23
Speaker 2: seconds to go and it's third and eight, and you
1:28:26
Speaker 2: know these next two downs are going to determine the
1:28:28
Speaker 2: quality of life for the entire next week, for your
1:28:30
Speaker 2: entire locker room, not just you. And to still be
1:28:33
Speaker 2: that dialed in. I'm talking about maintaining that level of
1:28:36
Speaker 2: focus for three and a half or four hours at
1:28:39
Speaker 2: a time in that environment. That is what blows my
1:28:43
Speaker 2: mind that people can do it, But that's why most
1:28:46
Speaker 2: people can't do it.
1:28:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're also the preparation point. In twenty twenty, there
1:28:52
Speaker 1: was all the COVID stuff going on. We had a
1:28:54
Speaker 1: game we'rest supposed to play the Steelers, and then there's
1:28:57
Speaker 1: this big COVID outbreak at the Titans. So we do
1:28:59
Speaker 1: zo Zom calls all week long and like, hey, we're
1:29:02
Speaker 1: playing the Steels. We're gonna start preparing for these guys.
1:29:04
Speaker 1: This is the game plan is what's going on. That
1:29:06
Speaker 1: game gets canceled and they're like, hey, you're no longer
1:29:08
Speaker 1: playing the Steelers. Discounts as your bye week. Now you're
1:29:10
Speaker 1: playing the Bills.
1:29:11
Speaker 2: Yeah bye week.
1:29:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you guys are having a bye week.
1:29:14
Speaker 1: They put us in uh, like the Zoom calls. We
1:29:18
Speaker 1: go in one day for a walkthrough, and everyone is
1:29:22
Speaker 1: walking to that walk through with two thought processes. We're
1:29:24
Speaker 1: gonna get our ass beat or we're gonna beat ass.
1:29:26
Speaker 1: There's really no middle ground of what's going to happen
1:29:29
Speaker 1: because there's been so little preparation. The Bills just there
1:29:33
Speaker 1: was a release. Yeah, and we end up beating the
1:29:36
Speaker 1: ship out of the Bills like Zoom brought to you
1:29:39
Speaker 1: by Zoom. So that's where when you brought up the
1:29:41
Speaker 1: bring them in cold and just let them enjoy, like
1:29:44
Speaker 1: let them go through a game day. That's not the
1:29:47
Speaker 1: pressure that the pressure is you. You're given these coaches,
1:29:50
Speaker 1: if they're good coaches, are giving you the answers to
1:29:52
Speaker 1: the test all week long. You've studied it, you've repped
1:29:55
Speaker 1: it countless times.
1:29:57
Speaker 2: Now you have to go and do it.
1:29:58
Speaker 1: And because they told you this this and you have
1:30:01
Speaker 1: to succeed. You have to do these three things off
1:30:03
Speaker 1: its defense special teams, so nine total key points. You
1:30:06
Speaker 1: do those things, you're going to succeed. Then you have
1:30:09
Speaker 1: the results of the game. If you succeeded, it's great
1:30:12
Speaker 1: with these are what we checked off.
1:30:13
Speaker 3: This is what we can do better.
1:30:14
Speaker 1: If you lose, it's like we gave you the answer
1:30:16
Speaker 1: to the test. You guys failed to test.
1:30:19
Speaker 2: Then now people are gonna rip us all week because yes,
1:30:22
Speaker 2: when you go into that game where we.
1:30:23
Speaker 1: Play the Bills, it's like, truly that's what you walk
1:30:27
Speaker 1: into that game and you're like, yeah, we're probably gonna
1:30:28
Speaker 1: get murdered today because no one's done a whole lot.
1:30:31
Speaker 1: We got fifteen guys on COVID, we've been on zoom
1:30:33
Speaker 1: the whole time. We did a jog through and that
1:30:36
Speaker 1: was the.
1:30:36
Speaker 2: One thing we did in a ten day span, and.
1:30:38
Speaker 1: All the players, we're in our position groups just going
1:30:40
Speaker 1: to like a local park separately and the player it's
1:30:43
Speaker 1: just all player led, like, hey, let's go. Coach wanted
1:30:45
Speaker 1: us to go over this stuff.
1:30:46
Speaker 2: Yes, has any good documentary been done yet on the
1:30:49
Speaker 2: COVID year needs to.
1:30:50
Speaker 1: I have not seen one.
1:30:52
Speaker 2: Look at the score at this game forty two to sixteen.
1:30:55
Speaker 1: After that, we're basically we're in the locker room.
1:30:58
Speaker 2: To intense the boys more practice.
1:31:04
Speaker 1: We don't, Hey, we don't, we don't got to do
1:31:06
Speaker 1: this anywhere, any place, anytime. Yeah, and we did it,
1:31:10
Speaker 1: like with the proof is right there against Josh Allen
1:31:13
Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills. The hardest thing, The hardest thing
1:31:16
Speaker 1: is not like that week is really hard. The preparation
1:31:20
Speaker 1: is really hard. It's having a result, good, bad, or indifferent.
1:31:23
Speaker 2: How you played? How do you do next week?
1:31:26
Speaker 1: That is That's That's the true scale of a of
1:31:29
Speaker 1: a great football player. It's like, can you do it
1:31:32
Speaker 1: consistently seventeen times and then having a bye week and
1:31:35
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have an injury, You're gonna be sore.
1:31:37
Speaker 1: How do you replicate a good game? How do you
1:31:40
Speaker 1: get rid of the bad games? How do you take
1:31:41
Speaker 1: the coaching? How do you get ego out of the way.
1:31:43
Speaker 1: It's a it's so much more in depth than people
1:31:47
Speaker 1: think that it really is. Even that quarterback shows, because
1:31:50
Speaker 1: quarterback shows like they're doing practice and then it's like
1:31:52
Speaker 1: a blip, It's a five minute blip, and then they're
1:31:55
Speaker 1: out with their their wives and they're going over the plays.
1:31:57
Speaker 1: Like Jared Goff, his wife's reading in the place. It's like, yeah,
1:31:59
Speaker 1: he does that. Probably when those cameras turned off, he's
1:32:01
Speaker 1: like came out of here, right, he's upstairs go to
1:32:03
Speaker 1: work now, Yeah, yeah, and.
1:32:04
Speaker 2: I'm gone all day long.
1:32:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy enough about us though. Yeah, let's get
1:32:11
Speaker 3: into Josh Paate didn't play. How are you growing your
1:32:17
Speaker 3: brand your style on camera when you're also factoring in
1:32:21
Speaker 3: the play factor Because a lot of people, a lot
1:32:23
Speaker 3: of haters, that'll be one of the first things they
1:32:26
Speaker 3: come at if you miss anywhere or get something wrong,
1:32:31
Speaker 3: as they'll talk about you know, they can talk about
1:32:33
Speaker 3: your reputation of being able to play.
1:32:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I would say former players miss
1:32:37
Speaker 2: all the time too, Like who in the world I
1:32:39
Speaker 2: would I would take former coaches. I mean, no one
1:32:41
Speaker 2: knows the game better than a guy who played and
1:32:45
Speaker 2: then coached. You've seen the game from every angle, You've
1:32:48
Speaker 2: experienced it from every angle. Right, find me that guy
1:32:51
Speaker 2: who is now making a living betting football, because if
1:32:55
Speaker 2: it's really if that's the shortcut, that find me anyone
1:32:58
Speaker 2: who's sitting behind a desk. There are a million former
1:33:01
Speaker 2: players and former coaches who are in studios on Sunday
1:33:03
Speaker 2: and Saturday. They pick games, don't they. I Mean it's
1:33:06
Speaker 2: all public, Like which one of them's knocking it out
1:33:08
Speaker 2: of the park seventy plus percent against the spread. So
1:33:10
Speaker 2: clearly there's more to understanding or digesting the game than
1:33:15
Speaker 2: just having played it. But make no mistake, I'd love
1:33:17
Speaker 2: to have had a fifteen year career playing for the
1:33:19
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons. I mean that definitely gives you name and
1:33:22
Speaker 2: brand recognition. You have a deeper and more nuanced understanding
1:33:25
Speaker 2: of the game. There's no substitute for that. But when
1:33:29
Speaker 2: you walk in a stadium on Saturday, or when you
1:33:32
Speaker 2: fire this video up and you look at the viewership
1:33:34
Speaker 2: of it, ninety nine percent of the people in the
1:33:36
Speaker 2: audience never played. So who are you stacking your show for?
1:33:39
Speaker 2: Are you stacking your show for former players or are
1:33:41
Speaker 2: you stacking your show for the millions upon millions of
1:33:44
Speaker 2: people who are going to watch or listen. The answer
1:33:46
Speaker 2: to me, at least, is I want to build the
1:33:49
Speaker 2: show for the audience that I want consuming the show,
1:33:52
Speaker 2: which means we're going to talk about the game. But
1:33:55
Speaker 2: the key is not, hey, did you play the game?
1:33:57
Speaker 2: The key is do people care what you have to say? So,
1:34:00
Speaker 2: like when I'll go and speak at colleges, they'll ask
1:34:03
Speaker 2: for advice. There was that symposium in Nashville last week.
1:34:05
Speaker 2: There were a lot of people here from college football,
1:34:07
Speaker 2: and some of them wanted to get into media, and
1:34:09
Speaker 2: they were saying, what's your biggest piece of advice? And
1:34:11
Speaker 2: I always ask the same question, cause someone asked this
1:34:14
Speaker 2: question to me. They said, why would anyone care what
1:34:16
Speaker 2: you have to say? And it was just like awkward
1:34:19
Speaker 2: silence when I got asked that question, because it sounded
1:34:22
Speaker 2: like a trick question. It sounded like they were trying
1:34:23
Speaker 2: to dunk on me or something like that. They were
1:34:25
Speaker 2: They were given the most honest, brutal piece of feedback ever,
1:34:29
Speaker 2: and that is, if no one cares what you have
1:34:31
Speaker 2: to say, it doesn't matter what you know. It doesn't
1:34:33
Speaker 2: matter where you played, it doesn't matter where you coach,
1:34:35
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what your IQ is. Nothing doesn't matter
1:34:37
Speaker 2: how great your THUMBNAILS and SEO is. If no one
1:34:39
Speaker 2: cares what you have to say, no one's gonna watch
1:34:42
Speaker 2: you or listen to you. So how do you make
1:34:44
Speaker 2: people care what you have to say? That's the most
1:34:45
Speaker 2: inexact science in our business. But I think the best
1:34:49
Speaker 2: cheap code is be your audience. Like I grew up
1:34:53
Speaker 2: with my audience, I am of my audience. I go
1:34:56
Speaker 2: eat barbecue on Tuesday afternoon with my audience. I always
1:34:59
Speaker 2: have because like my social circle growing up, that's exactly
1:35:03
Speaker 2: who I tailored my show towards because that is the
1:35:05
Speaker 2: mass college football public. I mean, that's a guy that's
1:35:08
Speaker 2: roofing down in Lagrange, Georgia from nine to five every day.
1:35:11
Speaker 2: That's a guy driving a cement truck in Topeka, Kansas.
1:35:13
Speaker 2: That's your audience. Your audiences in former players. So when
1:35:17
Speaker 2: people do that a lot of times it's more born
1:35:19
Speaker 2: out of insecurity, because like, no dude with a huge
1:35:22
Speaker 2: following who's a former player ever dunks on me for
1:35:25
Speaker 2: not being a former player. It's people I've never heard
1:35:27
Speaker 2: of before who were in defense mechanism mode. They're like
1:35:30
Speaker 2: in wounded animal mode because they haven't really found a
1:35:32
Speaker 2: path for themselves. And so it's like, what can I
1:35:34
Speaker 2: say about this dude? Let me think, let me think
1:35:36
Speaker 2: he didn't play like cool? How'd you find outut about me?
1:35:39
Speaker 2: Other than I say it every week? How'd you find
1:35:41
Speaker 2: that out? So it doesn't it doesn't really am stringy
1:35:44
Speaker 2: all that much.
1:35:48
Speaker 3: I mean, you bring up a good point, because again,
1:35:50
Speaker 3: the people who would do it would be would be
1:35:53
Speaker 3: like players, the people who played the game.
1:35:55
Speaker 2: Like Greg Olsen's not dunking on me because I didn't play, yea,
1:35:58
Speaker 2: like the guys who have made it as former players,
1:36:01
Speaker 2: they're not the ones throwing that at you. The ones
1:36:03
Speaker 2: throwing that at you are like Tiger Boy three six
1:36:06
Speaker 2: at two thirty in the morning with thirty six followers
1:36:08
Speaker 2: you didn't play. Why would I listen to you?
1:36:09
Speaker 1: I think that's one of Sherman's burners.
1:36:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't ask you to listen to me.
1:36:12
Speaker 3: Actually, going off of that though, I think you said
1:36:15
Speaker 3: something really good there to where you're curating your content
1:36:18
Speaker 3: and your stuff, your own unique self to a former
1:36:21
Speaker 3: self of yours that was in the social circles. How
1:36:25
Speaker 3: have you curated your content and built out your content
1:36:29
Speaker 3: knowing what your strengths are and trying to stay away
1:36:31
Speaker 3: from what your your weaknesses might be.
1:36:33
Speaker 2: Well, listen first off, so listen to people like, listen
1:36:37
Speaker 2: to what they want to talk about. Don't be stupid
1:36:39
Speaker 2: enough to ever get on a grease board and start
1:36:41
Speaker 2: talking x's and TH's because I've got no business doing that.
1:36:43
Speaker 2: And if we if we really find that the audience
1:36:45
Speaker 2: wants that, I'll go find someone to do it on
1:36:48
Speaker 2: our platform, and then stay true to what it is
1:36:51
Speaker 2: you promise people, Like, if you promise to be college
1:36:53
Speaker 2: football all year, present college football all year, don't do
1:36:57
Speaker 2: it through January or February, and then all of a
1:36:59
Speaker 2: sudden go twenty percent into politics or go thirty percent
1:37:03
Speaker 2: over towards some secret passion you have that your audience
1:37:06
Speaker 2: didn't sign up to listen to you talk about. The
1:37:08
Speaker 2: only difference with that is, like I go stormchasing a
1:37:10
Speaker 2: lot in the spring, and we found that there is
1:37:12
Speaker 2: broad fascination with stormchasing because I would drop nuggets about
1:37:16
Speaker 2: it on our show and we would get thousands and
1:37:19
Speaker 2: thousands of requests. Hey, talk about that more in the spring.
1:37:22
Speaker 2: I'd rather listen to that than updates on Northwestern's offensive line.
1:37:25
Speaker 2: So that's the one exception where I've maybe deviated twenty
1:37:28
Speaker 2: percent off college football, and it's in the middle of
1:37:30
Speaker 2: the spring when there's no games going on anyway. But otherwise,
1:37:33
Speaker 2: just stay true to what you promise. It's like really simple.
1:37:36
Speaker 2: People screw it up all the time, and it's so
1:37:38
Speaker 2: simple to just define, like what's the overlap of your
1:37:42
Speaker 2: passion and your talent? For me, thankfully, it was talking
1:37:45
Speaker 2: about college football, and then just stay there. That's where
1:37:47
Speaker 2: your career is. That's how it never becomes a job.
1:37:49
Speaker 2: It's just a career because you're doing what you would
1:37:51
Speaker 2: do for free. You happen to be doing it for
1:37:53
Speaker 2: a living, and fingers cross. People like it. Okay, check
1:37:57
Speaker 2: they do. Don't be stupid, don't screw it up. Just
1:38:00
Speaker 2: keep delivering what it is they're telling you through their
1:38:02
Speaker 2: engagement and viewership and listenership that they want.
1:38:06
Speaker 3: You talked about staying in your lane.
1:38:08
Speaker 1: It has obviously, like we all have so much bandwidth
1:38:11
Speaker 1: per week, per day to be able to accomplish certain
1:38:14
Speaker 1: things with our shows, our ambitions, what we want to do.
1:38:16
Speaker 1: Have you ever been approached to it in a sense
1:38:18
Speaker 1: that people want you to keep doing what you're doing,
1:38:20
Speaker 1: but at a higher scale, maybe going on some major
1:38:23
Speaker 1: networks or something like that, where you had to evaluate
1:38:25
Speaker 1: and be like, Okay, would this take away from my
1:38:28
Speaker 1: enjoyment from what I truly.
1:38:29
Speaker 2: Enjoy every year for the past three years, that's happened
1:38:33
Speaker 2: a lot.
1:38:33
Speaker 1: Nice this past example, well, this past I mean.
1:38:36
Speaker 2: This past spring, it happened a lot. I mean, you know,
1:38:39
Speaker 2: in our world, you don't work in terms of calendar years.
1:38:42
Speaker 2: You work in terms of football seasons, so it's kind
1:38:45
Speaker 2: of like a fiscal year, which I never understood what
1:38:47
Speaker 2: that was because I was broke, So I do understand
1:38:50
Speaker 2: it now a little bit more. And my world, the
1:38:52
Speaker 2: calendar is August through February, and then you negotiate all
1:38:58
Speaker 2: your stuff in spring. So like this past spring, I mean,
1:39:02
Speaker 2: there were several networks, Hey, would you be willing to
1:39:04
Speaker 2: do your show five days a week and take stupid
1:39:08
Speaker 2: money for us to put it on our platforms or
1:39:11
Speaker 2: behind a paywall, and so, hey, man, money's great, but
1:39:15
Speaker 2: we already make enough of it, and I'm doing my
1:39:17
Speaker 2: show three days a week. And the trade off there is,
1:39:20
Speaker 2: like we went ninety minutes last night hardcore in depth,
1:39:24
Speaker 2: like a impact ton of information in that, Like I
1:39:28
Speaker 2: think that I could have gone four hours if I
1:39:30
Speaker 2: wanted to spread that out. Well, the only way we
1:39:32
Speaker 2: can do that is to do it every other day
1:39:33
Speaker 2: instead of every day. And the audience consumption rate says
1:39:37
Speaker 2: that's good because we get bulk majority of our engagement
1:39:40
Speaker 2: on replay traffic the next day anyway, So if we
1:39:43
Speaker 2: were trying to deliver that every night, we'd be delivering
1:39:45
Speaker 2: a watered down version of that. We wouldn't really be
1:39:48
Speaker 2: ever giving one hundred percent what were capable. It would
1:39:51
Speaker 2: just be like seventy five percent, but a lot more
1:39:53
Speaker 2: of it. And really you would have just sold out
1:39:55
Speaker 2: for a paycheck anyway. And if I was in dire straits,
1:39:58
Speaker 2: like maybe a network comes along, I've got to think
1:40:00
Speaker 2: about doing that for two or three years to set
1:40:02
Speaker 2: myself up financially. But if you're doing okay or better
1:40:06
Speaker 2: for yourself, I've said no every year to that stuff.
1:40:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are your personal non negotiables like when you're
1:40:12
Speaker 3: thinking of I'm doing just fine, doing what I'm doing
1:40:15
Speaker 3: well to where you don't get that that dangling carrot.
1:40:18
Speaker 2: I don't want to wear suits on air fair.
1:40:21
Speaker 1: I don't most about locker room. This year, we're changing
1:40:23
Speaker 1: the wardrobe really yeah, full he said, a tear off
1:40:27
Speaker 1: at least every other week. It's actually T shirts, T
1:40:32
Speaker 1: shirt suits.
1:40:32
Speaker 2: I got in a big fight about this with a
1:40:35
Speaker 2: local TV general manager one time because the way I
1:40:38
Speaker 2: the way I started was like he called me cold.
1:40:40
Speaker 2: Never met him. He said, Hey, I run a local
1:40:43
Speaker 2: news affiliate, like an NBC affiliate. Do you want to
1:40:46
Speaker 2: do a late night college football show, like no one's
1:40:48
Speaker 2: gonna watch it, but you'll be on TV, you'll get reps,
1:40:50
Speaker 2: hopefully you'll build something. But the non negotiable was, hey, man,
1:40:54
Speaker 2: if you're on my if you're on my desk, you
1:40:55
Speaker 2: got to wear a suit, which was fair, like it's
1:40:57
Speaker 2: his platform. But I love the dude like I love
1:41:00
Speaker 2: him today. But we would argue back and forth because
1:41:02
Speaker 2: he was old school, he was from traditional news, and
1:41:05
Speaker 2: he's like, you cannot wear T shirts on TV and
1:41:08
Speaker 2: be taken seriously. And I said, I can't report on
1:41:11
Speaker 2: a triple homicide we're in a T shirt and be
1:41:14
Speaker 2: taken seriously. I can talk about Alabama versus Georgia Saturday
1:41:18
Speaker 2: in a T shirt, and I promise you the audience
1:41:19
Speaker 2: we're trying to reach will consume it. Just fine. So hey,
1:41:22
Speaker 2: I'm on his dimes, so I'm going to do it
1:41:23
Speaker 2: his way. But as soon as we got to wear
1:41:25
Speaker 2: we owned it and we controlled it. I said, I'm
1:41:27
Speaker 2: not putting a suit on again, not doing it unless
1:41:30
Speaker 2: I am working national championship coverage or something like that.
1:41:33
Speaker 2: Like when I was with CBS, I'd go up to
1:41:35
Speaker 2: New York and do their inside college football show. I
1:41:37
Speaker 2: respect them, that's their show. I'll wear a suit, but
1:41:39
Speaker 2: on my stuff, I'm not wearing a suit. I don't
1:41:42
Speaker 2: want to have anybody touch creative control of the show,
1:41:45
Speaker 2: so I want to be executive producer of it and
1:41:47
Speaker 2: have full final say. I want to have personal relationships
1:41:50
Speaker 2: with the advertising partners instead of being told, hey, you're
1:41:53
Speaker 2: partnering with this brand, because I want to present stuff
1:41:55
Speaker 2: that is authentic to the brand. So those are a
1:41:58
Speaker 2: few of the non negotiables I guess, and to not
1:41:59
Speaker 2: have to touch anything other than college football.
1:42:01
Speaker 3: Quick break from the episode to bring you Form Energy
1:42:04
Speaker 3: Form Energy delivers best in class taste with natural flavors
1:42:08
Speaker 3: and zero sugar. Form Energy has natural caffeine derived from
1:42:12
Speaker 3: green tea, and Form comes in a variety of flavors
1:42:15
Speaker 3: like Screaming Eagle that is rocket pop inspired, Great Smash,
1:42:18
Speaker 3: Blue Blitz, Orange Fury. Perfect for those who put in
1:42:22
Speaker 3: the work, or for the person who wakes up in
1:42:24
Speaker 3: the morning, gets a workout in, puts in a full
1:42:25
Speaker 3: day of work, and still gives it their all when
1:42:27
Speaker 3: they come home, whether they're putting on the Dad had
1:42:29
Speaker 3: or putting on the best friend hat or husband hat.
1:42:32
Speaker 3: White hat, whatever the case may be, form energy, we
1:42:35
Speaker 3: do the work back to the episode. What is your
1:42:39
Speaker 3: I guess we can say that for the bud light question.
1:42:42
Speaker 3: Oh you got Nebraska in your college football playoff? Yeah, man,
1:42:47
Speaker 3: hold it before you start talking.
1:42:48
Speaker 1: Sorry, I just because I know we're going to get
1:42:50
Speaker 1: to ball in a second. But I did hear a
1:42:51
Speaker 1: juicy story in our pre production meeting about you getting
1:42:56
Speaker 1: into the space of sports media where you went and
1:42:59
Speaker 1: you DMed company.
1:43:01
Speaker 3: It was a radio station.
1:43:02
Speaker 1: Yep, you went and got a job. You're kind of
1:43:04
Speaker 1: doing You're you're doing a little bit of bitch work.
1:43:06
Speaker 1: You're kind of rolling stuff. Somebody gets hurt car accident
1:43:09
Speaker 1: or something like that, and they're like, we gotta we
1:43:11
Speaker 1: gotta thrust somebody into this and ends up being you
1:43:14
Speaker 1: that goes on the station and they're like, you were
1:43:16
Speaker 1: so great that they made you a mainstay on the show.
1:43:18
Speaker 1: Is their truth and validity to that?
1:43:20
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of truth. So it was just
1:43:21
Speaker 2: the guy had a cold. Car wreck sounds better though. Yeah,
1:43:23
Speaker 2: So guy got a call. I was told car wreck.
1:43:25
Speaker 3: I was actually told broken lagas.
1:43:26
Speaker 2: I don't know if he made it.
1:43:29
Speaker 1: He didn't have night quill.
1:43:30
Speaker 2: It was a bad deal.
1:43:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
1:43:32
Speaker 2: It was a bad deal. I understand. So I'm working.
1:43:35
Speaker 2: I had worked construction down at Columbus, Georgia. I was
1:43:37
Speaker 2: in a fabric warehouse at this time, and I was
1:43:40
Speaker 2: listening to talk radio. Like I would listen to Colin Cowherd'
1:43:42
Speaker 2: show every day. He was an ESPN radio. It's fantastic.
1:43:44
Speaker 2: Oh here, we get me to lunch every day, Like
1:43:46
Speaker 2: that's how I got myself to lunch. And then the
1:43:48
Speaker 2: afternoon that was when like Risillo and Scott man Pelt
1:43:51
Speaker 2: had a show. It was a really good stretch of radio.
1:43:53
Speaker 2: So I just listened to it all day every day,
1:43:54
Speaker 2: and I'm telling myself, that's what i want to do.
1:43:56
Speaker 2: That's what I want to do. That's what i want
1:43:57
Speaker 2: to do. I'm also telling myself, I've got no way in.
1:44:00
Speaker 2: I've got no way in. I've got no way in.
1:44:01
Speaker 2: But I remember Saban had just gotten Alabama. It was
1:44:05
Speaker 2: like the second years at Obama. He comes to Columbus.
1:44:07
Speaker 2: He does like a public speaking tour, forty five dollars
1:44:10
Speaker 2: entry fee. I can't afford it. I borrow money to
1:44:13
Speaker 2: get a ticket to go see Saban speak and He
1:44:16
Speaker 2: talked about process oriented thinking. He talked a lot about
1:44:20
Speaker 2: how defining your goals but then totally setting them aside
1:44:23
Speaker 2: and just focusing on the process. That's the key to success.
1:44:26
Speaker 2: And it's not like he was the first person I'd
1:44:28
Speaker 2: ever heard say that. He's the one who made it
1:44:30
Speaker 2: clip for me. So I'm sitting there in that warehouse
1:44:32
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, you know, he had also talked about
1:44:35
Speaker 2: doing an inventory of your time. Are you investing time
1:44:38
Speaker 2: or are you just spending time? Look at your typical day,
1:44:40
Speaker 2: what period of the day is being spent. You're not
1:44:43
Speaker 2: getting anything back from that that you could repurpose. So
1:44:45
Speaker 2: I figured out I was driving in my truck like
1:44:47
Speaker 2: an hour and a half every day to and from work,
1:44:49
Speaker 2: to and from class. So I decided the way, I'm
1:44:52
Speaker 2: gonna take back some of my time and I'm gonna
1:44:54
Speaker 2: mute the radio. I'm not going to listen to anything
1:44:56
Speaker 2: in the car, and I'm just going to simulate sports
1:44:58
Speaker 2: talk radio. So I just talked to my stick and
1:45:00
Speaker 2: will hours and hours and hours and hours. I would
1:45:02
Speaker 2: just simulate like I would turn on the radio. Cowherd
1:45:04
Speaker 2: brings a segment in from break mute it I take
1:45:07
Speaker 2: over for him, and I had thousands upon thousands of
1:45:10
Speaker 2: hours over two or three years of doing that to
1:45:12
Speaker 2: where I begged that radio producer could you let me
1:45:16
Speaker 2: come in and observe. Finally he lets me come in
1:45:19
Speaker 2: because I'd never seen live production happen before. So I
1:45:21
Speaker 2: sat in that studio like two months and one day
1:45:24
Speaker 2: car crash aka dude get sick five minutes before airtime.
1:45:27
Speaker 2: He has no advance warning. He says, do you just
1:45:29
Speaker 2: want to hop on air today? It was the middle
1:45:31
Speaker 2: of college football season in the South. It was an
1:45:34
Speaker 2: afternoon drive caller based talk show. So I hopped on
1:45:38
Speaker 2: just killed it. Great synergy, great chemistry, and the dude
1:45:42
Speaker 2: thought I had been doing it for a long time.
1:45:44
Speaker 2: After the show, he was like, where did you say
1:45:45
Speaker 2: you've worked before? I said, well, I've actually never been
1:45:48
Speaker 2: on air before. However, I kind of do a version
1:45:51
Speaker 2: of this every day in my truck like a psychopath.
1:45:53
Speaker 2: So he never took me off air. And then you
1:45:55
Speaker 2: fast forward two years and that's when that news station
1:45:58
Speaker 2: GM hit me up. So then I go work local
1:46:00
Speaker 2: TV and then I start getting towards the end of
1:46:03
Speaker 2: a contract and like I'm seeing YouTube come of age.
1:46:06
Speaker 2: I'm seeing Facebook live as a thing. I know where
1:46:09
Speaker 2: the industry's going. I see those Berlin walls coming down.
1:46:12
Speaker 2: I know that if you got internet, unlike maybe five
1:46:17
Speaker 2: years prior, you could make it like you can make
1:46:19
Speaker 2: a career for yourself. They wouldn't let me do it
1:46:20
Speaker 2: because I was on an employment deal at the news station,
1:46:23
Speaker 2: and you can't be creating your own content. It's a
1:46:25
Speaker 2: breach of contract. So I let my contract run to
1:46:27
Speaker 2: the last day and they sit me down general manager
1:46:30
Speaker 2: right there, news director right there, and they said, we've
1:46:34
Speaker 2: been calling your bluff, like you've been saying you're going
1:46:36
Speaker 2: to let your contract run out. We just thought you
1:46:38
Speaker 2: were bsing us for more money, which we don't have.
1:46:41
Speaker 2: So I was at I was at twenty seven five
1:46:43
Speaker 2: per year and I was at thirty per year, and
1:46:46
Speaker 2: they said, what are you going to do? You were
1:46:48
Speaker 2: really gonna leave? I said, yeah, I'm gonna leave. They said,
1:46:50
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? I'm gonna start a YouTube channel.
1:46:52
Speaker 2: And they just laughed, not even like a disrespectful laugh,
1:46:55
Speaker 2: just like, oh, you poor thing, like you don't know
1:46:57
Speaker 2: what you're doing. Don't don't screw your life up, said
1:47:00
Speaker 2: you can't monetize that. How are you gonna make money?
1:47:02
Speaker 2: Because no one was monetizing YouTube at the time. And
1:47:05
Speaker 2: I said, well, I think the industry is about to
1:47:06
Speaker 2: change pretty quickly, Like it's very obvious where viewership trends
1:47:10
Speaker 2: are going, AD dollars will follow that. They didn't buy it,
1:47:13
Speaker 2: so I negotiated to stay with them as a ten
1:47:16
Speaker 2: ninety nine independent contractor, making like fractions of what I
1:47:19
Speaker 2: was making, and I was already making nothing. But the
1:47:21
Speaker 2: trade off I negotiated was give me the studio three
1:47:24
Speaker 2: nights a week to do my own show out of
1:47:26
Speaker 2: and we agreed on that. So we launched the YouTube
1:47:29
Speaker 2: channel and we were doing a college football show. That's
1:47:32
Speaker 2: it right there. That's like a first version of it,
1:47:34
Speaker 2: three nights a week out of the news station, and
1:47:37
Speaker 2: it blew up an in two years, CBS called, So
1:47:40
Speaker 2: we've been here ever since.
1:47:41
Speaker 1: No shit, Oh that is amazing. That's an incredible story.
1:47:44
Speaker 2: It was a unique way to start doing it. Like
1:47:46
Speaker 2: that microphone's clearly not plugged in. I'm clearly wearing a
1:47:49
Speaker 2: lot of myc that's clearly just an aesthetic I bought
1:47:52
Speaker 2: off Amazon. Yeah, but yeah, that was a that was
1:47:55
Speaker 2: a weird, weird way to do it, but it was
1:47:57
Speaker 2: the only way I could do it. That's the only
1:47:59
Speaker 2: way I saw end.
1:48:00
Speaker 1: It's so interesting the way you bring up Nick Saban's
1:48:02
Speaker 1: conversation about the process. Yep, and a lot of people
1:48:06
Speaker 1: hear those conversations all the time about how you should
1:48:08
Speaker 1: handle your time, put your goals to a side. Like
1:48:10
Speaker 1: that conversation takes place a lot in a kid's childhood
1:48:13
Speaker 1: and as a young adult, I feel like something has
1:48:16
Speaker 1: to happen to you, whether it's borrowing forty five dollars
1:48:19
Speaker 1: and realizing I have to borrow forty five dollars to
1:48:21
Speaker 1: go hear this person talk for it to finally like
1:48:23
Speaker 1: resonate with somebody.
1:48:25
Speaker 2: And I think.
1:48:25
Speaker 1: That's just awesome that people who listen to this show
1:48:28
Speaker 1: listen to other shows. They'll hear a bunch of nuggets
1:48:30
Speaker 1: all the time. But it takes a certain perception and
1:48:33
Speaker 1: you have to be going through something for it to
1:48:35
Speaker 1: really like set inside your body.
1:48:37
Speaker 2: Do something else happened to me, So when I was
1:48:38
Speaker 2: working in that fabric warehouse, this was all within a
1:48:40
Speaker 2: three month period. The whole Saban comes to Town thing
1:48:44
Speaker 2: like the same two or three month period. The guy
1:48:46
Speaker 2: who owned the fabric warehouse name was David Rothchild, ultra
1:48:50
Speaker 2: wealthy family had made a fortunate textiles. Columbus is a
1:48:53
Speaker 2: textile like an old milltown. So he was dying of cancer,
1:48:58
Speaker 2: and he had always taken a liking to me. I'm
1:49:00
Speaker 2: working back in his warehouse. I don't see him that
1:49:02
Speaker 2: much except when he comes through there, like once a day,
1:49:03
Speaker 2: but he'd always taken a liking to me. He would
1:49:05
Speaker 2: always catch up with me. I had not finished college
1:49:08
Speaker 2: at that point, and he would like, nicely but very forcefully,
1:49:11
Speaker 2: tell me you're screwing your life up, like you've got ability.
1:49:15
Speaker 2: He saw way more in me than I saw in myself,
1:49:17
Speaker 2: and so he promised me, like, if you'll I'm going
1:49:21
Speaker 2: to die, like I am not going to see this through,
1:49:24
Speaker 2: but I will pay for your school if you will
1:49:25
Speaker 2: get back in school. And like, simultaneous to that, the
1:49:28
Speaker 2: director of the communication department at Columbus State University's just
1:49:32
Speaker 2: hammering me via email. She doesn't know, she's not related
1:49:35
Speaker 2: to me, she doesn't owe me that, but she's hitting
1:49:37
Speaker 2: me up saying get back in school, Like I'll get
1:49:39
Speaker 2: you back in school. We're gonna have a radio and
1:49:40
Speaker 2: TV program over here. You could do all the reps
1:49:43
Speaker 2: that you need over here. And so all that stuff
1:49:45
Speaker 2: happens over a three month period and you realize, like
1:49:47
Speaker 2: you've got to be a total and complete idiot not
1:49:50
Speaker 2: to see that there is something slash, someone trying to
1:49:55
Speaker 2: kick you in the right direction. And so that all,
1:49:58
Speaker 2: like that's what it's overteen years ago. But that's all
1:50:01
Speaker 2: a confluence of events. And like I always heard people
1:50:05
Speaker 2: say right place, right time, I always question that, Like
1:50:08
Speaker 2: I changed my thinking because of all this. I changed
1:50:11
Speaker 2: my thinking too, where being in the right place is
1:50:14
Speaker 2: where you want to be so that eventually the right
1:50:16
Speaker 2: time finds you. I changed my thinking because of like that.
1:50:19
Speaker 2: It's just like I changed my thinking on here and
1:50:21
Speaker 2: save and say stuff like that. I used to hear it,
1:50:23
Speaker 2: and I thought those statements where a diamond does. And
1:50:25
Speaker 2: that's like fortune cookie logic looks good on a bumper sticker,
1:50:29
Speaker 2: but it's coach speak. It's cliches. It's just people go
1:50:32
Speaker 2: into motivational speaking seminars near the airport and someone fooled
1:50:35
Speaker 2: them into buying a ticket. No, man, that stuff works,
1:50:38
Speaker 2: It's just hardly anyone applies it. Yeah, if you apply it,
1:50:41
Speaker 2: it works for everybody. That's the beauty of it. It
1:50:43
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you want to get in this or
1:50:45
Speaker 2: you want to go like start a new insurance company
1:50:47
Speaker 2: and make a fortune over there. Like, if that's what
1:50:49
Speaker 2: you're called to do, you can do it. It's just
1:50:51
Speaker 2: not going to happen overnight, and it's a good thing.
1:50:52
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen overnight, or everyone would do it.
1:50:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, when all this is happening around you, what do
1:50:57
Speaker 3: you feel like when you look back on it? What
1:50:58
Speaker 3: do you feel like you weren't saying?
1:51:04
Speaker 2: I feel like the thing I appreciate the most looking
1:51:07
Speaker 2: back on it because I journaled a lot through this period.
1:51:09
Speaker 2: I'd never done that before, but I knew what I'm
1:51:12
Speaker 2: going through now, Like I got a victim from my apartment.
1:51:15
Speaker 2: It was not it was not a great time. It's
1:51:18
Speaker 2: it turns out good, but it's not a good time.
1:51:20
Speaker 2: And I realized, one way or the other, I'm gonna
1:51:23
Speaker 2: want a record of this. So like, I journaled a
1:51:25
Speaker 2: lot of it, and I look back on it now,
1:51:26
Speaker 2: and the one thing I kept saying is I got
1:51:28
Speaker 2: no clue how this is going to turn out. I
1:51:30
Speaker 2: got no clue how I'm going to make this bill
1:51:32
Speaker 2: the next month. I got no clue here and no
1:51:34
Speaker 2: clue there. But like, I know what I'm doing is worthwhile,
1:51:36
Speaker 2: and so I know, if I'm right about this, what
1:51:40
Speaker 2: I'm experiencing is going to be so valuable for so
1:51:42
Speaker 2: many people. That's why I don't hesitate and telling the
1:51:44
Speaker 2: story a whole lot. It's certainly not bragging. You don't
1:51:46
Speaker 2: brag about getting evicted or anything, or being broke, but
1:51:48
Speaker 2: you bragged that you know, there are there are kids
1:51:52
Speaker 2: who grow up dirt poor and they got like that
1:51:54
Speaker 2: caged animal syndrome their whole life. There are kids who
1:51:57
Speaker 2: grew up rich and it doesn't matter how many mistakes
1:51:59
Speaker 2: they make, cause the law always be set for life.
1:52:01
Speaker 2: There is like an ocean of tweeners out there. I
1:52:04
Speaker 2: was one of them. I was lower middle class, but
1:52:06
Speaker 2: like I was not worrying about where my next meal
1:52:08
Speaker 2: was going to come from as a kid. But I
1:52:10
Speaker 2: also wasn't set for life as a kid. And so
1:52:13
Speaker 2: you get out of high school and you don't know
1:52:14
Speaker 2: what you want to do, and then you're twenty, then
1:52:16
Speaker 2: you're twenty two, then you're twenty four. You still really
1:52:18
Speaker 2: haven't made anything of yourself. You know you've got potential,
1:52:21
Speaker 2: you know you got talent, we all do, but you're
1:52:23
Speaker 2: just like floating. You're pissing away time, You're pissing away
1:52:26
Speaker 2: years of your life. And so like, I didn't really
1:52:28
Speaker 2: even start having that click till I'm like thirty years old,
1:52:31
Speaker 2: and I realized, if I make something of myself, imagine
1:52:35
Speaker 2: how this. Imagine how this plays to an audience of
1:52:38
Speaker 2: twenty two year olds, Because I know forever there will
1:52:42
Speaker 2: be tweeners in life who were sitting out there and
1:52:44
Speaker 2: they just want something to light a fire under them. Well,
1:52:47
Speaker 2: what better than someone who can say, yeah, I was
1:52:49
Speaker 2: right there where you were. Like, if you're broke, you
1:52:52
Speaker 2: got no other option than to work or you're going
1:52:54
Speaker 2: to die, Like you're not going anywhere. If you're rich, eh, whatever.
1:52:59
Speaker 2: But if you're a twin and that's like a huge
1:53:01
Speaker 2: population of the United States of America's youth at any
1:53:04
Speaker 2: given point, no one's really feeling sorry for you. But
1:53:07
Speaker 2: no one's handing you a whole lot either. That I
1:53:11
Speaker 2: told myself even at the time, that's who I want
1:53:13
Speaker 2: to speak to one day, if I ever make it.
1:53:15
Speaker 2: That's who I want to speak to I love that.
1:53:17
Speaker 3: What was going through your mind when CBS was starting
1:53:19
Speaker 3: to get on your tail for you know, launching. You
1:53:23
Speaker 3: had done your show on YouTube for two years, then
1:53:25
Speaker 3: you get picked up by CBS. What was the feeling
1:53:27
Speaker 3: like in your body, in your mind when those phone
1:53:30
Speaker 3: calls are starting to happen.
1:53:31
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of So it's validation. I mean,
1:53:33
Speaker 2: it's validation number one, that someone noticed. It's validation that
1:53:39
Speaker 2: they were going to pay me seventy thousand dollars a year,
1:53:41
Speaker 2: because that's triple maybe even quadruple when I was making
1:53:44
Speaker 2: at that point. I was making nothing at that point.
1:53:46
Speaker 2: Actually YouTube is started to do okay, but still, like
1:53:49
Speaker 2: there's a thing like when you play your first down
1:53:51
Speaker 2: in the NFL, you made it as a pro football player.
1:53:55
Speaker 2: They'll never be able to take it away from you.
1:53:56
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you get cut the next day
1:53:58
Speaker 2: you played in the NFL. The first day someone pays
1:54:01
Speaker 2: you a company pays you to talk about sports on
1:54:04
Speaker 2: air is a very surreal moment. Even if there's paying
1:54:07
Speaker 2: you five bucks, it's a surreal moment because everybody in
1:54:12
Speaker 2: your life wants to do it, like everyone dreams of
1:54:15
Speaker 2: holding one of those like big network microphones and like
1:54:18
Speaker 2: you're actually getting paid, you're on national TV. So there
1:54:21
Speaker 2: was that piece, But then also there's all right, now
1:54:24
Speaker 2: it's time to go to work and it's time to
1:54:27
Speaker 2: shake the tree, like we're gonna find out really how
1:54:30
Speaker 2: how well the root system is taken because you can't
1:54:33
Speaker 2: screw up. You're gonna screw up. But you're thinking this
1:54:35
Speaker 2: is a tightrope wall. You've been walking a tight rope
1:54:37
Speaker 2: five feet off the ground. You're gonna be five hundred
1:54:39
Speaker 2: feet off the ground now and a lot more people
1:54:41
Speaker 2: are gonna see you, and you're gonna be exposed in
1:54:44
Speaker 2: every way imaginable. There's gonna be a lot of unfamiliar
1:54:47
Speaker 2: technical jargon. There's gonna be you know, a lot thinner air.
1:54:51
Speaker 2: You're gonna rub elbows with a lot of people you
1:54:53
Speaker 2: grew up watching as a kid, and you better not
1:54:56
Speaker 2: have stars in your eyes, like you better work with
1:54:58
Speaker 2: them and talk to them on their level, or if
1:55:00
Speaker 2: you're really what you think you are, you better be
1:55:02
Speaker 2: able to walk in that setting and own the room,
1:55:04
Speaker 2: Like how do you walk in there? I grew up
1:55:06
Speaker 2: watching these guys and listening to these guys, But do
1:55:09
Speaker 2: you have the presence of mind to set that aside
1:55:11
Speaker 2: at the door and walk in there and own your
1:55:13
Speaker 2: craft so thoroughly that when you look at them like
1:55:15
Speaker 2: you're getting respect back from them, because like as a man,
1:55:18
Speaker 2: you know when you do and don't have someone's respect.
1:55:21
Speaker 2: And so that's kind of some of the stuff I
1:55:22
Speaker 2: was thinking about, and then also thinking, I think I'm
1:55:25
Speaker 2: prepared for this, but I know there's so much I'm
1:55:26
Speaker 2: unprepared for. Let's go do it anyway. Then you start
1:55:29
Speaker 2: doing it. Then COVID happens two months later. Yeah, that
1:55:35
Speaker 2: whole year, that whole year you're talking about it on
1:55:38
Speaker 2: your side, Imagine on my side. I moved to Nashville.
1:55:42
Speaker 2: You remember the tornado came through. Oh yeah, Hitar building.
1:55:46
Speaker 2: That's the first two months I'm here. COVID happens shortly thereafter,
1:55:50
Speaker 2: like later that month is really when you start shutting down.
1:55:53
Speaker 2: And I always say this, and it sounds so bad,
1:55:55
Speaker 2: so I have to like really carefully preface it. COVID
1:55:59
Speaker 2: was terrible for a lot of people, and a lot
1:56:01
Speaker 2: of people lost family members, Like it was a real
1:56:03
Speaker 2: serious deal. Professionally speaking, it was the biggest blessing I
1:56:07
Speaker 2: could ever have that it happened when it happened because
1:56:09
Speaker 2: I came here and then things shut down. And Shannon Terry,
1:56:13
Speaker 2: who was running twenty four to seven Sports, but that
1:56:15
Speaker 2: had been acquired by CBS, so like, I'm working for him,
1:56:18
Speaker 2: I'm working out of his building. He said, I'm going
1:56:20
Speaker 2: to get you emergency access to this building. No one's
1:56:22
Speaker 2: going to be here for I don't know how long.
1:56:24
Speaker 2: No one's going to bother you. Just do what you
1:56:26
Speaker 2: think you need to do. And so we got like
1:56:29
Speaker 2: six months of doing the show our way on CBS's
1:56:32
Speaker 2: platforms with no corporate interference, and by the time people
1:56:36
Speaker 2: slowly started to come back, and by the time like
1:56:38
Speaker 2: the executive types started seeing it, it was already making money.
1:56:41
Speaker 2: It had already scaled, so they never even had time
1:56:44
Speaker 2: to I'm not saying they would have, but they never
1:56:46
Speaker 2: had time or a reason to step in and try
1:56:49
Speaker 2: to change this or turn that knob or you know,
1:56:51
Speaker 2: course correct. At twenty degrees, it was already proven. By
1:56:55
Speaker 2: the time COVID had ended, it was already proven. So
1:56:57
Speaker 2: we were good to go at that point.
1:56:58
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's got to be a good feeling to
1:57:01
Speaker 1: be like, all right, I get to kind of just
1:57:02
Speaker 1: run with this thing. No one's expecting anything to work
1:57:04
Speaker 1: out anyway, because we're in the middle of like COVID,
1:57:07
Speaker 1: and then by the time it gets there, it's like, yeah,
1:57:10
Speaker 1: there's nothing to critique because if you're in there with
1:57:12
Speaker 1: everybody else, there's a chance that executives are going to
1:57:15
Speaker 1: bring you into a room but hey, maybe change this,
1:57:16
Speaker 1: maybe do that. Now you're second guessing yourself, but it's
1:57:18
Speaker 1: your creative process, so you don't want that the whole
1:57:20
Speaker 1: get messed up. So there's all these things that could
1:57:23
Speaker 1: different variables to mess you up in that process. Yeah,
1:57:26
Speaker 1: that's a massive win.
1:57:26
Speaker 2: We'll think about this. So you're in the exact same
1:57:28
Speaker 2: seat that I'm about to talk about what you're doing
1:57:31
Speaker 2: right now. You're creating jobs for untold hundreds to thousands
1:57:35
Speaker 2: of people down the road because companies watch what you're
1:57:38
Speaker 2: doing and you've massively scaled a product. You're doing it
1:57:41
Speaker 2: totally your way, like it's authentically yours. Everything's yours. So
1:57:44
Speaker 2: you've got pop, you got proof of performance. There's no
1:57:46
Speaker 2: questioning whether this works. There will be companies, there will
1:57:50
Speaker 2: be private equity firms, there'll be huge money that gets
1:57:53
Speaker 2: redirected towards trying to duplicate what you're doing and giving
1:57:57
Speaker 2: people jobs and putting them behind microphones. Otherwise wouldn't have
1:58:00
Speaker 2: been behind. Now at that point, they either sink or
1:58:02
Speaker 2: swim on their own, but you created an opportunity for someone.
1:58:05
Speaker 2: I was thinking that, Like I still think that today,
1:58:07
Speaker 2: but I was thinking that, Okay, CBS has kind of
1:58:11
Speaker 2: made me the test pilot program. Like Big Networks five
1:58:14
Speaker 2: years ago. They're not really in the business of going
1:58:17
Speaker 2: and finding some guy on YouTube and putting him in
1:58:20
Speaker 2: their chair. They're in the business of we're going to
1:58:23
Speaker 2: find someone who's already proven, or we're gonna take former
1:58:25
Speaker 2: players coaches, Like it's a really tried and true formula.
1:58:27
Speaker 2: We've done this for one hundred years, so I get
1:58:29
Speaker 2: my shot. I'm thinking, yeah, this is big for me,
1:58:32
Speaker 2: but they're like one hundred, two hundred, five hundred other
1:58:34
Speaker 2: guys out there who may or may not ever get
1:58:37
Speaker 2: a life changing opportunity based on whether I make this
1:58:40
Speaker 2: work or not. And that was a really huge deal.
1:58:42
Speaker 2: Like that's part of legacy, that's part of something that
1:58:45
Speaker 2: extends well beyond yourself, and like I think about that
1:58:48
Speaker 2: stuff every day. COVID.
1:58:49
Speaker 1: There's an interesting time because they feel like the media
1:58:51
Speaker 1: changed in so many ways. You're bringing up the suits earlier.
1:58:54
Speaker 1: And like I was with CAA as my agents for football,
1:58:58
Speaker 1: and I went to LA I saw like their death
1:59:00
Speaker 1: starts what they call it. And in the music department,
1:59:03
Speaker 1: nobody wears suits because at one point in like the sixties,
1:59:06
Speaker 1: seventies or eighties, whenever it was, a band came in
1:59:09
Speaker 1: that everyone wanted to rep. They came into CIA and
1:59:12
Speaker 1: they and they were like, you guys are all suits.
1:59:14
Speaker 1: We can't trust you guys, but ball you guys don't
1:59:16
Speaker 1: know the brand, you don't know the influence. You're gonna
1:59:18
Speaker 1: try to change us. The next day they had a meeting,
1:59:22
Speaker 1: a company wide meeting, saying, no one wears suits in
1:59:24
Speaker 1: the music department anymore, because we need these people to
1:59:26
Speaker 1: know that we're here for them. And then you go
1:59:29
Speaker 1: fast forward to twenty twenty. You see Pat McAfee start
1:59:31
Speaker 1: taking off. You see these other podcasts start taking off.
1:59:33
Speaker 1: You're taking off. It feels to me like the suits
1:59:37
Speaker 1: of the mainstreams of mainstream sports media is slowly going away,
1:59:42
Speaker 1: and the Pat McAfee tank top kind of process is
1:59:45
Speaker 1: now taking over a little bit. So do you see
1:59:48
Speaker 1: that happening with ESPN, CBS and all these other major
1:59:52
Speaker 1: corporations in the future.
1:59:53
Speaker 2: McAfee's like Roger Banister. Basically Roger Banister, up until the
1:59:57
Speaker 2: point he ran the sub four minute mile lived in
1:59:59
Speaker 2: a wor world where people thought, oh, it's humanly impossible.
2:00:02
Speaker 2: So up until McAfee gets put on ESPN, even when
2:00:06
Speaker 2: he was independent, people would have told you, oh, you
2:00:08
Speaker 2: can't do that stuff on ESPN, though well you always could.
2:00:11
Speaker 2: It's just someone had to do it. Because once Roger
2:00:14
Speaker 2: bandaged to ran a sub four minute mile, then a
2:00:16
Speaker 2: bunch of other people ran u up for them. It
2:00:18
Speaker 2: was like fifty's like seventy. The next year broke four minutes.
2:00:21
Speaker 2: The question becomes did they all just become capable of
2:00:24
Speaker 2: doing it cause Roger did it, or were a bunch
2:00:26
Speaker 2: of people capable of it and just had to see
2:00:28
Speaker 2: it happen. So similarly, like, you've got to be an
2:00:31
Speaker 2: idiot to not have known that. All the while sports
2:00:34
Speaker 2: fans who are consuming content are sitting at home looking
2:00:37
Speaker 2: a whole lot more like that than they are wearing
2:00:39
Speaker 2: a suit.
2:00:40
Speaker 1: They probably don't look that Good's age Nick Simon.
2:00:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like the point is, again, who are you
2:00:48
Speaker 2: stacking your show for for a long time? Suits, if
2:00:50
Speaker 2: you want to call him that, just people at the
2:00:52
Speaker 2: executive level, people with seven figure earnings and golden parachutes.
2:00:55
Speaker 2: If they fail, they have formatted their content for themselves
2:00:59
Speaker 2: in the lieu of knowing it doesn't matter what we present,
2:01:03
Speaker 2: they'll consume it because there are no other options. Well,
2:01:06
Speaker 2: bad news for them when digital media came of age
2:01:09
Speaker 2: is well, now there are options fully on demand world.
2:01:12
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of what you do. It's the beauty
2:01:14
Speaker 2: of what I do. The audience is in full control.
2:01:17
Speaker 2: Like you have never accidentally gotten a viewer. Every viewer
2:01:20
Speaker 2: has intentionally sought out your video, sought out your social feeds,
2:01:24
Speaker 2: sought out your podcast. Same with me. If you're on
2:01:26
Speaker 2: network TV, you may see me because you're in an airport.
2:01:30
Speaker 2: You may just see me because you're in a barbershop.
2:01:32
Speaker 2: I happened to be on and so for a long
2:01:33
Speaker 2: time they didn't really have true feedback. What they were
2:01:36
Speaker 2: doing was working because there was no competition in the marketplace.
2:01:39
Speaker 2: Now there's competition in the marketplace, and magically you're willing
2:01:42
Speaker 2: to bend on things like on air wardrobe and you know,
2:01:45
Speaker 2: people who don't watch sports may say, do you really
2:01:48
Speaker 2: think that's why Pat mcafew works because of what he wears. No,
2:01:51
Speaker 2: what he wears is authentic to himself, and that's why
2:01:54
Speaker 2: it works, the same as you, the same as me.
2:01:57
Speaker 2: It's just that fifteen years ago you weren't allowed to
2:01:59
Speaker 2: present that way because someone who really didn't know the
2:02:01
Speaker 2: audience but owned the keys to the audience controlled that.
2:02:05
Speaker 2: And now they don't, and you find out it really
2:02:07
Speaker 2: never mattered what you were on air to begin with.
2:02:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, great reminder for everybody tuning in right now to
2:02:12
Speaker 3: subscribe to Bust with the Boys as you are watching
2:02:14
Speaker 3: and four minute mile, just take your thumb, hit that subscribe,
2:02:19
Speaker 3: but just hit the button. I love that you brought
2:02:22
Speaker 3: up the Roger Bannister analogy. I feel like I heard
2:02:24
Speaker 3: that from Tony Robbins like back in college.
2:02:28
Speaker 1: Take a bis. I enjoying it so much.
2:02:30
Speaker 3: I will say, Uh, he had to be last night
2:02:32
Speaker 3: on his show and he had about an hour left,
2:02:34
Speaker 3: but he was gonna fight through.
2:02:35
Speaker 1: For the betterment of the audience.
2:02:37
Speaker 2: I pushed and well, I was just gonna let you
2:02:41
Speaker 2: know I consumed your yeah you're down? That was before
2:02:44
Speaker 2: or after the Nebraska prediction. I feel that was after h.
2:02:48
Speaker 3: No, that was before before I was, you know, not
2:02:50
Speaker 3: the flex, but I was in my weight room.
2:02:52
Speaker 1: Is now the time to get into football? Or should
2:02:55
Speaker 1: we kind of save that for the locker room? Because
2:02:57
Speaker 1: pi's gonna be on every week during football, so there'll be.
2:03:00
Speaker 3: Things that we can some headlines we can talk about.
2:03:02
Speaker 3: But for everybody watching our new show, The Locker Room
2:03:04
Speaker 3: with College Football with this trio right here, this three
2:03:07
Speaker 3: headed monster will kick off Wednesday evening where we'll be
2:03:10
Speaker 3: going over all of our futures for the college.
2:03:16
Speaker 1: Just got here. Hey, people didn't see this coming. Haters
2:03:19
Speaker 1: are swinging at the air right now.
2:03:22
Speaker 2: They did it again. Yeah, they're scrambling, scrambling right now?
2:03:26
Speaker 1: Is there?
2:03:27
Speaker 3: Like, dude, I've I've enjoyed all of this conversation and
2:03:30
Speaker 3: I fucking love your thought process and I was I
2:03:34
Speaker 3: wanted to interrupt you, but I feel like everything you
2:03:36
Speaker 3: explained about what you were feeling to when you were
2:03:40
Speaker 3: getting up in the big leagues, the CBS, the am
2:03:43
Speaker 3: I who I say, I am? All of those feelings,
2:03:46
Speaker 3: all of those processes, right there is. What we are
2:03:50
Speaker 3: explaining is I feel like a similar experience that you're
2:03:53
Speaker 3: explaining walking out into a college stadium or an NFL
2:03:57
Speaker 3: stadium without the just the theatrics and the adrenaline aside
2:04:00
Speaker 3: from the adrenaline dump and everything else, that thought process
2:04:03
Speaker 3: of caring so fucking much about what you do and
2:04:06
Speaker 3: how hard you work at it, and having so much
2:04:08
Speaker 3: perspective on how you got where you are, and hey,
2:04:11
Speaker 3: am I who I think I am? I'm gonna there's
2:04:13
Speaker 3: some I don't knows and some question marks, but I'm
2:04:15
Speaker 3: willing to jump and go after it with competition, with
2:04:17
Speaker 3: everything else around that, right, there is a mentality that
2:04:20
Speaker 3: gives I feel like the anxieties of everything you do,
2:04:22
Speaker 3: whether you walk out into a stadium or you're just
2:04:25
Speaker 3: elevating at your next job or going into your big
2:04:28
Speaker 3: league so without the stage and everything else, I feel
2:04:30
Speaker 3: like that is a very similar feeling that every competitor
2:04:33
Speaker 3: has when like walking out into the arena.
2:04:35
Speaker 2: That's the competition, Like, that's it's not do I get
2:04:39
Speaker 2: more views than the other dude? That's how I think
2:04:41
Speaker 2: you define competition.
2:04:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like that. Yeah, everything you were kind
2:04:45
Speaker 3: of walking through when you got that call in my
2:04:46
Speaker 3: this I'm gonna be in am I going to own
2:04:48
Speaker 3: the room?
2:04:48
Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel this way?
2:04:49
Speaker 3: Can I put my ego out the door because I'm
2:04:51
Speaker 3: gonna be lined up across from so and so, or
2:04:52
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be talking on the desk and so and so.
2:04:55
Speaker 3: I feel like all of it is the same mentality
2:04:57
Speaker 3: because you care so much about your success or your
2:05:01
Speaker 3: version of success.
2:05:02
Speaker 1: In your world.
2:05:03
Speaker 3: So I feel like that is the that is the
2:05:06
Speaker 3: bridging of the gap between the normal person and them
2:05:09
Speaker 3: seeing somebody at some high level doing it, It's like, no,
2:05:12
Speaker 3: you're yours can be there too. It's just how much
2:05:14
Speaker 3: you're pouring into that process. And when that brea big
2:05:16
Speaker 3: break does come. Just know that is the feeling that
2:05:18
Speaker 3: everybody feels of jumping into something they're very uncomfortable about.
2:05:21
Speaker 2: That's but when the big break happens. The awesome thing
2:05:24
Speaker 2: is when you get wired that way. The big break
2:05:26
Speaker 2: is when you're a kid, you envision it whatever is
2:05:29
Speaker 2: going to come of your life. When the big things happen,
2:05:31
Speaker 2: there's confetti, there's parties, there's slaps on the back, and
2:05:35
Speaker 2: then when you actually wire yourself, the way you have
2:05:38
Speaker 2: to be wired to even get the break. You're wired
2:05:41
Speaker 2: in such a way where you celebrate for ten minutes, yes,
2:05:44
Speaker 2: and you just are next.
2:05:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not like unless you're selling a company
2:05:48
Speaker 1: and retireing, that's it.
2:05:50
Speaker 2: That's the difference.
2:05:51
Speaker 1: Once you get the big break, whether it's financially or
2:05:54
Speaker 1: you've you've actually some one snap in the NFL stap NFL,
2:05:57
Speaker 1: it's like you can celebrate that as a perfect level.
2:05:59
Speaker 1: You can celebarate for five seconds because then there's the
2:06:00
Speaker 1: second coming right there. But like, you get the job
2:06:04
Speaker 1: you wanted, you get the you, you get the someone's like,
2:06:06
Speaker 1: hey you can do this. Now you get more money
2:06:08
Speaker 1: whatever it is. That's exciting. But then now the work
2:06:11
Speaker 1: actually has to come in to prove whoever gave you
2:06:13
Speaker 1: the opportunity right, And that's where it's like you really
2:06:16
Speaker 1: have no time to go and sit there and be like,
2:06:18
Speaker 1: look how great I am. It's like you truly have
2:06:19
Speaker 1: to be on to the next thing. Then it's the
2:06:21
Speaker 1: whole When do you reflect when you look in the
2:06:23
Speaker 1: rearview mirror and be like, okay, I was able to
2:06:26
Speaker 1: achieve all this. But then if you do that for
2:06:28
Speaker 1: too long, now you're losing what's in front of you.
2:06:30
Speaker 1: It's a very interesting game of balance that needs to
2:06:33
Speaker 1: take place because there always has to be gratitude. But
2:06:36
Speaker 1: if you're wired the way we are, it's like, hey,
2:06:38
Speaker 1: what is the next step towards the end goal which
2:06:42
Speaker 1: truly we don't know, which is actually dying, like you
2:06:45
Speaker 1: just eventually die, and it's like, how do you do that?
2:06:48
Speaker 1: You get up there and he pulls up the scroll
2:06:50
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, not that, not that could have
2:06:53
Speaker 1: done better here though, yea. You know.
2:06:54
Speaker 3: That's why I also appreciated going over the parts where
2:06:57
Speaker 3: you've said no to a lot of people are said
2:06:59
Speaker 3: no to some things because I think another thing that
2:07:02
Speaker 3: successful people or achievers have a hard time doing of
2:07:05
Speaker 3: getting the goalpost to stop moving when you know what
2:07:08
Speaker 3: I am doing is enough and I know, hey, not
2:07:11
Speaker 3: that you're relaxed. I'm just going to be doing this. Foreverybody,
2:07:13
Speaker 3: this doesn't necessarily tie to what I want to do
2:07:16
Speaker 3: with my audience or what I want to do in
2:07:18
Speaker 3: the future. And you're you're able to say no to
2:07:21
Speaker 3: those people, which probably makes you It does make you
2:07:23
Speaker 3: more valuable because I'm sure those numbers go up and
2:07:25
Speaker 3: they're try to dangle a beer carrot.
2:07:26
Speaker 1: One day, they'll probably be a character. Why you can't
2:07:28
Speaker 1: say no to carrot? Maybe it's the commissioner of college football.
2:07:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or maybe you just grow the garden. Maybe you
2:07:34
Speaker 2: just grow the garden. Hey, yeah, maybe we feed everybody.
2:07:38
Speaker 2: I don't like that I saw.
2:07:40
Speaker 3: Do you just grow the garden?
2:07:41
Speaker 2: Hey? Uh?
2:07:42
Speaker 3: I saw one. I want to say it was like
2:07:43
Speaker 3: a stoic meditation. It was like he who chases two
2:07:46
Speaker 3: rabbits stays hungry. Why not grow the carrots?
2:07:50
Speaker 2: Sounds easy?
2:07:52
Speaker 3: Sounds yeah, it sounds easy in theory. Yeah, you know what,
2:07:54
Speaker 3: let's just stop chasing around. Let's just grow the garden.
2:07:57
Speaker 2: You know they have like when you turn down opportunities, though,
2:08:00
Speaker 2: there is almost like a who do you think you are?
2:08:03
Speaker 2: Like the audacity?
2:08:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, how could you say no to us?
2:08:06
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, I mean, do you understand the
2:08:08
Speaker 2: concept of alignment?
2:08:09
Speaker 1: Yeah?
2:08:10
Speaker 2: The concept just like how that works? I mean, would
2:08:12
Speaker 2: you would you put this show on your network?
2:08:14
Speaker 1: No?
2:08:14
Speaker 2: Why not? Well because it doesn't fit our network. You
2:08:18
Speaker 2: just describe who I'm telling you know, right, no hard feelings,
2:08:21
Speaker 2: like that's just why I'm telling you no.
2:08:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the person who wants to put the square
2:08:23
Speaker 1: peg in the round hole. Dude, it's it's very difficult
2:08:26
Speaker 1: when you don't have a whole lot and you're just
2:08:28
Speaker 1: constantly wanting success and you think more as better as
2:08:31
Speaker 1: opposed to quality over quantity. Yeah, so it's just it's
2:08:33
Speaker 1: a game, man, It's a game of knowing who you are.
2:08:37
Speaker 1: And if somebody like you doesn't know who they are
2:08:38
Speaker 1: as much as they do, it's like you probably fall
2:08:40
Speaker 1: into that trap more times than once.
2:08:42
Speaker 2: If you're listening right now, okay, if you're watching this
2:08:44
Speaker 2: right now, so that's that's subscribe, absolutely, subscribe.
2:08:47
Speaker 3: Subscribe.
2:08:47
Speaker 2: Okay, what are you doing here? If you haven't? Yeah,
2:08:50
Speaker 2: this is the simplest question, Ask yourself, who am I?
2:08:54
Speaker 2: This is like, this is a mind bender for a
2:08:56
Speaker 2: lot of people because they will say they'll give you
2:08:58
Speaker 2: their name, or I'll give you their skin color, or
2:09:01
Speaker 2: their height and weight, or their hometown. That's not who
2:09:04
Speaker 2: you are. That's the stuff on your driver's license. Who
2:09:06
Speaker 2: are you? Like, dig the dagger into your chest, cut
2:09:09
Speaker 2: yourself open. Who are you? What are your talents? What
2:09:12
Speaker 2: are your passions? What are your likes and dislikes? What
2:09:14
Speaker 2: do you cut out to do, Like what is your purpose.
2:09:18
Speaker 1: All that stuff?
2:09:19
Speaker 2: If you asked me that at twenty three, I would
2:09:21
Speaker 2: have just stammered. I know that someone asked me this.
2:09:24
Speaker 2: I didn't have the answer. It's the same dude who
2:09:26
Speaker 2: asked me, why would anyone care what you have to say?
2:09:27
Speaker 2: He asked me, who are you? I didn't know how
2:09:29
Speaker 2: to answer that. Why would anyone care what you have
2:09:31
Speaker 2: to say? I didn't know how to answer that, which
2:09:33
Speaker 2: just meant I wasn't ready yet, which just meant you
2:09:35
Speaker 2: got years that you still have to put in. Didn't
2:09:37
Speaker 2: want to hear that at the time. I didn't accept
2:09:38
Speaker 2: it at the time, but it was a reality at
2:09:40
Speaker 2: the time. So it doesn't matter if you want to
2:09:41
Speaker 2: get into media or you want to build a trucking company,
2:09:45
Speaker 2: like who are you? How are you about to go anywhere?
2:09:48
Speaker 2: How are you about to build anything? Before you've even
2:09:50
Speaker 2: laid the foundation? That stuff? It mid mess me up.
2:09:53
Speaker 2: And when the guy asked me that those two questions,
2:09:55
Speaker 2: it messed me up so much. And now, like years later,
2:09:57
Speaker 2: I asked that to everybody when I speak at colleges,
2:10:00
Speaker 2: I asked that to everybody.
2:10:01
Speaker 3: Quick break from the episode, because we are brought to
2:10:03
Speaker 3: you by Neutral Vodka Seltzer. Have you tried Neutral? If not,
2:10:06
Speaker 3: you are missing out. Neutral is so much better than
2:10:09
Speaker 3: any old seltzer that I've tried. It's made with real
2:10:11
Speaker 3: vodkan and real juice. That's what makes it delicious. And
2:10:14
Speaker 3: Neutral comes in a variety of flavors like pineapple, watermelon,
2:10:18
Speaker 3: or their new flavors lime and strawberry. And Neutral is
2:10:21
Speaker 3: the perfect drink to bring when hanging with friends because
2:10:23
Speaker 3: it is such a crowd pleaser where they're watching the
2:10:26
Speaker 3: game at a bar in the backyard with friends at
2:10:28
Speaker 3: a tailgate. Doesn't matter the occasion, bring Neutral, Neutral, Keep
2:10:33
Speaker 3: it tasty.
2:10:33
Speaker 1: Back to the episode on the topic of who people are?
2:10:38
Speaker 1: Who are the Nebraska Cornas is going to be this year, So.
2:10:44
Speaker 2: I feel like we're close enough to the season where
2:10:46
Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to start getting on
2:10:48
Speaker 2: the whole. Ooh, I just did my research. It looks
2:10:51
Speaker 2: like Matt Rulan year three is a big deal. Well,
2:10:54
Speaker 2: we've been saying that for a long time.
2:10:55
Speaker 1: Will I've saying that since the minute he was hired.
2:10:57
Speaker 1: It's like year three is the year.
2:10:58
Speaker 2: I don't think that those people know that even Holgerson
2:11:02
Speaker 2: is the offensive coordinator. I don't think most people know that.
2:11:05
Speaker 2: I don't think most Just so, I've got Dylan here,
2:11:11
Speaker 2: I've got Dana Holgerson here, and I just feel like
2:11:13
Speaker 2: that's about to happen this year. And even though they
2:11:16
Speaker 2: lost Tony to Florida State, which is a move I
2:11:18
Speaker 2: still question. By the way, even though they lost him
2:11:19
Speaker 2: to Florida State, I feel like the defensive personnel will
2:11:22
Speaker 2: be good enough that the scaling of offensive production, combined
2:11:26
Speaker 2: with what I think is the most workable Big ten
2:11:28
Speaker 2: schedule in the entire conference, there's such a path to
2:11:32
Speaker 2: ten and two, and I think ten and two gets
2:11:34
Speaker 2: him in. The question is the question is, oh God,
2:11:38
Speaker 2: The question is who's ready not to follow that prediction?
2:11:44
Speaker 2: But like, is anyone ready to top that prediction? That's
2:11:48
Speaker 2: what I came here to find out this morning, lash
2:11:50
Speaker 2: early afternoon.
2:11:51
Speaker 3: Hey, timeout, Now just for a little context on Josh
2:11:54
Speaker 3: Pate starting the bar at ten and two, you were
2:11:57
Speaker 3: at eight wins its nine?
2:12:00
Speaker 1: It was, yes, it was. Here's what I have to receive.
2:12:04
Speaker 1: It happened a little over a month ago, and nothing
2:12:06
Speaker 1: in nine and three.
2:12:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, July's vacation month, No one cares what happens in
2:12:10
Speaker 2: July August is rubber to the road.
2:12:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, fart and the wind.
2:12:14
Speaker 2: Yeah. Influences from around the neighborhood have pushed me to
2:12:18
Speaker 2: ten wins.
2:12:18
Speaker 1: It was nine and three losses coming from Ohio, State,
2:12:22
Speaker 1: USC and Michigan.
2:12:26
Speaker 2: William Nebraska. I am ready to predict. I am ready
2:12:32
Speaker 2: to back with my own money that Nebraska will be
2:12:35
Speaker 2: better than six and six.
2:12:37
Speaker 3: This year.
2:12:40
Speaker 2: Could be seven wins, could be twelve wins. As it
2:12:42
Speaker 2: turns out, its ten wins. Look, if you don't believe
2:12:45
Speaker 2: in Nebraska better, hey, because he was trying to he was.
2:12:48
Speaker 2: He shot me that clip being like they never noticed
2:12:50
Speaker 2: when you toss love out shame. I said, better than
2:12:53
Speaker 2: six and six?
2:12:53
Speaker 3: Is love to you?
2:12:54
Speaker 1: Josh?
2:12:55
Speaker 3: He said that could mean twelve and oh. I said
2:12:56
Speaker 3: it could also mean seven and five, which.
2:12:58
Speaker 1: Is a floor for Nebraska here.
2:13:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think so.
2:13:01
Speaker 1: I think that is a if you're a logical fan,
2:13:04
Speaker 1: you say that if you end the season at seven
2:13:06
Speaker 1: and five, you think we've gotten better. We've gotten better?
2:13:08
Speaker 1: How is that seven and five? Look, I think that
2:13:10
Speaker 1: determines a lot of things. You can't be like blow
2:13:12
Speaker 1: getting blown out five times but having slow with small wins.
2:13:16
Speaker 1: But if you go seven and five after not making
2:13:18
Speaker 1: a bowl games is twenty fifteen until twenty twenty four,
2:13:21
Speaker 1: you need to be proud of what your program is
2:13:24
Speaker 1: putting on putting out there.
2:13:25
Speaker 2: Do we agree with that?
2:13:26
Speaker 3: No? No, because no nobody really does. But hang on,
2:13:29
Speaker 3: before we go any farther, do you have Nebraska peg
2:13:31
Speaker 3: at seven and five this year?
2:13:33
Speaker 1: I that's a tough question. Let me have this conversation
2:13:36
Speaker 1: and then I'll give you my answer.
2:13:37
Speaker 3: Because he's also trying to speak for logical Nebraska fans,
2:13:40
Speaker 3: which I'm trying to absolutely nothing.
2:13:42
Speaker 1: I am trying to speak for logical fandom, right, people
2:13:46
Speaker 1: casuals who don't really follow in nebrasketball. So the under
2:13:49
Speaker 1: here just on the outside looking at I think the
2:13:51
Speaker 1: more you look in the Nebraska football the more you
2:13:53
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, they should be probably seven to five.
2:13:56
Speaker 1: And to follow up on your ten and two now
2:13:59
Speaker 1: where you were, I replied to you and said, eight
2:14:02
Speaker 1: plus are my foxhil guys. Those are the guys buying stock.
2:14:05
Speaker 1: Those are the guys that understand what's going on in
2:14:07
Speaker 1: the kitchen of Nebraska football. Are they really see ten
2:14:10
Speaker 1: plus win level? Optimism.
2:14:12
Speaker 3: Battling for a college football playoff spot, no very few
2:14:15
Speaker 3: are very few have that kind of courage. But the
2:14:17
Speaker 3: ones seeing the field with eight plus are the ones
2:14:19
Speaker 3: I'm ready to go to war with.
2:14:21
Speaker 1: You said I can do eight. By August, I could
2:14:23
Speaker 1: see myself flirting with the nines.
2:14:25
Speaker 2: Now we're at ten and you're saying, is anybody crazy
2:14:27
Speaker 2: enough to top ten? I'm not saying is anyone crazy enough?
2:14:30
Speaker 2: I'm asking does anyone believe in Nebraska more than me?
2:14:37
Speaker 3: Is there sharing the bust with them? You're sharing a
2:14:39
Speaker 3: college football show with them?
2:14:40
Speaker 2: Eleven?
2:14:42
Speaker 3: I can see us going eleven in one. Yes, okay,
2:14:46
Speaker 3: you want to go you want me to go over.
2:14:47
Speaker 1: To the schedule.
2:14:48
Speaker 2: I'd love this because it's all on record, So yes,
2:14:50
Speaker 2: I would love this. This is my Christmas present to
2:14:53
Speaker 2: myself in December. So I have us at ten and two,
2:15:00
Speaker 2: but I believe easily that we can go eleven and one. Okay,
2:15:05
Speaker 2: at least before Will starts.
2:15:08
Speaker 1: I have to deal with this, yeah, four times a year,
2:15:12
Speaker 1: starting middle of January, it's probably the first time this happens.
2:15:16
Speaker 1: Then it'll be like April, then June, July, and then
2:15:20
Speaker 1: right before the season go ahead.
2:15:22
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I shoved Nebraska football down your
2:15:24
Speaker 3: throat like I could calm cool, calm collected, because I
2:15:31
Speaker 3: know what's bruin. But I digress. Nebraska Cincinnati, that's one
2:15:36
Speaker 3: where we set the tone for the season. That's one
2:15:38
Speaker 3: to know Akron two and oh HCU school what he
2:15:45
Speaker 3: was at Houston Christian University.
2:15:46
Speaker 2: Never heard of her? All right, so that's three and oh,
2:15:48
Speaker 2: that's three.
2:15:49
Speaker 3: Michigan. I got us taken down Michigan. To me, that's
2:15:51
Speaker 3: the that's the game where it's like, who the fuck
2:15:54
Speaker 3: are we gonna be this year? No, I agree with you,
2:15:56
Speaker 3: and I think in Lincoln, Nebraska, Nebraska beats Michigan State.
2:16:00
Speaker 3: I think we win. And here's where I have our
2:16:03
Speaker 3: first loss, either at Maryland or at Minnesota, not because
2:16:07
Speaker 3: they are better than us. We are the more superior team.
2:16:11
Speaker 3: I think when you start to get can you scroll
2:16:12
Speaker 3: out what is that six? And oh before Maryland? Uncharted
2:16:16
Speaker 3: territories where you don't know how we're gonna handle this
2:16:18
Speaker 3: success because the moment we beat the Wolverines, we're gonna
2:16:23
Speaker 3: be catapulted up. You're gonna be on your show talking
2:16:25
Speaker 3: about the power rankings. How we're gonna be like a
2:16:27
Speaker 3: top ten school by week though you're talking about before
2:16:31
Speaker 3: after you beat Michigan. But that's what I'm saying. You're
2:16:34
Speaker 3: going through this world of rule aid and kool aid
2:16:37
Speaker 3: to where how are the boys gonna handle this? And
2:16:39
Speaker 3: this could be a challenging clip because I know when
2:16:42
Speaker 3: we are six and oh and we're gonna go out
2:16:43
Speaker 3: to Maryland or the fluck bank in Minnesota. Everybody knows
2:16:46
Speaker 3: how weird that gets out there. But he runs a
2:16:48
Speaker 3: solid program. We could I could see us dropping one
2:16:51
Speaker 3: because we've gotten too big for our bridges, which gives it,
2:16:54
Speaker 3: which honestly is great timing because then you beat the
2:16:57
Speaker 3: pitts out of Northwestern in those nerds, and then you'll
2:17:00
Speaker 3: host USC and Nebraska and USC is a good team
2:17:03
Speaker 3: this year, and I think we need all the fucking
2:17:05
Speaker 3: pisson vinegar we need. I would rather have us sitting
2:17:08
Speaker 3: at that what is that seven to one? Eight and
2:17:10
Speaker 3: one with the USC coming in with that little ego check. No,
2:17:13
Speaker 3: they're being absolutely undefeated up until USC comes in, because
2:17:16
Speaker 3: I think USC is gonna be a tough team, and
2:17:18
Speaker 3: we would have whooped their ass if the ref would
2:17:20
Speaker 3: have thrown a flag last year on that pass interference
2:17:22
Speaker 3: called late in the game. We beat USC we handle
2:17:25
Speaker 3: Ucla because they fucking beat us last year in our
2:17:28
Speaker 3: home spot and they should not have beat us. And
2:17:30
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna get a bad taste out of
2:17:32
Speaker 3: our mouths with Ucla. We're gonna be motivated.
2:17:34
Speaker 2: Then you go in.
2:17:36
Speaker 3: That's gonna be Look if we're undefeated at Penn State
2:17:38
Speaker 3: or one lost team at Penn State, we're talking all
2:17:42
Speaker 3: of it, big newon kickoff College game Day, what's your fall.
2:17:45
Speaker 2: Tour called Default Don't Lie Tour? Defall Don't Lie Tour?
2:17:49
Speaker 1: What's our what's gonna be ours?
2:17:50
Speaker 2: The Boys of the Fall Tour is gonna be there.
2:17:52
Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna be well at Penn State. Probably a white
2:18:00
Speaker 3: album two. We dropped that one against Penn State. That's
2:18:06
Speaker 3: where I'll take my realism.
2:18:07
Speaker 2: You know where I'm riding.
2:18:08
Speaker 3: I got us twelve and oh personally, but if I'm
2:18:11
Speaker 3: gonna have some realism in this take we drop against
2:18:13
Speaker 3: Penn State, that's where I see us being a two
2:18:15
Speaker 3: loss team. Then we handle and beat the absolute shit
2:18:18
Speaker 3: out of fucking the Iowa Hawk guys, because we need it.
2:18:21
Speaker 3: You want to know the last time, you know, the
2:18:23
Speaker 3: last time they won, or we won at home against
2:18:25
Speaker 3: Iowa twenty eleven when Willie c was operating. Iowa comes
2:18:31
Speaker 3: to Nebraska. We close that one out at home, and
2:18:33
Speaker 3: we go ten and two on the outside looking in
2:18:36
Speaker 3: because I think it's gonna be Penn State Oregon in
2:18:39
Speaker 3: the Big Ten Championship and we're gonna be positioned beautifully
2:18:43
Speaker 3: for the college football playoff. That's my that's my season
2:18:47
Speaker 3: of Nebraska.
2:18:48
Speaker 2: You're right there, all right. So have you seen the
2:18:50
Speaker 2: movie Tremors before?
2:18:51
Speaker 6: Oh?
2:18:52
Speaker 2: Great movie, great movie. Yeah, so you you just ran
2:18:54
Speaker 2: on in it. So you just played the worm. That's
2:18:57
Speaker 2: basically what you played. What I wanted to do, and
2:19:00
Speaker 2: I told Clump this, what I wanted to do is
2:19:03
Speaker 2: plant my flag. Early today. I came in with strategy,
2:19:06
Speaker 2: and what I wanted to do is at the end
2:19:07
Speaker 2: of that movie when they throw the dynamite stick behind
2:19:10
Speaker 2: the worm to piss it off and get it to
2:19:11
Speaker 2: go hard at the edge of the cliff, and then
2:19:14
Speaker 2: you just tunnels tunnels, tunnels through the edge of the
2:19:15
Speaker 2: cliff and it flies down to the bottom. It splatters
2:19:17
Speaker 2: all over the place. I either want you to be
2:19:21
Speaker 2: a legend to end all legends and this to happen,
2:19:24
Speaker 2: or I am playing this on loop in December because
2:19:27
Speaker 2: no one will remember my busted ten and two prediction
2:19:30
Speaker 2: once You've just done this for the past five minutes.
2:19:33
Speaker 2: But I'm with you. I agree with you with the
2:19:35
Speaker 2: Penn State organ I agree with you that Nebraska is
2:19:37
Speaker 2: positioned well. I just I didn't like sweat like a
2:19:40
Speaker 2: Baptist preacher and yell emphatically when I said it, so like,
2:19:44
Speaker 2: I've got no lose situation here. I feel like either
2:19:47
Speaker 2: they come through, which we're all happy, almost all of
2:19:49
Speaker 2: us are happy, or they don't and then you're the
2:19:53
Speaker 2: face of it.
2:19:54
Speaker 1: I can live in that world.
2:19:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been in that world. I'll tell you this.
2:20:01
Speaker 3: I've never been more confident than I am this year.
2:20:04
Speaker 1: I think they can do it.
2:20:08
Speaker 3: J J.
2:20:08
Speaker 1: B Knows what I'm talking about, beautifully said, how do
2:20:14
Speaker 1: you feel about that?
2:20:17
Speaker 2: I like ten to two, That's what I have them going.
2:20:20
Speaker 2: Ten and two? College football playoff team.
2:20:22
Speaker 3: Where do you see the drops? Where do you see
2:20:23
Speaker 3: the losses?
2:20:24
Speaker 1: On that schedule?
2:20:25
Speaker 2: One of Ohio so No. One of USC Penn State,
2:20:29
Speaker 2: and then another random Like you said, I didn't know
2:20:32
Speaker 2: what you said.
2:20:32
Speaker 1: That's nine to three.
2:20:34
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no one of USC or Penn State. Okay, yeah, no, no, no,
2:20:38
Speaker 2: we drop against us.
2:20:39
Speaker 3: See you guys going into Penn State.
2:20:41
Speaker 2: One of Michigan. There's no skill in this ten and two.
2:20:45
Speaker 2: That's what they're doing. They're going ten and two.
2:20:46
Speaker 3: There is skill the beat Michigan.
2:20:49
Speaker 2: I pick them to beat Michigan right now. Why I
2:20:52
Speaker 2: think they're going to be a better football team than Michigan?
2:20:54
Speaker 6: Why I like?
2:20:57
Speaker 2: I don't this is just stalling.
2:21:01
Speaker 1: September twenty first, When things go my way, I'm gonna
2:21:03
Speaker 1: have a hell of a time when the show's fine.
2:21:05
Speaker 2: So I feel like if the game were in November,
2:21:07
Speaker 2: I got almost a full year of Bryce Underwood. I
2:21:09
Speaker 2: feel a little bit better than But he will have
2:21:11
Speaker 2: already gone into Oklahoma, so it's not like going on
2:21:13
Speaker 2: the road's going to be foreign to him. Yeah. I
2:21:15
Speaker 2: don't know. I just like the way the game profile
2:21:17
Speaker 2: is better for him. I should have brought my laptop
2:21:19
Speaker 2: in here.
2:21:20
Speaker 3: You'll have Martindale.
2:21:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like him?
2:21:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, how could you not?
2:21:23
Speaker 2: How much what he's done? Yeah, you're gonna put Ryle
2:21:26
Speaker 2: in a blender, aren't you how much he blitzes nineteen thirteen. Dn't.
2:21:30
Speaker 1: I didn't like how much he blitzed in the beginning
2:21:32
Speaker 1: of the year last year. I thought it was a
2:21:34
Speaker 1: little too chaotic, a little too crazy. I think he
2:21:37
Speaker 1: he listens to the show. I think he got a
2:21:38
Speaker 1: whole lot better, a whole lot more tactical with the
2:21:40
Speaker 1: way he handled his exotic blitzes.
2:21:43
Speaker 3: He does a great job.
2:21:44
Speaker 1: Of hiding the shell. He does a great job of
2:21:46
Speaker 1: not letting you know where it's coming from. But he
2:21:48
Speaker 1: really fine tuned it going in the back half of
2:21:50
Speaker 1: the year. Obviously, we had the four pass turned off
2:21:54
Speaker 1: last year, so it's very hard to evaluate where Michigan is.
2:21:56
Speaker 1: I know we ended up with beating Ohiose State and
2:21:58
Speaker 1: beating Alabama, so that that's a pretty good ending for
2:22:01
Speaker 1: a team that couldn't throw the battle. I think we
2:22:02
Speaker 1: had one hundred and ten yards throwing in both of those.
2:22:05
Speaker 1: Those in mind, it's incredible. We go there in the spring,
2:22:09
Speaker 1: A lot of conversation, obviously revolving on Bryce under what
2:22:11
Speaker 1: everyone really likes him. We got to see him play.
2:22:13
Speaker 1: I thought he was really impressive. The other than the
2:22:15
Speaker 1: one interceptionate a Nico but a lot of guys are
2:22:18
Speaker 1: talking about the defense, how they're actually gonna be better
2:22:21
Speaker 1: even though they've lost the two guys in the middle.
2:22:23
Speaker 2: I've heard that, and I see yeah.
2:22:25
Speaker 1: I mean, they played more than half the year without
2:22:27
Speaker 1: Will Johnson the number one corner. They had a kind
2:22:29
Speaker 1: of a revolving door. They lost their safety to an
2:22:32
Speaker 1: ACL He'll be back. They have a lot of talent. Michigan,
2:22:35
Speaker 1: when I think I have done it, has a really
2:22:36
Speaker 1: good job of is developing players, taking three stars, turning
2:22:40
Speaker 1: him into that five star. I think they've done a
2:22:42
Speaker 1: better job than probably any other team that I can
2:22:45
Speaker 1: think of right now. So when I think about that deal,
2:22:48
Speaker 1: if that defense is better, if that defense is better,
2:22:51
Speaker 1: and Bryce Underwood is seventy five percent of what people
2:22:55
Speaker 1: believe he can be, then I think absolutely they stopped Nebraska.
2:23:00
Speaker 1: It's a double digit. That's double digit, Okay, yeah, I
2:23:03
Speaker 1: think it's ten plus.
2:23:04
Speaker 2: I just think you don't face a ton of offenses
2:23:06
Speaker 2: that can beat you in multiple ways up there and Nebraska.
2:23:09
Speaker 2: If I'm right about it, if I'm wrong about him,
2:23:11
Speaker 2: moot point. If I'm right about him, they'll be one
2:23:12
Speaker 2: of those teams. But so Will Oklahoma, so you will
2:23:14
Speaker 2: have already faced the team. If I'm right about those
2:23:16
Speaker 2: teams that are layered enough to beat you in several
2:23:19
Speaker 2: different ways, like you don't have one answer for them.
2:23:21
Speaker 2: In other words, we'll I'll have.
2:23:22
Speaker 3: A bunch better of an understanding of Michigan.
2:23:24
Speaker 2: We after Oklahoma.
2:23:25
Speaker 3: After Oklahoma, it's like, do they win? Do they lose?
2:23:28
Speaker 1: I don't know, But how did the game? How does
2:23:31
Speaker 1: the game look? How does all sixty minutes that game
2:23:34
Speaker 1: come together? How does Bryce Underwood handle adversity to get
2:23:37
Speaker 1: sacked a couple of times? Because that's the biggest question.
2:23:39
Speaker 1: Mark Roola, I love will sitting because he's got a
2:23:42
Speaker 1: guy that you can see getting better and better. I
2:23:44
Speaker 1: think it's a little disrespectful that I think the top
2:23:46
Speaker 1: ten quarterbacks of college football came out and Roola wasn't
2:23:49
Speaker 1: in it. I think he's a guy that could be
2:23:51
Speaker 1: sitting in that nine or ten spot right now. But
2:23:54
Speaker 1: with Bryce, it's like potential potentially we talked about in
2:23:57
Speaker 1: the intro of the show, haven't done shit yet, So
2:23:59
Speaker 1: I really need to see what he does before I
2:24:01
Speaker 1: start planning a massive flag in the ground. I think
2:24:03
Speaker 1: you're you're never counted out when you're playing, when you're
2:24:06
Speaker 1: with Michigan, never kind of especially seeing what they did
2:24:08
Speaker 1: last year with literally the inability to throw the forward pass,
2:24:13
Speaker 1: because their offensive line is gonna be a lot better
2:24:14
Speaker 1: this year. They have two running backs that can shove
2:24:17
Speaker 1: it down your throat. Yeah, why are receivers that are
2:24:19
Speaker 1: willing to block? And then he had a defense who's
2:24:22
Speaker 1: hunger and swarms for the ball, has exotic blitz. Is
2:24:24
Speaker 1: that a lot of quarterbacks that don't necessarily know how
2:24:27
Speaker 1: to pick apart defense defenses is in college, They're going
2:24:30
Speaker 1: to be thrown a certain way. They're not going to
2:24:33
Speaker 1: really know what to do with certain zeros, with the
2:24:36
Speaker 1: nickel coming when you don't see him coming, flipping the protection,
2:24:39
Speaker 1: those types of things.
2:24:41
Speaker 2: Gritty wins again. Biggest game of the season I've got.
2:24:46
Speaker 1: I've really've just.
2:24:48
Speaker 2: Really been talked into the like external dynamics on this thing,
2:24:50
Speaker 2: feeling like a playoff game. No emotionally invested in it. Yeah,
2:24:54
Speaker 2: I didn't walk into the season emotionally invested in it,
2:24:56
Speaker 2: but now I'm kind of emotionally invested in it. It's
2:24:59
Speaker 2: not just another I wanted to be one of your
2:25:00
Speaker 2: your hinge games that you were going over. Yeah, probably
2:25:03
Speaker 2: I started to fit fast. It probably should have made that.
2:25:06
Speaker 1: Look when's he gonna.
2:25:06
Speaker 3: Start fast forward? It was either gonna be Nebraska, Michigan
2:25:11
Speaker 3: or Michigan Oklahoma, because I know you're big on Oklahoma
2:25:14
Speaker 3: this year too.
2:25:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, why is that? Because I heard and the earlier
2:25:17
Speaker 1: in the year, everyone's like Oklahoma's gonna have a really
2:25:19
Speaker 1: down year. They never seem to really get over the hump.
2:25:20
Speaker 1: This quarterback is supposed to be really good, but we
2:25:22
Speaker 1: don't know if Oklahoma's actually gonna be anything of substance. Yeah,
2:25:25
Speaker 1: now we're getting close to the season. I don't know
2:25:27
Speaker 1: if it's like a draft stock thing where a guy
2:25:30
Speaker 1: is a tweet, like a late first round, early second,
2:25:31
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he hey, this guy could
2:25:33
Speaker 1: possibly be a top ten pick and he still ends
2:25:35
Speaker 1: up going late first round, early second, Like, what is
2:25:38
Speaker 1: Oklahoma to you? Why is it all of a sudden?
2:25:40
Speaker 1: Why is there stock rising so much?
2:25:41
Speaker 2: Because they were never a fatally flawed team. They were
2:25:44
Speaker 2: a team with multiple top ten classes stacked on top
2:25:46
Speaker 2: of each other. They portaled consistently in the top ten
2:25:48
Speaker 2: like last year. Their fatal flaw was they horrifically failed
2:25:52
Speaker 2: at hiring at the OC position, and it was oil
2:25:55
Speaker 2: and water and Jackson Arnold in that offense was dead
2:25:58
Speaker 2: on arrival. It's terrible. So it's the season thrown away.
2:26:01
Speaker 2: And so what people didn't even pay attention to is
2:26:03
Speaker 2: this isn't a terrible team, not the terrible roster. It's
2:26:06
Speaker 2: a pretty good to high level roster with fatal flaw
2:26:09
Speaker 2: in it that makes all the rest of it irrelevant.
2:26:11
Speaker 2: So then they addressed the fatal flaw part one. They
2:26:15
Speaker 2: brought in OC and quarterback from the same place Utah
2:26:17
Speaker 2: did the same thing. By the way, people aren't paying
2:26:19
Speaker 2: attention to that, so Matier comes in with his OC.
2:26:22
Speaker 2: The second thing they did was they attacked the portal.
2:26:25
Speaker 2: The one area they needed to attack the portal, which
2:26:27
Speaker 2: was wide receiver. So they get a kid named Dion
2:26:29
Speaker 2: Burksback who should have been a star last year, transferred
2:26:31
Speaker 2: from perdub but he was hurt, so he's back this year. Dog.
2:26:34
Speaker 2: Then the rest of the wide receiver room I think
2:26:36
Speaker 2: not only is filled out, but it's really complimentary. It's
2:26:38
Speaker 2: not like five of the same dudes. So the one
2:26:41
Speaker 2: question I have about them that I'll be watching early
2:26:43
Speaker 2: in the season, specifically when they get tested in as
2:26:45
Speaker 2: Michigan is. Are they as improved on the offensive line
2:26:48
Speaker 2: as they think, because that was a real liability for him.
2:26:50
Speaker 2: They had like ten different starting rotations last year in
2:26:52
Speaker 2: the first ten weeks. If that's in place, I've actually
2:26:56
Speaker 2: got very little doubt about Mate. I don't question him
2:26:58
Speaker 2: like I think he could contend for high trophy. So
2:27:00
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna play at that high level. Defense conservatively,
2:27:04
Speaker 2: top fifteen unit could be better than that. I just
2:27:07
Speaker 2: think people who are shot when Oklahoma is good this
2:27:09
Speaker 2: year didn't really watch Oklahoma last year. They know the
2:27:12
Speaker 2: quarterback sucked, or the quarterback offensive coordinator Combo sucked and
2:27:15
Speaker 2: the rest of it. They just kind of tuned out.
2:27:17
Speaker 2: They watched it from fifty thousand feet.
2:27:18
Speaker 1: I watched it from I watched them against South Carolina.
2:27:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a bad belth to ask. That was
2:27:24
Speaker 2: a bad day a belt to ask. That was the
2:27:25
Speaker 2: week after Carolina goes into Tuscaloosa and loses.
2:27:28
Speaker 3: I know they should have won that game too. We
2:27:29
Speaker 3: were in Oregon.
2:27:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, they go in there and lose, and Beamer, after
2:27:33
Speaker 2: his fresh conference said, you know what, this is enough
2:27:36
Speaker 2: it's just enough, and they go out to Oklahoma the
2:27:38
Speaker 2: next week. I think it was three pick six's they had.
2:27:41
Speaker 2: They had twenty one nuts, they had twenty one on
2:27:43
Speaker 2: the board and not an offensive point to speak up.
2:27:45
Speaker 2: Just crazy.
2:27:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, you brought up a team and it is in
2:27:48
Speaker 1: your favorite conference, the Bay twelve of Utah. Now a
2:27:51
Speaker 1: lot of people talking about Utah. You think ASU takes well.
2:27:53
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into futures. As we'll talk
2:27:55
Speaker 1: about features on the show. I'll say right now, I
2:27:58
Speaker 1: like ASU, but about Utah.
2:28:01
Speaker 2: Well, Utah, everyone watched Whittingham win double digit games forever
2:28:06
Speaker 2: and then he had a down year last year, and
2:28:08
Speaker 2: people just I don't know. I said this on our
2:28:10
Speaker 2: show last night. I feel like people have made an
2:28:12
Speaker 2: effort to forget about Utah after one down year. It's
2:28:15
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve. There's not a lot of difference in
2:28:17
Speaker 2: ten and two and five and seven. It's like a
2:28:19
Speaker 2: bunch of one possession games, bounce, the ball goes against you,
2:28:22
Speaker 2: injury for them, win against them last year. So everyone's
2:28:25
Speaker 2: talking about Oklahoma going and getting the quarterback oc Combo
2:28:28
Speaker 2: from the same school they did that. They went and
2:28:31
Speaker 2: got a kid named Devon Dan Pierre out of New
2:28:33
Speaker 2: Mexico and brought him back his offensive coordinator, So they
2:28:36
Speaker 2: basically imported an offense and you don't have a quarterback
2:28:39
Speaker 2: learning on the fly elsewhere. It's still Utah. Like the
2:28:42
Speaker 2: roster is still Utah. They're gonna I mean, they could
2:28:44
Speaker 2: take a stone and squeeze it and they get drops
2:28:47
Speaker 2: of water out of it, So they get every possible
2:28:49
Speaker 2: ounce of potential out of a roster they always have.
2:28:52
Speaker 2: So either I'm supposed to believe Whittingham's entire career or
2:28:56
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to believe last year is the new Utah.
2:28:58
Speaker 2: And I don't believe last year is the new Utah
2:29:00
Speaker 2: because it's not like nil and the Portal has sunk
2:29:03
Speaker 2: its teeth into the Big Twelve. In the SEC and
2:29:05
Speaker 2: the Big Ten, they're fundamentally different conferences because of it.
2:29:08
Speaker 2: The Big Twelve, no one outside of Texas Tech, no
2:29:11
Speaker 2: one's spending a ton of money, like, no one's got
2:29:14
Speaker 2: huge roster turn no one's got huge staff turnover. So
2:29:17
Speaker 2: the conference pretty much is what it was. Texas Tech's
2:29:19
Speaker 2: the one exception, and I think there'll be a contender
2:29:21
Speaker 2: this year. But you look at if you've got a
2:29:24
Speaker 2: FanDuel right now, and you look at the odds to
2:29:26
Speaker 2: win the Big Twelve, they don't look like any other conference.
2:29:28
Speaker 2: Every other conference has got a couple pretty high level favorites,
2:29:31
Speaker 2: and then there's some drop off Tier two, drop off,
2:29:33
Speaker 2: Tier three, Kansas State, Utah, Texas Tech, Arizona State, Baylor, TCU.
2:29:40
Speaker 2: They have pretty much identical odds. You would have to
2:29:42
Speaker 2: go to the show me More function before you ever
2:29:44
Speaker 2: got down to someone who's plus fifteen hundred odds or lower.
2:29:47
Speaker 2: So that's the Big Twelve, even Fanduels saying, yeah, we
2:29:51
Speaker 2: just threw these numbers out there, like, go ahead, take
2:29:52
Speaker 2: your pick. If you think you know this conference better
2:29:54
Speaker 2: than we do. Look you go one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
2:29:59
Speaker 2: They're eight teams deep before you get to plus fifteen
2:30:01
Speaker 2: hundred odds, and that plus fifteen hundred is Kansas, who
2:30:05
Speaker 2: with the healthy Jalen Daniels, could win the conference this year.
2:30:08
Speaker 2: They don't play their games in Arrowhead this year, by
2:30:10
Speaker 2: the way, twelve, Yeah, they actually have a home campus
2:30:13
Speaker 2: stadium again this year. Yeah, all right, sure, you.
2:30:17
Speaker 3: Know Shre was fired up about the Big twelve talk you.
2:30:20
Speaker 1: Brought up the NIL. Ever, since nil nil took over,
2:30:24
Speaker 1: you see a massive jump into big ten in national championships.
2:30:27
Speaker 1: Is that proof that the SEC was paying their players
2:30:30
Speaker 1: before nil no?
2:30:31
Speaker 2: The proof of the SEC paying players is that the
2:30:34
Speaker 2: SEC was paying their players like it didn't need to be.
2:30:38
Speaker 2: People look at this as like a one track sort
2:30:40
Speaker 2: of scenario, like, yeah, nil came along, Here's what else happened.
2:30:44
Speaker 2: Nick Saban retired from Alabama. Like Saban retiring in any
2:30:48
Speaker 2: era was going to fundamentally impact the death grip that
2:30:51
Speaker 2: the SEC had on college football because it wasn't the
2:30:54
Speaker 2: SEC that had a death grip. It was Alabama that
2:30:56
Speaker 2: had a death grip on college football, led by Nick Saban. Ten.
2:31:00
Speaker 2: We did our SEC preview on our show last night
2:31:02
Speaker 2: and for all to talk about the depth and competitive balance.
2:31:05
Speaker 2: Ten of the last eleven SEC championships were either one
2:31:08
Speaker 2: by Bama or Georgia. There's one exception that's Burrow and
2:31:11
Speaker 2: LSU in twenty nineteen. Okay, so he retires, I'm not
2:31:15
Speaker 2: You could come back at me and say, but what
2:31:17
Speaker 2: if I told you he retired because of the way
2:31:19
Speaker 2: innil was impacting the sport, you could have some validity there.
2:31:21
Speaker 2: I don't doubt that. But the point remains, if the
2:31:24
Speaker 2: nil thing never changed and Saban retired, that would have
2:31:28
Speaker 2: fundamentally changed the SEC. It would have fundamentally changed college football.
2:31:31
Speaker 2: It just so happens that a lot of that stuff overlapped.
2:31:33
Speaker 2: Like also, somebody would come at me and say, hey man,
2:31:37
Speaker 2: the expanded playoff, that's what's changed everything, Like, no, it hasn't.
2:31:40
Speaker 2: Nick Saban retiring was a bombshell. It was like an
2:31:44
Speaker 2: asteroid into the ocean of college football. So you either
2:31:47
Speaker 2: you really do believe the guy was the greatest of
2:31:49
Speaker 2: all time and acknowledge what I'm saying has to be true,
2:31:52
Speaker 2: or you think he was a fraud, because you can't
2:31:54
Speaker 2: think he was the greatest of all time but not
2:31:57
Speaker 2: acknowledge his retirement had to be a huge monumental change
2:32:00
Speaker 2: at the sport.
2:32:01
Speaker 1: Wasn't he public about NILS one of the bigger reasons
2:32:04
Speaker 1: why he retired there?
2:32:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't. Like I've listened to him, talked
2:32:07
Speaker 2: about it on and off the record. It was absolutely
2:32:09
Speaker 2: a reason he retired. But I would follow up with this,
2:32:12
Speaker 2: Let's say he chose to stay at Alabama. Does anyone
2:32:15
Speaker 2: really think Alabama's gonna fall off a cliff, like they
2:32:18
Speaker 2: were still going to compete. They weren't gonna have three
2:32:20
Speaker 2: deep of future first round NFL talent. No one does,
2:32:23
Speaker 2: Kirby Dutt and Ryan Day doesn't. No one does. But
2:32:26
Speaker 2: that dude always found a way. COVID came around, dude
2:32:30
Speaker 2: just pivoted on a dime. They dominated that year. That
2:32:33
Speaker 2: dude ran three different totally unique versions of offense in
2:32:37
Speaker 2: his time at Alabama. Like they won with Tua, they
2:32:40
Speaker 2: won with Derrick Henry. They won with John Parker Wilson
2:32:43
Speaker 2: and Greg McElroy at quarterback. They won with Bryce Young
2:32:45
Speaker 2: at quarterback. They won with two hundred and sixty pound
2:32:48
Speaker 2: middle linebackers. They won with with Shan Evans at my
2:32:51
Speaker 2: They did all kinds of different things. So at every
2:32:53
Speaker 2: turn of his career he adjusted. He would have adjusted
2:32:56
Speaker 2: to this. It's just he looked at it and said,
2:32:59
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's the version of the game I
2:33:00
Speaker 2: want to coach anymore. Also, in my my seventies and
2:33:03
Speaker 2: I can go work at ESPN and get a raise
2:33:05
Speaker 2: to talk about football instead of just coaching it anymore.
2:33:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point about the SEC.
2:33:12
Speaker 2: But like.
2:33:14
Speaker 1: Alabama having a choke hold on the SEC. If Alabama
2:33:17
Speaker 1: is no longer there, does Georgia and LSU and all
2:33:21
Speaker 1: these other top tier SEC schools, do they go and
2:33:25
Speaker 1: win the national championship you're talking about if they had this?
2:33:29
Speaker 2: Is this is it?
2:33:29
Speaker 1: If like right, we're taking Alabama off the face?
2:33:32
Speaker 2: Yah yeah yeah? Or or just making them another pretty
2:33:34
Speaker 2: good program. Yeah yeah. I don't know. I really don't know.
2:33:38
Speaker 2: I think about I mean, I go back and think
2:33:41
Speaker 2: about like the Mark Rick Georgia teams, the Less Miles
2:33:46
Speaker 2: LSU teams, those teams, those guys legacies were fundamentally changed
2:33:51
Speaker 2: because of Nick Saban. If Saban's not at the SEC,
2:33:53
Speaker 2: first off, Urban probably stays at Florida longer than he did,
2:33:56
Speaker 2: and he may rattle off three or four titles. But
2:33:59
Speaker 2: Mark Rick probably wins one at Georgia Less Miles, if
2:34:03
Speaker 2: not for Alabama, He's got the best team in the
2:34:05
Speaker 2: league most years in those early twenty teens sort of period.
2:34:09
Speaker 2: So I think back about a number of guys and
2:34:13
Speaker 2: how I mean, you can't prove it, you can't prove
2:34:14
Speaker 2: a counterfactual, but you never know, like whose career would
2:34:18
Speaker 2: have taken off because then Kirby's if Saban doesn't take
2:34:20
Speaker 2: off at Alabama, what Herby? Yeah, don't know.
2:34:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel like Alabama the way remind me of
2:34:27
Speaker 1: the head coach Utah.
2:34:28
Speaker 2: Again, Kyle Whittingham.
2:34:30
Speaker 3: You feel like the boor is in a similar situation,
2:34:32
Speaker 3: or it's like the feeling around Bama is Alabama has
2:34:36
Speaker 3: a down year and all we've done is watch Dabor
2:34:39
Speaker 3: double digit wins throughout his entire career.
2:34:42
Speaker 2: To a certain extent, yes, I think the difference with
2:34:45
Speaker 2: that is there's a huge portion of the public that
2:34:47
Speaker 2: actively wants Alabama to lose. I don't think there's a
2:34:50
Speaker 2: large portion of the public that hates Utah. They just
2:34:53
Speaker 2: don't really, They're indifferent. So they've chosen. Like, I think
2:34:56
Speaker 2: it's a lot easier to root for Kenny Dillingham. Kenny's
2:34:59
Speaker 2: an awesome dude. Ude. Really, it's really fun to say,
2:35:02
Speaker 2: like I love what they got going on in Arizona State,
2:35:04
Speaker 2: or like I love Iowa State. I love the colors,
2:35:07
Speaker 2: the mascots, a Tornado, they check all the boxes for me.
2:35:10
Speaker 2: Texas Tech just spent a ton in Nil So it's
2:35:12
Speaker 2: a lot more flashy to root for them. Utah's really
2:35:15
Speaker 2: meat and potatoes, which doesn't really sell. It's not all
2:35:18
Speaker 2: that sexy. So I think that people have forgotten about
2:35:20
Speaker 2: maybe them just because Utah was never at the forefront
2:35:23
Speaker 2: of their mind. Utah had to elbow their way into
2:35:26
Speaker 2: your line of sight every year. No one ever focuses
2:35:29
Speaker 2: on Utah. They make you focus on them. At Alabama,
2:35:32
Speaker 2: I mean, there are a hundred different reasons why people
2:35:34
Speaker 2: want to Board to fail. Unless you're Abama fan. Most
2:35:36
Speaker 2: of America wants him to fail. They want Bama to fail.
2:35:39
Speaker 2: Think about at any given point, like you said, when
2:35:41
Speaker 2: Saban's at Alabama, your one ray of hope in the
2:35:44
Speaker 2: SEC is this dude's a little bit older, so he's
2:35:46
Speaker 2: going to retire eventually. And you always told yourself Bama
2:35:50
Speaker 2: was bad before he got there, So it hasn't been
2:35:53
Speaker 2: a Bama thing. It's been a Saban thing. And once
2:35:56
Speaker 2: he leaves, Bama will revert back. Plus there's going to
2:35:58
Speaker 2: be a whole generation of in title fans who don't
2:36:00
Speaker 2: know reality, they don't know what losing's like. They'll be paranoid,
2:36:03
Speaker 2: they'll run the next coach out of town. The biggest nightmare,
2:36:07
Speaker 2: the biggest nightmare. Yeah, for any non SEC fan or
2:36:10
Speaker 2: non Bama fan. If we clip this later here, I'll
2:36:13
Speaker 2: just do this cleanly. The biggest nightmare for any non
2:36:16
Speaker 2: Bama fan has been saban Era ends. You breathe a
2:36:20
Speaker 2: sigh of relief, and somehow they find a replacement that
2:36:23
Speaker 2: meets that standard again, because it's not supposed to be possible.
2:36:27
Speaker 2: So if he comes in there and wins and dibores
2:36:29
Speaker 2: what in like his early fifties or something like that,
2:36:32
Speaker 2: then what do you.
2:36:33
Speaker 1: Do twenty more years?
2:36:34
Speaker 2: Hell, I was down there. I was down there over
2:36:36
Speaker 2: the weekend. I went and watch the scrimmage. That's one
2:36:39
Speaker 2: of the more physical scrimmages I've ever seen. They built different, dude,
2:36:43
Speaker 2: they got after a different group of cats. They got
2:36:46
Speaker 2: after it. It was more physical than a lot of
2:36:48
Speaker 2: the games you go to in the fall, which brings you.
2:36:50
Speaker 3: Back to Michigan. Yeah, you can beat them two times
2:36:52
Speaker 3: in a row.
2:36:53
Speaker 2: Physical ball club, Yeah, or you. I don't know.
2:36:56
Speaker 3: I'm not like Alabama hater, Wait have you? I'm I
2:37:00
Speaker 3: feel like Alabama hasn't been like people talk about Georgia like.
2:37:03
Speaker 3: I feel like they're not in the conversation as much
2:37:06
Speaker 3: as much. And they went nine to three last year,
2:37:09
Speaker 3: and I feel like just understanding, you know what happens
2:37:13
Speaker 3: when you're just absolutely superior and a coach has a
2:37:17
Speaker 3: you know, not up the expectation year. Then it's like,
2:37:20
Speaker 3: if they had another nine and three year, god forbid,
2:37:23
Speaker 3: eight for eight and four, it's like, are they going
2:37:25
Speaker 3: to be calling for a divorce?
2:37:26
Speaker 2: No, they would, right, they would, There's no doubt about that.
2:37:29
Speaker 2: It's you can think whatever you want to about it,
2:37:32
Speaker 2: but you don't get to take over that job at
2:37:35
Speaker 2: the level it was handed off to him and have
2:37:37
Speaker 2: two down years. The thing about replacing a legend. I
2:37:40
Speaker 2: sat in his office and talked to him about this
2:37:42
Speaker 2: for like two hours in the spring. He's absolutely wired
2:37:45
Speaker 2: the way you have to be wired to work at
2:37:47
Speaker 2: Alabama Post saving because he doesn't care about the whole
2:37:51
Speaker 2: No one wants to take over after a legend. What
2:37:53
Speaker 2: he cared about is is everything operational at the level
2:37:56
Speaker 2: it needs to be, because if it is, like he
2:37:58
Speaker 2: would never say this, but here's how he thinks. Because
2:38:01
Speaker 2: a one percenter thinks this way. They know Saban was great,
2:38:04
Speaker 2: but a one percenter looks in the mirror every morning
2:38:06
Speaker 2: it says, I'm pretty good too, Like I think I'm
2:38:08
Speaker 2: really good too. I think I may be the best
2:38:10
Speaker 2: in the game too. And if I'm being given what
2:38:12
Speaker 2: I need to win, I'm gonna win. I don't care
2:38:14
Speaker 2: who was the boss here before I was the trade
2:38:17
Speaker 2: off on that. The reason that's really so hard to
2:38:19
Speaker 2: replace a legend is because it's hard to win at
2:38:21
Speaker 2: a high level, period, but especially like if you look
2:38:24
Speaker 2: at the legends in college football, very few of them
2:38:27
Speaker 2: retired at their apex. Most of them hung around several
2:38:31
Speaker 2: years too long. So you were taking over a program
2:38:35
Speaker 2: that was trending downwards, but the expectations were still sky high,
2:38:39
Speaker 2: and no one had time for a rebuild. No one
2:38:41
Speaker 2: wanted to listen to you say, I just took over
2:38:44
Speaker 2: for a legend, but we got to start from scratch. Well,
2:38:46
Speaker 2: de Boor walked in. I mean, Saban had just gone
2:38:47
Speaker 2: to the playoffs and overtime against Michigan. Like that's when
2:38:50
Speaker 2: he said, all right, I'm out. So they got a
2:38:52
Speaker 2: loaded roster. They've i mean administratively, like they're about as
2:38:55
Speaker 2: good as anyone got one of the best ads in
2:38:57
Speaker 2: the country. So like organizationally, everything that's where you need it.
2:39:01
Speaker 2: He hands them a world class recruiting and personnel department.
2:39:04
Speaker 2: They kept a lot of those people. A lot of
2:39:06
Speaker 2: the saving people are still there. He infused some of
2:39:09
Speaker 2: his folks, but he wasn't ignorant enough to say, I
2:39:12
Speaker 2: think I'm just going to bring Washington down to Tuscaloosa.
2:39:14
Speaker 2: Like he kept a fair amount of mixture of the two.
2:39:18
Speaker 2: But you go into year two and all that sounds good. Yeah,
2:39:20
Speaker 2: you gotta win. You go eight and four again, there's
2:39:23
Speaker 2: no defending that you play a tough schedule. But yet
2:39:26
Speaker 2: I watched them Saturday. There aren't many rosters that look
2:39:28
Speaker 2: like that. There aren't many coaching staffs that are built
2:39:31
Speaker 2: like that. So twelve saturdays in the fall, that's when
2:39:35
Speaker 2: you get judged. It's totally fair. Get you so juiced
2:39:39
Speaker 2: out for here it does.
2:39:41
Speaker 3: Quick break from the episode, a question for you, what
2:39:44
Speaker 3: do you want to keep safe? Maybe it's your family,
2:39:46
Speaker 3: your kids, that new car in the garage. Traditional security
2:39:49
Speaker 3: systems only take action after someone has already broken in,
2:39:53
Speaker 3: and that's too late. Simply Safe is setting the new
2:39:56
Speaker 3: standard in home security. With active guard outdoor protection, safe
2:40:00
Speaker 3: moditorting agents can help prevent break ins before they happen,
2:40:04
Speaker 3: all because they have AI powered cameras backed by live
2:40:06
Speaker 3: professional monitoring agents that monitor your property and detect suspicious activity.
2:40:11
Speaker 3: If someone's lurking around or acting suspiciously, those agents see
2:40:15
Speaker 3: and talk to them in real time, activate spotlights, and
2:40:19
Speaker 3: even contact the police, helping to proactively deter threats before
2:40:22
Speaker 3: they can escalate into a crisis. You can get fifty
2:40:26
Speaker 3: percent off, boys, let me see that it again. You
2:40:28
Speaker 3: can get fifty percent off your new simply Safe system
2:40:31
Speaker 3: with professional monitoring and your first month free at simplysafe
2:40:35
Speaker 3: dot com slash busting again. That's Simplysafe dot com slash busting.
2:40:41
Speaker 3: There's no safe like simply Safe. Enjoy the rest of
2:40:44
Speaker 3: the episode.
2:40:45
Speaker 2: Let me do a little scouting on my enemy. Okay,
2:40:47
Speaker 2: Ohio State. They're not all that are they.
2:40:53
Speaker 1: Think what their defense? They lose everybody except for two. Yeah,
2:40:57
Speaker 1: I mean they obviously gonna reload completely at the wide
2:40:59
Speaker 1: receiver position. There a wide receiver U essentially quarterback unproven
2:41:03
Speaker 1: Ryan day yippie.
2:41:06
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
2:41:09
Speaker 6: Oh?
2:41:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, some weird celebration.
2:41:11
Speaker 1: For hippieis versus Michigan. Like me, how are we feeling
2:41:19
Speaker 1: about Columbus?
2:41:20
Speaker 2: All right, it's ironic. They open against Texas because of
2:41:24
Speaker 2: the two teams that I'm having trouble with, or Texas
2:41:26
Speaker 2: and Ohio State only because them replacing production is not
2:41:31
Speaker 2: like a normal team replacing production. Because when you go
2:41:34
Speaker 2: watching practice, like when I go watch teams practice, I
2:41:37
Speaker 2: will stand with a player personnel, guy who knows the
2:41:40
Speaker 2: roster entirely, and all I'll do is say, who is that?
2:41:43
Speaker 1: Who is that?
2:41:43
Speaker 2: Who is that? Gimme history, gimme his story, and I'll
2:41:46
Speaker 2: ask about twos. I don't ask about the starters. You
2:41:48
Speaker 2: know the starters. I'll ask about twos and threes. And
2:41:50
Speaker 2: at Texas and Ohio State it's constantly that dude to start.
2:41:53
Speaker 2: Everywhere else that guy will be a future first round
2:41:56
Speaker 2: or for us, and they're running with the twos and
2:41:57
Speaker 2: the three. So like, okay, you put that in the
2:41:59
Speaker 2: back your and then you know, once they send thirteen, fourteen,
2:42:02
Speaker 2: fifteen to the draft, the two's become the ones, the
2:42:04
Speaker 2: three's become the twos. YadA, YadA, YadA. You don't know
2:42:07
Speaker 2: their names. But not every new starter is created equal
2:42:11
Speaker 2: in the sport. Texas and Ohio State have aliens on
2:42:13
Speaker 2: their bench doesn't mean anything. It doesn't guarantee that they're
2:42:17
Speaker 2: going to produce, but you just like, there's a benefit
2:42:19
Speaker 2: of the doubt you bake in. And I've done it
2:42:21
Speaker 2: with them. I did it with saving at Bam. I
2:42:23
Speaker 2: do it with Kirby, I do it with Sark, I
2:42:24
Speaker 2: do it with Landing. I'll do it with them too,
2:42:27
Speaker 2: to where if you think they're good enough, if they
2:42:31
Speaker 2: meet the standard it takes to start for you, I
2:42:34
Speaker 2: trust them. It may not be as good as last
2:42:35
Speaker 2: year's team. Maybe some of those guys raw talent levels
2:42:39
Speaker 2: better than last year's team, and the experienced levels not
2:42:41
Speaker 2: there those two teams. It's so important not to draw
2:42:45
Speaker 2: definitive conclusions after week one. Like Penn State, you can
2:42:48
Speaker 2: draw conclusions after week one. You've seen all those players.
2:42:51
Speaker 2: They added some wide receiver help, let's see what they
2:42:53
Speaker 2: are at tight end. But largely, like Penn State's going
2:42:55
Speaker 2: to be who they are, Ohio State and Texas should
2:42:58
Speaker 2: look a ton different in no like, when you play him,
2:43:01
Speaker 2: do you really think Ohio State goes to ann Arbor
2:43:04
Speaker 2: last week of November. It's just going to be like
2:43:06
Speaker 2: a copy and paste of week one in Columbus. There's
2:43:09
Speaker 2: no way that's the case. No.
2:43:10
Speaker 1: I mean there's so many different variables, injuries, all all
2:43:12
Speaker 1: sorts of difference.
2:43:13
Speaker 2: Things, even if they're healthy, different Jersey, even if ye're true,
2:43:16
Speaker 2: even if they went wire to wire healthy, which will
2:43:18
Speaker 2: never happen. I would love to see how different that
2:43:20
Speaker 2: team looks in week What is that fourteen? This year
2:43:23
Speaker 2: two by weeks? Yeah, I'd love to see how different
2:43:25
Speaker 2: they look. Not to mention there will be injury always.
2:43:28
Speaker 6: God.
2:43:30
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to the Texas hof State game.
2:43:32
Speaker 2: I'm excited, just.
2:43:33
Speaker 1: Like every other person is to see arch Manning. Is
2:43:37
Speaker 1: he really what everyone says he is? Seems like he
2:43:39
Speaker 1: has the right head on his shoulders. You know, he
2:43:41
Speaker 1: had a little press conmence the other day talking about
2:43:43
Speaker 1: doing shots. He's like, I'm twenty one, I can do
2:43:44
Speaker 1: a shot. Like, Oh, he's got a little personality to him.
2:43:46
Speaker 1: He's got that Manning pizzaz. You know, it's just like,
2:43:50
Speaker 1: is he going to be that guy? But do you
2:43:51
Speaker 1: that's a lot of pressure?
2:43:52
Speaker 4: Do you like?
2:43:53
Speaker 2: What? So if someone were to say, let's do the
2:43:55
Speaker 2: three of us here, someone tells you in ten seconds,
2:43:59
Speaker 2: give me your expects for Arch Manning this year?
2:44:01
Speaker 1: Go great? Heisman candidate go Heisman candidate, possible Master champion.
2:44:06
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a fringe Heisman candidate.
2:44:08
Speaker 2: He's going to be a pretty good to really good quarterback.
2:44:11
Speaker 2: So I stopped short of the whole hyping him up
2:44:13
Speaker 2: to be elite, hyping him up to be the Heisman favorite,
2:44:16
Speaker 2: only cause people do that all the time to college players.
2:44:20
Speaker 2: And then it gets to December and let's say I
2:44:23
Speaker 2: let's say I think arch is the best quarterback in
2:44:25
Speaker 2: the country. I pick him to win the Heisman. He's
2:44:27
Speaker 2: the fourth best quarterback in the country this year. What
2:44:30
Speaker 2: happens in sports media land is no one looks at
2:44:33
Speaker 2: that kid in December and says, well, he played the
2:44:37
Speaker 2: way he was going to play. I'm the I'm the
2:44:39
Speaker 2: dude who screwed up. I'm the dude who over hyped him.
2:44:41
Speaker 2: No one does that. No one ever looks in the mirror.
2:44:43
Speaker 2: They look at the kid and say, you were a bust. Right.
2:44:46
Speaker 2: But Arch Manning hasn't set an expectation for himself. Arch
2:44:48
Speaker 2: Manning hasn't made a prediction on himself. People who write
2:44:51
Speaker 2: for a living or talk for a living have so
2:44:53
Speaker 2: like the way I do it. With all these new
2:44:54
Speaker 2: starters is I assume that dude's there's a very high
2:44:58
Speaker 2: floor for him. But my expectation for him is, I
2:45:02
Speaker 2: think you're gonna be pretty good to really good. Anything
2:45:04
Speaker 2: above and beyond that is just gravy for me. You're
2:45:07
Speaker 2: playing for Texas. You shouldn't have to be an elite
2:45:09
Speaker 2: quarterback to win at Texas. If you are, they'll remember
2:45:13
Speaker 2: you for a long time. You could have an iconic
2:45:15
Speaker 2: season loading all that. But I think he's gonna be
2:45:17
Speaker 2: pretty good to really good. I think they'll be inconsistencies.
2:45:20
Speaker 2: He's human. Uh, they're gonna there's gonna be a game
2:45:22
Speaker 2: randomly where he throws two picks before halftime and people
2:45:25
Speaker 2: are gonna say, sorry, do you have to think about
2:45:27
Speaker 2: maybe making a change? No, you don't make a change
2:45:29
Speaker 2: in the third quarter. This is this is real life.
2:45:32
Speaker 2: You got He's got to go to Columbus, Gainesville and
2:45:35
Speaker 2: Athens before they even play O you in Dallas. I
2:45:39
Speaker 2: think like his four toughest games are away from Austin.
2:45:41
Speaker 1: That stuff's not easy, right, kind of a soft take though,
2:45:46
Speaker 1: just kind of making it easy, right, I'm making it
2:45:48
Speaker 1: easy on I'm making yeah, kind of a cop out.
2:45:53
Speaker 1: Heisman national champion. I think he's gonna be good to
2:45:55
Speaker 1: pretty good.
2:45:56
Speaker 2: Good to pretty good. Anyone can say that. But I
2:45:59
Speaker 2: picked material to win the high Man. Yeah that's a.
2:46:01
Speaker 6: That's a.
2:46:02
Speaker 1: You think he's gonna play the whole season with suspending.
2:46:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do. I do. I'm comfortable he put
2:46:07
Speaker 2: a statement out.
2:46:09
Speaker 1: Every statements, I mean, what more can you do. I'm sure,
2:46:13
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a good kid, and I'm sure he
2:46:15
Speaker 1: fucks around and mess with his boys or whatever.
2:46:18
Speaker 2: But you know, that hit home for me because I
2:46:20
Speaker 2: am still on my dad's cell phone plan. I've never
2:46:23
Speaker 2: gotten off of it. I pay him, I pay him
2:46:24
Speaker 2: every month. But I'm I've never come off of my parents'
2:46:27
Speaker 2: cell phone plan, and I'm nearly forty years old to
2:46:29
Speaker 2: grow up, So I really am I pay I pay
2:46:34
Speaker 2: my dad via Vemo every month. If you were to
2:46:37
Speaker 2: look at the transaction, if I was dumb and excuse me,
2:46:39
Speaker 2: if I were inexperienced in life enough to have my
2:46:41
Speaker 2: transaction history on public and you saw what I use
2:46:47
Speaker 2: as the description when I pay my dad for my
2:46:49
Speaker 2: cell phone bill, you would think we were running a
2:46:50
Speaker 2: Mexican drug cartel. And all I'm doing is paying my
2:46:53
Speaker 2: cell phone bill, so we're running a cartel, like one
2:46:55
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen dollars at a time. But so when
2:46:58
Speaker 2: he said, look, I've never bet on sports in my life.
2:47:01
Speaker 2: It's just an inside joke between me and my buddies.
2:47:05
Speaker 2: He's probably lying, but I got it. I related to
2:47:08
Speaker 2: it because that's what I do. Probably lyon, but I
2:47:11
Speaker 2: got it.
2:47:12
Speaker 3: Do we want to do before we let Josh peiy go?
2:47:14
Speaker 3: Do we want to talk about the conclusion of the
2:47:18
Speaker 3: Michigan Wolverines. You said you want to do a little Yeah.
2:47:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to know about what do you think
2:47:22
Speaker 1: about my Wolverines. I want to get your true opinion
2:47:24
Speaker 1: about Bryce underward if you've been able to watch him
2:47:26
Speaker 1: at practice.
2:47:26
Speaker 2: I have not been up there. Oh, I have not
2:47:28
Speaker 2: been able to watch. So I think it's gonna be
2:47:30
Speaker 2: pretty good, really good. That's where that's where I think.
2:47:34
Speaker 1: He seems like a cat to me, Like even sitting
2:47:35
Speaker 1: here as a Michigan Homer, like, the expectation is insane
2:47:39
Speaker 1: for this kid.
2:47:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the one. He's the one guy that he
2:47:42
Speaker 2: could transform the season for because if you think about it,
2:47:45
Speaker 2: like I think the same thing about Georgia's offensive line,
2:47:47
Speaker 2: the Michigan quarterback position. If they get a minus quarterback
2:47:51
Speaker 2: play when everyone's expecting question mark or C plus or
2:47:54
Speaker 2: B minus, it's fundamentally changes their season and the season
2:47:59
Speaker 2: downstream of like ten other teams. Yeah, so I haven't
2:48:03
Speaker 2: been able to watch them though, so I don't know.
2:48:04
Speaker 1: Basically, what you're saying is Michigan football.
2:48:07
Speaker 2: And everything just revolves. That's it.
2:48:09
Speaker 1: Did they get a slap on the risk for theirs?
2:48:13
Speaker 2: I didn't get upset about it, fine, because I thought
2:48:16
Speaker 2: what happened was what was going to happen. Here's what
2:48:20
Speaker 2: I'll say. They alleged multiple level one violations when you
2:48:25
Speaker 2: were a kid. You were a kid, I was a kid.
2:48:27
Speaker 2: That means hammer's dropping on your head, borderline death penalty,
2:48:31
Speaker 2: multi year postseason band all right. A lot of people
2:48:34
Speaker 2: out in Ohio state message board world allowed themselves to
2:48:38
Speaker 2: believe it was still two thousand and three, and it's not.
2:48:40
Speaker 2: And so my whole philosophy and I know this because
2:48:43
Speaker 2: I had a network executive explained it to me. I
2:48:45
Speaker 2: wasn't just guessing my way through it. They said, do
2:48:48
Speaker 2: you really think that we are paying billions of dollars
2:48:52
Speaker 2: to leagues which are just university presidents. That's what a
2:48:55
Speaker 2: league is. Those university presidents created the NCAA the same
2:49:00
Speaker 2: way that NFL owners created Roger Goodell's position, so that
2:49:04
Speaker 2: he can take the heat and take the ARA so
2:49:06
Speaker 2: the owners don't have to. Well, university presidents created the
2:49:09
Speaker 2: NCAA and the Enforcement Arm and the Investigation Arm and
2:49:12
Speaker 2: the Committee on Infractions. They own that like they created it.
2:49:16
Speaker 2: And that executive said, do you really think we're going
2:49:19
Speaker 2: to hand billions of dollars to university presidents only for
2:49:22
Speaker 2: those university presidents to voluntarily have an enforcement arm that
2:49:26
Speaker 2: punitively punishes one of the assets that we paid for
2:49:30
Speaker 2: to the point where a fewer people watch it. That's
2:49:32
Speaker 2: not what we're in the business of doing. So they
2:49:34
Speaker 2: can find them all they want to, they can give
2:49:36
Speaker 2: show causes all they want to. They're not getting a
2:49:38
Speaker 2: postseason banned. That was never on the table, and people
2:49:41
Speaker 2: built it up in their minds, and they said, well,
2:49:43
Speaker 2: look at what happened in previous worlds when Level one
2:49:46
Speaker 2: violations were alleged. That's a previous world. Billions were not
2:49:50
Speaker 2: on the table back then, just merely millions. We're in
2:49:53
Speaker 2: billions land now, no one gets postseason banned.
2:49:56
Speaker 1: Anymorey, big whale hunting is what we're doing around here. Yeah,
2:49:59
Speaker 1: so base, what you're saying is a lot of allegations.
2:50:03
Speaker 1: They did their investigation, realized we don't have a whole
2:50:06
Speaker 1: lot of footing to stand on, and so they slapped
2:50:08
Speaker 1: him with a twenty million dollar fine aka dropping the
2:50:11
Speaker 1: bucket and says Sean, you got to suspend yourself for
2:50:14
Speaker 1: one more game, and and.
2:50:15
Speaker 2: You just choose when it's gonna be this year, next year, whatever.
2:50:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is us saving face.
2:50:21
Speaker 2: I do think it looked. Yes, yeah, what you said, right, I.
2:50:25
Speaker 3: Think we don't have to do anymore.
2:50:26
Speaker 2: No.
2:50:26
Speaker 1: I thought they were going to go retracting wins. I
2:50:28
Speaker 1: thought they were going to try and do that. I
2:50:30
Speaker 1: never believed that matter, which, by the way, is the
2:50:32
Speaker 1: dumbest thing.
2:50:32
Speaker 2: No, I've never believed it matters. I got his.
2:50:37
Speaker 1: Heisman, like he had his heisman. He's got a photo
2:50:38
Speaker 1: with the heisman. Oh you don't get the heisman anymore.
2:50:40
Speaker 1: Still got the photo.
2:50:41
Speaker 2: I said this on my show, and a bunch of
2:50:43
Speaker 2: people said, oh, it matters a lot. I said, no,
2:50:44
Speaker 2: it doesn't. I was there, like I was there when
2:50:47
Speaker 2: you won the national Championship. I still there with JJ
2:50:49
Speaker 2: McCarthy on TV after the game. You can't tell me
2:50:52
Speaker 2: all of a sudden from Indianapolis, Indiana at NCAA headquarters. Hey,
2:50:55
Speaker 2: that experience you had, forget it, it happened, didn't exist.
2:50:58
Speaker 2: So that never mattered to me. That's why I thought
2:51:00
Speaker 2: they'd do it, because that's all window dressing, that's all aesthetic.
2:51:03
Speaker 2: They didn't even do that.
2:51:04
Speaker 1: And also when the microscope finally went on Michigan, it's
2:51:07
Speaker 1: right before Penn State, Maryland, which I said that he
2:51:11
Speaker 1: was gonna be the hardest game of the year, Ohio State, Alabama,
2:51:14
Speaker 1: and Washington. So if you're being everyone is watching every
2:51:17
Speaker 1: single thing you do. Let's say you were cheating. Let's
2:51:19
Speaker 1: say all the worst things are real. There's no way
2:51:21
Speaker 1: to cheat. Those games, can't do it.
2:51:23
Speaker 3: They also would have never gotten rid of any evidence.
2:51:26
Speaker 3: Who what Like Michigan got rid of all the evidence.
2:51:29
Speaker 3: Like they said that something happened, but there was nothing
2:51:32
Speaker 3: that they could the manifesto lived out Like I'm talking
2:51:35
Speaker 3: Topuku gutted himself through cell phones in the water.
2:51:39
Speaker 1: A lot of evidence was a lot of alleged a
2:51:42
Speaker 1: lot of alleged things happened, but the manifesto it's like, yeah, sorry,
2:51:45
Speaker 1: my boy is detail oriented who is also a marine,
2:51:48
Speaker 1: by the way, show some respect.
2:51:51
Speaker 2: So it's like, you attack Michigan, you attacked the huge people.
2:51:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, you ta Michigan. Like, listen, Michigan didn't do anything wrong.
2:52:01
Speaker 3: I feel like how long?
2:52:03
Speaker 1: How long?
2:52:03
Speaker 2: Is just amazing?
2:52:05
Speaker 1: Man.
2:52:06
Speaker 2: Clearly they did stuff wrong, right, clearly they did. You
2:52:09
Speaker 2: don't have to pretend it's a boy scout troop up there.
2:52:11
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that.
2:52:12
Speaker 1: You don't have to go.
2:52:13
Speaker 2: Scouts on or they did stuff wrong. They didn't get
2:52:15
Speaker 2: popped for it, and it wasn't as wrong as some
2:52:18
Speaker 2: of the internet was. Didn't do anything wrong.
2:52:21
Speaker 1: Listen, there are rules, Yes, Mike vrabel sits there, he goes.
2:52:25
Speaker 1: You find the rules, you exploit them, and you good
2:52:28
Speaker 1: teams use the rules to their advantage. Michigan is a
2:52:31
Speaker 1: good football team that took the rules, found the gray,
2:52:34
Speaker 1: explored the gray. Those will be sewn up. There's a
2:52:36
Speaker 1: reason why the reason. There's a reason why there's tax.
2:52:41
Speaker 1: There's a reason why there's tax.
2:52:42
Speaker 2: Lobonaires. There's a different gray area. Gray areas you skirt
2:52:48
Speaker 2: us to trying.
2:52:49
Speaker 1: You're trying to compete. You want these things to not happen.
2:52:52
Speaker 2: Make them black and white rules. I got no problem
2:52:55
Speaker 2: with it. I'm not running the anything wrong. I'm just
2:52:57
Speaker 2: saying it's a great area only because you know they
2:52:59
Speaker 2: really can't pop you for it, even though there's a
2:53:01
Speaker 2: rule against it. That's different than you haven't thought, like
2:53:05
Speaker 2: landing point twelve on the team on the field last
2:53:07
Speaker 2: year and the big tank got mad and he was like,
2:53:10
Speaker 2: there's no rule against it. Yes, that's different than what
2:53:13
Speaker 2: we're talking about here. You got off because there are
2:53:16
Speaker 2: rules against illegal scouting. It's just Connor looked at it
2:53:19
Speaker 2: and said, how are they ever going to prove this?
2:53:21
Speaker 2: Which was smart because they can't.
2:53:23
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, But Connor his punishment, what is it like
2:53:27
Speaker 1: an eight year Oh?
2:53:28
Speaker 2: Yes, like which honestly he got the punishment. Who said
2:53:32
Speaker 2: someone was anybody got punished, he got he punished. But
2:53:35
Speaker 2: I mean he could go work in the NFL tomorrow.
2:53:37
Speaker 2: There's a role in the NFL for him tomorrow. Yeah
2:53:39
Speaker 2: it's in Seattle. I bet could be. I bet you
2:53:43
Speaker 2: could be.
2:53:44
Speaker 3: No, you're you're right, I do Yeah, yeah, I wasn't.
2:53:48
Speaker 2: I just love the to the two sides of this.
2:53:51
Speaker 2: I watched this from a distance, and I watched Ohio
2:53:54
Speaker 2: State claim that anything less than removing the Michigan logo
2:53:59
Speaker 2: from the sport of college football would be a stain
2:54:02
Speaker 2: on the veil of the game, right and get on
2:54:04
Speaker 2: this bus. And we did nothing wrong.
2:54:07
Speaker 3: We did nothing wrong, because you got a Michigan side
2:54:09
Speaker 3: where there's like this this this arrogance about it, like
2:54:12
Speaker 3: they just they don't say that, they claim that nothing happened.
2:54:16
Speaker 3: And it's like, you guys can have some awareness and
2:54:19
Speaker 3: know that something happened, but you got away with it.
2:54:20
Speaker 3: Like you guys still won the.
2:54:22
Speaker 1: National title, still won the national can't take it away
2:54:25
Speaker 1: from it, can't take it away. We did it. It's like, yeah,
2:54:28
Speaker 1: Connor did was he at the tentionral Michigan game? Probably
2:54:31
Speaker 1: was he?
2:54:31
Speaker 3: What was he doing those days?
2:54:33
Speaker 1: Probably prove it.
2:54:35
Speaker 3: I think I did get it done.
2:54:36
Speaker 2: I think you did.
2:54:41
Speaker 1: You did, I will say, and I know, like obviously,
2:54:44
Speaker 1: ohiose Sate and I have a very interesting relationship. But
2:54:47
Speaker 1: the fact that Michigan had all these things and get
2:54:49
Speaker 1: slapped with what they had, but in twenty eleven or ten,
2:54:53
Speaker 1: they get free tattoos and they have bull bands when
2:54:57
Speaker 1: they went that was.
2:54:59
Speaker 2: They would have won the Nay?
2:55:00
Speaker 3: Would they would have won the Natty Championship.
2:55:04
Speaker 1: That is the craziest s if i'mn'n know how a
2:55:06
Speaker 1: State fan. I'm pissed about it too.
2:55:07
Speaker 2: I'm going to have every I completely court. I'm getting
2:55:11
Speaker 2: my wins back.
2:55:14
Speaker 1: Was it UCF that put up their twenty twenty three
2:55:16
Speaker 1: National Championship banner?
2:55:17
Speaker 2: Hang State?
2:55:18
Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing.
2:55:21
Speaker 2: To Michigan.
2:55:22
Speaker 1: We won the Natty in twenty eleven or whatever the year,
2:55:25
Speaker 1: words that they didn't.
2:55:28
Speaker 2: Prove we didn't. No, I get it.
2:55:30
Speaker 1: I understand the whole Michigan thing and people want to
2:55:32
Speaker 1: hate on it. I think it's funnier than anything else.
2:55:34
Speaker 2: I did laugh.
2:55:36
Speaker 1: Heyt that does suck. That State fan that is got
2:55:41
Speaker 1: a that is some bullshit. Whatever. Manch Mitch is an
2:55:48
Speaker 1: Ohio State fans alleged, Yeah, he didn't know. The de
2:55:51
Speaker 1: coordinator alleged, Yeah, so you haven't really done a deep
2:55:57
Speaker 1: dove on Michigan yet. You haven't looked into it.
2:55:59
Speaker 2: Not he did, degree of like going up there and
2:56:01
Speaker 2: watching them.
2:56:02
Speaker 1: Okay, but you've looked into them. You've looked into their
2:56:05
Speaker 1: enough threes. Yeah, like I mean, so if we threw
2:56:08
Speaker 1: up the schedule here, you'd have a good thought. Probably
2:56:09
Speaker 1: think I had him at eight and four.
2:56:11
Speaker 2: I don't like that. I took under eight and a half.
2:56:13
Speaker 2: I did take that.
2:56:14
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw a tweet.
2:56:15
Speaker 2: Ye I blocked you. But I feel like it's twenty
2:56:17
Speaker 2: twenty six. I look at this, You're gonna feel different,
2:56:20
Speaker 2: which I would if I were you. Two. I'm looking
2:56:23
Speaker 2: at them and saying it kind of like with the
2:56:25
Speaker 2: thing we were talking about a second ago with Arch.
2:56:27
Speaker 2: Anything above eight and a half wins. I get this
2:56:30
Speaker 2: year great, wonderful. If we go on a run, we
2:56:33
Speaker 2: go on a run. But I look at the way
2:56:34
Speaker 2: they're built with underwood. I am thinking twenty twenty six.
2:56:37
Speaker 2: I'm viewing this entire prism or season through the prism
2:56:39
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six. So I think they're a year
2:56:41
Speaker 2: away in a lot of areas. That's what I'm saying.
2:56:44
Speaker 2: That's what the vible.
2:56:44
Speaker 1: Where do Where do you see them falling? Don't say Nebraska,
2:56:47
Speaker 1: but you see them losing Oklahoma? Oh, you you're gonna
2:56:50
Speaker 1: pick Nebraska.
2:56:51
Speaker 2: Maybe, Well, if you don't look at the mass clusters
2:56:54
Speaker 2: like USC and who else This Washington team sucked on
2:56:57
Speaker 2: the road last year. That's gonna be a sleeper team
2:56:59
Speaker 2: this year. That's one of the best quarterbacks you'll face
2:57:01
Speaker 2: this year. Keep scrolling Michigan State USC kind of as
2:57:06
Speaker 2: a sleeper, but I don't have.
2:57:07
Speaker 1: That USC at USC. Yeah, last year, enough data anytime
2:57:12
Speaker 1: the Big Ten had to travel.
2:57:17
Speaker 2: Going out west though, I don't know that was a
2:57:20
Speaker 2: classic game last year.
2:57:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the last one steal o.
2:57:24
Speaker 2: Higo State game. I mean I'd pick Ohio State right now,
2:57:26
Speaker 2: but I've picked them four years in the row. So yeah,
2:57:28
Speaker 2: to me, it's like, doesn't matter. Yeah, Hog States, it
2:57:32
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I'll probably just keep picking them now out
2:57:35
Speaker 2: of principal.
2:57:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't change it because I keep any Michigan.
2:57:38
Speaker 2: Well, think about how dumb you look if you picked
2:57:39
Speaker 2: Ohio State four years in a row and then the
2:57:41
Speaker 2: year you picked Michigan at inverts So you just got
2:57:43
Speaker 2: to stay on one side.
2:57:45
Speaker 3: But you look at the it's not the most difficult
2:57:47
Speaker 3: schedule in the world.
2:57:47
Speaker 2: No, it's not a close games.
2:57:49
Speaker 1: I mean, you got Oklahoma, Nebraska are tough games. US
2:57:52
Speaker 1: he is a tough game.
2:57:53
Speaker 2: Washington.
2:57:54
Speaker 1: I think it's a gift back here, we got one,
2:57:56
Speaker 1: they got one. They come to Michigan.
2:57:58
Speaker 2: I'm wondering, just a random game on October fourth, Wisconsin,
2:58:02
Speaker 2: multiple years in under Luke Fickle, I'm shocked there where
2:58:04
Speaker 2: they are. See I I don't know a lot about Wisconsin.
2:58:08
Speaker 2: I don't have an identity exactly. You can't know. That's
2:58:10
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about.
2:58:11
Speaker 1: You are kind of saying they're like bad here, toughier
2:58:13
Speaker 1: coming to I think I took.
2:58:14
Speaker 2: Under five and a half wins on them. I think
2:58:16
Speaker 2: they're gonna be bad.
2:58:17
Speaker 1: So you think October four, they're just gonna sneak up
2:58:19
Speaker 1: on Michigan.
2:58:20
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying is it shouldn't be what I'm saying,
2:58:23
Speaker 2: Multiple years in under Luke Fickle, like questioning the identity
2:58:27
Speaker 2: of that team was the last place I thought I
2:58:29
Speaker 2: would be. But he tried to do something different.
2:58:31
Speaker 1: He did.
2:58:32
Speaker 2: People aren't talking about it. But like Lincoln Riley made
2:58:35
Speaker 2: a bad offensive or a defense coordinator higher when he
2:58:37
Speaker 2: first took over, Kelly did the same thing at LSU.
2:58:40
Speaker 2: They have since course corrected. Fickle did that offensively. He
2:58:43
Speaker 2: hired Phil Longo, and he tried to change what Wisconsin
2:58:47
Speaker 2: had been for one hundred years and it failed, and
2:58:49
Speaker 2: now they're trying to course correct and it's like, but
2:58:51
Speaker 2: you're doing that three years in, right, and that's not
2:58:54
Speaker 2: what you're supposed to be doing three years in. So
2:58:57
Speaker 2: I'm not saying no, that's not like an upset potential game.
2:58:59
Speaker 2: I'm just Wisconsin plays the toughest schedule in that league
2:59:02
Speaker 2: this year there there, I think they play one team
2:59:05
Speaker 2: in conference play that has worse odds than them. Every
2:59:09
Speaker 2: other eight of the nine Big Ten games they play
2:59:12
Speaker 2: are against teams with better odds than them, and they
2:59:14
Speaker 2: play BAM out of conference on the road in Tuscaloosa.
2:59:17
Speaker 2: So if they win five games this year, what are
2:59:20
Speaker 2: they doing?
2:59:21
Speaker 1: Right?
2:59:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah.
2:59:23
Speaker 3: I was surprised too with Fickle talks about the Cincinnati.
2:59:29
Speaker 2: That sneaky, not that game, but Illinois is a team
2:59:32
Speaker 2: As a usc goes there in like Week five, I
2:59:35
Speaker 2: think it's like one of the sneak games of the year,
2:59:37
Speaker 2: like Southern Cal. If they win that, when they're off
2:59:38
Speaker 2: to the races, they're undefeated when they play all they
2:59:41
Speaker 2: got on the road at Notre Dame after that, like
2:59:43
Speaker 2: Southern Cal's in the playoff picture. If they win that game.
2:59:45
Speaker 2: If they lose that game, it's probably the first of
2:59:47
Speaker 2: three or four losses again, gotcha, yea, yeah, USC at Illinois,
2:59:54
Speaker 2: I don't think the country is going to be talking
2:59:55
Speaker 2: about that. USC at Illinois and like Texas at Florida
2:59:58
Speaker 2: are two random, huge, huge games on the schedule around
3:00:02
Speaker 2: the same time that the people just start circling it
3:00:04
Speaker 2: because they're not typical rivalry games. They don't happen every year.
3:00:08
Speaker 2: Florida people aren't used to being a competitor. Illinois that
3:00:10
Speaker 2: people are not used for them to be in the picture.
3:00:12
Speaker 2: And they're both in the picture this year, and it's
3:00:15
Speaker 2: just those games are there, and you're gonna get to
3:00:17
Speaker 2: that week and you're gonna say, oh, this is a
3:00:18
Speaker 2: huge game. Yeah, I think it'll make or break USC season.
3:00:22
Speaker 2: It could make or break Texas the season. When they
3:00:24
Speaker 2: go into Gainsville, they will have already played Ohio State
3:00:27
Speaker 2: on the road. They go into Gainsville, they've got owe
3:00:30
Speaker 2: you the next week, and they still got a trip
3:00:33
Speaker 2: to Georgia later in the year, so New Texas has
3:00:35
Speaker 2: got It's not the toughest schedule in the league. All
3:00:38
Speaker 2: their tough ones are on the.
3:00:39
Speaker 1: Road, though, big boys schedule.
3:00:41
Speaker 3: I like it for a final question or Bud like,
3:00:43
Speaker 3: what's up?
3:00:44
Speaker 2: I said, one more before you do? Bud like question?
3:00:46
Speaker 1: Any relation to brock Bowers.
3:00:49
Speaker 2: DNA wise, I don't think so. However, you know there's
3:00:56
Speaker 2: more to that than just blood. Yeah, and so I
3:00:59
Speaker 2: feel a lot close to broad now than I did
3:01:02
Speaker 2: two three weeks ago. And you both got hair. You
3:01:06
Speaker 2: would't understand it. Side note, my beautiful wife piece of
3:01:12
Speaker 2: advice walking out the door this morning, this came out
3:01:15
Speaker 2: of her mouth. I kid you not. She goes, where
3:01:17
Speaker 2: are you going? I said, I'm going to do the
3:01:18
Speaker 2: bus and show. She said, don't try and upstage them.
3:01:22
Speaker 2: They have mustaches. I just looked at her, like I'm
3:01:27
Speaker 2: looking at you now.
3:01:29
Speaker 1: Did that make you think I should grow a mustache?
3:01:32
Speaker 2: It made me think you've never mentioned facial hair to
3:01:35
Speaker 2: me in my life. I didn't know that you were
3:01:37
Speaker 2: harboring this idea that like you're inferior if you're not
3:01:40
Speaker 2: walking around with it. But now it's not. I love you,
3:01:43
Speaker 2: I'll see you later, Like do you want me to
3:01:44
Speaker 2: cook to night? It's don't try and upstage them. They
3:01:46
Speaker 2: have mustaches. So for bron Bowers to be coming to
3:01:50
Speaker 2: me instead of you know, me going towards brockb It
3:01:52
Speaker 2: feels good. Yeah, welcome.
3:01:54
Speaker 3: I can open up a can of.
3:01:55
Speaker 1: Worms with a mustache.
3:01:56
Speaker 2: Thing. Know, I kind of want to see you with
3:01:57
Speaker 2: a mustache. I do too, No, I want to see, like,
3:02:01
Speaker 2: what's it look like?
3:02:02
Speaker 6: Sha you?
3:02:03
Speaker 2: Ever seen you?
3:02:03
Speaker 1: Look at you?
3:02:04
Speaker 2: Ever seen Joe Dirt? Yeah? Okay, so Joe Dirt. When
3:02:06
Speaker 2: he went on the radio show. The guy sat across
3:02:09
Speaker 2: from him and he said, wait a second, you're telling
3:02:10
Speaker 2: me your facial hair actually grows in on its own,
3:02:13
Speaker 2: all white trash.
3:02:13
Speaker 1: You like that?
3:02:14
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, that's kind of what's happening. It's a
3:02:16
Speaker 2: white trashy look. It's blonde. I think I need not
3:02:19
Speaker 2: great blonde. It's not great, so I just have never
3:02:22
Speaker 2: let it happen.
3:02:23
Speaker 3: I think we need it and.
3:02:23
Speaker 1: Nomber yeah, we need the mustache starting now.
3:02:26
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how important the charity would have
3:02:29
Speaker 2: to be to me for me to participate.
3:02:32
Speaker 3: What's your number?
3:02:34
Speaker 2: I'm gonna write it down for you, okay, yeah, off air,
3:02:38
Speaker 2: and then I'll show that on the locker room this week.
3:02:41
Speaker 2: It's eight figures.
3:02:42
Speaker 1: Oh ship, yeah, never mind, Well, your little blonde mustache
3:02:48
Speaker 1: just from N's CVS. Being made that thing darker.
3:02:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, every every road you're going down hypothetical, I've already
3:02:53
Speaker 2: gone down it fair enough.
3:02:54
Speaker 1: We'll figure out if you figure out the future that
3:02:57
Speaker 1: he puts in on it and if he loses it, yeah,
3:03:00
Speaker 1: look at that and be honest with you. One thing
3:03:01
Speaker 1: with the locker room, We're going to find out. There's
3:03:03
Speaker 1: always these bets and it always involves losing the top
3:03:06
Speaker 1: of your hair or facial hair.
3:03:08
Speaker 2: Yah, what happens.
3:03:09
Speaker 3: And it's always he nails that right for you.
3:03:11
Speaker 2: I'm never done. Me and brock Bowers were good. You
3:03:14
Speaker 2: bet something else for us?
3:03:15
Speaker 3: Bud light question. You know people would do anything for
3:03:18
Speaker 3: a nice cold bud light. What is something that Josh
3:03:20
Speaker 3: Pate would do anything for.
3:03:24
Speaker 2: I would love to be able to go to pre
3:03:29
Speaker 2: technological times and be able to watch like surveillance camera
3:03:35
Speaker 2: footage of stuff before cameras existed. You could watch dinosaurs.
3:03:39
Speaker 2: You could watch like the Declaration of Independence get signed.
3:03:42
Speaker 2: Like you, we live in a world now where anything
3:03:44
Speaker 2: that happened in the last what like seventy five to
3:03:46
Speaker 2: one hundred years, you've got photos of Like I've seen
3:03:50
Speaker 2: the Kennedy assassination. I've seen the moon landing, I think
3:03:53
Speaker 2: I have. I've seen the Challenger explosion, like all the
3:03:57
Speaker 2: big stuff nine to eleven, Like there's footage of that.
3:04:00
Speaker 2: You have to imagine what it looked like when the
3:04:04
Speaker 2: first white settlers came to America, What America looked like
3:04:08
Speaker 2: before that? What did what did it look like? Like
3:04:11
Speaker 2: I said, when dinosaurs roam the earth, you just get
3:04:13
Speaker 2: to watch cartoons of that or you watch like recreations
3:04:16
Speaker 2: of it, but you don't get to actually see what
3:04:18
Speaker 2: it looked like. There could have been a stegosaurus where
3:04:20
Speaker 2: this bus is right now on a Tuesday afternoon. I
3:04:23
Speaker 2: don't think they knew it was Tuesday. But like you're
3:04:25
Speaker 2: watching that stuff in prehistoric times, but you're actually getting
3:04:27
Speaker 2: to see it. If you could deliver that to me,
3:04:30
Speaker 2: I would, That's what I would.
3:04:31
Speaker 1: Do you do anything for?
3:04:33
Speaker 2: That's a great answer, he said, I would, because what
3:04:36
Speaker 2: would you dial up? Like I go to dinosaurs?
3:04:38
Speaker 1: You had me on dinosaurs. I probably want to see
3:04:40
Speaker 1: that media impact. Figure out what really happened there?
3:04:43
Speaker 6: Right?
3:04:43
Speaker 1: Did we decided as the meteor?
3:04:45
Speaker 3: Have we figured that out?
3:04:46
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not one hundred percent on it. I'm not
3:04:48
Speaker 2: one hundred percent on most things. This is how we
3:04:50
Speaker 2: find out and then the bad parties. You come back
3:04:52
Speaker 2: to the future and you try and convince people they
3:04:53
Speaker 2: don't believe you, right, can we get.
3:04:55
Speaker 1: The Last Supper? Like life slong life stream.
3:04:58
Speaker 2: Here's another one too. You kind of had a conspiracy.
3:05:00
Speaker 1: Have you heard the conspiracy of like the Nazis fleeting
3:05:02
Speaker 1: to South America? Yeah, I'd like to see that. Like
3:05:05
Speaker 1: where was Hitler at and his little bunker?
3:05:06
Speaker 3: Did he did?
3:05:07
Speaker 2: Or did you take that pill? So much stuff, I know,
3:05:10
Speaker 2: there's so much stuff about history.
3:05:11
Speaker 1: Pyramids, Yeah, pyramids, that's a good one. Just also, yeah,
3:05:20
Speaker 1: it's a blink stone hinge. Bigot walked the Earth a
3:05:27
Speaker 1: million air hurt? Did you so? I heard they might
3:05:32
Speaker 1: have found her plane in Antarctica?
3:05:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they say that like every two years. Yeah,
3:05:36
Speaker 2: but this is the most this is the real.
3:05:37
Speaker 1: I'm just delivering you a message that I've seen with
3:05:39
Speaker 1: my own eyes on the Instagram. But like they found
3:05:42
Speaker 1: a plane that was like buried into around the same year,
3:05:46
Speaker 1: into a clip side in Antarctica. See.
3:05:49
Speaker 2: I heard some some rumors that some terrible stuff could
3:05:52
Speaker 2: have happened to them. When they crashed.
3:05:54
Speaker 1: Just internet rumor, like talking about lower Yeah, like like
3:05:58
Speaker 1: desserted island they float upon, like.
3:06:00
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe don't die when you land, but maybe some
3:06:04
Speaker 2: people find you, you know that kind of stuff. I
3:06:06
Speaker 2: don't know. I wasn't there, Like I said, I don't
3:06:08
Speaker 2: have the footage, right, but and that's not that long ago.
3:06:11
Speaker 2: It just so happened. We didn't have cameras over the ocean,
3:06:13
Speaker 2: so we didn't see that. But if we go back
3:06:16
Speaker 2: to like thirteen hundred, go up out of the Dark
3:06:19
Speaker 2: Ages something like that in the Roman Empire, you get
3:06:22
Speaker 2: to see the entire Roman Empire. That'd be sick. Yeah.
3:06:25
Speaker 3: So Marcus Aurelia is dropping pods for US Weekly. Yeah yeah,
3:06:33
Speaker 3: what would be.
3:06:33
Speaker 1: What would be the one place you started?
3:06:35
Speaker 2: Dinosaurs? I think I would start at dinosaurs, yeah, and
3:06:38
Speaker 2: then I would just start going famous moments throughout history.
3:06:42
Speaker 2: How do you not how are you not fascinated? I haven't.
3:06:48
Speaker 2: Oh oh this gets me to another thing.
3:06:49
Speaker 3: So big dinosaur.
3:06:51
Speaker 2: I'm a big dinosaur guy. I'm a big storm chasing
3:06:52
Speaker 2: guy too. I would love to go back before meteorological
3:06:56
Speaker 2: records existed, because you know, like severe weather, huge hurricane, huge, droughts,
3:07:00
Speaker 2: huge snowstorms were happening forever as long as the earth
3:07:03
Speaker 2: has been here. So I always think about like Nashville, Tennessee.
3:07:06
Speaker 2: Right if you want to go and check out the
3:07:08
Speaker 2: biggest one day snowfall, you could do that. But the
3:07:10
Speaker 2: records only go back like one hundred years. So who's
3:07:13
Speaker 2: to say in January of fourteen hundred and eighty three
3:07:17
Speaker 2: there wasn't a three foot snowfall where we're sitting right now,
3:07:20
Speaker 2: Or who's to say there wasn't the equivalent of an
3:07:22
Speaker 2: e F five tornado that came through. Who's to say
3:07:24
Speaker 2: there wasn't like the strongest Cat five hurricane in history
3:07:27
Speaker 2: making landfall in Biloxi, Mississippi. That's a little more nerdish.
3:07:31
Speaker 2: Not as many people would be into that, but I'm
3:07:32
Speaker 2: into that.
3:07:33
Speaker 1: I love throughout this podcast, how many random cities and
3:07:36
Speaker 1: states you say, yeah, you got to drop it. It's fun. Yeah,
3:07:38
Speaker 1: it's a fun. It's a nationwide show chasing tornadoes.
3:07:41
Speaker 3: How many have you chased?
3:07:43
Speaker 2: I'm at thirteen, you're at thirteen. I've seen thirteen ten,
3:07:45
Speaker 2: you're fourteenth. Be with the boys. I've already spoken to
3:07:48
Speaker 2: someone about making this happen.
3:07:49
Speaker 1: Really okay, good because I think that would be This
3:07:52
Speaker 1: could be such a cut. Yes, imagine us in Oklahoma.
3:07:58
Speaker 1: There's still mourning the loss of Michigan and week Just.
3:08:04
Speaker 3: How real is the ambition for college football commissioner?
3:08:08
Speaker 2: It's real. I take it tomorrow. I'm equipped, I'm qualified.
3:08:12
Speaker 2: It's probably why I won't get the job. But I
3:08:15
Speaker 2: got really good ideas. I got really good ideas.
3:08:18
Speaker 1: What are three ideas implement right out of the gates.
3:08:22
Speaker 2: First thing is I would so all these people talking
3:08:25
Speaker 2: about private equity, I would try and harness private equity
3:08:28
Speaker 2: to compensate for all the money grabs. Let me give
3:08:31
Speaker 2: you an example. Georgia Tech plays Georgia every year. Georgia
3:08:36
Speaker 2: Tech is moving their home game against Georgia to Mercedes
3:08:39
Speaker 2: been Stadium this year because they can get twelve million
3:08:41
Speaker 2: more dollars out of it. You're taking away a home
3:08:44
Speaker 2: field rivalry moment for the sake of more money, because
3:08:47
Speaker 2: you need it, because you're in a new era. So
3:08:49
Speaker 2: I would love to get private money. And I would
3:08:51
Speaker 2: love to funnel and say, Georgia Tech keep your game
3:08:53
Speaker 2: at home, will subsidize it. I would love to harness
3:08:55
Speaker 2: private money that way. Private equity money that way. Second
3:08:58
Speaker 2: thing I would love to do is basically take control
3:09:02
Speaker 2: of conferences from a media rights perspective, and I would
3:09:05
Speaker 2: love to have a college football media rights deal instead
3:09:08
Speaker 2: of the SEC having their own, the Big Ten having
3:09:09
Speaker 2: their own. I would love look like the NFL broadcast
3:09:12
Speaker 2: rights deal of nineteen sixty one would have to be
3:09:14
Speaker 2: addressed here, but I mean I would be in the
3:09:16
Speaker 2: president's back pocket, so I get this taken care of.
3:09:19
Speaker 2: This is a MAGA podcast, we can talk about that.
3:09:21
Speaker 2: So I would love because first off, what happens right
3:09:25
Speaker 2: now is like Fox has very little incentive to talk
3:09:28
Speaker 2: about the SEC, ESPN has very little incentive to just
3:09:33
Speaker 2: talk about the Big Ten because they're not in business
3:09:36
Speaker 2: with each other a whole lot, which is very stupid
3:09:38
Speaker 2: because in the aggregate the game doesn't scale. Also, the
3:09:41
Speaker 2: playoff contract one network owns it instead of NBCCBS, Fox
3:09:46
Speaker 2: all having a piece of it, which means there's very
3:09:48
Speaker 2: little incentive for them to promote the playoff and promote
3:09:52
Speaker 2: the game moving towards the playoff because they don't have
3:09:54
Speaker 2: a cut of it. So I would do away with that.
3:09:56
Speaker 2: And I would also love to reconfigure things where conferences
3:09:59
Speaker 2: made sense to where Stanford is not playing a conference
3:10:02
Speaker 2: game at Wake Forest just for the sake of someone
3:10:05
Speaker 2: that you and you and me will never meet cash
3:10:07
Speaker 2: in a few more zeros on a paycheck. I would
3:10:10
Speaker 2: love for that to not matter anymore. I would also
3:10:14
Speaker 2: even in a pure dictatorship, like if I'm the commissioner
3:10:16
Speaker 2: and everything I say goes, if I'm a king of
3:10:18
Speaker 2: college football, I would have so many things that are
3:10:21
Speaker 2: popular vote decided. I would take my authority and I
3:10:24
Speaker 2: would say, I'm putting it to the side. We're deciding
3:10:27
Speaker 2: this by popular vote. I would just hold a national vote,
3:10:31
Speaker 2: just pure democracy on some things.
3:10:36
Speaker 3: And the whole promotional thing too. It's like, when was
3:10:39
Speaker 3: it last year? Was it like New Year's? Was it
3:10:43
Speaker 3: New Year's where it just felt like no one even
3:10:45
Speaker 3: knew that? Or was it the National Championship?
3:10:47
Speaker 2: It was both, it was both. I would also love
3:10:51
Speaker 2: to work with the NFL. Look, man, I got the
3:10:56
Speaker 2: NFL benefits a lot from college football from a marketing
3:11:00
Speaker 2: and development perspective. The NFL gets ready made assets handed
3:11:03
Speaker 2: to them on Draft night that have been developed on
3:11:06
Speaker 2: college football's dime. NFL hasn't had to pay a dime
3:11:08
Speaker 2: for the development piece, and they have been marketed on
3:11:11
Speaker 2: college Football's dime to where when you draft Taylor Lawan,
3:11:15
Speaker 2: I know about him because he played at Michigan. I
3:11:17
Speaker 2: know about him because I watched him start at left
3:11:19
Speaker 2: tackle for all these years you drafted, and but I
3:11:20
Speaker 2: already know who he is, So you don't have to
3:11:23
Speaker 2: tell me who he is, and you don't have to
3:11:24
Speaker 2: develop him to the degree that you have to in college.
3:11:27
Speaker 2: The NFL never has to fit the bill for that,
3:11:29
Speaker 2: and yet when it comes time to decide the broadcast schedule,
3:11:31
Speaker 2: that's the one area where I really wish the NFL
3:11:33
Speaker 2: would work with college a little bit to make sure
3:11:36
Speaker 2: like college football's postseason isn't a good spot. And instead
3:11:39
Speaker 2: it feels like you have to fight the NFL on
3:11:42
Speaker 2: every bit of that. So that's probably because people running
3:11:45
Speaker 2: college football have no clue how to work with the NFL.
3:11:48
Speaker 2: I think I do a better job working with the NFL.
3:11:50
Speaker 1: I love it start the playoffs right after a championship week,
3:11:54
Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, I have to. Yeah, I think,
3:11:56
Speaker 1: so keep that, just keep it moving. I think so
3:11:58
Speaker 1: that gap of twenty eight thirty.
3:11:59
Speaker 2: Days needed crazy not needed. Yeah, we got a roll.
3:12:03
Speaker 1: Yeah on the eighteen playoff. No go above twelve.
3:12:09
Speaker 2: I'd leave it, dude, I'd go smaller than twelve, but
3:12:11
Speaker 2: I'm keeping it at twelve. I think they've just just
3:12:13
Speaker 2: poison pilled you. They just put an Overton window kind
3:12:16
Speaker 2: of mechanism out there. It's like if I'm telling you, well,
3:12:18
Speaker 2: we're going to vacation, and you say where we going
3:12:21
Speaker 2: and say we're going to Saint Louis for an entire week.
3:12:22
Speaker 2: You say, why can't we go to the Caribbean, Like
3:12:24
Speaker 2: why can't we go to a beach somewhere? And I say,
3:12:26
Speaker 2: all right, we're going to Russia. You say no, no, no,
3:12:28
Speaker 2: And I said, all right, Saint Louis. Then okay, Well,
3:12:31
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're fine with Saint Louis. The
3:12:32
Speaker 2: Big ten wants the sixteen team playoff. Not many people
3:12:35
Speaker 2: want it, so their marketing and PR folks just said
3:12:38
Speaker 2: they're stupid. Just flow a twenty eighteen proposal out there.
3:12:41
Speaker 2: They'll hate that so much all of a sudden, sixteen
3:12:44
Speaker 2: won't sound so bad. That's all they're doing. That's all
3:12:47
Speaker 2: they're doing, and.
3:12:49
Speaker 1: So that ball illuminati type shit. I don't like the
3:12:52
Speaker 1: bye weeks.
3:12:53
Speaker 2: I actually don't either.
3:12:54
Speaker 1: I don't like the bibus, so I feel like it
3:12:56
Speaker 1: would be sixteen or if you go below twelve eight.
3:12:59
Speaker 2: I don't like haven at larges. If you're gonna have
3:13:02
Speaker 2: the play in Saturday, like the whole conference playing Saturday.
3:13:06
Speaker 2: If you're having those playing games, I love them. I
3:13:08
Speaker 2: don't want a safety net under it. I don't want
3:13:10
Speaker 2: you to be a four seed who loses but knows
3:13:12
Speaker 2: oh I can get in anyway. Like if you're gonna
3:13:13
Speaker 2: have play in games at the conference level, they need
3:13:15
Speaker 2: to really be do or die playing games. So however
3:13:18
Speaker 2: we can figure it, I hope it's configured that way.
3:13:21
Speaker 2: We you, yes, the commissioner with with voters helping.
3:13:24
Speaker 1: You, We'll help you out. We'll be we'll be.
3:13:27
Speaker 2: I didn't say every vote counts the same super vote,
3:13:30
Speaker 2: super delegates.
3:13:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, because we do, we do have this.
3:13:35
Speaker 2: That's right.
3:13:36
Speaker 3: We're part of the supremacy. I don't know if that's
3:13:38
Speaker 3: safe to say at this point.
3:13:39
Speaker 7: It's not.
3:13:39
Speaker 3: You can't just three white guys up here. We are
3:13:41
Speaker 3: part of the supremacy. Josh Pate. It's gonna be a
3:13:45
Speaker 3: hell of a year, a hell of a season. Maybe
3:13:47
Speaker 3: coming on Busting with the Boys. Pleasure the Locker Room
3:13:49
Speaker 3: drops Wednesday night. Subscribe big hugs, tiny kisses, we love you,
3:13:54
Speaker 3: I love you.
3:13:56
Speaker 2: Photo.
3:13:57
Speaker 3: Hell of an episode.
3:14:00
Speaker 2: It's good. How long have we gone?
3:14:01
Speaker 1: Like? Two hours, two