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Evaluating the American League, MLB draft preview and more big-picture topics · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode up Tiger Territory, part of
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Speaker 1: the Foul Territory. Nope, try Tucker's podcast. I'm Karen Steckley
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Speaker 1: with me is always a man who knows precisely when
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Speaker 1: it is time to flip a burker. He is coach
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Speaker 1: staved Hagen. How you doing.
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Speaker 2: There's definitely an art to that. I'm doing good, Karen.
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Speaker 2: A little Memorial Day weekend pot. I know things haven't
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Speaker 2: been great in Tiger's Land, but we're still coming to
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Speaker 2: you guys with some content. We'll even try to talk
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Speaker 2: about some stuff beyond just the games, because I think
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Speaker 2: everyone's getting sick of recapping some of what we've been seeing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're gonna try to do a little bit,
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Speaker 1: you know, a little bit broader topics for this episode.
0:45
Speaker 1: It's a holiday. We wanna we wanna bring some cheer
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Speaker 1: here to uh, to your to your podcast feed. So
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Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody making us a part of your Memorial Day.
0:54
Speaker 1: Happy Memorial Day, everybody. Hope you have a good and
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Speaker 1: safe holiday. So let's kind of dive into one of
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Speaker 1: these topics I have here, Cody, I I think over
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Speaker 1: the weekend, aj Hinch said, like the quiet part out loud,
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Speaker 1: which I like appreciate he did actually a couple of times.
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Speaker 1: And we'll we'll and we'll get to both of them.
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Speaker 1: And and that's the whole like playing time Kevin McGonagall thing,
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Speaker 1: where it's like, yeah, I mean we kind of need him,
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Speaker 1: and you know, things aren't going great right now. This
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Speaker 1: is obviously not what AJ was actually saying, but more
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Speaker 1: or less, and so he's young, he looks good, he's
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Speaker 1: gonna be in the lineup, and and man, that did
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Speaker 1: that make me smile. It's like the kid's twenty one,
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Speaker 1: he's doing well. Kind of need him, Gotta have him
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Speaker 1: out there, figure out a way to lessen the load
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Speaker 1: and other aspects other than you know, sitting him for
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Speaker 1: games in which you obviously are gonna need his bat.
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Speaker 1: So good on AJ for coming out and saying that
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Speaker 1: that's how I want to lean off this good good news,
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Speaker 1: good feels pot.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean I would argue maybe he
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Speaker 2: should have been sticking to this approach the whole time,
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Speaker 2: or gone to this approach sooner, or just play them
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Speaker 2: at shortstop every day and not plays at short a shortstop.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. The more Kevin McGonagall on the field,
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Speaker 2: the better. Again, I've said this like with Riley Green
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Speaker 2: before and Dylan Dingler, like, you don't want to run
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Speaker 2: guys into the ground. You're always at risk of that
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Speaker 2: a little bit. But desperate times call for desperate measures.
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Speaker 2: And if you're desperate measure is oh, we're gonna play
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Speaker 2: Kevin McGonagall every day, then then I think that I
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Speaker 2: think that is pretty obviously the move at this point.
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Speaker 2: And if you somehow miraculously can get your head above water,
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Speaker 2: maybe you go back to trying to find him a
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Speaker 2: day off every now and then. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So, uh so that and that's the thing, Like the
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Speaker 1: best way to talk about the Tigers right now is
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Speaker 1: things are desperate? Is that like a fair like statement?
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Speaker 2: That is beyond fair? That is putting it lightly?
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Speaker 3: So?
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I think, you know, we didn't
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Speaker 1: get a chance to talk about this last time, Cody,
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Speaker 1: because we just kind of got worked up on some
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Speaker 1: other things and like the whole fifty game stat with
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Speaker 1: with twenty nine or more losses we kind of float
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Speaker 1: around earlier this week and and I did kind of
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Speaker 1: want to opine on that for a second because it's
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Speaker 1: kind of similar You'll see this during the NFL season
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Speaker 1: where it's like teams that start oh and to like
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Speaker 1: only have like only this percentage have ever like made
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Speaker 1: the postseason, you know, And that's essentially what the stat was.
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Speaker 1: MLB teams with twenty nine and more losses through fifty games,
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Speaker 1: which the Tigers, much to their credit, exceeded. So so
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Speaker 1: sometimes I do think stats like that are misleading because
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Speaker 1: most of the time it refers to the bulk of
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Speaker 1: that sample data are teams that are bad, and we're
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Speaker 1: expected to be bad, and we're always going to be bad.
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Speaker 1: And certainly as for Australian as this Tiger season has been,
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Speaker 1: they do not fall into that category. And then if
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Speaker 1: you look at the injured list, something that we'll talk
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Speaker 1: about a little bit as well a little later, you
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Speaker 1: look at the injured list, it's like the team you
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Speaker 1: mentioned Zach short earlier, the team that's being tried out
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Speaker 1: there right now is not remotely close to the team
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Speaker 1: that we envisioned being the majority lineup of the Tiger. Now,
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of pieces there. I'm not trying
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Speaker 1: to make a lot, you know, excuses for everybody, but
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Speaker 1: that's just the bottom line. So I wanted to say that.
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Speaker 1: I mean this, if there was an exception to this
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Speaker 1: kind of general rule, it really could be this Tigers team.
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Speaker 1: It's not really like a lot of things that have
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Speaker 1: happened since then that have made me kind of come
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Speaker 1: off that opinion. But I think the opinion still like
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Speaker 1: has some merit there. And then when you look at
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Speaker 1: the standings of the American League, which we're gonna do
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Speaker 1: here in a second, it does kind of lend itself
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Speaker 1: to that. It's like, well, I don't know who you're
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Speaker 1: like really championing out outside a couple of teams the
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Speaker 1: American leagues. I don't know, does that make sense? Like,
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Speaker 1: is that like track?
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Speaker 2: Well, okay, there have been three teams in the thirty
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Speaker 2: year history of the wild Card to make the postseason
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Speaker 2: despite winning twenty or fewer games in the first fifty
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Speaker 2: So that's that's kind of what we're talking about here.
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Speaker 2: The Tigers would become only the fourth, and in the
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Speaker 2: area of the expanded Playoff, the experient expanded wild Card,
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Speaker 2: you could argue that is somewhat more likely than it
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Speaker 2: was for the first twenty five plus years of the
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Speaker 2: existence of the wild Card. Things are pretty grim for
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Speaker 2: the Tigers right now. I'm not trying to sugarcoat this,
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Speaker 2: but as we have talked about before, it's a pretty
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Speaker 2: good year to have a DISASTERUS start. Because the whole
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Speaker 2: American League is so bad. At the athletic I had
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Speaker 2: to do an exercise like revisiting predictions through fifty games
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Speaker 2: through Memorial Day, and so part of that was just
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Speaker 2: like pick who's going to the playoffs, and so, yeah,
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Speaker 2: six teams. So let's start with division winners. In the
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Speaker 2: Central Guardians are up three and a half games. They've
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Speaker 2: been pretty impressive. I'm gonna pick Cleveland to hang on
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Speaker 2: to the division. In the East, man Rays are already
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Speaker 2: up five and a half. I'm gonna I'm gonna go
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Speaker 2: out on a limb. I'm gonna say that the Yankees
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Speaker 2: overtake them. But Rays, I think they're still a playoff team.
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Speaker 2: All right, So we got three the Al West. I
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Speaker 2: don't know, man, the A's are currently leading this division
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Speaker 2: at twenty six and twenty six. I think the Seattle
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Speaker 2: Mariners have greatly underachieved. I think they're a pretty good team.
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Speaker 2: They should have a really good pitching. Hopefully you get
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Speaker 2: cal Raley healthy and playing like the big Dumber. At
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Speaker 2: some point, I think the Mariners get it together win
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Speaker 2: this division, all right. So we got four playoff teams.
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Speaker 2: Now we gotta get two more wild cards. And I'm
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Speaker 2: looking at this man, and I just like the White
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Speaker 2: Sox have had a good first half? Are they for real?
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Speaker 2: I don't think I can get myself there. The Twins
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Speaker 2: come on, They're lucky to be twenty five and twenty seven.
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Speaker 2: I'll go Blue Jays. They're a good team. They've had
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Speaker 2: a rough start, they've been injured, like the Tigers. I
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Speaker 2: think they get it going, all right, Blue Jays. We
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Speaker 2: gotta pick one more playoff team. Royal has been terrible, man.
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Speaker 2: The Orioles have done nothing but underachieved for two years.
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Speaker 2: The Red Sox miraculously are two and a half out
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Speaker 2: of the wild card. I could almost be tucked into that.
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Speaker 2: The Rangers, like man, they can pitch, they can't hit.
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Speaker 2: They haven't hit since they won the World Series three
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Speaker 2: years ago. The Astros are a disaster that the Angels
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Speaker 2: forget about it. So if you wanted to talk yourself
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Speaker 2: into the Tigers getting it together, getting healthy, having a
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Speaker 2: good second half, I don't know. I could almost believe
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Speaker 2: that being the last wild card team as much as
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Speaker 2: I could believe any of these. When I was filling
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Speaker 2: out those predictions, man, I hovered my mouse over the
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Speaker 2: Tigers box. I hovered. I was like, should I, and
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Speaker 2: I just couldn't get there because they've been so bad.
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Speaker 2: They're five and a half out at the time we're
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Speaker 2: recording this. I don't even remember. I think I I
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Speaker 2: either picked the Rangers or the Red Sox. I think
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Speaker 2: I picked the Red Sox. I don't feel great about
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Speaker 2: any of that. But that is the American League right now.
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Speaker 2: It's tough to come up with six playoff teams. So
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Speaker 2: if you want any reason for hope, again, this is
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Speaker 2: how I'm viewing it. Ten of ten concern level. Things
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Speaker 2: are not good. You should be frustrated. You should not
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Speaker 2: enjoy watching this team right now. I'm not trying to
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Speaker 2: paint sunshine and rainbows here, But is it over? Not quite?
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Speaker 2: Not all the way, getting closer with every loss, but
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Speaker 2: not quite.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, that was an iore right there, Cody regarding
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Speaker 1: the standings like it was just not pretty.
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Speaker 2: I mean, someone we said, like, you know, the Tigers
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Speaker 2: would have to play above a six hundred clip from
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Speaker 2: here on out to match last seasons win total. Well,
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Speaker 2: you might not. The Tigers got into the playoffs with
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Speaker 2: the eighty seven wins last year. I wouldn't be shocked
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Speaker 2: if someone gets in with like a five hundred record
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Speaker 2: or eighty three, eighty two, eighty three wins that It
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Speaker 2: seems to be trending that way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I'll tell you what, Cody. Something I am
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Speaker 1: still excited for is to watch Kevin McGonagall play baseball
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Speaker 1: the roster and things that are, you know, ten out
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Speaker 1: of ten concern level, another piece that Aj addressed this
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Speaker 1: weekend was he basically said, like, you know, what what
10:48
Speaker 1: we got is what we got right now. So like
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Speaker 1: everyone kind of clamoring for Max Clark, everyone clamoring for
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Speaker 1: Max Anderson, you gotta probably reset expectations a little bit
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Speaker 1: because and just based on this is what the manager
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Speaker 1: said before Friday's game, We're paying close attention to it,
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Speaker 1: talking about you know everything, It's not as simple as
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Speaker 1: just try something. There are roster ramifications, there are playing
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Speaker 1: time ramifications. I should mention Corey Jokes and then mal
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Speaker 1: Jerry also among guys that you know maybe could do something,
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Speaker 1: they are certainly playing well in Toledo, and AJ pointed out,
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Speaker 1: it's like, well, we did go into Toledo. We pulled
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Speaker 1: a player that was swinging the best in triple A engage,
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Speaker 1: so it's not as if we haven't done anything. So
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Speaker 1: to me, it was like it kind of felt like, okay.
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Speaker 2: But I didn't like that con That comment seemed disingenuous
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Speaker 2: to me. Yes, there are roster ramifications. I can scroll
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Speaker 2: this forty man. I know Ricky Vanasco just came up
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Speaker 2: to replace Brent Herder, but you have literally Dfaid Ricky
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Speaker 2: Vanasco before, you have literally Dfaid Zach Short before. I
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Speaker 2: you got Jason Young on this roster and you don't
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Speaker 2: seem to like him or have any interest in playing
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Speaker 2: him in the major leagues. So at what point do
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Speaker 2: you give up? The Tigers just dfaed Connor Sebold to
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Speaker 2: clear spot for Troy Melton, so they were willing to
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Speaker 2: make that and that was part of it. You had
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Speaker 2: that sixty man move you'll eventually have it. Or you
12:13
Speaker 2: had that forty man move, you'll eventually have another when
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Speaker 2: Verlander comes off the sixty atdil so like that's part
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Speaker 2: of it, right, Eventually these moves get harder. You have
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Speaker 2: a couple more you know you have to make. But
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Speaker 2: I push back on the notion that, like, you can't
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Speaker 2: make a forty man roster move right now. I think
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Speaker 2: you have options available to now again, do you want
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Speaker 2: to lose a player to gamble on? Like is Cory
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Speaker 2: Jokes or Ben Maljerry going to be any good if
12:40
Speaker 2: you get Winsel Perez off this roster. Matt Vierling's pretty
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Speaker 2: much your only center fielder. So like, I get some
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Speaker 2: of it. AJ's right, like it's not as easy as
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Speaker 2: snaping your finger and boom. But I push back on
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Speaker 2: the idea that, oh, you just can't make a forty
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Speaker 2: man move right right now. I think I think that's ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: You've literally already defated some of these guys and brought
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Speaker 2: him back, so like you can't like him that much.
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Speaker 1: No, I don't have a lot of pushback. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think there's we've we've long talked about how precious
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Speaker 1: they keep the forty. Man, it's not that precious now.
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Speaker 1: Uh So I think like and also if you got
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Speaker 1: to do something, you gotta do something. Season slipping away,
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Speaker 1: so like like thank god you held on to Ricky
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Speaker 1: the second time or whatever, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Like it they like there are there are aspects to this.
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Speaker 2: I mean you could even look you you have some
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Speaker 2: guys on this forty who are uh who are on
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Speaker 2: the minor league. IL saw your Gibson long like you
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Speaker 2: could just transfer him to the major league injured list.
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Speaker 2: That's a guy who already you would have to pay
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Speaker 2: him more. He would a cruise service time. But if
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Speaker 2: you wanted a clear spot like that is something you
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Speaker 2: can do, like you have you have options here in
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Speaker 2: my opinion, Well.
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Speaker 1: The man that is the one that has the options
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Speaker 1: is Scott Harris. And I wanted to go to an
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Speaker 1: interesting ussion that was on Tigers Twitter this this this weekend.
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Speaker 1: As I try to pull up the tweet, basically, Mark
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Speaker 1: Ryan on the ticket, Uh, Roger sided Roge Castillo, friend
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Speaker 1: of the podcast cited Mark Ryan on tickets, so both
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Speaker 1: of them kind of you know, that's how I saw
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Speaker 1: this that the Lions got to pass last year for
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Speaker 1: their injuries and got more grace for their injuries more
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Speaker 1: so than the Tigers are currently. Uh So, obviously, like
14:29
Speaker 1: this is your market. You work it, you you consume it,
14:32
Speaker 1: you know you are, You're there every day. Does that
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Speaker 1: first of all, is that accurate statement that the Lions
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Speaker 1: got more of a pass this past year for their
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Speaker 1: injuries than the Tigers are now? And then secondly, what
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Speaker 1: could be a reason why that would be the case?
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Speaker 2: If so, I think I think that's an interesting comparison.
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Speaker 2: There's kind of a lot packed in there, and I
14:54
Speaker 2: ultimately don't fully agree with the Like the spirit of
14:59
Speaker 2: what's being said is that, like people are easier on
15:02
Speaker 2: the Lions. I think during the heat of the NFL
15:06
Speaker 2: season last year, Lions fans were not too pleased. You
15:10
Speaker 2: are talking about a different sport. You still got twenty
15:13
Speaker 2: two men on the football field, but it's a little tougher.
15:17
Speaker 2: You know, you lose both safeties, your past defense takes
15:20
Speaker 2: a big hit. You lose two hitters in your lineup.
15:23
Speaker 2: It's baseball. There's one hundred and sixty two games. Teams
15:27
Speaker 2: generally figure out ways to whether that you build in
15:29
Speaker 2: more depth as a result of that. In baseball, you
15:32
Speaker 2: have a minor league system, like, there's a kind of
15:35
Speaker 2: more that goes into it. You construct your roster differently,
15:39
Speaker 2: and then I think what it ultimately comes down to
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Speaker 2: is I've been thinking about this more. The Lions. Although
15:43
Speaker 2: they didn't have a great season, it's not like they
15:48
Speaker 2: went two and fifteen, and the Tigers literally have had
15:51
Speaker 2: a two and fifteen stretch in the majors, and you know,
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Speaker 2: even when they were healthy, we're not playing up to
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Speaker 2: their capabilities. So the Lions played mediocre football and the
16:03
Speaker 2: Tigers have played straight up piss poor baseball. I think
16:06
Speaker 2: that's the difference, and that's why I think Tigers are
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Speaker 2: not getting any grace here. If they were playing slightly
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Speaker 2: above five hundred, it'd be like, Okay, this isn't great,
16:14
Speaker 2: but they're gonna get healthy, blah blah blah. It'd be
16:17
Speaker 2: easier to excuse some of this versus even the guys
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Speaker 2: who are healthy just aren't playing well at all.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple elements there that I think are
16:28
Speaker 1: really true. The main thing is that baseball roster construction
16:35
Speaker 1: is a longer process than NFL roster construction. The NFL,
16:41
Speaker 1: you turn over I mean you know, the average career
16:43
Speaker 1: is like what two point eight years in the NFL,
16:45
Speaker 1: So you're just like constantly churning guys, especially at the
16:50
Speaker 1: back end. So, like to use a safety example, you
16:52
Speaker 1: have Kirby and Branch go out. You know, the guy
16:55
Speaker 1: who's coming up in this case, it was Harper, Like
16:58
Speaker 1: it's not like a Lion's fans have been like reading
17:01
Speaker 1: about him and anticipating his debut for like three or
17:04
Speaker 1: four years, like like a Max Clark would be, like
17:06
Speaker 1: a Max Anderson would be like obviously McGonagall this year.
17:10
Speaker 1: You know, like you haven't. They're not in your life
17:12
Speaker 1: as long, and a lot of them they're hardly in
17:14
Speaker 1: your life at all. It could be weak. The NFL
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Speaker 1: is a week to week league in a lot of cases,
17:18
Speaker 1: you know, uh so, so like if you were to
17:23
Speaker 1: say that the Tigers are poorly constructed right now roster wise,
17:29
Speaker 1: you're not talking about moves that Scott Harris did just
17:33
Speaker 1: in the last you know, six months. You're talking about
17:36
Speaker 1: moves that have been over the over a course of
17:39
Speaker 1: years that you know have either worked or not worked.
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Speaker 1: And so like if Hyu Lee comes up and he
17:47
Speaker 1: can't pull a ball, that's like a reflection of of
17:49
Speaker 1: of your evaluation, of your like of your development.
17:54
Speaker 2: You pulled the ball from an RBI double. It was
17:57
Speaker 2: like a seventy nine mile an hour sweeper up and end.
17:59
Speaker 2: Then he pressure to him and it.
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Speaker 1: Was nice to see finally, But like, but like when
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Speaker 1: guys finally get up to the major leagues and they
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Speaker 1: can't perform, it reflects on more broader bases than you know,
18:12
Speaker 1: the four string practice squad safety that to be honest,
18:15
Speaker 1: none of y'all have ever even heard of, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, So like whereas you've been reading about
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Speaker 1: these guys in the system for years, So I think
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Speaker 1: that would be the main difference. Uh. And of course,
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Speaker 1: like you know, to the credit of baseball, like there
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Speaker 1: is more to it. So there is a larger margin
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Speaker 1: of error, you know, from you know, from all the
18:34
Speaker 1: levels of development, from the big ass draft that you
18:37
Speaker 1: have and and even trades and you gotta you know,
18:40
Speaker 1: they're like, it's it's a lot not to say football
18:42
Speaker 1: is easier or whatever. I want any football guy to
18:44
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you have no idea how hard to
18:45
Speaker 1: be a proout? Oh so I'm not trying to start
18:48
Speaker 1: any feuds here, but the Tiger. But the Tigers prospects
18:52
Speaker 1: are in your life for a lot longer, and then
18:54
Speaker 1: if they come up and they are eh like it,
18:58
Speaker 1: it reflects there's more opportunity to reflect poorly because you
19:03
Speaker 1: had expectations for guys, whereas you know, there's sporting not
19:05
Speaker 1: so much. So, uh, that'd be that, That would be
19:08
Speaker 1: my case on that. So I thought that was interesting.
19:10
Speaker 1: So good on Mark, Good on rog for bringing up
19:14
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19:22
Speaker 1: Now we have another Daily Dinger pick here, Cody, and
19:26
Speaker 1: we're just gonna do Riley Green. It's the most fun.
19:28
Speaker 1: It's one of the more things that make you smile
19:31
Speaker 1: about the Tigers right now. And and and look like
19:34
Speaker 1: Riley Green's having in many ways a career year, and
19:39
Speaker 1: you know, following up what he did last year, seems
19:41
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be an all star, you know, maybe
19:43
Speaker 1: a starter again. Obviously we'll have more time to determine that.
19:46
Speaker 1: But the home run total is low, right, and it
19:51
Speaker 1: got to it got me thinking a little bit. It's
19:53
Speaker 1: kind of weird to say this with like Riley Green,
19:55
Speaker 1: with everything else going so well, but it's like, is
19:58
Speaker 1: there a point where, like the home run total is
20:02
Speaker 1: like almost alarmingly low given how well he's hitting the ball,
20:06
Speaker 1: and he hit thirty seven of these things last year,
20:09
Speaker 1: Like it is there a point? Are we at that point?
20:12
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just kind of a fun it's
20:14
Speaker 1: a funny little thing about Riley this year.
20:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's an interesting talking point given where
20:19
Speaker 2: we're at with the Tigers right now. I just don't
20:22
Speaker 2: think I can even bring myself to to like have
20:25
Speaker 2: this discussion to be worried about Riley and his power. Obviously,
20:29
Speaker 2: you would like to see him hit thirty plus homers
20:32
Speaker 2: again this year. It doesn't necessarily have to be thirty six, though.
20:34
Speaker 2: If he gets twenty five to thirty homers and continues
20:37
Speaker 2: to hit, you know, for a high average and lead
20:40
Speaker 2: the league in one base percentage, you will take that
20:43
Speaker 2: and it will more than make up for any loss
20:45
Speaker 2: of power. So I'm just not there yet. I also
20:48
Speaker 2: want to believe that the ball is going to start
20:50
Speaker 2: flying out of the park as we get into a
20:52
Speaker 2: little better weather and all that typical stuff. Now, I
20:56
Speaker 2: did mention a while ago Riley's played in every game,
20:58
Speaker 2: like I you know, he had a great first half
21:01
Speaker 2: last year, nine hundred plus ops in early July, and
21:04
Speaker 2: then fell off a cliff. Like I'm a little worried
21:06
Speaker 2: about that happening again. I'm not saying it's going to
21:09
Speaker 2: but just like I don't want him to get fatigued
21:11
Speaker 2: at this rate. You don't want him to start chasing power.
21:14
Speaker 2: Would that, you know, be what gets them to come
21:16
Speaker 2: out of what's been such a good played to approach such
21:18
Speaker 2: good discipline. So if this were a different world and
21:23
Speaker 2: the team were winning a lot of games, like, maybe
21:25
Speaker 2: we could start nitpicking this stuff. But right now, the
21:28
Speaker 2: Tigers just need Riley Togreen to continue to hit at
21:31
Speaker 2: an all star clip or even better, which he has
21:34
Speaker 2: done so far, and hope that the home run total
21:37
Speaker 2: will take care of itself at the end of the year.
21:40
Speaker 1: How is he now compared to last year when when
21:45
Speaker 1: you know, the home run total was up, but the
21:47
Speaker 1: strikeouts were also way up, And like now like the
21:50
Speaker 1: home ren total is way down, but everything else is
21:52
Speaker 1: so good. Like how is how is Riley? Like does
21:57
Speaker 1: he like I almost say he don't care? But like,
21:59
Speaker 1: is that something that gets tough? All that's like even
22:01
Speaker 1: around the clubhouse?
22:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, it hasn't come up a ton a ton. I've
22:05
Speaker 2: always said, like one of the beauties of Riley Green
22:07
Speaker 2: is he's pretty much the same. I mean, he cares
22:10
Speaker 2: a lot, like he doesn't like going through slumps. We've
22:13
Speaker 2: seen him change his walk up song and slumps. He's
22:15
Speaker 2: not doing sierras one two step, which is a change
22:18
Speaker 2: of pace for him. Like you know, he can be
22:21
Speaker 2: a little superstitious. So it's not so he doesn't care.
22:24
Speaker 2: But I would say, really, through good and bad, I've
22:27
Speaker 2: observed a pretty steady personality, at least outwardly from Riley Green,
22:32
Speaker 2: and so I don't think the home runs are affecting
22:35
Speaker 2: or are affecting his demeanor. I don't think the success
22:37
Speaker 2: is affecting his demeanor. Like, this guy's a ballplayer, he's
22:42
Speaker 2: he's a pro. There were even times I've you know,
22:45
Speaker 2: been kind of critical, like hey, I'd like to hear
22:46
Speaker 2: him say something a little different, see a little fire,
22:50
Speaker 2: or have him explain what changes he was gonna make
22:52
Speaker 2: in spring training. Well he didn't have to do that.
22:55
Speaker 2: He's let his bat do the talking, and you know what,
22:58
Speaker 2: I think that's just fine.
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24:02
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, speaking of front office, Uh, we're like six
24:09
Speaker 1: ish weeks, Cody from the draft. My is my calendar
24:12
Speaker 1: way off? There? Sounds about right. We'll just say six weeks.
24:18
Speaker 2: Eight weeks May is almost sober Man time flies, Yeah, so.
24:25
Speaker 1: It's about time to to kind of go into a
24:28
Speaker 1: little bit of draft talk. We'll have seven weeks out,
24:32
Speaker 1: seven weeks out, okay, Uh, it's it's It is a
24:39
Speaker 1: fun exercise. We're not like experts on these college guys.
24:41
Speaker 1: And certainly once you get deeper into drafts, it's like,
24:44
Speaker 1: you know, there's only so much one man can do. Uh,
24:47
Speaker 1: but it is kind of fun to think about the
24:49
Speaker 1: type of prospect that you anticipate. The Tigers like targeting.
24:54
Speaker 1: And if last year was any indication, man, do they
24:59
Speaker 1: not talk about, you know, bring up the Brad Holmes
25:02
Speaker 1: thing one more time? They like to stick to their board,
25:05
Speaker 1: Scott Harris in company. They like to stick to their
25:07
Speaker 1: board when it comes to the draft. And Jordan Yost
25:10
Speaker 1: was a pick that I don't really think a lot
25:12
Speaker 1: of people had had on their bingo cards last year.
25:16
Speaker 1: So is it safe to say, Cody, because I did
25:19
Speaker 1: kind of go into this exercise with this in mind.
25:22
Speaker 1: So if you tell me I'm wrong, then everything I'm
25:23
Speaker 1: about to say is gonna be wrong. Is it safe
25:25
Speaker 1: to say we have a general idea of the type
25:27
Speaker 1: of type of do that the Tigers like to target
25:30
Speaker 1: in these drafts, especially at the top.
25:33
Speaker 2: Do you think they like left handed batters at all?
25:36
Speaker 1: Seen it a couple.
25:37
Speaker 2: I think they like left handed batters generally, you know,
25:40
Speaker 2: the old scouting thing, middle of the diamond athletes, probably
25:43
Speaker 2: middle infielders, some catchers, maybe even a center fielder who
25:47
Speaker 2: if they have to, can move to a corner later. Yeah,
25:50
Speaker 2: they love that, and they kind of love something about
25:53
Speaker 2: under the radar guys, which is why it's hard to
25:56
Speaker 2: even do a draft preview. Jordan Yost. No one at
26:00
Speaker 2: him going to the Tigers in the first round last year,
26:02
Speaker 2: so anything we say is probably just going to be wrong. Yeah,
26:07
Speaker 2: that's that. I think that's their type right there.
26:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, obviously the up the middle thing,
26:14
Speaker 1: the left handed thing. The I think there's an athleticism
26:18
Speaker 1: element to it as well. Sometimes that coincides directly with
26:23
Speaker 1: the up the middle athlete, but not always. You know,
26:26
Speaker 1: so because you got guys who play shortstop in high
26:28
Speaker 1: school that you know, it's like as soon as they
26:30
Speaker 1: turn pro or even go to college's like, yeah, you're
26:32
Speaker 1: not gonna be there anymore. So I'll just throw out
26:36
Speaker 1: a couple of names and then I'll kind of go
26:38
Speaker 1: into just like not my scout, but just like what
26:41
Speaker 1: is kind of said about the guy and the first
26:43
Speaker 1: one I wanted to point out, And maybe I'm gonna
26:46
Speaker 1: say these guys' names wrong. Connor Camu com E a U.
26:51
Speaker 1: He is a shortstop although third basement maybe long term
26:57
Speaker 1: Bat's lefty six foot four, Cody Win eighty. You like
27:00
Speaker 1: you like tall rangy and see if they can building like.
27:03
Speaker 2: That, and they're they're gonna say that they think he
27:05
Speaker 2: can play shortstop, and they're going to say that until
27:08
Speaker 2: the last possible minute.
27:11
Speaker 1: And it seems like he's like he's in the fifty
27:13
Speaker 1: five grade for a lot of a lot of the trades,
27:16
Speaker 1: the lowest one be running at forty. So if that
27:19
Speaker 1: makes you think he's not going to be uh you know,
27:21
Speaker 1: the foot speed that's not there for shortstop maybe. But
27:24
Speaker 1: he is a member of USA Prime, which the Tigers
27:28
Speaker 1: have a relationship with.
27:30
Speaker 3: Uh.
27:30
Speaker 1: So, like if they like him, you if they if
27:33
Speaker 1: they pick him, I will say, it means they really
27:35
Speaker 1: like him because they, in theory should have some some
27:38
Speaker 1: institutional knowledge regarding his his makeup and you know, all
27:43
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff like that. He is committed to Texas
27:46
Speaker 1: A and M so Connor Camu is one. I don't
27:50
Speaker 1: know if he really fits the Tigers. Cody and by Way.
27:53
Speaker 1: Connor's sixty eight on MLB pipeline. So I'll give these
27:55
Speaker 1: numbers just so kind of people have them. The Tigers
27:58
Speaker 1: picked just to recap this twenty two, sixty one and
28:01
Speaker 1: sixty nine.
28:04
Speaker 2: So prep hitters. They seem to prefer prep over college.
28:07
Speaker 2: Has that just been coincidence? I don't know. I think
28:12
Speaker 2: I think they like high school hitters.
28:15
Speaker 1: One that's kind of interesting is Aiden Ruiz. He's a
28:19
Speaker 1: New York guy. Obviously they dipped into the New York
28:22
Speaker 1: pool last year at the top seventy grade glove. Cody
28:28
Speaker 1: seventy grade glove, thirty eight prospect on MLB pipeline. Runs Well,
28:35
Speaker 1: they just don't really know about the bat. He's a classic.
28:38
Speaker 1: Don't really know about the bat, but he is a
28:40
Speaker 1: switch hitter. He's tiny, though, five ten one sixty eight,
28:43
Speaker 1: so you kind of figure out. You gotta figure out
28:45
Speaker 1: what is his frame eventually gonna be. But it seems
28:48
Speaker 1: like as soon as he gets into whatever system he
28:51
Speaker 1: gets into, he'll be immediately hyped up as the best
28:54
Speaker 1: glove in the system. Nobody has any doubts about his glove.
28:58
Speaker 1: People talk about it's all it will be gold Glove caliber,
29:02
Speaker 1: not like it could be. It will be gold Glove
29:04
Speaker 1: pick caliber. It just depends on whether he can get
29:07
Speaker 1: the hit tool, get the hit tool to kind of
29:10
Speaker 1: catch up to that a little bit, So that would
29:12
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a change.
29:13
Speaker 2: But I think you better know about the bat for
29:17
Speaker 2: your first round pick. That's just my philosophy. I mean,
29:20
Speaker 2: you can even look at Drew Jones, who was a
29:23
Speaker 2: number two overall pick, who's still being hyped, is like
29:26
Speaker 2: he could win a Gold Glove, and he's barely in
29:28
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks top thirty anymore because he's just been such
29:31
Speaker 2: an atrocious hitter. He struck out a ton in the
29:33
Speaker 2: minor leagues. I don't know the full profile in Ruiz,
29:36
Speaker 2: but I don't care what the glove is. You gotta
29:39
Speaker 2: have some confidence in the bat early in the draft.
29:43
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough. MLB dot Com had a mock
29:47
Speaker 1: draft recently and they had this guy, Trevor Condon, a
29:50
Speaker 1: high school outfielder from Georgia, five to eleven on seventy
29:54
Speaker 1: eight throws right, bat's left if it's all the profile,
30:00
Speaker 1: great speed though, that's uh, that could be fun.
30:03
Speaker 2: This guy's got a little Max Clark and Kevin McGonagall
30:06
Speaker 2: and him a little shorter short levers known for like
30:09
Speaker 2: bat to ball ability, and he can move. If I
30:14
Speaker 2: had to pick, if I had to just circle someone
30:16
Speaker 2: right now, this is the guy I like. Will he
30:18
Speaker 2: even get to the Tigers or the Tigers going to
30:21
Speaker 2: be too smart to draft someone that a mock draft
30:24
Speaker 2: had them taking. I don't know, but yeah, I like
30:27
Speaker 2: some Condon. He seems like just their type to me.
30:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we'll wrap up a couple of names here.
30:35
Speaker 1: Tyler Spangler, he's a California shortstop committed to Stanford. Another
30:39
Speaker 1: big guy. Six feels like, you know, it's one of
30:47
Speaker 1: those could stick at short stop, could not, but again
30:50
Speaker 1: six feels like a good athlete, profile, solid all across
30:54
Speaker 1: the board, with room to improve. And uh and he's
30:58
Speaker 1: like I said, he's going to Stanford. And we're talking
31:03
Speaker 1: about Corey Seeger comparison. So if you like the Bryce
31:06
Speaker 1: Reyner pick tall, left handed, you know, power potential shortstops,
31:11
Speaker 1: this is the guy in the class.
31:14
Speaker 2: Corey Seeger comparisons. Just any shortstop that's tall. People are like, oh,
31:18
Speaker 2: he could be the next Cory Seeker. And look as
31:21
Speaker 2: Corey Seeger was like an elite, elite prospect and a
31:24
Speaker 2: really good big League or one of the best peer
31:26
Speaker 2: hitters in the majors. Not everyone's Corey Seeker.
31:30
Speaker 1: That is fair. And then and then archer Horn is
31:33
Speaker 1: another one from California, also committed to Stanford. So if
31:37
Speaker 1: these guys, so Staber could lose out on two potentially
31:40
Speaker 1: ballue chip shortstop prospects.
31:42
Speaker 2: Here, would aj Hinch do that to his on the mator?
31:46
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good point. That's a good point. One
31:48
Speaker 1: of the things I like about about reading up on
31:51
Speaker 1: Horn is that he also played basketball. He was the
31:55
Speaker 1: team starting point guard, so there's an so there's an
31:58
Speaker 1: athleticism piece that I think is appealing. And his arm
32:03
Speaker 1: they grade sixty gread ninety five across the diamond, I
32:07
Speaker 1: believe is what I read. So also left handed six
32:10
Speaker 1: two to two a five, probably a little bit more
32:12
Speaker 1: finished product physically than some of these other guys. Away
32:16
Speaker 1: two hundred pounds. You're either going to you're either going
32:18
Speaker 1: to grow yourself out of shortstop or you're that's kind
32:21
Speaker 1: of what your body is so that's another name. So
32:24
Speaker 1: two guys commit the Stanford, could aj snatch one of them?
32:28
Speaker 2: Yeah? My only other thought here with the Tigers. Look,
32:31
Speaker 2: you got to restock your form with everything, But what
32:33
Speaker 2: they're Tigers really need right now is pitching. Now, I'm
32:37
Speaker 2: sure if we were to talk to Rob Metzler or
32:40
Speaker 2: Mark Connor or someone, they would just say, oh, we
32:42
Speaker 2: draft the best player available and we don't worry about need.
32:46
Speaker 2: There's a pretty pretty strong case for just taking a
32:48
Speaker 2: college pitcher who you like and you think could get
32:51
Speaker 2: to the majors within a year or two. I mean,
32:54
Speaker 2: a lot of baseball teams don't do that, but given
32:56
Speaker 2: the state of the Tigers farm right now, it could
32:59
Speaker 2: be a little bit of a fill soft gole test.
33:00
Speaker 2: Are they just strictly against drafting a pitcher in the
33:04
Speaker 2: first round. They haven't done it under Scott Harris. But
33:07
Speaker 2: if the need is there, and if they could find
33:09
Speaker 2: a guy they like, I wouldn't hate the idea of
33:11
Speaker 2: just drafting like a college pitcher who could move quickly. Obviously,
33:16
Speaker 2: you don't want to do that if there's a more
33:18
Speaker 2: talented hitter who's going to have a good career on
33:21
Speaker 2: the board, but everyone just says they draft best player available.
33:25
Speaker 2: I think you have to take need at least somewhat
33:28
Speaker 2: into consideration, as long as you trust your evaluation and
33:33
Speaker 2: you don't think you're passing on like a once in
33:35
Speaker 2: a lifetime prospect just so you can get a pitcher
33:38
Speaker 2: or something like that. But I wouldn't be shocked if
33:40
Speaker 2: this is a more pitching heavy draft. I'll just be curious.
33:43
Speaker 2: How early will they take a picture?
33:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, upside Upside is the name of the game, it
33:50
Speaker 1: feels like for the Tigers, So I think that.
33:53
Speaker 2: So you're saying they're not taking to a college pitcher,
33:55
Speaker 2: maybe a prep pitcher who throws a billion but doesn't
33:58
Speaker 2: know where it's going. Maybe maybe they do that. They
34:00
Speaker 2: haven't really drafted many prep pictures, though they do tend
34:03
Speaker 2: to like college pictures. Just they wait until a little
34:06
Speaker 2: bit later to start making moves there. Yes, they took
34:10
Speaker 2: Owen Hall a few years years ago. He was a
34:13
Speaker 2: high school pitcher who's been hurt, So.
34:17
Speaker 1: It goes sometimes. All right, let's wrap up here, Cody.
34:21
Speaker 1: I think it's time. I think we need to I
34:26
Speaker 1: think we need to figure out ways that maybe the
34:28
Speaker 1: Tigers could get out of this slump, and one of
34:30
Speaker 1: them might be bringing back a home run Selly. So
34:33
Speaker 1: to recap those I don't remember, the home run Selly's
34:36
Speaker 1: have been the Red Wings hockey helmet and you know,
34:39
Speaker 1: hit the paper cup with the with the hockey stick,
34:42
Speaker 1: and then the little Caesars pizza pizza, you know, spear
34:46
Speaker 1: things they have one last year. My theory at the
34:48
Speaker 1: time was Torque came up with the idea and then
34:51
Speaker 1: he went to a slump in twenty four, so nobody
34:53
Speaker 1: wanted to be the one to come up with the idea,
34:54
Speaker 1: so no one did come up with the idea. And
34:58
Speaker 1: I think now someone needs to come up to the idea,
35:00
Speaker 1: break the break the Tigers out of out of the slump.
35:02
Speaker 1: So I have a couple of ideas. I have a
35:05
Speaker 1: couple of ideas here, Cody, and one of them and
35:08
Speaker 1: some of them are simple, they're all silly. One of
35:11
Speaker 1: them is, let's see what one would do first, how
35:16
Speaker 1: about boxing gloves. Well, you know, put on some oversized
35:19
Speaker 1: kind of comical boxing gloves, you know, and you go
35:22
Speaker 1: through go through the line of your teammates and you
35:24
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, strike the pose there at the end.
35:26
Speaker 1: Joe Lewis style, and and that's and that's your kind
35:29
Speaker 1: of thing. You could probably do a robe too, if
35:31
Speaker 1: you really wanted to, to kind of make the whole
35:33
Speaker 1: thing look a little bit, uh, look a little bit
35:36
Speaker 1: more special. But that seems easy. Also some connections to
35:39
Speaker 1: the city. So I like that little belt.
35:42
Speaker 2: That's very Detroit. I actually think that's a great, perfect idea.
35:47
Speaker 2: They should do it. Maybe it would motivate them tigers
35:49
Speaker 2: ring twenty third in home runs right now, you know,
35:51
Speaker 2: maybe you'd make it cool, strike a little post through
35:53
Speaker 2: a little jab, motivate the boys to with their with
35:58
Speaker 2: their double ground and pound donkey Kong looking thing. Yeah, yeah,
36:02
Speaker 2: why not. I'm all for it. I like that idea.
36:06
Speaker 1: What about uh, what about like you get like you
36:10
Speaker 1: gotta get a fake one, obviously for safety reasons, but
36:13
Speaker 1: what about a rake, like a fake rake that doesn't
36:15
Speaker 1: have any pointy ends or anything like that, and you
36:17
Speaker 1: just like run around with a rake. It's like, yeah,
36:19
Speaker 1: you know.
36:20
Speaker 2: We ring like a plastic leaf rake. You know, it'd
36:23
Speaker 2: be fine'd be all right, be alright? Not that not
36:26
Speaker 2: really all that much fun. But I've heard worse ideas.
36:31
Speaker 1: You know, there's also some comical stuff. You could do, like,
36:34
Speaker 1: you know, some sort of the copy of the Red
36:36
Speaker 1: Sox like pause thing where you put like pauses, put
36:39
Speaker 1: some pause pause on, you know, go through the line
36:42
Speaker 1: or whatever. You could do some some tiger thing. Uh,
36:45
Speaker 1: there's that. People still watch dragon ball Z. I don't know,
36:48
Speaker 1: but there's probably dragon.
36:49
Speaker 2: Balls come back with the kids, I believe.
36:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe there's like a dragon ball Z. I
36:54
Speaker 1: don't know anything about dragon ball Z.
36:56
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, I watched dragon growing up. I
37:01
Speaker 2: liked it.
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Speaker 1: Some guy named Goku and some other green ball dude.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: What if you did, like something that you could incorporate
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Speaker 1: like the Spirit of Detroit, you know, a little pose
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Speaker 1: at the end, you know, like you'll, you know, get
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Speaker 1: some trinkets and kind of do that. I think that
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Speaker 1: could be pretty cool. Maybe you could you haul a
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Speaker 1: tire through through the line, you know, and just kind
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Speaker 1: of spike it down at the end there. That would
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Speaker 1: be fine. It have to be really lightweight. Don't want
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Speaker 1: guys getting hurt, like putting tires on their shoulders or whatever.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I think that could be worked out.
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Speaker 1: And then obviously there's simple driving stuff, steering wheel, even
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Speaker 1: maybe like a F one helmet or something, you know,
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Speaker 1: put on, go go through there. You could stylize that
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Speaker 1: and whatever way you wanted. So those are just some
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Speaker 1: ideas I think. I think like something like that ought
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Speaker 1: to be a good way to shake things up. You know,
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Speaker 1: we talked about the shaking things up last episode. This
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Speaker 1: could shake things up. So those are those are my
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Speaker 1: submissions for for home run celebration ideas. I was up
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Speaker 1: up early thinking about these, so I hope you guys
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Speaker 1: appreciate them.
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Speaker 2: I like it. I'm all. I'm all for the boxing idea.
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Speaker 2: You could even set up one of the little boxing
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Speaker 2: dummies and take a few punches at the thing. I
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Speaker 2: think the guys would like that.
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Speaker 1: Or you could like, you know, ring the bell at
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Speaker 1: the end too.
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Speaker 2: Like now, there's a lot of potential here. This is fun,
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Speaker 2: it's it is Detroit. I don't think it's it's certainly
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Speaker 2: not commercialized like the little Caesars thing was. So I'm
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Speaker 2: all about this.
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Speaker 1: Well. Look, and also I did think about that if
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Speaker 1: you want something that's owned by you know, the illage,
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Speaker 1: you know, Holdings Corporation or whatever, you could get oversized
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Speaker 1: dies and you know, throw them at the end and
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Speaker 1: then or like you know, have a jack and an
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Speaker 1: ace and you know blackjack or whatever. You know, oversized cars,
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Speaker 1: you know, put them at the end, you do something
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Speaker 1: with that. So, so if you want.
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Speaker 2: To do something, I was going to say major League
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Speaker 2: Baseball probably wouldn't like that. But then we have gambling
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Speaker 2: ads all over the ballpark. This segment is brought to
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Speaker 2: you by FanDuel. Yeah. There, I guess anything like why
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Speaker 2: at this point? Right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? So, so I did think about the whole does
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Speaker 1: it have to be you know, you know, company owned
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Speaker 1: or whatever? So I thought about that element too. All
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Speaker 1: right on that note, Cody, is there anything else that
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Speaker 1: we got to get into before we go out of here?
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Speaker 2: I think that's good for now. We'll be back. We'll
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Speaker 2: be back. We can just keep talking about random stuff
39:19
Speaker 2: or maybe we'll have something positive to talk about in
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Speaker 2: a few episodes.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: We'll see got to see Troy Melton. You know, that
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Speaker 2: was good. I hope that warmed everyone's hard just to
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Speaker 2: just to see him. And uh, yeah, well we'll see
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Speaker 2: what the rest of this summer holds.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I will say this, We'll do a mail
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