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Did The Bride Ruin Frankenstein? · Brainwaves

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Two Shot
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  Tuesday. If you can see us, which I
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  assume that you can, you'll recognize the gentleman.
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  I guess that's on your far right.
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  That's Rob Peetz, our movie guy, truly our live event guy and
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  he's back this week to discuss with Jason and IA movie called
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  The Bride. Jason, great to see you.
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  And Rob, welcome back. I my hat to the I'm, I'm doing,
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  I'm doing OK. I'm doing OK.
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  We saw a movie on the weekend. It was called The Bride and
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  we're going to talk about it. We're going to talk the F out of
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  it. As usual, I did not see it, so I
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  will ask many questions so that I can leave here thinking I have
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  seen it and the way we like to start these things off, Rob,
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  just to familiarize you with the format, we do two shots during
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  the show so it. Can be two.
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  Shots of anything or nothing, but yeah, it's your choice.
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  That's how flexible it is. Barry, why don't you kick us
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  off? What is your first shot of this
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  healthy episode for you? Yeah, this is a sober one.
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  It's some of that pre workout, the ground up clitoris of
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  Godzilla and it tastes like fresh boysenberry.
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  So I'm very excited about that. Rob, what have you got?
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  Probably something similar. Very similar if I know you.
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  Strawberry bubbly basically where I'm at.
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  Yeah, good. Thanks and I'm in support.
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  I am drinking water with a lemon squeezy in a little travel
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  bottle for some reason in case I want to go for a little walk
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  around while you're talking about the show.
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  Well, that's your post workout, right?
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  I mean you, you've already had it.
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  I. Did a workout, You're right.
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  So it's post workout with the lemon.
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  Squeezy or not, lemon. Cheers, Chin.
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  Chin. All right, gentlemen, let's give
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  a bride. Let's.
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  I'm just going to turn you guys loose who would like to start
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  off. Talking about this cinematic
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  feast, I was very excited about this movie, and Rob knows I was
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  very excited. This was a Rob pick though, but
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  I was very excited. The trailer left me hopeful.
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  I thought we were going to see something brand new.
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  We saw something new, all right, but it was not anything all that
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  interesting. Rob, why don't you take it from
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  here? Well, it's it's kind of a what
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  if kind of situation. It, it, it's about Frankenstein
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  and what if Frankenstein was still alive 100 years after he
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  was born? And he's kind of just out there
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  doing his thing because he's, he's able to be and he is
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  really, really needing a partner of some kind.
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  The, you know, the, the, the original bride of Frankenstein
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  never happened in this case. So he is now out there in 1930s
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  Chicagoland looking for a bride. And he comes, he knows a doctor,
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  he's been reading, he's a smart guy to some degree, he's a
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  little smart. So he's been reading this, this
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  particular doctor, her books on on this stuff.
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  And he thinks she can probably do this for him.
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  So she comes to him or he comes to her and and asks if if she
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  can help him get a bride basically, basically like the
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  original movie to some degree. So a bunch of like coincidences
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  and circumstances allow that to happen very quickly, which is
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  kind of part of why this movie is a bit weird and a little bit
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  understated and, and how it's been put together.
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  But it just kind of happens. And we get this this bride
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  character that comes in and she's quite chaotic and fun to
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  watch. And the two of them are really
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  fun together for the most part. But the movie has about 5
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  different plot lines going at the same time, which really
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  makes it kind of a little bit too much Barry and I.
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  I think what I wanted was gangster version of a, a, a
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  version of Frankenstein that lives in gangsterville in the
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  30s in Chicago, gets a bride. And then they go on sort of a
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  Bonnie and Clyde style thing where they rob banks, they do
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  stuff and they're always being chased 'cause that's what the
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  monsters are anyway, They're always being chased.
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  So that was kind of a theme in this movie, but it didn't really
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  do that. It was a bunch of other things.
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  There was like sort of a, a, a detective story.
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  There was like a what else was? There was like a dog.
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  The story of the Doctor Who helped raise her from the dead.
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  There was now this. Was a Maggie Gyllenhaal
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  production, wasn't it? And who, who was in it?
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  I I didn't even really pay that close attention to it.
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  Yeah, it's Christian Bale. It's the Moss.
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  Right. Christian Bale?
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  Yeah. And then I don't remember the
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  the bride. I've never seen her before, but
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  she's like a Scottish actress. Jesse Buckley.
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  I'm, I'm looking it up right now, Jesse.
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  Buckley That's right. And then Jake Gyllenhaal is
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  shoehorned into this movie as well.
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  Maggie's brother. He gets to play like a 1920s
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  dancing vaudeville *. Like superstars.
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  Right. There's like 5 different things
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  going on in this movie and none of them are particularly of
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  interest. And the scenes are very flat.
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  There's no emotion. The dialogue is very stilted.
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  I don't remember a time when I've been to the movies recently
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  where Rob has leaned over to me so many different times during
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  the movie to comment on the scene we just watched.
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  Yeah. That's how it like, he wasn't
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  holding your attention, Rob, very much because you were
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  commenting way more than you ever have because you were, I
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  think, bored. And I was kind of bored too.
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  Like if this movie was stitched together like Frankenstein's
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  face and it doesn't really hang together all that great.
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  And frankly, I was just like, what is going on?
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  This detective story that they shoehorned in with penélope Cruz
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  and this other kind of wanker guy that they paired him up
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  with. There was a zero chemistry
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  between these two it. Was Peter 0 like nobody other
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  guy? Yeah.
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  We didn't care about anything that they were doing, any of
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  their exchanges in the car. It was.
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  Just. It was just.
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  So there's a couple of ties. There's a couple of ties with
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  them. Yeah, it wasn't great.
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  There was. There was some ties with them to
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  the main story. The detective has a tie and the
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  penélope Cruz character who's like a detective, but because
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  she's a woman, she's not really being taken seriously.
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  And that's all sort of part of this feminist uprising that
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  happens after the bride becomes exposed.
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  And that is very shoehorned in. That could have been a lot
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  better. They could have just made that
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  the story, made that up the Side Story to the main love story
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  between the two of them. And it would have been fine.
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  But instead they tossed in the detective, the, the woman, the
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  the woman scientist. And it just kind of becomes like
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  we're, we're hearing, why are we even talk?
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  Why are we with these detectives?
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  I don't care about these guys. I want to see Frankenstein and
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  the Bride do more Frankenstein and the Bride stuff.
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  Did the do you think any of those were shoehorned in?
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  Like put in after maybe audiences reacted to a test
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  screening and they went back in and needed some more stuff.
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  It's hard to say. I mean, it's hard to I, I does
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  feel like it's a two hour and 7 minute long movie.
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  So maybe it was supposed to be a longer movie, but I just, there
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  was a couple of moments where I felt like that.
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  Was out of and you feel every. Minute they edited that out of
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  sequence yeah there was like yeah, just a couple of moments
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  what why why did we why are we here we just saw this and
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  shouldn't that have happened before that happened well.
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  That's what I'm saying. You mentioned a few times during
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  the movie like there was too many conveniences, like the
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  detective overhearing critical plot information that again, we
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  weren't being shown the plot. We were being explained the plot
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  throughout almost the entire movie.
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  It was like all a lot of talking and very little in the way of
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  delivering the action. And so that was frustrating too.
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  The whole thing was a mess. This was just like a a plate of
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  spaghetti on the floor. This sounds like primate like
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  when you explain primate no. Primate was better than this.
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  Well, that I'll, I'll take that. But my point being you said it
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  was like it things were explained to you very quickly to
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  kind of move things along as opposed to shown.
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  I would agree with that. I I actually said this exact
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  thing to Barry on the way out. To me it was it was similar in a
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  way. The other one was a lot more
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  cohesive because it was so simple, but this is a much more
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  fun. Entertaining.
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  This is a much more complex, complex story that they're that
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  they're trying to tell and it doesn't really deliver in the
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  end. However, however, that all said,
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  it was a, it had beautiful moments, like visually beautiful
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  moments, some great 1930s stuff in it, some some great period
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  like costumes and pieces and moments.
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  I thought Frankenstein was Christian Bale's Frankenstein
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  was, was interesting. He was fun.
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  He was an interesting version of that.
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  And the bride I thought was, was great.
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  I just wish, I wish there was more consistency there, you
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  know? Right.
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  Did he have the bolts? He, no, he didn't have the
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  bolts, but he what he did have the he did have a Flathead and
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  it was, he was stitched. Yeah, but it was a it was.
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  A Warner Brothers. Yeah, it's a Warner Brothers
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  movie. So they couldn't they couldn't
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  really steal the Universal kind of look, right, But it's close
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  enough because Frank it. Was.
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  Close, right? Yeah, Frankenstein's in the
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  public domain, but not the Frankenstein.
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  With the bolts. I got it.
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  OK, you got to pay up for the Bolts, Jay.
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  Well. You know how many bolts
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  Frankenstein has 2 bolts on his neck.
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  And in our show, we do two shots, so.
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  Flawless, dude. You really are the maestro.
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  Let's go. Kick us off what have you got
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  for shot #2? Strawberry bubbly.
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  Nice. Barry, I'm sticking with the pre
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  workout Jay. At the post post workout.
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  Gentlemen love it. Cheers, Chin.
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  Chin. Here's to you guys.
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  So yeah, you know, I wouldn't rush out and see it.
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  Also, another thing that Rob noticed was there's a shifting
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  aspect ratio. When you see this in IMAX, some
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  of it is an IMAX full screen and then some of it isn't.
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  And some of the stuff that is full screen, you're wondering
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  why full screen. It's like a close up of like
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  Frankenstein in the car. It's like he's just driving or
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  he's just sitting there as a passenger.
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  Like it's like, why is this IMAX?
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  But they you know it, just like I said, it's a mess.
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  A total, not her mess. It is all I.
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  Enjoyed primate so much better. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Primate 10 out of 10 and compared to that just slog and
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  Jay, you would have felt every minute of that two O 7.
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  In fact, I I would. I could see you getting up and
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  saying, you know what? I'm out.
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  I'm good. You would have been.
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  Yeah. It's just.
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  I'm sorry. I'm bored.
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  I mean, as much as Rob. Rob said it.
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  It looks fantastic. Beautiful.
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  They spent money on the and. The bride, the bride is fabulous
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  and all that stuff. She's great and she could have
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  been. She's the only.
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  Thing that's in a better movie and.
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  One more thing we should we should touch on this really
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  quickly. There was a cool plot device.
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  They actually put Mary Shelley the writer.
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  That was really her spirit is the one who inhabits the body of
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  this bridewoman. So she has like a dual
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  personality and she's flipping back and forth between Mary
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  Shelley, like 1818 Mary Shelley with her British accent.
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  And then she flips back to being just an American girl from
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  Chicago. So that was cool.
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  She's like a thesaurus. She actually like.
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  So basically, while she's alive, Mary Shelley is is kind of a
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  spirit and she comes to the movie viewer as a spirit talking
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  in this pitch dark, sort of 1810 looking kind of visual and
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  stuff. And she's like, I I want to make
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  I want to make the real story. You know, that I want to tell
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  the real story. Like a Frankenstein was just
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  something I was kind of forced to do.
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  I'm going to tell the real story.
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  I'm going to do it for real. And she actually kind of
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  inhabits this girl as she's alive, kind of puts herself into
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  her, and she kind of is flashing in and out of being this Mary
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  Shelley character back to herself again, who's also a bit
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  of a crazy. She's, you know, she's a bit
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  over the top as a character anyway.
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  You know, it's probably like a flapper of that era or something
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  who's a little bit yay, you know, party girl.
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  Just to clarify for me, like so Mary Shelley, the writer of
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  Frankenstein is in the book and Frankenstein is is a real
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  monster though, like how does that work if she wrote the book
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  about Frankenstein and then. Yeah, I, I it's all a fantasy.
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  That's where there's no answers to any of this stuff.
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  It's just OK, really. That seems like.
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  AI really love, I love the idea of Mary Shelley inhabiting the
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  bride and sort of being a part of that personality because it
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  really does sort of sort of like come out in in erratic, fun
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  ways. That makes sense.
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  Yeah. But but and and the actress
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  again portrayed that it would beautifully like she was fucking
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  great but. Coming back and forth.
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  It was good. Yeah, she was.
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  Like the dark half that Barry knows that and you know, it's
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  like the Stephen King character that was well in the book.
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  That was the only difference is that's a George RR or a Romero
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  film and that was well done versus this is just a steaming
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  bowl of dribble anyway. But let me.
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  Let me think we should add. I wanted to add the, the one
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  thing about the, the we, we turned, there's a, there's a
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  couple of musical numbers in here.
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  They're not really, really singing, but they're, they're
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  dancing. And, and at one point I, I
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  looked at, I looked at them and I said, like on the second
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  number or somebody like, are we watching Joker 2?
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  This is like Joker 2. It's Harlequin and the Joker,
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  but they're just people. But it's Frankenstein.
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  And there was also a nod to what?
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  What's the Mel Brooks movie again?
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  Baseball saddles. No.
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  Neither of those two. Young Frankenstein Young.
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  Frankenstein. Oh yeah.
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  Right. Where where Christian Christian
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  Bale says putting on the Ritz was was was a the big dance
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  number in in in in that movie. But, well, that was all.
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  Here's. This movie.
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  He also does a fair bit of crying.
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  The Frankenstein monster really shouldn't be crying.
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  Like he's a bit of a wimp. Like he has one scene where he
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  beats a couple of guys to death. That's great.
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  That's what you expect from Frankenstein.
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  And then a few scenes later, he's having a meltdown about
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  something else. Like, you know, Oh my, my cheese
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  sandwich is undercooked. It was something so stupid that
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  you're like, well, what are we talk?
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  What are we talking about here? That didn't bother me so much.
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  I didn't mind having emotion with with that character, but I
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  understand why. No one.
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  Why even connect the tear ducts when you're putting them back
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  together? No, you just leave those undone.
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  Before we get to star ratings and I can guess, yeah, hold on,
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  hold that thought. I I heard as we were going
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  through the weekend when it debuted that it did not do well
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  like it quite underperformed expectations.
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  So it like people just got the word that just don't go see this
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  movie on. Ron already had the word on our
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  way to the theater. I was.
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  Like I'm so. Excited.
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  It's getting great reviews. He's like, no, it's not.
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  I mean, it's getting very, very average reviews, I think.
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  I think the problem is, is that I think part of why I really
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  wanted to see it is because to me, it seemed like an original
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  idea. And you don't see anymore,
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  right? So I was like, I'm on board for
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  an original idea. And that was my selling point to
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  Barry. Seems like an original movie.
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  That's why not? Why not?
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  They deserve money that if they're trying things, right?
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  So yeah, yeah. And it was original, but it was
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  also kind of, they could have just, since it could have just
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  been better, you know? Yeah, it was just poorly
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  executed, but they still get full marks for trying to do
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  something original. Yeah, 100.
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  Percent. OK, let's go to star ratings
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  then. Barry, why don't you kick us off
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  'cause I don't think you could hold that back any longer.
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  You know what at? 12 out of seven, yeah.
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  It's not my usual glowing review.
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  I usually like everything that I see, as you guys well know, but
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  this one I just felt I I felt out of it because the the scenes
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  were just really flat. The dialogue was flat.
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  The the acting, aside from what we've already touched on, the
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  bride being absolutely the stand out.
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  I mean, even Christian Bale, who's extremely skilled, he
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  couldn't save this train wreck of a movie.
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  It was just messy and like they were shoehorning way too many
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  plots into this story. They could have just simplified
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  it. They could have taken the the
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  primate approach and it would have been very enjoyable, but
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  they didn't so. Right to the end.
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  Yeah, 100%, yeah. You know, sadly, I just it's
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  boring and it is very much like Joker 2.
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  Like Rob said, it's so that if you saw that, then avoid this
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  one. I'm I'm giving this one like
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  it's a one out of five. It's just bad.
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  Lowest star rating ever on the show.
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  It's terrible. That is easily the lowest star
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  rating I've ever heard you give in my life.
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  Yeah, I know. And I, it gives me no pleasure
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  to do it. I.
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  Don't. Like it?
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  I got to be honest with you. But who can't?
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  Sucked. Rob, how about you?
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  I'll give you the real score and this, this is the, this is the
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  real score. I would say, I would say, I
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  would say this is probably a 2 1/2 or a three.
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  And I think it may be a three because it is visually stunning.
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  There is enough, there is enough good acting in it from, from,
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  from the bride and from Christian Bale here and there
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  that I, I think is, I think you can sit back at home and watch
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  it and be OK with it. You might want put it split into
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  two parts, but I don't think it's, it's worse than that.
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  I think it's it's, it's got enough good stuff in it.
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  It is just a bit long and too many plot lines.
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  That's it. But I think you gave like
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  Superman, a three star. Yeah, this isn't.
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  This isn't tying up unless you saw.
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  That's a big difference between like, yeah, OK.
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  I got, I mean, it's like to me it's a six.
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  It's a six out of 10. It's like a just above average,
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  but not by much, you know? Well then, before we go, Rob,
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  give us what is instead of this Frankenstein movie.
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  What's the best Frankenstein movie to check out?
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  For our viewers. And listeners.
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  Probably the probably the original.
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  Just the original Universal Frankenstein movie.
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  It was just a great movie. It's fun to watch.
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  I just watched it last Halloween for the first time in a while.
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  Enjoyed it? It's very short too, right?
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  It's like an hour long. Yeah, yeah, they're.
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  All very short. That would be great to watch.
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  And Barry, why don't you take us out, Let us know what's coming
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  up because I know you guys have got some other movies coming up
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  that you're going to see. Maybe you'll review them on the
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  show here. Yes, we will.
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  We have a couple scheduled for April at the time of this
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  recording. So we have nothing more for this
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  month. We had talked talked about going
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  to see Hail Mary, but that is just not lining up with our
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  individual schedules. But I think, Rob, you and I are
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  going to go check out the Super Mario Galaxy, and I think there
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  was one other one you were wanted to see in April.
• 17:50
  Yeah, maybe. I don't remember what it was,
• 17:52
  but yeah, it's. Some The Mummy We're going to
• 17:54
  wait and see at The Mummy. Mummy.
• 17:56
  Yeah, yeah, be. Awaiting.
• 17:57
  You're going to wait. It looks.
• 17:58
  It looks a little sketchy. We'll have to see.
• 18:00
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a kid mummy, so I
• 18:03
  don't know. Kid Mummy.
• 18:05
  What is going on? I mean originality fine, but.
• 18:08
  Yeah. Well, they're trying something
• 18:10
  new, Barry. We got to go see it.
• 18:11
  They're trying something new. I'm still giving it one.
• 18:14
  Give them more money. Give them more money.
• 18:16
  Yeah, one out of five, three out of five.
• 18:18
  It's we're somewhere in the middle.
• 18:19
  If you take our 2 scores, I think it's still not anything
• 18:22
  you want to spend your money on. It's.
• 18:23
  Probably, it's probably, yeah, it's probably a 2 1/2 really,
• 18:25
  honestly, honestly, at the end of it's probably a 2 1/2
• 18:27
  average, very average. Well, I won't see it either way.
• 18:31
  Thank you, gentlemen. Rob, thanks for being here
• 18:33
  again. As always, your insights is
• 18:37
  that's the word on the street. Whatever you give on a movie,
• 18:40
  that's the that's the word on the street.
• 18:42
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