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#45 - Snow Tha Product · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We own a motherfucking buck, We own a motherfucking boot lick,
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  Speaker 1: Snow the Product. You know, I've been fucking with the
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  Speaker 1: got to speak with Snow. Great conversation on the way,
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  Speaker 1: Snow the product live. This shit is pre recorded, it's
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  Speaker 1: We have got the very very legendary, very very talented.
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  Speaker 1: Oh geez, Snow, Snow, the product is here. Legend gentlemen,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much. Welcome to the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: You've been killing shit during the quarantine. I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to you. I was like, man, your podcast is going crazy.
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  Speaker 1: You're independent much as yours. No, I'm trying to learn
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  Speaker 1: from you. And yes, you've seen me. You've it's been
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  Speaker 1: a long journey between us. Huh yeah. I think the
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  Speaker 1: first time we ever met was at south By Southwest
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  Speaker 1: and you had a bit of a grudge against me.
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  Speaker 1: Because the interview. The interview never came out. Yeah, an
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  Speaker 1: interview never came out. I don't know what happened. I
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  Speaker 1: was drunk at south By interviewing people. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was twenty thirteen. Yeah, and and yeah, I know that
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  Speaker 1: I was just salty because that happened to me with
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  Speaker 1: a few different people. It's way even, I told you,
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  Speaker 1: And I was just like, yo, I feel like everybody
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't want a Mexican girl to fucking say her shit.
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  Speaker 1: But no, I understand as someone who's married to a
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  Speaker 1: Mexican woman and who has had a child with another
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  Speaker 1: Mexican woman. Okay, I love Mexican women. You just don't
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  Speaker 1: want to hear us talk. All I do is I'm
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  Speaker 1: just kidding. I'm just kidding, Na. But obviously, you know
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  Speaker 1: you've had a long journey, and you know now that
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  Speaker 1: you're independent, you got no management. You had a stint
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  Speaker 1: with like Atlantic Records that was probably less than fulfilling. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what made you like just decide to just go all
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  Speaker 1: in on just fully independence and getting rid of management
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  Speaker 1: all that? Because even people are independent usually have management. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I I feel like, huh, where do I start. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a very accountable person, like if I fuck up, like
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you and like I'll you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Like I just was raised like that. My dad was
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  Speaker 1: a very macho like Mexican man that was just like
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  Speaker 1: you know, my word is my bond and all the shit.
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  Speaker 1: So like he really was like you're and I was
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  Speaker 1: a tomboy, so like he really was like you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be like that, Like I don't care that you're a girl.
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  Speaker 1: You better you know always, so I always have been accountable.
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  Speaker 1: So whenever I realized that this industry has a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people that are not accountable or like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: whenever mistakes happen, if people just own up to him,
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  Speaker 1: that's cool. But whenever it starts being finger pointing and whatever,
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  Speaker 1: when you got too many chefs in the kitchen, what
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  Speaker 1: happens is there's way more people to point the fingers.
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  Speaker 1: So now you start kind of getting fucked up. And
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  Speaker 1: I think Dave Chappelle said this in an interview, like
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  Speaker 1: if you feeling like people want you to fucking go crazy,
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  Speaker 1: like you'd be like yo, like are y'all doing this
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  Speaker 1: on purpose? Like I can't tell what's going on? So
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  Speaker 1: I needed to distance myself from everything and everyone and
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  Speaker 1: be like, okay, like let me reset and make sure
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  Speaker 1: I'm not tripping because I have fans, I do, go
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  Speaker 1: on tour. I work my fucking ass off. I get
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  Speaker 1: up at seven in the morning, I go to sleep
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  Speaker 1: at you know, midnight. I'm recording, or I'm vlogging, or
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  Speaker 1: I'm shooting videos, or I'm editing or I'm I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: all these things. I'm like, no way you could tell
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  Speaker 1: me it's all on me, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like people would make me feel like
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  Speaker 1: it was all on me. So I was like, all right, bet,
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  Speaker 1: like let's just do it and if I take my
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  Speaker 1: l then I'll take my l proudly and if I win,
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  Speaker 1: then I'll win. And lucky for me, I just valued
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  Speaker 1: being happy and I'm very happy right now. So how
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  Speaker 1: long ago did that like officially like come into like
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  Speaker 1: like how long did you get out of the Atlantic
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  Speaker 1: situation and become fully like Indie from everything. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be two years, I think, like a year and a
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  Speaker 1: half or something like that. I think I'm very bad
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  Speaker 1: with time. But like, so what if you noticed, like
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  Speaker 1: did you notice that it wasn't like you weren't crazy,
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  Speaker 1: especially yeah and well, and then it took it took
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  Speaker 1: a while to fire my earth like to get separate
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  Speaker 1: ways with my management. I had done it before with
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  Speaker 1: another manager that it just kind of wasn't working. I
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  Speaker 1: just felt like, you know, in this industry, as an artist,
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  Speaker 1: I understand the artists that want to be industry plants
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  Speaker 1: so bad. I've seen people that are just like they
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  Speaker 1: want everything for them. They want it. They're just like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, please like pull the all these favors, and
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  Speaker 1: I want to feature, and I wanna, you know, go
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  Speaker 1: there and and and you know, suck that guy's dig
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  Speaker 1: and then this guy's dig, and then we're gonna fucking
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  Speaker 1: collab and and I'm gonna take all your fan base.
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  Speaker 1: And It's like I've never been that type, right, So
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't see why I need to do
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  Speaker 1: it that way. If I'm the type like I'll earn
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  Speaker 1: my fan base one at a time, like I'll drop
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  Speaker 1: my own videos. I'm not gonna be begging people for
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  Speaker 1: features like let's just you know. So to me, the
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  Speaker 1: biggest thing I feel like I noticed was just peace
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  Speaker 1: of mind, was just realizing that if you're an artist
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  Speaker 1: you're you're a small business, So why don't you just
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  Speaker 1: scale that shit? You know what I mean? Like, rather
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  Speaker 1: than having a thousand fans, have two thousand and now
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  Speaker 1: three thousand and now four thousand, and the same way
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  Speaker 1: that if you own a fucking tire shop or a
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  Speaker 1: donut shop, like you're gonna do marketing, You're gonna fucking
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  Speaker 1: you know, get up and work every day. Like it's
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  Speaker 1: the same fucking shit. I just I don't see why.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see why I should be treated any different.
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  Speaker 1: And when I when I treated it like that and
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  Speaker 1: I started actually seeing money, I was like, Yo, if
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  Speaker 1: I could feed my family and I can employ my family,
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  Speaker 1: and I could make sure that I spend time with
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  Speaker 1: my kid and my girl and my friends and my family,
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  Speaker 1: like the fuck that is the dream, you know? Like
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  Speaker 1: what am I really reaching for? Like I want to
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  Speaker 1: be on Rolling Stone? Like I don't give a fuck. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I always tell people, I'm like, hey, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you could fuck buying followers. You would rather have a
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  Speaker 1: thousand people following you that are actually that will give
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  Speaker 1: you money, that will support whatever you're doing, then having
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  Speaker 1: like one hundred thousand of this motherfuckers who are following
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  Speaker 1: you for the wrong reasons. Yeah, oh yeah, and I've
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  Speaker 1: seen that too, Like I'll be seeing people stunting with
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  Speaker 1: their numbers and it's like brother fake, Like we all
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  Speaker 1: see it, like it's fake, even if they're fake. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: how can you have a million followers but you put
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  Speaker 1: out an album and it sells like four thousand copies?
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  Speaker 1: Like what's the point then? Or even as simple as
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  Speaker 1: like you have all these followers, you have like one
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  Speaker 1: hundred thousand followers, but you get like this many likes
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  Speaker 1: or whatever it is like or they're all like fucking
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  Speaker 1: Russian bots. Is like ugh, like it's the worst waste
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  Speaker 1: of money. I always tell people like, if you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: spend money on followers, spend money on like shit that
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  Speaker 1: like actually translate to real people fucking with you, even
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  Speaker 1: if it's ten of them, like you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: Like or even that, like the type of fan base
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  Speaker 1: you get by having inflated numbers, Like let's say let's
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  Speaker 1: say somebody goes and sees your page and goes, hm,
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  Speaker 1: he has a lot of followers. Let me like, let
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  Speaker 1: me follow up, Like those are like fly by Night followers.
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  Speaker 1: Those aren't really the ones that are gonna like love
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  Speaker 1: you for you and be with you for the struggle,
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  Speaker 1: and you know what I mean. Like so to me,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think just maturity kind of has
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  Speaker 1: made me realize, like I want to fucking be happy.
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  Speaker 1: Like I you know, I had a kid that I
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  Speaker 1: would have to leave for two month tours and not
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  Speaker 1: see him, you know, And it's like as a mom,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I was fucking crying in my hotel room,
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  Speaker 1: Like all I wanted to do was like be with him.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like, why would I put myself through all
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  Speaker 1: that ten He's ten, now, Yeah, why would I put
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  Speaker 1: myself through all that shit and not be able to
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  Speaker 1: spend the time I want with him? So it's like
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  Speaker 1: I just value life, you know what I mean. We're
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  Speaker 1: all gonna fucking die at some point, might as well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: account you know, when it comes to I feel like
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  Speaker 1: there's no shortcut to getting the type of filowing you
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  Speaker 1: have because you have fans who like are fully engaged
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  Speaker 1: in your life and they're fully invested in you as
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  Speaker 1: like a person. So if you drop a T shirt
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  Speaker 1: or you put out a new record or whatever, like
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  Speaker 1: they're there you go on tour like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people who have way more followers than you can't tour
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  Speaker 1: like you, Yeah, why give a fuck? You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. I think that's the biggest thing is like
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  Speaker 1: I actually care about these human beings. Like there's been
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  Speaker 1: times when I can put up the ticket price or
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  Speaker 1: I can you know, I've had these conversations with like
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  Speaker 1: industry people like well, why don't you just do this
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  Speaker 1: or charge more for this or whatever? And I'm like, bro,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta know what type of fans I have. Like
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  Speaker 1: I have fans that you know, single moms or kids
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  Speaker 1: you know that come from parents you know their parents
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  Speaker 1: are immigrants or whatever. Like you can't just be like, oh, bet,
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  Speaker 1: pay one hundred and fifty now for my ticket just
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  Speaker 1: because I want to want to. Yeah, Like, no, that's
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  Speaker 1: not that's fucking scummy. And I think that's one thing
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  Speaker 1: that goes along way for people, you know, And and
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  Speaker 1: there's both type of artists you could be that you
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  Speaker 1: can be all about the cloud and you can be popping,
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  Speaker 1: and that's cool if that's what you want with your life,
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  Speaker 1: not knocking you at all. Me personally, I don't feel
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  Speaker 1: good about that. And I can't live a life where
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  Speaker 1: I just like feel shitty about myself. Well, also, you
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  Speaker 1: like physically see your fans, like you're like, like you
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  Speaker 1: gotta see these people on tour. Yeah, I'm on stage
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like staring at them, and I'm like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: I feel bad. Like no, like, but there is scummy
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  Speaker 1: people in this industry. That's why there's motherfuckers that gotta
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: be high. They gotta stay high. Like you done did
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: so much scummy shit in your life. You gotta stay
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: high and fucking be able to live with yourself. And
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: it's like, goddamn, yeah, it's crazy. I'm not talking about weed,
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: by the way. I'm just talking about people that just
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  Speaker 1: got other shit. Yeh See, people just go I'm fucked off.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: You're like, damn, bro, Like just I think I think
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: we had. I would say this, like the dark age
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: of music that I've ever been involved in was like
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: two thousand and late twenty sixteen to like twenty eighteen
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: was probably the worst I've ever seen hip hop in
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: terms of what the industry would support, right, It'd be
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: like like literal people getting major record deals based on
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  Speaker 1: antics on Instagram, not based on anything else, just based
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  Speaker 1: on numbers and bullshit. Yeah, and like I think we've
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: started to kind of get like turn a corner on
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  Speaker 1: that era. Yeah, because it was like, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: little pumps and the six nines and yeah, and then
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  Speaker 1: there was you know, just Instagram pranksters getting record deals,
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  Speaker 1: which is like with me feeling bad for that, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm very momish, you know. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: I felt bad because those people got to live with
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: those with with those like what comes with that? You
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: feel like a lot of there was a lot of
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of major label people or you know, industry
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: people that are just like, all right, bet I'm gonna
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: take this kid and they're gonna have a baby. Was
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: like a perfect example. I was like, how did this
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: bitch get a record deal? I feel like here's the
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  Speaker 1: thing though, And I might disagree with you on that
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: only because I feel like bad baby actually worked hard
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  Speaker 1: at rapping. Like I feel like she you really put
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  Speaker 1: all right, but she initially I feel like she initially
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: got her deal. I'm not I don't she had some
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: ship that wasn't terrible. The delivery matters because there's a
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: lot of rappers that are getting written Cardi B's delivery
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: is crazy. You're trying to get a headline out of
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  Speaker 1: no no no no no no no. You don't want
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  Speaker 1: to say nothing. I'm being honest, Like Cardi B don't
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  Speaker 1: do me one of my cardib is one of my
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  Speaker 1: favorite artists. I love Cardi B. There's like she really
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: can't do no wrong in my book. But like you said,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't give a fuck if someone writes for her,
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: I don't carer sh it is fire. I just think
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: the Bad Baby deal initially happened, and I'm not even
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: mad at some of this ship she ended up putting out,
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: but she got signed based on just her being a
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  Speaker 1: meme and then she you know, she committed to actually
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: you know, the craft are trying to like you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, I'm not even mad at Bad
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  Speaker 1: Baby as much as I'm mad at some other people,
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  Speaker 1: but like she got signed initially because she was a meme.
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  Speaker 1: Now she ran with that and she actually took it
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  Speaker 1: serious and she still is trying to take a serious
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not trying to throw the shade air.
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  Speaker 1: But that was like an example of like she got
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: signed because of some ig shit, but I hit her
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  Speaker 1: up when when when she got signed and I was like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: on some real shit because I was at Atlantic at
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: the time, and I was like, on some real shit,
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: like good shit, you know, because I remember how much
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: people were shitting on her on the internet, and I
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: was like, bro, as a fifteen year old girl to
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  Speaker 1: get I don't think I could have emotionally handled some
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: of the shit that this girl handled, feel me, So
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: you got to give some kids some props of like,
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  Speaker 1: god damn, you sat there and took that and turned
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  Speaker 1: it into something and you got an opportunity you took
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  Speaker 1: run with it, you know what I mean. And I
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  Speaker 1: think I think that's what because my girl was saying
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: something about there's this TikToker that you know, had a
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  Speaker 1: hard life or whatever, and then she just killed herself,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you know, it's like you got
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  Speaker 1: to understand that these kids end up having to deal
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  Speaker 1: with all this shit and all this hay, like they're
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: not growing up how like we did, you know, back
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  Speaker 1: in like with MySpace or whatever. It's like it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: as bad as now nowadays. Motherfucker's like on Twitter or
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: you know, Instagram, like you really can get fun you
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: see those comments and you start comparing yourself to whatever
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: you see. Yeah, I can't even imagine. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I got a niece who is just on her phone NonStop.
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  Speaker 1: I could see it with my own eyes. That'd be
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  Speaker 1: fucking with her, Like, yeah, what what's popping on Instagram?
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  Speaker 1: What is considered pretty on Instagram? Yeah? And then comments
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: like these motherfuckers are like, we've never had to deal
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: with that as kids. Yeah, And I don't know, I
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: think you and I might be close in age. I'm
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: thirty three. Yeah. I think the most I ever dealt
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: with was like like MySpace, and that was when I
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: was like eighteen. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's one of
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: them things where you know, society, you know what I mean.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: And it's like now it's getting to a point where
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: like whether you're traveling, politics, hip hop, sports, fucking business
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: in general, like you know, Fortune five hundred companies, like
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: there's a real responsibility of being a good human being
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: because we are on the same fucking moving rock and
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: we're about to fuck this bitch up. Also like also
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: going down because you're fucking idiot ass made some stupid
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: ass decisions, and also like be a good person because
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: now there's a record of you being a piece of
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: shit on the Internet forever. Okay, So I don't like
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: cancel culture as like that much. But also I don't
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: like the cancel cancel culture people that are like, you
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have repercussions for what you've said you should there
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: should be something that you have to deal with for
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: being a shitty person, Like there should be a record
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: there of like mad races before. Like I certainly think that,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: you know, the cancel like, there's like a with anything, right,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: there's like a middle ground where it's like I'm kind
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: of on the same wavelength as you. I'm like, Yo,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: there's people that literally deserve to get canceled, and then
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: there's other shit that's like what are we doing here? Yeah,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: like come on, guys, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: It's like, I guess it's just kind of is you know.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing with like the me too shit.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: It's like there's situations for like, yeah, this shit is great,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: and then there's other situations where there's people getting called
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: out with no proof and then their life is ruined.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: So it's like there's got to be a balance, And
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: I think with the cancel culture. Shit, that's like a
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, there's people getting canceled, and I'm like, bro,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: it's a stretch. Yeah. I feel like there's people that
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: just sit on Twitter all day just waiting to fucking
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: just hop on someone. Yeah, I've even gotten there, like
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: and you know me, for a long time, I've been
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: this Mexican wave waving the flag my people, you know,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: and then I'll get sometimes like Chikana's coming at me
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: like blah blah, like over semantics, you know, like something
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: fucking small, and then it's just like could never be me.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, bitch, it could never be you. This has
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: been on a decade of me doing what you now
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: see as like a hot point or like a fucking
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: and now you want to say something and you want
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: to come at me like, no, bitch, there's a fucking
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: record that bitch has been doing this for a long time.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: And I just feel like there is this weird sense
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: of entitlement with people that are just like like they
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: could do it better, but unless you're actually doing it,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: like you gotta leave room for error for people just
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: imagine like wanting to like like come off like you're
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: doing right, but you're putting the effort that you could
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: be putting into whatever that is, into pointing out someone else.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Like you said, semantics. Really a lot of this cancer
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: culture shit is like semantics. It's like what are we
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: really tripping over? Like yeah, twelve year old tweets, Yeah,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like like again or like
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: or like a little like one degree of like being
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: like you know, one little fact was wrong as opposed
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: to like the big rusher of like brouh, Like I'm
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: a fucking human being, you know what I'm saying, Like
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I'm allowed to yah misspeak or yeah, it's it's pretty crazy.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, isn't it so crazy that
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: it's kind of funny? Like don't you sometimes sit back,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Like sometimes I all look at the internet like, bro,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: this is so dumb. Like I've literally been in some conversations,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: mind you important ones when like a room and I'll
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: literally be sitting there and I'll be like, I'm not
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: even gonna argue with this person who thinks they're on
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: their soapbox right now, because I'm like, what am I
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: gonna get out of this? Like we're gonna fucking argue,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: just gonna get worked up, you're dumb, and that's it.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: And I think that's I think the first couple of
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: years of Trump being president, I was like super like
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: stressed and engaged with people on the internet, even like
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: some of my own cousins. And then the last couple
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: of years, I'm just like, you know what, like I
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: can't give my own personal like peace to this shit.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Don't wry, yeah, because it's like what, like like the
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: people who are over here, there's just nothing you could
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: say to them, yeah, to make them feel any sort
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: of difference. So what do you what are you arguing for? Like, yeah,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you know, like if fuck, if your mood or exactly,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: or it's like like like sometimes if they look turn
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: aroundable because sometimes my girl will get on me too,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: like she'll be like, why are you arguing or whatever?
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, Okay, if there's something that's being said,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: that's like, let me correct that and maybe you get it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: But if there's just some straight up like like fucking,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I guess right a field. I was gonna say left
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: a field, but I guess right a field, I'm just
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: like whatever, dude, like you're not you know. But there
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: has been a lot of times when even someone hating
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: on me or something like if I tell them, well,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: actually that's not what it was. It was this. There's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: people that will literally be like, oh wow, thank you
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: for well, you know what's crazy is most of the time,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and you have haters on the internet because I've had
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: this on a much smaller scale than you could ever
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: because you're way bigger than me. But like, someone will
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: slide on my dms not thinking I'll ever reply, talking
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: some shit about something. Yeah, like maybe I'm misspoken to
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: interview whatever it is, and then if I reply, they're like, oh, man,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you know what, you're coolest shit? Man, my bad bro,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I was tripping like that. Shit happens all the time.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I'd be crazy. Yeah, no, I'm saying more like whenever
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: people are like, oh, like, oh this fucking white bitch
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: rapping she don't know shit, and I'm like, well, I'm
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: not white, I'm Mexican, you know, And then they'll be like, oh, well,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: what's the difference. I'm like, well, you know, like a lot,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: a lot, like a lot, but you know, but not
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: if we're all human race, you know, what, which way
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: do you want to talk about this? You know, you
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: want to talk about human race and on a big
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: fucking rock, or you want to talk about you know,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: how I grew up or environment or class or what
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: what way do you want to take this? Mostly I
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: argue back with people whenever I'm on the toilet. If
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not, you're not getting it's a great place, for sure.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah I got time, Like I literally have time. I
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: literally have time right now. I'm like, you know, could
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: have had more fiber. I'm gonna sit here for a
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: little bit. Let's talk about it. Oh that's great, So
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: talk to me about your experience. Because so for people
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: who don't know, because I think a lot of people
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: probably assumed you were independent this whole time because you
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: moved around like an independent artist, but you were on
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Atlantic for how many years? Saved my life forever. But
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: the thing is, and this is the thing with a
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: lot of people, because I had somebody argue with me recently, like, oh,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: you were on a label, so you can't talk. And
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: it's like, actually being shelved on a label is worse
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: than being independent. I promise you never did shit for you. Yeah,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, being shelved on a label is actually
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: way worse than doing it on your own because I
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: couldn't drop music, you know what I mean. Like I
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: couldn't upload to like something with it's ten dollars to
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: upload on tune Core. I couldn't even do that. So
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: now I'm dealing with I could be in reach of contract,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I could do it, like all these different things going on,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: and I'm uploading to YouTube because it's safe. But you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: but then so I'm being seen as an artist but
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: not really being able to drop music. So you cannot
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: you really can't monetize what you like. You know, it
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: was bad, bro, I didn't have There was times when
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I was broke as fuck, and like literally I just
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I let the world not know that because I was
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: just like, yo, that'll be the end of my career
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: if I literally let people know how bad I'm fucking doing.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I had my my you know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: my marriage or whatever to pay bills or whatever. I
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: never had. I wasn't I never did no questionable shit
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: because like I'm a hard worker, bro, I fucking work
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: at the grocery store. If I need to, like, I
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: don't give a fuck, you know, So to me, I
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: moved how I needed a move, and I gave Atlantic
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: their their due respect for giving me an opportunity. Like
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I've said before, I don't I don't say that they
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: fucking ruined my life or anything. I think part of
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: it was like I shouldn't known when to leave. I
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have given it the time I did, you know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Like same thing with friends sometimes, like or a relationship,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: like you knew when it was time to go, and
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you stuck around with the hopes of shit getting better,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: you know, or like you were like damn, like you know.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: One time, I remember I was gonna when I wrote
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: this song called I Don't Want to Leave. I was
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: crying when I wrote that. I literally was like about
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to leave Atlantic, and I literally named the song I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Don't Want to Leave because I was like I signed
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: to this thinking that I was going to represent for
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: my culture and for my family, and I was going
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: to be put on this platform where I fucking no,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: not even a pedestal for me, a platform for me
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: to be able to speak on something that hasn't been
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: on a large scale nowadays. Nowadays you see a lot
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: more Mexican rappers waving the flag and shit, but back then,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: there was none. Trust me, like I always tell everybody like,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I think you kind of broke the mold of where
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: like how we look at Mexican embassies because back then
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: it was we just automatically went to like thinking of
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: like Little Rob and those guys, and there was some
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: guys that were like obviously you know, super dope, like
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: cycle around like Cyper Salo shit like that. But like,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like in your era, like you were the
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: first person to come along. Even the record you do
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: to MC Magic and Twist, you were like snapping, yeah,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I remember because that's the first time I ever heard you,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: and I remember hitting Magic like who's this girl on
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: this song? We could really rap? Yeah, And we have
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: done that track like a two before, but it didn't
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: drop till I started kind of picking myself up, you
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I think because I've seen
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: somebody recently be like you know that she kind of rap,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: you know, get open the door for me or whatever,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, look, all respected Chicino rap and I
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and I feel that. But at the same time, we're
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: talking about hip hop and being Mexican, and it's like
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: there is sonically musically a difference, you know what I mean,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: And it's like it's not because I think any less
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: of it because it's dope, Like I'll get on a
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: feature or something, but I just come from hip hop,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's it's kind of
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: like if there's like SoundCloud rapp right now or some
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: sort of like type of music and I'm like, yo,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: like you know, I did, like no, like we gotta
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: know the difference between sonically like or genres or whatever
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the fuck you know. But with me, with that that
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: whole waving the flag shit, I feel like I was
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: doing it out of the need because I didn't see it.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: It wasn't because I was like I'm gonna be the one.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: It was just kind of like, yo, I don't see
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: it being done. So let me. I think you're like,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: you're the first artist in a long time that was
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: dope that happened to be Mexican as opposed to seeing
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a Mexican artist as ay like he like like when
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you think of Little Rob, and I fuck with Robs,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he's got some fucking classics,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But when I think a
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Little Rob, I think of like, yeah, he's Mexican and oh,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and any you think of it like you're like a
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: dope rapper first and then it's like, oh shit, she's Mexican.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't eve. I wouldn't have known, you know what
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think. I think it's just like I said,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: sonically and the the Ship, how you grew up, you know.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I grew up listening to like E forty and mac
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: dre and Too Short and Baby and pun and like
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you know, Lauren Hill and the Outcast, and it's like
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: that's it's just a different and it's like no offense,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I don't, it's just
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: different the same feel me. Yeah, and and for example,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: and I had to take the hits for that because
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: at the same time, I would go to a car
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: show and perform and the fucking all the trolls in
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the crowd would look at me like the this bitch
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: doing this girl straight up? You know, or like you know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I've I've had to be in those rooms where you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: there's somebody checking me and being like, oh you're you
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, like you what you chasing other
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: races for? Like, we have to deal with our colorism
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and our issues in our fucking culture, you know, with
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: with with crossing those those lines and shit, And I've
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: had to teach my family my friends, like, yo, this
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: is how you talk. This is why that's wrong. You
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: need to I stopped talking to most of my fucking
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: family for the same reason for being homophobic, for being
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: halfway racist, for being colorists. Like when you go through
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: all those things and you've tooken the hits for all
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: those things. When I speak about the experience that I've had,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I also hope that people respect where I'm coming from.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: When I'm like kind of rap didn't necessarily open the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: door for me because I had to kind of open
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: another door for myself, you know what I mean, Like
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: it just is what it is. I had to open
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: that hip hop door for myself. I feel like when
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: what what do you think was the first moment where
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: like people started to like respect you as an MC,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: like on a big on a big scale. Because I remember,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: like when you were on text album, like that was
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: a big deal. Like I remember like a few moments
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: where it was like, oh shits, and I was like
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: doing her thing like yeah, like can you remember like
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: what that moment like one of that one of those
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: first moments were where you started to be respected in
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the hip hop community as opposed to like you said,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I think when I did the BT cipher, Yeah, I
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people kind of like were like, oh,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you know. And and I was in that room, like
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: in that big auditorium where they did the BT cipher.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I could tell you the reactions to every other cipher
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: were edited in. There was no reaction to ciphers until
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I made that fucking line that that Jocelyn her Nada's line,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you know. And that's when people were like, oh shit,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: probably mostly because because she was down the she was
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: so she was like five people away from me, and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: thats a big girl. I was like, holy shit, I'm
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: about to get my ass b over this fucking line
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I just said. But I stand by my shit. I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: was like, I better be able to run with these heels.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't. That was one of the first times I
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: wore heels. I was like, bitch, I'm bother, get my husband.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: But nah, she was cool. And that whole thing was
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: just a moment. You know. I've always used any moment
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I got in a big platform to speak up on
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: what I see and what I think and it's true.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: It still stands true today. You know, people want to
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: talk about narcos and coppos and my plug is Mexican
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: and my plug is this and whatever. But at the
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: end of the day, it's like, are you gonna give
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: those props actually to like people like or are you
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: just gonna use the low writers and the trollos for
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the music video? But like the next time that you're
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: homie or somebody's rapping that's Mexican, you're gonna act like
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: they're less. Then I feel like what was about a
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: year and a half ago, Nico, when there was everybody
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: was making the same fake ass Mexican song. It was
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: like Ygi Go Loco and the Unodos three Squatto. It
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: was like everybody was making that song over and over
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: again and like having like some breros on in the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: videos and shit, and like when you look up Mexican
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: rapper Ygi pops up, I think as like number one.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Like I remember I was showing my mom because I
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, I had never googled Mexican
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: rabber and like I was trying to show her like
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: if I pop up and it was why Gena some
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Barrol like holy shit, you know, and it's like that's
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: cool or whatever, but also for the feature you get
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: a Puerto Rican, well, it would have been nice to
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: fucking give that opportunity to a Mexican person expressly. Why'd
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: you you know, why'd you had a Mexican sad? Yeah,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: and that's and that's cool. But what I'm saying is, like,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you know, in those moments, it is important to shine
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: light at least have them on the remix. You know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: it's important to shine light on things because I do
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: think that their needs and from the Mexican community as well,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: support for you know, because when the BLM thing was happening,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people in my culture talking
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: out of line and being like, you know, saying some
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: crazy shit, and I'm like no, And that's when I
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: do go and start arguing and be like, bruh, you
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: can't be out here representing us like that, because this
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: is going to start a bigger issue that like my
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: kids got to deal with, you know, growing up. It's
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: like I would like it to be to where when
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: my kid is a teenager, he don't got to deal
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: with some of the same ship that we had to
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: deal with growing up. And like those color lines and
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: like certain things that you will say, and it's like
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: it's a big teaching moment for everybody. And I'm really like,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: it sucks when you really give a fuck, because you
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: end up heartbroken most of the time about everything. Like
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: you just be like, oh, you had the perfect chance
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: to say the right thing, is to say the right thing,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and then you say, yeah, you know, it's funny because
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm from Phoenix, so a lot of my uh,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: you know, promoters I work with. Their clubs are Latino
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: and a lot of the clubs I do are like
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: you hate our Pio. Of course he's a piece of shit.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: He's still alive. Yeah, he's fucking just re ran and lost,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: but he actually got part in by Trump, fucking bitch,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: so he went to jail, then got pardoned and then
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: tried to rerun. The guy's a piece of shit. Arizona
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: just went blue though. I mean that's good, but what
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the fuck? No, No, the Arizona's such a racist place.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Well you remember the SB ten to seventy shit, Like
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: was that eight years ago with the you know a
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: lot of people just kind of banned going on tour
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: there because of that. Yeah, I'm kicked out of a
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: couple of clubs in Arizona. Definitely I was popping off,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: well not clubs, there were venues, but I was popping
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: off on stage, and I think you know there was
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: there was just but there was so much like insensitivity
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: towards that moment, you know, in June when when George
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Floyd was murdered in like with some of my homies
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: who were Latin DJs or I'm like, yo, guys, like
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I would like literally DM dudes, Like you know, I
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: got a homie named Luciano who's big on Instagram and
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: he's big on TikTok and shit, and he was like
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: kind of I didn't appreciate the way he was handling
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: his approach to that online. Yeah cause I'm like, bro,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: like your entire livelihood and shout out to him because
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: he was like, you know what, Bro, You're right, this
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: is a teachable moment. You know, like your entire livelihood
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: is based on like promoting clubs where black music is played,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So like, you know, like
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you got to empathize with that. You can't just like
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: when it's convenient, have your feet in it and then
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: and then when you don't like what's going on, you're like, man,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: that's when, and that's what that that's why it does matter.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: And I feel like I get real mad when people
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: like that was good. You hit him up. You see
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: something wrong, that's your boy, That's that's exactly. And that's
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: when you prove that somebody is your homie because you
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: are hitting them privately about a manner that you think
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: will in the long run. You know, maybe they don't
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: understand the only reason I'm speaking on a publiclice because
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: he spoke on a publiclyas exactly. And it's like, and
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: it's very important to do that. But I do feel
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: like a lot of people stay quiet on important issues
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: or like or they do it on blasts, you know,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: like you screenshot something, oh my god, and you put
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: it to your platform. It's like you're a bitch, Like
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: you're straight up ho you know what I mean for
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: doing that, because you could really reach out to the
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: person publish, I mean privately and try to like teach
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: them about that moment and be like, hey, maybe you
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: just you know, this was a slip up. But you know,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I think right now that's what's most important and yeah,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: we need to remember what the fuck we do and
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: and and even just on some world shit. Like I said,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: like we're all human beings and like you gotta be
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: a real shitty person to see somebody die and be like,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: but what about what about this? It's like bro like like, oh,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: human being died, Like you don't but that you feel
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: me Like, but I don't know. I got a kid
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and I'll be explaining things to him and he'd just
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: be looking at me. Like last night he literally was like, so,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I'm Puerto Rican, Mexican and Dominican. I'm like, yeah, he's
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: like he just sat there and I think it was
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: just hitting him, like you know what I mean. And
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I guess I was hitting me too, because I'm like,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I'm Mexican, I grew up Mexican. My kid has all
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: these cultures, and like I teach him the Mexican side,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if he's necessarily learning, you know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the other sides, or like if he is with you
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: for the most part. Now he lives with me, yeah, yeah,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: he always has. But his dad, his dad's in his life,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: is a real good dad. But but he's very you know,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: he's a drum supporter. He's not super like Puerto Rican.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna teach him how to you know, make
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: blatanos or anything like. So I'm like, that's crazy to think,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: like our kids are gonna be raised, you know, especially
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: if they're like mixed like or or different ethnicities, like
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: learning all these things. And that's cool to me because
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: they're not going to have so many of those color lines,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: especially if they grow up just kind of like all over,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be like what you know, and so you
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: do have to teach them about what we've gone through,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: just so that they don't make the same fucking mistakes.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Because you know, how is it? How has because I
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: think the pandemic has uh you know, for me, it's
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: brought me closer to my family. But also, you know,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: both of my kids are in school and they don't
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: ever they're not ever gone. It's like, I just want
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: to I wish you all motherfuckers would go to school
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: for six hours out of the day, but they're sitting
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: at the kitchen table every fucking day for another computer
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: doing school. It's like shit, yeah, but it's like what's
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: going on? Uh yeah, I mean my kid, he loves
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: the video games and goes. He does go to his
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: dad's house sometimes, but for the most part he is
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: at my house and I'd be trying to find chores
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: for him to do. We were talking about this earlier
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: about how like with your kids, like we want to
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: spoil them because we weren't spoiled, So you want to
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: give them everything and you want to do everything for them,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: but you also don't want them to be spoiled little brats.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah you don't appreciate anything. Yeah, and not even just that,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: but like you know, a spoiled little brad turns into
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: a bitch ass dude when he grows up. And I
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: tell him all the time, i'd be like, you're not
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be a bitch ass dude when you grow up, Like,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you know right now, you better know
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: how to you know, be polite, change a tire or
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: do some shit, like when you see somebody needs help,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: help the person, you know, don't be a liar Like
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I told him, I'm like, I don't whoop your I've
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: never whooped my kids ass. Then one time when he
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: was like he deserved your little spank on his butt,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: but I've never in my life whooped my kids ass.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: But I was like, if I catch you lying or
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: like just being like that type of like, yeah, you
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: know those people that lie and from the inside you
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: could tell they're a bad person. I'm like, bro, we're
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: gonna square up one day when you grow up if
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I ever catch you, even if I don't like your
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: girlfriend or your wife in the in the future, you
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: better treat people right, you know. And he'd be just
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: laughing and shit. But I joke with him like that,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: so I think he's not gonna be a bitch ass dude.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Would you and your wife ever? I try to have
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: another baby, Yeah, bring another kid in. Yeah I want
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: a kid, which is why I'm like, you gonna carry
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: it right, because yeah, you can do adoption or you
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: can like you like like get the insimination and all that. Yeah,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: there's this there's this like advance level where it's like,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: technically it wad be my egg and like so I
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: get pregnant, but then they put it into her so
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: then she has a baby, but it's mine. And I'm like,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: that'd be literal that some pretty gangster technology, and I
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: gotta make some I gotta maybe sound much that sounds
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: very expensive. Yo, we gotta sell some CDs for that, yo.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Like I know, like now you could pick the sexier
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: baby and ship. Yeah, the ship is crazy. Yeah, it's
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: it's cool. I mean science man, That's what I'm saying. Like,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you get a bunch of human beings trying to do
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: the right thing. We might do some dope ship, but
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: where over you're fighting each other over some dumb ass shit.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: We gotta get it together. I was just telling the homie,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: you know, the biggest story I've seen on Instagram for
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: like last two weeks is the girl who used the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: gorilla glue in her hair. Oh my god. And I
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: was just like, I'm so glad that this is the
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: biggest story because politics are boring again. Yeah, exactly, Like
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: like I'll be forgetting we got a new president and
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if the fox go like you
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's so refreshing to know that,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: like I don't have to see some crazy Twitter shit
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: from Trump anymore, or like it's like the biggest shit
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: has been this girl fucking a Yeah, Like it's refreshing. Yeah,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. It's even it's like you know
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: when you have like that when you're when your relationship
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: is kind of traumatic at the beginning and then it
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: just gets kind of calm and you're just sitting there
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: watching TV together and you're just like it sounds like
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: a personal story home. Just like I'm just like sitting
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: there like, damn, it's pretty calm now, like we're not
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: going through all that fucking bullshit. It feels good. Might
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: have to raise the toxic level or in get it interesting.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Help me. So for people who are watching this, like
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: what would be some advice you would give them on
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: how to build a following the way you do? Is it?
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Because you know I always tell everybody like, yo, make
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: sure if someone hits you on the comments or DMG,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: they like like engage with them, like you know, they're
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: like the little things that matter to people, you know
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, what would be some advice you
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: would give? My advice is look and again, be a
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: good fucking person. Like, if you're a good person, you're
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: gonna do everything that you're supposed to do to connect
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: with people because you're a good person. If you're just
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: responding thank you because you want them to fucking buy
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: your shit, like you're still not a good person. So
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: that's gonna end up being your own personal hell of
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: having to fucking keep up with all this shit to
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: try to seem like you're a nice person. If you
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: genuinely care, you're gonna fucking it's gonna be easy to
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: It's easy for me to get a collage or a
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: montage made of me and me be like, oh my god,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: thank you so much, or respond to it, or give
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: somebody a call if they're in the hospital. It's easy
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: for me because I genuinely yeah. But it's like there
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: is people who like do it to fake the funk
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: and like to try to seem and it's like, you're
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: gonna get tired of that. It's not sustainable if you're
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: not a good person. So I suggest go to counseling,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: be a good person, get over your own personal traumas.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Figure out why you want to be famous. Do you
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: want to do it because you want to be famous,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: or because you have something to say, something to represent,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: a story to tell you genuinely love music, like all
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: these things. You got to figure out why you want this,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: and if you want this for the right reasons, you're
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be happy at every level of it. Because the
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: moment you make a dollar off this shit, You're like, damn,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: you know, I can't believe I'm making money doing what
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I love, you know, Whereas if you're just like I
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: want to be famous. Have you ever had a fan
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: go too far? Like a because you have some crazy
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: fans give me So you've had some actual stockers. Yeah,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I had, I guess like the worst case of that.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: It was pretty scary. I had camera like because I
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: had cameras outside, I have a gate I had to
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: get installed in my house because I had already had
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: a fan show up. Then I had a fan show up,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: and it's like I gotta wear notes and then three
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: in the morning, you know, and the fan was just
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: saying that like we have a baby together, and like
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: just on some like you know, methy type shit, but
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: he put his full name, so when I googled him,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I found meth charges. So I was just like all right,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not dealing with someone who's like coherent, So
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I was a little bit scared. I did have to
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: be like, you know, what do I do? Yeah? There
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: was like yeah, and like weird ida and then they
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: came back and then they hit me up like on Facebook,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and we're like I'm gonna like I'll be back, like
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm still near your house, and that I
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: always wonder that like being like you know, obviously a
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: female who goes on since then, but being like like
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: someone who goes on tours as as a woman, like
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: there's always this stigma as when you're a dude and
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: you're on tour, there's like groupies. Like as a female
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: who's been on so many tours, is there is there
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: like that same type of energy from the other side
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: of like like like like dudes, who who will be there?
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Like and obviously you know you have you're married now,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: But I just mean in general, like throughout your career,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: has there been like just like like male groupies, there's
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: there's that, but then there's girls who I feel like
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: it and I think every lesbian can agree with me
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: about the fact that girls sometimes almost take it a
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: little further than they should because because they think they
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: got the past. Yeah, So I think sometimes like there
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: has been things where it's like you got to remind
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: girls like hey, like you know or even like the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: whole I get that a lot, like girls being like oh,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: if you and your girl want you know, you know,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: and it's like no things, I'm good normal people like yeah.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: But but also because I don't carry myself that way.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: But you know, when when I was single, like and
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I was even having fun out there in the world,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: like I don't necessarily go after fans. Maybe it's a
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: personal choice of me. I think it's too easy, Like
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I don't really you know, it's kind of like predatory
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit, So I don't I'm not a fan
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: of that. But but definitely I've seen I've seen my
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: fair share of like weird shit, but I CrowdSurf a
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: lot and stuff, and like, I've also never really been violated.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: The only time that I did was a girl and
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: she got punched in the head. So there was I
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: think it was an Arizona actually might have been Arizona
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: or New Mexico. It was somewhere around there. But people's lit,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: who's been the wildest person that you've toured with? Because
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: you've toured with some wild dude like Rich Yeah, Ritch
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: is a maniac. Yeah, I think that. I mean I
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: haven't really toured with many people like as far as
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: like co headlining and stuff like that, or like I
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: haven't open and because with that one. It was me
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: and Ritz and Jared Ben. That was the only time
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: that and we were all three kind of like level
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: as far very kind of like yeah, and that was
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the last time that I actually toured like like that,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I would say Ritz
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: to this day, yea a maniac. He's sober, God bless him,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: you know what I now. So he needed to get
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: sober because he's fucking off the chain, wolin. And that's
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: the thing a lot of people, you know, like think,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: you know that the rock star thing is just like
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: a look and then you know you don't have to
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: deal with the repercussions, Like now we have to deal
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: with that. I had. I had to show that I
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: had to. That's when I realized, like it was right
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: before like I was gonna like publicly come out like
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: as an artist and everything, and I was just going
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: through all these things and I fucking got fucked up.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: And that made me realize like, okay, bitch, like come out,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: be happy, do whatever the fuck you gotta do to
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: never be in this position again, you know. And that's
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: also when I was leaving Atlantic, So it was kind
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: of like four things were stacked up together, and I
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: was like, holy shit, you know, so I just got
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: fucked up. And that made me be like, do whatever
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: makes you feel happy, because the misery you're feeling in
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: your fucking head is like fuck, you know, that's them
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: life changing decisions. Though you've been you play me some stuff,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: you got some dope music on the way. What is
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: like you could really do whatever you want at this point.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: You have your podcast that's going on, that's that you
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: do on YouTube live. It's like a stream. You do
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: it do you do it twice a week? I do
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: it twice a week Tuesdays and Thursdays. And then I,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you know, I vlog and I drop like songs like
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: once a month or whatever. Maybe I think I'm gonna
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: start dropping songs a little more often than that. But
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: it's like doing an album. Even interest like interests you anymore?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Is it just like you're more just doing the single
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: thing it does. The only reason that interests me is
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: because when you search me on like DSPs, you really
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: can't find anything. You know, It's like you can find
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: like some old shit, and I would like there to
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: be some sort of body of work. Yeah, because I
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: feel like the albums pop up first, yeah, so so
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: for that, But as far as like just going the
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: traditional route, it doesn't seem that interesting because it's like
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: what's gotten me to where I am is going non traditional,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: So why would I like conform to that? You know?
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I gotta genuinely admit that I
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: am torn, Like do I want to do that? Do
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I not? Maybe if I partnered it off with like
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the right people or brand to like just do that
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: and still be able to do my thing, because I'll
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: tell you, like, I don't ever plan on stopping the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: way I do things right now, Like I like this
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: it's working. Yeah, it's crazy too, because I feel like
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: you get like becoming independent when you do. It's like
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: perfect timing because like not only I feel like we're
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: in the greatest era of female MC's ever. As far
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: as just like you know, back in the day, it
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: would be like there was only room for like one
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: or two like dope female rappers and it was hard.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Like now there's like I can't even name but I
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say ever only because if you go back to
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the Miss fox a brownd But but but but even then,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: like we could name five or six. Yeah, now it's
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: like a mail had a couple of records in there
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: with Z. But yeah, it was crazy. No, Yeah, I
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: agree with you. It's like now it's like it's like
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: almost like I've just never seen like even as a kid,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: like you said, like, yeah, the Brad was crazy, functified
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: and Little Kim was was that bitch and Lauren Hill
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: and the Foujis. But now it's just like there's just
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: so much energy and I feel like we've never at
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: least I've never witnessed as far as just like the
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: totality of like the industry respecting female artists, because it
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: used to be like, yeah, you're dope, but you're like
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: dope for a girl. Who are you telling I was
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: in that you had to take all those punches. I
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: had to take those punches, bro, Like when I was
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: when I was starting to rap, I literally got told
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: by one of my peers like, let's be honest, you know,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: are you really because we were all selling CDs like
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I would sell CDs on the street, you feel me,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: like fucking hard sales. And we all finished and see
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: these out on the street or whatever, and then we
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: went and sat down and were eating and he's like,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: you know, telling me about why you know he'll be
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the one to pop off out of all of us,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: because let's be honest, no females are really ever gonna
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: pop off like that. And I just sat there and
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I and now you know that my career has gone
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: for But I did have to remind him of, like, bro, honestly,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: that affected me, like that fucked with my head for
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: years because I was just like, like do I give
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: up on this ship? Like there is only one spot,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Like you know, why would a Mexican girl be the
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: one to fucking do this? You know, like it doesn't
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: matter that you're dope, Like people will probably not care,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: you know. And I'm glad I kept going. But I'm
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: so happy for where music is right now. You know.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I'm happy that independent artists can drop music however the
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: fuck they want. That there is more respect for fast
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: rappers because even that as well. For a long time,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: if you rap fast, and you'll never have a hit record,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: you know. And now it's like you hear Jack Carlow,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: you hear anybody who's rapping a little bit faster, and
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you're like, okay, bet like there is that or now
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: there's female rappers, and now there's more Mexicans and Latino
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: is one of the biggest fucking genres. Like all these
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: things are a culmination or like LGBT community is now
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: so much more accepted and like people are literally looking
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: for LGBT representation. So to me, it's like, it's crazy
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: that all these things that for years held me back
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: and that are so authentically me are now accepted. You
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: can only imagine how happy I am that this is
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: the case, because this is what I wanted, you know
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: what I mean. Other than that, I'm like, I'm good,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not starving, I'm living pretty good. Yeah, Like it's
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: crazy because it lined up perfectly because you could do
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: what you want now you could like fully take advantage
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: of that now without worry, not even that as much
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: as like, for example, the Mexican thing, like I said,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I did it out of the necessity. If there's no
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: necessity anymore than bet like I'm good you I could
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: just do I literally have no pressure to do that
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: because before when I would be like Mexican, Mexican, Mexican,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: and then the song that I wouldn't people be like,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: why isn't she repping or why isn't she doing this?
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: And I'd be like, what the fuck? I literally did
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: that shit this whole time. So now I'm kind of
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: like cool, I could ease up on all these fucking
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: things that I'm so angry that I want to represent
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: and be like, I just want to be happy. I
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: just want to live. I want to make an R
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: and B song if I fucking want, and whether I
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: can sing it or not, bitch, I'm gonna have a
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: blast doing it, you know. And that's it. I feel
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: good about it. That's dope. Well do you have anything?
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: You just dropped? The record shut up? Yeah? And videos
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: out right? The videos out yeah, shut up? And I
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: got a bunch of different records. I showed you some
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: of the shit. I definitely. I'm just having fun being
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: able to do whatever I want, dropping merch, dropping mad merch,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: vlogging with my girlfriend and my family, making music videos,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: editing like I like, I'm doing what I love and
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: having a fun. Okay, so is your girlfriend your girlfriend
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: or your wife? Because you got a big ass on
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: your face, this is an engagement r Okay. Okay, I'm
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: not just saying to ask because I think that's that thing.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Don't look like an engagement ring. She's not fiance, but
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I guess yeah, this is that's a fucking major rock
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: right there. That's yeah man. She I mean she makes
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: a check off tour, so everybody does around me, so
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: when they they what they want to do with it.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: If she decided to give me a ring, Hey, man,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: have you are you like getting antsied like not touring
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: because I feel like you're always kind of doing shows
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: right so, like there hasn't been any touring for the
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: past year. I'm not gonna lie. Like if you asked
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: me three years ago, like yo, if there was ever
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: a time when you couldn't tour at all, what would
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: you do? I'd literally tell you I was going to
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: start to death, Like I'd literally think, what's my life
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: going to be without that? I think I needed this
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: to realize I'm not like you good like you could
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: take a fuck a break like chili fuck also kind
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: of like makes you kind of figure out some other
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: shit to do. Yeah, well, I had announced end of
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen that twenty twenty I wasn't gonna tour, like
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I literally had. My last post of twenty nineteen or
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: one of my last posts was me saying, you know,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I've consistently toured for all these years. I do think
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I need a you know, like a break, take a
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: little break and relax for a second. Because it was
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: always my mind was always on, Okay, I'm home for
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: five months, I'm going back on the road. I got
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: these many months to do all this shit and then
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: bam on back on the road. So I was always
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: like that I wanted to buy a ranch. That was
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: always my dream. I wanted to fucking fix it up
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: and do all these things. So this was a it
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: was a godsend to me personally. I mean, obviously it's
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: not it's not a good situation for the world, but
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I just felt like, at least I've been able to
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: be home, I've been able to work on the ranch,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: and I'm I'll be ready when well. You kind of
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: noticed the artists that like are like, there's artists that
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: need to be able to hit the road or do
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: the club shows and and don't really have anything else
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: because their fans maybe not be like, you know, like
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the fact that you like Pivoted and did Yo. I'm
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: gonna do a podcast where you can subscribe on YouTube,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna drop music and like, not everybody
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: can do that. Not everyone's built like that. I guess
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: not everybody you ever can. You've interviewed people with oh yeah,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: you're here. You know, there's motherfuckers that gotta have people
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: telling them what to say, what to do, don't do this,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: don't look like that. Why because there's people that literally
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: are getting coach because deep down inside, bruh, you are.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: You got the personality of a fucking yeah, like you've
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: had so many of those, you know what I mean.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: So it's like there is like like I was saying,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: like lately, whenever I get because I get asked a
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: lot by independent artists like you know, give me advice,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, bro, real ship, it starts from your core,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: like be a good person, actually love this shit, Like
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: do what makes you feel happy, Like do what you enjoy,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: because then you'll build you'll build a fan base around
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: the things you enjoy. If you like playing video games
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: and do that, because then you'll have a blast doing it.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: You know, if you like animals, fucking blog about animals,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: like whatever you want to do that weird ass like
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: trying that old industry plant style of doing shit is
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: just like we're just doing unorganic ship that you don't
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: want to like, you know, and it's like clear loud. Yeah.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: So you say you have a ranch, does that mean
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: you have animals? Uh No, right now I just have
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: three dogs. I do have a ten horse stable, but
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: right now we're kind of converting that because I'm using
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: it as storage for for a while. We could have horses.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: It's it's definitely equestrian a state or whatever the fuck.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: So if you wanted horses, you could run it up. Yeah, definitely,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: just like right now, we just got a TV for what, Like,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: why the you're you gonna do? They require a lot
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: of attention, yeah, you know, and I'd be seeing them, honestly.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Some of my neighbors have them, and I'm like, what
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the fuck did you buy a fucking horse for him
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: to be all sad and depressed right there? Like I'm like,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, you should get rid of
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: that horse because it's depressing me. Like I'm gonna build
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: a fucking fence like Trump or something and be like, Yo,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of seeing your depressed skinny ass horse. Shout
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: out to the depressed skinny ass horses. No skinny horses
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: in La County. Boom, Well, look, I appreciate you pulling up.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Thank you, man. We had an interesting day. There'll be
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: an Elk Boys prank coming out in a few weeks.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that people will see h H. By the way,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: so thank you for pulling up. Go stream her music,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Go check out her YouTube. What's the name of the podcast?
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Every day? Well every night nights? Okay, so every night nights,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: go do that and uh and then you might be
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: on Twitch soon, you were saying with your kid, maybe
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: playing some video games. Yeah, well, we don't know what
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: the fuck we're doing. I know I'll pop up on
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: your studio and we gotta work on some music. We
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: gotta we gotta figure out some some unorthodox ways of
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: getting this industry riled up. Because that's that's my that's
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: my next plan is just good job fucking ship up.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Boom