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- 0:03Speaker 1: It is Monday, October twentieth. This is check Wars Happy Hour.
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- 0:27Speaker 2: And you turn yourself around. I'm running on four hours
- 0:30Speaker 2: of sleep, so all the jokes are funny to me today.
- 0:32Speaker 2: I'm kay Nanni. Stephen's in for JP Shadreck who's still
- 0:35Speaker 2: across the pond enjoying his time in London. The team
- 0:38Speaker 2: traveled back last night, so we're here to talk all
- 0:40Speaker 2: about whatever it was that we saw at Wembley Stadium yesterday.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Welcome into the Honday Studios. It's Happy Hour here on
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- 0:53Speaker 2: As I mentioned, it was a blowout at Wembley Stadium
- 0:55Speaker 2: in London and that was troubling, to say the least.
- 0:58Speaker 2: One positive from the day, we're gonna say Travis Hunter
- 1:00Speaker 2: got his first touchdown. We saw a little bit of
- 1:02Speaker 2: what he can do on offense finally, which has been exciting.
- 1:05Speaker 2: We're gonna keep it real with you as we always do,
- 1:07Speaker 2: and we'll answer some of your fan questions because I
- 1:09Speaker 2: think there's a lot of them as we head into
- 1:11Speaker 2: the bye week. So I want to welcome to CBS
- 1:13Speaker 2: Sports senior writer Pete Prisco. Austin Lane's gonna join us
- 1:15Speaker 2: a little bit later. Butte, you had to get up
- 1:18Speaker 2: early and watch it in the morning on Sunday, and
- 1:21Speaker 2: it looked looked a little sleepy to start, and it
- 1:23Speaker 2: didn't get much better after that. For the Jaguars, it
- 1:26Speaker 2: was bad.
- 1:26Speaker 3: I mean it was really bad.
- 1:28Speaker 4: And I thought they would come out and at least
- 1:31Speaker 4: show some fight.
- 1:32Speaker 3: That's a good RAMS team, by the way, it really is.
- 1:34Speaker 3: It's a good Rams team.
- 1:35Speaker 4: But they just didn't do anything, and I was disappointed
- 1:39Speaker 4: right from the get go on.
- 1:41Speaker 3: The offensive performance was awful, you know, and we got
- 1:45Speaker 3: a lot to get into. But you know, the quarterback
- 1:47Speaker 3: is becoming a problem, I think.
- 1:48Speaker 4: And it wasn't awful, but when you're that guy, you're
- 1:55Speaker 4: supposed to be above that.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're supposed to.
- 1:58Speaker 4: Be better than that, right, I mean, he's to me,
- 2:01Speaker 4: I there's and we'll get into some of the plays,
- 2:04Speaker 4: but he passes on opportunities down the field. I think
- 2:07Speaker 4: he leaves some clean pockets and there's no rhythm to
- 2:11Speaker 4: the offense. They have pre stat penalties, they drop passes,
- 2:16Speaker 4: you know, Brian Thomas Junior's a problem, and all in all,
- 2:20Speaker 4: it's just not a good look on the offensive side
- 2:22Speaker 4: of the football right now.
- 2:24Speaker 2: And for a team that we thought was going to
- 2:26Speaker 2: be explosive on offense coming to with Liam Cohen going
- 2:29Speaker 2: up against obviously a mentor a former coach he worked
- 2:31Speaker 2: with in Sean McVay. I was leary of this matchup anyway,
- 2:34Speaker 2: but to be that cold coming out, and I think
- 2:37Speaker 2: we just talked about this before the show started. That
- 2:39Speaker 2: first play out of the gate, you see Travis Hunter
- 2:42Speaker 2: wide open, Trevor looks like he goes through maybe two
- 2:44Speaker 2: reads and then the guy's right on him. But throw
- 2:47Speaker 2: the ball. And he said so as much after the
- 2:49Speaker 2: game when the press was asking him questions after he said,
- 2:51Speaker 2: I missed that play myself. But if you're coming out
- 2:53Speaker 2: in the first play, that's tough. And then also just
- 2:56Speaker 2: having the confidence in your quarterback right off the gate,
- 2:58Speaker 2: like oh, maybe he's not ready either. Yeah.
- 3:01Speaker 4: See he's trying to throw to Brian Thomas there, but
- 3:04Speaker 4: he's got to stay there because he can clearly see
- 3:06Speaker 4: the corner sinking and he's got to take that shot.
- 3:08Speaker 3: That little quick throw to Travis Hunter. That's easy. There
- 3:12Speaker 3: were a couple others.
- 3:13Speaker 4: There's one he tried a short throw to Brian Thomas
- 3:16Speaker 4: later in the game.
- 3:17Speaker 3: It was a quick, you know, throw to the.
- 3:20Speaker 4: Sideline where they did it in and out and he's
- 3:23Speaker 4: got Travis Hunter standing right there for nobody's near him,
- 3:27Speaker 4: and he doesn't and he doesn't throw to him. There's
- 3:29Speaker 4: also a play where okay, the one where Brian.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Thomas Junior dropped it in the middle of the field.
- 3:35Speaker 4: That's that's that's a good throw, should be a catch,
- 3:39Speaker 4: but he's got Travis Hunter up the field for a
- 3:41Speaker 4: touchdown on that play if he throws it and Travis
- 3:44Speaker 4: Hunter started jumping.
- 3:45Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys saw it in the stadium,
- 3:47Speaker 3: but he started.
- 3:47Speaker 4: I watched the tape that they started jumping around frustrated
- 3:50Speaker 4: by it. So you know, the checkdown to second and
- 3:55Speaker 4: fifteen or whatever. It was early in the game when
- 3:57Speaker 4: he checked it down to Travis. Et added is batted
- 4:00Speaker 4: down at the line of scrimmage. He's got two corner
- 4:03Speaker 4: routes he can take whichever one he wants to, and
- 4:05Speaker 4: he doesn't throw him. So there is concern about the
- 4:09Speaker 4: quarterback and his ability to.
- 4:13Speaker 3: Get to the better play than the easier play.
- 4:16Speaker 4: And by that, I mean it's easy to take that
- 4:18Speaker 4: quick throw to the outside, but you know, sometimes you
- 4:21Speaker 4: got to wait and let the big play come to
- 4:23Speaker 4: you and throw that one.
- 4:24Speaker 3: So I just it was unsettling yesterday to watch that offense.
- 4:29Speaker 3: It really was.
- 4:30Speaker 2: Pete Austin Lane's in with us now. Austin we're just
- 4:32Speaker 2: talking a little bit about a lot of stuff to
- 4:34Speaker 2: get to because there's a lot of stuff we didn't
- 4:35Speaker 2: love to see yesterday, but some of the decision making
- 4:37Speaker 2: from Trevor Lawrence. I don't want to put it all
- 4:40Speaker 2: on him because I know there's plenty of blame to
- 4:41Speaker 2: go around, but it is frustrating at times. And we
- 4:44Speaker 2: talked about that first play where he's not making the
- 4:45Speaker 2: throat of Travis Center, and then there's frustration from other
- 4:47Speaker 2: players on the field.
- 4:48Speaker 5: You can see, Yeah, you know, I think listen, I
- 4:51Speaker 5: don't go on social media a lot, right, but there's
- 4:54Speaker 5: but there's a civil war right now going on between
- 4:57Speaker 5: is Trevor Lawrence the guy or not? Right? I think
- 5:00Speaker 5: a lot of the narrative is, okay, well, guys are
- 5:01Speaker 5: dropping balls, right the offensive line is not blockingly they're
- 5:04Speaker 5: supposed to, and I agree with all of that, But
- 5:07Speaker 5: I think the conversation we have to have now is
- 5:09Speaker 5: is Trevor Lawrence capable of elevating the guys around him?
- 5:13Speaker 5: And right now, right now, I don't think he is.
- 5:16Speaker 5: And if you look at how much he's making, and
- 5:17Speaker 5: it's not about the money. Sometimes you've probably attested to this,
- 5:20Speaker 5: but it's what the money says, right, and the money
- 5:22Speaker 5: says right now, he's getting paid top five in the league.
- 5:26Speaker 5: That's Jared goff Numbers, that's Dak Prescott, that's Patch Mahomes,
- 5:31Speaker 5: that's Joe Burrow, that's you know, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert.
- 5:35Speaker 5: I think those guys I just mentioned are capable of
- 5:38Speaker 5: elevating their team when things aren't going right, when offensive
- 5:42Speaker 5: lines aren't blocking, when guys are dropping balls. I think
- 5:45Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence right now isn't in that category. And until
- 5:49Speaker 5: he is, he's gonna need the offensive line to block
- 5:52Speaker 5: their you know, one off. He's gonna need the running
- 5:55Speaker 5: game to do their part. He's gonna need the right
- 5:58Speaker 5: play calling. He's gonna need everything to go right for
- 6:01Speaker 5: him to be successful. And that's just what it is
- 6:03Speaker 5: right now.
- 6:05Speaker 4: And you know, Austin, I watched the tape today and
- 6:08Speaker 4: there are so many opportunities for him that he passes
- 6:12Speaker 4: up on that I don't understand and and I don't
- 6:15Speaker 4: and I was we were just talking before he came
- 6:17Speaker 4: on about the checkdown to Travis etn that was batted
- 6:23Speaker 4: down to the line of scrimmage on the second or fourteen.
- 6:25Speaker 4: He's got two corner routes against cover two, so you
- 6:28Speaker 4: can take your pick.
- 6:29Speaker 3: The corners haven't sunk far enough. So if you can
- 6:32Speaker 3: hold one of, you know, hold the safety a little,
- 6:34Speaker 3: you can put it on the you know, put it
- 6:35Speaker 3: to the He didn't. He passed on him, took the checkdown,
- 6:38Speaker 3: you know he had. There was an in and out
- 6:40Speaker 3: route with with Brian Thomas lined up inside it. Travis Hunter.
- 6:43Speaker 3: Thomas ran the out, Hunter ran the in. He's wide open.
- 6:47Speaker 3: He throws the travel to Brian Thomas on the side.
- 6:49Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's just so many things right now that
- 6:53Speaker 4: he's missing, and you can't do.
- 6:56Speaker 3: That in this league. You know that. And you've mentioned
- 6:58Speaker 3: the money.
- 6:59Speaker 4: Look, they paid him, they thought he was a franchise quarterback,
- 7:05Speaker 4: and he's the elevating everybody else.
- 7:07Speaker 3: No, I agree with you one hundred percent.
- 7:09Speaker 4: And so that's where the sticking point is, and that's
- 7:11Speaker 4: why people are pushing back now on whether he's the problem.
- 7:15Speaker 4: I don't think he's the entire problem, by the way.
- 7:17Speaker 4: I mean, you can't get into a rhythm on this
- 7:18Speaker 4: offense at all, with drop passes and pre snap penalties
- 7:23Speaker 4: and holding penalties and everything else.
- 7:25Speaker 3: So it just adds to the frustration.
- 7:27Speaker 4: But he's got to be better than he is well,
- 7:30Speaker 4: and at some point they got to wonder if they
- 7:32Speaker 4: have an issue on their hands with their quarterback.
- 7:34Speaker 5: And here's the thing, and I get it. I'm not
- 7:36Speaker 5: making up excuses for the offensive line not doing their part.
- 7:40Speaker 5: You know, the running game was really nonexistent, even though
- 7:42Speaker 5: I felt like you know, etn and there's more. You know,
- 7:44Speaker 5: it was kind of garbage time. But I question in
- 7:47Speaker 5: terms of what the game plan was going into that game,
- 7:50Speaker 5: because so far we've seen when they run the football
- 7:53Speaker 5: they're successful. If defense is shut the run game down.
- 7:56Speaker 5: You can't rely on Trevor's arm and this passing offense
- 8:00Speaker 5: to get the job done. And it's as simple as that.
- 8:02Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is both things can be true here, Pete.
- 8:05Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence right now doesn't have the capabilities to elevate
- 8:08Speaker 5: the guys around him, and he's getting no help in
- 8:10Speaker 5: terms of offensive line, in terms of wide receivers and
- 8:13Speaker 5: then drops everything like that, Like, both things can be true,
- 8:16Speaker 5: and that's what people don't realize. Like everyone wants to
- 8:18Speaker 5: take one side and stick on that side, and that's
- 8:20Speaker 5: not how it has to be. But the fact of
- 8:22Speaker 5: the matter is is he's getting paid like a high caliber,
- 8:27Speaker 5: elite quarterback in this league, and right now he's not
- 8:30Speaker 5: playing like it.
- 8:32Speaker 2: And we'll talk a little bit about the drops later on,
- 8:35Speaker 2: but offensive line play has dropped off very quickly. I
- 8:38Speaker 2: don't know if that's just injury based or what's going on, Pete.
- 8:40Speaker 3: I'm sure you get dream based.
- 8:43Speaker 4: I think the right right guard has become a problem.
- 8:47Speaker 4: McCarry has become a prim They paid him money to
- 8:49Speaker 4: come in there and be the right guard in the
- 8:50Speaker 4: last three four game, three games not been very good.
- 8:53Speaker 4: He was terrible on Sunday and he was the main problem.
- 8:57Speaker 4: Now Little two weeks ago was terrible and in fact,
- 9:00Speaker 4: the whole last week, by the way, we didn't have
- 9:02Speaker 4: a show.
- 9:03Speaker 2: You haven't had a chance to get in on.
- 9:04Speaker 4: The Seattle game was one of the worst offensive line
- 9:07Speaker 4: performances I've ever seen.
- 9:09Speaker 3: They were awful. And you know who the best one
- 9:10Speaker 3: was the rookie center was the best time. Yeah, yeah,
- 9:14Speaker 3: And so they were terrible yesterday it was McCarry was bad.
- 9:19Speaker 4: Harrison didn't have a great game, and I don't know
- 9:20Speaker 4: if that's bleeding over from him being there next to
- 9:23Speaker 4: him and Little had he struggled like he did two
- 9:26Speaker 4: weeks ago. But I think, you know, the right guard,
- 9:30Speaker 4: they might need to look at making a change there.
- 9:32Speaker 4: And sounds crazy, and I know it's early in the season,
- 9:36Speaker 4: but the last two weeks have been really bad for him.
- 9:39Speaker 5: You're not wrong, but I think the question has to
- 9:41Speaker 5: be then. I mean, because it's not just the right guard.
- 9:43Speaker 5: The entire offensive line right now is a little porous.
- 9:45Speaker 5: And then you want to see but you talk about
- 9:48Speaker 5: a decision too, And because I haven't seen you in
- 9:50Speaker 5: a while, Pete, Hey, by the way, it's great to
- 9:51Speaker 5: see you, man, but yeah, for sure, for sure you
- 9:55Speaker 5: miss j by the way. Oh no, skip a beat.
- 9:59Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. But you talk about like a decision like
- 10:02Speaker 5: trading Campbell to Cleveland, right, because maybe he didn't fit
- 10:06Speaker 5: this scheme, maybe he wasn't playing up to the standard
- 10:09Speaker 5: and expectations were set forth right. So if I'm a
- 10:13Speaker 5: player in that locker room, I go, Okay, Wow, they
- 10:15Speaker 5: just trade a Tyson Campbell way who wasn't maybe playing
- 10:17Speaker 5: his best ball, but still I think a pretty beloved
- 10:19Speaker 5: guy in that locker room. So it goes to show you, Okay,
- 10:22Speaker 5: players got to play better. Well, now you have an
- 10:25Speaker 5: entire offensive line that has taken steps back, that doesn't
- 10:27Speaker 5: seem to really be doing their job to the best
- 10:29Speaker 5: of their abilities. Like this bye week, I felt like,
- 10:32Speaker 5: and I said this in the pregame show, it can
- 10:34Speaker 5: go one of two ways. You can win this RAMS
- 10:37Speaker 5: game and all of a sudden, Okay, get some resk,
- 10:39Speaker 5: get some much needed relaxation. Or you can put the
- 10:42Speaker 5: performance that you put out there and now it's like
- 10:44Speaker 5: everything's on the table. And when you have an extra week,
- 10:47Speaker 5: I think you have to establish like okay, which of
- 10:49Speaker 5: these guys are meeting our standard right now that we
- 10:50Speaker 5: can coach to meet our standard, and which guys can't
- 10:53Speaker 5: meet it.
- 10:54Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a lot of discussion in
- 10:56Speaker 2: this bye week exactly what this team is going to
- 10:59Speaker 2: look like going forward to You know, James Gladstone isn't
- 11:01Speaker 2: afraid to make a move, so there may be that
- 11:02Speaker 2: in play as well. But these penalties are killing me
- 11:08Speaker 2: and just the frustration of and I'm sure this is
- 11:11Speaker 2: affecting play calling because they're getting all these penalties in
- 11:13Speaker 2: there all of a sudden, it's first and fifteen, first
- 11:15Speaker 2: and twenty, but you can't even get anything going and
- 11:18Speaker 2: they're already behind the sticks.
- 11:20Speaker 3: Well it's you know, the holding penalties. Those happen. So
- 11:24Speaker 3: the pre snap ones drive me up a wall. Getting
- 11:26Speaker 3: lined up right.
- 11:27Speaker 4: And coming to the line of scrimmage in the play
- 11:31Speaker 4: clock going down and you're changing the play. You know,
- 11:34Speaker 4: you're a quarterback. You can't do that. You got to
- 11:36Speaker 4: run the play, you can't change it. You got or
- 11:39Speaker 4: call time out one or the other. And so there's
- 11:42Speaker 4: too much of that, and I think a lot of
- 11:43Speaker 4: that has to do with, well, Travis Hunter has problems
- 11:46Speaker 4: lining up. We know that that's been an issue, and
- 11:49Speaker 4: that might be because you know so much on his
- 11:52Speaker 4: play that's hard to get it all down. So but
- 11:55Speaker 4: they have to use him on office because he's such
- 11:57Speaker 4: a playmate growing off and we saw that on Sunday,
- 12:00Speaker 4: so they have to get into that.
- 12:02Speaker 3: Also.
- 12:03Speaker 4: You know when you look at Trevor, Trevor doesn't ever
- 12:06Speaker 4: feel like he's in that control state, you.
- 12:09Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
- 12:09Speaker 4: He's always looking over let's see, let's get the play
- 12:12Speaker 4: call in instead of you know, he's not telling them
- 12:15Speaker 4: give me the play, give me the p let's go,
- 12:16Speaker 4: let's go, and if you don't.
- 12:18Speaker 3: Get it in a time, go to the line and
- 12:19Speaker 3: call something. Just run it.
- 12:20Speaker 2: There's no flowing, it doesn't feel any.
- 12:22Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing. There's no flow to the offense at all.
- 12:25Speaker 5: So this situation, and it's something that I didn't even
- 12:28Speaker 5: think about going into this year, but now that I'm
- 12:31Speaker 5: seeing it come to pruition, it makes a little more sense.
- 12:33Speaker 5: So it reminds me of when I went to Kansas
- 12:36Speaker 5: City from Jacksonville. This is back in twenty thirteen. We
- 12:39Speaker 5: won two games the previous year. Gus Bradley comes in,
- 12:42Speaker 5: I go to Kansas City and you Read's first year there,
- 12:45Speaker 5: they also won two games. But it's like this locker
- 12:48Speaker 5: room doesn't feel like a team that just had a
- 12:50Speaker 5: two game, you know, win season. Like you had seasoned veterans.
- 12:54Speaker 5: You had the Eric Berryes, the tom Ba ah Lea's,
- 12:56Speaker 5: the Justin Houston's, Alex Smith on offense, Jamal Charles, Dwayne
- 12:59Speaker 5: bo Like, you had a bunch of guys that you
- 13:01Speaker 5: got there and seem like, you know what this this
- 13:03Speaker 5: whatever happened last year, happened last year, but this team
- 13:05Speaker 5: is going to be special. I look at what Liam
- 13:08Speaker 5: Cohen came from in Tampa and he turned it around
- 13:11Speaker 5: in one year. But you look at the guys that
- 13:13Speaker 5: he had on that roster. You had Mike Evans, you
- 13:16Speaker 5: had Chris Godwin, you had an offensive line that had
- 13:18Speaker 5: Super Bowl caliber experience. You have guys like Tristan Wirfs
- 13:21Speaker 5: who are some considered some of the best offensive line
- 13:24Speaker 5: linemen in the entire NFL. And you had that there
- 13:27Speaker 5: in Tampa. And then you come here with Brian Thomas
- 13:31Speaker 5: Junior who's still very young, Travis Hunter is still learning
- 13:33Speaker 5: the position, Parker Washington is still very young, and I
- 13:36Speaker 5: just wonder if Liam Cohen came here expecting I can run.
- 13:39Speaker 5: I ran in Tampa, and now he's starting to realize, like,
- 13:43Speaker 5: this group of guys still has to learn how to
- 13:44Speaker 5: play the game the right way as opposed to having
- 13:46Speaker 5: the veterans that you had with the Buccaneers.
- 13:48Speaker 3: Because it's a very complicated offense.
- 13:50Speaker 4: It is, And I talked to Baker Mayfield about that
- 13:52Speaker 4: offense in the spring and he said, look, there's a
- 13:55Speaker 4: lot on your plate at the line of scrimmage and
- 13:57Speaker 4: you have to be good at that. And by the way,
- 14:01Speaker 4: we talk about wurfs and the receivers and Mike Evans,
- 14:04Speaker 4: the biggest difference is Baker Mayfield compared to Trevor Lawrence.
- 14:09Speaker 4: That's the biggest difference right now. Baker knows how to
- 14:12Speaker 4: run the offense. Baker has that swagger that it did
- 14:16Speaker 4: players respond to them? Do the players respond to Trevor?
- 14:19Speaker 4: I mean, that's a legitimate question. And by the way,
- 14:22Speaker 4: I love Trevor. I think he's a great kid. He's
- 14:24Speaker 4: got a ton of talent.
- 14:26Speaker 3: But right now, it's just you know, sometimes you go, yeah,
- 14:30Speaker 3: it's great or it's bad, you know what it is?
- 14:33Speaker 3: Right now, it just is that's all it is.
- 14:35Speaker 4: It's right in the middle. Yeah, it's not great, it's
- 14:38Speaker 4: not awful, it just is. And when you're that guy,
- 14:41Speaker 4: it's got to be much better than just is.
- 14:43Speaker 5: And you know, and like without having to be a
- 14:45Speaker 5: therapist as a head coach. But I think this could
- 14:47Speaker 5: be the problem that you had with the last regime
- 14:49Speaker 5: where they didn't really know how to get through to
- 14:52Speaker 5: their quarterback. And I think you have Liam Cohen now.
- 14:54Speaker 5: And I agree with you, Pete, I agree with you
- 14:55Speaker 5: both of you where you go from Baker Mayfield, who
- 14:59Speaker 5: I feel like has a lot of the same characteristics
- 15:01Speaker 5: of Liam Cohen, right, Like Liam Cohen's not afraid to
- 15:04Speaker 5: sales up to Robert Sala on the sidelines after the game. Well,
- 15:06Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield's not afraid to go to the stands before
- 15:09Speaker 5: the game and you know, say what he says, then
- 15:11Speaker 5: come out the second half and be like I told you, right, So,
- 15:14Speaker 5: I think they have a lot of the same characteristics.
- 15:16Speaker 5: You don't necessarily see that with Trevor not saying that's
- 15:19Speaker 5: a bad thing. I mean, I would rather have you
- 15:21Speaker 5: be yourself than put on a facade and be something
- 15:24Speaker 5: that you're not. But I still think it's on Liam
- 15:26Speaker 5: Cohen of you gotta find out what makes Trevor Lawrence
- 15:29Speaker 5: taking trying to get the best out of him.
- 15:30Speaker 4: It's about getting I called fire into belly. Yeah, I mean,
- 15:34Speaker 4: does he have fire in the belly? I mean, that's
- 15:37Speaker 4: the question. Somebody asked me this the other day.
- 15:39Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody in the league and they
- 15:40Speaker 3: saw the end of the game against the Chiefs on
- 15:42Speaker 3: Monday Night Football, and they showed the celebration in the
- 15:45Speaker 3: locker room and it.
- 15:47Speaker 4: Was almost like, Okay, you know, you just beat the
- 15:50Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs and he he.
- 15:52Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 15:53Speaker 2: It's just I think than some of the yeah Fyers
- 15:57Speaker 2: can be it's wrong to say that.
- 15:59Speaker 3: Do you guys agree with me? No?
- 16:00Speaker 2: I think I can see that as well. And I
- 16:02Speaker 2: feel like when we talk about Liam Cohen's energy, right,
- 16:05Speaker 2: he's someone that you want to play for. Coach Campanila
- 16:06Speaker 2: is somebody you want to like, really go out there
- 16:08Speaker 2: and play for. And sometimes you need your teammates to
- 16:10Speaker 2: be like, I, Oh, that guy's busting his butt on
- 16:13Speaker 2: every single play. I'm going to do the same thing.
- 16:15Speaker 2: And I think sometimes depending where it is, you don't
- 16:18Speaker 2: always get that and then the energy's not there from
- 16:21Speaker 2: the players. But that was our opening drive, present to
- 16:24Speaker 2: you by Target zero. Let's get everyone home safely. We
- 16:26Speaker 2: are just beginning. There is a ton to get, too
- 16:28Speaker 2: much more to come here. We're going to talk a
- 16:30Speaker 2: little bit about those penalties, what they looked like out
- 16:33Speaker 2: of the gate after spending the whole week in the UK.
- 16:36Speaker 2: So this is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.
- 16:46Speaker 6: You wouldn't have guessed that we were here for a week, prepared,
- 16:50Speaker 6: ready to go play in this atmosphere by looking at
- 16:55Speaker 6: it in terms of the way we started the game.
- 17:00Speaker 2: Certainly would not have guests. This is Jaguars Happy Hour
- 17:02Speaker 2: kind of Onie sevens in for j P, Shadrick, Austin Lane,
- 17:04Speaker 2: Pete Prisco with me Pete. They went out there, they
- 17:07Speaker 2: heard the sports science was good. They needed to go
- 17:09Speaker 2: you know early, to get acclimated to the time. And
- 17:12Speaker 2: the rams flew in about you know, day of practically
- 17:15Speaker 2: and looked like they'd been there all week. It looked
- 17:17Speaker 2: like the flip flop of what you would have thought.
- 17:20Speaker 4: Look at you, you had four hours of sleep and
- 17:21Speaker 4: you're already out doing JP Every Monday.
- 17:23Speaker 2: So when you got that doesn't take much JP.
- 17:28Speaker 4: I mean, look, the bottom line is, I don't know
- 17:31Speaker 4: if there's a right way or wrong way to do that.
- 17:33Speaker 4: You got to go play.
- 17:34Speaker 3: Football, and Austin.
- 17:36Speaker 4: You know that you've traveled across the country to play games.
- 17:38Speaker 4: Once you get inside the white lines, you get hit
- 17:41Speaker 4: the mouth, you go play. Yeah, and sure it's different,
- 17:44Speaker 4: it's a challenge, but I don't know if there's a
- 17:46Speaker 4: right way or a wrong way to do that. I mean,
- 17:49Speaker 4: you guys were there the whole week by Sunday where
- 17:52Speaker 4: you rejuvenated and feeling good.
- 17:55Speaker 2: I was ready to leave by then, but I did
- 17:59Speaker 2: feel better, like I do say when we go sometimes
- 18:01Speaker 2: we've gone on Thursday and you play on Sunday, right
- 18:03Speaker 2: that first day or two, you don't feel great. So
- 18:06Speaker 2: I think that's what they were trying to avoid. But
- 18:09Speaker 2: for me, I was just surprised, like the effort didn't
- 18:10Speaker 2: really feel there right. And I know you can always
- 18:12Speaker 2: you know, there's times where people start slow and what
- 18:14Speaker 2: have you have not. This was a huge game for
- 18:16Speaker 2: Liam Cohen going up against and James Gladfins done for
- 18:19Speaker 2: that matter too. Obviously this they're both from the Rams, organization.
- 18:21Speaker 2: This is what they want to model their product after,
- 18:24Speaker 2: and to go out there and really just feels like
- 18:26Speaker 2: they didn't show up for their coach a little bit.
- 18:28Speaker 2: I don't know if it's that simple. I don't think
- 18:30Speaker 2: they were quitting on their coach by any means, but
- 18:31Speaker 2: just to kind of know how big of a game
- 18:33Speaker 2: this was to him and just kind of not see
- 18:35Speaker 2: the effort right away was probably really frustrating.
- 18:38Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to put a lot
- 18:40Speaker 5: of steak into whether you left on Friday, whether you
- 18:43Speaker 5: got a weekend or not. I mean, I think there's
- 18:46Speaker 5: arguments for both cases, you know. I mean, I think
- 18:48Speaker 5: the argument against it would be, well, you had a
- 18:50Speaker 5: lot of guys banged up what they had been better
- 18:52Speaker 5: sipping in their own beds, kind of doing what they
- 18:54Speaker 5: they're familiarly do in terms of treatment and everything, and
- 18:57Speaker 5: staying in Jacksonville. They chose to leave early, like at
- 19:00Speaker 5: the end of the day, that's that's not what happened.
- 19:02Speaker 5: That's not why they they look like they look like
- 19:04Speaker 5: right like. And now I'm sure team's gonna be like, well,
- 19:06Speaker 5: look what the Rams did. Now we have to copy
- 19:08Speaker 5: that whole thing. No, that's that's not the case at all.
- 19:10Speaker 5: It's just I think one team played sound football and
- 19:14Speaker 5: and one team just looked looked a little more laxadaisical
- 19:17Speaker 5: and and didn't do their job like they're supposed to.
- 19:20Speaker 4: Well, here's the other part of that equation, though, the Rams,
- 19:23Speaker 4: when they play an East Coast game travel what five hours?
- 19:27Speaker 3: It is probably, isn't it? Yeah? Five six hours?
- 19:30Speaker 4: Yeah, so if there they stayed on the East Coast,
- 19:33Speaker 4: they after play in the Ravens, So that was a
- 19:35Speaker 4: normal road trip for them when they like going when
- 19:39Speaker 4: they go.
- 19:40Speaker 3: Yeah, so it wasn't any different, So it made sense
- 19:42Speaker 3: for them to do it that way. I didn't. I
- 19:44Speaker 3: didn't mind that at all, to be honest with you.
- 19:47Speaker 3: But I'm with Austin.
- 19:48Speaker 4: Look, whether you go early, or go or go the
- 19:52Speaker 4: night before the game or whatever, once you get out
- 19:54Speaker 4: on the field, you go play.
- 19:55Speaker 3: You can't you know, our legs. Did anybody say their
- 19:58Speaker 3: legs weren't there?
- 20:00Speaker 4: Didn hear that?
- 20:01Speaker 3: You know? I mean, so I don't. I don't. They
- 20:04Speaker 3: can't use that as an excuse at all.
- 20:05Speaker 2: I think travel is always kind of the excuse when
- 20:08Speaker 2: you don't play the way you want way you want
- 20:09Speaker 2: to play, but I don't think it came down to
- 20:11Speaker 2: that either. I did want to mention. We talked a
- 20:12Speaker 2: little bit about penalties. Thirteen accepted penalties, I think sixteen
- 20:15Speaker 2: overall one hundred and nineteen yards. And for me, we
- 20:18Speaker 2: see we've seen a bunch of ones on offense where
- 20:20Speaker 2: you know, maybe they're in motion, what's going on. Also,
- 20:23Speaker 2: we'll touch on that a little bit later because the
- 20:24Speaker 2: wide receiver screaming at the We got Parker and Travis
- 20:26Speaker 2: Hunter last weeks screaming at the RAF about whether they
- 20:28Speaker 2: lined up correctly. They got to figure that out. Yeah,
- 20:30Speaker 2: But this week we saw a bunch of defensive penalties Pete,
- 20:33Speaker 2: which is I know they getting beat some of the time,
- 20:37Speaker 2: but you got Dewey Jordan Lewis. I think they had
- 20:41Speaker 2: the one sack they had got called off because of
- 20:45Speaker 2: offside or holding. I can't remember the exactly this. It's
- 20:49Speaker 2: just out of character. And I bit this one was
- 20:52Speaker 2: tough on doing. I don't really know what that wasn't
- 20:55Speaker 2: really that, but his next one was and I think
- 20:59Speaker 2: you know Lows getting beat. I think get two on
- 21:01Speaker 2: one play that's a little bit out of characteristic and
- 21:04Speaker 2: I think we've seen the defense look a lot different
- 21:06Speaker 2: since they haven't been getting takeaways, and maybe without Devin
- 21:08Speaker 2: Lloyd as well.
- 21:10Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't know if that was because of
- 21:11Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd. Look, Devin Lloyd's made some big plays, but look,
- 21:16Speaker 3: even the Chiefs game, he made a great play, but
- 21:18Speaker 3: it wasn't great in that game.
- 21:20Speaker 4: I think when you get takeaways like they got him,
- 21:24Speaker 4: and remember they went to almost went to a super
- 21:27Speaker 4: Bowl with the defense, I got a ton of takeaways
- 21:29Speaker 4: and really wasn't that good. When you get takeaways at times,
- 21:32Speaker 4: it kind of masks.
- 21:33Speaker 3: Who you are as a defense. It covers it up.
- 21:37Speaker 4: And now we have seen what the last two weeks,
- 21:39Speaker 4: they haven't had a takeaway and we've seen what they
- 21:41Speaker 4: look like. Yeah, you know, guys in the secondary had
- 21:46Speaker 4: their worst games on Sunday.
- 21:48Speaker 3: You know, Winger was awful and forget about that penalty
- 21:52Speaker 3: in the end zone. And I came out.
- 21:54Speaker 4: Remember earlier this season, Austin what I said, I thought
- 21:56Speaker 4: he was the most improved player on.
- 21:57Speaker 5: The Yeah, I mean I was with you, man. I
- 21:59Speaker 5: thought it was that the last kind of like the
- 22:01Speaker 5: feel good story of the Jaguars.
- 22:02Speaker 3: Yes, last couple of weeks not so good. Yeah, and
- 22:06Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis had hit by far and away his worst game.
- 22:09Speaker 4: On Sunday he did and so and here's the other
- 22:12Speaker 4: part of that equation. Why the hell isn't Travis Hunter
- 22:16Speaker 4: playing corner?
- 22:17Speaker 2: I thought you had the answer, Peede. I came into this.
- 22:19Speaker 2: I was like, Petele, know what's going on because also.
- 22:22Speaker 3: Here's my theory on it.
- 22:23Speaker 4: And nobody's told me this, but well, they said it
- 22:26Speaker 4: at times during the leading up to the process. But
- 22:30Speaker 4: they need him so much on offense that they're reluctant
- 22:33Speaker 4: to use him all those plays on defense that.
- 22:35Speaker 2: You're down twenty one to nothing, it doesn't matter like
- 22:38Speaker 2: they're getting cooked. They needed him out there.
- 22:41Speaker 4: And by the way, against Seattle, against Kansas City, he
- 22:45Speaker 4: was their best corner and it wasn't even close.
- 22:47Speaker 2: He is still the best corner on this roster and
- 22:50Speaker 2: he has.
- 22:50Speaker 3: To play corner. I would play m a corner and
- 22:53Speaker 3: then using wide receiver.
- 22:54Speaker 4: Here's the part of the problem that's thrown into the
- 22:56Speaker 4: whole mix and why he's being used on offense as
- 22:58Speaker 4: much as he is.
- 23:00Speaker 3: Brian Thomas, there's your problem right there. Yeah, that's the issue.
- 23:04Speaker 5: When we talk about Travis Hunter, and I was I
- 23:08Speaker 5: said this week one, and I was afraid it was
- 23:10Speaker 5: going to be a problem, but you kept on winning
- 23:11Speaker 5: football games, so it was kind of pushed off to
- 23:13Speaker 5: the side. Now you're losing in this fashion, now it
- 23:16Speaker 5: gets brought back to the table. The usage of Travis
- 23:19Speaker 5: Hunter is an issue right now. And I understand that
- 23:23Speaker 5: maybe you want to keep things a little under wraps
- 23:25Speaker 5: because you feel like it's a competitive advantage. But at
- 23:28Speaker 5: some point there has to be some sort of semblance
- 23:32Speaker 5: of he's gonna play this much on offense and this
- 23:34Speaker 5: much on defense, not for the media or not for
- 23:37Speaker 5: me at home to know, Okay, this is how it's
- 23:39Speaker 5: gonna look. I think just for him, Pete, because if
- 23:42Speaker 5: he doesn't have the touchdown yesterday, if he doesn't get
- 23:46Speaker 5: all the targets in the second half, I think we
- 23:48Speaker 5: were this close to having maybe a little bit of
- 23:50Speaker 5: a Twitter meltdown or or you know, like a twitch
- 23:53Speaker 5: stream meltdown, because he looked frustrated yesterday. I think some
- 23:57Speaker 5: of that it's him not playing defense. I think some
- 23:59Speaker 5: of that it seem not getting the ball in the
- 24:00Speaker 5: first half, but it looked like a player who was
- 24:03Speaker 5: this close to saying what are we doing here? And
- 24:06Speaker 5: I think if it was a guy like Malik Neighbors,
- 24:09Speaker 5: if it was a guy like Jamar Chase or somebody
- 24:11Speaker 5: like that with more of a you know, a diva
- 24:13Speaker 5: type of persona, I think we would have heard this
- 24:16Speaker 5: long ago. But I think Travis Hunter, being as humble
- 24:18Speaker 5: and fun loving as he is, being the ultimate team player,
- 24:21Speaker 5: we've heard nothing out of him. I think we're getting
- 24:24Speaker 5: close to hearing something out of him. But thankfully he
- 24:26Speaker 5: got the target's second half and he got the touchdown.
- 24:28Speaker 4: I was telling Kay, but when we were watching the
- 24:31Speaker 4: tape today, there's the play that Brian Thomas Junior dropped
- 24:35Speaker 4: in the middle of the field, and on that play,
- 24:38Speaker 4: Travis Hunter is clearing for what should have been a
- 24:41Speaker 4: touchdown if he you can't fault it was I think
- 24:44Speaker 4: it was third down when.
- 24:45Speaker 3: He dropped it. So you're taking you're taking what you
- 24:48Speaker 3: have there and that should have been a catch. Keep
- 24:50Speaker 3: the chains moving and go.
- 24:52Speaker 4: But Hunter didn't get the ball, and then he saw
- 24:55Speaker 4: the drop and you could see his frustration as he
- 24:58Speaker 4: kind of skipped across field and he was kind of
- 25:01Speaker 4: waving his arms and he was frustrated, and he should be.
- 25:04Speaker 3: I love him on offense.
- 25:05Speaker 4: I think he's great on offense, but he's a ten
- 25:07Speaker 4: times better corner than he is a wide receiver. Just
- 25:09Speaker 4: so happens that Brian Thomas Junior not getting it done
- 25:13Speaker 4: and for whatever reason, he's just not getting it done.
- 25:16Speaker 3: The other guys. Look the Emmy Brown.
- 25:19Speaker 4: He's a guy Parker Washington, good football player, but should
- 25:23Speaker 4: be a third receiver or fourth receiver, And so they
- 25:26Speaker 4: have to use Travis Hunter on offense. And that's why
- 25:28Speaker 4: I think he's not playing as much defense.
- 25:30Speaker 5: So you mentioned that one play to Brian Salmas Junior.
- 25:33Speaker 5: I think another player that stood out to me was there,
- 25:35Speaker 5: probably like at the Rams, maybe thirty or twenty yard
- 25:38Speaker 5: line or whatever. And Trevor throws the Travis. It's a
- 25:41Speaker 5: little high, he gets one hand and it can't make
- 25:42Speaker 5: the completion. It was a bad throw. And then he
- 25:45Speaker 5: gets helmet. I'm sorry, he gets grass in his helmet
- 25:48Speaker 5: and you see him run towards the huddle and Trevor's
- 25:50Speaker 5: trying to pull the grass off his helmet. Watch the
- 25:52Speaker 5: reaction to Travis Hunter in that situation. Because because I've
- 25:55Speaker 5: been there and listen and it's something that goes like,
- 25:58Speaker 5: you know, so under wraps or whatever. But I've been there,
- 26:00Speaker 5: if a teammate's gonna help me out, a gay man
- 26:02Speaker 5: appreciate you, there's nothing doing. He stands like, man, don't
- 26:07Speaker 5: touch me right now.
- 26:07Speaker 3: You know.
- 26:08Speaker 5: That's that's what it looked like. So I think you
- 26:10Speaker 5: have a guy who's obviously frustrated. I think you can
- 26:13Speaker 5: curb some of that frustration of how he's being used
- 26:16Speaker 5: by being completely upfront. Listen, we've never seen this before.
- 26:19Speaker 5: You're playing this much on offense and playing this much
- 26:22Speaker 5: on defense. I think if you established that and we
- 26:24Speaker 5: don't have to know it Pete, but I don't think
- 26:26Speaker 5: he knows it either.
- 26:27Speaker 2: Right now, and it changes week to week. And I'm
- 26:28Speaker 2: sure that's frustrating for him as well, because he wants
- 26:30Speaker 2: to be out there as much as he can. But
- 26:32Speaker 2: to go from playing sign you know, I think he
- 26:34Speaker 2: had so sixty seven offensive snaps the most we've seen
- 26:36Speaker 2: of him, only fourteen on defense. We can see him
- 26:39Speaker 2: until the third quarter after they were down twenty one
- 26:41Speaker 2: nothing at that point. So I think consistency all around,
- 26:44Speaker 2: maybe taking some time on this by week and figuring
- 26:46Speaker 2: out exactly what they want him to look like is
- 26:49Speaker 2: a good idea. We've got a ton more to come
- 26:51Speaker 2: up here on Happy Hour, of course, we're going to
- 26:53Speaker 2: talk more about these drops from the wide receivers what
- 26:55Speaker 2: they can do to get Travis Hunter more involved on
- 26:57Speaker 2: both sides of the football. This is Jaguars Happy Our
- 27:00Speaker 2: presentage by j at Homelans.
- 27:08Speaker 7: We just have to go out there and performing we
- 27:10Speaker 7: need to. We have to go out there and play
- 27:13Speaker 7: the position that we played far as the drops, and
- 27:16Speaker 7: have to be on the same page and able to
- 27:18Speaker 7: communicate at the end of the day. I think even
- 27:20Speaker 7: with the penalties, that's something that you can easily fix,
- 27:23Speaker 7: easily clean up. But it's been repetitive.
- 27:28Speaker 5: I don't know. We got to figure it out.
- 27:31Speaker 2: Execution and issue drops an issue Kai and for j P.
- 27:34Speaker 2: Today Austin lane P Prisco with me on Happy Hour
- 27:37Speaker 2: in Hyndai Studios, So we talked a little bit about
- 27:40Speaker 2: Trevor and some of the issues we saw out of him.
- 27:42Speaker 2: But Austin, these drops are getting I mean, we've talked
- 27:45Speaker 2: about it. It's communication on both sides and it's trust
- 27:48Speaker 2: on both sides. I think we talk a lot about
- 27:50Speaker 2: earning the trust to Trevor Lawrence. But I don't know
- 27:53Speaker 2: if these wide receivers have full trust in Trevor, And
- 27:56Speaker 2: that to me is more telling than other things. They're like, oh,
- 27:59Speaker 2: they don't want to go over the middle and whatnot,
- 28:00Speaker 2: But like I feel a little bit more like maybe
- 28:02Speaker 2: they're not trusting the balls going to be in the
- 28:05Speaker 2: right place or they're being put in the best position either.
- 28:07Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, obviously Brian Thomas Junior is the biggest
- 28:10Speaker 5: culprit right now when we talk about the drops and everything.
- 28:13Speaker 5: But you saw with Parker Washington.
- 28:14Speaker 2: Too, and you come around as well, yeah.
- 28:16Speaker 5: Yeah, you go back to the first quarter of Parker
- 28:17Speaker 5: Washington across the middle. You know, the ball's a little high,
- 28:20Speaker 5: Washington gets hit and all of a sudden it's like, okay,
- 28:23Speaker 5: well let's go back to that play again. What happens
- 28:25Speaker 5: and then he drops it. So this is a lingering
- 28:28Speaker 5: problem right now. And listen, I wish I had the
- 28:31Speaker 5: solution for it. I mean, I can't believe around the conversation,
- 28:34Speaker 5: but I think with Brian Thomas Junior, he has stopped
- 28:37Speaker 5: running across the middle, like it's just not going to work.
- 28:39Speaker 5: And I had, you know, I give Liam Cohen credit
- 28:42Speaker 5: for trying to get him out of the funk, trying
- 28:44Speaker 5: to get him more confidence. But I don't know how
- 28:46Speaker 5: many weeks in a row. Now we're talking about how
- 28:48Speaker 5: many drops. We're talking about now where when Brian Thomas
- 28:51Speaker 5: Junior goes across the middle, it's not going to work.
- 28:53Speaker 5: And at some point if that ask the question, if
- 28:56Speaker 5: you know whether you can tailor make plays on the
- 28:59Speaker 5: outside for Brian's I'm a junior, or you get to
- 29:01Speaker 5: find somebody else, because it's an issue right now, and
- 29:05Speaker 5: it's an issue when you know it's third down, when
- 29:08Speaker 5: when you need it, And this is when the drops
- 29:10Speaker 5: are happening.
- 29:11Speaker 4: I remember when I was there a training camp and
- 29:14Speaker 4: talking to the people in the building and even Liam
- 29:16Speaker 4: Comb said it. I mean, they were not catching the
- 29:18Speaker 4: football and they were concerned. He wasn't catching fifty to
- 29:22Speaker 4: fifty balls. He was dropping a lot of passes and
- 29:24Speaker 4: they couldn't figure out.
- 29:25Speaker 3: They still can't figure out why how can a kid
- 29:30Speaker 3: go from what he was a year ago? And by
- 29:33Speaker 3: the way, I was on.
- 29:34Speaker 4: The podium screaming loud, this kid's going to be the star,
- 29:37Speaker 4: one of the star receivers in this League.
- 29:40Speaker 3: I thought he was going.
- 29:40Speaker 4: To chase Jeffersonville and he's not even close.
- 29:46Speaker 3: And I don't know why. I don't understand it. You know,
- 29:50Speaker 3: I don't think it's a matter of just getting hit
- 29:52Speaker 3: in that Pittsburgh game. That was a big hit, yeah,
- 29:55Speaker 3: but it's more than that.
- 29:57Speaker 2: And it was before that too, cause you mentioned is
- 29:59Speaker 2: this was trained.
- 30:01Speaker 4: I remember in Miami at the at the workouts down there,
- 30:05Speaker 4: they were he was remember he had a good practice
- 30:07Speaker 4: and they were like, finally, why though, And you know,
- 30:11Speaker 4: Jimmy Smith, who played in Jacksonville, is a borderline Hall
- 30:16Speaker 4: of Famer.
- 30:16Speaker 3: Some people think he should be in. That's a whole
- 30:18Speaker 3: nother question. But and you know, Jimmy, Jimmy is killing ban.
- 30:26Speaker 4: Is just and and not just and for little things.
- 30:31Speaker 4: He says his stance is too high. He says he's
- 30:35Speaker 4: the last one off the ball. And I went back
- 30:38Speaker 4: and watched it. He's not fast off out of his stands.
- 30:41Speaker 3: He's just not.
- 30:42Speaker 4: And I noticed there are times where he almost looks
- 30:46Speaker 4: like he's gliding rather than running his route.
- 30:49Speaker 3: That's not not low thing.
- 30:51Speaker 4: But because it's hard to get a gauge on a
- 30:53Speaker 4: guy that makes it look easy at times when he's running.
- 30:56Speaker 3: And then the drops, I mean the balls on the
- 30:58Speaker 3: sideline where he had in his hands that won ball,
- 31:02Speaker 3: you got to catch that.
- 31:03Speaker 4: It wasn't a great decision, won a great throw, but
- 31:05Speaker 4: you still got to go.
- 31:06Speaker 3: A great receiver goes up and catches that ball. He
- 31:09Speaker 3: didn't catch it.
- 31:10Speaker 4: You know those are and then the easy one in
- 31:12Speaker 4: the middle, Come on, that's you got to make that play.
- 31:14Speaker 5: It's just it.
- 31:16Speaker 3: I've never seen a guy go from where I thought
- 31:20Speaker 3: he was going to what he is now and what
- 31:23Speaker 3: he is now. If you had to rank their receivers
- 31:25Speaker 3: right now, where's he rank?
- 31:27Speaker 5: I mean one? I have Parker Washington ahead of him
- 31:30Speaker 5: right now.
- 31:30Speaker 2: Maybe three, I mean yeah.
- 31:32Speaker 5: Possibly the obviously Travis Hunter is ahead of him. I
- 31:35Speaker 5: think in terms, I.
- 31:35Speaker 3: Thought he might be in the league by the end,
- 31:38Speaker 3: by this time during the season. Same what we saw
- 31:40Speaker 3: last year was unreal. What happened?
- 31:43Speaker 4: Yeah, well, no, somebody needs to go to him and
- 31:45Speaker 4: tell him, get your head out of your butt and go.
- 31:48Speaker 3: It's time to go. But you have star power, dude.
- 31:51Speaker 5: But Pete, this is where I think the accountability and
- 31:53Speaker 5: the coaching has to come into play here. Like if
- 31:56Speaker 5: you say that he's the last off the line in
- 31:58Speaker 5: terms of his stance. If you say, you know, he's
- 32:01Speaker 5: got bad technique out of his breaks, If we're saying
- 32:04Speaker 5: obviously there's not a focus in terms of catching the football,
- 32:08Speaker 5: then coaches got to step up and start holding people accountable,
- 32:10Speaker 5: right I remember. I remember going to Detroit when I
- 32:14Speaker 5: played there for a couple of weeks and being an
- 32:16Speaker 5: absolute awe of Calvin Johnson. Calvin Johnson freak of nature,
- 32:21Speaker 5: runs whatever a four three forty six'. Five BUT i
- 32:25Speaker 5: was surprised of how much he worked at his craft
- 32:28Speaker 5: even later on in his. Career right like, That this
- 32:30Speaker 5: was a GUY i felt, like, dude If I'm Calvin,
- 32:31Speaker 5: Johnson i'm at size And I'm i'm that, Past i'm
- 32:34Speaker 5: gonna sleep, in show up WHEN i, want And i'm
- 32:36Speaker 5: gonna catch. Footballs this guy is one of the first
- 32:39Speaker 5: ones out there going through his. Routes this guy was
- 32:41Speaker 5: one of the last to leave at the jugs machine
- 32:43Speaker 5: making sure the ball's in his, hands like that's what it.
- 32:46Speaker 5: Takes and maybe you, Know Brian thomas Is junior's his
- 32:50Speaker 5: biggest detriment right now is that he got comfortable after
- 32:52Speaker 5: the first. Season but then if You're Liam, cohen if
- 32:54Speaker 5: you're a, company if you're the skill position, coach, whatever
- 32:57Speaker 5: then you got to hold that guy accountable and, say hey,
- 32:59Speaker 5: man we aren't doing the little things. Properly right, now
- 33:02Speaker 5: let's get back to the. Basics Think and.
- 33:04Speaker 4: You, know people want to blame the wide receiver, Coach Edgar.
- 33:07Speaker 4: Beennan i've Known edgar for a long. Time edgar coached
- 33:09Speaker 4: some really good receivers in this, league and he's done
- 33:11Speaker 4: a REAL i, Mean Devonte adams was. AN i, mean
- 33:13Speaker 4: he's coached a lot of guys AND i don't know
- 33:16Speaker 4: if IT'S i don't think It's, EDGAR i really.
- 33:18Speaker 3: DON'T i think it's the, kid and the kid has
- 33:21Speaker 3: to figure it.
- 33:21Speaker 4: Out you, know when you teach a kid that put
- 33:24Speaker 4: his foot in the ground and you, know snap that
- 33:26Speaker 4: route off's this he's a. Bender if you watch his,
- 33:29Speaker 4: routes he's a gliding. Bender and defensive backs don't respect.
- 33:33Speaker 5: That, yeah and they.
- 33:34Speaker 3: Should they.
- 33:35Speaker 2: Don't AND i think we gave him a lot of
- 33:38Speaker 2: credit last, season right especially in the back half when
- 33:41Speaker 2: he's having a lot of. Success but that was With
- 33:43Speaker 2: Mac jones and the tapes out now and there wasn't
- 33:45Speaker 2: a lot of. Options he was getting the ball thrown to,
- 33:47Speaker 2: him you, know fifteen plus times because no back half
- 33:50Speaker 2: the season there was nobody. Playing and now that you,
- 33:53Speaker 2: know he was probably the focus for a lot of
- 33:56Speaker 2: defenses coming in this, year they've made that a point
- 33:59Speaker 2: and now that they're some tentativeness, there they very much
- 34:03Speaker 2: latched onto, that and it feels like it's almost hard
- 34:05Speaker 2: to work when your weaknesses are shown that.
- 34:07Speaker 5: Way, Awesome, yeah, no it's it's a great. Point and
- 34:10Speaker 5: it's wild that we're having this conversation because if you
- 34:12Speaker 5: Go week one Against carolina And i'm The CAROLINA dc right,
- 34:16Speaker 5: Now i'm in the border in front of my, Team i'm,
- 34:18Speaker 5: like all, right who the game? Wreckers Brian Thomas junior's first,
- 34:21Speaker 5: right hands. Down If I'm Pete carroll right now And
- 34:25Speaker 5: i'm planning this defense in a couple of weeks to
- 34:26Speaker 5: play The Jacksonville, JAGUARS i don't Have Brian Thomas junior
- 34:30Speaker 5: on my game rerecord. List Like i'm not worried about.
- 34:32Speaker 5: Him i'm worried About Travis. Hunter i'm worried about the
- 34:34Speaker 5: run game a little. Bit but Like Brian Thomas junior isn't,
- 34:37Speaker 5: There so It's i'm at a loss for, wards, Really,
- 34:41Speaker 5: pete BECAUSE i think this was one of the CONVERSATIONS
- 34:43Speaker 5: i was not expecting to have halfway through the, season
- 34:45Speaker 5: almost of the you, know of the, downfall if you,
- 34:48Speaker 5: will Of Brian Thomas. Junior AND i really don't, know
- 34:52Speaker 5: like how you get out of, it because you've seen this.
- 34:56Speaker 5: Offense now try to feature, him you've seen, them try to, Go,
- 34:59Speaker 5: okay it's one bad. Game we're on in the next.
- 35:01Speaker 5: One and now it's just it is who you, are
- 35:04Speaker 5: Right like you're entitled to have a bad. Game everyone's
- 35:07Speaker 5: gonna have a bad game some, jobs, okay but this
- 35:10Speaker 5: is your identity, now and your identity is you're you're
- 35:12Speaker 5: an offensive minded team that doesn't have a wide receiver
- 35:16Speaker 5: one at the.
- 35:17Speaker 3: Moment. Okay and here's the other.
- 35:19Speaker 4: Thing when you Watch Travis hunter play wide, receiver you
- 35:22Speaker 4: see joy in his. Game you see you know he's
- 35:26Speaker 4: even when he's not getting the, football you can tell
- 35:28Speaker 4: he runs his routes, hard he loves you can see.
- 35:31Speaker 3: Enthusiasm he just lived to play.
- 35:32Speaker 4: Football Brian thomas plays the game like it's a, job
- 35:38Speaker 4: you know WHAT i.
- 35:38Speaker 3: Mean and we know it.
- 35:39Speaker 4: Is it's a, job but you gotta have the boyish
- 35:42Speaker 4: enthusiasm for your.
- 35:43Speaker 3: Job do you see that from him?
- 35:45Speaker 5: Ever, no but NO i. Don't BUT i also played
- 35:47Speaker 5: against a guy Named Andre johnson who showed zero motion
- 35:50Speaker 5: as one of the best wide Receivers i've ever. Seen
- 35:52Speaker 5: so like every.
- 35:53Speaker 4: Every wide receivers just't have the skills where he didn't
- 35:56Speaker 4: need to worry about.
- 35:57Speaker 3: No without a.
- 35:58Speaker 5: Doubt and at the end of the, day like, Listen
- 36:00Speaker 5: i'll take the humble type over the look at me
- 36:04Speaker 5: diva type any day of the.
- 36:05Speaker 3: Week, Absolutely and.
- 36:07Speaker 5: Like that's WHAT i think we all praised last year
- 36:09Speaker 5: At Brian Thomas junior is he's kind of saft spoken
- 36:11Speaker 5: and he's. Reserved but the problem is then is when.
- 36:14Speaker 2: It's going, wrong and you got to put in the work.
- 36:16Speaker 5: Too you got to put in the work as. Well
- 36:17Speaker 5: but the problem is when it's going, wrong you don't
- 36:18Speaker 5: know what's going.
- 36:19Speaker 3: On though from WHAT i, hear he puts the work.
- 36:21Speaker 3: In he just.
- 36:22Speaker 4: Practice he kind of glides a little bit at, times
- 36:24Speaker 4: which is concerning and they don't know why and.
- 36:27Speaker 3: He blocks he. Does that's.
- 36:29Speaker 2: Weird does you see the bids.
- 36:31Speaker 4: A wide receiver doesn't carry he's he's. Not he, blocked
- 36:33Speaker 4: so there's something else there and they got to figure it.
- 36:36Speaker 4: OUT i don't think he trusts the quarterback. EITHER i
- 36:39Speaker 4: think there's a that could be an issue, too because
- 36:41Speaker 4: you think about.
- 36:42Speaker 3: It when he's played With tever never been.
- 36:44Speaker 4: Good when he played With Mac, jones he was, Good
- 36:46Speaker 4: so there might be some kind of trust issue there as.
- 36:49Speaker 2: Well and there's not a lot OF i, mean on
- 36:51Speaker 2: these past. Teams you Know Christian, kirk who's Probably trevor
- 36:53Speaker 2: learns his best friend in. Life the trust is. There Evan,
- 36:56Speaker 2: ingram the trust is, there and those are relationships they build.
- 36:59Speaker 2: Together trevor doesn't have that implicit trust THAT i can
- 37:03Speaker 2: see from the receiver core that he has right. Now
- 37:05Speaker 2: AND i think that's part of what's, showing at least
- 37:07Speaker 2: with the disconnect with those two because we've talked a
- 37:10Speaker 2: ton About trevor trusting, them but the wide receivers don't
- 37:14Speaker 2: see and when it comes to, drops a lot of
- 37:16Speaker 2: this is. Mental these guys are physically. Capable they're talented wide.
- 37:19Speaker 2: RECEIVER i think we went in saying this maybe is
- 37:21Speaker 2: the most talented position group on the, team right or
- 37:23Speaker 2: in training. Camp But, pete they the, drops what's the mental?
- 37:27Speaker 2: Aspect how do you even work on?
- 37:28Speaker 4: That you know everybody always says go work on the jugs.
- 37:33Speaker 4: MACHINE i don't think, That, yeah, look that doesn't fix.
- 37:35Speaker 2: It you could trust the drugs machine because that's always
- 37:37Speaker 2: in the same. Spot so.
- 37:39Speaker 4: Like Diomi brown's drop or, whatever it, was that to,
- 37:45Speaker 4: me AND i Think Kurt warner did a good job explaining.
- 37:47Speaker 5: It there's.
- 37:48Speaker 4: Something it wasn't just a, Drop it wasn't just a bad.
- 37:51Speaker 4: Throw it was something between the two of. Them is
- 37:54Speaker 4: he supposed to? Continue he is he supposed to sit?
- 37:56Speaker 4: Down is he supposed to ball is supposed to be?
- 37:58Speaker 3: Here and you don't know the answer to, that but
- 38:01Speaker 3: it ended up going off his hands and being technically
- 38:03Speaker 3: it wasn't a, drop but it. Was it should have been.
- 38:05Speaker 4: Caught AND i think there's a lot of that indecision.
- 38:09Speaker 3: On what you should do on a route where the
- 38:11Speaker 3: ball is going to be ball, placement and you, Know
- 38:14Speaker 3: trevor's high with a lot of balls and you know
- 38:16Speaker 3: that sometimes that's, frustrating AND i THINK i think that
- 38:20Speaker 3: adds to the whole.
- 38:21Speaker 4: Process and then passing on shots down the field if
- 38:25Speaker 4: you're a receiver and you think you're open and he's
- 38:27Speaker 4: checking it down for a five yard game a gain
- 38:30Speaker 4: on third and, fourteen you're, frustrated you're angry.
- 38:33Speaker 3: About, it AND i think you're having some of that as, Well.
- 38:36Speaker 5: Pete do You so then what's what's this the immediate? Solution?
- 38:41Speaker 5: Then like if we're talking About Brian Thomas, junior like
- 38:43Speaker 5: do we do you look his way? Less? Now do
- 38:46Speaker 5: you elevate somebody and Take Brian Thomas junior's? Spot OBVIOUSLY
- 38:50Speaker 5: i think More Travis hunter is going to be the
- 38:52Speaker 5: answer going, Forward but, like how do you how do
- 38:55Speaker 5: you manage the? Situation because right now with what you
- 38:57Speaker 5: have a wide receiver and in terms of your group and,
- 38:59Speaker 5: everything like he's going to be counted on in some.
- 39:02Speaker 5: Capacity you would, THINK i don't think you want to buy.
- 39:05Speaker 4: Week they could spend time with him in the bye
- 39:06Speaker 4: week and get him all straightened out and try and
- 39:09Speaker 4: figure that, out because you, Know trevor And Brian thomas
- 39:12Speaker 4: were supposed to be this combination that was going to
- 39:14Speaker 4: go for the next you, know four or five.
- 39:16Speaker 3: Years, wow look how great they.
- 39:18Speaker 4: Are they're not anything close to, that, nothing nothing close to.
- 39:21Speaker 2: It and we See trev's hunter. Right so he had
- 39:26Speaker 2: eight catches one hundred plus yards, here one hundred one
- 39:30Speaker 2: yards a. Touchdown he had fourteen, targets so that's a
- 39:34Speaker 2: little over fifty. Percent they had defeated to him late
- 39:36Speaker 2: a lot because there wasn't anything going. On we haven't
- 39:39Speaker 2: seen a ton of him on. Offense is the most
- 39:41Speaker 2: we've seen of him on. OFFENSE i think as he
- 39:44Speaker 2: learns the different wide receiver, positions can you force him
- 39:48Speaker 2: into it more without compromising what you're. DOING i guess
- 39:52Speaker 2: you're not having, success you might as well try and
- 39:53Speaker 2: force it to him a little. Bit but if he's
- 39:55Speaker 2: messing up the three snap penalties and all that, stuff.
- 39:58Speaker 3: Quick stuff to. HIM i think the best thing that
- 40:00Speaker 3: we saw On sunday was the fact that he got
- 40:02Speaker 3: down the field they threw, it because everything they've done
- 40:05Speaker 3: so far had been quick stuff in the quick.
- 40:07Speaker 4: Game but now he got down the, field AND i
- 40:09Speaker 4: think that's something you're gonna start seeing more and more.
- 40:12Speaker 4: Of you, know on they threw the one quick. Screen
- 40:14Speaker 4: it was actually a great play design where it looks
- 40:17Speaker 4: like it's gonna be the bubble screen to the, side
- 40:20Speaker 4: and then he comes underneath, it and the lineman's got
- 40:22Speaker 4: to be when they missed the.
- 40:23Speaker 3: Block when they missed the, block there's no tunnel. There
- 40:25Speaker 3: if he does make that, block AND i think it
- 40:27Speaker 3: Was hainesy who missed. It if he makes the, block
- 40:30Speaker 3: he's up the alley and he probably goes for twenty
- 40:32Speaker 3: five yards or.
- 40:32Speaker 4: Something maybe those are the kind of the design of
- 40:35Speaker 4: the play, worked but they didn't block, it so it didn't.
- 40:39Speaker 4: Work and it's just those little things that are preventing
- 40:42Speaker 4: them from. Going but the biggest thing that has to
- 40:44Speaker 4: happen after the, Buye trevor's got to take the shots
- 40:46Speaker 4: down the. Field they got to run the ball, better
- 40:48Speaker 4: And Brian thomas needs to start playing Like Brian thomas
- 40:51Speaker 4: because if he, doesn't they got a major.
- 40:53Speaker 5: Problem, YEAH i, MEAN i think this offense right, now
- 40:55Speaker 5: the top priority has to be to run the football
- 40:58Speaker 5: BECAUSE i think right now defense are playing too much
- 41:00Speaker 5: on their heels knowing it's going to be a pass
- 41:02Speaker 5: because they can shut down the. RUN i think when
- 41:04Speaker 5: The jaguars have had the best success is the threat
- 41:08Speaker 5: to run the football and then working play action off
- 41:10Speaker 5: that you saw that yesterday with The. Rams you know
- 41:13Speaker 5: that The rams came out in a lot of three
- 41:15Speaker 5: tight end, looks two tight, END luckx and, everything and
- 41:17Speaker 5: This jaguars defense wasn't ready for, it right and you
- 41:19Speaker 5: saw it Against seattle as. Well and this is this
- 41:21Speaker 5: is where THE nfl is going. Now THE nfl is
- 41:23Speaker 5: going back to like the Qbac, god you know offense
- 41:27Speaker 5: that the he had WHEN i played For jacksonwall And,
- 41:29Speaker 5: houston where it's, like as a defensive, lineman you hate
- 41:32Speaker 5: it because it all looks the. Same is it going
- 41:34Speaker 5: to be a? Run is it gonna be play? Action?
- 41:36Speaker 5: Like that's what The jaguars have to. Be you can't
- 41:39Speaker 5: be a team that wants to sling it forty fifty
- 41:41Speaker 5: times a GAME i expect to. Win it's just that
- 41:43Speaker 5: they aren't built for that right.
- 41:44Speaker 3: Now, no they're.
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- 41:57Speaker 2: a ton. Offense we've got to talk a little bit
- 41:58Speaker 2: about the. Defense no, takeaway some big, problems not a
- 42:01Speaker 2: lot of pass. RUSH i don't know if we have the,
- 42:03Speaker 2: answers but we're going to try to figure things out
- 42:05Speaker 2: here On Jaguars Happy hour presented By Jet Home.
- 42:07Speaker 8: Loans we all know who we are as, players how
- 42:18Speaker 8: we want to, play how we want to take the
- 42:20Speaker 8: field every single day is just you, know when we
- 42:22Speaker 8: start being, OURSELVES i think that's, when you, know all
- 42:25Speaker 8: that goes out the.
- 42:26Speaker 5: Window SO i think that's where it. Starts you, know starts.
- 42:29Speaker 8: Internally and you, know if you're guy that's constantly making those,
- 42:33Speaker 8: MISTAKES i don't, KNOW i could be talking about, MYSELF
- 42:36Speaker 8: i be talking about. Anybody we have to look at
- 42:38Speaker 8: those mistakes and hold yourself accountable and you, know do
- 42:44Speaker 8: it for the team and you, know, again.
- 42:46Speaker 5: Find a way to get.
- 42:47Speaker 3: Better and that's where.
- 42:48Speaker 5: We're at right.
- 42:48Speaker 2: Now two us is in a row for The, jaguars
- 42:52Speaker 2: AND i think frustrating because it feels like a lot
- 42:53Speaker 2: of self inflicted, wounds whether it's penalties or just, misalignments
- 42:58Speaker 2: prest penalties on offense, too but saw a bunch on.
- 43:00Speaker 2: Defense Austin, Lane Pee prisco here with. Me i'm filling
- 43:03Speaker 2: in FOR jp and the pass Rush. Austin we haven't
- 43:08Speaker 2: seen much of. Anything AND i Know trayvon's been playing
- 43:10Speaker 2: with cast on one, hand and we haven't been seeing
- 43:13Speaker 2: a ton from maybe the middle of the. Line but
- 43:16Speaker 2: to go the last couple of weeks where you're allowing
- 43:19Speaker 2: seven sacks on the other side of the ball both,
- 43:22Speaker 2: weeks so fourteen sacks allowed and then haven't gotten to
- 43:25Speaker 2: the quarterback at all from the defense.
- 43:27Speaker 5: Line so this is one of the DOWNSIDES i think
- 43:30Speaker 5: of winning is that sometimes it can mask a lot of.
- 43:32Speaker 5: Things AND i think so far through the winning time
- 43:35Speaker 5: was that it massed a little bit of the pass
- 43:38Speaker 5: rush because, yes you were getting. Interceptions you, know against
- 43:40Speaker 5: The Kansas city, game you Had lloyd who you know
- 43:43Speaker 5: essentially Saw patch mahomes, eyes goes to the, ball gets
- 43:45Speaker 5: a nine to nine yard interception for a. Touchdown like
- 43:47Speaker 5: that was great and, Everything but what gets lost in
- 43:50Speaker 5: those games is there wasn't a lot of pass. Rush and,
- 43:54Speaker 5: yeah if you want to look at the box, score,
- 43:56Speaker 5: Yeah josh Heinz allen not really getting Home Treyvon, walker
- 43:59Speaker 5: dealing with the club and. Everything but it's so much
- 44:02Speaker 5: more than. That it's it's interior. Wise right, NOW i
- 44:04Speaker 5: Think Eric armstead is still the leading quarterback sat getter
- 44:07Speaker 5: of this. Team but interior, wise they're not really getting home.
- 44:11Speaker 5: Either and you're seeing right now a defense that doesn't
- 44:14Speaker 5: really have a lot of answers in terms, of you,
- 44:15Speaker 5: know generating. Pressure they're trying to blitz, people they're trying
- 44:19Speaker 5: to do, everything and they can't get home Pee and
- 44:21Speaker 5: you saw Yesterday Matthew stafford absolutely tear this team apart
- 44:26Speaker 5: when they wanted to.
- 44:27Speaker 4: Blitz, yeah AND i thought early in the game they
- 44:31Speaker 4: might blitz. More remember the first play of the, game
- 44:33Speaker 4: they got, pressure they, blitzed they came a bunch of different,
- 44:35Speaker 4: ways and then they kind of backed off of it
- 44:37Speaker 4: a little. Bit and then when they did it. Spotty you,
- 44:39Speaker 4: know you mentioned josh Heinz.
- 44:40Speaker 3: Allen, look he's not getting a guy on the quarterback
- 44:44Speaker 3: on the.
- 44:44Speaker 4: Ground he's playing really good football, though and if you
- 44:47Speaker 4: look at the, tape there's two guys on him on
- 44:50Speaker 4: every team KNOWS i got to take him away Without
- 44:53Speaker 4: Trayvon walker on the other side because he's not.
- 44:55Speaker 3: THERE i don't care what they. Say he what Do
- 44:57Speaker 3: he played eighteen.
- 44:58Speaker 4: Plays he's not the same with that club. Man you
- 45:02Speaker 4: can't you, can't you can't, shed you, can't you can't
- 45:05Speaker 4: get to get off, guys AND i think that's a
- 45:08Speaker 4: problem when he's not.
- 45:09Speaker 3: There ogba, smooth they're Not they're not line up and
- 45:13Speaker 3: win kind of.
- 45:13Speaker 4: Guys they're good effort, players particularly. Smooth that's who they.
- 45:16Speaker 4: Are the interior you talk about That. Armstead, Okay smith
- 45:22Speaker 4: has had a couple of pressures here and he actually
- 45:24Speaker 4: had a couple of. YEAR i think he had got
- 45:26Speaker 4: credited with two of them. Yesterday hamilton doesn't give you
- 45:29Speaker 4: any pass rush at.
- 45:31Speaker 3: All and so you don't get a lot of pressure.
- 45:33Speaker 4: Inside and when you don't get pressure, inside they just
- 45:36Speaker 4: run and you, know Heinz allen.
- 45:38Speaker 3: Up the field and all of a sudden you don't
- 45:39Speaker 3: have any. Pressure but, yeah in fairness to, Him i'm
- 45:42Speaker 3: gonna give him credit because he's played actually good. Football
- 45:45Speaker 3: he just can't get the quarterback on the. Ground did
- 45:47Speaker 3: he not get credit at all for? That when he
- 45:49Speaker 3: there wasn't? Act did he not get?
- 45:50Speaker 2: That, yeah but there.
- 45:55Speaker 3: Wasn't there wasn't another.
- 45:56Speaker 2: One where he almost got him but he got away
- 45:58Speaker 2: and then he got the ball. Off that's. RIGHT i
- 45:59Speaker 2: think maybe A Q, yeah something like That, yeah he's, uh.
- 46:04Speaker 3: He's actually played good.
- 46:05Speaker 4: Football and they know every, team you know we talk
- 46:07Speaker 4: about teams know who to take.
- 46:09Speaker 3: Away, yeah they're putting two guys over, there they're chipping,
- 46:12Speaker 3: them they're hitting.
- 46:12Speaker 4: Them and then because they know there's nothing on the
- 46:14Speaker 4: other side right, now Because Trayvon walker has to show.
- 46:16Speaker 3: HIMSELF i, mean he probably shouldn't be.
- 46:18Speaker 2: Playing by the, way he probably shouldn't.
- 46:20Speaker 3: Be.
- 46:20Speaker 5: Yeah, YEAH i think at some point at that ashef
- 46:22Speaker 5: are you doing more harm than?
- 46:23Speaker 2: GOOD i still think he's better than not having him out,
- 46:26Speaker 2: there even at whatever capacity it. Is just because he.
- 46:30Speaker 4: Made one play where he looped inside and knocked the guard,
- 46:33Speaker 4: back do you.
- 46:33Speaker 5: Remember, yeah, yeah, yeah you did.
- 46:35Speaker 3: That but but you're, right but he can't he can't
- 46:37Speaker 3: use that. Hand but you can't use that. Hand you're
- 46:39Speaker 3: playing one handed and it's hard to rush the pass
- 46:41Speaker 3: or one.
- 46:41Speaker 2: HANDED i think the hope with, him at least from
- 46:44Speaker 2: what we've, heard is that take this bye, WEEK i,
- 46:46Speaker 2: think hoping hopefully going Into vegas or if, not the next,
- 46:48Speaker 2: week he'll be able to play with a different cast
- 46:50Speaker 2: where he'll get his use of his hands back a
- 46:52Speaker 2: little bit and hopefully get a little bit more back
- 46:55Speaker 2: to the trayvon we are used to, seeing but a lot.
- 46:57Speaker 2: More that was the first hour Of Happy. Hour gonna
- 47:00Speaker 2: be back with. You of, course as we discuss much,
- 47:02Speaker 2: more we'll keep it. REAL i answer the fan questions
- 47:05Speaker 2: all of that here On Jaguars Happy hour on The
- 47:07Speaker 2: Jaguars Digital.
- 47:08Speaker 9: NETWORK i feel like we're, Going we're really going together
- 47:17Speaker 9: and we're getting.
- 47:19Speaker 10: Better but TODAY i feel like we had a step.
- 47:22Speaker 10: Back and then as a, LEADER i feel like that
- 47:24Speaker 10: that's that's definitely one of me being a key part in.
- 47:27Speaker 10: That But i'll let you guys know THAT i let
- 47:29Speaker 10: him down and they appreciated. Me but LIKE i, said,
- 47:33Speaker 10: MAN i really do love them and we're gonna get.
- 47:36Speaker 10: Better AND i, KNOW i Know i've been through my
- 47:39Speaker 10: fair share of, adversity SO i think we can we
- 47:42Speaker 10: can get through.
- 47:42Speaker 2: This welcome into your second hour Of Happy, hour Kind
- 47:46Speaker 2: Nannie stephen's filling in FOR Jp shaddick because he travels
- 47:49Speaker 2: back From. London Austin, Lane Pete prisco are with me
- 47:52Speaker 2: and the Second hour presented by Mister Chubbes's wings before the,
- 47:54Speaker 2: game after the, game during the, game anytime there's Mister.
- 47:57Speaker 2: Chubbies it's a good. Time we'll briefly go back over.
- 48:00Speaker 2: Things that Was Jordan, lewis one of your captains coming
- 48:02Speaker 2: in From, dallas a veteran. Player probably his worst game
- 48:05Speaker 2: that we've seen thus far with The, jaguars because he's
- 48:07Speaker 2: been great other than. That some penalties just frustrating all
- 48:10Speaker 2: around on the defensive side of the. Football as we mentioned,
- 48:13Speaker 2: earlier thirteen accepted penalties over one hundred penalty. Yards it's
- 48:16Speaker 2: very difficult to win a football game that. Way and
- 48:19Speaker 2: now The drags are four and three heading into the
- 48:21Speaker 2: bye week after that thirty five to seven loss to
- 48:24Speaker 2: The rams At Wembley stadium and getting down twenty one nothing.
- 48:28Speaker 2: Early they sleep walked into it a little bit because
- 48:30Speaker 2: when you look at the, stats it doesn't look. Crazy
- 48:33Speaker 2: just with those penalties, combined it was very short fields
- 48:36Speaker 2: for The rams and they took. Advantage Matthew stafford completely
- 48:39Speaker 2: took advantage of what was given to him and really
- 48:43Speaker 2: kind of ate away at that secondary a little. Bit
- 48:45Speaker 2: and we haven't talked about it because you guys haven't
- 48:47Speaker 2: been on the show in a couple of, weeks but
- 48:48Speaker 2: they made that trade Sent Tyson campbell To cleveland and
- 48:52Speaker 2: Got Greg knwsom junior in, return And tyson hadn't been
- 48:55Speaker 2: playing Great. Austin but that does switch up some of
- 48:58Speaker 2: the dynamic in the. Secondary it feels like they haven't
- 49:01Speaker 2: quite figured it out. Yet, yes they played two great,
- 49:03Speaker 2: teams SO i don't want to just put it on, that
- 49:05Speaker 2: but they haven't quite figured that out.
- 49:07Speaker 5: Yet you, KNOW i couldn't Help but notice yesterday AND
- 49:12Speaker 5: i think this might have been the Second adams touchdown
- 49:14Speaker 5: in the third. Round and there's so many of, them
- 49:16Speaker 5: but there was a couple of them, Right but When
- 49:19Speaker 5: adams was on single, COVERAGE i think With Buster, brown
- 49:21Speaker 5: If i'm not, mistaken And adams just really it literally
- 49:24Speaker 5: goes like this To, stafford And stafford checks it and it's,
- 49:27Speaker 5: like okay that they knew what was going. ON i
- 49:29Speaker 5: couldn't help it in the, instance, know like If Tyson
- 49:31Speaker 5: campbell was out there On DeVante, adams Would Tyson campbell
- 49:35Speaker 5: have made a. Difference And i'm not sure if that's
- 49:38Speaker 5: the case or, not but you, KNOW i think when
- 49:42Speaker 5: and we talked about WELL i talked about this on
- 49:44Speaker 5: a different, Show but like when you're a defensive guy
- 49:46Speaker 5: and you're coming to a different, team, like, yeah maybe
- 49:50Speaker 5: the playbook's, minimal but it takes time to get ingrained
- 49:53Speaker 5: in terms of who you're playing with next two and
- 49:55Speaker 5: everything in.
- 49:55Speaker 2: Terms of the.
- 49:57Speaker 5: Spot, Right so you, know we haven't seen the full
- 50:00Speaker 5: capabilities THAT i feel like of A. Newsom but at
- 50:02Speaker 5: the same, time right, NOW i, see you, KNOW i
- 50:05Speaker 5: See Tyson campbell get a pick six and he's doing his,
- 50:07Speaker 5: thing and then you see news him and it's, Like,
- 50:09Speaker 5: okay wasn't the best. Game it's not a good look right, Now.
- 50:13Speaker 4: Pete But campbell's pick six kind of was an.
- 50:16Speaker 2: Accident From Rayshawn, jenkins our other old.
- 50:19Speaker 4: Friend by the, way, yeah, yeah it wasn't like he
- 50:22Speaker 4: jumped the route and took the back. Around but so,
- 50:25Speaker 4: LOOK i know why they made the. Move newsom fits
- 50:28Speaker 4: what they want to.
- 50:28Speaker 3: Do he plays better looking at the field Than Tyson
- 50:31Speaker 3: campbell does and the track was.
- 50:33Speaker 4: Brutal by the, way let's be, real the previous regime
- 50:37Speaker 4: threw money around like they printed it at times for
- 50:39Speaker 4: guys that probably shouldn't have got that, money and that
- 50:42Speaker 4: was part of the. Process but you're, right it's gonna
- 50:45Speaker 4: take the bye week is probably good For. Newsom he
- 50:48Speaker 4: needs to get up the speed on, everything and does
- 50:50Speaker 4: he what's the safety Trust and you go back to
- 50:52Speaker 4: The smith And jigba play Against.
- 50:55Speaker 3: Seattle where was dew we on that?
- 50:58Speaker 5: Play so we're starting to see we can't talk about
- 51:02Speaker 5: this when we talked About, dewey but we're starting to
- 51:03Speaker 5: see now of an issue With dewey in terms of
- 51:07Speaker 5: he's playing far way like he's playing way up too
- 51:09Speaker 5: much and he doesn't have to speed to, recover, RIGHT i,
- 51:13Speaker 5: mean AND i. CAN'T i can't remember who the tight
- 51:15Speaker 5: end was who he got burnt by as well Against.
- 51:17Speaker 5: Seattle guy right the?
- 51:19Speaker 3: Back, yeah?
- 51:21Speaker 5: Whoever he was.
- 51:23Speaker 2: Someone you don't know to with the tight.
- 51:25Speaker 3: Ends there's the rookie From.
- 51:29Speaker 5: Oregon, okay, no that's the that's From, Yeah i'm talking
- 51:32Speaker 5: about the guy From seattle two weeks. Ago but yeah
- 51:36Speaker 5: that Was.
- 51:37Speaker 3: Barner ok YEAH A.
- 51:39Speaker 5: J barner ran a four eight, Right and like you
- 51:41Speaker 5: see this happen with safety sometimes where you get sucked
- 51:44Speaker 5: in a little too, much whether it's play, action whether
- 51:46Speaker 5: it's fourth and, short and, like, Okay i'm gonna you,
- 51:48Speaker 5: know get sucked, up but you have to recover off
- 51:50Speaker 5: that and right, now for whatever, reason whether It's barner
- 51:53Speaker 5: or whether it was the play. Yesterday you have a
- 51:56Speaker 5: safety who's coming down thinking it's gonna be a run
- 51:58Speaker 5: and he can't, recover and that's just that's Not dewey's.
- 52:01Speaker 5: Game SO i would much rather see him in the
- 52:03Speaker 5: strong safety stack in the box stopping the run than
- 52:06Speaker 5: maybe playing a little more of like a you, know
- 52:08Speaker 5: a center fielder where it's, like, Hey i'm responsible for
- 52:11Speaker 5: the back end because that's not his.
- 52:12Speaker 3: Game, YEAH i, mean and the last two weeks has
- 52:16Speaker 3: been really. BAD i, mean let's be, real BECAUSE i
- 52:18Speaker 3: praised them earlier the, SEASON i gave all his flowers
- 52:20Speaker 3: and think we all be honest about.
- 52:22Speaker 5: It the last weeks we're.
- 52:23Speaker 3: Terrible.
- 52:23Speaker 2: Yeah AND i don't know if that's just because of
- 52:26Speaker 2: personnel changes as well or kind of the book getting,
- 52:28Speaker 2: out BECAUSE i think they're picking on him a little
- 52:30Speaker 2: bit at, times at least the last couple of weeks
- 52:33Speaker 2: With dewey and then yesterday he was and he's been
- 52:37Speaker 2: playing with that neck. INJURY i think he left the
- 52:38Speaker 2: game as well again yesterday he's that neck injury has been,
- 52:41Speaker 2: lingering so we've seen him not in there as. Well
- 52:43Speaker 2: and then you're getting down to you, Know antonio And,
- 52:45Speaker 2: johnson whoever they can put in just with. Bodies at that, Point,
- 52:49Speaker 2: pete why Can't Travis hunter play cornerback all the? TIME
- 52:53Speaker 2: i know we want him on, offense but like you're
- 52:55Speaker 2: supposed to play. Both he's your best. Cornerback it is
- 52:57Speaker 2: so frustrating to not see him in the full staff
- 53:00Speaker 2: of a football.
- 53:00Speaker 4: Game, YEAH i would play him a corner he would
- 53:03Speaker 4: be on the. Field and by the, Way i'm glad
- 53:05Speaker 4: you brought him back up, again because there is a
- 53:07Speaker 4: national narrative out, there however. Misguided it might be that
- 53:13Speaker 4: they blew this pick their only.
- 53:16Speaker 2: Way they're gonna blow it as if they don't play him.
- 53:18Speaker 4: More it's not an indictment Of travis as a, player
- 53:22Speaker 4: but the fact that you traded up to go get,
- 53:26Speaker 4: him gave up a one next year to go get,
- 53:30Speaker 4: him and you're only using them on one.
- 53:32Speaker 3: Side of the, ball or mostly on one side of the,
- 53:34Speaker 3: ball is not a good. Move if he's playing both
- 53:38Speaker 3: sides of the, ball and he's starring on both sides
- 53:41Speaker 3: of the, ball which is entirely capable of, doing by the,
- 53:44Speaker 3: way then it's a great. Move So i'm with.
- 53:47Speaker 4: You, guys he's got to be a starting corner and
- 53:50Speaker 4: a starting wide, receiver and he's got to play both for,
- 53:54Speaker 4: that because otherwise you could have gotten into the draft and,
- 53:56Speaker 4: said let's, see we could have taken corner this year
- 54:01Speaker 4: or wide. Receiver say they Took tech McMillan from from
- 54:05Speaker 4: The carolina The panthers picked.
- 54:07Speaker 3: Him you Take tech. McMillan then you go back next
- 54:09Speaker 3: in the next year's draft when your pick and you
- 54:11Speaker 3: get a corner who plays full time and could be
- 54:13Speaker 3: a top fifteen. Corner are you better off that way
- 54:17Speaker 3: than you are With Travis hunter only playing limited snaps
- 54:20Speaker 3: at the corner and limited snaps at the wide.
- 54:23Speaker 4: Receiver and the answer to that, question by the, way is, hell.
- 54:26Speaker 4: Yes so he's got to play. Bogues they have to
- 54:30Speaker 4: play in full time at.
- 54:30Speaker 5: Corner and here's the thing, TOO i was, skeptical LIKE
- 54:33Speaker 5: i think one of the hardest positions to go from
- 54:35Speaker 5: college to the pros is the cornerback, position just because
- 54:38Speaker 5: the speed, changes the coverages, change and to go against
- 54:42Speaker 5: some of the best wide receivers in the. League it's
- 54:44Speaker 5: a far cry away from playing you, Know pac twelve
- 54:47Speaker 5: or whatever you. Play i'm, sorry, Big, WELL i think
- 54:49Speaker 5: that The big Twelve big twelve against like teams like
- 54:51Speaker 5: you know whoever you're playing Against Colido, state, right, Right Arizona.
- 54:54Speaker 5: State but BECAUSE i went, there oh, yeah, sorry but, yeah,
- 54:57Speaker 5: yeah there we. Go but like he's shown like he's
- 55:00Speaker 5: giving you no reasons not to trust. Him he's shown
- 55:02Speaker 5: that he's the best cover. Guy you, know you're down
- 55:05Speaker 5: twenty one, points you finally put him On devine To
- 55:06Speaker 5: adams and he makes a play on.
- 55:08Speaker 2: Him.
- 55:08Speaker 5: Right so if you have a player right now that
- 55:10Speaker 5: is giving you no reasons why you can't trust, him
- 55:13Speaker 5: either on offense or on, defense then it's on you
- 55:16Speaker 5: to use him. Accordingly AND i agree with. YOU i
- 55:19Speaker 5: think that there needs to be more of a usage
- 55:20Speaker 5: because he's shown that he can handle it on both
- 55:22Speaker 5: sides of the. Ball SO i think going, forward he's
- 55:25Speaker 5: your best, corner he's your best wide. Receiver you have
- 55:28Speaker 5: to use him as.
- 55:28Speaker 2: SUCH i still haven't seen him join did, yet so
- 55:31Speaker 2: go for?
- 55:31Speaker 3: It well yeah. Yeah the two weeks before when he
- 55:35Speaker 3: played Against smith And, jigbook he did a really nice,
- 55:37Speaker 3: job but he was lined up with, him and when
- 55:38Speaker 3: he played Against, worthy he did a really nice. Job
- 55:41Speaker 3: when he lined up against those are two speedy guys
- 55:43Speaker 3: who can run In smith And jig Upstanding.
- 55:45Speaker 5: Pete we didn't talk about this because we didn't have the,
- 55:46Speaker 5: show but my favorite play from That chiefs, GAME i
- 55:49Speaker 5: get there's a couple of to choose from From Travis,
- 55:50Speaker 5: hunter was the fact That Travis, hunter you, know on
- 55:53Speaker 5: that goal, Route worthy beats him a little. Bit hunter.
- 55:57Speaker 5: Recovers it's stepper step with him and you know it
- 56:00Speaker 5: defends the ball and he's an then zone and he's
- 56:02Speaker 5: celebrating like That Examber morthy around of what a four
- 56:05Speaker 5: to two whatever it?
- 56:06Speaker 3: Was, yeah to have The hunter has the recovery. SPEED i.
- 56:09Speaker 3: See that's why he needs to, play.
- 56:11Speaker 5: To have the skill set to on a goal route
- 56:13Speaker 5: where it's full speed to turn your, hips to turn
- 56:16Speaker 5: your shoulders and your. Step first step With Xavier worthy
- 56:20Speaker 5: tells you all you need to know about how good
- 56:22Speaker 5: of a cover Corner Travis hunter.
- 56:23Speaker 2: Is let's talk a little bit about the offense, again
- 56:28Speaker 2: but specifically the run. Game right this, offense when it
- 56:31Speaker 2: has been, effective has been the run. GAME i looked
- 56:34Speaker 2: at the game book right, now thirteen carries from your
- 56:38Speaker 2: two running backs yesterday and that was a lot of
- 56:42Speaker 2: that was late too with. Garbage SO i know they're getting.
- 56:45Speaker 2: PENALTIES i know they're getting behind, it but seeing the
- 56:47Speaker 2: success even when they're running, it they're getting you, know
- 56:50Speaker 2: five yard to. Carry is there a way to do, This?
- 56:53Speaker 2: Peete is it play? Calling is he just getting away from,
- 56:56Speaker 2: it trying to get so focused on the pass. Game
- 56:58Speaker 2: how do you get back into it enforce the running
- 57:01Speaker 2: game to get. Going.
- 57:03Speaker 4: Well part of the problem is the passing game isn't very.
- 57:06Speaker 4: Good and when the passing game is not very, good
- 57:08Speaker 4: they bring somebody down and they say go, ahead and
- 57:10Speaker 4: we're gonna dare you to throw the.
- 57:11Speaker 3: Ball AND i think that's added to the problems with
- 57:14Speaker 3: the run.
- 57:14Speaker 4: Game the other part of it, is AND i said
- 57:16Speaker 4: it early in the, show, McCarry they brought him in
- 57:20Speaker 4: there to be.
- 57:21Speaker 3: A starting guard and be a good. One and for
- 57:23Speaker 3: three games he was pretty.
- 57:25Speaker 4: Good the last two weeks and it's particularly On sunday
- 57:30Speaker 4: he was not.
- 57:31Speaker 3: Good and when your guard's not, good there's gonna be.
- 57:33Speaker 4: Penetration they're getting up the field on, him and when
- 57:36Speaker 4: they get up the, field it's tough to.
- 57:38Speaker 3: Run here's the other part that we're missing No.
- 57:41Speaker 4: Strange, yeah when he's not in the, lineup the edge
- 57:44Speaker 4: doesn't get blocked like it does when he's in the,
- 57:46Speaker 4: lineup and so you got a lot of, penetration but thirteen.
- 57:49Speaker 3: Carries by the, way not nearly. Enough they need to
- 57:52Speaker 3: get back to get run in the.
- 57:53Speaker 5: Football, YEAH i, MEAN i Think breton's strange after these
- 57:57Speaker 5: last two. WEEKS i would offer him a lifetime contract
- 58:01Speaker 5: because you, know watching watching the forty Nine ers last NIGHT,
- 58:04Speaker 5: pm that Tri if you watched that, GAME i Heard
- 58:06Speaker 5: George kittle's name more than anything for a guy that
- 58:08Speaker 5: had zero, receptions but you saw what he was doing
- 58:10Speaker 5: in the run game and how much they missed him
- 58:12Speaker 5: With christian. McCaffrey McCaffrey had a monster game because of
- 58:16Speaker 5: the blocking Of George. Kittle AND i Think Brenton strange
- 58:19Speaker 5: fits that same. Mold so they're definitely missing you, Know Brenton,
- 58:24Speaker 5: strange and obviously you're missing him from the run, game
- 58:26Speaker 5: but also He's tarver's security, blanket you, know like when
- 58:29Speaker 5: when when stuff hits the, wall that's the first guy
- 58:32Speaker 5: you go. To AND i don't think, MONTHS i don't
- 58:34Speaker 5: Think long has earned that type of respect yet in
- 58:37Speaker 5: terms of If i'm a, Defense they're not scaring me
- 58:40Speaker 5: running across the middle right?
- 58:41Speaker 3: Now which one of those guys dropped one? Yesterday one of.
- 58:44Speaker 2: Them The hunter, LINE i think two for.
- 58:46Speaker 3: Three, yeah here's the other.
- 58:50Speaker 4: Thing they had to use the extra tackle a couple
- 58:52Speaker 4: of times on the on the run game because they
- 58:54Speaker 4: they don't Have. Strange that's, why in large part because
- 58:57Speaker 4: they do not have, him AND i think that.
- 58:59Speaker 3: Misses but back.
- 59:00Speaker 4: To, McCarry when is mylamb coming off The it should
- 59:04Speaker 4: be maybe after the bye he might be.
- 59:05Speaker 2: BACK i think. SO i think it's kind of that
- 59:07Speaker 2: middle period where like maybe they could push it and
- 59:10Speaker 2: like he's not, active like he's always kind of in the,
- 59:12Speaker 2: mix like on the injury, report but maybe could be
- 59:15Speaker 2: activated at any. Point they just haven't kind of made that,
- 59:18Speaker 2: move and as you, mentioned by week coming, up it
- 59:20Speaker 2: could be the time to do.
- 59:21Speaker 4: That we thought we thought at one point before the
- 59:24Speaker 4: season it might be him Taking cleveland.
- 59:26Speaker 2: SPOT i think the other side, Now.
- 59:27Speaker 4: I'm not so sure he's not going to take the other.
- 59:30Speaker 4: SPOT i, Mean i'm let's put it this. Way IF
- 59:32Speaker 4: i was coaching that team right, now my right, guard
- 59:35Speaker 4: no matter what his contract is would be on. Notice,
- 59:39Speaker 4: yeah that's how bad he was On, Sunday, PETE i.
- 59:40Speaker 2: Think we have a fan question about your offensive line,
- 59:42Speaker 2: thoughts so we might save that for coming up BECAUSE
- 59:44Speaker 2: i think we want to know what our thoughts are for.
- 59:46Speaker 2: THAT i think another thing we just we did say
- 59:50Speaker 2: this About, strange but he's probably your most reliable pass
- 59:52Speaker 2: catcher when the season, started so you're forgetting that factor as.
- 59:55Speaker 2: Well Trevor larrence also doesn't Have Brenton, strange who is
- 59:57Speaker 2: another person that maybe he had some trust in going
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: into this. Matchup but we talked a lot going into the,
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: week at least here With jaguars about that coaching, matchup,
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: Right Liam cohen going up Skain sean, McVay who's one
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: of the, best and just kind of what they wanted
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: to be. HERE i felt it was early to even
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: kind of get into that because he doesn't even have
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: the players he wants, yet you, know he's only been
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: here six. Games but what was kind OF i guess
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: a positive is How i'm going to look at it
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: is when you Watch sean mcvay's offense, run you're you
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: see What liam wants to, do and maybe he doesn't
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: have all the personnel quite yet to get that done
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: or or what exactly is going. On you, know the
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: penalty doesn't have The stafford. Either, yeah we would all
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: love him At stafford at this, point just the poison
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: and what he does out, there just the, control the
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: mastery of that. Offense it's. Hopeful i'm gonna go this.
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: Way it's hopeful if they can get things running the
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: way they want, to that's the success that you can,
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: see and you see a little bit of what they
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: want to be.
- 1:00:54Speaker 5: Doing this is WHAT i talked about on the pregame
- 1:00:56Speaker 5: show because Obviously Pokin nakua one of the best wider
- 1:00:59Speaker 5: series in being, out people are making a big deal about,
- 1:01:02Speaker 5: it AND i just, thought, LIKE i don't think The
- 1:01:04Speaker 5: rams really worried About pookin Ni cool being out because
- 1:01:06Speaker 5: you're not really playing Against pokin a coor you're not
- 1:01:08Speaker 5: playing against The Vonta. Adams you're playing against A sean
- 1:01:11Speaker 5: mcvay's scheme and it doesn't matter who's in, there he's
- 1:01:14Speaker 5: gonna find ways to score with the, football, RIGHT i,
- 1:01:16Speaker 5: mean we want to talk about. It it Was ferguson right From,
- 1:01:19Speaker 5: Yeah SO i had no idea Who ferguson was he
- 1:01:22Speaker 5: scores a, touchdown my son, GOES i didn't know he
- 1:01:23Speaker 5: was IN. Nfi how do you know? Him why At?
- 1:01:25Speaker 5: Oregon my son's a Big oregon. Fan like you're, saying
- 1:01:28Speaker 5: you've seen players that you've never heard of before making
- 1:01:31Speaker 5: big plays for the. Team so you, Realize, okay this
- 1:01:33Speaker 5: is more about the scheme than it is about even
- 1:01:37Speaker 5: who the player. Is AND i think you saw a
- 1:01:39Speaker 5: great game plan from, McVeigh and to me it was
- 1:01:42Speaker 5: it was clearer to the rams on. Offense you have
- 1:01:45Speaker 5: a defense that likes to show. Blitz you have a
- 1:01:48Speaker 5: defense that likes to bring. Pressure McVay countered that by
- 1:01:51Speaker 5: showing a run with a bunch of tight, ends with
- 1:01:53Speaker 5: a tounch of tight bunch. Formations but then they they
- 1:01:57Speaker 5: branched off and you had guys wide open because This
- 1:02:00Speaker 5: jaygar's defense wasn't accustomed to trying to cover guys so
- 1:02:02Speaker 5: close to line of. Scrimmage and that's What sean McVay.
- 1:02:05Speaker 5: Did and, listen this game could have been a lot
- 1:02:07Speaker 5: worse beat because if you remember the second, quarter like
- 1:02:10Speaker 5: a minute left on the, clock they took a.
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: Knee took a knee that they had a nine.
- 1:02:15Speaker 5: Yard game in the first play and they took a.
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: Mercy that's HOW i.
- 1:02:20Speaker 5: Treat my son When i'm whipping his butt in college football,
- 1:02:23Speaker 5: PlayStation where it's, like, okay, Buddy i'm beating you by.
- 1:02:25Speaker 5: Forty i'm, like let's let's go on a. Halftime i'll
- 1:02:27Speaker 5: just take the knee and what we're reassess her like?
- 1:02:30Speaker 5: That that game that WAS i.
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: Was sitting there yelling. Him we were watching the, game
- 1:02:34Speaker 3: And i'm, like what is he? Doing why wouldn't you?
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: Go you had to almost two minutes? Ago and and
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: he it was always like he, knew, well they're not
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: coming back on, Me So i'm just.
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: Gonna put a little professional.
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: Currents here's the other thing about real quick on on the,
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: defense they didn't even run the.
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: Ball the genesis of that rammed offense is to run the.
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: Ball that's the basis of. It they roll off.
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: Play they didn't even run the, ball even barely even
- 1:02:57Speaker 4: try to run the. Ball how many carries did they have.
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: Got in the as?
- 1:03:01Speaker 5: Well it's.
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: Not.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: Many, Yeah Karen williams had, Twelve korum had twelve twenty
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: four and then step for twenty.
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: Four and have a lot of those came late in
- 1:03:17Speaker 4: the game when they, did and so the bottom line
- 1:03:20Speaker 4: is the bottom. LINE i, personally Though, AUSTIN i would
- 1:03:24Speaker 4: have man and If i'm playing The rams And nikup
- 1:03:26Speaker 4: is not, there they don't have.
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: Speed they have a lot of, things and they don't have.
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: Speed Devontay adams is one of the all time great
- 1:03:34Speaker 4: route runners in the.
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: History of the.
- 1:03:36Speaker 4: League, yeah but he's older and he does he never
- 1:03:38Speaker 4: was a, Burner So i'm gonna beat them LIKE i
- 1:03:41Speaker 4: would have Taken Travis hunter and put him On Devontae
- 1:03:44Speaker 4: adams and rolled my coverage to everybody else and made
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: sure those boots if they're not running the, ball those
- 1:03:50Speaker 4: boots where you're getting over pursued into the.
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: Run, game they shouldn't be a. Factor, ever and they
- 1:03:54Speaker 3: really weren't running the ball early in that. Game at,
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: HALFTIME i can't imagine they had many. Yards the WAY
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: i watched that came, out they didn't run the ball
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: very much in the first. Half, No SO i THINK
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: i think they got caught out of position a bunch,
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: that you, know they got, fooled their eyes got fooled
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: a little.
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: Bit, yeah and, Penalties, yeah we had a rough.
- 1:04:14Speaker 4: GAME i, mean it was a rough game for. Doing
- 1:04:16Speaker 4: Jordan lewis didn't have a good game.
- 1:04:17Speaker 5: Either you know. What and then there's a narrative going
- 1:04:19Speaker 5: around to. That, okay it's essentially the teacher beating the, student,
- 1:04:23Speaker 5: right the student still has a lot to, learn WHICH
- 1:04:26Speaker 5: i don't buy at. ALL i, mean when we talk
- 1:04:28Speaker 5: about The sean McVay coaching, tree and right now it's
- 1:04:30Speaker 5: seems to be paying a lot of. Dividends Matt lafleur
- 1:04:33Speaker 5: is undefeated Against sean. McVay i Think Matt lafleur right
- 1:04:36Speaker 5: now In Green bay is four and oh against The, rams,
- 1:04:39Speaker 5: Right so like that that that excuse isn't get enough
- 1:04:42Speaker 5: for me, Either pete where it's, like, oh, well you
- 1:04:43Speaker 5: know he kind of had his, no, NO i, MEAN
- 1:04:45Speaker 5: i mean you, didn't because it's shown that he can be.
- 1:04:48Speaker 5: Beat it's just whether you don't have the personnel quite,
- 1:04:51Speaker 5: yet whether you don't have the guys buying in quite.
- 1:04:53Speaker 5: Yet but it was abundantly clear that one offense was
- 1:04:56Speaker 5: a well oiled machine and the other one just not
- 1:05:00Speaker 5: quite there. Yet, yeah not quite there.
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: Yet all, right more to. Come we're gonna keep it
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: real about the special team situation the. Kicker we haven't
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: talked about it. Yet all of that On Jaguars Happy,
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: hour presented to you by Mister Tubby's.
- 1:05:13Speaker 6: Wings, yeah it's you, know you feel for the guy
- 1:05:23Speaker 6: in terms of wanting to put him in a position
- 1:05:26Speaker 6: and be. Successful you, KNOW i thought about that decision
- 1:05:30Speaker 6: a little bit because it was twenty one nothing at that.
- 1:05:32Speaker 6: Point you, know you just kind of wanted to get
- 1:05:36Speaker 6: some points on the board to see a little positivity
- 1:05:40Speaker 6: when you looked up at the scoreboard and we ended
- 1:05:44Speaker 6: up missing. It SO i just got to go talk
- 1:05:46Speaker 6: to him BEFORE i comment on.
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: It welcome back To Happy Hour feeling in for JPM,
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: Ka Nannie, Steven's Pete Prisco Austin lane WITH Us jags.
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- 1:06:02Speaker 2: are going to keep it real right. NOW i feel
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: Like pete always keeps it. Real, austin you, Too but
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: we haven't talked much about this. Yet cam little missing
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: kicks and THEN i feel like the play calling then
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: is changing because of having no trust in the kicker as.
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: WELL i think they went for six fourth.
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: Downs some, Seven, yeah a lot of seven.
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: And in territory as, well where you're, like and yes
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: there was, rain there was weather involved in, that BUT
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: i think was it four miss field goals in five? Weeks?
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: Now for For Caim, little is this a kicking problem
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: at this? Point?
- 1:06:36Speaker 4: Pete, yes, absolutely one hundred. Percent and, look your kicker has.
- 1:06:42Speaker 4: Issues but fourth and, seven And i'm going to get
- 1:06:44Speaker 4: On Liam cohen a little for that.
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: One you got to kick your field goal. There it
- 1:06:47Speaker 3: would have only been a one thirty five yarder If
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: i'm not. Mistaken if that guy can't make a thirty
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: five yard field, goal then you gotta caught. Him that's
- 1:06:55Speaker 3: the bottom.
- 1:06:56Speaker 4: Line SO i DON'T i know it impacted the play calling,
- 1:06:59Speaker 4: somewhat but fourth and seven you got to get points
- 1:07:02Speaker 4: on the.
- 1:07:02Speaker 3: Board you have.
- 1:07:03Speaker 4: To SO i didn't like that call at. All but
- 1:07:06Speaker 4: the kicker is an issue right, now and if he.
- 1:07:08Speaker 3: Doesn't fix, it you got to send a packing.
- 1:07:13Speaker 4: Dude he's got about another two games and if he
- 1:07:16Speaker 4: doesn't fix, this he's. Done you know how this is
- 1:07:20Speaker 4: in this, League i've seen many a kicker who had
- 1:07:23Speaker 4: a power leg who went.
- 1:07:26Speaker 3: Bad they got rid of.
- 1:07:28Speaker 4: Him now if you get rid of, them what will
- 1:07:30Speaker 4: happen is probably what.
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: Happened With Jason. Meyers he's going to go somewhere else
- 1:07:33Speaker 3: and become a pretty good. Gigger so you gotta be
- 1:07:36Speaker 3: careful with.
- 1:07:36Speaker 4: It but he has no. Confidence right, now he's shaking his.
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: Head you can tell he's just he's just totally lost.
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: It coach came. Out coach speaking today on a media
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: availability while we've been on said he's not bringing in
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: anybody else at this. Point they're fully confident In Cam
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: BUT i don't, know And i'm not saying they should
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: quit on him by any. Means he's clearly talented. Player
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: it's a some sort OF i don't know if it's
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: the yips are just a mental thing at this, point
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: AND i think part of it maybe when you've always
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: had success and you've never had to battle through something like.
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: This he's very. Young we've mentioned what twenty two at this,
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: point so for him to now be having this at
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: the highest, LEVEL i think that's something he's going to
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: have to learn to battle. Through But, austin do you
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: try to bring in competition is that not helpful at this,
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: point what.
- 1:08:17Speaker 5: Would you Be, YEAH i mean if we're having the
- 1:08:19Speaker 5: conversation of fourth and seven from the thirty five and
- 1:08:24Speaker 5: you're not gonna kick it because maybe you're worried about
- 1:08:27Speaker 5: the result of kicking. It and by the, WAY i
- 1:08:29Speaker 5: shout out To liam con And Trevor, LAWRENCE i swore
- 1:08:32Speaker 5: in front of my son watching the, game WHICH i
- 1:08:33Speaker 5: THOUGHT i wouldn't do this, year but That Trevor lawrence
- 1:08:35Speaker 5: brought Back oh, yeah, YEAH i mean not since The
- 1:08:38Speaker 5: Blake bortal picked six back to back. Games what was
- 1:08:41Speaker 5: a curse word drop A thankfully my son understoodies like.
- 1:08:44Speaker 5: THAT i get, it like that was as. Bad i'm, like,
- 1:08:46Speaker 5: yeah it wasn't. Good BUT i think you have to
- 1:08:50Speaker 5: bring somebody in BECAUSE i think if You're James, gladstone
- 1:08:53Speaker 5: you've already set a precedent of there's got to be
- 1:08:56Speaker 5: a standard around, here and right now that standard isn't
- 1:08:59Speaker 5: being reached with With Cam Little AND i, understand like
- 1:09:03Speaker 5: a kicker is, different, Right like this isn't like a
- 1:09:05Speaker 5: wide receiver dropping a ball where it, say, okay try
- 1:09:06Speaker 5: to get him go on some, more get in some,
- 1:09:08Speaker 5: confidence try to scheme up. Something either you make your
- 1:09:11Speaker 5: kicks or you. Don't and right now he's not making his.
- 1:09:13Speaker 5: Kicks AND i hate to say, it but if you
- 1:09:15Speaker 5: watch around THE, nfl a fifty yard kick now it's
- 1:09:18Speaker 5: a chip. SHOT i never thought i'd be saying, that but,
- 1:09:21Speaker 5: like anybody's making a fifty yard. Kick so if that's
- 1:09:24Speaker 5: the conversation we're, having it doesn't hurt to bring somebody else.
- 1:09:28Speaker 5: IN i don't care if eventually somebody else comes in
- 1:09:30Speaker 5: and replaces him and he goes To seattle Like myers
- 1:09:33Speaker 5: dead he's An all, pro that's, Fine just LIKE i
- 1:09:35Speaker 5: don't care About Quincy williams leaving here and then he
- 1:09:37Speaker 5: goes To New york and he's An All pro and.
- 1:09:39Speaker 5: Stuff it's just like it's not working here right. Now
- 1:09:42Speaker 5: AND i think all you can do is at least
- 1:09:44Speaker 5: bring in some competition and make him feel comfortable a
- 1:09:47Speaker 5: little bit because.
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: He's extra points. Too yeah, yeah so it's it's just.
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: Too in that other game.
- 1:09:55Speaker 3: Too yeah, yeah SO i think they need they need.
- 1:09:58Speaker 3: TO i wouldn't bring It boddy in.
- 1:10:00Speaker 4: Yet BUT i tell you, what if he misses the
- 1:10:03Speaker 4: kick in the next, game not only is he Not
- 1:10:06Speaker 4: i'm bringing somebody in and if he kicks, him he's
- 1:10:08Speaker 4: gonna be my.
- 1:10:09Speaker 3: Kicker you're gonna cut him and you. Can't you gotta
- 1:10:11Speaker 3: have confidence your.
- 1:10:12Speaker 4: Kicker but here's the other part of, that the whole
- 1:10:16Speaker 4: make the set of the yard field goal in?
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: Preseason what did that do to the?
- 1:10:19Speaker 5: Kid it didn't help, Right.
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: Well it's not let's say it's not the. Leg he's
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: he's kicking it far. Enough it's just not, right the correct.
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: Right but do you put so much into you know
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: WHAT i?
- 1:10:30Speaker 5: Mean everywhere we're all talking between.
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: It sure he, can he can boom, it but he's
- 1:10:35Speaker 3: not putting between the. Uprights it doesn't.
- 1:10:37Speaker 5: Count, YEAH i mean in retrospect and hopefully this this
- 1:10:40Speaker 5: thing shakes out and he gains more confidence. Again but
- 1:10:42Speaker 5: that's seventy yard in the. Preseason that obviously doesn't count
- 1:10:44Speaker 5: any kind of record. Books that may have been been
- 1:10:47Speaker 5: his biggest. Detrimental, see but he's in The hall Of.
- 1:10:51Speaker 4: Fame the balls in The hall Of, fame so he's
- 1:10:53Speaker 4: got that going for. Him he just can't make any
- 1:10:54Speaker 4: kicks when it.
- 1:10:55Speaker 3: Counts what about the. Punter the punter hadn't been as great.
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: Either special teams as a whole is a little also for,
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: me that one little bit of momentum you almost got
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: With Parker washington's kick, Return and yes it was ticky.
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: Tacky DO i think it was a great, Call but,
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: no Jarn jone shouldn't have been anywhere near it because
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: park already had the ball and was running by the,
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: guy so he shouldn't even have been in the. Mix
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: and with that, field he was gonna fly right by
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: him with the wet field, Anyway so for, me don't
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: give them the opportunity to make that. Call, yeah and
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: just that. Frustration so FOR i, mean there are many
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: problems on the team right, now but even special teams
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: not even helping you.
- 1:11:29Speaker 3: Out you're, like what's Slogan cook's average right? Now it's
- 1:11:31Speaker 3: got to be. SIGNIFICANT i haven't looked at it, Today
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: but not from, Him.
- 1:11:37Speaker 5: Pete you've been around a lot of regimes and a
- 1:11:39Speaker 5: lot of coaches and. EVERYTHING i, mean when you have
- 1:11:43Speaker 5: the players that you count on that aren't playing up
- 1:11:46Speaker 5: to their, potential whether it's on special, teams whether it's
- 1:11:49Speaker 5: A Brian thomas, JUNIOR i, mean you can go all
- 1:11:51Speaker 5: around the board. Here if you have players that aren't
- 1:11:53Speaker 5: playing up their. Potential and it's not just one, phase
- 1:11:55Speaker 5: not one side of the, ball it's. EVERYWHERE i, mean
- 1:11:58Speaker 5: do you have to take yourself buy like as a
- 1:11:59Speaker 5: co and look at yourself and be, Like, okay whatever
- 1:12:02Speaker 5: we're doing in terms of our, schedule in terms of
- 1:12:04Speaker 5: practice and, everything it's not. Working and do you almost
- 1:12:07Speaker 5: like tear it down and then build it back up
- 1:12:09Speaker 5: in this bye week and kind of restructure everything because it's.
- 1:12:12Speaker 3: It that's, panic that's. Planic THOUGH i think it's too
- 1:12:16Speaker 3: early for.
- 1:12:16Speaker 5: That, OKAY i think it's too.
- 1:12:17Speaker 3: Early by the, way they do have the same special
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: teams coach. Too yeah they. Did they kept.
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: Them, yeah He, farrewell.
- 1:12:24Speaker 3: He, farmwell they kept. Him so it's the same. Guy
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: so it can't.
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: Be So logan's averaging forty eight yards forty three, net
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: it's about middle of THE i mean for. Him were
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: you seeing a lot better from?
- 1:12:35Speaker 3: Him? Yeah and he's, Middle so he's middle the deep,
- 1:12:40Speaker 3: snapper If i'm not. Mistaken there's been talk that he
- 1:12:43Speaker 3: had been as GOOD i had.
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: Heard.
- 1:12:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: EARLY i think some OF i Mean cambell was kicking,
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: now BUT i think some of it was the. Snap
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: there was some snapping issues early preseason and then early
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: in the season and then he was also got backed.
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: UP i THINK i don't remember it was The seattle
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: game or what another game you made a tackle and
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: he got hurt as, Well, so, uh some question marks around.
- 1:13:03Speaker 5: That you, know it's wild. Too we're sitting, here they're
- 1:13:05Speaker 5: four and.
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: THREE i know you told me at the beginning of
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: Are i've been ecstatic And i'm, like.
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: Turns on with.
- 1:13:12Speaker 4: It but the problem is the way they got to
- 1:13:14Speaker 4: four and. Three, yeah because you were four and one
- 1:13:16Speaker 4: and now you were four And three's.
- 1:13:18Speaker 5: Why, Yeah and it's it's what the wins look like
- 1:13:20Speaker 5: where you, know some can call it, luck some some
- 1:13:23Speaker 5: called garbage. Wins. Whatever you still got the w that's
- 1:13:25Speaker 5: the most important. Thing but it's what the losses look
- 1:13:28Speaker 5: like as.
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: Well and it feels like they still have more to
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: obviously after these last two.
- 1:13:32Speaker 4: Losses but even the week that's gonna Define Liam cohen
- 1:13:36Speaker 4: as a head coach this week and next, week this
- 1:13:39Speaker 4: is when this is when you find out who he.
- 1:13:42Speaker 3: Is AND i believe in.
- 1:13:42Speaker 4: HIM i think he's done a great job so, far
- 1:13:44Speaker 4: but this is when you're gonna find out who he
- 1:13:47Speaker 4: is as a.
- 1:13:47Speaker 5: Coach all.
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- 1:13:58Speaker 2: little bit about by week potential changes and there's a lot
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: of fan questions about what this team is going to
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: look like going. Forward austin And pete will have the
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: answers for you here On Jaguars Happy hour presented by
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- 1:14:07Speaker 11: Wings certain things that today maybe little things that cause
- 1:14:18Speaker 11: us to get pushed back on the drive or just
- 1:14:21Speaker 11: like little stuff like. That for like it like stalls
- 1:14:23Speaker 11: a drive or.
- 1:14:24Speaker 5: Whatever if you.
- 1:14:24Speaker 11: Finally get some good going and you got a flag
- 1:14:27Speaker 11: or something and there's just stalls a.
- 1:14:28Speaker 5: Drive LIKE i, said.
- 1:14:29Speaker 11: Just got to execute and, finish finish off the drives
- 1:14:34Speaker 11: the exasperated.
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: SIDE i feel like that's a lot of us are
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: feeling right now with this. Offense Kannani stevens in FOR Jp,
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: Shadwick Pete, Prisco Austin. Lane Jaguars Happy hour. Continues this
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: is the second hour presented By Mister Chubby's wings and
- 1:14:46Speaker 2: it is time for fan. Questions we've been talking about.
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: This some of them we've, addressed but we're going to
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: reiterate what we've been going over. Today so our first
- 1:14:54Speaker 2: fan question from Bush, Drive rich, says do you think
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: our head coach is being in giving up on the
- 1:15:01Speaker 2: run so? Early in the past two? Games we've been
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: getting positive yards when we do run And, Pete i'm
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: going to double down on this question a little bit
- 1:15:08Speaker 2: because do you think this might be some of the
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: original play calls and they're getting out of it as
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: well because we have seen a lot of changes at
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage.
- 1:15:17Speaker 4: Lately, yeah we don't know the answer to that, question
- 1:15:20Speaker 4: BUT i do know that when he comes to the
- 1:15:22Speaker 4: line of, scrimmage if he has a, run he has
- 1:15:25Speaker 4: a pass behind it and he can check to.
- 1:15:27Speaker 3: That SO i don't know if he's checking to those
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: or what the situation. Is but no matter what it, is.
- 1:15:35Speaker 4: You send in a play call and give him two
- 1:15:38Speaker 4: runs right like there was a run they ran.
- 1:15:44Speaker 3: First. Off they run way too Many jets sweeps to my,
- 1:15:46Speaker 3: life you know HOW i. Feel, also the.
- 1:15:48Speaker 2: Fact the book is not out on that third down
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: or fourth down when they run it to the, Right i'm.
- 1:15:53Speaker 12: Surprised they ran one to the right the other day
- 1:15:58Speaker 12: and it was a full overload to that, side and
- 1:16:01Speaker 12: so what you should have done is checked out of
- 1:16:03Speaker 12: that play and run to the weak side and run the.
- 1:16:07Speaker 4: Football BUT i THINK i think he's checking out of some.
- 1:16:10Speaker 4: Runs but you got to get back to running the,
- 1:16:12Speaker 4: football no question about.
- 1:16:13Speaker 5: It, YEAH i MEAN i think to start the game,
- 1:16:15Speaker 5: out it looked like he checked out of a run
- 1:16:18Speaker 5: to go to that pass and then he gets sacked
- 1:16:20Speaker 5: for the first play of the, game, right and you
- 1:16:21Speaker 5: already put your team behind a ball a little. Bit
- 1:16:23Speaker 5: SO i think going forward you have to understand that
- 1:16:26Speaker 5: your identity has to be to run the football right
- 1:16:28Speaker 5: and everything comes. Second you're not gonna be A Baker
- 1:16:32Speaker 5: mayfield Led buccaneers team that can pass forty fifty times
- 1:16:35Speaker 5: a game and win football. Games, simply it's not what
- 1:16:37Speaker 5: you have right. Now so the more you can Use
- 1:16:40Speaker 5: travis etn and hopefully Use tuton as, well who's kind
- 1:16:43Speaker 5: of an, AFTERTHOUGHT i feel like in this, offense.
- 1:16:45Speaker 2: How we've gotten to that point, already which is.
- 1:16:47Speaker 5: Which is, Wild BUT i think you have to use
- 1:16:49Speaker 5: a lot more of them just to keep defenses honest
- 1:16:52Speaker 5: and try to control the clock win football, games.
- 1:16:54Speaker 4: By the, way If tuton doesn't slip on his, Run,
- 1:16:57Speaker 4: yeah he's got a nice little crease there to go
- 1:16:59Speaker 4: to that thing up and turn it into a big.
- 1:17:01Speaker 3: Play any other, Thing, austin you said he thought he
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: checked out of the first one you can do a?
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: Pass he made the right Jack.
- 1:17:08Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, PETER i, MEAN i mean check real.
- 1:17:13Speaker 5: Quick you've been a Big tuton guy and and, rhetoricully
- 1:17:17Speaker 5: so he's showing. Glimpses if you could go back right,
- 1:17:20Speaker 5: now you're taking him or. Scataboo, WELL i MEAN i still.
- 1:17:25Speaker 3: Take i'd still take.
- 1:17:26Speaker 5: Because because because it's back to. Back i'm just saying
- 1:17:28Speaker 5: they went, like you, know right next to each.
- 1:17:30Speaker 3: Other, YEAH i still.
- 1:17:31Speaker 4: Take i'd still take To.
- 1:17:33Speaker 3: WELL i think is gonna get it. Going there's gonna
- 1:17:36Speaker 3: be a home runs. Available and you know what else
- 1:17:38Speaker 3: he started to. Do he started to block better in
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: the passing, game which he needed to.
- 1:17:41Speaker 5: Do all.
- 1:17:42Speaker 2: Right we talked a little bit about, this but could
- 1:17:45Speaker 2: a lot of the offensive woes be tied to Losing Brenton? Strange,
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: also Is trevor just not seeing the? FIELD i Think
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: I'll Strange he's won for so much on both.
- 1:17:59Speaker 4: Sides Having, yeah not Having strange is enormous because it's
- 1:18:03Speaker 4: a run game and the passing, game And trevor's not
- 1:18:06Speaker 4: seeing the. Field to answer that, question And i'll Be
- 1:18:09Speaker 4: i'll be FOR i was a bullish On Trevor lawrence
- 1:18:12Speaker 4: AND i still think he can get out of his.
- 1:18:14Speaker 3: Funk but the, processing seeing the, field the things that
- 1:18:18Speaker 3: you have to do to be a star quarterback in this,
- 1:18:20Speaker 3: league he's not doing right. Now for whatever, reason he's
- 1:18:23Speaker 3: just not doing.
- 1:18:24Speaker 5: It, yeah whether it's you can call it a lack of,
- 1:18:26Speaker 5: CONFIDENCE i Know moxie gets thrown around a, lot whatever
- 1:18:29Speaker 5: you want to call, it he just he's not bringing
- 1:18:31Speaker 5: it to the table right. Now AND i think once,
- 1:18:33Speaker 5: again the ability to run the football is only going
- 1:18:35Speaker 5: to help with. That AND i think Losing Breton strange
- 1:18:38Speaker 5: has hurt.
- 1:18:38Speaker 2: You it's hurt in the past game and it's hurt
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: in the blocking game for running as. Well so let's
- 1:18:44Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the offensive. Line, pete this
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: was the QUESTION i was talking, About Kaos Knox. Pete
- 1:18:48Speaker 2: who are your five starting five offensive lineman moving? Forward
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: can major changes happen in the bye? Week is it
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: able to can you can you just do it that quick?
- 1:18:59Speaker 4: Here They that's the question THAT i mentioned my. Them
- 1:19:02Speaker 4: If milam can come back and, PLAY i would consider.
- 1:19:04Speaker 2: Him where would you put right?
- 1:19:06Speaker 3: Guards? Five right? Guard AND i know he.
- 1:19:07Speaker 4: DIDN'T i don't think he worked there much, though did
- 1:19:10Speaker 4: He he worked at right, tackle he worked at left
- 1:19:12Speaker 4: guard him.
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: Everywhere you work at right, guard probably not right guard,
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: specifically but they had him a little bit of. Everywhere
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: would you keep the tackles the way they?
- 1:19:19Speaker 3: ARE i don't know what other options you.
- 1:19:21Speaker 5: Have what are your?
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: Options can you Move anton left and Put tackle Or
- 1:19:30Speaker 2: tuma on the right?
- 1:19:31Speaker 4: Side, YEAH i mean you could consider, that you, know
- 1:19:34Speaker 4: and up And harrison wasn't great On, sunday but Until
- 1:19:37Speaker 4: sunday he'd actually been pretty. Good so, yeah, Look Walker
- 1:19:42Speaker 4: little had a terrible game Against. Seattle he had a
- 1:19:45Speaker 4: couple of bad plays On. Sunday he wasn't awful On.
- 1:19:47Speaker 4: Sunday the left guard was terrible Against, seattle was okay On,
- 1:19:53Speaker 4: sunday not.
- 1:19:53Speaker 3: Great hainesy played okay On. Sunday the right guard was
- 1:19:57Speaker 3: the problem and and he kind of bled over to
- 1:20:00Speaker 3: the right. Tackle so IF i had to make one,
- 1:20:03Speaker 3: CHANGE i consider it i'd consider right, Guard i'd look
- 1:20:06Speaker 3: at see if milam or then a dog will play
- 1:20:09Speaker 3: there in the.
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: Preseason here's the.
- 1:20:13Speaker 3: Problem when you do, that you're admitting a money.
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: Mistake, yeah and you just brought them in.
- 1:20:20Speaker 3: Right you're admitting a money.
- 1:20:21Speaker 4: Mistake and teams are less apt to admit money mistakes
- 1:20:24Speaker 4: than you'd.
- 1:20:25Speaker 3: Believe we've seen that.
- 1:20:26Speaker 5: Before for that would kind of be the, first like
- 1:20:29Speaker 5: In James glasson saying, hey my, bad you know like,
- 1:20:32Speaker 5: that that would be the first instance right, There And
- 1:20:34Speaker 5: i'm not sure if you don't have that in your.
- 1:20:35Speaker 2: Resume i'll give them credit for, it, though because as
- 1:20:37Speaker 2: much as we talked about the past regime not emitting,
- 1:20:39Speaker 2: mistakes that was one of my biggest issues because this
- 1:20:42Speaker 2: is a you, know it's. Gambles when you're drafting. Pick
- 1:20:44Speaker 2: you don't know what anybody's going to. Be, necessarily you're
- 1:20:47Speaker 2: gambling on a lot of. Stuff AND i think the
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: last regime's inability to acknowledge that really hurt. Them so
- 1:20:52Speaker 2: hopefully that's not something we'll have to deal.
- 1:20:55Speaker 3: With. You, well let's let's be. Real they left the
- 1:20:57Speaker 3: cover Bear, okay.
- 1:20:58Speaker 4: The cover was so you go out and you got
- 1:21:02Speaker 4: to try and with the money to fix fix what
- 1:21:05Speaker 4: was the mess that was left. Behind and there's not
- 1:21:07Speaker 4: exactly a big glut of offensive lineman look a good
- 1:21:11Speaker 4: offensive lineman on the, market so you probably end up
- 1:21:13Speaker 4: overpaying for a guy in McCarry who was just.
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: Okay, well it's also someone that played multiple positions, right
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: so we don't even know if he necessarily has like
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: a home position because HE'S i think he had played
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: all five positions on the line with that was like
- 1:21:26Speaker 2: the thing coming.
- 1:21:26Speaker 3: In it was a left guard for The ravens last
- 1:21:29Speaker 3: year and was just, okay.
- 1:21:32Speaker 5: Yeah and then when it comes to the tackles real quick,
- 1:21:33Speaker 5: TOO i think Like harrison's probably been the most consistent
- 1:21:36Speaker 5: tackle that they have right, now and he's playing his
- 1:21:39Speaker 5: best at right. TACKLE i wouldn't try to switch it
- 1:21:41Speaker 5: up now and, Say, okay you're doing pretty well over,
- 1:21:43Speaker 5: there but you know, what go to left tackle because
- 1:21:44Speaker 5: it's more. Important LIKE i JUST i would keep it
- 1:21:46Speaker 5: where it's. At hopefully walk a little can pick up
- 1:21:48Speaker 5: his end of the deal a little, bit and if,
- 1:21:51Speaker 5: not maybe you explort some. Options BUT i would keep
- 1:21:54Speaker 5: the tackles right now where they're, at.
- 1:21:56Speaker 4: And then they nakes floor options and you got the
- 1:21:58Speaker 4: same problem you have With Tyson. Campbell got a regime
- 1:22:00Speaker 4: that gave a guy a big. Contract he's probably too
- 1:22:03Speaker 4: big for what he is.
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: Tackle, yep we'll see what changes come about in the bye.
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: Week another bye week kind of. Question If pete was
- 1:22:12Speaker 2: In gladstone's, position what moves or decisions would he make
- 1:22:16Speaker 2: during the bye, week if any at, ALL.
- 1:22:21Speaker 3: I would call around the league to see IF i
- 1:22:22Speaker 3: could find a defensive tackle first and, foremost you Know
- 1:22:28Speaker 3: Zach sealer In. Miami you, know If miami has a
- 1:22:32Speaker 3: maybe one of the edge rushers In miami was willing
- 1:22:34Speaker 3: to trade him for a ham sandwich or something Because
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: miami is gonna have a fire sale As phillips And
- 1:22:41Speaker 3: chubb or veteran pass. Rushers Zac seeler just got a new.
- 1:22:44Speaker 3: Contract BUT i looked at it and it's not that.
- 1:22:46Speaker 3: Prohibitive you can bring him.
- 1:22:48Speaker 4: In he hadn't played as, well And i'll give you,
- 1:22:49Speaker 4: that but you, know he's been a good player in his.
- 1:22:52Speaker 4: Career he got, contract and now he hasn't been as
- 1:22:54Speaker 4: good in that mess In. Miami but maybe you bring
- 1:22:55Speaker 4: a guy like that. IN i would ALSO i. Don't
- 1:23:00Speaker 4: we don't know the answer to. This how injured is?
- 1:23:02Speaker 4: Strange they said a? Month is it going to be?
- 1:23:04Speaker 3: Longer what will? BE i would if The ravens lose
- 1:23:08Speaker 3: another game and they have a fire, Sale i'd call
- 1:23:10Speaker 3: On Mark andrews as, well because he's in the final years.
- 1:23:12Speaker 3: Deal you can make a. Move those are some of
- 1:23:14Speaker 3: the MOVES i would. Consider H and there are some
- 1:23:17Speaker 3: corners on the. Market but you, know, look corners on the,
- 1:23:19Speaker 3: market they don't if they're on the, market they're on
- 1:23:22Speaker 3: the market for a.
- 1:23:23Speaker 2: Reason he who what would you give up for some
- 1:23:25Speaker 2: of the, stuff because it's not like they got a
- 1:23:26Speaker 2: ton of picks to work with.
- 1:23:28Speaker 3: Necessarily, well they've actually loaded up on, picks, remember so
- 1:23:32Speaker 3: they could they give up some of. Them there's only
- 1:23:35Speaker 3: a certain couple, guys defensive.
- 1:23:37Speaker 4: Linemen they if you can Get Vac seeler for a
- 1:23:39Speaker 4: late round, Pick i'm making that deal BECAUSE i think
- 1:23:42Speaker 4: he could solidify their defensive. Line, now there was some
- 1:23:45Speaker 4: talk that The titans were going to Move Jeffrey.
- 1:23:47Speaker 2: Simmons what that would, take also That god himself could
- 1:23:54Speaker 2: pull that one. Off all, right this one's for both
- 1:23:58Speaker 2: of you. Guys So Jags fan fifty eight fifty. Eight
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: what's your biggest concern right now at the bye week
- 1:24:03Speaker 2: and how would you fix?
- 1:24:04Speaker 3: It?
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: Austin you go first with your Big there are, many
- 1:24:07Speaker 2: there's a.
- 1:24:07Speaker 5: Couple what is your? BIGGEST i, Mean i'm on the
- 1:24:11Speaker 5: fence with the, penalties But i'm gonna go that's kind
- 1:24:14Speaker 5: of low hanging, fruit Right So i'm gonna go ahead and,
- 1:24:16Speaker 5: SAY i just think my biggest concern Is Trevor lawrence right,
- 1:24:18Speaker 5: now BECAUSE i think that's the biggest. Priority it's Why
- 1:24:21Speaker 5: Liam cohen was brought, Here it's why you Drafted Travis
- 1:24:24Speaker 5: hunter where you, did why you sacrifice so much to get,
- 1:24:27Speaker 5: Him it's the it's the emergen Of Trevor. Lawrence AND
- 1:24:30Speaker 5: i think with this seven game sample, SIZE i think
- 1:24:33Speaker 5: the most important thing of this season was to find
- 1:24:35Speaker 5: out If Trevor lawrence is truly the guy or. Not
- 1:24:37Speaker 5: And i'm sitting here seven games in the season And
- 1:24:40Speaker 5: i'm telling, YOU i really don't. Know so that's my
- 1:24:42Speaker 5: biggest concern right. Now i'm with.
- 1:24:44Speaker 3: YOU i think that's number one. Priority and you pay
- 1:24:48Speaker 3: that guy that. Money forget about the money you draft
- 1:24:50Speaker 3: them number one.
- 1:24:51Speaker 4: Overall he's supposed to be the savior for the, franchise
- 1:24:53Speaker 4: and right now he's not playing like. It and the
- 1:24:55Speaker 4: amazing thing is you go look at his numbers On
- 1:24:57Speaker 4: sunday and you, go really that.
- 1:25:00Speaker 3: Bad he didn't turn it over no.
- 1:25:02Speaker 4: Interceptions, see BUT i have a theory on, interceptions And
- 1:25:06Speaker 4: i'm in the minority on this.
- 1:25:07Speaker 3: One you're gonna throw interceptions if you're taking chance in.
- 1:25:10Speaker 3: Quarterbacks if you're not taking, chances you're not gonna throw.
- 1:25:13Speaker 4: Interceptions AND i think this team has gotten to the
- 1:25:15Speaker 4: point where he's playing far too safe on. Offense and you,
- 1:25:19Speaker 4: know LIKE i told, you the shots in the in
- 1:25:21Speaker 4: the hole in this.
- 1:25:22Speaker 3: On the second level against cover, Two, yeah those are,
- 1:25:24Speaker 3: there but you got to put.
- 1:25:26Speaker 4: Them on, time and you got to make the throw
- 1:25:27Speaker 4: on time and put it in the right. Spot if you,
- 1:25:29Speaker 4: don't they're gonna pick that. Off AND i don't think
- 1:25:32Speaker 4: he's taking the. Chances So i'm with you one hundred.
- 1:25:34Speaker 4: Percent Is Trevor lawrence the rest of the.
- 1:25:35Speaker 2: WAY i don't know what the, priority how we're gonna fix,
- 1:25:38Speaker 2: it BUT i know it's gotta get.
- 1:25:40Speaker 3: Fit it's right. Here he's got to fix it right.
- 1:25:42Speaker 5: Here, Yeah, Yeah AND i think that's that's really the frustrating,
- 1:25:46Speaker 5: thing this whole. Process, right it'd be one thing where
- 1:25:49Speaker 5: if you saw the mechanics aren't where they're supposed to,
- 1:25:51Speaker 5: be if you saw the decision, makings like we've seen
- 1:25:55Speaker 5: the good Of Trevor, lawrence, right we've seen the great
- 1:25:58Speaker 5: Of Trevor. Lawrence like we've seen small samples of, it
- 1:26:00Speaker 5: but it's been. There it's just now unlocking it and
- 1:26:03Speaker 5: having at a consistent basis BECAUSE i think it tells
- 1:26:06Speaker 5: a lot OF i think the Signature Trevor lawrence played
- 1:26:08Speaker 5: this year is The Stumble, rooskie, which which is. Great
- 1:26:13Speaker 5: at the time was all, right it was, fine we
- 1:26:15Speaker 5: beat the, chiefs but now looking back on it's like
- 1:26:17Speaker 5: that's what we have to hang a hand right, Now
- 1:26:19Speaker 5: like not so, good, right you.
- 1:26:21Speaker 3: See BUT i think the Signature Trevor lawrence play is
- 1:26:24Speaker 3: the sideline shot To Brian thomas to set up The stumble.
- 1:26:28Speaker 3: Route there are only a few humans on the planet
- 1:26:31Speaker 3: that make that. Throw he just doesn't. Make and SOMETIMES
- 1:26:35Speaker 3: i think when he's.
- 1:26:36Speaker 4: Forced to make, throws it's either you, know if he's
- 1:26:40Speaker 4: picked off, there oh, well you know WHAT i, mean
- 1:26:42Speaker 4: he's trying to come from behind to win the.
- 1:26:44Speaker 3: Game he plays. Better he saw it against The chargers
- 1:26:48Speaker 3: back in the day in the.
- 1:26:48Speaker 4: Playoffs i'm, done, Mum kim, chum AND i think he
- 1:26:53Speaker 4: starts pressing when it's an even even.
- 1:26:56Speaker 2: FIELD i started putting more pressure on him.
- 1:26:58Speaker 4: Beforehand we'll just tell them you're down, fifteen go make place.
- 1:27:02Speaker 2: Test we'll start down. Fifteen just start.
- 1:27:04Speaker 5: Stop taking the ball at you and the coin. Toss
- 1:27:07Speaker 5: go on defense. First let them do their. Thing if
- 1:27:09Speaker 5: they get three points to seven, points then Put trevor out.
- 1:27:11Speaker 5: There let's go, here you.
- 1:27:12Speaker 3: Go reverse.
- 1:27:13Speaker 2: Psychology maybe that'll work for. Us all. Right coming up
- 1:27:16Speaker 2: after the, break we'll talk a little bit about what's
- 1:27:17Speaker 2: going on around THE nfl and a little preview Of
- 1:27:19Speaker 2: Monday Night Football Jaguars Happy, hour presented to you by
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- 1:27:22Speaker 6: Wings dropping Is trevor fires it deep.
- 1:27:31Speaker 5: Downfield that balls caught.
- 1:27:32Speaker 3: By Travis hunters in the ends one.
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- 1:27:40Speaker 2: block and fenced it. Too not a lot of options For.
- 1:27:42Speaker 2: Frank nothing against, him but that was a tough game
- 1:27:44Speaker 2: for him to call. Him Sure Kinanie steven's in FOR
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- 1:27:53Speaker 2: and let's talk a little bit about what's going around
- 1:27:56Speaker 2: the going on around THE nfl as we keep up
- 1:27:58Speaker 2: with some of these other. Teams Obviously Thursday Night, Football
- 1:28:01Speaker 2: steelers And. Bengals bengals got to win over The steelers,
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: there Which Jayalen ramsey had a tough night of. It
- 1:28:08Speaker 2: our old friend, here but it was.
- 1:28:10Speaker 3: Awful he was all he looked in that.
- 1:28:14Speaker 2: One they definitely. Did Mike tomlin cooks up some stuff most,
- 1:28:17Speaker 2: weeks but that was a little tough for. Him bears
- 1:28:20Speaker 2: beating The, Saints browns beat The. Dolphins who The dolphins
- 1:28:23Speaker 2: just look that one's rough down. There The raiders getting
- 1:28:27Speaker 2: shut up by The chiefs thirty one, nothing and then
- 1:28:31Speaker 2: The panthers look out thirteen and thirteen to six win
- 1:28:34Speaker 2: over The. Jets they have the same record as The
- 1:28:35Speaker 2: jags right. Now The panthers do.
- 1:28:38Speaker 5: Thought you know what they.
- 1:28:39Speaker 3: Do they run the ball and they take advantage of bad.
- 1:28:42Speaker 3: TEAMS i mean they think about. Them we beat the
- 1:28:43Speaker 3: last couple of, weeks they beat The, dolphins who.
- 1:28:46Speaker 4: Stink they beat The cowboys run defense by running for
- 1:28:48Speaker 4: two hundred yards against, them and then they beat The,
- 1:28:51Speaker 4: jets and that's what they're.
- 1:28:53Speaker 3: Doing.
- 1:28:53Speaker 2: Absolutely Patriots buffalo this, week by the, way so we'll
- 1:28:56Speaker 2: we'll see how it. Goes, Yes, Patriots Mike rabel getting
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: a little revenge going Into tennessee and thirty one thirteen.
- 1:29:03Speaker 2: There don't look now At patriots looking pretty good as.
- 1:29:05Speaker 5: Well, yeah, WELL i love to all of The titans
- 1:29:07Speaker 5: to let go of their coach already because they didn't
- 1:29:09Speaker 5: want able to breathe the reason why you, know he
- 1:29:12Speaker 5: got fired or. Whatever so, Yeah, BRABEL i, Mean drake
- 1:29:15Speaker 5: may looks look like the real deal.
- 1:29:17Speaker 2: Here one of the best things that.
- 1:29:18Speaker 3: Happened, quarterback, coach. Quarterback and by the, way we talk about.
- 1:29:21Speaker 3: Travel The patriots played three straight road games and won
- 1:29:25Speaker 3: all of.
- 1:29:25Speaker 2: Them, yeah, yes they. Did good to See broncos with
- 1:29:29Speaker 2: the comeback of the century there the other night against The.
- 1:29:32Speaker 3: Giants that's A giants choke thirty three points in the fourth.
- 1:29:39Speaker 3: Quarter thirty three they. Scored that should never.
- 1:29:44Speaker 5: Happen do you Think Brian daviles on the hot seat their.
- 1:29:48Speaker 2: PETE i think he got a little calm after He
- 1:29:52Speaker 2: Jackson dark and he was, like, Oh i'm.
- 1:29:54Speaker 3: Good oh.
- 1:29:55Speaker 5: Yeah you know why.
- 1:29:57Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think they got life With jack And. Dart.
- 1:30:00Speaker 4: Yeah AND i think you don't want to make that
- 1:30:03Speaker 4: change because you can see that he understands and likes the,
- 1:30:05Speaker 4: offense and you got to start them all over.
- 1:30:06Speaker 3: Again SO i think he.
- 1:30:08Speaker 2: Stays packers beat The cardinals yesterday and then my biggest
- 1:30:12Speaker 2: concern thus, far The colts are just reeling them off
- 1:30:15Speaker 2: another win over The chargers. YESTERDAY i thought it was
- 1:30:18Speaker 2: going to Be. Jaguars texans are the biggest. Problem now
- 1:30:21Speaker 2: it's shifted and The colts. Are they're looking for real for.
- 1:30:23Speaker 3: Sure i'll tell you.
- 1:30:25Speaker 4: WHAT i actually didn't believe in The colts because of
- 1:30:29Speaker 4: their teams they. Beat BUT i said if they went
- 1:30:31Speaker 4: to The chargers and handled, business AND i believe.
- 1:30:34Speaker 3: Now and you, know we talk about offensive line. Play
- 1:30:38Speaker 3: that's the reason they're good on. Offense they're averaging thirty
- 1:30:42Speaker 3: three points a. Game the offensive. Line they got rid
- 1:30:45Speaker 3: of their center and their right guard last.
- 1:30:46Speaker 4: Year kelly And freezer now went over and starting In,
- 1:30:49Speaker 4: minnesota and they brought In bordalini to play, center In
- 1:30:52Speaker 4: conclaves to play right. Guard their line is as good
- 1:30:55Speaker 4: as any in the league right. Now and that's Why
- 1:30:56Speaker 4: Jonathan taylor's in THE mvp. Conversation it's Why Daniel jones
- 1:31:00Speaker 4: putting up big.
- 1:31:00Speaker 5: Numbers Tyler warren is also going to be a. PROBLEM
- 1:31:02Speaker 5: i think for years and years of Cold, man that
- 1:31:04Speaker 5: guy was the real.
- 1:31:05Speaker 3: Deal yeah, There no matter what you, know they're not
- 1:31:07Speaker 3: winning In jacksonville BECAUSE.
- 1:31:08Speaker 2: I never Do, pete knock on wood right now.
- 1:31:12Speaker 5: And just stopp.
- 1:31:14Speaker 3: Now, no BUT i did, lock dave you and. FORGOT
- 1:31:16Speaker 3: i locked The chiefs. Game remember.
- 1:31:18Speaker 2: Did we'll give you credit for.
- 1:31:19Speaker 3: THAT i haven't been. Back you did lock.
- 1:31:20Speaker 2: It cowboys getting the double digit win over forty, four
- 1:31:25Speaker 2: twenty two over The, commanders and then the forty nine
- 1:31:27Speaker 2: ers back on. TRACK i think they got. Kittlebacks they
- 1:31:29Speaker 2: get the twenty to ten win over The. Falcons also
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- 1:31:43Speaker 2: Jags and let's talk About Monday night. FOOTBALL a pair
- 1:31:48Speaker 2: of games tonight starting at Seven, Detroit Baker mayfield and
- 1:31:51Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay buccaneers taking on The. Lions bucks are banged,
- 1:31:54Speaker 2: up but they're playing great. Football The lions want to
- 1:31:56Speaker 2: get a bounce back win after that loss to The.
- 1:31:58Speaker 2: Chiefs who you got in The? MotorCity going to.
- 1:32:02Speaker 3: Take The, BUCK i mean The bucks. WILL i think
- 1:32:04Speaker 3: The lions will win a close, one BUT i think
- 1:32:06Speaker 3: The bucks are gonna score a lot of points That
- 1:32:08Speaker 3: they're so banged up on defense In, detroit but they're
- 1:32:11Speaker 3: banged up on offense In.
- 1:32:12Speaker 4: Tampa But baker's playing so, Well i'll Take i'll take
- 1:32:15Speaker 4: The lions to win a close.
- 1:32:17Speaker 5: One, YEAH i think The lions as. Well this feels
- 1:32:19Speaker 5: like That Jared goff five hundred yard by The Night
- 1:32:21Speaker 5: football night. Right He's he's literally due for one of
- 1:32:23Speaker 5: those every single. Year this seems like the night that's gonna.
- 1:32:26Speaker 3: Happen i'm Taking.
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: BAKER i love. It it's got so much. Attitude he'll
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: find a. Way he'll find a. Way and then a
- 1:32:33Speaker 2: late one out last The Houston texans coming off the bye,
- 1:32:35Speaker 2: week they have to travel out To Seattle, luminfield facing
- 1:32:38Speaker 2: off against The seahawks who are hitting their. Stride who
- 1:32:42Speaker 2: you got in the? Nightcap this game might be over in.
- 1:32:45Speaker 4: Two hours and ten minutes because neither team can do anything.
- 1:32:48Speaker 4: Offensively these defenses are really.
- 1:32:50Speaker 2: Which is gonna starts at?
- 1:32:51Speaker 4: Ten you Saw seattle's defense and they can attack the
- 1:32:54Speaker 4: quarterback and the other.
- 1:32:56Speaker 3: Side The texans can't. WALK i, mean it gave up
- 1:32:59Speaker 3: a lot of pressures ON.
- 1:33:00Speaker 5: Cj.
- 1:33:00Speaker 4: Stroud So i'm going With. Seattle even Though seattle hasn't
- 1:33:03Speaker 4: been as good at. Home they've been great on the
- 1:33:05Speaker 4: road and haven't been just good at.
- 1:33:06Speaker 3: Home But i'll Take.
- 1:33:07Speaker 5: SEATTLE i Think houston's got a new found. CONFIDENCE i
- 1:33:11Speaker 5: don't like them going on the road To, seattle a
- 1:33:13Speaker 5: tough place to, play BUT i just think for whatever,
- 1:33:15Speaker 5: Reason houston will find a. WAY i don't like admitting
- 1:33:17Speaker 5: it because now you're a neck and neck with The
- 1:33:18Speaker 5: Jacksonville jaggars in THE Afc, South BUT i Think houston's
- 1:33:21Speaker 5: got this one.
- 1:33:22Speaker 2: TONIGHT i Think i'm With pete in the sense that
- 1:33:26Speaker 2: seeing That seahawks team get After Trevor, lawrence The texans
- 1:33:29Speaker 2: have still not figured out a way to protect. C. J,
- 1:33:31Speaker 2: Stroud so seven sacks against the. DRAGS i think it's
- 1:33:34Speaker 2: gonna look something similar in this. One So i'm gonna
- 1:33:37Speaker 2: go With seattle as. Well all, right let's quickly wrap
- 1:33:39Speaker 2: things up with we're going into the bye. Week we
- 1:33:41Speaker 2: talked a ton about the issues we've seen in the
- 1:33:44Speaker 2: last couple of. Weeks if You're Liam Cohen, austin what's
- 1:33:47Speaker 2: your main. FOCUS i Know Trevor, lawrence we got to
- 1:33:49Speaker 2: get him on, track but, yeah as a, coach what
- 1:33:51Speaker 2: you can, control what are you focusing?
- 1:33:53Speaker 5: On, yeah you know, WHAT i have to go back
- 1:33:55Speaker 5: to the basics because it all starts with the, penalties
- 1:33:58Speaker 5: and it starts with playing you, know catchup footballs and
- 1:34:00Speaker 5: things like, that very basic. Things and we heard this
- 1:34:02Speaker 5: in the. PRESEASON i forgot what week WE i think
- 1:34:04Speaker 5: it was week one through The pittsburgh, game where it's,
- 1:34:06Speaker 5: like we have to go back to the. Basics you
- 1:34:08Speaker 5: have to do the same thing here as. Well now
- 1:34:11Speaker 5: doesn't be a really physical week of, practice but it's
- 1:34:14Speaker 5: got to be more of sharpening the, mind being mental
- 1:34:17Speaker 5: and just you, know going back to what you. Know
- 1:34:19Speaker 5: SO i think that's the main. Focus is just the.
- 1:34:21Speaker 4: Basics Get Trevor lawrence going and Get Brian thomas to
- 1:34:27Speaker 4: realize what a special talent he can be if he
- 1:34:31Speaker 4: just decides to go do.
- 1:34:32Speaker 2: It, Pete we've got a schedule that is favored for
- 1:34:38Speaker 2: the back half when you go into a bye. WEEK
- 1:34:40Speaker 2: i felt like this was kind of the gauntlet right
- 1:34:42Speaker 2: out of the, gate right you got The, chiefs The.
- 1:34:43Speaker 2: Seahawks you're going To london to deal With La. Houston
- 1:34:46Speaker 2: at the, time we didn't know what they were going to.
- 1:34:47Speaker 2: Be this was the tough part of the schedule for.
- 1:34:49Speaker 2: Me this part coming up, though because they played so
- 1:34:52Speaker 2: much at. Home they've got three out of four are
- 1:34:54Speaker 2: going to be, away so they're coming. Back they're going
- 1:34:56Speaker 2: To Las, vegas who.
- 1:34:57Speaker 3: To, me that team.
- 1:34:58Speaker 2: Stinks they Do and if you come out you don't
- 1:35:01Speaker 2: play well against a team that is not, good that
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: is a giant concern for. Me so coming out and
- 1:35:07Speaker 2: playing well in that game is going to be. Huge
- 1:35:10Speaker 2: then you go on the road To, houston come back
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: against The, chargers and then you're on the road again
- 1:35:14Speaker 2: against The. Cardinals so how important is that? Stretch?
- 1:35:17Speaker 4: Pete three out of, four they got to get three
- 1:35:19Speaker 4: out of, four whatever way you, get and you have
- 1:35:20Speaker 4: to get three out of.
- 1:35:21Speaker 3: Four that's the WAY i see.
- 1:35:22Speaker 4: It and and you know, what four out of four
- 1:35:25Speaker 4: is possible if you play good, football because that's Not
- 1:35:28Speaker 4: cardinals are a, tough physical, team but they're not a great.
- 1:35:31Speaker 4: Team and you, Know houston's tough physical and, defense but
- 1:35:34Speaker 4: they're not great on the offensive.
- 1:35:36Speaker 3: Line you got to get three of. Those if You're,
- 1:35:38Speaker 3: jacksonville three of.
- 1:35:38Speaker 5: THEM i THINK i have to get three as. Well
- 1:35:40Speaker 5: BUT i want to go back to What pete said
- 1:35:41Speaker 5: earlier in the. SHOW i think this bye week and
- 1:35:44Speaker 5: then That raiders week is going to be an extremely
- 1:35:46Speaker 5: important showing for The Jacksonville jaguars because that's a team
- 1:35:49Speaker 5: you're supposed to. Beat and if you go out there
- 1:35:51Speaker 5: and it's competitive and haven't forbid that you lose that, game,
- 1:35:55Speaker 5: well then then you are going to have a laundry
- 1:35:57Speaker 5: list of problems to sort. Through because that team right,
- 1:35:59Speaker 5: now if you watch That Kansas city, game that they
- 1:36:01Speaker 5: are not good by any. Capacity Max crosby's banged, up
- 1:36:04Speaker 5: their defensive tackle got banged up as. Well there they
- 1:36:07Speaker 5: have the. Injuries Jacobe myers doesn't want to be, there
- 1:36:10Speaker 5: it's a team right for getting a win.
- 1:36:11Speaker 4: Again Rock bowers has them played, much you know They,
- 1:36:14Speaker 4: yeah it's if you don't win that, game you got
- 1:36:18Speaker 4: major problems the rest of the.
- 1:36:19Speaker 2: Way pe is The texans still in terms of the.
- 1:36:23Speaker 2: Division obviously The colts have a great record right. Now
- 1:36:26Speaker 2: is it down to just The colts now or do
- 1:36:27Speaker 2: you think The texans still might be in the mix
- 1:36:29Speaker 2: in the second half of the season for the.
- 1:36:30Speaker 4: Division if you look at That texans, schedule it's so,
- 1:36:34Speaker 4: BRUTAL i don't know how they can get out from underneath.
- 1:36:37Speaker 3: It you, know everybody's, saying, well they beat The ravens
- 1:36:39Speaker 3: when they went. Before The ravens stink the way they're
- 1:36:42Speaker 3: constructed are right. Now, yeah so so you gotta kind
- 1:36:46Speaker 3: of dismiss that a little. Bit where they, win they
- 1:36:48Speaker 3: beat The titans in.
- 1:36:49Speaker 4: The ravens on back to back weeks and that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:36:53Speaker 4: Yeah so they're not we don't know what they.
- 1:36:56Speaker 3: Are we'll know more about them.
- 1:36:57Speaker 4: Tonight if they go To seattle and win a physical
- 1:36:59Speaker 4: game against a good physical team Like, seattle then we'll
- 1:37:03Speaker 4: sit there and we'll, Say, okay they're back and they're
- 1:37:05Speaker 4: going to be in the.
- 1:37:06Speaker 3: Mix if they lose, TONIGHT i think they're out of the.
- 1:37:08Speaker 3: Equation look at the rest of their. Schedule it is.
- 1:37:10Speaker 2: Brutal all, right, everybody enjoy your bye. Week as much
- 1:37:14Speaker 2: as we've talked about this, team they are four and
- 1:37:16Speaker 2: three heading, in AND i think we would all take that.
- 1:37:18Speaker 3: Week you're going to have the weekend. Off we're gonna be.
- 1:37:20Speaker 2: Working Oh, pete we know you're working all the. Time
- 1:37:23Speaker 2: i'll take my four. Days i'll take my four days.
- 1:37:25Speaker 2: Off thank you for letting me sit in and FOR Jp, Austin.
- 1:37:28Speaker 2: PETE i appreciate you guys so. Much AND jp will
- 1:37:31Speaker 2: be back with you Next, monday so you guys can
- 1:37:33Speaker 2: all poke fun at him. Then but until, then enjoy
- 1:37:35Speaker 2: your weeks and we'll be back with you next week
- 1:37:37Speaker 2: here On Happy. Hour