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BTS Arirang Extravaganza: Album Review Side B (Originally recorded on 4/11/26) · I Was Thinking…

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  So yes, we're going to go into our title track, which is Swim,
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  which is produced by Tyler Spry and Leekar Lyrics by James
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  Eisen, Sean Foreman, Tyler Spry, Jameson back back in Bacon.
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  OK, sorry. Ryan Tedder, RM Kirsten, Alyssa
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  Spencer, Derek Milano and P Dog. And then the official music
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  video actually features the actress Lily Reinhardt.
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  You've probably seen her in Like the Show.
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  Riverdale. Yes, Riverdale.
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  I only watched the first season on that, and then I lost
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  interest very quickly because they're starting to do some
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  weird things on that show. But sure.
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  And she's been in other stuff. But according to Genius that I
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  got the music video for the song set inside of a sailboat where
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  the members are embarking on an inter Atlantic journey which the
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  female lead are transported transported from the museum
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  through the space and the time. The uneasiness of the temporal
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  shift left her in a short but unforgettable memory of the
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  history of the Korean diaspora in the earlier times.
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  Connected to the title of the album based on a Korean folk
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  song. I'm not going to lie, when I
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  first saw like the teaser for this music video, I was a little
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  worried, especially with all that we went through with
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  Howard. So I was like, please God, don't
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  show them showing up to Howard. And then we just get another
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  like discussion. I don't need it and didn't end
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  up happening, which I'm very happy.
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  But yes, from the studio notes live kind of reiterated that
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  they said in the Dog about being hesitated on making this their
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  comeback, especially with them being known for like their heavy
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  hard hitting choreography, choreographed title tracks.
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  And they mentioned like idle and on they weren't sure how it
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  would be received after being gone for so long.
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  I also love that everyone forgets about Be and Life Goes
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  On because that was another slow tempo song.
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  But I guess because it was during the pandemic that's why
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  I'm not really sure. Namju mentioned how we thought
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  the song would be more relatable to people.
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  He also mentioned that while preparing this album and being
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  in the military, he kept counting down the day to D-Day
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  and how it felt like he, you know, was having to swim to keep
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  moving forward. So it's kind of like taking all
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  the phrase, like, keep swimming when the waves get big.
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  That's how life is. And I also didn't watch his
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  interview, but I kept coming across clips on it online and
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  like, TikTok. On the Elvis Duran show, Nandita
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  actually talked about how this song can be seen as a typical
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  love song, especially with some of the lyrics.
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  Like, I could spend a lifetime watching you.
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  And then he revealed that there was actually a last minute
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  debate between 2 lines for the song.
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  So for the hook, there was a choice of wonder where the waves
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  are taking you instead of I can spend a lifetime watching you.
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  But it seemed like more people like the lifetime line.
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  So that made it into the song. And like, so that's why he
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  understands how it can be interpreted into a love song.
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  But like in the studio notes, he talked about how his inspiration
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  was being in the military. And he said the days, 550 days
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  and counting. Oh boy, he was ready to get the
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  fuck up out of there. I know.
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  That's right. Now, June.
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  Yes and like get discharged when they when the time came so you
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  know keep swimming until the day came to where he got released.
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  Oh, poor June. I know, I'm so happy he's
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  finally out. We're so glad he's home and he
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  is too. So swim.
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  I think the more that OK, so once we started getting other
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  music videos, because in my opinion and this I'm again, I'm
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  not knowledgeable in the sense of like, I know this is how this
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  works. This is just my opinion.
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  Just want to clarify when we get these music videos, I feel like
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  these were the options of what was considered to be a single.
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  When we get music videos, I feel like those are the represent the
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  what we have as far as like these are the tracks that are
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  the I guess maybe unanimously are like, OK, these are like not
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  the best tracks, but like the tracks that we can see having
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  the most market marketability, right.
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  So when we're looking at Swim versus 2 point O versus
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  Hooligan, I see why they went with Swim as a lead single
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  outside of the fact that it's English completely.
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  So you have that, you know marketability there, but it's
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  also I think very commercial. I don't think the other two
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  songs have the same commercial ability as Swim does because and
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  I kind of talked, well, I didn't talk about this.
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  I talked about this in one of the recordings we did that never
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  is going to see the light of day, but that's.
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  Fine to say. It's OK When it comes to pop
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  music, it is a universal genre. It is a genre that is, again,
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  you'll hear it more often times and not in places that are kind
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  of considered like safe spaces or like places that are very
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  family friendly. I'll say that now, of course,
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  not talking about niche places. If you go to like a for
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  instance, like a Mexican restaurant, you're probably
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  going to hear more music that is directly from like a Mexican
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  culture. Same with like, you know, again,
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  any like any Asian diaspora and you know, anything that's
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  specifically in niche, you'll probably hear something that is
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  specific in niche to whatever. But I'm talking about like
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  Walmart, your Kroger, your mall. You'll hear pop music most more
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  times than not because it's safe, because it is a more easy
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  listening than some other genres.
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  Like rock is very mostly political for the most part or
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  very anti government. So we're not listening to that
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  in the local, you know, grocery store.
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  I mean countries also, but I think that's American more than
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  anything else. It it's getting a little more
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  mainstream because like we we've seen like country kind of take
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  more of a pop route. So we have pop country or modern
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  country, but for the most part, country is also like very, it's
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  not fun. It's not fun music.
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  It's not like it doesn't it? Country music doesn't make you
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  want to buy shit. And that's another thing, like a
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  lot of pop music makes you want to buy shit or it's in in places
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  where you typically will buy a lot of shit.
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  And all of this is, I think for a reason.
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  There's reasons behind all that just on like a level or
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  whatever. But I think when it comes to pop
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  music and that easier listening music and what's marketable and
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  what is able to be able to be accessible to a bigger, larger
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  crowd, Swim makes the most sense.
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  It is heavy on kind of that blend between pop and like I
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  would say R&B. But again, it's like it's got
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  more R&B elements, especially with like this new wave of R&B,
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  like a trap R&B. So like, you know, people like
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  the Weekend and like Chase Atlantic is another like
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  influence in there and Bryson Tiller obviously kind of
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  cultivating like trap R&B. We're seeing a whole lot of that
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  too. And I think it had the most,
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  again, marketability when it comes to what would be pushed
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  and what's going to be able to contend at the top of the charts
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  with other songs like it. We're seeing kind of this shift,
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  I think in music right now where people are listening to more
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  like sing songy Ford music. Like we're seeing like the
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  Olivia Deans and the Rays and they're kind of taking over the
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  charts, which shout out to them. And like even with Bruno Mars's
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  new project being very reminiscent of like the Silk
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  Sonic kind of trajectory, very like seventies, 80s influenced
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  or whatever. And so we're we're starting to
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  see kind of like this resurgence of that more easy listening.
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  Not so not to say like things like brat aren't popular because
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  they are clearly, but I mean, I think we're seeing a shift and I
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  think when it comes to trends, you know, the people who are
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  behind BTS, the brand, I believe are on top of it and are
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  watching these things. So it's what makes the most
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  sound. The video bunch of men that are
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  ghost chasing a white woman on a boat.
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  And I just feel like it's kind of that's it.
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  I mean, I'm sure like and again, I hate to make it this sound.
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  It's just out of the free videos, it is it is the most
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  boring. It is like, I don't think
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  anybody would disagree. I haven't watched it since I
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  first watched it when it came out, so I watched.
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  Yeah, I know. I Yeah.
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  The dance videos. More I will watch the dance
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  because I do like watching those, but the music video I'm
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  just like you know you got you a notable actress in there.
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  That on you, you're on a boat. Y'all look good.
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  They do. I mean, I can't think of it.
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  Y'all, y'all look amazing. I mean, it's very aesthetically
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  pleasing to watch, but it is very boring.
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  There's not. And again, going back into the
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  conversation about like them having very choreographed like 4
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  tracks, there's there's a choreography in this, but it's
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  not being showcased in the music video.
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  So that's why a lot of people are going to the dance or the
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  performance of a video, because we're seeing them move around
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  and, you know, dancing to the music.
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  But I mean, yeah, it's, it's definitely, I think it, it makes
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  sense why after all it was all said and done, Swim was the
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  title track. And I like it.
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  I generally think that Swim is a good a good song.
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  It's grown on me. Yeah, I think hearing our rap
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  line take a backseat from the rap heavy stuff and be more sing
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  songy love when Yungi does that sing song you should love when
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  R.E.M. does. I mean, again, that's part of
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  the reason why I loved RE miss projects like indigo so much.
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  He was very much in his sing songy bag and Indigo and same
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  with Yungi through D-Day. D-Day.
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  It was very they had a lot of influence with the sing songy
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  stuff. J Hope as well, like I I love J
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  Hope's they they all three of them have very nice vocals.
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  Are they like the best singers? Like no, they're but they're not
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  supposed to be. They're not, they're not
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  singers, but they have very nice vocals.
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  Like I think they have very solid vocals, very distinct
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  vocals that you recognize them. If if I if you brought me a
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  track and didn't tell me who was on and I would recognize their
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  vocals. The only one I'm going to see
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  doing like a more vocal thing if he really trained for it would
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  be Hobie in my opinion. I really like his tone when he's
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  singing, so I could see him if he really wanted to like, you
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  know, train that up more to be like an actual singer.
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  Yeah, we got the kind of snippet of that I think with his solo
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  releases through the tour with like Mona Lisa and Sweet Dreams.
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  Both of them were very sing songy as like like melodic rappy
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  kind of melodic rap and I like those.
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  I think Mona Lisa's, at least it was my favorite of the of the of
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  the trio of that. Oh, I mean, I was going all the
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  way back to even projects on Hope World, like Daydream,
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  because that's pretty singing to me.
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  Yeah. And like others, I'm sure like
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  there was some on Hope on the Street as well, but that I can't
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  think of at the top of my head. Neuron, I think it was very, it
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  had more of a melodic, melodic. It's melodic more than it is
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  like it's not. It doesn't give like arson,
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  which is very like rocker rap heavy or very like grunge heavy.
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  It's so, yeah, it has that. It's more melodic than it is,
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  like super rap or whatever, you know?
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  Yeah, like the song he did with JK on his Hope on the Street and
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  the one he did with Eugen from Laserafim.
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  I would consider those two. They're very more singing.
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  Yeah, a lot more melodic for sure.
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  So we're we're on some. So yeah, I think Swim was, I do
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  think now that we've had the whole album, I think in the
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  beginning I was like, man, body to body should have been the
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  should have been the choice. But knowing what the what the
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  intention was with this album, now I'm like, you know what Swim
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  was? Probably the right choice.
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  Yeah, I completely agree with. That at it from the perspective,
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  yeah, if we're looking at perspective of the three music
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  videos we got or what those were the of those were the choices of
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  the title tracks. Swim was the right answer.
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  Good song, though. Oh, Tyler Spry.
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  He's the one that worked on Bad Bunny's album this last album.
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  Oh, OK. I was wondering where the
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  producer you were talking about for Bad Bunny was going to come
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  in. Yeah, he was part of I'm, I'm
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  terrible with names, but the one that he just won the whole
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  Grammy and did Super Bowl on, and I think when we saw that
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  name, we saw his name. I think a lot of people who know
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  that he worked on Bad Bunny's album, that's was also part of
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  the expectation of them, quote UN quote, like, you know what
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  I'm saying like so I can see that and of course it I don't
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  think that it had to be, but I think there was like this
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  expectation that was set because of the fact that he worked on
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  such a cultural significant album to that Bunny.
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  And I think that we thought I think it rightfully so.
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  I don't have I don't have a problem with speculating being
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  wrong, You know what I mean? Like, so even I was like, we'll
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  probably get something that's more, you know, significant to
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  them, But you know, swim is it is significant to them, but not
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  in the way that I think people thought it was going to be.
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  Yeah, OK, so let's go on to the next song, which actually is a
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  girl for me as well, Merry Go Brown.
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  So the producers on that is Sam Holmay, Sarah Aaron's Kevin
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  Parker. And for the lyrics, it is Sam
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  Holmay, Sarah Aaron's Gregory All Day, Hyne, Kevin Parker, RM
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  Sugar, J Hope, Derek Milano and P Dog.
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  And I know in the studio notes, Namjin Meili talked about how it
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  looks like all day. And Sam, you know, really helped
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  shaped his vision for this that he had.
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  I'm sure it came like, once again from the military.
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  He also mentioned, I think and the Zane Lowe, if I remember
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  correctly, again, I'm taking, you know, I was trying to go off
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  the top of my head how he was a big fan.
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  I remember he mentioned the name Kevin Parker and someone that
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  was working for them. I don't know if it was Sam or
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  someone else was the reason that they got connected because he
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  was talking about how he's a big fan of him and he's like, oh,
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  like I'm friends with him. And so he brought him on board
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  to, like, share a couple songs to help them with.
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  Yeah, it's Tame and Paula this is and I love, I love Paula.
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  So I was super stoked when we knew Kevin was on the credits
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  and it definitely gives. It has a very Tame and Paula
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  esque like vibes too. If you if you listen to that
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  music, it is very psychedelic kind of in a way gives very much
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  like a what's the word I'm looking for?
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  Kind of like a yeah, like a trippy, slowed down vibe.
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  I really like Merry Go Round. It's it's up there for me.
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  I think this song is deeper than normal because people always
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  talk about normal. I'm like, I think that's Merry
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  Go round. You think it's deeper than
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  normal? I, I do.
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  I think in the lyrics it's more like, I don't want to say sad.
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  What am I trying to think of? What is that word that Nafisse
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  always used to tell me? Is it melancholic?
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  Is that the word I'm thinking of?
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  Melancholy? I think so.
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  I mean, just talking about like, you know, because you know, we
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  kind of envision Merry Go rounds as being like a fun thing that
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  we do as children and like carnivals.
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  One this part where it's kind of like being stuck in like a loop
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  of like, you know, trying your best, but like not feeling like
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  you're going anywhere. So you're stuck in that loop of
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  continuing doing things. I'm reading this one lyric.
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  Like, though I feel like I've become an adult, the worries and
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  me are the same, which very, you know, can relate to that.
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  And then we also have, like, parts for Nam June, if you're a
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  fan. He's talked about, like, having
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  insomnia since he was in the military.
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  And he brings it up in this is talking about, like, how as bad
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  as his coffin. So it's just like, you know, one
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  of those things. It's just very.
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  Yeah. I don't know how to explain it.
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  I think there's a lot of some symbolism to it.
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  You know, if you think about, I think there's a lot of just like
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  like like innuendos as well when it comes to, like you said, just
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  the references to kind of mean stuck in a cycle.
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  And, you know, I think they've, they've always been pretty,
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  pretty open. I think with certain things in
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  their life, we see it reflected a lot through their music and
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  the choices that they make when it comes to what they talk about
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  in their music. And I don't think this is the
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  first time we've seen any of them kind of talk about feeling
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  kind of stagnant, I guess. Yeah, I like Merry Go Round.
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  I think it's a really good another one of those like pallet
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  cleansers. It doesn't feel as heavy.
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  It feels, again, with just with the sound itself, the production
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  side of it, it feels very airy. It feels kind of almost like
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  you're floating in water in a way, like floating on top of
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  some water. And again, with the addition of
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  Kevin Parker adding that layer that Tim Paul is known for his
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  influence and that is, you know, you can you can definitely hear.
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  Even if I didn't know that he was involved, I would think that
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  this was very inspired by like a Tayman Paula.
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  Yeah. And when I first heard it, I was
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  like, I knew I was going to love it.
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  I love that, like you said, melodic low to it.
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  And when it comes to the. I feel like this was one of the
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  ones that we saw them working on a documentary when he was
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  sitting with Kristen. She went in the documentary.
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  That's normal. That was normal.
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  That was. Normal they're working on, yeah.
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  OK, we're getting to that then. I swear it was this one.
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  Maybe it was just. I don't.
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  Think they really talked about working on this one in the doc.
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  There was a few they didn't and I know this one wasn't like this
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  one wasn't really talked like animals wasn't talked.
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  I don't think they don't know about us was talked or one more
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  night, please or into the sun. You know, they really only
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  focused on normal swim. The first half.
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  Yeah, and the the first half, except for fire, talk about body
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  to body a lot. Yeah, It was kind of like one
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  that, yeah, center focuses. You know, I think as we move
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  down through like more melodic parts of this album, I think we
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  start to obviously these are where we see a lot more
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  attention to detail when it comes to lyrics.
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  And again, like the symbolisms and the hidden meanings are just
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  like alternative meanings. Yeah.
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  It is a translate getting to that point.
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  Yeah. Overall, I think it fits very
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  well on the album. Glad they didn't cut it.
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  I mean, I'm all I'm always curious about like, what gets
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  cut and what stays. And this one, I feel like it
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  fits their vibe. It's also the other one that's
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  fully in English if I'm not mistaken.
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  No, this one has Korean. Korean.
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  What are the three? The one that's.
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  Fully in English is again normal that you're thinking.
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  Of normal, but there's another one that's fully in English too.
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  Is it one more night? Hang on.
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  Might be. Oh, like animals?
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  Like animals. I knew it was like another one
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  in the second-half. That's.
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  All I got from Mary go round. Yeah, I mean, there's not much I
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  can really break down into this as well.
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  But just some of the lyrics, again, we're just relatable,
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  especially to, you know, I guess I can relate it to is like a
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  working adult of this feeling. Like especially if you're in a
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  data job that you feel like it's going nowhere.
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  How that can feel like being on an endless merry go round,
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  especially like when the part they have here in the same daily
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  life, like a carousel, like a hamster wheel, it's all the
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  same. So yeah, kind.
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  Of sad. That's what I'm saying.
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  It's very sad. And then even towards the very
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  end, Renamjan acts. I think this is part where he's
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  like round and round, are you happy?
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  Please smile until the end. Like just trying to make it
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  through. It's feeling, it feels very
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  nihilist, like very, yeah, like it.
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  And it also kind of kind of reminds me a little of Jimin's
• 20:13
  the first song on Face. Is it alone?
• 20:17
  Because I like that song a lot. Not that one.
• 20:20
  The Not Alone starts off sounding kind of like a circus a
• 20:24
  little bit. That's off of Muse.
• 20:27
  No, it's. Not off of face.
• 20:29
  That's no, no, it's here. It's.
• 20:32
  'Cause I was like, Muse has another one that sounds circusy.
• 20:35
  'Cause I remember him being in the studio and and he was like,
• 20:39
  fuck you that one. Are you sure that's it?
• 20:43
  Alone. No, it's not alone.
• 20:45
  Hold on, I'm about to go look at right now.
• 20:47
  Clearly I need to. Face off.
• 20:49
  Yeah. Oh, reminds me of Face Off a
• 20:51
  little. Bit I would think another one
• 20:52
  we're about to talk about. Reminds me more of Face off and
• 20:55
  a mix, a mix of face off and some music elements from Muse,
• 21:00
  which would be yeah, I was going to say they don't know about us.
• 21:04
  Reminds me more of like Jim and solo work.
• 21:06
  That makes sense because he's the one that I think was more
• 21:09
  involved with that one. Yes.
• 21:12
  So let's go on because I know we both, we're both, I can feel it.
• 21:17
  We're almost there. We're almost that we go home,
• 21:19
  stretch or we got it. OK, so our next one is Normal,
• 21:24
  which I also think is another one a lot of people were
• 21:27
  fighting like maybe this should have been the title track but
• 21:30
  produced by Ryan Tedder and Sean Cook and then writing credits is
• 21:36
  Sean Foreman can't. These names.
• 21:40
  Is it Lee Frank? He's living OK or Livy Frong,
• 21:43
  Ryan Tedder, Sean Cook, RMJ, Hope Sugar, Kirsten Al, Alyssa
• 21:49
  Spencer, Derek Milano and P Dog. In the studio notes live, they
• 21:53
  mentioned how, like, the original storyline for the
• 21:55
  lyrics talked about the lover and having an abnormal obsession
• 21:59
  with their partner, but they had to find a way to, like, change
• 22:02
  the lyrics to kind of relate to them as a group.
• 22:05
  And then Nam June kind of had to ask them, like, their definition
• 22:09
  of normal or like, what do people find normal compared what
• 22:12
  BTS themselves find normal, which I think you can clearly
• 22:16
  say when you read the lyrics. And then I know, like, the
• 22:20
  kerosene dopamine part they talked about or they brought it
• 22:24
  up when they were talking about, like, trying to make sure they
• 22:27
  got the English pronunciation correct on certain songs.
• 22:31
  So that was also this song. But yeah.
• 22:35
  Just. Basically questioning things
• 22:37
  that they call normal or things that people might perceive
• 22:41
  normal for them, which isn't really normal.
• 22:43
  I think for this one, it has definitely solidified itself as
• 22:47
  like my favorite on the second-half.
• 22:49
  It's a lot of people's favorites.
• 22:50
  It is. I think it's just a very solid
• 22:54
  and well written song. This is probably one of my
• 22:57
  favorite, my favorite song. As far as the song writing part
• 23:00
  of it, like again, we see especially with like the rap
• 23:04
  lines part, they hope talking essentially about like being
• 23:08
  happy all the time and how that's not like a sustainable
• 23:12
  way to be right, Which to like, I mean, I don't have this like
• 23:16
  again, these these these unhealthy relationships or
• 23:18
  whatever with these guys. But it just obviously, obviously
• 23:22
  you can't be happy all the time. Like even if you are someone who
• 23:26
  has been put against the group as like this is a person who is
• 23:30
  the mood maker. It's just I feel like each of
• 23:33
  them kind of combated something that is very true to what's
• 23:39
  happened to them over the last. Like with J Hope, it's like
• 23:42
  persona of him being happy all the time or being the happy pill
• 23:46
  of the group or being the mood maker of the group and how that
• 23:50
  is not a sustainable, it's not really sustainable for anyone to
• 23:55
  be a constant like springboard when it comes to other people's
• 23:59
  happiness by way of their own. And the fact that, you know, I
• 24:03
  think he we've seen a lot of him kind of exploring these spaces
• 24:10
  for a while. I think of like Blue Side a
• 24:12
  little bit one of my favorites by him.
• 24:16
  Yeah. I just, I feel.
• 24:17
  And then of course, it's just with the whole like
• 24:19
  jack-in-the-box album with J Hope, I feel like was kind of
• 24:25
  exploring those like darker concepts and darker, like
• 24:29
  feelings. And this in my opinion, was kind
• 24:31
  of like this song kind of feels a little bit like we're settled
• 24:35
  with this. Like we are not maybe not healed
• 24:38
  from it completely, but we are accepting of the things that now
• 24:43
  are just become a normal part of our lives.
• 24:45
  So I think that if I listen to it in that way, I feel like
• 24:49
  Hobie is. And again, I feel like we're
• 24:51
  getting a little more deep in this one.
• 24:53
  But I feel like with Hobie's lyrics, I feel like it's more or
• 24:57
  less like he's OK with sometimes just being sad, I guess.
• 25:04
  And yeah, like that and like, understanding, like he says,
• 25:09
  like some pain don't heal. I don't know, like I'm not.
• 25:12
  Again, I don't try to take everything super literally, but
• 25:14
  I feel like this particular stretch with these three, he'll
• 25:18
  be very much focused on his happiness.
• 25:21
  And then you have Yungi who talks.
• 25:23
  It feels like it comes off about maybe dealing with his own
• 25:27
  anxieties. Kind of what I get from that was
• 25:29
  that I breathe everything out like 1000 times.
• 25:31
  That feels very like panicky to me.
• 25:34
  And like there's always this like there's this like
• 25:36
  conversation that goes around with these guys about like being
• 25:39
  special and being like, like a special case and feeling like
• 25:44
  he's as normal and special. They're just some lines.
• 25:46
  It's just lines. It's just it's just, it's just
• 25:50
  words in a way. And then you have Nam June, who
• 25:53
  I feel like this one kind of hit me the most.
• 25:56
  Nam June's part was I run away, pushing me, pulling me says you
• 25:59
  want to honor me. But what is even all of me?
• 26:02
  I feel like I think a lot about when he, he goes on live and
• 26:05
  he's he's like, in a way like I think a lot about like the, I
• 26:10
  don't know if you remember like the Frank Ocean debacle.
• 26:13
  Oh no, I remember. Yeah, and for whatever reason,
• 26:16
  that popped in my head when he when I heard him in his heart.
• 26:20
  And it's just like, I think I'll and I made a video about this a
• 26:23
  long time ago, just like his deconstruction of his
• 26:27
  relationship with himself as an idol.
• 26:29
  And I think this is also just kind of like feeding into that
• 26:33
  and all of these things. I think that they talk about
• 26:36
  specifically the rap line in the song and why I love this song so
• 26:40
  much is because it feels like my mind when I hear it.
• 26:45
  It's like they've accepted these things and whether or not these
• 26:50
  things change immediately or it is a steady process for the rest
• 26:54
  of their lives, I feel like they've come to the point of
• 26:56
  just accepting these things and that makes me very proud of
• 27:00
  them. And that's just the kind of way
• 27:02
  I see it and how I ran into it with with them specifically.
• 27:06
  Yeah. And then like even within the
• 27:08
  chorus, you can tell it was kind of supposed to be for like the
• 27:11
  whole group because like, you know the part where it's like,
• 27:13
  show me hate, show me love, make me bulletproof as well.
• 27:17
  And then I kind of resonant the wish I had a minute just to turn
• 27:20
  me off. That's definitely a non dude
• 27:21
  thing, especially how we know how he gets into his head a lot.
• 27:25
  And I think that's always also one of the parts in the
• 27:27
  documentary we saw with him talking to the other writer
• 27:31
  where she was telling him like, it's OK to put all of this in
• 27:33
  so. I'm glad she affirmed him.
• 27:36
  Yes, me too. I really enjoyed that scene.
• 27:38
  Yeah, I feel like a lot of the times you'll find people who
• 27:43
  especially who like, write their own shit, they they get caught
• 27:46
  up in their own head and think that they're either oversharing
• 27:49
  or they're not conveying the message as well as they'd like
• 27:52
  to. And then of course, you have the
• 27:53
  language barrier. Even though Namju is fluent, I
• 27:56
  think there's all there's always going to be times where things
• 28:00
  don't translate well from Korean to English, you know what I
• 28:03
  mean? They talk about that a little
• 28:04
  bit. Of course, yeah.
• 28:05
  And so I'm very glad that we saw that moment of them, of them
• 28:09
  working together. And again, just affirming that
• 28:13
  it's OK to be vulnerable. It's OK to put these things in
• 28:15
  there and it's OK for you to write exactly how you feel
• 28:19
  because that's the only way that like those things will flow.
• 28:22
  If you do, you can't just keep blocking.
• 28:23
  You can't keep holding on to it and blocking it from being
• 28:26
  released. So I enjoyed that a lot in the
• 28:30
  documentary and it is my favorite on this on this back
• 28:33
  half. So it's a staple for me in my
• 28:36
  daily listening. You and Gina as well because she
• 28:40
  will talk about the death, how much she loves this song, which
• 28:42
  I mean, for good reasons too. But yes, let's go on to our next
• 28:47
  song, which is like animals, you know, Definitely reminded me of
• 28:51
  my supernatural watching days. I feel like if supernatural TV
• 28:56
  shows were still very popular, this definitely would have been
• 28:59
  in one of those teen like drama supernatural shows like a teen
• 29:03
  wolf or Vampire Diaries. I could see it OK but it was
• 29:06
  produced by Diplo. Artemis diamendis, Toby dantree,
• 29:14
  Kevin white and lyrics by Thomas Wesley pence.
• 29:18
  Artemis Diamendis, Toby Daintree, Jess Fink, Kevin
• 29:25
  White, RM Kirsten Alice, Alyssa Spencer and Bold Knock.
• 29:31
  I don't really have any notes for the studio live.
• 29:35
  They didn't really talk about this song, they just talk about
• 29:37
  how it didn't really make it to the album almost, but they liked
• 29:41
  it because it gave like that rock band feeling which they
• 29:45
  wanted to keep. This is one of the songs in the
• 29:48
  second-half, which was all my, you know, lower end for me, if
• 29:52
  I'm going to be honest, which you would think I would like it
• 29:53
  more because I was into shows like Teen Wolf and all that back
• 29:57
  then. But it's grown me a little bit.
• 30:00
  I appreciate the song mainly for like, I think it was the later
• 30:04
  half where like Tay, John Cook and Jen are like doing that
• 30:08
  harmonizing. I do feel like this highlights
• 30:11
  Jen's higher vocal tone a lot more, which I enjoy.
• 30:15
  So that's why I listen to the song and like it and those
• 30:19
  senses. But you know, it's just, it's
• 30:22
  there for me, but I'll still listen to it.
• 30:25
  I think it's once again, I think when I remember seeing the, what
• 30:31
  is his name Artemis on TikTok just talk about, well, just
• 30:36
  allude to the fact that he was in the same space and was able
• 30:40
  to write for them, which I think is amazing.
• 30:42
  I think any time someone that's lesser known gets an opportunity
• 30:46
  like that, it's an amazing fee. I love seeing smaller artists be
• 30:50
  able to, you know, connect with and, and I think it was because
• 30:54
  1 of it was R.E.M. or I think it was R.E.M. that shared a song.
• 30:58
  And I remember I'd have to go look at the ever growing list of
• 31:01
  Namjun recommendations. I'm.
• 31:02
  Sure, it was probably him. More than likely.
• 31:04
  It was probably Namjun, honestly, because he's always
• 31:07
  given us, well, they all are in their own way, but he's
• 31:10
  definitely like the most consistent recommendation giver.
• 31:14
  But yeah, something as simple as that.
• 31:15
  Just like like your song, I'd like to work with you.
• 31:18
  That's like like a dream for some people, you know what I
• 31:21
  mean? So and with the song itself, I
• 31:25
  think it's giving it's, it's not like a lot of people will be
• 31:29
  like, oh, it's just like, well, I don't think everybody thinks
• 31:32
  like this. I think there's a obviously a a
• 31:33
  select few people who think that the song is very sensual, has
• 31:37
  very sexual like undertone to it, which I mean, you can make
• 31:42
  anything like that. I guess you could literally
• 31:44
  make, you know, some the stupidest shit very sexual.
• 31:47
  But I don't think I don't I didn't let me just say this
• 31:50
  clearly. I don't I didn't get anything
• 31:52
  sexual of any song on this album.
• 31:53
  But I do think it has that very the the sensuality that comes
• 31:59
  with like a rock song, especially like a slower rock
• 32:01
  song. Thinking of people like what was
• 32:06
  their name? I just listened to them earlier.
• 32:08
  Hold on a second, give me a second.
• 32:10
  I mean I'm going to go look it up.
• 32:11
  Oh my God. Like I'm really ill prepared
• 32:14
  right now and as soon as I see I'm going to be pissed because I
• 32:17
  know, I know. I'm about to type in the song
• 32:18
  right now. Kings Of Leon.
• 32:20
  Why the fuck could I not think of their name?
• 32:22
  I think of Kings Of Leon, Kings Of Leon and people like Hoyser
• 32:27
  and like just people who like explore.
• 32:30
  Even if they're talking about deeper songs.
• 32:31
  Sometimes their songs are just immediately like connected with
• 32:35
  like sexy feeling and I feel like this kind of does similar a
• 32:38
  similar thing. I don't think the lyrics
• 32:40
  themselves are inherently sexual.
• 32:43
  I think the vibe of the song gives very sensual, so I like
• 32:47
  it, though it was was an automatic like yes for me, I
• 32:51
  think, and I'm a soccer for a good guitar solo.
• 32:54
  So that really got me more than anything.
• 32:58
  And enjoyed their performance of it on the Netflix special.
• 33:01
  I didn't think they were going to do it because it is, you
• 33:04
  know, a slower song and you know with that, but you know, I think
• 33:07
  it fits it definitely. I think the more that you sit
• 33:09
  with this album, most of these songs, granted this is all we
• 33:12
  have to compare to the songs definitely fit within the it's
• 33:17
  it's it is what's the word I'm looking for this track listing
• 33:22
  and the way that it flows, it works like.
• 33:24
  And so I think this is a good kind of ending of that three or
• 33:28
  four song trend of it being kind of the slowing of it down.
• 33:32
  And because we get back into a little bit more poppy pop heavy
• 33:37
  on the latter latter half of the second-half.
• 33:40
  I did like I did enjoy like animals and I do hope that maybe
• 33:46
  Yunki does a guitar solo. I'm not going to lie to you.
• 33:48
  I feel like as much as they gave him shit for what what it doms
• 33:52
  you and say you can be on the guitar like 10 hours a day will
• 33:56
  show me. I want to see it.
• 33:57
  Yeah, I was surprised about that.
• 33:59
  But should I be? Really Not.
• 34:01
  No, I shouldn't. He's a fucking Pisces man, man.
• 34:04
  I don't know much about astrology, OK?
• 34:06
  All I know is I'm a Taurus and that's it.
• 34:08
  I don't know much. OK, that's.
• 34:09
  All you need to know. OK.
• 34:10
  But yes, hopefully maybe in like the finale or something, you can
• 34:15
  you can bring out that guitar and show us what you got on this
• 34:19
  song. OK, so we're going to move on to
• 34:23
  my favorite song of the second-half, which is They don't
• 34:27
  Know About us. And again, say thank you to Park
• 34:29
  Jimin, who apparently had a really big hand and making the
• 34:34
  song producers on This is P Dog Ghost Loop and Y2K, with lyrics
• 34:41
  by P dog ghost loop RE star Staris Rug, Curtis Wells, RM
• 34:49
  Sugar, J Ho, Jimin and yes. And like I stated, they were
• 34:55
  really praising Jimin during the studio notes for this.
• 34:58
  It was interesting too, because he said he was struggling at
• 35:00
  first because this is the thing about Weaver's translation.
• 35:04
  Sometimes they'd be messing up. So I don't really know what he
• 35:07
  was trying to say. It was something along the lines
• 35:10
  of like, the translations were giving me something like the
• 35:13
  intention for the song was You Make Me Weak, and he was
• 35:17
  thinking about the fans and ARMY in that sense.
• 35:21
  So I'm not really sure what he meant by that.
• 35:25
  And then it turned into like, I guess the original tension as
• 35:28
  well. So I don't know if that meant
• 35:31
  like the original fan. The original intention was fans
• 35:34
  make them weak because they don't know about them or like,
• 35:37
  put on, you know, these type of what they perceive for them,
• 35:41
  which isn't true. But yeah, that's something I
• 35:44
  found interesting. Him and Namji kept repeating
• 35:46
  like original tension of trying to make this was like feeling
• 35:50
  weak and pathetic in a way. That from the artist notes or
• 35:55
  the studio notes or just throughout that.
• 35:57
  No, that was from the studio note live that they kept talking
• 36:01
  about. The original thought for the
• 36:03
  song was fans making them feel weak, which I don't don't really
• 36:06
  know how to interpret that like because I don't want to come off
• 36:09
  negative, but that's not what it meant due to translations.
• 36:11
  But that's what they were saying because even now I'm doing in
• 36:13
  English, I heard him say like we and pathetic.
• 36:16
  So not really sure. Interesting, in which I feel
• 36:20
  like it's funny because one of the highlights of this song is J
• 36:25
  OP's verse where he talks about the the thing that's like a
• 36:31
  triple entendre. It's he says you say we change.
• 36:35
  We I mentioned this in Discord, but I'll say here the there's
• 36:40
  three versions of that that I feel.
• 36:42
  And if that's what if, because I have not be honest, I have not
• 36:45
  watched the studio notes. I just haven't gotten around to
• 36:47
  it. But the fact that if that's the
• 36:49
  translation for like the fans make them weak, I think that can
• 36:53
  also like kind of tie into what J Hope was talking about.
• 36:57
  Because I feel like we're going to go on a tangent here.
• 37:01
  Try not to because again, it's getting to that point.
• 37:04
  But I think the ARMY has done a bit, a lot for BTS.
• 37:07
  Not going to sit here and take away from it that the fandom has
• 37:09
  definitely helped them in many ways, getting them where they're
• 37:13
  at. But I think that fandom has also
• 37:15
  hindered them in a way. I think when you have a fan base
• 37:20
  that is as large as ARMY and you are a artist who is very much in
• 37:26
  tune with not only yourself, but kind of like global opinion of
• 37:31
  you or the global opinion of your group.
• 37:33
  Hard to not look into those things.
• 37:36
  When people talk about you or people have or blogs have
• 37:39
  something to say and you know, it's just like it's hard to turn
• 37:44
  off the noise. At the same time, I think it's
• 37:49
  to a point, I think with the fandoms, with a fandom and this
• 37:54
  group that much like how this album was received, it, it can
• 38:00
  definitely play a part in what they're willing to try and what
• 38:05
  they're willing to attempt for either fear or just like doubt
• 38:11
  for themselves, for their for the sound or the intention to go
• 38:17
  across the right way. And that I, I mean, I, I if that
• 38:20
  is the right. And again, I don't know, I don't
• 38:22
  know what the exact translation turns out to be, but just
• 38:25
  hearing it just verbatim, I can can agree like I can agree with
• 38:30
  that sentiment and how that ties, I think into what Jay was
• 38:33
  talking about. It's like you say, we've
• 38:35
  changed, We feel the same. So like you, the public say that
• 38:39
  we BTS or, you know, does me as an artist have changed, but we
• 38:43
  feel the same. We've not changed at all.
• 38:47
  It that's one meaning, in my opinion, about that.
• 38:50
  The second meaning is you say we've changed.
• 38:53
  We feel the same as in you say we've changed and we agree with
• 38:58
  you. We have changed.
• 39:00
  And then the third one is you say we change, we feel the same
• 39:03
  as in we feel the same way. You feel like you feel that
• 39:07
  we've changed, we feel like you change.
• 39:09
  So I feel like these are three different things that can also
• 39:11
  tie into how these, you know, the with with the whole like the
• 39:16
  fans make them weak. If that's if that is what ties
• 39:20
  into it, which is kind of it's it's it's a sucky position to be
• 39:24
  in, I think, because you want to obviously, like make music that
• 39:27
  your fans enjoy, right? That's the whole point, The
• 39:29
  point, the whole point of making music.
• 39:32
  Part of the of the reason is to make music that want to listen
• 39:36
  to people really want to be participate with.
• 39:38
  But there's a part of that that kind of what's the word before?
• 39:43
  There's a part of doing what your fans want to do that limits
• 39:47
  your creativity in a way, because if they all they want to
• 39:51
  hear is the, you know, butter, dynamite provision and dance
• 39:55
  type shit. You want to make, you know, like
• 39:57
  just using noms. You like the monos and the Jack
• 40:00
  in the boxes and the D days and the faces and you know the
• 40:04
  sevens and the happy and the. What is Tay's album called?
• 40:13
  Layover and think about it. Yeah, it was coming down there.
• 40:16
  I have mall and they're in that box.
• 40:20
  When you want to do something that's different from what I
• 40:22
  guess people kind of pitch again, going back to the
• 40:24
  conversation earlier about Black talking about being pigeonholed.
• 40:28
  That is a weakening of sorts, having to do music that people
• 40:31
  enjoy, people that you know, maybe don't know your story,
• 40:35
  that don't know your struggle. And not that you have to be tied
• 40:38
  to that struggle, but you're telling the story as as you go.
• 40:42
  And if all your fans of all the global majority wants to hear is
• 40:47
  the shit that makes them feel good, you kind of like crippled
• 40:50
  a bit, I think when it comes to what you're willing to try or
• 40:54
  even feel confident enough to try.
• 40:57
  Like, I can't imagine what it would look like if they felt
• 41:01
  that way and then we weren't able to get some of the music
• 41:03
  we've gotten from them over the years with like the solo
• 41:06
  projects and stuff. Imagine feeling that like
• 41:09
  limited in a way that you don't even care to try.
• 41:12
  I mean, it's like JK forever to make, you know, golden.
• 41:15
  Mostly because he wanted to rot. Say he didn't even want to make
• 41:19
  in the first place. Yeah, mostly because he wanted
• 41:21
  to rot, which, you know, right, Rightfully so.
• 41:23
  But like, it's just one of those things.
• 41:25
  It's just like, yeah, I mean, there's room, there's space to
• 41:28
  make the the the songs that make you feel good.
• 41:31
  But like, that's not what BTS started off as.
• 41:34
  And again, it's going back to this conversation of like going
• 41:38
  back to their quote UN quote roots.
• 41:40
  Like in a way, they've never really left that.
• 41:43
  They've never really left speaking about the things that
• 41:45
  trouble them and plagued them and the the issues that they
• 41:48
  deal with. I mean, we've seen it throughout
• 41:50
  the the solo projects as well. That's part of their identity.
• 41:54
  And yeah, I think I don't, I don't.
• 41:57
  Again, I don't know what the translation is as far as like if
• 42:00
  that's correct, but it does sound on par, like it's it
• 42:03
  really much does. If that's what it is, it sounds
• 42:05
  pretty much on par. Yeah, and I mean, you can tell,
• 42:07
  too. Like they're also talking about
• 42:09
  things that people on the outside of the fandom have said
• 42:13
  about them. Like we have the first of the
• 42:16
  lyrics. Like, what's what was so
• 42:18
  different about you? They keep asking and I tell them
• 42:20
  I don't know and like with the quotes like this is how they
• 42:23
  made it I'm right and them at a reiterating which Namdu says a
• 42:27
  lot how they're just like 7 Korean like country boys in a
• 42:30
  sense. And that said that's to where JK
• 42:33
  sings apart like we're just big boys AKA country boys.
• 42:37
  Yungi also kills me in his part. I didn't realize he said this.
• 42:40
  It's in Korean, but the translation is basically like
• 42:43
  with your nosiness as big as the Pacific Ocean, which damn bro.
• 42:49
  I mean it's just such a line. Your nosiness is as big as the
• 42:53
  Pacific Ocean. Isn't that like the biggest
• 42:55
  ocean we have I. Believe so, yeah.
• 42:58
  Yeah, so just great song by Park Jimin that I very, very much
• 43:04
  enjoy. And then we're going to go on.
• 43:07
  Don't worry, guys, We have three more songs left.
• 43:10
  If you're still with us, thanks for sticking with us.
• 43:12
  Right? We have one more night.
• 43:15
  Listen, do I need to break the 4th wall or just keep going?
• 43:19
  Just do whatever. You feel is necessary.
• 43:23
  It's so late for both of us, but we're just going to keep going.
• 43:27
  I don't know if you can tell the changes in my voice because it's
• 43:30
  hurting from talking so much anyway.
• 43:33
  One more night. Produced by Diplo, P Dog and
• 43:37
  Nitty Lyrics by Thomas Welsh pens P Dog, Bo NOx, Richard Cook
• 43:44
  Mirrors the 4th RM Sugar, J Hope and Aunt Aunt Clemid.
• 43:50
  Clemence. Clemence, I didn't write that
• 43:52
  correctly. That was my spell check.
• 43:54
  Yes. John Cook in the studio notes
• 43:57
  Live compared the song to older BTS songs.
• 44:01
  He actually used Home as an example, which I thought was
• 44:04
  very interesting, stating how this was a nice, easy listening
• 44:08
  to song and especially since they had previous heavy songs
• 44:10
  that were played before in the album.
• 44:13
  I think. I'm sure they were talking about
• 44:14
  like Animals and Like Normal and Merry Go Round.
• 44:17
  So this was supposed to kind of bring the mood back up and from
• 44:21
  my understanding, didn't seem like Nam didn't really like the
• 44:24
  song at first. I don't know if it grew on him
• 44:27
  or not, but that's the vibe I was catching.
• 44:29
  I think he said it too. I might have missed it, but
• 44:32
  yeah, I mean, I enjoy the song. This is definitely a song I feel
• 44:36
  like you can listen to, like driving at night.
• 44:38
  Yeah, it definitely gives like a Euro pop feel.
• 44:41
  I enjoy. I guess I like the Princess as
• 44:45
  far as just like the different genre and music types that we're
• 44:48
  getting we've gotten from this album.
• 44:50
  It definitely was one of those songs that took me a while to
• 44:53
  get into after, you know, my first couple of lessons.
• 44:56
  I think it's a good general song.
• 44:58
  The melody at the end has been driving me crazy as I know I've
• 45:02
  heard that melody before. That very last part cannot for
• 45:06
  like me figure out, and I'm still to this day trying to
• 45:08
  figure it out. So if anybody in the comment
• 45:09
  section knows where that melody's from, please put it in
• 45:11
  the comment section or yeah, because I need to know.
• 45:14
  But anyway, I like it though. I mean, again, we're getting
• 45:17
  some very light vocals from the rap line as far as just like
• 45:24
  them kind of dipping in some more vocal melodic tone, but
• 45:30
  it's kind of fits right up the rest of their alley, like the
• 45:33
  vocal liners. This is kind of like their bag.
• 45:35
  I think so I liked it though. I thought it was a nice little
• 45:39
  palette cleanser from some of the more serious conversations
• 45:43
  or serious subject matter. And the other song.
• 45:45
  Yeah, you can tell. It's supposed to be
• 45:47
  lighthearted. You know, I guess if John Cook
• 45:52
  wants to compare it to Home because I thought we said home
• 45:55
  was kind of like an Army song, I can see that, too.
• 45:57
  This is where I feel like the next two gets in my eyes gets a
• 46:01
  little bit more, I guess sensual in a way, like, you know, and
• 46:05
  doesn't have to mean like sensual doesn't have to be like
• 46:08
  sexual, but just like, you know, just wanted to hang out with
• 46:10
  someone or also like getting lost in the fantasy, which they
• 46:13
  talk about in the lyrics. But they also say, you know,
• 46:16
  you're my fantasy. But that could also just mean
• 46:18
  like fantasy of just, you know, being together for a night no
• 46:22
  matter what that means. Doesn't have to be sexually, but
• 46:24
  just like you know, hanging out as well going into the
• 46:27
  dreamscape of just like not wanting to face reality.
• 46:30
  Also, I guess I didn't realize there was a part in this lyric
• 46:33
  where it says Celine, you who are like Celine, which
• 46:38
  apparently is the goddess last personification of the moon in
• 46:42
  Greek mythology, which is showing Nam June's, you know,
• 46:45
  big brain and his very love of Greek mythology.
• 46:49
  He's. A nerd.
• 46:50
  I love my nerd, Yes. We do.
• 46:52
  We do love his big brain. His big, sexy brain.
• 46:54
  We do. Yeah, no, I, I feel like a lot
• 46:57
  of this album has like Greek mythology written all over it.
• 47:03
  Few of few of the tracks are very reminiscent of like the
• 47:06
  Odyssey, I think with, you know, swim haulbacks or whatever.
• 47:11
  And so I had to think it was my brain was getting worse.
• 47:14
  It's getting up what we're almost done.
• 47:15
  This was good. But yeah, I can.
• 47:18
  I think there was in the beginning of all like this
• 47:21
  promotion and stuff. There were like some
• 47:23
  similarities to some Greek mythology stuff.
• 47:26
  So makes sense that they would continue that track.
• 47:29
  And they're very obsessed with space.
• 47:31
  I think too. You know, we have like Ego
• 47:34
  Cosmos, which is very much a Spacey song, but it's also an
• 47:37
  army song. Kind of reminds me a little, not
• 47:39
  in theme or like in sound, but that's kind of if if you know,
• 47:42
  bringing that into it. We also have Pluto from Love
• 47:46
  Yourself. Too.
• 47:47
  Do we have it? 134340 Listen.
• 47:51
  Didn't NASA put it on their playlist like a few years ago?
• 47:54
  Years ago? I don't know.
• 47:55
  I know this recent one. No, they didn't make.
• 47:57
  No, yeah, this is a new list, but I think the old list, they
• 48:00
  did add it, I don't remember. We have moved by Jinn.
• 48:04
  Very Again, yeah. And he made Wuto, who's a space
• 48:07
  alien. Oh yeah, I guess he's an alien.
• 48:10
  He is an alien, yeah. So space.
• 48:14
  Space. I mean, yeah, yeah, I can
• 48:16
  definitely see some of them, you know, nerding out over what's
• 48:19
  going on currently with the, what is it, Artemis, the moon
• 48:22
  landing thing? Yeah, I'm sure they're watching.
• 48:24
  Are they still in space? Are they still circling the
• 48:27
  moon? I'm.
• 48:27
  Not a nerd, I didn't watch it so I don't know.
• 48:29
  Oh. My God, I didn't watch it either
• 48:32
  because, you know, in Florida, we have the space station here.
• 48:35
  So like the lawn. So like, I know one time my dad
• 48:38
  came home, he running into the house.
• 48:40
  He's like the this launch is going off.
• 48:43
  And I just continued to watch TV on the couch because I do not
• 48:45
  care. I'm not I'm not going to get up.
• 48:47
  Oh no, he called me. Actually, no, he didn't come
• 48:49
  into the house. He called me because he pulled
• 48:51
  up to the apartment. He's like, hey, the space launch
• 48:53
  is about to go off. Then he hung up and I was like,
• 48:56
  OK, well. Thanks for telling me.
• 48:58
  Thank you, but yes, I didn't really have much to say about
• 49:01
  One More Night. There's not really like lyrics
• 49:03
  to delve into, but again, that's fine because you always don't
• 49:07
  need serious lyrics people. But yes.
• 49:11
  I think that what's funny about you saying that?
• 49:13
  Just real quick, what's funny about you saying that it took a
• 49:15
  while for Namjun to grow on him? It kind of gives like it should
• 49:19
  have been on Indigo This. Song.
• 49:22
  Yeah, I feel like it has like that vibe of not hectic.
• 49:26
  What is the song he did or hectic?
• 49:28
  I see this on Golden, not indigo.
• 49:32
  I can. See this?
• 49:33
  Like the song he did with DJ Snake?
• 49:37
  Didn't he do one also called closer or closer to you?
• 49:40
  I can see that coming after this.
• 49:43
  Actually, it with what is the song?
• 49:45
  It's not hectic, it's what came before hectic.
• 49:49
  Let's track this in my head. Do you need?
• 49:51
  Me to to research it. Yeah, it doesn't seem like I'm
• 49:55
  doing. I mean, again, I don't know if
• 49:56
  it changed, but he did express this is one of the songs he
• 50:00
  didn't really care for, I believe.
• 50:01
  I'm surprised to hear you say you could have heard this on
• 50:04
  Indigo. Wow, it was like there's a song
• 50:06
  that no. Closer with Paul Block.
• 50:10
  OK, well there's also changed Part 2, Wildflower forgetfulness
• 50:17
  or forgetful. I don't think it's Indigo you're
• 50:20
  thinking about because there's only either all day with
• 50:23
  Tableau, still Life, or you. All day.
• 50:26
  There it is. Yeah.
• 50:28
  All day, really. That was the song.
• 50:29
  I knew it was coming. I was like, there's got to be
• 50:31
  another one. I don't see it.
• 50:33
  Yeah, go when you later go listen to all day.
• 50:36
  It's not like verbatim but like I feel like it.
• 50:39
  They are kind of similar. I could have seen this song on
• 50:42
  Golden by JK as like if it was one of his singles, Right,
• 50:46
  right. But yeah, it's pretty much one
• 50:49
  more night. So we're going to get into
• 50:51
  second to last, which is please. I think for me personally, this
• 50:55
  is the most central song that they have.
• 50:58
  So it was produced by Tyler Bry Spray Spray OK, with lyrics by
• 51:05
  Tyler Spray, James Essen, Ryan Tedder, RM, Sugar J Hope.
• 51:10
  And then they stated, I guess it's supposed to be the fan
• 51:13
  song. So this song is dedicated to
• 51:15
  ARMY, as they always like to say.
• 51:17
  There's got to be one song in there.
• 51:19
  And again, they didn't really talk about the song because they
• 51:21
  ended up going into a debate as people would like the first half
• 51:25
  of the album more than the second-half and vice versa.
• 51:27
  So they kind of just mentioned this was the song for ARMY and
• 51:31
  then also their ADHD brains kicked in.
• 51:34
  They talked about something completely different, not the
• 51:37
  song at all. Makes sense.
• 51:40
  Have you seen hate to like marrying up the meme but the
• 51:44
  meme of what the song sounds like?
• 51:45
  What it sounds like now. So have you ever seen the
• 51:48
  episode of SpongeBob? Where?
• 51:51
  Like where? It's Pearl's birthday?
• 51:56
  My God. Hold on you guys.
• 51:58
  I need you to hear it. Oh my God.
• 52:01
  Is this a newer episode? No worry I guess.
• 52:07
  'Cause I almost thought you were going to say stripe sweater.
• 52:09
  No. Best time to wear a stripe
• 52:12
  sweater? No, it's boys who cry.
• 52:15
  All the time. Oh, that little like fish boy
• 52:18
  group. Yeah.
• 52:20
  Right. Yeah.
• 52:22
  I remember, I don't remember the song, but I I visually remember
• 52:25
  that now because she was obsessed with them.
• 52:38
  Did you hear? It I didn't.
• 52:41
  OK, it comes on. I'm sure it's on my side of the
• 52:44
  recording. Oh I know if it's on your side
• 52:48
  then it's fine, but no I I haven't seen that meme.
• 52:53
  I'll have to look that up later. When you look at it, yeah, you
• 52:55
  want to take, you're going to hear, it's going to be so loud.
• 52:57
  I didn't mean for it to be that loud.
• 52:58
  So just be prepared to hear like laughing to the speaker.
• 53:05
  Anyway, it's very reminiscent of that song.
• 53:08
  And so, but no, I, I, I tend to this one.
• 53:13
  I felt like like I get why people thought it was very
• 53:16
  sensual, sexual, whatever, because it's like the language
• 53:19
  around it for them to be like, oh, this is army song just like,
• 53:23
  OK, but you know, like. Yeah.
• 53:27
  I don't know who's more delusional, us or them.
• 53:30
  I think it's an equal playing field at this point.
• 53:33
  I'm not sure, I think they got a speed.
• 53:36
  JK got his beat. Well, Namjoo starting to creep
• 53:40
  up there. Yeah, no, I think this is a very
• 53:44
  solid kind of rounding down work as again we're getting again the
• 53:49
  second before last song. And again, this song really does
• 53:52
  kind of move and wave where we have the very first like very
• 53:55
  high intensity, the bell hits and then we're like we kind of
• 53:58
  dip really like in a slower pace.
• 54:01
  But then we kind of come back up with one More night.
• 54:03
  And please is kind of, I think a a good balance song when it
• 54:08
  comes to like tempo and stuff. I'm surprised that the song
• 54:14
  didn't get more push for like a not like a like a music video or
• 54:21
  nothing. But I'm surprised that, like, we
• 54:23
  didn't get this like at the Netflix special.
• 54:25
  I'm surprised about that too, and it seems like to be a fan
• 54:28
  favorite a lot of people really like.
• 54:30
  Please. Again, not one of my favorites,
• 54:32
  but I think it's a good again, I don't think any of these songs
• 54:35
  are bad. Let me just put that out there.
• 54:37
  I think all these songs sound sonically are really good, even
• 54:40
  though all we're going to talk about in a second that seems
• 54:42
  everyone hates, I think. But anyway, just Browning my
• 54:48
  opinion on please, you know, I mean, I do think it's a little
• 54:51
  more mature. It has more mature theming,
• 54:54
  which is, you know, get what people think.
• 54:56
  It's again more sexual sensual. Well, you know, I don't think
• 55:00
  anything's that explicit. I you know, I think it just has
• 55:04
  that vibe of just like yearning in a way, and it feels very like
• 55:09
  a yearner song. What you know I'm all for men
• 55:12
  bring back yearning because. Listen, that's what we're
• 55:15
  missing in today's music. Bring back men yearning, you
• 55:20
  know, I agree. But yeah, I mean, there's
• 55:22
  definitely yearning in this, especially, you know, you get in
• 55:25
  the chorus. I know people as far as like the
• 55:28
  sexual essential, whatever people want to say.
• 55:30
  I know they point out the like the hug me from the front, back,
• 55:33
  left, right, a lot. And then I know there's a part
• 55:37
  in the chorus of I think district case, say I'll do that
• 55:41
  thing for you. So of course people want to
• 55:44
  interpret that as what they want.
• 55:45
  But I know there was a few reasons for that.
• 55:48
  But like, even listening or not listening, looking at this, like
• 55:51
  towards the end, I see one of lyrics here that says
• 55:54
  translated, yeah, wishing our souls to be together forever.
• 55:57
  So I mean, I kind of understand why in those senses they can say
• 56:01
  this is an ARMY song. I'm just talking about how we're
• 56:05
  going to be together forever, basically besties forever.
• 56:08
  BTS and ARMY are one. Yeah, besties.
• 56:14
  Yeah, sure, whatever. What other words should I use
• 56:17
  besides? Bestie no, that's it.
• 56:19
  I mean just the slight in quotations.
• 56:21
  BS and then even towards the end too of like being on by each
• 56:25
  other's side even on our worst days and holding each other
• 56:29
  tight. Yeah.
• 56:31
  Even. Hell, I'm down.
• 56:32
  All I want is you. Does that make you feel
• 56:34
  sentimental? Sure.
• 56:39
  No, it's just I mean, I can see it being kind of a AI wouldn't
• 56:43
  even say like appreciation song. But yeah, I think, you know, I
• 56:48
  think it has some undertones of just being very like, what's the
• 56:53
  word I'm looking for, Being very nostalgic about the relationship
• 56:59
  they have with their fans. I can see it.
• 57:03
  But of course everybody just looks at it in a certain way,
• 57:05
  like we're not talking about being besties and getting coffee
• 57:09
  and shit. We're talking yeah, y'all are
• 57:10
  talking about foot and I'm getting, no, it's good, a good
• 57:16
  solid song. I think it has a decent enough
• 57:20
  song structure for sure. I'm a love Namjun's again.
• 57:25
  Love when Namjun gives us any vocals like a weakness of mine.
• 57:30
  So love that he does that again. Going back to that me from the
• 57:37
  front, back, left, right. Love that part.
• 57:40
  So my sucker for Namjun singing a little sing song.
• 57:45
  Interested to know how they're going to incorporate that.
• 57:48
  In what the concert? I feel like it's a song that
• 57:53
  kind of, again, it builds back up.
• 57:56
  So I feel like it's going to, I don't know, be maybe in the
• 57:58
  middle section. I don't know.
• 58:01
  I still have to make a Shay's projected set list, which is
• 58:05
  probably going to be all fucking wrong.
• 58:09
  I'm not going to confirm or deny until after your concert for
• 58:13
  your wishes. I.
• 58:14
  Do appreciate it. Of course.
• 58:17
  But yes, that's pretty much self-explanatory when it comes
• 58:21
  to please. And then we are on to our final
• 58:28
  song. God.
• 58:29
  Thank God not because listen, it's way past my bedtime, OK, I.
• 58:37
  Don't think you ever stay on this late, girl.
• 58:39
  Rarely. Very rarely.
• 58:41
  I'm an old lady, OK? And the youngest of us all and
• 58:45
  yet acts like she's like 90 years old.
• 58:47
  I like my sleep and that's also because it's hard for me to
• 58:51
  actually sleep. I don't sleep well during the
• 58:53
  night, so like when I can get sleep anyway, we have into the
• 58:58
  sun, which I'm going to be honest, I liked into the sun
• 59:01
  when I first heard it. I can I can tell like I
• 59:04
  understand being thrown off by like the auto tune especially,
• 59:08
  but like after the second listen, I was like, you know
• 59:10
  what, I get this. I understand why Tay fought for
• 59:13
  this song so hard. So the producer credits are P
• 59:16
  dog Diplo, Tyler Johnson, Nitty and ghost loop lyrics by P dog
• 59:22
  Thomas Wesley Pence V Jimmin. I think I pronounced this
• 59:26
  earlier. Is it Tezo or?
• 59:28
  Tezo, Tezo touchdown. Tezo touchdown key on D
• 59:34
  Cambaran, Richard Cook mirrors the 4th Tyler Johnson ghost
• 59:40
  loop, RM Suga and J Hope. And again they really pointed
• 59:45
  out how Tang fought for the song.
• 59:47
  He must have, you know, understood the assignment first.
• 59:50
  Listen, Yugi was going to this whole story and I am so sorry.
• 59:57
  He really lost me because he started talking about technical
• 59:59
  terms when it came to music and like the sound boards and like
• 1:00:03
  different programming. I'm like, I know you need this
• 1:00:05
  supposed to be funny. I don't.
• 1:00:06
  I don't understand anything you're talking about.
• 1:00:09
  No. I'm sure it was hilarious 'cause
• 1:00:12
  it went along with, you know, almost losing the file, so I
• 1:00:15
  know how that feels. Relatable, right?
• 1:00:17
  Right stuff. Not so funny now, right?
• 1:00:20
  You should have paid attention. Maybe you learn something about
• 1:00:24
  no I knew right off RIP listening to this people were
• 1:00:28
  not going to like it. Like as soon as I heard the
• 1:00:31
  first like lyric the choice and using that over overdone kind of
• 1:00:40
  vocal ish fry ish auto tune is not very pleasant on 1st listen.
• 1:00:49
  It reminded talked a lot about when we got the album listening
• 1:00:54
  to it in my note, I said it reminded me and I hate to bring
• 1:00:57
  this person up because they are super, super problematic, but
• 1:01:00
  it's true. Very much Kanye influenced in my
• 1:01:04
  opinion. Kind of has like the album.
• 1:01:09
  It has the song Ghost Town on it and Ghost Town to me it has a 07
• 1:01:15
  a shake on it and I just feel like it really embodies like
• 1:01:18
  that. You know, it gives a little bit
• 1:01:20
  of Post Malone too prior to the country ship.
• 1:01:23
  So and again, they've all kind of worked together on projects.
• 1:01:27
  So I I can definitely see where the influences come from.
• 1:01:30
  I can see why somebody like Tay would fight for this song
• 1:01:35
  because he's, you know, he's a little weirdo and he tends to
• 1:01:38
  drift towards the type of music I think that isn't popular, but
• 1:01:46
  it is timeless. And I think this is going to
• 1:01:49
  want to be one of those songs over time, people are going to
• 1:01:53
  grow to love. I look at like you.
• 1:01:55
  I loved it on 1st listen. It was obviously again, it's
• 1:01:59
  it's it's a choice. And much like in the same vein
• 1:02:05
  as I think a lot the reason why people didn't not didn't like.
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  But people were a little apprehensive on Jimin's first
• 1:02:13
  project face with the stylish choice of the auto tune.
• 1:02:17
  Like I don't know why people get so like worked up about auto
• 1:02:19
  tune. Like it's it's in every song.
• 1:02:22
  It's not sometimes it's not used as a like a stylistic choice,
• 1:02:26
  but it is in every song. Like auto tune is present in
• 1:02:28
  every song that's ever been put out in the mixing and master.
• 1:02:33
  Some people like I don't like because of altitude.
• 1:02:35
  You don't like any music because everything has auto tune in it
• 1:02:38
  of some sort. Literally everything.
• 1:02:40
  Literally. And so I get what people mean,
• 1:02:44
  but that's not what you said. And so for me, it's just like,
• 1:02:47
  I'm cool with it because again, I grew up in the era of like the
• 1:02:50
  T pains who was primarily Then again, auto tune doesn't mean
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  like what people like. Obviously don't some people
• 1:02:56
  know, some people don't. You still have to be able to say
• 1:02:59
  you can't just like auto tune doesn't fix that.
• 1:03:01
  You know what I'm saying? Like you still have to be able
• 1:03:03
  to carry a note, otherwise you're going to be sounding
• 1:03:07
  crazy. And again, I knew all for it.
• 1:03:09
  People weren't going to like it because it's so piercing.
• 1:03:13
  It's in that it's in that it's in that range that really kind
• 1:03:16
  of bike by it's like, again, nails on a chalkboard kind of.
• 1:03:19
  But I think it's going to be one of those projects.
• 1:03:21
  It's me one of the ones that's a slow favorite for people,
• 1:03:27
  especially when they get it, because I've got to hope they
• 1:03:30
  perform it. I'm pretty sure they do.
• 1:03:32
  And if that's the closer, man, it's going to be a very
• 1:03:36
  emotional, I think, because again, the sentiment around this
• 1:03:40
  album and people, the way people acted about it when it comes to
• 1:03:44
  just being so sort of opinionated about it, it's like
• 1:03:47
  you think this would be their last project, but the the song
• 1:03:50
  into the Sun feels like we're literally like moving into the
• 1:03:55
  next phase. So I appreciate that.
• 1:03:57
  Like again, overall, like I think that each song that was
• 1:04:02
  chosen, I would absolutely one day love for them.
• 1:04:05
  I'm sure we'll hear them eventually in in other projects.
• 1:04:08
  Love to know what was left behind and you know what songs
• 1:04:12
  or peep they fought over and you know, whatever the case may be
• 1:04:16
  just to see because like I'll let you say your thoughts about
• 1:04:20
  the song before I move on to that.
• 1:04:22
  Me. Yeah, well, you're the only
• 1:04:24
  other person hears somehow. Anyway, we talked about this
• 1:04:31
  already is getting to that time. We almost done girl we right
• 1:04:35
  around the corner. I don't have much to really say
• 1:04:37
  about it, you know, because I can, I understand why this is
• 1:04:42
  the end, and it's good that Please went before it as well.
• 1:04:45
  It's kind of along the same like sentiment of just like the
• 1:04:49
  togetherness, always being together but also being there
• 1:04:53
  for each other. Especially times of like
• 1:04:55
  darkness, which I think they referenced in the song as well,
• 1:04:59
  following each other into the sun.
• 1:05:03
  Yeah, especially during like hardships and all that.
• 1:05:06
  I was looking at the lyrics while I'm on dole sets website.
• 1:05:10
  It's interesting because I didn't realize there's a part
• 1:05:13
  kind of random kind of not, but it's the time between dogs and
• 1:05:17
  wolves. And I guess the time between
• 1:05:19
  dogs and wolves refers to dusk from the French, French idiom.
• 1:05:24
  I cannot pronounce that, so I'm not even going to.
• 1:05:27
  At dusk, you cannot tell if the creatures running towards you
• 1:05:31
  from afar is a friendly dog or a hostile wolf.
• 1:05:34
  So that's very interesting more because like I guess it goes
• 1:05:39
  into the whole I go into the whole verse.
• 1:05:41
  I don't remember whose verse this is, but it's the time
• 1:05:44
  between dogs and wolves. The broken compasses of animals
• 1:05:47
  are escape in front of the chaoses and regrets a human
• 1:05:51
  breathing and resisting want to go home to where you are.
• 1:05:54
  So I guess, again, that just goes into what I was saying of
• 1:05:58
  being there for each other even through the tough times.
• 1:06:01
  And you can kind of see this reflected, I guess, to you of
• 1:06:03
  like military with the way they feel about fans.
• 1:06:07
  I mean, I don't know, I've never seen anyone be so worried about
• 1:06:12
  what their fan think first before themselves like I do with
• 1:06:16
  BTS. And I feel like this also
• 1:06:19
  reflects out of like following each other into the sun, like
• 1:06:23
  waiting for them to come back and all that.
• 1:06:25
  So I'm not sure if any of this is making sense.
• 1:06:28
  Yeah, I think, you know, if you look at it from a literal
• 1:06:31
  standpoint, like I think what you were trying to get around to
• 1:06:34
  is like following someone into like a danger, like danger
• 1:06:39
  space. But like, I mean, the sun is
• 1:06:41
  literally kill you like a kid, literally.
• 1:06:44
  So it's just like following someone into like the unknown,
• 1:06:49
  the like into the hardships, hopefully coming out unscathed,
• 1:06:55
  like, and I'm sure there's a whole lot of different like
• 1:06:57
  poetical things that we've missed.
• 1:06:59
  Probably just and also just being tired, but.
• 1:07:02
  Yeah, I mean too, because I'm looking at the chorus that I can
• 1:07:05
  hear like Gin singing too, which another thing I like the song.
• 1:07:07
  This is also one of the other songs aside from like Animals, I
• 1:07:10
  think really highlights his vocals that I enjoy.
• 1:07:13
  But like I guess which we talked about a little bit when we're
• 1:07:17
  talking about they don't know about us.
• 1:07:19
  The double edged sword of like the fandom and artist
• 1:07:22
  relationship where it says like you call and you know, I run
• 1:07:26
  dark days and find the sun and not caring how far.
• 1:07:29
  It's kind of like BTS reassuring no matter what, they'll be here
• 1:07:33
  for the fans. But like, at the same time, I
• 1:07:35
  guess what you were trying to say about the running into
• 1:07:38
  danger together, like I'm not sure you know.
• 1:07:41
  Running into something that essentially could hurt, could
• 1:07:43
  harm you. Yeah, it could.
• 1:07:45
  It could be a source of power where it could be a source of,
• 1:07:51
  like, ultimate good, or it could be a source of just like,
• 1:07:54
  demise. I mean, you know, the sun is
• 1:07:57
  both something that helps the life process, but it also could
• 1:08:02
  be, again, deadly. So yeah, I think there's a
• 1:08:05
  couple of things that could be taken from that.
• 1:08:07
  And then there's also like this, like, more literal sense of
• 1:08:10
  like, following, like, have you ever just, like, stared at the
• 1:08:13
  sun just on accident? Like, and you could become like,
• 1:08:16
  temporary blinded. There could be kind of like a
• 1:08:18
  metaphor there too, of like, blindly following someone no
• 1:08:22
  matter what. So I think there's probably a
• 1:08:24
  lot to unpack with that. And it's a shame that people
• 1:08:27
  were like wrote it off so early just because of a choice of how
• 1:08:32
  they wanted to present it. You know, I think you see and do
• 1:08:35
  all of these songs just to kind of bring it all together.
• 1:08:38
  You definitely see the influences that they're
• 1:08:41
  influenced by. You also see the experiences
• 1:08:45
  that they went through making their solo projects.
• 1:08:48
  I see a lot of Gin in this. I see a lot of Tang in this, a
• 1:08:52
  lot of Gemin, obviously, a lot of rap line jki think is the 1 I
• 1:08:56
  feel like. Not that I don't see the most in
• 1:08:58
  because again, he obviously has credits all throughout this, but
• 1:09:02
  I think much like we talked about how pop is like a
• 1:09:04
  universal genre, JK's project was very like universal kind of
• 1:09:08
  genre focus album, which I don't necessarily think that this
• 1:09:11
  album is heavy focused on pop as it was anything else.
• 1:09:15
  So I feel like JK definitely adds to it and I don't want
• 1:09:18
  anybody to get that wrong. I definitely see JK in this.
• 1:09:21
  I see all of them in this and their experiences, but I think
• 1:09:25
  it obviously comes out different ways in different songs.
• 1:09:29
  So yeah, I think there's solo work and the things that they've
• 1:09:32
  done in between the time has helped curate the sound that
• 1:09:35
  they have. And I'm very, and again, I'm
• 1:09:38
  just just slowly becoming my like legit my one of my favorite
• 1:09:41
  albums from BTS as a whole. And I, I hope that they continue
• 1:09:46
  to explore sounds and vibes and continue to collaborate with
• 1:09:53
  people who, you know, again, no matter what the backlash is of
• 1:09:57
  just like wanting to be more Western, like whatever.
• 1:10:00
  Like, Like, like music is obviously better when it is
• 1:10:03
  shared. And it's better when you are
• 1:10:05
  able to have collaborative efforts with people who also
• 1:10:07
  understand your intentions and your goals and what you aspire
• 1:10:13
  to. And to have like names on this
• 1:10:15
  album that like I recognize and a lot of people also recognize
• 1:10:19
  just right off RIP. It's like that's, that's a dream
• 1:10:22
  again for some people. And even though BTS is the
• 1:10:24
  biggest thing, you know, some sliced bread, I mean, they still
• 1:10:28
  have people they want to collaborate with and work with
• 1:10:30
  and, you know, be involved with when it comes to their music.
• 1:10:33
  And I don't think it, we should just shun that away just because
• 1:10:37
  they didn't have the like upper hand when it comes to being on
• 1:10:41
  the productive side. I mean, they very much are all
• 1:10:43
  through these credits and they're very much present.
• 1:10:47
  So it's OK to let artists and collaborate with other artists
• 1:10:52
  and have that effort together. And also just some, I guess,
• 1:10:57
  some final, final thoughts. I think that this has a very
• 1:11:00
  strong possibility of winning a Grammy this year.
• 1:11:04
  Well, this Grammy year, I don't want to put anything out there,
• 1:11:07
  but I would not be surprised if it did.
• 1:11:10
  And I won't be surprised if they put it up for nomination or
• 1:11:14
  consideration. Yeah, I think that it is a
• 1:11:18
  cohesive body of work. I think it is.
• 1:11:21
  It's not, I don't think it's necessarily like pushing any
• 1:11:24
  boundaries, but I think it is a really well done like return to
• 1:11:31
  or a return of BTS. I'm very proud of it.
• 1:11:34
  Like I'm very proud of to been able to get this project kind of
• 1:11:41
  as my first official comeback with the whole group.
• 1:11:43
  I'm glad this was it. I look forward to listening to
• 1:11:47
  all of this at the concert. And so I just hope that I hope
• 1:11:52
  that they are proud of the work they put out.
• 1:11:54
  I hope they don't feel like missing anything or like it
• 1:11:58
  needed more. I hope they're satisfied because
• 1:12:01
  they should be satisfied. I think the people who were
• 1:12:05
  apprehensive in the beginning where we're seeing less of them
• 1:12:08
  now because it's not popular, it's not the thing to talk about
• 1:12:12
  which it's done had its wave and now we're on the other thing.
• 1:12:16
  I think anybody who really wants just to have that full
• 1:12:21
  experience of enjoying things just needs to stop listening to
• 1:12:25
  other people. Which is ironic because we
• 1:12:27
  literally just sit here and talk for almost 4 hours about an
• 1:12:30
  album. But I'm probably definitely
• 1:12:32
  going to break this up into four parts just to be honest.
• 1:12:36
  Jesus, Lord would be me, right? No, I think you should
• 1:12:40
  absolutely form your own opinion.
• 1:12:41
  You should. And if and if that opinion is
• 1:12:43
  negative, it's negative. Like, yeah, I mean, again,
• 1:12:45
  there's, we've talked a lot about criticism and, you know, I
• 1:12:48
  don't think anything's above criticism, but in general, I am.
• 1:12:52
  I'm very excited to see what BTS does in the future.
• 1:12:56
  I'm very glad that this is the album they decided to put out.
• 1:12:58
  Even beyond all the controversy and all the shit that happened
• 1:13:01
  and came with it, it came at such a heavy cost, I think.
• 1:13:05
  But I do think that this album works very well and it, it does
• 1:13:10
  feel very BTS. It feels very authentic to who
• 1:13:14
  they are now. It nods to things from the past.
• 1:13:18
  It nods to the things that they did and their solo work.
• 1:13:21
  I don't know how much more BTS you want to get them that, you
• 1:13:26
  know what I mean? Like it is a combination of all
• 1:13:29
  of those things. It's not going to be the love
• 1:13:31
  yourself era. It's not going to be wings.
• 1:13:34
  It's not going to be danger. It's not dangerous, cousin.
• 1:13:36
  It's just it is odded on on its own and I think it's enough.
• 1:13:41
  Like I generally do think that that's that's good enough for if
• 1:13:44
  it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me.
• 1:13:46
  You know, that's how I feel about it.
• 1:13:48
  I think pretty, pretty satisfied with most of the collaborations
• 1:13:53
  and most of the producer work on it.
• 1:13:57
  Yeah, like I said, I'm looking forward to seeing this will be
• 1:14:00
  fledged out on the big old Allegiance Stadium stage.
• 1:14:05
  Yes, I hope they're proud of it either.
• 1:14:08
  It does seem like they're proud of it and it's just also goes
• 1:14:11
  into. I think this album was really
• 1:14:13
  needed because I mean, even I was like that too of just
• 1:14:16
  curious and wondering what they're going to do and then
• 1:14:19
  like for the whole tour. I don't know.
• 1:14:21
  I guess I also wasn't expecting them, which I don't know why I
• 1:14:25
  like. I knew they were going to put
• 1:14:26
  something out when they came out, but I guess in my mind, and
• 1:14:29
  maybe I was still focusing on like the K Pop side of it.
• 1:14:32
  I just thought they're maybe going to do like a mini album
• 1:14:35
  and then tour. And then I guess I'm long what
• 1:14:38
  other people's were expecting to, yes, kind of do like the Air
• 1:14:42
  an Errors tour of sorts. Even on this podcast, I know
• 1:14:46
  I've talked about songs I would like to hear them perform.
• 1:14:49
  So it's like, yes, I've also missed some, but like, am I
• 1:14:52
  going to be chastising them because they're not performing
• 1:14:56
  them anymore or performing them like they used to?
• 1:14:59
  No, because I'm growing along with BTS.
• 1:15:02
  So it's like I'm very happy with this album too.
• 1:15:06
  I thank them a lot for also expanding my musicality just in
• 1:15:10
  general because I was never really a person into music like
• 1:15:13
  that till I really got into them.
• 1:15:16
  And then I opened me up to like be more open to other artists as
• 1:15:20
  well, not just in K Ball, but I just mean musical artists in
• 1:15:23
  general. So yeah, I mean, I really
• 1:15:26
  enjoyed this +2. I think this was really needed
• 1:15:30
  to show people that they are moving forward as a group.
• 1:15:33
  We talk about, we want them around for a long time.
• 1:15:36
  We joke about it. They joke about it like if you
• 1:15:39
  truly want them to pass the K pop expiration date, which
• 1:15:44
  they've already have, you're going to really need to let them
• 1:15:47
  grow as artists and show different sides of them.
• 1:15:50
  And this is what they're showing.
• 1:15:51
  This is not only BTS 2.0, but this is showing BTS getting
• 1:15:55
  older. Like they're not in their 20s
• 1:15:58
  anymore. They're in their 30s.
• 1:16:00
  And sometimes when people say that, they kind of think you're
• 1:16:03
  like trying to be Aegis and getting older, which I'm not.
• 1:16:07
  But it's also just being realistic of like, you know, you
• 1:16:11
  get older, that's just the human experience.
• 1:16:13
  Don't you want them to grow? You don't want them to be like
• 1:16:16
  some artists who are stuck rapping or singing about the
• 1:16:19
  things that they talked about in like high school and in the
• 1:16:22
  early 20s. Like we stated earlier, that
• 1:16:25
  gets boring. That's no growth with the
• 1:16:28
  artists attending them as well. So I'd rather grow with BTS and
• 1:16:33
  put them in a box to stay stagnant.
• 1:16:37
  I feel like I had more to say, but I can't tell if I'm losing
• 1:16:40
  my train of thought from tiredness or not.
• 1:16:41
  Did I have more to say? Alright.
• 1:16:43
  You could probably make NNN post you can think.
• 1:16:46
  About it, yeah, I'm, I'm not doing any of that unless it's
• 1:16:49
  the intro and outro. But anyway, yes, I'm just very
• 1:16:52
  happy to go with BTS and to see not only with what happens with
• 1:16:57
  the Idong tour, but then even beyond that.
• 1:17:00
  So I'm ready. I mean, also bring on the band
• 1:17:03
  that you keep promising us when they're in there, you know, 60s
• 1:17:07
  and 70s. I also learned through the Zane
• 1:17:09
  Lowe interview, because I know in the recording that it's never
• 1:17:13
  going to see the light of day. We talked about, like
• 1:17:15
  instruments they can play. Apparently Hobie has been
• 1:17:17
  getting into the drums. Hell, he's been taking drum
• 1:17:20
  lessons. Well, we got 2 drummers out
• 1:17:22
  there possibly. So yes, we got our drummer, we
• 1:17:24
  got our saxophonist, we got a guitarist.
• 1:17:29
  Jen can do the bass. I think he'd be a great bass
• 1:17:32
  player. I remember what Jimin can do.
• 1:17:35
  What did we say Jimin can do? There's.
• 1:17:36
  A little guitar. Till 2 guitars.
• 1:17:39
  Think and then he also. Yungi and Jimin do guitar.
• 1:17:44
  Yeah. But Yugi plays all sorts of
• 1:17:46
  instruments, so he can choose whatever.
• 1:17:48
  Yeah, I don't know who we would give Tay or JK.
• 1:17:51
  Tay can do the violin, JK could just sing.
• 1:17:53
  That works. There you go.
• 1:17:57
  We got it guys. We we got, we got it.
• 1:18:00
  Well, yes, so that will go ahead and end our review of the
• 1:18:04
  Ariadong album and we hope you guys enjoyed our in depth
• 1:18:10
  struggling of trying to get this done, but we did it.
• 1:18:14
  We did. It we did it, Shay, it only
• 1:18:15
  took. Five hours.
• 1:18:21
  I also, we're not going to talk about the song, but I also do
• 1:18:24
  just want to mention there's a deluxe version that's out on
• 1:18:26
  vinyl and we ended up getting a hit a hidden track all produced
• 1:18:30
  by Sugar and it's called Come Over.
• 1:18:33
  So I'm sure you can find it somewhere.
• 1:18:36
  I hope they do release it on streaming because it seems like
• 1:18:39
  they wanted to be released on streaming.
• 1:18:41
  Not sure why it became a hitting track, but yeah, it's called
• 1:18:43
  Come Over. Didn't make the album, but they
• 1:18:46
  added in the deluxe final. I don't know why they didn't add
• 1:18:49
  it in the regular CD because they put hidden tracks in the
• 1:18:53
  regular CD's before. Marketing scheme to be very
• 1:18:59
  honest. But yes, we are just ready to
• 1:19:02
  grow with BTSI. Can't wait to see them in Tampa.
• 1:19:04
  I'm sure by the time this comes out, I would have already seen
• 1:19:08
  them in Tampa or I might be in Tampa seeing them.
• 1:19:11
  So don't worry, we will come back and talk about our concert
• 1:19:16
  experiences. Shay, if you want to come back,
• 1:19:18
  you're more than welcome to since you and Lala are seeing
• 1:19:21
  them in Vegas. If you want to talk about seeing
• 1:19:22
  them in Vegas and on your birthday and you can tell us
• 1:19:25
  about the set list too, since you didn't see it beforehand
• 1:19:28
  with Korea. Yeah, we can definitely schedule
• 1:19:30
  that. We can.
• 1:19:31
  So yes, thank you for listening to this episode.
• 1:19:36
  You can find us on social media at I Was Thinking Pod.
• 1:19:39
  You can e-mail us at iwasthinkingpod@gmail.com.
• 1:19:44
  Any comments? I know on Spotify you can
• 1:19:46
  comment on episodes directly. Let us know how you feel about
• 1:19:49
  the album review that we just did.
• 1:19:53
  We would appreciate any rating, specifically the highest ones to
• 1:19:57
  like, you know, get us some push, get us some lessons, share
• 1:20:00
  with other armies so we can all talk about and think about the
• 1:20:04
  album. And like, you know, if there's
• 1:20:06
  things you wanted to talk about, hopefully we've highlighted them
• 1:20:09
  or you can let us know some things we may have missed as
• 1:20:12
  well. But I have been your host,
• 1:20:14
  Simone, and that has been. My lovely guest Shay, who I
• 1:20:18
  think tremendously staying up with me this late.
• 1:20:21
  I'm, I'm telling you guys, it's literally almost 1:00 AM.
• 1:20:24
  Like that's how late we are recording right now.
• 1:20:27
  And it's all for you all. Yes, it's all for you guys.
• 1:20:30
  So yes, I just thank her immensely for recording this
• 1:20:33
  with me. So you will hear her voice
• 1:20:35
  again. Don't worry, she'll be back.
• 1:20:38
  And yeah, that's been our show. So see you guys next time.
• 1:20:43
  Bye.