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- 1:30SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and jump into our first subject of the week, which is going to be obviously Triple J's injury.
- 1:35SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: Jerry Jackson Jr.
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: has torn his MCL in his right knee and is expected to miss up to six to eight weeks.
- 1:42SPEAKER_00: Uh the injury occurred Monday, October 22nd, so 26th, against the Memphis Grizzlies.
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: Uh, when the Memphis Grizzlies guard Ty Jerome fell onto uh Jackson's planted leg, forcing him his knee to be bent awkwardly.
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: The Jazz did confirm uh that he will be re-evaluated in six weeks.
- 2:01SPEAKER_00: The injury it will reportedly not require surgery uh before before going down.
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: Uh Jackson was averaging 16.3 points per game, five rebounds um early on in this season, AJ.
- 2:15SPEAKER_01: He I'm kind of surprised at 16 points because it doesn't feel like he's had that that much of an impact.
- 2:20SPEAKER_01: Like you know he does because he's Jaron Jackson Jr., but he doesn't like it.
- 2:26SPEAKER_01: What do you think?
- 2:27SPEAKER_01: Because it seemed like 16 points a game for him in the four that he's played.
- 2:31SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, if you think about it, each time the Jets have had a game where they've you know performed decently, they've had like four or five players in double figures.
- 2:41SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 2:41SPEAKER_00: So when you see, you know, Keontae George hitting 30, when you're seeing, you know, yeah, Laurie with 26, you know, doesn't make sense.
- 2:49SPEAKER_00: Somebody averaging 17 to 20 points a game really just kind of doesn't move the needle, so they're kind of an afterthought, but you know, you love that consistency from a guy.
- 2:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is, and it is, and it's been good, it's been good to have him out there.
- 3:00SPEAKER_01: He has helped on you know on the defense.
- 3:01SPEAKER_01: It's it's it's always nice to see him back on the floor because he does provide that three-point threat that you know we talked about all offseason was you know the ability to have five guys on the floor that can shoot it at a time.
- 3:10SPEAKER_01: Triple J does that.
- 3:12SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, his defensive presence definitely helps this team be better in a lot of these scenarios.
- 3:17SPEAKER_01: Um you know, if we could get a little bit of rebounding out of him, this team could be taking strides towards um, you know, having something special.
- 3:25SPEAKER_01: Um but I'm I'm kind of curious, like, you know, who we thought was gonna pick the slack up.
- 3:30SPEAKER_01: That was kind of what we brought this whole thing up.
- 3:32SPEAKER_01: And you know, there's been a couple of couple of guys that have played some nice minutes so far.
- 3:36SPEAKER_01: Um and I kind of think that you start to see what the Jazz have done with adding Ace.
- 3:40SPEAKER_01: You know, like that was kind of the question was like, was Ace gonna be in the starting lineup, was he not?
- 3:45SPEAKER_01: Um and now that he's been in the starting lineup, the one game that he was in the starting lineup with Triple J, uh, and you know, you have Triple J roll into the five, and Ace is kind of a two or a three-four kind of guy, him and Lari kind of split that.
- 3:58SPEAKER_01: Um it's been really interesting to to have that combination.
- 4:03SPEAKER_01: The energy that Ace has brought has been really, really good.
- 4:05SPEAKER_01: So I don't think anybody that's a jazz fan is gonna have you know any heartburn about playing ace a ton more minutes, you know, without Triple J in there.
- 4:13SPEAKER_01: Um but you kind of worry about who's gonna take that five those those minutes from that five position.
- 4:18SPEAKER_01: Um I actually and and Jackson Hayes is I think he's day-to-day right now.
- 4:24SPEAKER_01: I don't know if he's in this game.
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: I haven't seen enough of it yet.
- 4:27SPEAKER_00: But um side note, why doesn't SEG put the stats on the screen?
- 4:31SPEAKER_01: I do not know.
- 4:32SPEAKER_01: That's a great question.
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: Do I really need to see the chat?
- 4:34SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
- 4:35SPEAKER_00: I need to see our chat, but I don't need to see that chat.
- 4:38SPEAKER_01: But I would love to see the stats of the players that are out there.
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's I guess I'm just getting selfish when it comes to like MLB, TV.
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: You are, you know, you are, yeah.
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: So when you're watching those, it kind of just gives you the stats for everybody.
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, it's kind of nice.
- 4:51SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah.
- 4:51SPEAKER_00: So anyway, but yeah, sorry, sorry for my character.
- 4:54SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I mean, I like I like Jackson Hayes.
- 4:56SPEAKER_01: Um, I I really he's played with a ton of energy while he's out there.
- 4:59SPEAKER_01: Hopefully he is back healthy.
- 5:00SPEAKER_01: I know that the jazz had posted him on social media, so you'd kind of assume he is going to be out there tonight.
- 5:06SPEAKER_01: Um, I saw some of that in the the social media gram this this morning.
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: Social media gram.
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: The insta fears.
- 5:13SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the insta tweets.
- 5:14SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, Hayes Hayes has been good, man.
- 5:17SPEAKER_01: Lots of energy.
- 5:17SPEAKER_01: I like the the Rudy Gobert type rim pressure that he's kind of applied because he's just always that lob threat that's that's kind of there.
- 5:24SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, played played good defensively, and and he's actually done a really good job rebounding.
- 5:30SPEAKER_01: So I've I've really liked the the Jackson Hayes minutes um when he's been out there.
- 5:34SPEAKER_01: I think I think kind of a worst case scenario would be Kyle Philippowski taking some of those minutes.
- 5:39SPEAKER_01: Um not that I'm not that I'm given up on the Kyle Philippowski the Kyle Philippowski experiment.
- 5:46SPEAKER_01: Try and say that a couple times, but he just he's just been bad while he's out there.
- 5:51SPEAKER_01: I I just every time he's out there, I'm just like, why why is he still there?
- 5:55SPEAKER_01: Um so I'm not I'm not really sure how he fits in with kind of the the ace D P key lineup.
- 6:01SPEAKER_01: I don't like Philipowski, but I think Jackson Hayes has done a really good job just rim running and playing with energy and kind of keeping those guys kind of going.
- 6:09SPEAKER_01: We did see Mo Bamba out there a couple nights ago.
- 6:12SPEAKER_01: Um and his playing time hasn't looked bad.
- 6:15SPEAKER_01: I mean, what what are your thoughts on on Bamba?
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I I think he's the one making the most out of this situation, to be honest with you.
- 6:21SPEAKER_00: I mean, some of the stats you're seeing on some of the I mean, what was his what was his line the other night?
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: And he's actually on the floor right now, he's on the floor right now.
- 6:27SPEAKER_00: He had in crucial third quarter minutes here.
- 6:29SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: And of course we turned the ball over.
- 6:32SPEAKER_01: That was a push.
- 6:33SPEAKER_01: Offensive foul.
- 6:34SPEAKER_01: Boom.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: Nice, nice way to sell it.
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: Way to sell it.
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: You need that.
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: Way to sell that DP.
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
- 6:40SPEAKER_01: That was actually Isaiah.
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: Oh, that was Isaiah?
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm glad to see he's doing something right on the floor.
- 6:45SPEAKER_01: Oh, he he did sell it for sure.
- 6:47SPEAKER_01: He did sell.
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: Anyways.
- 6:50SPEAKER_00: Anyway, but yeah, I really think his line last week was, I mean, earlier this week was something like 18 points, seven rebounds, four blocks.
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: Like the guy was making the most of the minutes in that game that uh Triple J went down.
- 7:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 7:03SPEAKER_00: You know, and you love to see that because again, now he probably felt like he was just like a depth piece that may be in there for some garbage time.
- 7:09SPEAKER_00: But now we're gonna really need him, man.
- 7:11SPEAKER_00: We're gonna really need some minutes out of Mo, you know, to really kind of stretch out that that five spot.
- 7:16SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 7:16SPEAKER_00: You know, I'll be shocked, honestly, AJ, uh, if he's back in eight weeks from a torn MCL.
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: I think that's just a gross exaggeration of how fast he's gonna get back.
- 7:25SPEAKER_00: I don't see that happening.
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: What really keeps me uh, you know, and this really makes me not, you know, this is gonna really make that whole Walker Kessler not being a re-signed thing hurt a little bit more, right?
- 7:36SPEAKER_00: I mean, Nurk is already out, right, for his injury.
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: Rebounding is already a concern for this team uh before we even lost Triple J because he's not known as a rebounding threat.
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: But him not being there, that definitely hits the defense and our shooting.
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: I mean, Jackson Hayes will be likely to start, and Obama is gonna show um some times there, definitely showing he's deserving those minutes with how he's been playing so far this year, which is actually a great surprise, right?
- 8:00SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's why he didn't play so much last year, is because we didn't actually want any production out of that role.
- 8:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, absolutely.
- 8:05SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's a great point.
- 8:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Flip might see some ad minutes as well.
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: We need to see, in my opinion, man, we need to make a move.
- 8:13SPEAKER_00: This is that's what this means to me.
- 8:15SPEAKER_00: We need to make a move.
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: Um, if we want to compete for a playoff spot and not just hope for a you know play-in bid, this we've got to make a move somewhere here.
- 8:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 8:25SPEAKER_00: We trade away some of our draft capital or get some depth at center, because obviously Triple J is not gonna be back in eight weeks.
- 8:31SPEAKER_00: He's just not.
- 8:32SPEAKER_00: That's just not how that injury works.
- 8:33SPEAKER_01: So, what about Tony Bradley?
- 8:35SPEAKER_01: I mean, he was uh and and I I can hear where you're about to go with this, just based on your face.
- 8:42SPEAKER_01: But Tony Bradley was a serviceable backup center for other teams in the NBA.
- 8:46SPEAKER_01: That's the reason they picked him up.
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: Key word there.
- 8:49SPEAKER_01: Backup center.
- 8:50SPEAKER_01: He but but that's what he that's what he's there for, right?
- 8:53SPEAKER_01: You went out and you got a backup center to to to eat up some of these minutes.
- 8:57SPEAKER_01: How long has Nurk got down?
- 8:59SPEAKER_01: I think Nurk's back in like four or five weeks.
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: All I'm saying, man, is if if this Well actually, sorry, it was originally four to five weeks.
- 9:06SPEAKER_01: I think it's been three.
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: He might be reevaluated next week.
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: That might change things.
- 9:10SPEAKER_00: But in my opinion, if you want to what we're seeing here from this team is with this injury, we're gonna see real quick how serious they're taking competing this year.
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 9:19SPEAKER_00: And I think this is a nice key indicator for us on that.
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- 9:28SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and jump into the chat and see some of these conversations.
- 9:30SPEAKER_00: See this conversation.
- 9:31SPEAKER_01: Stuff going on over there.
- 9:32SPEAKER_00: McKinley.
- 9:33SPEAKER_00: McKinley, friend of the channel.
- 9:35SPEAKER_00: Can someone please turn off the injuries for the rest of the year?
- 9:38SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 9:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
- 9:38SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's been ridiculous, dude.
- 9:40SPEAKER_00: Not only with the job.
- 9:40SPEAKER_01: There's a switch, flip it.
- 9:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because we don't need it.
- 9:43SPEAKER_00: Not just with the jazz, dude.
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: Like already, like Ant's down.
- 9:46SPEAKER_00: Like he's gonna be missing some time there.
- 9:49SPEAKER_00: So good luck, the Tibber Worlds.
- 9:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a lot of injuries across the league already.
- 9:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, who else went down just recently?
- 9:55SPEAKER_01: Somebody went down for the rest of the year.
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: Tyree Taliburton's out with a strained ACL.
- 10:00SPEAKER_01: Is he really?
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: Our hamstring, I think the one that he tore is strained now.
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: He's out for a couple weeks.
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, dude, there's just so much of it floating around.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: Um gosh, I'm missing a key one here.
- 10:10SPEAKER_01: Didn't this feel like a long offseason?
- 10:12SPEAKER_01: Like I know it was a standard length off season, but didn't this one feel a little bit longer to you?
- 10:16SPEAKER_00: Yes, AJ.
- 10:17SPEAKER_00: That's because when the when the opening night tipped, that's when our offseason started for this team last year.
- 10:21SPEAKER_00: So that's true.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: And Larry's day-to-day on the bench.
- 10:25SPEAKER_00: That's true, yeah.
- 10:26SPEAKER_00: Looking good in his street close.
- 10:28SPEAKER_00: You know, definitely not something we want to see.
- 10:29SPEAKER_00: But that's a that's a bad place for Larry.
- 10:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 10:32SPEAKER_01: Hey, but we're hanging with the with the previous Western Company Western Conference.
- 10:37SPEAKER_01: I can talk great tonight.
- 10:38SPEAKER_01: Western conference champions.
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: So nice.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: Nice.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: We got another comment here from uh Aaron.
- 10:43SPEAKER_00: It's this early in the season, everyone has great points per games, but can they keep it?
- 10:47SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: That's why I made sure I said early season.
- 10:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you gotta qualify.
- 10:52SPEAKER_00: You gotta qualify that one there, Aaron, because believe it or not, in the chat, you guys are always chill.
- 10:56SPEAKER_00: In the comments, they will roast you for something like that.
- 10:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah, chat's chill, comments not so much.
- 11:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
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- 11:10SPEAKER_01: We we always get torched and we don't ever like back down.
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: No, no.
- 11:14SPEAKER_00: We love we I mean, you know, if you're gonna be if you're gonna come ask mean spirited, yeah.
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- 11:19SPEAKER_00: But yeah, even if you call us idiots and we know it's at a joking matter, we'll take it.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, you know?
- 11:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: We don't care.
- 11:25SPEAKER_01: We're we're aware we're putting videos on the internet for people to criticize.
- 11:29SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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- 11:30SPEAKER_00: And that's apparently.
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: We've been doing it for a while.
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and apparently that's all people want to do on the internet.
- 11:34SPEAKER_00: They don't want to better themselves or yeah, enjoy uh common discourse with other fans, you know, yeah, the same teams that there are, but here we are.
- 11:42SPEAKER_00: Um, on the plus side, DP at Ace are getting more uh usage and will be fun.
- 11:47SPEAKER_00: Uh yes, and you know that's something I actually look forward to that because there is a silver lining, that's definitely it.
- 11:53SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
- 11:54SPEAKER_00: Well, I again it's definitely something we're gonna bring up on uh future episode.
- 11:58SPEAKER_00: Probably next week, we're gonna talk about it a little bit more in depth because we want to give uh a few games to see um how they handle this whole injury thing.
- 12:05SPEAKER_00: Dude, I just love I love it, dude.
- 12:08SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, honestly, with Isaiah, there's sorry, just an alley oop play there.
- 12:12SPEAKER_00: Uh with all the flaws that Isaiah has, and honestly, I don't think he has a spot on this team when we're competing for a championship, uh, other than probably deep bench depth at the guard spot.
- 12:22SPEAKER_00: You gotta love some of the plays that he runs and some of the energy that you can do.
- 12:25SPEAKER_01: Then they do then they do that.
- 12:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, you know, three passes, throw it away.
- 12:28SPEAKER_00: Three passes when they actually decide to move the ball around, they give it away.
- 12:32SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 12:32SPEAKER_00: Uh, we also have another comment here from McKinley saying I want to give uh Flip a few months and still still recovering from his back.
- 12:38SPEAKER_00: Ooh, fair point, McKinley.
- 12:40SPEAKER_00: Good, good catch there.
- 12:42SPEAKER_00: I forgot about that.
- 12:43SPEAKER_00: He had off season back surgery.
- 12:47SPEAKER_00: So, okay, he'll get he'll get like AJ's not bought.
- 12:50SPEAKER_00: AJ's not sold on that one.
- 12:52SPEAKER_01: I think some of my problem was the way he played last year before his back surgery.
- 12:55SPEAKER_01: Maybe he was hurt then.
- 12:56SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 12:56SPEAKER_01: I I'm not giving up on the flip experiment for sure.
- 12:59SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll see.
- 13:00SPEAKER_00: We'll see what happens there.
- 13:01SPEAKER_00: Uh, we got uh comment from Greg Hawkins jumping a few subjects early here.
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: Uh the Brewers are gonna win the win the World Series, bro.
- 13:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, they are.
- 13:10SPEAKER_00: Um stay tuned for that one, man.
- 13:11SPEAKER_00: We got a we got a good uh discourse to jump in with you on that one for sure.
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: Uh Taylor, uh sorry, McKinley Cutler McKinley says here, J Dub.
- 13:20SPEAKER_00: Thank you, J Dub and Taylor Hendrix uh injury.
- 13:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh sorry, J Dub got the Taylor Hendrix injury.
- 13:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah, did you hear about that?
- 13:27SPEAKER_00: Jalen Williams?
- 13:28SPEAKER_01: Uh-uh.
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: Yeah, ooh, it's pretty bad.
- 13:30SPEAKER_00: Oh, oh, that's gross.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: Yeah, kind of a Gordon Hayward-esque where your foot's going this way.
- 13:35SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, that's that's terrible.
- 13:37SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's uh pretty good, pretty good.
- 13:40SPEAKER_00: Um, I like this one here.
- 13:41SPEAKER_00: These pla uh these players need nicknames so AJ could pronounce them correctly.
- 13:45SPEAKER_01: We appreciate it.
- 13:45SPEAKER_01: And it's funny because his nickname's flip.
- 13:47SPEAKER_01: But I I chose to go Kyle Philipowski.
- 13:51SPEAKER_01: Kyle Philipowski experiment, even.
- 13:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just throw in a bunch of letters that are really unneeded.
- 13:57SPEAKER_00: Just throw as many you know syllables in that syllabus you can there.
- 14:00SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 14:01SPEAKER_00: Um, love this one.
- 14:02SPEAKER_00: Haters gonna hate.
- 14:03SPEAKER_00: Exactly, exactly, Aaron.
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: That's for sure.
- 14:05SPEAKER_00: Thanks, buddy.
- 14:06SPEAKER_00: At least you know, at least you get it, man.
- 14:07SPEAKER_00: You get us.
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: We appreciate it.
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: You get us.
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: You we appreciate that.
- 14:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 14:11SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 14:12SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, man.
- 14:13SPEAKER_00: So the injury sucks.
- 14:14SPEAKER_00: We'll see what happens.
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: Uh, we'll have a follow-up on this one next week, uh, because we figure it's a good time to discuss some stuff and see how this one goes.
- 14:22SPEAKER_00: Ooh.
- 14:23SPEAKER_00: That one's a that's a nice little bump there.
- 14:26SPEAKER_00: Um, all right, so let's go ahead and jump into our next subject.
- 14:29SPEAKER_00: We want to talk about um, you know, as far as you know what so far this season, right?
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: It's early.
- 14:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, three, four games in.
- 14:37SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: We're really early, early.
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: We want to talk about stands out, standouts so far, right?
- 14:42SPEAKER_00: So it's really early in the season.
- 14:43SPEAKER_00: We want to talk about the people that we feel so far over the first what, four or five games.
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: What is this?
- 14:48SPEAKER_00: Game five, six.
- 14:49SPEAKER_01: This is game five, yep.
- 14:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we want to talk about who we feel has stood out so far and give it us more of an optimistic approach.
- 14:56SPEAKER_00: Because obviously, doom and gloom right now.
- 14:57SPEAKER_00: I mean, we have people who are saying, hey, you know, there's not gonna be a whole lot of wins for this team after this injury and how well the team's performing.
- 15:04SPEAKER_00: We want to spit it and get a little bit more optimistic.
- 15:06SPEAKER_00: So let's talk, let's focus a little bit on who we've seen so far that stood out.
- 15:10SPEAKER_00: Why don't you go ahead and kick us off there, AJ?
- 15:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I think the player that I've seen the minutes that I've loved so far the most has probably been Josh Green.
- 15:17SPEAKER_01: Um, he, you know, we we were we were lucky enough to be at the jazz game on Sunday, and you know, Green was out there against Luca, and uh it was as soon as Green was on the floor, Luca didn't do anything.
- 15:32SPEAKER_01: No, I mean Josh Green was all over him like a wet blanket.
- 15:36SPEAKER_01: There was nothing that he could do.
- 15:38SPEAKER_01: I mean, as soon as he touched the ball, he's just draping him.
- 15:40SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's defending his shots, he stayed straight up and down, he wasn't drawing fouls, like doing as good of a job as you can possibly do on Luka Donkich, who gets the whistle called for even looking the wrong direction near him.
- 15:53SPEAKER_01: Um, I just I I love the defensive effort.
- 15:57SPEAKER_01: Um, he has been he has been really, really good at just bringing coming in and bringing a ton of energy, like defensive energy.
- 16:06SPEAKER_01: Like when he's out there, you're just like this is what these guys need.
- 16:10SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 16:11SPEAKER_01: Like they need somebody to come out there and want to play defense.
- 16:13SPEAKER_01: I think it's something that the jazz kind of miss.
- 16:15SPEAKER_01: Like we had the Rudy Gobert years, and Rudy Gobert prided himself so much in defense, it was contagious, right?
- 16:21SPEAKER_01: The other players wanted to play defense, it was a great defensive team, and yes, that was a lot because of Rudy Gobert, but you had a team that was was focused and they they took so much pride in it.
- 16:30SPEAKER_01: The Jazz needs somebody like that.
- 16:33SPEAKER_01: Um, it's just it's really surprising to me that we're seeing more minutes out of Josh or Kogi than Josh Green.
- 16:39SPEAKER_01: I like the Josh Green effort better than I've seen a Kogey.
- 16:42SPEAKER_01: Um, if there was if there was any knock on Green's game, I would just say I think he needs to shoot the ball.
- 16:47SPEAKER_01: Uh, there was a couple passes that you know we were watching where I'm just like, why didn't you shoot that?
- 16:52SPEAKER_01: You were wide open and he's trying to make an extra pass.
- 16:54SPEAKER_01: I think he's I think he's trying his best to stay within the scheme rather than just kind of playing basketball, you know, just right trying to continuously earn those minutes.
- 17:02SPEAKER_01: Like he doesn't want to go out there and take Aaron shots and you know, before you know a coach is like, Well, why why did you shoot that?
- 17:07SPEAKER_01: You know, like that that we were trying to get the ball passed three times or whatever.
- 17:10SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 17:11SPEAKER_01: Um, so I'd I'd like to see, you know, him shoot the ball because this dude is a career 38% three-point shooter.
- 17:17SPEAKER_01: You know, he's not like a Kogie where a Kogie's like a career 33% shooter, you know, had a great season last year, thought like shot like 38%.
- 17:24SPEAKER_01: But um, so yeah, I I I really like Josh Green.
- 17:28SPEAKER_01: Uh he's just I I you can see with his effort that he's just trying to get a spot in that rotation and be one of those guys that comes off the bench pretty early.
- 17:36SPEAKER_01: So uh loved his effort so far, man.
- 17:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I have to agree with you, man.
- 17:40SPEAKER_00: I've loved his effort.
- 17:41SPEAKER_00: Really kind of makes you question why he wasn't in that game sooner.
- 17:44SPEAKER_01: And longer.
- 17:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 17:46SPEAKER_01: And longer, because as soon as they pulled him out, um Luka Dunkic beat us.
- 17:51SPEAKER_00: Luke was Luke was on on pace for like a 55-point game that night.
- 17:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's the thing is Green came in and shut him down for four or five minutes, and then they pulled him out and Luka just went off again.
- 18:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I don't really know what the, you know, again, more to come on that later.
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: Uh definitely something we're gonna talk about when we revisit the whole argument of the jazz being able to kind of break out of this losing culture that they've been in the last couple of years.
- 18:16SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be a good one.
- 18:16SPEAKER_00: Make sure you guys tune in.
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: That one's definitely a good example of that.
- 18:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 18:19SPEAKER_00: Side note, man, I've got, I have to say here, I really love the fact that I got a taste of my own medicine in that at that game.
- 18:26SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 18:26SPEAKER_00: Because being a Dodgers fan, Dodgers fans travel everywhere in any baseball stadium.
- 18:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 18:31SPEAKER_00: To be in the Jazz home arena as a jazz fan and just hear more cheers for the Lakers when they hit a shot than when the Jazz hit a shot.
- 18:41SPEAKER_00: It was really frustrating.
- 18:43SPEAKER_00: It was so annoying.
- 18:44SPEAKER_00: I mean, I understand LA people.
- 18:47SPEAKER_00: You could not hack it in your own hometown, so you had to move it to somewhere else where it was cheaper to live.
- 18:53SPEAKER_00: We we get that, we understand that.
- 18:56SPEAKER_00: But leave your ass at home.
- 18:58SPEAKER_00: Yeah, don't come to the game.
- 18:59SPEAKER_00: Don't come to the jazz game.
- 19:00SPEAKER_01: This is a jazz game.
- 19:00SPEAKER_01: It's a jazz game.
- 19:01SPEAKER_01: This is a Lakers game.
- 19:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 19:03SPEAKER_00: You want to you want to go cheer on the jazz, go to Colorado.
- 19:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 19:05SPEAKER_00: And go to the Denver game and cheer for the Lakers there.
- 19:08SPEAKER_00: You know, this is your new home.
- 19:10SPEAKER_00: Sport your new team here in your new home.
- 19:12SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 19:12SPEAKER_00: Just saying.
- 19:13SPEAKER_00: A little frustrating.
- 19:14SPEAKER_01: Get it, Darren.
- 19:15unknown: Get him.
- 19:16SPEAKER_00: Get him.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: Love it.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
- 19:18SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 19:18SPEAKER_00: So back to my standout, right?
- 19:20SPEAKER_00: Now, um, while I'll have to say I think uh Keontae George has shown already this um not that the last year was no fluke for this for this kid.
- 19:28SPEAKER_00: Uh he got the bag and he's showing it right now that he plans on earning it right out of the gate.
- 19:33SPEAKER_00: Um we'll he'll we'll probably do a whole segment on him in the future, but for now, uh for this segment, I want to focus on Ace Bailey.
- 19:40SPEAKER_00: Uh it is early.
- 19:41SPEAKER_00: Um, so again, to your point there, Aaron, um we talked about earlier the points per game.
- 19:46SPEAKER_00: That was Aaron, right?
- 19:47SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 19:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Aaron, we talked about that earlier.
- 19:50SPEAKER_00: Um to your point, it is early, but I wanted to point out a few things.
- 19:54SPEAKER_00: His average, um, he's got his averaging the same amount of minutes per game this year that he did last year, right?
- 20:00SPEAKER_00: He has the same amount of minutes per game, yet he has more than doubled his rebounds and blocks per game, and almost doubled his assists per game.
- 20:08SPEAKER_00: And across the board, all the shootings percentages have shown increased efficiency for this kid.
- 20:14SPEAKER_00: Um, not to mention, again, like I said, double the rebounds and double the blocks.
- 20:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:19SPEAKER_00: So we were talking about all offseason long where the board's gonna come from uh if Walker Kessler doesn't resign for this team.
- 20:26SPEAKER_01: Apparently it's Keontae George.
- 20:28SPEAKER_00: No, it's Ace Bailey.
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: Oh, sorry, Ace Bailey, yeah.
- 20:30SPEAKER_01: We're talking about Ace Bailey.
- 20:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sorry.
- 20:34SPEAKER_01: I was I was listening to Keontae and I was thinking, like all the things you just said, I was like, has Keontae doubled all of his stats?
- 20:41SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I don't think that's in your defense.
- 20:44SPEAKER_00: I did originally start by talking Keontae George.
- 20:47SPEAKER_00: That basically just means as soon as I start talk start talking, you stop listening.
- 20:50SPEAKER_00: So that's basically the conversation that we that's the confirmation we just got right there.
- 20:53SPEAKER_01: You know what?
- 20:54SPEAKER_01: It wouldn't be the first time I've been I've heard that at all.
- 20:58SPEAKER_01: So I'm not a good man.
- 20:59SPEAKER_00: I'm not a good time I've said it, so you know that's a little insight to Adrian's soul there.
- 21:04SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, no, I again to this man, the the fact that we're seeing what we're seeing from this kid, and I tell you, man, after watching the first game and being there live, Ace Bailey looks like the most talented athlete on the court whenever he's out there.
- 21:17SPEAKER_01: Every single minute.
- 21:18SPEAKER_00: And it's insane to see how well this kid's just taking on this new role that he has and accepting it as the sixth man and need to produce.
- 21:24SPEAKER_00: But he's starting, he's starting more games than he's than he's not.
- 21:27SPEAKER_01: But also I think that I think that he I think that he took a little bit of offense to that not starting the season.
- 21:33SPEAKER_01: Like even when everybody was, you know, quote unquote healthy, right?
- 21:36SPEAKER_01: And and right before Nurk and whatever, the the fact that the Jazz ran out somebody that wasn't Ace Bailey on opening night, I think he took, and I think we needed him to take that personally, right?
- 21:46SPEAKER_01: We needed him to go out there and just show that like there's a reason you're here, there's a reason you're a number five pick.
- 21:53SPEAKER_01: There's a reason that the fans love you, it's because you play with a ton of energy, it's because you're that guy can go out there and and be the Freak athlete on the floor that can just do everything.
- 22:02SPEAKER_01: We needed to see that Ace Bailey.
- 22:05SPEAKER_01: And now that we've seen it, it's been so much fun to watch.
- 22:08SPEAKER_01: He's like, he's that he's that player that you you wonder like, why is he not on the floor?
- 22:14SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 22:14SPEAKER_01: Like I know he needs a break, but like get your two minutes and get back out there, Ace.
- 22:18SPEAKER_01: We need you.
- 22:19SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 22:19SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 22:20SPEAKER_00: Exactly the point, man, for sure.
- 22:21SPEAKER_00: I think what Ace is doing is pretty impressive.
- 22:24SPEAKER_00: And again, I know it's early, but even if these level out and he loses half of this per uh percentage-wise, and you know, like and drops his totally like maybe 50% increase for the year over year.
- 22:34SPEAKER_00: I think it's still pretty good.
- 22:35SPEAKER_00: He's still trying to figure it out, man.
- 22:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 22:37SPEAKER_00: So this is really impressive to see what this kid can do.
- 22:39SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, he's starting.
- 22:40SPEAKER_00: And at night, I honestly, man, I think, like I mentioned before, he may start on the bench, but he will be known as a starter for this team before the end of the year.
- 22:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I I I totally agree.
- 22:50SPEAKER_01: I think that I think he's shown it.
- 22:52SPEAKER_01: Um, and and realistically, that that lineup with Ace in there with you know, key ace, DP, Lari, triple J, it looks like it could work because you get some of that rebounding back from Ace.
- 23:05SPEAKER_01: Um, you've obviously got a ton of scoring with the other four guys.
- 23:08SPEAKER_01: I I just I love it more and more, man.
- 23:11SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 23:11SPEAKER_01: Like this team is this team is just really it's been fun to watch.
- 23:16SPEAKER_01: Has the game have the games gone our way?
- 23:18SPEAKER_01: No.
- 23:18SPEAKER_01: Do we have moments where we look bad?
- 23:21SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 23:21SPEAKER_00: But um evidence over the last two and a half minutes.
- 23:24SPEAKER_01: I mean, absolutely.
- 23:25SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, we'll get into it more next week.
- 23:27SPEAKER_01: We we got a great segment on uh on losing culture.
- 23:30SPEAKER_01: So you guys make sure you tune in.
- 23:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
- 23:32SPEAKER_00: Got a couple more comments here.
- 23:33SPEAKER_00: We got one from uh Aaron Henry.
- 23:35SPEAKER_00: Much love, 100%.
- 23:37SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it, buddy.
- 23:37SPEAKER_00: Karen for Darren jumping in here and I he's either uh he either made the same mistake of you and tuning me out or he's making fun of you here.
- 23:43SPEAKER_00: One of the two, and I'll take either way.
- 23:45SPEAKER_00: Uh Keontae George didn't double his stats, he doubled his salary, and then some absolutely man, absolutely.
- 23:50SPEAKER_00: I do think Keontae George is showing you know some true leadership capabilities and still putting up uh increase points and stuff like that.
- 23:57SPEAKER_00: His stats did increase so far this year, which is nice to see, but uh yeah.
- 24:02SPEAKER_01: But mostly just the salary.
- 24:03SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we were talking, but I was referring to Ace Bailey in case anybody in case maybe I slipped a bit.
- 24:12SPEAKER_01: Sorry, Darren.
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- 27:12SPEAKER_00: So let's go ahead and jump right into it, my friend.
- 27:15SPEAKER_00: Our Utes keep on rolling, AJ.
- 27:17SPEAKER_00: Yes, they did.
- 27:18SPEAKER_00: Yes, the Uts are coming off probably the closest team they have ever come to uh from a bad win against, which was uh On the Road versus Colorado.
- 27:27SPEAKER_00: Um believe it or not, what they call bad win is when you still won the game, but you didn't feel like you really walked away.
- 27:32SPEAKER_00: You know, you don't really feel like a winner on that one when you when you got that win against Colorado.
- 27:37SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, they had no business allowing that team to be that close.
- 27:40SPEAKER_00: Um so our biggest concern, AJ, was coming out of that, was how were the boys on the hill going to respond the next week?
- 27:46SPEAKER_00: Well, respond they did, my friend.
- 27:48SPEAKER_00: The Utes did come back from a 10-point deficit in the second half uh and for the top of their for a top 14 win against Houston Cougars last weekend.
- 27:58SPEAKER_00: Dampier led the way with 150 yards rushing, two touchdowns uh coming along with that, one being uh the game's ceiling score in the last of the fourth quarter there.
- 28:10SPEAKER_00: Sorry, the last ceiling the victory form in the fourth quarter.
- 28:13SPEAKER_00: Use defense held Houston scoreless in the fourth, AJ.
- 28:17SPEAKER_00: Uh, what we saw from this team uh this week was that the Utes uh will find a way to win a game even when they don't have their best stuff.
- 28:24SPEAKER_00: Uh Utes do improve to 7-0 for the series for the season, four and oh in conference, standing tall as a only undefeated team in the Big 12 conference.
- 28:37SPEAKER_01: And also only one of three undefeated teams in all of college football.
- 28:42SPEAKER_00: Also, they have the longest active winning streak of 14, 15 games.
- 28:47SPEAKER_01: I think it's 13 consecutive dating back to last season.
- 28:51SPEAKER_01: I bet.
- 28:52SPEAKER_01: Is it 13?
- 28:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it's 13.
- 28:53SPEAKER_00: Let us know in the comments.
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- 28:56unknown: Yeah.
- 28:57SPEAKER_01: But uh this that game had such a weird flow.
- 29:00SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was so fun.
- 29:01SPEAKER_01: Being at the game, um, it never felt like the youths were out of it.
- 29:04SPEAKER_01: Like the energy, the energy in Rice Eccles was was electric.
- 29:07SPEAKER_01: Um, every time they got the ball, it was it was really fun.
- 29:10SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, uh it's funny because when you're at the game, you almost look forward to the opposing team having the ball because that's when you can actually get loud and jump around and and then you feed off that offensive energy and them like getting into it, right?
- 29:23SPEAKER_01: Like you that's that's the time where you can you can get loud and be crazy.
- 29:27SPEAKER_01: Um so it was it was a lot of fun um being just just being there.
- 29:31SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously I love I love going to Utah games, but um yeah, I mean that that second half was it was kind of a thing of beauty, you know.
- 29:38SPEAKER_01: They came out and they allowed him to get a touchdown and and go go down 10-0.
- 29:42SPEAKER_01: Um, and then the Utes just came out and marched the ball right back down the field.
- 29:47SPEAKER_01: And and it was just one of those things where it it almost seemed like the Utes had locked in at that point.
- 29:53SPEAKER_01: They they felt like they had made up their mind that they weren't going to lose this game.
- 29:57SPEAKER_01: And you know, they march right back down the field, they score, you know, they get it back to 10-7.
- 30:02SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, it was just it was just a really good game.
- 30:06SPEAKER_01: I think uh I think what I loved most from this was probably Devin Dampier.
- 30:12SPEAKER_01: This guy is just such a winner.
- 30:16SPEAKER_01: Winner, winner, winner.
- 30:18SPEAKER_01: He is now 17-2 as a starter at the University of Utah.
- 30:22SPEAKER_01: People continue to doubt his ability to play quarterback at this level.
- 30:26SPEAKER_01: Um and he's just he just continues to come out and show that he's more than happy to put the team on his back.
- 30:33SPEAKER_01: He'll he'll run the ball if he needs to, he's gonna make the right read.
- 30:36SPEAKER_01: Did he have a couple interceptions in this game?
- 30:38SPEAKER_01: Yes, he did.
- 30:39SPEAKER_01: He threw one where he, you know, where he was getting hit, you know, off his back foot, threw it into the end zone trying to get a trying to make kind of a an explosive play and and and missed it.
- 30:47SPEAKER_01: It was they happened.
- 30:50SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, the other one was on a bad side uh route to the side of the field.
- 30:54SPEAKER_01: Um this is just this guy is so special, man.
- 30:59SPEAKER_01: Devin Dampier is just he he's the guy you want on your side when games aren't going your way.
- 31:04SPEAKER_01: Because I I don't think it ever like from my seats, you can see him come off the field.
- 31:10SPEAKER_01: And there was never a look of doubt in his face at all.
- 31:13SPEAKER_01: He never it never phased him, dude.
- 31:15SPEAKER_01: Like there was never you never thought, oh man, these guys, these guys think they're gonna lose.
- 31:20SPEAKER_01: It was just never that way.
- 31:21SPEAKER_01: And don't get me wrong, it's not like the score was ever that way, right?
- 31:23SPEAKER_01: This team knows they can score touchdowns, so going down 13 points doesn't scare them.
- 31:28SPEAKER_01: Um they know that they have a stout defense, they know they can get a stop when they need to.
- 31:31SPEAKER_01: Um and then the other thing that's just great is we've got we've got Way Sean Parker, man.
- 31:36SPEAKER_01: And and and really he just he continues to grind and kind of wear out defenses, and uh it it it's really tough for a defense because he can just break off a 10 to 15 yard run and and just re-ignite a drive and reignite the energy.
- 31:50SPEAKER_01: And it's just this team is just I mean, I could talk about them with without you even saying anything for the next 30 minutes.
- 31:57SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
- 31:58SPEAKER_01: What were your thoughts on the Houston game?
- 32:00SPEAKER_00: I mean, when it came to the Houston game, man, I I just thought it was pretty, you know, spot on.
- 32:06SPEAKER_00: I think your analysis there is it's pretty spot on.
- 32:08SPEAKER_00: At some point, man, even when they were down 10 per 10 points in the second half, you never really felt like this game was out of hand, like they were gonna lose it.
- 32:15SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or like, are they actually going to lose this game?
- 32:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a possibility they could have, but you never at that time felt like, okay, they've lost control of this one.
- 32:23SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't know if they're gonna pull it out.
- 32:25SPEAKER_00: But they definitely did make it interesting.
- 32:27SPEAKER_00: But yeah, you know, when it comes to that, again, they didn't have their best stuff, but they put their faith in Devin Dampier, and he again, 150 yards rushing, 150 yards passing, basically did it all for the Utes uh again this week, you know, and you know, really makes you want to, you know, I really hope that they focus on his health a little bit more, yeah.
- 32:47SPEAKER_00: Because you know, we're getting in the later end of the half of the season.
- 32:49SPEAKER_00: We have Bert Flicklin there that we can use for some of these minutes.
- 32:52SPEAKER_00: Uh, but the Ute's got to get a blowout win and get uh Devin Dampier off the field.
- 32:55SPEAKER_00: I think that was my main concern is that we need to get one of those wins where we can get his get him off his feet a little bit, you know, and get Bert Flicklin in there, see if we can get down to the third string as well.
- 33:06SPEAKER_00: Uh and get some some rest because you know this guy can't go all four quarters every single game, you know.
- 33:12SPEAKER_00: So that's my only real concern this one.
- 33:14SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, thought it was a solid win.
- 33:17SPEAKER_00: Um great to see the Uts, you know, actually push back on a game where they didn't have their best stuff and they almost blew against Colorado, so they needed a response.
- 33:25SPEAKER_00: And I think they did a good job.
- 33:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 33:26SPEAKER_01: I I I loved the the late defensive changes.
- 33:29SPEAKER_01: Uh I think I think that Coach Swan did a really good job at the end of the game to dial up pressures and put a ton of a ton of pressure back on Connor Wiegman, right?
- 33:42SPEAKER_01: Like they they ended up, you know, overload blitzing, it led to that Jackson Benny strip sack, which really kind of put the game away.
- 33:48SPEAKER_01: Um but but the fact that they were they they changed the defensive scheme, right?
- 33:54SPEAKER_01: They were just kind of they were they were playing the the standard Utah defense, Kalani Sataki at BYU, they do it too, but it's bend, don't break.
- 34:02SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 34:02SPEAKER_01: They're willing to give up those intermediate pass yards, uh, and then once you get down, they're gonna make you kick a field goal because those intermediate pass yards only work until you get to the 20, and then there's nowhere to go.
- 34:11SPEAKER_01: Our guys are faster than your guys, we're gonna play our guys one-on-one.
- 34:14SPEAKER_01: It's fine.
- 34:16SPEAKER_01: Um, but they change it up and and they they applied pressure, they were going after the quarterback, they were sending you know safeties, they were sending corners, like, and and it was really nice to see that change mid-game.
- 34:28SPEAKER_01: And for Utah to pull this one out, it really just shows how they're they're willing to adapt mid-game, gives you a whole lot of confidence going into this game.
- 34:35SPEAKER_01: They've got they've got a tough one this week that we're about to get right into.
- 34:38SPEAKER_01: So, yeah.
- 34:39SPEAKER_00: Speaking of which, uh AJ, the Utes are undefeated.
- 34:42SPEAKER_00: Ute, um, let's actually hit some comments here before we jump into that.
- 34:44SPEAKER_00: Let's hit some of these.
- 34:46SPEAKER_00: Pacific Northwest Utes joining the channel there.
- 34:48SPEAKER_00: Uh, Utah is on a lucky 13-win streak.
- 34:52SPEAKER_00: Uh, last loss was more than over a year ago, October 18th, to dare I say, the team down McAfee.
- 34:59SPEAKER_00: I mean down south.
- 35:01SPEAKER_00: Great.
- 35:03SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that so much.
- 35:05SPEAKER_00: We probably should have read that after the next segment because that would have been a great transition comment.
- 35:09SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 35:10SPEAKER_00: My bad.
- 35:10SPEAKER_00: My bad.
- 35:11SPEAKER_00: Uh, we've got Greg Hawkins, channel legend.
- 35:13SPEAKER_00: Greg Hawkins says, I was not expecting the defensive battle against Houston.
- 35:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 35:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah, neither were we, man.
- 35:18SPEAKER_00: I think what that's one of the things we talked about last week is that they're one of the worst uh defensive passing teams in um college football.
- 35:24SPEAKER_00: I think it's what we talked about last week.
- 35:26SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I was definitely thinking we'd be able to generate some offense against Houston.
- 35:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 35:29SPEAKER_01: No doubt about it.
- 35:30SPEAKER_01: We were we were expecting we were expecting more of an offensive kind of slug fest, um, you know, maybe a couple stops here and there, but that not not what happened.
- 35:38SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was it was definitely a defensive battle.
- 35:40SPEAKER_01: And I don't know.
- 35:41SPEAKER_01: The Utes moved the ball okay in the first half.
- 35:44SPEAKER_01: But you you move the ball okay, then you go down and give up, you know, you you throw an interception, you move the ball okay.
- 35:50SPEAKER_01: At the end of the half, you go down and you miss a field goal, you end up with no points out of that.
- 35:54SPEAKER_00: Like yeah, two drives that were all promising.
- 35:56SPEAKER_01: It just came out of that, just nothing came out of them, right?
- 35:59SPEAKER_01: And then you shot your foot there, yeah.
- 36:01SPEAKER_01: But but luckily your defense keeps you in the game and you're only down 3-0 going at the halftime.
- 36:04SPEAKER_00: So really simple, really easy for them to fall out of out of form on that, though.
- 36:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
- 36:10SPEAKER_00: And the fact, again, to your point, the fact that you know defense held you in the game, and again, the fact that they held them scoreless in the fourth, I think was huge.
- 36:16SPEAKER_00: So yeah, um, yeah, great point.
- 36:18SPEAKER_00: Great point.
- 36:19SPEAKER_00: Uh, we got uh Mammoth, undertaking, uh, fear the damn here, and have friends with Beanies?
- 36:26SPEAKER_00: Bennies.
- 36:27SPEAKER_00: Benny's, yeah.
- 36:30SPEAKER_00: What am I missing there?
- 36:31SPEAKER_00: Jackson Benny.
- 36:32SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank you.
- 36:32SPEAKER_03: Gosh, gosh.
- 36:34SPEAKER_00: That's bugging me.
- 36:35SPEAKER_01: Jackson Benny and his brother Noah Benny's also the tight end.
- 36:38SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's true.
- 36:38SPEAKER_00: That's true.
- 36:39SPEAKER_00: I was thinking Benny's.
- 36:40SPEAKER_00: I'm like, Benny's, Benny Hanna.
- 36:42SPEAKER_00: Anyway, I'm old.
- 36:44SPEAKER_01: Um Denny's Denny's, Rennie.
- 36:47SPEAKER_01: Have you been to a Denny's lately?
- 36:48SPEAKER_01: Do we know anyone named Lenny?
- 36:49SPEAKER_01: No.
- 36:50SPEAKER_01: No, don't go.
- 36:51SPEAKER_01: It ain't worth it.
- 36:52SPEAKER_01: Denny's is horrible.
- 36:53SPEAKER_00: Don't don't.
- 36:53SPEAKER_01: The last time I went, it was bad, and that was like four or five years ago.
- 36:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it used to be a great spot for, you know.
- 36:58SPEAKER_01: Especially like late night.
- 37:00SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, late night.
- 37:00SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 37:01SPEAKER_01: Two o'clock in the morning.
- 37:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, two o'clock in the morning, nothing else is open.
- 37:03SPEAKER_01: Denny's go get you a hot stack of pancakes and yeah.
- 37:06SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
- 37:07SPEAKER_00: Something I I went with uh Buffalo chicken strips and and solid choice.
- 37:11SPEAKER_00: You know, solid choice, yeah.
- 37:13SPEAKER_00: It's usually when I'm, you know, trying to come down from a night at the club or something, you know.
- 37:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're just like you're trying to figure out who's sober enough to drive.
- 37:19SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, those are we do not condone drinking and driving on DNA sports.
- 37:25SPEAKER_01: I'm absolutely not.
- 37:26SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying, like those are back in the day, you know, it was different back then.
- 37:30SPEAKER_00: What's the stats statute of limitations on that?
- 37:32SPEAKER_01: Um, but let's go ahead and definitely over 10 years.
- 37:35SPEAKER_00: Thank goodness.
- 37:36SPEAKER_00: Uh all right, let's go ahead and jump into uh previewing uh the Utes versus Cincinnati, shall we?
- 37:41SPEAKER_00: Yep, let's do it.
- 37:41SPEAKER_00: Our Utes, uh our undefeated Utes AJ, hit the road and traveled to Cincinnati.
- 37:46SPEAKER_00: The Bearcats are five and two.
- 37:48SPEAKER_00: They are one and two overall in conference play.
- 37:50SPEAKER_00: Sorry, not it's five and two overall, one and two in conference play.
- 37:53SPEAKER_00: Uh the Bearcats, however, are coming off a huge upset against the number eight Texas Tech.
- 37:59SPEAKER_00: Uh, our Utes are favored by six and a half on this one on the road.
- 38:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 38:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that that win against Texas Tech was was a really good one.
- 38:08SPEAKER_01: Um the Bearcats have had a good season, like a sneaky good season so far.
- 38:12SPEAKER_01: Like you said, a five and two, their two losses coming to Arizona.
- 38:15SPEAKER_01: Um, and then their their other one was kind of in a not meant to be shootout at West Virginia, um, where they lost that one 45 to 42.
- 38:24SPEAKER_01: Um, but that that win against tech is huge for that program, man.
- 38:27SPEAKER_01: I mean, and a win like that against a ranked opponent at home is is something that kind of can very easily change the trajectory of your season, you know, because you get the fans engaged, they come out.
- 38:39SPEAKER_01: Um, and I mean it's not great for us because guess what?
- 38:42SPEAKER_01: We're doing the same thing.
- 38:43unknown: Right.
- 38:43SPEAKER_01: You know, we're going in there as a ranked opponent.
- 38:45SPEAKER_01: You know, we're ranked higher than Texas Tech was.
- 38:47SPEAKER_01: Uh and we got to go in there and face a Cincinnati crowd that is known for being very rowdy.
- 38:53SPEAKER_01: Um, it's not a huge stadium, but they are they are great fans.
- 38:56SPEAKER_01: They show up, um, they're loud and and they're expecting their team to win.
- 39:00SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 39:01SPEAKER_01: I mean, this has been a good team for a couple of years now.
- 39:03SPEAKER_01: Um, so I guess you could uh you kind of say the same thing, right?
- 39:07SPEAKER_01: I mean the youth's got to go in there and they've got to perform that same way.
- 39:09SPEAKER_01: Um they've got to go in there and and and expect to win just like Cincinnati expects to win.
- 39:15SPEAKER_01: Uh that's that's gonna be really important.
- 39:17SPEAKER_01: And uh but you know the the youths have the youth the youths are going in there with this undefeated record, and I think that means a lot to them.
- 39:26SPEAKER_01: I I think they are going to value that and they're going to continue to play for that.
- 39:31SPEAKER_01: Um Utah is definitely the better football team in this, um, but I think momentum is very good.
- 39:36SPEAKER_01: I do think it is hard to bounce back from a win like the one they had last week.
- 39:43SPEAKER_01: We saw that hangover from BYU.
- 39:45SPEAKER_01: You know, they they won against Notre Dame, but the next week they lose to UCF.
- 39:50SPEAKER_01: Um and I think that Cincinnati, there there is a potential to have some hangover.
- 39:55SPEAKER_01: You could you could say the same thing for Utah.
- 39:57SPEAKER_01: They had a big win against you know that Houston team in Salt Lake City.
- 40:01SPEAKER_01: You hope they don't come out and have a hangover.
- 40:03SPEAKER_01: So um I I am an eternal optimist for Utah, so obviously I'm gonna say my money is gonna be on Utah.
- 40:10SPEAKER_01: Um quarterback JC French, the fourth, he has been uh a fairly accurate passer.
- 40:14SPEAKER_01: He's going for 1,510 yards, 13 touchdowns, only thrown two interceptions.
- 40:18SPEAKER_01: Um he does have a completion percentage at 69.4%.
- 40:22SPEAKER_01: I do want to point out I watched two or three of these Cincinnati games.
- 40:26SPEAKER_01: They do throw a lot of passes to the flats, crossing routes.
- 40:30SPEAKER_01: They're not heavy upfield passing team.
- 40:33SPEAKER_01: That's just not kind of their style.
- 40:35SPEAKER_01: They are a very run-heavy team.
- 40:36SPEAKER_01: Um, their lead running back, Cole Tab, he has been great this year.
- 40:39SPEAKER_01: He's got 621 yards uh on 65 carries and has scored nine touchdowns.
- 40:45SPEAKER_01: So um, they do got a couple um a couple good receivers.
- 40:48SPEAKER_01: JV Gibson's got 385 yards on 29 receptions.
- 40:52SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, Cincinnati does have the eighth ranked rushing offense in the country that gains 234.6 yards per game.
- 41:00SPEAKER_01: That will go against Utah's eighth ranked rushing defense, which is only allowing 88.3 yards per game.
- 41:06SPEAKER_01: Uh Cincinnati has a 78th ranked passing offense, good for 220 yards per game, and it will go against Utah's 91st ranked rank uh ranked passing defense that allows 224 yards per game.
- 41:19SPEAKER_01: So a lot to lot that was a lot.
- 41:23SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
- 41:24SPEAKER_00: I had a lot I wanted to say.
- 41:25SPEAKER_00: All right, man.
- 41:26SPEAKER_00: No, that's good.
- 41:27SPEAKER_00: That's good.
- 41:27SPEAKER_00: Um so when it comes to the offense, man, thank you for breaking that down.
- 41:30SPEAKER_00: Um when it comes to the defense on this one, AJ, Cincinnati is ranked second to last in conference and total defense and passing defense.
- 41:37SPEAKER_00: They are ranked 13th in scoring defense and ranked 11th in rushing defense.
- 41:42SPEAKER_00: Uh, there are 16 teams in the conference, by the way, AJ.
- 41:45SPEAKER_00: So those numbers aren't great.
- 41:47SPEAKER_00: Correct.
- 41:48SPEAKER_00: You know, we'll be yeah, not good.
- 41:51SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it's not good at all.
- 41:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, when looking at a few highlights here, man.
- 41:54SPEAKER_00: Some of some of them I want to point out uh is that uh MJ Cannon, senior transfer, leads the defen leads the defensive backs there uh with 20 tackles and two interceptions and a force fumble.
- 42:04SPEAKER_00: Uh while there isn't a whole lot to highlight on this uh, you know, Bearcats defensive squad, they did hold down the Red Raiders to only 24 points, which was their lowest scoring total all season.
- 42:18SPEAKER_00: So they're coming off of a pretty good defensive showing last week.
- 42:23SPEAKER_01: Let's hope that the Utah offense can kind of to be clear though, the Texas Tech offense has not been great all year.
- 42:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I just Texas Tech is one of those teams that has very much relied on their defense this season.
- 42:36SPEAKER_01: I'm supposed to find a highlight on the defense, and I found something.
- 42:39SPEAKER_01: But also I that's only speaking towards Cincinnati's offense, right?
- 42:44SPEAKER_01: Because they did a good job against this Texas Tech defense, which is what they hang their hat on.
- 42:47SPEAKER_01: And they scored points against them.
- 42:49SPEAKER_01: They absolutely did.
- 42:50SPEAKER_01: But the Texas Tech offense has been one of those things that's been really iffy this whole season.
- 42:54SPEAKER_01: So um I don't know, man.
- 42:57SPEAKER_01: I like this matchup for Utah.
- 42:58SPEAKER_01: I like it a lot.
- 42:59SPEAKER_01: I think Utah plays a lot better on the road during the day.
- 43:02SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think they should be able to take advantage of this Cincinnati defense that has had holes.
- 43:07SPEAKER_01: Um, you've been able to run the ball against them, and you know, passing, even though it hasn't been as or sorry, you should be able to pass the ball against him.
- 43:15SPEAKER_01: The passing defense has allowed 284 yards per game, which is 135th out of 138 D1 schools.
- 43:22SPEAKER_01: So um they have been better at stopping the run.
- 43:25SPEAKER_01: Their rush defense is ranked 76 and it allows 145 per game.
- 43:28SPEAKER_01: Those averages, if we can get either one of those and either one of those stats, the youths will win this game based on their defense.
- 43:34SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I like it, man.
- 43:36SPEAKER_00: I like it.
- 43:37SPEAKER_00: I think the youths are gonna return to their 30 plus point game.
- 43:40SPEAKER_00: Uh, again, with this defense being what it is, uh, for the uh Bearcats here in Cincinnati.
- 43:46SPEAKER_00: I think the youths are gonna go past that thirty point mark and we're gonna see them hit uh forty three points.
- 43:50SPEAKER_00: I think they're gonna get the win forty three to twenty.
- 43:52SPEAKER_01: That would be excellent.
- 43:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I feel like Utah will be able to slow their rushing attack.
- 43:57SPEAKER_01: They're gonna have to force French to throw the ball more.
- 43:59SPEAKER_01: Uh Um just make him beat us with his arm.
- 44:02SPEAKER_01: Um, I know we haven't looked great against the past at times this year, but we, you know, we have made great adjustments, like I mentioned late in the games, um, that have kind of kept us where we're at now, which is undefeated.
- 44:12SPEAKER_01: And that's that's a great place to be at this point in the season.
- 44:14SPEAKER_01: Uh, I'm gonna say Utah does win.
- 44:16SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna go 35-17.
- 44:18SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 44:19SPEAKER_00: I like it.
- 44:20SPEAKER_00: I like it.
- 44:20SPEAKER_00: Um look for the Uts to lean on their offense a little bit more in this game and take a little bit of pressure off their defense off of back-to-back weeks where they've kind of leaned heavy on the defense.
- 44:29SPEAKER_00: So and I think they'll that's why I think they're gonna allow some scoring this week.
- 44:32SPEAKER_00: Two touchdowns, two field goals, I think is a safe number to let them have access to.
- 44:36SPEAKER_00: One touchdown and a couple of field goals early on, and then maybe a garbage time touchdown.
- 44:40SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, so that's why I think they're gonna be able to put up against the Uts, because I just think, again, they really kind of need to not put so much pressure on the defense this week.
- 44:48SPEAKER_01: But I think you're absolutely right.
- 44:50SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I think the I think the Uts are the goal is very much going to be have long methodical drives, keep the defense off the field, keep them fresh.
- 44:57SPEAKER_01: You know, they they don't want to be out there, you know, counting every single snap and making sure these guys are doing okay.
- 45:03SPEAKER_01: Um, they they want the offense to get up, you know, get get ahead in this game quickly, and then you know, let's let's let that defense do their job when they need to, not because they have to.
- 45:13SPEAKER_00: Nice, nice.
- 45:14SPEAKER_00: Join Drake Hawkins in the chat here, guys, and let us know what your score is, your predictive score for uh this week's game, Utah versus Cincinnati.
- 45:21SPEAKER_00: Greg has the Utes winning 31 to 24.
- 45:25SPEAKER_00: Very nice, man.
- 45:26SPEAKER_00: Exactly six and a half points, right?
- 45:27SPEAKER_00: Just over the six and a half points.
- 45:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're taking the over on this one, is what I'm saying.
- 45:30SPEAKER_00: Taking the over.
- 45:31SPEAKER_00: I like it.
- 45:32SPEAKER_00: I like it.
- 45:32SPEAKER_00: Uh we'll hit that other comment here when we jump into the next segment there.
- 45:36SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, let us know what your thoughts are in there.
- 45:38SPEAKER_00: Before we jump off of the Uts, man, uh, we want to do a little bit, uh, we want to respond a little bit to the whole Pat Back of V situation here, um, which is something, you know, most of the time, you know, stories come up like this and they don't deserve the breathing room, especially on a show where we only cover things once a week.
- 45:54SPEAKER_00: You do have these daily podcasts who put stuff out every single week and they need to answer this thing.
- 45:58SPEAKER_00: But I thought this one, you know, based off of how he responded, definitely warranted some commenting on.
- 46:05SPEAKER_00: Uh so let's go ahead and break it down.
- 46:06SPEAKER_00: Pat McAvee uh claimed that he felt uncomfortable and unwelcome during his ESPN College Game Day broadcast at the University of Utah uh this last weekend.
- 46:15SPEAKER_00: Uh capping off uh by stating, hey, I hate this place.
- 46:18SPEAKER_00: I expect um and and express that he hopes to never return.
- 46:22SPEAKER_00: Um so basically, what would this originally stem from?
- 46:25SPEAKER_00: The University of Utah social media uh is the catalyst of this uh primary to trigger, the primary trigger of uh McAfee's frustration was the video that he that the university published uh on Instagram um just before the show, the night before, uh when students were camping out uh for game day.
- 46:42SPEAKER_00: Uh the student school asked students for their best Pat McAvee impression, uh, resulting in clips of the students mocking his animated style, calling him corny and creepy, um, and other uh otherms telling him just to keep his short.
- 46:56SPEAKER_01: For the record, they don't call him creepy.
- 46:58SPEAKER_01: It keeps getting reported that he said he was creepy, but like I don't I didn't actually see it.
- 47:02SPEAKER_01: You saw the clip.
- 47:03SPEAKER_01: Did they did they actually say he was creepy in that clip?
- 47:05SPEAKER_00: I didn't see the full Instagram one.
- 47:07SPEAKER_00: I didn't go directly to University of Utah's.
- 47:10SPEAKER_01: Well, they've deleted it since then.
- 47:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm assuming so.
- 47:13SPEAKER_00: But um, but yeah, so Pac uh McAvee explained on this one, and also to keep your shirt on, uh, that kind of stuff, you know, which was really stupid because literally the next is what six hours later, they're all chatting for him to take his shirt off.
- 47:26SPEAKER_00: Um, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense, guys.
- 47:28SPEAKER_00: You know, he's be on one side of the s, you know, I don't know.
- 47:31SPEAKER_00: That one kind of bothered me a little bit.
- 47:33SPEAKER_00: Uh McAvee explained uh that the Pat Ma on the Pat McAvee show that he doesn't mind the fans talking trash on their own blogs or on their own social media, but took a huge major issue with the official university uh account endorsing the mockery uh right as he arrived to provide an infomercial for the place, basically, um uh to a national audience.
- 47:54SPEAKER_00: Uh so now this is also backed up by the uh field goal kicker backlash.
- 47:59SPEAKER_00: So McAfee was frustrated.
- 48:00SPEAKER_00: That was frustration was compounded.
- 48:03SPEAKER_00: When the kicking is easy contest happened this week prior to BYU, wealthy donors stepped up to boost the prize from one million to three million.
- 48:12SPEAKER_00: Shout out to McKinley, uh, you know, the cookie guys, you know, down south.
- 48:16SPEAKER_00: You know, they have a lot more boosters, a lot more money donating to that school than apparently the youths did.
- 48:20SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, when the youth student uh reflected on the contest, uh she got picked and said only one million, and openly complained said only one million, BYU got three million.
- 48:30SPEAKER_00: McAvee uh seemed highly insult uh insulted and to the ungrateful reaction, uh, shouting on his show, like, it's my money.
- 48:38SPEAKER_00: It's like, all right, I hate this place.
- 48:41SPEAKER_00: So, and then aggravated uh safety concerns.
- 48:43SPEAKER_00: Now, McAvee also went as far as to allude to the 2025 assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk at a nearby Utah Valley University to emphasize how unsafe and exposed he felt he was walking out uh in front of the Utah crowd after the university's post went live.
- 49:04SPEAKER_00: The aftermath of this, basically, AJ, uh, while McAvee acknowledged that the Utes um have a good football team uh and the uh Incredible Must student section, he noted that he will likely uh call in sick if K if Gaiden Day ever forces him to return to Salt Lake.
- 49:19SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, so that's basically the whole incident.
- 49:23SPEAKER_00: It's kind of in a nutshell there.
- 49:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's uh I think it's really funny how this has just absolutely blown up over the last couple of days.
- 49:30SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's been uh I've seen the video, and I I think that for him to be so upset about that, it just seems like nothing to me.
- 49:38SPEAKER_01: Like even his initial reaction, I don't get why why he would be upset about that.
- 49:43SPEAKER_01: I mean, the university did issue an apology to Pat.
- 49:45SPEAKER_01: I mean, they said that they didn't mean any offense, you know, that they they obviously want him back, you know, if if he's ever, you know, if if game day you'll win game day does return, is uh pretty much what they said.
- 49:56SPEAKER_01: But I I mean I don't I really don't think that they needed to do that.
- 50:00SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, really, this is a guy that I think is uh he's a master at keeping himself in the spotlight.
- 50:05SPEAKER_01: He's kind of done that with ESPN.
- 50:07SPEAKER_01: Um he's he's always talking about how much people don't like him.
- 50:09SPEAKER_01: I mean he does it on his show almost daily, saying these this group doesn't like me, these people and the New York Times talk about how they don't like me.
- 50:17SPEAKER_01: Um and I actually like Pat McAfee.
- 50:19SPEAKER_01: I I I've watched him quite a bit.
- 50:21SPEAKER_01: He does quite a few interviews with Ryan Smith, and obviously as a jazz fan, it's kind of tough.
- 50:25SPEAKER_01: I I I follow Ryan Smith's stuff, right?
- 50:27SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm a jazz fan, and I I think he's he's been a great owner.
- 50:30SPEAKER_01: Um, and and him and Pat McAfee do quite a bit of stuff together.
- 50:33SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
- 50:34SPEAKER_01: I think it's a weird time to whine about something that uh I just didn't see as a big deal.
- 50:38SPEAKER_01: So um, but I'm all for it, man.
- 50:40SPEAKER_01: Uh, one more thing to kind of fire up the youths, have them keep winning, one more thing to say, you know, game day come back here.
- 50:47SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm all in on whatever it's gonna be.
- 50:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for me, man, I think this was a bad look by the university uh for a few reasons.
- 50:54SPEAKER_00: One, can we go one year without some stupid thing going on in the media for this team?
- 50:59SPEAKER_00: Last year it was when the um when the athletic director went in front of cameras unprovoked and said, We're happy to be here, but we're not happy to be here for this week and how that went down.
- 51:10SPEAKER_00: Okay, we we don't need that.
- 51:11SPEAKER_00: You don't need your athletic director to hold his own press conference impromptu and make statements when he wasn't even invited on the podium.
- 51:17SPEAKER_00: We didn't need that last year.
- 51:18SPEAKER_00: We kind of don't need this this year.
- 51:20SPEAKER_00: The University of Utah is in a position where it can put itself in a unique spot to, you know, really run through and be the legitimate threat, be the force that this conference has.
- 51:30SPEAKER_00: We don't need a side show like this taking it away from it.
- 51:35SPEAKER_00: I think this is a bad look by the University of Utah to put something out like this.
- 51:39SPEAKER_00: And, you know, yeah, I understand it's all in good fun, it's all in mocking, it's all in joking, but it was just, in my opinion, you could record all that stuff you want.
- 51:48SPEAKER_00: Maybe be careful about what you're actually posting live, right?
- 51:51SPEAKER_00: Do an impression, you know, some of that stuff that they post there.
- 51:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I didn't see anything creepy either.
- 51:55SPEAKER_00: I didn't hear, see, or hear that word, you know.
- 51:57SPEAKER_00: But Colin Corney saying, keep your shirt on and doing all that kind of stuff.
- 52:01SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 52:01SPEAKER_00: I just thought this was a bad idea, and whoever PR person approved this kind of social media content to be posted the night before he shows up really just was not paying attention, right?
- 52:12SPEAKER_00: Like you don't need this kind of negative publicity when you are right now the only team that's undefeated in the conference and you're in the driver's seat.
- 52:19SPEAKER_00: You don't need this kind of stuff.
- 52:20SPEAKER_00: This is what we should be talking about right now is the fact that this team is undefeated, they're leading the conference, they are the ones, you know.
- 52:26SPEAKER_01: One of the best teams in the nation.
- 52:28SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 52:28SPEAKER_00: They're a top 10 team.
- 52:29SPEAKER_00: This is what we should be talking about, you know.
- 52:31SPEAKER_00: But instead, we're talking about this, which I don't like.
- 52:34SPEAKER_00: Now, on the flip side of that, I do have a huge problem with how one thing that Pat McVeigh said, it's right up your alley about trying to keep himself in the center of the public's eye and keeping himself as part of the whole conversation, right?
- 52:50SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's when he when he lost means when he started talking about the whole Charlie Kirk thing.
- 52:55SPEAKER_00: Um this is a college football game with a shit ton of security, right?
- 53:01SPEAKER_00: If there was really any maybe more than that.
- 53:04SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 53:05SPEAKER_00: And you really are so concerned about your safety that you would have shown up not only at Rice Eccles, but you also showed up at BYU, where you're actually much closer to the UVU campus location than you were in Salt Lake City.
- 53:20SPEAKER_01: Much closer.
- 53:21SPEAKER_00: That right there was the issue to my statement.
- 53:23SPEAKER_00: You had to pull the Charlie Kirk card for why you felt uncomfortable in Salt Lake City, where nothing like that, where you were farther away from this than you were the week before, where you felt perfectly comfortable.
- 53:37SPEAKER_00: A lot of this just felt like giving fan service to his buddy Ryan Smith, you know, and really kind of you know paying you know respect to his alma mater, you know, because those got two are buddies.
- 53:49SPEAKER_00: But yeah, man, I just think that he used this platform as a way to bake a stance against ESPN, because I think he's not not necessarily happy with his deal there.
- 53:56SPEAKER_00: And I think he also did this to kind of you know just show loyalty to his buddy.
- 54:00SPEAKER_00: And I would have been perfectly fine with any of this except for the whole Charlie Kirk thing.
- 54:04SPEAKER_00: I felt that felt a little dirty, a little dirty in my opinion.
- 54:07SPEAKER_00: I think that took it too far.
- 54:08SPEAKER_01: Yep, I agree.
- 54:09SPEAKER_00: That's where he lost me.
- 54:10SPEAKER_01: The the best thing is is that there's there's one way that the youths can counteract this and stay in the national spotlight.
- 54:15SPEAKER_01: Win football games.
- 54:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's go out and win a football game.
- 54:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the only problem in the past is that that it didn't come off of a win.
- 54:22SPEAKER_00: So let's go ahead and keep that going for sure.
- 54:24SPEAKER_00: For sure.
- 54:25SPEAKER_00: Um, shout out to McKinley Cutler there.
- 54:28SPEAKER_00: Uh sorry for uh the team for the Cougars uh losing their undefeated status against UFC.
- 54:34SPEAKER_00: We're hoping that UCF, not UFC.
- 54:38SPEAKER_00: Completely different sport, completely different.
- 54:40SPEAKER_01: It's fine though.
- 54:41SPEAKER_01: I we got the idea.
- 54:42SPEAKER_00: I wonder who'd win in that one.
- 54:44SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say the football team that plays football.
- 54:46SPEAKER_00: I still think that I think you have to.
- 54:47SPEAKER_01: I mean, if it's a cage match, I bet you the UFC fighters win.
- 54:50SPEAKER_00: I don't know, do they?
- 54:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
- 54:52SPEAKER_01: Those guys are huge and fast, you know.
- 54:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but some of them are small.
- 54:56SPEAKER_01: Some UFC fighters are really small.
- 54:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm just saying.
- 54:58SPEAKER_01: I just think I'm not saying they can't fight, they're just small, right?
- 55:01SPEAKER_01: Like five foot four, 120 pounds.
- 55:03SPEAKER_01: Like, you're not going up against a six foot eight lineman from BYU.
- 55:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm just saying I think the Us would win in a cage match against a bunch of UFC fighters.
- 55:10SPEAKER_00: I just think they will.
- 55:11SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 55:11SPEAKER_00: Or sorry, BYU.
- 55:12SPEAKER_00: Sorry, BYU.
- 55:13SPEAKER_00: I think they would.
- 55:13SPEAKER_00: I just, you know, anyway.
- 55:15SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, so uh congrats to them.
- 55:17SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, again, they need to win out basically, and kind of now they kind of put their whole their whole season on the line against Utah now.
- 55:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah they they have to win against Utah now.
- 55:26SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
- 55:27SPEAKER_01: Uh so that game just gets more and more important.
- 55:30SPEAKER_00: Speaking of which, did you hear the story?
- 55:31SPEAKER_00: Did you hear the news that came out about that game?
- 55:33SPEAKER_00: The 10 o'clock kick time?
- 55:35SPEAKER_00: The 10 o'clock kick time.
- 55:37SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 55:37SPEAKER_00: What a kick in the teeth, my friend.
- 55:39SPEAKER_00: What are we doing?
- 55:40SPEAKER_01: Did you see the petition that's online to sign the to change the to prime time?
- 55:45SPEAKER_00: I just think that's I signed it.
- 55:47SPEAKER_00: I think that's so dumb.
- 55:48SPEAKER_00: They need to take that down.
- 55:49SPEAKER_00: I know.
- 55:51SPEAKER_00: Again, we're just kind of showing our asses a little bit here, Utah.
- 55:54SPEAKER_00: Let's let's not do this.
- 55:55SPEAKER_00: Let's uh you know, let's do it.
- 55:58SPEAKER_01: It's a prime time day on Saturday.
- 56:00SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 56:00SPEAKER_01: It's it's right in the middle of the day.
- 56:02SPEAKER_01: You're on the same time slot as Texas and Ole Miss or whoever.
- 56:06SPEAKER_01: It's not a bad time slot.
- 56:07SPEAKER_01: The problem is 10 o'clock is early.
- 56:10SPEAKER_01: That that is a 12 o'clock stick kick on the east on the east coast.
- 56:14SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 56:15SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 56:15SPEAKER_01: Versus a 10 o'clock kick in Salt Lake City.
- 56:17SPEAKER_01: And and I don't think the time slot is as much of a kick in the face as Utah fans aren't good at showing up for these early games.
- 56:24SPEAKER_01: The last time Texas Tech was here, the game started at guess what time?
- 56:27SPEAKER_00: 10 13.
- 56:28SPEAKER_01: 10 o'clock in the morning.
- 56:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 56:31SPEAKER_01: And and don't get me wrong, the Utes didn't lose because of the time.
- 56:33SPEAKER_01: They lost because Texas Tech was the better team.
- 56:36SPEAKER_01: But you still you want all of those things that play in your favor to be in your favor when you're going against your arch nemesis, arch rival, holy war, game of the year.
- 56:48SPEAKER_01: This one determines the conference.
- 56:50SPEAKER_01: You need this one to be with all the things working in your favor.
- 56:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, funny how even though BYU took a loss, it's still conference.
- 56:57SPEAKER_00: It's still the game with in the conference, right?
- 56:59SPEAKER_00: Like it's still the one that carries the most of the weight there.
- 57:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 57:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
- 57:02SPEAKER_00: I agree with you.
- 57:03SPEAKER_00: I just a position idea, I'm like, I agree, man.
- 57:06SPEAKER_00: Like we're, you know, I think that they need to really kind of put it in a position where, you know, these teams, Utah, BYU, even Colorado, we should own the night in college football on Saturday night.
- 57:16SPEAKER_00: Like that, that should be our message.
- 57:18SPEAKER_00: That should be our drive, right?
- 57:20SPEAKER_00: And the fact that we're not getting that, uh, you know, it just kind of feels like, again, what what is the conference doing, basically?
- 57:25SPEAKER_00: You know, and and where where is the TV money really realizing what they're missing out on?
- 57:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 57:32SPEAKER_00: Uh again, folks, jump in the chat, let us know what your thoughts are.
- 57:34SPEAKER_00: Uh, we'll get to uh your comments here.
- 57:36SPEAKER_00: Let's hit some of those.
- 57:37SPEAKER_00: Uh used McAfee joke video.
- 57:40SPEAKER_00: Uh, joke video was more of a mosquitoast.
- 57:45SPEAKER_00: What does it say?
- 57:46SPEAKER_00: Mosquitoes.
- 57:48SPEAKER_00: Uh, than it was a cougar tail uh covered in with ice cream from BYU Creamery.
- 57:54SPEAKER_00: McAvee shouldn't take off his shirt because his skin is too thin.
- 57:59SPEAKER_00: Dude, that is a great one.
- 58:00SPEAKER_00: That is a great one.
- 58:01SPEAKER_00: You know what I actually love is I love the fact that he starts his show every week with a disclaimer saying that he's gonna be that he doesn't care if he offends somebody, and then he gets offended.
- 58:10SPEAKER_01: Like badly offended.
- 58:12SPEAKER_00: Badly offended by a bunch of 20-year-old college kids, you know.
- 58:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah, tell him not to take his shirt off.
- 58:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then like the Pat McAfee, like, and the the whole thing was give me your best Pat McAfee impression.
- 58:22SPEAKER_01: He's like, he's gonna say something corny like, Houston, you got a problem, give me Utah.
- 58:27SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 58:28SPEAKER_00: I I mean it was kind of corny.
- 58:30SPEAKER_01: It well, I know that would be corny, but that's what they're saying is that's what he's going to do, is say something corny like that.
- 58:35SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, yeah.
- 58:37SPEAKER_00: But they're 20-year-old college kids, yeah.
- 58:39SPEAKER_00: Thin skin, they're just trying to play a little bit of it.
- 58:41SPEAKER_00: You know, was it the best look uh on the youth side?
- 58:44SPEAKER_00: I mean, I honestly I think you could have done better comments.
- 58:46SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm pretty sure they had a lot better.
- 58:48SPEAKER_00: I just think whoever was in charge of that was tired.
- 58:51SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or just didn't know.
- 58:52SPEAKER_00: They're like, get that content out.
- 58:53SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
- 58:54SPEAKER_01: Just put the first five you recorded on there.
- 58:56SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, you know, if you're gonna do live fan reactions in the moment, you know, just go back to one of our previous videos when we talked when we did the uh when we did the live in-person thing of uh the mammoth coming here.
- 59:05SPEAKER_01: We did a that was a good one.
- 59:06SPEAKER_01: That's actually on Utah Mammoth DNA.
- 59:08SPEAKER_00: No, it's actually on this channel.
- 59:09SPEAKER_01: Is it on this one too?
- 59:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's on this channel.
- 59:11SPEAKER_01: Oh heck yeah.
- 59:12SPEAKER_00: Um, I love this one.
- 59:13SPEAKER_00: I don't care about Pat McAvee's publicly at all.
- 59:15SPEAKER_00: Uh Pat McAvee's publicity at all.
- 59:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 59:18SPEAKER_00: Um again, something we wanted to comment on because again, we felt it it warranted something, but I kind of go Utes.
- 59:25SPEAKER_00: I kind of agree with you there.
- 59:26SPEAKER_00: Uh maybe it's poor judgment on the Utes to post McAvee's mock video, uh, but they probably would not have have dreamed that he would call the wind for absolutely true.
- 59:37SPEAKER_00: Like, maybe, yeah, maybe it's not the best video and just kind of like eh content to be putting out there, but yeah, you've got a good point.
- 59:45SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't think anybody would even have seen this if he didn't take offense to it.
- 59:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 59:49SPEAKER_00: It wouldn't have it would be almost lost media in that point.
- 59:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 59:52SPEAKER_00: Um, it's uh it's a good time slot for TV, but it's a bad time slot for everybody in Utah.
- 59:57SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 59:58SPEAKER_00: Yeah, perfectly put, perfectly put.
- 1:00:00SPEAKER_00: Um, couldn't have said it better ourselves.
- 1:00:01SPEAKER_00: And we love that one because we'll take that one as the outro right there.
- 1:00:04SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 1:00:04SPEAKER_00: Um, once again, folks, we want to hear from you.
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- 1:00:14SPEAKER_00: Sorry, in the comments on what you think the score will be this weekend.
- 1:00:17SPEAKER_00: And yeah, let us know what you think about uh Pat McBee's Pat McAvee's reaction.
- 1:00:22SPEAKER_00: Uh what was your reaction to his reaction about uh University of Utah?
- 1:00:26SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you.
- 1:00:26SPEAKER_00: Yep, absolutely.
- 1:00:27SPEAKER_00: All right, let's go ahead and keep it rolling, man.
- 1:00:29SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and talk some ball.
- 1:00:30SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
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- 1:00:53SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and talk some major league baseball here.
- 1:00:55SPEAKER_00: Let's go ahead and give raise our glasses and host to the Milwaukee Brewers for being the 2026 World Series champion.
- 1:01:02SPEAKER_00: Congratulations, Milwaukee.
- 1:01:04SPEAKER_00: Congratulations indeed.
- 1:01:08SPEAKER_00: All right, AJ.
- 1:01:09SPEAKER_00: So what this brought up, man, it brought up an interesting conversation that I think we needed to have when it comes to this.
- 1:01:14SPEAKER_00: Like obviously, the Brewers um, you know, basically kind of tore through this.
- 1:01:18SPEAKER_00: I think they had less losses than the Dodgers had wins in this postseason.
- 1:01:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 1:01:25SPEAKER_00: Which is saying something.
- 1:01:27SPEAKER_00: You know, I think it's really kind of points to the strength that, you know, this Milwaukee Brewers team basically had no problem getting to the World Series and no problem getting through the World Series.
- 1:01:36SPEAKER_00: But that's that second part that I really wanted to kind of focus on.
- 1:01:38SPEAKER_00: Uh so the Brewers are really showing a dominant performance.
- 1:01:41SPEAKER_00: Um, after taking a loss at the Padres, they then won eight straight playoff uh games there, which including a sweep of the World Series favorites by the largest margin in over a decade, by the way, AJ.
- 1:01:52SPEAKER_01: That is wild.
- 1:01:53SPEAKER_00: The Dodgers had the largest margin to win the World Series than any team in over a decade.
- 1:01:59SPEAKER_00: Um, they swept them.
- 1:02:00SPEAKER_00: Um, and that got me thinking, man.
- 1:02:02SPEAKER_00: Uh the Dodgers were 3-0 against the Rays this year.
- 1:02:04SPEAKER_00: The Cubs and Brewers both had winning records against the Rays this year.
- 1:02:08SPEAKER_00: Um, the argument could be made um that the National League isn't just better than the AL, but with how stacked the Dodgers, Phillies, and Padres teams are, and like Cubs, like the Cubs and the Braves have their own style of baseball, and then you have teams like the Brewers who refuse to give up on any play and take every single inch, the diversity of playing styles in the NL creates a champion that's so pretty solid, up that will hold their ground against pretty much any American League team.
- 1:02:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:02:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, absolutely.
- 1:02:42SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think it kind of goes to show you how tough it is to win a major league baseball period, right?
- 1:02:46SPEAKER_01: But specifically the National League.
- 1:02:48SPEAKER_01: I mean, you look at the wild card teams, the Phillies, Braves, Cubs, Padres, all of those teams at one point in the season were the hottest team in baseball.
- 1:02:56SPEAKER_01: Like at some point, that was every single one of them.
- 1:02:59SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, the Braves had a great start, the Cubs got hot in the middle of the season, they looked like they were ready to just roll into the playoffs.
- 1:03:07SPEAKER_01: Uh the Phillies and Padres were both really scary late at the end of the season.
- 1:03:10SPEAKER_01: They were both like, these aren't teams you want to see this at this point in the season, they're just that good.
- 1:03:16SPEAKER_01: Um and then you go for the American League, and it's like the Yankees beat up the Red Sox just to go get swept by the Rays.
- 1:03:25SPEAKER_01: Uh we, you know, we all know the Astros shouldn't have, you know, they had no business in the wild card at all with their record.
- 1:03:30SPEAKER_00: No business in the playoffs, for sure.
- 1:03:31SPEAKER_01: Um and they got beat by the White Sox, who, you know, go into a series with the Guardians.
- 1:03:36SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I mean, the Ale was just it was it was a much easier path to the World Series.
- 1:03:41SPEAKER_00: For sure.
- 1:03:41SPEAKER_01: I I don't think that's that can be argued.
- 1:03:44SPEAKER_01: Um and it's not a take anything from the Rays because they deserve it, right?
- 1:03:47SPEAKER_01: They were they were the best team in the American League all year long, and they absolutely deserve to be in the World Series because they they did, they did a great job.
- 1:03:56SPEAKER_01: They they won like they were supposed to.
- 1:03:58SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I mean the National League is just it's just brutal, man.
- 1:04:02SPEAKER_01: Those teams were so good all the way through all year long.
- 1:04:08SPEAKER_00: No, yeah, I'd have to agree with you, man.
- 1:04:09SPEAKER_00: It's been one kind of a unique situation for when it comes to that on the National League side, seriously because of the sheer differentiating types of teams out there.
- 1:04:17SPEAKER_00: You had your scrappy teams like the Brewers, and there's some other teams in there that had some decent runs in them in the National League that were like the Brewers, uh, that basically just found ways to win games.
- 1:04:27SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think every single one of our favorite teams, my team, your team, and Greg, your team, lost a series to the Rockies this year.
- 1:04:36SPEAKER_00: Like it's just like even like the bottom feeder teams were still figuring out a way to be pesky enough to win a series against you know the elites of the West, you know.
- 1:04:46SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, man, I just think it's interesting.
- 1:04:49SPEAKER_00: Um, obviously, you maybe before, I mean, who would have thought the teams like the Chicago White Sox back to back 100 lost seasons, you know, and then all of a sudden here they are winning a postseason series, yeah, you know, going up against Cleveland, you know, they're always in there.
- 1:05:04SPEAKER_00: Um, it's good to see them get to the American League Championship series.
- 1:05:07SPEAKER_00: But yeah, like you said, just too much of an easy run right to uh right to the World Series for sure.
- 1:05:14SPEAKER_00: Is it that the National League is just that much better, or is it that like they just simply didn't really have to face anybody, and then here comes the World Series, and then all of a sudden they're facing like a real, not necessarily a real team, but you know, a real competitive team that knows how to beat you, right?
- 1:05:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a talented team, absolutely.
- 1:05:31SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I don't know, man.
- 1:05:32SPEAKER_00: I think it's an interesting, interesting take for sure.
- 1:05:35SPEAKER_00: Uh, we want to hear from you folks.
- 1:05:36SPEAKER_00: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
- 1:05:38SPEAKER_00: The brew crew just won.
- 1:05:40SPEAKER_00: And we also have a comment from friend of the channel, Timmy Price.
- 1:05:43SPEAKER_00: Congrats to the Brewers.
- 1:05:44SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, I think it's interesting.
- 1:05:46SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 1:05:46SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you folks, let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
- 1:05:49SPEAKER_00: Um, was this as one sided as it looks?
- 1:05:51SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously all the games were close, but same portion, same same time, it really wasn't all that close, right?
- 1:05:57SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:05:59SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_00: Did you hear about the the Brewer uh the Padres?
- 1:06:02SPEAKER_00: They're actually very disappointed.
- 1:06:03SPEAKER_00: Uh they were actually gonna hang a banner uh in their stadium saying we're the only teams to actually get a game against the Brewers until the Rays beat him in extra innings.
- 1:06:11SPEAKER_01: Oh, dang it.
- 1:06:12SPEAKER_00: You know.
- 1:06:16SPEAKER_01: It's worth it.
- 1:06:18unknown: Yeah.
- 1:06:18SPEAKER_00: Just gotta dunk on the Padres whenever I can.
- 1:06:20SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, Lil Bro down south, you know.
- 1:06:23SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
- 1:06:23SPEAKER_01: Little bro.
- 1:06:24SPEAKER_00: Anyway, man.
- 1:06:25SPEAKER_00: Um interesting, interesting conversation, man.
- 1:06:27SPEAKER_00: Congrats to the Brewers.
- 1:06:28SPEAKER_00: Tip your tip of the DNA sports recap.
- 1:06:30SPEAKER_00: Hat to you guys uh on a great season.
- 1:06:32SPEAKER_00: Um, you know.
- 1:06:33SPEAKER_00: And congratulations, World Series champions.
- 1:06:36SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
- 1:06:37SPEAKER_00: Freeze uh free agency for teams starts tomorrow.
- 1:06:40SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
- 1:06:41SPEAKER_00: You get a five-day period where you get the chance to re-sign your own team, your own players, before uh it opens up to the rest of the market.
- 1:06:48SPEAKER_00: And expect a lot of names to be changing hands, man, because you know, December 1st, it's all over.
- 1:06:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we need to get something going.
- 1:06:56SPEAKER_00: You're gonna see a lot of movement this offseason.
- 1:06:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:06:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah, teams are gonna be trying to line up their rosters really quickly because once they go into lockout, it's there's no there's no discussions, right?
- 1:07:06SPEAKER_01: All the discussions end.
- 1:07:07SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, there's no, yeah, you can't talk to anybody.
- 1:07:09SPEAKER_01: So yeah, so the next thing we wanted to kind of talk about was uh the MLB's proposal to shorten the MLB season.
- 1:07:15SPEAKER_01: Um, this was kind of this was laid out what, a week ago or so?
- 1:07:18SPEAKER_00: A little over a week ago, yeah.
- 1:07:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so the MLB proposed um shortening the regular season from 162 to 154 games starting in 2029 as part of the collective bargaining negotiations with the Major League Baseball Players Association.
- 1:07:33SPEAKER_01: Um this would shorten the regular season, which drops it from 162 to 154 games, which returns to the historical calendar length used from 1904 to 1960.
- 1:07:44SPEAKER_01: Um this would give weekly off days, establishing, you know, Monday as a standard day off for most teams, um, except for the one or two nationally televised games, and then Thursdays would be that off day for those teams that play on Mondays.
- 1:07:56SPEAKER_00: Um which I love.
- 1:07:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then it also has some postseason changes which expands the division series from a best of five to a best of seven series starting in 2029, and it allows higher seeded teams to pick their opponents in the first two rounds.
- 1:08:09SPEAKER_01: You know, for instance, the number three seed picks its wild card opponent, the top seed picks its division series opponent, etc.
- 1:08:15SPEAKER_01: Um But this whole thing is contingent on uh the MLB Players Association accepting a salary cap and floor, salary cap and floor system, which the players union has strongly opposed.
- 1:08:30SPEAKER_01: Um what are your thoughts on this proposal, Darren?
- 1:08:33SPEAKER_00: So I think this kind of goes back to what we talked about before, right?
- 1:08:36SPEAKER_00: I think the Major League Baseball and the ownership group is taking a unique approach this time uh to their collective bargaining when they're weaponizing social media and weaponizing press releases with the Associate Press to put out stuff like, hey, fans, you would love to see this, right?
- 1:08:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you would love to see this.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_00: The only problem is the players won't agree to a salary cap.
- 1:08:55SPEAKER_00: So they're the reason why you don't get that extra added drama of having your team be picked and showing the disrespect uh by having another team saying, Hey, we think we could beat them.
- 1:09:06SPEAKER_01: The players are doing this to you.
- 1:09:07SPEAKER_00: The players are doing this to you.
- 1:09:08SPEAKER_00: We're not the ones doing this to you, which by the way, let's go ahead and talk about that for a second.
- 1:09:13SPEAKER_00: Uh dude, pass.
- 1:09:15SPEAKER_00: I don't want to hear this.
- 1:09:16SPEAKER_00: This sounds so much like a major league, like not a major league baseball thing.
- 1:09:20SPEAKER_00: This sounds like what the ML, like the when the NBA tries to fix the all-star game by having them draft their own teams.
- 1:09:26SPEAKER_00: Try to create some drama around it.
- 1:09:27SPEAKER_00: Who you gonna pick, who you're not gonna pick, and then you have a couple of days of drama talk where you can be like, oh, guess who did this?
- 1:09:33SPEAKER_00: Guess who did this?
- 1:09:34SPEAKER_00: You know, no, I'm sorry.
- 1:09:35SPEAKER_00: This is this is we don't need this.
- 1:09:38SPEAKER_00: This is not our sport, this is not how we do things in baseball.
- 1:09:40SPEAKER_00: You play the team in front of you, hard pass on that one.
- 1:09:44SPEAKER_00: I think that's absolutely ridiculous.
- 1:09:45SPEAKER_00: What they should have done is they should have said automatic reseeding in the playoffs.
- 1:09:50SPEAKER_01: That's exactly what they should have done.
- 1:09:51SPEAKER_00: Because how many times have you been the best team in the league and then you had to face the hottest team in baseball coming into the playoffs who just happened to stumble for a good long time in the middle and just barely got in the playoffs?
- 1:10:01SPEAKER_00: And then you're like, oh my god, we got to face those guys.
- 1:10:03SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 1:10:04SPEAKER_01: You know, automatic reseeding.
- 1:10:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah, automatic reseeding each round.
- 1:10:07SPEAKER_00: I think it's just the right way to go about it.
- 1:10:08SPEAKER_00: You know, that's what you should have put in there because that's what baseball fans actually want.
- 1:10:12SPEAKER_00: None of this casual, you know, BS drama bullshit.
- 1:10:15SPEAKER_00: I just don't think it's necessarily what these teams want.
- 1:10:17SPEAKER_00: Um, and you know, they also want extra off days in between playoff starts, which again ruins some of the strategy of baseball.
- 1:10:24SPEAKER_00: You know, if you add extra days off in a series, then what you're doing, all you're doing there is creating a situation where you're gonna have the Brewers try and throw the Miz three times in a World Series.
- 1:10:33SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 1:10:34SPEAKER_00: Make every ace be Yamamoto.
- 1:10:36SPEAKER_00: You know, it's just not gonna happen.
- 1:10:37SPEAKER_00: You saw what happened to Yamamoto this year.
- 1:10:39SPEAKER_00: He couldn't hold up, dude.
- 1:10:40SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, man.
- 1:10:42SPEAKER_00: I think it's to me, it feels like that's exactly what MLB is doing.
- 1:10:46SPEAKER_00: MLB is trying to um basically what they're saying is this is a chance to improve player health, making the regular season more manageable and creating a more compelling postseason for television audiences.
- 1:10:57SPEAKER_00: The 2029 start date aligns with the beginning of MLB's next national media agreements, because again, all that starts, you know, at that time.
- 1:11:06SPEAKER_00: Um, so again, they can't do anything about that now because there are TV deals that are in place.
- 1:11:11SPEAKER_00: Uh the major catch to this one, however, like you mentioned, is the salary cap.
- 1:11:16SPEAKER_00: So we doubt we're gonna see anything on that.
- 1:11:18SPEAKER_00: Uh 154 game schedule would make sense to improve players' health without, you know, you know, as long as there's not like a reduction in salary, because that's where I think this is also coming from.
- 1:11:28SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 1:11:29SPEAKER_00: If you're not playing 162 games and you're not getting paid as much, you know, I think which has uh some of the backdoor influence on this.
- 1:11:35SPEAKER_01: One of the comments is player-based salaries would not be reduced and bonus option thresholds would be adjusted proportionally.
- 1:11:42SPEAKER_00: Is it that's just what the that's just what it says?
- 1:11:46SPEAKER_00: Uh something telling me that when that actually gets into writing, that's not gonna happen because there's no way that they're gonna be like, oh yeah, sorry.
- 1:11:52SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, I mean, so if they're currently if their current contracts, you know, says that they if they play enough, obviously they're not gonna avoid that, right?
- 1:11:59SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 1:11:59SPEAKER_00: But I I just don't see them, you know, saying, oh, well, you know, we're not playing 162 games anymore.
- 1:12:05SPEAKER_00: Your contracts don't need to be this large.
- 1:12:07SPEAKER_01: You only played 154, your contract was at 155.
- 1:12:11SPEAKER_01: I don't think anything like that.
- 1:12:12SPEAKER_01: It's only 154 available.
- 1:12:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for me, I think it's more the opposite.
- 1:12:16SPEAKER_00: I think like less games, less pay.
- 1:12:19SPEAKER_00: So they're gonna make that argument.
- 1:12:20SPEAKER_00: It's kind of thing.
- 1:12:21SPEAKER_00: Again, for me, this is just deployed uh by MLB to get the fans uh to defend them against the Major League Baseball Players Association, giving the fans something to talk about um, you know, why they really strengthen their position.
- 1:12:34SPEAKER_00: I think that's all this is.
- 1:12:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think I think that's a great I think you're absolutely right.
- 1:12:38SPEAKER_01: I think they're absolutely trying to defend their position and and really turn fans on the players versus the Major League Baseball.
- 1:12:46SPEAKER_01: I I mean I do gotta say, I think Major League Baseball has done a great job the last couple of years making some tweaks to the rules and doing things to make the sport more engaging, right?
- 1:12:55SPEAKER_01: And I think some of this stuff could make the sport more engaging.
- 1:12:58SPEAKER_01: Like, I know you don't like the the higher seeded teams picking their opponents, but it would make the sport more engaging.
- 1:13:05SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 1:13:06SPEAKER_01: Like, and and and I think that's something that they should absolutely pull, right?
- 1:13:10SPEAKER_01: And if and if and if fans would rather see teams just automatically reseeded, that's what they should do.
- 1:13:15SPEAKER_01: And and I think the MLB has done a good enough job that we have faith that they would do the right thing in that scenario.
- 1:13:20SPEAKER_01: Um because everything they've done so far has done a really good job in Major League Baseball, right?
- 1:13:25SPEAKER_01: I mean, the the bigger bases has been great.
- 1:13:27SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, the pitch clock, ABS, all these things have made major league baseball more fun, more engaging.
- 1:13:33SPEAKER_01: Fans like watching baseball more.
- 1:13:34SPEAKER_01: It's the reason it's the highest growing sport in you know professional sports right now.
- 1:13:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 1:13:38SPEAKER_00: Uh overall growth of what four percent each year or something.
- 1:13:43SPEAKER_00: I think it's higher than that.
- 1:13:44SPEAKER_01: It's been crazy.
- 1:13:45SPEAKER_01: I mean, and and and really it's been it's been more fun to watch baseball.
- 1:13:49SPEAKER_01: I've been watching baseball more, and it's like I don't remember it being as fun to watch because the pitch clock is fun.
- 1:13:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, stolen bases are are happening more.
- 1:13:58SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, taking the shift back out of baseball and and ha forcing teams to play traditional baseball again, like all of this stuff that the MLB has done a really good job with.
- 1:14:06SPEAKER_01: Um but I'll I'll be really curious to see how this works out with the major league, you know, with the players association and and if they can get this deal.
- 1:14:14SPEAKER_01: Let's, you know, obviously more coming on it as as we hear more from Major League Baseball.
- 1:14:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think we made the argument pretty well here that on this channel that uh salary cap without it being ridiculously high and with a ridiculously high salary floor probably is not gonna happen.
- 1:14:27SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 1:14:28SPEAKER_00: That's just something they're not gonna allow to have happening because again, they're gonna protect the top earners.
- 1:14:31SPEAKER_00: That's just how this thing's gonna work.
- 1:14:33SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, I'm really interested to see how this is gonna work.
- 1:14:36SPEAKER_00: Um, so we'll definitely see.
- 1:14:38SPEAKER_00: Again, we're less than T minus what?
- 1:14:41SPEAKER_00: 30 days, 30 days until it's official that we'll see a lockout.
- 1:14:47SPEAKER_00: So we'll uh start talking more about that uh going forward here next week.
- 1:14:52SPEAKER_00: We're gonna go ahead and hit our um, you know, what went wrong for our teams.
- 1:14:56SPEAKER_00: Uh, if you are watching on Major League DNA and you want us to do a what went wrong for your team, drop your team down in the comments down below.
- 1:15:03SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are.
- 1:15:04SPEAKER_00: We'd love to hear from you on that one.
- 1:15:06SPEAKER_01: Yep, absolutely.
- 1:15:07SPEAKER_00: Got a comment here from uh friend of the channel, Tammy Bryce.
- 1:15:09SPEAKER_00: I like the automatic uh reseeding, a longer playoffs, uh, no extra days off.
- 1:15:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah, again, the season is already long enough as it is.
- 1:15:16SPEAKER_00: You know, I would really would I would love a World Series champion being crowned before Halloween.
- 1:15:22SPEAKER_00: Like good news.
- 1:15:23SPEAKER_00: Like this, like like it is this year.
- 1:15:25SPEAKER_00: But you know, last couple of years, it's been November 1st, right?
- 1:15:28SPEAKER_00: You know, that we were getting that we're getting you know into November.
- 1:15:31SPEAKER_00: So it's supposed to be called October baseball, not November, mid-December baseball if we keep stretching the playoffs out.
- 1:15:38SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, we want to hear from you folks.
- 1:15:40SPEAKER_00: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
- 1:15:42SPEAKER_00: Um, really appreciate it.
- 1:15:43SPEAKER_00: Thanks for thanks you guys for tuning in for watching Major League DNA.
- 1:15:46SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 1:15:46SPEAKER_01: And if you guys are watching on YouTube, on one of our short videos, just know this is available as a podcast wherever you get your audio.
- 1:15:51SPEAKER_00: With all that said, my name is Darren.
- 1:15:53SPEAKER_00: That is AJ, and this has been an episode of the DNA sports recap.
- 1:15:57SPEAKER_01: Till next time.