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Better Late Than Never With STEPHEN BRODSKY From CAVE IN · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Hey, this is Steven Brodsky from the band Cavin. We are super stoked
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  to tour Australia for the first time with the Ocean and l L R R.
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  So anyone who's planning on coming out to this thing, I'm stoked to
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  see you. We're all stoked to see you and uh yeah, just a
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  few months away now, so very exciting. Hey it is night. Thanks
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  for joining us today, Thank you, thanks for having me. No,
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  I think you should maybe check you calder a bit, Mike, because it's
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  not a couple of months ago. It's only about less than three weeks.
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  What April. It just starts on Jane's Jane. I again, I've got
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  my night's written down here. Wrong, I've got April. But it's Jane,
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  isn't it. You scared me a lot of singing need it is a
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  heart attack. I'm talking during a marathon. I'm like, man, yeah
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  right, And I'm like, I know that there's a date time difference over
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  there. You're not losing a couple of months coming over. Well, now
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  that I've just managed to ruin your morning. Australia with the Ocean in ll
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  Rah in June for Runna shows studying in Brisbane on the fifth, then you
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  go through Newcastle, Canberra, Sydney, Melbourne, finishing Adelaide on the fifth
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  geenth mate, So but what do you are you? Are you a light
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  pack of might a you're going to leave to the last minute jam everything in
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  or you got everything ready ready to go pretty much? Now? Oh oh
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  we haven't even rehearsed as Caven started here. So yeah, there's no way
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  in hell that I would also have my backpack for that. But it was
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  a busy year last year, and I have to say I got pretty quick
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  at doing a last minute pack. In fact, I kind of did one
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  for this recent tour that I went on with my other band, Mutoyd Man.
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  So you know, look, as long as you remember your passport everything
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  else, even if you forget all your underwear, like you know, I'll
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  just I'll just have some some new assy drawers to bring back home to the
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  c As you mentioned it, it's gonna be your first ever tour of this
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  country. So I guess the big question is why have you neglected us for
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  so long? Oh that is a great question. Well, it will be
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  my second time over there. Another band that I play in called Old Man
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  Gloom tour there with Converge about ten years ago. Uh, but yeah,
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  I do remember in my travels with Old Man Gloom and Converge, there are
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  definitely some Caven fans like when you're gonna bring Caven over man, we've been
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  waiting, And I mean that was ten years ago. So you know,
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  sometimes it's just especially with like international tours for bands at our level, uh,
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  to work out something where we're not like just breaking even or like eating
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  it. It's just hard. Those offers don't come our way very often.
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  So we're able to work something out for this one, and we're all very
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  stoked on all the all the logistics and all the all the inner workings of
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  of the offer itself, and it made sense and so yeah, finally doing
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  it, you know, you know, the idea just had to marinate a
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  little bit and really like this point, what about this time is ight?
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  Is it? How are you remembering all the names of these bands that you're
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  in, Like we're only two questions in and you already want ahead with bands,
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  I have the hardest time keeping track, I really do. Yeah,
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  don't even want to talk about scheduling or looking at a calendar like that just
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  makes my eyes go across eyes sometimes, but yeah, you know, but
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  also playing in different bands and kind of mixing it up with different people.
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  It's good for the mind, I think, and you know, we don't
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  get sick of each other as quickly, and like you said, you give
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  into a strya before my but for the rest of the band as a whole,
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  it's gonna be their first on tour and here, like you just do
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  a bit of research on the place first, Like do you talk to people
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  to be here before and ask what to expect or do you just come out
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  of here and wing it and see what happens a little of both, Yeah,
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  I might. You know, well, you've got to research like what
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  the the temperature is going to be like and the weather, because last time
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  I went it was I left, it was an the winter here, so
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  it was like full blown summer in Australia and at the time I was really
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  into watching Downton nabby remember that show. So everyone in down Nabbey is like
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  rolling with these baller pajamas, and I was like, I'm going to get
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  some baller pajamas. So I got these really nice like cotton pajamas, not
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  just bottoms, but I got like button down top and I thought it was
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  super cool with my new baller down nabby pajamas, and I packed those.
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  And I get to Australia and it's like fucking you know, triple digit temperatures
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  and I've got my pajamas on. I'm determined to wear them because I brought
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  them all the way across the pond, you know. But I'm like sweating
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  my ass off, and I'm like, all right, I just had to
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  give up the pajamas. Unfortunately I gave. I gave them a shot,
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  but it was like the probably the stupidest thing I could have packed for a
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  trip, like hie for even trying, mate, that's not a bad effort.
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  Oh and I got a lot of ship from my pajamas. It was.
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  It was the subject of ridicule for the whole tour. I'm just glad
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  he gave everybody something to make fun of. You know. That's the real
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  raison that's made ten years, and it might because it's taking you that long
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  to get over it. Yeah, I still feel the sting a little bit.
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  So I'm getting some big question then there, rod is what can fans
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  expect from Kaivan? Might say? And I haven't seen it here before.
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  Uh not Pajamas, not the Cotton Ones anyway, No Downtown Abbeys. No,
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  that's a great question. I mean I think you know, we we
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  try to do unless it's like a special show, we try to do a
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  pretty well rounded set. We try to represent something from all the different eras
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  of the band. You know, we're like sort of this rock and roll
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  chameleon and we've sort of changed colors and shed skin many times throughout our you
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  know, thirty year I guess career as a band. And yeah, so
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  it you know, really depends on how long we have to play. Like
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  I don't even know what our set length is, so but well it's gonna
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  be all killer, no filler. You know, we're only going to bring
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  the best for our first time in Australia and definitely stuff from the new records.
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  If you don't know Heavy Pendulum, you better start brushing up on that
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  now. And yeah, we're just going to be thrilled to be somewhere new
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  because you know, it's not too often that we get to go to like
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  jit new places and we're all excited for that. Great I guess on the
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  flip side of that, mate, it is like you guys don't really know
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  what to expect from Australian fans, Like we're a bit of a different mob
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  at you. Yeah, yes, I mean I got a taste of it
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  with old Man Gloom ten years ago, but you know, with with Caven,
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  I have no idea and that's that's pretty exciting too. Now you're coming
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  down with the Ocean, who had been here before and label mates with an
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  unpronounceable name l L L or R. So what what makes you three a
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  good touring unit? I guess uh, you know, I think, uh,
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  we've talked about doing stuff with The Ocean in the past, maybe once
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  or twice. I seem to remember, like planning a possible UK run,
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  maybe like twenty years ago or something. But yeah, I think sonically there's
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  there's definitely some crossover. Uh, there's probably crossover with our fans too.
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  I might be getting this wrong, and I'll feel really stupid if I am.
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  But I believe I believe that Caleb Schofield, our former bass player in
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  Cavan, who's unfortunately no longer with us. I believe that he did a
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  guest spot, He did a guest vocal on one of their records. But
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  I could be totally wrong. I could be thinking of another band. So
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  but if I'm right, then there's another connection. You can bet your lot.
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  There's probably thousands of internet trolls out there right now gone is he right?
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  Is he right? Waiting to crucify me if I fuck up? Why
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  throw cotton for jobs at you? When you hit the study bet? Talking
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  about your latest album, which you mentioned came out before, Like, it
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  came out in twenty twenty two, and the album was Heavy Pendulum. So
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  that album that you put that out after being on a bit of a hiatus
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  for a while, and you mentioned caleeb which is part of the reason why
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  you came back. But that album combined elements of everything that you've done before.
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  So they've done a bit of metalcor this and psychedelic sort of rock type
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  thing. Like was that I guess was it a conscious effort to do that?
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  Like? Was it signifying the rebirth of a band in some aspects by
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  putting everything that you've done together before for one record. Yeah, there's probably
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  some of that idea going on moving forward, getting into the whole sort of
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  psyche of why we're doing the band, The fact that we can still do
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  it, which is crazy. But a lot of it has to do with
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  Nate Newton being able and willing to join the band and to be part of
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  the creative process and to really throw himself into it. So yeah, all
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  that plays into it. We also had done quite a bit of touring before
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  we started writing the record, so like, you know, like I was
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  saying earlier, like when we go out and play shows, unless it's something
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  like a special show, we try to sort of pull from different areas of
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  the band and represent it in our set. And so all that was like
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  fresh in our minds when we started writing, Like we were very much in
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  touch with like the best of you know, all the different eras of Caven
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  and so you know, when it went into when we went into writing new
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  stuff, it was easy to like draw up on our own influence, so
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  to speak, like to rip ourselves off. You better put it that way.
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  I mean, there's no better person to rip off than yourself. Really,
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  that's equitt of the year, mate. I'm going to remember that one,
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  all right, Steven. I'd love to keep chatting, mate, but
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  our time together has come to an end of it. Cavin will be hitting
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  Australia in June, not in April, so you can go back to bed
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  for a bit and looking forward to seeing it made up hop along the Brisbane
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  Show and Sila. Oh please do Chris, thanks for your time and we'll
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  see you all very soon