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- 0:01Speaker 1: Time, time, Time to wake up. Infant and Charlotte Mean
- 0:06Speaker 1: the Doctor to Breakfast Club Bitches, the voice of the culture.
- 0:10Speaker 1: People watch The Rereface Club for like news and really
- 0:13Speaker 1: be tuned in. It's one of my favorite shows. You
- 0:15Speaker 1: do just because y'all always keep you one hundred, y'all
- 0:18Speaker 1: keep your real. They might not watch the news, but
- 0:19Speaker 1: they're on Twitter, they're on Facebook, they're you know, they're
- 0:22Speaker 1: listening to The Breakfast Brother. Get your ass up. I'm telling,
- 0:28Speaker 1: I'm telling what you doing. Hol of you. This is
- 0:33Speaker 1: your time to get it off your chest, whether you're
- 0:35Speaker 1: mad or blessed. Eight hundred five eight five one oh
- 0:37Speaker 1: five one. We want to hear from you on the
- 0:39Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? What's up? The via courting
- 0:44Speaker 1: it from Atlanta? What's up? Brother? Charla face King? Get
- 0:47Speaker 1: it off your chest, man, I want to get it
- 0:49Speaker 1: off my chest. Man. I'm picking the Facebook fride, the
- 0:52Speaker 1: Instagram idiot, the Twitter tub man. You can't post your
- 0:56Speaker 1: opinion without somebody trying to count for you or the negative.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Like I'm just over it. Um. People be asking me,
- 1:04Speaker 1: they were like, why won't you get off? But it's
- 1:05Speaker 1: like it's addicting man, I'm a nerd, so it's kind
- 1:09Speaker 1: of hard to like come home from a stressful day
- 1:12Speaker 1: of work and like find something to do. So you
- 1:14Speaker 1: you scroll through social media, but all it is a negativity, man,
- 1:18Speaker 1: Uncle Charlotte, send me fook doctor, I will. I'm gonna
- 1:21Speaker 1: send you the unapologetic guy in the black mental health
- 1:24Speaker 1: out doctor to walk up. I send you a need
- 1:26Speaker 1: a copack shallow water that I send you to Mike
- 1:28Speaker 1: A Mallory state of emergency, and I disagree with you. No,
- 1:32Speaker 1: I'm serious. I'm gonna send it to you. I'm gonna
- 1:34Speaker 1: put you on hold, and I was gonna tell you
- 1:35Speaker 1: that read a book, man, Like we gotta stop being
- 1:37Speaker 1: in abusive relationships with our smart phones, because that's what
- 1:40Speaker 1: it is. We're literally in abusive relationships with our smart
- 1:43Speaker 1: phones and social media. We don't need it. Fact fact fact.
- 1:47Speaker 1: If I can find a way to like get off,
- 1:49Speaker 1: like I would be off forever, like forever. Just find
- 1:51Speaker 1: something else that you're interested in, like Charlemagne said, maybe
- 1:54Speaker 1: it's a book, maybe it's you know, maybe it's on
- 1:56Speaker 1: your phone. But googling things that interest you, you know
- 1:59Speaker 1: what I mean, whether you're into you know, real estate,
- 2:01Speaker 1: or you into cars, or you're into clue. Just get
- 2:05Speaker 1: into something that you're into, you know what I mean.
- 2:06Speaker 1: And it looked those things up like a lot of
- 2:08Speaker 1: times around on a plane or I'm in the airport,
- 2:10Speaker 1: I just look up houses and different markets because I
- 2:12Speaker 1: just like, I like looking at homes, you know, just
- 2:14Speaker 1: just whether I could afford them or not. That's just
- 2:16Speaker 1: something that interests me. And it is a lot of
- 2:18Speaker 1: productive stuff you can watch online. You just gotta curate.
- 2:21Speaker 1: You gotta curate what you're feeding into your mind, that's all.
- 2:23Speaker 1: But hold on, I got your books right here in
- 2:25Speaker 1: my hand. Look I see him. Hello, who's this breakfast? Y'all?
- 2:30Speaker 1: How y'all doing? Hey bro, hey man. I just wanted
- 2:35Speaker 1: to give a big thanks to you every man. I'm
- 2:37Speaker 1: a new listener. I've probably been listening for about a year.
- 2:41Speaker 1: My girl Putty on Game with you guys. I used
- 2:43Speaker 1: to think she was a clown listening to y'all glow
- 2:46Speaker 1: with the clown back in the day. Uh, but I
- 2:49Speaker 1: never actually listened to you guys the show. And someone
- 2:52Speaker 1: I actually listened, I was like, you know what these
- 2:55Speaker 1: people are that they're good people? You guys, You gotta
- 2:57Speaker 1: know what you're doing. And I really appreciate what you
- 2:59Speaker 1: got to do the eavy. Um. I heard you talked
- 3:02Speaker 1: about the credit due of the wild back And at
- 3:04Speaker 1: the same time, I was trying to get everything since
- 3:06Speaker 1: man and I finally hit a month and he got
- 3:09Speaker 1: my stuff straight, myself a new truck. Yeah, he got
- 3:13Speaker 1: my credit right, man, they got my credit right. I'm
- 3:15Speaker 1: still working all the still trying to get up to
- 3:17Speaker 1: that those eighth man, but they got me into the
- 3:20Speaker 1: seven am, the five, and they got me all the
- 3:24Speaker 1: way up. Man. I just bought myself a new truck.
- 3:26Speaker 1: I'm a truck driver out here, worked for FedEx and uh, man,
- 3:30Speaker 1: I'm blessed, highly favored. How take uh eight to nine months? Man.
- 3:39Speaker 1: I had some serious stuff from there that they got
- 3:41Speaker 1: off pretty quick for me. Okay. I was really deprised
- 3:45Speaker 1: how fast they did it, you know, because it was
- 3:46Speaker 1: kind of the slow promises at the beginning. But you know,
- 3:49Speaker 1: as I kept checking and I you know, did the
- 3:51Speaker 1: programs they were talking about it, it was just yeah,
- 3:55Speaker 1: it just shot up instantly. Yeah, and let people know, man,
- 4:00Speaker 1: you know, it's never too late to do what you
- 4:01Speaker 1: need to do. Man. I was a feeling. I'm thirty
- 4:04Speaker 1: three years old. I was getting curved from every job
- 4:07Speaker 1: I tried to get, end up just grabbing getting my CDL,
- 4:11Speaker 1: getting the Class A, and I'm loving life right now.
- 4:14Speaker 1: All right, I think the credit due. I think he's
- 4:16Speaker 1: gonna come up here this week, and I think what
- 4:17Speaker 1: we're gonna do is we're gonna fix I think like
- 4:19Speaker 1: maybe twenty thirty people's credit, just to just on the strength,
- 4:22Speaker 1: just to help people out. I've been recommending him to
- 4:24Speaker 1: everybody I know, man, because he worked wondering. You guys
- 4:28Speaker 1: worked wonder to thank you so much. Yeah. No, he
- 4:30Speaker 1: helped me out so many times. And people don't like
- 4:32Speaker 1: I've met him because he actually helped me fix my credit.
- 4:34Speaker 1: I had something left up on my credit and he
- 4:36Speaker 1: helped me and we just became good friends. Hello, who's
- 4:38Speaker 1: this Jessica from Virginia? Hey, Jessica from VA? What part
- 4:43Speaker 1: of the A? I'm in Arlington. Okay, get it off
- 4:47Speaker 1: your chess, Okay, get it off your chess. So I
- 4:52Speaker 1: am actually blessed, but I'm a little sad because I
- 4:56Speaker 1: listened to you guys every morning live on my way
- 4:59Speaker 1: to work, and basically I told you guys, how I
- 5:02Speaker 1: shot my shot of dramas you shot it down. I
- 5:05Speaker 1: found a black king. Hey, congratulations, job moving to Seattle
- 5:11Speaker 1: to be with my black king. Nice, mamma. Yes, so
- 5:18Speaker 1: I'm very excited. But I just wanted to tell you guys,
- 5:21Speaker 1: thank you so so so much for everything with you,
- 5:23Speaker 1: for the community and and the people that you guys
- 5:27Speaker 1: bring on as far as like information and stuff like that.
- 5:30Speaker 1: You guys are more appreciated than you thinking, you know,
- 5:32Speaker 1: so I just wanted to say thank you. I appreciate you.
- 5:36Speaker 1: You gotta listen to us on the app now, Yeah,
- 5:38Speaker 1: I listen to iHeart. If I do, you missed it
- 5:40Speaker 1: in the morning, so I'm just gonna stick to iHeart. Okay. Well,
- 5:43Speaker 1: thank you, mama, and you have a great trip and
- 5:45Speaker 1: safe ma'am. Thank you, Charla Mane. Can I get a
- 5:49Speaker 1: sign copy of Black Privilege? Please? Absolutely, that's easy. We
- 5:53Speaker 1: put you on hold when we get your address. Hold, no,
- 5:56Speaker 1: hang up, all right, get it off your chess eight
- 5:58Speaker 1: hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you
- 6:00Speaker 1: need to vent, hit this up now. It's the Breakfast Club.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up, wake y'all.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Ass your time to get it off your chest. Your man,
- 6:14Speaker 1: I'm blessed. We want to hear from you on the
- 6:16Speaker 1: breakfast Black, Hello, who's this? Destiny? Was an eye from
- 6:20Speaker 1: the eighth for three eight forty three was happening, Destiny?
- 6:25Speaker 1: Get it off your chest, Mama. I just wanted to
- 6:27Speaker 1: call us say that I am blessing how he favored? Nope,
- 6:30Speaker 1: you blessed Black and Holly Favorite. You're right about that. Um.
- 6:35Speaker 1: I just hit thirty this year, and I'm really starting
- 6:38Speaker 1: to see what Mary Jake Blige and you know Javo
- 6:43Speaker 1: we're talking about in that song Rainy Days, And even
- 6:46Speaker 1: on the rainy days, I walk out the house with
- 6:48Speaker 1: us knock on my face and I know that God's
- 6:51Speaker 1: got there. You go, thank and Charlot sometimes man, Nope,
- 6:57Speaker 1: we love you, but you didn't till sometimes off the chaparlo.
- 7:00Speaker 1: So why would I listen to? Why? Why? Why would
- 7:01Speaker 1: I chill them? I'm gonna always be me and and
- 7:05Speaker 1: you know how you say when you leave the house
- 7:07Speaker 1: is gonna be those rainy days. One thing about me,
- 7:09Speaker 1: I'm gonna always be me, the so called good, so
- 7:12Speaker 1: called bad, so called ugly. Every day. Well, I'll definitely
- 7:16Speaker 1: tune in the watching United fan. Hey, there you go.
- 7:19Speaker 1: The God's Done is True from Comedy Central. But thank you, mom.
- 7:22Speaker 1: You have a great weekend. Hello. Who's this this? Mo? Mo?
- 7:26Speaker 1: What up? Getting off? Chu? Bro? Yeah? Hey, I just
- 7:29Speaker 1: want to shout out my queens h Instagram page. Real
- 7:32Speaker 1: Quick is Avayance Creation a U d I A NT Creation.
- 7:38Speaker 1: She's h Detroit based photographer the basic Detroit Man. I
- 7:42Speaker 1: swear anything you need, you got it, Uh, Angela yee.
- 7:46Speaker 1: I just want to ask for a favorite's possible. Okay
- 7:49Speaker 1: we come. We're coming up on a year and she's
- 7:51Speaker 1: a big fan, and I just wanted to know if
- 7:54Speaker 1: you had any like available time being like dude, a
- 7:57Speaker 1: photos shot with or something. You know what I'm saying,
- 7:59Speaker 1: Like this ever years from me to hub. You know
- 8:01Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It is possible when I'm in Detroit.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Yeah when he whenever you're in Detroit, if you have time, Okay,
- 8:08Speaker 1: Yeah that I could use that too. That'd be nice. Yeah,
- 8:11Speaker 1: so awesome. I just want to thank God. My grandma
- 8:15Speaker 1: just came home from having cold. Wow. I mean that's
- 8:21Speaker 1: the blessing. All right, brother, have a good weekend. Get
- 8:25Speaker 1: it off your chest. I said he loved his girl.
- 8:28Speaker 1: I love to see it absolutely eight hundred five eight five,
- 8:31Speaker 1: one oh five one, get it off your chest. It's
- 8:32Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Go Morning, the Breakfast Club. Wait that
- 8:39Speaker 1: up in the morning. Check out this breakfast club. We
- 8:42Speaker 1: want morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy.
- 8:47Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
- 8:49Speaker 1: in the building. That's right, Posh Shasty not a new
- 8:55Speaker 1: project got the day called Shafety season. This is your
- 8:58Speaker 1: first project, right for so my first one album? What
- 9:01Speaker 1: it is? This a mixtape? Is it's an album? Is
- 9:02Speaker 1: it's an ep a mixtape? Mixtape? Now? For people that
- 9:06Speaker 1: don't know you from Memphis? Yo, salth Mivin and you
- 9:09Speaker 1: signed with Gucci Walk Big Walk. How did that? How
- 9:12Speaker 1: did that come about? Mine? U me in the bid
- 9:15Speaker 1: my middle of the night. One day, he takes me
- 9:19Speaker 1: on Instagram? Did you believe it? Did you think it was?
- 9:21Speaker 1: It was? It was a lie. I couldn't believe it
- 9:26Speaker 1: 'm that last year? So he just sent you a DM. Yeah,
- 9:31Speaker 1: he takes me, said, what's up home? I couldn't believe.
- 9:34Speaker 1: I grabbed my phone, get up, push something out of
- 9:37Speaker 1: the real takes him back. I say, what's chopping? He
- 9:42Speaker 1: takes back right there in and there like he was owning.
- 9:45Speaker 1: He was waiting on me to tip back. You're like,
- 9:48Speaker 1: I'm talking with your mirrors home. Who are you doing
- 9:50Speaker 1: this with? I put my clothes on shoot to shoot
- 9:53Speaker 1: the pops out. Then my managers I waken to wake
- 9:57Speaker 1: up A look I showed him. Couldn't believe he get
- 10:01Speaker 1: the Swain right. Then another though, why I'm showing him?
- 10:03Speaker 1: He takes back, He said, it did my number fade
- 10:06Speaker 1: time a fade timing right. Third, we was on fade
- 10:08Speaker 1: time for like six hours. It was already like three
- 10:12Speaker 1: in the morning. Though, he just said, look on face
- 10:15Speaker 1: time before we continue that story. Whoever that woman was
- 10:18Speaker 1: in the bed with you gonna be mad that you
- 10:19Speaker 1: just referred to her as somebody somewhere. Now what you're
- 10:28Speaker 1: being for Memphis? Did Dolf or gott he reached out
- 10:32Speaker 1: with since since they both from the same areas, or yeah,
- 10:36Speaker 1: for sure, but you never wanted to sign with that
- 10:37Speaker 1: or they just never offered a deal, or just wasn't
- 10:39Speaker 1: the right situation, Like I ain't gonna lie, I ain't
- 10:42Speaker 1: known wanted to sign a no better then Joe. My
- 10:44Speaker 1: mentality you know in the city is like you gotta
- 10:47Speaker 1: sign to either one of them. You gotta be paper
- 10:50Speaker 1: out of sEMG. So before Walcome came out, I'm still
- 10:54Speaker 1: Chopper guind this is my lab. So I wanted to
- 10:57Speaker 1: be like, why you can't be signed a Chopper game?
- 10:59Speaker 1: Seeing your paper rout? Then Walk can't bone perfect sing?
- 11:03Speaker 1: You know I got you. I always wonder how Gucci
- 11:05Speaker 1: Man discovers talent, like what did he hit? What did
- 11:07Speaker 1: he hero rs? It's a genius, he a genius. But
- 11:10Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what a song he heard of
- 11:12Speaker 1: the show Mine ain't Slim Mine Slim did it for
- 11:16Speaker 1: him and that was the only song he heard. He
- 11:19Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, South, When did you finally meet
- 11:23Speaker 1: him in person? Did he did you? Did you fly
- 11:25Speaker 1: to a land or did he come out to Memphish
- 11:26Speaker 1: or we flew to Alan. It was like I got
- 11:30Speaker 1: signed throing COVID so it ain't locked down and shut
- 11:34Speaker 1: down and thin over over the phone. So yeah, did
- 11:37Speaker 1: you did the deal over the phone? Didn't meet him
- 11:39Speaker 1: in person? Just no, I didn't do the deal and
- 11:43Speaker 1: over the phone, Like I was signed a week before
- 11:45Speaker 1: I had to pop out like with it. No, I
- 11:48Speaker 1: had to hold it in. It's hard, it's a walk. Yeah,
- 11:51Speaker 1: I still problem to like my mom was something, well,
- 11:55Speaker 1: she gonna tell them hold SI. A lot of folks
- 11:57Speaker 1: in our days want to stay indie. What made you say?
- 12:00Speaker 1: You know what? Now, I'm gonna do the ten seventeen
- 12:01Speaker 1: Atlantic thing right perfect since and they ain't ain't coming
- 12:06Speaker 1: at me on the BS and and you know what
- 12:08Speaker 1: I'm saying. So when they did, then I like, I
- 12:11Speaker 1: ain't genuine what I really wanted to see me win it? Man?
- 12:16Speaker 1: When did you realize that it was taking off? When
- 12:18Speaker 1: your popularity before you did the deal with w When
- 12:20Speaker 1: did you realize it was taking off? With it? One day?
- 12:22Speaker 1: You walking into malling, people be like, yo, I know
- 12:24Speaker 1: who you are? Was it your mama heard the rector
- 12:27Speaker 1: one time? But when did you realize, like yo, it
- 12:29Speaker 1: was like out of her, out of her? Yeah, I
- 12:31Speaker 1: ain't gonna laugh. My first song to see it start
- 12:33Speaker 1: off for a verse. I did my first verse on
- 12:36Speaker 1: it own breaking news with me and the game trouble Gun.
- 12:39Speaker 1: Then verse on ther went viral. They were like who
- 12:43Speaker 1: it did? Dude? It was like I couldn't like step
- 12:45Speaker 1: out the gate or none no more for Ryan pay All.
- 12:47Speaker 1: This it was real then, but when I knew it
- 12:52Speaker 1: took out when they hit the radios. So I got
- 12:54Speaker 1: put on you from guard up because I was listening
- 12:56Speaker 1: to the new title playlist and that got up so hard.
- 13:00Speaker 1: I just went down this pool shicey rabbit hole and
- 13:02Speaker 1: I'm just like, man, this dude is dope. And then
- 13:04Speaker 1: it started ding on me. Oh he went Gucci, so
- 13:06Speaker 1: it then it started to make sense. You used to
- 13:08Speaker 1: play ball with him, I know how, you know how? Yeah,
- 13:11Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want them. I want them to
- 13:13Speaker 1: play the coach miss with but can't make the team
- 13:17Speaker 1: that I got here used me for practice, getting the showing.
- 13:23Speaker 1: They need an inscre man, but I ain't even on
- 13:25Speaker 1: the team or nothing. Well, wasn't to the locker room
- 13:27Speaker 1: because of behavior or something. Behavior, couldn't get no physicals, Yeah,
- 13:32Speaker 1: but got the talent for show. That's how it was
- 13:34Speaker 1: when me. I used to want to play sports, but
- 13:35Speaker 1: I couldn't. I was always suspended in all types of stupid.
- 13:38Speaker 1: And I've seen when you opposed me though, like oh
- 13:40Speaker 1: like big shout him. I don't like nobody The Breakfast
- 13:47Speaker 1: Club if you missed the Breakfast Club, you don't coo
- 13:52Speaker 1: from my world. It's dangerous. Check out this rewind. Yeah,
- 13:55Speaker 1: it's the world most dangerous Morning to show The Breakfast Club.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Charlemagne and God Angela, Ye dj Envy, and we got
- 14:00Speaker 1: my man Pooh Shicety here Pooh Shitsky as a new
- 14:02Speaker 1: artist out of Memphis. He signed the ten seventeen Atlantic Records.
- 14:06Speaker 1: He's got a project out right now called Shisty Season.
- 14:09Speaker 1: And you got a question, do you still in Memphis
- 14:12Speaker 1: or you decided to boot to Atlantic? Because I see
- 14:13Speaker 1: Atlanta is everything. Atlanta is open, Atlanta is the music scene.
- 14:16Speaker 1: You run in the audi, in the studio. Huh yeah
- 14:19Speaker 1: for show. I'm in a move for show, but I
- 14:21Speaker 1: would be whoever. I feel like I go to them too.
- 14:24Speaker 1: You feel like memphisis is as united as it should
- 14:26Speaker 1: be at all. I know, man, Memphis are like for united.
- 14:31Speaker 1: You can use Alouna for example, Memphis Now, I won't
- 14:35Speaker 1: see nobody to win. I'm gonna pull you now something
- 14:38Speaker 1: type of way. Try to tempt someone on, you, try
- 14:41Speaker 1: to take something. It just Memphis. They hate too because
- 14:44Speaker 1: of that. Why not just stay out the city for
- 14:46Speaker 1: a while. They beat how they feel the or the folks.
- 14:49Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do me like it's up to me now,
- 14:52Speaker 1: like it's in my hand I can bring make it
- 14:54Speaker 1: like alouna that there's how I feel I could be
- 14:57Speaker 1: the big brother stars on the pun. It's like if
- 15:00Speaker 1: if if Memphis was united, y'all would easily be that
- 15:03Speaker 1: next city from the South with all the talent coming
- 15:06Speaker 1: from that talent too much time. So so what do
- 15:09Speaker 1: you think it if the ogs didn't embrace the youngsters?
- 15:11Speaker 1: What was it? I don't I don't get it. Be
- 15:13Speaker 1: there like folks be having the feeling I don't want
- 15:15Speaker 1: no about to pass them or something I don't incur,
- 15:19Speaker 1: Like as long as you know what I'm saying, pay
- 15:21Speaker 1: your homage and do right, keep it. You know what
- 15:23Speaker 1: I'm saying, keep a little chick like I don't to
- 15:26Speaker 1: speak none of this sucker stuff. Now it's more dangerous
- 15:30Speaker 1: to be a rapper or a screet the lad through year.
- 15:34Speaker 1: Rappers ain't bad to year. I ain't gonna couple here.
- 15:37Speaker 1: They've been going at the rapper. Is it because the
- 15:39Speaker 1: money makes you a target? The fame was like the
- 15:42Speaker 1: screets the rap Now then the folk internet. They're gonna
- 15:46Speaker 1: do the police jobs. So if it wasn't a rap,
- 15:50Speaker 1: what you think you'd be into legal, I'll be put up.
- 15:54Speaker 1: I won't even be here. So yeah, how proudly is
- 15:58Speaker 1: your mom right now? They're seeing everything that you've been through. Man,
- 16:01Speaker 1: she's my mom one. She's very proud. Big shout out
- 16:04Speaker 1: of them all, dudes. I wish she could be. She
- 16:07Speaker 1: loves you too, been watched you year. I know about
- 16:11Speaker 1: you through my mom. I appreciate that ski mask talking
- 16:18Speaker 1: about bad you know? Also what you know better? You
- 16:21Speaker 1: can't slide with that, but you see it, batter, it's
- 16:27Speaker 1: a man we don't know, all right. I gotta get
- 16:30Speaker 1: you run now. Also with um, what's the first thing
- 16:33Speaker 1: you bought when you made money? And what's the first
- 16:34Speaker 1: thing you bought your mom? No? I bought my mama
- 16:37Speaker 1: cough first, what kind of car fandom? Infinity? Infinity? No,
- 16:42Speaker 1: this is the first one. No, she's gonna do it big,
- 16:45Speaker 1: but I had to give us a what's the first
- 16:49Speaker 1: thing you bought yourself? Your biggest purchase so far being
- 16:52Speaker 1: truck man? You gotta buy churches, man, you got to Yeah,
- 16:57Speaker 1: I got asa franchise your own churches that would be though,
- 17:00Speaker 1: push shat on some churches because they need all the
- 17:03Speaker 1: all churches needs a rebrand. They might need to reach
- 17:05Speaker 1: out O see that in church and keep it. I've
- 17:09Speaker 1: been saying churches come in on fold stuff and then
- 17:12Speaker 1: churches tapping in big shots. You're gonna shoot the video
- 17:16Speaker 1: at the churches with my shirt off. Absolutely well, Po Shay.
- 17:23Speaker 1: We appreciate you for joining, and we promised we were
- 17:26Speaker 1: gonna bring a lot of new artists up in here,
- 17:28Speaker 1: new artists that are moving the culture. And when this
- 17:30Speaker 1: fifty year old man came in here with a ski
- 17:32Speaker 1: mask on, pointing his finger guns at me, it was like,
- 17:34Speaker 1: it's tongue. It means yeah, because we I mean, listen,
- 17:37Speaker 1: we've been doing this for a wild ten years and
- 17:39Speaker 1: like we've seen a lot of like we saw the
- 17:41Speaker 1: Megals early on, we saw a little baby early on.
- 17:44Speaker 1: And I feel like you got that same thing. Absolutely,
- 17:47Speaker 1: you know what I mean, appreciate that. I think Pu
- 17:50Speaker 1: Shaty gonna be a star star. And you said, like
- 17:52Speaker 1: when you felt that, you said, at all the top
- 17:54Speaker 1: mean older than you know what I'm saying, Not for what, dude,
- 17:58Speaker 1: not I suck. I appreciate that and tell you mom,
- 18:01Speaker 1: I said peace, We appreciate it. What's her name, Miss
- 18:03Speaker 1: glad Miss Gladys, Miss Gladys. All right, oh well it's
- 18:07Speaker 1: pool Shasty, not na pool. You know we ain't come
- 18:09Speaker 1: up here, you know we don't. We've been at home,
- 18:10Speaker 1: so we came up here for you now. Want you
- 18:12Speaker 1: to know that, so you know it's it's serious. Maybe
- 18:14Speaker 1: wishing the best of luck and hopefully we'll see you
- 18:15Speaker 1: again up here. Well, all right, it's pool shicsty. It's
- 18:19Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wait, wait up, wake up,
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- 18:47Speaker 1: slash envy. It's topic time called eight hundred and five
- 18:57Speaker 1: eight five one oh five? Want to join it to
- 18:59Speaker 1: the discussion with the breakfast club? Talk about it? Morning,
- 19:03Speaker 1: Everybody's stej envy, angela Yee Charlemagne the guy. We are
- 19:07Speaker 1: the breakfast club. Now if you just joined as Charlemagne
- 19:10Speaker 1: came to work this morning a little um under the influence, Yeah,
- 19:15Speaker 1: under the under the influence of country rap tunbs. Okay,
- 19:19Speaker 1: I deserve to be in breakfast club court this morning.
- 19:21Speaker 1: I feel stupid. I've been in here gang banging on
- 19:25Speaker 1: the radio and I just feel like I'm too old
- 19:27Speaker 1: and still be influenced by music. And I promise you
- 19:29Speaker 1: it literally was the New South Playlist on title listening
- 19:33Speaker 1: to stuff like key Glock off the Porch and my
- 19:35Speaker 1: Man Little Boss I Know It and you know, pooh
- 19:39Speaker 1: shicety guard up. It really really, really really took me
- 19:43Speaker 1: to a place that I absolutely enjoy. Yeah. So so
- 19:47Speaker 1: we're asking if Charlemagne, are we all too old to
- 19:50Speaker 1: be h influenced by music right now? I don't think so. Bro,
- 19:54Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I really don't. And I
- 19:56Speaker 1: have no reason for saying that other than I just
- 19:59Speaker 1: really enjoy it. Are we going through a middle life practice?
- 20:01Speaker 1: I don't think so. Still. You know, like Charlomagne, you
- 20:04Speaker 1: have a ski mask drinking drinking Starbucks, Like, what is that?
- 20:09Speaker 1: It's called balance? Is that a boogie gangsterf like what
- 20:12Speaker 1: it's called. Balance, think it's game. Bankers don't need caffeine.
- 20:15Speaker 1: I don't know you need energy to do a drive
- 20:17Speaker 1: by too. Okay, you think I have to put money
- 20:19Speaker 1: on people's head without uh, you know, a little lot tepe? Okay? Hello?
- 20:23Speaker 1: Who's this? This is hey Virginia. You know you know
- 20:26Speaker 1: your boy's up here with a ski mask on, drinking
- 20:28Speaker 1: a latte. I love it with a pinky in the
- 20:31Speaker 1: It's a little weird. We have to listen, we have
- 20:35Speaker 1: to do I'm for three. I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. Hey,
- 20:38Speaker 1: I'll be in my car sometimes. You know, I could
- 20:42Speaker 1: be a bug, I could be a seeheart. But listen, Charlomagne,
- 20:46Speaker 1: keep doing it. Thank you, baby, That's what I'm talking about.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Jackie Killed, Florida. Hello, who's this? This guy's crazy? Hey, John,
- 20:57Speaker 1: what are you calling from Florida? You know what, I
- 21:00Speaker 1: don't think it's a good thing when you got a
- 21:01Speaker 1: bunch of Florida people of jo John Charlotta Mane has
- 21:04Speaker 1: a ski mask on on right now, he's drinking a
- 21:05Speaker 1: Lotte with his pinky in the finger. I don't know
- 21:09Speaker 1: what he wants to do. With that pinky. I don't
- 21:11Speaker 1: I don't know, but but you think his ass is
- 21:13Speaker 1: too old fallers, man, sit your old ass down somewhere. Man.
- 21:18Speaker 1: How old are you, sir? I'm thirty three? Oh you're
- 21:21Speaker 1: thirty three. Okay, you're still living out your old wild
- 21:23Speaker 1: out days. You're still cheating on your girl? Did that?
- 21:25Speaker 1: I did that when I was swing. I got arrested
- 21:27Speaker 1: four times one year. Congratulations. What was the biggest charge?
- 21:31Speaker 1: The biggest one was a home invasion. What music were
- 21:34Speaker 1: you listening to when you did that home invasion for Florida? Man,
- 21:37Speaker 1: I listened kind of stuff man, y'all, I don't even
- 21:40Speaker 1: know applies, Okay, you know, probably Kodak. Now that was
- 21:44Speaker 1: that was a while ago. That was a while ago.
- 21:46Speaker 1: All right, go that's the middle school that is. But
- 21:47Speaker 1: you got your life together now, Yeah, definitely definitely that
- 21:51Speaker 1: you got a family. Man, You're right that think, brother,
- 21:53Speaker 1: thank you? You know what you got that when you
- 21:55Speaker 1: say that once you once you see that, once you
- 21:57Speaker 1: add that you got a family. That's like when a
- 21:59Speaker 1: game banging, say on God and them he gonna do
- 22:02Speaker 1: something to you want Somebody tell you, sit y'all out there,
- 22:05Speaker 1: you got a family. That's when you get back through reality.
- 22:07Speaker 1: He right, Hello, rests Christian out of Fully, Hey, Christian
- 22:11Speaker 1: out of Philly. Good morning Christian. Now Now, Charlotmagne is
- 22:14Speaker 1: asked too old to be wilding out to this music. Now,
- 22:17Speaker 1: I don't know that's what you're supposed to be doing. Listen.
- 22:19Speaker 1: It's balance of life. It's the yang and the yang,
- 22:21Speaker 1: It's the drug deal and a professional because every morning
- 22:23Speaker 1: I'm listening to King King Vod. I'm from Fully and
- 22:25Speaker 1: I'm not from sixty third. I do that every morning
- 22:29Speaker 1: and then not do my professional nine to five. And
- 22:31Speaker 1: when I come home it's neck to Jason and Sulliman
- 22:33Speaker 1: and all of that. So you need balance, a balance.
- 22:35Speaker 1: I agree with you. Ratchetness and righteousness is the right exactly.
- 22:40Speaker 1: I'm with you with music too. I'm with you because
- 22:44Speaker 1: because I did the same thing. I woke up this morning.
- 22:46Speaker 1: I meditated, I had my beads in my hand, I
- 22:48Speaker 1: was doing my mantras, and then I'm going to therapy
- 22:50Speaker 1: at three o'clock. But when I was driving in the work,
- 22:52Speaker 1: it was them country rap tunes. Bro Listen, We're moving weight,
- 22:56Speaker 1: were moving away, my God, really work all up and
- 23:01Speaker 1: down ninety five. We got our world one page and
- 23:07Speaker 1: ways we are professionals with our parents, we have our pta.
- 23:10Speaker 1: They love us, but we turned up. That's what you
- 23:12Speaker 1: gotta do with you. You sell Joe, you sell drugs
- 23:15Speaker 1: in the morning hair for me. Oh that's right. She's
- 23:21Speaker 1: representing for all the people out there who still want
- 23:24Speaker 1: to do the bust of challenge. But that needs not
- 23:26Speaker 1: what they used to be. But we outchair babies because
- 23:28Speaker 1: I'm a mama and I'm not posting it. Hey, let's
- 23:33Speaker 1: go hello, who's this yo? This kid is Amarcosol game
- 23:37Speaker 1: game Bro? What's up? Bro? How old are you? Kid?
- 23:43Speaker 1: Brokay bank that see y'all day. I'll bang that see
- 23:46Speaker 1: y'a all day. I don't even know what that means.
- 23:49Speaker 1: What's that mean? That's that's Christ Christ with that. I
- 23:54Speaker 1: thought the seeds for christy all day. So when you're
- 23:56Speaker 1: banging the Christ, when you're throwing up that, that seat
- 23:59Speaker 1: for rice. Hey, sou's gang. What do you listen to?
- 24:02Speaker 1: I listened to I ain't gonna lie, young thug whole lie.
- 24:07Speaker 1: I listen to Drake. I listen know, I ain't gonna lie.
- 24:10Speaker 1: You know I told some uh I told some ya
- 24:14Speaker 1: Adams maybe and there I like the balance. I love
- 24:16Speaker 1: the balance, King from young Thug to Orlanda Adams, I
- 24:19Speaker 1: love the balance. Now you're you know you got to
- 24:23Speaker 1: You're twenty nine. Charlemagne forty two. Charlotmaye be banging out
- 24:28Speaker 1: this every morning. Yeah he can. He can have a balance,
- 24:31Speaker 1: but he can bang right to bang left. That's right,
- 24:33Speaker 1: the middle, right, right middle. Yo can tell his daughters, Yo,
- 24:39Speaker 1: kid clean kitchen. That's right on this on the set,
- 24:44Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, on the set. You better have that
- 24:46Speaker 1: kitchen clean. Hello? Who's this? Yes? Hi? Right? Listen this
- 24:51Speaker 1: from the doub Bill in Ohio. Now, and Charlomagne too,
- 24:54Speaker 1: only be gang gang in this morning. I have to
- 24:57Speaker 1: second emotion, yes, but I have to add myself puts too.
- 25:01Speaker 1: I'll be thinking I'm just ratchet. You talk about Luda
- 25:04Speaker 1: Pete popping. Oh my god, I'm thirty three years out
- 25:06Speaker 1: with two kids that I have, me going. I ain't
- 25:08Speaker 1: never peep talking about life, but I can't work talking
- 25:11Speaker 1: about Gucci and Jesus. I'll be talking about shoot somebody
- 25:14Speaker 1: when I'm mak thirteen years off. No, yes, you do
- 25:18Speaker 1: have no moments. They do influencio. Now, listen, Jeez and Gucci,
- 25:21Speaker 1: that was our era. We were still in our old
- 25:23Speaker 1: wild out days when they was in their prime. These
- 25:25Speaker 1: new these, these new Negroes different, these new Negroes to
- 25:28Speaker 1: take you someplace even further. And Jez and Gucci then
- 25:32Speaker 1: did don't telling you they didn't have you literally and
- 25:35Speaker 1: don't you and don't act like you ain't never did
- 25:38Speaker 1: no people up because you said you got three kids. Okay, honey,
- 25:41Speaker 1: I got to and I have, but I don't know
- 25:43Speaker 1: how to do it on my hand stand. Clearly didn't
- 25:45Speaker 1: know how to do something. That man whoever was then
- 25:48Speaker 1: baby daddies you got to do influent. They're doing fluent.
- 25:52Speaker 1: And I have my ratchet moments too, when I've been
- 25:54Speaker 1: a bust for eight years. The them, them baby daddies,
- 25:59Speaker 1: you got release their ancestors in you for a reason.
- 26:02Speaker 1: You know how to pepop something on something? Honey. Yes
- 26:05Speaker 1: we're not on the handstand right, but on a back
- 26:07Speaker 1: dad answer, Okay, all right, I'm telling you all right, Well,
- 26:12Speaker 1: don't move. Happy Holidays. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
- 26:16Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee Charlemagne,
- 26:23Speaker 1: the guy we are the Breakfast Club now Charlemagne. Yesterday
- 26:27Speaker 1: got a chance to talk with Travis Scott. Yeah, this
- 26:30Speaker 1: happened on This happened, just happened on Wednesday. You know,
- 26:33Speaker 1: I got a couple of calls from a few folks
- 26:35Speaker 1: and they were like, you know, Travis Scott, you know,
- 26:37Speaker 1: wants to sit and have a conversation with you, you you know,
- 26:40Speaker 1: to discuss the tragedy that happened on November fifth at
- 26:43Speaker 1: after World in Houston, Texas. And that's what we did.
- 26:46Speaker 1: And also how he wants to, you know, help make
- 26:48Speaker 1: sure this this never happens again. All right, Well we're
- 26:51Speaker 1: gonna get into that next and we're gonna take your
- 26:53Speaker 1: calls after this too. So let's listen as a community,
- 26:56Speaker 1: and you got questions, whatever you feel like you want
- 26:58Speaker 1: to talk about after this interview, you can call us up.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one, Ladies
- 27:03Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Travis Scott, Travis Scott, what's up? Brother? What
- 27:07Speaker 1: to do? How you feeling? Uh? You know I've been
- 27:11Speaker 1: on about like a different type of like emotions, you know,
- 27:14Speaker 1: emotional roller coaster. I mean, um, it gets so hard
- 27:19Speaker 1: because I always felt like connected with my fans, and
- 27:24Speaker 1: you know, I went through something, you know, and I
- 27:25Speaker 1: feel like fans went through something and people's parents would
- 27:28Speaker 1: do something, and you know it really, you know, it hurts.
- 27:31Speaker 1: It hurts the community her to a city and it's
- 27:35Speaker 1: just been a lot of thoughts, you know, a lot
- 27:36Speaker 1: of feelings, a lot of grieving and just you know,
- 27:40Speaker 1: trying to get you wrapped my head around it. You know.
- 27:44Speaker 1: I really just really wanted to be there and just
- 27:47Speaker 1: you know, wish you can just kind of like hold everyone,
- 27:49Speaker 1: you know, um, kind of just healed them, talk to them.
- 27:53Speaker 1: I have conversations, you know. It just it just you know,
- 27:58Speaker 1: it really just hurts me. What's your what's your intention
- 28:02Speaker 1: with this conversation, Like like what do you hope to
- 28:05Speaker 1: get out of this or what do you hope to
- 28:06Speaker 1: get out I don't personally have an intention. I just
- 28:09Speaker 1: feel like something happened and I feel like it's just
- 28:14Speaker 1: I needed just a way to kind of like communicate,
- 28:16Speaker 1: you know, the families are grieving, you know, as fans
- 28:20Speaker 1: that experienced something, as fans that came to a show,
- 28:24Speaker 1: you know, and I feel like I just have like
- 28:26Speaker 1: a I've always been that person to always see things
- 28:30Speaker 1: through the people that shared experiences with me, and you know,
- 28:35Speaker 1: it's just things happening, you know, I just kind of
- 28:38Speaker 1: you know, it's been such a such a time and
- 28:41Speaker 1: I've just been trying to just really figure things out.
- 28:45Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure you experiencing remorse, But was there
- 28:49Speaker 1: any hesitation to have this conversation because of the litigation
- 28:53Speaker 1: you may be facing. Well, I mean, yeah, of course
- 28:57Speaker 1: you got people. It's just like, oh, like you know,
- 29:00Speaker 1: but it's not about that, you know, your artists, you
- 29:04Speaker 1: whoever people think you are. About the end of the day,
- 29:06Speaker 1: You're a human being. You know, you have emotions, Um
- 29:09Speaker 1: you want to communicate them emotions, you know, and trying
- 29:12Speaker 1: to find the best way to communicate. How have you
- 29:14Speaker 1: been coping with the aftermath of everything? Just just just emotionally,
- 29:18Speaker 1: just you as a human. I've been just in a
- 29:21Speaker 1: room for a while, you know, a lot of thoughts
- 29:23Speaker 1: and luckily, you know, you have people around that you
- 29:28Speaker 1: kind of outside ideas. But it just been you know,
- 29:30Speaker 1: I've been doing this for such a long time, and
- 29:34Speaker 1: you know, you nothing like this ever happened, you know,
- 29:37Speaker 1: so it just kind of like you just kind of
- 29:39Speaker 1: figuring out and at the end of the day, like
- 29:41Speaker 1: these fans of your family, so you just feel like
- 29:43Speaker 1: you lost lost something and you just like you go,
- 29:47Speaker 1: you do these shows honestly to you know, for people
- 29:50Speaker 1: to have the best experience, you know, and just to
- 29:52Speaker 1: think to something like this happened. You just trying to
- 29:54Speaker 1: figure out you know, you know, just wrap everything around.
- 29:58Speaker 1: And so even just for the first couple a couple
- 30:01Speaker 1: of weeks, you know, it was just me sitting down,
- 30:03Speaker 1: but I had to really channel these emotions to just remember, like,
- 30:07Speaker 1: you know, if no one's gonna be a voice to
- 30:09Speaker 1: these people, I gotta like kind of step up and
- 30:10Speaker 1: kind of like be a voice to just figure out
- 30:12Speaker 1: that you know, this isn't happened in the future, to
- 30:15Speaker 1: show is period, you know what I'm saying, or figure
- 30:18Speaker 1: out the bottom solution of what's going on, and just
- 30:20Speaker 1: trying to ensure as people, you know, safety and what
- 30:24Speaker 1: they're doing. You know, you said you was in the room,
- 30:26Speaker 1: but then people saw you at the golf course, but
- 30:29Speaker 1: with Michael Jordan, Mark Wahlberg, what what was that? Um?
- 30:33Speaker 1: It was just Thanksgiving, um, you know, and they were there.
- 30:36Speaker 1: You know, it's just good people to have around in
- 30:38Speaker 1: the community, and you know that was just more like
- 30:41Speaker 1: a personal time, just trying to get around. I think
- 30:44Speaker 1: like some fan came and asked for a photo. But yeah,
- 30:48Speaker 1: let's talk about that night. Man. When when did when
- 30:50Speaker 1: did you find out things got as bad as they did? That?
- 30:54Speaker 1: That's the question everybody wants to go. Yeah, it wasn't
- 30:56Speaker 1: really until like minutes until like the press conference, until
- 30:59Speaker 1: I figured out exactly what happened. You know, um, even
- 31:03Speaker 1: after the show, you know, you're just kind of hearing
- 31:05Speaker 1: hearing things, but you don't know. I didn't know the
- 31:07Speaker 1: exact details until you know, minutes before the press conference.
- 31:12Speaker 1: And even at that moment you kind of just like wait,
- 31:15Speaker 1: you know what, Like you know, you just went through
- 31:17Speaker 1: something and it's just like wait what you know, So
- 31:20Speaker 1: you didn't know people that actually passed away until minutes before,
- 31:25Speaker 1: you know, which is you know, and at the thing,
- 31:27Speaker 1: it's like, you know, people pass out, you know people,
- 31:30Speaker 1: you know, things happen at concerts, but something like that,
- 31:34Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, people said they are collectively, they
- 31:42Speaker 1: collectively heard folks scream and help every time you stop
- 31:45Speaker 1: the song to get your attention, did you did you
- 31:47Speaker 1: hear any of those screams, nah man. And you know
- 31:51Speaker 1: it's so crazy because I'm not I'm not artist too, Like,
- 31:53Speaker 1: you know, anytime you can hear something like that, you
- 31:55Speaker 1: want to stop the show. You want to make sure,
- 31:58Speaker 1: you know, fans get the property and they need you know,
- 32:01Speaker 1: And anytime I could see anything like that, I did,
- 32:04Speaker 1: you know, you know, I stopped like a couple of
- 32:06Speaker 1: times to just make sure everybody was okay, and I
- 32:09Speaker 1: just really just go off the you know, the fans
- 32:11Speaker 1: energy as a collective, you know, call a response. And
- 32:16Speaker 1: I just didn't. I just didn't hear that. You know,
- 32:17Speaker 1: I got music, I got my inears, but I just didn't.
- 32:21Speaker 1: I just didn't hear that. You know, break that down
- 32:23Speaker 1: a little more like Nope, nobody knows what it's like
- 32:25Speaker 1: being on stage except for other artists who speak to
- 32:29Speaker 1: us from that perspective of what you can see in here.
- 32:31Speaker 1: It was like fifty thousand people. Yeah, I mean you
- 32:33Speaker 1: got like a view, you know, feel like fifty thousand people.
- 32:38Speaker 1: But it's like a see, you got lights, you got sound,
- 32:40Speaker 1: you got pyro, you got you know, you got your inears,
- 32:42Speaker 1: got your sound, got your mic, you know, got the music,
- 32:45Speaker 1: You got bands, all type of you know, stuff going on,
- 32:49Speaker 1: so it's it's hard to tell excitement from from from
- 32:52Speaker 1: dangerous or to speak of course, everything kind of just
- 32:54Speaker 1: sounds the same. And at the end of the day,
- 32:56Speaker 1: you just hear music, you know, and when you do,
- 32:58Speaker 1: you just hear amongks of things. You know, but you
- 33:02Speaker 1: just when you're in the show, you just into the show.
- 33:04Speaker 1: And anytime you can feel anything closely, you know, you
- 33:07Speaker 1: try to like definitely get to that. So so as
- 33:10Speaker 1: an artist, how much can you actually, I guess help
- 33:13Speaker 1: in that position. You can only help what you can see,
- 33:16Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then what you know,
- 33:18Speaker 1: whatever you's told, you know what I'm saying. Whenever it
- 33:21Speaker 1: somebody tell you to stop, you just stop. But just
- 33:26Speaker 1: wasn't it was It wasn't that night, huh. You know, raging.
- 33:29Speaker 1: Raging has been a part of the culture, you know,
- 33:31Speaker 1: of your shows. You know you didn't on this night,
- 33:34Speaker 1: but in the past you've encouraged I guess the kind
- 33:36Speaker 1: of energy that could have led to something like this happening.
- 33:39Speaker 1: Do you think that contributed to the energy of this night? Yeah, nah,
- 33:43Speaker 1: I think you know, It's something I've been working on
- 33:47Speaker 1: you know, for a while, um of just creating these
- 33:50Speaker 1: experiences and trying to show like the experiences happening in
- 33:53Speaker 1: a safe environment. You know, us as artists, we trust
- 33:56Speaker 1: you know, professionals to make sure that you know, things
- 33:58Speaker 1: happen to people leave you safely, you know what I'm saying. Um.
- 34:02Speaker 1: And it's not just like a regular show. You know,
- 34:04Speaker 1: it felt like to me um as far as like
- 34:07Speaker 1: you know, the energy people, it didn't feel like it
- 34:09Speaker 1: was like you know, people didn't I don't people didn't
- 34:12Speaker 1: show up there to just be harmful people just I
- 34:15Speaker 1: think showed up to have a good time. And then
- 34:17Speaker 1: you know, something unfortunate happened, and I think we really
- 34:20Speaker 1: just got to figure out, you know what that was.
- 34:22Speaker 1: You know, does raging make it harder to identify when
- 34:26Speaker 1: something is going wrong in the crowd? Well, I think
- 34:29Speaker 1: raging is just a you know, they have a textbook,
- 34:32Speaker 1: you know definition. But you know, in the concerts and
- 34:35Speaker 1: we've grown it to be just experience of having fun.
- 34:38Speaker 1: It's not about just oh, harm, It's not about that.
- 34:42Speaker 1: It's about just letting go and having fun. You know,
- 34:45Speaker 1: help others, no, love each other. It's not about just
- 34:48Speaker 1: you know, harm. That's not what it's all about. The
- 34:52Speaker 1: show isn't just rambunctious for hour. You know, that's not
- 34:57Speaker 1: what it is. Oh, trust me, I grew up on crunk,
- 35:00Speaker 1: so you know I understand. You know, you just don't
- 35:03Speaker 1: you don't want it to get two out of hand. Yeah,
- 35:05Speaker 1: but you know the code. You know, the energy is high,
- 35:08Speaker 1: you know, and you know, and that's why you want
- 35:11Speaker 1: to just make sure that, you know, people are surrounded
- 35:13Speaker 1: to make sure that people are just having the best experience.
- 35:15Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, I can't say
- 35:17Speaker 1: the energy is high, but you know you want to
- 35:20Speaker 1: make sure that people are there for people to have
- 35:23Speaker 1: like the best experience in league. Yeah, you want people
- 35:25Speaker 1: to have a good time. You want people to get
- 35:27Speaker 1: hurt at all. Yeah. Yeah, and God forbid passed away.
- 35:31Speaker 1: And you know it's typical for you to stop a
- 35:34Speaker 1: show to make sure fans in the crowd get to help,
- 35:36Speaker 1: you know, they need They even footage of that night
- 35:39Speaker 1: of you doing that during the set where you unable
- 35:41Speaker 1: to sense like a difference in urgency this time around,
- 35:45Speaker 1: I mean yeah, because you know, you stop the show,
- 35:48Speaker 1: but you know, you know, if someone's gonna happen. If
- 35:50Speaker 1: it's something detrimental, somebody's gonna let you know, you know,
- 35:53Speaker 1: or you know, the show just stop them. And you
- 35:55Speaker 1: know that just wasn't the case. You know, I just
- 35:57Speaker 1: kind of stop the show. You know, you just asked.
- 35:59Speaker 1: You have a call of re sponsor the fans. Um
- 36:01Speaker 1: you try to, you know, generally get a response, but
- 36:04Speaker 1: you know, if you don't get like a hard stop,
- 36:08Speaker 1: you know, it's just you can't. You just don't. You
- 36:10Speaker 1: just go off of what's going on, you know, which
- 36:12Speaker 1: makes it so like so crazy because like, you know,
- 36:19Speaker 1: if I feel like, if you know, anyone wouldn't know
- 36:21Speaker 1: and it would have just been like it wouldn't have
- 36:23Speaker 1: gotten far, you know. All Right, we got more with
- 36:25Speaker 1: Travis Scott and Charlemagne there one on one conversation, so
- 36:28Speaker 1: don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody
- 36:32Speaker 1: is DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlemagne the guy we are
- 36:36Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Now if he's just joining us, we're
- 36:39Speaker 1: playing a one on one interview with Travis Scott and Charlemagne.
- 36:42Speaker 1: Travis Scott and Charlemagne spoke yesterday, so we're getting that
- 36:45Speaker 1: back on this morning. Yeah, we chopped it up yesterday,
- 36:48Speaker 1: you know. Um and you know, as you can see
- 36:50Speaker 1: if you've been listening, he's being very open about the situation.
- 36:54Speaker 1: But at Afterworld in Houston, Texas, the tragedy that happened
- 36:58Speaker 1: on November fifth at after World and US in Texas.
- 37:00Speaker 1: But you can you can see his brain, you know,
- 37:03Speaker 1: going on just how to make sure this never happens again.
- 37:05Speaker 1: But you know, keep listening, all right, and here's part two.
- 37:09Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club, Go Morning. What headspace were you
- 37:11Speaker 1: when you posted that that initial that initial response video.
- 37:15Speaker 1: I mean it was I think it has to been
- 37:17Speaker 1: the night of you know, Um, so I was just
- 37:20Speaker 1: in a headspace of just trying to get a communication
- 37:23Speaker 1: out to my fans, you know, and I had literally
- 37:26Speaker 1: no information, you know, so I was just trying to
- 37:29Speaker 1: figure it out and just communicate to them. You know. Yeah.
- 37:32Speaker 1: I was just reacting, just literally just to get something
- 37:36Speaker 1: to the fans. You know, there's people that showed up.
- 37:39Speaker 1: Do you regret that initial video? Do you regret reacting
- 37:41Speaker 1: in that way or not, like not having all the
- 37:43Speaker 1: information before you said something. I mean yeah, because you know,
- 37:46Speaker 1: you just don't know what's going on. But at the
- 37:48Speaker 1: end of the day. I don't, you know, I just
- 37:49Speaker 1: wanted to get something out, you know, how my messages
- 37:51Speaker 1: came out, I can't you know, I can only go
- 37:54Speaker 1: off for that, you know what I know. But my
- 37:56Speaker 1: Truman titches of it, you know, was really just trying
- 37:59Speaker 1: to get a message across. And you know, I really
- 38:02Speaker 1: wanted to just touch the fans, touching the families. You
- 38:04Speaker 1: know that we here, we're grieving and we would get
- 38:07Speaker 1: through this, you know, through this process. So what did
- 38:09Speaker 1: you know in that first video? I mean at that time,
- 38:12Speaker 1: I think we just knew that you know, people passed,
- 38:14Speaker 1: you know, Um, we didn't know how you know that
- 38:17Speaker 1: it was you know the news. You know, I think
- 38:19Speaker 1: police came out and said something. Um, you know, you're
- 38:22Speaker 1: just going off of what you're seeing in the in
- 38:24Speaker 1: the in the news. You know, you don't really know nothing.
- 38:26Speaker 1: And then as it did go on, you started collecting
- 38:28Speaker 1: a little bit more information. They said there was they
- 38:31Speaker 1: would like chaos and trampling being reported since the early afternoon,
- 38:35Speaker 1: like like hours before the show even started. Were you
- 38:38Speaker 1: informed of any of that ahead of time? Well? No,
- 38:40Speaker 1: like um and um, you know the police he came
- 38:45Speaker 1: he came in um to my trailer and you know
- 38:48Speaker 1: he congratulated me on you know, the event and you know,
- 38:51Speaker 1: having something like this in Houston. You let me know
- 38:55Speaker 1: that this it was, you know, mishap at the merged
- 38:58Speaker 1: booth earlier. You know they shut it down with they
- 39:00Speaker 1: opened it back up. They she even got it under control.
- 39:02Speaker 1: You know, he was gonna step out and just let
- 39:04Speaker 1: us know if we need anything, you know, have a
- 39:06Speaker 1: good show. That was it. You know a lot of
- 39:10Speaker 1: the criticism, you know from the tragedy they say is
- 39:13Speaker 1: and the poor planning and understaffing of the end of
- 39:16Speaker 1: the event. As an artist, that you have any involvement
- 39:20Speaker 1: in any of that, well, I mean we just as
- 39:22Speaker 1: an artist, you just do the creative and for this
- 39:24Speaker 1: to be my festival, you know, I got you know,
- 39:26Speaker 1: bring artists you know, creatively produce it and you know
- 39:29Speaker 1: we're just trusting you know, the professionals to kind of
- 39:31Speaker 1: just make sure that you know, people you know taking
- 39:34Speaker 1: care of and you know, leaving safely. You know, I
- 39:37Speaker 1: just can control what I can on the stage and
- 39:39Speaker 1: then you know you have the professionals control what they
- 39:41Speaker 1: can in the crowd. You know, it's just hard because
- 39:43Speaker 1: as an artist, you know, you want to have like
- 39:46Speaker 1: the best shows and you want to have the best experiences,
- 39:49Speaker 1: and you you know, you link with professionals to handle
- 39:54Speaker 1: that side of it, you know, and you know you
- 39:58Speaker 1: want to know what's going on. I think that's what
- 40:00Speaker 1: we got to figure out, you know, and figure out
- 40:03Speaker 1: what happened there, how that happened. You know, you spoke
- 40:06Speaker 1: on the Houston Police chief. His name is that Troy Finna.
- 40:09Speaker 1: He came to you and he said he voiced concerns
- 40:12Speaker 1: over the crowd energy. So what did you on your
- 40:15Speaker 1: team like do with that information. Well, I think that's
- 40:17Speaker 1: what the media. Um, I think that's what the media said.
- 40:20Speaker 1: But I think I think it read too more so
- 40:23Speaker 1: that he wanted us to He knew that our crowd was,
- 40:26Speaker 1: you know, the type of crowd that comes it comes
- 40:28Speaker 1: to a heavy crowd. So to communicate with him if
- 40:30Speaker 1: we were doing anything outside of the week's itinerary, you know,
- 40:34Speaker 1: um that week we were doing like a lot of
- 40:36Speaker 1: charity stuff prior to the festival, so you know the
- 40:38Speaker 1: security at most of the events. But you know, he
- 40:41Speaker 1: was just letting us, you know, I guess in that statement,
- 40:43Speaker 1: he was just saying, if we do anything outside of
- 40:45Speaker 1: what we had on our itinerary, let him know. But
- 40:49Speaker 1: you know, we didn't even get to that point. You know,
- 40:51Speaker 1: it's crazy, just you know, being a kicking it with
- 40:53Speaker 1: you for a little bit, Like I can see that
- 40:55Speaker 1: you know, this is Wayne real heavy on it. Yeah. So,
- 40:59Speaker 1: so how much do you feel a sense of responsibility
- 41:05Speaker 1: for what happened at night? Well, you know, fans come
- 41:08Speaker 1: to have a come to the show and have a
- 41:10Speaker 1: good experience, you know, Um, and I have a responsibility
- 41:16Speaker 1: to figure out what happened here. I have a responsibility
- 41:19Speaker 1: to figure out the solution. And hopefully this takes the
- 41:22Speaker 1: first step into you know, us as artists, you know,
- 41:27Speaker 1: having that more insight of what's going on. You know
- 41:29Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Um, the professionals to kind of you know,
- 41:34Speaker 1: surround and figure out more of an intel, whether it's tech,
- 41:37Speaker 1: whether it's you know, more of a response, whether it's
- 41:40Speaker 1: whatever the problem is, you know, UM, to figure out
- 41:43Speaker 1: that in the future and moving forward in concert safety,
- 41:47Speaker 1: make sure it just never happened again. You know. But
- 41:49Speaker 1: let's talk about those professionals, like how much how much
- 41:51Speaker 1: responsibility do you think like Live Nation and score more.
- 41:55Speaker 1: The promoters having all of this, I mean, they do
- 41:59Speaker 1: their job of you know, setting these things up. So
- 42:02Speaker 1: I mean I think they when we dial into what
- 42:07Speaker 1: you know, specifically happen here, I feel like, you know,
- 42:10Speaker 1: even they can kind of help, you know, figure out
- 42:13Speaker 1: what happened in the sense um you know. But at
- 42:17Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think collectively everyone needs
- 42:19Speaker 1: to just figure out the bottom line solution. But you know,
- 42:23Speaker 1: especially in concert safety, you know, definitely got to have
- 42:26Speaker 1: you know, make sure that you know these things are
- 42:30Speaker 1: you know, done right. You think he's afestival are too
- 42:33Speaker 1: big man, pifty dollars people with a lot of people
- 42:36Speaker 1: for anybody to their festivals that are bigger, you know,
- 42:40Speaker 1: way bigger, And you know, I just think it's not
- 42:46Speaker 1: about the maximum of it. I think it's about the
- 42:48Speaker 1: attension to what's going on and how it's going on.
- 42:51Speaker 1: And as long as that's handle, I feel like things
- 42:54Speaker 1: can be you know, can go okay, We'll be okay,
- 42:57Speaker 1: you know. But if you look at it through the
- 43:00Speaker 1: history of festivals, you know, um, this isn't the first
- 43:03Speaker 1: time happening. It's been a long history of this, you know.
- 43:05Speaker 1: So I feel like if you look at the overall
- 43:09Speaker 1: you know, view of that, and you kind of like dolling, Okay,
- 43:12Speaker 1: what can we do better to fix this overall for
- 43:14Speaker 1: general concert safety? I think we figure out the problem,
- 43:17Speaker 1: you know, um and make it better for people to
- 43:20Speaker 1: have better live experiences. Live Nation reportedly agreed to end
- 43:25Speaker 1: the concert early after the Houston PD and the Fire
- 43:28Speaker 1: Department declared it a match casualty event, but the concert
- 43:31Speaker 1: continued for another forty minutes. Was there any ever any
- 43:34Speaker 1: communication to you on stage that you should in this? Well? Yeah,
- 43:38Speaker 1: I mean it just told me right after you know,
- 43:40Speaker 1: the guests can get off stage, you know, we're gonna
- 43:43Speaker 1: end the show, you know, and that's what we did.
- 43:45Speaker 1: No other than that, there was no other communication, you know,
- 43:49Speaker 1: so after after the guests what you mean, Yeah, after
- 43:51Speaker 1: the guests comes out, okay, we're gonna we're gonna end
- 43:53Speaker 1: the show. But it wasn't a communication on why, you know.
- 43:56Speaker 1: It was just you know, that's what came through my ears,
- 43:58Speaker 1: you know, So they didn't say stopping. Now, know. Wow,
- 44:03Speaker 1: you feel like people are forcing more responsibility on you
- 44:06Speaker 1: because you are the front man, because it was astral World.
- 44:10Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, you know, I'm gonna you know,
- 44:12Speaker 1: I'm the face of the festival. You know, I'm an artist,
- 44:15Speaker 1: you know. UM, so yeah, you know, the media is
- 44:19Speaker 1: you know, they yeah, they want to you know, put
- 44:22Speaker 1: it on me, and but at the end of the day,
- 44:24Speaker 1: it's like, I don't think it's more so about that.
- 44:27Speaker 1: I think it's more so about um stepping up to
- 44:30Speaker 1: figure out what the problem is. And I could take that.
- 44:33Speaker 1: I could take you know, stepping up to figure out
- 44:36Speaker 1: what the problem is. I could take stepping into figuring
- 44:38Speaker 1: out the solution that had never happened again, because that's
- 44:40Speaker 1: what I generally want to do in general, even just
- 44:42Speaker 1: for my community. You know. The whole idea for why
- 44:45Speaker 1: I brought this festival to the city was to you know,
- 44:48Speaker 1: show that Houston is something different, you know, and show
- 44:52Speaker 1: that there's all different types of lives, is all different
- 44:54Speaker 1: type of energy, and just bring that morale to the
- 44:57Speaker 1: city and just bring that energy to the city. So
- 45:02Speaker 1: I definitely want to you know, step in to figure out,
- 45:04Speaker 1: you know, how can we fix this in the future,
- 45:07Speaker 1: what can we do to you know, change these things.
- 45:11Speaker 1: You know, do you feel like you did everything you
- 45:14Speaker 1: possibly could to help in that situation? Yes, Yes, anything
- 45:19Speaker 1: I physically care for sure, yes, and it just you know,
- 45:24Speaker 1: if knowing you know what's going on, you know, you
- 45:27Speaker 1: would just wish, you know, if you you know, couldn't
- 45:31Speaker 1: something better, you know. But standing there, all right, we
- 45:37Speaker 1: got more with Travis Scott and Charlemagne there one on
- 45:40Speaker 1: one conversation, so don't move. It's to Breakfast Club, Good
- 45:43Speaker 1: morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee, Charlemagne the guy.
- 45:48Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club Now. Yesterday Charlemagne did a
- 45:51Speaker 1: one on one interview with the Travis Scott. If you
- 45:53Speaker 1: just joined us with play the first two parts. What's
- 45:56Speaker 1: your YouTube page, Charlemagne, Yeah, it'll be up on my
- 45:58Speaker 1: YouTube page shortly. My YouTube page is See the God
- 46:01Speaker 1: C T H A G O D. And so you know,
- 46:05Speaker 1: if you're already subscribe to my YouTube page, thank you.
- 46:08Speaker 1: I don't post content often, but when I do, it's
- 46:11Speaker 1: things like like this, So subscribe and it should be
- 46:14Speaker 1: up on my YouTube page shortly. All right, Well, let's
- 46:18Speaker 1: get to part three. It's the Breakfast Club Good Morning.
- 46:20Speaker 1: You know, we know that the families of the people
- 46:23Speaker 1: who passed are definitely watching this right now, and you
- 46:25Speaker 1: know there's nothing you could say to heal the trauma
- 46:30Speaker 1: these families who lost loved ones are you know, are
- 46:33Speaker 1: going through. But being that you know they're watching, what
- 46:35Speaker 1: would you what would you say to them? Directly? I'll
- 46:38Speaker 1: say to them that I'm I'm always here and that
- 46:41Speaker 1: you know I'm you know, I'm I'm in this with
- 46:45Speaker 1: you guys, and I love you, you you know, and I
- 46:49Speaker 1: always you know, be there to help you guys heal
- 46:51Speaker 1: to this. And I understand that they're going through you know,
- 46:55Speaker 1: they're grieving right now and finally understanding right now and
- 47:00Speaker 1: you know, it's not just like a right now thing.
- 47:02Speaker 1: It's for everything. UM. And these people that came to
- 47:06Speaker 1: the show, they are my family. And I've always had
- 47:09Speaker 1: that connection to the people. I feel like they listen
- 47:11Speaker 1: to the music or it came to my shows, and
- 47:14Speaker 1: that's why I really, you know, it's really hard on
- 47:18Speaker 1: me even just you know, t even like you know,
- 47:23Speaker 1: and even because you know they ended up, they they
- 47:28Speaker 1: they lost they lost their loved ones, you know, so
- 47:31Speaker 1: it you know, it's it's tough. UM. I just want
- 47:39Speaker 1: to always just be there for them and just always
- 47:42Speaker 1: just be able to just know that I'm gonna fix this.
- 47:46Speaker 1: For the future people, you know, and and fix this solution.
- 47:50Speaker 1: Um and fix this problem, I mean, you know, um,
- 47:53Speaker 1: and find a solution to making sure that this doesn't
- 47:56Speaker 1: happen in the future. UM, and definitely be a number
- 47:59Speaker 1: one of voice for this. You know. I feel like
- 48:03Speaker 1: that's like one of the what we what we got
- 48:05Speaker 1: to figure out because other than that, it's like, you know,
- 48:09Speaker 1: the show goes on tomorrow or you know, something goes
- 48:13Speaker 1: How does it? How does this get fixed? This could
- 48:15Speaker 1: happen again, just happened before. Yeah, yeah, you're you're you're
- 48:18Speaker 1: a father, you know, God forbid when your kids are
- 48:21Speaker 1: of age, if they're in a situation like this, you
- 48:24Speaker 1: know what you do put yourself in those parents shoes
- 48:28Speaker 1: right now? What would what would you want to see
- 48:30Speaker 1: come of this situation? If you I want to see
- 48:34Speaker 1: people put their heads together. I would want to see
- 48:37Speaker 1: people really figure this out, not take this lightly, you know, um,
- 48:43Speaker 1: and really act on it. And that's you know, that's
- 48:46Speaker 1: one of the main things that's important. I feel like
- 48:49Speaker 1: they gotta just act on it. It can't just be
- 48:51Speaker 1: like something that happens and it just roll over. We
- 48:56Speaker 1: got to be something that's taken serious. And address seriously
- 49:00Speaker 1: and things formed around it. Time and a lot of
- 49:04Speaker 1: a lot of time and a lot of you know,
- 49:07Speaker 1: thinking power is spent on this, you know, and really
- 49:10Speaker 1: fixing you know, whatever system it just needs to be fixed,
- 49:14Speaker 1: you know, from the lawsuits to the media coverage to
- 49:17Speaker 1: do Do you feel like you're personally under attack? I mean,
- 49:23Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean you see a name in
- 49:24Speaker 1: it and it and it's like but you know, at
- 49:30Speaker 1: the end of the day, you step in these you know,
- 49:33Speaker 1: you step you want to do a festival, and you
- 49:35Speaker 1: know when we want to do things and you want
- 49:37Speaker 1: to build up. You know, it comes with certain things, right,
- 49:40Speaker 1: So I think it's all about how you respond to it.
- 49:43Speaker 1: And I think it's all about how you react, right
- 49:45Speaker 1: So I could feel that way, but I think more
- 49:48Speaker 1: so about it's more about how I feel about the
- 49:52Speaker 1: response that I that I that I'm that I care
- 49:54Speaker 1: about more so, which is you know, actually, you know,
- 49:59Speaker 1: trying to step in and you know, really step up
- 50:02Speaker 1: to really fixing what's happening and and really step up
- 50:07Speaker 1: for the safety or concert cours or people in just
- 50:10Speaker 1: live spaces period. I wonder, I wonder is there a
- 50:15Speaker 1: way to even prepare for this because nobody, like you said,
- 50:18Speaker 1: when you're doing the planning for a show like this,
- 50:19Speaker 1: nobody is planning for this to happen. So how do
- 50:22Speaker 1: you how do you even prepare for something like this
- 50:25Speaker 1: step I don't know. And I feel like when we
- 50:29Speaker 1: get I feel like, when it comes out a little
- 50:32Speaker 1: bit more how this could have happened. I feel like
- 50:34Speaker 1: that's how we can kind of attack that. But even
- 50:38Speaker 1: I was thinking in ways like tech solutions. You know,
- 50:40Speaker 1: people come into these festivals with these bands that only
- 50:44Speaker 1: scan you in right, you have you know, we have
- 50:48Speaker 1: all type of tech now that can track your heart
- 50:51Speaker 1: contract your you know, oxygen levels, contracting, the sick. You
- 50:55Speaker 1: can put things now if you're gonna be you know,
- 50:57Speaker 1: get lost. It's all type of ways now, like that
- 51:00Speaker 1: can be the band that only gets you access to
- 51:03Speaker 1: entry or to the food line or two food trucks
- 51:06Speaker 1: can now be solvable to helping save lives, you know,
- 51:09Speaker 1: can now be more of a response to people that
- 51:11Speaker 1: are now on site and on ground. Um, I feel
- 51:15Speaker 1: like that could be a way, or you know, even
- 51:18Speaker 1: just figuring out what the exact solution, what the exact
- 51:22Speaker 1: problem of it was, and dialing more into that. I
- 51:26Speaker 1: think you can kind of. I feel like there is
- 51:28Speaker 1: a way. I just think it needs to be time
- 51:31Speaker 1: spent on figuring that figuring that out. Have you been
- 51:34Speaker 1: able to have any personal conversations with any of the
- 51:37Speaker 1: families who lost levels? I was able to, Um, But
- 51:41Speaker 1: you know, I just want to just respect that, you know,
- 51:43Speaker 1: the privacy of the conversation. And I'm thankful for them
- 51:47Speaker 1: for even allowing me to have the conversation. Yeah, how
- 51:50Speaker 1: did you feel when some of the families rejected your
- 51:53Speaker 1: offer to pay for the funerals? All things are understandable,
- 51:57Speaker 1: and you know, at the time, they're grieving and they're
- 52:00Speaker 1: trying to find understanding, and you know, they want answers,
- 52:04Speaker 1: and it's not about it's not about that, you know. UM,
- 52:07Speaker 1: I'm always gonna be here, you know, to want to
- 52:10Speaker 1: help them, you know what I'm saying, And and it's
- 52:12Speaker 1: it's not gonna you know, I gotta continue to show
- 52:15Speaker 1: up for that, you know. UM, I just wanted to
- 52:17Speaker 1: make sure that they knew that I was there for them,
- 52:21Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and continue to be there
- 52:22Speaker 1: for them. UM. I think that's just more so what
- 52:25Speaker 1: it's about for that Um yeah, some people say, um,
- 52:31Speaker 1: your your your music played a role in this, Like
- 52:33Speaker 1: I've seen them, you know, cite lyrics, you know that
- 52:36Speaker 1: encouraged just kind of behavior. I've seen him say your
- 52:38Speaker 1: music is demonic and this was a satanic ritual. You
- 52:43Speaker 1: think your music is to blame? I mean no, I'm
- 52:47Speaker 1: I mean why, I'm a man of God. So that's
- 52:49Speaker 1: the first thing first, and um, you know, so it's
- 52:53Speaker 1: just yeah, that's that. And you know your music is
- 52:58Speaker 1: just like self expression, you know I'm saying. And at
- 53:01Speaker 1: these shows, I feel like people kind of like look
- 53:04Speaker 1: at things. And if you've been the Travis Show, it's
- 53:07Speaker 1: it's been different layers of shows. You know. I think
- 53:10Speaker 1: people are just you know, misconceptions and taking these seeing
- 53:14Speaker 1: and you know all type of things. You know. Um,
- 53:18Speaker 1: and I've I've I've took pride in trying to you know,
- 53:21Speaker 1: grow from where I was when I first recorded music
- 53:24Speaker 1: to now where I'm going in music. Um So yeah,
- 53:28Speaker 1: I just think people gotta and and that's one thing
- 53:31Speaker 1: with me is just people gotta kind of you know,
- 53:34Speaker 1: experience it sometimes. And I think that's what it was.
- 53:36Speaker 1: You know, people were kind of like even before people
- 53:38Speaker 1: were hearing about it, they come and experience it and
- 53:41Speaker 1: taking away their own thing. And it's always going to
- 53:44Speaker 1: be an outside opinion. But you know, for the ones
- 53:47Speaker 1: that you know really believe in me and you know
- 53:50Speaker 1: understand what. You know, what I'm about and what I'm doing. No,
- 53:52Speaker 1: that's not That's not what I'm you know, preaching. I
- 53:55Speaker 1: always preach like love, always preach you understanding. I always preach,
- 53:58Speaker 1: you know, take care of your loved ones. Love each other.
- 54:02Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Get out your ideas, never
- 54:04Speaker 1: let never let yourselves be stop, you know, love one
- 54:07Speaker 1: another and step into that, you know. I mean, I
- 54:11Speaker 1: think that's a part of it. But the music does
- 54:13Speaker 1: encourage people to be violent at these shows. I mean,
- 54:17Speaker 1: I mean that's what the rage is about. I mean,
- 54:20Speaker 1: most of the music is its me sometimes talking about
- 54:24Speaker 1: what I see at the shows, you know what I mean.
- 54:27Speaker 1: If I'm talking about the shows, you know, and so
- 54:29Speaker 1: it's just that's just you know, the energy, you know
- 54:32Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But the energy isn't to come and start,
- 54:36Speaker 1: you know, being ultra violent and just being violent and
- 54:39Speaker 1: hurting each other. That's not That's not what it's about,
- 54:42Speaker 1: all right, that's part three of the conversation and one
- 54:44Speaker 1: on one conversation with Charlemagne and Travis Scott and I
- 54:47Speaker 1: don't move. We got more coming up. I usually we
- 54:50Speaker 1: do rumors, but this is, uh, this is more important
- 54:53Speaker 1: this morning, so don't move. It's the Breakfast clubal morning parting.
- 54:57Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy and Charlemagne the guy. We are
- 55:01Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Now if he's just joining us, where
- 55:05Speaker 1: playing back Charlomagne's one on one conversation with Travis Scott. Yeah,
- 55:09Speaker 1: we sat. I sat down with Travis Scott to you know,
- 55:11Speaker 1: discuss the tragedy that happened on November fifth at after
- 55:13Speaker 1: World in Houston, Texas. You know, clearly not the easy conversation,
- 55:17Speaker 1: and you know he wants to discuss how he can
- 55:19Speaker 1: help make sure this never happens again, which he doesn't
- 55:22Speaker 1: even know what that looks like yet. But here's the conversation, right,
- 55:26Speaker 1: and we'll take some calls after this. Eight hundred five
- 55:29Speaker 1: eight five one five one. It's the Breakfast Club. His
- 55:31Speaker 1: part four, you said you're a man of God. And
- 55:33Speaker 1: when I even said that, you know they say your
- 55:35Speaker 1: music in Satanic. I saw the face that you made.
- 55:36Speaker 1: What do you what do you think that even comes
- 55:38Speaker 1: from Travis Scott is Satan and Travis scottis. I just
- 55:41Speaker 1: think it's just things people collect. You know, people look
- 55:43Speaker 1: at the Internet and they just collect and they look
- 55:45Speaker 1: at things, and they look at visuals, and you know,
- 55:47Speaker 1: we have all these theorists and people just thinking they're
- 55:50Speaker 1: looking at visuals don't understand you know, just the idea
- 55:52Speaker 1: of like what art maybe, or what what you're trying
- 55:55Speaker 1: to do. You know, they're just making up your own message,
- 55:57Speaker 1: especially when you're not out there like yelling the message
- 55:59Speaker 1: all the time. You know, it's just yeah, and when
- 56:04Speaker 1: they say this is a community event after a world Yeah,
- 56:07Speaker 1: so they say a community event is a Satanic ritual?
- 56:09Speaker 1: How does that? Yeah, It's like it's it's it's crazy
- 56:12Speaker 1: because you know, it's like I do this for people
- 56:14Speaker 1: to have a good time. You know, we have rides,
- 56:16Speaker 1: we have games. You know, it's things for people to
- 56:18Speaker 1: get off, creative experiences. It's not you know, the show
- 56:21Speaker 1: is at the end of the day. You know, it's
- 56:23Speaker 1: like you know and that show is just something based
- 56:25Speaker 1: on on what's you know, just the's things. You know,
- 56:28Speaker 1: It's not like what like why would we wake up
- 56:31Speaker 1: one day and just trying to It's just that's just evil.
- 56:33Speaker 1: It's not what we are part of. Not trying to
- 56:35Speaker 1: be a part of that. We're trying to be a
- 56:36Speaker 1: part of joy, trying to be a part of light,
- 56:38Speaker 1: and trying to be a part of full blown happiness, love,
- 56:41Speaker 1: you know, understanding people taking care of each other, you know, community,
- 56:44Speaker 1: people to leave from these experiences and want to go
- 56:47Speaker 1: out and do good. It's literally what we want, you know,
- 56:50Speaker 1: we want to show them these things. You know, we
- 56:53Speaker 1: put everything into it. You know, this is you know,
- 56:55Speaker 1: this festival. You know, this is our third year, you know,
- 56:57Speaker 1: so we try to put you know, we every year
- 57:00Speaker 1: we put everything into the festival so people can enjoy it.
- 57:03Speaker 1: You know. It's not about even just come perform that
- 57:07Speaker 1: not that, you know, it's things for them to do
- 57:08Speaker 1: all day and different artists for them to experience too.
- 57:13Speaker 1: Have the trauma of just tragedy impacted your desire to
- 57:17Speaker 1: perform in the future. I've always seen performances of art
- 57:23Speaker 1: of healing for me. That's why I've always been so
- 57:25Speaker 1: into it. You know, I don't know if you like,
- 57:28Speaker 1: you know, looked at like some of the growth from
- 57:31Speaker 1: where I'm trying to take performance. I've I've always tried that.
- 57:33Speaker 1: I feel like it's the art of healing. I feel
- 57:34Speaker 1: like it's a moment where people have a mutual understanding,
- 57:38Speaker 1: you know. And I feel like the first things first
- 57:42Speaker 1: before anything is that we address you know, a lot
- 57:45Speaker 1: of safety concerns. I think the first things first is
- 57:48Speaker 1: that because not even just for me, you don't want
- 57:52Speaker 1: other you know, artists to have to go and take
- 57:55Speaker 1: a part of that trauma, to take a part of
- 57:57Speaker 1: that experience, take a part of that, you know, over
- 58:00Speaker 1: that fear. You don't want console girls to still be
- 58:02Speaker 1: a part of that fear. They want you want, you
- 58:03Speaker 1: want them to feel safe, you know what I'm saying.
- 58:05Speaker 1: So I think that's just the first things first. And
- 58:07Speaker 1: I think once we take major steps into moving in
- 58:12Speaker 1: that direction, you know, I feel like, you know, it
- 58:14Speaker 1: could be cool to for people to practice that healing again,
- 58:18Speaker 1: you know, and understand that. I don't think people should
- 58:21Speaker 1: run away from it and shy away from it. I think,
- 58:23Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a it's a form of healing,
- 58:26Speaker 1: you know. You know, no matter what you do at
- 58:29Speaker 1: any of your shows in the future, regardless of how
- 58:31Speaker 1: much security, how much safety you put in place, you
- 58:34Speaker 1: cannot control human behavior. Yeah. Yeah, you can't control forty
- 58:38Speaker 1: fifty thousand people doing whatever they do. Is that's scary?
- 58:43Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but you know you also put trust
- 58:46Speaker 1: in the fans too to you know, just have a
- 58:48Speaker 1: good time. You know, you just reinstill that, and you
- 58:51Speaker 1: know you continue to practice, you know, when you're on stage,
- 58:54Speaker 1: should just remind them, you know, um, and even when
- 58:57Speaker 1: they're there, to just constantly have messages to remind them like, yo,
- 58:59Speaker 1: look if here to have a good time, we're not here.
- 59:02Speaker 1: If you see somebody you know help another you know, um.
- 59:05Speaker 1: I think it's just continue to reinstill that message. I
- 59:08Speaker 1: think helped that mindset if Yeah, so after a world
- 59:13Speaker 1: was one of you know, several ways you gave back
- 59:15Speaker 1: to Houston, do you think you've you know, lost that
- 59:17Speaker 1: privilege to do that. To be honest, I haven't really
- 59:21Speaker 1: like thought about that because I've just been thinking about
- 59:23Speaker 1: just community healing and you know, the family's healing and
- 59:28Speaker 1: you know, all those things kind of building back up.
- 59:30Speaker 1: Um that that could take forever. Though, you know, I
- 59:35Speaker 1: don't know if you ever truly heal yeah, from these
- 59:37Speaker 1: type of situations and you know, but you know, through
- 59:41Speaker 1: these things, you know, like I say, music is part
- 59:44Speaker 1: of healing. And at the end of the day, um,
- 59:49Speaker 1: I don't I just don't, you know, the Travis Scott
- 59:52Speaker 1: show or you know, an asture or show you know,
- 59:57Speaker 1: wasn't the bottom line fact that what happened here, you know?
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: And I think we just got to figure out what
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: that was, what happened. But you know, having a Travis
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: Scott show and we've done shows you know, all over
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: that wasn't the you know, what happened here? You know,
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: something that happened here, you know, And that's why I
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: want to fix it, because it can happen anywhere, you
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I think once we get
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: further along in that, I think, you know, you know,
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: it'd be more a little bit more receptive. I feel,
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: did they make you feel judged? When you see videos,
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: you know, circulating the other artists stopping their shows like
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: to check on fans since since after World because almost
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: like the insinuation from other artists that like, you didn't
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: do enough, So we don't want to be like driving
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: I'll take it as you know, they're just taking extra precautions,
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: you know, because it might not have been something that
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: you know, let's running through their mind at time before,
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: and they're just taking extra precautions to you know, make
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: sure they don't run through the same same problems. And
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: I could commend them for that. You know. I've always
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: done the same thing, you know, in my prior shows
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: and at their shows, So you know, I feel them,
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: you know. I just think it's been a little bit
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: more people are more capturing it now, like because of
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: what's going on. I think that's just how the media works.
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: If the families are the victims, never forgive you. Will
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: you ever be able to forgive yourself? Can you live
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: with that? No? It's tough, you know, it's real tough,
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: m because I want them to really know that my
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: intentions wasn't you know, it wasn't the harm their family
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: at all. It's for them to come and have a
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: good experience. Um. I've always feel like I have a
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: connection with my fans, you know, through the music. I
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: feel like when they come to see me, and it's
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: not just like oh they're coming, they're coming in, it's
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: like a connection. Um. And you know, sometimes not knowing
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: you know, people not understanding like artists and where we
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: come from that it could be the connect and you know,
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: I would love to you know, instead of understanding and
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: you know, for them to truly know my heart's from.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: You know, it didn't come for them for me to
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: horror and it wasn't about a show to keep you
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: know at all. You know, it's a you know, it's
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: about for them to have you know, one of the
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: you know, a very good time and it's just traged
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: that it didn't turn out that way. You know. So
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: I guess my final question, man, who do who? Who does?
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: Who does Travis Scott? Ultimately, I guess think it is
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: responsible for this tragedy. You know, something tragic happening here. Well,
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: what I've just been trying to, you know, get to
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: the bottom of it is just what happened here, how
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: it happened here? And you know, I think the families
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: are old, you know that I feel like, you know,
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: the community is old that I feel like we're old
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: that to just know what happened here. I don't want
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: to just speak too soon. I just want to figure
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: out what, you know, what happened. You know, you know
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: they're going to pick this interview apart, So anything you
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: want to say to your fans, to the family of
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: people who lost loved ones, you know, before we get
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: out of here. I mean, I just want to I
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: want everyone and can just continue praying for the fans, Um.
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: I want to continue. I want people to continue praying
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: for the ones, the fans I was lost, you know.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: I want people to continue praying for the families. I
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: want people to continue just reaching out for healing. I
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: think the more we try to, you know, continue to
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: let people grieve and continue to be there for people
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: and you know, checking more people and you know, checking
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: on your loved ones and just you know that, you know,
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: I think that's just like one of the most important things.
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: You know, UM, stand strong through this while we you know,
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: figure out what's going on, you know, and and bring
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: understanding to these families and to the communities. That's what
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna send healing energy to everybody involved,
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: the families, you know, those who were lost, yourself, because
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: nobody wants tragedies like just appe not at all, So
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: preventing the moving for it is the only thing we
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: can do. Appreciate you brother, Yes, sir, absolutely wait wait,
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: wake up, wait, you're checking out the breakfast club? Hey,
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- 1:04:52Speaker 1: many wait for Charmaine had to make a judgment of
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: who was going to be on the donkey of the day.
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: They chose you this club, bitch, Yeah day what Darcy
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: to Dave goes to me? Okay? Leonardo mclvy ak Charlomagne
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: to God, I'm gonna tell you why now I'm a good,
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: god fearing man with a criminal mind state okay. Grew
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: up on a dirt road in Monkst Corner, South Carolina.
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: Mom was a Jehovah witness English teacher. My father was
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: an entrepreneurgro did everything from owning a fish market, the construction,
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: the selling narcotics. It is what it is, It was
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: what it was. My mother kept a book in my face.
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: I read everything from my book of Bible stories to
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: all you there, God, it's me Margaret. Side note, Judy
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: Bloom sent me and my oldest daughter an autograph copy
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: of all You their God, It's me. Margaret dropped on
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: the clues bonds for Judy Bloom. Bro. You can't shout
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: that out with a mask, yo, side okay. She signed
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: it to Charlemagne and in parenthesis Lenard, love you from
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: your fan, Judy Bloom. Thank you, Judy. Also side note
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: to a side note, I ordered some penis enlargement pills
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: and I've been taking them, and I've been chanting, I must,
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: I must, I must increase my thrust. I explained it
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: on this week's Bring Idiot's podcast. Go listen. Now, what's
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: my point here? My point here is that I come
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: from the dirt all right, South Carolina, eight foot three
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: all day. That is always in me. Therefore I would
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: always love the ratchetness of life, even at forty two
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: years old, married with three kids and a receding headline.
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: I love ratchetness. I still do hood rat things with
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: my friends. We just do it at our houses are
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: on vacation when the kids go to sleep. But the
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: reason I'm giving myself donkey of to day is because
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: this morning, when I was here by myself, I was
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: talking about the domestic terrorists that you know hit the capitol,
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: you know, Vanilla isis And I was still on a
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: high after listening to all these good country wrap tunes
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: this morning on title, and I feel I feel stupid.
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: Just listen to how I've been sounding this morning. I've
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: talked my way out of enough home invasions to know
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: when something is a setup. Okay. I don't even know
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: who the trust in government anymore, but I know who
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: I do trust, and that's no damn body, okay. Period.
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: And for some reason I started to saying, that's on cryp.
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: But I'm not a cript. I don't even know why
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: the hell I would even say something like that. All right,
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: truth all again. Out there, I'm driving in this morning,
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: I heard you shout out all the gangs. Then I
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: don't know why I said, I'm gonna be asking you,
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: you know how I feel aboudy be talking like that's
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: im crip, and I don't think about it like I
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: ain't even know crip. Why am I saying I'm walking
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: in blue dollar gangs though, Mellow, I don't know what's
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: going on the Pallo. We held it down for the
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: morning while everybody wasn't there. Man appreciate that it's about time.
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: I don't know who died it made Ju six nine,
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: but I don't know who died and made me six nineties.
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: And Mellow, there's quite a three problems with all those statements.
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: Number One, I don't gang bang, never having my life.
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: I'm not a crip, not a blood either. I'm nothing.
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: I'm a man who has therapy to day at three pm.
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: I'm a man who is scared to order a protein
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: shake from around the corner here and hearing Triedbecca's because
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: I feel like they keep giving me whole milk and
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: not owning milk, and I don't have time to spend.
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: I was on the toilet today and I get dairy bumps.
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: My point was saying all of this and the reason
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: I'm giving myself donkey that this is because I just
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: feel stupid and donkey today. It's all about giving people
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: to credit they deserve for being stupid. If you read
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: my first book, the New York Times best selling Black Privilege,
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: and you know, one of my laws in my book
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: was always give people to credit they deserve for being stupid,
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: including yourself. And that's what I'm doing right now. The
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: reason I feel stupid is because I was writing in
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: the work this morning, listening to the New South playlists
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: on the title bro. There's some records on there that
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: make my inner child smile. I mean, there are records
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: on there that make the hood in me happy. Okay,
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: I'm from South Carolina, the eight four three eight or
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: three eight six four. When you come from a certain environment,
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: there is a certain energy that is always in you.
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: And when you listen to certain music, certain music is
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: so powerful and it would just have you feeling like
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: you something you're not. Okay, that's what Pooh shicsty guard
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: up did for me. Okay, that's play poosh shanty guard en.
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: Let me hear a little bit of that. Man, come,
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: I just past them up, telling Godel to bunt up
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: on the key to carmbers of the earn. Somebody apiece
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: think I applied gold tie so I can put them
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: in my mouth. Okay, that's what Off the Porch by
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: my kid Glock did it for me. This morning, I
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: was listening to the Roaring Twenties by Flow Million. Did
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: my dog Little Boss from North Chalton, southcare a lot
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: of He's on the New South title playlist and you've
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: got a song called I Know It. He's from the
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: same state as me from the Chuck. How can I
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: not be influenced? Okay, how can I not be? You
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: know what I feel like right now? I'm at the
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: point where I'm like a wax on Minutes to Society,
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: Salute to the good brother MCA. Make sure y'all check
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: out that gangst the Chronicles podcast on the Black Effect
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Network. I'm like a wax I don't did so
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: much dirt that I just like to see other people
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: do it. I like to hear it, I like to
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: feel it. I like to see it. But I'm not
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: doing it, and you don't have to hear certain records
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: and it takes you back to your old while loud days. Yes,
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: so I'm not alone here? Then, yeah, you are a
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: little bit alone? Mean why why why am I alone?
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: Because you have a ski mask on and you've been
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: saying on slide. You judging me some on God, why
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: are waiting a gun? Happy? A fake gun? You're right,
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: let me put that away, Okay, I'm just saying it
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: really makes you think about the influence this music is
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: having on the youth. Because the influenced my grown ass
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: this morning. But not because they might rap about violence
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: and doing criminal activities and gang stuff, but because it's fun.
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: It's just fun. I mean, listen to these country rap tis.
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: Play some of that key clock off the porch. Just
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: listen to this. It's like, Hey, I jumped up the porch,
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: then I jumped in the boof. I used to rat
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: t his piece. Now I got a new coop page.
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: I'm hugging humble, but I'm playing it out cool. But
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: don't get this shit ain't out on the news. Hey
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: come on home, man, But hey, play some of that
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: flow Milli Roaring twenties, and I'm gonna tell you something.
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: You know, I'm all about the sacred masculine and the
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: divine feminine. Okay, this right here is for the divine
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: hood rating all of us. Play some of this roaring
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: attorneys by flow Millie, Okay, making me feeling come home, man,
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: that's for all the negroes that want to do the
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: Busteed Challenge, but our needs not what they used to be. Okay, okay,
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: hey play a snippet of my dog Little Boss. Okay,
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: I know it's South Carolina all day. Come on now,
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: she said, like when I saw something first one, I
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: woke up and I said, I know more now. She said,
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: she like counster and I'm getting that money and I said,
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: I know it. They're like, I got that bag on
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: and that's funny man and beat that they're look at
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: that scrap on being because I know that they after me.
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: That's when I saw something. I said, And do you
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: feel me? Fly on trap? Okay, you doing y'a dramas
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: on guiding them? Give me the biggest feet hall. Okay,
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: we got more coming up. Next to don't Move, Happy Holidays,
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: Don't go Anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Come Morning, the
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, Power one O five one, The Breakfast Club.
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: Your morning's will never be the same morning. Everybody's DJ
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the building. That's right,
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: he's the head of Instagram. Hi Adam. How do I
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: say your last name? I don't want to mess it up, Sarissi, Adam,
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: what's up? My gulco? Thanks for having men joining us.
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: Tell people what that meets the head of Instagram, CEO
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: of Instagram, What does that mean? It means that if
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: something goes wrong on Instagram, it's on me, and if
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: something goes right, it's probably on my team. But generally
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: I spend as much my time as I can helping
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: us think about where we're going, what we need to
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: do better, what we need to double down on because
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: it's going well, and building the team to help us
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: get it done. Let's get to the nity gritty because
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people on social media when
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: you said you would coming here. They have questions, Please
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: bring them. Let's discuss the election first, right because, as
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of fake news that was
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: going around, and there were a lot of issues with
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: Facebook with fake news. You know, how do you guys
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: take responsibility for your platforms with COVID, with fake news
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: and things like that happening, making sure that that information
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: doesn't get spread out. Social media as a technology isn't
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: good and it isn't bad. It just is. And social
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: media specifically is a great amplifier in a lot of ways,
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: and it can amplify good and it can amplify bad,
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: and so it's our responsibility to do all we can
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: to amplify the good and mitigate the bad. And you
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: see both spread on the platform, right. You saw the
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter movement spread on social media. You saw
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: me too spread on social media. But you also see
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: things like misinformation spread on social media. And so we
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: try to figure out all the different things that we
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: can do to identify problems and address them and then
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: also rethink the core of what we do and how
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: we do it to create better outcomes. And that work
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: never ends. And so I mean you brought up a
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: couple of different things there, but on misinformation specifically, what
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: we do is we work with third party fact checkers,
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: So people who do this for a living, who do
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: this for publications, we give them access to what's shared
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: on the platform, and they can dispute things. They can
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: say that this isn't true and here's a link to why.
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: And when that happens, we reduce the spread of that
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: when we label things and we give people links to
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: good information but we don't take it off the platform
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: entirely unless there's a safety risk. So for things like
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: COVID nineteen or vaccine related misinformation, we just stick it
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: off the platform entirely. So at this point we spend
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: billions of dollars a year and there are tens of
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: thousands of people between the engineers, the reviewers, and everything
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: else focused on safety. How liable should social media platforms
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: be in regards to lawsuits, like if I want to
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: sue somebody for sland our deformation, should I be able
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: to name the social media platform? Yeah? So this is
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: actually one of the big legal debates right now. Right
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: and here in the US they talk a lot about
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: Section to thirty, which gives technology platforms essentially no liability,
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: but the people who post that content are liable in
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: different countries around the world that that may not be
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: the case. Actually it isn't the case. Yea. South Africa
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: don't play. Yeah, no, a lot of Europe they don't play.
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: And so the thing that I think is that it's
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: important that company needs are held to account to take
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: measures to keep people safe. But I don't think we
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: can go all the way to have a social media
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: platform be accountable for every single thing that is said
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: on that platform by every person, because they're over a
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: billion people on Instagram at this point, and there's there's
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: no version of that where there aren't going to be
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: people with problematic opinions, racists, et cetera are going to
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: show up. I'm not going to check that at the
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: door when they open up Instagram. But I do think
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that we can just you know, wipe
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: a hand. The question is where are we on that spectrum?
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: What do you say to people that say that, you know,
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: social media, Instagram per se, it's really affecting people's mental
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: where people are are you know, thinking of committing suicide
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: and you know, having problems in school and self esteem
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: and all of those things due to that platform. So
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: there's a range here, and I think they are all
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: really important questions. There are problems that are really acute,
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: right So if you are struggling with self injury or suicide,
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: that is I mean, that's high stakes, that's really problematic.
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: And we've done a lot of work in that area
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: to try and be thoughtful about what we share, like
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: getting people access to good information or to help. So,
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: for instance, right now, if we think you are a
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: risk to yourself, we will do it, will direct uture
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: resources or even in some extreme cases resources to you.
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: How do you report that? Right in the reason I'm
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: stopping you there, Let's say you have a family member
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: that goals and it's off doing some wild still a
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: lot of times them themselves don't know that they're doing
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: wild stuff, but a family member might. How does that
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: family member report that to Instagram and say, Hey, my
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: sisters doing this, or my aunt is doing this, or
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: my brother is doing this. How does that work? So
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: in every post, be a photo, video or anything else
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: on Instagram, you can always report something. There's a little
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: dot dot Do you really check it? Because sometimes I
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: feel like it doesn't get checked because there's so many
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: people that make fake MV pages. I feel like every
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: day we've got room number, we definitely check it. But
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: the challenge is the truth is the reports are actually
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: mostly not of things that are problem. There's a ton
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: of people who are like, I don't like the way
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: I look in this photo, and I'm going to report it.
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, it's it's actually the vast Oh,
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: it's the vast majority, which is imagine that, Yeah, which
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: is why we can't rely only on the reports. We
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: definitely check the reports. We prioritize them, right, So if
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: someone's reporting someone's a risk to themselves, we're gonna look
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: at that much faster than someone's reporting something as being nudity,
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: for instance. But we have to also build technology ourselves
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: to go out and try and identify things, because if
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: someone's going to be a risk to themselves, that's where
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: you're going live and you're talking about hurting yourself. We
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: don't want to wait for someone to hopefully report that.
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: By the way, we don't have a religious opinion on
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: the female nipple. The reason why we don't allow nudaty
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: on Instagram is because it is actually a safety issue
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: because we can't verify age and we can't verify consent.
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: I think social media sometimes protects biggest though, it protects
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: biggest in regard to racism homophobia, because I've posted videos
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: of like racists getting punched in the face right for
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: blatantly being racist, and then Instagram we'll remove it. We
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: definitely make mistake. We also take a lot of flak
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: for letting people say a lot of crap that we
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: don't necessarily agree with in general, we're gonna try and
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: bias towards letting people say what they want on the platform,
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: and we try to only take content down when there's
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: a safety risk. Should the FCC regulate social media like
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: they do radio and TV? They can, and they should.
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: I think regulation is important. I think that social media
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: is too big to not have governments have an opinion
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: about what should and should not be. Okay. Now, the
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: type of regulation, though, is particularly important. Some regulation could
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: be really helpful, particularly clarifying what is and what is
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: not you know, a certain problem out of content type.
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: So for instance, we have a hate speech policy. Hate
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: speech protects people based on nine different types of traits,
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: so you know, race, gender, religion, the things you would expect.
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: That's our definition. But you have to be careful because
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: if you get too aggressive with regulation, or you write
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: regulation in certain ways, you might incentivize social platforms to
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: censor more. Right, if you're going to find them a
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: big amount every time they make a mistake and that's
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: something up, they're going to take down more because this
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: is their financial interest to do so. Now, another question
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: I have. You were talking about wanting to make sure
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: I saw you said that you wanted to make sure
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: that creatives actually start making more money on Instagram, and
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: I know they have like the tips that you can
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: do on YouTube and things like that. Yeah, what are
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: some ways that you guys? I see the Instagram ads
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: you can also sign up for, which I'm not one
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: hundred percent share what that is. So if you want
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: to explain how people can make money on Instagram, and
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: there's a range of ways we can help creators make
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: a living. Largely they fall into three categories. The first
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: is essentially commerce, So you can do branded content, right,
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: so you get paid by a brand off of Instagram
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: or off of Facebook, and then you do a deal
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: and your post on Instagram to promote whatever that is.
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: But then we also need to do things that allow
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: people to pay the creators that they love directly, right,
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: So we're interested in things like tipping. So we've got
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: badges for instance, when you go live right now exploring
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: if we can support subscripe. Maybe you could have a
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: group of people who pay you five bucks a month
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: and you get them exclusive content that only they get,
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: and you can do that right through Instagram. It's almost
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: like the only fans type of thing where you can
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: have a subscription, but now the stuff that they subscribe to,
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: can you put whatever you want up there now? Because
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: you know who your subscribers are, right, you know their age.
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: It's almost like you could take that now, you can
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: show a nipple, you know, because you know who your
- 1:20:21Speaker 1: subscribers are. All right, yes and no, So if there's
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: a safety issue, we're still going to have to take
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: it down. But I mean, for instance, we do do
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: age gating for certain types of content, so things like
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: today tobacco, that kind of thing. So we could we
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: could we could explore that we haven't actually talked about
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: that morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee shall I
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: mean the guy we are the Breakfast Club was still
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: kicking in with Adam Mosseri, the head of Instagram. Is
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: it a trick to it? Though? You know, at a
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: lot of people are like, hey, it's a trick when
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: I post my videos because sometimes I post a video
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: or picture and I get this amount of likes, and
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: then sometimes it's on this page and I get this
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: amount of likes. Yeah, like, you know, was a trick
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: to maybe. I'm like, I'm not giving up my tricks.
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: I would I'm trying to figure too. I've got an account,
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: I'm trying to build up my following. The unfortunate truth
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: is there's no perfect answer, and it's the million dollar question.
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: There are a couple of things I'd say. One is
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: it's important to first when you're using whether it's Instagram
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: or any other social media platform, to be intentional about
- 1:21:17Speaker 1: what you're using it for. Are using it to promote
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: a cause that you believe, and are using it as
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: a business directly, are using it to just build up
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: awareness of your business, and you make your money elsewhere.
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: The other thing to be honest about is that every
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: audience is different, right, So what's going to work best
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: for your followers isn't necessarily probably not going to work
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: with what's best for my followers. So you and I
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: both have to experiment. We've got to try things, see
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: what works, see what doesn't. But there are other things
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: that are more broadly true. So I do think it's
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: generally true to give people a good sense of what
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: you're about and what you do. So I try to
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: build up these sort of patterns. So I do a
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: video every week where I talk about what's happening on Instagram.
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: Video also this seems to be a lot of interest
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: across the entire world and always consuming more videos. So
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: some of those basics are more universal, but a lot
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: of it is more nuanced. Unfortunately, what is Instagram learning
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: from the black creators on TikTok so the black strike
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: on TikTok, Black credit struck on TikTok, I think is
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: mostly about credit right too often Black creators will create
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: amazing things and not creat credit for it, and someone else,
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: often not black, who will reap all the benefits. But
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: we're trying to understand not just that, but the broader
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: set of issues and the big set of issues that
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: we've heard from the black community here in the States
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: and over the last year and a half are things
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: around censorship, shadow banning, racism on the platform, having your
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: content taken down when you fight back against the bigot
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: or a racist. And so we feel like the credit
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: stuff that TikTok is dealing with is important and we're
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: looking we're working on that, but we really got to
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: first do better on the basics because we don't really
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: even have a right to play in like the creator
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: monetization space unless we can get better on the issues
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: around content takedowns, account suspensions like little Boosey. Yeah, okay,
- 1:23:02Speaker 1: you know, little Boozy gonna stop calling you out now
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: he's been saying you know who. Now surprise, I'm surprised
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: he hasn't sit them in my DM. You know now.
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: Adam was sorry, you guy right here. I can't wait
- 1:23:16Speaker 1: to see him later on. Adam Moossary, Adam Mossary. It's
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: Mossi with seven essays. Now what about limiting screen? No no,
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: why doesn't Boozy keep getting taken down? We gotta drug
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: the line somewhere and it's it's a nudity policy. We
- 1:23:32Speaker 1: try to be clear. You can appeal, but if you
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: get too many strikes to think you know what's nudity?
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: Because I flagged Kim Kardashi in ten thousand times. Remember
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: when Kim posted a picture Why would you do it?
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: Because they don't take cut down, but they take everybody
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: out there. So I flagged it. If she posts a
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: picture of nipples getting taken down. If the guy, no, guy,
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: this is one. This is one of my man. Nipples
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: are allowed, so I should be clear one of one
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: of one of my favorite tricks that people who are
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: sort of nudity advocates talk about One of my favorite
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: tricks that they do is they'll take a mail nipple,
- 1:24:08Speaker 1: cut it out, and paste the mail nipple on a
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: female's breast and post that just to test our policies.
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: If we figure it out, that's allowed. You know, This
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: is what it means to be a platform with as
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: much reach as we have, is you're gonna have people
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: try to push you and figure things out. Does Instagram
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: understanding cult it all? Right? Because you have people like
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: little Duvall Little Booty whose page always get taken down,
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: and it could be for doing things like using the
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: N word, but they're using it in like the context
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: of that's my N word, but it'll get taken down
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: for like racial slurs really like yeah, yeah. So it's
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: tough because no, we don't understand culture perfectly at all,
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: just super clear, you can't at our scale. And so
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: there are things where we just have to draw the
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: line or define a rule that is practical for us
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: to actually enforce, because the perfect rule is going to
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: be nuanced, but the perfect rule we cannot enforce accurately
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: and consider certainly tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: of times a day or whatever it is. And so yeah,
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: there are certain racial slurs that you cannot say on Instagram,
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: regardless of how you identify. Now, that's just because we
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: don't think we would be able to get it right
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: enough of the time. We would make too many mistakes otherwise,
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: and it's better for us to be transparent about the
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: rule and then be able to act accordingly. And you
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: can make your own decision. What about limiting screen time
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: because I know that was a discussion that people have.
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: You know, your phone will tell you how long you've
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: been on all of these apps. Is that something in
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: Instagram that people are concerned about? Like? Are you concerned
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: about that people being addicted and constantly on their phone?
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: I mean, for me, it's everything in moderation. But I
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: also want to be clear there's a difference between like addiction,
- 1:25:42Speaker 1: which is a compulsion to do something that is unhealthy
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: for you that you cannot stop, and just problematic use
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: or overuse people that are addicted to social media, though
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: some are and some just use it too much. And
- 1:25:52Speaker 1: so what we try to do is decide for the difference.
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: So if you're in a really problematic state, how can
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: we intervene? How can we let you know how much
- 1:25:58Speaker 1: time you're spending, etc. But if you're just using it
- 1:26:01Speaker 1: a lot, the things that we need to do might
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: be different. Replace what you say with cocaine, some people
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: aren't addictive, but some people just use it too much.
- 1:26:08Speaker 1: I don't know if I can talk about that same
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: thing with the same thing, because if you're using it
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: too much, you clearly have like a draw to it
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: that you can't control. Right, But I think cocaine is
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: a drug, and a drug has serious medical, you know, implications.
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: I think social media will in the future, I don't.
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: I think psychologically, emotionally, mentally, we do not. Even we're
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: not even scratching the surface of social media is impact
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: people in the future, I think that's reasonable. But I
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: also think that every new technology is first met with
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: a wave of optimism. People are really excited about what
- 1:26:38Speaker 1: it can do, then a huge wave of concern, and
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: then ideally you get to some sort of balance, and
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: by the way, as you get through it, the media
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: itself or the technology itself gets better. I think social
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: media is a technology that's just said earlier in that phase.
- 1:26:53Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm sure use of social media can affect
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: your health. Like because communicating with anyone can affect your health,
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: and social media is just a way to connect. Let's
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: talk about that because I feel like social media is
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: changing human behavior in real life, is making people's collective
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: attention spans decrease, is making people in secure. I think
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: it's fueling narcissism. So how do you make it a
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: more mentally healthy environment? I think that there's really three
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: types of work I personally think we have to do.
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: The first is to identify acute issues. You know, if
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: people who are at risk of self injury are becoming
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: more at risk, how do we address that. How do
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: we make sure that they can still do what a
- 1:27:31Speaker 1: lot of people who are struggling with self injury deal
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: on social media, which is get support, get help. It's
- 1:27:37Speaker 1: important to talk about your experience. Maybe you're you know,
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: your thirty days clean and you want to celebrate that.
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: How do we allow that content on Instagram without content
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: that celebrates self injury? So, you know, identify qute issues,
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: Identify solutions that work never ends, keep working there. Then
- 1:27:52Speaker 1: I think we need to identify areas where we can
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: go further, where we can be innovative, where we can
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: define new ways of addressing the issues. Like one of
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: the ones that we're been focused on for about two
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: years now, I was bullying, And so then what can
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: we do there? And there were trying to invent new things,
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: things like restricts. Right, restrict allows you to block someone
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: without you knowing about it. That's my favorite thing to
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: do because they're still posting, but they don't know that
- 1:28:14Speaker 1: no one can see it about them. Yeah, and so
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: that was from our work on bullying. But then the
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: third area is what are the core things about how
- 1:28:22Speaker 1: Instagram works or social media works that we need to rethink.
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: That's why we experimented with and made it so that
- 1:28:27Speaker 1: people could pick to have light counts to be private.
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: For instance, are there core things that we need to
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: rethink because they are creating too much bad or too
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: many problems and not enough good. What about taking away likes?
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: I remember that was a flirtatious idea. Yeah, so the
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: idea is to allow you to well, originally was to
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: hide light counts so you could still like things, but
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: it would be less of a popularity contest, but you
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: could see it but not everybody else. Yes, it turned
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: out to be really polarizing. It didn't seem to change
- 1:28:56Speaker 1: much about how people felt about Instagram. We tried to
- 1:28:59Speaker 1: see if it changed people well being. We try to
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: measure well being your question by asking people sending These
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: are surveys. So essentially we work with academics, professionals, experts
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: outside of the company who have defined all sorts of
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: ways of measuring well being. So what they did is
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: they designed a set of questions that whose answers correlate.
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: So if you if you say you have a support network,
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: if you say you are not lonely, these things correlate
- 1:29:23Speaker 1: with real world wellbeing outcomes over the long run. And
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: so then we try to run surveys on Instagram and
- 1:29:28Speaker 1: ask people those same questions, and we try to see
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: for things like hiding lightcounts that change how people answer
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: those questions. It didn't. But some people love this and
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: some people hated it. And so what we did is,
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: you said, all right, well, given that, let's give people
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: a choice. You can decide you can hide light counts
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: and not have to be part of your Instagram experience,
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: or you can have light counts. Well more, we have
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: more with the head of Instagram, Adam Musseri. When we
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: come back is the Breakfast Club, Good morning, the Breakfast Club,
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- 1:30:02Speaker 1: Adam Museri, the head of Instagram, tired of seeing if
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- 1:30:14Speaker 1: I didn't know where he was talking about it something
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- 1:30:19Speaker 1: I get that so much like this, like it's ridiculous
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: and why stops? Yeah, so some of this happens just
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: because we make the mistakes and we think you're interested
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: in things that you're not interested in. And so right
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: now you can say, right, all, yeah, why would why
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: would you think? Are the ads? Are there just a
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: regular like spam much like comments comments spam? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
- 1:30:50Speaker 1: you're talking about spam in the comments, right. I thought
- 1:30:54Speaker 1: you were talking about like in your explore. No, this
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- 1:31:26Speaker 1: it's no judgments, No, it's in the comment picture right
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: now and within spams. Yeah, so this is yeah, so
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: the bots and the spam comments. So we are working
- 1:31:42Speaker 1: on this. One of the things is we've made less
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: progress on this issue as some other issues because we've
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: prioritized things like safety issues. But we've gotten better at bots.
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: But the thing is the spammer is and the bots
- 1:31:53Speaker 1: they've gotten more sophisticated. So we do things we look like, okay,
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: if you comment every second of the day, twenty four
- 1:31:58Speaker 1: hours a day, you're not a person. You're so like,
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: we shut you down. But they've gotten sophisticated. They mask
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: themselves at different phones, they do it on different intervals,
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: they pretend to sleep, they do all of this stuff,
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: and so it's it's a it's an arms race, so
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: to speak. As we get better at addressing issues, they
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: work around those issues, and then we got to get
- 1:32:14Speaker 1: better addressing those new issues. I should hire them. They
- 1:32:16Speaker 1: seem pretty We try, we try, we know we try
- 1:32:19Speaker 1: what about getting verified? People always want to know how
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: can I get ver Yes, there's people that are like,
- 1:32:23Speaker 1: I can pay if you pay me, I can get
- 1:32:25Speaker 1: you a scam scam, No, don't um. So you can
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: apply in the app the point of verification though it's
- 1:32:37Speaker 1: not supposed to be a status symbol. It's supposed to
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: be a way for people who are getting impersonated to
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: be able to signal to the world what their real
- 1:32:46Speaker 1: account is. Now it's turned into a status symbol. I
- 1:32:48Speaker 1: get that, but that was not ever the intent. You
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: can apply in the app. What we look for essentially
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: is notability. We try to evaluate it using third parties,
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: so we basically look for press about you. There's no
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: in them follow our account. If you don't get approved
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: in the vast majority of the cases, it's because we
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: couldn't find enough press about you. Let's say I've search
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: cars and then all I'll get his cars, car car car,
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: car car car, or if I search your phones, or
- 1:33:14Speaker 1: I'll get his phone phone and phone phonell do you
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: guys do that? And can we take that off so
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: I don't have to see that all day long? Forgive
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: search and I can be talking about something we don't listen.
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: We don't listen. My wife thinks I'm a liar on
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: this too. It's a real cast and fight at the home.
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: Um okay, So on the search or on ads more broadly,
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: so this is this adds where this will happens. Ye,
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: they'll explore. It is a little tippy too, like if
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: I express a little bit too much interest in something,
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: I get a lot of that thing for a couple
- 1:33:40Speaker 1: of whiles. So we're trying to get to better um
- 1:33:43Speaker 1: balance there. But on ads you can't. You can go
- 1:33:46Speaker 1: to your ad preferences and you can say I'm interested in.
- 1:33:48Speaker 1: It will show you what we think you're interested in,
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: and you can change them. Um. And so that's over
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: undersettings under your profile and or ad preferences for listening.
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: We are not listening. It would be a gross violation
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: of policy. Would also drain your battery, your phone would
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: turn on like you would be able to know it.
- 1:34:01Speaker 1: But all the time we get accused of this. I
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: think what is happening is one sometimes the advertising is
- 1:34:07Speaker 1: actually working. Like you saw it a couple of times
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: and then you thought about it, and then you know,
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: and then you noticed it and you talked about it.
- 1:34:14Speaker 1: I don't have a bible to make you put you
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: I will put my hand on it. I don't know
- 1:34:20Speaker 1: how to I'm not going to convince you. Clearly that's
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: a weird thing to do. If you want me to
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: do it, I'll do it. Um. I think also is
- 1:34:30Speaker 1: that we don't just show you ads based on what
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: we know about you. We show you ads based on
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: you know what your friends seem to like. We call
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: that collaborative filtering. And ads are good, like we're good
- 1:34:41Speaker 1: at figuring out what you're interested in. We don't always
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: get it right. We make mistakes. I know a lot
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: of people don't like ads, but we think that ads
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: fundamentally they allow small businesses to play on an equal
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: playing field with big businesses. And then it woul happened
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: to you. Have you been talking about something then you
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: look down at your Instagram the ad for it pops up.
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: Not directly, no, but I've definitely they had things been like,
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: how the hell did we know I was interested in that?
- 1:35:03Speaker 1: How many meanings did you have to be in the president?
- 1:35:06Speaker 1: That was that a huge conversation. It was an intense conversation,
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: but it was an intensity of circumstances we didn't have
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: a policy for what happens when a sitting president incites
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: a riot to try to prevent the peaceful transfer of
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: power to a new president. There's sort of the new
- 1:35:23Speaker 1: territory for all of us lying this whole presidency. Though, yeah,
- 1:35:26Speaker 1: I could have took them down early on, right, But
- 1:35:28Speaker 1: we don't have a policy against lye. We have a
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: policy against lying when they're safety risks. You could make
- 1:35:34Speaker 1: that case here. But we also want to make sure
- 1:35:36Speaker 1: that politicians can get health accountable for their actions, and
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: so they've had historically in certain areas different rules, the
- 1:35:43Speaker 1: same way public figures have different rules. But that was
- 1:35:45Speaker 1: an intense moment, and we have this thing that we
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: call the Oversight Board now because a lot of these
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: decisions we think shouldn't be made by us directly, So
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: we sort of built this board. It's independent, and we
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: made this decision and then we asked them for their
- 1:35:59Speaker 1: opinion on it. Basically, um, they did. But what I
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: would have done, which they said, is like, yeah, we
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: would have banned them too, But you have to have
- 1:36:05Speaker 1: a policy. You can't just like do it something, you know,
- 1:36:08Speaker 1: as a one off. And I think that was fair.
- 1:36:10Speaker 1: And then we defined a policy now and he suspended
- 1:36:12Speaker 1: four two years. Who owns the pictures that you post?
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: Because it was a rumor that you own a pictures
- 1:36:17Speaker 1: so we own a pictures. Instagram does not own the pictures. Yeah,
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: once every year or two we get a false declaration
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: that like, you don't own your stuff and if you
- 1:36:26Speaker 1: repost this random chain letter, you own it and it
- 1:36:29Speaker 1: goes viral. But then we try to go on correct
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: that as quickly as possible and make sure people know
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: what the real rules are. I wonder about the intention.
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: I wonder what the intention was when they first started
- 1:36:39Speaker 1: a lot of these sites. But also when you see
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: Frankenstein becoming Frankenstein, when do you know, maybe it might
- 1:36:45Speaker 1: be time to take down Frankenstein's Frankenstein the whole thing.
- 1:36:49Speaker 1: At this point, it feels like it like when you
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: watch movies, like when you watch the communities, like the
- 1:36:53Speaker 1: Social Dilemma on Netflix. What goes through your mind that
- 1:36:56Speaker 1: specific one, though, I felt like it was a little
- 1:36:58Speaker 1: bit dramatic triplet programmers like in a Star Trek place
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: deciding what you see is clearly on how things work.
- 1:37:05Speaker 1: But overall I thought they were bringing up in portant
- 1:37:07Speaker 1: issues that should be talked about. I thought that's a
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: healthy thing. Now, Look I'm biased. I want to recognize
- 1:37:12Speaker 1: that up front, but I really believe that we do
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: a lot of good in the world. We help a
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: lot of people express themselves. We help them go straight
- 1:37:19Speaker 1: to their fans or to the or to their friends,
- 1:37:22Speaker 1: they don't have to go to traditional media. We will
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: help small businesses around the world. We help marginalized communities
- 1:37:27Speaker 1: around the world in a lot of ways. But there's
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: bad that comes to now. I think there's more good
- 1:37:31Speaker 1: than bad. So I don't think that it makes sense that,
- 1:37:34Speaker 1: you know, put a bullet in Frankenstein to use your
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: metaphor right the playing field for people too in a
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: huge way. Like I love to see how like a
- 1:37:40Speaker 1: Lala Milan or a DC young Fly, how some of
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: these creators have been able to really use social media
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: to get the platforms that they have now. But then
- 1:37:48Speaker 1: I hate qing on and then I hate the fact
- 1:37:50Speaker 1: that there was an attempted cool of the government on January.
- 1:37:53Speaker 1: So it's like, I really feel like we're headed do
- 1:37:54Speaker 1: some orson wells war the world type because of nobody
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: cares about the truth on social media when the lives
- 1:38:00Speaker 1: more entertained. Well, I think confirmation bias is a thing,
- 1:38:03Speaker 1: and that's the oldest time. People want to hear what
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: they agree with and they don't want to hear what
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: they don't agree with. Just give me the keys to
- 1:38:09Speaker 1: the nuclear code. Just tell me. Just give me and
- 1:38:12Speaker 1: I can just go in and delete pages. That's it.
- 1:38:14Speaker 1: I can do that. I got time. It's a lot
- 1:38:17Speaker 1: of people, it's a lot of I got it. Just
- 1:38:19Speaker 1: give me the keys to the nuclear code. But the
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: concerns you have, like I said before, we had those
- 1:38:23Speaker 1: concerns about every major new technology, particularly around the ones
- 1:38:27Speaker 1: that change how people communicate. One of the big concerns
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: about writing when it first existed was that there was
- 1:38:31Speaker 1: no one there to disagree with you. Well, those people
- 1:38:33Speaker 1: get held liable though, Like you can sue an author
- 1:38:36Speaker 1: for playing the defamation. That's why they take to change
- 1:38:38Speaker 1: names in books and things of that nature. But for
- 1:38:40Speaker 1: certain issues, yeah, But for other issues, no, you could
- 1:38:42Speaker 1: say something, you can make a case for something that
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: is really problematic in a bunch of different ways, put
- 1:38:47Speaker 1: it out there and it doesn't violate along in any country.
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: You can sue for defamation on social media too. Though, right,
- 1:38:53Speaker 1: if somebody says something about you that's defamatory and not true. Yeah,
- 1:38:56Speaker 1: I think the question is who's accountable is the person
- 1:39:00Speaker 1: who said it or the platforms or the platform And
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: I think the platforms need to be held accountable for
- 1:39:05Speaker 1: taking not just reasonable, but like meaningful measures to reduce
- 1:39:09Speaker 1: these problems. I don't think it's sustainable for us to
- 1:39:12Speaker 1: be accountable for everything everybody says, because if we were,
- 1:39:16Speaker 1: we would have to take down so much content that
- 1:39:20Speaker 1: you would have a huge censorship issue. We appreciate you
- 1:39:22Speaker 1: for joining us so little do I mean little Boozy's
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- 1:39:29Speaker 1: know off the top of that. I'll look it up though. Okay,
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- 1:43:24Speaker 1: today is all about giving people to credit they deserve
- 1:43:26Speaker 1: for being stupid. If you read my first book, the
- 1:43:28Speaker 1: New York Times best selling Black Privilege, and you know
- 1:43:30Speaker 1: one of my laws in my book was always give
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: people to credit they deserve for being stupid, including yourself.
- 1:43:36Speaker 1: And that's what I'm doing right now. The reason I
- 1:43:38Speaker 1: feel stupid is because I was writing in the work
- 1:43:40Speaker 1: this morning, listening to the New South playlists on a
- 1:43:42Speaker 1: title bro. There's some records on there that make my
- 1:43:45Speaker 1: inner child smile. I mean, there are records on there
- 1:43:48Speaker 1: that make the hood and me happy. Okay, I'm from
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: South Carolina the eight four three eight or three eighty
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: six four. When you come from a certain environment, there
- 1:43:54Speaker 1: is a certain energy that is always in you. And
- 1:43:57Speaker 1: when you listen to certain music, certain music is so
- 1:43:59Speaker 1: powerful and it would just have you feeling like you
- 1:44:02Speaker 1: something you're not. Okay, that's what Pooh shysty guard Up
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: did for me. Okay, that's play pool shasty guard Um.
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: Let me here a little bit of that man comes
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: up to bunt up on the key to car members
- 1:44:18Speaker 1: of the early Somebody think I applied gold Team so
- 1:44:24Speaker 1: I can put them in my mouth. Okay, That's what
- 1:44:27Speaker 1: Off the Porch by by by kid Glock did for
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: me this morning, Evey, I was listening to the Roaring
- 1:44:31Speaker 1: Twenties by Flow Million. Did my dog Little Boss from
- 1:44:34Speaker 1: North Chalton, southcare Lotty. He's on the New South title
- 1:44:36Speaker 1: playlist and you've got a song called I Know It.
- 1:44:38Speaker 1: He from the same state as me. He from the Chuck.
- 1:44:40Speaker 1: How could I not be influenced? Okay, how can I
- 1:44:44Speaker 1: not be? You know what I feel like right now?
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: I'm at the point where I'm like a wax on
- 1:44:49Speaker 1: minutes to society sleut to the good brother MCA. Make
- 1:44:52Speaker 1: sure y'all check out that gangst the Chronicles podcast on
- 1:44:54Speaker 1: the Black Effect. I heart radio Network. I'm like a wax.
- 1:44:56Speaker 1: I don't did so much dirt that I just like
- 1:44:58Speaker 1: to see other people do it. I like to hear,
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: I like to feel it. I like to see it.
- 1:45:02Speaker 1: But I'm not doing it, and you don't have to
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: hear certain records and it takes you back to your
- 1:45:07Speaker 1: old while out days. Yes, so I'm not alone here? Then, yeah,
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: you are a little bit alone. I mean why why
- 1:45:13Speaker 1: why am I alone? Because you have a ski mask
- 1:45:15Speaker 1: on and you've been saying on slide you judging me
- 1:45:17Speaker 1: some on God? Why are waiting a gun? Happy and
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: fake gun? You're right, let me put that away, Okay,
- 1:45:23Speaker 1: I'm just saying it really makes you think about the
- 1:45:25Speaker 1: influence this music is having on the youth, because they
- 1:45:27Speaker 1: influenced my big grown ass this morning. But not because
- 1:45:30Speaker 1: they might rap about violence of doing criminal activities and
- 1:45:33Speaker 1: gang stuff, but because it's fun. It's just fun. I mean,
- 1:45:39Speaker 1: listen to these country rapus play some of that key
- 1:45:40Speaker 1: clock off the porch. Just listen. It's like, Hey, I
- 1:45:43Speaker 1: jumped off the porch. Then I jumped in the book.
- 1:45:45Speaker 1: I used to wrap this piece and now I got
- 1:45:46Speaker 1: a new coopet humble, but I'm playing it out cool,
- 1:45:49Speaker 1: but don't get this shit on the news. Hey, come
- 1:45:52Speaker 1: on home, man, But hey, play some of that flow
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: Milly Roaring twenties, and I'm gonna tell you something. You know,
- 1:45:58Speaker 1: I'm all about to sacred masculine and the divine feminine. Okay,
- 1:46:02Speaker 1: this right here is for the divine hood ratting all
- 1:46:04Speaker 1: of us play some of the rowing attorneys by floor Millie, okay,
- 1:46:12Speaker 1: making me feeling. Come home man, that for all the
- 1:46:17Speaker 1: negroes that want to do the Busteed challenge. But our
- 1:46:19Speaker 1: needs not what they used to be. Okay, okay you hey,
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: play a snippet of my dog little Boss. Okay, I
- 1:46:27Speaker 1: know it South Carolina all day. Come on now, she said,
- 1:46:31Speaker 1: like when I saw something first one I woke up
- 1:46:33Speaker 1: and I said, I know more now she said, she
- 1:46:35Speaker 1: like counster and I'm getting that money And I said,
- 1:46:37Speaker 1: I know It're like got that bag on back and
- 1:46:39Speaker 1: that's funny, man, And they're like at that scrap on
- 1:46:42Speaker 1: because I know that they after me. That's when I
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: saw some now and do you feel me fly on trap? Okay,
- 1:46:53Speaker 1: you do it, yo, dramas on guiding them. Give me
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: the biggest he hall okay and take me to court
- 1:47:01Speaker 1: right now. This guy forgot these forty years old, has
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: three forty two, it has three kids. I need to
- 1:47:06Speaker 1: go to breakfast club called put me on trial right now.
- 1:47:09Speaker 1: Make me sit in my old ass down somewhere. Ladies
- 1:47:11Speaker 1: and gentlemen call us up right now. Eight hundred five
- 1:47:13Speaker 1: A five one than five one now, Charlomne the guy
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: a k A. Leonard mckelby, a k A fake ass
- 1:47:19Speaker 1: crift ak A fake ass live a k A six
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: D reincarnated. Does he have a problem right now? Is
- 1:47:25Speaker 1: he to be having music influenced him like this? Right now?
- 1:47:30Speaker 1: He has a ski mask on. He's been saying bad
- 1:47:32Speaker 1: black with his little shoot two two two gun that
- 1:47:34Speaker 1: he has in his hand. That's a fake gun. That's
- 1:47:36Speaker 1: his finger. I'm holding his sideways too, then what it's
- 1:47:39Speaker 1: throw with him? Right now? You'll stay away from me?
- 1:47:42Speaker 1: Eight D five A five one than five. Is this
- 1:47:44Speaker 1: guy too oh to be having music influenced him like that? Oh?
- 1:47:48Speaker 1: Way too? Only be having music influenced us like that?
- 1:47:50Speaker 1: Because I can take what um gang stuff with um blood,
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: what um cub um gang. What I'm saying, you take
- 1:48:02Speaker 1: take it by ba ba bay, that's right to take
- 1:48:08Speaker 1: it back to dirty queens. And that's what I'm talking about.
- 1:48:11Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about, all right. It's the breakfast club,
- 1:48:14Speaker 1: go morning. She she came, but she's gonna slide right
- 1:48:24Speaker 1: to my side. I ain't know. She pulled up with
- 1:48:27Speaker 1: her friends. Then we skirt off in the bend. Took
- 1:48:32Speaker 1: her back to my crib, and I regretted. She trying
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: to feel like she asleep, so she tried to stay
- 1:48:41Speaker 1: the whole week. I'm like, whole Nah, she gotta go
- 1:48:44Speaker 1: ask me a name as well. I don't even know.
- 1:48:46Speaker 1: They want to know why to kill them. They by them.
- 1:48:49Speaker 1: I ain't green. They might your ship about me. They
- 1:48:51Speaker 1: want to know why I didn't love them so much?
- 1:48:54Speaker 1: Like what is the reason? It's just the vibe dot com.
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: She but herles in the sky whenever I look. She
- 1:49:03Speaker 1: got her clothes off from the book and she won't
- 1:49:05Speaker 1: waste no time for you know and nobody else. I know,
- 1:49:10Speaker 1: but I ain't can't be what she wants, stay or
- 1:49:12Speaker 1: have the same story they I'm gonna mee to themselves.
- 1:49:17Speaker 1: But I'm a jealous to see thee my palace. What
- 1:49:20Speaker 1: I'm gonna do because I want she and she and
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: she and they loved them some me. I ain't agree.
- 1:49:28Speaker 1: They're gonna say, bite you. I ain't you gotta lie
- 1:49:31Speaker 1: to I ain't even do that. You could trust on
- 1:49:33Speaker 1: speaker when you're with your people, because you know the timing.
- 1:49:36Speaker 1: I'm home. I ain't wanna she and she and she
- 1:49:40Speaker 1: and they loved them some me. I can't even speed
- 1:49:45Speaker 1: to all them. So I call her on the FaceTime.
- 1:49:47Speaker 1: She gonna pick up on the first ring. We gotta
- 1:49:50Speaker 1: rather my damn finger. I will ever tell us so
- 1:49:54Speaker 1: on on on Girl we Bro Life of a Goddess.
- 1:49:59Speaker 1: It's topic top the phone called eight hundred five eight
- 1:50:06Speaker 1: five one oh five. Want to join it to the
- 1:50:07Speaker 1: discussion with the breakfast club. Talk about it morning, everybody
- 1:50:11Speaker 1: in stej Envy Angela, yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are
- 1:50:15Speaker 1: the breakfast club. Now if you just joined as Charlemagne
- 1:50:18Speaker 1: came to work this morning, a little um under the influence, yeah,
- 1:50:23Speaker 1: under the under the influence of country rap tunbs. Okay,
- 1:50:27Speaker 1: I deserve to be in breakfast Club Court. This morning,
- 1:50:29Speaker 1: I feel stupid. I've been in here gang banging on
- 1:50:33Speaker 1: the radio and I just feel like I'm too old
- 1:50:35Speaker 1: and still be influenced by music. Ital I promise you.
- 1:50:37Speaker 1: It literally was the New South Playlist on title listening
- 1:50:41Speaker 1: to stuff like key Glock off the Porch and my
- 1:50:43Speaker 1: Man Little Boss. I know it and you know, pooh
- 1:50:47Speaker 1: shsty guard up. It really really, really really took me
- 1:50:51Speaker 1: to a place that I absolutely enjoy. Yeah. So so
- 1:50:55Speaker 1: we're asking if Charlemagne, are we all too old to
- 1:50:58Speaker 1: be uh influenced by me music? Right now? I don't
- 1:51:01Speaker 1: think so. Bro, you know what I'm saying. I really
- 1:51:03Speaker 1: don't And I have no reason for saying that other
- 1:51:06Speaker 1: than I just really enjoy it. Are we going through
- 1:51:08Speaker 1: a middle life practice? I don't think so. You still,
- 1:51:10Speaker 1: you know, like Charlemagne, you have a ski mask drink
- 1:51:14Speaker 1: drinking Starbucks? Like? What is that? It's called balance? Is
- 1:51:18Speaker 1: that a boogie gangster? Like? What it's called balance? Think?
- 1:51:21Speaker 1: Game bankers don't need caffeine, But I don't know you
- 1:51:24Speaker 1: need energy to do a drive by too? Okay, you
- 1:51:26Speaker 1: think I have just put money on people's head without uh,
- 1:51:28Speaker 1: you know, a little latte Okay, Hello, who's this? This
- 1:51:32Speaker 1: is hey Virginia. You know you know your boy's up
- 1:51:35Speaker 1: here with a ski mask on, drinking a latte. I
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: love it with a pinky in the AD's a little weird.
- 1:51:41Speaker 1: We have to lift, we have to do. I'm for three.
- 1:51:44Speaker 1: I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. Hey, I'll be in my car
- 1:51:47Speaker 1: and sometimes I'll be you know, I could be a
- 1:51:51Speaker 1: fuck I could be a sweetheart. But listen, keep doing it.
- 1:51:54Speaker 1: Thank you, baby, That's what I'm talking about. Jackie Killed, Florida. Hello,
- 1:52:02Speaker 1: who's this guy's crazy? John? Hey? John? What are you
- 1:52:05Speaker 1: calling from? Called from Florida? Yell? You know what, I
- 1:52:08Speaker 1: don't think it's a good thing when you got a
- 1:52:09Speaker 1: bunch of Florida people around. John Charlota Mane has a
- 1:52:12Speaker 1: ski mask on on right now, he's drinking a latte
- 1:52:14Speaker 1: with his pinky in the finger. I don't know what
- 1:52:17Speaker 1: he wants to do with that pinky. I don't know,
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: but but you think his ass is too old? Fallers, man,
- 1:52:23Speaker 1: sit your old ass down somewhere. Man, how old are you, sir?
- 1:52:27Speaker 1: I'm thirty three. Oh you're thirty three? Okay, you're still
- 1:52:30Speaker 1: living out your old wild out days. You're still cheating
- 1:52:32Speaker 1: on your girl. I did that. I did that when
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: I was swing. I got arrested phot times and one year. Congratulations.
- 1:52:37Speaker 1: What was the biggest charge? The biggest one was a
- 1:52:40Speaker 1: home invasion. What music were you listening to when you
- 1:52:43Speaker 1: did that home invasion? I'm for Florida, man, I listen
- 1:52:46Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Man, y'all, I don't even know applies. Okay,
- 1:52:49Speaker 1: you know probably Kodak. Now that was that was a
- 1:52:52Speaker 1: while ago. That was a while ago. All right, go
- 1:52:54Speaker 1: that's the middle school that there. But you got your
- 1:52:56Speaker 1: life together now? Yeah, definitely definitely that you got a family.
- 1:53:00Speaker 1: You're right that boy, brother, thank you? You know what
- 1:53:02Speaker 1: got that? When you say that once you once you
- 1:53:04Speaker 1: see that, once you add that you got a family.
- 1:53:07Speaker 1: That's like when a gang banger say on God and them,
- 1:53:09Speaker 1: he gonna do something to you want somebody tell you,
- 1:53:12Speaker 1: sit you all down, you got a family. That's when
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: you get back through reality. He right, Hello, Christian out
- 1:53:18Speaker 1: of fully Hey, Christian out of Philly. Good morning Christian. Now,
- 1:53:20Speaker 1: now Charlottagne, is ass too old to be wilding out
- 1:53:24Speaker 1: to this music? No, I don't know that's what you're
- 1:53:26Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. Listen, it's balance of life. It's
- 1:53:28Speaker 1: the yang and the yang, It's the drug deal and
- 1:53:30Speaker 1: a professional because every morning I'm listening to King King Vond,
- 1:53:32Speaker 1: I'm from fully and I'm not from I do that
- 1:53:36Speaker 1: every morning and then I do my professional nine to
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: five and when I come home with Zaca, Jackal Felliman
- 1:53:41Speaker 1: and all of that. So you need balance, a balance.
- 1:53:43Speaker 1: I agree with you. Ratchetness and righteousness is the right exactly.
- 1:53:48Speaker 1: I'm with you with music too. I'm with you because
- 1:53:52Speaker 1: because I did the same thing. I woke up this morning,
- 1:53:54Speaker 1: I meditated, I had my beads in my hand, I
- 1:53:56Speaker 1: was doing my mantras and then I'm going to therapy
- 1:53:58Speaker 1: at three o'clock. But when I was dripping in the work,
- 1:54:00Speaker 1: it was them country rap tunes. Bro Listen, We're moving
- 1:54:03Speaker 1: a weight, were moving away. I really like that work.
- 1:54:09Speaker 1: All up and down ninety five. We got our page
- 1:54:14Speaker 1: and waves. We are professionals. With our parents, we have
- 1:54:17Speaker 1: our pta, they love us, but we curved up. That's
- 1:54:20Speaker 1: what you gotta do. What you you, Joe, you sell
- 1:54:23Speaker 1: drugs in the morning, right hair for me doing it,
- 1:54:26Speaker 1: and that's right. She's representing for all the people out
- 1:54:31Speaker 1: there who still want to do the Bucket Challenge, but
- 1:54:33Speaker 1: that needs not what they used to be. But we
- 1:54:35Speaker 1: out chair babies because I'm a mama and I'm not
- 1:54:38Speaker 1: posting it. Hey, let's go Hello. Who's this? Yo? The kids?
- 1:54:44Speaker 1: It from Arcosol? Gag game? Bro? What's up? Bro? How
- 1:54:48Speaker 1: old are you can't I'm putting brokay ban see y'all day.
- 1:54:54Speaker 1: I'll bank that see y'a all day. I don't even
- 1:54:56Speaker 1: know what that means. What's that means? Bro? That's that's
- 1:54:59Speaker 1: right Christ? With that? I thought the seeds for Christ
- 1:55:03Speaker 1: all day. So when you're banging the Christ, when you're
- 1:55:06Speaker 1: throwing up that that seat for Christ? Hey, south gang,
- 1:55:09Speaker 1: what do you listen to? I listened to I ain't
- 1:55:12Speaker 1: gonna lie Young Thug, whole lie. I listen to Drake.
- 1:55:16Speaker 1: I listened know. I ain't gonna lie. You know, I
- 1:55:18Speaker 1: told some uh, I thought some maybe y'all Adams maybe?
- 1:55:22Speaker 1: And I like the balance. I love the balance King
- 1:55:25Speaker 1: from Young Thug to Orlanda Adams. I love the balance.
- 1:55:28Speaker 1: Now you you got you nine? Charlotta made forty two.
- 1:55:34Speaker 1: Charlotte maybe be banging out this every morning? Yeah he can,
- 1:55:37Speaker 1: he can he can have balance. He can bang right,
- 1:55:40Speaker 1: bang left. That's right in the middle, right, right, middle. Yo,
- 1:55:46Speaker 1: you can tell his daughter Joe kid clean kitchen. That's
- 1:55:49Speaker 1: right on this on the set, Oh my goodness, on
- 1:55:53Speaker 1: the set. You better have that kitchen clean. Hello. Who's this? Yes? Hi? Right?
- 1:55:58Speaker 1: Listen this from the dead be in Ohio now in
- 1:56:01Speaker 1: Charlemagne too, only be Gang Gang in this morning. I'd
- 1:56:05Speaker 1: have to second emotion, yes, but I have to add
- 1:56:08Speaker 1: myself put too. I'd be thinking, I'm just ratchet. You
- 1:56:11Speaker 1: talk about Luda Pete popping. Oh my god, I'm thirty
- 1:56:14Speaker 1: three years out with two kids that I had me going.
- 1:56:16Speaker 1: I ain't ever peep popping out life. But I can't
- 1:56:18Speaker 1: work talking about Gucci and Jeezy, I'll be talking I'm
- 1:56:21Speaker 1: about to shoot somebody when I'm made years off. No, yes,
- 1:56:25Speaker 1: you do have your momas. They do influence. Shoo. Now listen,
- 1:56:28Speaker 1: Jeez and Gucci. That was our error. We were still
- 1:56:30Speaker 1: in our old wild out days when they was in
- 1:56:32Speaker 1: their prime. These new these these new negroes different, these
- 1:56:35Speaker 1: new Negroes to take you someplace even further than Jeez
- 1:56:39Speaker 1: and Gucci. Them didn't they're telling you they didn't have
- 1:56:42Speaker 1: you on way literally and don't you and don't act
- 1:56:45Speaker 1: like you ain't never did no people off because you
- 1:56:47Speaker 1: said you got three kids. Okay, honey, I got to
- 1:56:50Speaker 1: and I have, but I don't know how to do
- 1:56:51Speaker 1: it on my hand stand. Clearly don't know how to
- 1:56:53Speaker 1: do something that man whoever you like. Then, baby daddies
- 1:56:56Speaker 1: you got to do eli. They're doing fluid doing fluid
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: from and I have my rapting moments too when I've
- 1:57:02Speaker 1: been a food bus driker for eight years. The them
- 1:57:07Speaker 1: baby daddys you got released their ancestors in you for
- 1:57:09Speaker 1: a reason. You know how to pop something on something? Honey.
- 1:57:12Speaker 1: Yes we're not on the hand stand right but on
- 1:57:15Speaker 1: a back dad stand. Okay, I'm telling you all right,
- 1:57:20Speaker 1: well don't move. Happy Holidays. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
- 1:57:23Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We
- 1:57:27Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. All right, Well, you got a
- 1:57:30Speaker 1: positive note positive notice simply this. Maybe you're not healing
- 1:57:34Speaker 1: because you're trying to be who you were before the trauma.
- 1:57:37Speaker 1: That person doesn't exist anymore because there's a new you
- 1:57:40Speaker 1: trying to be born. Breathe life into that person. Breakfast
- 1:57:43Speaker 1: club you finish with, y'all dumb