Latest / Red Onion Randy - Life in a Supermax Prison / ROR 149: The LA Wildfires
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hello, this is a prebate call from and if make
- 0:06Speaker 1: it to present a Department of Correction read an in
- 0:09Speaker 1: state prison to accept this all crass zero.
- 0:18Speaker 2: This is Randall Bob currently serving one thousand, two hundred
- 0:22Speaker 2: and fourteen years for capital murder on Roberts, currently being
- 0:26Speaker 2: housed at key Mount Correctional Center in Oakwood, Virginia, US A.
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- 1:03Speaker 2: get started with the podcast. They I'm gonna talk about
- 1:10Speaker 2: the uh, the California wildfires, UH from an inmate's perspective,
- 1:19Speaker 2: from a political perspective, and from just kind of just
- 1:22Speaker 2: the way I see it. You know, first of all,
- 1:30Speaker 2: my condolences goes out to those who you know, lost
- 1:33Speaker 2: family members, you know who lost everything. You know. That's
- 1:41Speaker 2: that's that's a terrible blow to take. And then to
- 1:46Speaker 2: make it even worse from what I've seen on TV,
- 1:51Speaker 2: is you have people are using it to make political points,
- 1:59Speaker 2: and that's utterly ridiculously. I don't I can't remember the
- 2:04Speaker 2: guy's name, but they had him on newstation and he
- 2:08Speaker 2: came out and said, well, this is what the elitist
- 2:12Speaker 2: left have been wanting. They got answers to their prayers.
- 2:17Speaker 2: He burned out the colonizers in Hollywood. What an asinine
- 2:26Speaker 2: thing to say. People lost family members, people lost their homes,
- 2:33Speaker 2: And you think this is an opportunity to take a
- 2:38Speaker 2: political shot at the left, And you wonder why the
- 2:43Speaker 2: country is so fucked up. You wonder why we can't
- 2:48Speaker 2: never get the Democrats and Republicans to work together in
- 2:51Speaker 2: government and actually do something productive for a change. Literally,
- 3:00Speaker 2: the last time that the two parties have worked together
- 3:05Speaker 2: was World War Two. There's been nothing but infighting ever since.
- 3:10Speaker 2: There's been nothing but urgend orig and to ourgen and
- 3:15Speaker 2: it's because of people like you. Dude. You are an asshole.
- 3:23Speaker 2: And I really really hope something bad happens to you.
- 3:27Speaker 2: I hope you. I hope your house burns down because
- 3:34Speaker 2: you took somebody else's tragedy and you turned it into
- 3:39Speaker 2: a political meme. And yet people have the audacity to
- 3:50Speaker 2: call criminals criminals. But yet, every single person in here
- 3:54Speaker 2: that I've spoken to about this situation, you can actually
- 3:59Speaker 2: see the frustration in their eyes that there's nothing they
- 4:02Speaker 2: can do. Yeah, there's a lot of selfish people in here.
- 4:12Speaker 2: But even with that being said, I never once heard
- 4:16Speaker 2: a single person in here say anything other than supportive
- 4:23Speaker 2: of what those people are going through. Now you want
- 4:27Speaker 2: to look at it from a political point of view,
- 4:32Speaker 2: I can do that because there is something I've noticed.
- 4:38Speaker 2: I've seen numerous wildfires strike this country in my forty
- 4:44Speaker 2: six years of living, and the only time I've seen
- 4:51Speaker 2: them get this kind of media coverage, it is only
- 4:59Speaker 2: when it markets the rich and the famous, the celebrities
- 5:04Speaker 2: and so on and so forth. Let's look at hurricanes
- 5:12Speaker 2: Helene for a second. Let's just take a step back
- 5:14Speaker 2: to the last natural disaster we had. I'm living in
- 5:20Speaker 2: that area, Oakwood, Virginia. Yeah, we didn't get hit as
- 5:26Speaker 2: bad as a lot of other areas, especially in western
- 5:30Speaker 2: North Carolina, but I know a lot of CEOs here
- 5:39Speaker 2: that was in They were directly impacted, They lost homes,
- 5:46Speaker 2: they lost family members, and yet I didn't see the
- 5:51Speaker 2: Red Cross commercials popping up during the football games to
- 5:54Speaker 2: help them. Granted I only had fifteen television stations, and
- 5:59Speaker 2: those television stations suck ass. But for the fire that
- 6:06Speaker 2: was threatening, you know, celebrities homes Jennifer Garner and so
- 6:13Speaker 2: on and so forth, Kamala Harris, and you know their neighborhoods,
- 6:18Speaker 2: which I don't think any of their homes actually burned down.
- 6:21Speaker 2: Is mostly just middle class and poor people who actually
- 6:24Speaker 2: suffered the brunt of it. But yeah, you still got
- 6:30Speaker 2: people in southwest Virginia and western Carolina still have no home.
- 6:44Speaker 2: They're still living out of a small suitcase with two
- 6:48Speaker 2: or three chains to clothing. They're still living on the
- 6:51Speaker 2: charity of the people from this area because I haven't
- 6:55Speaker 2: seen or even heard any of the people that live here.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Staff members talk about the government coming in and helping them,
- 7:06Speaker 2: helping them to rebuild, helping them to do this. Oh yeah,
- 7:09Speaker 2: they're they're repairing some of the roads and what have you.
- 7:13Speaker 2: But they're they're not helping people rebuild houses. There was
- 7:18Speaker 2: no hundreds of millions of dollars raised for them. But
- 7:28Speaker 2: yet you've got this wildfire in Hollywood, in LA and
- 7:36Speaker 2: yet everybody is turning up to help them. If you're
- 7:43Speaker 2: going to make a political point, make it on something
- 7:48Speaker 2: like that. Why the disparity between the two different regions,
- 7:54Speaker 2: Why the disparity between the two different socioeconomic classes in
- 7:59Speaker 2: this country? The rich, famous person's house is in danger
- 8:05Speaker 2: of burning down, and oh my god, we have to
- 8:08Speaker 2: stop the fucking presses. We must do something to help
- 8:12Speaker 2: this rich person because they can't possibly rebuild. But yet
- 8:18Speaker 2: you have tens of thousands of Appalachians and they just
- 8:24Speaker 2: gotta suck it up and deal with it the best
- 8:26Speaker 2: they can, because ain't nobody gonna raise a hand to
- 8:28Speaker 2: do shit for them. If you're going to make a
- 8:31Speaker 2: political point, at least make it a legitimate political point,
- 8:37Speaker 2: not a half assed colonizer joke. Now, one of the
- 8:50Speaker 2: things that has come out about this fire, which I
- 8:54Speaker 2: thought was really interesting and pretty cool, though a little
- 8:58Speaker 2: sad at the same time, you have inmate firefighters. First
- 9:05Speaker 2: of all, that's pretty cool, you know, because I actually
- 9:09Speaker 2: knew a coo at Red Onion. He worked there for
- 9:12Speaker 2: about eleven months and then he just like, you know what,
- 9:15Speaker 2: I can't take this, I'm quitting and he just he
- 9:18Speaker 2: walked out. But before he started working for Red Onion,
- 9:23Speaker 2: that's what he did. He was one of those uh
- 9:28Speaker 2: I can't damn, I can't remember exactly what they're called,
- 9:30Speaker 2: but one of the jumpers. They would actually parachute ensue
- 9:35Speaker 2: the forest fires and you know, create fire breaks and
- 9:39Speaker 2: do what they could to battle the fires. And just
- 9:45Speaker 2: listening to him tell me the stories, you know, talking
- 9:48Speaker 2: about the camaraderie, the danger, the adrenaline and you know,
- 9:55Speaker 2: just everything that goes along with him like that would
- 9:58Speaker 2: be pretty freaking cool. So you know, if Virginia ever
- 10:01Speaker 2: started a program, I would volunteer for it in a heartbeat.
- 10:06Speaker 2: I can guarantee they wouldn't give it to me. But
- 10:10Speaker 2: you know, hell, I can't even get transferred to the
- 10:12Speaker 2: incentive prisoner. And I've been almost twenty years charge three,
- 10:16Speaker 2: so that's not surprising there. But this is the thing.
- 10:22Speaker 2: You've got. Prisoners are willing to risk their lives to
- 10:28Speaker 2: put out these fires. That said something about them how
- 10:34Speaker 2: many people And look people could sit there and say, oh, yeah, well,
- 10:39Speaker 2: they're only doing it for the twenty seven dollars a
- 10:42Speaker 2: day all right. Well, first of all, they only make
- 10:45Speaker 2: twenty seven dollars a day when there's an actual fire
- 10:48Speaker 2: that they're fighting against, So that fire is lasted ten
- 10:53Speaker 2: eleven days, so we're just going to say ten, just
- 10:57Speaker 2: to be on the safe side. That's two hundred and
- 10:59Speaker 2: seventy dollars. They risk their life for two hundred and
- 11:05Speaker 2: seventy dollars. They worse, they'll because believe me, I would
- 11:09Speaker 2: much rather die in a forest fire or a house fire,
- 11:12Speaker 2: or any other kind of fire than have to sit
- 11:15Speaker 2: there and just walk around and live with first, second
- 11:19Speaker 2: or third degree burns for the rest of my life,
- 11:23Speaker 2: to live with that constant pain. So trust me, these people,
- 11:30Speaker 2: and I know inmates, I know prisoners better than most.
- 11:34Speaker 2: They're not doing it for twenty seven dollars a day.
- 11:37Speaker 2: They're not risking their life for two hundred and seventy dollars,
- 11:42Speaker 2: especially when the legitimate firefighters, wildland fighters, whatever you call them,
- 11:51Speaker 2: are getting paid ten times that amount, because I can
- 11:57Speaker 2: tell you right now, they get paid greedy, damn good money.
- 12:07Speaker 2: And the interesting thing is they go through these programs,
- 12:11Speaker 2: they learn how to do this, and they actually go
- 12:15Speaker 2: out and they do a good job and See that's
- 12:19Speaker 2: the thing right there. People. You have a lot of
- 12:24Speaker 2: states they just have prisoners just sitting in a pause
- 12:29Speaker 2: watching TV or playing a video game, or reading a book,
- 12:34Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be. And it's dead Tom,
- 12:38Speaker 2: it's dead Tom. But yet you have these certain guys
- 12:43Speaker 2: that they go to school, they go to class, they
- 12:46Speaker 2: exercise together like they train themselves to work. They find
- 12:52Speaker 2: pride in what they're doing. And from the reports I've seen,
- 12:58Speaker 2: the overwhelming mature or of those who join this program.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Go through this program, they get the days knocked off
- 13:06Speaker 2: their sentences, they go home. These guys don't come back
- 13:11Speaker 2: to prison. It is extremely rare for one of them
- 13:14Speaker 2: to violate their parole of probation and come back to prison.
- 13:21Speaker 2: And yet nobody wants to make this nationwide. You have
- 13:28Speaker 2: all kinds of labor in here that you could pay
- 13:33Speaker 2: cheaply and get really great work out of them. But
- 13:39Speaker 2: you instill in them a work effort. You train them
- 13:43Speaker 2: to work instead of sitting around on their ass watching TV,
- 13:47Speaker 2: playing games all day. And when you do something like that,
- 13:54Speaker 2: when you risk your life for others, it makes you
- 13:58Speaker 2: think about other people. You lose that selfishness that you
- 14:03Speaker 2: came to prison with. And yes, if you get locked
- 14:06Speaker 2: up with the exception of actually being an innocent person
- 14:12Speaker 2: breaking the law, committing crimes is an inherently selfish, narcissistic act.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Trust me, I know firsthand experience. After all, I've been
- 14:25Speaker 2: doing issue for thirty three years juvenile an adult. And
- 14:39Speaker 2: that's my question, just not necessarily to you specifically, but
- 14:46Speaker 2: just my question in general, to the universe, to God, government, whoever.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Why do we only do the right thing on a
- 14:56Speaker 2: small scale, but we always do the wrong thing on
- 15:01Speaker 2: large scale. I'm in prison, and I've been in prison
- 15:09Speaker 2: for a long long time, and I've talked to tens
- 15:17Speaker 2: of thousands of prisoners from all walks of life, and
- 15:24Speaker 2: for the most part, the overwhelming majority of us would
- 15:30Speaker 2: love to have a real job, even if we didn't
- 15:34Speaker 2: get paid the minimum wage or so on and so forth.
- 15:37Speaker 2: Like an episode I said in the past, just pay
- 15:39Speaker 2: us six dollars a day. Two dollars goes back to
- 15:42Speaker 2: the state to help pay for our upkeep feeding us,
- 15:45Speaker 2: medical transportation, and so on and so forth. Two dollars
- 15:49Speaker 2: goes to a victim's fund, you know, to just pay
- 15:54Speaker 2: it back a little bit. And the other two dollars.
- 15:58Speaker 2: One goes into our when we do get out of prison,
- 16:01Speaker 2: so we go home with money on our books, and
- 16:06Speaker 2: then the other dollar we get to spend, you know,
- 16:09Speaker 2: for Commissary high tien, whatever the case may be. That's why,
- 16:22Speaker 2: to all of you inmate firefighters, to all of you
- 16:26Speaker 2: prisoners who maybe hear this episode for whatever reason, keep
- 16:33Speaker 2: up the good work, keep doing what you're doing, because
- 16:37Speaker 2: you and I both know why you're doing it. And
- 16:39Speaker 2: it's not twenty seven dollars a fucking day. You know,
- 16:45Speaker 2: You've got people out there saying, oh, well, they're getting
- 16:47Speaker 2: paid way too much. They're getting paid way too much.
- 16:52Speaker 2: Yet the people saying that are probably making twenty thirty
- 16:55Speaker 2: forty dollars an hour. But yet because we're a prisoner,
- 17:01Speaker 2: we're not allowed to get paid what we're worth. I'm
- 17:12Speaker 2: really getting sick of America. I love this country, I
- 17:17Speaker 2: believe in this country. But there needs to be an
- 17:20Speaker 2: attitude change. People need to stop thinking about themselves. People
- 17:28Speaker 2: need to stop dividing themselves along party issues. We're not
- 17:39Speaker 2: Republican Americans, we're not Democratic Americans. We'reing Americans, plain and simple.
- 17:47Speaker 2: But if you see somebody willing to risk their life
- 17:50Speaker 2: regardless of whether they've helping broke the law man, throw
- 17:53Speaker 2: a little support their way, just throw out a tweet. Aymn,
- 18:00Speaker 2: we appreciate what y'all doing, whether you ever know it
- 18:03Speaker 2: or not. Thank you for fighting against these fires for us.
- 18:07Speaker 2: Thank you for saving people's homes. If not that complicated,
- 18:13Speaker 2: when did we stop supporting one another? When did we
- 18:16Speaker 2: stop helping one another? And that's my issue, Like it's
- 18:35Speaker 2: we're losing ourselves. We're losing who we were, who we
- 18:41Speaker 2: should be standing for. Remember nine to eleven. Remember when
- 18:47Speaker 2: that happened, when the whole country came together. We came
- 18:52Speaker 2: together so long as the media was talking about nine
- 18:56Speaker 2: to eleven, and then as soon as the new story
- 18:58Speaker 2: came up and they went to that, and all of
- 19:00Speaker 2: a sudden, people went back and just like, you know what, y'all,
- 19:03Speaker 2: If you don't believe in what I believe in you,
- 19:12Speaker 2: I am ashamed of my fellow man. Here, I am
- 19:17Speaker 2: in prison. Yeah I've done, you have one minute remaining. Yeah,
- 19:24Speaker 2: I've up. I've done some really bad things, but I'm
- 19:29Speaker 2: trying to put some good out there in the world.
- 19:34Speaker 2: These other inimates that are fighting as far as are
- 19:36Speaker 2: trying to put some good out there in the world,
- 19:39Speaker 2: and all people can talk about is they make twenty
- 19:41Speaker 2: seven dollars a day. It's a damn shame. Wake up, people,
- 19:52Speaker 2: start supporting one another. If you start supporting one another,
- 19:56Speaker 2: you'll reap what you saw and people will start supporting
- 19:59Speaker 2: and helping you. That's the only way to truly make
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