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Was the Knicks season a success? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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guy. I remember him being a real good
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dude. So you got the stamp of approval
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from the friend network here on my phone?
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Believe it, I I there's If those walls could talk at the poor
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house, my man. Whoa, boy.
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Yeah, I mean, that's a legendary spot that's pre Coke.
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In New York, it's a little different, no doubt.
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There were a lot of people that pretended they were Jabba
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Chamberlain as we've we've had frauds over the years.
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Bro that's so funny, dude just messaged me literally 3 days ago
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and that dude is still acting like he's me.
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Swear he sent a picture of it and everything.
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That's pretty funny. He was like, you probably won't
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see this. And I was just just going
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through answering DMS and whatever and no BS.
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He was like, dude, I was out. He lives in Virginia now.
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Wow, look. At.
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You and he was out and he was like, yeah, this dude said he
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was you and he's like, no, you're not.
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And then I guess they became like friends or whatever and he
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ruined my life. Wow, it figured I was like damn,
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all right, wow, I know. I was like so random you brought
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that up 'cause that literally just happened.
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That's crazy. It just shows everybody New York
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City and legends and baseball. Back in the 80's, the Mets had
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it going. That beat reporter Bob Clapper,
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she used to tell people who's Bobby Ojeda?
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And they're like, free drink. Yeah.
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Bobby Ojeda well, we love Bobby anyways.
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I, I, we, we got to get it to the New York Knicks and the
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Knicks saw the story right now and a lot of people were
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questioning the New York Knicks on why they didn't hire a coach
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before the draft and the Knicks went right into the draft.
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But obviously the Knicks really didn't do anything in the draft.
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They did add somebody, add somebody at 50th, if I'm not
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mistaken. The what, what was he?
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African, African, French, French player.
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We'll see how he is. It's he's probably going to
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start in the G League. He's not going to start in the
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NBA, but they say he could be a good rebound.
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He could be defender. Why do you think Leon Rose
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waited so long to hire Mike Brown?
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You know, I'm still trying to figure out why they said goodbye
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to Tibbs in the 1st place. I'm trying to, you know, settle
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into that. But you know, I think you got to
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do your due diligence. You got to take meetings and
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this is the team that is looking for grown-ups and players that
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can contribute. Now.
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The draft is not a super high priority focus.
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Let's be honest, it hasn't been for this Origin organization.
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Historically. RJ Barrett was the first first
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round draft pick. They resigned in 30 plus years
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since Charlie War. They don't, they don't pay much
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attention to the draft. Clearly they signed Jordan
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Clarkson. He's 33,000 cell, he's 29.
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So it's like the draft is what it is.
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They got 3 French guys now. You mentioned that MO, I think
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his name is Mohamed Ziara. Yes, he's, he's got 3 French
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guys now. It's interesting considering
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we've seen this sort of French invasion in the NBA with Wimpy
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Yama and Alex R and then winning the silver medal.
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So I'm with him and Mike Brown's a proven guy in the NBA.
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He's coached in the finals. Jordan Clarkson's played in the
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finals. Mike Brown's won fifty playoff
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games. You know, Tibbs, I love a coach
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and Tibbs and and obviously you can nitpick them and the certain
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things that probably rug rub people in the organization the
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wrong way or just ran its course 24 and 23 in the playoffs.
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But I don't know. Here we are man.
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And we're talking Knicks basketball and all in like July
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and it's positive. There is one matrix.
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First of all, Mr. Mr. Lyons, the Knicks have been positive since
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really Leon Rose has gone to the organization.
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They've been a slam dunk. I mean, they made it.
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They made the move for Jaylen Bronson.
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They brought him to the organization.
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I mean, obviously they had to bring his father with him, but
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that that's a whole nother story.
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I mean, they brought in Tom Thibodeau.
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They they added additional guys like Josh Hart.
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They brought in Dante Diva Gentle now Mikhail Bridges.
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They traded away their future for Mikhail Bridges.
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We'll see how that works. Karl Anthony Towns, I mean,
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everything that Leon Rose has touched so far has been
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successful. So him anybody that's taking
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shots at the Mike Brown, Mike Brownhire, I don't think you
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could take shots at it. The guy is a winning coach.
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There's only two other coaches that have better record, a
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better record than he has over the last 10 years as a head
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coach. So there's there's no question
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the guy knows how to win. The question is, is he going to
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win a championship? He's been to a finals.
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He's failed to win a championship with a good team.
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So that is the question with Mike Brown.
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Can he do it in New York? Can he do it under pressure?
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Can he do it with these rowdy fans that obviously when you
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start to lose, they start stabbing you in the back with a
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knife, a gun or whatever the hell they have and maybe a pole
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or, you know, something else I don't want to say?
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I mean, it is a magical few weeks.
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I don't know where you guys live or where you're you're based or
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how much of A you know, the spring you got to chase to be in
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the city, to be in New York, but the vibes were amazing.
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Like it was the best six weeks of my life.
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I feel like, and I don't want to experience it again because I
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was just an emotional mess. And now we're at this place
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where expectation and entitlement are starting to seep
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in and it's already starting to feel like that's the I'm like,
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I'm around your guys's age, like I've been through this, right.
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So it's amazing. You've got this Lord of the
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Flies generation that goes out on the 7th Ave.
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There he is, There's Captain Bush.
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God bless that Great American man.
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I love telling, asking my Pistons friends.
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I like saying what's the 4th best performance in the history
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of Little Caesars Arena? Because the best is game.
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The second best is game three, and I'll give you the third best
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is game four. And they'll give me a variety of
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answers all the night. Kate had 32 against the Magic in
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January or the night Giannis gave us 50 in March.
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But Brunson's really special man.
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So the time is now. It's a really special time in
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the city. So I want to enjoy it.
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I want to be present for it. I don't want to nitpick it and
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be like, why aren't they playing Kyler Kohler?
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If we go through the roster from last year, there's a lot of
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this. My dad would say Schmen Drakes
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like God bless PJ Tucker turning 40 and wearing Charles Oakley
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Player Edition shoes. They don't just take shots at
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Charles Oakley. That's my favorite, I think.
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PJ Tucker, The. Little subtle jam.
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All right. I love you.
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Yeah, I I was about to play edition.
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Listen well, come on, Delon Wright.
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Delon Wright pressures at you campaign.
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These are borderline guys in the league.
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And so the conversation of Tibbs didn't play the bench, like I
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didn't need more campaign pull ups.
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Like that's not the recipe. They just didn't have the talent
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last year. Now you add Clarkson, a six man
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of the year in a bucket. I'm with it, man I'm ready.
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I'm six. I'm very excited.
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So you seem pretty passionate about wanting to keep Thibodeau,
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like, one of the biggest, like, disclaimers that people have had
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against him that you're like, this is not as big of a problem
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as it was originally out to be. I think people really don't
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understand just how hard it is to win every single night in the
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NBA. And some of his detractors will
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say, how come on a Tuesday versus Charlotte in March, he's
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not playing with the lineup and trying different combinations
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and they go down 12 early. Don't call a timeout.
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Let him play through it. Like using the games to kind of
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like, tinker and stuff. Because in the playoffs come
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around, you're like, oh, my God, what do we do?
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Because Brunson and Cat can't defend together.
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But that's like, I don't know, that's rarefied air.
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That's Zen Master stuff like what he would do back with the
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Lakers and stuff like, I don't know, I think it's just hard to
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win 50 games. And you got to think about the
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fact that Mitchell Robinson was hurt for most of the year.
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So Cats playing out of position, Hart's really a bench guy who
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brings energy. They maxed him out.
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They maxed out Deuce McBride. They've maxed out like every guy
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on this team. So I don't know what tips get.
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I think we're at detractors. I agree with them is like
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they're up 24 with two minutes to go wise bridges on the floor.
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Like I like that kind of stuff. I was driving people nuts.
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I know. But you know, it's
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collaboration. It's a collaborative kind of
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generation of basketball minds and and and people want to feel
10:44
a part of it. And he might have gotten a
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little too isolating and kind of me and my guys against the world
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and like not really bringing in the, the entire scope of the
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organization, but I don't know. We'll see.
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It's, it's a great run for him in that it's a dream job.
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And he he did something that I never thought I'd see in my
11:00
lifetime. Like they're, they're really
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good. Like, they're really fun to
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watch and they're good. Ben, did you think too like
11:07
we've we've talked about this and, and kind of across all
11:11
sports, obviously we we see that you are passionate about tips.
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Do you think they're sometimes like there needs to be a change
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or do they just end up using the coach as the fall guy because
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they have to blame something? No, a little bit of both Java, I
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mean, I think you look at big business and that's what's
11:28
professional sports are now. CE OS change, CE OS change, top
11:33
executives are always changing jobs.
11:35
People work at CAA, then they work at William Morris and they
11:37
work at right. You kind of jump around.
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So but yes, there needs to be a scapegoat, but there was no
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problem. There was nothing to blame.
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Like what can we at least enjoyed it for like 2 weeks
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after that historic run that like took me back to my
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childhood, My English teachers texting me, I'm calling my dad
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in the middle of the day crying because I'm just like so elated.
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And we only get 48 hours to like sit in it and enjoy it.
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Like that was the kind of tough part about.
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It it's always Indiana, it's always Indiana that screws us.
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It was Indiana. That's a real I mean, you're
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solid, man. It's A and it's kind of cool how
12:12
the two cities, let's be honest, like kind of take a different
12:15
approach where the Knicks have big stars always and you know,
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Indiana's like this team kind of collaborative thing.
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It kind of fits the region. I don't know, I like the kind of
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small town market thing versus the the big evil city kids or
12:28
whatever. That's Pat McAfee curses out
12:31
Shallowmet, but let's see Shay. Let's see shallowmet, by the
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way, on a Tuesday in November against Charlotte at the Garden.
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Like can we get? Some of that I don't want to
12:40
hear. I don't want to hear Pat McAfee
12:42
talk about basketball. Please stay with the football.
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I don't want to hear much. I don't.
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Want to like Lee? Like, come on, you know?
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Listen, I I got a personality. You have to listen to the show.
12:51
There's a lot of craziness. Job I got a question for you,
12:54
man. When you, when the Yankees had
12:55
it humming in the city, like how did you as a player feel the
12:58
energy in the city shift? Was it like talking to the guys
13:02
in, you know, the street construction guys, guys in the
13:05
bar? Like, how do you the poor house
13:07
crew, Like, how do you feel that the city's on fire as a player?
13:11
It's there's like a for people that don't like get it or like
13:16
everybody's like, ah, New York's too much this, that another
13:19
thing. It's different when you actually
13:20
live there. Visiting is, is completely
13:22
different. And so I think you just have a,
13:24
you have a feel for the heartbeat, right?
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And what happens is you, you feel the buzz, like there's just
13:31
something in the air that it just it, it doesn't, it makes me
13:36
smile thinking about it. Along with it comes a lot of
13:39
free stuff, which is even an added bonus.
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Figures. But it I think it's just it's
13:47
the buzz and the energy that is combated with with winning and
13:54
and doing that. But just, yeah, you're walking
13:56
down, you're getting honked at. Everybody's saying good luck, go
13:59
get them. I think just the energy and the
14:02
heartbeat of this city as it goes and when you feel it, it's
14:07
truly is special. And you know, but as we all
14:10
know, as much as they love you, they hate you just the same.
14:12
You got to take the good with the bad.
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No, Oscar. Hey, I was just in Madrid and I
14:15
saw Evan Fournier playing for Olympiacos, so I gave him the
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business. Still you.
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Know now he's going. Now he's moving to the soccer
14:23
tone over here. European football, as the
14:27
English would say. But, and I've attacked us on
14:30
social media saying don't call it soccer, it's the European
14:34
football, you Americans. But if we accumulate all these
14:37
French players more often, Evan Fournier will get a one day
14:39
contract. You dumb Americans.
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Are we going to see them all out at the MetLife on Wednesday when
14:45
Mbappe and PSG and and Real Madrid come to town?
14:48
I thought we should see the Knicks out there.
14:50
We saw Deuce McBride lighting fireworks on July 4th.
14:52
How wonderful the. MBA on it so he so he blows his
14:56
hands up like JPP did and then we have a guy that's playing
15:00
with three fingers wonderful great job deuce so I I have no
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stay away from the. Fireworks enjoy the sweater
15:07
vest. July 4th and wasn't sweating
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I'm. Going to see Deuce McBride
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blinding up fireworks and blowing his hands OK I it's very
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New York NY like as we've known over the past years of stupidity
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of some of former players that I'm not going to mention on this
15:24
show that have been on this show before.
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So let's get into it. We have a lot more Nick
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conversation. We are talking to Nick's NBATV
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contributor Ben Lyons hit. This is the first time he's been
15:35
on the show and we're very happy to have him.
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He's a great personality, does a lot right now with NBATV.
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You know, Nick, Ben, I, there's a lot of a lot of things with
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this Tom Thibodeau thing. You brought it up and there's a
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there's a lot of questions to the Knicks on how they handled
15:48
this at the end of the season. But the one thing that was
15:52
interesting when the season was over, there were stories coming
15:55
out that the only two players that stuck up for Tom Thibodeau
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and wanted him still there is Josh Hart and Jaylen Brunson.
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Is there any truth to that? And who was the guy that really
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stemmed this to get him fired? Come on man, how do I know that
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I mean? There's more leaks in the side
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guy. You're inside guy.
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I'd like to get an inside answer.
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Who knows, You know, Brunson obviously has a history in a
16:19
relationship and his dad and yes, of course it's part of the
16:23
90s Knicks and all that. And, you know, Heart and and
16:26
Brunson are forever connected as the roommates.
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But I mean, Mikhail Bridges was outspoken during the season
16:33
about being frustrated with some of the playing minutes.
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And he had kind of, you know, said some stuff during a road
16:38
trip that kind of alluded to some frustrations.
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But when the results are there, 24 playoff wins for the team in
16:45
four years, you know, can you judge Thibodeau on what the team
16:52
has done historically? Like what happened with Samuel
16:55
Dalambear and Michael Doliak and Clarence Witherspoon somehow
16:58
matters like an O4O5O6, like the fact that they stunk back then
17:03
but are good now. Does that give him a pass to
17:06
stick around longer? How big was Doliak's head
17:09
though? That dude had a cranium.
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Him and Chris Dudley, probably the biggest domes in in Nick in
17:14
Nick's history. Yeah, man.
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Like, I feel like I feel like those teams were so bad that
17:20
people couldn't even savor the fact that this team is finally
17:23
good. And he deserves some, like,
17:26
somewhat of a leash for for, you know, the way they were able to
17:30
overachieve in the playoffs and the fact they beat the defending
17:33
champions and took the Pacers to six.
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I mean, Eastern Conference finals is kind of crazy.
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Ben, first of all, let's get honest here.
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Let's be honest. Let's get honest on this whole
17:45
argument of Tom Thibodeau. I was a guy and I don't know, I
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wrote a story a year before they hired Tom Thibodeau.
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And Speedy will tell you I was the guy that said the Knicks
17:56
should hire Tom Thibodeau. As soon as they brought Leon
17:58
Rose in, I knew they were hiring Tom Thibodeau.
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But I also believe they kept Tom Thibodeau 2 years long than they
18:04
should have. All right, I just don't think
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Tom Thibodeau is a winning coach.
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He's never won. He's never played it as a coach
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in the finals. That Chicago Bulls team fell
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short with the Heat. They can never get over the
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hump. He's a great coach.
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He's a great regular season coach, but he wears out his
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players. He plays them too long and
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they're not the same players. Josh Hart.
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I don't care what Josh Hart says and I love you Josh.
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If you listen to the show, we love you.
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The the problem with Josh Hart is he doesn't want to tell the
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truth about the real story behind the season.
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And the real story is he was worn out too much.
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This guy is a great two way player.
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He's a great for the size. Maybe because they have no bench
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and he should be coming off the bench.
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And he's. Playing.
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I mean, why don't you push your bench, right?
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Well, come on. Tyler Kollek, you should have
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played him. I know you don't want to say
18:53
that, but they should have played him.
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I don't understand. You got to see what you have.
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There Tyler Kollek. Why is he on the bench then?
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Why is he on the roster? If you have these guys on the
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roster, you got to use them. That's that's what I'm saying.
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Ben, he doesn't use these guys. He doesn't, he doesn't use young
19:10
players. There have been attacks with him
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when he was with the Timberwolves that he doesn't
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like to start younger players. He likes to keep those younger
19:16
players on the bench to learn. And then by the time.
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He's a head coach in the NBA who likes playing star players.
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That's. Fine and it doesn't work like
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that. It wins in.
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The NBA? Well, guess what?
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Guess what? Over the years, how many of
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those coaches actually win when they just play their star
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players? What do you mean?
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Look at all the current coaches in the league who have won NBA
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titles and it's been on the back.
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Spring won. Steve Kerr, does he not play
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younger players? He played.
19:42
Wiggins, he's a young player. He played.
19:44
When Steph Curry was out, they missed the playoffs.
19:46
When Klay Thompson's out, they missed the.
19:48
Playoffs, of course he's their star, but but there's.
19:52
Wiggins a number. One draft pick.
19:54
There are great coaches over the years, and I know you're not
19:58
going to think that Nurse was a good coach, but he played in
20:00
Toronto, he played young guys. You got to play younger, you got
20:03
to play. They kept.
20:04
Knocking on the door and it took the addition of Kawhi, Leonard
20:07
and Marcus, but you need. Stars to win, we know that.
20:10
But you need a you need a young roster to play.
20:13
You can't just start these old guys and wear them out all
20:16
season when they're playing 4546 minutes.
20:19
Old on this. Team.
20:20
I'm just saying NBA in right now.
20:23
If you look at the NBA, Carl Anthony Towns is what, 30 years
20:26
old? Is he 30?
20:28
Might turn 30 in September. He is 30.
20:31
He's 30. Considerably 30 years old is
20:34
kind of old in the NBA now. It is.
20:37
It's. That's no, that's grown up NBA
20:40
this. Go time this when stop.
20:42
You know it. Come on.
20:44
Come on. Benny.
20:46
Benny. Does anybody call you Benny?
20:48
Does your mom call you Benny? No, I've got Benji and Benny.
20:52
I'm in trouble with his Benji right here with.
20:54
You I'm. That's it with you, Ben.
20:56
Well. Carl, like he tells me, let's
20:58
give the big fellas some credit, right?
21:00
He scored 20 points in the fourth quarter.
21:02
When the season's on the line, they needed him most.
21:03
He hit threes from, you know, Japan it.
21:06
Felt, yeah, he chucks up 80 foot jumpers.
21:08
That's great, Great. Fan He got one in Detroit and
21:11
then like gave him a ball pass the rest of the playoffs to do
21:14
that. But he's all he's all NBA played
21:17
65 plus right. I mean he's available.
21:20
He played every bite in the playoffs and so availability is
21:23
the best ability. They're the best training staff
21:25
in the league this year. They they are all we're all
21:28
available in when the playoffs counted and Mitchell Robinson,
21:31
who missed 665 Plus Cat gets a lot of a lot of heat for the
21:36
zesty stuff. But put that aside man, and the
21:39
guy is one of the most skilled offensive players of our
21:41
generation for. A bitches and moans.
21:43
I don't want to see a guy go out there and cry to the referees.
21:47
He failed me. Well, that's everybody nowadays,
21:50
though. Come on, that's that's what
21:51
this. AAU generation is like, I want
21:53
to see Carl Anthony of Towns go out there and actually play some
21:56
kind of like a defense, maybe just show up and actually stand
22:00
there and play somewhat of a defensive game.
22:03
Hey, hit the glass. He had like 14 rebounds a night.
22:05
I mean a guy bored. Yeah, but what happened in the
22:07
playoffs when he, when he played against Detroit and with
22:10
Detroit, was punching a middle? Trouble.
22:11
You're right, Detroit was punching a ball.
22:14
They were doing that. Foul trouble was the storyline,
22:16
and for Brunson too. I didn't expect Brunson to keep
22:19
getting in foul trouble these playoff series.
22:21
But but no, the Pistons are bigger, stronger, faster team.
22:25
And the fact they were able to beat them and the way they beat
22:27
them and then to come back the way they did against the
22:29
Celtics, those games, it's all about the journey.
22:32
Guys like Java, you know this like it's those, those big wins
22:36
that you remember and you remember your family celebrating
22:38
and you remember that. It's like if you win the World
22:40
Series, you win the NBA title. Yes, obviously that is the goal,
22:44
but it's not a failure. It's Nick.
22:46
There are a lot of Knick fans who feel like this is a failure.
22:49
What? Happened.
22:49
It was a failure of a season. You should have made it to the
22:53
Finals. I don't care what you say,
22:55
Benny. I am getting mad now.
22:57
Ben, I love you. You're on this show, Tyler.
23:01
I am angry. Yes, I am tired.
23:04
I'm tired of watching this garbage of a basketball team.
23:07
I've watched it since the 90s when the the Knicks, those mean
23:10
St. Knicks with Oakley and Mason and
23:13
Xavier McDaniel, Yes, even the Chicago Bulls brother in high
23:19
school, Kiki Vanderwey. Remember those teams.
23:23
I'm tired. I'm tired of watching this
23:25
garbage. You had a chance.
23:27
You played a better you're a better team than Indiana and you
23:30
laid up lousy goose eggs against a team that you have more talent
23:35
than it's. But it's to me that was the
23:38
reason why he got fired. He didn't show up.
23:40
The Knicks did not show up for. The final They went to the
23:42
Eastern Conference final for the first time since you started
23:44
shaving. Yeah, it's shaving.
23:47
Please. I mean, it was 99 and I was, I
23:51
was graduating from high school, so I was shaving baby, in many
23:54
different areas. I'm not going to tell you, but
23:56
please don't. Speedy hasn't shaved since he
23:59
was born, so. I'm glad I should have.
24:02
You got come on me. I had some like like the summer
24:05
scruffed on, but Jabba's got this here.
24:08
That's like, that was a full protest vote of Brian Cashman
24:11
says he left. He's got chickens.
24:12
Living in his beard right now. No, this is this is Trim.
24:16
No, when I went to Detroit, yeah, I didn't.
24:20
I didn't give a damn. I just let it go.
24:23
Detroit's awesome, man. For people who don't know, like
24:25
I went to the University of Michigan.
24:26
I do a lot. Yeah, I was.
24:27
I was going to have to live a little talk on that on on your
24:29
screen. I saw a Michigan hat of it you
24:31
might have. To I know, I know you're from
24:33
it's been it's been 2047 days, by the way, since that school in
24:38
Ohio beat Michigan in a football game, but just right.
24:43
I I love Detroit, man. You played there for a hot
24:46
second. Like it's a cool town that's on
24:47
the on the rise. And I don't know.
24:49
What was your experience like there?
24:50
Like, Oh, I I. My first year I lived in
24:54
Bloomfield Township right off Telegraph and then second year I
24:59
lived in Birmingham which which was cool.
25:03
They were cool areas. Very lived right down the street
25:05
from me. The dude, the dudes house that I
25:09
got was literally like his family.
25:11
Remember back in the day from the airports, The Sharper Image?
25:15
Of course, yeah. That family.
25:17
Stuff you like, almost wanted to buy.
25:19
Yeah, that so they, they're from there.
25:22
And it was, it was the son's house.
25:24
He was actually moving to New York to start some like
25:27
headphone company or whatever. You have like 100 recliners and
25:30
stuff dude. If the basement was like a
25:32
lounge, it literally it had five TV's on the wall, a big
25:35
sectional, a ping pong table. It had lounge seating, it had
25:39
like a dance floor like material.
25:41
Bathroom box. Oh, it was fantastic.
25:45
Yeah, it was. It was great.
25:46
And sneaky good food. Sneaky good food, yeah.
25:49
Yeah, and there's a cool little spot across from like where the
25:52
original Tiger Stadium was that every year celebrates Babe
25:55
Ruth's birthday. That's a good thing.
25:57
Ton of history there. Detroit's a great sports town.
26:00
Yeah, it's cool you got a chance to play there.
26:03
Transitioning back to the Knicks.
26:04
I just wanted to ask if there's any moves either trades wise,
26:06
Obviously free agency, there's not much left, but maybe a
26:08
trades wise that you would consider doing if you were the
26:11
Knicks, either to improve the bench or another potential
26:14
dangled starter for that possibly.
26:16
I'm going to get, I'm going to get Arrow fired up.
26:18
He got traded today and said he was a math equation.
26:20
I put it out there on Soho show because I know he followed.
26:23
He definitely saw it. Can we get Kevin Love to New
26:25
York? I would love to see that.
26:27
I don't want Kevin Love. I don't want old man love
26:30
jumping around over here in New York.
26:32
Stay wherever you are, Kevin. And.
26:34
Then and then we got Seth Curry. It would be so nixed to get the
26:37
other Curry. We got the other ants to Kumpo.
26:40
We hired Chris Smith once J Rs brother.
26:42
We had the wrong Hardaway. We had, you know, let's get, I
26:46
don't know. It's your Michigan boy, Tim
26:48
Hardaway, Tim. Twice a Nick, always a Nick.
26:51
Tim Hardaway Junior Tim. Hardaway senior's been on a
26:56
show. Quite a few times.
26:57
He loves Kyle. Kyle Lowry just signed with
26:59
Philly, so he's off the books. I didn't realize he was that
27:02
old. Yeah, yeah.
27:04
He's I was like starting to shoot his.
27:05
Age on the front, you know. What I mean?
27:08
But what do we got for point guards Arrow.
27:10
Like who? We need another point guard I.
27:12
Think, really, who, who, who do the Knicks have to bring in to
27:15
make me want to throw? Damn, I've heard.
27:19
Development now, so there you. Go.
27:20
I would love to see that, but there are stories coming out
27:23
that Miami is in the Dame sweepstakes.
27:26
Also a team that some people believe could be in the
27:28
sweepstakes is the Knicks. He actually, he trains out here
27:32
in New York during the offseason.
27:34
He also, he goes to a lot of production studios out here in
27:39
New York, a lot in the offseason.
27:41
Why not Dame come over here and rap for the New York Knicks?
27:44
For a couple of years, it's kind of weird with guys like Dame,
27:47
guys like Russell Westbrook. We're talking about a LeBron
27:50
buyout. Obviously money is money, and I
27:52
think there's something about when you are performing at the
27:55
highest level, you deserve to get every cent.
27:58
But if Dame wanted to crack the code, come here on the veteran
28:01
minimum and you still get the 100 M's from the Bucks.
28:04
Like it's right there for you, dude.
28:06
But then I it's it's to me, I don't think the the Knicks need
28:10
the guard play. I think they got to continue
28:12
doing what they're doing and add to the bench, add to the wing
28:15
play. I think the more wings you have,
28:17
the more wings you add and the defense you need off the bench.
28:21
I think that's where the Knicks need to go.
28:22
Because you saw in the playoffs, especially against Indiana, when
28:25
they when they had to go to their bench, the defense was
28:28
just so lackluster. They just couldn't defend when
28:31
they were bringing that second team out and of.
28:33
Course that's the 6. He's Bill like you.
28:37
He's like 68260. I'm not 6-8.
28:40
Job was like 6 three. I'm like 5-10.
28:42
I'm just, I'm broad. I'm a big.
28:44
Guy, but I'm I'm slowly billed, you know?
28:46
What I mean, I'm one of those guys.
28:47
Listen, Ben, I'm one of those guys that if you ask me to play
28:50
defense, I'll play defense. I'll get right between the
28:53
thighs. If Job was going to come at me,
28:55
I'm I'm. Playing in my we're so the dude
28:58
in the gym and pick up now I'm like man, I'm just going to
29:01
knock knees with this dude and ruin my summer, huh?
29:04
OK, I'm one of those guys that you, if you turn your for one
29:07
second, I'm giving you an elbow, I'm giving you a nice little
29:10
knee right into the grind I'm making.
29:12
Sure, playing every game like it's my last because it might be
29:15
because the guys like you. I wish you I wish you said he
29:17
was 6 foot 8. There's been guests that have
29:19
called him like 5 foot 6 and he he goes look at the problem.
29:22
Silly frame. Dude, Ben, I go out and and
29:24
people like they watch me on the show and then we go out to an
29:27
event and they're like, oh, you look like you're 56I stand
29:29
there. I'm like I'm 510 1/2.
29:31
I am not small. And they look at me, he's like,
29:33
wow, you're a lot bigger than you do on a camera.
29:35
I was like, dude, you know you're short when you have to
29:37
add the half. Yeah, but I am 510 1/2.
29:39
I'm not. Screw you, Jabba, screw you.
29:42
I mean, I'm 220 lbs I I'm, I'm a thick.
29:46
I'm thinking the right places, right, Speedy?
29:48
I don't know if you know. No, I got a woman.
29:50
I got a woman. She'll tell you.
29:53
All I know is, yeah, I think it was, yeah, it was Leroy Butler.
29:56
What we had about the show that was like 3 times during the
29:58
interview called Errol, He was 5 foot 6.
30:00
And that said, Errol was like much younger than or much older
30:03
than he actually. Is crazy and everybody when I go
30:07
out, everybody thinks that I'm like 2829 this mother.
30:10
I love you. First of all, Leroy, we love you
30:12
and we love them. But Leroy actually told me I
30:15
look older than I am. I'm like Leroy, what do you say
30:17
I'm 50 years old. Screw you, Leroy.
30:20
But Leroy Brown. Remember that movie Speedy?
30:22
Remember that? What movie?
30:23
I know the new. Jack City Baby.
30:25
One of the greatest movies of all time, by the way.
30:27
I love it by the way. And he also said, here's also
30:30
because Arrow's a Jets fan, too. He's also taking shots at The
30:33
Jets like the last time they made the playoffs with Leroy
30:35
was. Everybody, everybody takes shots
30:37
at the New York Jets, OK, The Jets are a laughing stock in New
30:40
York, as they always have been. And and and.
30:42
The Knicks are ripe, tailing behind them with the New York
30:44
Mets and the Islanders, obviously, but the island just.
30:48
Won four times. It's tough, man.
30:49
It's you guys. I mean, you guys are die hard
30:51
Yankees. I'm listening to the show and
30:52
they're arguing over who's the GM in the 90s.
30:55
He's a Mets fan. You know that man?
30:56
He's a Mets fan, Yeah, but all right, the Mets we know are the
30:59
Mets, and they're a mess and Sodo stinks and all that, and
31:02
they're just terrible. So.
31:03
But then you got the Yankees, who haven't won since 09, and
31:08
you got. Yeah.
31:09
And then The Jets of The Jets, the Giants of the Giants.
31:12
The Giants, it's really the Liberty.
31:15
Sound Man and the Liberty are struggling now this summer.
31:17
They got waxed yesterday. Are you really going to go to
31:20
the Liberty? Are you serious?
31:22
I mean, I love what Caitlin. Talking to the wrong guy.
31:24
I'm a die hard, you know my. Question My question for you and
31:28
that's going to the Liberty Caitlin Clark.
31:32
I, I, we speak high praise of who she is and what she's done
31:35
for the WNBA. The money that she's bringing
31:37
in, the endorsements, the the sponsorships and the shoe deals
31:42
that she's bringing in and the for the future for like, like
31:44
girls like Angel Reese and some of the young girls that are
31:47
coming up through the college ranks.
31:49
Why is it that every single one of these women playing in the
31:54
WNBA have so much hate for this girl who's done nothing but good
31:58
things for the WNBA? I want to know your opinion.
32:00
Let's see. Blank and same with every single
32:03
one. I think a lot of them, a lot of.
32:05
Them I think I think when you you have to really understand
32:08
how marginalized and how challenging the journey has been
32:11
for a lot of women playing hoops and when they feel like someones
32:15
been anointed it they want to see it and they're competitors.
32:18
So you're like, man, when I guard her, it's going to be
32:21
different. When I square up against her,
32:23
I'll show her what's up. That's the competitor in these
32:26
women, right? And she comes on the court and
32:28
busts her ass and shoots it from Ohio from 30 feet like that.
32:32
And that, like she's a star. Because when you watch Hoop like
32:35
we all do, whether it's the men's game, the women's game,
32:37
she does stuff that no Hooper does.
32:40
She does stuff that makes you go OK, like this woman's just
32:43
different. So there's some jealousy, maybe
32:46
there's some resentment. I think there was some confusion
32:49
at first is, wait, why is she getting all this praise?
32:51
They didn't win it all in the champion.
32:53
Stewie said if you don't win it all in college, like, does it,
32:57
you know, Diana was saying, oh, I'll take Paige over her.
32:59
So they want to see it now. They've seen it.
33:02
And it's, I think that's kind of dying down a little bit.
33:04
I mean, she's tough. They're they're they they
33:07
embrace the villain role the the Tres Lechas like, I love the
33:11
whole thing in Indiana. It should be a little better.
33:13
She's been injured. She missed her fifth game
33:15
tonight. I think I saw Speedy said on the
33:18
up there, Fish said on the update.
33:20
But it's growing pains, man. That league is crazy that this
33:23
like the stuff that they have to go through and have endured over
33:26
the last, you know, I don't know, 27 years.
33:29
I mean, Jabba, if you had to go to Russia or Bulgaria for six
33:34
months out of the year to pitch and have no offseason to make a
33:37
living and make more money over there than here, like you have
33:41
resentment to help the leagues run and stuff.
33:43
So it's just kind of a mess. But at the same time, it's
33:45
growing and it's dope hoop and if you go to the Barclays and
33:49
just like go on a Tuesday night in July, it's a vibe, right I'm.
33:53
All but because she's doing what she's doing for the WNBA, these
33:57
girls are not going to have to go to Belarus or Spain or
34:00
Portugal to play basketball after the WNBA.
34:03
So I don't know why. What?
34:04
What's the bitch in the moaning? And Diana Taurasi, please.
34:07
Old man, old woman Taurasi going out there and speaking like
34:12
she's something. Special, I say.
34:13
You can't thing I say. I get it.
34:16
My Yukon. I'll tell you what I think of
34:18
Yukon and Yukon basketball. I'm not going to say it on this
34:21
radio show because we got a lot of Yukonites listening to the
34:24
show and they're probably going to hate me after.
34:26
Well, what else is new? Everybody hates me.
34:28
Kiss my ass. Jabba hates.
34:30
Me. It's a great name for your
34:31
autobiography. Arrow everybody hates.
34:33
Everybody hates me. That's perfect.
34:36
Jabba hates me. Like, that's like the show.
34:38
Everybody hates Chris. Everybody.
34:39
Hates. But I want to know, Errol, you
34:45
brought that up and like, obviously, Ben, you see, like
34:48
you see it on a different, I guess a different spectrum as
34:52
far as like covering it and what you do.
34:54
Like why, why do they just let these people go out there all
34:58
Willy nilly? I'll use Cheryl Swoops as an
34:59
example. She's like, well, she had five
35:02
and six years. She's 25 years old.
35:04
She did it in 3 1/2 because she had a COVID short in the year in
35:07
2020 and she's only 22. Like how come there's no like?
35:13
And I think it's great for the WNBA just because it's creating
35:17
some type of feeling because it hasn't had any for a while.
35:22
And how they said that the Fever wouldn't have made the playoffs
35:25
without her. They won like 8 games the year
35:27
before like and then they go to they they go to the playoffs so.
35:31
Now, a tough moment there for Cheryl Swoops.
35:33
And she was sitting. She was.
35:34
Taking more than one elbow on on some of the dumb shit she said.
35:38
I know that's been unfortunate to see her and you got to think
35:41
too, but I mean, that's that's you're talking Errol's talking
35:43
about the women from today who are playing beefing with her on
35:46
the court. You're talking about previous
35:48
generations, you know, multiple times removed from the league.
35:52
And so there's obviously some some resentment there, but
35:55
unfortunately that was it like a tough moment where it wasn't
35:58
about your opinion. Like, oh, I don't think she's
36:00
going to be an All Star of the first year or whatever.
36:04
That's different than saying like she took five years and it
36:08
took X amount of games when that's just wrong, right?
36:11
And she is sitting opposite that modern day Walter Cronkite
36:15
Gilbert Arena. So I give her a little bit of
36:17
that. I I I will say this.
36:20
Look, we've all, all of us in this hot take space.
36:23
We're trying to predict the future of sports.
36:25
We've all had some some cold ones.
36:28
Like you can look up my takes on Jokic.
36:30
They're not my finest hour. But I don't Get the facts wrong
36:33
in terms of how many games a guy plays and whatnot.
36:36
So I think that, yeah, I think little job of like, you've seen
36:40
it at different times in basketball, like when Allen
36:42
Iverson came in the league, it was a big conversation about him
36:45
having to respect the elders of the game and having to, you
36:49
know, show love to the previous generation.
36:51
There was like a lot of that. Well, that was like, that was
36:53
too with like his, you know, wearing jerseys and chains and
36:57
all that stuff. All types of stuff, right?
37:00
But now it's like Lebron's generation has made it cool,
37:02
kind of to like, embrace the young.
37:04
Guys he like so you're bringing up LeBron now.
37:07
There we go so so you wanted to bring up LeBron James and I'm
37:11
going to tell you what I think about LeBron James and first of
37:13
all, it's not the NBA, it's the LJA, the LeBron James
37:19
association. It's what, a little?
37:21
Popcorn because he's going to go for.
37:23
A LeBron James is the biggest bitch of them all.
37:26
He's the greatest, second greatest.
37:27
Basketball player ever to play. I am going to tell you this
37:30
right now. He is the second greatest.
37:32
From Ohio, that's your man. I don't know what we're doing.
37:35
LeBron James. Listen, LeBron James is the
37:37
second greatest basketball player of all time, right behind
37:39
Michael Jordan. I won't argue that that is true.
37:42
But him politically and opening his mouth and throwing people
37:45
onto the bus and saying the things that he has said and
37:47
sticking up for assholes like, yes, Kyrie Irving, who's the
37:52
most disrespectful piece of garbage in the NBA.
37:57
Great, great ball handler, probably right behind AI.
38:00
You can argue that he's probably the second greatest ball handler
38:02
we've ever seen, but the fact is LeBron James has ruined the
38:06
game. Here he is right there.
38:08
Hey, he's a LeBron James enthusiast, right over there
38:11
with his little Kobe, whatever the hell it is.
38:13
Popcorn eating. You know, mongrel pretzel
38:16
eating. Bull sucker, can you?
38:19
All right, all right, so clearly you're not a LeBron fan.
38:21
I get. It no, I, I, I think he's the
38:23
second greatest basketball player of all time.
38:25
I say, no, you're not. You're not a fan and he's an
38:27
idiot. That's pretty offensive and
38:29
derived sort of things about it. I see where you stand, but I'll
38:32
ask you this much like I'm trying to think in culture, pop
38:36
culture, media, entertainment, sports and sports are a part of
38:40
that. Who has been introduced to us as
38:45
the chosen 1 like this is the guy from like 16 and then held
38:50
that to 41 without jumping on the couch like Tom Cruise and
38:56
having Scientology debates and things without having real
39:01
awesome grace you. Brought now you brought it up.
39:03
OK, This is the same LeBron James that was going to the PD P
39:07
Diddy parties, hanging out with P Diddy, going to those freak
39:10
offs. OK, Please, LJA baby, if it's
39:15
not P Diddy, it's Spike friggin Lee.
39:18
I am done. LJA.
39:20
Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Silver is LeBron James's bitch.
39:24
That's what he is. You can eat.
39:26
It. You can size.
39:28
As someone who, as someone who takes great, as someone who
39:31
takes great pride, I know you're covering the NBA advise.
39:35
It's a little much, what you're saying.
39:38
Considering. What this guy has the guy built
39:41
a school dog like he built a school like.
39:44
If I had his money, I'd be building churches, schools.
39:47
And he had and he stood up for a lot of marginalized people.
39:50
And I think he's actually created the point I was
39:52
originally trying to make, which I think is kind of interesting.
39:55
You'll indulge me for a moment. Let's go.
39:57
The idea that like this next generation of players, there's
40:00
not this resentment right now when LeBron and KD and Steph are
40:04
all going to be passing the torch.
40:06
There's kind of a brotherhood that's formed, there's economic
40:08
empowerment, There's like taking your career into your own hands.
40:12
There's these guys are passing the torch and they're given the
40:15
blueprint. They're not sitting in their
40:17
ivory towers saying you guys are the next Gen.
40:20
You're not having it like us. We're not seeing that from these
40:23
guys. Really, Katie has how many
40:24
Twitter accounts 8910? Talking to talking to you, he's
40:29
talking to you what I'm talking about when he's sitting down
40:32
with Victor Wimbunyama and giving him jewels on how to be a
40:36
pro at the highest level and be a global superstar when you're,
40:39
you know, come on, man, like these guys.
40:41
That's the thing too. And Jabba, you know, like you
40:44
guys get all this money and you're so young and all this
40:46
fame and we know how many guys can we talk about who messed it
40:50
up or blue in? Then what do you?
40:53
Think that it is. It is more prevalent, as you
40:56
said, like from the men's side of thing.
40:59
Wouldn't like now that they're getting this opportunity from
41:02
the women's side of it, Wouldn't you want to embrace that more to
41:05
like as, as we always get excited about the guy that signs
41:09
a great contract before us because he sets the mark now and
41:13
now boom, that mark. Now I'm going to have the
41:15
opportunity to get a shoe deal or to, to make more in
41:18
arbitration or free agency or have that marketing stuff.
41:21
I just, we're all to be the best that we can be.
41:25
And they get to that level, right?
41:28
And so wouldn't you want to praise that and be like, look at
41:30
all this stuff. Look at how much more our
41:32
attendance is up. And like, I would, I would
41:34
shower her with all the praise in the world.
41:36
And is she the only one? No, there's been great players
41:39
before. You know, Lobo, you've had Lisa
41:41
Leslie, you've had a ton of great women's basketball
41:45
players. And then when somebody comes
41:47
like this, I just, it just blows my mind.
41:49
You're absolutely right. You know, it's a watershed
41:51
moment for the league and it's the only year 2 for her.
41:54
So I still think there's some growing pains with it.
41:56
And I think eventually when this new collective bargaining
41:59
agreement gets done, which is like has everybody on edge right
42:02
now and all of its influx TV and new media partners and stuff,
42:05
once that dust settles, they'll be like, oh, this is the golden
42:09
goose. We all can eat off this.
42:11
The game is going to grow. You have 3 new franchises in the
42:14
next three years I think in Toronto, and you already saw
42:18
Golden State, you're going to Troy.
42:19
They just announced Cleveland. So it's like when they when
42:23
Caitlin Clark starts coming to town in those cities and they
42:25
realize, oh, wow, the hotels sold out.
42:28
Oh, wow, ESPN here. Oh, look at countdown here.
42:31
Look at okay, the restaurant sold out.
42:33
Like I think let's give us some time.
42:35
It's just happening right now. Not.
42:41
Arrows watching The Jets because they just signed a new lineman
42:45
and they're going. To take it on the of course,
42:47
leave it up to all these so-called radio or television
42:52
stars to attack me about the New York Jets.
42:55
I haven't even mentioned The Jets except you idiots bringing
42:59
up The Jets and now all of a sudden, oh, he's a jet fan.
43:01
Let's go attack him. All right.
43:04
Anyways, we love you, man, and this was a great interview.
43:07
You're. Fit.
43:07
I appreciate you guys having me on.
43:09
You guys are building something. I've been a fan Java for a long
43:11
time. I want to get some Nick Swisher
43:13
stories off air. You can't bro me unless you know
43:16
me. I love that.
43:16
Dude. But there's an Ohio guy.
43:20
But, but you guys are great. Thank you for having me, man.
43:22
Let's chop it up when the season starts for these Knicks.
43:25
I will tell you Ben, we had a clicker one time and he kept
43:27
saying bro, we just threw the damn clicker away because we
43:29
couldn't keep. Every time he says, bro, you're
43:31
like, it's like a doorman at a club and you're like.
43:34
I was like, all right, I'm done. I think me and Cece were like,
43:37
how many you got? I was like 73.
43:38
He's like, yeah, I'm like 70. I was like I'm.
43:40
I'm done. Can we just, can we have it on
43:42
like an 11 today, not like a four?
43:44
We're only in like the 5th inning too.
43:46
It's like barely half over. A lot of those play by play
43:49
guys, I mean, they're just absolutely putrid.
43:51
I'm not going to mention any names, no.
43:53
You guys are awesome. Thank you for having me on man,
43:55
I love chopping it up. Absolutely, Ben.
43:57
We really appreciate first time on our show so you could tell
44:00
the fans what we really are. I'm probably saying, man, that
44:03
guy's out of his mind, but. I like it.
44:05
I like it. It's spicy.
44:07
Let's mix it up. Yeah.
44:08
Well, and we'll talk about Diddy another time.
44:11
I've been to a few. Yeah, well, we'll step away.
44:13
Hopefully you don't go to them anyways.
44:15
Ben Lyons, ladies and gentlemen, he's great.
44:20
That was fun. That was fun.
44:22
I like that. That was fun.
44:24
I I can't lie that that was a fun interview.
44:27
He had a lot of fun. You could tell he had a lot of
44:29
fun and we went all over the place after the Knicks, so it
44:32
was great. Thank you to Ben Lyons.
44:34
He was fantastic. NBA Knicks NBATV contributor.
44:37
I've seen him on NBATV. He's he's sensational and he
44:41
knows his Knicks. There's no question that he
44:43
does. Let's go to Speedy's 6 pack of
44:46
the day. Let's have a sixer.
44:49
Hey, who wants to play Drink the Beer?
44:51
It's time for the Speedy 6 pack of the way.
44:55
I didn't see my Wiener. No, there's no wieners involved,
44:59
though I would hope. But different theme this week
45:03
for for us. Fish had this idea with some NHL
45:07
and NBA offseason rumors. We'll start in the NHL, the
45:11
biggest. Speedy, hold on one second,
45:12
Speedy. Before we get started, I just
45:14
want everyone to know that we're doing a countdown and it starts
45:18
with #6. So we'll do 3 hockey to start,
45:21
then three NBA. The biggest signing this
45:23
weekend, eight and a half, $1,000,000 per year.
45:25
The the Hurricanes bringing in Nikolai Ehlers, the fast winger
45:28
from the Winnipeg Jets. Good goal scorer, 6 years, $51
45:31
million deal. An organization that's been
45:33
rumored for many different teams for players for a while.
45:36
Obviously the big Mika Rotnen story, they could not keep him.
45:38
They struck out on Gentzel. Is this their guy?
45:41
Is it enough? We'll say.
45:42
Why are you bringing in another player when you just need a
45:45
goalie? You have a chance to go and
45:47
spend some money on a goalie, you spend it on another forward.
45:50
Makes no sense. Makes no sense. #5 All right,
45:54
we'll go to the New York Islanders.
45:56
They win a bidding war for a highly touted prospect and a
45:58
Maxim Chabanov. The Rangers ran on him too, as
46:01
well as the Philadelphia Flyers, 57.57 points and I believe 67
46:06
games in Russia last year, the most I think since that Karil
46:09
Caprazov year. So Islanders win a bidding war,
46:12
More young talent, more young forward talent going to the New
46:15
York. Island an absolute slam dunk.
46:18
This guy could be a forty goal scorer just so just say.
46:21
Just want to let everybody know that for the Islanders.
46:24
Best Russian player they've had since Yashin.
46:27
You go back that far. He's he's good.
46:29
He's going to be really, really good.
46:30
And by the way, the story is him and Sarokin are very close and
46:35
that's why he went there so. All right #4 and we'll round out
46:39
hockey with the other end of the aisle of New York, with the New
46:43
York Rangers. Chris Drury, when he was asked
46:45
about an Art Tammy Panarin contract extension, he had no
46:48
words. He dropped dead silent on that
46:51
one year left on his deal. Obviously, there's the scandal
46:53
with the, with the, with the Russian, with the whole, the sex
46:56
prostitution thing or whatever it was in 2023 that the Rangers
46:59
brushed under the rug. But Chris Drury reluctant to
47:02
sign him. Is it good, Is it bad?
47:04
What do we got? Terrible.
47:05
Absolutely terrible. He'll leave.
47:08
The Rangers will win another Stanley Cup.
47:10
Typical. Typical.
47:11
Rangers, they better get something for him if they're
47:13
going to. They can't just get nothing.
47:15
Chris Drury is the worst. GM I'm going to say he like if
47:18
there's any like 5 players not to blame for the Rangers Wolves
47:21
last year Panera still did well enough where they have to try.
47:23
To get look look, does he drive you a little mad with like his
47:27
defensive not giving a crap on the back check at times?
47:30
Sure, but what he can do offensively is something that
47:33
only about 10 guys in the world can do.
47:35
So you got to pay that guy and you got to keep him around.
47:39
He's that good. He's been here.
47:40
That 2023 thing was the the leader of Russia trying to
47:45
blackmail his family to get him in trouble.
47:47
He did nothing wrong in that whole situation.
47:50
It was trumped up bullshit. So I'm glad he's OK.
47:54
I hope that the jury doesn't look at that as a reason not to
47:57
keep them, because that would be probably the worst of all the
48:00
reasons not to keep them. I don't think there are any good
48:02
ones to be honest with you. #3 All right.
48:06
Let's shift to the NBA. We'll have a lot more insight on
48:08
this on Thursday with our guest Bradley Beal and the Suns
48:11
already discussing a buyer. And apparently the Miami Heat
48:13
are pretty interested on jumping on him if he does get bought
48:17
out. And then and the Lakers,
48:18
naturally, Bradley Beal already said he wanted to play for the
48:20
Lakers with the Suns trying to get it done quickly here.
48:23
Bradley Beal on his way out, looking very likely.
48:27
Bradley Beal. Yeah, I was just gonna say it's,
48:31
I felt like it was only a matter of time, but it's just going to
48:34
where he ended up. Who gives a crap where Bradley
48:36
Beal goes? Honestly, who cares?
48:39
Everywhere he go it goes. He just absolutely ruins those
48:42
teams so who cares? You know what it's going to be,
48:44
though, It's going to be he's not going to be called Bradley
48:47
Beal anymore. It's going to be the Bradley
48:48
Beal trade exception because that's how he's going to be
48:51
referred to as the only way that he's relevant for the next
48:54
couple of years because he's just going to be a big contract.
48:56
The teams are constantly moving so they can make deals work for
49:00
guys that make their team better.
49:01
Not even in the near term because if you're taking on
49:04
Bill's contract, you're not getting much for it right now.
49:08
Number. 2 All right, the one that broke kind of before the
49:10
show, the Orlando Magic giving Paolo Banqueiro A5 year 287.
49:15
It's the rookie Max contract and put into perspective when the
49:19
Grizzlies gave John Moran to rookie Max contract, it was five
49:21
years, two O 7 and it's gone up even more since then.
49:24
So is it too much money? No, he's a Duke guy.
49:28
He's a great player. He's the franchise of the
49:31
organization that is trying to bring in another superstar to
49:34
play with him. It's a perfect fit.
49:36
You got to pay him because if they don't pay him, somebody
49:38
else will. So I I think it's a good move
49:41
for the Orlando Magic. I don't know why anybody would
49:43
argue that he doesn't deserve. Oh, he's just, yeah, he's
49:44
tremendous when player, player, when he's healthy, top 20
49:46
player. That's just hoping you can stay
49:48
healthy at that point. But if you want to get a
49:49
superstar, you got to have your a good.
49:51
Player so they're they're trying they're trying to spike it up.
49:53
They're trying to get the obviously the salary cap is
49:56
going to continue to increase in the NBA and they're banking on
49:58
that being a bargain let down the road.
50:01
Well, yeah. And did you see two, if he gets
50:02
like player of the year or MVP or something goes up another
50:06
30%, Yeah. He can go up to 287.
50:09
He. Will definitely be a a first NBA
50:13
player, maybe not first or second NBA team player.
50:17
That's the type of player he is. From what I understood, he only
50:19
has to do it one time. As soon as he gets that one time
50:22
then it goes up. But it doesn't.
50:24
It doesn't accrue like OK, now you get a 60%, it's just a one
50:28
time if you hit it 30%. They're going for it next year
50:31
that that E is wide open. There's no reason why they
50:33
shouldn't go for it. They're surrounding it with
50:34
shooters now. I think they're doing a smart
50:37
job and you got to pay the man who is a centerpiece.
50:39
Makes a lot of sense. Number one, All right, last one,
50:43
there are rumors from Luca Doncic's camp that he might be
50:46
seeking a shorter contract with the Lakers and maybe banking for
50:49
one more contract in free agency.
50:50
He's eligible for four years and 2:48 this offseason if the
50:54
Lakers want to give it to him. But Luca might be thinking
50:56
otherwise. And the rumors were talking
50:58
about last week, though the new ownership might want to build
50:59
around Luca. Maybe they got to do it a little
51:02
differently. Listen to the name, guys.
51:04
Listen to the team, the Boston Celtics.
51:07
I don't think it's hidden or even a thought in his mind that
51:11
that's a place that he would be looking at right now.
51:13
Brad Stevens is a smart man. He knows he's trying to save
51:17
money. He's trying to push money
51:19
outside of Boston right now. He knows Jason Tandem is out for
51:22
the season. They're going to have a season
51:24
where they're going to be a borderline back and forth
51:27
playoff team. This is not going to be their
51:29
year. Bet on Luka Doncic being a
51:32
player that the Boston Celtics could be gunning for.
51:35
So. The Lakers are going to trade
51:38
with the Celtics. No, I, I, he's going to be a
51:40
free agent. He's going to go to free agency.
51:42
They're not going to trade him. He's going to go to free agency.
51:45
I mean, they can't let him go for nothing if if he's going to
51:48
leave, they got to do something. You would.
51:49
You know who runs the Lakers right now, right?
51:51
You know who's running the Lakers, right?
51:53
It's not Genie Boss. It's not anything.
51:55
You know who's running the Lakers?
51:57
The Dodgers owner. No, the GM of the Lakers right
52:00
now. It's not Genie Bus, no Pelinka
52:04
Pelinka. And he is a horrible GM.
52:06
He does not know what he's doing.
52:08
So he is that stupid to let him go to free agency.
52:11
So yeah, he'll probably do a John Tavar.
52:14
So he'll say, yeah, I'll sign with the Lakers and then in the
52:16
offseason say, yeah, I'm not signing with you guys, goodbye.
52:19
You know what's up? That's what he's going to do.
52:21
That has been yet another great 6 pack with speedy Petey.
52:26
Right. I will say this, and for all you
52:29
Laker fans out there that are crying about this Luca Doncic
52:33
thing, at least you got him for another year or two and then.
52:36
Isn't it two years? Yeah, a year or two.
52:40
Next year, they're gonna be there Are people going to say
52:43
that he should sign the extension?
52:45
He's not signing any extension. He's going to go to free agency
52:47
and he's going to spin the wheel, make the deal and the
52:50
Lakers are going to have nothing to say.
52:51
And then they can move him all he wants.
52:53
He's still going to go to free agency.
52:55
He's not signing any contract. I don't think he wants to be a
52:57
Laker. And I I think obviously the Bus
52:59
family doesn't own the team anymore.
53:00
They don't give a crap anyways. We call this What's that smell?
53:04
Hopefully. Hold up, what is that smell?
53:07
Wow. Wow, you don't see that every
53:15
day. I got the bubble guts.
53:20
I've missed that. The bubble guts.
53:21
I wasn't there that day. I needed a back story.
53:23
Made. Money.
53:24
No. No.
53:25
Yeah. Java and Josh Towers were
53:27
exchanging some interesting stories.
53:29
Somehow that came up because it was Java's debut.
53:31
The same with what was it when Josh plunked a rod twice?
53:34
Was is that a Java? Yeah.
53:36
Yeah. Well, he plunked, he plunked a
53:38
rod and then we clear basis. Right.
53:40
Right. I never use my drops because I'm
53:43
sitting right here. If I want to say it, I'll just
53:45
say it. I just use everybody.
53:47
Else why, why, why would you do that when you have an arsenal of
53:50
defense and then you have bubble gums?
53:51
It's. Good for both of them.
53:53
Slap that ass. All right, All right.
54:00
We had to get everybody in. It's pretty.
54:01
Simple. It's just.
54:02
It's just the four. Of us right now so it's pretty
54:05
simple ladies and gentlemen all you got to do is we're going to
54:08
give you a story and we're going to tell you what it smells like
54:10
it's it's pretty simple if you do this all the time we're going
54:12
to go fish speedy Jabba me let's go for it.
54:17
Bing, Bing, Bing. All right, speedy.
54:19
If there's music, throw it on real quick for what's that
54:22
smell? And guys, we know that the
54:25
baseball, we started the show tonight with the MLB All Star
54:29
game being naming its pitchers and reserves, but it had to be
54:34
delayed for over 10 minutes because the cornhole
54:39
championships were on ESPN. Yes, they we had to wait.
54:44
Until cornhole, women's cornhole or I guess intergender or
54:50
whatever men and women's cornhole team mixed double S
54:53
mixed double S cornhole had to finish before we were able to
54:57
get the All Star game. I I've seen things be preempted
55:01
before. I've never seen cornhole preempt
55:06
Major League Baseball. What does that smell like?
55:09
It smells like the great cornhole.
55:10
Leo didn't get enough teepee for his bunghole.
55:14
All right, so I'm gonna, we had the Bill Belichick story and
55:17
dial up. I'll go with a different Bill
55:19
Belichick story and him and Deion Sanders not wanting to be
55:22
featured in the new EA college football 26 video game.
55:26
Deion Sanders wants all money in all other ways, including
55:29
illegal Arabian stuff, but doesn't want that.
55:31
And then who knows what his girlfriend said about what Bill
55:34
Belichick's girlfriend said about not wanting his features.
55:36
So if you remember some of the Maddens in the in the 2000s, you
55:40
end up going by these very stereo, these very like generic
55:43
coach names. All of a suddenly this is super
55:45
random or New England coach or something like that for
55:47
Belichick, Sean Payton was ended up being it for one year.
55:50
So what does that smell like? It smells like a bunch of
55:53
gremlins, or Travis Hunters, as Errol calls them, jumping into a
55:57
barrel full of tar all. Right, that's an inside.
56:05
Ground yeah, we're really going. I am going to go with.
56:10
I don't know if you guys saw this, we didn't touch on it.
56:13
We kind of touched on everything else that the Yankees, but I
56:16
don't know if you guys saw it, but Anthony Volpe threw a ball
56:20
and hit Aaron Judge in the face. Yeah, in between innings.
56:24
In between innings, like there was a line drive to him.
56:26
He turns and judges just running in.
56:29
He throws the one up and it literally like it put a cut on
56:33
his face. He came up to bat with a a
56:35
Band-Aid or whatever. It was his next at bat.
56:38
And I'm like, what? What the hell is going on right
56:40
now? Like when when it rains, it
56:41
pours. I go.
56:43
That's just giving you giving Volpe a reason to take a hike.
56:46
Could you imagine if something worse would have happened and
56:49
the luck that judges had with injuries?
56:51
I'm like, what, what, what are we doing here?
56:54
Like, let's, let's not pour salt in the moon, Volpe that you know
56:57
that it, it smells like you just crapped your pants because you
57:02
saw your career just flash in front of your eyes.
57:05
And you definitely diarrhea without dude wipes.
57:09
Wow. As long as she's using dude
57:12
wipes and taking care of my tum hole I'm good.
57:15
He needed a whole package after that happened now.
57:17
The question if if you had bubble guts, Jabba, what did
57:20
Anthony Volt pay have? What does Anthony Volt Pay have
57:23
right? Now, oh, could you imagine?
57:27
Lick my butt you you would just. Think like your life is over.
57:30
Oh, it's done. Like I would have walked.
57:32
Literally to the clubhouse and just started packing my back at
57:35
that point. This makes my pecker hard.
57:38
Like, sorry, all right, sweet. I can't hit with anybody in
57:40
scoring position. I'm making errors.
57:42
I'm hitting 220. Let me just go ahead and pack it
57:44
up. I'm going to go.
57:45
What about you can hit Judge right in the face and it's
57:47
right, Yeah, you can throw in. Just close.
57:51
Maybe Volpe will follow it up with swinging at Alvin Kamara's
57:53
first pitch. I hope not.
57:55
Wouldn't. Surprise.
57:58
Me All right, ladies and gentlemen, our final What's that
58:01
smell? Goes to a very interesting lady.
58:04
She has her own show, one of the biggest podcast in the country,
58:08
Alex Cooper. She's the podcaster of Call Her
58:13
Daddy. Alex Cooper appearance
58:15
thoroughly enjoyed herself during the 7th inning stretch of
58:19
Take Me Out to the Ball game. Not everyone on the hand of the
58:22
Chicago Cubs game against the Saint Louis Cardinals seem to
58:26
feel the same way about Call Her Daddy's podcast host.
58:30
As she was singing Take Me Out to the Ball game as she forgot
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some words to Take Me Out to the ball game as she got booed at
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Wrigley Stadium. It was absolutely embarrassing.
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How do you not know the words to Take Me Out to the ball game?
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I think every single person, even non sports fans know the
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song Take Me Out to the Ball game and she was messing up on
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the word. She didn't even know the tune of
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the song. It was embarrassing.
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So what does that smell like? Well, it smells like Jabba's ass
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as he wipes his ass with Dude wipes, so there you go.
59:09
Joey bag of Donuts over there. There you go, I hopefully we
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don't stick any Donuts in his ass, that's for sure.
59:15
Especially if it's hungry anyways.
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No, we just, we just do Oreos. On this show, no.
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That's Mikey C. That's Mikey C That's Mikey C He
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does a lot of stupid things, but hopefully nobody gets to
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experience that. I I didn't, but I've heard
59:28
stories, let me tell you from women that actually told me.
59:31
These are true stories. Anyways, a thank you to Ben
59:34
Lyons for joining us at Knicks NBATV insider contributor.
59:39
He does a lot of stuff for the NBATV.
59:41
So if you haven't checked them out, he's fantastic.
59:43
So thank you for joining us and laughing with us and enjoying in
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hours, whatever it is right over there.
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The dozen of you know, Orioles in Mikey CS ass.
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As we all know, Carl doesn't like the old myth.
59:57
Carl plays with himself. As we all know, he does.
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Anyways, thank you to Ben Lyons, thank you to all the fans on
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1:00:17
We'll be back on Thursday. Speedy, who would?
1:00:19
Who do we have on the show? Return to the show at 9:45 will
1:00:22
be Phoenix Suns play by by broadcaster and Dallas Cowboys
1:00:25
play by play broadcaster Kevin Ray.
1:00:27
Oh, Kevin, he'll join us. And by the way, Kevin, I'm sure
1:00:29
he has his own thoughts about George Pickens, as we heard CD
1:00:32
Lamb and George Pickens on a broadcast recently and CD came
1:00:36
out and I wouldn't have ever thought this to to be true.
1:00:39
CD Lamb said there's no one or two, it's all once.
1:00:43
And he says now you got to contend with two number ones on
1:00:47
one roster. Well, we'll see how that works
1:00:49
for the whole season when George Pickens doesn't see enough
1:00:51
balls, especially up his ass. And if he does, maybe somebody's
1:00:54
going to bend over and give him a nice little poutang pie, as
1:00:58
Speedy would. Say that's why Kevante Turpin
1:01:00
had to do what he did, because he knew he wasn't a #1.
1:01:03
Oh, absolutely. By the way, Speedy, I haven't
1:01:05
used this drop in a long time. Don't share a poutang pie with
1:01:08
the rock. Anyways, that's it for our show,
1:01:10
ladies and gentlemen. We'll be back with Nick Goody on
1:01:13
Thursday. Hopefully Tommy feels better.
1:01:15
He's pooping, he's scooping and let it dish out speedy as we
1:01:19
dish got by to all the fans. By the way, thank you to our
1:01:22
our, our, our social media people.
1:01:24
I'm not going to mention any names because I don't want to
1:01:26
throw them throw anybody a bone. So they steal our guys.
1:01:30
But thank you to our our interns, all the guys, Jake,
1:01:33
Zach, Aaron, all the guys on our social media, all the writers on
1:01:38
our website. Thank you to all to all a good
1:01:40
night. As I always say, Santa's not
1:01:42
back. And if Santa is Santa's going to
1:01:44
be riding up Speedy's Jot strap. Good night, it.
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