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Best case scenario for Iowa football, Cubs rolls Cards, Big 12 Football Win Totals, Bill Seals Talks Cyclones · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, good afternoon. Welcome to Miller and Condon on
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a Thursday. The Iowa Sports Radio Network
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Trent Condon and Ken Miller for the next couple of hours we get
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things rolling. Turn things over the drive at 2
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Lucas strain and do be determined Co host will take you
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from until 5:00 and then overtime.
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I were at that point as Heather is on vacation.
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She's in Alaska. She had an up close and personal
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with a bear. I think there was a fence
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between. Them you think so?
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Or a cage. Yeah, that seemed.
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Awfully close. It did seem awful close, but
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she's on an Alaskan cruise and good for her getting away and
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having some time to do that. But anyways, Lucas will be in
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here at 2:00. Here's what's coming up with
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Trent and I. Yesterday we were just full.
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We didn't have a chance to talk about the Cyclones and TJ
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Otzelberger's press conference from Tuesday of this week.
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So today Bill Seals will join us.
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Catch up with Bill Seals. He was part of it, of course.
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And we'll get the latest on the doings at Iowa State with Bill
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Seals, cyclonereport.com, as they get set to emerge to part
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of the On Three network. That should be any day.
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So if you're a subscriber to either one, you'll get them both
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for the price of 1, which is good news.
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At least I see it from from the paying subscribers out there.
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So Bill seals the bottom of the hour, hour number two.
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We're going to take a look at the Big 10 and do so with a guy
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that covers Oregon. I think we can do a lot of these
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in the old weeks leading up to the to August to fall camp.
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Maybe different voices from around the country and how they
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see the leagues that move the needle here in the state of
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Iowa. We'll get some guys that to
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cover a team in the Big 12. Chris Level comes to mind from
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Texas Tech. We'll get him today.
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We've got a guy that covers, as I mentioned, Oregon from
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lockdown. What's his name?
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Spencer. Spencer McLaughlin.
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Spencer McLaughlin. So actually did a crossover
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episode with Spencer's. We're going through our team
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previews, whoever I was matching up with throughout the course of
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the year, and I'll have those next week when I'm on vacation,
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so. Every one of them.
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So I'll have Indiana and Oregon, I have those already in the can
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ready to go next week. And a little crossover edition,
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getting to know the opponent a little bit.
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Spencer also is the host of Locked on College Football, the
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daily college football podcast. Is he?
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Really. And he is the voice of the
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Southern Utah football guy. He is.
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Spencer is really fun. He's really goofy.
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You either will get a kick out of him or he'll annoy the crap
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out of you. But he is.
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So if he's back on these airwaves, you don't know which
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way. You know exactly what it is.
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Ken sometimes can be a little bit slow, as we learned a couple
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years ago with Boog in the booth.
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He didn't like a marquee and now he's beloved.
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So we'll see how things go with Spencer, but I think our our
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listeners will get a kick out of him.
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Knows the big 10 incredibly well.
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Obviously the connection to Oregon and he hosts our big time
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squad show from time to time that we do when all of us get
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together, at least half the teams get together.
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So he has a a good mind in college football.
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And Kenneth, we're going through Oregon, Iowa coming up this
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year. That's a really big game.
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It's a game that when you're looking at if Iowa has a special
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season, you know, I want to put it this way, if Iowa goes 10:00
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and 2:00. I won't be shocked.
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But both their losses are to Oregon and Penn State.
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Is there enough depth in the resume?
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Because you can already hear the naysayers come November, right?
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Didn't play Michigan, didn't play Ohio State.
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Not their fault. Lost to Oregon, lost to Penn
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State. Not going to be in the Big 10
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championship game to to help build up that resume.
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Last year nine and three got in with that last spot.
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A10 and two Iowa team that loses to the two heavyweights and
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let's say Indiana takes a step back in their seven and five and
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Iowa State has a. Seven, they got a really good
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quarterback. They do.
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I love Mendoza but they the rest of those teams also there isn't
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a signature win in there. Is it enough?
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You know, I on the surface I want to say yes, but not knowing
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how everybody else's season, yes.
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It's not a vacuum, right? It's depended on everybody else.
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I can just hear the narrative already, can't you?
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You've heard it before. Yes, you lost to the two teams.
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Just post it right behind me. Yes, you lost to the two teams.
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You played with the Pulse. The rest of your teams.
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There isn't a signature victory on there.
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Oh, you went to Iowa State in Wisconsin and and Nebraska and
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who cares? That's what the national
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conversation will be. We know here how difficult that
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will be. And again, it could be a year
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where that easily gets them in, it gets them an eighth seed, or
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it could be a year where they're fighting and then we get into a
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10 and two Iowa team versus a nine and three SEC team A9 and
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three Tennessee team, A9 and three South Carolina.
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I would. Love to have that argument in
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that debate. So are they closer to a 10 and
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two team, or a six and six? Team six and six, I think so
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too. I mean, we're we're going to the
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other direction because I think we're there.
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This team's going to be OK. I didn't even know if they were
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going to be a six and six team before Kanowski.
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Yeah, true. But yeah, I think they're closer
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to 6:00 and 6:00 than they are 10 and 2.
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Yeah, the number is now down to 6 1/2 at a lot of places.
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It opened at 7 1/2. The number I'm referring to is
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the wind total that's been assigned to their 2012 season.
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You bet the over or the under. And now that number is at 6 1/2,
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but it's heavily juiced to the over at 6 1/2.
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We shall see. Iowa State's remains at 7 1/2.
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So we look forward to that with Spencer McLaughlin.
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And then we'll take a look back. Our friend Chris Monster from up
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in the Twin Cities area. He does a lot of college
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basketball, but he has a lot of the college basketball into the
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NBA lot of really, I, I think a good resource when it comes to
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the draft. We'll talk about him.
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Did you watch much of it last night?
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I got in late, it was after 9. I was just like pick 26.
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I saw the back-to-back Brooklyn picks towards the end there I
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was not into. 27, yeah. I guess I did flip it out right
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away. Yeah, I saw Danny Wolf crying.
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Saw. His brother.
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Yes, the emotion that was covered there, but overall, I
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don't know why. He can't blows Trent.
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Is it as simple as that? I think it is.
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I think it's as simple as that. You just just enough Stephen A
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Smith. I mean, we we just would force
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fed him. This guy makes 20 million a
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year, makes $20 million and good for him.
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More power to him for doing it. Not my cup of tea, not my cup of
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tea. But apparently he must move a
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needle because the four letter network is is I mean that that's
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huge money obviously for what he does.
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And then the guy former GMI can't think.
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Of his Myers. Bob Myers, he's the guy with the
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squirrel on his. He's got the worst.
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Squirrel. I mean, it's, it's just awful.
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I mean if he needs to go see Leon.
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He does. And you know what?
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When you put the thing on top of your head, make it match the,
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you know, the actual hair that you have, the crown of your
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head. It's so obvious.
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But anyways, vague vanity aside, it's just not good.
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Do you think it is? It's not my AND, and I like Jay
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Billis. He's terrific, I really.
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And where's Fran for Schiller, who covers college basketball?
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Right, he's there, he's in buildings, he talks to people
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and not just goes to call a game, right?
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That's a guy that is in the. Lives and after soft days he
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goes watch his games. I thought the most compelling
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part, though, was Ace Bailey. Yeah, the 5T boy was he pissed
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off. Oh yeah, I mean, just trying to
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dictate where he wants. He wanted to go to a big market
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and he ends up in salt. Lake goes to Salt Lake City of
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all the places. Too fun.
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There you go. Big city life, No Salt Lake City
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I've heard. The sidewalks at 6:00.
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I've heard Salt Lake City is a beautiful city.
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I've. Only been to the airport.
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And. It's a beautiful airport.
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It's a vault. It's not what we well, you.
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Couldn't I don't think, and I could be wrong.
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Maybe this was just hearsay and I I thought it was a dry city.
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Not anymore, right? You.
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Couldn't get a beer? Right.
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And those laws drink have relaxed.
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It is. I know you can't bet on sports
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there. Well, and they'll be state #50
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right? A number, yes, I believe it will
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be state 50. Not that that's the be all end
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all, but this is. Kind of maybe just for us, yeah.
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Really. Yeah, Our show wouldn't play
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well there. No, not at all.
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Oh, we hope it does here. But yeah, but Ace Bailey going
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going to Utah of all places, just cracked.
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Yeah, he was pissed off. You know what pic I liked?
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I liked what the Timberwolves did.
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And I know nothing about the guy.
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OK, I I'll be. Honest.
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Tell me. Joan Behringer is his name.
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I think that's it means Joan, and that's Joan.
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Right, there's Joan here. It's my mom's name, Joan, but
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the late my, my, my, my late mother, 18 years old, won't be
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19 until November, right? So he's young.
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He is a kid that's played basketball all of four years,
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Four years he played soccer. And the reason he switched to
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basketball, he couldn't get shoes big enough to fit him.
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He's a Frenchman. He's from France.
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Who's going to tutor him? Rudy Gobert from France.
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This guy is as raw as raw can be.
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But if you're drafting on the come, I like the pick.
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What does this do for Luca Garza?
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No, yeah. You know, as you take it to
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another, 'cause he's under contract this year.
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Garza is, yes. Well, I think this is his final.
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Didn't he sign a two year deal? It was, I don't know if it was
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league minimum. It was, it was over $2,000,000.
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I'm not sure what league minimum. 4.5 over the two years.
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OK. Would that be league minimum 22
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million in that league? I bet it might be.
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Pretty close, right? And that's probably what he's
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like, yeah, he'll be an, he'll be an unrestricted free agent
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though after this year, right. So he's got one more year under
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contract, one more year with the T Wolves.
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But yeah, that's probably another one where you say
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developmental guy Luca Garza's not going to be a rotational
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piece for us. Right.
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A professional, good cheerleader, Yep, can go in and
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get buckets. And that's where he plays the
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five two and as an undersized 5. And but he is he's got a chance
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to opt out. So we'll see where it goes.
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But Luca Garza may be moving on. Who knows, maybe he might be
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back. He's certainly got a a cap
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friendly contract if nothing else.
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So as we go from our college knowledge of things into the NBA
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and careful walking in, reading up mock drafts, and I saw a guy
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that I absolutely love, I think it's going to be a stud, Jace
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Richardson. And he was mocked, you know, in
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the 15. I'm like, what?
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That seems low, 15 to 20, Like that seems low.
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And when I flipped it on, who's still available, really?
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Jace Richardson, he goes 25 to the Magic, who needed shooting.
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They went out and got Does Pain to help out with that.
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I don't think Jason Richardson's going to be an All Star, but I
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think he is going to be a rotational.
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Piece enough of him at Spartyville.
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I I love the dude. I know he's not real tall.
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He's not a point. How old is he?
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He's 19, OK, he's 63632. Guards are tough, I get that.
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But think of those rotational pieces, those those guys that
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come in and go way back to Vinnie, Microwave, Johnson and
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and go forward from there. Those kind of players off the
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bench that are important pieces on good playoff teams.
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I think Jason Richardson's going to be one of those guests.
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Not right away, but I think that's what he's going to
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develop into. Well, something worth watching.
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The thing that one of the other aspects of the draft, Dylan
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Harper, Ron's kid, obviously we know Rutgers.
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Rutgers had the 2nd and the 5th pick and they won in games in
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conference. That's tough to do.
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Dylan Harper's contracts going to be, I think, like $56
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million. Ron Harper and his career made
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36 million. I saw that tweet last night. 5
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championship rate, 5 for Harper coupled with the Lakers.
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Come follow with the. With the Bulls, three with the
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Bulls, three with the Bulls and two with the Lakers.
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And I loved him on the Bulls. I thought he was a huge piece
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defensively in particular on those.
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He was the post baseball Bulls for Jordan, right?
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Jordan came back to basketball and then Ron Harper was there
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and he played in the Mac, didn't he not?
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He did, yeah. He was a Miami of Ohio.
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Was he? I'm really good.
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Miami of Ohio teams must have been.
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So when he was at Cleveland, that was a dude that could get
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buckets, too. I mean, you go back to the
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beginning of his career and he morphed into this defensive
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wizard. And people talk about Pippen and
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Jordan, but also with the length and the athleticism that you had
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with Ron Harper. There's a reason that team,
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yeah, they scored, but why? They were still good
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defensively, Ron. Harper was a big part.
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He was a huge part of that. A guy with that kind of size
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AT6465 that could guard point guards that could.
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In that era of basketball, there weren't many guys like that.
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Kids going to put his name on a contract and instantly be 20
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million up on pops, but not the rings.
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I mean that to this point's got a ring for every finger on on
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one of his hands. Good stuff there.
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Let's switch to baseball anymore on the NBAII didn't spend a ton
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of time on a trend again. I just, the ESPN stuff, just I,
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I, I tried, I tried the Cubs and the Cards were on last night and
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I got most of my attention throughout the game last night.
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Cubs bats woke up. Boyd was terrific in the game.
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They'll play the getaway game today as the Cubs try to even up
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the series or the Cardinals try to make up some ground as they
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would take three out of four on the on the Cubs.
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And a big take away at the end of the game.
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Who comes in there for the final inning?
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Porter Hodge. Yeah, good to see.
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About there. I wonder what they're going to
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do with him. You know, leverage wise, if he
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comes back, he's fine. He's back to that mid 90s
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fastball live arm ton of upside going forward because the
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bullpens been so good and do you want to?
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MO yeah, they've had a little bit of a hiccup, but overall, I
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agree. Yes, overall they've been really
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better than anybody thought. I think they have the best ERA
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in baseball. Bullpen ERA.
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Keller. 'S been great, field bar's been
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great, Palencia that I think they found their closer and even
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pomerance. Yes, yeah.
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I mean, guys that you wouldn't expect him definitely stepped
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up. So kind of how you ease him back
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in because ultimately and most of those veterans that you
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mentioned, Porter Hodges, you'd anticipate a guy you'd rather
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have in there in a big 8th inning compared to those guys
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just when you're looking at overall track record and what
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they still can be. So that was one to keep in
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there. Gave up a hit but got in there
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and got the final three outs of the ball game because going for.
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Did you watch Marquis or did you watch Chip Carey?
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Marquis? Yeah, me too.
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Yeah, me too. But Yep, I I agree with you.
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And and where do the Cubs go this weekend, do you know?
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The Cubs are in Houston. Oh, that's right, because Kyle
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Tucker's going back to Houston. They made a big deal about that
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in the Brighton. Horton gets the ball in game one
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on Friday. Is it?
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Yeah. Horton against Walter.
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Good stuff. Caitlin Clark is hurt.
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Again. Again, and this time it's a
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groin. Twitter says it happened late in
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the basketball game. Where were they last Seattle in
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the Seattle game where they they won the game that she was back
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on the floor up up a dozen points with like less than 10
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seconds left. And I and I guess she got in a
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collision with one of the Seattle players.
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And apparently it might may have happened then, but I don't know.
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I don't know if we can pinpoint this groin injury and say this
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is the reason she's won for 23 as a lot of her, you know, her
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fans want to do. I I don't think I can go there.
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Is it something, though, going back to Monday?
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Tyrese Halliburton? A Sunday night?
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Sure. An injury that wasn't maybe was
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because another injury that leads to a second injury and
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that's where we're going and that's where my mind went right
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away because I didn't see what the injury was right away.
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Just heard that, got the little alert thing that she was going
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to be out tonight and my thought was, well, it's probably back to
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the quad strain and that's what it was.
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No, this is a new injury. But is it a new injury?
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Well, the fair, fair question. I'm I'm not sure listening to
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Stephanie White, it seems like it's a new injury, but I'm just
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kind of, you know, looking at it from 30,000 feet, if you will.
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I don't know. She says she's a fast healer.
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I'm not sure what that means. Does this mean she's going to be
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back? She's only going to miss
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tonight's game, but obviously not having the the second season
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that she thought that a lot of her what the league, well the
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ones that care about the league wanted her to have.
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So they have back to backs. They are in Indiana.
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Play tonight and tomorrow. Night and they play tomorrow in
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Dallas against Page Becker's. Now we know the WNBA wants
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Caitlin there. Yeah, get back to the narrative
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going back to their freshman years.
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Should be. I'd be shocked if she plays
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tomorrow because I play today. Then they're off again.
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They don't play again until July 3rd next Thursday.
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You know what don't they hit? Well, hang on a second.
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When is the what's that got that made-up championship in the
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middle of the season that they're playing for?
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Yes. When is that?
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I don't know. I thought that was early next
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week. I am not sure because what is it
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Minnesota against Indiana? Yes, yeah, I'm not sure when
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that one is because they they have a big break at least in the
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schedule that I'm looking. At I think that made-up
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Championship has grown. What is that?
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The Commissioners Cup? Is that what they call it?
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Idea what it's called. The WNBA Commissioners Cup 2025.
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Here it is took place. Championship game will be on
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July 1st. There it is so.
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Nothing my WNBA knowledge. Mr. WNBA over there.
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So that will be Tuesday night. Well, now you got to sit her
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down. Both these games.
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Yeah, for sure. There's no way you play her
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tomorrow night against Dallas. No, they're safely in the
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playoffs, right? Even though the record's not as
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shiny as it once was. Right.
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Yeah, because 88 make it. Yeah, they're good.
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Connecticut, no chance. Chicago, No chance.
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Sparks and Wings? Doubtful.
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There's 4 right there. It would take a well, one of
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these teams is going to be out. That's around 500.
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I still have confidence in the next 30 games that they're going
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to be OK. Yeah, I I do too.
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So player in the Championship game.
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Player July 1st against the links, going the wrong way.
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Collier's hurt, Banged up. So she's out for the
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championship. No, no, no, she's just.
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She was leading the league in scoring.
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She was, but she hasn't played in over a week now.
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Oh wow, that's not good for them.
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That's a good score. What kind of year is Bridget
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Carlton having a good. Question, don't see anything
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haven't seen it's fever only for the most part for me till.
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Tuesday, yes, that would be another team on the court.
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We don't know if Caitlin will be able to answer the bell or not
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in that one, but I would be shocked if she and you're right,
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the league does want to see Paige V Caitlin tomorrow night.
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And Paige Becker's off to a terrific start in her career.
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She really is. She's a nice player.
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And obviously television networks who had that one.
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It's not, it's not one of the big networks, is it?
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Ion has. Oh Ion, yes.
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Still, they got numbers. They do.
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Numbers that they've never seen before.
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Eye on at. Least they did last year.
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At least they did last year. Good stuff.
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Did you make any wagers yesterday after you left the
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stage? Did you get into any NFL props
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or did dig into any college stuff or anything like that?
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I told you yesterday, I started to look a little bit at the game
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of the year spreads that were out there, looked at the locals.
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Of course we get Kansas State, Iowa State, that's been out
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there for a long time now and that thing kind of continues to
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tick up because wasn't it 2 1/2 at one point?
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Yes, it was. And now it's up to 3 1/2.
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Is it the Avery Johnson love that we were sold, sold a bill
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of goods with last year in Vegas?
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Is it just Avery Johnson? What is it about Kansas State at
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a neutral field that they should be a 3 1/2 point favorite
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against this Iowa State team? Because I can't get it.
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I, I cannot wrap my mind around 2 1/2.
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OK, 3 1/2 I'm not there. It seems like as the game's so
19:24
important that this, I know we say about the Cyhawk every year
19:28
that you know, both teams, both schools, one school will
19:32
obviously that will propel them to who knows where the other
19:35
team's going to have some ground to make up.
19:37
This is this is right off the bat.
19:40
Both of these schools get thrown into the deep end in my opinion,
19:43
because K State's going to be a factor in the Big 12.
19:45
I don't think there's any doubt about that.
19:47
K State is a major player in this league.
19:50
I'd, I'd be shocked if they weren't.
19:54
I was stayed beaten by what last year?
19:55
Touchdown that game, that game was here.
20:03
Is that the final game of the year?
20:05
It was final game of the regular season.
20:06
Yeah, 2921. Big Fox had it on that Saturday.
20:10
Did they? Had the snow game the year
20:12
before. Yeah, that was awesome.
20:14
The obvious awesome game. So here's the reason that I'm
20:17
ready to poke some holes. Avery Johnson was not the guy I
20:20
thought he was going. To be no, he did not live up to
20:23
it, I agree. So this team returns quite a bit
20:26
of starters defensively. Six and three for Bridget
20:27
Carlton, apparently. Thank you, Ben.
20:29
Benny. They bring in three transfer
20:33
offense alignment. OK.
20:37
In August, Yep, this offensive line is going to be up and
20:41
humming, coupled with a couple of transfer wide receivers and
20:44
and they're talented guys. You know, I know they're left
20:46
tackle. He came from Wagner, but it was
20:48
a guy that was very highly coveted in the portal.
20:51
Still 3 transfer offensive lineman, still a very young raw
20:54
quarterback. And Avery Johnson.
20:58
I I look at it and I just I can't get there with Kansas
21:00
State and when I was looking at their future numbers and some of
21:03
the over unders and to win the Big 12 and things like that did.
21:05
You shoot your members of 8 1/2 I.
21:07
Think it was. Right around Iowa State.
21:09
It was, yeah. I'm just not as sold as in
21:13
Kansas State being that good of it.
21:14
They'll be 8 and four, probably again.
21:16
Can you pull up the Big 12 win totals?
21:19
Yes, yes, I can find them. I'm anxious to see if there's
21:22
one that's before you look OK. Will there be one that's greater
21:28
than 10? Will there be a 10 1/2?
21:30
No, I think so either. I don't even know if they'll be
21:32
in they'll. Because somebody will have 9
21:34
1/2. There's just so much parity in
21:36
this league. All right.
21:37
I got them up here and these are from FanDuel.
21:40
That's where they first popped up, Arizona State.
21:43
And these are just listed alphabetically, so we can just
21:45
bounce around a little bit. I'm going to guess before I
21:47
click OK, this is the 8 1/2 that Arizona State will be. 8 1/2
21:51
back though, you're probably. Yeah, you're right.
21:59
It is 8 1/2 -. 128 on the under over is plus one O 4.
22:04
Who would be the next choice? Is it?
22:07
BYU or Texas Tech. Utah was awful last year.
22:14
I don't think they're going to get, I don't think they're going
22:16
to get the love heaped on him, on them.
22:18
There's a lot of folks that like TCU.
22:20
There's a lot of folks that like Baylor.
22:21
They've got a quarterback. I like Baylor.
22:24
Of those two, I like Baylor more.
22:26
I'll say BYU's next. BYU over under 8 1/2.
22:30
Juiced under -170 OK Texas Tech also 8 1/2 juiced under.
22:37
Everybody's going to be 8 1/2. 8 1/2 Let's see Kansas State
22:42
again. These are from FanDuel. 8 1/2
22:44
for. Iowa State 7 and a.
22:46
Half Iowa State is 7 1/2 Who? Are we missing?
22:50
Where's Baylor and TCU? Baylor's 7 1/2.
22:53
TCU is 6 1/2, Oklahoma State's 5 1/2, Utah 7 1/2.
23:02
There's one that surprised me. West Virginia was 5 1/2 and it
23:04
just popped. Off Take the under.
23:06
They're going to be that bad. I think, yeah.
23:09
This is this conference, though. This is what it's going to be. 8
23:14
1/2 is the is the is the. Greatest number?
23:18
That's wild. 9 and three, six and two.
23:20
Very well could get you in the Big 12.
23:21
You could go through the other Power 4 conferences and there's
23:23
nobody, it's even close. I mean, I would think that for
23:27
sure somebody's 10 1/2 in the SEC.
23:29
Yes, for sure, for sure. Somebody's 10 1/2 in the both
23:33
the ACC and the Big 10. Ohio State 10 1/2.
23:37
Oregon 10 1/2, Penn State 10 1/2.
23:41
So you got three right there off the top that are at 10 1/2.
23:45
Go go to the SEC because maybe they're more because George is
23:47
down a tick. And their schedule's really
23:49
tough. They're 9 1/2, as is Alabama.
23:53
How many times has that happened recently?
23:54
But neither of those teams are at 10 1/2.
23:56
But you do have, let's see here, Texas.
24:00
Texas. Texas isn't 10.
24:01
And a half 9 1/2 for the Longhorns.
24:05
A&M 7 1/2 S Carolina, who people like put 7 1/2 for them.
24:09
The Sooners are 6 and. 1/2 there.
24:11
There won't be a 10 1/2 in that conference.
24:12
No, there's not. Where's LSU?
24:14
8 1/2 LSU is. 8 1/2. OK, go to the ACC real quick and
24:19
then we'll get Bill Seals in here 'cause I, I, I have to
24:21
believe Clemson, they have to be 10 1/2. 9 1/2 Wow, now the over
24:26
is juiced at -188 so you're laying a price there, but you.
24:30
Almost have to go to 10 1/2 at this point.
24:32
They're they would be getting very once it gets to two to one,
24:35
I'd be almost every single time. So you got them.
24:38
Miami is also at 9 1/2. SMU was the girl with the
24:42
curling in that conference last year. 8 1/2 for the Mustangs
24:45
this season. Louisville.
24:47
I like them. 8 1/2 though. See, I look at that surprises
24:50
me. I thought there would be more 10
24:51
and a halfs out there in their respective conferences just.
24:54
Got to be in the Big 10. Got to be in the Big 10 and
24:56
you'll find them there. 8 1/2 is the highest win total in the in
25:00
the in the Big 12. A lot of close football games, a
25:04
lot of team, a lot of at any given Saturday, right?
25:07
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25:54
Let's talk to Bill Seals. He covers Iowa State for
25:57
cyclonereport.com. I guess we can stay for a couple
26:00
more days. Part of the Rivals network or
26:01
can we? Bill Seals, are you officially
26:03
moved over to On Three Media yet?
26:06
Well, it's going to be July 1st guys.
26:08
And that's also thanks for having me.
26:09
Appreciate that. So yeah, the the full roll out
26:12
will be on July 1st and just now this week kind of getting into
26:17
some of the steps involved with that.
26:19
So exciting time and lots to look forward to.
26:24
Yeah, no doubt about it. Then on three does not have an
26:26
Iowa State site. So that will be you and you'll
26:29
fill that role and do so in professional manners.
26:32
You always do Bill and I think that the view are the readers
26:36
rather will benefit from that as I am a non 3 subscriber.
26:39
So that means I'll get to read your stuff, right?
26:42
Outstanding. Yeah, it'll be, it'll be great.
26:44
You, you ought to get on the forum a little bit and, and
26:47
start, you know, conversing with some of these Cyclone fans.
26:50
You never know, you never know Bill.
26:53
So let's obviously want to recap TJS first immediate availability
26:57
from earlier in the week that was Tuesday.
26:59
I guess where I want to start with you is, is the uncertainty
27:02
of maybe that's over the top because I think Pluto is going
27:05
to get here just just timeline just not sure right.
27:09
I guess he's done all of the paperwork now it's just waiting
27:12
to make it through the process, which may take a little bit
27:16
longer now, who knows, but and any clarity on when plea may get
27:21
here and once he does, does he hit the ground running right
27:24
away, Bill? Yeah, I think he does.
27:26
They it it talking to TJ the other day, I did ask him about
27:30
Pleta and it sounds like it's imminent here.
27:32
It at any time It's it's been approved.
27:35
There's no there are no issues there.
27:37
He's just waiting on the the go ahead to go pick it up.
27:40
And then I think he'll have his bag packed and ready to go and
27:44
they're going to need to get him up to speed.
27:46
I think he's going to be an important part of it, this team
27:50
with with what his skill set is. He's going to be Joshua
27:54
Jefferson, obviously a very skilled forward.
27:58
I think Pleida also lots of lots of skill to his game as well as
28:04
we we've seen that in the German game.
28:06
So yeah, I think it's kind of a similar deal maybe to what
28:11
Hassan Ward dealt with. If you'll, if you'll remember
28:13
when they signed him, it was a visa issue as well.
28:17
And and he was kind of a few weeks late getting to summer
28:21
workouts. Now.
28:21
I, I hope that the ramp process isn't what it was with the song
28:26
because basically it seemed like he was a couple months then
28:30
before he really got rolling. And I I think with plea that
28:33
they they need him to play some minutes this year as a first
28:37
year player. I know you may not know the
28:39
answer. I'll ask it with the house
28:41
settlement. I guess one of the one of the
28:44
issues that was lingering out there was the fact that foreign
28:47
born players, they apparently weren't able to share in that
28:50
house settlement. They weren't allowed to make any
28:52
money and that they were going to go back and try and, you
28:55
know, tweak that and and do the right thing.
28:57
Do you know if that was, if that's been done, Bill, not an
29:01
Iowa State thing. This was a this is a, you know,
29:04
a college basketball thing or sports wide.
29:07
Not that I'm I'm aware of I and I don't think it's really
29:10
affecting Pletus status with Iowa State.
29:13
So I think it's just something that'll that'll need to get it
29:16
it's way worked out. But I, I would imagine that they
29:19
will and in due time with with everything else that they're
29:23
working through all the the wrinkles with that.
29:25
So I would imagine at some point, but as far as him to Iowa
29:29
State, I don't think that's really playing a role right now
29:32
and in not being a part of that. Can you walk us through the
29:36
timeline as you I know it. So Mason Williams injury, they
29:39
knew there was some kind of injury.
29:41
Was he on campus? Had he had been medically,
29:43
medically checked out? Because then he'd go to the
29:45
Dominic Nelson, which it it seemed like for 2-3 weeks, I
29:48
would say it was kind of out on and then all of a sudden they
29:50
came back in. So was it as simple as, hey,
29:52
this Mason Williams injury is a lot more serious.
29:55
We got to find some more money to go out and get somebody else
29:57
and we kind of reinvigorate with Nelson.
29:59
Do do I have it kind of right? Help us out with the timeline of
30:01
all that. I think you're probably right.
30:04
That was another another one of the first things asked to TJ on
30:08
on Tuesday is is about how that whole thing played out.
30:11
I think that the staff had an idea that there was some sort of
30:16
pre-existing injury with him. I think until he got to Ames
30:21
full time that even over his visit, I don't think they really
30:26
did a like a physical or any like extensive health check up
30:30
then. So think when they got him here
30:32
full time, had the the medical staff take a look and, and
30:36
determine that the severity of that, that they, I don't think
30:41
they realized just kind of what they were looking at.
30:43
So I think all along Dominic Nelson, if the numbers worked
30:47
out, they would they wanted to have him a part of this class.
30:50
It seemed like things that hit hot and heavy, I guess if you
30:55
want to call it with Nelson when he was first rumored to be
30:59
coming on a visit that that then was canceled.
31:01
They moved it back a couple weeks and then things ramped up
31:05
from there with Nelson. And we've seen that they've done
31:08
a great job with those last entries from the portal.
31:12
Like Curtis Jones was another one.
31:13
They kind of waffled around with a little bit coming out of
31:16
Buffalo and we've seen how that worked out.
31:19
And and I think another positive with Nelson is he got here a few
31:23
weeks early as well and kind of started that ramp up process and
31:27
tweaking a shot. And I think you'll see a much
31:29
better outside shooter than than what he's shown so far.
31:33
I thought it had to do with Joshua Jefferson because when it
31:37
seemed like they couldn't afford him, Nelson was on the radar.
31:41
And when Jefferson decided to forgo, was it LSU that was going
31:44
to throw the money at him, then it seemed like they couldn't
31:47
afford Nelson and maybe he came back at a lesser rate.
31:50
But I think I thought the Jefferson and Nelson kind of
31:54
comings and goings were related. Bill, do you recall that?
31:58
Not that I not that I recall. I think that mainly it was
32:02
Nelson kind of being intertwined with Williams.
32:05
You know, they were also involved with another guard as
32:08
well that Andrew Roadie ended up at Wisconsin.
32:12
I thought Iowa State, a lot of people thought that he'd Iowa
32:16
State was a foregone conclusion until the Badgers kind of
32:20
stepped up their pursuit. So I think that probably Roadie
32:24
cost a little bit more money maybe than than the Nelson.
32:29
So that, yeah, just that work, that working the numbers around.
32:32
But yeah, I do think they probably had to open up the
32:35
checkbook a little bit more with Jefferson.
32:37
And then there's probably also a trickle down effect too.
32:40
They can't go out and and pay Jefferson X amount more dollars
32:44
without maybe giving Milan and and payment a raise.
32:48
Otherwise, that creates a whole other set of problems.
32:51
So question for you and and this could just be reading through a
32:55
transcript. Wild speculation, but he brought
32:57
up to Miriam Bateman and when you bring up a freshman, my ears
33:01
perk up a little bit. They need shooting on this team
33:03
and certainly now if we see the highest that we saw the last 10
33:06
games, that's one thing. But if we saw the ones that we
33:08
saw for the 1st 25, they need more shooting on the floor.
33:11
Is Bateman that guy? Is he the odds on favorite of
33:14
the young guard swing guys that's going to be getting
33:17
playing time in your mind? No doubt and and he's been one
33:20
that I've I've heard from the very start of summer workouts
33:25
that he's looked at outstanding. So that carried over into T JS
33:30
comments to us on on Tuesday. I think he's been as far as
33:35
probably all around game. I think he's been maybe the most
33:39
impressive in in that I think he's able to probably play
33:44
enough defense to get himself on the floor.
33:47
He's showing more of an all round game.
33:49
I think Killian Torre defensively, it's hard to argue
33:53
what he brings, but they're going to want to see maybe a
33:56
little more often out of him. So I think Bateman probably a
34:00
little closer to that all around type of player as a freshman
34:05
than Torre is, But I think they still really like both.
34:08
But yeah, I agree, Trent, even even with what we saw the last
34:12
10 games of of Isy's season, they're still going to need
34:16
someone like Bateman to step been.
34:19
And you know, after kind of the way the way things shook out and
34:24
then losing Jones's shooting touch, yeah, they, they, they're
34:28
going to need a lot more than just Heisey's contributions.
34:31
And I think Bateman's that guy. Yeah, Is Heisman maybe Heisey or
34:36
'cause I'm sure they both do, 'cause Montjolovic's got to have
34:39
expectations that you need both of them to take one more step,
34:43
right? As Trent said, you need Heisey
34:45
to be the tight, the Heisey of the final ten games of the year
34:48
and Monchilovich just more consistency perhaps on a because
34:52
we know he's got that game, we've seen it, but we don't, we
34:55
don't see it consistently enough from where I sit.
34:58
Yeah, I think consistency is the name of the game there, Kenny.
35:02
One one thing is that, I mean, TJ really heaped a lot of praise
35:07
or like heavy expectations on Milan on Tuesday.
35:12
He said that he's a guy he expects to average instead of
35:15
two threes a game to hit 3 threes a game this year and do
35:20
it at over a 40% clip. So I think T JS expecting a big
35:24
jump out of Milan and and yeah, they they'll, they'll probably
35:28
get that, but hopefully with fewer peaks and valleys because
35:33
we've when Milan's been at his best, he's led the Cyclones to
35:37
some huge wins. He's put the the offense on his
35:40
back, but there have also been some dips there too where they
35:44
really had to account for some cold shooting there and get it
35:48
from other areas. But the way this team is
35:51
structured, they they need him to be a big time contributor and
35:55
outside shooter. Over to some football recruiting
35:58
wrapping up as a dead period is upon us with it.
36:01
Of course, the big news for of this last month was what we saw
36:05
from the decommitment of Jet Tamala.
36:07
What can you tell us at the quarterback spot?
36:09
Easton Webb was the name that we've talked about with you
36:11
before, Bill, his timeline and the quarterback position as a
36:15
whole recruiting for 2026. Yeah, I had, I had originally
36:19
thought that maybe they could move pretty quickly on Easton
36:22
web and and maybe get a commitment out of him within
36:26
maybe a week or so after offering.
36:28
I think we're we're still, I believe still inside that weak
36:31
window from when they had offered him I think right at a
36:34
week because it was Iowa State and Georgia Tech with him.
36:38
It's still Iowa State and Georgia Tech, but he's in he's
36:41
an Oklahoma kid. His dad played at Oklahoma
36:44
State. I I would think that playing in
36:46
that Big 12 print would probably put ISU in front for him right
36:51
now. But now I'm kind of getting the
36:52
sense he wants to play the process out a little bit.
36:56
And I think this thing is going to carry into July and and maybe
36:59
August, I get the the idea maybe some more powerful offers might
37:05
be headed his way now the the words out to college coaches
37:10
that he's interested in focusing on football at the next level.
37:14
So I think it's it's just going to be a thing here where they
37:18
and really they're, they're still pretty early in their
37:20
recruitment of him as well. So maybe looking just to build
37:23
that relationship out with him a little bit.
37:26
They've got some other guys that they're they're taking a look at
37:30
right now. No offers to any of those right
37:32
now. I think Easton Web still though
37:34
the priority, but it's going to take some time.
37:36
Bill Seals cyclonereport.com Bill, thanks.
37:39
When's your next basketball media availability?
37:42
Is it on the schedule yet? It's not on the schedule yet,
37:46
but I would anticipate maybe, maybe next week they're going to
37:50
get one more in the following week will be Big 12 football
37:55
media day week, so probably want to, they'll probably want to
37:58
squeeze in one more football before taking that week off.
38:01
So should be more good stuff though.
38:05
The Dominic Nelson interview though, that was a great one.
38:08
I'm going to have a feature up on him here in the next couple
38:10
days. But yeah, that was a great
38:12
interview with him. So lots of good stuff and we'll
38:16
get some more input probably out of more of those players.
38:19
We just talked about Milan, so probably get him as well at some
38:23
point. Good stuff, Bill Seals.
38:24
We'll talk to you next week. Thanks for doing this, Bill.
38:26
Appreciate it. Thanks guys.
38:28
Have a good one. Yeah, you do the same, Bill
38:29
Seals, cyclereport.com as we check in on Iowa State.
38:33
Take your time out, come back, finish up our number one.
38:36
It's Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
38:39
Hi, Mallory Condon, welcome back.
38:41
Final couple of minutes. First hour of the program.
38:43
I love when sports leagues listen to their fanbase.
38:47
The NHL is going to expand their regular season.
38:51
What? Can you believe it?
38:53
What are we doing? This is 84 games now, 84
38:57
expanding from 82. Who asked for that?
39:00
Nobody. All right.
39:01
And I love. Hockey.
39:01
I know you too. I thought we were going the
39:05
other way. Well, I thought so too.
39:06
I mean, I don't want the I, I think I'm the one that likes
39:10
June hockey. You know, the people that cover
39:12
the sport wanted to be done around Immemorial Day.
39:15
Get it done at no, no, no, keep it going.
39:17
But good God, what's next? That is the longest season,
39:21
right? From on the calendar, it starts
39:24
preseason starts in like the 21st of September.
39:27
That's stupid. And they crowned the champ in
39:29
June. Right there is.
39:31
No dime time in that. Last last week of June, the
39:34
champion had their parade. Are they good God?
39:38
So is it, hey, we're going to play in other places.
39:41
There's going to be some special events.
39:42
I just don't. Know that part.
39:44
I know they're going to take away a couple of preseason
39:46
games. OK.
39:47
Get it? Yeah, but still, 84 regular
39:50
season games. Gotta get that cash, I guess.
39:54
Hour 2 is coming up next. We're going to take a good look
39:56
at the Big 10. We're going to do more of this
39:58
in the weeks ahead. Not just the Big 10, the Big 12
40:00
as well. From other voices.
40:02
We'll hear how the some people in the other parts of the
40:04
country, well within the footprint of those respective
40:07
conferences, how they see it. We'll start with the guy that is
40:11
locked on Oregon, locked on college football.
40:14
Spencer McLaughlin will join us to kick off hour number two.
40:18
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