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Fields of Deceit and Cons w/ Andy Richter · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: Scaled, Come.
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  Speaker 2: Rob frll scam, Come rob froll scam goddess.
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  Speaker 3: What's popping, Congregation, it's your girl, Lacey Mosley aka scam Goddess,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm back with another installment of the podcast all
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  Speaker 3: about robbery, fraud and those who practice it. Remember, y'all,
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  Speaker 3: this is still a comedy show, but the facts are real.
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  Speaker 3: We don't want to get sued now. Y'all already knows
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  Speaker 3: it's honestly like, is it repetitive?
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  Speaker 1: Now it's been six years. It's been six years, but
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  Speaker 1: you already know. I'm very yes, excited, thrilled, elated.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, over the moon, Congregation, get ready because today we have.
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  Speaker 1: An icon on the show.
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  Speaker 3: He's an actor, voice actor, oh, a voice actor, writer,
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  Speaker 3: game show host, and podcast.
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  Speaker 1: He has been in over one thousand episodes of Conan.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty one hundred and forty one episodes to be precise.
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  Speaker 3: You might have heard him in American Dad, Big City, Greens, Madagascar,
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  Speaker 3: and so much more. Congregation, please get up out of
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  Speaker 3: your seats, Okay, get your.
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  Speaker 1: Fans up with the Martin Luther King on one side,
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  Speaker 1: in the funeral home on the other, stand up, wave
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  Speaker 1: them in the air and welcome back legend Andy Richter
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  Speaker 1: to the show.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, Lacy, that's so nice.
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  Speaker 1: It's so true.
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  Speaker 4: It's very nice. You know. It's like, you know, when
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  Speaker 4: I'm when I'm picking up dog shit, I don't feel
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  Speaker 4: like an icon. Yeah, so it's nice to hear, but
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  Speaker 4: it does feel like that doesn't really feel you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Look at your dog? Is keeping you humble? Yes, well
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  Speaker 1: of them, there's two of them, but you all go
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  Speaker 1: pick up our poops, mister starmin.
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  Speaker 4: That's right exactly.
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  Speaker 1: You ain't at the set right now. You ain't at
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  Speaker 1: the studio right now.
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  Speaker 4: No nobody cares you with the.
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  Speaker 1: Dog heart, I love them. Like now, you, Bobby, what
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  Speaker 1: kind of dogs you have?
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  Speaker 4: I have two? I have a one. I have a
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  Speaker 4: very comically different ones, one hundred and twenty five pounds.
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  Speaker 4: She's like great Pyrenees, Border Collie and German Shepherd. She's
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  Speaker 4: a big, hairy guard dog. And then we have a
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  Speaker 4: seven pound poodle mix who's hilarious and.
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  Speaker 1: Really get a log together.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, they love each other. They love each other and
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  Speaker 4: like they're yeah, they're great. And the little one is
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  Speaker 4: just so she's just joy, you know, she's just joy
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  Speaker 4: and a dog and I and we fostered a few dogs,
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  Speaker 4: some just to foster some as kind of like a
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  Speaker 4: test run, which I highly recommend. Well, first of all,
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  Speaker 4: don't buy a dog. Rescue a dog. There's too many
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  Speaker 4: dogs in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in California, you can only you're only supposed to
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  Speaker 1: I think, rescue dogs, right.
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  Speaker 4: I don't. Well, I think you can buy one.
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  Speaker 1: For you from a different stage.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well no, but I think there's people here that
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  Speaker 4: breed dogs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 4: I think dogt stores it's just pet stores. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you can't buy dogs in stores anymore because that's where
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  Speaker 4: the pet the puppy mills were.
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  Speaker 1: Oh they were to the.
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  Speaker 4: Dogs, yeah, which you know, it's like it used to
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  Speaker 4: be fun to go to the Beverly Center and see
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  Speaker 4: the puppies in the pet store. But that's like I
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  Speaker 4: can't do that anymore.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I go to large mot and I feel like they're
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  Speaker 3: trying to scam me with those dogs, because like I'll
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  Speaker 3: walk by and they'll like have a couple of them
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  Speaker 3: out on a leash, and I know they know to run.
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  Speaker 1: Up to you.
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  Speaker 4: Oh you mean like the rescue Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they looking all cute and undamaged. Yes, they're like they're.
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  Speaker 4: Going under and charm training before they take them out
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  Speaker 4: on the large mind.
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  Speaker 3: And I learned from my friend who does a lot
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  Speaker 3: of animal rescue, that a lot of shelters will actually
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  Speaker 3: take like two years off the dog's actual age because
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  Speaker 3: nobody wants like an old dog, so they'll like youthen
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  Speaker 3: up the.
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  Speaker 1: Dog a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: really that's why.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not happening everywhere, but I know it's happening
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  Speaker 3: someplaces for sure.
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  Speaker 4: It's strange too, because there are people who want to
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  Speaker 4: have seen your dogs like there. I'm known so many
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  Speaker 4: people that are. They'll just go get like a seven
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  Speaker 4: year old dog and you know, keep it, keep it
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  Speaker 4: until it dies, and then go get another seven year
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  Speaker 4: old dog.
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  Speaker 1: In LA, there's a big commodity for young hot dogs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's right, because you never know if
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  Speaker 4: one of them might turn into an influencer.
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  Speaker 1: Oh listen, okay, people are making a lot of money
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  Speaker 1: off their dogs. I can't believe it. If you don't
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  Speaker 1: have an Instagram for your dog yet, your dog needs
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  Speaker 1: to start earn a keep. It can't just free food.
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  Speaker 4: It would be too humiliating, like I'm not making enough
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  Speaker 4: money with showbiz that if my dog started to make
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  Speaker 4: more than me.
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  Speaker 1: You'd be jealous. It would be her.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't take it, you know, and then she'd probably
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  Speaker 4: get emancipated and you know, and I wouldn't see dime one.
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  Speaker 1: You come home and her DOGU bit is by the
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  Speaker 1: door with all her toys.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry but yeah yeah, and then like Keanu Reeves picks
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  Speaker 4: her up on a motorcycle.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a motorcyclist. Yea, yeah, she's a dog. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh but then you got to give your doctor to
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Reeves, so he's great. Yeah that okay, it comes
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  Speaker 1: to your door and.
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  Speaker 4: I should have picked somebody else, like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we don't want him having your dog. But
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  Speaker 3: mister john Wick, yeah you gotta give up. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: hold on, let me get her collar and things. She
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  Speaker 3: loves wet food. Can I visit her.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have to worry about you avenging her, because
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  Speaker 4: that's what you do, John Wick.
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  Speaker 1: Andy, are you going to adventure?
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  Speaker 4: No? I mean maybe if he kills her, I guess
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  Speaker 4: that's sort of.
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  Speaker 3: Kunta would never wow. I hope your dog doesn't hear
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  Speaker 3: this podcast. But I also do stream this for your
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  Speaker 3: dogs in the other room. Y'all really want those streams,
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  Speaker 3: but we do already. We kind of got into a
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  Speaker 3: scammy conversation talking about pet adoption a little bit. But
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  Speaker 3: what is your relationship with scams right now? Have you
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  Speaker 3: been scammed recently? Any scams have been run? Are there
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  Speaker 3: any scams that are just like really catching your eye
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  Speaker 3: and the zeitgey's it could literally be anything.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know why it is, and I'm not
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  Speaker 4: and I'm not the only one, but somebody in the
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  Speaker 4: Philippines really wants to rip me off through my easy Pass. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: you know the.
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  Speaker 1: Thing in those texts, you didn't pay a toll and
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  Speaker 1: all you.
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  Speaker 4: Gotta do is like look up the country code. It's
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  Speaker 4: like the Philippines. I's say, I don't think we've.
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  Speaker 1: Outsourced easy Pass to the Philippines.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't know they text your right to get in
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  Speaker 3: touch with that big warehouse of people just on smart Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if I told you this before, but
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  Speaker 4: there was a I did almost get and I'm embarrassed
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  Speaker 4: by it.
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  Speaker 1: Don't be embarrassed as shame for.
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  Speaker 4: You, I know, but but you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, have you ever like gotten too far into
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  Speaker 4: and you're like, wait a minute, I'm being scammed and
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  Speaker 4: why the fuck did I not know that before?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 4: Has that ever happened to you?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, in specific ways, but it was kind
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  Speaker 3: of like a different person was scamming me with a service,
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  Speaker 3: so like headshots or something like that. Yeah, But like
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to like a scam, I can usually
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  Speaker 3: sense it out pretty early. My issue is that I
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  Speaker 3: want to take it too far. But that's not to
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  Speaker 3: say that I haven't seen some wild scams. Are gotten
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  Speaker 3: pretty close to falling for something, but the clickable internet links. Honestly,
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting a little fatigued with scamming right now, which
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  Speaker 3: is crazy because I'm scam goddess. But I'm glad I
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  Speaker 3: can tell you this andy that I am getting at
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  Speaker 3: least ten phone calls a day from scammers. I'm getting voicemails,
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting text messages, I'm getting emails flooded and like
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  Speaker 3: my professional email, which I don't even put out publicly,
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  Speaker 3: and it is getting to the point where I just
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  Speaker 3: like they come at five am. That's when they start,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm so pissed off. I've blocked so many numbers,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm just like, all right, scammers, leave me to
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  Speaker 3: fuck alone. Like at this point, we gotta fight, like
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  Speaker 3: me me in the parking lot, like if you want
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  Speaker 3: this money, I'm goa pop this trunk and get my
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  Speaker 3: bat out and let's see who wins. Like it's wild.
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  Speaker 3: But so you're getting the Manila situation. They're texting you
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  Speaker 3: telling you about the Yeah, well no, there was there
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  Speaker 3: was one thing something else, right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was one point a few years ago. It
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  Speaker 4: was actually it was during COVID because I was home
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  Speaker 4: and I think they woke me up with a phone
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  Speaker 4: call and it was something I don't remember. It had
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  Speaker 4: a legit tie into like something that I was buying
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  Speaker 4: or something, you know they always had. There's like that
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  Speaker 4: little thing and this guy's talking to me and he's
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  Speaker 4: like telling me they're gonna give me a refund for something.
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  Speaker 4: And he's and he asked, like, you know, go to
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  Speaker 4: log into this thing so that I can see your
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  Speaker 4: hard drive to see where it is. And I was
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  Speaker 4: like okay, and then looking and like two seconds after
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  Speaker 4: I figured out and I was like, what the fuck?
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  Speaker 4: What are you a grandpa? Like what is going on?
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  Speaker 4: But I did, and he was looking at my computer
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  Speaker 4: and he's like, okay, now we need to have well
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  Speaker 4: they did something. They were like, oh no, we were
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  Speaker 4: going to refund you two hundred and forty dollars, but
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  Speaker 4: we put two zeros on, so it's twenty four thousand
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  Speaker 4: dollars or something like that, right, And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: uh what. And then they're like, we need to get
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  Speaker 4: into you know, we need you to access your bank,
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  Speaker 4: so so it's.
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  Speaker 5: Like twenty three and I and by that point I
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  Speaker 5: just was like all it took was I said, you
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  Speaker 5: know what, I'm gonna need a number to call you back,
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  Speaker 5: and I said, because I have to call some people first,
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  Speaker 5: and he just went click and was done.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's interesting is is that they were calling
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  Speaker 3: you after a person like a purchase you had made recently,
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  Speaker 3: which kind of like legitimized it a little bit more,
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  Speaker 3: which is why I understand why you would go forward
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  Speaker 3: like why I did just buy this and like okay,
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  Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. And they're on the
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  Speaker 3: phone with you, so there's a bigger sense of urgency,
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  Speaker 3: like like when you read something, that's why the scammers
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  Speaker 3: will send me the emails can't ever really get me
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  Speaker 3: because like I can check for a grammar, I can
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  Speaker 3: check the email address, you know what I mean, Like Amazon.
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  Speaker 3: I never hit me up with Amazon with a zero
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  Speaker 3: in the oh. Yeah, hot mail is not where the
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  Speaker 3: irs will contact you.
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  Speaker 4: Like.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like when you're reading those you can find
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  Speaker 3: a lot of spot When people call you, it's a
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  Speaker 3: little differ. Tran's little large, right.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't ever answer the phone unless I know
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  Speaker 4: who it is. I just don't ever answer the phone.
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  Speaker 3: You work so much on sets and stuff like do
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  Speaker 3: you have like a burner number for production people or no?
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  Speaker 1: Well, then like you do have to answer some numbers
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  Speaker 1: you don't know sometimes, right, M Yeah, But.
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  Speaker 4: I mean if if that does happen, somebody will leave
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  Speaker 4: a message and I'll check, you know, I'll try smart
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  Speaker 4: if there if I think there's something, you know, like
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  Speaker 4: in the air like that I might be getting a
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  Speaker 4: call about something, they might leave a message and then
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  Speaker 4: I can, you know, immediately call them back.
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  Speaker 1: That's smart.
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  Speaker 3: I think we all got to just start sending things
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  Speaker 3: to voicemail and then hoping that other person texts and
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  Speaker 3: then we'll be like, oh, okay, it's you.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't know the number.
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  Speaker 3: Cause it's getting it's so predatory now and it's such
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  Speaker 3: an onslaught that I can't imagine what it feels like
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  Speaker 3: to be someone else. Like just like a person who
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  Speaker 3: doesn't like think about scams and stuff like that, like
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  Speaker 3: you're you could get got so easily. And also this
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  Speaker 3: one was one of those give a little to get
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  Speaker 3: a lot, like oh, we gave you too much money,
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  Speaker 3: we need you to send some back. And also like
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  Speaker 3: I have never seen a company want to give you
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  Speaker 3: your money back. So anytime a company connects with me
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, oh we have a refund for you
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  Speaker 3: or oh you got.
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  Speaker 1: Overcharged, I'm like, this isn't real.
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  Speaker 3: Corporations will keep all my money and even if I
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  Speaker 3: make an accidental purchase, they will keep it. And oh
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  Speaker 3: you noticed that your money. Oh that's crazy. So you
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  Speaker 3: want it back?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna take six to eight business months. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I've paid you this month. I paid you
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  Speaker 1: in thirty seconds.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to be the processing the ship, in
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  Speaker 3: the handling, the handling of the shipping.
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  Speaker 4: You get it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. A friend of mine, this is this is this
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  Speaker 4: one is so so evil. Friend, of mine who's like
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  Speaker 4: a struggling actor. You know, it's been an actor's whole life,
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  Speaker 4: but it's you know, it's it's a struggler.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: And so he was behind on his utility bill and
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  Speaker 4: you know, he's like going to pay the bill. But
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  Speaker 4: he gets a call one morning and it's DM whatever
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  Speaker 4: you go DWP and they're like, you have to pay
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  Speaker 4: this now. It's gone too far. You need to come
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  Speaker 4: and you need to give us at you know, at
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  Speaker 4: least half of it or something, or pay the full amount.
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  Speaker 1: Since when the DF you talked about put some on it.
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  Speaker 4: They were like, they like, you have to do this
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  Speaker 4: now because we're you know, you have to come down
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  Speaker 4: to this office. He's scared and he's in. First of all,
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  Speaker 4: he's embarrassed that he's that far. You know, it's like
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  Speaker 4: you feel like shit when you when you're behind on
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  Speaker 4: your bills. They give him a number address. He goes down.
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  Speaker 4: It has signage. It's like and there's like a day,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he said, it seems seems kind of like
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  Speaker 4: it's they just moved in, but it's still they have signage,
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  Speaker 4: they have a receptionist, they have all this stuff. He
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  Speaker 4: goes in get and it has given gives them a
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  Speaker 4: cashier's check for I don't know, like fifteen hundred bucks.
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  Speaker 4: Finds out that it's completely a scam. Oh no. And
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  Speaker 4: the part that's really because he went to the police
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  Speaker 4: about it, okay, and the police are like, yeah, this
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  Speaker 4: has been half And he says they told him like
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  Speaker 4: that place, that they'll be gone from there tomorrow, like
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  Speaker 4: they're in a different place, but they actually have you
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  Speaker 4: come down and physically give them a cashier's check. And
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  Speaker 4: it's all people who are worried about losing their fucking electricity.
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  Speaker 1: And you're preying on the like most vulnerable, and it's.
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  Speaker 4: Got to be somebody at the power company going here's
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  Speaker 4: a list of people are getting the pink bills, you know,
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  Speaker 4: And and it's just I just think, like god damn.
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  Speaker 3: And the police are just like, oh, yeah, this has
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  Speaker 3: been happening, police sirs.
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  Speaker 1: This is actually what we give you tax money.
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  Speaker 3: Anytime the black people want to congregate for a peaceful rally,
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  Speaker 3: all out here beating us with sticks and ship But
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  Speaker 3: then as soon as we like, can you do some
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  Speaker 3: police work? Oh yeah, we heard about that. Let us
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  Speaker 3: know if you get.
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  Speaker 4: Any black people are easy to find. They're right there.
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  Speaker 1: They're right there.
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  Speaker 4: Not so easy. Good luck finding that person at the
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  Speaker 4: power company that's giving away people's names.
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  Speaker 3: God forbid, you're just I'm real police. But it was like,
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  Speaker 3: the black people are right outside.
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  Speaker 4: I the windows, but the scammer.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who that is.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's a lot more hours.
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  Speaker 3: You want us to do stuff for the society. No,
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  Speaker 3: we're here to beat the society. Ass I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: thank you so much, scarce.
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  Speaker 2: God.
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  Speaker 4: It's also really smart too that they're getting a cashier's check,
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  Speaker 4: because you can't stop that.
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  Speaker 1: You can't stop a cash.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's done and uh and that's.
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  Speaker 1: Why if you lose one, it's really bad.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, you can only put it back in
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  Speaker 3: your bank if you have the cashiers check, because if.
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  Speaker 4: You could, like if you paid your utilities with a
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  Speaker 4: credit card, then you could, you know, if you could
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  Speaker 4: scam from that, you can know. She get the miles.
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  Speaker 4: I try and pay as much stuff as I can
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  Speaker 4: with credit cards just to get miles. And yeah, it's
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: like it's it's like the one sort of silver lining
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: in the cloud of paying too much for everything. Everything.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: No, you know, what I've also hated is like return
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: policies now, Like they'll give you a return policy at
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: a store and it'll be like, Okay, bring it back
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: in eleven days or you can't return it. It's like,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: what is eleven days? Like they get very close to
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: two weeks, just close enough.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: That you forget.
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder what that is.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve day return policies. I've seen that a lot
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: eight day.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: Return There must be some sort of like it's like a.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Mental gymnastics of if you hear something that sounds close
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: to a week or close to two weeks, But that's
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: what it is. Yeah, I think people forget.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: I was wondering if it's like based somehow on how
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: long it takes credit cards to post or something you know.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know, No, I think I don't know.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you get a free trial on something on
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: any app or or buy something that you know you
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: know you might not use, definitely like ask for the
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: return policy and put the date like the day before
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: or two days before in your calendar. Is an alarm
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: so that you can cancel that service or return that
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: item beforehand.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: I just I just did. I was in New York City.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: For about twelve days working on something a guest spot
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: on a show. Had a number of days off sort
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: of sprinkled throughout, and I was using the city bikes
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: and I found like, you joined the City Bike Club
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: or whatever, and then you don't go. There's like this
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: four dollars charge every time you get a city bike
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: out and if you join, and it had a free
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: fifteen day wait period. So like, all right, sure, I'll
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: sign up for City Bike and then on the drive
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: to the airport, on my way home, I canceled it.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: And I felt very clever, Yeah, because I saved you know,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: it's probably by the time because I used to City City.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: Do you ever use those city bikes in New York City?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, so the last one I kind of stole by accident.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it happened.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: I mean I felt bad though, because I didn't know
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: the person who left the bike would get charged for
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: the bike. But it was pride and I just saw
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: a bike, and you know, it was time for me
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: to be gay and.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Do things like b gay do crime.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's when I learned that you can't For
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: the listeners out there, I don't have any duys, but
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: just know you can't get a dui on a bike.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I did not know that it has wheels, y'alls.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: If you at a festival, don't try that. Don't try that. Okay,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: we walk next to it, put it down.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: That's on the person too. That just like left the
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: city bike sitting somewhere. You gotta expect it.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: But for all I know, maybe they went to the bathroom.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: But maybe they're trying to find a bathroom, or maybe
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: they're talking to their friends.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not bad.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I didn't even know that. Like the city bike, if
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I didn't know about that, yeah, but I've city biked before.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: It feels very dangerous to me.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: And I just really liked it, and especially because in
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: New York now they have the e bikes, which is like.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, at this point, it's given cars, like yeah,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: the road.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Like it's a little motorcycle.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: It's easier, you know.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: I was. They put me up in Brooklyn and and
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: just to get around Brooklyn, you know, instead of like
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: calling for a lift that would cost thirty dollars to
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: go from Greenpoint to Williamsburg to watch a movie. It's like,
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: get on an e bike. And we you know, and
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: just ride down the waterfront down. You know, it was
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: really and it was summertime and it was you know, sundown.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: A couple of times it was really nice. I really
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: liked them.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I would do it if I had better balance. I
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: feel like you have good balance, then could you like
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: e bikes and city bikes and stuff. I feel like
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna take one wrong lean and then I'm
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: a skid mark, right.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: You know, it is nerve wracking. You do have to
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: like get over the hump of oh shit. Cars were
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: everywhere and they're going everywhere, and this bike lane seems
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: to be more of a suggestion than an actual lane
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: that's being respected by anybody but me. So okay. You know,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: I hate that.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: They had a subscription service for it.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Though if I was riding every day and I lived
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: in New York, maybe, but like, I'm starting to really hate.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Subscription services for things I shouldn't be subscriptions. I hate
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: clothing subscription services. I can't even say it, Like, why
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: am I close many? Many?
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I won't list them, but many, and it annoys me.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: They're like, oh, they send you closed without Well.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: You asked in the store, and I went into an
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: athletic store if you know, you know, and they had
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: like a steep, steep discount. So I was like, I'm
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: just gonna get a bunch of athletic clothes right now
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: and then cut off the service when I get home.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: But they make it really difficult to do. You have
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: to go on their website, no, write the right pen,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: a handwritten letter, like, send pictures of an obituary, like
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: gotta do all this stuff to get out of here.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and some clothing brands have been sued for this.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: But yeah, they were like, oh, this top and bottom
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: is one hundred dollars if you don't if you're not
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: a member, but if you're a member, it's half off
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: and it's only fifty or like even lower than that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: They'd be like two for twenty. But if you're not
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: a member, two for eighty. Yeah.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So it's it's a nice little scam. But
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, we don't need to subscribe to close.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Wow, And it's a fee that you have to pay
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: every month. Yeah, for the privilege of.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: The privilege of having cheaper clothes because you're not gonna
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: need so many leggings your whole life that this makes sense.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, see, I don't. I don't buy enough clothes anymore.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I forget just figured out what side I'm talking about. No,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: but I'm part of you Just realize you're part of one.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Just I realized that I forgot to skip this month
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and they're gonna Charte.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: No.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Our producer just just realized she's part of none of
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: those clothing those clothing traps, and she forgot to skip
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: the payment.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: I I lately have been having. You know, I know
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: this is a different, a different kind of business, but
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: the membership that we have to the trampoline park in
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Alhambra is impossible to cancel. And they get you too,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: because you go in and it's like the first time
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: you go in, it's like it's thirty five dollars.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Maybe how much jumping were you planning to do?
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: I got a five year old. You go and you,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: you know, tell down, yeah exactly. It's like a hamster
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: wheel for a human, you know. Okay, but the first
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: time you go, it's like it's thirty three dollars to
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: come in, but only thirty five to join, and then
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: you can come back as much as you want, you know,
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: on weekdays, not on weekend stuff. I'm like, okay, all right,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: sure I'll do that. I'll do the thirty five. And
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: and even while I'm doing and I'm thinking, like because
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: they're just counting on people forgetting that they've they all
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: signed up for the trampoline park in Alhambra, and and
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: I have I got to go the fuck down there
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: and say take me off of you, because I've tried.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I've better get Joe jumps in. Better get Jo jumps in.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: The Uh, it's a gang. They got to jump you out.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I don't even if.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: It's not even for me, like I can, it's for
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: my daughter's you know, it's her. It's connected to her.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: So I when I go, I can't even jump. I
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: have to would have to pay money to jump.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: No, that's oh, that's wild. You can't for all the
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: jumps in the house.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: You get a separate wrist band and that you know,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: they're like, yeah, this is that's a non jumping rips
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: wrist band. You know.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: I wonder if we can get your daughter to do
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: something so that y'all are banned. And then they have
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: to cut off the thing, right Like she just brings
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: like a milkshake and like jumps with it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, our smokes. Just get on, get on the drug
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: drill cigarette.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Like you can't, ma'am, you cannot got buried anymore? Like great,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: can you cancel ourr membiship?
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She immediately is like perfect, cancel, Andy Richter.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Other kids are like, I want to smoke too. That
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: looks cool.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: That looks so fun, Mommy, can I have a cigarette?
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Well, let's get into my favorite segment here, Andy, historic hoodwings.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: This is where I will were kale, Andy with a
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: famous con caper group of criminals, will get his.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Opinions all throughout. Andy, this is the only safe space
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: to interrupt a woman. So really cherish it all right,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: it will. So today we're going back a little bit
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: in time. Between nineteen ninety seven and two thousand and three,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: the most successful tomato farmers on the Eastern Seaboards swindled
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the government out of nine million before investors discovered that
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the B in their BLT stood for bullshit, So so
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: tomato farmers cool. In the late nineties, R and V.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Warren Farms was the largest vine ripened tomato grower in
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: the Eastern US, employing about two hundred people. Okay, and
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I wonder what those people look like.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So it's period period.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: They probably look like uh, Mark, Mario and Luigi.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Right, so playing the tomato, I love that we make
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: of the tomato.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: So it was run by.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Robert and Vicky Warren, a middle aged married couple who
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: seemed like typical down home farmers. At one point they
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: owned twenty six farms in three states, including North Carolina,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: South Carolina, and Tennessee. Then in two thousand and three,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: the basement of their modest In the basement of their
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: modest farm house, Department of Agriculture investigators found liquid eraser bottles,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: copy machines, PVC pipes, and tens of thousands of forged documents.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: What is it? All those things liquid eraser and PBC pipes. Yes,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: are they making disappearing bombs?
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: At first I was like it's giving murder a little bit,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: but now it's kind of actually giving Like maybe we're
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: like amy machines, PBC pipes, and but they have forged documents,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: so maybe they're lifting the ink off.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Of yeahs, like liquid paper, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: I hope it doesn't mean liqui paper, because if y'all
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: were lifting it with liquid paper and baby like, how
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: are y'a getting away with this?
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: I love it. It's just it was down home. Yeah,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: it's real down home kind of feel.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: You're right. And copy machines.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: So if it's the nineties and I put a little
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: of that paper white on and then I run in
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: through the copy machine, then we write on top of it,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: there's dried properly the last it all. You know, I
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: get a little thick. I don't know these things, but okay,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I can see what's happening.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So by liquid e racer bottle they mean white out,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: we don't know.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what that that. That seems to
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: be like you know, that's like they're trying to use
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: a non trademark.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's name yeah, because I would think it would
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: be white out.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: It must be yeah, it must be liquid paper or
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: white out, which are the two brand names. And they
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: won't use that, you know.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: No free ads in the press pretty much.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were manipulating paperwork.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then copying it, so you couldn't obviously it's
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: a nineties copyer machine. It's not going to be like
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: ours today, so you probably couldn't tell that it was
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: white it up. Oh, somebody had a very steady hand.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Got to keep that line, Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: You got so.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: For six years, Robert and Vicki had been running a
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: nine million dollar crop insurance scheme, the biggest farm fraud
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: in the history of the US.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: And this is nineties nine million. So that was the
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: nine million was nine million ing? Okay nowadays nine million.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's still a lot of money, but it's
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: not what.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: It was in the nineties.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Nothing million.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: That's my walking around bunny. Now, please you renting when
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: you got nine million.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: That's what my closing subscriptions cost.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Truly likely.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: So in nineteen ninety six, before they embarked on a
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: life of crime, Robert and Vicki lived in a brick
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: ranch style home with a pickup truck in the driveway
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: in western North Carolina. Their buyers knew the Warren farms
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: produced big yields of high quality tomatoes. Everything was going great.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: So they were living legit, they were working legit.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know why it's important for us to know
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: they got a pickup truck in their driveway, but I
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: guess they're folksy.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, I don't know.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So in nineteen ninety seven, they bought crop insurance
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden their tomato harvest started to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: take a hit, or so they said.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: So when they started getting that good insurance, they were like,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: oh no, the past, all of our asides didn't work
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: on the pests.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have list tomatoes. I don't know. A bear
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: came and ain't all our shit aphids.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: It's so many aphists, so many aphids, you wouldn't believe
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: it was a swe Yeah.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: They came up from the border.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: We need to deport the aphe.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: We need to do something.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, rab.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Run.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety seven, Robert planted his farm in Spartanburg,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: South Carolina.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: He told the E. L.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Ross Insurance Company that he planted on April fifteenth, the
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: date allowed under his policy. In reality, he planted between
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: April fourth and April twelfth. Later, he filed acclaim for
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: cold weather damage in April and May and collected one
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty seven, seven hundred and twelve thousand dollars
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: in crop insurance.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: So he planted earlier than what he says.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: So he got the crop popping and then harvested it
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: and was like, oh no, my crops they froze in April.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Cause it's so cold in South Is it cold in South.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Carolina in April in wintertime in the interior and in
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: the April winter, Yeah, yeah, I bet you still get
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: freezes which can kill a tomato plants.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's true.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: So they also reported remarkably minimal yields on several farms.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: So they basically saying, we're not making no money on
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: some of these farms that we got.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: These farms are broke.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: So on the Spartanburg farm, they claimed a harvest of nine,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: eight hundred and sixty two boxes of fresh tomatoes. The
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: actual harvest was seven. The actual harvest was seventy eight
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: thousand and six seventy boxes. Oh my god, they said
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: they did nine they did.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: They basically did almost ten times the amount that they reported.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And they pocketed nearly one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: That's just you're dumb, like you, yeah, pocket twenty five grand.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Don't make it so obvious, you know what I mean?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Or maybe don't file an insurance claim and the rare
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: ear there.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's there's the don't do it, uh
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: school of.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Thought, like you got to do a little insurance frau
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: it as a tree.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, lying by tenfold or eight ninefold, that's crazy.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: No, So for their ten farms in nineteen ninety seven,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: the warrants claimed losses on five. They received six hundred
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: and forty four thousand dollars in crop insurance or premium
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: credits for their scheme. So I know the crop insurance
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: company gotta be tired at this point because.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's got to raise red.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Flags because insurance doesn't want to give your money anyway.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: You can put your whole life and get sick on
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: you know, like in your eighties, and they'll be like, oh.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Actually we're going to cancel your policy.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: It makes me. It makes me curious too, is they're like,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: how does the crop insurance thing work? Like they just
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: take your word for it. I planted about of corn
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: and I don't know something killed it. Give me some money,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Like they're just like, oh, okay, I.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Would imagine there's a claims adjuster because they did lie
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: about when they plot, they you know, dropped the seeds
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: what are farmer words? When they planted, you know, they
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: lied about it. So they must have had the harvest
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: before then claims adjuster came. Yeah, and if they filed
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: on the fifteenth, then they harvest on the twelfth. That
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: gives them plenty of time to, like I guess, for
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: the adjuster to come. So they hadn't actually lost anything, right,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: they were still producing the same tomatoes and selling them
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: out of the back door additional profit on top of
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: the insurance gambit. Right, So they ran the same scheme
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety eight, dramatically lowered overall harvest numbers, fudged
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: figures between fields, and netted one million dollars in insurance money.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Then they decided to go big because one million wasn't
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: big enough. Also, they're selling the surplus of tomatoes that
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: they didn't claim out the back door. What does a
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: backdoor tomato deal look like?
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: And it's at night? I don't know. How would I know?
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I fuck, you've done a backdoor tomato tail once or twice?
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Listen, I have never I would only I only buy
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: tomatoes from registered tomato vendors. Would never buy my tomatoes
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: on the street.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: You don't know. They might have been black market tomatoes
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: that you were getting. Okay, you know, how are we.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Supposed to trace that yeah, there's no way to know, Okay.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, there's some really nice stores out there,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: and I think I'm sure they're getting them nice tomatoes
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: from somewhere. So by nineteen ninety nine, the Warrens had
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: twenty farms, and they claimed losses on eighteen of them
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: using foraged chemical receipts, sales figures, surveyor layer surveyor letters
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: at acreage reports, planting dates like fudging the plant in days,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: which we already saw payroll records that were fudging that too.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: These people ain't on the payroll, invoices, manifest and more
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: like literally any document you could fake, they were faking it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Wow, Like some of these I'm like, did you even
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: really need to fake this?
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah? That it's almost like a point. It's like it's
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: a compulsive disorder or something. Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Because it's like, especially too if they're like, where's this
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: money going? If they're living in this modest ranch house, right,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, does the does the pickup truck turn into
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: a monster truck? Is that the tip off that they
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: get that's the grave digger, that's the famous monster thrug grave.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the license plate is like tomato yeah.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, insurance fraud.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Oh that's sweitty letters. Okay, ma hard okay, yeah, I r.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: B right, just make it BMT black market tomatoes.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh is good. Yes.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: So they claimed five hundred and twelve thousand tomato boxes
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety nine, so they I guess, so this
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: money was going into expansion because they did buy more farms.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: They just claim that those farms weren't working very well.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Because that's a business thing. If you're not making money,
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: you buy more businesses that don't make money. That's they
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: teach that in business school. I learned it's really a
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: smart way to do it.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: It is, especially if you want to do insurance fry,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: which they also teach in business school.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: I take the classes to be like, so, how if
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I were to do this, how want to stop someone
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: from doing it?
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: I need to know?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Could you list everything that someone would do to do
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: insurance frous so I can keep an eye on Yeah?
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just what are the what are the markers?
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: You have to learn a lot of that if you
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: work in insurance. There's those skills on both sides of
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: the coin.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: There's always that, you know, It's like Gambery casino. It's
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: like the people that they hire to stop the cheaters
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: are former cheaters. And I'm and I'm sure that the
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: I R. S has tax cheats.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the government does it all the time. Early
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: if you can tell them how you defrauded.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Or hackers, same thing, big hackers.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know though, if I was a really
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: good hacker, I'm not working for well, I guess they
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: got you under a buying because they caught.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: You, right, Yeah, that's true.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: So their nineteen ninety nine hall was three point eight
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: million dollars in insurance money.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: That was an insurance money. It's not even their hall for.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Like legitimate backdoor tomato in the alley at night in
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: a trench coat sales.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: This is just insurance fraud.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: So this all comes from private insurance companies and is
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: later reimbursed by the federal government. So the private insurance company,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: I could see them not looking.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: That hard because.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: They're insurance scam So it.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Was like, look, uncle Sam gotto. So we didn't even
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: know what y'all say. No tomatoes this year from all
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: twenty farms. That's crazy. How much y'all need?
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Twelve million?
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: No point? Nobody's like maybe I should get out of
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: this business. No insurance justor called and was like, hey,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: hey guys.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Maybe corn, Hey the Warren family, Yeah, maybe corn corn.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Have you guys thought about grape?
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Yeeah, I don't know, something sturdy like milkons.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Or maybe not farming. Maybe that's an option. They just
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: don't farm anymore.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: They're like no, no, no, So in two thousand they
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: had twenty six farms and doubled down with the tomato
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: and strawberry fraud.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Now we've got strawberries in the mix.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Oh no, leave strawberries alone.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Strawberries are involved now miss shortcake Country days, you're going
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: to jail, babes.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: I mean tomatoes. You know, tomatoes are very sort of
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: ethically challenged. They're just a very of all of the
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: fruits and vegetables. They are the scammiest schemingst Everyone knows that.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because tomatoes be out here to be a vegetable
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: every day. It's like you're a fruit. Are you're already
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: lying in me?
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Precisely?
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: But strawberries, they've done that, no harm to any one.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: They didn't deserve this.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So this payoff that they got in two thousand
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: from the twenty six farms was two million, two hundred
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: and fifty four thousand dollars Jesus and so on Independence
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Day of two thousand and one was out out to
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: the fourth of Julci.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: The Warrens pulled their biggest yet that year. They had
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: switched insurance companies to Fireman's Fund and added a new
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: farm in Cock County, Tennessee. So now, I don't know
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: why y'all switching insurance companies, because if it ain't broke,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: keep scamming it. Yeah, but okay, as usual, they faked
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: production records for the property, pretended to have grown the tomatoes.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute, you know what they probably did. I
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: bet you the premiums from the company that they were
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: already scamming. They're probably like, these premiums are too high,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Like they're charging us too much for ripping them off.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: We need to find someone with that charges us less
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: for ripping them off.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I love that mentality, trying to save money on the
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: money they're stealing. Yeah yeah, yeah, they're like, how dare
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: you charge me to put them up there?
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Right right?
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: There ain't no robbery tax.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: And I've I've also been thinking like, hmm, I wonder
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: who they voted for there's that one. Oh yeah, and
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: then and then also too, I wonder how they feel
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: about peoplelong welfare. You know, that's there's so much that's
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: there's so much of that among the farm world, like
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: you know, these people soaking up all the benefits, like which.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: As wild they were so hardcore And if my point
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: wasn't clear earlier, like farmers were really hardcore about voting
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: for that man and deportation, mass deportation. And now when
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: they realize that, like the people who they employ aren't
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: afraid to come to work, they're like, wait, wait, wait,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: not like that, not like that.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Let me cat my employees.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: But I don't know any other any of the browns
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: on the street, any brown, any race, a race.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: But notod not my employees.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Somebody with a tan you.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Know, someone who just got back from the Bahamas, well
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: tanned person. Well, like no, it's so ridiculous and hypocritical.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: And also like you know, like people who work on
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: farms provide a service that is so immeasurable. It's like
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: don't don't we all need food to live?
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's lots of there's lots of welfare for farming,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: and like like a lot of subsidies for corn so
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: that they grow way too much corn than what is
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: necessary and.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Then destroy it.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: And then they either destroy it or they like strong
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: armed people to make ethanol like corn fuel, you know,
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: and just things like that or corn syrup, you know.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Like it's it's wild when you learn like the food
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: pyramid was a scam that was just made by like
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: people in the agriculture industry or all those commercials that
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: used to be like Got Milk that were really trying
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: to get you to just buy milk and then.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Be like, oh milk so good for your bone, so good?
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Do you want britle ass bones? But then you better
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: get get your brittle ass and get some milk.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: And it's like that's not the only way to get
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: vitamin do you guys? Yeah, but it was a conspiracy.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: But I thought they were trying to make me feel
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: more healthy. That's why you see something online and it's
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: like now we've learned that eating ten eggs a day
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: can improve your lifespan, and then like a month later
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: it'll be like eggs are bad for your heart, for
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: the cholesterol, and it's like there's someone propagating this whole
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: thing and I don't even think about it because those
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: are under the guise of health.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's just the government trying to help
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: us be healthy. No, they're trying to offload shit on us.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Yes, And you don't need to worry about any of
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: that because the planet is ruined.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, you see, come easy go.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: You know, my uncle Jeffrey, he's from the South, and sometimes,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: like my southern relatives may have like some difference of
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: opinions when it comes to like the environment and things
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: like that. So I kind of hold my breath if
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: we get to a more progressive conversation. And that's not
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: all of them, it's just a handful.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Let's just get out of this.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: But it's just right, yeah, talking crazy. I'm not going
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: to get some bullshit and the figtre slide. But if
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: it's something where I'm like, neither of us is going
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: to fix this, I'm just gonna let that go. But
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: if you got hate in your heart, I might not
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: have to walk you down.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: But so we were talking, we got on the subject
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: of climate change. I think cause our straws came and
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: they were just like the saddest paper straws and you
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: know how they just go limp in your.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Mouth after a while.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, if we're gonna crack down on that,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: can we also crack down on like I go, if
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I buy anything from a luxury store, they send me
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: home with fifty reams of paper and six boxes. I mean,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I feel like I could just put the shoot in
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: the bag, Like anybody's gonna do their part If I
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: gotta suck on a limp straw, y'all don't have to
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: have all this paper.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: But I digress.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: So I was talking to him, and I was like, oh, yeah,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: this paper straw is like, oh, that fucking turtle. I
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: still hate that turtle to this goddamn day. That's turtle
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: with the straw and his snout. And then after that
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: we're like, everybody has to have paper straws. But I
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: have beef with that turtle.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: But you never saw the turtle.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: No I did.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: But your uncle saying this, I'm saying this, And then
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the victim though, no, no heed, that turtle needs to
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: bitch asked to come outside.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, turtle a hardcore punk show.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Was not pressed about that straw but fine, whatever, And
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: but I was like, but you know what, we got
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: to save the planet. We got to do right by
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: the planets. Almost stuck on this paper whatever. And he
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I mean climate change. To me, it's
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: just like and I was like holding like baited breath,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: and he was like, climate change, it's just to me, Like, well,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: I mean it's all gonna be over.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: What are we fighting for? Like get like, let's just
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: party and have fun with the time that we got.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, until we all get boiled alive.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Not the nihilists.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna client change his fake. He
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: was like, no, very real, let's just turn up the
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: last league. He was like, Earth had a good run.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: It was we were having the time. The Earth had
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: a good run?
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Is crazy?
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: You giving up? You're giving up?
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. I'm like I'm still trying. I'm gonna suck
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: on the paper. But he was like, nah, let's just
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: give up. It was so funny.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: I was dead.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: But anyways, back to these people.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: So they switched their insurance company, right they were like them, like,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: I really think it's what you said, like the premium
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: lower premiums.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: For our crime.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: And so they switched companies and now they're with this
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: place yeah, fireman, fireman. Yeah, why is the fire why
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: is the fireman involved? The why are they in it?
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Wait?
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I want to find this Yeah, fireman's fun. I don't
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: understand why the fireman's is involved. But so, as usual,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: they fake their everything, pretending to have grown tomatoes on
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: the ground. Since nineteen ninety one created a full decade
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: of forced documents with notarized lease agreements, false testimony from
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: a realtor.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Now we got a realtor involved.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Not realtors listen, realtors like, there are realtors who really
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: are talented at realty and like getting you a great
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: property or a home that you love. And then there's
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: realtors who were scamming and doing other shit and they
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: were like, what can I do next?
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Get my real estate? Right right?
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: So you have those real some realtors in New York
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: when they're showing you apartments for rent, I'm like, bro,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: you ain't no realtor, Like you are a dude that
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: they hired to just hang out at the building and
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: let us see it.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: You don't know shit about this place.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: The open doors.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah literally, He's like, yeah, so you see here, you
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: got cabinets.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, over here we got, we got this. This is
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: one of the bedrooms. This is this the main bedroom.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: It's one of them. It's yeah, like they don't know.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: One of my favorite little, little real estately scams ever
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: happened was when my ex wife and I we moved
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: to New York and we were looking for an apartment.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: A guy and like an agent shows us one and
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: as we're going up the stairs, this couple is coming
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: down the stairs and they're like, we really love it.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: It's really great. And then he shows it to us
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: and it was, you know, okay or anything, but we
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: didn't pull the trigger on it. It was in our neighborhood,
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: and like a day later I was walking by there
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: that same couple was waiting. They were plants that like
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: walked out. They were like waiting, and I saw the
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: realtor coming up with another client and they're like, we
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: love it, you know, it's fantastic.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah for asking right.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: No.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: So they also had you know, their fake planting dates,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: their fake spring records, bogus harvest records, false diagrams detailing
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: a fantasy ira garation system that they wanted to make
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: fantasy irrigation. In two thousand and one they stepped they
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: should up. Okay, they got on Microsoft paint and they said,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: let's make up fish. Then you know what, they probably
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: got a power points, you know, and they made a
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: fantasy and they had hundreds of fake invoices. So once
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: they got crop insurance in place, the warrants planted two
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty two acres of tomatoes but had actually
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: only planted five acres.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: So what should mean?
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: So when they got their insurance in place, they planted
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty two acres of tomatoes but had
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: actually only planted five acres. I'm gonna let you guess
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: which acreage was accurate. So on July fourth, their brand
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: on the fourth of julacy, excuse me, their brand new
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: farm was devastated by a freak haale storm on a
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: day with clear blue skies. The farm employees purchased bags
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: of ice and mothballs from the grocery store through a
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: load of tomato plants, I'm sorry, through the loads around
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: the tomato plants, and snapped photos of the hailstones fallen
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: from the sky.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: With a disposable camera. So you know how how hell be?
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: It looks like my boss, and it definitely happens on
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: the fourth of July, and so for July s excuse me,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so thank you for correcting me.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: According to Bobby Chambers, who ran the farm in Tennessee,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: do we have a photo of Barbie Bobby? Bobby said?
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Bobba said. The way we did it, we was down
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: taking pictures out this row, and then we just stood
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: behind it and threw up through the ice up over top.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: To me, it looked like a helstorm in broad daylight. Yeah,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: and broad daylight, no rain in sight. And listen, we
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: don't got photoshopped that good right now, right now, it's
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: two thousand and one.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Everybody ain't got came, you know, came.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Forward taking No, there's a there's like, I mean, why
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: couldn't even have somebody throw the ice on Bobby?
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: And look at there's a driveway behind where there's there's
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: no there's.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: No hell, there's no hell over put the fake hell everywhere.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not destroying the hell, just stopping behind.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we ain't harvested yet. So the hal
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: did hit it. The hall didn't want that, Like, what.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Is just what got him caught? Please tell me that
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: this please.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: So basically he's telling me everybody way.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Look, he said to me, it looked like a hailstorm
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: to me, it don't, Bobby, Bobbie, don't look like hailstorm
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: and me by the Chambers. Then they picked up wooden
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: tomato steaks and acted or attacked the plants.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: So they picked up wooden tomato steaks and attacked the plant.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Right to simulate the damn the hal.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Because you know how Hell be attacking the planet.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, in July in a clear sky eats tomatoes, yes,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: and definitely doesn't look like I said that.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Bobby threw up in the air quick. He was like
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: taking picture on three on three And.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: It's amazing how well hale can target tomatoes from the sky.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Doesn't really fall around the area, just right on the tomatoes.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: And you know, when you you need to file an
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: insurance claim for Hell, it's important to go out in
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: the actual hell and take pictures with the hele and
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: on meat yep.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Retail is over. Every farm has tons of disposable cameras
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: just in case.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: So oh no, I had I have to read this.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: This is this is also Bibby Chambers. They had one
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Mexican who did all the beaten. He beat sixteen thousand
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: of them. He just go through there and knock these
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: off of them.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: Bobby said, yeah, that Mexican love beaten domat.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: He's like, I don't need no help, I'll beat all
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: the tomato. Yeah, so to replant two hundred and fifty
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: two acres of tomatoes. The warrants got ninety eight thousand
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: dollars in two thousand and one for over seventeen farms
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: they received. For over the seventeen farms, they received one
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: million dollars from the Fireman's Fund and claimed they were
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: owed an additional three point eight million dollars. That's when
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: the US Department of agric Culture finally started an investigation.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: That's when it wasn't the hail photos. It was that
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: they came back again and they were like, you know what,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: actually this time we wont three point eight million. Like
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: you've already made so many millis greedy Before the three
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: point eight they were probably at around five point eight million.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so why why, I don't know, just greedy maybe
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: or who knows, maybe they had like there's some gambling
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: thing going on, you know, sometimes that happens.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: They want to clean up on a mothball. That's at
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: least a meal.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, and life is you know, in rural western
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: North Carolina, life is very expensive.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Oh so expanse sales expansive as hal So the USDA
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: official estimate of about five percent of crop insurance payouts
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: each year go to phony claims. That's pretty low, even
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, about the same proportion found in other
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: types of insurance. The farmers buys an insurance policy that
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: provides partial coverage, usually fifty to sixty percent, for the
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: crop that he expects to raise. So that's what it is.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Started up in the crops that they wanted to raise,
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: because then they could also up the amount of insurance
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: money that they received even though they were lying and
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: forging about these crops. So the insurance agent tells him
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: the policy. The loss adjuster is Dishpats to inspect the
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: field if the farmer claims a disaster. If the disaster
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: is confirmed, the crop insurance comes right and you get
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: a check. And then the US Treasury, which guarantees the
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: risk farm insurance, often reimburses the insurance company. So the
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: warrants were still in the government's money. And we realized
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: that a long time ago, and you really can't steal
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: from the government. They can only steal from us. It's
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: a one way theft street, right right. You try to
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: take from Uncle Sam, he gonna get your ass and.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: What we want you in prison?
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to know that.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: So the insurance companies weren't dumb though. They were in
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: And we kind of had a hunch about that too
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: because we found out the government was running it back.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, yeah, y'all got millions and acres and
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: we definitely gonna get y'all at billion.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Sure was too bad about your tomato?
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Is everything looks real? Hellishop?
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sure, and they look pretty ruined over there.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: The claims adjuster comes out, he gets in one of
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: the photos they throw us up on their looks like
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: hell man.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: So insurance agent George Cassir coached the warrants in detail
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: about how to perpetuate the fraud. Oh, we were seeing
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: much insider knowledge. If you have it from the insurance company,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: look at us geniuses. Then adjuster Thomas Jeffrey Marsh testified
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: that his supervisor at the insurance company instructed him to
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: lie on crop damage forms for the Warrens. It took
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: federal prosecutors three years to unravel the Warren's scheme. He
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: charged the Warrens, as well as two of their employees,
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: an insurance agent and an insurance adjuster, with participating an
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: extensive scheme to defraud the Federal Crop Insurance Corporation. So
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: this is a federal prosecutor who charged them. Roberts, attorney said,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: it's fine for the government to issue sentencing memoranda and
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: make Robert Warren appear to be the Saddam who's saying
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: of crop insurance. But he's not the Saddam who's saying
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: insurance is yeah, oh Sama been cropping?
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Jeffrey Dahmer of tomatoes. Yeah, he's not that
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Oh oh, it's two thousand and one. So remember like
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: a really popular name at the time.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah he was hot.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of babies named Saddam here. So Bobby
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Chambers testified for the government and got two years probation.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: And honestly, the way that Bobby Bobby Chambers speaks good
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: at me in probation.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: He know it's not what he do. He was throwing
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: iceing air time. Look look at him. That's a simpleton.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: If I've ever seen one.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: It weren't my fault, right, He was like, all I.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Did is throw the ice in the airline.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: That told I'm a good German.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll throw the ice up in the earth, and
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: I picked some my Yes. Okay, Bobby, it's okay.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: You can be free.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: I hope you ain't your Mexican friend are both free.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: I hope the Mexican man was not charged, seeing as
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: we don't have his name. I hope he was not
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: charged because he didn't do nothing but what he.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Was assigned to do with the job house.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, if I go to the job house and they like,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: whack on these plans, I'll be like, okay, anything else
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: is above my pack or ade.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just a plant whack. That's what I do here.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: So Bobby testified for the government, right, and Robert and
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: VICKI took a plea deal and agreed to forfeit seven
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: point three million dollars and pay nine point one five
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: million in restitution to the USDA. They both got six
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: years in prison, but that wasn't the end of their
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: criminal activity. Lord Jesus, I'm gonna wrap it up with
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: the rest of their crimes. But I do want to
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: stay here, Andy, I don't know that.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Do you think that
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: the government should have put them in prison or should
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: the government have made them like actually repay them with
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: real crips?
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: No, put him in prison, okay, because I just think
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: like restitution, you always get like a huge restitution like
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: that where it never gets paid back.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, let's make a pay it back and tomato, right.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but no, but you gotta you hat, you know,
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: the whole idea is to deincentivize the crime. And if
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: you know, and if other scammy farmers were seeing like,
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: oh well they just made him grow tomatoes, legit, we
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: might as well try and fuck them, fuck over the
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: government and we might not get caught if we're not
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: as brazen as these people.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: But I feel like a lot of people who do,
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: especially like farmers or anybody doing their passion, Like, I
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: feel like you only start scamming one if you're just
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: like that's in your nature. But I think I'm saying
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: maybe it's like sixty forty. I think that sixty percent
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: of people who get into scamming like they kind of
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: just like need the money, are fine. With the risks,
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: and then there's like a forty percent who are like,
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: I love crime and this is what I'm gonna do.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: And I don't an associate path and I don't have
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: any Yeah, I don't. I don't really care about other people.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: The normal seals from us all the time. The pentagon
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I can't account for.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: It's well, it's also messy to be as I'm sitting
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: here saying like, no, put him in prison. It's like
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, because it's like there's too
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: many goddamn people in prison as it is, but it isn't.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: But I don't know what to do. How do you
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: stop people from tomato scams? You know, it's like incentivize
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: that kind of thing, and I don't. I don't know,
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: you know, I feel like.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: An ankle monitor and having to work their own crops
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: and stuff for six years.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: At least we're all getting food out of it.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean when yeah, government work farms,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: make them take it back.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: I take it back yeause that would quickly turn into
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: more slavery for me.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: We already have so much.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: No, No, I will growing tomatoes.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: No, then I'm gonna be like yeah, if you steal
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: a call, you gotta make license plates.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Oops.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: They are already doing that in prison. No, no, no, no,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: terrible idea. What happened to me?
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: What happened to Oh, my god, get out of me,
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: capitalists man. Oh no, wait, I gotta say ation in here.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: Oh what was that?
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: The man got me for a second, said Uncle Sam
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: too many times, and he appeared like yeah, he came
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: on my shoulder. I said his name too many times,
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: and he said we want.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: You, and I was like, okay, all right, Oh I
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: like to be wanted.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I do love to be wanted. So we're gonna just
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: run through some more of the crimes they did real quick.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: So this is after, yes, after, Shortly after his release, Robert,
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: the husband in this scheme, embarked on a scheme to
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: evade currency reporting laws by making a series of cash
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: bank deposits of less than ten thousand dollars. Wow, so
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: he was avoiding them getting the text because the deposit
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: was less than ten And it started while he was
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: serving probation in a halfway house. Now you are in
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: the halfway house, you halfway out of jail. You already
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: got one foot back in, So.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: That's two feet fish got a swim.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: So he owed the government millions of dollars right and
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: forfeiture money. So he was attempting to hide the cash
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: that he did have because he didn't want to pay
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: the government back of course. So he deposited more than
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: two hundred thousand at RBC Bank after his release from
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: prison in November two twelve, and amounts small enough to
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: avoid having the transactions reported. Under the Bank Securities Act
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: or Bank Secrecy Act. Banks are required to file, you know,
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: to the internal new they have to tell the IRS like, oh,
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: they getting money, and then IRS is like, we're let's
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: call them yeah, and he was like, I'm not going
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: to tell the IRS. I don't want them to know
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: I'm getting money. So yes, And I do really hate
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: that about the IRS and the banks because they're like,
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: oh you got money, okay.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to tell somebody.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: And if you ever used to like withdraw a large
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: amount of cash, who the bank will be like, no,
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: come back on Thursday. Oh no, thursdays we close at
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: nine am, Like they did not want to give you
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: your money.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: So bank records show that Robert deposited two hundred and
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: eight thousand dollars over five months. Why not just live
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: your life cash.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: There's so many like you can pay cash for your rent,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: so many places you could like get a little one
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: of those like little debit cards and put cash on
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: it prepaid for online purchases. But why am I trying
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: to help you?
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't have the mind of a
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: tomato baron. I told you that tomato gangster.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: So he had asked the teller how much he could
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: deposit without the bank having to follow report once, and
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: the tailor told him that's why everything he did was
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: didn't exceed nine thousand dollars.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: Is that what it is?
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: It's nine grand now yea, yeah, yeah, so as long
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: as it's under ten k.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, eighty nine nine nine yeah every.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Timeine, But I love the teller being like not, like, well,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: so what do you mean by that? The Tailor's like, yeah, no,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: so under nine thousand you coachy? Yeah, you want some deposits,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: and if they're coming on a Friday at the end
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: of the month, we ain't go check that shit till Monday,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: so you could do a double drop if you want,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: like right, And also.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: They go look it up at the library because if
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: you're asking a teller that you're you're basically telling the teller,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: Hey I want to scam, you know, Like, but the job, the.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Teller's job is telling. I think she's just telling to
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: the customers. I don't know if she's telling the government.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah no. But I mean, if I if
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: that was a question I wanted to know because I
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: wanted to high mad money, I would I would find
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: out then, just like watching the Yeah yeah, hello, I
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: was wondering if I was going to do something nefarious,
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: what the cash level would I have to stay under?
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: Oh sorry, please, I'm not going to do that.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Of take that pin with the chain and just write
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: down the nefariousness just right, and they're slipping under the glass.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: Eighty nine nine perfect.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Oh say tomorrow, see you tomorrow. That this is great.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Yes, come in and do your crime, sir, you have
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: a great day. Thank you for banking with us, Thank
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: you for doing crime with us.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Oh please do come again, crime again. Okay.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: So wrapping this up, a bank manager told an IRS
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: investigator that she witnessed Warren. This is Robert making deposits
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: of older twenty dollars bills that were rubber banded, wrapped
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: in aluminum foil and freezing cold. No, the bank manager
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: the tailor told it was like, what is money?
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: So ice call. I would be like, my ass were
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: frozen and now they tholl.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: So dummy ding dong take them out of the freeze
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: or the night before Jesus Christ, like, you can't be
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: bothered to unwrap the foil.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: It looks like you made counterfeit money and you give
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: it to people hot off the press.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, smell right, it's smashed.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: A little bit when I hailed it. No, no, no, no, no, no,
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: that's from the good Yeah. It was in my back pocket,
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: right out of the oven. I keep all my money
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: in my crotch area, so that's all. It was just
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: cratch dollars.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: It's just moist.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Oh no, moist.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was tripping and older twenty dollars bills don't
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: keep going to the same bank branch then, mm hmm,
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: because yeah, there are there's so many newer twenties in
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: circulation that that might catch somebody's eye. So sometimes the
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: cash he cash worn deposited smelled stale and musty was.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Bringing in the spanking ass cash. Yeah, you would have
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: for breezed that cash before you bring it in.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: That's why the tilers got tired of Yeah, yeah.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: They were getting hot wet spank. He asked cash, right.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like he was hiding like while they
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: were stealing the government money before they got caught, they
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: were hiding money, obviously hiding it in the freezer. But
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: the musty I wonder if that's like I don't know
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: if there was buried money, if it was in a mattress.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: You so keep you're hitting money like pristine and in
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: like a chest.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this sounds like.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: It was given freezer.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: But then like the cocaine you know down in Colombia,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: they would like bail palettes of money and then bury
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: it and it would come you know, like they'd wrap
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: it in plastic enough it was.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Literally dirty money. Yeah yeah, oh but it was clean because.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: Completely wrapped in plastic. Yeah, you see footage of it.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: It's like unbelievable how much money that they well, they
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: just had to get rid of so much cash.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Where is his saran wrap?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: It was us an aluminum foil.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: This is such a husband thing to do of Like
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: you definitely grew up as a young boy and never.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Did any chores.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: Don't know how to do your own launch, like have
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: no cooking skills. If your wife tell you to put
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: away to spaghetti, you put the whole pot it was
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: cooked in in the fridge.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: It's giving that activity.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: If you well. But also to be fair too, saran
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: wrap does not hold up well in the freezer, not
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: as well as foil.
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  Speaker 1: That's I guess true. I think, yeah, yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: maybe not a freezer if it's gonna have stuff in
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  Speaker 1: it and have mildew, or turn the freezer off. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you, but I definitely know
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  Speaker 1: that now these bank tellers would have let you live
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  Speaker 1: if you had this sketchy ass to deposits going on.
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  Speaker 1: But the money wasn't stinking rusty.
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  Speaker 4: We yeah, no.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm a bank teller and I gotta come in
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  Speaker 3: every day and count the money, and it's my hands
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  Speaker 3: are touching money all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Money's already dirty enough. You got nasty.
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  Speaker 3: Booty money, like no, just for breeze it, yeah, for
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  Speaker 3: breeze the money or lights all the money that kills
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  Speaker 3: the germs, and the germs killed the older. We're trying
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  Speaker 3: to help you so when the USCA investigation started in
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  Speaker 3: two thousand and one, Robert began bearing stacks of twenty
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  Speaker 3: dollars bills wrapped in aluminum foil well.
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  Speaker 1: Then cloth bags, then stuffed in PBC pipes.
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  Speaker 3: This is where the PVC came in, which made them
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  Speaker 3: invisible to metal detectors. That's why he started depositing. When
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  Speaker 3: he got out of prison, a judge rule of the
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  Speaker 3: crime was a violation of his release on the previous conviction,
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  Speaker 3: and he was sentenced to twenty nine more months in prison.
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  Speaker 1: PBC pipes is so smart. You couldn't have been smarter
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  Speaker 1: with the aluminum situation. You put this in the ground.
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  Speaker 1: The ground is wet.
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  Speaker 4: Now, Well, if you see all a PVC pipe, it's
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  Speaker 4: not going to get in there if you put it,
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  Speaker 4: you know, if you end cap it and and glue it. Yeah, pipes,
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  Speaker 4: so they're water tight. You know, they run through your
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  Speaker 4: house and they don't leak. So yeah, so that's good.
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  Speaker 4: It's good to know. It's I think all your listeners
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  Speaker 4: should like file that away for if they ever need
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: to hide something. Bury PVC pipes.
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  Speaker 3: Well, regardless, he did successfully hide the money until he
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: started bringing out with money places.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, oh goodness, Robert and your wife? What
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  Speaker 1: was her name?
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  Speaker 3: Because Robert, it seems like you were doing most of
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  Speaker 3: the crime. I'm glad you got a lesser sentence here
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  Speaker 3: because you're surely out here.
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  Speaker 4: Name.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, let's call her Shirley. No, her name was Vicky.
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  Speaker 3: Her name's Vicky. But I'm glad that Vicky doesn't seem
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  Speaker 3: to be involved in those specific shenanigans.
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  Speaker 4: Convicty come.
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