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Ohio State Basketball: Is 5-Star Anthony Thompson Ready To Be A Difference-Maker? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: to watch Ohios Date basketball practice and also get a
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  Speaker 1: chance to talk to Jake Diebler and the four freshmen
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  Speaker 1: on this year's team. I don't know about you. My
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  Speaker 1: takeaway from watching practice is, Okay, this is the first
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  Speaker 1: time I've watched Anthony Thompson and thought, yep, that looks
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  Speaker 1: like that could be a five star freshman.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did think in terms of the availabilities that
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  Speaker 3: we have had, and now that you mentioned it, he
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  Speaker 3: was I think he was more involved in just a
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  Speaker 3: five on the five stary, and he seemed to be
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  Speaker 3: more noticeable. I think the things we really I noticed
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  Speaker 3: about when I was watching him and some of the
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  Speaker 3: other things we've seen, which involved a lot more drills
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  Speaker 3: and stuff like that, was more drills and can say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this guy's a talk guy who could shoot, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and so that was kind of the takeaway. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was you know, I think defense was kind of
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  Speaker 3: the emphasis of what they were working on today.
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  Speaker 2: And he had his moments kind of all around.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he definitely looked like he belonged and me
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  Speaker 3: he didn't look like a freshman who's going to show
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  Speaker 3: up and not and kind of be in over his head,
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  Speaker 3: which obviously nobody expected to be in over his head
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  Speaker 3: when he comes in as a five star recruit, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, still you never know.
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  Speaker 2: Not all five stars are built the same either, No,
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  Speaker 2: definitely not.
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  Speaker 1: And you saw him make shots outside, saw him get
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  Speaker 1: to the rim a little bit, saw him rebound.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit. That was all kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we've seen it now and this is you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is the same stuff we say during spring football
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  Speaker 1: practice every year, where it's like, Okay, we've seen it once,
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  Speaker 1: so you know it's in there. That doesn't mean you're
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  Speaker 1: going to see it every day.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the best he's looked, which either means
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  Speaker 1: we caught him at a really good day or he's
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  Speaker 1: really improving. The next time we're in here, we'll probably
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  Speaker 1: have more information on whether you know which one of
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  Speaker 1: those things it is. Defense is always a question with
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  Speaker 1: these guys, with every freshman, as every newcomer, defense is
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  Speaker 1: always the question. I mean, it comped this to football again,
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  Speaker 1: where you know we'll see wide receivers really flash and
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  Speaker 1: practice as freshmen it's like, wow, this guy's great, but
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna play a lot. It's like, well, how does
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  Speaker 1: he block? That is one of the things that keeps
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  Speaker 1: you off the field if you're not able to do
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  Speaker 1: some of the little stuff that the coach is looking for.
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  Speaker 1: Jake Diebler talked about the fact that offense is always
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  Speaker 1: ahead of defense with guys coming in, so that's going
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  Speaker 1: to be probably a little bit of a limiting factor
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  Speaker 1: in terms of how much you're going to get out
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  Speaker 1: of some of these freshmen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, I think sometimes in an old
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  Speaker 3: troupe with coaches that I think still exists is you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna make sure you're doing the little things to earn
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  Speaker 3: your way, earn your role. You can't just go out
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  Speaker 3: there and do whatever you're good at and the fun stuff. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he did stop, and it wasn't just Thompson.
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  Speaker 3: He kind of yelled at everybody from time to time
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  Speaker 3: about offensive rebounding and defensive rebounding and making sure everybody
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  Speaker 3: they were communicating correctly on defense. Defenses are more complicated
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  Speaker 3: than they used to be basketball wise too, so you
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  Speaker 3: know they had a couple of times that they stopped
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  Speaker 3: and they were talking about guys and order guys too.
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  Speaker 2: Of missing assignments and things like that.
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  Speaker 3: So you know that all goes into it for sure
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  Speaker 3: in terms of, you know, how he's going to figure
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  Speaker 3: out playing time. I mean, I think everybody's got Thompson
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  Speaker 3: penciled in as a starter and a guy that is
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  Speaker 3: going to play a lot. How much production will they
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  Speaker 3: get out of him. A lot of those things will
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  Speaker 3: be part of the puzzle.
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  Speaker 1: One of the other freshmen, Anthony Hempson, one of the
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  Speaker 1: five star freshmen on this year's a higher stay team. LJ.
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  Speaker 1: Smith the other one, and l J. Smith came in
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  Speaker 1: a little later. He would actually, well, he came in later,
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  Speaker 1: except he also became a year early, so he reclassified
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  Speaker 1: to twenty twenty six. And he is someone who you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's probably a little behind where Thompson was in some cases,
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  Speaker 1: but he's a year younger than Thompson. He also looks
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  Speaker 1: like he's a lot more sort of into the swing
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  Speaker 1: of things now that he has been in previous times
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  Speaker 1: we've been in here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the freshmen definitely don't stand out as
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  Speaker 3: being looking like they're behind or they're they're not developed enough,
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  Speaker 3: I mean not. Smith obviously needs to put on some weight,
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  Speaker 3: Thompson said he I think he said he's like two
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  Speaker 3: eighteen or two nineteen now, so he's added some weight.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't tell us what he waited before when he
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  Speaker 3: got here, but you know, he looks I mean, they
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  Speaker 3: do look like freshmen. I mean, you look like they
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  Speaker 3: could you know, their bodies could be you know, harder
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  Speaker 3: and more tone. They could, they could carry more weight.
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  Speaker 3: But they they don't look skinny either, so you know
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  Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see how they have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of pieces at every position now, so it's be interesting
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  Speaker 3: to see just sort of how everything fits together, almost
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  Speaker 3: like the football, you know, if there's going to be
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  Speaker 3: packages or matchups and how things work out. Whereas you know,
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  Speaker 3: last year it felt like, you know, they really had
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  Speaker 3: five guys pretty much that could play, especially once injuries
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  Speaker 3: set in. I don't think that's going to be the
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  Speaker 3: case this year, I think, and at least at this time,
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  Speaker 3: you know that you can see a lot of different
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  Speaker 3: options kind of that are out there.
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  Speaker 1: And while we were in practice, there were a couple
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  Speaker 1: of guys who weren't year today, Ivandi Govin Andrea Yulovich.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see either of those guys. And Jake Diebler said, like,
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  Speaker 1: don't worry, they're they're fine. They're just they're just out
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  Speaker 1: there doing something else today. It's not, you know, nothing
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  Speaker 1: to be concerned about, not an injury anything.
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  Speaker 3: That's just he said, they were out of town for like,
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  Speaker 3: they had to leave the country to do an nil
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  Speaker 3: thing and then they couldn't get back into the country immediately.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so not a big concern, not an injury issue.
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  Speaker 1: Just that's so that's that's where they are no problems there.
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  Speaker 1: But this is I think the versatility of this this
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  Speaker 1: year's team, and some of the mix and match where
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  Speaker 1: we talked the last time we were here. We talked
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  Speaker 1: to a bunch about Yulovich and you know, he can
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  Speaker 1: he's kind of a five, but he can also play
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  Speaker 1: the four. But you know Amari bienhim, I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: could play the four. And then you know, maybe you
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  Speaker 1: have Anthony Thompson at the three. But you've got all
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  Speaker 1: these different sort of combinations and I think really makes this.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you don't need all of these guys to
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  Speaker 1: hit their eightieth percentile outcome. If just some of these
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  Speaker 1: guys get to where you're sort of hoping they will,
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  Speaker 1: you got a lot of different ways to maybe make
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  Speaker 1: the work this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I think if you really, I
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  Speaker 3: think the best picture of what they'll look like that's
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  Speaker 3: realistic is I think they'll be a team that maybe
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  Speaker 3: moves the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Better than they did last year.
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  Speaker 3: They'll be hopefully you would think they'll be a little
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  Speaker 3: better defensively, and they'll be better as a rebounding team.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if they do a lot of the little
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  Speaker 2: things better, that will.
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  Speaker 3: Help them in some of their close game issues, I think,
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  Speaker 3: and just make them tougher to play against. And then
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  Speaker 3: because last year they were at times of an elite
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  Speaker 3: offensive team, and maybe they still have the pieces to
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  Speaker 3: be pretty good offensive team and maybe even an elite
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  Speaker 3: offensive team. But even if they're not, they're just better
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  Speaker 3: overall as a basketball team, and especially having more pieces
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  Speaker 3: makes a big difference. And again I can't stress this enough.
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  Speaker 3: They had absolutely no bench last year.
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  Speaker 2: This year, so if.
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  Speaker 3: They get anything out of the bench, it's a plus.
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  Speaker 3: But you look at it, you know, and we've seen
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  Speaker 3: there's been some messageboard discussion about, you know, having some
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  Speaker 3: skepticism about the transfers, which is warranted because they have
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  Speaker 3: really not gotten a lot out of the transfers. But
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  Speaker 3: these guys have better resumes than the transfers they brought
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  Speaker 3: in before, and they're not being asked to start, So
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  Speaker 3: I think that you have to like, the floor of
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  Speaker 3: this team looks like it's.
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  Speaker 2: Higher than last year's team.
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  Speaker 3: And we're still talking about a team that made the
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  Speaker 3: instant of the tournament last year despite having some injuries
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  Speaker 3: and some illness and stuff, and they were still you know,
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  Speaker 3: Andrew Byndham was one of the most talented players, and
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  Speaker 3: he was a freshman. It's interesting, you know, to see
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  Speaker 3: where he fits in. I also think, honestly, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you look obviously Bruce Thornton was a great player, you know,
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  Speaker 3: were they complimenting him exactly the best way with another
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  Speaker 3: small guard, and then.
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  Speaker 2: You look at you know, Royal there was just he
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  Speaker 2: was just so raw.
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  Speaker 3: I think he was probably playing out of position at
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  Speaker 3: the three, and I think a lot of times the
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  Speaker 3: offense would bog.
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  Speaker 2: Down when it got to him, and maybe he would
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  Speaker 2: make a play and score, maybe not.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the way that that three and four
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  Speaker 3: are going to fit together, I think it might be
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  Speaker 3: a better They might be have a more cohesive offense.
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  Speaker 2: It won't be a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: Guys that are just trying to isolate somebody and hope
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  Speaker 3: that he scored type of a thing. That's the way
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  Speaker 3: that I'm looking at it. Especially if you look at
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  Speaker 3: is bying M is going to be more developed. He's
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  Speaker 3: a guy we saw him a lot today really attacking
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  Speaker 3: the basket, you know, drive and dish and making some
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  Speaker 3: plays for some other people. So if you pair that
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  Speaker 3: with where Thompson, if he's going to be to start out,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's not going to be a back to
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  Speaker 3: the basket guy.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna sweat such as that even exists anymore.
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  Speaker 3: But he's a guy who can obviously stretch the floor
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  Speaker 3: and then he'll add things as he goes.
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  Speaker 2: So it's interesting to just to see kind of how the.
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  Speaker 3: Parts are going to work if bying Hm is a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of a playmakers, even if he's an undersize four,
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  Speaker 3: but if he's somebody who can score and can be
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  Speaker 3: physical and can find the open man and you've got
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  Speaker 3: some shooters out there, you know, that could be a
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  Speaker 3: pretty dangerous offense.
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  Speaker 1: The other two freshmen that we get a chance to
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  Speaker 1: talk to, two guys with very different stories from very
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  Speaker 1: different places. One is Alex Smith. He is a freshman guard,
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  Speaker 1: a freshman forward who when he was talked about what
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna bring, it is like shoot the basketball. Play
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  Speaker 1: that's it.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: And he's from five minutes that way. And the other
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  Speaker 1: one is Vole Rup. He is from about I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: let's see which direction are we going. He's that way.
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  Speaker 1: He's about ten hours on an airplane that way, and
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  Speaker 1: he talked about rebounding and defending the rim, so very
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  Speaker 1: different games. But those are two guys who are probably
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  Speaker 1: whatever you get out of them this year feels almost
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  Speaker 1: like a bonus where you know, if one of them
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  Speaker 1: is your eighth guy, ninth guy, that's probably a win.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, they were a poor defensive team, they were a
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  Speaker 3: poor rebounding team, and they didn't have enough people.
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  Speaker 2: They have nobody who could come off the bench and
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  Speaker 2: make a shot.
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  Speaker 3: So if those two guys can add a few rebounds
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  Speaker 3: and be able to you know, tough en up the
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  Speaker 3: front line defense a little bit and make a couple
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  Speaker 3: of shots off the bench, I think that again, it
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  Speaker 3: makes a big difference. And you look at all the
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  Speaker 3: one point losses and some of the close games and
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that, it's they were right there. They made
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  Speaker 3: the ternament anyway, but they were right there in a
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  Speaker 3: lot of ways to have one four or five more games.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying as like a not a hypothetical,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Kenny Atkinson type of thing where they really
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  Speaker 3: did win those games. No, they lost them, but it's
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  Speaker 3: right there. You talk about here's another play here. I
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  Speaker 3: mean it is true. I mean I'm not a big
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  Speaker 3: analytics person overall. But it is true that a lot
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  Speaker 3: of times these one point games will kind of even out, well,
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  Speaker 3: they've even out because you make the plays down the
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  Speaker 3: stretch and you know, and and it also they even
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  Speaker 3: out if you can play fewer of them and you
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  Speaker 3: don't have to worry about what it is in that standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's July.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's no point in being anything but optimistic
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  Speaker 3: about what you see out there. They certainly have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of guys they can go to even when some
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  Speaker 3: adversity hits. You feel like they'll still have some guys
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  Speaker 3: as they get deep into the season.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like this is just a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a temperature check right now. And with
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  Speaker 1: the understanding, yes it is July basketball season, the early
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  Speaker 1: early early scrimmage is October seventh, so that's still nearly
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  Speaker 1: three months away, so we're still very very early. But
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  Speaker 1: I continue to walk out of these practice is these
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  Speaker 1: mayte availabilities and think, you know, this is not a team.
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  Speaker 1: No one's saying Final four, no one's saying Big ten champion.
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  Speaker 1: I continue to think this is a team that's going
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  Speaker 1: to take another step forward this year where you know,
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  Speaker 1: last year they were kind of a little above average
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  Speaker 1: in the Big ten and got in the tournament. We're
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  Speaker 1: comfortably in the tournament, played a very competitive first round
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  Speaker 1: game lost. I feel like this is a team that
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  Speaker 1: probably right now, if I'm if I'm projecting, I'm thinking
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  Speaker 1: like they go from an eight seed to like a
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  Speaker 1: six seeds something like that, where you're a top twenty
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  Speaker 1: five ish team, you're probably a six seed. You win
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  Speaker 1: a game, maybe you win two. That feels like that
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  Speaker 1: would be a real tangible step forward for Jake Deeblow
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  Speaker 1: in this program.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I think I think you should aim for
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  Speaker 3: at least, you know, try to say a four and
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  Speaker 3: if you not, be terribly disappointed with a six.
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  Speaker 2: And you're right.
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  Speaker 3: There's the thing that I think about last year, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's so the toxic the narratives are so
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  Speaker 3: kind of toxic and somewhat understandably so around it, just
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  Speaker 3: because of the way the last decade has gone. Again,
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  Speaker 3: last year, it felt like, if everything went right, they
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  Speaker 3: were an above average to good team, but they were
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  Speaker 3: still too.
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  Speaker 2: Small and not physical enough.
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  Speaker 3: It was like, if everything went right, it was because
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  Speaker 3: they were making creating open shots and making them and
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  Speaker 3: not getting.
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  Speaker 2: Totally killed on the boards or defensively. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that'll be the case for this team.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this took like just a better overall roster
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  Speaker 3: and it should be a better overall team. Again, almost
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  Speaker 3: every time that a team came in and they were ranked,
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  Speaker 3: you go, wow, they're a lot bigger than Ohio State,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and the skills are the skills, but just size,
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  Speaker 3: it was like laughable almost sometimes who everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Else that was ranked they would play from the.
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  Speaker 3: Big ten was just had so much more size, And
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  Speaker 3: even Virginia was kind of the same thing, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that that will not be the case
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  Speaker 3: this year now, and I don't think they have to.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they have to sacrifice anything. I mean, again,
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  Speaker 3: having a guy like Thornton as a unique thing. Sometimes
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  Speaker 3: it's it's actually better to have more average guys than
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  Speaker 3: have that one elite guy, especially when he's a small guard,
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  Speaker 3: and it would have been nice to give him a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more help and have him have a more
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  Speaker 3: decorated career. But that's behind, that's water under the bridge
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  Speaker 3: from that standpoint again, you.
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  Speaker 2: Look at it, Yes, that's I think that's a very
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  Speaker 2: realistic goal.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, we'll see how good the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the Big Ten looks and how they match up.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe even you say.
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  Speaker 3: If everything goes perfectly well, maybe they could compete at
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  Speaker 3: the top there. I wouldn't say that that's a realistic
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  Speaker 3: goal at this point, but it's also you know, if
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  Speaker 3: they've they've been competing for eight or nine the last
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  Speaker 3: few years, and I think that that should I think
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  Speaker 3: if they finished ninth in the Big Ten this year,
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  Speaker 3: it would be a disappointment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like there should be a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a step forward. If you want to see you
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