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Katie Woolf spoke with Senator Malarndirri McCarthy · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie wilf on Mixed one oh four
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  Speaker 1: point nine thanks to Joyce Main Darwin. It has been
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  Speaker 1: reported that there's been a data breach. Now apparently Services
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  Speaker 1: Australia sent an email on Friday notifying businesses which accept
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  Speaker 1: the Basics card that the rollout of that cash list
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  Speaker 1: debit card was due to begin on March seventeen, so
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  Speaker 1: in just a couple of days. But apparently basically the
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  Speaker 1: email then was not sort of you know, not BC
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  Speaker 1: seed and what it meant is that the email addresses
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  Speaker 1: of more than six hundred Territorians who work in those
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  Speaker 1: businesses well went out. Now Services Australia spokeswoman has confirmed
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  Speaker 1: human error had led to the email addresses being visible.
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  Speaker 1: But joining us on the line to talk more about
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  Speaker 1: this is Senator for the Northern Territory, Melanderye McCarthy. Good
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  Speaker 1: morning to your senator.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie, Good morning to listeners.
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  Speaker 1: Talk us through the situation. What exactly happened from your perspective.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's certainly of a disastrous start to a
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  Speaker 2: program that we had hoped the Federal government would give
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  Speaker 2: us a whole lot more confidence on what this means Katie,
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  Speaker 2: just for your listeners is that in the Northern Territory
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  Speaker 2: the Cashist debit card is being introduced voluntarily. We were
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  Speaker 2: certainly opposed to the compulsory role out of it. And
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  Speaker 2: those businesses that already have the Basics card, and there's
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  Speaker 2: over six hundred of them, were sent an email later
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  Speaker 2: on Friday, and that email was explaining how the Cashist
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  Speaker 2: debit card would start this Wednesday. And the concern, of course,
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  Speaker 2: and I've been interested to know if any of those
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  Speaker 2: businesses speak with you. The concern, of course was that
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  Speaker 2: when the Department sent those emails of over six hundred,
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  Speaker 2: they had basically put all the emails on there, so
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  Speaker 2: it was a breach of privacy.
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  Speaker 1: Goodness me so more than six hundred of those territories
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  Speaker 1: the email addresses went out. Have any of them been
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  Speaker 1: in contact with you so far? MELANDERI? And what have
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  Speaker 1: they seen?
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  Speaker 2: Look, I haven't had direct contact at the moment. I'm
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  Speaker 2: in Canberra, so I will be in touch with my
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  Speaker 2: Darwin office to see if any of those businesses or
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  Speaker 2: even any of the participants on the Basics card have
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  Speaker 2: been in touch Katie. But what I can tell you
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  Speaker 2: is that this doesn't bode well for confidence. I've been
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  Speaker 2: very concerned, as you and your listeners know, about the
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  Speaker 2: forced rolling out of the Cashist debit card on the territory,
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  Speaker 2: and we fought very hard in the last settings of
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  Speaker 2: last year to stop that compulsory rollout, which we were
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  Speaker 2: able to do. But what's occurring now is a voluntary rollout,
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  Speaker 2: and that voluntary rollout is providing no information. I'm hearing
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  Speaker 2: anecdotally from Basics card recipients that they're not getting any
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  Speaker 2: information on this and it's a real concern.
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  Speaker 1: It is a real concern, and you know, I also
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  Speaker 1: think it's a real concern obviously that we've got this
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  Speaker 1: data breach. Have the government said thus far as to
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  Speaker 1: you know, exactly what's caused that and if they're going
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  Speaker 1: to be able to sort of ensure that it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: happen again.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's a really good question. Next week we have
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  Speaker 2: Senate estimates here in Canberra and I will certainly be
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  Speaker 2: putting those very questions Katie to the Department. It's not
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  Speaker 2: good enough that there's been a data breach, and it's
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  Speaker 2: not good enough if there's not been any information provided
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  Speaker 2: to people in the territory. We have over twenty three
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  Speaker 2: thousand Territorians who are on the Basics card and they
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  Speaker 2: will need to know what the cashier's debit card means.
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  Speaker 2: And there are other Territorians who could very well be
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  Speaker 2: on the cash's debit card before the end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Senator, I do want to ask you just quickly.
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  Speaker 1: I know that you are in Canberra, as you've mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: and we know that there is a mass rally which
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  Speaker 1: has been organized today at Parliament House in Canberra and
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  Speaker 1: it's called March for Justice. I'm not sure what the
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  Speaker 1: feeling is at Parliament House today. Are you able to
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  Speaker 1: sort of let us know if if there are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of women around and what we're anticipating.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, Katie, we certainly are seeing the color black everywhere. People,
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  Speaker 2: both men and women, you know, different whether they're members
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  Speaker 2: of Parliament or senators or staff, are wearing some form
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  Speaker 2: of black on their clothing, which I think is a
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  Speaker 2: really strong indication of the rally cry that people wear
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  Speaker 2: black to the marches today. And I certainly wish those
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  Speaker 2: in the territory who are going to the marches in
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  Speaker 2: Darwin and Alice Springs and anywhere else that might be occurring.
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  Speaker 2: This is about Australian women saying enough is enough, that
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  Speaker 2: we want people at all levels of the political spectrum
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  Speaker 2: and all political parties to recognize that the behavior we've
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  Speaker 2: seen in recent months has just got to stop. And
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  Speaker 2: I think today is going to be an important day
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  Speaker 2: for our country.
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  Speaker 1: And I know that there had been an offer by
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  Speaker 1: the Prime Minister of a private meeting with one of
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  Speaker 1: those organizers or with those organizers that's been rejected. They're
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  Speaker 1: calling on the Prime Minister to actually go out on
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  Speaker 1: the lawns and meet with all of the women out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's correct, Katie, it's what I'm hearing as well.
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  Speaker 2: There is a real call for leadership here and above
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  Speaker 2: politics in the sense that you've got to have the
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  Speaker 2: leaders of the highest point, and that's the Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 2: the Minister for Women and other coalition members being able
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  Speaker 2: to meet with the women out there on the front
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  Speaker 2: of the fore court. This is far deeper than people realize.
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  Speaker 2: It's sure it's here in Parliament House, but it's actually
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  Speaker 2: about those women in particular who are survivors of assault
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  Speaker 2: and abuse of all sorts of kinds in our country
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  Speaker 2: and other women who just say certain kind of behavior
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  Speaker 2: has to stop. So I think this is a deeper
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  Speaker 2: message for our country that Australian women have come together
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  Speaker 2: of all political persuasion, shapes and sizes, religion, and they're
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  Speaker 2: asking the federal leaders here and that's everyone, not just
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  Speaker 2: the coalition government, but it's all politicians to really stand
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  Speaker 2: strong and firm against this and respect women in this country.
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  Speaker 1: Senator, are you going to be joining those women today?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I'll be walking out with a lot of my
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  Speaker 2: colleagues and we will head out at about quarter to
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  Speaker 2: twelve Canberra time to walk out the front of Parliament
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  Speaker 2: and join the march and give our support to the
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  Speaker 2: men and women who are coming here. I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: isn't just a women's issue, this is our country's issue
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  Speaker 2: and I really commend all of the people who are
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  Speaker 2: taking to the streets today.
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  Speaker 1: Senator Melanderie McCarthy, it's always good to speak with you.
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  Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, Thank you.