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Ian Furness 10/14 H3: Cougs Talking Cougs with Alex & MK, checking the texts and Softy. · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 5: I was like, me?
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  Speaker 5: I was like, wait, I know, but I don't want
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  Speaker 2: Well, since Saturday, actually since Friday night, I've had people like,
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  Speaker 2: are you going to hear from MK and Alex? What
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  Speaker 2: the hell's going on with our little diminutive quarterback and
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  Speaker 2: everything else in Pullman? You think you got problems, Husky fans?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Better late than never. Normally
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  Speaker 2: on a Tuesday, I was not going to let the
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  Speaker 2: week go by. I have people like, this is literally...
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  Speaker 2: I think it's therapeutic for people. I've got Cougar fans
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  Speaker 2: texting me on Friday night. I've got them texting me today, yesterday. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: where are the guys? We need a little Alex. We
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  Speaker 2: need a little MK. We need a little talking off
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  Speaker 2: the ledge. Things are not going well in Coug land.
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: You can't even enjoy watching the Huskies lose at home
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  Speaker 2: and get boat raced by Iowa. You can't even enjoy that.
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  Speaker 2: You can't enjoy watching, well, I guess you can kind
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  Speaker 2: of enjoy watching Oregon lose to UCLA. I just kept
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  Speaker 2: thinking about Gabe Marks and his comments about the, about
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  Speaker 2: the jerseys they wore and the powder blue and all
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  Speaker 2: that stuff. It's hard to enjoy all that when you're
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  Speaker 2: losing to Utah state. Goodness me, Alex is here. MK
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  Speaker 2: is here. We're going to get into the quarterback change.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to get into everything we need to. Let's
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  Speaker 2: just start with some general thoughts on, on where we
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  Speaker 2: are right now. Alex, fire away.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not good boys. It is not good. I, uh,
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  Speaker 4: I was, I don't know about in shock, but I
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  Speaker 4: was quite surprised the way things unfolded on Friday night
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  Speaker 4: in Logan, Utah. I thought, you know, all things considered
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  Speaker 4: team got off to a good start in that first half.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't perfect, but there was certainly some improvement for sure.
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  Speaker 4: And then to kind of watch this slow unwind in
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  Speaker 4: the second half where, you know, what, what shocked me
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  Speaker 4: the most guys is just the inability to, of anybody
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  Speaker 4: on the team or on the sideline to pull themselves
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  Speaker 4: out of kind of that downhill spiral. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think for me that with a 16-3 lead, obviously
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  Speaker 4: things aren't going your way. I mean, really nobody made
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  Speaker 4: plays down the stretch, and that's the hard part. You
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  Speaker 4: had turnovers, you had miscues on defense, and ultimately, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it leads to a loss. So, yeah, it's, I mean, what,
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  Speaker 4: first one of five starts since 2010. It's been a
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  Speaker 4: long time since Washington State football has been here. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's going to take a lot of soul
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  Speaker 4: searching and obviously some changes, as we've seen this week.
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  Speaker 7: I think the biggest thing is everybody is looking, OK,
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  Speaker 7: where do we point the finger? And do we jump
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  Speaker 7: off the ship and just burn the season down and,
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  Speaker 7: you know, work towards the next? And there's there's so
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  Speaker 7: many different conversations happened. And my phone has been absolutely
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  Speaker 7: doing backflips of people are just like saying the same
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  Speaker 7: thing and just the disappointment. But collectively, Kirby's he doesn't
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  Speaker 7: necessarily have his back against the wall, but he's got
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  Speaker 7: to make some hard decisions.
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  Speaker 2: He's got to make them now.
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  Speaker 7: And there's got to be some changes right now, which
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  Speaker 7: we'll probably talk about in a second.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the other thing, Ian, that I think is, if
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  Speaker 4: I'm playing the glass half full side, which you know
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  Speaker 4: I love to do often, is that the reality for
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  Speaker 4: not just Washington State football, look south, down I-5 a
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  Speaker 4: ways to Eugene. We want to talk about NIL money
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  Speaker 4: and transfer portal and all the things it can bring
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  Speaker 4: that you can be Indiana or you can be UCLA,
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  Speaker 4: Oregon State, and you certainly can. but you can also
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  Speaker 4: be the flip side and the money doesn't really matter.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: The challenge this day and age is I get my
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  Speaker 4: roster in January once it's all set.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And can I get that roster to, to buy in,
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  Speaker 4: learn the system, gel, all the things before September 1st.
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  Speaker 4: So you guys do the math on how long that
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  Speaker 4: is because once that, once that happens and the season happens,
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  Speaker 4: you do it all over again the next year, right?
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  Speaker 4: That's what makes Kurt Cignetti so incredible. That's what makes,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Jamarcus Shepard so incredible is that they've kind
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  Speaker 4: of done it in one year, but that's not to
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  Speaker 4: say it's going to happen the next year. And I
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  Speaker 4: think the flip side is true for Washington state. This
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  Speaker 4: year is not going great, but if you do, you know,
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  Speaker 4: if you do let it play out and you give
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  Speaker 4: Kirby more and his staff time to figure this thing out,
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  Speaker 4: like I believe that they're going to figure it out,
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  Speaker 4: but it does, it's not a guarantee and it takes time.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the challenge this day and age in football.
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  Speaker 2: I want to circle. We'll get back to Kirby in
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  Speaker 2: a second. Cause I have a, Alex, you bring up
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  Speaker 2: a great point. You just really got me kind of
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  Speaker 2: thinking about a different, about something going on in college
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  Speaker 2: sports period right now. And it's, it's about what you
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  Speaker 2: just said. It's kind of about the coaching. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to get to that in a second. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to bury the lead. The lead is, I mean, everyone's,
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  Speaker 2: it's the Caden Pinnock situation. He is, he is not
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  Speaker 2: going to start this week. Owen Esselman is going to start.
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  Speaker 2: And the three of us were going back and forth
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  Speaker 2: on Friday and texted. And it's, you know, there's offensive
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  Speaker 2: line issues, which we can bring up and incorporate into
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  Speaker 2: this conversation. But Alex, let's start with you. Pinnock, out
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  Speaker 2: Eshelman in go.
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  Speaker 4: Well I tell you what guys shades of another redshirt
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  Speaker 4: freshman starting at Oregon State down in Corvallis uh that
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  Speaker 4: was this guy back in the day so.
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  Speaker 2: I remember I remember I was at that game I
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  Speaker 2: hope it goes.
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  Speaker 4: Better for young Owen Eshelman than it went for a
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  Speaker 4: young Alex Brink it was not great that day uh
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  Speaker 4: obviously it's a tough place to play I you know
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  Speaker 4: again I I We were talking about this via text.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think you can lay this all at the
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  Speaker 4: feet of Caden Pinnock by any means. But the results
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  Speaker 4: are the results. And one of my favorite sayings as
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  Speaker 4: a quarterback trainer is the ball leaves our hand last
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  Speaker 4: as a quarterback, which means we are ultimately responsible for
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  Speaker 4: the results on the field. And I think Caden would
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  Speaker 4: tell you the same thing, and the results aren't there.
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  Speaker 4: And so the staff had to make a move. I
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  Speaker 4: think going with Owen Eshelman... has, you know, there are
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  Speaker 4: some really great things about Eshelman. Like when he came in,
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  Speaker 4: the Jimmy Rogers staff, they loved him. Danny Freund loved
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  Speaker 4: his athletic ability, his leadership, his maturity, super intelligent kid,
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  Speaker 4: wanted to be an engineer, had like a 35 ACT,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he's bigger than Caden, he's 6'3, 215 pounds. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think there's things that might be positives,
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  Speaker 4: but we also are not totally sure. So this is
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  Speaker 4: definitely a gamble. And it's kind of a bet potentially
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  Speaker 4: on the future of your program because you don't know
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  Speaker 4: where it goes from here.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I think ultimately you're hoping this provides a spark because
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  Speaker 4: it's a change and it's not the same thing getting
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  Speaker 4: run out there. but the offense has to improve. Like
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  Speaker 4: you're not going to win football games if you don't
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  Speaker 4: establish the running game and not with the quarterback involved
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  Speaker 4: with the running backs and with the offensive line. And so, um,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think that's super important, but again, I,
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  Speaker 4: in general, I'm really empathetic to quarterbacks because I've been there.
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  Speaker 4: I've been on both sides of this conversation. So I,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I kind of feel it more viscerally than
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  Speaker 4: anybody else. And, I'm just I'm hopeful for Owen Eshelman that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he's he's able to step up and get
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  Speaker 4: the support he needs and make the plays. And I
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  Speaker 4: also feel for Caden Pinnock because I think he's taking
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  Speaker 4: a lot of heat that is unnecessary.
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  Speaker 7: And devil's advocate, I don't necessarily think it's it's unwarranted heat.
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  Speaker 7: I think that, you know, it could be spread out
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  Speaker 7: towards other things. But the number one thing that's that's
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  Speaker 7: the most pressing on the field right now is, That
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  Speaker 7: is such an important position. You of all people know this, Alex,
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  Speaker 7: like literally you can put all the right positions, all
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  Speaker 7: the right people in place. But if you can't get
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  Speaker 7: the ball to him, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 7: So there was a number of plays that you talked about.
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  Speaker 7: There was a line breakdown, maybe a couple of schemes,
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  Speaker 7: drop passes, you know, things like that. But there are
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  Speaker 7: wide open passes that could potentially change the game. But
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  Speaker 7: beyond that too, protecting the football is the number one
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  Speaker 7: thing in this sport. And he's been a fumble in
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  Speaker 7: every single game.
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  Speaker 3: Has there been? We have to go back and look
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  Speaker 3: at that.
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  Speaker 4: But past three games.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just it's.
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  Speaker 7: Just one of those things right now that we can
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  Speaker 7: put this to bed. But this new quarterback coming in,
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  Speaker 7: young guy can run.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 7: Can throw the pill according to coach. Coach is saying
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  Speaker 7: he's been training like he's been the starter this whole time,
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  Speaker 7: which I love to hear that from Kirby. He's saying
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  Speaker 7: every single day that he's practicing, he's training like he
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  Speaker 7: is the starter. So it's going to be exciting to
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  Speaker 7: see him actually go out there and let loose.
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  Speaker 2: Just me as not the non-player looking at it from
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  Speaker 2: outside looking in, I think Kirby had to make the
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  Speaker 2: change for a lot of different reasons, football related. I
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  Speaker 2: think non-football related. I think it's a tough decision. You're
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  Speaker 2: the head coach and it's, you know, I love the
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  Speaker 2: fact that God, if you're, if you're a player, you
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  Speaker 2: gotta love the fact that the guy's loyal, right? Like
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  Speaker 2: he's going to stick, but at the same time, is
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  Speaker 2: it fair to the rest of the team in, in
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  Speaker 2: today's day and age, sometimes you've got to make that switch.
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  Speaker 2: I hated how this young man portrayed himself sometimes. And
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  Speaker 2: I just, I, I, you know, whether it be on
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  Speaker 2: the bench, on the sideline, post game, what have you,
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  Speaker 2: I think, and I've had this conversation with people in
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  Speaker 2: the athletic department, they need to do a better job
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  Speaker 2: of helping these guys coach them up on how to
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  Speaker 2: deal with the media and how to answer questions. It
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  Speaker 2: is absolutely ridiculous how it's portrayed at times. You're the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback for a Division I football team. In today's day
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  Speaker 2: and age, it doesn't matter if it was the old Pac-12,
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  Speaker 2: the new Pac-12, the Pac-8, the Pac-10, you represent the school.
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  Speaker 2: You're the front-facing guy, Alex. You did it great for
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  Speaker 2: all those years. Luke did it great for all those years.
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  Speaker 3: Body language is important.
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  Speaker 2: It's so important. It's very important. Maybe more so today
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  Speaker 2: than it ever has been. So That being said, let's
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  Speaker 2: just talk about what's going to happen. Alex, I was
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  Speaker 2: at that game, and I remember... You were under siege
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  Speaker 2: in Corvallis. You were under siege.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't good, guys.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I was excited to see you play
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  Speaker 2: because I watched you play in high school when I
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  Speaker 2: was still working in Portland. I watched you. I did
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  Speaker 2: the play-by-play on the All-State game at the old ballpark
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  Speaker 2: there in Portland. Yeah, the old PG. When you gave
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  Speaker 2: a middle finger to Boise State in the blue turf
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  Speaker 2: and you were coming to Wazoo, and I'm like that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I remember talking to Greg Barton about this,
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  Speaker 2: and the quarterback guru down there goes, this dude is
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  Speaker 2: the man. Like, Alex is the man. I'm like, I
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  Speaker 2: can't wait to see Alex Spring play. And then the
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  Speaker 2: first game, it's like you were on your backside the
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  Speaker 2: entire game. Like, it was a sea of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: every day is Halloween down there with the orange and black,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and it was just like, that's all we saw. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, whether it was that time or this time,
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  Speaker 2: and Oregon State aside, what's the challenge of a guy
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  Speaker 2: getting his first start at that level?
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  Speaker 4: Well, just everything moves fast, right? It moves faster. It's
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  Speaker 4: faster than practice. It's obviously faster than high school. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you can protect young guys to some degree with your
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  Speaker 4: play calling. And, you know, if you remember back then
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  Speaker 4: that was, that was 2004 Ian pre Jerome Harrison emergence,
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  Speaker 4: like the next five, six games after that is when
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  Speaker 4: Jerome Harrison really got going. So we were trying to
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  Speaker 4: figure it. We were trying to figure out who we
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  Speaker 4: were as an offense a little bit at that time
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  Speaker 4: as well. So like, we didn't go in with probably
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  Speaker 4: the plan we needed to win. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think for Eshelman, you know, the hope is Kirby Moore,
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  Speaker 4: I thought made some good changes when it came to
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  Speaker 4: play calling in a short week last week. I think
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  Speaker 4: they have a chance to kind of build on that
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  Speaker 4: personnel wise, you know, skill wise, skill position wise, things
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  Speaker 4: look good. You might be without left tackle Ashton trip.
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  Speaker 4: That's a little bit of an issue. So for, for
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  Speaker 4: a young quarterback, it's about seeing the picture clean and
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  Speaker 4: getting the ball out of your hands and trying not
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  Speaker 4: to hold onto the football. And a lot of that
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  Speaker 4: comes with, how the, how the staff kind of builds
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  Speaker 4: the plan for them. And, and I saw some of
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  Speaker 4: that with motion and screens and spreading the field last week.
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  Speaker 4: And so I'm cautiously optimistic there, but it's a challenge.
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  Speaker 4: Like there's no doubt. And look, Oregon state's playing with
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  Speaker 4: a ton of confidence. They Mike McIntyre, the D coordinator
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  Speaker 4: is a veteran guy. they've got 15 sacks on the year.
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  Speaker 4: That's like more than they had up to this, more
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  Speaker 4: than they had all of last year. So they're getting
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  Speaker 4: after the passer and research research stadium is going to
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  Speaker 4: be sold out. Like it's going to be packed there.
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  Speaker 4: The beaver faithful are excited. So I think Breschelman it's
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  Speaker 4: the thing I know about him. He's pretty unflappable. Like
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  Speaker 4: things don't really get to him in that regard. So
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  Speaker 4: I do think that's going to really help with like
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  Speaker 4: what he's going to see when that first whistle, when
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  Speaker 4: that first whistle happens on Saturday.
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  Speaker 7: And for you, and for you when you're playing, like,
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  Speaker 7: let's just say, put yourself in that position. You're a
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  Speaker 7: young quarterback, right? Haven't seen a lot of action. What,
• 14:30
  Speaker 7: what's going to make you the most comfortable? Because what
• 14:32
  Speaker 7: I saw last week, I did see some good things
• 14:34
  Speaker 7: as far as, okay, let's get the ball out of
• 14:35
  Speaker 7: Pennix's hands sooner. Maybe give him some quick passes, some confidence,
• 14:38
  Speaker 7: a little bit of pitch and catch. How are you
• 14:40
  Speaker 7: setting up Eshelman to, to be the most successful? Because
• 14:43
  Speaker 7: the best coaches, that's what they can do is put
• 14:45
  Speaker 7: you in the best position to be the best that
• 14:46
  Speaker 7: you can be. What are you doing to get him
• 14:48
  Speaker 7: some confidence to get him rolling?
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit of that. A lot of first,
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: second down, quick game and quick screens to kind of
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: get the ball in the hands of your playmakers. I
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: don't want to run him to death, but early quarterback run,
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: when I was a quarterback, I wanted to run and
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: get hit. I needed that to happen. I didn't want
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: to stand in the pocket and throw and get hit.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: I wanted to be out in the field and run
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: and make it happen. If I picked up a first down,
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden things started to slow down for me.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: So An early quarterback run or a quarterback scramble will
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: get them going, but that kind of quick passing game
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: and utilizing your playmakers. I think this offense is at
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: its best when they're finding the matchups pre-snap and throwing
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: the ball out to those guys in space. When it
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: drops back and pass, there's been challenges because there's just
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: not elite separators speed-wise. The last thing I'll say, Trey
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: Lechner had four catches for 37 yards, I think in
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: the first half, but certainly in the first two and
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: a half quarters, didn't touch the ball in the second half.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Trey Lechner's got to touch the football more. He's probably
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: one of, if not your best playmaker out there. Love
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: to see the tight end get involved more.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to see Peterson ever touch a
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: ball again because I'm on the turf every time. So
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: I give the ball to the other tight end, Lechner's
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: the guy. And he's been hurt a lot of the year,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: so he's finally back and healthy, and that's why they
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: haven't gone to him. I want to wrap up the
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: offensive talk because I want to go back to something
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: else in a second. Alex, MK, I'll start with you.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: How much of an issue is the offensive line? I mean,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: we blame the quarterback, and I get we blame the quarterback,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: and Alex has a great line. The ball touches your
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: hand last. That's a great line.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: How much, MK, you're a D lineman. How much of
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: a problem is that offensive line right now?
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, it is, but I think I've been struggling
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: because I also see that there's been first down opportunities there.
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: And then also the way that he does scramble, I
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: think it puts some of the linemen in bad situations
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: where there are holding calls or things like that.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: I don't necessarily think that play calling has been the
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: best to set this offensive lineup for success. And then
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: also mixed with Caden. I don't think Caden was in
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: the best position to be the best that he could
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: be as well. So I think it was a combination.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Alex? I mean, look, you know, you had 13 pedalings
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: last week and eight or nine of them were on
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: the offensive line. And like, there's certainly some that get
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: tied to, you know, scramble, scramble, scramble holds, but like
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: pre-snap false starts, like every week pre-snap false starts egregious.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Like that's a coaching issue. Ultimately, like they have to
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: figure that piece out that you can't have pre-snap holds.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: You can't have, or sorry, pre-snap false starts on first down.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: You can't constantly have holding penalties. Like there's, Again, guys,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: like I watched the tape of the all 22. I
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: sent you a clip. There was a play where Caden's
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: got a guy wide open downfield. He's going to deliver
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: the football and the three technique, the D tackles unblocked,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: like things like that just can't. happen at this level
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: of football the communication has to be better especially for
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: a group that brought back a ton of guys with
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: playing experience so I don't whether it's Caden Pinnock Owen
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Eshelman Julian Duggar Alex Brink and Chris O'Bruce back there
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: like the offensive line has to get better and what
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I would tell you is you know from a quarterback's
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: perspective you know we see you guys see the five
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: or six plays where it's like oh that guy's open
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: he's got to make that throw But if on 70%
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: of the other throws you're running for your life or
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: you're scrambling, it'd be like you getting cut block every
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: down MK. And then all of a sudden you get
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: a free rush and you're waiting for the, you're waiting
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: for the cut block and you don't run. And so,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: you know, again, you'd like to say the player just
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: makes the plays, which is a hundred, again, a hundred
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: percent true. I'm on board with that. But, We have
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: to understand that everybody has to do their one 11th
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: on offense for an offense to be successful. You can't
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: just have one guy make a tackle in space and
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: save the day for everybody on defense.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Coach Val, can you have you running the offense as
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: a quarterback at Liberty High School?
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: No, he did not. I was just checking. I'll tell
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: you right now, if someone was coming to the backfield,
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: I was running. Listen, I wasn't 10. 10 used to
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: be able to get out of there, and he could
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: throw the deep ball at me. If the slant wasn't there,
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: I was gone.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I want to bring up, and this is probably, we'll
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: just scratch the surface of this because it's a bigger
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: picture issue along the way. I'm going to, I'll present
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: it to you guys like this. I'm Crystal Bruce, Alex
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Brink with us. The, in today's world of college football,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: and Alex, you said it very well in that first
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: part of our segment today. You know, like nowadays you
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: put your roster together and, you know, here's what you have.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: And Signetti's done this and Shepard's done that at Oregon State.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Chesney's done it down at UCLA. What Eric Morris is
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: doing at Oklahoma State. You go through the whole list
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: of guys. And there's other places it hasn't worked, right,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: with a first-time coach. And I'm not saying first-time ever
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: head coach, just a new coach. Dickerson did a terrific
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: job at Wake Forest. I find it interesting. I believe,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: this is just my thought, and we'll just wrap it
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: up with just a quick answer to this. My thought
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: is this. I know players need to get paid. I
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: get all that. I laugh when I hear people say, well,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: the coaches are making this and the coaches are making that.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Forever and a day, college basketball, The coach has made, honestly,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: probably no sport in the world more so than college basketball.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: The coach is the most important thing. And you think
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: about the name. and the guys in the programs over
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: the years and because there's a system and you get
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: guys in you recruit but the coach i think in
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: today's college football the coach is more important than ever
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: before and the head coach that is because you're not
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: the chances to develop guys aren't there anymore But at
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: the same time, here's the catch-22. The patience level is zero.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely zero. Right, Alex? In MK, you have to
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: win now, and it doesn't help when a guy like
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Shepard goes in and wins right away at Oregon State
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So I present this to you.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: And this is very general. I don't want to get
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: too deep into it. We'll talk about this, I'm sure,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: as the weeks go on. Alex, you're around the program.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: You're traveling every week. How do we feel about Kirby Moore?
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, I really like Kirby Moore. And I, what
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: I would, the way I would phrase this is I
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: would kind of like, I would go a little deeper
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: than kind of where you went with the question is
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: that I think I actually don't think it's just about
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: the head coach. I actually think it's much more about
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: the assistant coaches in this day and age than the
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: head coach. And the reason I say that is again,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: back to my original point where if I only have
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: seven months to get a team ready to go, I
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: have to be an elite communicator. I've been an elite motivator.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I have to be elite in my scheme to be
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: able to get these guys to buy in. Now, listen,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: remember the success of these, the Bob Chesney's of the
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: world and the Kurt Cignetti's of the world, you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: and even the Jake Dickert's of the world stems from
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: the fact that usually they've been bringing their guys with
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: them to these places and then filling them in, right?
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Jamarcus Shepard's actually an anomaly in that sense, but you know,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: the best guys kind of have this mix of their
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: own guys. Plus they bring more, you know, the backfill
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: or whatever. And then they're able to get that to
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: mesh together. And I think that doesn't, it happens from
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: the top for sure. But I think the top guys
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: have control on the staff below them. And so my
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: point in saying that is that you know, on defense, boy,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Trent Bray, like he's really doing a really nice job.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: I really like that. I think the jury's out on offense.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I think the reality is Kirby Moore probably should have
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: been calling plays from the get-go, right? And let the
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: other guys do their thing so that he could kind
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: of get that side of the ball to where he wanted.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: And now he's playing catch up. And so I say,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I want to see that play out because I think
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Kirby Moore is one of the best offense coordinators in football.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: I'd like to see him kind of get everybody in
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: the right spot, right seat on the bus, so to speak.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: And that's more akin to what you're seeing from a
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: success level at other places is a head coach. That's
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: got command of the staff and the staff are the
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: guys that go and implement it in such a short
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: period of time.
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: I couldn't agree with you any more than that because
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: everything is the head coach right now is directing traffic.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: That's all he is doing right now is putting the
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: pieces around him to be successful. So I, Thousand percent
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: agree with you, but that also goes all the way
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: down to your recruiting. It goes down to your staff
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: that's in the building, nutrition, the whole nine. Because remember,
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: the players that are coming in, this is what they
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: come in and see. I think Washington State has to
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: do a better job of their recruiting. But Kirby came
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: in and he had a millisecond to kind of build
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: around himself. And he might not have gotten all the
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: pieces right. And he's just a couple pieces away from that.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: So a really good point to that, right, is like,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: you know, people, let's compare it to Jake Dickert. The
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: difference is Jake Dicker knew he was leaving Washington State,
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: so he knew which guys he wanted to cherry pick
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: and take with him. Kirby Moore, in his scenario, he
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: gets this job late because Jimmy Rogers left, so he's
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: going in the portal and grabbing what he can. He's
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: not really pulling the guys from Missouri, obviously. Again, I
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: want to see a cycle play out here and actually
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: see this all come together. You know, I do like
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: to support staff and I do like the coaches on
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: staff when they're in the right seat on the bus,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: but like, I need to see it play out a
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: little bit more than just this six or seven month window.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: We've seen. I'll listen. I'm a hundred percent with you guys.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And I think you guys nailed it. I think that
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: was a demise of Pete Carroll in Seattle, to be
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: honest with you, like he had great assistance. And then
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: those guys started getting jobs elsewhere, right. As you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: position coaches were now coordinators, coordinators are now head coaches
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: and it's hard to replace those. I think you can
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: make that argument with what's going on at Washington. I
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: don't think maybe Jed doesn't have the strongest staff, at
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: least I'm just guessing, right? He's also, there's a lot
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: of things going on. I think Dan Lanning is missing
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: his offensive coordinator at Oregon. Oh, boy. Big time, right?
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Oh, boy.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Big time is happening. I love the late Bill Dobe,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: but Dobe was great. Dobe started losing guys, and also
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: some guys started taking some time. You know, they didn't
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: do what they needed to do when Bill couldn't be
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: there with his wife being sick. So I'm with you 100%.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: It's a good conversation to have down the road. Hopefully
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: we don't have that conversation down the road. Uh, Alex, uh,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: go get them this weekend. MK, you flying down to Corvallis?
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: No, I, it's my birthday.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I'm turning 42. You see the grays right here?
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Kyle, you're the best looking 42 year old I've.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Seen in a long time.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Not 42 brother. You are not 42. And that actually
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: is terrifying. Cause I like when I started hearing you
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: guys in your forties and the kids are growing all
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: that stuff. I, I'm already old, then I feel even
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: older with you two guys. All right. Alex, I sent
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: some stuff to my man, JT Brown. He's like, this
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: stuff is unbelievable. He's like the most fashion-conscious guy in
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the world. So tell us about Osaga Shoes.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, check out osaga.com, O-S-A-G-A. It's a family shoe brand
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: that my grandfather started in the 70s, kind of alongside
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Nike out of Eugene. And we, my brother and I
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: revived it in around 2020 and we're making shoes. We're
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: selling them. We're almost sold out of this first batch.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: We're getting ready to get round two. So check out osaga.com.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: MK is in the Maple Valley office. Hey, if you
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: got a 30% interest rate on a credit card, I'll
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: tell you right here.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: Well, if you're consolidating any kind of debt, we got
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: home equity lines of credit.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Definitely help you with that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: But If you're looking at anything with real estate or mortgages,
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: reach out to Team Bruce over here in Maple Valley.
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: And then if you're looking for a gym, the Buffalo
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: Gym in Maple Valley is the gym to go to, baby.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Better days ahead, boys. We'll talk to you next week.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Talk to you next week. Go Cougs. Go Cougs. That's Alex.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: That's MK. We'll come back. We've got Factor Fiction coming
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: up next.
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: Hey, Jed Fish here, your favorite coach of the purple
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: and gold. It's not DeMond's fault. It's my visor's fault.
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: It gets in the way of my play calling. We're
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: going to hold a press conference, much like we did
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: when DeMond apologized. We're going to hold a press conference
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: and this week maybe throw 78 times a game. We're
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: still the best team in the land. I'm the best
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: coach in the land. I can't wait to see Softie
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: on the sidelines.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Go Dawgs. Oh my gosh, that's good. That is good.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just so anti-visor. I don't care if it's Jen
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: or anybody else wearing it. Why are you wearing a visor?
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: See, and I actually like the visor.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: It's just a bummer that Lane Kiffin wears one.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: That's why I don't like it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: It does ruin it. It does put a damper on things.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: But I think the visor's I mean, it's a good
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: look if you can pull it off.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I know we've got to get to Factor Fiction. Speaking
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: of that, 206, suck it, Flyers. Suck it, Kiffin. Thank you, Ashley.
• 26:51
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• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Because that's my go-to.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Suck it, Kiffin. Kiffin. Just a quick shout-out. Enjoying all
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  Speaker 2: the shows again from the 434. I have no idea
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• 27:05
  Speaker 2: would not agree with you in terms of me having
• 27:07
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• 27:08
  Speaker 2: and my husband wouldn't either.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: In a new world, UW is a mid-major and a
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: feeder school for the top 20 programs. See, that should
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: not be the case. But spending-wise, they're not a mid-major.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Keep that in mind. What the schools are spending at
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: the Power 4 level compared to the Group of 6
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: level is not even.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not close. I know people want to take shots
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and all that. I wish I could. That's the reality.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: But when you're in the bottom third of the Big Ten,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: that's a problem.
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 27:38
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• 28:25
  Speaker 2: That might have been from two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: final pick of the week because we have a short
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  Speaker 2: show tomorrow, and we are in a 40-yard dash. We're
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  Speaker 2: doing the cone drill on Friday. We have not even
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  Speaker 2: an hour show, really, when it's all said and done.
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  Speaker 5: Right, real short.
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  Speaker 2: So this is our final pick of the week. It's
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  Speaker 2: a Wednesday. Usually it's me. I deferred.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I took the opening coin toss. I deferred to Ashley
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  Speaker 2: for many reasons, mostly because I'm not good at this
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  Speaker 2: right now. Because you didn't want to lose two. I've
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: already lost once this week.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you didn't want to go 0-2.
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  Speaker 2: Earlier today, BYU plus 10.5. Greg, I was going to
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  Speaker 2: take that one, so once that was off the board,
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  Speaker 2: it was your pick.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: What do you got?
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to say the pick first, so I'll explain
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  Speaker 6: why after. I'm going to take the Giants plus 1.5
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  Speaker 6: versus the Giants.
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  Speaker 4: Saints.
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  Speaker 6: The Giants are at home playing against the Saints. I
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: thought the Giants were going to crumble when Jackson Dart
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  Speaker 6: went away.
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  Speaker 2: We all did.
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  Speaker 6: But Jameis Winston, as much as I thought he was
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  Speaker 6: just the funny guy, like, so entertaining to watch, he's
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: figured out a way to get this team to rally
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  Speaker 6: around him. They tied the Commanders last week, but they're,
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  Speaker 6: I think, what, three and 3-1-1.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, 3-1-1. They are leading the East, which is a
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  Speaker 2: pillow fight.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, and then the Saints, I thought they were
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: going to be a lot better, and then they've got
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  Speaker 6: one win, and Tyler Shuck last week had minus. 1
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  Speaker 6: fantasy points for my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Minus one fantasy points as a quarterback?
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  Speaker 5: Minus. 1.
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  Speaker 2: As a quarterback?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, as a quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: How do you do that?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know it was that bad, so I just
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  Speaker 6: think at home, I just think.
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  Speaker 5: The Giants are going to win this game.
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  Speaker 2: Home dog, you're taking Giants plus one and a half?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, home underdog. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Fact, 49451. If you disagree, fiction, 49451. Oh, news. News,
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  Speaker 2: show news.
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  Speaker 8: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, this will be the second week no
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: booze news. I know. Not happy about that.
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  Speaker 5: No, that is a real problem. Maybe I'll podcast some
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  Speaker 5: booze news.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: What we're going to do tomorrow, initially, there's going to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: be no Funston.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We're changing that.
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  Speaker 5: Because people need their advice.
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  Speaker 2: 1.30 tomorrow, we're going to have Funston on for a
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  Speaker 2: very short segment. We'll do a few texts, and I'll
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: throw a few questions away, general terms. So you'll get
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: a Funston Fix tomorrow at 1.30. No phone calls.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Just a wind sprint of a Funston Fix tomorrow at 1.30.
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  Speaker 2: Brought to you by Georgetown Brewing.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: You'll get your fantasy fix. It just won't be the.
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  Speaker 2: Way we do it every week. So at noon tomorrow,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: you can send your text at 49451 to Funston. We'll
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  Speaker 2: get a couple answered. I'll ask a couple. There's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of general questions we can just have answered.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and if the.
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  Speaker 6: Regular callers, just send in a text this time. You're
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: just not going to be on the phone.
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  Speaker 2: And then we'll make sure we tell people that that
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  Speaker 2: segment will be podcast as well, so the people tuning
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  Speaker 2: in to go, where's Funston at? Yeah. They can listen
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  Speaker 2: to the podcast later.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so Mike and Edmonds, you don't have to worry
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  Speaker 5: about being a little late tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: Don't make us worry that something happened to you.
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  Speaker 3: Nope, don't do that.
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  Speaker 5: Just send us a text. Let us know you're okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't do that. That'd be bad. All right, 49451,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: that's tomorrow. One more time, 49451, fact or 49451, fiction.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley picking the Giants, a home underdog, plus one and
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  Speaker 2: a half against New Orleans.
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  Speaker 8: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: joins us next. All right, again, tomorrow, early.
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  Speaker 1: Tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Early release for school tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Early tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Early tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: That means the weekend unofficially starts earlier.
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  Speaker 3: It does.
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  Speaker 2: At 1.30 when we have Funston on tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: So what do we have tomorrow? We have Ross Tucker.
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  Speaker 8: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: We have Steve Palazzolo. So that's a lot of NFL talk.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And then instead of the normal 2 o'clock, we'll do
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: a very short segment with Funston at 1.30. And then
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: we'll hand it over to Richard L.
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  Speaker 6: Fane.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Because you know what? This guy is not going to
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: be here. He'll be on an airplane. I will be
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: on an airplane.
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  Speaker 1: Airplane.
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  Speaker 5: West Lafayette.
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  Speaker 3: West Lafayette, Indiana. I technically go into Indianapolis.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, and then the drive? You don't fly into West Lafayette.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Then you jump on a bus?
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: We jump on a car. In a car.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Jump on a car. Are you bringing the honks with you?
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  Speaker 3: No, no. But Craig Hayamoto, who's our longtime stats guy,
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: is getting a car. So he'll be driving us.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have a spotter?
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Elise has a spotter that she hires for every road game.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know who she has lined up for.
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  Speaker 3: So they don't travel the spotter. Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
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  Speaker 3: But this time I do not think yes. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So you, Cam, Elise, and Craig are in the car.
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  Speaker 3: Our engineer, Ashley, who's brand new.
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  Speaker 5: Who's not me.
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  Speaker 3: Not that Ashley. Ashley Boer, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Who I think is young enough to be your daughter.
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  Speaker 5: Ashley, by the way. Thanks for that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's more of a commentary on how young she
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: is versus how old you are.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: But you are getting up there. I will say that.
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I really appreciate that conversation. I've known you for long enough.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Why did that ever become a thing, by the way?
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: What?
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: That you can't talk about how old women are, but
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: you can talk about how old men are.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: That's a good question, Ashley.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't say you couldn't talk about how old I am.
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  Speaker 3: Right, but where did that become a thing? It's rude
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: if you ask a woman her age. It's unsavory. It's rude, right,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: to ask a woman how old she is.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Why is that?
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: There's rules that we don't understand. There's a lot of
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: rules we don't understand. There's a lot about it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of hypocrisy out there, man.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: There really is.
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  Speaker 2: Do you understand?
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: You poor white guys. You have it the worst.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: We do. That's not even what I'm talking about, by
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: the way. I'm talking about just being married.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: There's that, too. We do have it the worst. I
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: was thinking about this the other day just in terms
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: of age, right? So you've been at KJR for how long?
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: 32 years.
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  Speaker 3: 32 years.
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  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: I've been here 20 years now. Right. And you were
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: working here 20 years ago.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: I've been here since 2006, yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: And then I took a break.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: You took a break.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you went to play Christmas music. Went and
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: did the FM thing.
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  Speaker 1: Ran my life.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Did the music thing.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Did the Christmas music, does it start already on that
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  Speaker 2: old place.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: You used to work at? I don't know how early
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: they start.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: I do... Christmas music for a national thing, and we're
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: starting on the 30th of October.
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: For iHeart?
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: No, different.
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  Speaker 3: On the FM side?
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Does iHeart know that?
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, they do. Is it guaranteed human?
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: It is, because I'm there.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: You love that, don't you? You love that guarantee.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: What are we doing?
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Tell people what that is. Tell people what that is.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Thank God.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: We're not AI. Yeah.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: It says that on our little signature. We send an email.
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  Speaker 2: Guaranteed humor.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Although we're using AI.
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: Are we?
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: The only thing we use AI for is text songs.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: I use AI all the time. I use it on
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: social media to craft a tweet. And if you get
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: pissed off, blame AI. Is it Grok or whatever it's called?
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I didn't do it.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Grok.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: We used it for texticles every week. Texticles.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Texticles.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Text.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Well, we did textimonials.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Texticles.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a music.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: When did you start texticles?
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: When I joined the show.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: That's kind of crass.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Right when Ashley joined. That's when we started doing it.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: So we can't talk about how old Ashley is, but
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: we can talk about testicles.
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: I didn't say you couldn't talk about how old I was.
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: It was just that you said I was getting up there.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I went, ouch.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: You are.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: I know, but I just.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Are you 60 yet?
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Almost. Almost.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: My daughter just turned 12 last week. God darn.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I know. Unbelievable, man.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: I know. Tell me about it.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: The most amazing thing is that Mark actually helped create that.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: And that's unbelievable.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: That cute little girl. Yeah.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: And then he stuck around.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, the guy can't even stand up.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: And he stuck around.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: That's actually the most amazing.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: So this is the last time I'm going to see
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: you before the game tomorrow.
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I'll be back on Tuesday because we're at the Queen
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: on Monday. What's the, what's the code? Is it code
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: red tomorrow? Do you like that?
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I heard you say that, that if the Hawks
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: lose this game tomorrow, their chances of winning the division
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: are in the code red category.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Code red.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: If they lose tomorrow.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Is that right? Okay.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk about that.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about you behind your back.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what? I love that. Tell people how
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: dumb you are. I love giving you topics every day.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't happen very often.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: What would you do if I didn't give you something
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: every day to talk about?
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: I would have like one segment per week where I
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: had no idea what I was doing.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: You would go, AI, what's my topic today? That's right.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Hey, you know what? There's people doing it in the business.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Are there? I mean, your school's doing it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: For God's sakes. But so are 250 other schools. Oh, well.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: So if it's okay for them, it's okay for you?
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: All 250 of us? Didn't your parents ever tell you that?
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: If Bobby jumps off a bridge, you're doing the same.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Thing, Ian.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: Depends on if Bobby thought it was.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Fun or not.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Ask your buddy Becktold if they're doing it over there.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: They're not at all.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: They're guaranteed human.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I'll see you, man.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: All right, bye.