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The Dirty Barista: From Coffee to Digital Creation · Story Scaling

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Story Scaling by PodcastVideoscom, where creators share the truth behind the content, the grind and the growth.
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, friends and family, I am Bang with Story Scaling and we are here with a good friend of mine.
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: Serenthia, aka Wren, aka the Dirty Barista.
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: Serenthia aka Wren, thank you for joining us.
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: So, cynthia aka Ren, thank you for joining us.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Your your list is long.
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: You are a author, digital creator, a mom, a barista, a rapper.
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: No, that's true, that's true, that's true.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: My first question is what shows up for you first, cynthia, the storyteller, or the barista with the good comebacks?
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: That is a very interesting question.
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like they're separate, and sometimes I feel like they're all at one right but I would say the person that shows up first is most likely just me at my core, which is like crazily enough, like the dirty barista, but I'm just ready to go all the time and so I would say probably the barista this is thanks for being here.
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: Thanks, for having me.
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about that.
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: If someone scrolled through your Instagram no context, just started scrolling, what would you hope that that would take away?
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: um, I would hope that they would think I'm entertaining and funny, because that's exactly how I think about myself yeah hopefully they would feel like okay, she knows what she's doing with the drink or two you know, something like that.
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: That's what I hope, that's what I think happens, based off of just it happening.
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and people like seeing it, like, oh, you make drinks, now people don't know the depth of which I can make a drink which I don't necessarily like show as well.
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: It's not like a hidden talent or something like that.
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: It's just like I kind of just stick to the two main things on the page yeah but I can make a lot of things.
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I would say we're friends, right yeah, I would say that you said we're friends like and I ain't gonna lie like I didn't know the level to which you were when it came to making you know drinks and stuff like that.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: And so what is a barista for somebody who doesn't know?
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: a barista is technically a person that they will.
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: Typically they're talked about as people that make coffee.
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: So, like at your local coffee, the people making your drink would be a barista.
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: But really a barista is anyone.
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: That's like working behind a bar.
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: Bartenders used to be called baristas, now they're called bartenders.
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: Like if you were working at a juice bar, the people making your juices, they would be baristas.
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: They're working behind the bar.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: So I say I'm a barista in every sense of the word because I can make so many drinks behind bar.
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: But typically it's referred to as coffee, which I have a long background in.
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: So that's where the barista part came in, because I started off as an actual barista, give us your drink making resume.
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: You know, like you, if, if you will, you got a little coffee in there.
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: You also can make like alcoholic drinks and so, like you know, this is your time to like, pop it real quick, like you know what makes you, what makes you a little different than than you know.
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: This is your time to like, pop it real quick, like you know, we'll make sure we'll make sure a little different than me.
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: You know I'm trying to whip up a drink like.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: we're both creatives.
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: Now Come on.
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: We both whip up, we both cook.
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: I started off with coffee.
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: This was in 2012.
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: And I was just a regular barista.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: And then in 2019, I was still in coffee.
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: I had tried to leave a couple of times.
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: Didn't happen.
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: You started in 2012?
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: .
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: I actually started pregnant.
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: My water broke at the coffee shop.
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: That's just a little fun side story.
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: But I wasn't ever really creative with drinks.
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: More than anything, I was just learning how to make drinks at that time but then in 2019, I started working for another company that encouraged me to do barista competition.
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: Now, before that company, the one I ended up doing it with, another company, did encourage me and say I could, but I just didn't know that much about it yet like.
• 3:59
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what barista competition was yeah and when I did actually decide to do it, a new category had been created Coffee and Good Spirits which is coffee cocktails.
• 4:10
  Speaker 2: And I didn't know really that much about being a bartender, but I had thought to myself like if I could be a barista, I'm pretty sure I could be a bartender.
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: It's pretty much the same skill, right.
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: And so I decided that I'm gonna do that competition, and that really opened up my mind to cocktails.
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: But more than that, it really showed me how creative you can be with drinks, sure, and not just like alcohol, but coffee as well, which is brown, so it's like hard to mix with.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: Everything turns its color, it's strong, it's overpowering.
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: So learning how to use it is like a choir singing quietly.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: You know, and just like, takes a certain level of finesse, and I didn't yeah, yeah, yeah, there's some bars right there so.
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: So I learned that in this process and um the first part of the competition that I did, I did win it, and then the second part, I got sixth place in the country.
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: But um covid, like everything else kind of like it derailed the whole competition space for me.
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: But I did learn a lot about myself as a creative because I had before, like in my past, like I've been really into like poetry, and like I wanted to be like honey, I wanted to dance, like I thought I was going to have a career in music and that's not a sad story.
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: God knew what he was doing.
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: No, I was singing the cardio and I'm like, how did I used to do this?
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: And so, um, I thought I was gonna have a career in music and I thought that's where like my creativity like stopped, because I can't draw, I don't do sports.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: I did do bowling in high school and I did do kind of okay at that, but like I just I didn't really do any of that stuff, so I didn't really know where my creativity lied yeah and so um drinks became that outlet, which was really interesting, because a lot of people don't drink coffee and a lot of people don't drink cocktails, but a lot of people also do.
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: But me being me, I want to serve everybody right and so I start learning about other stuff too.
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: I um learn about tea, of course, which is kind of inherent with coffee, and then, um, a few years ago, I learned how to make kombucha.
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: I learned how to make cocktails out of tea and mocktails out of tea.
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: I went to this training camp with this company that helps, uh, people learn how to do competitions, essentially, and I went to massachusetts for three days and just learned, like, a bunch of cocktail making skills and use those basically to start making a bunch of different types of drinks.
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: I've, like, had to learn about milk.
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: I've had to learn about, um, what else I've had to learn about?
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, now I'm currently learning about just different fruits and how those fruits affect the body I'm learning more about health.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: Now it's it.
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: Just there's a lot of layering to it and my goal is to be able to serve everybody, and so, yeah, I've just kind of had a go at things.
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: I have partnered with companies like Chobani and have made drinks using their milk, and then I learned a lot about milk.
• 6:59
  Speaker 2: Another friend that I know started a oat milk company and I learned more about milk, which is a very big part of coffee, and but learning about milk helped me learn how to incorporate it into cocktails and really anything that I learn how to make that is consumable.
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: Food included is another way for me to learn how to make it into a cocktail like or a coffee drink like.
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: The process of it, that's it look, I'm over here like my mind is blown, because I think it's really neat.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: When you talk to people who are experts in what they do, you know what I mean you aren't just a coffee maker, you aren't just a spirit maker but, like I see on your social media, my daughter wanted a drink for her, you know, birthday or something.
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: Whatever the case may be.
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: She obviously your daughter's 13.
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: She doesn't drink, but, like you, whip her something up, or now she whipped something up because you taught her yeah, and so it was cool to see someone like you with that experience, and so that's dope.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: I think you're very multi-talented, like you said, making drinks.
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, making drinks is a skill, but you also like bring in the, the digital element.
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: You're a digital creator and an author, and so talk about how you went from maybe just making the drinks to like now putting yourself out there and like showcasing that and what's what's more difficult, just maybe like doing competitions and kind of being maybe behind the scenes somewhat, to like now you're in the forefront on your platform and doing the content and stuff like that.
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: Like what's talk about that?
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: I guess?
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: well, I like attention and both those things I get attention from.
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: But, um, when I I wasn't even really, I've always kind of had like this weird mindset of like people want to see me and, um, that they, because of that people, will be drawn to me and come to me and I don't have to put myself out there, like that.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: You've always thought about that, like even growing up, like people want to drawn to me and come to me and I don't have to put myself out there like that.
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: You've always thought about that, even growing up like people want to see me Like.
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: I love it and uh, so I wasn't like.
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: I was just like I'll just be on social media If I go viral, I go viral, probably will, whatever.
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: But wasn't trying.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: It takes more than just thinking that you know you got it like that.
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: Then I actually do something on social media can we pin right there?
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: yeah what I really appreciate what you're saying in terms of like, yeah, I figured I just throw myself out there.
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: It didn't work, like but but you learn quickly that it takes more than that oh yeah what?
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: What does it take?
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: What are some things that you would say, like when I started, I didn't think about strategy, your content calendar, or like all of the things like what are you?
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking about anything at first until I met my current partner, matthew.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: Shout out to matthew well, shout out every general man get a shout out.
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: He was like, basically, like you need to do social media for real and because the small following I had was like really, like you know liking my stuff, I was getting a lot of interaction on my page, like it was just a healthy page it wasn't like growing, but it was just like an active, healthy page yeah, I had a lot of engagement and he was like you need to, um, really take this seriously and do social media like I don't know how.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: And the crazy thing, like I had already had this really nice tripod that I wasn't using.
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: Like that I had a nice phone that I wasn't using.
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: Like that I had all this stuff that I just wasn't using.
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: It was like right there, I didn't have to do anything to even start, but what I learned I had to do more than anything was just study.
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: There was just so much I did not know at all, like I didn't know enough to know the wrong thing.
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: You know, I just didn't know anything.
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: And so listening to people just talk about like content, creating and growing your page and creating a brand, it was all very, very, very, very foreign.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: And so I'm like the best thing to do, I think, is just to try and do it.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: I got cap cut and started editing my videos and I'll go back and look.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like, ok, okay, they're not bad, they're really choppy.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: But you know, the more you use it, you realize, like, the things you can actually do with editing and I found I really enjoy editing.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: But that's not for everybody and that is a lot of why people don't make a lot of content.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: So it takes a lot of editing.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: And I really enjoy that.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: But I also have to learn how to edit.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: I have to do it for hours upon hours.
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: I had to make videos for hours.
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: It takes so much time.
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: It takes time, it takes commitment, it takes just a little bit of money yeah it's worth the investment to get like a good iphone or a good like handheld camera, but really an iphone or whatever android will do.
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: But it just takes a lot of consistency is it not mind-blowing the number of hours you can put into like a 30 second clip?
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: It's crazy and it's like this.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: This might hit, or it might get like 32 people to look at it.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: You never know.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: Usually I kind of save the segment to the end.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: But I'm curious, like for that person that's wanting to start taking social media seriously.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: Like said, like maybe they got a hundred followers, a thousand followers, and maybe their page has been consistent over the past like year, but hasn't seen significant growth.
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: Like it's cool being afraid, because I've watched you go from just doing it having a good time to like no, there's some markers of like a thousand, five thousand, and you know you're continuing to say so.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: What would you say to that person that's like trying to get it out the mud and start being serious?
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: Like what are the three or so tips that you would have for that person?
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: They're going to be cliche because just because they're true and it's it sucks that you want to hear something different to be like.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: That's going to spark me and ignite me to do it Now that's all I needed to hear, but really it's just doing it.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: You have to just do it because you have to figure out your style, you have to figure out what your audience likes, you have to figure out what your aesthetic draws to you, because you might have to change what you do, and I had to change, like, the angle of my camera, because I noticed that sometimes when I'm filming this way, I don't get a lot of views.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: When I film this way, I get way more interaction.
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, and so it's just like you have to be flexible, you have to just do it.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: You have to get over hearing yourself talk, seeing yourself do stuff.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: It's like you think it's weird, but that's all people know of you, right?
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: So it's like nobody's thinking it's weird.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: That's how you sound, yeah.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: That's how you look.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: That's just it.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: People don't look weird.
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like you look like yourself.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: You look like you look.
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: That's just how you look.
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: And so just doing it and I mean that's, I would say that and not being afraid to spend some money like you don't have to spend a ton of money, but spend some money on ads, spend some money so people could come to your page.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: Like you don't have to do it all the time, but just get the people to your page.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if so, I'm not gonna be the video.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: You put money on that like pops, but at some point, people that just so happen to stumble upon your page before might see it again, and it I mean eventually, after doing it for so long, something's gonna happen what are we saying?
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: fifteen dollars, twenty dollars?
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: You're talking about a hundred dollars, ten dollars a week yeah, if you want to to.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: You can do $10 a day.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: Whatever you I mean really whatever you want, whatever you got.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever you got, I would say at least $10.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: You can do it for however you know you want to do it, sometimes I'll just be able to do 10.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I've done 100.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: Like it just depends.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: And I don't do it all the time.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Every now and then you throw, slap a little money on there.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let people see your page.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: Let people see it, put yourself out there when did you start to notice that you were seeing some growth, like, in a way that's like oh man, something's happening.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: I mean like when you start noticing that momentum uh, pretty soon after I started taking it seriously, pretty soon, because it's like um, I'll post a dumb video, or at least something I think is dumb.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: I look I'm like I got 1200 views.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because when you're used to getting like 100 views, 200 views, 300 views, like your people, you know that's close to you, like it right.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Um, it's like, okay, that's fine, but when it's like 1200 strangers yeah people you don't know interacting with you.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Now it's like oh huh, interesting people are interested in this.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people with you.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Now it's like oh, interesting People are interested in this.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: People care about this, and it's not even that they may not just care.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Some people might just arguing you know, but it's like people that don't know.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: You are seeing this.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: And that's crazy, right?
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: You're making them feel something, something.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: And then when you hit you know 10,000, it's like that's wow, 10 000 people saw this yeah all right, get a hundred thousand.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: It's like okay, and you have videos with a hundred thousand views.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: You have a hundred thousand views, two hundred thousand views, five thousand views, a million views, it's like it's just.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: It's so strange because then people that you don't know but are around you know who you are which I know you've experienced for sure.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, um, but I noticed immediately yeah, and even if, like there's sometimes where it'll go completely down, like I'll have like videos back to back to back 5 000 views and my next video gets 700 views.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: It's like that.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Lose them, that lose my audience well, how do you?
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: that's good, like that.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: I think that's the the reality that we all experience.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Like man, this, I thought this was it.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not popping because it only got like, how do you, how do you keep fighting through those moments where it might not be just one 700, you might get a string of 700, just oh for sure you know and so.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: So how do you continue to show up, even when it's like dang?
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Am I losing it?
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I like my videos.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: I like my own content.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: I enjoy my content.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll go back through my page and watch my videos.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm true these videos are good, it's just having a bad day.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Are you the person to watch your?
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: story open over again.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I don't watch my story, but I watch my videos.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I watch my reels for sure.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I sometimes I just have an rp.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I'm just listening to the song like that's a good video.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Right there I'm like this is it's just having a bad day.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: My videos are good but, there's been times I look at my videos.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like well I mean, I see why that's not.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: You know the best and then I just fix it.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll take the same video and download it and re-edit it and then post it again.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Like just because I'm like that was a good video but it could be better.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Now that I know more, I know I can edit it differently, but I mean I just get those moments like I like my content.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: And being okay with changing it if I need to, but I like my content.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Pharrell says never take it personal.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Take it seriously and take care of it for real.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: You know we'll get for real some of that, you know.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: But I hear you saying that in your response is like, don't be too big to say like, nah, this might not hit the same, like re-download, re-edit, re-upload.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Like you're just getting reps in, yeah, yeah and it's your.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: It's now your resume, like when people first meet me, you know I send them straight to my instagram now because I'm like that'll give you everything you need to know.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: That's my resume and so people just can scroll through and scroll through so I might make as many videos as possible, because it might not get a lot of views and it doesn't have to.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: You just have to get the right views.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: So that's what you're, that's what you're doing it for.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: That's good, yeah, when did you go from realizing like oh, oh, man, it's not just a bunch of random people, like I'm building a community like?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: When did you notice that?
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Was it early on and did that come a little bit later?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: it definitely came later.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I've realized it in like moments where, like someone will ask me to do um an event that I'm like, oh me yeah.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, that's really cool.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Like you asking me to do a bang in the gang.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like I really enjoy that.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I look forward to it every year, and so it's like you available this year?
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I am available this year, as long as it's not on september 25th.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm available, but I know you're talking about potentially in that time of year, so just stay away from that date, okay, but um, really, it was actually pretty recently yeah it was really recently, like a few months ago.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I was at aldi in bentonville, which I live 30 miles from bentonville and um, I was just bebopping through aldi and the lady stopped me and she was like hey, are you the dirty barista?
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: that's like wow, I was with my kids.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: So I was like, yes, I am see.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Look y'all, I told y'all they know right, they know now they're like.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: We googled you, we saw I'm like okay, and then I was like, yeah, I am.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: She's like, oh my gosh, I follow you.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: My name is you know?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say your name but you know I follow you, I really enjoy your videos and da, da, da.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: And she was like hey, this is done.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh yeah, we met at aldi.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I remember you.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: And she was just telling me you know, I have cancer, I have breast cancer.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: This is like a cancer story, everybody's a cancer story, but this is a cancer story.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: She's like I have breast cancer and I'm having to get a double mastectomy and I really want you to make drinks for my like farewell breast party.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I was like what?
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: And she's like I just really love your drinks and you just seem so fun and nice and I'm like okay, so we like had dinner together and meet her and her partner and we planned the party, brought the drinks.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: It was super fun and I did it for free, but she still paid me, which I really did not want her to, but she did.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: And I was like that's just so kind of you because what you like just recognizing me and asking me to do this, like you don't know how much of a payment that was to me, right, and she was just so kind and I was like this is, this is cool.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Like drinks can really change things that's wild it is wild yeah, but how cool yeah, I'm just on the internet acting a fool out over here do you?
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: do you think about yourself?
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I, like you said, I'm a creative too and so like it's interesting because it's hard to view myself, like people view me.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just, I'm bang, you know, I'm just your normal like friend that you see hanging out, whatever the case may be.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Like, do you see yourself as serenity, or are you like, nah, I'm the dirty barista.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Like I'm really like that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Like do you see yourself as, through the same lens as people see you?
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I think that I can I just don't think I always do.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I have the ability to, because I'm like okay, I, I do, like I understand why people would feel the way that they feel about me.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Some people think I'm really deep, some people think I'm not, and I understand how people could come to those conclusions about me.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: But there's times where I know all of that but I'm still like, oh no, I just feel regular.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know there's better people out there.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know me.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I do do a good job, but it's not all that and it's also a little bit me trying to keep myself humble, like for sure.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Don't think you're all that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: There's always going to be someone.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: That can you know.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Do it better.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: But at the same time I'm like.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I also like the energy of.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I do do this.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: And that's the energy that I want to have about it how important is confidence in what you do?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: very, very very.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: It's some sort of level of confidence.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: You have to have confidence in something.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I've just believed before I was even doing this for a long time that confidence can take you so far, and I've just done it like if you tell a lot of confidence, people are gonna believe you.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: That's just that's what it is yeah and so confidence up it.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Just it does take confidence yeah and unfortunately, some people have a hard time with that, and it always hurts me when I see people struggle with confidence, because you can always see something in someone that they should feel proud about or confident in and they just can't see it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: It's like I just want to shake you if only you knew yeah, and I did have a friend one time tell me I wish you could see you, how I see you, and I was like, huh, can I do I?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: And that's when I realized I can.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I just don't sometimes yeah and that just wish that.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: For other people too that have like not a lot of confidence, I'm like oh, just, you could pick anything.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: You can even pretend, like truly pretend, and it's just like whatever yeah, you just have to have confidence, and you know that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know that, no, that's real, that's real.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I think some of the people that we perceive as the most confident, though, sometimes struggle with it the most.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: And I resonate with what you said.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: You can do anything with confidence.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer that that's 90% of anything you do, because there's some people out there in my field that, like, they don't make great music but they're confident, yeah, and so they do shows and they sell out and they you know what I mean Like so, yeah, that's, I resonate with that.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: What's a misconception about content creation that drives you nuts?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: That we're not in the moment.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I think when people see you with your camera out, it's like equivalent to you being in in your phone, and I have had moments where I'm like I had to like I'll look around the camera and like, see, I'm like it is a different view.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: But I'm just in a moment, in a different way.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I'm in a moment where I'm thinking about how I want to relive the moment and a lot of people are just in the moment experiencing it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: But I'm experiencing it twice at once and so I think that that because then it makes it embarrassing to do it's like how am I able to think I'm not paying attention or I'm not serious here?
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: But I'm like I need my content.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I need my content and I am in the moment.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I'm enjoying myself.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at everything when some people can bypass stuff.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at everything.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I'm experiencing all the parts, because I need to be able to recount it and document it.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: So that's, I think, is the most biggest misconception.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's real.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: That's real.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: All right question.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Real, all right question.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Would you rather have a reel that does a million views or a dm from janelle monae?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: oh, a dm from janelle monae.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Well, a propositional dm from janelle monae, not just a random.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Hey girl that's fair, because I've gotten that, but I need a conversation.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we need some business to happen.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Janelle Monáe hit her up Hit me up, please.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I'm out here spreading your word, yeah you actually are.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Instagram goes down for 24 hours.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Peace or panic?
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Peace.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I lost my Instagram for a month.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Really how so.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I was trying to be fancy and month really, yeah, I was trying to be fancy and I was like I'm a blue check mark my page, I'm a verify it meta, verify it and I did, and it locked me out of my instagram for a month, trying to verify my identity, even though I got emails like congratulations, your identity has been verified, you have your stuff and stuff set up, or whatever.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I lost it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I did panic, I was crying and I was like this is ridiculous, but at the same time, like I have put a lot of work into this, yeah and so I like justified the crime.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: But then was, like you also can't, like crying's not gonna solve it well, now it's like you get gigs and bookings off your instagram.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: It's part of your livelihood now exactly.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: but I had another one, my business, instagram rendition rendition, coffee cocktails, my business.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: And so I was like, ok, this is probably just a time for me to pour into this page.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: And I did, and I did grow.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: So that was good, and I did get more bookings while I was doing that, so that was good, and so I truly believe that things happen for my benefit and not my detriment.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: And so if that were to happen, I'm like there, something that needs else needs to happen in this moment, and it's like my fancy way of everything happens for a reason.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: We're sick of hearing that let me see.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Uh, self-publish because you are an author.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, shout out your books.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Tell people what I can get on the dirty barista, which is a cocktail recipe book.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Every song is um themed after a janelle monae song from the album dirty computer and sweet, which is a romantic horror novel rated pg r rated r.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Smitty smitty was telling me about the book.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, I ain't got to read it yet.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Like he gave me, he like bro it's fire, so I'm excited to read it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Yet Like he gave me, he like bro it's fire, so I'm excited to check it out.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: But we can call it what it is it's a little R vibes.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: It's a little.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: R vibes.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: But it is a short novel.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: A short novel.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Both are on Amazon Perfect.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, so self-publish a trilogy that cult fans obsess over, okay.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Or get picked up by a major publisher with edits that you despise.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, the first one.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I would rather have a cult following than sell myself to the book industry.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: When I was publishing my book I learned that the book industry is so much like the music industry.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: There's like just three main groups, that kind of trickle down to everybody else and you have to audition to get an agent and then your agent has to pick you and then you got they gotta like promote you and they gotta get these cuts and it could take forever.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: You can't bitch about you good?
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: okay, yeah, we're here now, you know you're good you can't complain about the edits, and so, um, I'm like no, I don't, I don't want to do that, I'd rather have a cult following, because then I'll also get to talk to the people that really enjoy my book more, and I like talking about the art, I like talking about what it is, and so if I can do that, I would rather do that yeah now it can't, would I like it in barnes and noble.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Yes for sure, but whatever, yeah, um last question what do you hope that content creation can do for you?
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I hope that it can open doors for me to do bigger things to.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I would love to like do tv someday, like where I'm making shows.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Um, I would hope that it would open me to meeting a lot of different people.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: My favorite thing about coffee when I first started was that, like, no matter where you go, somebody will offer you a cup of coffee, even in other countries.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: It's like it's just always like a middle ground, and I just enjoy that about it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: So that's what my page does for me, and I really truly hope it does continue to do that.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I like making drinks for people, yeah, and so I want to continue to do that from this page.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I want more people to trust me to make drinks for them.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Where can people find you?
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: On Instagram and TikTok and YouTube at the Dirty Barista.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Are you good under pressure?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, we got three minutes to make a drink.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Wait a second, wait a second Okay.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Three, two, one.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Three minutes.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: This is my coffee competition.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: So I know that you're a tequila guy, but I did not bring tequila this time.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I brought rum, but it's a really smooth rum.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to let you choose your adventure a little bit.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I got a homemade granite which is pomegranate, brown sugar, vanilla syrup, and I just have brown sugar as well.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: What do you think you made it?
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Then why didn't you say Okay, I also have a mix of orange and strawberry juice that I juice myself.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, Dang all of this homemade, Not all of it not all of it.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Most of it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Most of it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to pour that for you.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: We're going to season it up just a little bit with this syrup.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, what kind of syrup?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: This is a pomegranate syrup, also known as grenadine, and if I fumble around, that's not because of the pressure, it's just.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: That's just how I operate yeah, I've seen you move up drinks before I know, I know how it goes we're gonna add a little bit of wine okay just a couple ounces, and then the rum.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: usually you want to make sure that your cocktails have a citrus, a sugar and then the rum.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Usually you want to make sure that your cocktails have a citrus, a sugar and then a liquor to kind of balance everything out.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: My citrus is orange.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have orange liqueur, but I added wine, so I won't go that crazy.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: We have ice but this ice has water in it, so it's to strain the water out.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: You thinking about stuff I would have never thought about.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: You always build in the Littleton because you don't want to overfill your cup, and it's easier to overfill your cup when you are using the big side.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: How many more minutes?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: you have one minute and 15 seconds I feel like I'm on food network.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: This is not a fact.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: You really own it right now that's also one of my journeys is to be on Food Network making some where we at you got 45 seconds oh oh, I got way more to change.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: All right, see, I get to the catching stuff.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: All right, you made it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: With 19 seconds to spare, you got a speech.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: What's the name of this?
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: This is going to be Story Scaling.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Hey, I like that.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm tagging food network.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Love it, that's fire.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: This is the official drink of Story Scaling.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Scaling, I am banged with serenity.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Uh, um, I'm not quite sure what our permissions are on this show, so, uh, thank you so much for listening to story scaling.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Outro Music.