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Unsigned518 - Episode 150 - Lucio Barbarino · Unsigned518

• 0:01
  Speaker A: He was born on a Saturday in 73. He loves Far Cry music. The 19th jabbing in the dazzle jazz. It's motherfucking Andy scolding. Look at motherfucker. Cause here it comes. Andy scaring his orange hat.
• 0:27
  Speaker B: Welcome to unsigned 518. I am here with Lucio Barbarino. How's it going, man?
• 0:32
  Speaker C: It's going all right, man. Thanks for having me.
• 0:33
  Speaker B: Yeah, thanks for. Thanks for coming out. And we just, you know, we won't go into what we were talking about. We just had a really fun, fun conversation where we got. We got our system. Yeah. We got to know each other on a level that, you know, usually conversations I don't have with people till I've known them for several years. So I guess that says a lot for you, because we met about eight minutes ago.
• 0:55
  Speaker C: One of those guys people open up to, you know.
• 0:57
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And I just spilled my fucking gut. But anyway, we are not here to talk about the controversial shit that we were just discussing. We're here to talk about music. And, you know, you reached out to me. I can't remember, a couple weeks ago or whatever, and you were just like, you know, hey, I'd like to come on the show. And I was saying before we got rolling is that I don't really do any research other than I looked at your social.
• 1:21
  Speaker C: You look at my Wikipedia page?
• 1:23
  Speaker B: I did not look at your Wikipedia. Fuck. I couldn't even pronounce your name correctly to, like, 40 seconds seconds ago. But, you know, I want you to be able to tell your story with music or your story in general.
• 1:36
  Speaker C: Right.
• 1:36
  Speaker B: In a. In an unbridled way where you're, you know, you're not. Not answering specific questions that I'm giving. So I guess really just kind of start. Start rattling.
• 1:49
  Speaker C: Just start rattling.
• 1:49
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 1:50
  Speaker C: Just cut me off or interject. Go for it. Music, you know, Isn't it great?
• 1:55
  Speaker B: It is.
• 1:56
  Speaker C: Love music. Yeah. I mean, as far as I can remember back, you know, being a kid, I love music and played violin, was kind of like my first instrument. Elementary school, like, kind of begrudgingly on some level, you know? But I love music, and they chose me. We did, like, one of those little. They did. They used to do this. I don't know if they did it with you. They. They do, like, little tests. They'd test you on saxophone and violin or whatever, and they'd see if you had, like, a particular.
• 2:22
  Speaker B: I don't remember if they tested. I think it was like, they let us, like, kind of go around the room and, and around. Yeah, I chose drums when I was.
• 2:31
  Speaker C: Of course, but that's the thing everyone would choose. Her saxophone was cool, but I was.
• 2:36
  Speaker B: I was the asthmatic kid. So like saxophone would have been my first instrument, but I didn't have the lung capacity. Yeah, so would. Or any, any air instruments were out for me.
• 2:50
  Speaker C: But yeah, so I played violin. But, you know, my dad, you know, played guitar and he was like in a band when he was younger. I don't know, I don't know how serious they were actually. So my parents are from Sicily. So my dad was very dark, dark hair and all his friends were. But the name of his band was Ibiondi, which means the Blondes. It was just like a joke. I don't know. So, yeah, I don't know how serious they were, but you know, my dad loved music. We had a lot of records growing up. My mom was, you know, into music too, and lots of records and stuff. You know, like folky, American, folky sort of stuff. A lot of Italian stuff. But yeah, so I played violin and then my dad had the guitar always around, so, you know, I was always like. I'm sure I was like plucking the guitar like, you know, when I was a kid and. But not, not quite yet. I wouldn't say I was playing the guitar, I was just like messing around. But yeah, my older brother played guitar and eventually I picked it up like more seriously. Took a few lessons here and there, but pretty much just self taught. I mean, I took, I kind of took a few lessons later on when I was already, you know, decent or whatever. But yeah, then started playing guitar more seriously. I had a band in high school called Rubik's Grooves. Total high school band name. But yeah, that was like, it was like funky stuff. I was really into Dave Matthews in high school and so I was pretty influenced by him and. But yeah, we did mostly original songs that I wrote. But yeah, it was a three piece. It was cool.
• 4:21
  Speaker B: Did you like? Cause I always, or I've said on the show before, certainly like the way you said, you know, you picked it up, you plucked, you fucked around, you kind of like. And then you took some lessons. I've always said that that's the way to go.
• 4:35
  Speaker C: That's a better way to do it.
• 4:36
  Speaker B: Because starting, you know, almost starting like with the fundamentals could almost be a hindrance because you don't have that experimentation that you need, you know, you need the experimentation.
• 4:50
  Speaker C: It's more organic. Yeah.
• 4:52
  Speaker B: So I like to like, you know, you fumble. You are A foolish amateur. You start getting some chords, you start doing some stuff. Your technique is fucking terrible. You're holding the guitar off and then you learn some stuff, and then that tightens that up. But you already have the creativity and experimentation.
• 5:08
  Speaker C: Totally. It's like how you. You learn a language. You don't start taking, you know, language lessons when you're a kid. You just get immersed in. You, Right. You know, find your own little, like, pathways of how you learn.
• 5:19
  Speaker B: And plus the, like, the willingness to. Not to be good at something. Yeah, Like, I've always, like, totally, you know, always had that. I lacked that fear of being foolish looking. Like, I would always be like, I'm gonna look like an idiot, but I'm gonna do it. And then eventually I'll get better at it.
• 5:35
  Speaker C: Yeah. I kind of actually remember, like, the first song, quote unquote, I. I put wrote on guitar. It was all open strings. And me and my younger brother still kind of joke about it once in a while, like, oh, that song I wrote was sick, man. But so, yeah, Rubik's grooves. And then, you know, went to college. I played bass in a band called Bottomless Salad. I went to Ithaca college. Bottomless Salad, that was a fun band. We were. I wouldn't call us a good band, but we were a fun band. We were like a fun band at parties and stuff like that. Yeah. And then continued playing. I lived in New Jersey after college and did a few gigs here and there, but never really in a band. Wrote some music and recorded some early stuff. Moved to New York again. Still continue to do here and there, little solo gigs, but nothing. Nothing crazy. So really, I haven't been in a band since high school. Like, well, no college when I played bass. But I haven't been in a band singing and playing my own music since high school.
• 6:37
  Speaker B: And is that something that you want to like?
• 6:39
  Speaker C: Yeah, totally. And actually recently I've been putting out feelers. I placed a few ads, and yesterday I actually played with a bassist and a drummer. So. Yeah, and it went pretty well. I think for the first time, it was cool.
• 6:51
  Speaker B: And that's one of the things. When I first started this podcast, I really wanted to have that be a component of. Of it. Like, people need connecting people. Yeah, people need. And you know, the Metroland where we're always, like, thinking of new things that we could do and one of the things that we were just talking about and, you know, this is.
• 7:10
  Speaker C: Right.
• 7:10
  Speaker B: I mean, I guess I'm saying it for everybody here, but this is like, unofficial and not like, not being implemented yet, but it is. Has been discussed. Is having, like, a classified section that's just musicians looking for musicians.
• 7:25
  Speaker C: And then do romance, too, while you're at it.
• 7:27
  Speaker B: Yeah. That's not. Who gives a shit about. About romance, you know, Like. But, like, I would love to have, like, something like that where you could be like, hey, you know, this is what I do. These are my influences. This is kind of what I'm looking for. And those. I bet you those connections would happen so fast, and it would fill in. Like, think of how many new fucking bands could be created right now if people just knew who to reach out to.
• 7:56
  Speaker C: I think it's a great idea. Like, especially in print, something in front of you, people are actually reading, taking the time. Like, there's so much noise on these Facebook groups, and it's, like, hard to get anyone's attention.
• 8:06
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 8:06
  Speaker C: People don't want to click and listen to your music. Like, I don't know.
• 8:08
  Speaker B: And even though, like, you know, print is, I mean, they say dead, like, you know, they said that about vinyl.
• 8:15
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 8:15
  Speaker B: The excitement that people have shown for that physical newspaper. And we're gonna put it out every month.
• 8:22
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 8:23
  Speaker B: Last Friday of every month, we'll have a physical edition. But people have been so psyched for it.
• 8:28
  Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
• 8:28
  Speaker B: And I think it's that, you know, there's something a certain. Yeah. Tangible. There's like a certain. I don't want to say nobility, but I guess, like, kind of like, you know, if you're sitting at a bar and you're just looking at your phone, then you're just everybody. But if you're sitting at a bar and you've got a newspaper. Refined.
• 8:49
  Speaker C: You're. You're.
• 8:50
  Speaker B: You know, you're. It's a different thing. And, I mean, I guess that does sound, like, fucking stupid and elitist, but, like, I just, you know, I'm an old man. I think it's cool. I think that the newspaper is also.
• 9:02
  Speaker C: Like, a little more commitment. If you're a person who would place an ad, like, it shows a little more commitment and you're more serious. You know what I mean?
• 9:08
  Speaker B: Right.
• 9:08
  Speaker C: Slapdash. You know, everyone can post on Facebook in two seconds or whatever.
• 9:12
  Speaker B: Yeah. And plus, it's something that you see, like, you know, and I'm a social media guy. Like, that's what I do for a day job, and, like, that's what I do for Metroland. And, like, that's, like, my world that I live in. But, like, I like the tangibility because it's the same every time.
• 9:29
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 9:29
  Speaker B: Like, if you think about it, if you're on, you know, a social media or something and you're looking at like, what's in front of you is going to change constantly, even if you're going to the same location, you're going to see different ads constantly. Whereas this.
• 9:42
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 9:43
  Speaker B: It's the same.
• 9:44
  Speaker C: Right. Thing.
• 9:44
  Speaker B: You're looking at the same thing.
• 9:47
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 9:47
  Speaker B: It's going to be that absorption and like.
• 9:49
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:50
  Speaker B: Well, there's my fucking. I told you there'd be tangents. I was like, well, there's my dad. Short copy of Metroland. Yeah.
• 9:57
  Speaker C: Pick it up. It's hot off the.
• 10:00
  Speaker B: I have a copy if you want to take.
• 10:01
  Speaker C: Take a new one.
• 10:03
  Speaker B: The mo. There's only one issue out now. Yeah.
• 10:06
  Speaker C: Oh, is that the first issue?
• 10:07
  Speaker B: That's the first issue. I didn't know that. Second issues coming out day after Thanksgiving.
• 10:12
  Speaker C: Oh, sweet. Oh, I already have it then. I have it at home.
• 10:14
  Speaker B: That's issue one, man.
• 10:16
  Speaker C: Cool. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I found your name or whatever.
• 10:18
  Speaker B: Oh, no. Yeah.
• 10:19
  Speaker C: And got in touch. Yeah, yeah, totally. Yep.
• 10:21
  Speaker B: See, it works. You know, and, you know, now when you get a band together, I'll. I'll get you some band members. Then you can be like, oh, it's all because of the newspaper.
• 10:30
  Speaker C: Right.
• 10:30
  Speaker B: It's amazing. So when, you know, going back to, like, when you were first writing songs, did you find, like, not having that outlet like you said? You were mostly like, you were like, living your life and just like playing and writing a song? Do you find that's like a freeing, almost cathartic experience that just happens to put out good songs?
• 10:55
  Speaker C: Wait, you mean, like if. Because I wasn't planning on other people.
• 11:00
  Speaker B: Hearing, you know, you're writing songs, like, for yourself. Yeah, because I. I find that, like, writing songs that you're like, nobody's ever going to hear this.
• 11:10
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 11:11
  Speaker B: It's almost like, oh, wow. That actually ended up being really good because I didn't have the. The pressure of how is it going to be perceived?
• 11:19
  Speaker C: I guess. I guess I do always have in the back of my mind, how will this perceive? Like, I want. I want to show people. Yeah. So it's. It's. I don't really. Yeah. I write for myself. Totally. I mean, I would do it and if I lived in a vacuum and, you know, no one else was ever going to hear it. But yeah, I do definitely want to share it and I think it's always at least in the back of my mind and also another Thing is like a little bit of tangent for me is that I. I love music and I do different types of music. Like I've recorded. I used to make hip hop beats. I've got like a bunch of hip hop albums out. I've done like film score sort of music. I've done like video game chiptune music. So that's been kind of a thing in a way I love. It's great. It's me. I mean, of course I love doing it, but in a way it's been. I've been a little bit scattershot all over the place to not. And not focusing on this like, you know, songwriting, folk music, whatever. You know, I call it singer songwriter music. So yeah, that's been an aspect of my overall music career, I guess that I've been. I've been all over the place and most people wouldn't know that, I guess, but.
• 12:24
  Speaker B: But I mean that I would. I love diversity in music because it then shows like a passion for music.
• 12:31
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 12:31
  Speaker B: You know, like all kinds of music. And it is difficult, I think, to spread yourself across different genres because it's difficult to be in one genre, you know what I mean? To like put something out, but to like go outside of that.
• 12:47
  Speaker C: Yeah, it's.
• 12:47
  Speaker B: I mean, it's.
• 12:48
  Speaker C: And then of course, inevitably it's going to influence each other. Like me making hip hop beats might influence my folk rock music a tiny bit, you know, like. Or, you know, like definitely like the film score stuff. Like there's some strings on my newest album, the Blue Evenings, available on all your streaming platforms. Did you like that? My little advertising voice?
• 13:08
  Speaker B: It was fantastic.
• 13:10
  Speaker C: Yeah. So like, there's a few songs that have like strings and are a little more, you know, classic, not classical, but the strings are there in support of the, you know.
• 13:19
  Speaker B: And I love your taste. Is it?
• 13:22
  Speaker C: No, it's all like midi bass or whatever.
• 13:24
  Speaker B: That's cool.
• 13:24
  Speaker C: Although I do, I do want to get a violin. I've been thinking.
• 13:27
  Speaker B: I tried to play like when I was younger, you know, in my, like early 20s or whatever, I would just. I wanted to try new shit. And like, I bought violin once.
• 13:37
  Speaker C: Did you?
• 13:38
  Speaker B: And I was like, I'm going to. I'm going to learn how to play the violin. And I like, I really put in like an effort. I really tried.
• 13:47
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 13:47
  Speaker B: And I could not.
• 13:49
  Speaker C: No, nothing.
• 13:50
  Speaker B: Like, oh my God. I was like, I don't know if I made one sound on that that sounded good. So I think we should play a song now. I know you brought a guitar so we could either, like, play something off one of the albums or we could play something live. Which one do you want to do?
• 14:06
  Speaker C: Yeah, like what? One of each, maybe? Is that.
• 14:09
  Speaker B: Yeah, we'll do one of each. Which one do you want to do first?
• 14:11
  Speaker C: Well, I can do a song called Ramble. It's on. I'll do that one live.
• 14:15
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 14:16
  Speaker C: Yeah, cool. It's on my new album, the Blue Evenings. It's kind of a. It's a song about two young lovers who just want to get away from it all. Like parents telling them what to do and whatnot. And they kind of, like, want to just run away and see the world.
• 14:30
  Speaker B: All right, cool. So we'll give Lucio just a second to grab his guitar here, and we'll listen to Ramble, and then we'll be right back.
• 14:44
  Speaker A: Follow me down to the river There's a bridge that'll carry us over.
• 14:57
  Speaker C: And.
• 14:58
  Speaker A: If we make it as far as over they'll probably blame the bridge.
• 15:11
  Speaker C: But.
• 15:12
  Speaker A: I've got a head on my shoulders and legs that will walk over boulders and I won't come back till I've seen the world and don't you dare tell us we can't and we'll go on and move on from one town to the next and hold on and stay strong and find a safe place when we need some rest we'll never go back to the old town Wild horses couldn't drag us back we're destined to ramble across the plain Like a train on a railroad track and we'll roll on and hold on we won't have to go in alone we'll stay strong before long we'll find a place to call all alone.
• 17:23
  Speaker C: All right.
• 17:23
  Speaker B: That was Rambo. Lucio Barbarino here live in the unsigned 518 quote unquote studio. Yeah, it's my garage. Everybody knows it's my garage.
• 17:34
  Speaker C: Is this the garage?
• 17:36
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. The doors. Doors. Right there.
• 17:38
  Speaker C: Right there.
• 17:38
  Speaker B: Yeah. No, I just make it. It's called the Dazzle Den because it's pretty dazzling. It's pretty dazzling. And again, I told you it's kind of stripped down because. Yeah, you know, we had gigs and normally there's a lot more instruments in here.
• 17:50
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 17:50
  Speaker B: And it's. It's kind of ready to rock. But you can get in a Ms. Pac man game before you go.
• 17:55
  Speaker C: I might do that.
• 17:55
  Speaker B: Yeah, definitely.
• 17:56
  Speaker C: My aunt. My aunt. Uncle used to have, like, the full size.
• 17:59
  Speaker B: Oh, no way.
• 18:00
  Speaker C: I'm not very good.
• 18:01
  Speaker B: But, I mean, I love that those things Exist, you know, because even though it's not a full size, it's totally. You know, if 13 year old me knew that grown adult me would have a Pac man machine, I'd be like, you shut your mouth. So that one is on the album that is out currently. Yeah. So I guess tell me a little bit about that album.
• 18:28
  Speaker C: So that album I put out at the beginning of 2023 and it's a mix of like some songs that had, you know, were just percolating sort of for a while. And it was actually. It's not like a breakup album, but there was. There was a little romance that went south. I was living in Cape Cod at the time and yeah, I just had a creative burst of, you know, inspiration sort of thing. And yeah, I recorded and played everything on the album and you know, a month or two and it was pretty much, pretty much done except one guy played banjo on one song. But yeah, it was. So it's a mix of like little older songs, fun songs, upbeat, but then also, you know, there's a little, there's a little frustration, there's a little anger, little. Little bits of anger maybe on the album. But also, you know, of hope and like humor. You know, I kind of. Yeah, I think it's sort of like a well rounded album in that way.
• 19:28
  Speaker B: Do you find that like, you know, and I mean, it sounds cliche, you know, like writing is healing or whatever, but like I've personally experienced what you're saying have something that's like super painful that you're like, I'll never get over this shit. You write a song about it, then you're like, oh, no, I'm fine.
• 19:45
  Speaker C: Actually, it's funny, I have a lyric in one, my song that said, I thought I might feel better if I wrote this song, but I was wrong. Yeah, the song Anna. But actually that song is older, but that's another story. But yeah, I mean, I don't know how as a creative person or anybody, I don't know how you had to do something with that. The pain or the ant or whatever it is, it's got to come out one way or another. And if it doesn't, that's, that's bad.
• 20:11
  Speaker B: It's bad. And it, you know, and it's bad. Not even just like in a like mental health way, but like it'll fuck with you physically.
• 20:18
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 20:18
  Speaker B: That's why people have heart attacks and shit.
• 20:21
  Speaker C: Indigestion, not sleep.
• 20:22
  Speaker B: Yeah. Stress is a real thing and like an emotional pain can be real stress. And if you don't deal with it.
• 20:32
  Speaker C: Like it can fester and turn.
• 20:33
  Speaker B: Absolutely fester.
• 20:35
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker B: Yeah. So I'm always, you know, I've always been someone. Like, I have zero problem expressing my emotions.
• 20:42
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 20:43
  Speaker B: Right. Like, almost. I'm thinking almost to a fault, you know?
• 20:47
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 20:47
  Speaker B: But, you know, it makes me sleep at night because I'm like, you know, I said. I said what I wanted to.
• 20:53
  Speaker C: Right.
• 20:53
  Speaker B: For better. Yeah.
• 20:55
  Speaker C: So, yeah, that album I put out in. Beginning of 2023, I think. Mid 2023, anyway. Yeah. And I'm really proud of it. I'm trying to get it out there. It's hard, you know, as a solo, just dude or whatever, you know, I don't have like a. You know, it's tough. Like, you have a band, you have connections, and it, like, grows from there. It's like a family tree, you know.
• 21:16
  Speaker B: And it also takes the. The weight. A lot of the weight.
• 21:20
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 21:20
  Speaker B: You know, especially if you're in a band with, like, you know, I mean, people you can trust and people that are going in the same direction. It is just like a freeing, lifting feeling.
• 21:31
  Speaker C: Yeah, definitely. And I'm like. And it's like a sensitive album. I'm a sensitive guy, you know, I mean, it's not like this rah rah sort of music, you know, I mean, so it's. It's not the sort of. I don't know. I'm kind of protective of it on some level and not just like, going to be like, yeah, go listen to my. You know, I mean, so I'm. In that way. I'm not like, the best promoter of my own music, even. So. Yeah.
• 21:55
  Speaker B: And do you think that comes from, like. Because, you know, I would feel kind of the same. Like, you know, it's hard, like, when you're writing songs, you're like, this is shit that means something to me, and I'm putting it out there. And if someone doesn't. If someone either doesn't take it seriously or if someone, you know, misinterprets it, or that could. That could hurt, you know, so it's. It's hard to be like, I want everybody to hear, like, I. I only want the people that are gonna understand.
• 22:22
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 22:23
  Speaker B: Especially, like you said, coming from a place of sensitivity, which is not prevalent in a lot of dude music. It's like everybody's trying to be the fucking toughest.
• 22:33
  Speaker C: Yeah, totally.
• 22:34
  Speaker B: So.
• 22:35
  Speaker C: Yeah. And I know it's an album that takes time, you know, I mean, like, which I think a lot of the best music is not. You hear the first time it's like, oh, my God, this song's awesome. That's why there's a place for that and that music. Some of that music is great, but a lot of my favorite music is, you know, take, you know, repeated listens to really get the true.
• 22:55
  Speaker B: And I love that you said that because I even have gone on the record of saying that. Yeah, I do. I do album reviews for Metroland.
• 23:02
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 23:02
  Speaker B: And I write the review as I listen to it for the first time, because I'm like, if I listen to it more than once, it's gonna completely change.
• 23:11
  Speaker C: Huh.
• 23:12
  Speaker B: So, like, I sit down, I put the album on, and I write as I'm listening, You know what I mean? I'll stop and maybe rewind and be like, what was that line? Or what was that?
• 23:23
  Speaker C: But do you ever feel like in retrospect, you gave an album a better review, you would have than you would.
• 23:29
  Speaker B: Have upon or the opposite also, like. And I mean, maybe this is not, like, true to, like, being like an audit show, but I will never give a bad review.
• 23:39
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker B: I will never.
• 23:41
  Speaker C: Like, even if.
• 23:43
  Speaker B: Even if I fucking hate something, then I'm not going to review it.
• 23:47
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 23:47
  Speaker B: And if I, like, really don't like something, I'm gonna look at it from a different. You know what I mean? Style of music that I am not familiar with or don't, like. I'll try to look at it from a different angle or I'll at least. At the very least just pick good things out of it.
• 24:05
  Speaker C: To me, it's all about, like, if this album is honest on some level, I'll find something to like on. You know what I mean?
• 24:10
  Speaker B: Yeah. And also, like, I'm reviewing local musicians and, like, there was like. I won't go into who it was, but there was a year or two ago where there was a local band that put on this performance at a place that was like. And there was a couple of technical issues and someone had done a review on it and shredded them. Like, they were this big, huge touring act. And I, like, very publicly commented and was like, how fucking dare you? Dude, you are. Yeah, Like, I'm like, there are. There are people that are working 40 fucking hours a week.
• 24:48
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 24:49
  Speaker B: And then putting on this show on the side.
• 24:51
  Speaker C: Right?
• 24:51
  Speaker B: And, like. And I, like, I ripped into this dude. I was like, how dare you?
• 24:56
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 24:57
  Speaker B: You know, this is not like some national. You know, these are people that. These are your neighbors. And, like, you shredded them. And. Yeah, he ended up.
• 25:06
  Speaker C: Yeah. I've had technical problems that Were totally unexpected out of my. You know, it sucks. And I beat myself up over it more than anyone else should probably.
• 25:14
  Speaker B: But, like, so I will never add to any kind of negativity to anything.
• 25:19
  Speaker C: Salt in the wound.
• 25:20
  Speaker B: Yeah. Because, like, that really upset that. Like, that was years ago. I'm still getting mad.
• 25:25
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 25:27
  Speaker B: It, like, really made me mad because I'm like, these are people that are, you know.
• 25:31
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 25:31
  Speaker B: It's not fair doing this huge production.
• 25:33
  Speaker C: Like.
• 25:34
  Speaker B: And not, like, they're not making, like, tons of money and.
• 25:37
  Speaker C: Right.
• 25:37
  Speaker B: And he was like, amateurs. Bullshit.
• 25:40
  Speaker C: And I'm like, probably he's looking at his. His time to be controversial and. Yeah, I guess in the spotlight or.
• 25:47
  Speaker B: Something, but like, in the local scene, like, we need to support each other. We need to lift each other up and like. And just like the old. That if you don't have anything nice to say, just don't say it. You know what I mean? Like, not every piece of art is for every person.
• 26:03
  Speaker C: Right.
• 26:03
  Speaker B: And if you don't agree with it, like, you know, like, I've seen on Socials, like, people, there's like, memes, you know, like. Oh, you know, that are busting on a certain style of music or like somebody doing something that means something to them and that shit pisses me off because, you know, let people express themselves.
• 26:21
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker B: And who the fuck are you to tell them that they can?
• 26:24
  Speaker C: Right. Yeah. For me, it always. Again, it comes back to honest. Like, as long as this is coming from an honest place in that person, I can. I can see the value. It might not be, what, great vibes with me or whatever, but I can.
• 26:34
  Speaker B: At least their story and it's their narrative. I mean something to them.
• 26:39
  Speaker C: Right.
• 26:39
  Speaker B: And if it doesn't mean anything to you, then move on.
• 26:41
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Plenty of other stuff.
• 26:43
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I'm like, now I'm. Now I'm all mad. Sorry, dude, I didn't mean to put.
• 26:50
  Speaker C: You in a bad mood.
• 26:52
  Speaker B: No, no, it's good. Like, I'm just like, you know, just thinking about things like that sometimes makes me like.
• 26:58
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 26:59
  Speaker B: Makes me upset. But anyway, I think we should hear a song off the album that's like, you know, we heard something live, we hear something produced. So what do you. What do you got for us?
• 27:10
  Speaker C: Yeah, so this song is called Wasteland. It's. I've been wanting to make a music video. I feel like this could be like my radio hit quote unquote, off this album. Yeah, it's catchy. And this one I wrote there, like, on the spot directly you know, it's really about the breakup with that person. And. But, yeah, it's got a good groove to it. It's got a little edge to it, and. Yeah.
• 27:34
  Speaker B: All right, well, let's check out Wasteland Lucio Barbarino, and then we'll be right back to wrap it up.
• 28:09
  Speaker A: Could you help me, please? Hope for something better on the other side of this waistline? I did my best but it was never enough Like a mirage in a distant plane I went for broke and tried to be tough Frustration I can't explain I realize now that your love was just a wasteland A broken dream why should I go through it again? Try whoever can get a bucket of pain Made promises to not look you in the face but it was all the same. You got a lot of growing up to do. It was just a game. I realize now that your love was just a wasteland.
• 31:04
  Speaker B: All right, that was Wasteland Lucio Barbarino. I'm pronouncing that.
• 31:08
  Speaker C: Lucia. Lucio. It's all right.
• 31:10
  Speaker B: Yeah. You know, I'm a unilingual dumb white guy, so, like, that was close.
• 31:16
  Speaker C: Yeah, that's better than a lot.
• 31:18
  Speaker B: Pretty close. I at least try, but, you know, before you go, I just want to thank you for taking time to come up here and do this. This has been really cool. Not only the conversations that we got on. On Mike, but the conversations that we had when we weren't rolling.
• 31:36
  Speaker C: I've actually been recording secretly. I'm going to put those out, man.
• 31:39
  Speaker B: I'm getting canc. But thank you so much for doing this. And before we go, like I do with all my guests, I want to give you a chance to say your gratitudes, your shout outs, your highs, your whatever. Basically, a microphone. Yeah, all yours.
• 31:54
  Speaker C: Really? Okay. Well, yeah. Again, let me just say I'm Lucio Barrino. The Blue Evenings is my newest album. There's another album from 10 years ago called the Past is Dust Shout Outs to Bianca, my friend, and Troy. Oh, I've been playing the farmers market a couple times. So thank you. To the farmers market down in Troy. Yeah.
• 32:12
  Speaker B: Nice.
• 32:13
  Speaker C: Yep, a great little farmer's market. Thank you to all the people in my life that have inspired me to make music. Good or bad, Good, you know, negative or positive feelings. And thank you. Thanks for doing this, man. Yeah, this is really cool. Great little venue. Not actual venue. A venue for local people, to local musicians to speak their mind and get their name out there.
• 32:36
  Speaker B: That's why I'm doing it. Awesome. All right, so he is Lucio Barbarino Yes I am Andy scullen. This is unsigned 518. I'll see you on the road. Unsigned 518 is produced and hosted by me, Andy Scullen. New episodes are available every week wherever you stream podcasts. If you'd like to help support the show, please like and subscribe wherever you are listening. Or you could buy me a coffee at BuyMeACoffee. If you would like to advertise on the show, send me an email@unsigned518mail.com and to be a guest on the show, reach out to me through Instagram at unsigned518. Take care of one another and I'll see you next week.
• 33:24
  Speaker A: Andy Scullin Andy Scullen.