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- 0:00Speaker 1: In December of 1988, a young woman was having coffee
- 0:03Speaker 1: at her friend's house in the city of Tours, France.
- 0:05Speaker 2: And at some point, she excused herself to go use
- 0:08Speaker 2: the bathroom.
- 0:09Speaker 1: And when she opened the lid of the toilet, she
- 0:11Speaker 1: saw in the bowl were two small gold objects floating
- 0:14Speaker 1: in the water. They looked like beads at first, or
- 0:17Speaker 1: maybe broken pieces of jewelry. And so she leaned down
- 0:20Speaker 1: close to get a better look. And then she realized
- 0:23Speaker 1: what they actually were. But before we get into that story...
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- 1:14Speaker 1: On the night of December 11th, 1988, a 38-year-old woman
- 1:18Speaker 1: named Françoise Gendron touched up her lipstick in the bathroom
- 1:21Speaker 1: mirror of a nightclub in the.
- 1:23Speaker 2: City of Tours, France.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Her best friend, Sylvie Ravirago, was washing her hands of
- 1:27Speaker 1: the sink right next to her. Françoise and Sylvie were
- 1:30Speaker 1: best friends. They had basically known each other forever, since
- 1:33Speaker 1: they were just little kids. And these days, they went
- 1:36Speaker 1: out together almost every single night. They were both divorced,
- 1:39Speaker 1: and Françoise' s 19-year-old son had.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Recently moved out of the house.
- 1:43Speaker 1: So she was making the most of her new freedom
- 1:46Speaker 1: and staying out late all the time, often with Sylvie. Now,
- 1:49Speaker 1: Francoise and Sylvie were not exactly the same in terms
- 1:52Speaker 1: of their attitude towards life. Francoise had always been much
- 1:56Speaker 1: more sociable and had this huge circle of friends. And
- 1:59Speaker 1: so really, she was the one who often had to
- 2:00Speaker 1: push her much more introverted friend, Sylvie, to come out
- 2:03Speaker 1: with her.
- 2:04Speaker 2: But she usually did.
- 2:05Speaker 1: However, tonight, it was Francoise who turned to Sylvie and
- 2:09Speaker 1: said that she actually wanted to go home now.
- 2:11Speaker 2: She told Sylvie that the men they.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Were there with at the club, Michelle and Luke, were
- 2:16Speaker 1: making her feel uncomfortable and she wanted to leave. Now,
- 2:18Speaker 1: it was clear to Francoise pretty much immediately that Sylvie
- 2:21Speaker 1: was pretty disappointed. You know, despite being introverted, now that
- 2:25Speaker 1: they were out, Sylvie wanted to stay out.
- 2:28Speaker 2: And also, I mean, they regularly went out.
- 2:30Speaker 1: With Michelle and Luke and there was never any issues before.
- 2:33Speaker 1: And so she said as much to Francoise, like, what
- 2:36Speaker 1: do you mean? Like, what's what's the issue? But Francoise
- 2:39Speaker 1: just said she was getting a weird vibe from both
- 2:41Speaker 1: of them and just would feel better if she went home.
- 2:44Speaker 1: And so a few minutes later, Francoise and Sylvie walked
- 2:47Speaker 1: back to the table where Michelle and Luke were still sitting.
- 2:49Speaker 1: And there was a receipt on the table and Michelle
- 2:52Speaker 1: was putting his wallet away like he had just paid
- 2:53Speaker 1: for it. And actually, Michelle, he turned to the women
- 2:56Speaker 1: and he said, hey, are you guys ready to leave
- 2:58Speaker 1: and go to the next club? But Francoise, she just
- 3:00Speaker 1: kind of smiled and grabbed her coat and said that
- 3:03Speaker 1: actually she was going to leave now. She said she
- 3:05Speaker 1: had to get home to her boyfriend, who was probably
- 3:07Speaker 1: already at her apartment and waiting for her. The men
- 3:09Speaker 1: were pretty surprised by this, and maybe even.
- 3:11Speaker 2: A little bit offended.
- 3:12Speaker 1: And Michelle actually asked Francoise, like, hey, are you sure
- 3:16Speaker 1: everything's okay here? Like, is that really the reason you're leaving?
- 3:19Speaker 1: And Francoise just said, yep, everything's fine.
- 3:22Speaker 2: I just gotta go.
- 3:23Speaker 1: But she could definitely tell that the men did not
- 3:25Speaker 1: believe her. But Francoise didn't really care. I mean, at
- 3:28Speaker 1: this point, she really just wanted to leave. And so
- 3:31Speaker 1: she just turned and gave Sylvie a hug, and then
- 3:33Speaker 1: just said bye to the group who were just kind
- 3:35Speaker 1: of sitting there somewhat stunned this is happening so quickly.
- 3:38Speaker 1: And then Francoise turned and she hustled right out of
- 3:41Speaker 1: the club and flagged down a cab before any of
- 3:43Speaker 1: them could follow her. The next morning, Francoise woke up
- 3:48Speaker 1: in her own bed to the sound of her boyfriend,
- 3:50Speaker 1: Yves Martin, bustling around her bedroom and getting dressed. She
- 3:54Speaker 1: rolled over to look at her alarm clock and saw
- 3:56Speaker 1: that it was 8 a.m. Francoise sat up and Yves
- 4:00Speaker 1: turned to her and said good morning, but She immediately
- 4:03Speaker 1: noticed that his voice was cold, and she knew why.
- 4:06Speaker 1: The night before, when she had come home, they had
- 4:08Speaker 1: gotten into a big argument because, you know, he had
- 4:11Speaker 1: been waiting for her for quite a while, for hours,
- 4:13Speaker 1: you know, by the time she finally got there. That
- 4:16Speaker 1: was the reason she had to leave, and it really
- 4:18Speaker 1: had upset him. And in many ways, this was not
- 4:20Speaker 1: like a one-off issue in their relationship.
- 4:22Speaker 2: It was a recurring one.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Francoise was always staying out super late with her friends
- 4:27Speaker 1: and often with her male friends and Eve felt like
- 4:30Speaker 1: she was basically prioritizing all of them over him. He
- 4:33Speaker 1: worked during the day so the evenings were really the
- 4:35Speaker 1: only time that he and Francoise could reasonably get together
- 4:39Speaker 1: but Francoise never seemed to get home until super late
- 4:42Speaker 1: and at that point it was too late for Eve
- 4:44Speaker 1: to come over or vice versa and so they just
- 4:47Speaker 1: didn't get to see each other as much as they
- 4:48Speaker 1: could be. And so now Francoise knew she had to
- 4:51Speaker 1: do something to try to smooth things over with her
- 4:53Speaker 1: boyfriend So she turned to Eve and said, hey, do
- 4:56Speaker 1: you want to come over tonight after you get off work?
- 4:59Speaker 1: And she promised she would actually be home when he
- 5:01Speaker 1: got there so they could cook dinner together and just
- 5:04Speaker 1: spend some time together. It would be just a night
- 5:06Speaker 1: for them. And at that, Francois saw Eve's shoulders immediately relax.
- 5:10Speaker 2: And then he turned around and he smiled at her
- 5:13Speaker 2: and said, you know what? I'd really, really like that.
- 5:16Speaker 1: And so at this point, the mood in the room
- 5:17Speaker 1: completely shifted. They were sort of back on good terms.
- 5:20Speaker 1: And so as Eve finished getting dressed... He asked Francoise
- 5:23Speaker 1: what else she had going on that day. She told
- 5:25Speaker 1: him that she had a handyman she knew named Christian
- 5:28Speaker 1: Moreau who was coming by that morning to put up
- 5:30Speaker 1: new wallpaper in the apartment. So she'd very likely be
- 5:33Speaker 1: stuck at home for most of the day while he
- 5:35Speaker 1: worked on it.
- 5:36Speaker 2: The two chatted for.
- 5:37Speaker 1: A bit longer and then once Eve was ready to leave,
- 5:39Speaker 1: Francoise kissed him goodbye and then after he left, Francoise
- 5:43Speaker 1: pulled herself out of bed and put on a robe.
- 5:45Speaker 1: And then she went into the kitchen and she opened
- 5:47Speaker 1: up a can of food for her cat and then
- 5:49Speaker 1: she made herself some coffee. She was a bit hungover
- 5:52Speaker 1: from the night before, and she thought maybe a warm
- 5:54Speaker 1: bath would make her feel better. So after she drank
- 5:56Speaker 1: her coffee, she ran a bath, she got into the water,
- 5:59Speaker 1: and she closed her eyes.
- 6:04Speaker 2: At 11 a.m.
- 6:04Speaker 1: The next morning, so December 13th, a janitor at the
- 6:07Speaker 1: Trousseau Hospital in Tours, France, was carrying a trash bag
- 6:11Speaker 1: out to the dumpster when he noticed something odd. There
- 6:14Speaker 1: were two blue trash bags just sitting out on a
- 6:17Speaker 1: strip of grass in the middle of the hospital's parking lot. Now,
- 6:20Speaker 1: the trash bags they used at the hospital were gray,
- 6:23Speaker 1: so the janitor knew these bags, these blue bags, had
- 6:25Speaker 1: to have been left there by someone from outside of
- 6:27Speaker 1: the hospital. So the janitor walked over to the bags
- 6:30Speaker 1: and sort of inspected them from the outside, and they
- 6:33Speaker 1: were sort of bulky, but he couldn't really tell what
- 6:35Speaker 1: was inside of them. And then he just reached down
- 6:37Speaker 1: and he opened one of them, and when he saw
- 6:39Speaker 1: what was inside, he immediately stumbled back, turned, and ran inside,
- 6:44Speaker 1: shouting for someone to call the police. About an hour later,
- 6:51Speaker 1: so just before noon on December 13th, 1988, Chief Inspector
- 6:55Speaker 1: Francois Barbier of the Tours Police Department walked across the
- 6:59Speaker 1: parking lot of the Trousseau Hospital. He'd been sent out
- 7:02Speaker 1: here to investigate human remains that had been found outside
- 7:05Speaker 1: of the hospital, and he was the first officer to
- 7:07Speaker 1: arrive on the scene, and so now a janitor was
- 7:10Speaker 1: walking with him to show him the way to where
- 7:12Speaker 1: the remains had been found. They walked over to a
- 7:15Speaker 1: grassy strip in the middle of the parking lot, and
- 7:17Speaker 1: they stopped next to a pair of blue trash bags.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Inspector Barbier knelt down, and he opened up one of
- 7:22Speaker 1: the bags, and inside, he saw very clearly there were
- 7:26Speaker 1: two severed arms and the lower part of two legs.
- 7:29Speaker 2: He opened up the other.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Blue bag, and he found it contained a woman's torso,
- 7:34Speaker 1: but there was no pelvis, no thighs, and no head.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Barbier turned to the janitor, who he knew had found
- 7:39Speaker 1: the remains, and he asked him, like, when did you
- 7:42Speaker 1: find this? And the janitor said that he'd been out
- 7:45Speaker 1: doing his rounds, throwing his own trash away around 11 a.m.,
- 7:49Speaker 1: and that's when he had seen them But they definitely
- 7:52Speaker 1: had not been there when he had done his rounds
- 7:54Speaker 1: at 9 a.m.
- 7:55Speaker 2: That day. So clearly these.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Had to have been dropped off sometime between 9 and 11.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Barbier stood up and looked around, and he noticed there
- 8:03Speaker 1: actually was a medical school right down the street. And
- 8:06Speaker 1: for a second, he wondered if maybe this was all
- 8:08Speaker 1: just a tasteless prank by some of the students who
- 8:11Speaker 1: could have maybe stolen a cadaver from the hospital's morgue
- 8:14Speaker 1: and dropped it here. But as he thought about it,
- 8:17Speaker 1: he just couldn't imagine medical students desecrating a human body
- 8:21Speaker 1: like that. I mean, even as a prank, it just
- 8:22Speaker 1: seemed not possible. And so to him, it just seemed
- 8:26Speaker 1: like the more obvious answer here, albeit a gruesome one,
- 8:29Speaker 1: was that this woman contained in these two bags had
- 8:32Speaker 1: been murdered. And whoever killed her chopped her body up
- 8:36Speaker 1: and put them in these bags because it would be
- 8:38Speaker 1: easier to dispose of her body that way. And so
- 8:40Speaker 1: Barbier hoped that when the forensics team showed up, they'd
- 8:43Speaker 1: be able to find fingerprints from the killer on the
- 8:46Speaker 1: blue trash bags. Because at this point, I mean, they
- 8:48Speaker 1: didn't have a head of this woman. The victim didn't
- 8:51Speaker 1: have a head. And so it could be very challenging
- 8:53Speaker 1: to identify who it was. And if you didn't know
- 8:56Speaker 1: who the victim was, it would be even harder to
- 8:59Speaker 1: narrow down who might have killed her. Four days later,
- 9:03Speaker 1: on the afternoon of December 17th, Barbier was reading over
- 9:06Speaker 1: an autopsy report at his desk. After the initial discovery
- 9:09Speaker 1: of those blue trash bags at the hospital, more body
- 9:12Speaker 1: parts from what appeared to be the same body had
- 9:14Speaker 1: been found dumped.
- 9:15Speaker 2: Behind a clothing store in a commercial part of town.
- 9:18Speaker 1: But the head was still missing, and with no clues
- 9:22Speaker 1: as to who the victim was, the investigation really was
- 9:24Speaker 1: just barely crawling along. The police had put out a
- 9:27Speaker 1: press release about the body's discovery, but so far no
- 9:30Speaker 1: one had come forward with information, and there had been
- 9:33Speaker 1: no women who had been reported missing in the area recently. Also,
- 9:36Speaker 1: no usable fingerprints have been found on the trash bags.
- 9:39Speaker 1: And so at this point, they really just didn't have
- 9:42Speaker 1: forensic evidence. And so they were not able to even
- 9:44Speaker 1: begin to track down who the killer was or what
- 9:47Speaker 1: happened to them. And now, as Barbier continued to read
- 9:50Speaker 1: through this autopsy report, he saw that the medical examiner
- 9:53Speaker 1: had run the victim's fingerprints through the database, but there
- 9:57Speaker 1: was no match. And so again, there's just like no
- 9:59Speaker 1: leads in the case so far. However, as Barbier continued
- 10:02Speaker 1: reading through this report, he saw that the autopsy did
- 10:06Speaker 1: reveal that the victim had died recently, probably only one
- 10:09Speaker 1: day before her remains were discovered. She appeared to have
- 10:12Speaker 1: bled to death from two deep gashes on her wrists.
- 10:16Speaker 1: And there were also traces of an anti-anxiety medicine that
- 10:18Speaker 1: was in her blood, which suggested she might have been
- 10:21Speaker 1: drugged before she was killed. And Barbier was sort of
- 10:24Speaker 1: baffled by this because the method of murder almost seemed
- 10:27Speaker 1: gentle and controlled compared to the extreme violence that was
- 10:31Speaker 1: done to the body post-mortem. Like those two things were
- 10:34Speaker 1: totally in contrast with each other. And so he wondered
- 10:36Speaker 1: if this was all done this way out of necessity.
- 10:39Speaker 1: And so maybe the killer was just too small or
- 10:42Speaker 1: too weak or maybe both to kill the victim without
- 10:45Speaker 1: sedating her first. And then also along those same lines,
- 10:48Speaker 1: maybe they couldn't move her body without chopping it up first.
- 10:52Speaker 1: And so as Barbier is just sort of thinking through
- 10:54Speaker 1: what could have happened here, the phone on his desk rang.
- 10:57Speaker 1: He put down the report and he picked up the
- 10:59Speaker 1: phone and it was a woman who said that she
- 11:01Speaker 1: had just seen a newspaper article about the dead body
- 11:04Speaker 1: and she thought it could be a woman named Francoise
- 11:06Speaker 1: Gendron who lived in an apartment complex called La Vallée Violette.
- 11:11Speaker 1: And so Barbier immediately sat up, he grabbed his pen
- 11:13Speaker 1: and he He wrote down the name and the address.
- 11:16Speaker 1: But before he could ask who the caller was or
- 11:18Speaker 1: why she thought the victim could be this woman Francoise,
- 11:21Speaker 1: the caller hung up. BetterHelp is the paid partner of
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- 12:32Speaker 1: your first month of therapy. Half an hour later, Barbier
- 12:42Speaker 1: walked through the hallway on the first floor of the
- 12:44Speaker 1: Lavallee Violette apartment complex, where his mystery caller had told
- 12:48Speaker 1: him his victim lived. This was the first lead he
- 12:50Speaker 1: had gotten since the body was found, so he was
- 12:52Speaker 1: hopeful that something would come of it. Now, the woman
- 12:55Speaker 1: who called didn't actually give the apartment number for Francoise,
- 12:59Speaker 1: just that she lived in this complex. And so Barbier
- 13:02Speaker 1: just literally walked down the hallway and knocked on an
- 13:05Speaker 1: apartment door at random and And the man who answered,
- 13:08Speaker 1: Barbier asked him if he knew a woman named Francoise
- 13:11Speaker 1: Gendron and did she live here? And the man just
- 13:14Speaker 1: nodded and said, yep, she lives here. And then he
- 13:16Speaker 1: pointed to a door right down the same hallway. And
- 13:18Speaker 1: then the man, unprompted, told Barbier that he hadn't seen
- 13:22Speaker 1: anybody go in or out of that apartment for at
- 13:25Speaker 1: least a few days. And he was starting to get
- 13:27Speaker 1: worried about Francoise's cat. Barbier's heart began to race because
- 13:31Speaker 1: if Francoise really did live in that apartment... And she
- 13:35Speaker 1: really hadn't been around in days? Well, it seemed very
- 13:37Speaker 1: possible that she was his victim. So he thanked the
- 13:41Speaker 1: man and said he would handle it. And then he
- 13:43Speaker 1: walked down the hallway to the door and he knocked.
- 13:46Speaker 2: And there was no answer. But he could hear a
- 13:48Speaker 2: cat meowing inside.
- 13:50Speaker 1: And so at this point, Barbier was feeling really confident
- 13:53Speaker 1: about the anonymous tip. And so he just turned and
- 13:56Speaker 1: hurried back out to his car. And he radioed for
- 13:58Speaker 1: a forensics team to come to this apartment complex. And
- 14:01Speaker 1: then a few minutes later, they arrived carrying a battering
- 14:04Speaker 1: ram to break down the door. So Barbier and the team,
- 14:07Speaker 1: they go back down the hallway to Francoise's door.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Barbier got out of the way.
- 14:11Speaker 1: And then the officers smashed it down with this ram.
- 14:14Speaker 1: And then once it was open, Barbier stepped inside the apartment.
- 14:18Speaker 1: As soon as Barbier was in this apartment, he was
- 14:20Speaker 1: standing in the living room. And he looked around and
- 14:23Speaker 1: nothing seemed disturbed. However, when he left the living room
- 14:27Speaker 1: and went into the kitchen, it was a different story. Now,
- 14:30Speaker 1: the kitchen was not a total disaster, but there was
- 14:33Speaker 1: a broken dish on the ground and some food items
- 14:36Speaker 1: that must have been on the dish at some point
- 14:37Speaker 1: that also were scattered across the floor. And so just
- 14:41Speaker 1: at first glance, it appeared like maybe some sort of
- 14:44Speaker 1: struggle happened in here. However, Barbier looked around the kitchen
- 14:47Speaker 1: and he didn't find any blood anywhere. So it was
- 14:49Speaker 1: just this broken plate. And then when Barbier checked the
- 14:52Speaker 1: rest of the apartment... No drawers or closets looked like
- 14:56Speaker 1: they'd been ransacked, so this didn't appear like an apartment
- 14:59Speaker 1: that had been robbed at any point. However, one thing
- 15:01Speaker 1: Barbier did notice was in the bedroom, there were a
- 15:04Speaker 1: few unopened rolls of wallpaper on a stool, like as
- 15:07Speaker 1: if somebody had been about to do some work in
- 15:10Speaker 1: the bedroom, but then just didn't. Barbier told the forensics
- 15:13Speaker 1: team to first make sure the cat got fed, because
- 15:16Speaker 1: there was a cat in here, and the cat was,
- 15:18Speaker 1: you know, a little malnourished, but basically okay. And then
- 15:21Speaker 1: to sweep the apartment for fingerprints to see whether Francoise's
- 15:24Speaker 1: prints matched the victim. And if she was the victim,
- 15:27Speaker 1: he was hoping they might also find fingerprints or blood
- 15:30Speaker 1: inside the apartment from whoever might have killed her.
- 15:33Speaker 2: And so the forensics team, they got to work.
- 15:35Speaker 1: And Barbier, he just continued sort of walking around the apartment,
- 15:38Speaker 1: looking at photos that were out on display. to maybe
- 15:41Speaker 1: get a sense of Francoise's body size, to sort of
- 15:44Speaker 1: mentally compare it to the victim's body. And as he
- 15:47Speaker 1: was doing this, he happened to glance out the window
- 15:50Speaker 1: and he saw a young man standing on the sidewalk
- 15:52Speaker 1: outside who clearly was watching the police through the glass.
- 15:56Speaker 1: And when Barbier locked eyes with this guy, the guy
- 15:59Speaker 1: suddenly looked terrified and he just turned and began speed
- 16:02Speaker 1: walking away, at which point Barbier opened up the window
- 16:05Speaker 1: and shouted at this guy to stay right where he was.
- 16:10Speaker 1: An hour later, Inspector Barbier walked into an interview room
- 16:13Speaker 1: at the Tor police station and sat down across from
- 16:16Speaker 1: the young man who had been watching Francoise's apartment.
- 16:18Speaker 2: By now, he knew this man's name.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Was Yves Martin, and he claimed to have been Francoise's boyfriend.
- 16:24Speaker 1: And so Barbier sits down and he asks Yves, you know,
- 16:27Speaker 1: what were you doing outside of Francoise's apartment when I
- 16:30Speaker 1: saw you?
- 16:30Speaker 2: And Yves said that he had just come.
- 16:32Speaker 1: By the apartment to see if Francoise was home, but
- 16:35Speaker 1: like he got there and saw police inside and he
- 16:38Speaker 1: knew something was wrong. But he specified that he hadn't
- 16:41Speaker 1: seen or heard from her in about five days and
- 16:43Speaker 1: didn't know she was missing. Like the last time he
- 16:46Speaker 1: spoke to her was the morning of December 12th. Now,
- 16:48Speaker 1: the instant Eve said December 12th, Barbier thought of two things.
- 16:52Speaker 1: One is that was actually the day before the body
- 16:56Speaker 1: was found in the parking lot. And two, based on
- 16:58Speaker 1: the autopsy report, it was presumed that the victim was
- 17:01Speaker 1: killed the.
- 17:02Speaker 2: Day before her body was found. So December 12th. And
- 17:05Speaker 2: so it's pretty.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Suspicious that this guy is mentioning December 12th. That's the
- 17:09Speaker 1: last time he saw Francoise. And so Barbier leaned in
- 17:12Speaker 1: and he asked Eve to elaborate about the last time
- 17:15Speaker 1: he saw Francoise on the 12th. And Eve said he
- 17:18Speaker 1: had seen Francoise at her own apartment when he left
- 17:21Speaker 1: the apartment around 8 a.m.
- 17:23Speaker 2: On the 12th.
- 17:24Speaker 1: And the two of them had made plans to meet
- 17:26Speaker 1: up again at her place that evening. But he said
- 17:28Speaker 1: when he got there that night, she wasn't home. But
- 17:31Speaker 1: this was not unusual for her. So Eve explained that
- 17:34Speaker 1: he just let himself inside her apartment with the spare
- 17:37Speaker 1: key she had given him, and he just made himself dinner,
- 17:39Speaker 1: and he watched TV while he waited.
- 17:41Speaker 2: For her to eventually show up.
- 17:43Speaker 1: And then he said at around 8 p.m., her landline,
- 17:46Speaker 1: her home landline phone.
- 17:47Speaker 2: Began to ring.
- 17:48Speaker 1: Eve said that he answered the phone, which was not
- 17:50Speaker 1: totally unusual, and he said the person who was calling
- 17:54Speaker 1: claimed to be one of Francoise's friends. Eve said he
- 17:57Speaker 1: didn't recognize the voice, but he said Francoise had a
- 18:00Speaker 1: big circle of friends, and he for sure did not
- 18:02Speaker 1: know all of them.
- 18:03Speaker 2: But Eve told Barbier.
- 18:04Speaker 1: That this caller was not calling the apartment to try
- 18:08Speaker 1: to reach Francoise. They were calling the apartment to reach him, Eve,
- 18:12Speaker 1: to tell him that apparently Francoise had decided to go
- 18:16Speaker 1: out of town this weekend with some other friends and
- 18:18Speaker 1: that she would not be home tonight. And Eve said
- 18:21Speaker 1: this was not the first time that Francoise had ditched him.
- 18:25Speaker 1: And so in his frustration after being told this by
- 18:27Speaker 1: this friend, he said he grabbed his dinner plate and
- 18:29Speaker 1: just chucked it on the floor and shattered it and
- 18:31Speaker 1: then he left. Barbier was surprised to hear this, and
- 18:34Speaker 1: he was thinking, if Eve was the type of person
- 18:37Speaker 1: who would immediately start breaking things over something that, you know,
- 18:41Speaker 1: didn't seem like that big of a deal, well, what.
- 18:43Speaker 2: Else was he capable of?
- 18:44Speaker 1: However, as potentially suspicious as Eve was, Barbier had not
- 18:49Speaker 1: actually confirmed whether Francoise was even his victim. This could
- 18:53Speaker 1: just be a coincidence here, that she left town right
- 18:56Speaker 1: before this body was found.
- 18:57Speaker 2: Like, she could be just fine.
- 18:58Speaker 1: And so, before Barbier let Eve go, because he couldn't
- 19:01Speaker 1: really hold him at this point, He asked Yves to
- 19:03Speaker 1: just give him a detailed account of what else he
- 19:06Speaker 1: had done on December 12th. He wanted to get the
- 19:08Speaker 1: full timeline of what he did on that day. And
- 19:11Speaker 1: Yves just said after he had left Francoise's apartment that
- 19:14Speaker 1: morning when he and Francoise had made plans to meet
- 19:17Speaker 1: up that night, he said he had spent most of
- 19:19Speaker 1: the day at work and then he had gone back
- 19:21Speaker 1: to Francoise's apartment after work and then after he had
- 19:24Speaker 1: waited around for a while and got that phone call
- 19:26Speaker 1: and broke the plate, he said he had just left
- 19:28Speaker 1: and gone straight to his own apartment which he shared
- 19:30Speaker 1: with his mother and he was there all night. And
- 19:33Speaker 1: so Barbier wrote down what he said and made a
- 19:35Speaker 1: note to follow up on his alibi. And then before
- 19:37Speaker 1: he let Eve go, he just asked him if Francoise
- 19:40Speaker 1: was planning to go anywhere or meet anybody on the
- 19:43Speaker 1: day he.
- 19:44Speaker 2: Last saw her.
- 19:44Speaker 1: And Eve, he thought about it for a moment. And
- 19:47Speaker 1: then he said, yeah, actually, there was one thing Francoise advised.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Mentioned to him.
- 19:50Speaker 1: She had told him that an acquaintance named Christiane Moreau
- 19:54Speaker 1: was supposed to come over her apartment later that morning
- 19:57Speaker 1: to put up some new wallpaper in her apartment. The
- 20:00Speaker 1: next morning, December 18th, Inspector Barbier knocked on the door
- 20:04Speaker 1: of Christiane's.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Apartment, the guy who was going to put up the wallpaper.
- 20:08Speaker 1: Now, at this point, forensics still had not confirmed whether
- 20:11Speaker 1: or not Francoise was the victim. But for the time being,
- 20:14Speaker 1: Barbier was working under the assumption that she was. A
- 20:18Speaker 1: few seconds later, a young man answered the door and
- 20:20Speaker 1: confirmed he was Christian Moreau. And so Barbier asked him
- 20:24Speaker 1: if he remembered going to Francoise Gendron's apartment on December 12th.
- 20:29Speaker 2: And Christian said, yes, he did remember.
- 20:32Speaker 1: But he seemed confused about why he was being asked
- 20:34Speaker 1: about it by a police officer. Barbier explained that Francoise
- 20:37Speaker 1: was presumed to be missing and had even been possibly
- 20:41Speaker 1: killed on the same day that Christiane was at her apartment.
- 20:44Speaker 1: And Christiane looked very surprised to hear this. And he
- 20:47Speaker 1: just said, you know, I was there on the 12th.
- 20:49Speaker 1: I got there around 10 a.m.
- 20:50Speaker 2: That morning.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Francoise seemed perfectly fine. She appeared to have just gotten
- 20:55Speaker 1: out of the bath and it just didn't seem like
- 20:57Speaker 1: anything was wrong. However, Christiane said he He was only
- 21:01Speaker 1: in the apartment around Francoise for like a minute because
- 21:04Speaker 1: he just dropped off the new wallpaper and was going
- 21:06Speaker 1: to install it on another day. So it was a
- 21:09Speaker 1: very brief interaction. But again, she seemed fine during this
- 21:12Speaker 1: very brief interaction. Barbier obviously had seen those rolls of
- 21:16Speaker 1: new wallpaper just sitting in Francoise's apartment. So he figured
- 21:20Speaker 1: this part of Christian's story had to be true, that
- 21:22Speaker 1: he must have dropped them off. But it did seem
- 21:25Speaker 1: a bit odd to drop the wallpaper off on one day.
- 21:28Speaker 1: and then come back at another time to actually perform
- 21:31Speaker 1: the work. Like you could easily just do those two
- 21:33Speaker 1: things at the same time. So he wondered whether this
- 21:35Speaker 1: had actually been the plan all along, or if something
- 21:38Speaker 1: unexpected had happened inside of the apartment with Francoise that
- 21:42Speaker 1: had somehow stopped Christiane from installing the wallpaper on that
- 21:46Speaker 1: first visit. So Barbier asked Christiane for his alibi for
- 21:49Speaker 1: the rest of the day that Francoise had last been seen,
- 21:52Speaker 1: which was the 12th, And Christian went over his entire day,
- 21:55Speaker 1: he provided all the information, and then afterwards, Barbier, after
- 21:58Speaker 1: taking down some notes, he said he would be in touch. Now,
- 22:01Speaker 1: at this moment, Barbier didn't have enough evidence to hold Christian.
- 22:04Speaker 2: For more questioning.
- 22:06Speaker 1: But, as he walked back to his car, Barbier hoped
- 22:08Speaker 1: that forensics might find some fingerprints or blood in Francoise's
- 22:12Speaker 1: apartment that could implicate Christian. A day later, Barbier sat
- 22:24Speaker 1: down at his desk and read over a forensics report
- 22:27Speaker 1: on Francoise's apartment. Now, there hadn't been any blood traces found,
- 22:31Speaker 1: but a set of fingerprints had been pulled from the phone,
- 22:34Speaker 1: and they matched the hands that had been found inside
- 22:36Speaker 1: the blue trash bag. So this confirmed that Francoise was
- 22:40Speaker 1: indeed the victim. But so far, there was no evidence
- 22:43Speaker 1: pointing to who killed her. Eve, Francoise's boyfriend, his alibi
- 22:47Speaker 1: checked out. And that handyman, Christian Moreau, he also had
- 22:50Speaker 1: a solid alibi. And then as for Francoise's 19-year-old son
- 22:54Speaker 1: who was serving in the military, well, he was confirmed
- 22:58Speaker 1: to have been at his barracks over 200 miles away
- 23:01Speaker 1: at the time of the murder. And so he was
- 23:03Speaker 1: ruled out as a suspect. And then also he would
- 23:05Speaker 1: say that he had not heard from his mother since
- 23:08Speaker 1: several days before she was actually killed. Barbier was still
- 23:11Speaker 1: trying to figure out who was that person who called
- 23:13Speaker 1: Francoise's apartment and when Eve was there, to tell Eve that, hey,
- 23:17Speaker 1: your girlfriend's going to be out of town this weekend,
- 23:19Speaker 1: because it just seemed like that was pretty suspicious, and
- 23:22Speaker 1: this person who was calling must know something about Francoise's death.
- 23:27Speaker 1: But this was the 1980s, so it was harder to
- 23:29Speaker 1: get a hold of phone logs than it is today. Now,
- 23:32Speaker 1: Barbier had submitted an order for those phone logs, but
- 23:35Speaker 1: the order had to be signed by a judge still,
- 23:37Speaker 1: and then it could also take several more days beyond
- 23:39Speaker 1: that to actually get the records, and so there was
- 23:42Speaker 1: a bit of a wait. However, just then, another officer
- 23:45Speaker 1: knocked on Barbier's door and said that a phone call
- 23:48Speaker 1: had just come in from someone claiming to have information
- 23:50Speaker 1: about Francois Gendron. And so Barbier, he picks up the
- 23:53Speaker 1: phone and he hears a woman's voice. And this woman
- 23:56Speaker 1: tells him that she has information on Francois. And Barbier
- 24:00Speaker 1: immediately wondered, like, is this the same anonymous woman who
- 24:04Speaker 1: called in before with that tip that Francois was the victim?
- 24:08Speaker 1: But Barbier just couldn't quite tell if it was the
- 24:10Speaker 1: same voice. And so this woman told Barbier... that she
- 24:13Speaker 1: had been a very close friend of Francoise's, and she
- 24:16Speaker 1: knew about two men named Michel and Luc who might
- 24:20Speaker 1: have been involved in Francoise's death. She said right before
- 24:23Speaker 1: she died, Francoise had found out that these two men
- 24:27Speaker 1: were secretly involved in drug trafficking, and apparently they had
- 24:30Speaker 1: talked about killing Francoise if she reported them to the police. Specifically,
- 24:35Speaker 1: the caller said these two men had threatened Francoise that
- 24:38Speaker 1: they would drug her, bleed her out, chop her into pieces,
- 24:42Speaker 1: and then cut off her head so she could never
- 24:44Speaker 1: be identified. Early the next morning, so on December 20th, 1988,
- 24:50Speaker 1: seven days after Francoise's body was found, Chief Inspector Barbier
- 24:54Speaker 1: pulled up outside of a discount store in a shopping
- 24:56Speaker 1: area in Tours. In front of the store, there were
- 24:59Speaker 1: two men unloading boxes from a semi-truck. Barbier, he got
- 25:03Speaker 1: out of his car, and he began walking towards them.
- 25:05Speaker 1: And when these two men saw the detective approaching, they
- 25:08Speaker 1: immediately seemed sort of panicked. And when Barbier got close enough,
- 25:12Speaker 1: he asked them if they were the store's owners, Michelle
- 25:15Speaker 1: and Luke. And one of the men nodded. At which
- 25:18Speaker 1: point Barbier said, you two are coming with me. About
- 25:22Speaker 1: an hour later, Barbier walked down the hallway at the
- 25:24Speaker 1: police station, past the doors of the interrogation rooms where
- 25:27Speaker 1: Michelle and Luke were currently being held. But first, he
- 25:31Speaker 1: wanted to speak to the third person the police had
- 25:33Speaker 1: brought in for questioning that morning.
- 25:35Speaker 2: Sylvie Reverigo, who happened to be.
- 25:37Speaker 1: Francoise's best friend and friends with Michelle and Luke. And
- 25:42Speaker 1: he sat down across from her and he basically said, look,
- 25:44Speaker 1: like we know you're connected to the two men, Michelle
- 25:47Speaker 1: and Luke, and also to Francoise.
- 25:49Speaker 2: And we want to know if you know anything.
- 25:51Speaker 1: About these two guys, because apparently they could have been
- 25:54Speaker 1: threatening Francoise.
- 25:56Speaker 2: We think they could be involved.
- 25:57Speaker 1: Tell me everything you know. And Sylvie would tell Barbier
- 26:00Speaker 1: that she was actually scared of Michelle and Luke.
- 26:03Speaker 2: And that was why she had not come to.
- 26:05Speaker 1: Police yet, because she was worried if she told them
- 26:07Speaker 1: what she knew, they would hurt her. She told Barbier
- 26:11Speaker 1: that those two, those two men had told her, Sylvie,
- 26:14Speaker 1: that they intended to kill Francoise because they were worried
- 26:18Speaker 1: that Francoise was going to report them to police for
- 26:21Speaker 1: drug trafficking and selling stolen cars. And Sylvie said she
- 26:24Speaker 1: didn't know if they were actually capable of that, but
- 26:27Speaker 1: she just was too worried about going to the police
- 26:29Speaker 1: about it and feared they would find out and then
- 26:31Speaker 1: she would become a target as well. And so he
- 26:33Speaker 1: and Sylvie chatted for a bit longer and he got
- 26:35Speaker 1: some additional information about when exactly they spoke to her
- 26:38Speaker 1: and said this and some other details about sort of
- 26:41Speaker 1: their demeanor and the people.
- 26:42Speaker 2: They hung out with.
- 26:43Speaker 1: And then after that, Barbier got up, he left the
- 26:46Speaker 1: interrogation room and in the hallway, he caught up with
- 26:49Speaker 1: the detective who had actually already begun interrogating Luke. And
- 26:53Speaker 1: the detective said that so far, Luke had totally refused
- 26:57Speaker 1: to cooperate and he'd outright denied even knowing who Sylvie was.
- 27:01Speaker 1: Barbier sighed when he heard this, and he had a
- 27:03Speaker 1: feeling right away that Michel was not going to be
- 27:06Speaker 1: any more cooperative.
- 27:08Speaker 2: But he was going to try his best to crack him.
- 27:10Speaker 1: So Barbier went into the room where Michel was being held,
- 27:14Speaker 1: and after he sat down, he just asked Michel if
- 27:16Speaker 1: he had seen the news about that woman who was
- 27:18Speaker 1: found chopped up in trash bags in a hospital parking lot.
- 27:21Speaker 1: And Michel said yes, he had heard about that. And
- 27:24Speaker 1: then he made a joke that maybe a surgeon at
- 27:26Speaker 1: the hospital had made a pretty bad mistake or something.
- 27:29Speaker 1: Barbier didn't react to the joke, and instead he just
- 27:32Speaker 1: pulled out a folder and slid it across the table.
- 27:34Speaker 2: And then Michel, he opened it up, and what he saw.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Were photos of those blue trash bags, and also photos
- 27:40Speaker 1: of the severed body.
- 27:41Speaker 2: Parts that had been found inside of them.
- 27:43Speaker 1: And when Michel saw these pictures, he went completely pale.
- 27:47Speaker 1: Barbier then asked Michel, do you know who that.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Body belonged to? And Michel, he just looked up and
- 27:53Speaker 2: shook his head and said no. Barbier just stared at
- 27:55Speaker 2: Michel for a moment, sort of just gauging his reaction.
- 27:58Speaker 1: And then eventually he said, well, the body belonged to
- 28:01Speaker 1: Francois Gendron. When Michel heard this, he really looked like
- 28:04Speaker 1: he was in complete shock. But Barbier immediately followed up
- 28:08Speaker 1: and said, Michel, did you kill Francois? And Michel, his
- 28:12Speaker 1: reaction was to immediately shout, no, that Francois was a
- 28:16Speaker 1: great friend of his and he would never hurt her.
- 28:18Speaker 2: Barbier was crazy for.
- 28:19Speaker 1: Thinking he would do that. And then again and again,
- 28:22Speaker 1: he just insisted that that he was completely innocent here. Now, immediately,
- 28:26Speaker 1: Barbier thought Michel's reaction here was pretty genuine. But just then,
- 28:31Speaker 1: there was a knock on the door, and so Barbier,
- 28:33Speaker 1: he got up and he stepped out into the hallway,
- 28:35Speaker 1: and another officer told him that the forensics team had
- 28:38Speaker 1: just found a piece of evidence that almost certainly would
- 28:41Speaker 1: crack this case wide open. Based on forensic evidence and
- 28:50Speaker 1: an eventual confession, This is what police believe happened to
- 28:53Speaker 1: Francoise Gendron on the morning of December 12, 1988. Around
- 29:04Speaker 1: 10 a.m., the killer knocked on the door of Francoise's apartment.
- 29:08Speaker 1: Francoise answered the door, wrapped in a towel, and told
- 29:10Speaker 1: the killer to come on inside. The killer stepped in,
- 29:13Speaker 1: and they acted very friendly and casual, as if this
- 29:16Speaker 1: visit was nothing out of the ordinary. but after the
- 29:19Speaker 1: two had chatted for a while, the killer decided it
- 29:21Speaker 1: was time to put their plan into action. After all,
- 29:24Speaker 1: Francoise was a problem for them, and they had to
- 29:27Speaker 1: deal with her once and for all. So, at some point,
- 29:30Speaker 1: the killer told Francoise that they had something they wanted
- 29:32Speaker 1: to show her, and asked if she would come over
- 29:35Speaker 1: to the killer's home just for a minute to show them.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Francoise eventually agreed, and once she got dressed, the two
- 29:40Speaker 1: of them headed out together. And so the two of them,
- 29:43Speaker 1: they walk their way to the killer's home, they go inside,
- 29:46Speaker 1: and then before the killer is going to show Francoise,
- 29:48Speaker 1: you know, what they brought them over here to show them,
- 29:51Speaker 1: they first made them both a pot of tea. And critically,
- 29:53Speaker 1: the killer crushed up a few anti-anxiety pills and put
- 29:57Speaker 1: those in the bottom of Francoise's cup of tea. Then
- 30:00Speaker 1: the killer brought the tea over to the kitchen table
- 30:02Speaker 1: where Francoise was sitting and the killer sat down with
- 30:05Speaker 1: her and they both drank their tea. The killer made
- 30:08Speaker 1: sure Francoise drank her entire cup. But by the time
- 30:11Speaker 1: Francoise had finished her tea, she was so sedated from
- 30:14Speaker 1: the drugs that she could barely sit up. At this point,
- 30:17Speaker 1: the killer knew they could move on to the next
- 30:18Speaker 1: phase of their plan.
- 30:19Speaker 2: And so the killer at this point lifted Francoise up
- 30:22Speaker 2: out of the seat.
- 30:23Speaker 1: She didn't put up a fight and they carried her
- 30:25Speaker 1: over to the bathroom and they put her into the
- 30:27Speaker 1: tub and they turned on the water. Eventually, when the
- 30:30Speaker 1: water filled up high enough, the killer just pushed Francoise's
- 30:34Speaker 1: head under the water. And again, Francoise, because of the drugs,
- 30:38Speaker 1: couldn't do anything to stop it. And she remained under
- 30:41Speaker 1: the water until she fell unconscious. After Francoise was dead,
- 30:45Speaker 1: the killer simply drained the tub and then cut Francoise's
- 30:49Speaker 1: body into pieces to make it easier to dispose of.
- 30:52Speaker 1: They took the pieces and shoved them into blue trash
- 30:54Speaker 1: bags and then dumped them in the parking lot of
- 30:57Speaker 1: a nearby hospital 10 minutes away. But the bigger problem
- 31:00Speaker 1: for the killer was Francoise's head. The killer wanted to
- 31:04Speaker 1: completely erase Francoise's identity. So, for that reason, they kept
- 31:09Speaker 1: her head at their home, they would flush Francoise's teeth
- 31:12Speaker 1: down the toilet, and they would take the other pieces
- 31:14Speaker 1: of her head, and they would throw them into a
- 31:16Speaker 1: nearby river. However, despite all this effort, the killer forgot
- 31:21Speaker 1: one thing. which was they put Francoise's hands in those
- 31:24Speaker 1: blue trash bags, and so her body was identified by
- 31:28Speaker 1: her fingerprints just a few days later. And then not
- 31:30Speaker 1: long after that, a tip soon led the police right
- 31:34Speaker 1: to the killer's door, and when they investigated the killer's home,
- 31:38Speaker 1: they found crucial pieces of evidence in her bathroom. The
- 31:42Speaker 1: killer was Francoise's own best friend, Sylvie Reverigo. Sylvie had
- 31:47Speaker 1: always been sort of jealous of Francoise, primarily because she
- 31:50Speaker 1: seemed happy all the time. And on top of that,
- 31:53Speaker 1: Francoise got a lot of attention from men, which just, again,
- 31:57Speaker 1: made Sylvie jealous. And since the two women, post-divorce, were
- 32:01Speaker 1: spending so much time together, even more than in their childhood,
- 32:05Speaker 1: their friendship had gotten suffocatingly close. And over this recent
- 32:09Speaker 1: period of time where they were sort of on top
- 32:11Speaker 1: of each other, Sylvie's jealousy and sort of resentment towards Francoise.
- 32:16Speaker 2: turned into full-blown hatred.
- 32:18Speaker 1: Initially, Sylvie had tried to pin the murder on Michelle
- 32:21Speaker 1: and Luke by telling another friend of Francoise's, a woman
- 32:25Speaker 1: named Yvette, that those two men had threatened to kill Francoise.
- 32:29Speaker 1: And just as Sylvie had hoped, Yvette had called the
- 32:32Speaker 1: police and passed along what she had said. But unbeknownst
- 32:35Speaker 1: to Sylvie, Yvette also shared another tip with the investigators,
- 32:40Speaker 1: which was that a few days after the murder, Yvette's
- 32:43Speaker 1: own daughter had happened to go to Sylvie's house and
- 32:46Speaker 1: her daughter had found two gold dental crowns in the toilet.
- 32:50Speaker 1: And the daughter and Yvette both knew that Francoise had
- 32:54Speaker 1: gold dental crowns. So by the time Sylvie was brought
- 32:57Speaker 1: in for questioning, Inspector Barbier was already pretty sure she
- 33:01Speaker 1: must have had something to do with Francoise's death. And
- 33:04Speaker 1: so police would search Sylvie's home and they would find
- 33:07Speaker 1: traces of blood and they would also find some of
- 33:09Speaker 1: Francoise's jewelry hidden inside of a box. And then when
- 33:13Speaker 1: Sylvie was confronted with all this evidence and testimony during
- 33:16Speaker 1: her interrogation, Sylvie broke down and confessed. Sylvie Reverigo was
- 33:21Speaker 1: charged with Francoise's murder on December 21, 1988. Three years later,
- 33:26Speaker 1: she was convicted and sentenced to life in prison.
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