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Pain in the Back (Tuesday, March 10, 2026, Hour 3) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 4: that coming up for you. I got to play this
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  Speaker 4: clip because we were talking about Corey Booker and the
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  Speaker 4: Senate will tell you about it in our First Things
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  Speaker 4: coming Up. But they want to hang up the Senate
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  Speaker 4: so that they can drag Marco Rubio and Pete Hegsith
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  Speaker 4: in front of them to answer. There are questions about
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  Speaker 4: the president's constitutional use. I hope somebody enters into the
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  Speaker 4: public record. This clip from Friday's Bill Maher program.
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  Speaker 8: This statement from the administration, the president had the constitutional
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  Speaker 8: authority to direct the use of military force because he
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  Speaker 8: could reasonably determine.
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  Speaker 4: By the way he's speaking with US Senator Adam Schiff.
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  Speaker 8: That's such use of force was in the national interest.
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  Speaker 8: That's too vague for you. Totally vague, okay, because that's
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  Speaker 8: from Obama about Libya.
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  Speaker 9: Well, Obama made the argument initially that he could go
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  Speaker 9: into Syria without an authorisation.
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  Speaker 10: I and many others pushed back on that argument.
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  Speaker 4: And we went and we checked and he didn't. But
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  Speaker 4: that's ok because he was on the fly and on
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  Speaker 4: the fly paper there yesterday and this you know, and
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate not this, Bill Maher, because I you know,
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  Speaker 4: whether or not you think he's funny or not, it's
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  Speaker 4: the fact that he is, like we all should be doing,
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  Speaker 4: pushing back against hypocrisy. Don't pee on my leg and
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  Speaker 4: tell me that I have the bladder control problem, which
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  Speaker 4: is what they're doing these days. That's their attitude is,
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  Speaker 4: you know, why do you have a problem with what
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  Speaker 4: we're doing? So when Barack Obama goes and utilanarily does something,
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  Speaker 4: well it's okay because he's on our team. And that's
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  Speaker 4: that's if you're a Democrat and you're in California, of
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  Speaker 4: course that's like redundant, isn't it. But if you're there
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  Speaker 4: listening to kha I Kahi, then you know, how do
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  Speaker 4: you say that to Adam Schiff? Can we find out
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  Speaker 4: if Adam Schiff wins minus the four hundred thousand mystery
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  Speaker 4: votes at any event? Onto our first things this morning,
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  Speaker 4: mailers went out to Virginia voters that have inflamed moods
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  Speaker 4: in the halls of government, invoking imagery of Jim Crow
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  Speaker 4: one point zero. The Speaker of the House said using
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  Speaker 4: the civil rights movement as a prop is wrong. Of course,
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  Speaker 4: he didn't check with Chuck Schumer before saying that the
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  Speaker 4: same act is Jim Crow two point zero.
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  Speaker 7: More than twenty million people would lose their right to vote.
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  Speaker 4: The administration is asking the Supreme Court to clear way
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  Speaker 4: for moves that could expose thousands more people to deportation.
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  Speaker 4: The Justice Department wants a ruling from the High Court
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  Speaker 4: that would let it move quickly and end legal protection
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  Speaker 4: for migrants under the Autopen Amnesty Act that President Biden
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  Speaker 4: started using in twenty twenty two. The administration has expanded
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  Speaker 4: its investigation into irregularities in the twenty twenty election, with
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  Speaker 4: a grand jury subpoenas seeking records related to Maricopa County, Arizona.
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  Speaker 4: Republican Senate President Warren Peterson wrote on x the FBI
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  Speaker 4: next couple of weeks. Leaks to the press have said
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  Speaker 4: and Cory Booker says the Senate will hold up proceedings
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  Speaker 4: on the subject of shifty, you know California's favorite pantload.
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  Speaker 4: I went and I checked this. I'm sorry that four
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  Speaker 4: hundred thousand magical mystery votes would not have changed the
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  Speaker 4: California Senate race because Steve Garvey found out pretty quickly
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  Speaker 4: that the Dodgers went all that popular in California even
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  Speaker 4: when he played there. Most people in California outside of
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  Speaker 4: the Los Angeles metropolitan area hate the Dodgers as much
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  Speaker 4: as most people in the East Eastern Seaboard hate the
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  Speaker 4: New York Yankees off for the same reason. Let me
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  Speaker 4: get to folks here. Also for our friends in Colorado, No,
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  Speaker 4: Jared Poulis won by more than four hundred thousand votes,
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  Speaker 4: so it wouldn't have automatically flipped that. I'm sorry. I
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  Speaker 4: can't deliver good news on this to everybody. These twenty
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  Speaker 4: million magical mystery votes. If if you divvy them up equally,
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  Speaker 4: Police doesn't lose to Heidi Grenale, you know, anymore than
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  Speaker 4: then Abigail Spanberger loses to win some seis. Let me
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  Speaker 4: get to folks lining up on the phones here, Good morning,
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  Speaker 4: who's this morning show? It's my Hey Mike, what's going on?
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  Speaker 10: Surprisingly? I got a phone service? Well I tried calling in.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 10: Saturday, I tried calling in. I was headed to Richmond.
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  Speaker 10: I could hear the live stream live, but I can't
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  Speaker 10: call and what's the same phone. It's just it's amazing
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  Speaker 10: how government can muck up the good safely. Wait is
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  Speaker 10: uh well, there's just so much stuff like the Virginia
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  Speaker 10: Supreme Court. Uh disappointed me twice in a couple of
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  Speaker 10: weeks time. Not that I was really surprised, but I
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  Speaker 10: thought they would have realized the difference between politics and law. No,
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  Speaker 10: they god classified it all as politics and now we're
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  Speaker 10: not interfering, right.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's like I said, the analogy is, you know
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  Speaker 4: somebody's robbing my house, officer, will you stop them? Well,
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  Speaker 4: we can't do anything until after they get out of
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  Speaker 4: your house and leave with all the goodies. Like what,
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  Speaker 4: but that's what they that's what they're doing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Uh so if the reference random succeeds, then virgendas Supreme
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  Speaker 10: Court will be well.
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  Speaker 11: The voters vote.
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  Speaker 10: Uh well, I'm sorry, we're not differentiating between eligible and
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  Speaker 10: non eligible. Were different changing between ballid stuffing and uh
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  Speaker 10: people that actually showed up. Oh wait, god, I'm getting
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  Speaker 10: all that.
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  Speaker 11: Confuse that aren't just going.
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  Speaker 10: To declare uh the uh the refrenderum on the constitution
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  Speaker 10: of valid and or if it fails despite all of
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  Speaker 10: that uh stuff, like a My joke is vote early,
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  Speaker 10: vote often, Vote for your spouse, vote for your children,
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  Speaker 10: vote for your parents, for your pets, vote for your neighbors.
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  Speaker 10: Again trying to unless you're a Democrat and you feel.
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  Speaker 4: It needs to you but uh, well yeah, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 10: So Mike, so if you're if it gets your voted down,
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  Speaker 10: then what is the uh uh Supreme cargoing site. Oh
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  Speaker 10: it's a new point. Now you will toss the laws
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  Speaker 10: of you anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this is this is why I said, he's what
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  Speaker 4: Mike is talking about. Is if Virginia Supreme Court was
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  Speaker 4: asked to stop this vote because of five different instances
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  Speaker 4: where the Democratic Party of Virginia broke laws, either federal
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  Speaker 4: law or state laws regarding how this was conducted, and
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  Speaker 4: the Supreme Court said, yeah, but we we have a
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  Speaker 4: longstanding history of not interfering with legislative processes, and that's
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  Speaker 4: ridiculous if they've clearly broken the law to do a
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  Speaker 4: legislative process. This this sets up into the John Roberts
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  Speaker 4: world of well, it's already been done, so we're just
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  Speaker 4: we're just going to work around the edges of it.
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  Speaker 4: They're not going to change it. This is why I
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  Speaker 4: would like to see the Virginia the Virginia State Board
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  Speaker 4: of Elections enjoined by the court to keep from releasing
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  Speaker 4: the election results until we know what the Supreme Court
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  Speaker 4: rules because I don't want to. I don't want the
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  Speaker 4: Supreme Court to be tainted by what an election result is.
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  Speaker 4: But that being said, they've already kind of let the
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  Speaker 4: dog out of the dog kennel. Mic, You have a
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  Speaker 4: good morning, sir. Thank you, and you Joel's online too here.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, Joel. What's going on, sir?
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  Speaker 11: Good mornings.
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  Speaker 4: I just wanted to ask.
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  Speaker 26: I know that when planted security and ICE they do
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  Speaker 26: a lot of their research they go through because the
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  Speaker 26: DMVs and each state has to report a portion of
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  Speaker 26: the information to the FBI and Homeland Security. And I
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  Speaker 26: don't understand, you know, because there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 26: that are considered illegal with the illegal entry. I wonder
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  Speaker 26: what percentage of them that they're actually finding out that
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  Speaker 26: they're illegal through that process. Am I making sense?
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  Speaker 4: Well? You are, But there are several places where the
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  Speaker 4: board of the state DMV is enjoined by the courts
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  Speaker 4: from sharing that information with federal authorities because they know
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  Speaker 4: what's going to happen. Uh there. It's not the same
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  Speaker 4: thing as the warden of a jail calling ICE saying, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: one of our inmates is about to be released and
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  Speaker 4: he's got a detainer on him, but it's very close.
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  Speaker 4: It's all part of what goes under the idea of
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  Speaker 4: a sanctuary state is we won't we don't ask, we
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  Speaker 4: won't tell.
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  Speaker 26: But isn't it by those or the judiciary doing that.
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  Speaker 26: I'm not trying to make it too simplistic, but aren't
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  Speaker 26: they violating federal law? I mean, can't they be this barred?
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  Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. And Number One, the United States
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  Speaker 4: as a concept was supposed to be simple, was supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be very straightforward and not a lot of eddies
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  Speaker 4: and currents running off into the hinter lands. Number Two,
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  Speaker 4: Supreme Court justices in many cases, state ones especially have
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  Speaker 4: that sovereign immunity that they hide behind. So especially with
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  Speaker 4: a court ruling, a court can rule that a rule
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  Speaker 4: is constitutional or not, or just choose not to hear
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  Speaker 4: the case being brought about it, which will have its
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  Speaker 4: own meaning to how the case is determined. But in
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  Speaker 4: no case can they be determined to have broken the
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  Speaker 4: law because they're they've been asked to rule on something
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  Speaker 4: and it's abstract. Rather than saying, hey, you said, sterilizing
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  Speaker 4: Virginia citizens is legal? Is constitutional? That's a horrific violation
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  Speaker 4: of law. You're under arrest, you, mister Holmes, and it's
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  Speaker 4: just not going to happen. So because they get to
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  Speaker 4: determine what is constitutional or not, they're sort of just
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  Speaker 4: given that Hall pass on. Although to be fair, impeachment
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  Speaker 4: happens much more frequently to judges, mostly federal judges, than
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  Speaker 4: it happens to US presidents. I think the last ten cases,
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  Speaker 4: eight cases of impeachment proceedings have involved judges, federal judges mostly.
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  Speaker 4: So I hope that answers your question. You just have
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  Speaker 4: to get somebody who's willing to bring those impeachment proceedings.
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  Speaker 26: Yeah, it seems like that's the biggest part of what's
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  Speaker 26: holding back.
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  Speaker 4: You mean, finding somebody with guts. Yeah, that is no.
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  Speaker 9: And you know, it's definitely attitude, because kids can change
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  Speaker 9: I remember, as I said, I go back into my
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  Speaker 9: So I but these kids don't they don't know practice,
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  Speaker 9: A crowd of forty one thousand and six twenty eight
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  Speaker 9: Justin Thomas is working slowly returning from his micro dissectomy
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  Speaker 9: in November. What doctors treated a herniated disk that was
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  Speaker 9: causing him pain?
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  Speaker 4: And you much with that.
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  Speaker 9: The golfers, they've got a lot to worry about, like,
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  Speaker 9: it means if you know a little bit, you know,
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  Speaker 9: because the Nikes and Thedidas and Taylor Mads of the world,
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  Speaker 9: they lay out the clothing for a tournament based on
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  Speaker 9: now JT is a free agent and he's he's working
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  Speaker 4: It's harder.
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  Speaker 34: Like I mean, my wife will tell you, like I
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  Speaker 34: sit there and I'll just stare in my closet and
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  Speaker 34: So that being said, when it comes to like packing,
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  Speaker 34: out for me or like I'm not just kind of
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  Speaker 34: grabbing some pants and shirts like I'm I just I
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  Speaker 9: You know, I'm finding out that I have a lot
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  Speaker 4: Pair of base well yeah, in golf, I mean it's
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  Speaker 9: And I'm he's an Alabama guy born in Louisville. Uh,
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  Speaker 9: he's a weather optimist. Now he owns six weather apps.
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  Speaker 9: I've got him beat. I've got nine on my phone,
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  Speaker 34: You see a chance of storms and it's aw. You know,
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  Speaker 34: you look at the weather today for the rest of
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  Speaker 34: I'm like, no, it's not like it's gonna get better.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be fine.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's there's yeah, there's a chance of rain.
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  Speaker 34: But but that being said, yes, I'll look at the weather,
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  Speaker 9: Won the TPC in twenty one. He made ten million
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  Speaker 9: Justin Thomas renformed to get back. But he's taking you know,
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  Speaker 9: rods put in his back and everything fusion. He had
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  Speaker 9: to go back in because the incision was infected. So
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  Speaker 9: he is back in the UVA hospital, going through, going
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  Speaker 9: through everything.
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  Speaker 4: Right, I got a guy coming up about that. I
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  Speaker 9: I was working yesterday and getting ready for but and
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• 34:07
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  Speaker 4: I turned on.
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  Speaker 4: Vilenova and the Women's Big East Championship.
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: I know we talked Geno a lot, but I think
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: ninety fifty.
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  Speaker 4: One was the final lumber going over.
• 34:23
  Speaker 9: I didn't look at the line, but the Huskies are
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  Speaker 9: thirty four to oh and they will enter the NCAA
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• 34:32
  Speaker 9: ten other times from ten other schools, Yukon's nine and
• 34:35
  Speaker 9: eleven eleven times. They go into the NCAA Tournament undefeated.
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: Do you think he's gonna survive? And now he's I
• 34:43
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• 34:45
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• 34:56
  Speaker 9: They beat Oregon State, which sounds weird. West Coast Conference
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  Speaker 9: in Oregon State. Now the NCAA Tournament not until Sunday.
• 35:04
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• 35:17
  Speaker 4: So it is just get ready for the basketball explosion
• 35:20
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• 35:23
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• 35:29
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  Speaker 4: were that much further ahead, and they were getting the
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  Speaker 4: Notre Dame was in there. And of course you got
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  Speaker 9: But you know, there's a there's a handful. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Happened you know in our flagship James Madison nil? Yeah,
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• 36:43
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  Speaker 4: Nick Saban I tild I mentioned it yesterday. Nick Saban
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  Speaker 9: Let's please make it just somebody wave a wand and go.
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  Speaker 9: You're now the NCAA executive director, the head of football
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  Speaker 4: We just take O Thomas's idea? Start treating the college
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  Speaker 4: Doctor Mark Frankel is out of Naples, Florida, where he
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  Speaker 4: pins and all of that for spinal fusion surgery, which
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  Speaker 4: is a huge deal. Doctor Frankel, I appreciate you taking
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  Speaker 4: a couple of minutes out with us. So tell is
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  Speaker 4: how we go about this breakthrough you made.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I lumbar spinal fusion. It's sort of a
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  Speaker 2: two step procedure, a traditional one. So step one is
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  Speaker 2: you put a spacer in the disk space, and that
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  Speaker 2: spacer untinches the nerves, but it doesn't hold anything still.
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  Speaker 2: And so step two is you make a big incision
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  Speaker 2: and you put in screws and you connect them with rods,
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  Speaker 2: and that holds everything still while the bone grows through
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  Speaker 2: the spacer.
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  Speaker 7: I invented something that I call a stem list stem
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  Speaker 7: like cement, and so I do step one the same way.
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  Speaker 7: I put a spacer in the disk space through a
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  Speaker 7: small incision but then instead of making any real incision
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  Speaker 7: on your back and cutting through any muscle, I just
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  Speaker 7: cement the spacer in place.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting, that's like, that's like home depot meets the hospital there.
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  Speaker 4: That's what made you think of that. That's fascinating.
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  Speaker 19: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: Thanks.
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  Speaker 7: So I'm in Naples, Florida, where we have a lot
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  Speaker 7: of osteoporotic bones because the average age here is higher,
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  Speaker 7: and so for folks who get fractures in osteoporotic bone,
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  Speaker 7: we commonly use this bone cement. And you know, we've
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  Speaker 7: been using that stuff in human since the nineteen fifties
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  Speaker 7: and it's safe, and it's very strong, and it's reliable.
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  Speaker 7: And I've spent a long amount of time looking for
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  Speaker 7: a way to get those spacers to stay in place
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  Speaker 7: without having to having to kind of torture people with
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  Speaker 7: these big incisions in their back. And after a lot
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  Speaker 7: of kind of iterations and evolution, this is sort of
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  Speaker 7: where we landed.
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  Speaker 4: Is there a flexibility issue that is beyond what you
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  Speaker 4: would have with the pins and screws.
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  Speaker 7: That's a great question, and it gets sort of technical.
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  Speaker 7: The answer is that the stiffness would be the same.
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  Speaker 11: As a regular lumbar fusion.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, but early data looks like that stiffness is going
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  Speaker 7: to put less stress on the level above and below
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  Speaker 7: compared to patients.
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  Speaker 11: With rods and screws.
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  Speaker 4: That's good.
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  Speaker 11: And there's some other a data out there. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 11: there's some other data out there that sort of supports
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  Speaker 11: that conclusion.
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  Speaker 7: But hopefully what that means in the long term, and
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  Speaker 7: what I've seen so far in my patients is that
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  Speaker 7: you're less likely to develop a jacent segment disease and
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  Speaker 7: need to go back for a vision surgery for that.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what you've been seeing a lot is folks.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if they get it in their fifties, then
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  Speaker 4: by the time they're in their what is the shelf
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  Speaker 4: life on this? I mean, how soon after somebody, let's
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: just say, as a lumbar fusion in the in their fifties,
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  Speaker 4: how soon are they back with more problems? The what's
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  Speaker 4: the aging on it?
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  Speaker 11: Oh? Yeah, it varies wildly patient to patient.
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  Speaker 7: I've seen folks come back thirty years later with no
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: issues at all, and I've seen patients come back three
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  Speaker 7: or four months later and need a revision surgery.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. So I guess that you know, we're
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: all different.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, it gets to be really unsatisfying.
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  Speaker 7: And the unfortunate kind of truth that you learn is
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  Speaker 7: that the traditional way of doing things is it's really
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  Speaker 7: sort of not the most reliable surgery, and we kind
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  Speaker 7: of all deserve to be doing better for our patients.
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  Speaker 7: Is are better and we should be doing better for
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  Speaker 7: our patients. And that's that's where the motivation for.
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  Speaker 11: This really came from.
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: Is guy kind of sick of torturing people?
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  Speaker 4: Where do people find out more about? Is sem lift.
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  Speaker 7: Yeahem lift so sem like cement lifts, lumbar inner body
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  Speaker 7: fusion so sem lift dot com, ce m l dot com.
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  Speaker 11: Can you know the goal of the surgery is I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, The goal of the surgery is, oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: The goal of the surgery is it's like a more
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  Speaker 7: minimally invasive approach to a lumbar fusion. If it doesn't
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  Speaker 7: work for whatever reason, it doesn't burn any bridges and
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  Speaker 7: so that the kind of bail out there would be
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  Speaker 7: rods and screws, which if you're someone who already needs
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  Speaker 7: a lumbar fusion, that's your only other option.
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  Speaker 11: So trying this first doesn't burn any break I've done
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  Speaker 11: about one hundred and thirty patients to date, and of
• 49:04
  Speaker 11: those one hundred and thirty, only two have gone on
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  Speaker 11: to New Bronzing's crews so far.
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  Speaker 4: That's a pretty good percentage. But I'm not with the FDA,
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  Speaker 4: but I know people. But just you know, I'm that
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  Speaker 4: guy at the cocktail party that any medical professional let
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  Speaker 4: tries to avoid because I'm like, hey, doc, it hurts
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  Speaker 4: when I but I'm going to ask you a question
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  Speaker 4: that's tangential to it. I come to know, and I
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  Speaker 4: was weird because I was just horribly inflexible as a kid.
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  Speaker 4: So when I was when I HEARDing it in my disk,
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  Speaker 4: I was twenty five, and which my orthopedis said, is unusual,
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  Speaker 4: an unusual age. But as we age, as we live longer,
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  Speaker 4: I mean I talk to insurance people who tell me
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  Speaker 4: that they have actual arial tables that go out to
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty, one hundred and forty on that
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  Speaker 4: possibility that we could live that long. As we live
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  Speaker 4: longer as a rule, is this becoming more prevalent that
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  Speaker 4: the back just I don't know whares out after a bit.
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I mean you know, you can kind of
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  Speaker 7: think that the whole spine like like a car, and
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  Speaker 7: by the time you get to sixty or seventy, it's
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  Speaker 7: a car with hundreds of thousands of miles on it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: you know, just kind of looking at an MRI a
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  Speaker 7: quick glance, I can pretty roughly tell you within I
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  Speaker 7: don't know, five or ten years, how old somebody is.
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  Speaker 7: And so as you get older, you're certainly much more
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  Speaker 7: likely to end up needing surgery or to have bad
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: problems if these degenerator changes really accumulate.
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  Speaker 4: And not that I want you to cut into your
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: future business, but are there I mean, there's so many
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  Speaker 4: ads about you know, this supplement, that supplement and it
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  Speaker 4: helps this, and it helps that. Are there lifestyle things
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  Speaker 4: that people can do to keep their discs that that
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  Speaker 4: cartilage in between all of the because it seems to
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  Speaker 4: me that's what brings somebody to your office stock. Is
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: that the cartilage you know, like in my case, herniate's
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  Speaker 4: or just wears away. Are there things we can do
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  Speaker 4: to keep that cartilage healthy?
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  Speaker 11: You know, there's things we can avoid.
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  Speaker 7: So any crazy stresses on the spine, deadlifting squat thrusts, you.
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  Speaker 11: Know, the spine is not designed to.
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: Lift hundreds of extra pounds.
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  Speaker 11: Things things like that are obvious no goes. Golf certainly, certainly.
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  Speaker 7: Play to take this toll on the spine, but as
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  Speaker 7: far as kind of things we can do to actively
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  Speaker 7: decrease the likelihood of running into issues in the future,
• 51:39
  Speaker 7: that's a there's not a lot of things that fall
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: in that category unfortunately.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I was just saying, you know, that's not very
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  Speaker 4: popular in Naples to tell people don't golf either, So.
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  Speaker 11: Yes, that's that's good.
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: Part of my goal most of the time is how
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: quick can I get your back out there playing with
• 51:56
  Speaker 7: your friends.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm sure that's just what the doctor wants
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  Speaker 4: to hear. Yeah, that's very good. Well doctor Frankel again,
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  Speaker 4: you know it's it's sem lift sem c E M
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  Speaker 4: l I F dot com.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 7: And if if your listeners go on there, there's a
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  Speaker 7: little contact form they can fill out if they'd like
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  Speaker 7: some more information or to see if they're a candidate.
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: A lot of folks who have already had a lumbar
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: fusion surgery recommended to them by a spine surgeon and.
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  Speaker 11: End up being a candidate.
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: But it really is on a case by case stays it, well,
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  Speaker 7: I appreciate it.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: It sounds like I appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 11: Thanks, thanks so much.
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  Speaker 4: And you have a great day. And if you see
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  Speaker 4: more back work there. I appreciate it. Doc.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, appreciate you.
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