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Chuck & Buck 6-25 Hour 4: Trade season! EJ 4's defensive domination and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: talk a little Major League baseball here, because obviously we
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Speaker 1: are in trade season. We don't exactly have a team
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Speaker 1: light in the world on Fire lost again last night
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Speaker 1: eleven to one, but they are a first place team,
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Speaker 1: and it looks like we are definitely going to be
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Speaker 1: at the trading deadline, and it's hard to kind of
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Speaker 1: figure out exactly what our needs are at this point.
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Speaker 1: If dom Canzone keeps playing this way, I don't think
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Speaker 1: we need another outfield. I think maybe he needs to
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Speaker 1: play every single day, even against lefties. Brendan Donovan's gonna
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Speaker 1: come back at some point. I don't know when. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if we have a third baseman. JP looked
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Speaker 1: pretty good initially, hasn't looked very good the last couple
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Speaker 1: of nights playing third base, but Brendan Donovan should be
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Speaker 1: back soon, So I don't know, do we need a
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Speaker 1: third baseman? Do we not need a third baseman. We
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Speaker 1: certainly need somebody that can hit a left hander, I
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Speaker 1: know that much. We certainly are gonna need some bullpen
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Speaker 1: help because we can't keep our big five healthy at
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Speaker 1: all times. And probably you can never have too many.
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Speaker 1: It's just like pass rushers in the NFL ross on
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Speaker 1: an NFL rosh. You can never have enough good bullpen
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Speaker 1: arms to go to. And it does feel light right now.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it should, but it feels light
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Speaker 1: right now for this team. The only thing that I
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Speaker 1: would safely say is what we don't need is a
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Speaker 1: starting pitcher, because we can't even figure out how to
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Speaker 1: make a five man rotation right now, and we may
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Speaker 1: be wasting our best picture in the entire organization down
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Speaker 1: in Arkansas, correct, because that dude can't get hit. They
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Speaker 1: cannot hit him. So I would say we don't need
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Speaker 1: a starting pitcher, But I would say creatively, pretty much
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Speaker 1: everything else is there. Catcher, starting pitcher, those two areas
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Speaker 1: we're going to go with what we got, But pretty
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Speaker 1: much anywhere else there's an argument to be made. You
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Speaker 1: can make an argument if it's the right piece. And
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Speaker 1: so since we are here at trade season, let's talk
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Speaker 1: a little bit about what could be on the horizon.
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Speaker 1: And one of the reasons that I wanted to do
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Speaker 1: this little exercise today is because number one, I love.
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Speaker 2: It right, you're a big trade fan, yes.
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Speaker 1: And then number two, I've been touting Byron Buxton quite
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Speaker 1: a bit. I think it's the perfect fit. I think
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Speaker 1: it's somebody that can hit lefties, but of course he
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Speaker 1: mashes righties. I think it's somebody that improves our defense.
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Speaker 1: And I don't care how you want to play it.
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Speaker 1: You could keep Julio in center if you don't want
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Speaker 1: to hurt feelings. We're really worried about hurt feelings this year.
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Speaker 1: I'd personally not worry about hurt feelings if I got
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Speaker 1: Byron Buxton, and I would put Byron Buxton in center
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Speaker 1: field and Julio, I think, is eventually going to be
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Speaker 1: our right fielder anyway. And I just go ahead and
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Speaker 1: make that move, because you don't just get Buston. He's
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Speaker 1: not a rental. You get Buxton for two more years
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Speaker 1: beyond this year. So that's three good runs. Now he's
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Speaker 1: got an injury history, which of course is something that
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Speaker 1: has been saddled to Byron Buxton every single year, every
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Speaker 1: single moment of every single game. Twins fans are worried
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Speaker 1: that that play may have injured Byron Buxton again. But
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Speaker 1: he has been healthy er the last three seasons, and
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Speaker 1: he has been healthy ist so far this season. And
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Speaker 1: so if I get a chance at him, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to use it to my advantage to kind of drive
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Speaker 1: down his price in a trade. But it's not going
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Speaker 1: to scare me off from acquiring him, nor would it
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Speaker 1: scare me off that Well, then we'd have two center fielders.
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Speaker 1: What do we do? No, I'll figure that out as well,
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Speaker 1: because whether I put Buckston a left field, center field
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Speaker 1: or right field, I know he's going to make our
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Speaker 1: defense better. I know he's going to make us faster,
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Speaker 1: and I know that he hits the crap out of
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Speaker 1: the ball. So that's the guy that I have my
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Speaker 1: eye on. And he would be here for two years
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Speaker 1: beyond this at just fifteen million dollars a year. In
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Speaker 1: other words, Randy A. Rose Arena hits free agent in
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Speaker 1: the free agency in the offseason, coming off of maybe
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Speaker 1: the best year of his career prices himself out of
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Speaker 1: John Stanton's market. And now we've got the replacement for
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Speaker 1: Randy or Rose Arena at that salary for the next
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Speaker 1: two seasons, and a better player, and a better teammate
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Speaker 1: and a better hitter. All of it we get at
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Speaker 1: the exact same price for the next two years. So
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Speaker 1: that's something that intrigues me as well. Now they have
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Speaker 1: said that he's not going to wave his no trade contract.
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Speaker 1: Let me take that back. He has said he's not.
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Speaker 1: They does not apply here. He himself has said I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to wave my no trade clause in my contract.
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Speaker 1: So Byron Buxton seems to love Minnesota, wants to stay
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Speaker 1: in Minnesota. I have argued on the air before, and
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Speaker 1: I'll just remind you my thoughts on it now that
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Speaker 1: I know he's saying that. But I think he's saying
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Speaker 1: that to protect himself from being traded anywhere the Twins
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Speaker 1: want to send him. I think he does have a
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Speaker 1: list of there's no way I'm playing for them. I
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Speaker 1: think he's a smaller, small town guy who does not
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Speaker 1: want to play in a big market. Doesn't matter how
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Speaker 1: good The Yankees, Dodgers and other teams are. I think
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Speaker 1: he's a small town guy. I think that's why he
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Speaker 1: wraps himself on that Minneapolis cloak right now, and so
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Speaker 1: I think that he would be open to going to
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Speaker 1: a better team like Seattle, smaller market where it might
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Speaker 1: actually work to our advantage this time. I think he
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Speaker 1: would accept a trade to the Atlanta Braves, who this year,
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Speaker 1: unlike last year, do look like a World Series contender. Again,
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Speaker 1: that's his hometown. I think he would accept that. I
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Speaker 1: think there's some places that if it came down to it,
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Speaker 1: he would leave Minnesota for. But I think he is
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Speaker 1: saying I'm staying in Minnesota. I'm happy to be in Minnesota,
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Speaker 1: just so that he doesn't open himself up to be
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Speaker 1: traded to someplace he doesn't want to go. But I
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Speaker 1: think he'd wave it. Most of the time, the players
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Speaker 1: do wave it. But you do have to mention this.
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Speaker 1: Twins are still in the race. So they also said
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Speaker 1: just yesterday, we're not even considering trading Byron Buxton because
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Speaker 1: they're right now in the Wildcard race like most teams
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Speaker 1: are right now. So there's some tricky things to it.
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Speaker 1: There's no question about it. We might have a completely
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Speaker 1: different scenario one month from now, I mean trade deadlines
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Speaker 1: August second. It's June twenty fifth, right now. A month
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Speaker 1: from now, Byron Buxton might feel differently, The Twins might
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Speaker 1: feel differently, the Mariners might feel differently. We don't know
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen after a month of baseball, but
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Speaker 1: I'm going to for the point of this exercise, explore
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Speaker 1: some other names that could be available that Jeff Passen
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Speaker 1: has recently brought to light. But make no mistake about it,
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Speaker 1: my number one choice is Byron Buxton added to this
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Speaker 1: team at the trading deadline, and we'd have to give
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Speaker 1: up quite a bit in order to get him, but
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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. That is a win now move,
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Speaker 1: That is a win for the next three years kind
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Speaker 1: of move that Jerry and Justin could pull off. Then.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you've been high on Buxton for quite a while,
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Speaker 2: and I do think that everything he could bring to
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Speaker 2: this team would be obviously in one player, a big
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Speaker 2: bump up, as he said, with Randy Roseraina potentially being
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Speaker 2: done with this team after this year, and just kind
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Speaker 2: of a swap salary. I mean, that works. That seems
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Speaker 2: like something the Mariners would be interested in doing. Not
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Speaker 2: adding more, but just being able to stay where they're
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Speaker 2: at ye and bring in someone they think it could
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Speaker 2: be a better fit.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, add some money for the rest of this season
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Speaker 1: to your payroll. But by next season obviously they're like, okay,
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Speaker 1: we're going to keep him for full year. Well, that's
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Speaker 1: the natural trade off, is that you're going to probably
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Speaker 1: have Rosarina's money off the books, and Buxton just slides
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Speaker 1: right in and takes his salary, So you're not adding
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Speaker 1: to payroll in any way if you added Byron Buxton.
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Speaker 1: But this is about this exercise today is about other
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Speaker 1: people who might be available, and Jeff Passing he's locked
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Speaker 1: in and he's very good. He pulled out a top
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Speaker 1: one hundred. He rated the top one hundred guys who
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Speaker 1: could be available at the trading deadline coming up in
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Speaker 1: a month, and he did ride ups on the top fifty.
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Speaker 1: I believe now I'm doing this for memory. I believe
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Speaker 1: it was the top fifty guys who did ride ups
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Speaker 1: and put percentages next to him, like what you know,
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Speaker 1: what percentage is it that they're going to be traded?
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Speaker 1: And then there was also a portion of it that
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Speaker 1: said the likely can and it's this person could be
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Speaker 1: traded two well, of the fifty guys that he listed,
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Speaker 1: there were only three where the Mariners were listed among
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Speaker 1: the teams that would be interested in said player, and
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Speaker 1: the three names are Saya Suzuki of the Chicago Cubs,
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Speaker 1: their power hitting, right handed veteran hitter whose contract expires
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Speaker 1: at the end of this year, so that'd be a
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Speaker 1: rental a role this Chapman, the I never age flamethrower
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Speaker 1: of the Boston Red Sox whose contract also would expire
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Speaker 1: at the end of this season, relief pitcher, and then
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Speaker 1: Jaren Duran, once again being brought up in Mariner's possibility
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Speaker 1: rumors in the overcrowded Boston outfield. Somebody that might not
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Speaker 1: fit in that clubhouse has two more years left on
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Speaker 1: his deal after this year, but at a really reasonable rate,
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Speaker 1: and so he listed him as well as somebody that
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Speaker 1: the Mariners might be interested in. Here are the reasons
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Speaker 1: why it probably wouldn't happen. I don't think that the
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Speaker 1: rental thing is an issue anymore after what we saw
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Speaker 1: from the team a year ago with Naylor and Suarez
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Speaker 1: being added and it worked, so I think they're kind
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Speaker 1: of over that hurdle. Before they wouldn't really add a
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Speaker 1: rental player. I don't think the rental aspect is the
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Speaker 1: problem here. Problem is I don't. I mean, the Cubs
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Speaker 1: are forty three and thirty seven. They are a wild
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Speaker 1: card team right now. I have no idea why Suzuki's
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Speaker 1: even on this list. I mean, they're not selling, and
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Speaker 1: they're certainly not selling a middle of the order hitter
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Speaker 1: off of their team. It doesn't matter how much pitching
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Speaker 1: that they need. They're not moving Saya Suzuki before the
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Speaker 1: trading deadline. So I don't even think it's even really
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Speaker 1: worth considering, even though great fit. Yeah, be really excited
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Speaker 1: about that. You know, DH right field whatever, I mean,
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Speaker 1: he can he can hit everything. He can have left
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Speaker 1: these righties, you know, multiple armed people, one armed people,
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Speaker 1: he'll them. Yeah, he can hit them all. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: I like the idea of adding him as a rental
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Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. I just don't see
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Speaker 1: a world where he makes himself available a role as
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Speaker 1: Chapman would be really interesting. To just drop him into
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Speaker 1: that bullpen. You go probably to the top bullpen, even
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Speaker 1: better than San Diego's with that move. Now that Muno
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Speaker 1: seems to be fixed, so interesting. I'm interested one thing
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Speaker 1: that you do have to take on, and they seem
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Speaker 1: to be a lot more interested in clubhouse chemistry now
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Speaker 1: than they were even two three years ago with the
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Speaker 1: Seattle Mariners organization. I don't know if he's the best teammate.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's the most likable guy out there,
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Speaker 1: and so that might hamstring it. But he's also somebody
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Speaker 1: that was rented by the Chicago Cubs once upon a
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Speaker 1: time in a similar situation, and he closed out a
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Speaker 1: World Series for the Chicago Cubs. So he's he's fulfilled
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Speaker 1: that role before in the past and has actually excelled
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Speaker 1: in it. So I think that is name to keep
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Speaker 1: an eye on, possibly, and for whatever reason, he repeatedly
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Speaker 1: is getting mentioned to the Mariners and then Jared Durant
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Speaker 1: just quickly on him. I like him as a player.
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Speaker 1: There are there are some issues with him. There are
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Speaker 1: some issues, and everybody in the league knows it. He's
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Speaker 1: he's had some psychological issues in the past, and a
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Speaker 1: lot of teams are scared off by that. The Red
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Speaker 1: Sox are scared off by that. They've been trying to
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Speaker 1: get rid of him for a couple of years. And
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Speaker 1: they can't really get any takers. But we've seen him play.
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Speaker 1: He can play play defense, great defense, fast power, pop.
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Speaker 1: He's a player. But obviously all of baseball's a little
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Speaker 1: worried about trading a lot to get somebody that they're
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Speaker 1: not exactly sure how they're wired. And then let's add
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Speaker 1: one other thing. He's a left handed hitter. That's we
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Speaker 1: don't need another left handed hitter, because yeah, we don't
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Speaker 1: need another one to clog up our already left the
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Speaker 1: dominant lineup. So of those three candidates, I'd say Chapman
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Speaker 1: sounds the most likely. I wouldn't say most interesting, but
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Speaker 1: the most likely. As a matter of fact, I think
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Speaker 1: it's the only one that they would be interested in
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Speaker 1: in the group. And so that's what we had on
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Speaker 1: his list. I was surprised that he only had three players,
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Speaker 1: and the Mariners matched up with those three players. There
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Speaker 1: were a few other guys on his list that might
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Speaker 1: make some sense for the Mariners. Let's go through those.
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Speaker 1: Wilson Contreras, we just watched him in the Red Sox series.
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Speaker 1: He's having arguably the best year of his career now
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Speaker 1: that he's settled in as a first baseman. Now we
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Speaker 1: don't need a first baseman, but he can DH and
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Speaker 1: be an emergency catcher. I suppose he was just catching
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Speaker 1: two years ago and had for almost all of his career.
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Speaker 1: He's having a great year now like Chapman, even more
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Speaker 1: so than Chapman, because he's an everyday player. Oh, there's
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Speaker 1: an attitude there, and I think it wears out. It's
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Speaker 1: welcome pretty quickly. I think maybe it could infuse some
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Speaker 1: fight into this team that they could use. Frankly, but
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Speaker 1: he never makes friends wherever he goes, whether on his
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Speaker 1: own team or the other team. Wow, maybe we could
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Speaker 1: benefit from that and a short spurt like for the
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Speaker 1: rest of this season. By then, you if you trade
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Speaker 1: for him, you're also treading to keep him next year.
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Speaker 1: Same thing with like a Rose Arena. Seventeen million is
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Speaker 1: what he's scheduled to make next year. A Rose Arena
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Speaker 1: makes seventeen million right now. So you just swap those
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Speaker 1: out and you are committing yourself to a DH. Because
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Speaker 1: he's not a better first baseman defensively than Josh Naylor,
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Speaker 1: but you'd.
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Speaker 2: Have a backup in case of a Naylor injury or
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Speaker 2: a day off or anything exactly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he could play some first base. I think he
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Speaker 1: could still probably put the catcher's gear on at this stage.
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Speaker 1: But it's interesting. He certainly would add an element to
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Speaker 1: this line that we could use, and maybe he adds
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Speaker 1: a little bit of grit that we could use as well.
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Speaker 1: Matt Chapman is an interesting one. I don't like Matt Chapman.
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Speaker 1: I think Matt Chapman is overrated, and I think he's
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Speaker 1: been overrated his entire career. And the Giants are paying
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Speaker 1: for the fact that they thought he was a twenty
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Speaker 1: five million dollar player, and they are locked in with
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Speaker 1: him till twenty thirty, which is why they're trying to
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Speaker 1: move him. They want to get rid of him. They
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Speaker 1: also want to get rid of Rafael Devers, Willie Adamas,
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Speaker 1: and anything else that makes money, because they spend a
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Speaker 1: lot of money on a really bad baseball team. So
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Speaker 1: Matt Chapman is a part of that. Maybe not the reason,
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Speaker 1: maybe not the cause, the person to blame, but he
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Speaker 1: is certainly a part of being overpaid on a bad
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Speaker 1: baseball team, and so they're going to try to get
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Speaker 1: rid of him. Now. I know the Mariners don't want
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Speaker 1: him at twenty five million dollars but I also know
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Speaker 1: the Mariners have been interested in Matt Chapman four years,
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Speaker 1: and with all this third base uncertainty, you certainly are
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Speaker 1: going to get an everyday third baseman who plays Gold
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Speaker 1: Glove caliber third base. And our defense has been weak
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Speaker 1: this year. It'd be nice to have one more answer
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Speaker 1: on defense that we don't have to worry about when
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Speaker 1: the balls hit to him. So there's some value here.
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Speaker 1: Could you get creative? Could you say, hey, we'll give
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Speaker 1: you Luis Castillo for him. And even though the Giants
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Speaker 1: don't want a pitcher right now, they're going to start
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Speaker 1: a rebuild, a massive rebuild, in order to get through
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Speaker 1: a long get rid of a longer term contract for
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Speaker 1: a shorter term contract. It's kind of like an NBA move.
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Speaker 1: The Giants might be interested in, Hey, we're out from
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Speaker 1: underneath Castillo in a year and a half, we're locked
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Speaker 1: into Chapman for the next three and a half seasons.
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Speaker 1: We'll make this trade and then you know, the Mariners,
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Speaker 1: they would get through that exchange and by twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: seven they'd be looking to dump him for anything, because
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Speaker 1: you know they're not going to want to pay him
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Speaker 1: through twenty thirty. That could be a creative way to
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Speaker 1: go about this. And then the third guy is, let's
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Speaker 1: face it, he's always going to be a candidate in
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Speaker 1: our eyes, Geno Suarez, do you imagine bringing him back
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Speaker 1: a third time?
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Speaker 2: I actually thought about that not that long ago, and
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Speaker 2: I thought, would that just be the cruelest thing we
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Speaker 2: could do at this point to just keep bringing him back?
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Speaker 2: And then and then he goes as a free agent
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Speaker 2: and signed somewhere else every off season because the Mariners
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Speaker 2: don't want to pay him enough. But he's good enough
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Speaker 2: that we want to bring him back at half his
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Speaker 2: salary every year.
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Speaker 1: He's not having a good year and the Reds have
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Speaker 1: kind of fallen out of the race, so he is
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Speaker 1: going to be available again.
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Speaker 2: Poor Gino.
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Speaker 1: I don't think we'd do it. I'm with you. I
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Speaker 1: don't think that they would go down that road again,
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Speaker 1: but he could end up being a cheap alternative at
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Speaker 1: some point in the season. And then, just quickly, I'm
18:44
Speaker 1: just going to mention two other guys because I think
18:45
Speaker 1: this is clever, and I'm going to give your friend
18:47
Speaker 1: Alex Sakida a little bit of credit because I didn't
18:49
Speaker 1: think of this. Royce Lewis from the Minnesota Twins, who
18:54
Speaker 1: is a former number one overall pick in the draft,
18:57
Speaker 1: and when he's been healthy as a Twin, he has
19:00
Speaker 1: been ultra productive. But he can't stay healthy. He's played
19:05
Speaker 1: the most games he's played in a season as one
19:06
Speaker 1: hundred and six. He's only played forty eight again this year,
19:09
Speaker 1: and this year for whatever reason, he's not playing well.
19:11
Speaker 1: Oh but he doesn't make any money. He's incredibly talented,
19:16
Speaker 1: and he's signed through twenty twenty nine, and you probably
19:19
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to give up much of anything in order
19:22
Speaker 1: to get him where he's at in his current state
19:25
Speaker 1: in his career. Might not be a bad roll of
19:28
Speaker 1: the dice, because if that guy clicks back in and
19:31
Speaker 1: you can keep him on the field, oh he could be.
19:34
Speaker 1: He's a practice He's one of those aircraft carrier types.
19:36
Speaker 1: When he gets hot, I mean, he gets as hot
19:38
Speaker 1: as anybody. That's a pretty interesting idea. I'm gonna throw
19:42
Speaker 1: out another former Mariner as one more clever idea, okay,
19:46
Speaker 1: Jorge Polanco.
19:47
Speaker 2: Oh well, when you said Gino, then I of course
19:49
Speaker 2: immediately thought of Jorge.
19:50
Speaker 1: He hit three h five against lefties last year, which
19:53
Speaker 1: is what we need. He had two home runs off
19:56
Speaker 1: Trek Scoobl in the playoffs last year. I mean he
20:00
Speaker 1: has not played for the Mets. He went for the money,
20:03
Speaker 1: he got hurt. He hasn't even played for the Mets.
20:07
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be back after the All Star break.
20:09
Speaker 1: Now he makes two years forty million dollars, which there's
20:11
Speaker 1: no way the Mariners want to pay that. But then again,
20:14
Speaker 1: we've got this Castillo contract, and this too many starting
20:17
Speaker 1: pitchers for too few of a spots situation. This actually
20:20
Speaker 1: could be a perfect little exchange they make. Polongo actually
20:24
Speaker 1: makes less money than Castillo over the course of the
20:27
Speaker 1: next year and a half. If we're worried about Castillo
20:30
Speaker 1: not being a functioning bullpen piece, but we know he's
20:33
Speaker 1: not one of our top five starting pitchers, then why
20:36
Speaker 1: not Castillo for Polonco for the next year and a half.
20:40
Speaker 1: Bring Polonko back, and we've got ourselves somebody that we
20:45
Speaker 1: know has hit lefties recently, and somebody that knows and
20:48
Speaker 1: loves our clubhouse.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that one. You wouldn't feel as cruel.
20:55
Speaker 1: I guess, no, right, cruel at all? I mean he
20:57
Speaker 1: left they wanted it back.
20:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, doesn't feel as cruel as just hejina, we
21:02
Speaker 2: only need you for this short amount of time and
21:03
Speaker 2: then we can't. We're family up here, yeah exactly, Yeah,
21:08
Speaker 2: yeah we're done. Yeah I can see it.
21:10
Speaker 1: Then your good rides can hit the road. But yeah,
21:13
Speaker 1: all right, anyway, just some thoughts. Trade season is here.
21:17
Speaker 1: Sometimes I can't help myself and I feel a lot
21:19
Speaker 1: better now. Uh, We've got Seahawks recap coming up next
21:22
Speaker 1: our Seawks one series. And so if you didn't hear
21:26
Speaker 1: Softy's thought on thoughts on Ernest Jones will replace some
21:29
Speaker 1: of that for you next on kJ R.
21:40
Speaker 2: But I like your edition of.
21:48
Speaker 1: My Bobby McClaren just make up music with my body.
21:52
Speaker 2: You just walk around all the time, not worrying, You're just.
21:54
Speaker 1: Happy, yeah exactly. If he wants to make some percussion,
21:58
Speaker 1: he figures out a way to do it under his arm.
21:59
Speaker 2: Pit, as he should. Although don't do that in school kids,
22:02
Speaker 2: you will get detention for it. I know from experience.
22:04
Speaker 1: You've got to be a professional music body musician like
22:07
Speaker 1: Bobby McFerrin Grammy Award winner to get away with that. Yep, yeap.
22:10
Speaker 1: Basically you can do it under your leg too, As
22:13
Speaker 1: it turns out, oh yeah, for an even more robust musical.
22:16
Speaker 2: Note that one might not have gotten me detention.
22:20
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and you can just do it straight with
22:22
Speaker 1: your mouth, as McFerrin has taught me. Yes, that goes
22:24
Speaker 1: straight to the fart noise. That's pretty easy and convenient.
22:28
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a you know, kind of like
22:30
Speaker 1: a kazoo. Anybody can play it, I guess.
22:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can just blow into it the mouth kazoos,
22:37
Speaker 2: but some people all are better at it.
22:39
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not saying you can be. I'm
22:41
Speaker 1: not saying you could go to Carnegie Hall on it. Yeah.
22:45
Speaker 2: Yeah. When you said kazoo, I thought harmonica, and I
22:47
Speaker 2: was like, I don't think anybody. Maybe you could just
22:49
Speaker 2: make noise, but you can make noise kazoo or like
22:53
Speaker 2: the party things. Yeah, yeah, anyone can make noise out
22:57
Speaker 2: of that.
22:57
Speaker 1: Bobby McFerrin can do that with his tonsils.
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Speaker 2: Wow, he is a special human.
23:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is Chuck, it is Ashley with you. It
23:04
Speaker 1: is time for our Seahawks one series recap. We've been
23:07
Speaker 1: doing this all month long, and we have till tomorrow.
23:10
Speaker 1: That tomorrow is our last day, and yet I'm kind
23:13
Speaker 1: of frustrated about a couple of things. So maybe tomorrow
23:15
Speaker 1: won't be our last day. Yeah, I'd explain that later.
23:18
Speaker 2: I'd have to make some adjustments.
23:20
Speaker 1: We might have to make some adjustments, kind of like
23:21
Speaker 1: Bobby McFerrin.
23:23
Speaker 2: That's really the motto.
23:25
Speaker 1: We live by my leg go my leg pit is broken.
23:28
Speaker 1: But I really want to make this really loud fard noise.
23:31
Speaker 1: How am I going to do it?
23:33
Speaker 2: And then it's what can I do with my belly?
23:35
Speaker 1: Yeah? Maybe I can do it with my belly. Who knows?
23:38
Speaker 1: But anyway, so tomorrow will be the last day of it.
23:41
Speaker 1: Every single show during June, we've had a different analyst
23:45
Speaker 1: on to break down one key Seahawk player for one
23:47
Speaker 1: entire interview. Yesterday we had our own David Softy Malert
23:51
Speaker 1: with us, and he chose our middle linebacker Ernest Jones.
23:55
Speaker 1: And yes, John Schneider did it again at the trading
23:59
Speaker 1: day deadline three years in a row. But Jones is
24:02
Speaker 1: really the one that was you know, he was the
24:05
Speaker 1: one in the middle. Leonard Williams was the one that
24:07
Speaker 1: got this run started. But then Ernest Jones has added
24:10
Speaker 1: to that lexicon. Here's Softy.
24:12
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's ever been a Seattle Sports team.
24:17
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about the Mariners, the Sonics at the deadline,
24:20
Speaker 3: the cracking at the deadline, the Seahawks up until the
24:23
Speaker 3: last couple of years at the deadline where they've gone
24:25
Speaker 3: out three years in a row and just hit a
24:28
Speaker 3: home run the way John Schneider has at the trade deadline.
24:31
Speaker 3: First was Leonard Williams that it was Ernest Jones, and
24:34
Speaker 3: then it was Rashid Shiheed, Right, I mean, that's three
24:36
Speaker 3: years in a row where they just hit frecking bombs
24:39
Speaker 3: at the deadline, So good for them. And then number two,
24:42
Speaker 3: the difference between this franchise and maybe other teams in
24:45
Speaker 3: town and other franchises in the NFL. Does anybody remember
24:49
Speaker 3: the famous linebacker duo of Dotson and Baker from back
24:52
Speaker 3: in the day. Yeah, yeah, remember those two knuckleheads. And
24:55
Speaker 3: John Schneider and Mike McDonald looked at those guys and
24:58
Speaker 3: just said, not, this ain't gonna work. We gonna get
25:00
Speaker 3: to go where we want to go with those two
25:02
Speaker 3: guys running around at linebacker, Let's go make a move
25:05
Speaker 3: for Ernest Jones. So the fact that they gave up
25:07
Speaker 3: on both of them and swallowed their pride more John Schneider,
25:11
Speaker 3: I would think Chuck than McDonald. But the fact that
25:13
Speaker 3: they were able to just you know, admit a mistake
25:15
Speaker 3: and just not compounding the mistake and go out and
25:18
Speaker 3: get Ernest Jones of the deadline. I just think it
25:21
Speaker 3: just shows you where this team is at in regards
25:23
Speaker 3: to winning. I mean, it's the number one thing. It's
25:25
Speaker 3: all that matters. Nothing else matters besides championships for this franchise.
25:30
Speaker 3: And they prove it with moves like that. So that's
25:33
Speaker 3: number two and then number three. I just remember watching
25:36
Speaker 3: Ernest Jones play when he first showed up, and I'm
25:38
Speaker 3: asking myself, why the hell did the Rams and Titans
25:41
Speaker 3: give this guy up?
25:41
Speaker 1: Yeah?
25:42
Speaker 3: Like what I mean, what was it about Ernest Jones
25:45
Speaker 3: that wasn't working there? Because I think you're right over all, Chuck,
25:49
Speaker 3: And I've said the same thing that the best thing
25:51
Speaker 3: this team does is the brain of Mike McDonald, right.
25:55
Speaker 3: I mean, his schemes, his philosophy, his defense. He is
25:59
Speaker 3: the absolute number one reason I believe why the team
26:03
Speaker 3: is where they're at right now. With John Schneider right
26:06
Speaker 3: behind him, but man for him to identify Mike McDonald,
26:10
Speaker 3: Excuse me for Mike to identify Ernest Jones and Tennessee
26:13
Speaker 3: even looking back at maybe some of his ram tape
26:16
Speaker 3: and say, hey, this guy's a good player, but kind
26:19
Speaker 3: of nondescript.
26:20
Speaker 1: Right.
26:20
Speaker 3: Not many people around the NFL are talking about Ernest Jones.
26:23
Speaker 3: And then he comes here and he's basically the leader
26:26
Speaker 3: of the best defense in the NFL. It's unbelievable.
26:29
Speaker 1: A pick from heaven, A pick from Heaven Ernest Jones,
26:33
Speaker 1: if Heaven had foul mouth danger, which my Heaven does. Well,
26:37
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't mean they're bad people, right.
26:40
Speaker 2: Oh, it just means they have colorful language.
26:42
Speaker 1: They do, and they like to express themselves through the
26:45
Speaker 1: majesty of curse words. But yeah, I'm with him. I
26:50
Speaker 1: mean they're they're killing it the trading deadline, and the
26:52
Speaker 1: National Football League doesn't have a history for being all
26:56
Speaker 1: that aggressive in trades. It's getting more so that way,
27:00
Speaker 1: which I love, you know how much I love trades.
27:02
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard the nine o'clock segment.
27:03
Speaker 2: Never heard it, No, I was in here.
27:07
Speaker 1: But the NFL as a whole is getting more aggressive
27:09
Speaker 1: about that, and I think that plays to John Schneider's
27:12
Speaker 1: strengths because he might be the best in the business
27:15
Speaker 1: at pulling off trades in the National Football League in
27:19
Speaker 1: three deadlines in a row, come away with Leonard Williams,
27:21
Speaker 1: Ernest Jones, and Rashid Shaheed, all great pieces to that
27:26
Speaker 1: championship run last season. Here's the other thing. And I
27:30
Speaker 1: brought this up to Softy. I think people see Ernest Jones.
27:36
Speaker 1: I know I do, and I see just an older person.
27:39
Speaker 1: Plus he played for the Rams and then he was
27:41
Speaker 1: with the Titans. And sometimes when you're exposed to a
27:45
Speaker 1: team twice per year with the Rams, you convince yourself,
27:49
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, that that guy's been around forever. Oh,
27:52
Speaker 1: I had Ernest Jones. Seems like he's been in a
27:54
Speaker 1: pain in r ass for a decade.
27:55
Speaker 2: Like the same amount of time as Aaron Donald.
27:58
Speaker 1: And then he goes to the Titans. Now he's been
28:00
Speaker 1: on two different teams, and it kind of felt like
28:03
Speaker 1: when we traded for him, I'm like, well, there's a
28:05
Speaker 1: good veteran we can get the last year or two
28:07
Speaker 1: of his career. And now he's been a Seahawk for
28:09
Speaker 1: two years. He's still just twenty six years old.
28:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very young.
28:13
Speaker 1: He's twenty six. It's he's got an older face, so
28:18
Speaker 1: I think maybe looks older. He is twenty six. There's
28:21
Speaker 1: no reason he couldn't play at the top of his
28:23
Speaker 1: game for the next five years minimum. I mean, he's
28:27
Speaker 1: going to be around here for a while. As he said,
28:30
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. He told us that before he
28:32
Speaker 1: signed his contract extension. Yeah. Uh. And so I think
28:36
Speaker 1: that I'm not saying that wor we haven't seen the
28:40
Speaker 1: best of Ernest Jones. We probably have, but there's no
28:42
Speaker 1: reason why the best we've seen about Ernest Jones won't
28:45
Speaker 1: last for a good while longer.
28:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm not saying that Ernest Jones is on
28:49
Speaker 2: the level of Bobby Wagner, But we thought we'd seen
28:51
Speaker 2: the best of Bobby Wagner, and Bobby Wagner still had
28:54
Speaker 2: a lot to give, And so I think that Ernest
28:57
Speaker 2: Jones still has a lot to give.
28:58
Speaker 1: I think he has a lot to give a lot
29:00
Speaker 1: and that loss it's capital l and they give it,
29:03
Speaker 1: and it gives you sort of comfort because you really
29:05
Speaker 1: do have to kind of remind yourself, like, oh, if
29:07
Speaker 1: we can get two more years out of Ernest Jones,
29:08
Speaker 1: wait a minute, twenty six and we can get seven
29:12
Speaker 1: more years out of Ernest Jones at middle linebacker, we're
29:15
Speaker 1: gonna be in real I mean, that's there's no reason
29:18
Speaker 1: why he couldn't play for at least five more years
29:20
Speaker 1: at his level, and at middle linebacker even beyond, because
29:23
Speaker 1: that's one of the few positions in the National Football
29:25
Speaker 1: League where you're gonna afford to lose a half a
29:27
Speaker 1: step and still because it's played so much with instincts
29:31
Speaker 1: and technique, uh and and know how and knowledge. Yeah,
29:36
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be around for a while. You
29:38
Speaker 1: can still wreck crap. Yeah, Ernest Jones been huge for
29:42
Speaker 1: this team. All right, one last thing next Sports Radio
29:44
Speaker 1: ninety three point three kJ a R FM, hard fine
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Speaker 1: old segment here of our radio program, and then we're
29:58
Speaker 1: gonna hand things off to Greg here at kJ R
30:02
Speaker 1: and so we got one last thing to cover. That's
30:05
Speaker 1: what we do with the close out every show. What's
30:06
Speaker 1: the big deal? Why are you looking at me that way?
30:08
Speaker 2: Audience and stop looking at me, Swan.
30:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what we do every day. You're acting
30:14
Speaker 1: like you're hearing it for the first time.
30:16
Speaker 2: You got so Ian Farness had Bobby McMahon on yesterday.
30:20
Speaker 2: You may know Bobby McMahon, I've heard a pretty good
30:22
Speaker 2: hockey player going to be here for a while.
30:25
Speaker 1: It sounds like a professional wrestler, doesn't he Bobby McMahon,
30:28
Speaker 1: Bobby mc.
30:31
Speaker 2: Animal man, Okay, well now we should call him that
30:34
Speaker 2: for sure. So he Bobby told Ian that Jordan Everley
30:39
Speaker 2: wrote a message on a stick for him to come
30:41
Speaker 2: back to Seattle and that that was just the meant
30:44
Speaker 2: a lot. It was a very cool thing, and I
30:45
Speaker 2: just thought that's cool. Like it's just like when you
30:48
Speaker 2: hear you know, DeMarcus Lawrence calling Dante Fowler Junior and
30:52
Speaker 2: saying like you got to come here, man. What We've
30:53
Speaker 2: got a special for Jordan every to be like we
30:56
Speaker 2: need you here man, Like we could do some some
30:58
Speaker 2: stuff and write it on it. I just thought that
31:00
Speaker 2: was a cool, cool touch.
31:02
Speaker 1: I think though the word is out and I think
31:05
Speaker 1: that the I'm not trying to kiss up to our
31:07
Speaker 1: listening audience. I think the word is out on players
31:10
Speaker 1: liking to play in this city, and I think that
31:14
Speaker 1: the fan base has something to do with it, despite
31:18
Speaker 1: all the angry Twitter people. Yeah, and then I think
31:23
Speaker 1: I think the reputation of the krack and organization is out.
31:26
Speaker 1: I mean, think about what Bobby McMahon did. He showed
31:28
Speaker 1: up here and the team fell apart. He was playing well, Yeah,
31:32
Speaker 1: the team completely fell apart, and yet he still signed
31:35
Speaker 1: here and what appeared to me to be less than
31:38
Speaker 1: market value. I mean that wasn't even a long drawn
31:41
Speaker 1: out process.
31:42
Speaker 2: No, it didn't seem to be any back and forth
31:44
Speaker 2: or oh they're struggling to meet a negotiation. Well happened.
31:48
Speaker 1: Whatever happened, Like he he got embraced in the locker room.
31:53
Speaker 1: Jordan Eberley was smart enough to say, we want to
31:55
Speaker 1: keep this guy and started the recruiting process. Whatever interaction
32:01
Speaker 1: he had with the fan base, even though the team
32:02
Speaker 1: wasn't winning down the stretch, he liked. And whatever is
32:06
Speaker 1: going on with the organization, he was down with. Uh so,
32:10
Speaker 1: and I think they I think he be in the marriag.
32:11
Speaker 1: I think for a long time players are like Seattle
32:15
Speaker 1: no chance in baseball. But even that's changed now here
32:18
Speaker 1: in the last few years. I mean, Geno keeps one
32:20
Speaker 1: to come back.
32:21
Speaker 2: Here, we got Naylor to stay. Was going to happen.
32:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's this and then the Seahawks forget about it.
32:27
Speaker 1: I think every NFL defensive player in the world wants
32:30
Speaker 1: to play for Mike McDonald right now, maybe offense too. Yeah.
32:33
Speaker 2: I don't blame him.
32:34
Speaker 1: It's good run. Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah exactly. He speaking
32:40
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks. I do want to mention this, we
32:42
Speaker 1: are going to extend our Seahawks one series into next week.
32:46
Speaker 1: That was not the plan. But no one chose Emon
32:49
Speaker 1: Worri and no one chose Leonard Williams.
32:54
Speaker 2: Yeah.
32:55
Speaker 1: I can't in good conscious do an entire month of
32:58
Speaker 1: breaking down interesting SEK players and maybe leave out the
33:01
Speaker 1: two most interesting.
33:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, And people are like, wait, what about tomorrow. There's
33:06
Speaker 2: a possibility for tomorrow. I mean we could tell them
33:08
Speaker 2: who we have on tomorrow, right uh yeah, John Ryan,
33:12
Speaker 2: So I don't think he's gonna be breaking down Nicky
33:14
Speaker 2: mon Warrior or Leonard Williams. Yeah, I'm just gonna go
33:16
Speaker 2: out on a limb here.
33:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. We've decided to kind of tight cast him, yeah,
33:21
Speaker 1: into talking about because we've never I've never done a coach.
33:26
Speaker 1: We did that today, yeah, which I liked. And we've
33:28
Speaker 1: never done a kicker or punter.
33:30
Speaker 2: Yeah.
33:31
Speaker 1: So for the first time, we're gonna do at least Dixon.
33:34
Speaker 1: We might cross over both of them. So that, yeah,
33:36
Speaker 1: that's tomorrow. But there's no way I'm gonna get down
33:39
Speaker 1: with this series and not have somebody break down Eman Worri.
33:42
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna sign him to Hugh next week. Yeah,
33:44
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign Leonard Williams to Greg yep because they
33:47
Speaker 1: don't know it yet. But they don't know it. But yeah,
33:49
Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna do. So We're gonna ask a
33:52
Speaker 1: little bit of our our two special guys to do
33:55
Speaker 1: a little special breakdown of two of our most special players.
33:58
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna fish the Seahawks one series without
34:01
Speaker 1: doing Emon worry a.
34:02
Speaker 2: Big cat, that's right.
34:04
Speaker 1: Also, last thing, Diana Russini yesterday? What did you think
34:10
Speaker 1: of all.
34:11
Speaker 2: That about her salary? Was that yesterday?
34:13
Speaker 1: Well, the salary and then the other big thing that
34:15
Speaker 1: was making the headlines is that apparently she got pulled
34:17
Speaker 1: over for a speeding ticket and she got out of
34:19
Speaker 1: it because she asked the cop, who's your favorite football team?
34:23
Speaker 1: And she called the coach of that football team and
34:26
Speaker 1: helped her get out of the ticket.
34:28
Speaker 2: Oh no, I did not hear that. Who was the coach?
34:31
Speaker 2: Do we know?
34:31
Speaker 1: No, we don't know that Oh that's a mister.
34:33
Speaker 2: Someone's going to find that out.
34:35
Speaker 1: Well, that tony farmer guy's on it.
34:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, me, of course he is. That he's dedicated his
34:39
Speaker 2: entire life now. Diana Russini Mike Rabel situation.
34:43
Speaker 1: I don't know if it isolated by itself would be
34:46
Speaker 1: that big of a deal. But with everything else going on,
34:49
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you can't help but think, oh,
34:52
Speaker 1: she may have been slept with every single coach in
34:54
Speaker 1: the National Football League. You can't help but.
34:56
Speaker 2: Thing, no, you can't. Yeah, you can't rule it out,
34:58
Speaker 2: that's for sure. You're not gonna be like, no, no, no,
35:00
Speaker 2: she's a two guy kind of gal. Just your husband
35:03
Speaker 2: and Vrabel that's it.
35:05
Speaker 1: Well we know mcmah for sure.
35:06
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Iane McVeigh, okay, three guy kind.
35:09
Speaker 1: Of gal, but no more than three. No more than three,
35:13
Speaker 1: well maybe Tomlin.
35:16
Speaker 2: There's definitely no more than four.
35:18
Speaker 1: You stay alone from McDonald.
35:20
Speaker 2: Oh, I will find someone said a bad word. That
35:24
Speaker 2: really idea of that I was like, I will fight
35:27
Speaker 2: a bee, not afraid.
35:30
Speaker 1: I'd love for that to have been the very last thing.
35:33
Speaker 1: And then we just go to Greg done, all right,
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