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The Intel With Greg Cosell: Tape Eval Of Carnell Tate, Jordyn Tyson, Other NFL Draft WRs · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome back to the Intel with Greg Cosell. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher with Adam Kaplan, and of course we have
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  Speaker 1: Greg Cosell. As we continue to preview the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: six NFL Draft and break down each of the prospects
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  Speaker 1: by their positions, and today we get to talk about
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver.
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  Speaker 2: Greg.
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  Speaker 1: It's always people love wide receivers. They love watching them
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  Speaker 1: run the forty at the combine. They love figuring out
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  Speaker 1: who's gonna be the next Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson.
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  Speaker 1: These are guys who truly can change the game if
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  Speaker 1: you really hit on one. But we also know every
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  Speaker 1: year the class can either be a great class, a
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  Speaker 1: medium class, an okay class, top heavy, bottom heavy.
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  Speaker 3: What stood out about this year's wide receiver class.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's it's deep. I don't think there are
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  Speaker 2: any Jamar Chases in this class, which by the way,
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  Speaker 2: does not mean that they won't be three or four
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  Speaker 2: receivers taken in the first round because you have to
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  Speaker 2: draft so that will be the case. And we also
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  Speaker 2: live in a world guys in the NFL where depending
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  Speaker 2: on what team you go to, any number of these
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  Speaker 2: guys could end up being volume, targets and catch a
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  Speaker 2: lot of balls. That doesn't mean they're Jamar Chase or
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  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson, you know, or even Puka Nakua, who's a
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  Speaker 2: very interesting player. You know, Another time for another discussion.
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  Speaker 2: But so they'll be receivers drafted high. But I think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be in the eye of the beholder.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why you hear a lot about this draft
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  Speaker 2: class being polarizing because there's there's a lot of good
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  Speaker 2: players and if they're deployed, you know, it all depends
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  Speaker 2: on how they're deployed within any given offense as to
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  Speaker 2: what they're going to be in terms of volume and
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  Speaker 2: then receptions.
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  Speaker 4: And also Greg, I would say this from talking receivers
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  Speaker 4: coaches over the years, it's also about what the expectations are.
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  Speaker 4: If you're first some pick obviously going to play early, right,
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  Speaker 4: and then they're guys.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes it takes.
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  Speaker 4: Longer because you're having to learn a new offense, you're
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  Speaker 4: being coached by eyes you've not worked with before, and
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  Speaker 4: sometimes it takes longer. And I think patience, man, if
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  Speaker 4: the staff gets to stick around for a while, Jeff
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  Speaker 4: as we sent it back to you, guys who are
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  Speaker 4: going a third day can be developed, and there are
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  Speaker 4: a number of the third day receivers that have been
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  Speaker 4: developed over the years.
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  Speaker 2: And you have to then understand when you draft, or
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  Speaker 2: even if you draft a receiver in this class in
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  Speaker 2: the top ten or top fifteen, because he's not necessarily
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  Speaker 2: special in his overall traits, then you have to decide
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  Speaker 2: how he best can be deployed. You have to decide
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  Speaker 2: what he is. You know, I was talking to someone
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  Speaker 2: and we were talking about DeVonta Smith of the Eagles, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: and we were both agreeing that if he was in
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  Speaker 2: this draft, guys, he'd be the number one receiver, you know,
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  Speaker 2: So you know, I think you have to understand what
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  Speaker 2: the receivers are that you're drafting. And like I said,
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that there aren't going to be guys
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  Speaker 2: who come in and catch a lot of balls and
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  Speaker 2: then people say, well, they're great. But you know, there's
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  Speaker 2: a difference between what a guy actually is and how
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  Speaker 2: he then is deployed in an offense where he can
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  Speaker 2: have a nice reduction.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Hright, Let's get to some of the names. Let's talk
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  Speaker 3: about Jordan Tyson from Arizona State.
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  Speaker 2: What Jordan Tyson has to face, which has nothing to
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  Speaker 2: do with his traits and attributes. Is the injury factor.
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  Speaker 2: I think with Tyson, I kind of like Tyson. I
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  Speaker 2: think you're dealing with a receiver that has a short
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  Speaker 2: area of quickness and burst. I don't think he's a
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  Speaker 2: guy that's necessarily going to win over the top of
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  Speaker 2: corners at the NFL level where I think he was
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  Speaker 2: really effective, and I think he's calculatingly efficient in this
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  Speaker 2: regard because he wins off the ball versus press, He
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  Speaker 2: creates space and separation. He understands how to attack leverage
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  Speaker 2: of corners with his stem, and he's got a very
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  Speaker 2: sort of an innate feel for breaking down corners techniques.
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  Speaker 2: The big question that a lot of coaches have is
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  Speaker 2: where do you play these guys? Is he a boundary
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  Speaker 2: X at the next level. I don't quite see him
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  Speaker 2: that way. I think he's more of a movement Z
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  Speaker 2: slash slot who can be deployed with a lot of
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  Speaker 2: pre SNAM movement. But the one thing that didn't show
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  Speaker 2: up on tape was there was not really a lot
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  Speaker 2: of run after catch with him. But I think he
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  Speaker 2: knows how to run routes. I think he knows how
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  Speaker 2: to separate.
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  Speaker 5: Great.
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  Speaker 4: The next guy is could quite very well go be
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  Speaker 4: the first guy off the board at the receiver position.
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  Speaker 4: That's Carnell tape from Ohio State talk about if you can, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: how does he fit in the next level, because you
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  Speaker 4: were just talking about that with Tyson, whether he's an
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  Speaker 4: X or not.
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  Speaker 5: But what are your thoughts on him?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Carneal Tayate, I watched him last summer and then
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  Speaker 2: I watched him this year. I actually thought he looked
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  Speaker 2: this year a little quicker and faster than he did
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, and therefore he was more of
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  Speaker 2: a vertical dimension in college this year in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: five than he was in twenty twenty four. And he's
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  Speaker 2: got you know, he didn't run well at the combine,
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  Speaker 2: but he plays faster than his I guess four or
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  Speaker 2: five three official time. He's got stride length because he's
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  Speaker 2: over six to two. You know, I think he's a
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  Speaker 2: deceptive stride who at times got on top of corners.
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  Speaker 2: And if you feel he can do that at the
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  Speaker 2: next level, and I think there's a question about that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying he can't. He may. He may well
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  Speaker 2: be able to, But I think you have to decide
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  Speaker 2: that because that would elevate his projection at him. That
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  Speaker 2: would make you think that possibly could he be a
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  Speaker 2: boundary X if he can do that. He's a straight
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  Speaker 2: line strider, and I think he's at his best running
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  Speaker 2: those kinds of routes you know, slants, go routes, post routes,
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  Speaker 2: over routes, crossers. These are kind of what we call
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  Speaker 2: roll over speedcut type routes. You know, he's not a
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  Speaker 2: sink your hips kind of receiver. I would bet there'll
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  Speaker 2: be some teams that think he could be that boundary
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  Speaker 2: X and other teams that will see him as more
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  Speaker 2: of a two. You know, he's got very good hands,
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  Speaker 2: he's got strong receiving skills, and like I said, I
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  Speaker 2: think the question which could be answered differently by different
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  Speaker 2: teams is whether you see him as a guy that
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  Speaker 2: can win over the top at the NFL level.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I have to ask when you're watching tape
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  Speaker 1: of Carnel Tait, and of course, his teammate might be
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  Speaker 1: the top pick in the draft next year. Jeremiah Smith, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: do you notice a contrast with them both on the
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  Speaker 1: field and how they're how they're used deployed in their
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  Speaker 1: skill sets.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I didn't study Smith. Smith is bigger. I
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  Speaker 2: got to meet Jeremiah Smith in a Maxwell dinner in
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta a couple of years ago when when he was
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  Speaker 2: coming out and first going to Ohio State. He's a
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  Speaker 2: legit six three Jeremiah Smith. He is big and he can.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's just a smoother athlete. I mean you
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  Speaker 2: know that you notice immediately you know Tates, Tates, you know,
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  Speaker 2: relatively smooth. But he's He's not like Smith. But I
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  Speaker 2: would say that, you know, Tate's one of those guys
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  Speaker 2: that has, you know, a detailed sense of route running.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he understands pace, he understands tempo. Again, I
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  Speaker 2: think he's a very good receiving prospect. You know. The
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  Speaker 2: one thing that he did not do very well is
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  Speaker 2: he did not, you know, really have run after catch.
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  Speaker 2: If you go by rankings, you know a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people there's metrics for all this. I mean he ran
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty fourth and run after catch yardy
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  Speaker 2: to ball Ryder College Football. So he didn't really show
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  Speaker 2: that element to his game.
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  Speaker 3: M interesting.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on to another wide receiver who
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  Speaker 1: gets got a lot of attention this year. Indiana's Omar
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  Speaker 1: Cooper certainly came up with some pretty big catches I
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  Speaker 1: can think of.
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  Speaker 2: One was that that might have been the one against
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  Speaker 2: Penn State.
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  Speaker 3: Huh, Yes, it was the one. Again, there's no mite
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  Speaker 3: about it.
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  Speaker 2: I was just trying to remember that, you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's he's another guy that he's your classic case. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we joke about this all the time while he's moving
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  Speaker 2: up draft boards. I guess he's playing a lot of
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  Speaker 2: football the last month or two.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess we've been missing
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  Speaker 6: all the football he's been playing in the last month.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, this guy is He's got a natural quickness
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  Speaker 6: to his movement, both of the route runner and run
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  Speaker 6: after catch. He's a very fluid athlete, moves very easily.
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  Speaker 6: I think one thing that stands out is how seamless
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  Speaker 6: his transition is from receiver to run after catch, very
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  Speaker 6: easy acceleration.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the Indiana offense was a fascinating offense because
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  Speaker 2: it was very RPO based, and in the context of
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  Speaker 2: that offense, he ran a limited number of routes that
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  Speaker 2: really fit the heavy RPO scheme. But there were really
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  Speaker 2: strong snap shots of route running savvy and separation quickness.
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  Speaker 2: He's another guy to me that I think fits the
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  Speaker 2: NFL really well because I think he's a movement guy.
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  Speaker 2: And more and more teams, as you guys know, we
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  Speaker 2: discussed this during the season when we talk Eagles and
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the NFL, more and more teams are
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  Speaker 2: using pre snap movement, and I think that fits his
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  Speaker 2: game really, really well if you get him off the ball,
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  Speaker 2: get you know, get him the ball off movement and
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  Speaker 2: in space where you can really deploy his run after
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  Speaker 2: catch traits. You know, the other thing that you don't
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  Speaker 2: see a lot in college. First of all, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of teams. I was saying this to my my seasonal
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  Speaker 2: you know, stayed with me and comes in every day
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  Speaker 2: and watch his tape with me because he wants to
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  Speaker 2: get in the league. And we noticed in watching defenses
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  Speaker 2: there's not very much man coverage. So the one thing
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of these receivers and Cooper's the same
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  Speaker 2: way is you know that he didn't show which again
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean he can't do it, but there wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: sample size to know whether he could consistently separate and
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  Speaker 2: win versus quality man to man coverage. You just don't
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  Speaker 2: see a lot of it. And that's so this is
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  Speaker 2: not just true of Cooper, it's true of a lot
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  Speaker 2: of receivers. And you know that's that's a trait, that's
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  Speaker 2: a learned trade. How to run routes where you can
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  Speaker 2: separate at the top of your route stamp. You don't
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  Speaker 2: just run at a guy and then then run another way.
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  Speaker 2: You know that that's something you have to learn how
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  Speaker 2: to do. My guess is because he has the athletic
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  Speaker 2: traits to do it that he probably he can do it.
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  Speaker 2: But I think you know, these guys have to learn
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  Speaker 2: how to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Guy well real, I'm sure you overlooked in your notes
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  Speaker 1: the fact and the other trade, right that he just
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  Speaker 1: knows how to win and comes up in the clutch.
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  Speaker 3: I know that's one of your favorite Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he knows how to win.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I love that. Yeah, yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Greg, the next guy's got really good size.
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  Speaker 5: That's Denzel Boston for Washington.
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  Speaker 2: What can you tell us about Yeah, Denzel Boston is
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  Speaker 2: a guy. You know. It's funny. Jeff started out by
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  Speaker 2: mentioning Ted McMillan, and I think there there are some
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  Speaker 2: similarities here. You know. It's funny, how remember when McMillan
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  Speaker 2: came out last year. You know, so many people when
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  Speaker 2: you get big receivers who are smooth, everybody wanted to
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  Speaker 2: compare them to Drake London, who you know, came in
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  Speaker 2: a few years ago. And Drake London's turned out to
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  Speaker 2: be a good receiver. He's a perfect example, by the
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  Speaker 2: way of what we started talking about. He's basically become
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  Speaker 2: an inside receiver in Atlanta's offense, and he's really good
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  Speaker 2: at it. So therefore he catches a lot of balls
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  Speaker 2: and puts up numbers, but he's not really an outside receiver.
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  Speaker 2: And I, you know, I know someone who is on
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  Speaker 2: that staff in Atlanta. Obviously it's a different staff now,
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  Speaker 2: so this coach is somewhere else, but he was on
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  Speaker 2: the staff in Atlanta the last couple of years. And
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  Speaker 2: basically we had this conversation about London. He said, he's
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  Speaker 2: really good, but he's an inside guy. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: think Boston is closer to Ted McMillan in the sense
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  Speaker 2: that he's a little smoother. You can play him on
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  Speaker 2: the outside, you know. So now he was featured as
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  Speaker 2: the ex in the Washington offense. You know, so he
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  Speaker 2: ran those kinds of routes. But there'll be a question
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  Speaker 2: with him because of his size, his length. You know,
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  Speaker 2: his movement is more measured and methodical than quick and sudden.
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  Speaker 2: He's not a sink his hips, snap out of cuts
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  Speaker 2: kind of guy. So can he win and separate versus
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  Speaker 2: really good man coverage in the NFL? Well, if he
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  Speaker 2: is your ex which you have to be able to do.
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  Speaker 2: There were times that he did show a little stiffness
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  Speaker 2: and what I call segmentation getting in and out of breaks,
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  Speaker 2: and that slowed down his cuts. He's certainly not a
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  Speaker 2: true vertical guy, but he has stride length, and I've
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  Speaker 2: learned over the years that guys who are are long
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  Speaker 2: and have length they can win over the top of times,
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  Speaker 2: even if they're not really explosive vertically. But I think
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot to like about this guy. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I thought I watched him last summer too.
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  Speaker 2: I thought another guy that I thought looked quicker in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five than he did in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: And he's a guy that has great hands body control.
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  Speaker 2: He can make tough catches away from his frame, and
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  Speaker 2: the size is a trade and is a factor.
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  Speaker 1: It's the first guy that you've kind of confidently felt
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  Speaker 1: that can play the boundary or.
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, more so, I would look at
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  Speaker 2: him more so than the others we just spoke about.
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  Speaker 3: Got it very good? All right, Let's talk about Kayle
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  Speaker 3: Lemon from USC.
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  Speaker 2: I think Mkayle Lemon and I had this conversation with
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  Speaker 2: a couple of people you know in the league that
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  Speaker 2: you know evaluate players. He is the absolute clear cutcase
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  Speaker 2: of the eye of the beholder because he's not big,
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  Speaker 2: he's he's quick, but not fast. He's certainly more measured
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  Speaker 2: than explosive. He wasn't really a true playmaker. Run after
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  Speaker 2: catch and I want to I want to make a
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  Speaker 2: quick point about run after catch. Guys. If you catch
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  Speaker 2: the ball and there's nobody in front of you and
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  Speaker 2: you run for twenty yards, that's not run after catch,
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  Speaker 2: even though it counts in the stats run after catch.
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  Speaker 2: That's not run after catch. Run after catches when you
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  Speaker 2: do something to produce the extra yards. So I think
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  Speaker 2: that's an important point to make because a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people now look at metrics, you know, and they see, oh,
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  Speaker 2: run after catch yardage you know, you got to look
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  Speaker 2: at the plays. I mean, you know, when if you catch,
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  Speaker 2: you know, let's say a glance route and there's no
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  Speaker 2: one in front of you, when you run for twenty
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  Speaker 2: or twenty five yards, that's not run after catch, even
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  Speaker 2: though it's charted that.
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  Speaker 5: Way, right, you know, text matters, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and no question. So Lemon is is well, I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you here, here's what I I like Lemon, but
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  Speaker 2: I think you have to be careful. And again, to me,
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  Speaker 2: he's a perfect example of if he goes to the
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  Speaker 2: right team, he could absolutely be a volume receiver depending
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  Speaker 2: on scheme and his deployment within the scheme. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's tough, he's competitive, that stands out, and that always
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  Speaker 2: transitions well to the next level. You know, I think
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  Speaker 2: that you're dealing with a guy that has has natural
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  Speaker 2: route quickness. He's he does have separation quickness, and I
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  Speaker 2: think he understands how to run routes. You know, we
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  Speaker 2: talk sometimes about the blind spots of corners when you
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  Speaker 2: run routes, and he has a he's very very good
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  Speaker 2: at getting corners just to turn and and then there's
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  Speaker 2: a blind spot when you turn your body. You obviously
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  Speaker 2: can't see everything, and he's very very good at then
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  Speaker 2: attacking those blind spots, and he's got really vice grip
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  Speaker 2: hands so he can catch away from his frame. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the last line, one of the last lines in my transition.
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  Speaker 2: When I finished, I said, the more I watched Lemon,
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  Speaker 2: the more I thought of both Aman Ross Saint Brown
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  Speaker 2: and Khalil Khalil Shakir, with Lemon falling somewhere in between.
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  Speaker 2: Good player's kind of the way I saw him. Shakiir
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  Speaker 2: is much better run after catch than Lemon.
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  Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting all right, and you know he again this this
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  Speaker 4: group as we got through them. It's interesting, and you
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  Speaker 4: hear this from coaches. It's it's what are you kind
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  Speaker 4: of looking to accept? Like what can you handle? What
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  Speaker 4: can you make better? Shakira's a guy that went late
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  Speaker 4: and became a quality receiver.
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  Speaker 2: For the Bills. And you know it's funny. I spoke
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  Speaker 2: to a GM who has been doing it a long
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  Speaker 2: time and we had this conversation about Mackay Lemon. I
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  Speaker 2: had a great hour conversation with him at the mind,
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  Speaker 2: this GM, and he actually told me that he had
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  Speaker 2: Shakira as a second round player. So yeah, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: I really like Shakiir coming out of Boise. You know, me,
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  Speaker 2: I don't put grades on guys. I don't do that,
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  Speaker 2: but I really like Shakiir coming out of Boise. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, and I'm sure a lot of people listening
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: to this because the Bills are on all the time,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: have seen Shakir make a lot of those great run
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: after catch plays. You know, Lemon's not quite He's not
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: at that level of run after catch. So and Shakira
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: is also he's a little bigger than Lemon. But but
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I Lemon to me, I think Lemon in the right
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: scheme is going to be a good receiver. You know,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: there's a lot to like about Lemon and animate a
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: great point. It's what you can accept because guys are
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: going to be drafted high. You know, Lemon could go ninth.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, you never and I don't even know who
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: draft nights, but I'm saying you're gonna get three, four,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: maybe five receivers drafted in the first round because you
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: don't have quarterbacks. So so you're gonna get these guys
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: and fans are going to think, oh, he's a first
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: round pick. He's got to come in and play and
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: catch seventy five balls. And now that depends on team
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: and scheme.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: And coaching and yeah, and that to a great point.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Great point, that's the big thing.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: So the next guy was a really good punt return
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: of this season. He's played for North Carolina State and
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: Texas A M. That's casey conception sheet. Tell us about
• 17:18
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• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Here's a receiver that I really really like. I think
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: that this guy really fits the NFL game. Just before
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I start talking about him, I'll just tell you that
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the player that he reminded me of when I finished
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: watching his tape, and I made this point in my notes,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the player I constantly thought of watching concepts Jon was
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Zay Flowers coming out of BC. Concept Jon is five
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: to eleven five as one ninety six. I mean he
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: was deployed in multiple ways in the A and M
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: offense pre snap movement, location, versatility, He's sudden, he's twitchy,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: he's got short, airy explosiveness, he's got accelerating vertical speed.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: This guy can truly be a factor at all three
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: levels and including the wide receiver screen game, which has
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: become more and more prevalent in the NFL. He's got
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: outstanding run after catch traits. See, I think he can
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: transition to any NFL passing game. So you know, again,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not sitting here saying he's my number one, you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just talking about what I believe the player showed
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: in college and what I think he then can be
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: at the next level. In speaking to a couple of people,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: you know, at the combine, I think there are an
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Adam you may know more about this than I that
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: there are some concerns that are separate from his tape,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: you know, and that's always a factor when guys you know,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: are in the draft. But I think the tape and
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: his and his the way he plays really, you know,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: like I said, he reminded me of a Flowers coming out
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: of BC and he's done. Okay, so you see.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Him as a movement type player as well, then.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: He can I think he can line up anywhere, and
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I think that he can attack all three levels. I mean,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's your true boundary acts every single snatch,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: but I think he can line up anywhere.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not fat. I mean, here's the thing with him, Gregan,
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  Speaker 5: this is interesting.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: He as you say that we think of x receivers
• 19:10
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• 19:13
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  Speaker 5: Brown is not quite six to one, but Bill like
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  Speaker 4: Is the I know you're not seeing him up close,
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  Speaker 4: so I know you were at the you were on
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  Speaker 4: the at the field.
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  Speaker 5: On the field, does he look bigger in person? Did
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: you see him at the.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: He doesn't look big. But keep this in mind. What
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: we see in the league now is even receivers who
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: are quote unquote boundary X because there's so many reduced
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: splits now, so you know you're not seeing even if
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: a guy is a single receiver, he's not necessarily split
• 19:41
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• 19:44
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• 19:48
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• 19:51
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• 19:54
  Speaker 2: know he wasn't even used that way until really this year,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: maybe some last year. You know, there's the way teams
• 20:01
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• 20:05
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  Speaker 1: talk about Chris.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Bell. It was a fascinating study because he
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  Speaker 2: I watched him last summer. I was, and I watched
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  Speaker 2: watched him last summer. And when I watched him last summer,
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  Speaker 2: I thought that this was a guy that had, you know,
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  Speaker 2: an explosive dimension to his game both vertically and run
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  Speaker 2: after catch. I mean, when he had free access off
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  Speaker 2: the ball, he got to speed in a hurry. He
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  Speaker 2: has stride length because he's big, you know, he could accelerate.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he had that accelerating speed. I mean there
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: were times he caught slant routes, glance routes where he
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: just ran away from the defense. I didn't think he
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: looked quite that way this year, even before the injury.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: But there's no question that he does have straight line,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: a straight line explosive dimension to him. You know, he's
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: he's going to be a really interesting guy. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there are plays when you look at him, there are
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  Speaker 2: wow plays. He had a thirty five yard touchdown this
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  Speaker 2: year versus Miami on a shallow crosser that he took
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: to the house. I mean, and you know he just
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: ran away from the Miami defense. You know, I think
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: he's a guy. To get to Adam's point, I think
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: he's a guy that needs coaching because he just needs
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: to develop more sharpness in and out of breaks. I
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: think he you know, there were times he had to
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: sort of gather and reset his body in order to break.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Obviously that doesn't work in the NFL. You know, I
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: think that his his his speed. He was more of
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: a run after catch explosive guy than he was a
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: vertical dimension if that makes sense. You know, he didn't
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: necessarily run by corners as on routes, but when he
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: caught the ball, you know, and he could just keep running,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: you know, make that seamless transition. He was really explosive.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: He's he's a perfect example too of eye of the beholder,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: because you look at this kid depending on your offense,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: and you think, man, if you can get him the
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: ball on some of those inbreaking routes with a little space,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: you know that, then he's explosive in that regard.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: So Gregor would not be in a show talking about
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Alabama and not talking about a receiver.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: Let's talk about Jeremy Bernard.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, JEREMYM. Bernard is and I had a great conversation
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: with a receivers coach about him because he's one of
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: those guys you know, you know, we always talk and
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: people in the business know exactly what we mean, you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and it's but it's cliched, But people in the business
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: know he's a football player, you know. You know what
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. People in the business know what that means,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: and I think that's who he is. I really like Bernard.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Now that doesn't mean he's got every trait you want, obviously,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: he's not purely explosive. And again, where does he line up?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I bet he could line up anywhere depending on your team.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: You know, he was technically sound in his route running.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: He had really reliable hands. Does he have vertical speed no?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Is he truly explosive, No, But you're dealing with a fine,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: subtle route runner who understands leverage versus both man and zone.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: He's got a very an innate feel for sitting in zones.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: You know, he's he's just a good receiver who's and
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, you know, when when you watch him,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: you try to think of guys like that who are
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: just really good receivers who aren't necessarily you know, the
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: way we think of traits, because he's, like I said,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: he's not a burner, but he's just to me, he's
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: a foundational, solid prospect who just fits the profile, you know,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: sort of that strong number two receiver in a passing game.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: You know, you don't draft him to say this guy's
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: my guy, right, he's just a good receiver, just.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Real discipline with his routes and yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, that's not a bad comparison. Yeah,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: that kind of guy just knows how to play the position. Yeah.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: So what Greg means is he's just a football player
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: generally means competitive, tough, Yeah, mentally strong, coachable, by the way,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: is a big thing at that position. Yeah, and he
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: went to the Bama so you kind of know, although
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: save it's not coaching anymore, but you know that program
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: what it's known for.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: They usually get guys are mentally tough.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean he's and Adam makes a great
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: point because coaching is a big deal because the the
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: NFL game, because of the field, is different than the
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: college game. For a receiver, it's totally different and there's
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: a lot that they have to learn. It's not just Tay,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I got ability. Let me go out there and you know,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: run around and catch balls.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Well, Greg, it's it's not all the time we get
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: to ask you about a six foot four wide receiver.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: But that's what Chris Brazil a second is. I mean,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: he's pretty tall guy there. So what do you see
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: from him on tape out of Tennessee?
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Christopher, he's you know, we make the same point
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: all the time. You know, this is a guy that's
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: six' four and he ran a four to three Seven
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: but you. Know the interesting thing about him and people
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: just and, again there's plenty of examples on tape of,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: him you, know being. Explosive he's obviously got great stride
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: length where he can generate, speed but there are a
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: lot of vertical routes where corners also matched him stride for.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Stride SO i mean just saying he's six' four and
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: ran a four to, Three seven and then you have
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: to watch the tape because, YOU know i watch all.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: HIS targets i don't just watch the. GOOD plays i
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: watch all. His TARGETS but i think that there's more
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: to him than just being long and. RUNNING fast i
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: thought there were some really good snapshots and his targets
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: of sharp decisive cuts without shortening his stride or slowing.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: His SPEED and i thought he showed some body control
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to stop without having to gear down with too. MANY
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: steps i think there's something there with, this kid. You.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: KNOW uh i think different coaches will see his path to,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: development differently but it would not. Surprise me he's one
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: of those guys because of, the size the, forty time
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: what he looks like, on tape because he just looks.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: REALLY good, i mean he's got that strider glider feel.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: To him he just. Looks good. YOU know i think
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: there'll be they'll be receiver coaches that fall in love with.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: This kid how would you characterize his contested catchability because
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: even if he's being run for stride, for stride there's
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of d backs that are six, for
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• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Advantage, there yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: HE shull i mean he did show strong hands to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: catch the ball away from his frame. For sure, YOU
• 29:42
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  Speaker 2: work between? The numbers, you know can he catch the ball?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: In traffic, YOU know i think he can go up and.
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  Speaker 2: Get IT but i didn't think, watching him there was
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• 29:57
  Speaker 2: YOU know i thought that he was more of a.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Finesse receiver, you know so sometimes those guys are not
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: big volume targets in. The, league.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Well another guy who's tall and he's much, thicker physically
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  Speaker 4: but he didn't run well at. The combine that's, Malachot,
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  Speaker 2: What he ran is going to turn people off because it.
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• 30:23
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• 30:27
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• 30:31
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• 30:36
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• 30:40
  Speaker 2: much mystery. To him the question is do you feel
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• 30:53
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  Speaker 2: i even typed in. My transition if he showed this
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: traits profile with this kind of production in a power for,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a conference he would without question be in the first.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Round conversation. You know but many will pause due to
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: the lower level. OF competition, i mean that's the way.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: This works but this kid, is big he, can run
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: he can be he can be a factor at all.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Three levels he worked the middle of the field at
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: the short, intermediate levels he caught a ton of dig
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: routes in. Their offense he probably had a few too,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: many drops but he also then caught the ball very
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: easily with his hands on, the move seamlessly transitioning to run. After,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: catch now this guy definitely has the size and length
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  Speaker 2: and trades profile to develop into A boundary x. Without question.
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  Speaker 5: Six three.
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  Speaker 2: He is smooth and he's got. Natural quickness he's got
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  Speaker 2: competitive power and strength run. AFTER catch, i mean there
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: was really not a lot. TO dislike, i mean did
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: he have some bad drops on. Routine. Catches yes did
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: he see a lot of press?
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  Speaker 4: In?
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  Speaker 2: College no, you know can he RUN by? NFL corners
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: i don't think we know the answer, To that, BUT
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: uh i really, liked HIM AND i I like, I
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: SAID i i think if he if he did the
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: exact same thing in a power, for school He'd be
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: he'd be in the first round Conversation.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Without quester so the first THING an nfl personnel evaluator
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: is going to do if they're assigned to this guy
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: is look at the schedule and see if he played
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: any games against.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: A power for school and how.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: He performed did were you able to see? Any tape
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: do you Know If georgia state played ANYBODY that.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I don't have their schedule right in front, Of ME
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: and i know teams, Do. That Jeff and i'm not
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: saying it's right. Or wrong i'm not necessarily a big
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: believer in that unless you're seeing like one on, one
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: matchups which you don't see very much in college football.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: These days by, the, way right just don't forget his
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: team is just overall not gonna be able to match
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: up overall to the team, they're playing. You know so
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: then it comes down now to so many. Other things the,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: old line, the quarterback you know you could watch him
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: and he could, get open and that the ball could not,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: be thrown, You know SO that i find that to
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: be A hard i don't want, say hard not that,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: it's WRONG but i don't know how much that tells me.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Sure true the other thing that they'll do is, they'll
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: say for a guy coming at school like, that is
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: did he dominate every? Single TIME can i find two
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: or three games where? He didn't AND then i got to.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Worry about whether he can do it AT the.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Nfl level but we've seen a lot of small school
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: guys get drafted and then the personnel people have said he.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Dominated that, In Fact youlex hunt is one of, those
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: examples and you see him just abusing every single, you
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: know tackle or.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Either way i'm not Suggesting ted hurst from day one
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: is going to be A boundary x and catch one
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: hundred and. Twenty bus, You KNOW so i help people
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: understand that that's Not what.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: I'm, saying right you should know by the Way ted
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: hurst was At The senior bowl that that's important because
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: on your point, about okay how did?
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: He COMPETE and i heard he looked very good From
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: people i've.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Spoken, to yeah he. Was there so and we'll get
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: as we.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Get closer we when we do our last show in
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: a couple, of weeks we'll have follow ups about kind
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: of how the league. Sees Him but i'm so glad
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: you brought this up because We Did Jay. ALEX hunt I,
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: CALLED greg, i, said hey you need to make sure
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: you see. THIS kid i know he was you had
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: to get the tape and you saw him and we
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: talked about him as we were told he's going the
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: third round.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: Of somewhere we didn't know he's going to go TO.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: The us there's always. GEMS man i think ted to
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Me and i'm bad, at THIS but i Think ted
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: hurst will Be a day. Two guy but that's. My, Opinion.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Awesome greg anybody else that, we did Like A skuyler
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Bell Or antonio Williams Or, jakobe lane anyone, that.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Well there's a bunch of GUYS that, i mean, you
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: know you got the Elijahs to Rod. From indiana who's
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: going TO be i think another guy. THAT'S polarizing I
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Think dion Burks from oklahoma is a really, intriguing guy.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Really intriguing. YOU know i watched Someone Like dion burks
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: AND and i come away not feeling like there's a
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: large Gap Between dian Burks And MIKAYLE emmett, i mean,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: YOU know i think this, receiver class there's a lot
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: of guys who are, bunched together and we get back
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: to the eye of. The beholder there's a lot of
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: guys that, you know it's, you know. AN adam i
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: know you're going to talk. TO people i talk. To
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: people i'm very curious to see how people see these
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: guys and, don't forget very often they see them in
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the context of. Their offense and you've got to remember,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: that true, you know so because when you talk to
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: a coach and, they're putting, you know a, board TOGETHER
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: and i never ask a coach, their Board and i'm
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: not sure you. Don't either you just talk about players and,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: you know try to get a sense of how they
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: evaluate and trades and. All that, YOU know i, never,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: say well tell me what your board. Looks LIKE is
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: i don't feel, that's appropriate NOR do i, DEEP down
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: i really. Don't care but, YOU know i really like
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: to talk about the traits and how they can. Be
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: deployed and that's really what it comes. Down TO but
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: i think there's. So teams one thing with coaches is
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: they think about scheme adaptability within their scheme and, their
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: system right and how he can. Be deployed so THAT'S
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: why i think you're going to see a LOT of
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: i don't want, to say you're going to see guys
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: draft and, you go oh, my GOD well i didn't,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: expect THAT but i think, you, Know see i'm never
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: surprised by THAT because i know sort of how all. This,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: works awesome.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Great stuff that is a great comprehensive breakdown of a
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: lot of really good wide receivers who are going to,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: get drafted and that's going to do it for this
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Episode Of the Intel with Greg. Co Sell for Greg
• 38:15
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