Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / Ep. 894: Foundations - What You Can Do Now, to Gain an Edge on Bucks This Fall
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
- 0:05Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
- 0:09Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.
- 0:14Speaker 1: First Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
- 0:19Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Wire to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
- 0:23Speaker 2: which is brought to you by First Light. I'm your host,
- 0:24Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about taking your
- 0:27Speaker 2: dear future seriously right now. Look, I know this is
- 0:35Speaker 2: a weird time to be thinking about white tails, you know,
- 0:38Speaker 2: but is there really a bad time of the year
- 0:40Speaker 2: to be thinking about white tails? I'd say no, and
- 0:42Speaker 2: I would guess even Mark would agree with that, although
- 0:45Speaker 2: he's probably mostly thinking about fly fishing for tiny trout
- 0:48Speaker 2: and busting out his custom made, handcrafted butterfly nuts. There's
- 0:52Speaker 2: always something to do with white tails, and that might be,
- 0:55Speaker 2: you know, as simple as shooting a little more, getting
- 0:56Speaker 2: your gear in order, putting some of that gear to
- 0:58Speaker 2: good use before August, when the reality of a rapidly
- 1:01Speaker 2: approaching season smacks you like a dead fish on the
- 1:05Speaker 2: side of your skull. This is what I'm going to
- 1:07Speaker 2: talk about right now. One thing that struck me last season,
- 1:18Speaker 2: as I was standing in the rain on a highway
- 1:20Speaker 2: in northern Wisconsin with a bloody felet knife in my hands,
- 1:24Speaker 2: was that the work that I do for white tails
- 1:26Speaker 2: often doesn't really pay off with dead bucks. As I
- 1:30Speaker 2: looked at the various pieces of my truck scattered across
- 1:33Speaker 2: the road and the dead dough in the ditch, I
- 1:35Speaker 2: realized that the hunt that I was really really looking
- 1:38Speaker 2: forward to was already over on the same day that
- 1:42Speaker 2: it had started. It was a hunt I had talked
- 1:45Speaker 2: about on this show A Whole Bunch and on our
- 1:47Speaker 2: main Wired Hunt show several times. I was so confident
- 1:51Speaker 2: i'd kill a buck that week out of a stand
- 1:53Speaker 2: I hung in April that it never occurred to me
- 1:56Speaker 2: that I wouldn't. I mean, I literally never even considered
- 1:59Speaker 2: that I might not shoot a buck there in mid November.
- 2:03Speaker 2: And it stung knowing that I had gotten way ahead
- 2:05Speaker 2: of the work and I had laid what I thought
- 2:07Speaker 2: was a perfect trap, and then in an instant, it
- 2:10Speaker 2: all changed. Now, I'm naturally a pretty negative person, which
- 2:15Speaker 2: is you can imagine, doesn't do me too many favors
- 2:18Speaker 2: when I talk to somebody like Yannis, I'm instantly jealous.
- 2:22Speaker 2: He sees the good side of nearly everything, and if
- 2:24Speaker 2: I could figure out a way to steal that from him,
- 2:27Speaker 2: well I probably wouldn't, but I definitely consider it. That
- 2:31Speaker 2: natural inclination makes me think about hitting that dough and
- 2:36Speaker 2: missing out on a hunt without a cameraman over my shoulder,
- 2:39Speaker 2: And you know, it's easy for me to think that
- 2:41Speaker 2: that's what mostly happens, That something just goes to shit,
- 2:45Speaker 2: and whatever good thing I expected was never going to happen,
- 2:48Speaker 2: because after all, why would it. But the thing is,
- 2:52Speaker 2: most of what I do for dear season doesn't work
- 2:55Speaker 2: very well. Most of what you do doesn't either, because
- 2:59Speaker 2: you know, if it did, you'd be hosting this podcast
- 3:01Speaker 2: and I'd be laying sod and drinking long next on
- 3:04Speaker 2: the weekend somewhere or something. I don't know, but it's
- 3:07Speaker 2: a bad idea to look at what we do and
- 3:09Speaker 2: decide the extra work, especially the stuff you can do now,
- 3:13Speaker 2: doesn't have the kind of ROI necessary to make it
- 3:15Speaker 2: worth it. I talk a lot about giving ourselves out
- 3:19Speaker 2: with the actual hunting season and all of the excuses
- 3:23Speaker 2: that we use to not hunt, but we can also
- 3:26Speaker 2: find a pile of excuses to not do anything in
- 3:28Speaker 2: the off season either, or at least this part of
- 3:31Speaker 2: the off season that's generally geared toward gobblers and crappie fishing.
- 3:36Speaker 2: But there's always something worth doing, and for me, the
- 3:38Speaker 2: easiest way to figure out what that is is to
- 3:41Speaker 2: think back on my last season and try to be
- 3:43Speaker 2: real honest about the holes in my game. This isn't
- 3:46Speaker 2: too hard of a task for me this year. I've
- 3:48Speaker 2: spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out
- 3:51Speaker 2: how to be a super lethal shot in the field
- 3:53Speaker 2: over the last decade and a half, and it has
- 3:55Speaker 2: worked out mostly sort of. Now. I'm nowhere near as
- 3:59Speaker 2: bad as I will for a long time when buck
- 4:01Speaker 2: Fever just about pushed me into being a golfer. But
- 4:04Speaker 2: I still have up and down seasons that bothers me.
- 4:07Speaker 2: And last year I made three bad shots in a row.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Now that really bothers me, especially since they were all
- 4:14Speaker 2: on film. The record still stands. And while I made
- 4:18Speaker 2: a couple of satisfying short blood trail shots off camera,
- 4:22Speaker 2: three in a row stings. So I'm shooting now, not
- 4:26Speaker 2: a ton, but I'm shooting more now than I did
- 4:29Speaker 2: last year at this time, and that matters. I'm at
- 4:31Speaker 2: the stage of my life I'm sure a lot of
- 4:33Speaker 2: you listeners are at where it feels like work and
- 4:36Speaker 2: family obligations are this monster that just devours so much
- 4:40Speaker 2: of my time that when I do have some time
- 4:42Speaker 2: to relax, I actually kind of just want to relax,
- 4:45Speaker 2: but I usually don't because there are a small mouth
- 4:48Speaker 2: to be caught and bird ducks to be messed with,
- 4:50Speaker 2: and about a billion non work and non family things
- 4:53Speaker 2: that still need to get checked off the list. But
- 4:55Speaker 2: that's also an excuse I like to tell myself so
- 4:58Speaker 2: I feel less bad about the fact that I I
- 5:00Speaker 2: know I didn't shoot as much as I should have.
- 5:03Speaker 2: I'm not going to give myself that excuse this year,
- 5:05Speaker 2: and at the very least, it makes me feel better
- 5:08Speaker 2: about my prospects this fall for putting together a string
- 5:11Speaker 2: of many shots, all of which I can be proud of,
- 5:15Speaker 2: and shooting is important. In case you didn't think I
- 5:18Speaker 2: could say the most obvious shit possible, But think about this,
- 5:22Speaker 2: how many of the stone cold killers out there, you know,
- 5:25Speaker 2: the guys who just seem to get it done on
- 5:27Speaker 2: pressure deer, no matter where they are how many of
- 5:29Speaker 2: those do you consider to be really good bow shots?
- 5:32Speaker 2: A lot? I bet our focus is often on how
- 5:35Speaker 2: militant someone is with their scouting or you know, some
- 5:40Speaker 2: method of scouting or hunting that they have just given
- 5:42Speaker 2: themselves fully to that sets them apart from everyone else
- 5:46Speaker 2: in their region or maybe in the whole country and
- 5:48Speaker 2: all that jazz. That's the stuff that sells. Because most
- 5:52Speaker 2: people aren't as militant with their scouting or don't know
- 5:55Speaker 2: how to give themselves fully to some type of hunting.
- 5:59Speaker 2: That doesn't mean they couldn't, though, and that's the appeal.
- 6:02Speaker 2: I think a lot of folks think that maybe they
- 6:04Speaker 2: could borrow ten percent of how the hunting public goes
- 6:07Speaker 2: about it, or ten percent of whatever the hell it
- 6:09Speaker 2: is that Andy May does to be so successful. Is
- 6:12Speaker 2: emulate it, bam, kill a few more deer, and you
- 6:15Speaker 2: know what, It's probably true to some extent, but it's
- 6:18Speaker 2: also true that a hell of a lot of what
- 6:20Speaker 2: we do hinges on our ability to settle the right
- 6:22Speaker 2: pin in the right spot and go through the right
- 6:24Speaker 2: motions to send an arrow where it needs to go,
- 6:28Speaker 2: and doing that on a live deer that we really
- 6:31Speaker 2: want is often not that easy. The best we can
- 6:34Speaker 2: do most of the year is grab our bow, set
- 6:36Speaker 2: up a target, and work on the fundamentals of the
- 6:39Speaker 2: whole thing while developing some confidence. My wife is convinced
- 6:43Speaker 2: that our daughters will be the next Caitlin Clerks, and
- 6:46Speaker 2: I just let her go because, in all honesty, she
- 6:49Speaker 2: has never been a reasonable person, at least not one
- 6:52Speaker 2: that would listen to a whole lot this fella has
- 6:54Speaker 2: to say, which is ironic considering how many people listen
- 6:57Speaker 2: to what I have to say. Any huski. She has
- 7:01Speaker 2: the girls doing shooting drills and dribbling drills and earning
- 7:04Speaker 2: some kind of reward if they meet some basketball goals
- 7:06Speaker 2: throughout the week. One of them is to take a
- 7:08Speaker 2: thousand shots in a week. Now, when you're in seventh grade,
- 7:12Speaker 2: that's the kind of thing that could set you apart
- 7:14Speaker 2: from the pack, and it certainly paid off for them
- 7:17Speaker 2: last season. It didn't keep them from making any stupid mistakes,
- 7:21Speaker 2: you know, or losing it a bit when the games
- 7:23Speaker 2: got going and the pressure became real, but you could
- 7:25Speaker 2: see them shooting when the time was right and not
- 7:28Speaker 2: hiding or trying to pass the ball away on the
- 7:30Speaker 2: fear that they'll air ball won. That might seem like
- 7:34Speaker 2: a weird, small thing to us, but to them it's
- 7:36Speaker 2: not getting in. The reps matters a lot. This is
- 7:40Speaker 2: something that is a constant drum beat in the dog
- 7:42Speaker 2: training circles because you don't develop an amazing dog by
- 7:45Speaker 2: training for one hour every Saturday. You work with them
- 7:49Speaker 2: from the moment you bring them home, and your goal
- 7:51Speaker 2: is to establish the basics and then over a time,
- 7:54Speaker 2: expand on those basics. The reps happen multiple times a day,
- 7:58Speaker 2: no matter what. Now, when it comes to shooting a
- 8:01Speaker 2: deer with a sharp stick, those reps matter. They really
- 8:04Speaker 2: matter when that deer is a big one and it
- 8:06Speaker 2: comes in with four minutes of shooting light left and
- 8:09Speaker 2: poses up at the far end of your effective range,
- 8:11Speaker 2: and your heart is about to beat right out of
- 8:13Speaker 2: your chest and splat down on the leaves below your stand.
- 8:27Speaker 2: There are other ways procrastination can cost you. This past weekend,
- 8:31Speaker 2: I went to a small property here in the Cities
- 8:33Speaker 2: that I hunted last fall and pulled all of my
- 8:35Speaker 2: stands again. I wanted to do this earlier, but that
- 8:39Speaker 2: basketball season ate up a lot of time, the weather sucked,
- 8:43Speaker 2: you know, and other excuses, which shouldn't really matter. Getting
- 8:46Speaker 2: those stands down let me touch base with a landowner
- 8:49Speaker 2: who I hunt with out there, but also just made
- 8:51Speaker 2: me feel better about my season planning. Now I have
- 8:55Speaker 2: that inventory in my garage, sorted out, looked over, and
- 8:58Speaker 2: ready to go. When I decided to start hanging stands
- 9:01Speaker 2: for this season, some of them might go right back
- 9:04Speaker 2: to that property in the same trees they were in,
- 9:07Speaker 2: since I definitely figured a few things out this year,
- 9:09Speaker 2: but for now they'll stay in my garage. Now. I
- 9:13Speaker 2: doubt me sitting down on a Saturday to listen to
- 9:17Speaker 2: German death metal while sorting out that gear is going
- 9:20Speaker 2: to give me even a two percent advantage this fall.
- 9:23Speaker 2: But I know it won't hurt because I know that
- 9:26Speaker 2: during multiple times this summer, I'm going to have to
- 9:28Speaker 2: plan trips to my Minnesota properties and the stuff I
- 9:31Speaker 2: hunt in Wisconsin and this year a place in Nebraska.
- 9:34Speaker 2: I know the more that my gear is organized, the
- 9:36Speaker 2: better albeit planning out each property and what stands will
- 9:39Speaker 2: need to go where. But it's more than that, because
- 9:43Speaker 2: I'll actually hang stands in those spots, or at least
- 9:45Speaker 2: I'm far more likely to check all of those boxes.
- 9:48Speaker 2: When I have somewhat clean inventory of gear at home,
- 9:52Speaker 2: I won't get myself into the second guessing or the
- 9:55Speaker 2: easy way out mindset where I'm sweating my nuts off
- 9:57Speaker 2: somewhere in the woods and decide that I don't we
- 10:00Speaker 2: really need to stand here or there, because I might
- 10:02Speaker 2: need it somewhere else. I guess in a way, a
- 10:05Speaker 2: lot of this stuff is just about holding ourselves a
- 10:07Speaker 2: little more accountable to the entire process of being a
- 10:09Speaker 2: deer hunter. This is something I feel kind of separates
- 10:13Speaker 2: the kind of folks who will listen to a podcast
- 10:16Speaker 2: like this versus the kind of folks who won't. Maybe
- 10:19Speaker 2: that's the wrong way to look at it, but the
- 10:20Speaker 2: deer hunting world is full of people looking for four
- 10:23Speaker 2: leaf clovers to bestow upon themselves the kind of luck
- 10:26Speaker 2: it takes to kill a big one. Yet most of
- 10:29Speaker 2: those folks will mostly for most of their deer hunting lives, uh,
- 10:34Speaker 2: mostly fail at killing big bucks. And that's just fine
- 10:37Speaker 2: for them if that's what they want. Or to put
- 10:39Speaker 2: it in another way, they don't want to get ahead
- 10:41Speaker 2: of the work to level up, that's great. A lot
- 10:43Speaker 2: of people don't really care about this stuff beyond a
- 10:45Speaker 2: couple of weekends each year, and they're just fine, resigning
- 10:48Speaker 2: themselves to the hands of fate, which rarely deliver easy,
- 10:51Speaker 2: mature bucks right into their laps. We kind of default
- 10:55Speaker 2: to hoping the future will just work itself out for us.
- 10:58Speaker 2: It's human nature, but it also often doesn't. This leads
- 11:03Speaker 2: to some rough stuff in hunting and in life when
- 11:05Speaker 2: the moment hits you that you realize you're just not prepared,
- 11:09Speaker 2: or at least as prepared as you should be. This
- 11:12Speaker 2: can cause despair, or it can cause us to default
- 11:14Speaker 2: to oh well mode, or just decide to do twenty
- 11:18Speaker 2: percent of what you really want to do. That oh
- 11:21Speaker 2: well mode is so damaging, and it's really prevalent when
- 11:25Speaker 2: it comes to things like retirement planning. I run into
- 11:28Speaker 2: people often who just say they'll work until they die,
- 11:31Speaker 2: that there is no real reason to put money away
- 11:33Speaker 2: since they are already behind and what they could spare
- 11:36Speaker 2: will just never be enough. It's easy to go that
- 11:39Speaker 2: route because the periods in our lives that are a
- 11:41Speaker 2: few decades away are impossible for us to imagine now.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Just like when you're a ten year old, you can't
- 11:47Speaker 2: imagine what it's going to be like to be forty
- 11:49Speaker 2: and have a couple of kids and a wife, and
- 11:50Speaker 2: a yard that needs to be mode and a boss
- 11:53Speaker 2: who you really despise, but you have to pretend to
- 11:55Speaker 2: like that's an alien world. It's so far in the
- 11:58Speaker 2: future that it's not worth a mental horse power to
- 12:00Speaker 2: even consider. But the same goes for that forty year
- 12:03Speaker 2: old who for whatever reason hasn't put any money away
- 12:07Speaker 2: and they try to think about life as a seventy
- 12:09Speaker 2: year old and just can't do it. There's too much
- 12:11Speaker 2: daylight between those ages. But you can bet your ass
- 12:14Speaker 2: that there are a very few seventy year olds who
- 12:16Speaker 2: would go back in time and save less money for retirement.
- 12:20Speaker 2: It doesn't work that way. Preparing for the future is
- 12:23Speaker 2: important on many levels, but in regard to hunting, it's
- 12:26Speaker 2: not just about being in a better spot to kill
- 12:29Speaker 2: a big buck. Sure, if that's your goal and you
- 12:31Speaker 2: procrastinate with all the work, you're almost guaranteed to fail.
- 12:36Speaker 2: And one of the worst feelings you can have as
- 12:37Speaker 2: a deer hunter, aside from missing like one hundred and
- 12:40Speaker 2: fifty inch buck on public land, is to suddenly realize
- 12:43Speaker 2: you only have three weeks left before the season kicks
- 12:45Speaker 2: off and you haven't set any stands, or put out
- 12:48Speaker 2: any cameras, or dust it off your boat to take
- 12:49Speaker 2: a few shots, or hell, organized your gear done, whatever
- 12:53Speaker 2: level of work is necessary to make you not freak out.
- 12:56Speaker 2: I think we kind of look at this stuff wrong.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Now.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Mark likes to tell about something. It's kind of like this.
- 13:02Speaker 2: You know, he sprays down his trail cameras after checking
- 13:05Speaker 2: them and touching them so the deer won't smell them.
- 13:08Speaker 2: His rationale is little stuff like that might give him
- 13:11Speaker 2: a one or two percent edge, and if he does
- 13:14Speaker 2: enough of that stuff, eventually it'll tip the odds in
- 13:18Speaker 2: his favor. Now, it's impossible to figure out if it
- 13:21Speaker 2: actually does, but it seems to stand a reason anyway.
- 13:24Speaker 2: That's also sort of an easy one to quantify for
- 13:26Speaker 2: most of us, because actions like that, you know, they're
- 13:29Speaker 2: directly connected to how the deer are going to react
- 13:31Speaker 2: to us, if that makes any sense at all. But
- 13:34Speaker 2: what about something more abstract, like just organizing your stuff
- 13:37Speaker 2: and taking care of it, or taking some more shots,
- 13:40Speaker 2: or figuring out a good camera strategy for your deer.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Least that will actually teach you something. You're just kind
- 13:46Speaker 2: of looking for a little edge somewhere somehow, because hunting
- 13:49Speaker 2: white tails is mostly really difficult. At least it is
- 13:52Speaker 2: if your goals are you know, represent some kind of
- 13:55Speaker 2: real challenge. There are no shortcuts to this stuff, and
- 13:58Speaker 2: it's the little things in the off seas that can
- 14:00Speaker 2: matter to your success, but only if you take them
- 14:02Speaker 2: seriously and understand that why you're doing what you're doing
- 14:06Speaker 2: is going to pay off, or I guess why you
- 14:09Speaker 2: should be doing what you should be doing. I don't
- 14:12Speaker 2: want to say that you have to go nuts and
- 14:14Speaker 2: give up everything else in your life to think about
- 14:16Speaker 2: Dear twenty four to seven, because that's kind of dumb,
- 14:18Speaker 2: and it probably wouldn't work. At least, it wouldn't work
- 14:21Speaker 2: to make hunting any more fun. I know that it's
- 14:24Speaker 2: instead just a slight shift in your mindset, one that
- 14:27Speaker 2: acknowledges the difficulty the whole thing, and how if we
- 14:30Speaker 2: long gain it the right way, we can make it
- 14:33Speaker 2: a little less difficult, or make ourselves two percent better,
- 14:37Speaker 2: which I guess is saying the same thing in a
- 14:38Speaker 2: different way. Remember, it's not the fun stuff that matters,
- 14:42Speaker 2: because that shit's easy to do. It's the work, Even
- 14:45Speaker 2: the little reps that only take an hour in the
- 14:47Speaker 2: garage here or twenty minutes more on the range there,
- 14:51Speaker 2: that stack up over time to give us an actual advantage. Now,
- 14:55Speaker 2: I know this isn't revolutionary stuff, but it's also something
- 14:57Speaker 2: that I think is really easy to agree with but
- 15:00Speaker 2: also really difficult to put into practice. We all know
- 15:03Speaker 2: we probably could do more, but we also almost always
- 15:06Speaker 2: don't do more. It's human nature. I guess. We assume
- 15:09Speaker 2: the rut will save us later, or maybe that we
- 15:11Speaker 2: can buy a certain bottle of dope and salvage a
- 15:14Speaker 2: disappointing season. But you can hunt the rut and spend
- 15:18Speaker 2: your paycheck on all the deer bodily fluids you really
- 15:20Speaker 2: can afford, and also still put in that off season work.
- 15:25Speaker 2: And if you do, it's very likely that your season
- 15:27Speaker 2: will break your way, and you can credit it to
- 15:29Speaker 2: the rut or the scentwick hanging twenty yards away from
- 15:31Speaker 2: your stand. But the likely reason for your success can
- 15:34Speaker 2: often be attributed to some habit that you've established, or
- 15:38Speaker 2: just some singular deer chore you did months earlier. Don't
- 15:41Speaker 2: forget about that. As the birds really start to gobble in,
- 15:44Speaker 2: the shallows warm up and the fish start to move in,
- 15:47Speaker 2: and don't forget to come back next week because I'm
- 15:49Speaker 2: going to talk about a topic almost no one wants
- 15:51Speaker 2: to hear about, but it's very important. I'm not even
- 15:54Speaker 2: going to say what it is because i want everyone
- 15:56Speaker 2: to listen, even if they don't really want to hear
- 15:58Speaker 2: about it. So there's a little miss for you, but
- 16:00Speaker 2: do come back next week. That's it for this week.
- 16:04Speaker 2: I'm Tony Peterson and this has been the Wire to
- 16:06Speaker 2: Hunt Foundations podcast, which is brought to you by First Light.
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