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  Speaker 2: Let's go, let's get the game off. Hey, great morning
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  Speaker 2: to you. Welcome into the radio program here on this Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: Chuck Powell, Ashley Ryan with you. Even though the show
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  Speaker 2: is called Chuck and Buck in the Mornings, I promise.
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  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, that's.
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  Speaker 8: Right, it is, it really is.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, why is that again? Because okay, just that's the
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  Speaker 10: name of the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I guess. Coincidentally, they hired Bucky and
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  Speaker 2: I oh ten years ago. Yeah, they were going to
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  Speaker 2: go Chucking Buck in the Morning no matter what, and
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  Speaker 2: then and then just worked out, yes, walked into it.
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  Speaker 2: I guess that's pretty isn't that crazy? Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, good work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for the longest time, I wanted to go. I
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  Speaker 2: wanted us to be the Michael Jordan Show.
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  Speaker 8: That would have been great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I just said, this is Chuck and
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  Speaker 2: Buck filling in for Michael Jordan every day, every single day.
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  Speaker 8: That's smart.
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  Speaker 2: But imagine the advertisers how easy it would have been
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  Speaker 2: to sell the program.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's a genius idea.
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  Speaker 10: I know they only and then, but then I think
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  Speaker 10: about it, and I think about how many questions we
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  Speaker 10: get about when Bucky's coming back? I think how many
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  Speaker 10: questions would we get about when is Michael Jordan coming back?
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  Speaker 2: What does Michael Jordan's start?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, when's I keep tuning in? So far know Michael Jordan?
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  Speaker 10: When's that happening?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll just put it this way. There's a chance
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  Speaker 2: that Bucky comes back, Okay, Yeah, there's no chance that
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  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan is ever going to be the co host,
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  Speaker 2: all right, or the host. At that point, I think
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure we become sidekicks. All right. Well, good
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  Speaker 2: morning to you all. Welcome into the radio program. It
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  Speaker 2: is good to have you with us. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: We've got a lot of great things to talk about today. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: our number one story, which we will discuss at length
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  Speaker 2: with experts and amongst ourselves and with you, quite frankly,
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  Speaker 2: is going to be what happened yesterday here in Seattle
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  Speaker 2: with our US men's soccer team as they fell to
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  Speaker 2: Belgium by a final score of four to one. But
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  Speaker 2: we do have some other things we'll discuss during the
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  Speaker 2: course of our four hours together. What's on tap. In
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  Speaker 2: a moment, we'll map it all out for you. So, yes,
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  Speaker 2: the US loses to Belgium four to one. The final
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  Speaker 2: score turns out all that hand ringing over Balligan was
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  Speaker 2: for naught. They didn't really need us to be down
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  Speaker 2: a guy to sort of dominate us, and in a
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  Speaker 2: strange way, and I do believe it was domination. I
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  Speaker 2: mean I felt that way at the first hydration break.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, it should be five to one. We should
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  Speaker 2: be losing five to one, right, we were that bad? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we were that bad in the game. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: as sports fans, and admittedly, and I keep doing this
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  Speaker 2: every day, I don't really know this sport all that well.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really even care to know this sport all
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  Speaker 2: that well. I'm just not that big a fan. But
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  Speaker 2: I certainly got into the World Cup.
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  Speaker 9: I was drawn to.
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  Speaker 2: The magnitude of the event, certainly to the patriotism, you know,
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  Speaker 2: supporting your US team. So I certainly was there front
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  Speaker 2: and center last night. I'm getting ready for this match
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  Speaker 2: and kind of counted the seconds toward it. I actually
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  Speaker 2: showed up at my bar, wouldn't Creek Kitchen prematurely they
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  Speaker 2: weren't even open yet. Yeah, yeah, So, I mean that's
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  Speaker 2: how in anticipation I was. I wanted to make sure
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  Speaker 2: I got a good seat, make sure when the door's
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  Speaker 2: opened that I you know, I got there a place
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  Speaker 2: at the bar, had a fantastic night there. But certainly
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  Speaker 2: I was invested in what's happening with our US men's
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  Speaker 2: soccer team. But I do want to say, not a
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  Speaker 2: huge fan of the sport, and it does color my analysis,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure a little bit. But there have been plenty
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  Speaker 2: of times as sports fans where we are very invested,
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  Speaker 2: emotionally invested. No every player on the roster, no the background,
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  Speaker 2: every player on the roster, and you get to the
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  Speaker 2: end of the season and you have your year conclude
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  Speaker 2: and you look at, oh man, if that bounce would
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  Speaker 2: have gone that way, or if we would have gotten
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  Speaker 2: that call, or oh man, if X player would have
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  Speaker 2: just shown up, or if ex player wouldn't have gotten
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  Speaker 2: thrown out. You know, they are all. I mean, how
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  Speaker 2: many times in your life did your season end? Did
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  Speaker 2: we discuss if Michael Pennix Junior would have just played
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  Speaker 2: as well against Texas as he did, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: he would have played as well against Michigan as he
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  Speaker 2: did against Texas. I mean, there are all scenarios that
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  Speaker 2: you when a season comes to a close, and the
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  Speaker 2: bitter disappointment of that season comes to a close, you
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  Speaker 2: can point to maybe one or two things that would
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  Speaker 2: have changed the outcome, and maybe we'd still be carrying on.
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  Speaker 2: In a strange way, I feel a bit relieved because
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  Speaker 2: we had no shot in that match. As it turns out,
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  Speaker 2: that was such total domination that you're like, oh, good
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  Speaker 2: for you, Belgium. Good luck the rest of the way,
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  Speaker 2: because we certainly don't deserve to keep playing. So again,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the sport all that well. I can't
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  Speaker 2: necessary early break it down for you, but what I
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  Speaker 2: could see last night we were out played, we were
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  Speaker 2: out manned, we were out coached, We were out hustled,
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  Speaker 2: we were out efforted, we were out schemed, and we
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  Speaker 2: were just overall outmatched.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's you'd have to put a list of
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  Speaker 2: five hundred things together that would have had to go
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  Speaker 2: the other way in order to win that match. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: soccer is set up where it doesn't ever look like
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  Speaker 2: a blowout. I mean, you're not losing by forty goals
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  Speaker 2: ever in a match like you might lose forty points
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  Speaker 2: a basketball game or by fifteen runs in a baseball game.
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  Speaker 2: But as far as soccer matches go, that was about
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  Speaker 2: as one sided as it gets. And in a strange way, Ashley,
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  Speaker 2: it feels almost like a relief. I'm like, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: tied up in knots over this whatsoever.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Part of that is I'm not that huge of a
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  Speaker 2: soccer fan, I'm sure, but I'm a better team won.
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  Speaker 2: I feel good about sport, some life and justice right now.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, there was there's no way that the
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  Speaker 10: US can make any argument for if any if this
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  Speaker 10: had happened, or if this had happened, we would have won.
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  Speaker 10: We from the beginning, from the second it started, it
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  Speaker 10: seemed like they were on a mission and we were
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  Speaker 10: tired or slow or something. I don't know what it was,
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  Speaker 10: but we didn't have the energy that they had, which
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  Speaker 10: was I think that was the thing that disappointed me.
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  Speaker 10: You're back here in Seattle. Everybody's been talking about the
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  Speaker 10: energy that you know, this stadium has been giving. Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: and to then show up flat.
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  Speaker 8: That was the disappointment. It was like, oh, you're not even.
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  Speaker 10: I mean when they got their first goal and then
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  Speaker 10: immediately gave Belgium a goal right back, I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 10: you just they don't have it.
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  Speaker 8: They didn't have it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I will say normally I might even push
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  Speaker 2: back on that, like I'm not going to base this
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  Speaker 2: off of just how the effort was wanting. There was
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  Speaker 2: so much that they came up short on. I think
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  Speaker 2: that they're to a man. Belgium played better, yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: in the match last night. But I will say this,
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  Speaker 2: for those that they do pay to be experts, that
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  Speaker 2: has been the number one thing that has been brought
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  Speaker 2: up on every expert I've heard or watched talk about this,
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  Speaker 2: like the effort wasn't there, the energy wasn't there. They
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  Speaker 2: were step slow, they were slow to every ball. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: so that's what the experts. I mean, that's where they're
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  Speaker 2: going with all of it is that's the first thing
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  Speaker 2: that they are pointing out. And I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: that could even be right. I mean, certainly you weren't
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  Speaker 2: bothered by the controversy that Balligan was allowed to play,
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  Speaker 2: that you didn't feel like, oh, I don't even want
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  Speaker 2: to play if this was going to be the case.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, certainly that wasn't it. Certainly it wasn't the
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  Speaker 2: setting because it was beautiful, it was ideal, it was picturesque.
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  Speaker 2: The crowd, the US crowd showed up in full frenzy,
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  Speaker 2: So it couldn't have been that. So what gives? What
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  Speaker 2: is the explanation? How on Earth and the biggest match
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  Speaker 2: of your lives are you caught a half step slow
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  Speaker 2: across your entire roster? How is that even possible?
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  Speaker 10: I will say the only person who I think, from
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  Speaker 10: start to finish looked like they were ready to play
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  Speaker 10: with Tilman start to finish.
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  Speaker 8: Tillman was out there running around the entire game. He
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  Speaker 8: was trying.
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  Speaker 10: And then when Burholter came in too, he at least
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  Speaker 10: was like pumped up and had the energy.
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  Speaker 2: I noticed that.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I wrote that down, yeah, but everybody else seemed
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  Speaker 10: n yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that I mean that that's why I don't lead
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  Speaker 2: with it, even though they did, even though you have,
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  Speaker 2: I don't lead with it because I can't believe that
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  Speaker 2: it's like we didn't want it, or we didn't want
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  Speaker 2: it enough, or I can't believe that it came down
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  Speaker 2: to energy. What I think it came down to is
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  Speaker 2: they realized very quickly, oh man, we they are in
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  Speaker 2: the right spot every single time. So that's why I think,
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  Speaker 2: in a way it comes down to coaching. I don't
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  Speaker 2: care if. I mean, I don't know a lot about this,
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  Speaker 2: but when I watch one team and everywhere you go
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  Speaker 2: on this gigantic field that they play on, and everywhere
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  Speaker 2: you go, the other team has an answer. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 2: then in a sport where it's hard to even get
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  Speaker 2: the ball in front of the goal, and for the
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  Speaker 2: entire first twenty two minutes of the match, they spent
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  Speaker 2: the entire twenty two minutes in front of our goal.
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  Speaker 2: And like I said, we were lucky to be down
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  Speaker 2: only three to one. It should have been five to
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  Speaker 2: one by the first hydration break. I mean, that's how
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  Speaker 2: many good looks and how many good chances that they had.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go first and foremost to coaching because
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  Speaker 2: whatever scheme they had, I don't think they had better athletes,
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  Speaker 2: but whatever scheme they had, they just seemed to be
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  Speaker 2: in the right place at the right time every single time.
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  Speaker 2: And we I think adjusted. I think there were adjustments
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  Speaker 2: made after the hydration break, and there were even more
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  Speaker 2: adjustments made after halftime, but for an entire first half
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  Speaker 2: of the first half, and you just seem to be
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  Speaker 2: late everywhere you go. Yeah, I mean, I can't believe
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  Speaker 2: it's we weren't ready to play. We weren't ready for
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  Speaker 2: the moment. I think you got out schemed, and I
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  Speaker 2: think you just got out executed. And that is where
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  Speaker 2: that goes on the shoulders of every single person wearing
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  Speaker 2: US uniform yesterday.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, and I hear what you're saying. I mean it
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  Speaker 10: was it was embarrassing, honestly, like to watch the to
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  Speaker 10: have gone in and with all the hype and all
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  Speaker 10: the excitement and everything we've been hearing, and oh this,
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  Speaker 10: you know, this Belgium team is older and and US
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  Speaker 10: is younger, and they've got all this energy and they've
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  Speaker 10: got all these things and it's like, Okay, yeah, we've
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  Speaker 10: got this, We've got this, and then for it to
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  Speaker 10: come out as flat as it did, and for them
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  Speaker 10: to come out and score so quickly and just look
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  Speaker 10: so much better. I mean from the fundamentals of soccer.
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  Speaker 10: They looked so much better at everything. And then I
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  Speaker 10: I mean, you couldn't help but laugh in the second half,
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  Speaker 10: when then the guy that everybody.
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  Speaker 8: Talks about all the time, Lacoco, is then coming in.
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  Speaker 10: You're like, so they've been kicking our butts this whole
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  Speaker 10: time and he's been on the bench.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know. It was start to finish, it was.
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  Speaker 8: It was embarrassing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I mean, I'm not embarrassed by it.
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  Speaker 2: I suppose if I had have gone out on a
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  Speaker 2: limb and claim that that we're gonna win at all.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I actually feel kind of good. I do.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not because I'm not patriotic or I didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to see the team win. Like I said, I
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  Speaker 2: was there a half hour before they even opened the
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  Speaker 2: doors yesterday to to you know, take in the game,
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  Speaker 2: take in the match. But there's something sort of almost
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  Speaker 2: cathartic about oh yeah, the better team went on yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that makes you feel at least makes me feel okay
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  Speaker 2: about it. I think there were some other things and
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  Speaker 2: and by the way, I want to open this up
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  Speaker 2: to day four nine four or five to one to
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  Speaker 2: text anybody that wants to respond on YouTube. Again, I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of a know it all when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: sports talk radio, but usually just in my fields that
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  Speaker 2: I've studied my entire life as a child, played everything else.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm never going to say you tell me if
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  Speaker 2: I'm right or wrong. You know, I'm never going to
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  Speaker 2: appear more vulnerable when it comes to a sports topic.
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  Speaker 2: Then I'm admitting to being in this. So we'll get
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  Speaker 2: to this a little bit later on in the show.
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  Speaker 2: But I want to hear from your text anything that
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  Speaker 2: you disagree with or agree with. I'd like to know
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  Speaker 2: if you will like agree with because I'm getting ready
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  Speaker 2: to go in hot takey here on a sport that
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I should, So feel free to respond,
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  Speaker 2: and you can be as funny or you know, nasty
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  Speaker 2: cute as you want to be and your responses. But
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  Speaker 2: we'll get to some of those a little bit later
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  Speaker 2: on in the show. But just a few things. Number
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  Speaker 2: one holistics not a star. I mean, if this sport
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  Speaker 2: is supposedly this dominated by super stardom, and one guy
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  Speaker 2: Laonel Messi can join Miami in the MLS and they
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  Speaker 2: go from the worst team in the league to the
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  Speaker 2: best team in the league. If one player can have
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  Speaker 2: that kind of an impact, then we don't have that
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  Speaker 2: kind of player. I don't. I mean, he.
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  Speaker 8: Wasn't even the best player on our team.
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  Speaker 2: He's not the best player on our team. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: even sure he's in the top five. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: I watched a guy last night who wasn't athletic enough
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  Speaker 2: to get around defenders, wasn't strong.
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  Speaker 8: Enough to separate himself for the injury.
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  Speaker 2: Separate himself from defenders, who wasn't crafty enough in order
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  Speaker 2: to overcome some of those physical limitations. He's obviously not
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  Speaker 2: a physical, hulking figure, so you know there's some limitations there.
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  Speaker 2: But he was supposed to be this wizard, and there
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  Speaker 2: was no wizardry going on on the pitch throughout the tournament,
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  Speaker 2: but particularly last night, he was completely taken out of
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  Speaker 2: the game. And if you think I'm harsh about it,
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  Speaker 2: Carly Lloyd, who got paid to analyze it, said last
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  Speaker 2: night that he played timid, tentative, and scared. I can't
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  Speaker 2: imagine having three things worse said about me if I'm
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be the best player on the team in
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  Speaker 2: the biggest game of my life, to have another person appear,
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  Speaker 2: somebody who has competed for World Cups say of my game,
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  Speaker 2: I look timid, tentative, and scared.
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  Speaker 8: No, and I've she nailed it.
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  Speaker 10: Because, especially for a casual soccer fan like us, all
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  Speaker 10: we heard about going into this for Team USA, all
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  Speaker 10: you hear about is Polisic, Polisic, Policic. I mean that
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  Speaker 10: name has been drilled into our brains for the last month.
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  Speaker 10: And then to have watched him, not even just last night,
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  Speaker 10: in this tournament in general, he was a non factor.
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  Speaker 10: And people will say, I understand there's soccer things that
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  Speaker 10: I don't understand that he's doing that I don't get.
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  Speaker 8: But again, to a.
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  Speaker 10: Casual fan who's heard this name the whole time, you
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  Speaker 10: watch a game and you're like, where is this guy?
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  Speaker 2: Oh he was? It was a non factor last night.
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  Speaker 2: If anything, he was a detriment last night. And Burholter,
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  Speaker 2: to your point, actually came in and provided a lift
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  Speaker 2: a little bit at least some energy. It looked like
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  Speaker 2: he wanted to come back and win, and I realized that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that looked like a legitimate injury. I questioned
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  Speaker 2: a lot of injuries, but when Polisic got kind of
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  Speaker 2: caught from behind trying to full swing his leg, I
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  Speaker 2: think he was really hurt, and so I understand why
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  Speaker 2: he went out of the match. But I don't understand
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  Speaker 2: anything about his game until that point. I'll say that much. Then, Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Belgium did a great job of pushing the ball away
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  Speaker 2: from the middle of the field. They lived in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the field. They kept pushing our ball to
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  Speaker 2: the outside, and I think for good reason, they know
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  Speaker 2: that our players out there are terrible. Now again, feel
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  Speaker 2: free to correct me on this.
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  Speaker 8: I can't.
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  Speaker 2: I'll open my I'm very vulnerable in this topic. But
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  Speaker 2: what I watched last night were two guys on the
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  Speaker 2: outside that just kept turning the ball over every time
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  Speaker 2: they touched it. I had one guy that was too passive,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Robinson on the left, and then one guy who is
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: too aggressive dest on the right. And I got news
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: for you. When you pass any kind of ball or object,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: whether it's with your hand or your feet, if you
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: throw it right at the person, it won't pass through them.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: They're not ghosts, they're not apparitions. Okay, that ball, they're
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: not going to dissolve just because you kicked it hard
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: and you really want it to go through them. So,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, every time we seem to have a break
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: with dest on the right side, he would her he
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: would sprint with speed, I'll give him that. And he
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: dribbled the ball well, and he would go right to
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the only guy in his path and kick it right
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: at a ship. That can't be strategy. That can't be
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: something that's taught. That can't be Well, if we kick
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: it at his shins, maybe it'll bounce off toward the
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: middle of the field right to one of our guys.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: If that's your strategy, then and this sport, I like
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: it even less than I thought I did.
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's also a lot more math involved
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: than I thought.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And then it didn't It didn't help matters that our
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: goalkeeper had to have authored one of the biggest blunders
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: in American sports history.
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: Oh, it's terrible.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, you do know that you can touch the
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: ball with your hands, right.
• 18:22
  Speaker 10: He couldn't that when he was outside the box. I
• 18:25
  Speaker 10: think he can't when he's outside that big box. I
• 18:28
  Speaker 10: don't think he Oh was he outside the box?
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what he was thinking, what he
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: was doing, but it's as if he was started playing
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: hot potato. You ever play hot potato? Oh, you can't
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: touch it's hot. No, No, you got to get rid of
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: it as fast as you can. And he was like,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I don't want it. I don't I don't want to.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: You are the goalkeeper, you are the shepherd. You are
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the protector of our net. You are not supposed to
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: allow goals in and you just backed away, Yeah, from
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: an active ball with two defenders standing next to you.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: How does that happen?
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: It was. That was like a slow motion train wreck.
• 19:08
  Speaker 10: Watching it, you're like, oh my, yeah, it was. I mean,
• 19:15
  Speaker 10: and again, casual soccer fans, you and I.
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: I've never seen anything like that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: It's got to be one of the biggest blunders. And
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was the equivalent of like Jim Marshall
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: running the other way for the Minnesota Vikings with the ball. Yeah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: that is that's as bad as you could play that ball. Yeah,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: it was terrible, and that big of a moment and
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: you're supposed to be our best in the war in
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: our country at the job of keeping the goal safe.
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: That is your job.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: What I mean, I've never even I've never walked up
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: to a building to the security guard and he's like, here,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: here's your gun and here's my pass. Now go for that.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: That's a skeleton key to get you in any room.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: You can go shoot anybody you want. That's basically what
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: he did on that play, that individual play. So it's
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: got Yeah, I had a hard time living that down.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: So I guess what I'm saying is when you get
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: beaten that badly and I have, I mean certainly not
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: at this level and this scale, but I have been
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: beaten that badly in a big moment in my life,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: and yet you just walk away from like, okay, I'm
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: okay with that. I mean, better team one. We certainly
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: didn't lose by a bad bounce or a bad call.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Those are the things you can't live with. No, that
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: was just utter domination, an unexpected domination. I was certainly
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: wasn't expected. I thought we were going to win. I
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: thought we would win without Baigan.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: And yet Belgium clearly has our number and They clearly
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: were better coached last night. They had a better scheme,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: they were better executing, they had better energy, they had
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: better effort. They were too a man better than the
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: US team last night. And from that standpoint, Okay, yeah,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I guess. I guess I don't have any complaints at
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: this stage. And I'll just say this just to be snarky,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: because I've been a good boy for a month, I'll
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: say honestly, and I don't mean to hurt anybody's feelings
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: with this. I don't, And feel free rip on me
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: on the text. We're gonna read some of them later.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: If we're not going to be the best at something,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with it being this.
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: That's fair.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: And we're not. We're not anywhere close, and we're not
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: getting closer. No, So if we're not, if there's going
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: to be something in the US because we're proud of
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: being the best at stuff, there gonna be something that
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: we're not the best at, I'm fine with it being this.
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: Okay, I think that's fair.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I'm good. Yeah, all right, let's find out what's on tap?
• 21:50
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• 22:07
  Speaker 2: We'll get to your responses a little bit obviously. Ashley
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: and I have a little bit more to say about
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: it about the match last night, and we'll also check
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: in with a couple of experts. Actually I think it's
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: just one person, Danny Jackson Feltz will join us here
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: today both at eight o'clock and nine thirty. Belgium and
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Spain advanced to the next round. Will be the last
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: World Cup match for one of the all time greats. Rinaldo.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Also got to be one of the all time most
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: handsome men, handsome yann.
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: He's a good looking guy. But thinking of Portugal, right Portugal.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Because Belgium in Spain advance. Oh yeah, Rinaldo played his
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: last match, got it? Okay? Yeah?
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: Sorry?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Two more spots left in the next round. Argentina and
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Egypt play this morning at nine o'clock am, and then
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Switzerland versus Columbia at one pm. Wimbledon. There's actually going
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: on right now. Pretty good American matchup right now on
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the women's side. Jessica Pagoula the four seed and Coco
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Golf the seventh seed. They're playing as we speak, so
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: is Men's one seed Yonick Center. He was tied last
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I saw in the first set Storm eighty two sixty
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: four winners over the Sparks last night, so will win.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: But just the sixth and twenty three games for the
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Storm so far this year. We're on Lebron watch that continues.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Brad Stevens of the Celtics, who traded Jalen Brown, spoke
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: about it last night. I thought it was very glib,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: very honest, very candid. Obviously, when you are that honest
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: and candid about something that you did behind the scenes,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: it doesn't go over all that well, and so people
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: did not like the answers that he gave. But I
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: do believe him when he said that we just could
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: not in today's NBA pay two players that much money
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: and compete. So I do believe that he believes what
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: he said. I'm not sure I'm buying it. As a
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: basketball analyst. Shane Wright trade season, Well, we've got a
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: little bit more news on that we're going to share
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: at seven thirty. Major League Baseball deadline is in four weeks.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: The MLB Draft is in four days and the Mariners
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: will be in Miami taking on the Marlins today at
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: three point forty, and we'll spend plenty of time on
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: that later on in the show. Ryan Heaty will join
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: us today at nine o'clock. But coming up next, all
• 24:29
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• 24:36
  Speaker 2: ninety three point three.
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: Kjil Richard's peting out of the air. Freeze has got
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: to get there and deal with it.
• 24:48
  Speaker 12: He takes it down off the chest to cattle, knocks
• 24:52
  Speaker 12: it away.
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: Tim Rave can't block it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 12: And unless video review says this is a foul from
• 24:58
  Speaker 12: behind on Rain, it is a disastrous third goal to
• 25:02
  Speaker 12: concede to Belgium.
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: That's something I thought that was the best, all encompassing highlight.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Best of the worst. Yep, yeah, hey, good morning to you.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: We roll into our second hour here on this Tuesday,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: and there are a couple of things that are indisputable.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Number one, I should have feed before we came back
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: on the air, and then number two also that the
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: US really doesn't have a leg to stand on. They
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: got eliminated soundly from the tournament last night, And I'm
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: actually kind of okay with that. At least we're not
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: sitting here talking about a bad call or a bad
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: play or a baligan wasn't allowed to play or anything
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, we were at full strength, we were
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: at home, fans showed out, Seattle was gorgeous last night,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: and our soccer team got completely outplayed.
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: Yes, start to finish and out coached.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: And they lost four to one to Belgium, and so
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: any thought of advancing deep into the World Cup, that's
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: not gonna happen. Belgium moves on and they will take
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: on Spain in the next round. Let's go to your headlines.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: They are brought to you by Frost Brewed Corps Light
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  Speaker 2: Choice Chill. Yes, Belgium got off to a very fast start,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: could have been even faster. The way they outplayed the
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: US in the first twenty two minutes before the first
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: hydration break was sheer dominance and we were lucky not
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: to be trailing five to one at that point, ended
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: up losing four to one. Danny Jackson's going to join
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: us at eight o'clock today. Jackson Feltz will join us
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: at nine point thirty, So we're gonna get pretty plenty
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: of expert analysis coming your way on the show today.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Plus we'll remind you of our hot takes this morning
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: at six o'clock and get your reaction here in a
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: matter of minutes. But let me get through the rest
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: of the headlines. First, Belgium and Spain advance in the tournament.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Ronaldo knocked out yesterday by Spain. Looks like that will
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: be his final World Cup match, but an amazing career
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: for him. There are two more spots to claim in
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the round of eight. Argentina will face Egypt this morning
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: at nine o'clock and then Switzerland versus Columbia from Vancouver
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: at one o'clock this afternoon. Go Columbia. Oh yeah, you've
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: got them right, Yeah, our green jacket rat. We all
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: have two teams remaining, all of us. But of course
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I still have to get another win, and Andrews has
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: to get Argentina a win today. But you have two
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: safely in the nest. I got to get my second
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: bird in the nest. So rest of your headlines, because
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: there is other stuff going on right now. Storm. They
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: won over the Sparks last night eighty two to sixty four,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: just their sixth win this year in twenty three tries.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: We remain on a Lebron watch. Kind of heard yesterday
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: that people that are reading between the lines that maybe
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Cleveland is the favorite, that he returns home full circle
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and plays his last year or two with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: But we shall see. Brad Stevens spoke yesterday about his
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: controversial trade of Jalen Brown. I thought he was actually
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: quite candid and made it rather clear that they just
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: didn't think that they were getting closer to a championship,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: and that the two salaries of Tatum and Brown would
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: bog things down rather than free them up to get better.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And so that was his explanation. Not a lot of
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: people were buying it. Those that did buy it were
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: still angry because the Celtics certainly do not look like
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: a better basketball team without Jaylen Brown, and that looked
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: like an awfully blop side of trade. Speaking of trades,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: we are in trade season, and coming up later this hour,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you the trade the Mariners will make,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and I will also tell you the team that Shane
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Wright should land on. So that's what we're gonna do today.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: At seven point thirty in regards to trade season, and
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the Mariners will in action in Miami against the Marlins
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: three forty, first pitch. Max Myers had an All Star
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: season so far for the Marlins. So is Brian Wu
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: when he's been at home on the road. Different story.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: So that's your pitching matchup, and it will be on
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: the road, Meyer versus Wu in Miami, first pitch at
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: three forty. We are four weeks from the trading deadline,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: just four days from the MLB Draft. All right, So
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: there you go. Those are your headlines, brought to you
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• 29:30
  Speaker 2: US soccer falls to Belgium four to one. So here
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: were my takes on all of this. But I'm also
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: admittedly and I've been very honest about this throughout the
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: entire process. Whether that's been annoying you that I've been
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: so honest and so repeat I've repeated my honesty so frequently,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: or if you appreciate it, whatever the case may be.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I've opened myself up because I tried analyzing this loss
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: last night at six o'clock and I said, please please
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: hit us text line four nine four five one YouTube,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: you can send a message that way as well. We're
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: up and going on YouTube as well, and so here
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: are my takes. I think we got outplayed, out coached,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: out schemed, out hustled, out efforted, out executed, and overall outmatched.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know what else to call it. I mean,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not steeped in soccer knowledge, but when the other
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: team seems to always be in your way, yeah, whenever
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: you try to do something offensively, they always seem to
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: be in the right spots. And then their team you
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: want to get the ball in front of the goal right,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: is constantly finding their way in front of your goal.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: You're they were just a step ahead in every way.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure that has something to do with execution,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: but I certainly think it starts with we have the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: wrong game plan. We had the wrong scheme and Poachattino
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: did not have this team nearly as ready to play
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: as what Belgium's head coach had as team.
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and that's the disappointing thing is to watch from
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: start to finish. Literally the second that first whistle they
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: were aggressive on offense.
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: We were not.
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: We were playing scared. We couldn't even make simple passes.
• 31:17
  Speaker 10: I mean, it looked like we were just not even
• 31:20
  Speaker 10: on the same level as Belgium.
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: And it didn't look like.
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: We were trying as hard either, which you know, I mean,
• 31:27
  Speaker 10: I don't like talking about that. An athlete maybe didn't
• 31:30
  Speaker 10: put forth their best effort. Maybe trying too hard or
• 31:33
  Speaker 10: as hard isn't the best way. I just don't think
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: the effort was there. It didn't seem like they were
• 31:37
  Speaker 10: up for the moment.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were just a half a step ahead to
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: a man. Yeah, it wasn't like one guy was shining
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: to a man. They seem that way. Some other quick
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: takes and then we'll get to your comments. I said,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know a lot about soccer, but to me,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Christian Polistic does not look like a star. And if
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: superstars have that big of an impact on a soccer program,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: we don't have one of those. Yeah, And I think
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Baligan's clearly better than him, and I'm not sure we
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: don't have three or four guys that are better than him,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: based on what I saw in the tournament. Carly Lloyd
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: went as far as saying he played timid, tentative, and
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: at times scared, and you can't have your best player
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: play that way, not in this stage. I think that
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: the freeze the goalkeeper had one of the all time
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: blunders in American sports history. And I think that the
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: guys that were on the wings, Robinson and Desk, were terrible.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Like I would think, at bare minimum, as a soccer player,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: you should be accurate with your kicks.
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: That's probably pretty important.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, you couldn't have been the only unless their
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: goal was to kick it in the shins of the
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: guy in front of them. Every single time that was
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: dest Robinson was more I just throw floaters that nobody
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: can get to. So it was two different forms of inaccuracy,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: and yet they just repeated it over and over until
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: they benched one of the two at halftime. So those
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: are my takes, But I want to get to your
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: reaction to that, because maybe I'm full of crap, which
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I'm perfectly okay with acknowledging or admitting here this morning.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: But what have the people that actually know something about
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: this sport having to say about that effort last night?
• 33:23
  Speaker 10: Let's see, we've got from Big Bear eighty seven on
• 33:28
  Speaker 10: the YouTube chat we played Scared and Unmotivated against Belgium.
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: It wasn't even fun to watch. Yeah, well, I'm moving
• 33:35
  Speaker 10: my microphone to sing. Have to move over a little
• 33:38
  Speaker 10: bit so I can see the YouTube chat's on the
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: far side of the screen.
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: Let's see. Harold said.
• 33:42
  Speaker 10: I think the whole red card issue being issued when
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: it should not have then been overturned and then all
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: the attention that brought really hurt psychology.
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: Maybe it would have been better if it had just stood.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Ye know, that's interesting. That did cross my mind. I
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: would like to think that they were energy by having
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Baligan available to them. I just but there was something
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: about their energy that was off. And I don't like
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: going there as a reason why you lost a game.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I want to go to like tangible reasons versus intangible
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: reasons first, but certainly intangible reasons can determine the outcomes
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: of even the biggest games. There's no question about it.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: And every single expert that weighed in on this last night,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: after the match this morning and watching the talking head
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: shows pretty much led with that every single time, that
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: we were just a step slow from the beginning to
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: a man, and where was the energy? Why did Belgium
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: have so much of it? Maybe that that did have
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: some sort of psychological effect. Maybe it was sort of
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: a self fulfilling prophecy. Oh Man, feels like we cheated
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: our way to getting Balogan on the field. I don't
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: even know if I like this, and maybe it did
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: affect him. If it did, you're very weak minded. You
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: should have been able to flush that before the game started.
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: I don't know that it had the negative effect on
• 35:05
  Speaker 10: the US, but I think it had a positive effect
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: on Belgium because they were fired up because they do
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: think that we cheated and that the host country pulled
• 35:12
  Speaker 10: in a favor to get their one of their best
• 35:14
  Speaker 10: players on the field, and they felt like they were
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: going to be wronged by a decision.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Well, even with that, shame on you US. I mean,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: it's the World Cup, It's a an elimination tournament, it's
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: the knockout stage. How could how could that not be
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: motivation enough?
• 35:36
  Speaker 11: No?
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I agree, And then you are going to let that
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: team out energy you because of the controversy. Why aren't
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: you prepared for that? Why aren't Why isn't Poachattino in
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: their faces? They're going to come out with even more
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: energy than what you thought. We've got to match it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: We've got to be better than it. Where was that hype?
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: So I don't even I don't, I don't, I don't know.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: And maybe it did have an effect, but it shouldn't have. No,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: that's my take. Yeah, it might have had an effect,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: but it shouldn't have. And if it did, we got
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: a really weak minded team.
• 36:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I would agree, And again I think it was
• 36:10
  Speaker 10: more a positive thing for Belgium versus a negative thing
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: for US. I saw Tillman and Burholter were the two
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: players for US that I thought had the most energy
• 36:19
  Speaker 10: throughout the game, and obviously Burholter wasn't in the entire time,
• 36:22
  Speaker 10: but everybody else was disappointing from Ryan, there's a premium
• 36:26
  Speaker 10: on goals in soccer. Going down nine minutes in the
• 36:29
  Speaker 10: US never had the momentum. When they answered quickly for
• 36:31
  Speaker 10: two to one, the players looked defeated already.
• 36:35
  Speaker 13: And again, unacceptable, right, I don't disagree with that, No,
• 36:40
  Speaker 13: I mean, I don't disagree with anything that anybody's saying,
• 36:43
  Speaker 13: and so far nobody's yet to disagree.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: With me, right exactly, but I think it's coming. So yeah,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: unacceptable to fall down one nothing and we just watched
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: a match the night before where Mexico fell down two
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: ill and then got back into the game. That's why
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: that third goal that the goalie led in was just
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: so crippling at that point. And that's why Burhalter stood
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: out to you, because we were still down two goals
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: and there was time to come back.
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, not a lot, no, but he.
• 37:17
  Speaker 10: Was ready to like, let's get kick this show into gear.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: He almost scored, and then even though he didn't score,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: you know, acted as if we can still do this,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: and he was the only one acting that way.
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I agree. Let's see from the three to six. Oh,
• 37:34
  Speaker 10: it was the poor passing throughout the match. I'm from
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: England though, l that's what that person said. Well that's fine,
• 37:40
  Speaker 10: I want to hear your poor passing. Yeah, you're correct.
• 37:44
  Speaker 10: From the four two five. US Soccer team just learned.
• 37:46
  Speaker 10: The difference between Triple A and the major leagues is
• 37:51
  Speaker 10: that it maybe, I mean Paraguay.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: We kicked the crud out of Paraguay and they actually
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: performed quite well against everybody else that they faced. Is
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: it just a bad matchup or did we really just
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: elevate in competition from the previous round to this round.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Is Belgium that much better? Than Bosnia. Is there that
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: big of a cutoff between the best eight and the
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: next eight? Is that the suggestion? I don't have the
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: answer for that.
• 38:21
  Speaker 10: I think it's interesting though, because when we listened to
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: our soccer experts, I mean the way that Jackson and
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: Anders would talk about it like this was gonna be
• 38:32
  Speaker 10: fairly not easy, but it wasn't going to be this well.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Brad Evans said differently. He pointed out how much of
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: a I mean, we lost to them five to one
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: the last time, we think, Yeah, true, and that was recently.
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so I don't know.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I mean again, I don't know enough about soccer to
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: really weigh in on this. It could be, but we
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: talk about this with football. We talk about this with
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: that's just a bad matchup, yeah, or that's a good
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe we match up really well against Paraguay. Maybe that's
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: it just fits our skill set, and maybe we don't
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: match up at all against Belgium. And then you add
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: they brought more energy that we never matched. Well, yeah,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: that's a recipe. Yeah we're losing right there.
• 39:13
  Speaker 10: Yeah, this is from the four two five. Belgium talked
• 39:17
  Speaker 10: about Trump's interference and how that fueled them so they
• 39:19
  Speaker 10: just wanted to destroy us, and they did well.
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: They sure did.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I think they wanted to destroy us either way. Yeah, well,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: there's no doubt. I mean they were. They carried it
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: into the match, There's no question about it all the
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: way to the end of the match. I don't know
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: if you noticed, but the fourth goal that was scored,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: the guy that scored, he made a gesture to of
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: the fans, and I think that was more like what
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: you've been loud, now shut up?
• 39:44
  Speaker 10: Also said two words yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: And then he did the Trump dance. Yep, he celebrated
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: with the Trump dance. So it was on their minds.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: But I'll just say this just in general, as a
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: professional athlete, if you need that to mo h you
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: to win a match, I mean, or if you let
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: another team use that as fuel to defeat you, I'm
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: just not going to use it as a reason why
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: they won, and I'm not going to use it as
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: an excuse why we lost.
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: No, they're zero. I mean, we were outplayed. That is
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: why we lost.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, and if and if that extra fuel that
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: they shouldn't have needed to play their absolute best, most
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: energetic games of their entire lives is what undermined the
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: US's chances. Then we got a really weak minded squad
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: and a really weak minded head coach. They didn't have
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: his weak minded team ready with a stronger approach to
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: how they were going to handle this mentally and psychologically.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: So I hear what you're saying. And yes it did.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Certain it was on their minds, probably everybody that was
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: there throughout the course of the day, and then it
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: certainly entered their minds while they were playing, certainly Belgium's minds,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: because they made estures to suggest that. But there is
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: no way I'm ever going to allow anybody that I
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: face to use that kind of outside fuel to beat me.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I gotta match that.
• 41:11
  Speaker 10: Yeah, the two six says Polisic is mentally weak. If
• 41:14
  Speaker 10: he's talented enough to play for Chelsea, and he looked
• 41:17
  Speaker 10: like that on the big stage, he lacks mental toughness.
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: I thought.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I thought even more like, I thought he was just
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: physically manhandled.
• 41:24
  Speaker 10: I never saw him in any throughout I mean, and yes,
• 41:27
  Speaker 10: I know he missed a game because of injury, but
• 41:29
  Speaker 10: I never saw him and thought, oh gosh, that guy
• 41:32
  Speaker 10: is clearly our star.
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: I mean, he just blends in well.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I think about Steph Curry because policy's not the biggest guy.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: He's not Holland from Norway. But think about Steph Curry.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: You know they talk about in basketball move without the ball,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: and Steph Curry could teach a class on this. I mean,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: he might be the best that's ever done it. You know, undersized,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: not that strong, but constantly in motion and constantly figuring
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: out way to get separation like a wide receiver tries
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: to get Jsn's not the fastest guy, he's not the
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: biggest guy in the National Football League. Nobody can cover
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: him because he's a master at how to create separation
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: with his routes, you know, with his angles that he takes.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: And if you're going to be undersized like Polisic is
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: and maybe not the fastest guy in terms of superstars,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: then you better be a master at ways to create
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: separation for yourself. He didn't create any separation at all.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: He hardly even got the ball.
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: He was non existent, he was.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Nonexistent, and when he did get the ball, there was
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: always somebody right there that kept him from kicking it
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: all the way up to the point where he injured himself.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Because he couldn't separate himself far enough to get a kickoff. Yeah,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: that is not a star. Like, if that's our star,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: then I'm not sure we've made any progress with our
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: soccer program here in this country. And I think that's
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: really my biggest takeaway. Like, I know we're at or
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: soccer program. I know we're better than the last team
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: that showed up in the World Cup, but so is
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: everybody else. They're better that they keep getting better at
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: the sport too. They keep scheming better, they keep evolving,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: and we're not closing the gap. We're around the sixteen
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: team tops, and it probably depends on the matchup whether
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: or not we would get to the sweet sixteen if
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: they reshuffled the deck and gave us different teams to
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: play along the way. That's what showed up to me.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: You don't get embarrassed like that. You don't get outplayed
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: to a man like that, if you're anywhere close on
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: the same level as Belgium. And yet Belgium, home of waffles.
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they dominated.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Little tiny Belgium like the size of eastern Washington, and
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: yet they dominated us last night in this sport that
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: we are supposedly closing the gap on. There's no quote closing.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: We have not closed it.
• 44:01
  Speaker 10: No, we need to find a better start if we're
• 44:03
  Speaker 10: going to work on closing that gap.
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: Let's see we've got This is from the two five
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: to three.
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: Not being a soccer fan, I don't really know what
• 44:10
  Speaker 10: excellent soccer looks like, but after last night, I sure
• 44:13
  Speaker 10: do know what crappy soccer looks like.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I agreed, Yeah, well it was it was rough for
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: to one the final score. You know what. We've weighed in,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: You've weighed in. Glad to hear from you here today.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: We will hear from Danny Jackson at eight o'clock, Jackson
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Felts at nine point thirty, and then we might morph
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: the two into Danny Jackson Felts before the show comes
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: to a close and have them stand fingers crossed, yeah,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Danny on top of Jackson's shoulders like master blaster and
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: provide one last bit of analysis before the show comes
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: to a close. So we're not done with it. We're
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: not done with it. Obviously, some frustration out there because
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: that is not what we were hyped about going into
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: last night. I mean I showed up. I showed up
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: my local bar Wooden Creek Kitchen thirty minutes beforehand, and
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I walked in, thought for sure I was and my
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: seat was taken. Oh yeah, it was already taken. And
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I was there thirty minutes early and my seat was
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: already taken. That's how hyped everybody was. People were ready,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: and people were ready, and there was just there was
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: one big giant cheer. That pretty much it. Yeah, everybody
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: else saw the riding on the wall. All of us did.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: All right. Coming up next, it is trade season, and
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: as I told you a little bit earlier, I'm going
• 45:33
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• 45:35
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• 45:48
  Speaker 3: And there's a man lying down behind the wall, which
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: means the wall could jump Tillman.
• 45:52
  Speaker 9: Over guys like Tillman.
• 45:56
  Speaker 12: Next, tritche twys the United States by.
• 46:00
  Speaker 14: The game, Trussar to the Barlin gets across into Cattillar's
• 46:05
  Speaker 14: rising up and Belgium retake the lead. Moments later charge
• 46:09
  Speaker 14: to Kettalara climbs the ladder his second goal, and the
• 46:13
  Speaker 14: US right back where.
• 46:14
  Speaker 11: They were not good.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Hey, great morning to you. It is Chuck ballin Ashley
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Ryan with you. The US men's soccer team knocked from
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: the World Cup last night, the round of sixteen, as
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: far as they could get again this year, and there
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: really aren't many excuses, just reasons. They got out played
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: in every single way as far as we could tell
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: on this show and according to our text line, according
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: to every expert that I heard on the talking head
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: shows last night and into this morning. But we want
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: to check in with our guys, the people we trust
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: the most, and joining us now one of those guys.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: You know, it's you know his voice, you know his face.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: You've come to trust him like you do your own mother.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Danny Jackson now joins us here on Chuck and Buck
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: in the Morning to talk about what happened last night,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: a four to one loss to Belgium. How are you, sir?
• 47:13
  Speaker 11: I am well. I feel injured and disappointed after last night,
• 47:18
  Speaker 11: but you know, good night's sleep and get through it.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is in your opinion? Because there are a
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: lot of reasons to be frustrated and disappointed, But what
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: stands out most about that performance last night?
• 47:32
  Speaker 11: I think you know, you can break it down a
• 47:34
  Speaker 11: variety of ways. We talked about it last night after
• 47:36
  Speaker 11: the game on the radio, and I think they just
• 47:39
  Speaker 11: did not turn up with the game and the occasion
• 47:42
  Speaker 11: too big for the players as a group as individuals.
• 47:46
  Speaker 11: Was the noise around Balligan and the red card and
• 47:50
  Speaker 11: his availability for the game just too much on the
• 47:54
  Speaker 11: eve of the game. And Belgium, which is well prepared.
• 47:58
  Speaker 11: There are a group of players who have been in
• 47:59
  Speaker 11: these type of situations before, both at the club level
• 48:02
  Speaker 11: in Europe and international level as well, and they were
• 48:06
  Speaker 11: just prepared for what the US was going to come
• 48:08
  Speaker 11: at them with, which was a boisterous crowd and incredible
• 48:12
  Speaker 11: build up to the game. Of course, the noise around
• 48:16
  Speaker 11: Balagan would have been a countermeasure for Belgium versus US,
• 48:20
  Speaker 11: they would have galvanized them as well, and they would
• 48:23
  Speaker 11: just came out the blocks firing. They controlled the game,
• 48:26
  Speaker 11: they controlled tempo, they got their early goal that took
• 48:29
  Speaker 11: the crowd out of it initially, and they played.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: A very good game.
• 48:32
  Speaker 11: But for the US, they just didn't turn up individually
• 48:35
  Speaker 11: or as a group. And you can point in a
• 48:38
  Speaker 11: variety of different things, but it just wasn't their day.
• 48:41
  Speaker 11: As Pochettino said, yeah.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're right. We could point at a variety
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: of things and maybe we'll get to all of them
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: before this conversation comes to a close. But I want
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: to point the finger at Pochettino because if those factors
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: did affect the way you played in your biggest game
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: of your lives, then I got to blame the coach
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: for that that he doesn't have his team team ready
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: to play, doesn't have the right energy, and Danny, I'm
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: no soccer experts, so I'll lean on you for this,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: But it just looked like Belgium had an answer for everything.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: We did look like they were in the right position
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: all night long, and the US never did look, especially
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: in the first twenty minutes, never did look like it
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: was in the right position. To me, they were lucky
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: to not be down five to one at the hydration break.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: So how much would you put at the feet of
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: the head coach last night?
• 49:30
  Speaker 11: Well, I would certainly put a level of responsibility on
• 49:33
  Speaker 11: the decision that you made on the selection of Balligan.
• 49:36
  Speaker 11: Tho's questions whether you would should have started him on
• 49:39
  Speaker 11: the bench, Would that have been the right thing to
• 49:41
  Speaker 11: do to dispel the noise and the distraction around that
• 49:45
  Speaker 11: the team has prepared obviously without Balligan for a number
• 49:48
  Speaker 11: of days, then all of a sudden there's a one
• 49:50
  Speaker 11: eighty split. But also the best eleven players were on
• 49:54
  Speaker 11: the field. He was able to select through the recovery
• 49:59
  Speaker 11: process to the medical staff put together the coaching staff
• 50:02
  Speaker 11: were able to put the best eleven on the field. Tactically, yes,
• 50:05
  Speaker 11: I think that they could have done something a little
• 50:07
  Speaker 11: bit different with Balligan. He was so effective against Australia
• 50:11
  Speaker 11: at lumen Field by playing the ball down the channels,
• 50:14
  Speaker 11: playing the ball over the top. The back four of
• 50:17
  Speaker 11: Belgium through the World Cup so far shown themselves to
• 50:20
  Speaker 11: be vulnerable against Senegal. Obviously, they gave up two goals
• 50:23
  Speaker 11: before their miraculous comeback in the last minutes, and they
• 50:27
  Speaker 11: didn't stretch the back four, they didn't take command of
• 50:30
  Speaker 11: that back four. But our defense as well, just individually
• 50:34
  Speaker 11: did not play well. They were on their heels straight
• 50:36
  Speaker 11: away and the field couldn't get tight and close. I
• 50:40
  Speaker 11: think Postina made a change at half time Bingham Rainer
• 50:43
  Speaker 11: on and you could see the momentum shift. So that
• 50:46
  Speaker 11: was a good coaching decision from Pochettino to make that
• 50:50
  Speaker 11: choice at halftime and be decisive of that decision. The
• 50:54
  Speaker 11: US had some momentum, and then of course the horror
• 50:56
  Speaker 11: show for that third goal just took the wind out
• 51:00
  Speaker 11: of any sale that the US had. And I think
• 51:04
  Speaker 11: just the fact from a coaching standpoint, you know, like
• 51:08
  Speaker 11: all sports, you put the players out on the field,
• 51:10
  Speaker 11: you give them certain tactics. Yes, you can question whether
• 51:13
  Speaker 11: the US played on the front foot. Should they have
• 51:15
  Speaker 11: come out quicker because Belgium had been slow out in
• 51:19
  Speaker 11: the blocks on many games. Think about the first game
• 51:21
  Speaker 11: against Egypt here in Seattle, where Belgium played in their
• 51:25
  Speaker 11: first game, they went down a goal early. They had
• 51:27
  Speaker 11: to chase the game and bring Luke Carco on for
• 51:30
  Speaker 11: that particular game to get the goal or at least
• 51:32
  Speaker 11: force that own goal. So the US came out of
• 51:35
  Speaker 11: the block slow, which I was surprised about. I think
• 51:37
  Speaker 11: that was the biggest marker for me from a coaching standpoint,
• 51:40
  Speaker 11: was Hey, play on the front foot, play aggressive. It's
• 51:43
  Speaker 11: what's worked so far, and they just didn't do that.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Danny Jackson is so with us. Of course, the voice
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: of the sounder has been a huge part of our
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: World Cup coverage here at iHeart and Sports Radio ninety
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: three point three khr FM. Why would he not be
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: and we are of course reacting this more wanting to
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: a four to one loss to Belgium and an ouster
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: from the twenty twenty six World Cup. You brought up
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: the horror show, what explained. Is there any explanation for
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: what Freeze was thinking on that third goal that was allowed.
• 52:18
  Speaker 11: No, it's one of those goals that he'll look back
• 52:21
  Speaker 11: on and for many many years for his entire career.
• 52:24
  Speaker 11: I would imagine it was just a moment of hesitation.
• 52:27
  Speaker 11: Why did he try to pass the ball? You know that,
• 52:29
  Speaker 11: You know there's a whole adage of if in doubt,
• 52:32
  Speaker 11: kick it out, and he made the right call. He
• 52:34
  Speaker 11: committed himself outside his box. He took the ball off
• 52:37
  Speaker 11: his chest, just swiped your left foot against it and
• 52:39
  Speaker 11: just knocked the ball up the field. Job done, people
• 52:42
  Speaker 11: will give you a round of applause. He didn't, and
• 52:45
  Speaker 11: it all fell apart there. Tim Reem should have done
• 52:47
  Speaker 11: a much better job clearing the ball when he went
• 52:50
  Speaker 11: back on towards his goal line. He wasn't able to
• 52:53
  Speaker 11: clear the ball. But if you look at all the goals,
• 52:56
  Speaker 11: I think each of them were individual mistakes. The first
• 52:58
  Speaker 11: goal they were not decided to clear the ball in
• 53:02
  Speaker 11: each ten yard box and they let the ball bounce.
• 53:04
  Speaker 11: That was inside the first ten minutes. Again, why was
• 53:07
  Speaker 11: the team not prepared and on their front foot and
• 53:11
  Speaker 11: defensively they had to be that way, which they weren't.
• 53:13
  Speaker 11: They of course got the goal back and then the
• 53:17
  Speaker 11: Cardinals sin in soccer certainly is conceding so quickly afterwards,
• 53:22
  Speaker 11: not just from a momentum standpoint and the crowd, but
• 53:25
  Speaker 11: also just the way that the game was going to
• 53:27
  Speaker 11: flow at that point. They had the goalback, they were
• 53:29
  Speaker 11: tied up, and then they gave that one back so quickly,
• 53:32
  Speaker 11: so all the goals were preventable. That was one of
• 53:36
  Speaker 11: the really disappointing things from an individual standpoint, all somewhat
• 53:40
  Speaker 11: individual errors.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: H Right, what do we have to say about Christian
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Polisic this morning? I mean, I've heard people just killing them.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: I've killed them this morning. Our listeners are killing them
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: this morning. He is supposed to be our best player,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: and to Ashley's point a little bit earlier in the show,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: it didn't even you didn't even know he was out
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: there for most of the game until he got hurt.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: So do we need a better superstar player than what
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: we have in Christian Polisic. You need a.
• 54:10
  Speaker 11: Group of players that are playing at the top level
• 54:14
  Speaker 11: and leaders at their respective clubs. I think that's what
• 54:19
  Speaker 11: I saw missing Politic. Yes, did not play well. He
• 54:22
  Speaker 11: was poor. He looked like he was lacking confidence for
• 54:25
  Speaker 11: some reason. When he picked up the ball, he wasn't
• 54:27
  Speaker 11: driving forward in the way that he did in prior games.
• 54:30
  Speaker 11: Was the occasion too big for him? I don't think so.
• 54:33
  Speaker 11: He's played at Brussia Doorbmund, He's played at Chelsea and
• 54:37
  Speaker 11: the Premier League, has played in Italy now with a Similan,
• 54:40
  Speaker 11: so he's played in huge games. But there's different expectations
• 54:43
  Speaker 11: when you are the man. Maybe you're not just one
• 54:46
  Speaker 11: of eleven. You are the guy that the US and
• 54:49
  Speaker 11: the nation is looking at to try and galvanize the
• 54:52
  Speaker 11: team and push them forward, both from a leadership standpoint
• 54:55
  Speaker 11: and also just from his technical ability in the final
• 54:58
  Speaker 11: third to make things happen. I think the issue is
• 55:01
  Speaker 11: I think the evolution for this team is to make
• 55:03
  Speaker 11: sure that players who are playing at the US on
• 55:06
  Speaker 11: the US eleven, dominating their club level, are the leaders
• 55:11
  Speaker 11: that other players look to to kind of pull them
• 55:14
  Speaker 11: out of the trenches, to guide them forward. That is
• 55:17
  Speaker 11: what I felt was missing was a level of leadership
• 55:20
  Speaker 11: when things weren't going right, when the game was flowing
• 55:23
  Speaker 11: in the side of Belgium and they were getting momentum.
• 55:26
  Speaker 11: How do you stick in a tackle? How do you
• 55:29
  Speaker 11: change things up on the field. Because the coach can
• 55:32
  Speaker 11: make certain tweaks, but the end of the day, the
• 55:34
  Speaker 11: players have to close the ball down quicker, They have
• 55:36
  Speaker 11: to be crisper and sharper with the ball, They have
• 55:39
  Speaker 11: to move together as a unit. They just look disconnected
• 55:43
  Speaker 11: and technically they just looked inferior.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Former sounder now the voice of the Sounder, Danny Jackson
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: with us here this morning, reacting to last night's four
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: to one loss to Belgium that knocked Team USA out
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: of the World Cup. So does this wipe I mean,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: it was weeks of feeling great about US soccer and
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: looked like we were seeing an improved team that had
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: a chance to go deep into this and then too,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: not just lose in this round, but to lose decisively
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: in this round. Does that strip away all the good
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: that we felt and experienced in the previous weeks.
• 56:22
  Speaker 11: No, I don't think so. I think I said yesterday
• 56:24
  Speaker 11: right after the game, I said two steps forward, one
• 56:27
  Speaker 11: step back. I think maybe it's three steps forward, one
• 56:30
  Speaker 11: step back. On reflection, I look at that first game
• 56:34
  Speaker 11: and think about the weight of the world in the US.
• 56:36
  Speaker 11: They did not come into the Wolfs Cup in good form.
• 56:39
  Speaker 11: They'd not kept a clean sheet, their defense was vulnerable,
• 56:43
  Speaker 11: they weren't scoring goals, they were getting outplayed, and the
• 56:47
  Speaker 11: expectations for the US was, Hey, you know, I think
• 56:50
  Speaker 11: we can get out of the group. I think we
• 56:52
  Speaker 11: can win the first knockout game if we win the group,
• 56:56
  Speaker 11: and then the round of sixteen steals like this is
• 56:58
  Speaker 11: where the team will land. And it ended up that way.
• 57:01
  Speaker 11: But I look back on that first game, I think
• 57:04
  Speaker 11: all the things that the US checked, they withstood the
• 57:08
  Speaker 11: pressure and the expectation, and they played very well. They
• 57:11
  Speaker 11: came out of the blocks flying, They showed a level
• 57:14
  Speaker 11: of youthful energy all across the field. They were technically
• 57:18
  Speaker 11: better than Paraguay. They were dominant in all areas of
• 57:21
  Speaker 11: the field, and they scored four goals and albeit they
• 57:25
  Speaker 11: gave up a goal that they really dominated that game,
• 57:28
  Speaker 11: and I think that set them up very well for
• 57:30
  Speaker 11: the group stage. It set them up well for a
• 57:32
  Speaker 11: really good performance against Bosnia where they went down to
• 57:36
  Speaker 11: ten men of course at Balligan's red card, and they
• 57:38
  Speaker 11: still withstood that pressure and they came together as a
• 57:40
  Speaker 11: team and they scored with ten men off a free
• 57:43
  Speaker 11: kick from tilm And like he did yesterday. So I
• 57:47
  Speaker 11: think there are lots of markers where the US has
• 57:50
  Speaker 11: shown themselves to be advanced in their development as a team.
• 57:56
  Speaker 11: But I think yesterday showed some of those cracks again,
• 58:00
  Speaker 11: some of the noise around the US team before the tournament,
• 58:03
  Speaker 11: which it ran its ugly head. Yesterday from an individual
• 58:06
  Speaker 11: era standpoint, defensively looked a little fragile and weak, and
• 58:10
  Speaker 11: then offensively looked a little limp. And I think that's
• 58:15
  Speaker 11: what will be most disappointing is they had they had
• 58:18
  Speaker 11: played so well, they had done so much, they'd galvanized
• 58:20
  Speaker 11: the nation around this team, and they just fell flat.
• 58:24
  Speaker 11: And that will be the most disappointing thing.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: You've mentioned it a couple of times in our conversation,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: but let me ask you a direct question about the
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Balligan situation, where, if anywhere, was that ball dropped? I mean,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: would you have possibly not played him in this match
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: because of all of the distractions and the controversy that
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: was swirling around it, or was it the right choice
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: to go with your best guys last night and then
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: consequences be damned.
• 58:56
  Speaker 11: I think the control was, you know, control the controllables.
• 59:00
  Speaker 11: This was completely out of his control. I think it
• 59:02
  Speaker 11: was a distraction. It certainly was a distraction. The noise
• 59:06
  Speaker 11: around the team was not about all the positivity in
• 59:09
  Speaker 11: the way they had played. It was suddenly about something
• 59:10
  Speaker 11: completely different. For a young kid like Balligan to have
• 59:14
  Speaker 11: to withstand that global media pressure. Now he has to
• 59:18
  Speaker 11: go back to France in Monica where he plays and
• 59:21
  Speaker 11: probably takes heat, which again was nothing to do with him,
• 59:24
  Speaker 11: but hapter. The responsibility of the coach is to put
• 59:26
  Speaker 11: his best eleven out there. Tactically, Rudy Garcia for Belgium
• 59:30
  Speaker 11: left his big guns out. He left Docu out, de
• 59:33
  Speaker 11: Bruyne and Lukaku and it worked. It worked very well.
• 59:37
  Speaker 11: Pojetina made a choice and I think it was the
• 59:39
  Speaker 11: right choice at the time. He was given a player
• 59:42
  Speaker 11: who was available now for selection, who was his main man,
• 59:45
  Speaker 11: who was the player had scored a number of goals
• 59:48
  Speaker 11: throughout the World Cup so far. So I think his
• 59:51
  Speaker 11: responsibility to his team was to play him. But in reflection,
• 59:56
  Speaker 11: was that a decision that maybe wasn't the one. Should
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 11: he have started on the bench and maybe come off
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 11: the bench and said, hey, we recognized this is an
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 11: unprecedented decision that was made. It was out of our hands.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 11: We recognize that he's gonna start on the bench, and
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 11: then he comes on in the sixtieth minute with a
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 11: huge round of applause from the crowd and off you go.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 11: That definitely could have been an option. But I've think
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 11: the responsibility of the coach if given that player availability,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 11: I think he made the right choice to prove the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 11: best to leven out in the field.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Well, US is out, Mexico had a great showing, but
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: they're out, Canada is out, the host teams are all out.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: As we're down to ten and we'll be down to
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: eight by the end of today. And yet, what more
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: can you say positively about what a great job all
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: three countries did at hosting this event, Because yeah, I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: know the US didn't go as far as we wanted
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: them to, but I as an American couldn't be prouder
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: and happier about the way we stepped up as host
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: for the world's biggest sporting event.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 11: Your thoughts, It was absolutely incredible. I completely agree. I mean,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 11: I think we've all seen tiktoks, instagrams and videos of
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 11: Europeans and South Americans and fans were all over the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 11: world coming in with their color, their pageantry, their noise,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 11: their desire and passion for the game, and it spread
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 11: across the United States, Canada and Mexico. You've seen all people.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 7: Walking into walmarts and targets and even waffle House and
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: just incredible warmth shown by the world and also the.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 11: Reflection of what great people are in this area of
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 11: the world. I think the Americans presented this game and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 11: this Work Cup in an incredibly positive way. I think
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 11: it has been nothing but a success. I think the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 11: US hit the market they needed to from around a sixteen.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 11: I think Canada did maybe the same thing. Mexico had
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 11: an incredible game for the best game of the World
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 11: Cup so far against my team England. And England you
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 11: scraped it through, but that was a memorable game that
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 11: will not be forgotten in a manner, and just the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 11: passion and just the incredible energy in that stadium, and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 11: I think at lumen Field last night it was. It
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 11: showed what this sport does mean to the US public
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 11: and what a successful team can do to galvanize that support.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 11: I mean, it was loud, it was in and out
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 11: of the stadium, and I think the US have put
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 11: on a great show. And hey, listen, we've got Yes,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 11: the host nations are out and that's disappointing, but I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 11: think if you look at the players and the team
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 11: still in it messy to Ambapate, to Harlem, to Harry
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 11: Kane to Spain, there are some incredible games to come. Still.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 11: I think the supporters have shown themselves really well to
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 11: the American public. I mean, think about the Norwegians with
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 11: their Viking rowing to you know, the color of Columbia.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 11: And it's been a fascinating, assassinating and wonderful World Cup.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: How's the Jackson family back home feel about England's chances
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: now to win it all.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 11: I think they're still a little bit tired after staying up.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 11: I think the game ended at four foot thirty am,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 11: but they were. My mother was texting me a four
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 11: thirty simple English way of saying it is few, so
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 11: you know, typical understated English. But listen, we that was
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 11: the game of game to go back to the s
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 11: Techa Stadium, one of the most iconic stadiums in the world,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 11: the place that haunted England for forty years. With the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 11: hand of God and Maradonna's miraculous second goal, we took
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 11: on what fell out the entire English team for what
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 11: it's been. I think the best Will Cup goal ever
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 11: scored that was in that stadium and that has haunted
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 11: England for many years. To go back to that environment,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 11: to play in front of that crowd, that was just sensational.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 11: From the minute that England touched down to the minute
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 11: they walked off that field. It was boisterous. It was
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 11: hostile in some way, but in a good way. And
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 11: I think that's been the positive about this World Cup.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 11: There's been no animosity. It's been a joyful hostility, if
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 11: you can put it that way. But I think the
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 11: English hauld got through that game and I think they'll
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 11: believe now they're going to go and play an incredible
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 11: game against early Harland and the Norwegians that came through Brazil.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 11: They'll play that game on Saturday, but hey, listen, the
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 11: matchup I think works well for them. They know Harland
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 11: for the Premier League. They know the Norwegian team, how
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 11: they play, They match up well with them because it's
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 11: very much like an English style team that they play,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 11: or the style of football. And then of course if
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 11: Messy kind of make it makes it through today, then
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 11: of Courseina potentially wait for England in the semi finals,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 11: so there is a pathway there. I still think France
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 11: will be the team to beat. Whoever beats France will
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 11: win the World Cup. In my opinion, I think the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 11: French are still in good gear. With the attacking prowess
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 11: that they have, they could be a tough team to beat.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 11: But the English have shown that they can dig in
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 11: and they can grind out result.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: When they eaty well.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Disappointing night last night, disappointing day, reacting to it here
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: this morning, but you got a lot of great soccer
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: still ahead of you in this tournament, so enjoy it
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: and thank you very much for your time this morning.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 11: Thanks guys.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: All right, Danny Jackson joining us right here on Chuck
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: and Buck in the morning. Coming up next, ABC's of
• 1:05:41
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  Speaker 2: The most important abcs of the ms of the entire year. Really, yeah,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: some things are going to happen here. Okay, we left
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: off of the latter row. Ahways for overthinking anyone surprise
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: that maybe the OS for organization is OH for OH
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: for thinking this, OH is for odd decision to flip
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: flop Kirby and WU for the next couple of days.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Somebody asked about it on the text line. I did
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: not have an answer for you, so we reached out
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: to somebody that would. Our friend, mutual friend, Ryan Divish
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: did respond to our question about why did they do this?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: And in essence, Ashley, he said, just basically slotting.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 8: He said it's possible.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 10: He said they didn't really the Marriagers didn't explain it
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 10: basically to any of the reporters, and I don't think
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 10: anyone's had a chance to ask yet. But he said
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 10: it could be that Kirby wanted an extra day, or
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 10: it could be slotting after the break. Okay, My question
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 10: is though, I mean, you're gonna have a whole week off, basically,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 10: not a whole week, but four days.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you could really put anyone anywhere after that?
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm done trying to predict how they handle
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: coming out. We all think that a team uses that
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: All Star break to then set their rotation perfectly for
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: going forward, and it never works out that way, right.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, they used to do that. We grew up
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: with that, But in the last five years, I don't
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: know what goes into the decision of who starts. I
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: think maybe it is just who feels the best right now,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: or who did the least amount of drinking over the
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: last four days. I don't know what it is, but
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: it never makes sense, right. So don't think that whoever
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: starts Day one of the second half of the season
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: coming out of the All Star Break would be the
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: Day one starter, Game one starter of a playoff series.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: They just don't do that anymore. So we don't know
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: what their method is, but it won't make sense. I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: can promise you that.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 10: We don't even know if we're going to have five
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 10: people in the rotation or six people or five and
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 10: a half.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 8: We have no clue.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Seven eight, who knows?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 8: Who knows?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Ps four playoffs? And I just pulled off a trade
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: in the last hour. I did, oh yeah, yeah, my
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Spencer Steer, TJ and Tone trade that I threw out
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: there and I said, this is the trade that they're
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: going to make. I just so, I just spent some
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: time during the break just jotting down the roster, okay,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: and what our playoff roster could look and I and
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: I'm including that trade.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: I just want you to just absorb this catcher, cal Rawley,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: and of course we're expecting a better second half from him.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: We have to get a better second half. Naylor at first,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Cole Young now established as damn near an All star. Second,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Colt Emerson getting better theoretically with every day, the more
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: experience that he gets. JP at third, mm hmm. Put
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: a pin in that.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 8: Did you see my eyes going?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: If I have time, I'll circle back to that. A
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Rozarina and left Rodriguez in center. Rayley and Steer are
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: your right fielders now, and can Zone is your full
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: time DH. Okay, then we had to have a bench
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: of Garver, Rayley or Steer. I still have Roeblaze, but
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: you could have Montes. Yeah, and then Donovan being activated,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: who's now coming off our bench now?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 10: And then yeah, is there anyone on that bench that
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 10: you wouldn't feel comfortable going in the game?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: I feel great about Oh yeah, I think we have
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: too many.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that'd be great.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, we got too many guys and
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: we don't even have an extra utility infielder, which every
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: roster feels better about. But when you have Young can
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: play shortstop and second, and Crawford can play shortstop in third,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: and Emerson can play shortstop and third, and Donovan can
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: play second and third, and Steer can even play He's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: played thirteen games at second base and has also played
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: first base this year. You're covered, so you really do
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: get to put just weapons coming off of your bench,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: with the exception of your backup catcher. So you might
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: have one guy too many, and you have the potential
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: to possibly have Montes in here somewhere by the time
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: that the playoffs rule. Now that's if everybody stays. Hell,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: that is one hell of a group right there.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 10: Does it concern you at all that with too many,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 10: because we have dealt with this problem pitching wise, that
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 10: the Mariners would oh overthink how to handle well, all
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 10: of that bench that's possible.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: And then there's also this and I don't mean to
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: keep piling on, but JP doesn't fit. He's not good
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: enough to make that team, right and playing time.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 8: Would rather Domin on the bench, though, I.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: Think I'd rather have Montes. Yeah, I just I mean,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: I've already got shortstop covered, I got a starter, and
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: i got a backup. I mean, they're not going to
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: do it, don't get me wrong. Yeah, and I don't
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: want to keep piling on. But the truth of the
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: matter is, I just just don't think he's that good
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: of a baseball player anymore. All right, Now, let's get
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: to pitching, okay, because you're only going to use four guys.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Actually in a seer in the first series, you're only
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: going to use three. So think about that. Think about
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: the depth that gives you. So Gilbert Miller one, two,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Hancock has pitched well enough to be or three. You
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: have so much flexibility you could say, hey, you know what,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Brian wu is our.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 8: Starter at home, right, That's what I was going to ask.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll use them out of the pen on the road.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: You and then you have George Kirby who you could
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: also potentially do that with, but maybe he's your road
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: guy and Woo's your home guy, and then that would
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: still leave two guys out of your starting six that
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: then moved to the pen. Plus you've talked about adding
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Anderson and Sloan. By then, I just added tj Antone
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: in our trade from the Cincinnati Reds, and you have
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Brashback healthy along with Munyo, Spire, Ferrara, and Bizardo. Are
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: you kidding me?
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 8: Yes, please?
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 10: Can we sign up for that?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: That's fourteen guys you're only gonna keep. You're only gonna
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: have thirteen. So one of those guys, I mean health
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: will take care of some of this. We're not gonna
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: get We're not going to reach the playoffs completely healthy.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: To get the playoffs first, but we're not gonna reach
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: the playoffs completely healthy. But one of those guys, even
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: if they were all completely healthy, does not make your
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: postseason roster. It would probably be Slowan, probably be the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: young kid. But they have every intention of having Sloan
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: and Anderson part of this postseason roster should they get there.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: You can't match up with that, No, no team can
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: match up with that. Are you kidding me?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 8: That's that would be a dream come true right there.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Your bullpen, Munyos, Brash, Spire, Farrare, Bizardo, Kate Anderson, Ryan Sloan,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: tj Antone, and then Wu and Castillo. Yeah, that's your bullpen.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: And then a three and a five game series you
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: might just need three of them. You could even throw
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: another guy in there. Actually, in a five game series,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: you'd still need the four. But nonetheless, how loaded is that?
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: How loaded is that? On both sides? The offense looks
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: loaded too. And I trust that we're going to play
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: better in the second in the second half. So here
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: we'll wrap up the ABC's because we are at Q.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: That's right, two rounds of OPQ today. Q is for
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: quote me, Okay, if this is our roster, ay right
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: here in my hot little hand, with that much pitching,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: that much pitching depth, that much offensive depth, that much
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: defensive versatility, that much speed power combo, if that's our
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: roster at the start of the playoffs, we will win
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: the World Series.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 8: I gotta hold on, I gotta grab this.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Quote it, quote me, I'm pulling it. If that is,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: are you kidding me?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 9: Who?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: The Dodgers can't match up with that pitching wise, there's
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: no way. I mean, offensively, we can't match up to them, right,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: But but pitching wins in the playoffs, Yep. They don't
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: have the pitching to go toe to toe with us
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: starter and reliever. If that's our group.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 10: Which can I just say, I'm having probably the adverse
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 10: reaction that I sh be having to this, because they
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 10: should be like, oh, hell yeah, let's go. All I
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 10: keep thinking is all right, Please don't blow this, because
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 10: look at what we could have. Just come out and
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 10: play better baseball so we can get there.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 8: Please, that's all I want.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, I see what you're saying. I thought you
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: were like, don't blow the I don't know how you
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: can even blow this roster.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 8: No you can't. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 10: Don't blow it to get there, because that if that
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 10: is the possibility, if that's what we can work with
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 10: in the playoffs.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: We're making the play Yeah, so let's go. I mean
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: that is potentially, I mean I don't know if I've
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: ever seen that much pitching depth on a team. Yeah,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: getting ready for the playoffs to be able to add
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: two of your minor league phenoms, possibly a trade piece,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: and have your six man rotation suddenly become a four
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: man rotation, so you add two more pieces to the bullpen.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Now we have to have a guy that knows how
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: to manage that, which I'm not sure we do, right,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: But you want to talk about bringing weapons you I
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: want to talk about never letting somebody up for air.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: How do you score runs if you play the matchups
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: off of this.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 10: And think of the game simulations. Dan can get in
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 10: between then and now, between now and then a lot.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Well, somebody needs to work with him, that's for sure,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: mister Miagi. Somebody let's learn balance Daniel Son. All right,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's pretty exciting to me. I just
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: did that little exercise in the break, and I'm like,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: that is one loaded roster right there.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah, are you gonna run that one by Ryan Heally?
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe?
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know I can do that briefly. Yeah, true, maybe,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, if you're adding just a couple sensible pieces,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: not some big blockbuster trade couple sensible pieces, shore up
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: your weakness against left handers to some degree. Get Donovan
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: back returns to a super utility role. Montes seems to
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: be on the verge of making the major league squad,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Anderson and Sloan are going to have spots. It sounds
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: like on the postseason roster should we get there, Brash
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: is gonna get healthier. Wow, that's exciting.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: That is just.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Exciting, very all right. Coming up next more on Shane Wright.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: I don't have the answer for where he's going to go,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: but it does sound like he's going to go. Sports
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• 1:16:46
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• 1:16:48
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• 1:16:51
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• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: They belong to former Mariner Ryan Healey, who joins us
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: with his insight into this Mariners baseball season. Rot Now,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: how are you is there?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: I'm doing wonderful. How are you today?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: I am all right? How was your Fourth of July? Did
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: you invite polar over? We haven't heard from your friend
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Kevin Pollar in a while. You guys hang out during
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Fourth of July at all?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: We did it this year. We're actually in Tennessee right now.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: We've been here for gosh feels like three years with
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: two toddlers. But yeah, we got here last Wednesday. It's
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: been a journey, but we actually got to spend the
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: fourth of July on a lake on a boat, and
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: my kids could have been happier.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: What is in Tennessee that you need to see? You're
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: a West Coast guy?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: I am West Coast guys. So I actually had to
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: get my second round of surgery for my mouth. I
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: have an old ground ball baseball injury from twenty fifteen,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: so I've had eighteeth pulled from my head since last November.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: I'm in the process of getting so I got fourteenth
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: polled last Thursday. I got three implants put in. I
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: got some temporary teeth. And if we get it real
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: frisky on this car all I might pull out the
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: bottom to show you how I fit in in in
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: the south all of a sudden with no seat in
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: the bottom.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know it was that complex. I've just
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: figured No. I had an old, you know, college buddy
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: that lives down here and we come stay at his
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: mansion every summer. I did. I felt like I pride
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: now into your your personal stuff here.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: Hockey, hockey.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I'm an open book
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: with with all my stuff. It's been a journey, but
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: we were actually in East Tennessee and the greats in
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: the Smoky Mountains for a couple of days. My kid's
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: been loving it. Uh So I just asked my wife
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: to kindly take them to the park while I do
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: a little bit of work and then we can get
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: back to the festivity.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Very good, Very good. All right, Well, those new Choppers
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: will help you in your burgeoning TV career here. They're
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: gonna want they're gonna want you to have those new Choppers.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, let's uh, let's get into it a
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: little bit here. This team's obviously playing some better baseball
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: here in its last two series. They've won five of
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: their last The bats have come alive for the most part,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: and the pitching has been absolutely dominant here over the
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: last few games. What if anything stands out most to
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: you as to why we're having success here on the
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: baseball field.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Again, I felt like the Mariners ran into two teams
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: that they were supposed to handle business on and for
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: the first time in a little bit, I would say
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: the first time the summer June. There was a lot
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: of teams that the Mariners came across that they should
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: have handled and did it, but this was a week
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: that they really needed to take care of business. It
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: was weird having the date off in the middle of
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: the Angels series, but did a really nice job. The
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: offense did just enough, showed up big in a couple
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: of games. But obviously the storyline here is the starting
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: pitchers dealing with the uncertainty, the ebbs and flows of it.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: Will there be a piggyback, will there be a six
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: man rotation. There's a lot of things that are still circulating.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: I hope that you know, this week allows them to
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: figure that out. Going to break, everyone can get their rest,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: and then maybe we have a more concrete idea what
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: this pitching staff's going to do when the second half begins.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you the one thing that stood out
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: to me, Chuck, was the response after a tremendous outing
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: on Friday when they came across stilan Cus, who was
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: just lights out. You're run into pitchers like that, But
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: they could have let that defined the entire weekend. They
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: came back responded really loud. On the fourth of July
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, and then really finished those series off strong
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: on Sunday. That was really nice to see.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: You know, It's weird because you talk about like making
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: pitching adjustments rotation adjustments usually when you're struggling, how do
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: you fix it? And yet it can be just as
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: big a problem when you're going well. Like you would
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: want Logan Gilbert to pitch every fifth time the way
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: he's going, or every sixth game, if you will, But
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: in a five man rotation, you don't want to limit
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: how often you're pitching a guy pitching that well. Same
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: with Emerson Hancock. And yet they've had a hard time
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to do this going forward.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: We're a week away from the All Star break. How
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: do you come out of the gates? I mean I
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: ask a version of this to you every single week
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: when we have you on, But how do you come
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: out of the gate with this rotation, especially now that
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: it's really clicking again.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: I think that's the million dollar question right now. To
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: talk in the fact that the Mariners are almost they
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: were both combating themselves in the media what the answers
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: they're giving, and then they're not lining up with the
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: action that they're taking. It's almost like they can't figure
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: out what direction they want to go. And look, I
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: understand it's it's a conundrum, and they've what's been clear
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: to me, I guess what I can say, it's been
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: clear to me if the piggyback is not the direction
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: they want to go, because they've now skipped.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: Twice the six man.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: We saw what that looked like with the one really
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: long road trip, but was that just an anomaly because
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: of how many games were played and that's that in
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: that long stretch.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: Maybe they want to go back to that and give
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: it a shot. I mean, they're going to have.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: The All Star break and then they're going to come
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: back and have it looks like six straight so maybe
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: they run the six men out there again, they have
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: a day off. It just looks like this schedule lines
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: up where there's quite a few off days kind of
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: through August, which I think will help.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: But also we.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Had the trade deadline coming up, so how are they
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: planning on navigating this Because if they are going to
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: move one of the starters, they want to make sure
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: they're still stretched out and not you know, selling a
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: reliever at that point. And I think carry a Poto
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: gave away a little bit of as cards thereof it
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: might be a buyer to buy or market with teams
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: out there that need specific pieces, and we know the
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Maritors have a surplus of one specific thing that a
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: lot of teams could use.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: And yet they've stood firm that we don't really want
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: a trade starting pitching because they live in this constant
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: fear that you the moment you get rid of some
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: you're gonna need it. That's kind of the way they operate. Plus,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: you've got Anderson and Sloan coming too, and.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: That's that's the eighth in the hole right now that
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think will be communicated. And I'm really excited
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: to see Anderson and Sloan compete in the Futures Game.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: I had a chance to do that in twenty sixteen.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: What an unbelievable expance aperience. I saw the clip actually
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: where the manager in DOAA was telling both of them.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: Talked about the statistics of that game.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: I think he said eighty eight percent of participants in
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: the Futures Game play in the major leagues, and then
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: twenty two percent of that eighty eight percent end up
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: being Major League All Stars.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: So it's a massive deal.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: To go play in the futures Game, and the fact
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: that those two young arms get that type of exposure
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: well deserved. But also it's be nice to see how
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: they compete on that stage.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Ryan Heally is with US Joints every Tuesday to talk
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: some Mariners baseball. Can you explain why Brian wu so
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: good at home because he's starting tonight on the road
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: and then he can't pitch well on the road, or
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: it hasn't pitched he usually has that one big blow
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: up inning. I mean, is it just purely psychological? It's
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: hard for me to believe that his stuff is better
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: at home than it is on the road.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's either.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: And I was listening to the broadcast the last time
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: that we'll pitch at home, and you heard Ryan rolland
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: Smith talk about the breaking ball percentage is slightly different
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: home versus the road. But I don't think that makes
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: a ton of difference. And the only answer that we
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: all have for certain is no one knows what it is.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: And I think the reason why, though, is because Brian
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Will doesn't know either. Yeah, I don't think he has
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: a clear cut answer of this is what I'm doing
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: different here versus there, and it can't be you know,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: it could be something to do with his routine. And
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: then that makes me think, Okay, I'm sure the Mariners
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: have offered everything they can.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, crying out loud.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: I think Monialois travels with a cat to make sure
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: that he is more comfortable and he will to goes.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: So it's not like the team hasn't been willing to
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: assist to make sure that Brian Wu has the same
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: things that he has at hauled that he does on
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: the road. And I guess knowing Wu a little bit
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: and seeing how he competes, this might be a statement
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: game for him tonight, Like he might come out here
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: and he might throw seven or eight really strong innings
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: just absolutely shut down this Marlins team and have put
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: some of this conversations behind him.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: As he steps in the second half.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, he's so frustrated right now that
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: if he struggles again, he might be completely open to
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: cat therapy. I think he might even consider it.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: I think we can see angry fastballs from him tonight
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: in the first inning, So look out for like the
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: ninety seven ninety eight in the first he's gonna look
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: to set the tone.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: Ryan Healy our guest here on Chuck and Buck in
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: the Morning. And so yes, Brian wu getting the start
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: tonight against the Marlins. And we are closing in on
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: the All Star break. Only one guy. I think there'll
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: be another one or two added once all the injuries
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: take place. But speak to how well Randy a rose
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: Arena has played and earned that All Star bid. And
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: if you could add one other guy off of this
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: roster that you feel should have been an All Star,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: I am only going to give you one. Give me
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: one other guy that should be going to Philadelphia Tuesday.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: I can only give you one.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really I'm stress.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: But you have to give me at least one.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: Two Okay, yeah, I'd say Emerson Hancock.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I like that the original question. Randy.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: He's been the most consistent player on this team all
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: season long. Offensively, he's been lights out. When you look
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: at Randy as a whole, I think he's one of
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: the most interesting players to watch in Major League Baseball.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: From a guy that will kind of dog it after
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: your ball in that field to lose both challenges in
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: the very first inning of a game and then also
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: win you the game within the first half. Like it's
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: just it's a roller coaster of emotions watching Randy Rose
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: Arena and I'm here for it, really happy for him
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: to get the success, and also the timing he's going
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: into a free agent year. I think that'll bode really
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: well for him on the open market when he can
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: maximize his value. The one guy All Star wise that
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: I would love to have seen, I think you can
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: throw canzone. He can throw a handcock in there. But
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: I'm upset that Cole Young didn't get a better look
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: seeing Travis Bizana get the nod, and it shows me
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: that baseball is has been going the direction of notoriety,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: growing the game, getting young players the exposure on these stage.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: But why does a player like Cole Young not deserve
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: to be in this All Star Game with how well
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: he's played defensively, with how clutch he's been offensively runners
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: in scoring position, And then why does a guy like
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Travis Bozona get the not over him when he has
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: less it bats way, less value defensively war overall, that's
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: one thing, and it's not a knock on Bizana. It's
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: it's just a it's a praise for how good Young
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: has been, and I would love to see him get
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: the note of riding here.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: You know what's really odd about it is that the
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: players voted in Bazana, because I would think most of
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: them would think like you would, like, No, I'm not
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: going to give rookies who've only been around a month.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: They're not getting my vote. I'm gonna go ahead and
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: vote for the guy that's played every single day this year,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: plays good defense and appreciates all the little things. But
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: it's the players who voted in Bizana, of all people.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: It's interesting, and I haven't seen a ton of Bazana,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: but when I have seen him defensively, he doesn't look
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: comfortable at second base. It looks a little clunky offensively.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a tremendous Major leaguer,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: and our has been. Maybe Cole Young just gets overshadowed
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: in that Mariner star studded lineup and roster of pitching
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: staff and such. He gets overlooked a little bit. But
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: if anyone's watching the Mariners closely this season, they know
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: how valuable Randy has been. And then also Coley Young
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: is Yeah, no.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: Doubt let's talk about Randy a little bit, because I
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: want to know, from your perspective, how does a guy
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: go over in a clubhouse like Randy, somebody that does
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: make those mistakes that seem like his head's either not
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: in the game on occasion, or maybe he's even acting
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: selfishly on occasion, and yet he does play well and
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: he does come through for you quite a bit, maybe
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: more so than anybody this season. How does a player,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you had all sorts of different
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: characters that you had to play with that weren't necessarily
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: rowing at all times in the same direction with the
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: rest of the team. How does a clubhouse tend to
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: handle a guy like that?
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: First and foremost you and Brason, because he's your brother,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: he's on your teams and your roster, and you know
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: that when he is happy, that's how the player is happy.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: He's gonna succeed and play well for you. It's gonna
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: help you win. So like that's rule number one. Rule
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: number two is, yeah, there's probably some frustration, mostly because
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: that type of player is just naturally more gifted than
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: a guy like me. And you know, it's not so
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: much the work ethic that I would I would complain
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: about It's like I can't do the things that you
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: do and I'm trying everything, and I watch what you
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: do and you are able to go out there in
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: the game and succeed and just slip the switch, Like,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: how do I bottle that up and just apply some
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: of that to my game.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: So there's probably some of that which.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Could be labeled as jealousy or envy, which I don't
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: think is a positive trait to have in life in general.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: But we're all humans. Would probably process that a little bit.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: And I've been like that.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: I've played with guys that don't touch a bat or
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: ball till they show up to spring training, and then
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: they go out there and they bang twenty five home
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: runs in the regular season, and I'm like, I don't
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: get it. There's guys that are just naturally gifted more
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: than others. But I think when you look at the
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: body of work and the value that Randy brings to
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: this team, it's hard to prioritize those type emotions of
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: envy jealousy over like I just want this guy to
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: roll for us because he's on our team, and probably
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: don't like him when he's on the opposing team. But
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: for right now, he's our brother, and let's make sure
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: he's in the best headspace and most comfortable to do
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: what he needs to do.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: If there's a hole on this team. We're four weeks
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: away from the trading deadline, and I think we're going
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: to get pretty serious about what roster decisions are going
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: to be made going forward, including the starting rotation. But
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: if there's a hole on this team that you'd like
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: to see addressed before the trading deadline, what would that be.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: I think everyone would like to see another arm in
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: the bullpen, someone that can come in and really be
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: a stopper. I don't know if it needs to be
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: in a role as Chapman where it's a legitimate closer
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: like that. I know there's a lot of trust in
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: Munos and hasn't had the best first half, but maybe
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: he's primed for a comeback in the second half. And
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: then obviously a right hinded bat someone that can have
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: some versatility. The challenge, as you know, Chuck, is there's
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: not a ton on the market out there that fit
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: that mold. Hence why I think Jerry Depoto's speaking about
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: buyer to buy er market of maybe swapping big league
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: value for big league value to help bolster the team's needs.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: It's nice to see Canzone getting some more consistent bats
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: against left handed pitching. He deserves that, He's earned that,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: And I think the bigger piece for me offensively is
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: I want to see what Brendan Donovan looks like when
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: he comes back. What holes does he feel personally, because
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: maybe this team doesn't have to go outside and bring
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: in new bodies. Maybe they have the right components, they
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: just haven't been healthy, and I guess that's a question
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: we won't have answered until the second half starts.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: They also have a prospect that's at twenty five home
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: runs already this season that might be pushing his way
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: into being considered on this roster as well. So I'm
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: want to run down I did this in our last hour.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: This is the potential ryan for our pitching staff in
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. So you go to a four man rotation.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: I mean you could go Gilbert Miller, Hancock and then
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: you could literally go Kirby on the road and Woo
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: at home. You could get that specific if you wanted to. Uh.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: The other one goes to the pen with Castillo, and
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: then you add Anderson and Sloan potentially to the bullpen.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: And then if you added another piece at the trading
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: deadline and you got Brash back Healthy and Munyo, Spire,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: Farrer and Bizardo. Let me just run through that group
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: that could be our pitching staff for the start of
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: the playoffs Gilbert Miller, Kirby, Hancock, Castillo, Wu Sloan, Anderson, Bizardo, Ferrer, Spirea,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: Brash Munios and then also an addition that you could
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: make it the trading deadline. I mean that pitching wins
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: a World Series.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: Ryan, I agree with you.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: There's no argument that that that thirteen man staff right
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: there can take this program, this organization to places that
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: they've never been before. And I think what that does
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: for this team as well as that it removes a
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: lot of pressure, you know, from the offense, because this
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: has been a home run heavy.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: Team relying on that.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: But quite frankly, if if the pitching staf's not giving
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: up runs, then you know, I think there's a there's
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: a feeling offensively that even if you haven't gotten something
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: going that it just takes one run. It takes one
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: run to win that ballgame that day, because you see
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: how the guys are rolling. The bigger piece chucked at
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: all all touched on for that because the pitching staff's tremendous.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: I think it has more to do with what do
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: the Mariners do defensively in the second half? How are
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: players able to solidify into positions? As JP is still
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: working through some kinks to third base, so do him
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: and Brendan Donovan with time over there? It seems like
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: Colt Emerson is really anchored down shortstop and he looks good.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: He's made some tremendous plays. I think it's more defensively,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: how can this team take themselves to the next level
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: so that maybe the offense doesn't feel the pressure when
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: the playoffs comes around, because we know what the pitching
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: stats capable of. So I would challenge the defense to
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: say that's going to be the Achilles Heels. So if
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: the World Series win or.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: Not, Ryan Heally is with us. Last thing that I
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: will ask you here today, the draft is this weekend.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to ask any questions about draft picks.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: I just want to know what Ryan Healey's experience with
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: the draft was. Third round selection, what twenty thirteen you
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: were taken was that a good day, good experience, or
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: for some people that's a rough one because you're waiting
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: and waiting, you thought you should have gone higher, you
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: don't know where you're gonna go. And then some people
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: just ignore it entirely and then find out when they
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: come home from you know, fishing, where they got drafted
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: that day. What was that experience like for you personally.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: I'll touch on the first thing you said.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what the Mariners do in the
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: draft because if it's how great they've been with their
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: scouting and they're developing and such, so I'm excited for that.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: My own personal story wasn't super exciting. It was day
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: two of the draft pretty early on. Fortunate for me,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: just got a call from the A scout offered me
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: a X amount of money for that slot, and I'm like, yeah,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: please get me off the board. I did think there
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: was a chance I could have snuck into Day one.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: I had a back injury that I was kind of nursing,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: so I think that hurt my stock a little bit.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: But it's not as much communication as you would expect.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: I was at home with my family and we were
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: just watching and I think there was more frustration watching
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: certain names go in day one that I played against
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: a lot in college, summer ball, high school, that I
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: knew I was better than. And I guess once my
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: name was called, it was my time to go prove
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: some people wrong and improve myself right. So it was
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: It's pretty anti climatic, but it was a definitely a
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: d I want never forget.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, would you like to go through the process all
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: over again with your new teeth? Do you think that
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: would help your draft stock?
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think so.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: Wrong wrong sport for that, and maybe fels hockey would
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: boost my draft stock for baseball.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: They're like, we don't care.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: Man, Well you're pretty much we're taking number one on
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: the board in the Seattle Media draft. Uh this past offseason,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: I mean you were added to the family now, so
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: think about it that way.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm in the I'm in the farm system
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: right now, kind of getting developed by kJ R.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you've already gotten a taste
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: of the bigs. So yeah, you were just kind of
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: you're like John ol. Yeah, yeah, I really am. You're welcome.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 8: It's really fun to see grown.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: You are.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did it didn't fit that well.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: We won't talk about the wrinkles in it, but but
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: it is seersucker.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: It's kind of supposed to be wrinkled, I think.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: But I would say the same thing.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: All I did was sleep in it. It's no big deal.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: Man can't wear pajamas to work without being commented on,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: what's the deal?
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, come on, what's what kind of society are we living?
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: That's right, exactly, Well, have fun in Tennessee shirts. Yeah,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: you're right, you know what, that's funny because that's why
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: I wore this today. Like all I wear out are
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: teap black T shirts, and I'm like, well, I'm gonna
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: change it up a little bit here today, wear something different.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: And then you comment on it, Well, you have fun
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: in Nashville. Good luck with all the rednecks and the whatnot.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: And we'll talk to you real soon, all right, can't wait?
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: All right? Ryan Healey joining us later He's going to
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: go to Dollywood, but for right now, just joining us
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: to talk some Mariners baseball here. Jackson Feltz will be
• 1:37:54
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  Speaker 9: Richard speeding out of the air freeze. It's got to
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  Speaker 9: get there and deal with it.
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  Speaker 12: He takes it down off the chest to Katal knocks
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 12: it away, Tim Reim can't block it, and a Lass
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 12: video review says this is a foul from behind on Raim.
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  Speaker 12: It is a disastrous Thord goal to conceive to Belgium.
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• 1:38:28
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• 1:38:31
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• 1:38:47
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• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: a pretty powerful one. Jackson Felts now joins us here
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  Speaker 2: on Chuck and Buck in the Mornings. How are you
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, Chuck?
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  Speaker 6: I'm good.
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  Speaker 5: I'm actually showing up for the interview. Unlike the Nationals yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, excited to show up for work? Huh? How about that?
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  Speaker 6: What a concept showing up to do your job?
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  Speaker 2: That was a disaster. How can you put this unto words?
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  Speaker 11: So?
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  Speaker 2: What went so terribly wrong for this team?
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  Speaker 5: They didn't show up? They just they played uninspired. They
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  Speaker 5: played like almost I hate to use the words like
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  Speaker 5: they just didn't care. But clearly the moment was too big.
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  Speaker 5: You had individual mistakes across the board. I can't tell
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  Speaker 5: you one player who had a good performance in that game.
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  Speaker 5: And frankly, I mean, I think you just got to
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  Speaker 5: look to the individuals. And I don't know how much
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  Speaker 5: I'm really including even the coach, Maricio Pochettino in this equation,
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  Speaker 5: because he shouldn't have to motivate players for a World
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  Speaker 5: Cup Round of sixteen game in front of sixty five
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  Speaker 5: thousand of your stars and stripes wearing fans. The player
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  Speaker 5: were not up for it, and it's I mean, it's
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  Speaker 5: a sad day to be an American sports fan because
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  Speaker 5: the team simply was not ready to play the biggest
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  Speaker 5: game of their lives.
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  Speaker 2: Well, then that to me does kind of point to
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  Speaker 2: the coach. I mean, one or two guys don't show up.
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  Speaker 2: Let's blame those one or two guys when the whole
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  Speaker 2: collective seems flat and uninspired and poorly executing. And let's
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: face it that I also thought, Jackson, you know a
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  Speaker 2: lot more about this than I do. I thought they
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  Speaker 2: were out of position for the first twenty two minutes
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  Speaker 2: of the match. They were just poorly positioned defensively as well.
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe a big hammer does have to come
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  Speaker 2: down on the head coach's head.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's it's funny, right because you look
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: at the different avenues in which Mauricio Pochettino affects this
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  Speaker 5: team tactically. They were just never able to even get
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  Speaker 5: out and play a strategic game in which they had
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  Speaker 5: likely planned to play. And I think a lot of
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  Speaker 5: that is is just the lack of effort, lack of energy,
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  Speaker 5: lack of running you saw from the team that couldn't
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  Speaker 5: have that could not have been part of the game
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  Speaker 5: plan for them to just give that lack of effort.
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  Speaker 5: And then you look at just you know, the inspirational
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  Speaker 5: part of it, right, I said the word uninspired, and
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  Speaker 5: I know that. You know, we see so many movies,
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  Speaker 5: right and you know, you think of Friday night lights
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  Speaker 5: and the pregame speeches, the halftime speeches, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: the raw, raw what a coach can do for a team,
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  Speaker 5: and maybe there's something to that. I would say that
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  Speaker 5: it's the World Cup, it's a knockout round game. It's
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  Speaker 5: in your home country. If you have to give a
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  Speaker 5: rousing speech to a group of twenty six men who
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  Speaker 5: are about to take the field in Seattle, in front
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  Speaker 5: of all of those people, in this moment with revenge
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  Speaker 5: on the line against a Belgian teine that beat the
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  Speaker 5: US twelve years ago in the exact same amount, if
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  Speaker 5: you have to give up and give a big speech
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  Speaker 5: to rally your guys, then I'm already gonna be criticizing
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  Speaker 5: the mental fortitude of those guys. You shouldn't need your
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  Speaker 5: coach to give a rousing speech. You should be up
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  Speaker 5: for that game, and they simply weren't. So I'm not
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  Speaker 5: putt in that part on Mauricio Pochattino.
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  Speaker 2: What about the belt Baligan distraction, That's another thing I'm
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  Speaker 2: hearing this. I have no doubt that it was a distraction,
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  Speaker 2: but there's no way that it could have been the
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  Speaker 2: cause for you to play this poorly.
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  Speaker 5: Right, No, yeah, exactly, shuck, Like listen, it very much
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  Speaker 5: was some part of a distraction because Baligan was a
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  Speaker 5: shell of himself. He also was part of that crew
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  Speaker 5: who didn't show up. He was invisible. Does the game
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  Speaker 5: go differently with Ricardo Peppi and there forward. Maybe I
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  Speaker 5: don't think so, because you're right, the defense was all
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  Speaker 5: out of whack and the ball watching and the lack
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  Speaker 5: of effort and the lack of running and so many moments,
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  Speaker 5: Tim the Charlotte defender who plays for the national team
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  Speaker 5: was just horrific. Matt Freeze goalkeeper horrific, who plays for
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  Speaker 5: New York City and MLS. I don't think the Baaligin
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  Speaker 5: situation has anything to do with those guys not being mentally.
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  Speaker 6: Ready for this game.
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  Speaker 5: But the the for the offense, for the way Balligan
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 5: played and didn't wasn't a big part of their attacks
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  Speaker 5: at all when they got going.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that it probably.
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  Speaker 5: Did serve as a little bit, even just a tiny
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  Speaker 5: bit of a distraction. And you know, God, you wonder
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  Speaker 5: if if our president didn't get involved, if things would
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  Speaker 5: have gone differently.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I look at the.
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  Speaker 5: Situation being more of of mistakes on the defensive end,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: over and over and over, and at the end of
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  Speaker 5: the day, that's what cost this team, uh all four
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  Speaker 5: of their goals.
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  Speaker 2: Christian Polisic had a chance for like a legacy defining
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  Speaker 2: night last night, and boy, he defined his legacy. He
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  Speaker 2: was invisible, like that, can't be our best player on
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  Speaker 2: our in our country, right.
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  Speaker 5: Biggest game in the biggest tournament of his life, and
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 5: he's supposedly Captain America, you're star player, and he just shrunk.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think Alexi Lallas said it really well,
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  Speaker 5: picked the worst day to have.
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  Speaker 6: The worst game of his life. And you know the injury.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, okay, fine, but overall, you're right, he was
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  Speaker 5: just invisible.
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  Speaker 6: And it's his movement.
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  Speaker 5: I for a while, I just decided to watch the
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  Speaker 5: way he was moving around players and so much of
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: the time it's not moving at all, it's walking around.
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  Speaker 5: It's you know, hero ball, all right, who's gonna step up,
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  Speaker 5: Who's gonna do something with the ball at their feet.
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  Speaker 5: You look at the build ups and the shots for
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 5: the United States, and every single one of their shots
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  Speaker 5: that they took towards goal didn't come with more than
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 5: one pass beforehand.
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  Speaker 6: And they played hero ball. They were waiting for guys.
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  Speaker 5: To just you know, have the magical moment and didn't
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 5: try to create things through pass. And well, that's where
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 5: Christian Polistic can show up, and that's where he can
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 5: be a star. He wasn't part of that movement. He
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 5: wasn't part of those build ups. And in the game
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 5: where we needed him more than anybody, he was the
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  Speaker 5: obvious player to watch. We didn't watch him because he
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 5: wasn't there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't feel like he was there. Didn't feel like
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  Speaker 2: he was involved at all. Couldn't get a clean shot
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  Speaker 2: the entire match, didn't even really help others get clean
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: shots throughout the entire match, it was It was weird
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  Speaker 2: to watch. Is there a chance that Belgium's just a
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: bad matchup for the US?
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 6: Maybe a little. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Belgium played better than they had the entire tournament.
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  Speaker 5: I will give them that. And you got to give
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 5: credit to Rudy Garcia, their head coach. He made some
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 5: massive moves before the game. He benched three of their
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: key players, I mean Romelo Lukaku there forward, he was
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 5: already playing off the bench. That wasn't a surprise, but
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 5: he put Kevin de Bruyne on the bench, one of
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: their star best players attacking wise, their kind of magician
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: who pulls the strings through the midfield.
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  Speaker 6: He started him on the bench.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 5: He started another one of their fast, really talented wingers
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  Speaker 5: on the bench as well.
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  Speaker 6: Very strange decisions.
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  Speaker 5: But he knew his squad, he knew exactly the way
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  Speaker 5: he wanted to come out and left those guys for potentially,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 5: you know, big impacts off the bench that he ended
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 5: up not even needing. But the guys who he started,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 5: you know, he knew his team, he knew exactly the
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 5: makeup and mentality of what.
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  Speaker 6: It would do benching those guys.
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  Speaker 5: And starting some other guys who wanted to kind of
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: really you know, prove that they deserved more minutes.
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  Speaker 6: It worked. So credit to Belgium.
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  Speaker 5: They played extremely well, and you know, I'm not going
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 5: to give him an enormous shot against Spain in the
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 5: quarterfinals on Friday, but I think that they definitely are
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  Speaker 5: making people kind of second guests that are their picks
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  Speaker 2: Well, it felt like up until yesterday of five o'clock,
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  Speaker 2: like the US US Soccer, the growth of love for
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: US soccer, the way they played, the way we've hosted,
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  Speaker 2: felt like we were getting like an A plus grade
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: up until five o'clock yesterday, And I wonder how far
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: that letter grade fell for you from an A plus
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: to what by the end of the game.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's right.
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  Speaker 5: It kind of takes me back to you know, elementary
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 5: school when you get you know, three a's, I guess
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  Speaker 5: four a's in this case, maybe three a's and a
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 5: B plus and then uh, and then you get the F.
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  Speaker 5: And how much does that F bring your bring your
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 5: total grade down? It brings it down a fair bit
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: for me, Chuck, I mean for me, like I'm on
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: this tournament now, you still look at it as like,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: you know, two steps forward, one step back, I think
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 5: is what Danny Jackson said, and he's spot on.
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  Speaker 6: But but you know, so you do.
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  Speaker 5: You passed the class, you know you you you met expectations.
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  Speaker 5: You probably finished with a B grade total. But god,
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 5: the fact that the F comes in the last class,
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  Speaker 5: the fact that the F comes in the final assignment
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 5: and leaves you with just the worst taste in your
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 5: mouth possible. That's that's where uh my mind is gonna
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  Speaker 5: be at for quite a long time.
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  Speaker 2: A man, Well, thank you for joining us. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: So I got a lot of good soccer to watch,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: still got a fun tournament, But certainly I crash and
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: burn last night, no question about it.
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  Speaker 5: I got Argentina down one nothing to Egypt on my
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  Speaker 5: TV right now, MESSI had a penalty kick saved, great action,
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  Speaker 5: So soccer goes on.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, no doubt. All right, man, thank you, appreciate you.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks, Juck, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Jackson Felts joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
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  Speaker 10: Sounded more upbeat than I thought he would. Thought he
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  Speaker 10: might be more deflated. But I don't think he had
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  Speaker 10: that high of hopes for Team USA.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think his anger fueled him.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's fair.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, we do have Egypt leading Argentina right
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