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How Advanced Analytics Could Impact Ryan Day's Decision-Making · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Friday, September twentieth, I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, tom Or. The Marshall Game is in one day,
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Speaker 1: the game against Michigan in seventy one days. Can be
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Speaker 1: talking a little bit about that Marshall Game and some
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Speaker 1: other stuff going around around the Ohio State football programmer today,
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Speaker 1: and we're doing it with help from interviews with Ohio
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Speaker 1: State head coach Ryan Day and everyone's favorite interview subject
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Speaker 1: on this year's team, cornerback at Denzel Burke. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: start with Brian Day. This is a question I had
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Speaker 1: for me. He talked at his press conference on Tuesday
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Speaker 1: about the fact that they had hired an analytics company
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Speaker 1: to provide just data to help facilitate some decision making
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Speaker 1: around the team. So Wednesday, after practice, I got a
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Speaker 1: chance to ask him, what kind of information are you
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Speaker 1: getting from the company and has the feedback they've been
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Speaker 1: giving you on those types of decisions been more aggressive
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Speaker 1: than you typically might be, a little more conservative than
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Speaker 1: you typically might be. You're kind of about in line
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Speaker 1: with how you've typically handled these situations in the past.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's pretty much on par with where we've
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Speaker 2: been in and I've you know, got some pretty good
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Speaker 2: feedback on you know things last year that you know,
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Speaker 2: I felt like we were right where we needed to
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Speaker 2: be and got some really good feedback from them on that,
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Speaker 2: so that was good. But yeah, I would say, you know,
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Speaker 2: with the two minute warning, that certainly has changed a
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Speaker 2: little bit. So I thought it'd be a good idea,
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Speaker 2: you know, just to have the weekly reports of what's
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Speaker 2: going on in the NFL, what's gone on in college,
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Speaker 2: and you know, have weekly meetings about you know, what's
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Speaker 2: going on out there, and then we have our charts
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Speaker 2: that are playing and that type of thing. So there's
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Speaker 2: a lot that comes with it because it is you know,
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Speaker 2: fourth down, but it's also you know when to use timeouts,
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Speaker 2: it's you know when to go for two, it's you
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Speaker 2: know all those types of things, and you know, there's
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Speaker 2: a lot that goes with that. So, uh, it's been great.
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Speaker 2: It's just that other you know, resource for me to
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Speaker 2: just kind of bounce ideas off of and and you know,
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Speaker 2: get some information from and and then I share it
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Speaker 2: with you know, some of the guys on the staff
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Speaker 2: as well, so so we're prepared for different situations because
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Speaker 2: just when you think you know you've seen them all,
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Speaker 2: here come something new.
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Speaker 1: There are plenty of programs around the nation that will
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Speaker 1: bring in dozens of transfers in any given year to
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Speaker 1: try and fill huge holes on the roster. Ohio State
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Speaker 1: is definitely not in that kind of a spot. They've
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Speaker 1: been able to be a little more surgical to sort
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Speaker 1: of pick and choose the spots where they want to
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Speaker 1: bring guys in and to be very particular about the
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Speaker 1: kind of guys that they're bringing in. But still, you're
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Speaker 1: bringing guys who've never played with each other before. You
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Speaker 1: never knew who they're going to mesh together. They had
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Speaker 1: brought in two players who were transfers this year whove
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Speaker 1: had to work very closely together. That is center Seth
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Speaker 1: McLaughlan from Alabama and quarterback Will Howard from Kansas State.
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Speaker 1: So they're both playing a very big role in this
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Speaker 1: year's team and they're playing a big role together there.
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Speaker 1: So how have they meshed so well together at that
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Speaker 1: center and quarterback position and how big is it for
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Speaker 1: the Buckeyes to have that kind of veteran leadership there
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Speaker 1: on offense?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it started in recruiting when we were at dinner,
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Speaker 2: they hit it off, parents hit it off and played
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Speaker 2: against them each other. I think maybe it was in
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Speaker 2: the Sugar Bowl when Kansas they played Alabama and they
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Speaker 2: just instantly had a good relationship. And then once they
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Speaker 2: got here, you know, they spend a lot of time
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Speaker 2: together in the meeting room looking at protections, you know,
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Speaker 2: talking about the cadence, you know, the snaps, you know,
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Speaker 2: those types of things. And so they're both, you know,
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Speaker 2: very intelligent guys and communicate both really well. So it
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Speaker 2: certainly helps to have a presence upfront and at the
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Speaker 2: quarterback possessions with both you know, have command like that,
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Speaker 2: and and that's going to be important, especially you know
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Speaker 2: as we start heading to these bigger games and you know,
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Speaker 2: start to see different adjustments that have to be made
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Speaker 2: in game. So but no, they they're you know now
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Speaker 2: I feel like they've been here for a while. They're
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Speaker 2: not newcomers anymore. They're they're veterans.
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Speaker 1: I have State's non conference schedule is let's just say,
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Speaker 1: not outstanding this year. Not the strictest test that any
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Speaker 1: team in the nation is going to face, certainly, but
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Speaker 1: this is a team that has been very big on
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Speaker 1: the fact that the standard is the standard. Doesn't matter
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Speaker 1: who's on the schedule. The standard is what do you
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Speaker 1: have to do to win the national championship? How do
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Speaker 1: you get better? How do you meet the threshold? The
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Speaker 1: benchmarks at the College Football Playoff Committee is setting all
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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Doesn't matter who they're playing on Saturday.
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Speaker 1: The standard is the standard. So in a week when
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Speaker 1: you've got Marshall on the schedule and they're coming off
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Speaker 1: of an off week, has the intensity in practice been
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Speaker 1: where Ryan Day wants it to be?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so. It wasn't all perfect. Yesterday
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Speaker 2: was a dynam practice. Today was hot, and we grew out.
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Speaker 2: We grind through it. I mean, some guys really pushed
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Speaker 2: through it today. It was a hard practice, but it
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Speaker 2: wasn't all perfect. But but you know, we put another
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Speaker 2: brick in the foundation, you know, and we feel like,
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Speaker 2: you know, our guys, you know, we'll get on the
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Speaker 2: film and figure it out. But if we keep pushing
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Speaker 2: and keep challenging each other. And you know, one of
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Speaker 2: the biggest things, you know, when you're trying to chase
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Speaker 2: something special is you know, you have to challenge each
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Speaker 2: other and yet you have to be truthful and sometimes
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Speaker 2: love doesn't only feel like love when you're challenging each other.
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Speaker 2: And you know, you got to do it though, and
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Speaker 2: you know, you have to have that approach that like,
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Speaker 2: you know, I love you so much now that you
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Speaker 2: know you're not gonna be hurting in the future. You
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Speaker 2: know that that you know, just gonna open up my
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Speaker 2: heart and and you know, just push you and and
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Speaker 2: you know, feel like you have open conversation back and forth,
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Speaker 2: you know, And and I think that's what it is.
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Speaker 2: And if it's not good enough, we gotta we got
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Speaker 2: to call it off what it is, you know, and
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Speaker 2: and what it is, we gotta we got to celebrate
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Speaker 2: those moments as well. So all things that we're talking
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Speaker 2: about this week. But I think you know, over all,
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Speaker 2: the intensity was good today. Today was a hot day.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what what the temperature was out there,
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Speaker 2: but it was it was. It was a good good
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Speaker 2: day for us to get on the field and get
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Speaker 2: some work in and push through it. And and so
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Speaker 2: now you know, tonight we've got to get our rest.
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Speaker 2: I gotta have a good practice tomorrow and then noon
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Speaker 2: it'll come fast.
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Speaker 1: One big and very welcome piece of news for the
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Speaker 1: buck Eyes is that starting left guard Donovan Jackson will
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Speaker 1: be back. He sat out the first two games of
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Speaker 1: the season, somewhat of a precautionary thing, but are we
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Speaker 1: a smart decision to do that? He is back now
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Speaker 1: this week. So is Ryanay eager to see that first
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Speaker 1: team offensive line finally get a chance to play all together.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear that answer, and then a quick follow
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Speaker 1: up from Tim May of Letterman Roe.
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Speaker 2: I think there's a little bit of confidence being built
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Speaker 2: there coming off a last game, and then you know,
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Speaker 2: getting Donnie in there is just another piece of that
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Speaker 2: confidence and just solidifying it in there. I thought the
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Speaker 2: offensive line had one of their better practices on Tuesday.
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Speaker 2: We'll look at the film coming off of today, but
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Speaker 2: we got to keep building that and you know that
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Speaker 2: that confidence and that finished down the field. You know
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Speaker 2: that that's that's what we can be. You know, we're
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Speaker 2: an athletic group up there. So yeah, I think having
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Speaker 2: him in there gives everybody a lot of confidence. A leader, experience,
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Speaker 2: communicates well, and a very good player, you know, to me,
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Speaker 2: best guard in the country. So you know, for Seth
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Speaker 2: and for for josh On, on both sides of them,
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Speaker 2: it's just you know, here's a guy that's been through
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Speaker 2: it before. I do think Austin played well when he
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Speaker 2: was in there, but but this is a guy who's
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Speaker 2: played a lot of football and one of the best
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Speaker 2: in the game.
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Speaker 1: Now onto Denzel Burke. We always talk about him as
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Speaker 1: sort of the most honest man in that locker room,
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Speaker 1: at least when it comes through the interview setting. He
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Speaker 1: always gives you a straight answer, and for the most part,
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Speaker 1: he did that again. On Wednesday, he was kicked out
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Speaker 1: of the Western Michigan game for targeting, a targeting call
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Speaker 1: that got buzzed out from the booth and then I
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people did not really agree with.
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Speaker 1: So here was Denzel Burke getting asked about just getting
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Speaker 1: kicked out. What that was like for him, getting kicked
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Speaker 1: out of the game for targeting against Western Michigan.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's never a good feeling, especially you know, as
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Speaker 3: my last year, I'm trying to make everything to trying
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Speaker 3: to take advantage of every opportunity I have and just
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Speaker 3: being out for the first half kind of sucked. But
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Speaker 3: you know, it's part of the game.
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Speaker 1: So when you get kicked out of the game like that,
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Speaker 1: you do get to stay on the sideline. That's a
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Speaker 1: relatively new thing. That rule changed a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 1: You no longer have to take the walk of Shane
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Speaker 1: back to the locker room. But when you get kicked
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Speaker 1: out of a game like that, what next? What are you?
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Speaker 1: What are you doing on the sideline after you gotten
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Speaker 1: booted like that?
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Speaker 3: Really just being the leader, supporting my support of my teammates,
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Speaker 3: making sure you know, they're taking advantage of their play opportunities,
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Speaker 3: and uh, really just being that that vocal let on
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Speaker 3: the sideline and you know, lifting the energy up.
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Speaker 1: Denzel Burke talked in another answer that we're not playing
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Speaker 1: for you here, but talked about the fact that they
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Speaker 1: have they have been, you know, fairly happy with how
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Speaker 1: they've played so far this season, and they're trying to
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Speaker 1: continue to live up to the standard that they want
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Speaker 1: to live up to. But what is Denzel Burke not
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Speaker 1: liked about this season here or so of that trade
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Speaker 1: trademark Denzel Burke honesty.
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Speaker 3: I would just say, why can I say this? I
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Speaker 3: wish our schedule was a little better going into the season,
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Speaker 3: like the start of the season. And another thing I
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Speaker 3: would have to say is I feel like we could
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Speaker 3: be more. We could run to the ball more and
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Speaker 3: really just take out of little things and you know,
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Speaker 3: not play to level our opponents sometimes.
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Speaker 1: So when he says he has not been thrilled with
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Speaker 1: the schedule, what does that mean is that he wants
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Speaker 1: to play in big, national, high profile games. Is that
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Speaker 1: that he wants the team to get tested and know
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Speaker 1: where they really stay and what he talks about wanting
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Speaker 1: to play in those games, what does a what does
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Speaker 1: that mean?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, I definitely want to get a real
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Speaker 3: look where we're at and just to be able to
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Speaker 3: have a matchup game early in the year like these
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Speaker 3: other teams around the country. It kind of just shows
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Speaker 3: you where you're at, and it's a good startup to
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Speaker 3: the season, especially if you win them.
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Speaker 1: With the Buckeyes facing some lesser opponents the first few
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Speaker 1: weeks of the season on Saturday, that just puts more
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Speaker 1: emphasis and more impact on the practices that the Buckeyes
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Speaker 1: have during the week, especially Tuesdays and Wednesdays, where they
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Speaker 1: will go good on good ones versus ones. However you
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Speaker 1: want to say it, Denzel Burke, He's gonna be going
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Speaker 1: up against a Mecca Abuka or Parnell Tait or Jeremiah
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Speaker 1: Smith or any of the other other OHIGH state wide
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Speaker 1: receivers and really getting put to the test. So when
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Speaker 1: your Saturdays are maybe a little easier than you might
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Speaker 1: want this time of year, does that make the Tuesdays
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Speaker 1: and Wednesdays even more important?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely agree with that. For me,
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Speaker 3: I take Tuesday and Wednesday really personal for me to
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Speaker 3: be able to elevate my game to the highest level
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Speaker 3: I can and get one percent better every single day,
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Speaker 3: and Tuesday and Wednesdays is good on good man, So
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Speaker 3: I really take advantage of those reps.
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Speaker 1: The conversation a little later on went back to that
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Speaker 1: targeting call. The reporter asked it, you know, how hard
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Speaker 1: is it you You are known for speaking your mind,
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Speaker 1: so how hard is it to not say what you
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Speaker 1: probably want to about that targeting call? Here comes that trademark,
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Speaker 1: Denzel Burke honesty.
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Speaker 3: It's really hard. It was it was a bull crap crawl.
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Speaker 3: I really didn't understand it. And it's kind of been
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Speaker 3: going around around the country. Really, I've seen one I
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Speaker 3: think it was Florida and what was the other team?
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Speaker 3: And then that was that was a bad call too,
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Speaker 3: And then My call too, is it's kind of just
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Speaker 3: getting out of hand, and then the fact that you're
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Speaker 3: out the whole game and the players not even heard
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Speaker 3: or anything like that, And I was kind of like
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Speaker 3: the last one in. I guess I could see the
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Speaker 3: perspective the rest were looking at, but uh, yeah, it sucks.
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Speaker 1: One of the other things that we have really enjoyed
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Speaker 1: about talking to Denzel Burke over the years is he
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Speaker 1: will shoot you straight on the young guys. It's very
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Speaker 1: easy to say, oh, yeah, he's coming along, definitely got
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Speaker 1: a break future, and just sort of give that answer
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Speaker 1: about everyone. Denzel Burke will tell you if a guy's
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Speaker 1: not ready, not ready for primetime, he will let you know.
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Speaker 1: It's not not a mean thing. He is not being
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Speaker 1: a jerk. He's just letting you know, yeah, not ready
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Speaker 1: for primetime. Doesn't feel they need to sugarcoat stuff. So
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Speaker 1: he was asked about true freshman cornerback Aaron Scott out
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Speaker 1: of Springfield. What is he seen out of Aaron Scott
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Speaker 1: so far that he likes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Aaron definitely has flashes and he shows that in practice.
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Speaker 3: I feel like for me, it definitely has to be
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Speaker 3: a little bit more consistent. You know he has a
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Speaker 3: lot of ways to go. I'm still young, but you
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Speaker 3: know the unit, you know, we're doing our job to
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Speaker 3: be able to show him on the field and show
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Speaker 3: him off the field of what it means to be elite.
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Speaker 1: You heard that word consistent there, and that's something you
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Speaker 1: hear a lot about guys. The coaches talk about that
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Speaker 1: with young guys. Yeah, I've seen flashes, but you got
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Speaker 1: to be more consistent or you know, you need to
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Speaker 1: see more consistency out of this guy practicer and meetings
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Speaker 1: or whatever it is. So I asked Denzel Burke, what
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Speaker 1: what does that work consistent mean to him? Where do
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Speaker 1: you need to see that consistency and where does that
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Speaker 1: show up during a guy's week.
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Speaker 3: Consistent it means being consistent all areas of the game. Really,
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Speaker 3: especially in practice. You can't have you can't have ups
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Speaker 3: and down, especially at Ohio State. So we have to
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Speaker 3: stay that into the young guys because you never know
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Speaker 3: when the opportunity is going to come and they're going
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Speaker 3: to have to you know, live up to the moment
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Speaker 3: and while out.
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Speaker 1: Well, that'll do it for today's show. Get the chance
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Speaker 1: to hear from Ryan Day. Always interesting to hear from
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Speaker 1: him and definitely always interested to hear from Denzel Burke.
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Speaker 1: Wanted to let you hear from him a little bit.
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Speaker 1: He's always always a great interview, pretty darn good football player,
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Speaker 1: maybe a better interview, So I hope you guys enjoyed
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