Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Inside The OIG Interview: The Testimony Of The Electrical Engineer From MCC (Part 3) (4/25/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
- 0:06where we left off with the electrical engineer from MCC
- 0:09and his interview with the OIG. Question do you have
- 0:14anything on that? Answer? A lot? Yes, a lot. And
- 0:19that's the other investigator jumping in. Now, maybe you answered
- 0:25some of this and maybe just being a layman, I
- 0:27didn't understand. But so going back to the beginning, how
- 0:32many cameras are in the MCC or were there in
- 0:36August ninth and tenth? Answer? I would have to look
- 0:39through those right now. Question well approximately answer. Old partner
- 0:44would always tell me that there was like two hundred.
- 0:46I probably think like one fifty if that, I don't
- 0:49even think that it was one fifty. Question and you
- 0:51said at the time there were approximately ten that were
- 0:54not working. Answer yes, question what does that mean not working? Answer?
- 0:59It probably needs to get at a focus just the
- 1:02video is probably grainy, not the best video. Questions, so
- 1:06they're on, but they were so differentiate for me because
- 1:10you said that there are cameras in the shoe were working,
- 1:14but they weren't recording. So what's the difference between working
- 1:17and not recording when you're talking about that answer. Okay,
- 1:21so if you have a camera working, you can see
- 1:23the video, but it's not recording, that's totally different problem. Question. Okay,
- 1:28so the ones that you say that are not working,
- 1:31there's a problem with what you're seeing. Answer yeah, question,
- 1:35but they're recording or they're not recording. Answer it could
- 1:38possibly be that they could be recording or it can't
- 1:41be recording. Question. All right, And then when we just
- 1:44talked about the shoe, there's approximately ten cameras in the shoe.
- 1:48Answer yeah, question, and the cameras in the shoe only
- 1:52one out of the ten, only one was recording. Answer
- 1:55only one, Yeah, because it was on a different recorder
- 1:58at the time. Question. And on August ninth, you said
- 2:02that you knew some of them were not recording. Is
- 2:04that what you were saying? Answer? I knew, Yes, something
- 2:07was going on. I went up to the room and
- 2:09I was about to change everything out, and I didn't
- 2:11have access, so I had to leave for the day. Question.
- 2:14And that's on August ninth. Answer August ninth, the end
- 2:17of the day question. And that was the very first
- 2:21time that you knew that they were not recording. Answer
- 2:24on that day Yes, question okay, answer towards the end
- 2:28of the day. Question and did you know all of
- 2:31them were not recording at the time? Aside from that
- 2:33one answer, I didn't know exactly what wasn't recording on
- 2:37the recorder. I don't know exactly which ones weren't working.
- 2:40I just knew that the recorder was down. Answer and
- 2:43how did you know that question? As soon as I
- 2:46went in, I saw the drives, because the drives usually
- 2:49they're green when everything's working, and amber like when there
- 2:53is an emergency or something's wrong. And I saw that
- 2:56there was a few ambers, so like it wasn't recording.
- 2:59Then I called Signette, the company, and they said, I
- 3:02have to start rebuilding. And what start rebuilding means is
- 3:05I have to pull that hard drive out and start
- 3:07putting fresh hard drives in. And then the system it
- 3:10knows that it put a new hard drive in, it
- 3:13starts to sync up and does this thing where it
- 3:15starts to go through, it does all of its checks
- 3:18and starts recording. And that would pretty much take a day.
- 3:23Question that takes like a whole day to do that
- 3:26answer a day, Yes, And I was at that stage
- 3:28pulling everything out that was probably going to take a
- 3:31couple of days to pull all the drives out and
- 3:34start recording again. Question and did you make that notification
- 3:38that the camera in the shoe were not recording to anyone? Answer?
- 3:42I believe I told my supervisor. Question and who would
- 3:45have been your supervisor at the time? Answer? Uh, there
- 3:50was really like I don't think there was nobody there
- 3:52because we were like in the middle of a project
- 3:54and it was kind of chaos. Question Okay, did you
- 3:57but at the time, though you knew basic all the
- 4:00shoe cameras were down but one Answer No, I didn't
- 4:04know anything about the shoe cameras. Question no, no, I'm
- 4:08talking about the shoe cameras specifically. Answer no, I don't.
- 4:12I don't know what's on the recorders. At the time,
- 4:14I didn't know what was on the recorders. Question all right,
- 4:19so when you went in you knew that some recorders
- 4:22some cameras weren't recording, and you didn't know which ones.
- 4:26Answer ones? Yeah, Question all right, So about how many
- 4:29were amber where it was showing you that they weren't recording.
- 4:33Answer that was like half of them, so I'll say
- 4:36fifty to sixty cameras are probably not recording. Question so
- 4:41there were a ton he gets cut off in that
- 4:44slot that weren't working. Question and is there anything that
- 4:49that just all happened on that one day of August ninth? Answer,
- 4:52it happened before multiple times before. Question it happened before
- 4:57answer before. Yes, question so you have actually troubleshot this
- 5:01in the past. Answer yeah, same problem. I have to
- 5:05rebuild drives, and I mean, hey, this isn't working. I've
- 5:08got to rebuild the drive. There's really nothing I can do.
- 5:11I just put the drive in and I wait and
- 5:14I make sure it comes back. Question so this was
- 5:17the end of the day, you said, so around like
- 5:19two you're thinking answer on one something one something? Yeah,
- 5:25question all right? And then being that it happened before,
- 5:28was there anything that you're supposed to do if like, hey,
- 5:31I've got a note notify like the captain. Answer No,
- 5:35at my old jail. I'm not trying to throw anybody
- 5:37under the bus. But at my old jail, if anything
- 5:40wasn't working and I was in contact, I couldn't leave
- 5:43the jail. Like if the fence because we had a
- 5:45fence system or cameras aren't recording I would have to
- 5:49fix stay there until Okay, I need a part. This
- 5:53is what we're doing, send notification. This place has run
- 5:56a lot differently, and I've said stuff from before and
- 5:59my supervisor, but just like, oh, go home redacted, don't
- 6:03worry about it. And I'm like, well, if I go home,
- 6:05nobody's going to fix it. And at that time, I
- 6:09was the only person that knew what was going on.
- 6:11We had bad practices when I got to this jail.
- 6:14Question So did someone tell you not to fix it
- 6:16and to go home on August ninth? Answer? I'm not
- 6:19too sure, I believe. So I'm not going to say
- 6:22yes or no because I don't really remember that day
- 6:25too much. But I did make a notification that it
- 6:28wasn't working. Question to who answer and I was going
- 6:32to be back the next day because I was doing overtime.
- 6:36Question all right, So you were coming back on August tenth.
- 6:38Answer yeah, the next morning, because I came at six
- 6:41am the next morning to do overtime. Question So, and
- 6:46is that when you were planning to fix it? Answer?
- 6:48Fix it? Yes, question So you were going to start
- 6:51the next day and fix it. He gets cut off
- 6:53by the engineer and I had the drive too at
- 6:56that time. I do remember that question, and you said
- 7:00you made the notification. Who did you make that notification?
- 7:03To answer my supervisor? I don't know exactly which supervisor
- 7:07it was, but I know I made a notification. Question,
- 7:10so you're positive you made it? Answer? Yeah? Question and
- 7:14how would that notification have been made? Answer? Probably verbally,
- 7:19because it's not something I would broadcast over the radio
- 7:22or like go on phone. I would like call you
- 7:24in a room because I don't want anybody to know that.
- 7:26You know that I can't record video. That's not a
- 7:29good thing. Question and I apologize. I think when I
- 7:33asked this question. I'm not exactly sure what you meant
- 7:35by this. But were you supposed to advise somebody like
- 7:37the captain or the warden that the cameras were down?
- 7:41Answer because the way the recorders work, the cameras are
- 7:45the captain's property, so you have to notify the captain. Hey,
- 7:48the cameras aren't recording. Question and was that your job
- 7:52to notify him? Answer? No, I notified my supervisor and
- 7:56may notify the captain. If I see the captain, I'll
- 7:58say something to him, or I'll tell the lieutenant. But
- 8:01other than that, I don't have anything to say about
- 8:03the cameras being down. Question okay, so far, so as
- 8:08far you're a positive you did notify your supervisor. Answer yeah,
- 8:12I notified somebody because they have to know because I
- 8:15told them that I was going to come back the
- 8:17next day. Question so you just don't know who it was?
- 8:21Answer I'm not too sure. Question is there how can
- 8:25we find out who would have been your supervisor at
- 8:27the time. Answer It's documented somewhere whoever my supervisor was
- 8:31at the time. Question all right, so that person would
- 8:35have been responsible to notify someone such as the captain
- 8:38or the warden. Answer yes, question because if the captain
- 8:42was out or no, he did work on the ninth right,
- 8:45So that means that around one pm to two pm
- 8:48you notified your supervisor. That supervisor should have notified the captain.
- 8:54Answer yeah, and when I got a proof of overtime
- 8:56the next day, so somebody knew I was coming back.
- 9:00Question Oh, and does that specifically why you were approved
- 9:03for the overtime? Answer? No, I was coming back to
- 9:06do the project, but they knew I had the drives
- 9:09because I was going back and forth with my computer
- 9:11service guy, because he knows more about the hard drives
- 9:14than I do. Where getting the parts in? Why don't
- 9:17I just do this? And I remember that part of
- 9:20the day. Question Now, what would cause all those cameras
- 9:23to actually fell like that? The recorders? Answer all the recording.
- 9:28The system was old and it needed to be upgraded.
- 9:31It was very old. Question was it Could it have
- 9:34been anything to do with people tampering the system? Answer? No,
- 9:38they can't tamper with it. You have to go in
- 9:40a room. It's behind the lock and key key in
- 9:42the door. Question so there's no reason to believe that
- 9:46those cameras. Answer there's two doors too, because you go
- 9:52through the front door and then there's a secondary door
- 9:55to go into the room. Question all right, so you
- 9:57said the cameras are working and they're in this room.
- 10:00Is anyone actually in that room looking at the cameras? Answer?
- 10:04There used to be, And that's an SIS tech. I
- 10:07think maybe redacted was there as the SIS tech for
- 10:10that day. Question Now, when you're so, would he have
- 10:14known that they weren't recording? Answer? No, His job is
- 10:17pretty much to look at the live feed and maybe
- 10:20look at the recording. But they do stuff a little
- 10:22bit different here, so I'm not too sure exactly what
- 10:25his function was. Question now, would they also have seen
- 10:30this amber he gets cut off. No, they don't go
- 10:33back in the room. Question so there's a different room.
- 10:37Answer yeah, it's a different room altogether. They just look
- 10:41at the monitors in the room at the time. Question
- 10:45So by looking at the monitor, would they be able
- 10:48to have known that the cameras were down? Answer no,
- 10:51as far as recording, No, they would just have the
- 10:54live feed and everything looks good. Question So for them,
- 10:58they would have no idea that there was actually a
- 11:01problem on the shoe cameras. Answer yeah. And then the
- 11:06software too. Even if you look at the software at
- 11:09the time, it wasn't even telling you that there was
- 11:11a problem. You would think it was actually working. Question right, So,
- 11:15to your knowledge, the only people that definitely knew that
- 11:18the cameras were down were you and your supervisor. Answer
- 11:22the supervisor. Yes. Question and do you know if your
- 11:24supervisor actually made that notification to anyone else? Answer I
- 11:28don't recall. I don't know who he talks to. Question
- 11:32after the fact, did you ever find out if he
- 11:35did or didn't? Answer? I don't remember. Question were you
- 11:39questioned with regard to what happened with the cameras? Answer? Yes,
- 11:42question who questioned you? Answer the next day because I
- 11:46was here, I had to talk with the warden about
- 11:48what was going on with the cameras. Question and you
- 11:52remember what he gets cut off by the engineer and
- 11:55the FBI too. The next day question okay, but otherwise
- 12:00he was not president for that question the next day answer, Yeah,
- 12:03there was nobody here. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap
- 12:07up right here, and in the next episode dealing with
- 12:10the topic, we're gonna pick up where we left off.
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