Latest / Wits & Weights | Strength & Fat Loss Over 40 / 3 Sleep Fixes to Improve Fat Loss and Recovery | Ep 375
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- 0:01Philip Pape: If you're someone who prioritizes your training, your nutrition and recovery, but sleep still feels a little bit elusive, like this frustrating puzzle you can't solve and you've tried a lot of the hacks the standard advice about blue light blockers and magnesium and cold room temperature, but you're still waking up tired.
- 0:18Philip Pape: I'm going to share three system level fixes that you might not have thought about that can address the root causes and not just the symptoms.
- 0:26Philip Pape: One involves rethinking when you train, another challenges the materials you sleep with, and the third is going to question sleeping in on the weekend.
- 0:35Philip Pape: Welcome to Wits and Weights, the show that helps you build a strong, healthy physique using evidence, engineering and efficiency.
- 0:52Philip Pape: I'm your host, philip Pape, and today we're going to tackle a problem that affects all aspects of your physique goals, and that is sleep.
- 1:00Philip Pape: You know that feeling when you've dialed in all the things.
- 1:02Philip Pape: You're training consistently.
- 1:04Philip Pape: Your nutrition is on point, you're even managing your stress, but something feels off.
- 1:05Philip Pape: You know that feeling when you've dialed in all the things you're training consistently.
- 1:05Philip Pape: Your nutrition is on point, you're even managing your stress, but something feels off.
- 1:09Philip Pape: You know you're hitting your protein, you're getting your steps, you're following the program, but the recovery might not be there, or your energy is inconsistent or your fat loss has stalled, and maybe part of that is due to, you know, cravings, even sometimes the feeling of uncontrollable cravings, even despite doing everything right, maybe even belly fat.
- 1:27Philip Pape: You're trying to get rid of the belly fat.
- 1:28Philip Pape: It's not quite working Well, nine times out of 10,.
- 1:31Philip Pape: The missing piece is sleep.
- 1:33Philip Pape: We have to understand this.
- 1:35Philip Pape: Not getting enough quality sleep.
- 1:37Philip Pape: We're not talking just quantity of sleep, although that's important.
- 1:40Philip Pape: It's this overall system that allows you to have that consistent sleep quality.
- 1:45Philip Pape: Most people treat sleep problems like isolated incidents.
- 1:49Philip Pape: We try to have these individual hacks when reality it's the bigger picture.
- 1:52Philip Pape: That's important, but today I do want to drill down a level and talk about three fixes that can get, that can address some of the root causes of sleep quality, of restfulness, the things that you can measure with, say, your Oura Ring or your Fitbit about deep sleep and REM sleep, and I think if you can address these and then see what the data tells you, you can find something that works better for you.
- 2:14Philip Pape: We are going to cover today how training timing affects your sleep architecture.
- 2:20Philip Pape: Let's call it how the choice of what you sleep in, the materials could affect your recovery and your body temperature, and then a weekend habit that many of us are guilty of that could be throwing off your metabolism a little bit that you didn't even realize.
- 2:33Philip Pape: So by the end of this episode, you're going to understand why better sleep isn't just about feeling rested, even though that's important.
- 2:40Philip Pape: It's also optimizing your fat loss, your recovery, so you build that muscle and even your cognitive performance and your mental alertness and your energy throughout the day.
- 2:51Philip Pape: And then I'm going to share a bonus protocol at the end that can reset your energy in under two minutes.
- 2:57Philip Pape: So stick around for that.
- 2:59Philip Pape: All right, let's start building a better sleep system.
- 3:01Philip Pape: Let's talk about first the kind of system level here.
- 3:05Philip Pape: When it comes to sleep, you don't want to just replace one broken piece.
- 3:09Philip Pape: You want to look at the whole system and understand why it failed in the first place.
- 3:12Philip Pape: And poor sleep isn't usually about one thing going wrong.
- 3:16Philip Pape: It's multiple things interacting and they cascade right, kind of like when I say hormones are tied up with everything.
- 3:22Philip Pape: They're tied up with your muscle and your training and everything else.
- 3:25Philip Pape: Similar thing is sleep can be causing a lot of the other issues you're experiencing, one of those, the big ones being cravings and stalled fat loss, where your metabolism starts to compensate.
- 3:35Philip Pape: So today we're going to look at three of those.
- 3:37Philip Pape: Let's start with fix number one, and this one a lot of people don't think about, but it has to do with your training schedule.
- 3:43Philip Pape: Your training schedule isn't just about being consistent in the gym, although that's an extremely important piece of it.
- 3:49Philip Pape: It is actually part of your sleep schedule as well.
- 3:53Philip Pape: Most people don't think about that how workout timing affects your circadian rhythm and your sleep drive in all different ways, both in the morning, in the afternoon and in the afternoon.
- 4:05Philip Pape: Slash evening Exercise of any kind impacts your autonomic nervous system for a while after you're done, about six to 12 hours.
- 4:13Philip Pape: So if you're training late in the day this is the first one I'm going to start with If you're training late in the day and you're struggling to fall asleep, you're basically fighting an elevated core body temperature and a high activated sympathetic nervous system.
- 4:26Philip Pape: It's kind of the reason why I suggest people don't, you know, watch TV or read or watch anything stimulating, like on social media, you know, or news, for example, today, before they go to sleep.
- 4:38Philip Pape: So the solution to that is trying to train earlier in the day and seeing how that affects your sleep quality and your stress.
- 4:45Philip Pape: Because if you can move your training to the morning I'm a huge fan of this one it will lower your evening cortisol, right.
- 4:52Philip Pape: It will actually help you get into a better stress curve for the day and support and strengthen your circadian rhythm by creating that clear wake signal by training in the morning.
- 5:03Philip Pape: Now, if you have to train later which my number one criteria is usually adherence you need to be able to get to the gym consistently.
- 5:11Philip Pape: So if you can't do that in the morning and you don't go to the gym, well what's the point right?
- 5:14Philip Pape: So if you must train later because of schedule or preference or whatever, you want to make sure that those are strength training sessions and you're not doing cardio.
- 5:22Philip Pape: That's my next.
- 5:24Philip Pape: Resistance training can still be helpful and increase your sleep drive, even if it's later in the day, without the stimulatory effects of high intensity cardio.
- 5:36Philip Pape: So if you're going to train later in the day, at least don't do any form of cardio other than walking.
- 5:40Philip Pape: Of course walking is actually great, but more intense cardio that you're going to fit in, put that somewhere else, earlier in the day or on your non-training day, but earlier during the day the next piece of this when it comes to your training schedule is to consolidate your training days and instead of doing, say, four, five or six days a week, try three or four or even two if you have to, although I think two is going to result in too little volume for the week.
- 6:06Philip Pape: But in some cases, when I've gone into a fat loss phase, for example, I don't have a lot of recovery capacity, I will do three days a week, knowing that that gives me more rest days and more potential time to get a little bit extra sleep.
- 6:19Philip Pape: So, as much as I am a fan of consistent sleep times, a little bit of difference let's say a half an hour can be helpful when you need that extra half hour on the days where you're not training.
- 6:30Philip Pape: So if you normally train in the morning, now you sleep in an extra half hour.
- 6:32Philip Pape: I wouldn't sleep an extra hour or more.
- 6:34Philip Pape: That's actually gonna tie to something we're gonna talk about later today but just to have that little extra time and it's not only the sleep, it's the rest, the rest where your nervous system can fully recover and that's gonna lead to deeper sleep on your non-training day.
- 6:48Philip Pape: See, this is the thing with sleep, it's not just about the time in bed.
- 6:50Philip Pape: It's all the other things you do during the day that can affect the time in bed and how deep and restful that sleep is.
- 6:57Philip Pape: The data shows that exercise improves sleep quality.
- 7:00Philip Pape: Just period doing any sorts of movement increase.
- 7:03Philip Pape: So being active right, even walking increases your sleep quality by up to 65%.
- 7:08Philip Pape: But the timing here is what determines whether you get that benefit or you're fighting against it.
- 7:15Philip Pape: So think about your training schedule for this one.
- 7:17Philip Pape: Okay, this is really more than a hack.
- 7:19Philip Pape: This is very fundamental to both the consistency of your training, but also how it affects your restfulness, your stress throughout the day, your sleep and your recovery.
- 7:27Philip Pape: All right.
- 7:28Philip Pape: So again, the the the hacks are trained in the morning is is my preference for most people.
- 7:33Philip Pape: And if you can't train earlier in the afternoon, don't train too late and don't put cardio at the end of the day, right, and then you know, think about the days per week and how that affects your ability to rest, especially when you're during fat loss.
- 7:45Philip Pape: All right.
- 7:46Philip Pape: So system fix.
- 7:48Philip Pape: Number two for sleep.
- 7:49Philip Pape: I really love this one, and this is about regulating your body temperature, the onset of sleep, right when you go into bed and then between the time you set your head down on the pillow and you actually fall asleep requires a drop, a fairly precise drop, in your core body temperature.
- 8:06Philip Pape: I don't know if you're aware of this, but you need about a two to three degree Fahrenheit drop in your temperature to go to sleep, and a lot of us are, besides our room temperature right, which you've heard this before.
- 8:17Philip Pape: I think you should just naturally have your temperature set to a comfortable, cool temperature for bed, no matter what it tends to save energy.
- 8:24Philip Pape: Obviously it depends on the time of year, whether you have a fan, whether you have windows, whether you have air conditioner, all of that.
- 8:32Philip Pape: But the you know.
- 8:32Philip Pape: But assuming that's all set.
- 8:33Philip Pape: The bedding is your next real opportunity here and the problem I've seen.
- 8:37Philip Pape: I used to think it was the mattress, right, and I have a really good trust me, expensive mattress and I know there's Tempur-Pedics and there's Sleep Number and there's all these fancy mattresses and that's great.
- 8:46Philip Pape: That's going to really help with the comfort and the firmness.
- 8:49Philip Pape: But think about what you're actually sleeping on and in it's sheets.
- 8:53Philip Pape: It's the sheets and most sheets are like the typical polyester and cotton blend.
- 8:58Philip Pape: They actually trap heat and moisture.
- 9:01Philip Pape: So if you're the type like me that gets a little bit warm, you'll start to sweat.
- 9:05Philip Pape: That's going to prevent you getting rid of that body heat and regulating your body and then getting into deep sleep.
- 9:10Philip Pape: I know for a fact when I'm hotter, for whatever reason including I had alcohol at night and that makes me hotter, whatever reason when your body temperature is higher and then the next day you wake up, your deep sleep is far less than it should have been, and that is why.
- 9:23Philip Pape: So, if you think about high thread count fabrics, which are considered higher quality, but the problem is they are thicker and they create this micro environment that actually fights against natural temperature cycling.
- 9:35Philip Pape: So what is the fix here?
- 9:37Philip Pape: You have to look carefully at the materials for your sheets, materials that actively wick moisture away, that promote airflow.
- 9:43Philip Pape: It's just like when you train and you think about what you're wearing your clothes, your shirt, your pants right, you want them to be comfortable.
- 9:49Philip Pape: You don't want to get all sticky and sweaty, because then that'll kind of heat you up and slow you down.
- 9:53Philip Pape: So I really love sheets that are derived from a material that can help you keep cooler.
- 9:58Philip Pape: One such in particular, which is what I use, is made from viscose that comes from bamboo.
- 10:04Philip Pape: Now here's here's a funny little story.
- 10:06Philip Pape: My TMI the underwear that I wear, are briefs made with a bamboo derived material, and I noticed they kept me a lot cooler and they were great for workouts and everything else.
- 10:15Philip Pape: And then I'm like well, is there something similar for sheets?
- 10:18Philip Pape: And there is, and the ones I use are by Cozy Earth You're probably going to hear an ad for that in a moment, but those are the ones I use because they cool you down.
- 10:26Philip Pape: They create a two to three degree cooler sleep surface compared to these other materials like cotton.
- 10:36Philip Pape: Hey, this is Philip, and you know that one spot in your home you were thinking about all day, the place where you can finally unwind and relax.
- 10:40Philip Pape: For me, that's my bed.
- 10:41Philip Pape: I have a really good mattress, but I was still having trouble with getting too hot at night and not feeling fully rested.
- 10:47Philip Pape: You know that feeling where you have your seven or eight hours but you still feel tired in the morning.
- 10:52Philip Pape: Well, it turns out that the missing piece was my sheets.
- 10:55Philip Pape: So I tried some different brands and I finally settled on a really comfortable sheet set from Cozy Earth, made from viscose, from bamboo.
- 11:03Philip Pape: They're temperature regulating, so they naturally wick away heat and moisture, which has made my sleep way more restful.
- 11:10Philip Pape: So if you run hot at night, like I do, or your partner's always stealing the covers because they're cold, this could be a game changer for your sleep quality and recovery.
- 11:18Philip Pape: Cozy Earth also gives you a 100-night sleep trial and a 10-year warranty, so you can literally try them for three months with your routine and still return them if you don't love them.
- 11:29Philip Pape: Now think about this you spend 2,500 hours a year in bed and you're already investing in training and nutrition, so why not optimize your sleep as well?
- 11:38Philip Pape: Head over to witsandweightscom slash Cozy Earth and use my code WITSANDWEIGHTS for 20% off to try these for yourself, because sometimes it's the small upgrades that make the biggest difference.
- 11:49Philip Pape: Again, go to witsandweightscom slash Co.
- 11:52Philip Pape: So definitely take a look at the material that your sheets are made from and whether that is helping out with your body temperature, knowing that that can make a massive difference in your deep sleep and recovery.
- 12:04Philip Pape: All right, now fix number three is really about the consistency of your circadian rhythm and the sleep and wake times.
- 12:13Philip Pape: Now I'm not going to just give you the simple, tried and true recommendation of consistent bed and wake times.
- 12:19Philip Pape: Give you the simple, tried and true recommendation of consistent bed and wake times.
- 12:21Philip Pape: I'm going to actually talk about the impact that happens when you sleep in too much, which often happens on the weekend.
- 12:25Philip Pape: So raise your hand or do it virtually If you like to sleep in on a Saturday or Sunday.
- 12:30Philip Pape: You know, you've had kind of a tough week.
- 12:31Philip Pape: Maybe you've had seven hours a night, maybe six and a half, you know, and it's it's kind of right on that hairy edge of really what you need, and then you try to make up for it on the weekend, and when you do that by at least 45 minutes to an hour longer than you slept on the weekdays, it creates something called social jet lag.
- 12:48Philip Pape: Your body experiences the same disruption as if you flew across multiple time zones.
- 12:54Philip Pape: Just one night of sleeping in for two hours or more actually shifts your circadian rhythm, not permanently, but it basically tells your body okay, now we've just moved things.
- 13:04Philip Pape: And so not only do you feel groggy and you might not feel groggy when you wake up but it kind of has a cascading effect of grogginess.
- 13:12Philip Pape: It also affects your glucose metabolism, your hunger hormones, your recovery capacity for several days potentially.
- 13:18Philip Pape: So sleeping in on the weekend could actually be backfiring.
- 13:23Philip Pape: Studies show that people with inconsistent sleep schedules have 27% higher risk of metabolic dysfunction, even when their sleep time is sufficient.
- 13:32Philip Pape: So really the advice here is stay within an hour of your normal sleep and wake times, especially the wake time.
- 13:39Philip Pape: Most of us go to bed around the same time, even on the weekends, let's say.
- 13:42Philip Pape: I mean sometimes it's later, but especially in the weekends.
- 13:45Philip Pape: Don't try to sleep in by some extreme amount of time that goes beyond what you normally sleep on the weekdays.
- 13:52Philip Pape: I know that's tough to hear, because you wanna get that sleep.
- 13:54Philip Pape: If anything, I would maybe add a nap at a different point or really focus on the week being a little bit longer, if that's what you need on those days.
- 14:03Philip Pape: And it's kind of like the pressure in your system where small deviations are manageable but large ones can cause a change in the threshold, let's say where your body is like okay, something has changed.
- 14:17Philip Pape: We are now going to go into a different mode where you actually need more sleep and then come Monday you don't get that sleep and all of a sudden you're not well rested and it just goes haywire.
- 14:25Philip Pape: So I would say try to extend the amount of time you sleep during the week and or don't sleep in excessively on the weekend, and that's really going to help there.
- 14:34Philip Pape: All right, I actually have a bonus hack for you here, and it's what I call the two minute reset, and I know I've heard this a couple times on some different podcasts.
- 14:43Philip Pape: And then I looked into the research and it's very fascinating, because I didn't believe this to be the case.
- 14:48Philip Pape: But now I'm taking advantage of this myself because it's a really great hack for people who are super busy, okay, who are just slammed all day.
- 14:56Philip Pape: Deep sleep does require long periods of rest, so your brain's gonna benefit from that, but your brain can also benefit from ultra short periods of disengagement.
- 15:08Philip Pape: There is research on brief mental rest that shows even two to 10 minute periods of reduced stimulation.
- 15:15Philip Pape: Notice, I'm not talking about going to a deep sleep, a nap, but just kind of a cat nap, if you want to call it, or just closing your eyes.
- 15:22Philip Pape: It can restore your cognitive capacity and all you have to do is close your eyes, eliminate any sensory input going on around you.
- 15:31Philip Pape: Maybe that requires a sleep mask, maybe it requires earbuds.
- 15:37Philip Pape: I have AirPods.
- 15:38Philip Pape: You can turn on the noise cancellation and it just totally shuts everything off and then just exist without thinking.
- 15:43Philip Pape: This is not meditation, if you're like I don't like to meditate, I don't want to do breath work.
- 15:48Philip Pape: No, it's none of that.
- 15:49Philip Pape: It is not napping, it is just neural downtime.
- 15:54Philip Pape: That's it, just neural downtime.
- 15:57Philip Pape: Now I have one more hack for you, yet another bonus.
- 15:59Philip Pape: It's called the coffee nap, and this is to consume caffeine and then immediately rest for 15 to 20 minutes.
- 16:08Philip Pape: Why?
- 16:09Philip Pape: Because the caffeine takes a while to kick in.
- 16:11Philip Pape: It takes about 20 minutes to kick in right as you emerge, and then it creates this enhanced alertness without the grogginess.
- 16:17Philip Pape: That's another thing.
- 16:18Philip Pape: So if you're going to have kind of a small nap, do it right, literally right after you take coffee.
- 16:23Philip Pape: Now, that doesn't work for a lot of us who drink coffee kind of early in the morning, when we're already well rested.
- 16:28Philip Pape: But it's just another hack that I wanted to share with you.
- 16:31Philip Pape: So none of these things work in isolation.
- 16:33Philip Pape: I think the most effective approach combines all of them, where you look at your training schedule and you optimize it for your circadian rhythm.
- 16:39Philip Pape: You make sure your sleep environment is helpful for your body temperature, especially by looking at your sheets.
- 16:44Philip Pape: Go check out those cozy earth sheets.
- 16:46Philip Pape: I love them.
- 16:47Philip Pape: I mean they're super comfortable.
- 16:48Philip Pape: When my daughters and I will like watch TV in bed together, we'll just like throw on the sheets, because they're so comfy, just to watch TV, because they're just that.
- 16:56Philip Pape: Cooling and relaxing.
- 16:58Philip Pape: Maintaining your circadian rhythm by not sleeping in beyond 60 minutes versus your normal sleep schedule All of these can be super helpful.
- 17:06Philip Pape: So I want you to start with the thing that addresses your biggest current failure point, your most immediate constraint.
- 17:11Philip Pape: You know, if you're really wired at night all the time, maybe you're training too late.
- 17:15Philip Pape: If you're hot all the time, look at your sheets.
- 17:17Philip Pape: If the weekends, if you're sleeping in too much and that's causing grogginess down the line, try shortening that window and seeing what happens and then track these changes systematically.
- 17:28Philip Pape: Right, look at your, your latency, the wake frequency, your morning energy and biofeedback, anything you can track on a wearable if that's helpful to you, like your sleep stages, and give it.
- 17:36Philip Pape: Give any change, like seven to 10, 10 days at least, to show measurable effects.
- 17:39Philip Pape: Like anything we do here.
- 17:40Philip Pape: When you're going to experiment with yourself, change one thing and give it a little bit of time to work itself through.
- 17:46Philip Pape: Most of the sleep advice that I hear and see on podcasts are like are one-off hacks or it's a list of 20 things, and I do agree there are lots of things that can be helpful, but I like to look at what is the lowest hanging fruit, what's a big thing that's easy to do, the kind of highest ROI, highest return on investment.
- 18:04Philip Pape: So the things I shared today, I really thought through everything that I do.
- 18:08Philip Pape: I thought through what the experts are telling us, what the research is telling us, and I thought these would be important ones to share.
- 18:13Philip Pape: But there is one more interaction when it comes to sleep that most people are missing, and that is that your sleep quality directly affects your training recovery, which then affects your next day's sleep drive, which then affects your circadian rhythm, and so it's a feedback loop, right?
- 18:27Philip Pape: So that's why I think that's why I wanted to make this kind of an engineering episode, if you will, when it comes to feedback.
- 18:32Philip Pape: Better sleep upgrades the whole system of recovery that we care about, which then lets you adapt better to your strength training, improve your muscle building, improve your body composition, increase your metabolism, reduce fat, enhance your cognitive performance shall I go on?
- 18:49Philip Pape: So sleep isn't just rest, it is actually a foundation that amplifies everything else you're doing, kind of like the concept of upward spiraling right, and I think people get overwhelmed when it comes to fixing sleep sometimes because they think everything has to be fixed.
- 19:01Philip Pape: But just fix one thing at a time, like we talked about today, and then the solution for you is gonna become clear.
- 19:06Philip Pape: Try one of those this week.
- 19:08Philip Pape: Pick the one that addresses your current limitation, track them and then add in the others as you need.
- 19:13Philip Pape: All right, if you wanna go deeper on sleep optimization, I do have a free guide called Better Sleep, better Body.
- 19:25Philip Pape: It's just a simple list of ideas, kind of like the hacks that I mentioned, that I criticize all the time, but it is a list of sort of troubleshooting frameworks and ideas to improve your sleep beyond what we talked about today.
- 19:32Philip Pape: Go to witsandweightscom, slash free or click the link in the show notes for the Better Sleep, better Body guide.
- 19:37Philip Pape: All right, until next time, keep using your wits lifting those weights and remember sleep isn't just rest.
- 19:42Philip Pape: It is the foundation that amplifies everything else you're doing.
- 19:45Philip Pape: I'll talk to you next time here on the Wits and Weights Podcast.