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Heavy Metal and Dirty Donny · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hi, this is Monty Hellman. You're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: It's showtime.
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  Speaker 3: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 3: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences
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  Speaker 3: and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 4: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 5: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian, and
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  Speaker 5: this week I'm joined by my special guest co-host, artist
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  Speaker 5: Dirty Donnie. As you know, I always strive to find
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  Speaker 5: different and interesting people to sit down and discuss movies,
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  Speaker 5: and this week is no exception. Plus, we get to
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  Speaker 5: cross over into one of my other favorite segments as
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  Speaker 5: we learn more about a visual artist, how Donnie got
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  Speaker 5: into art, some of the cool people he's worked for,
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  Speaker 5: and once again, how it all stems from and ties
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  Speaker 5: back to movies. Now as we go along here, you
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  Speaker 5: may occasionally hear Boyd chime in, who I briefly met
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  Speaker 5: that day, and who I believe Donnie had just met
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  Speaker 5: the night before, but he came to hang out with
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  Speaker 5: us as we went along, but he was the least
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  Speaker 5: of our problems. Because you'll also hear some other passers-by
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  Speaker 5: as we spend a good portion of our time dodging
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  Speaker 5: drunken patrons as best we could to get this recording
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  Speaker 5: for you. Sometimes it's harder than you might think. But regardless,
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  Speaker 5: Donnie and I had a great time hanging out and
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  Speaker 5: talking about art, music, and movies. But before we get
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  Speaker 5: going on this week's movie, let's get things rolling with
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  Speaker 5: our first segment as we learn a little bit more
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  Speaker 5: about Donnie, his art, and his geeky interests.
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  Speaker 6: It's time for another installment of The art of being
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  Speaker 6: a movie geek.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to, uh, yeah, I was going to
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  Speaker 4: bring notes and take notes. I was taking notes and I, I, uh,
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  Speaker 4: wanted to be a little more prepared, but, um, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I did, I did rewatch the movie, um, on the
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  Speaker 4: plane and I watched the documentary. I bought the DVD
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  Speaker 4: for like the third time. Um, I have it on Laserdisc.
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  Speaker 5: I have actually three or four copies on Laserdisc and, uh, um,
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  Speaker 5: glad i'm not the only one with laser.
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  Speaker 4: Heavy metal yeah you're you're a laser disc guy um i.
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  Speaker 5: Was originally so i still have boxes of them i'm
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  Speaker 5: just yeah i'm just i've been around too long it's
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  Speaker 5: the problem so now i still have i'm too much
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  Speaker 5: of a geek to get rid of my stuff so
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  Speaker 5: i have boxes of laser discs that i'm like every
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  Speaker 5: once in a while i'll see something i was like
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  Speaker 5: oh i need to re-watch that i have that oh
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  Speaker 5: no it's on laser and the last time i moved
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  Speaker 5: i still had my player hooked up but now it's
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  Speaker 5: just like That's too much trouble.
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  Speaker 4: They were expensive in the 90s.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And they were really cool to have. Like, if you
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  Speaker 4: had a Lasers collection, like, that was, like, really fucking dope.
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  Speaker 4: But I didn't get them back then because they were
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  Speaker 4: so expensive. But when I moved to California, Amoeba had
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  Speaker 4: them for, like, fucking two, three bucks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I was like, well, I'm just going to buy
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  Speaker 4: everything I like. I'm not going to buy everything because
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  Speaker 4: that would be too easy, but I'm going to buy, like,
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  Speaker 4: all the movies that I really liked. And I'm still
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  Speaker 4: looking for a few, but, I mean, I kind of,
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  Speaker 4: I don't pursue the, the hobby these days if I
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  Speaker 4: see something and you know it's like I'm still looking
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  Speaker 4: for I'm still looking for barfly and I see it
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to pay 30 bucks for it I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to pay.
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  Speaker 5: 2 bucks for it that's the thing it's I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: Cheap I just this is funner to get the hunt
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  Speaker 4: and find you.
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  Speaker 5: Know Much like the VHS market now, like it's so
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  Speaker 5: hit and miss. It's like there are places that are
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  Speaker 5: just giving them away because they don't care.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, create a giant collection.
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  Speaker 5: And then there's people that realize, no, there's a market
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  Speaker 5: for this and they're charging $ 40 for a VHS tape.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is crazy.
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  Speaker 4: VHS and myself, it's the same thing. Sorry, not the
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  Speaker 4: same thing. It's actually like I'm looking for very, very
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  Speaker 4: specific like 80s. airbrush cover shitty fucking the.
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  Speaker 5: Cover art's what makes the yeah the tape quality is
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  Speaker 5: not gonna hold up yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah chances of me watching them i'll probably just watch
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  Speaker 4: it on youtube and that might suck but i kind
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  Speaker 4: of wanted more for the tape and the collector value
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  Speaker 4: just having it and hey you know.
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  Speaker 5: It's the artwork physical yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Having that physical like you know it's like just collecting shit.
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  Speaker 5: It's come back around because again i have boxes on
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  Speaker 5: them somewhere but now i'm just like oh when i
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  Speaker 5: finish getting to my new spot i'm like i might
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  Speaker 5: just put them back on the shelf again like I've
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  Speaker 5: gone full circle and now I was like, oh, what
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  Speaker 5: do I need these for? And I shoved them in
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  Speaker 5: a box and now I'm just like, no, I think
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  Speaker 5: I need these back out on the shelf.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Top quality stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So I usually try to go back and kind of
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  Speaker 5: get a feel for how everybody sort of got to
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  Speaker 5: where they are in whatever part of the arts they
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  Speaker 5: work in. And yours is, I would say, art in general.
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  Speaker 5: But I guess that's where I wanted to start. I
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  Speaker 5: always like going back to childhood.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: As you're a kid growing up, where are you drawn to?
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  Speaker 5: Is it immediately like drawing and visual arts?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, as a kid, I had a really hard time
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  Speaker 4: in school. And my mom used to give me like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: did you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't like it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 4: That was one part of my problem.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, totally, totally. And, you know, growing up now and
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  Speaker 4: just realizing that, You know, the school systems, they just
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  Speaker 4: weren't designed to teach people how to learn differently. And
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  Speaker 4: a lot of us are getting that now.
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  Speaker 5: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think now they also.
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  Speaker 4: They gave you a label and it was like, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: Just learn differently.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and I think now they're realizing kids are different. Like, again,
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  Speaker 5: of the kids that I'm around now, there's a couple
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  Speaker 5: of them that are different. and learn things differently and
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  Speaker 5: are super smart but just don't learn things the same
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  Speaker 5: way and like back in the day we were just
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  Speaker 5: like tough kid you know go to school shut up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah if you don't finish your math you
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  Speaker 4: have to bring it home and do homework and it's
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  Speaker 4: a little different yeah yeah yeah yeah they're realizing a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Back then they were just like shut up kid so
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  Speaker 5: yeah yeah yeah so.
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  Speaker 4: Even then you were drawn as a kid yeah my
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  Speaker 4: mom would always have like a pen and a paper
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  Speaker 4: in her purse and Uh, and then I'd go to
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  Speaker 4: like a dinner with my parents and they would draw
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  Speaker 4: on the placement, you know, the crayons and, um, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's always drawing, you know? And, um, so that was
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  Speaker 4: a big part, you know, just, just always into, um,
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  Speaker 4: as a kid, I was into like, you know, pop
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  Speaker 4: culture and movies and, uh, you know, of course like
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  Speaker 4: 80s video games, comic books, uh, everything, everything, you know, like,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, everything that I do now is sort of like,
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  Speaker 4: at some point it's, it stems from my childhood or
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  Speaker 4: like the big kid down the street had that cool
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  Speaker 4: smoking the band and model kit. So, You know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to draw, make a robot version of that or something,
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  Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, so, you know, I always drew. I
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  Speaker 4: was always, you know, creative and drew. And I was
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  Speaker 4: always really into pop culture and, like, all kinds of,
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  Speaker 4: you know, collecting. And, you know, I got into, like,
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  Speaker 4: Iron Maiden in, like, the third, fourth grade. A buddy's
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  Speaker 4: big brother got us into it.
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  Speaker 1: Was it for the music first or the artwork first?
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  Speaker 4: For me, it was completely 100% for the artwork first.
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  Speaker 1: I loved Eddie so much.
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  Speaker 5: And, like, for the longest time, I don't think I'd
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  Speaker 5: even heard the– like, my friend had a poster on
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  Speaker 5: the wall.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he had any tapes of them. Like,
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  Speaker 1: it just became such.
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  Speaker 4: A fandom of the artwork. Music was secondary to that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So, that's cool if you're that old school.
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  Speaker 1: I actually like the music.
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  Speaker 7: No, no.
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  Speaker 4: And then I got into music after.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, but– Yeah, I got into that, and then
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  Speaker 4: later on, you know, punk rock, skateboarding and punk rock,
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  Speaker 4: and started doing record covers, started doing art for bands,
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  Speaker 4: and then eventually led to me going full-time as an
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  Speaker 4: artist in 1997, 98. It's been 20 years, full-time, doing
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  Speaker 4: a lot of, like, underground record covers and posters.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess, just to put it in perspective
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  Speaker 5: for people, just as far as where you've ended up, like,
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  Speaker 5: the level you... Granted, I guess the go-to.
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  Speaker 1: A few people have heard of that Metallica man.
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  Speaker 5: Who all have you worked for, I guess, just to
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  Speaker 5: give people an idea of where you have ended up now?
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  Speaker 4: Recently, the last five... Kind of like my most proud
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  Speaker 4: moments of my career, like the stuff I'm most stoked
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  Speaker 4: on is the last five years, which is my new book,
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  Speaker 4: Pinball Wizards, Blacklight Destroyers. And that's all my newest, latest,
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  Speaker 4: my favorite stuff. And it's like a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: a mix of everything. I basically got... My kind of,
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  Speaker 4: I guess, big break, I was... I was doing a
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  Speaker 4: lot of like really cool, like underground, like band record
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  Speaker 4: covers and doing posters and stuff. But the thing that I, uh,
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  Speaker 4: that when it really hit was when I got hired
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  Speaker 4: by Metallica and that was like 2002 and I was
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  Speaker 4: living in Montreal, Canada at the time. And they, um,
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  Speaker 4: my friend Chip, uh, was a roadie for them and
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  Speaker 4: he showed Kirk and James my art. And, uh, Kirk
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  Speaker 4: was like, Hey, they just bought that building and they're like, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: we want.
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  Speaker 5: The geeky one. He would, he would immediately be attached.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny.
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  Speaker 4: Cause I started working for Kirk and then I ended
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  Speaker 4: up working like later on more for James, you know,
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  Speaker 4: cause like the cars, the car connection and you know,
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  Speaker 4: guitars and cars. And, and, uh, I mean, James was
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  Speaker 4: into like monsters stuff too. Just curse. Just like a fanatic,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like there's monsters. Yeah, totally. Totally. Um, so, uh,
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  Speaker 4: that was very cool. I was like in Montreal and like, uh,
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  Speaker 4: I went to their studio, I was visiting San Francisco
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  Speaker 4: and I went to their studio. they asked me to
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  Speaker 4: come out and show them my artwork. Kirk hired me
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  Speaker 4: on the spot, and I was like, I've got to
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  Speaker 4: go back to Montreal and draw this stuff. I was
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  Speaker 4: going to go back to California to be there for
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  Speaker 4: a long time, so I had to go back and
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  Speaker 4: tie up some of my bills and make sure my
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  Speaker 4: house was properly sealed for the winter. I spent six
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  Speaker 4: months out there painting in San Rafael outside of San Francisco.
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  Speaker 4: Then they went on tour, but that was the big...
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  Speaker 4: I moved to California and that band gave me a
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  Speaker 4: lot of clout for like a few years. jobs. And
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  Speaker 4: I would have done, I would have still been doing
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  Speaker 4: what I was doing without them, but, and I still
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  Speaker 4: would have, you know, like, I honestly feel like I
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  Speaker 4: still would have, you know, been right here doing this
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  Speaker 4: stuff yeah it would have been you know it would
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  Speaker 4: have gone that direction just take a little longer it
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  Speaker 4: might have been that band it might have been another
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  Speaker 4: band or another company or something you know like because
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  Speaker 4: I did do art for other companies that didn't care
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  Speaker 4: about Metallica like step on they don't give a fuck
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  Speaker 4: about Metallica you know and they didn't hire me because
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  Speaker 4: of they hired me because they like my art and
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  Speaker 4: they were just like we don't care about Metallica you
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  Speaker 4: know so anyways but that was definitely a break that
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  Speaker 4: was a.
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  Speaker 5: Cool thing that happened I mean did they at that
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  Speaker 5: point when you were just there like doing artwork were
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  Speaker 5: they giving you specific ideas or did you well Kirk.
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  Speaker 4: Wanted like a giant surf mural of them as monsters
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  Speaker 4: and so uh and then he wanted like some um
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  Speaker 4: at the time some tiki stuff and and he had
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  Speaker 4: a bunch of ideas but then that when I was
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  Speaker 4: painting in the studio they were they were looking for
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  Speaker 4: a bass player and then they found Robert Trujillo but
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  Speaker 4: they're trying all kinds of people out like like Pepper
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  Speaker 4: Keaton from COC and all these dudes were coming through
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  Speaker 4: the studio and like Sean Penn was hanging out of
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  Speaker 4: the studio and he would like walk by and like
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  Speaker 4: I just like you know remember him outside having a
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  Speaker 4: smoke and I was like, Hey, you know, get a
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  Speaker 4: smoke from you. And like, you know, there's Sean Penn
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  Speaker 4: hanging out in the studio. That's, that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 4: And then, um, it was just really, there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people coming and going and their album was coming
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  Speaker 4: out and new bass player. And it was a really
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  Speaker 4: cool time to, uh, to be there. Um, but I
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  Speaker 4: ended up painting like, uh, um, James was like, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: brought a guitar into the room.
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  Speaker 1: Could you paint this?
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  Speaker 4: Like it's new ESP guitar. It's white, you know, like
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  Speaker 4: the ones that I play and like, could you do
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  Speaker 4: this logo for me? So, and then can you paint
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  Speaker 4: my office door and like, uh, and the piano and
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  Speaker 4: It just turned into all these jobs. And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: that's why I stayed for six months. It didn't take
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  Speaker 4: me that long to do the mural. It just kept
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  Speaker 4: wanting art. So that was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 5: And then I guess at what point did the... Because
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  Speaker 5: you've done a lot of pinball art too. So was
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  Speaker 5: that after that, around that time?
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  Speaker 4: The pinball art started... I did this band, The Helicopters.
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  Speaker 4: I did their record cover. They're from Sweden. They're a
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  Speaker 4: love of the band. They're buddies of mine. So me
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  Speaker 4: and Wade Krause... Wanted to do a custom game, so
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  Speaker 4: we took a kingpin and we tore it down. We
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  Speaker 4: made this Helicopters game out of a record cover that
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  Speaker 4: I'd done. And basically, yeah, did the Helicopters pinball machine
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  Speaker 4: with Wade Krause. Showed that to James Hetfield, and he's like,
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  Speaker 4: I want a Metallica game. That's when we met Tonio Kleiss,
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  Speaker 4: who now works for Stern. And Tonio jumped on to
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  Speaker 4: do the programming. So we put Metallica music into a
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  Speaker 4: custom game.
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  Speaker 2: It was Earthshaker.
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  Speaker 4: And we reprogrammed it and had it play Metallica. And
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  Speaker 4: he programmed a game very similar to how you see
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  Speaker 4: games programmed now. And that's how he got the job
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  Speaker 4: because he's a mad genius. So we got that going on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Feel free to sit down. So yeah, so Hetfield bought
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  Speaker 4: the Metallica pinball from us. Hired us to make it.
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  Speaker 4: And then after that, he's like, I want a Beatniks
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  Speaker 4: one for my car club, the Beatniks. So we did
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  Speaker 4: a second one. And then When it came about that
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  Speaker 4: CERN was going to do the Metallica pinball, Metallica were like,
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  Speaker 4: we want Donnie to do the game. And CERN were like, well,
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  Speaker 4: we want Donnie to do the game too. Like we
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  Speaker 4: want someone to hand draw it. So I got that
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  Speaker 4: gig and that turned into like a magical, magical gig.
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  Speaker 5: So how, I guess you started hand drawing everything. Is
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  Speaker 5: that still primarily how you do everything?
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  Speaker 4: Most of the stuff, I can, I do a lot
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  Speaker 4: of airbrushing. I do a lot of, a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of everything. But my main, my main thing is, is
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  Speaker 4: doing ink.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Hand drawing stuff.
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  Speaker 5: And then you usually I'll just kind of see what
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  Speaker 5: people are interested in movie wise. So I guess growing
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  Speaker 5: up in the middle of all that pop culture somewhere
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  Speaker 5: was probably I'm assuming tons of movies. So were there
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  Speaker 5: some like favorites growing up or what all were you
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  Speaker 5: into movie wise?
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  Speaker 2: As a kid?
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  Speaker 1: And into now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Fuck man.
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  Speaker 4: Like as a kid I you know I remember really
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  Speaker 4: like being really little and liking Cannonball Run.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And like, we rented it.
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  Speaker 5: VHS and, uh, I was like, man, this is like
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  Speaker 5: so cool.
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  Speaker 4: And then like the girl, you know, like they get
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  Speaker 4: pulled over in the Lamborghini and I was like, he,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like, yeah. And, uh, Bert Reynolds and, um, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the whole deal, like car, I was like cars as
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  Speaker 4: a kid, you know, and like car movies and, um, man,
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  Speaker 4: I'm totally having a brain fart. But yeah, just like, yeah, like,
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  Speaker 4: like a film buff, you know, just like pretty much like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of stuff.
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• 14:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: A movie geek of some sort.
• 14:19
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  Speaker 4: And when he asked me to do this, I was like, yeah,
• 14:22
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  Speaker 6: It's time for Sofa Theater.
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  Speaker 3: Columbia Pictures presents....
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  Speaker 14: Heavy Metal.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: A trip beyond the future to a universe you've never
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: seen before. A universe of mystery. A universe of passionate fantasies.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: A universe of terrifying evil.
• 20:20
  Speaker 14: A universe of magic. Heavy Metal. heavy metal a step
• 20:55
  Speaker 14: beyond science.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Fiction as a kid um it kind of goes one
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: of the things goes back when i was uh in
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: the third third grade i came back from camping with
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: my parents and in canada they had first choice super
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: channel which was like z channel or hbo here yeah
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: and uh And it was like around three o'clock and
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: they were like, yeah, just watch TV, you know, plop
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: in front of the TV and they were doing their thing.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: And like, I turned it on and it was like,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: this is cartoon on. And, um, I think I, I,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: I got right around the beginning and I was just like, Whoa,
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: this is crazy. And then the den scene comes on
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: and it's like cartoon boobs. And I was like, dude,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: I'm like, Oh my God, that blew my fucking mind.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: And I was like, I went to school the next
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: day and this kid, Jamie Bastion sat across from me
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: and he was like, he's like, Hey, did you see
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: heavy metal last night? I'm like, yeah. He's like cartoon boobs.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: But anyways.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: Little did they know what they sat you in front
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: of and how much it would affect your brain.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I think we all played that game.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: That movie didn't– it wasn't available on DVD until recently.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: I'm sure we're going to cover that. But my friend
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: had a copy of it from Super Channel and VHS.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: So when I was a teenager, like I was like
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: maybe 16– And he was like, yeah, I have Heavy Metal.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I'm like, how the fuck did you get that? He's like, well,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I have it on V8. I taped it years ago.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: It was actually my friend's brother-in-law, and he gave it
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: to me. So I actually was watching it, you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: through my teens. Like, I had a copy of it,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: and it disappeared. But, you know, I definitely got to
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: get my second fill of it, and then, you know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: the third fill would come in when they re-released it.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Every time. And it was because of the soundtrack, I think.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: They had problems with the soundtrack.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Which, at that point, was all of the movies.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: A lot of hand shakes and stuff.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Any of those, yeah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Like, anything that came out.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Even in the theater on some of them, by the
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: time you hit video, like nobody was planning ahead. Nobody
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: thought about home video, like sales, let alone into the
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: future past that. So it's like, No business deals were done.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: A lot of licensing problems.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Even into the 90s, like, all those MTV shows, that
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: was well into where they should have known better, and
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: they didn't license any of the music.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: So, like, Beavis and Butthead.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: And Daria, like, they couldn't play any of those for
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: years because.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Oh, is that why Beavis and Butthead kind of sort
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: of disappeared for a while?
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Well, and then, like, when they came out, even that
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: first run that they came out with, they had generic music, which,
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, the reason everybody liked them so much was
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: them making fun of the videos. But then they never
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: licensed the– because they were just– people just gave MTV
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: music videos. They were like, for the love of God,
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: play our music videos. So they were loving it at
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: that point. But now when it's our licensing game, people
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: are just like, okay, where's our cut for every time
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: you sell a piece of somebody a video?
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all changed.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: It's huge, yeah.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: It became like all of those things they either had
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: to put out with generic fill-in music or they had
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: to go back and pay a fortune to get it
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: all licensed. So now everybody knows better. But yeah, anytime– 80s, 90s.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Tulane Blacktop had a hard time with, I think it
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: was like a Doors soundtrack, a Doors song, and he
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: had a hard time getting that.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: All of that stuff.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. Just nobody thought ahead because there was no
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: reason to at the time.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: That was another movie I wanted to talk to you
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: about too, was Tulane Blacktop. I was like, man, that
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: would be a good one to cover, but it's James Taylor.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we had the director on.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, Monty and Helman. Oh, no way.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: I was trying to make sure that was it because
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: all those car movies become a big blur. It's like
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to remember that that is the right one
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: that Monty directed, right?
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Dennis Wilson from the Beach Boys and James Taylor.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: Both of them in really their only real acting ever
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: for the most part.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: It's an interesting movie.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: State your name for the record.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: That's still admissible in court. Alright, so this week's Silver
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Theater feature is Heavy Metal. The year is 1981. The directors,
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: there's like nine of them, so I won't even rattle
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: them all off. But there are many, many directors. And
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: they plot according to IMDb, and it's very generic here.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: A glowing orb terrorizes a young girl with a collection
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: of stories of dark fantasy, eroticism, and horror.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, it's fine when.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: The orb does it, but when I talk to young
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: girls about eroticism, I get in trouble. It's fine if
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: you're a green orb. Spoiler alert with that. I'm hoping
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: by now you've seen Heavy Metal, but we're going to
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: ruin it, so feel free. Continuing your not-really-available-on-VHS idea, for
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: years here in this town, we had a little... Again,
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: back when they had movie theaters, and it was a
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: theater with one screen, and they would map out their stuff,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: and they were kind of like the cool theater they
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: would play. They had their midnight shows, and it was
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: just mapped out every month on the calendar. And it
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: was at least once, maybe twice per weekend, per month,
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: like midnight showings of heavy metal. And like, that's to me,
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: like that's before I even knew.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: It was a Vogue back in the day.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: And it's like, when I, before I'd even seen it,
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: I knew it was cool enough to be a midnight
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: movie at the Vogue. So I was just like, obviously
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: this is like a cut above most cult movies. It's
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: because it ran that long. And I think all the
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: way up until like, I think till they killed the Vogue.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: It's like, it was still there. It was still one
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: of the regular rotation midnight movies.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: How long did it run for?
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: It ran for, I mean, they, again, they were independent,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: so they just kind of played what they wanted to play.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Say up until again, early nineties, they were still running.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: I'd love to see the theater. I never got to.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right around there.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: And it was still, yeah, it was still a favorite
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: for that. So, To me, that's kind of what I
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: always thought of. It already had a cult following by
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: the time it came into my consciousness. So I'm trying
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: to think how it went over that first time. I
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: feel like, critically, I read it. It didn't do well originally.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: It's another one of those things that only found its
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: following in years to come.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it doubled. I think it was like
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: $ 10 million and it made $ 20 million or something. I
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: It's good it broke even and made some money.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Better than a lot of attempts at being a cool
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: cult movie.
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: I think it's also really interesting where it comes from. Like,
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: the fact that it's, you know, Ivan Reitman, who you
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: don't really, you wouldn't immediately go to for, like, weird
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: fantasy movie, and, like, sort of sci-fi and sword and sorcery, and, like,
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: it's a weird thing, but the fact that it's also got,
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: you know, one of the biggest comedy directors in the future,
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: at the time, he was just kind of getting started, but...
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: It's that weird mixture of National Lampoon meets SCTV meets
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Dungeons and Dragons.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: It has the element of SCTV and it totally goes there.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: It's all of those geeky things of the early 80s.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: The documentary, if you're listening to this, if you haven't
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: seen the documentary that's available with the DVD and the Blu-ray,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: you've got to go and watch that whole fucking documentary
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: because it's really good.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: It's great.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: A lot of extras and stuff.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: It's only slightly noticeable from this end, but I guess
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: from your end, it's coming from Canada. So was there,
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: did it seem like it was, you know, something coming
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: out of your area or did it, cause when I
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: look at it now, I'm just like, it's, it's definitely
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: like the entire group of, you know, voice actors is
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Canadian and like the people they're bringing in.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: So it was, it was, it was a legend that
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: it had been done in Ottawa. So we always thought
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: it was done in Ottawa and, um, it actually, I
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: think it was done in Toronto, but we, we could
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: find that out, you know, do a research and stuff,
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: but it, um, part of it was done in Canada,
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: the animation. Part of it was done in France, part
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: was in the U.S. It was done, like, all over
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: the place. It was definitely a Canadian aspect, because you
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: were like, you knew that was fucking John Candy right there,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: you know? It was like, oh, that's John Candy, you know? Like,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I knew that as a kid, you know? Like, Canadian hero,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: you know?
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because everybody's still sort of drawn to it, and, like,
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: you find... Because everybody always kind of remembers different parts
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: of it, because it's so, like, fragmented.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's so many, like, there's so much going on,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: there's so many stories.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: And And almost everybody goes to the John Candy. I
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: think because he became such an icon of the 80s,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: and this was sort of.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: He played the alien.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the robot in the lawn.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I think him and Harold Ramis, I think they were
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: both throughout the whole thing. Maybe not in every one,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: but they.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Were in that.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Again, I think they're just filling in. We need another voice.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: They were doing taps.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all those guys were doing taps. Or stripes. Stripes, stripes, stripes.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Not taps.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, stripes.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: They were doing stripes.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. And the director, same director. Harold Ramis yeah
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: I think was on there too somehow.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: There's a connection and it's in the DVD it's on
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: the documentary and they explain the connection and there's a.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Connection luring him back to the new voice he was like.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Hey I'm doing this we're doing this movie but I
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: got this other movie called Heavy Metal and we need
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: some voiceovers so he got the fucking you know the
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: SCTV that fucking canadian comedy.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Crowd come lauren john candy over with him yeah yeah so.
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: It's pretty cool it all started when i found the
• 29:42
  Speaker 10: green meteorite i read in faraday's life of the planets
• 29:45
  Speaker 10: that smaller ones like this are supposed to burn up
• 29:47
  Speaker 10: when they enter the atmosphere but for some reason this
• 29:50
  Speaker 10: one didn't so i brought it up to my room
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: stuck it in my rock collection and forgot about it
• 29:55
  Speaker 10: I was experimenting with natural electricity, and with the storm
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: warming up, I figured maybe tonight I'd hit the jackpot.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: All I needed was a little juice.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Well, then I guess we'll get to the other main
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: selling point, because it's funny that it was the thing
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: that drew you in. And the thing that I noticed
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: so much watching this now is just like, it's so
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: teenage boys fantasy movie. Like, it is nothing but boobs. Like,
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: it is just like, I think two of the stories
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: maybe don't have full-on female nudity, but like, all of
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: them it's like I kind of give it a pass
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: because it was 1981 and like you just didn't see
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: that stuff at the time.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: But also I mean I got to point out the
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: main character is a woman then she's like a kick-ass
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: warrior and yeah by the end and she like you know.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: We at least get a good like chick that redeems
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: them you.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Know yeah yeah you know she's like the driving force
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: of the whole movie but I did yeah she kills
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: the Loch Nahr you know.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: We've got a good amount of female co-hosts I kind
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: of wanted to get one in I wonder like getting
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: a take from it as a woman Like, does it
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: have no appeal? Like, there's just so much of it.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: My wife loves it, you know, and she's, like, totally, like,
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: you know, like.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: It's, like, deep-rooted in teenage boy stuff. But I'm also, like,
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: this is a different world now.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's a totally different world.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: At the time, like, yeah, one of the guys on
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: the documentary.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: They were talking about how, like, they kind of, like, they're, like, well,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: the Reagan era happened right after, and they snuck it.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: They kind of, like, we just got it in, you know,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: and it was, like, sort of 70s, like, you know.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think the appeal, like, for me, too,
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: was just that it was just so, like, off-the-cuff, like, just.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: fuck here it is and then we pick stories from
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: the magazine yeah and i think we picked our favorite
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: stories and and they actually they had them made and
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: heavy metal was always like kind of like that underground
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: magazine that you would you'd buy at the corner store
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: and just like i can't believe like i'm allowed to
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: buy this like it doesn't you don't have to be
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: 18 to buy it like you know and like and
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: do you know what i'm buying and you know my
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: parents didn't know what it was and yeah the guy
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: at the store that was selling to me didn't know
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: what it was but um yeah no you know it's
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: it yeah it's sci-fi fantasy comic books like it's but
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: it's adult it's an adult comic and.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: But you can always sneak that stuff in too it's
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: like anything comics like parents aren't gonna read through it
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: certainly not back in the day they'd just be like
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: yeah whatever it's a comic book it's fine for kids
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: and like that kind of stuff even as it got
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: more and more mature like it nobody's take on it
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: changed parents were just like yeah dumb comic books even
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: though you know there's all kinds of cursing and violence
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: and plenty of nudity gets worked in.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: And it's also coming off of like Fritz the cat
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: and all the, all the stuff that, you know, like, uh,
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: that they're doing. And, but like, I mean, it wasn't,
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: it wasn't of that, but it was like, you know,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: that stuff was going on. And, and, you know, for me, like,
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: you know, seeing it as a kid, I was just
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: blown away that it's just like, it covered everything. And,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: and for me now looking at it, it's not like
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: about like the, the, the sexual aspect, you know what
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: I mean? That's, that's cool. That's in there, but there's
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: a lot of other aspects in there. There's a really
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: good soundtrack, really good artwork. And, there's like good stories
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: and it's a bunch of different stories done by different animators,
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: you know, taken from different, you know, comic book artists,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: you know, Richard Corbin and, You know, the whole crew.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Bernie Wrightson. Yeah, Bernie Wrightson.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Which, I guess, did you know any of those people
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: going in? Because now I look at it, it's just
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: like this who's who of everybody. But, like, even on, like,
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: the writing end, but, like, Dan O'Bannon doing stories.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: When I saw it as a kid, like I was saying, like,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: when I saw it as a kid, I didn't know
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: any of those people.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, and later on.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, later on, I started collecting heavy metal magazines
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: more when I was, like, you know, kind of, like, 16.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: And it was, like, probably, like, 89, 90 in. And
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: then I was realizing, like, oh, this is, like, Den. Like,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: I would see Heavy Metal, I'm like, oh, Den, because
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: I know the cartoon. Like, I knew the cartoon before
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: I knew the magazine.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: I was just a kid, you know?
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the way I did it, too.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: It was my introduction to that mag.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: I think I knew there was a magazine, but I
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: don't think I ever really got into it. And then
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: by the time I'd already seen the movie, I'm just like,
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: I was already sold on the movie, end of it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally, yeah, yeah.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: It's hard to go back the other way, I guess, but...
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: I was still buying comics, but for some reason, never
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: heavy metal.
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: I got into underground comics, like when I was more like,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: you know, 16, my, my, my kind of older buddy was,
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: you know, got me into like hate and eight ball
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: and all that stuff, all the fanographic stuff. And then, uh, love,
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: love and rockets and Hernandez brothers. Uh, and then, you know,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: like heavy metal. And that was just kind of along
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: with all that, you know, like it's comics, real comics,
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: real subjects for, I don't know.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Again, they were, probably skating by on just being comics
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: and had.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: Pretty mature themes going on in a lot of those
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: and like you know again kids just reading comic.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Books you gotta go back to that time too and
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: there's just like you know there's like a lot of
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: boring shit and there's like I mean the punk rock
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: is going on and metal is going on but it was,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: you know, it was a different time, you know, it
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: was a different time, like, it probably wouldn't fly right now,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: but maybe it would, I mean, live action would be
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: kind of cool, like if they did it up, I
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: Actually, when I bought, again, I said earlier, I re-bought
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: it because I didn't have, I was like, if there's
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: something I need on Blu-ray, obviously it's heavy metal. So
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: I went, I was like, okay, this is a good
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: excuse to go pick it up. So when I did,
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: the guy selling it to me, who actually I think
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: listens to the show, I think I recognized him, but
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: I think he was selling it to me, he goes, man,
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: I hope they never remake this. And I was like,
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: At the time, I was like, why would you? And
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: we kind of had a sequel along the way. But
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: I'm just like, now that I think about it, I'm like, oh,
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: the live action with a lot of CG. I could
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: almost see them trying to do that now, like a
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: live action CG green screen version of all this. I
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: fear it, but I could almost see somebody wanting.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: To do it. I was pretty, like, not to get
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: on the Star Wars thing, but I was pretty happy
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: with the way that the new Star Wars shit, because
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: when I heard Disney bought Star Wars, I was like,
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: this is going to suck, but actually, like, it turned
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: out really good. You know, the prequels stunk.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Disney is the one that they're doing.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, yeah.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, Rogue One was really good, you know, so
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: if they could do it in that sort of sense
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: where they paid attention to the detail and, You know,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: the stories and stuff.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Again, I'm afraid it would go. And I always say
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: that with anything.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: The right person did it.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: Anything that's like a remake. Like, I feel like what's
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: the point? Especially if you're going to do exactly the
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: same thing. If you're going to not.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: I was like the other way. I was like, it's
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: a shame there aren't more. Because they kept like, even
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: in the documentary, they're showing all these different comics over
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: the years.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, why aren't we? You know, we got
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: like five stories. Like, why don't we have.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: Just a series of those going on which granted at
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: the time it was too much work but it would
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: be interesting now if they wanted to pick it up
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: and do like a new not officially a reboot but
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: again kind of like they did with star wars we're
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: gonna kind of do the same thing we did before
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: only now we've got technology to kind of beef everything
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: up so it'd be interesting if they almost took more
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: now i'm thinking more like a sin city version Where
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: it's like, it's sort of a comic book, but it's
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: live action. They can work in green screen if they
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: need to.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Could be segments too. Could be a live, could be
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: a Sin City style. Could be a, one could be
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: a comic. One could be an animation, you know.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Muppets.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: That's Disney. It can all come together.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Like Meet the Feebles.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Again, I don't know if you can remake Meet the
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: Feebles either. It's its own weird entity.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: I guess what we're sort of.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: I guess it's talking about if heavy metal was to
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: be done. Yeah, a new one. And we know one
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: segment's animated, one segment's live action, one segment's like... Which.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Some of this, that's the thing. I don't think I.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: it's been several years since I watched it. So rewatching
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: and I'm going, wait, I don't think that's animated. So like,
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: I don't think I realized how much of their, again,
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: they're kind of edgy with the way, like they say,
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: like they were talking about it going, we were just
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: sort of making up the rules as we went. So
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: it's like that intro there where we get the car
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: that comes out of the space shuttle and, is a
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: real car and a real guy. And, like, they shot
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: it and it's just sort.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Of drawn over. He has a rotoscope.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: I think that one was even more bare bones than rotoscope. Now,
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: later they get to, like, the John Candy one and, like,
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: the girl at the end. I think they were all
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: rotoscope stuff. But that first one, I think, was almost just, like,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: they took him in, shot, like, shots of him in
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: the car in the middle of the studio there and
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: then just, like, went back and colored it almost.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Like, just sort of hand.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Colored things to give it a little more of an
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: animated look.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: But and then as we went.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: On, I was just like, there are other moments when
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, that doesn't look because then you get
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: to like the what may be my favorite one, the.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Bomber when I love.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: That your favorite one.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: It's so DC Comics. It really is.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: I jump around a lot.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, it doesn't have much to it. I kind
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: of wish it was more of a story. But just
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: for the visual, I also think it has a.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: That scared the shit out of me as it gets interrupted.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Well, no, it's creepy.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: And that's, I think, why I respond to it. It's
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: the one that's horror more than sci-fi on the other ones.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: But I like it, I think, because it also has
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: a really cool look to it. And some of it
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: is just a different style of artwork. But at the
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: same time, if you watch that documentary, they actually built
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: that plane. It's like a 10-foot model.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a model.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: Then they reversed the colors so that they could fill in.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they drew it all the black. They did all
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: the lines in white and they flipped it to get
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: a black line.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: And then they went back and sort of drew it.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: Once again, more painstakingly than just drawing it probably, but
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: they wanted to get a different look on it and
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: get it sort of realistic.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: For the planes.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: When I was a kid, that was my favorite one.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: That was the one that actually scared me and I
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: was like, I could identify with it. I was like,
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: this is really scary. And my favorite, I mean, and
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: then I liked Harry Canyon a lot.
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: That was like a big one.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: It's weird.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: And then I go to, and then Den forever has
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: been my favorite, you know, but I go back and
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: forth and like, but my all time, my favorite favorite
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: is the So Beautiful, So Dangerous, So Beautiful and So Dangerous.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Possibly the silliest one.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: The silliest one, but it's the most like, for me,
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: it's like the most like, You know, they're just tripping
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: out in space driving that fucking, you know, giant that
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: one and the.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: Music that one represents everybody that used to go see
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: it at the midnight movies oh really yeah because i'm
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: pretty sure that was the one everybody's like yeah like
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: they're just like these guys.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: And that ship is so cool and like it's just
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: like it's like the it's the ultimate like for me
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: it's just like the ultimate like this is like they're
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: having a ship spaceship it's like sci-fi fantasy like That
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: one's super cool. I go back and forth a lot
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: and I'll go through, but that's right now. That's my
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: favorite one in that.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: And then I feel like the, the last one is
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: almost the most forgettable. And it's funny cause it's the
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: longest one. So again, I'm assuming half the people like
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: in the theater probably stumbled out and were smoking in
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: the parking lot or something. Like, I feel like that's
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: the one nobody talks about, even though it is the
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: poster art. Like it's maybe the most iconic, but.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: I think it was meant to be the main, the
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: main theme, the big story.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: But, and that's the thing.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: I think I didn't even remember it that well and rewatching.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: And I was like, it's got all the really cool visuals.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: Like it does that fly through that goes on like.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: A really long, like that was the showboat scene.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: They were just like, look what we can do, which again,
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: they built sets for like, they actually built sets to
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: then shoot with a physical movie camera and then go
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: back and actually draw over top of everything. It's insane.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: Like it's, again, it's stuff now that people wouldn't do
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: because it's so much easier. Like you can do it
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: with CG. So why would you, but like, they didn't
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: have that option so it kind of makes it more
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: awesome yeah I think it's part of it that it
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: just sort of it incorporates that geeky obsession of just
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: like I don't know how to do this so I'm
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: going to find a way it's like that dedication to
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: your nerd.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Love yeah groundbreaking that.
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: One looking back and it's funny they all kind of
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: fall into different genres like you definitely get the neo-noir
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: thing in the beginning he's just doing a big film
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: noir detective story only it's set in space new york
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: but like it's yeah.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah talking about harry canyon that was like um you
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: know it's like kind of taxi driver but it was
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: also before blade runner and it was like uh and
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: they and they talked in the documentary about how that
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: you know fifth element definitely grabbed stuff from that you
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: know it's just cool a lot of movies did yeah
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: from that whole movie but um yeah that was a
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: very cool like that's like the travis pickle like you
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: know new york city like future like.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and even the fifth element, him being a cab driver. Like,
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: it really, which still is taken kind of from a
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: Mobius story, isn't it? Or is it, it's another, I
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: know it's from another big French comic. It's the original
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: comic that he took.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: By the way, I'm not, like, a professional on heavy metal.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: I'm not, like, a.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, I, yeah, I'm with you.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: You know, like, I've seen the movie, like, probably, like,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: 50 times. But, and, you know, I got the comics,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: but I still don't know everything about it. Yeah. I'm not, like,
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: I'm geeked on the movie, but I'm not, like, I
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: don't know, like. you know, everything about it. So I'm
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: not like, I'm just, well, that's kind of why I
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: was just like, I just want to talk about this.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I like figuring out a movie and just like, I
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: almost don't.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Want to know everything about it. You know, like I
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: know enough and I enjoy it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: I think I like knowing the extra stuff that they did.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: Like I, again, I don't think I remembered how much
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: of it they did rotoscope. So they really did take
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: all these actors and like use them as like a
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: model almost to go back and get real human movements and,
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: So that didn't seem so weird and awkward, especially her
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: at the end getting dressed. And like, that's all very, yeah.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: It's like, it's good to know that they put that
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: much work and time into it. When again, now I
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: feel like that probably wouldn't happen anymore.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: It's genius how they did it, you know, going to
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: different studios and having like, you're working on this story
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: and you're working.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: On this story.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: But again, being kind of ahead of its time. Cause there,
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: there's also another shot that I was like, it is,
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: they're going through trying to, it's one of those in
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: the middle there. And like, it just does a landscape
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: and then you see a creature eat another creature and like,
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: I'm like, that's very out of that shot from Return
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: of the Jedi and it's like, that was two years
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: before Return of the Jedi.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: It's right about when Empire was coming out but it
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: was before, I don't remember any of those cheesy like,
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: shots of the landscape and animals and other animals.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of people at that time in
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: that world were on the same kind of page, you know, like,
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: everyone's kind of dipping from the same pot, you know.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Lucas had to have seen this. He had to know
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: half those guys probably so it's like, I feel like,
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: because even that's something I think he returned to. I
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: think there's a shot kind of similar to it again
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: in episode two. So it's like, I feel like it
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: is one of those things. He's kind of, he likes
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: that landscape showing the planet before the action gets there
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: kind of thing.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: And like, you see that with Heavy Metal.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: They do that a lot. Yeah, probably.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: But again, I think this is so, so iconic at
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: this point that like, I feel like of the geeks
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: who saw it, they all went on to make their
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: own thing. and started kind of taking from it. So yeah,
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: I think that's, yeah, I think that's definitely part of it.
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: But yeah, that, um, it does kind of hit all
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: the genres too. Cause then that last one is a Western.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: I mean, it just, she goes into a saloon with
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: swinging doors.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: She's kind of the, they talk about it in that documentary. Again,
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: I go back to that, but it's like, she's like
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: the Clint Eastwood character, you.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Know, and doesn't talk to me the entire time.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: You know, hits that guy with a mug. And when I,
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: when I rewatch it the last time, which was on
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: the plane coming here, I, um, I noticed a lot
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: of stuff I didn't notice. I was really looking at
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: backgrounds and stuff going on and so neat, you know,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: just to kind of like, there's all those things that
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: you don't see. They put a lot of work into it.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: I actually, um, I actually own, I bought one of the, um,
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: animation stills in the film and it's, it's, uh, when, um,
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: the den scene when they're sacrificing, uh, the girl.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Into, okay, into the pool or whatever.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: And, um, I was like, I gotta, I gotta buy that.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: Came with a sketch, came with the, uh, the animation
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: cell and, uh, I've got another one of the guy
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: in the beginning of the movie when they're searching for
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: the Loch Nahr. And there's a guy with a metal detector.
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: And he's trying to find it.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: And I've got one of those shots of him. So
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: it's kind of cool to own that. I've also got
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: a heavy metal at Comic-Con. I bought it about five
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: years ago. I bought a painting. And it's not a cover.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: I checked with some of the guys at Heavy Metal.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, I got this thing. And I think
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: it was for a T-shirt or some like ad or something.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: But it was like this kind of shitty but awesome airbrushing.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: And it's... Original era offshoot artwork.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: It looks like Bridget Nielsen.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a robot girl of Bridget Nielsen. She's a
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: robot girl with like short blonde hair. And there's a girl...
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: And there's a girl... She's looking into a pond and
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like her reflection is a robot. It's
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: kind of cool.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: I was like, I gotta buy this.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I can't remember that being part of that original run.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: So that's cool, finding that stuff. But there are such
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: iconic shots. Like to me, the one that always.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: And again, maybe more of the horror aspect that the
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: shot of the girl when the orb starts talking to
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: her and that green glow and that horror on her
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: face is like so.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: The little girl at the beginning.
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: It's so like amazing.
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: Like to this day, like it's still kind of like
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: such a horrific image that I'm like... They just kind
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: of knew how to play all of that stuff.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: When I was a kid too, I saw it. I
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: was like probably that girl's age, I guess.
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Probably third grade, you know. So like I was like
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: could have been someone from my class, you know. So I...
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: connected you know it was like this is like scary
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: you know yeah this is like not a it this
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: isn't like a feel-good you know some of it is
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: but this is like a slightly horror too you.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: Know it's it's kind of a downer movie i mean
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: if you're not again i think that's why it worked
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: as like everybody goes and gets stoned to watch it
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: because like watching it like you get to the ones
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: in the middle like the um what's the space court
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: and the one with the captain stearns Oh, yeah, the
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: kind of stern one, yeah.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Like, it is so weird.
• 46:47
  Speaker 9: Oh, that's rough.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: It's the Bernie Wrightson one, so it's like the artwork
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: looks great, but by the end, you're just like, so
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: everybody just screws everybody over. Like, money fixes everything. Everybody
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: screws everybody over.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: And stabs them in the back. Yeah, there's so many, like,
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Stephen King elements. And, yeah, it's just, like, the storytelling's, like,
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: so twisted, you know? Like, EC, Stephen King, Creepshow, you know,
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: that sort of thing. You know, like, EC horror, like,
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: very cool.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: And watching the.
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: captain stern when i'm like that's zap branigan from futurama
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: is like he is that guy it's just like they
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: turned him into an ongoing character but like he's still
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: like square jawed you know super walking testosterone like he's
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: just like full of himself and kind of a jerk
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: but yet again he achieves all the goals because he's
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: manly man and like that was kind of funny scene that.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: What a great ending to that to that scene yeah
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: i mean that was like so another ec shocker it
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: was like whoa damn it's like the big crazy dude
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: like ah.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah and again the little nerdy guy just kind of
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: gets screwed over like yeah kids get used to this
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: like this is how life works yeah the rich guy
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: took care of his problems and then screwed you over
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: anyway yeah so again it's got it's got some pretty
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: grim moments in there if you go looking for them
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: but yeah i don't know i there's so much to
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: it that like I am.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: I like the, my favorite, I think, scene, like, or
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: my favorite part from that is, like, as a poster, like,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: I like the poster that they did, but I would have,
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: I prefer the ship, you know, from, you know, so beautiful,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: so dangerous, like, that ship, like, would have been, I
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: don't know, that's, like, so iconic, you know?
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: Even, like, because, again, that poster has become so iconic
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: over the years, but I'm like, that, really isn't what
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: she looks like in the movie. Like I kind of
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: think she looks so much better in the movie.
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: It doesn't look like she doesn't have that crazy hair.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: I got a feeling that somebody was hired to draw
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: that being like, here's some like drawings in the movie
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: and we're not done the movie yet kind of thing,
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: which happens to artists. You get the job and you
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: get to do a job, but the actual job you're
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: working for ain't done yet.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Like kind of like, you know, just wing it,
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: do it your way, which again, it has like super
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: eighties hair and like, she's just, you know, long hair again.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: She's more of a seventies girl in the hair, but yeah.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: it's just sort of old school long hair, but like, yeah, it's,
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: it's a weird punk rock thing going on on the poster.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: So yeah, totally.
• 49:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Somebody was trying to do their own thing.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Yep. And she has like blonde hair on the poster
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: and she's got white hair.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: Or that weird two tone white hair on white hair. Yeah.
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: Which is a cool look actually. Cause yeah, I think she,
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: I think they said she was supposed to be blonde originally.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: Like it's, I kind of like the look they give
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: her there.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: So the soundtrack is... It's kind of funny because they...
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Not funny, but it's... I like the soundtrack a lot.
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: I think it's fucking amazing.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: When I hear those songs, those songs bring me back
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: to the movie. Oh, yeah. And, you know, I bought
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: the record... of course, on the record. I have a
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: few of them and I'm like, I play it all
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: the time. And when I, when I play it, when
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: I'm doing my art, when I'm drawing and stuff, it like,
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: I get the movie vibe, you know, it gives me
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: that movie vibe. And that's, it's kind of like what
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: they did. I think it's like, it's sort of dangerous
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: because you almost date yourself in a way. If you're
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: going to do a movie, they have a good score.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: The score is amazing. But if you're going to throw like, uh,
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: like modern day music at the time, um, you're going
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: to throw modern day music into a, into a movie,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: you run the risk of dating yourself. But I think, um,
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: Maybe because like it was like disappeared for so long
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: because of the licensing rights for the music. They weren't
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: able to put it out on video or DVD until
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: like the 90s. I think they were when it came back,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: it was like, this is perfect. You know, like it's
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: like sort of like. We hit that weird wave.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: It's like, you know, you had that stuff kind of
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: went out and then by the 90s and especially like
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: the later 90s, like it all became cool again.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: How a lot of it happens to everything. It happens
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: to everything, yeah. Everything that's super rad goes away and
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: it's like becomes douchey to everybody but then it comes
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: back and that happens to fucking everything. It happens to
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: video games, it happens to fucking pinball, it happens to
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: like every band that's cool, you know, like it comes back,
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: you know, in like different generations and, you know, people
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: get older and, new kids come up and discover the
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: tunes and it's like, this is cool.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: So it's, yeah. So that they, they, they won on
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: that level for sure.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: You know, like, and I really like it again for
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: future reference. I started a spinoff show that is just
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: music from movies. So you're welcome on there anytime too,
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: but we just kind of pick stuff for movies. And like,
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: that's kind of half the reason I wanted to do
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: that because I think it is a weird little like
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: alchemy that comes together when it's like the perfect soundtrack
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: that goes so perfectly with the music. and the movie
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: and like it creates it creates its own little world
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: like when you listen to the soundtrack it really does
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: fit because you're saying that reminded me it's like it
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: really does put you in that mindset of like what
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: was going on in the movie and then just sort
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: of like your your state of mind when you saw
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: the movie like it still works as like its own
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: little like time travel like as soon as you were
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: listening to the soundtrack you're just like oh yeah i
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: remember the first time i saw this movie like it
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: it all kind of works as its own weird thing
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: So that was one of those, like, it also shows
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: that you're a huge movie property when you have more
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: than one theme song.
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: Because there are two heavy metal songs within the same soundtrack.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, I think that, you know, Sammy got
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: more of the attention, but listening to it now, that
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: Blue Oyster Cult song is so damn cool.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: All the songs, you know, all the songs, like, all
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: of them, you know, I just, like, I hear any
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: one of them, like, any time, and I'm like, heavy metal,
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: you know, brings me back. And probably a lot of
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: the people that were doing the soundtrack started doing the
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: songs at the time were like yeah whatever i'll just
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: you can use this song you know but like they
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: probably didn't realize it but like you know a lot
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: of people uh reference their you know like sammy hagar
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: shit you know it's like dude you were in heavy
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: metal that's like you.
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: Know the soundtrack might outlive your band like sometimes that
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: happens yeah yeah but the uh they're also like again
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: they're at that time period and they're kind of straddling
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: both ends of music again they've got black sabbath on
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: there but they also had devo on so it's.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: Like they're kind of moving into.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: That weird like what the 80s would bring with it
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: as they just kind of heading into the 80s there
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: and it's like we've got our old school like you
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: know sammy hagar and black sabbath and we've got those
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: kind of bands but we're also kind of working in
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: the weird 80s that are coming towards us so the
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: fact that that this band playing in the uh the
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: saloon more or less is sort of modeled after deep
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: like that's where they're playing that other song of theirs.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: It's a weird band.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: To be the weird band that Devo was.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Again, you got to go back and realize that like
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: anything that came after that didn't exist yet.
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: So if you can go back and realize, and that's
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: with a lot of movies too, right? If you can
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: just kind of like, okay, when this movie was made,
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: everything that happened after it didn't exist. So, you know,
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: think about that, you know, because you can go back
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: and like criticize and be like, oh, they should have
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: done this, they should have done that. But, you know, man,
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: like to get a project like that done and, you know, that's,
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I think it's really cool.
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: You know, And that they actually like, it's not like
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: they just happened into all this, like listening to Ivan
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: Reitman talk about it. Like he was purposely planning all
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: of this. Like he really was sort of pushing the
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: envelope and knowingly doing so. He's like, I, I, you know,
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: I had a comic mind I wanted to add. I
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: was pushing really hard to make sure we added some
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: comedy in there because it's, it would be pretty serious without,
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: you know, that's, it's a good mix it's a total
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: yeah i mean that that the the one with john
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: candy without his voiceover is probably pretty damn serious like
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: if you just have the story without his like modern
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: day 80s teenage kid take on it yeah like it's
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: pretty grim but like a lot of stars aligned you
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: know you had him and it's like it's it's all
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: of a sudden it's funny now because it's john candy
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: and he's talking about his dork.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: And yeah yeah that's the part everybody remembers yeah yeah.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: But it's also like it's it's pushing the the envelope
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: on the when he talks about his dork.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: Sorry to interrupt but it's like it's like of course
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: he says that because like my fucking third grade you
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: know brain was like like my dork hanging out like
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: that's yeah of course I didn't even think twice about
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: it I was like yeah of course like I just
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: don't want to be here like naked you know like.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Well, again, it taps in so perfectly that, that mindset
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: of like, you know, every third grade kid is like,
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: you know, this is what they're looking for. They're looking for,
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: you know, naked girls and swords and monsters. And like,
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: it just sort of taps into like all the things
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: you're probably not supposed to be into, but you know
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: that you are anyway. So yeah, I think that still
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: kind of works. It's, it's very of its time period
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: and very gender specific, but like, I think it is
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: funny now. Like, Again, the other stuff. Like, he was
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: very specific about the music, too. So, it's like, there
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: were a handful of movies that started doing that, that
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: started tailoring. Like, the 80s would become synonymous with, like,
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: the names of the bands on the poster, like, above
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: the stars' names. Like, they would put more time into
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: building the soundtrack sometimes for this, like, G-level movie that, like,
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: they were going to bring people in with just the
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: soundtrack because they didn't really have very good actors. So,
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: it's like, you saw that happen a lot in the 80s,
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: but it hadn't kicked in yet. So, like, this is,
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: once again, like, somebody with forethought going... I'm going to
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: put together this really great soundtrack with all these bands
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: of the moment. And like, I'm going to tailor it
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: very specifically to go with this movie.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: And this is a generation before ours that did this,
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: you know? So like, I mean, our generation, of course,
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: and other generations do like things differently because they've got
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: stuff like that to build on. And, you know, it's like,
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: you can, you know, everyone realizes that it's like, yeah,
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: it's like, you know, sky's the limit and the world's
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: your oyster. But like, you know, uh, back then, yeah,
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: they definitely, you know.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, really all they had to go on was Baschke.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: Like he's, He's really the only person that was doing
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: anything that wasn't kiddie-oriented animation.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep. He was.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: Yep, it was.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: And his was just weird.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: He was the dude.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was weird. It was fucking weird. You know,
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, looking at his, like, documentaries and stuff, it's fascinating.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: He's like, I just... I got sick of, like, working in,
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: you know, like, the kind of, like, Saturday morning cartoon
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: style or, like, you know, kind of light, fluffy, fun
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: movies for kids. Like, I want to do stuff for adults, like,
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: people my age, like, cartoons because, you know.
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: I don't think I realized he was that straight-laced.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Because I did. I just knew him from all that.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: And he had quite a few movies that were weird and, again,
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: very cult-oriented. So I assumed he just sort of came
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: up and started doing his own thing. But, like, yeah,
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: going on IMDb and then looking back at his other credits,
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: I'm like, he is all kinds of generic Saturday morning
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: cartoon stuff. He's... heckles and jackals he's doing that kind
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: of level.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: Of stuff it's very mainstream he got sick of working
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: in the studio you know I'm just going to do
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: my own thing and his Wizards came out at the
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: same time as Star Wars you probably knew about that
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have covered that in
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: your podcast.
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: We haven't done a full episode on it but yeah
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: we've I've talked to William Stout over the years and
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: we're going to do another episode with him I'm working
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: on so yeah I know he did the poster art
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: for it I think he did some of the other
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: like artwork on the side for them so it's Star Wars.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: Came out, and that came out, and it was the
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: same company, and, like, they were built, you know, around
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: the same time.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: Because everything from that point on kind of wanted to
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: be that.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Like, you hit this.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: This is, like, the turning point.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: Like, everything, again, not necessarily mainstream Hollywood, but everything on
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: the fringe, like, became... We want to be a cheesy
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: sci-fi movie or we want to be a sword and
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: sandal movie. And like, so you get those early days
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: of VHS that are just nothing but bad medieval sword
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: movies and like everybody sort of copying these things that
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: kind of took off. Conan did well. So yeah, that was,
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: that was, yeah, we have a hundred other knockoffs.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, that was like, that was for that genre.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: That was the essential, like, you know, that was the
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: bar to reach for, you know, they, they raised the bar.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: But there was like, you know, Krull and all that,
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: you know, like Beastmaster, which were like the, you know.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: You can't talk bad about Beastmaster now.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: You cannot. No, I'm not. I'm not. I love Beastmaster.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: I know how cheesy it is, but God damn, I.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Love that movie.
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: It's great.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: It's great.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: I love it too. But there was like, you know,
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: there's so many of those movies and like, I mean,
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: and those were kind of like the higher ups, you know.
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: But there's so much bad shit that came out, which
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: is awesome too. I love all of that.
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: Well, it is interesting. Yeah, Conan had a real director. Like,
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: they really, like, it was a studio back.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's really passionate about it.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: It was a real, like, it's almost, again, we actually
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: did an episode on that recently.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Like, it's like an arthouse movie.
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: Oh, you did? Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: And, like, it's surprising how non-schlocky popcorn movie it is.
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: It's weird and arthouse for a good portion of it.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: Conan was a perfect time. You know, it was Dungeons
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: and Dragons.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: It was the biggest thing, and it was, like, Conan
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: the Barbarian, like, Boom. There it is. There's a D
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: & D movie.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it hit the Schwarzenegger thing right when it was
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: catching on. So then like fans found it just because
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: it was Schwarzenegger and it's got people getting their heads
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: lopped off and blood and gore. So it's like it,
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: it works, but I'm like, I think it's funny now
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: looking back at it. Like I feel like a lot
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: of the people, if they saw it cold.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Would be like, Oh, I don't know. This is kind
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: of boring.
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: Like it's, there's long stretches where it's just being weird
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: and artsy and like.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Again, you go back to the time
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: and whatever, nothing, you know, there wasn't anything else.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: Anything after it didn't exist yet. So, you know, it's like, uh,
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: you know, like watching old movies, I'm sure you agree.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: You gotta, you gotta go by that rule. Just like,
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: just put yourself in that time.
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: And sometimes I like them more because it's not feeding.
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: Like now everything almost seems so postured towards, you know,
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: whatever it's, whatever it's trying to, not that Hollywood hasn't
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: always worked on, you know, this is our gimmick.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: We want to make money. That's what they would do.
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: But I feel like now it's so pinpointed as to,
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: you know, this is our, our special tween comedy romance angle.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: And we're going to work in this horror crossover.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Like everything is so pinned down.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: As to what it's supposed to like appeal to certain
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: audiences and how much money it's going to make back.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: And like, I feel like coming off of the eighties,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: they were still kind of winging it and being like, well,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: we want to make money obviously. But, here you're an
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: artist go make a thing and like now you don't
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: always see that now it's a lot more studio controlling
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: everything that yeah a studio would not make heavy metal
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: the way it is now like.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: Of course of course of course yeah yeah yeah.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: I'm hoping yeah somewhere down the line somebody put something
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: together and give somebody some freedom to do that i'm.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: Sure they're gonna go for like a third you know
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: i'm sure they're gonna try to do a third i
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: you know uh yeah i won't i don't even want
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: to get into the second one but but um um
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: you know i'm sure if they did did it now
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: um I mean, it's got potential.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Like, there's so much you could do.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: It would be very cool if they went back to
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: the old and been like, hey, we're going to go
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: for like, you know, when the mag started up to
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: like 83 and we're going to pick stories from that era,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: you know?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: That'd be cool.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: I love the Lochner. And you know how they talk
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: about the Lochner, how it's like this way to tie
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: the movie together. It needed to be tied together. And
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: in the documentary, they kind of cut on it a
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: little bit. They're like joking. They're like, oh, we did
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: this silly Lochner. We just need to string it together. Yeah,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: but I thought, you know, as a kid, I still
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: think like the Lochner was really cool and it was like,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: Kind of something that I thought that, like, you know,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: this could be a way to tie more movies together.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: It's like this Loch Nahr, you know?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: Well, it's, yeah, I mean.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: It seemed like a last-minute thing. Like, it could have
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: been tied together a little bit better, but it's great, and,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, did you see the thing about the carousel?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: The original framing?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was going to be a carousel,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: and she got on the carousel, and she would.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: It's still cool, but it definitely does not have that
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: sci-fi fantasy vibe to it. Like, the Loch Nahr definitely is, like, super...
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: especially by the end when they bought it like on
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: the headpiece on a scepter and like, it's so like
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: works its way into all the, all the fantasy stuff.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I painted that.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: So the side of my, I have a custom van. Um,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: and you can see on my website.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: I was 73 Dodge van. You can see it on
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: like my, in my book and on my website and shit. Um, anyways,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: 73 Dodge van. And I got a wizard on the side.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: It's called Vandalf, but he's got a sphere and the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: sphere is green, glowing green. So he's actually, that's, I drew,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: I put the Loch Nahr on my van. So people
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: were like, Hey, he's got that wizard ball. I'm like,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: that's the Loch Nahr. It's the, And I'm getting my
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: motor rebuilt for my van, and I'm getting the motor
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: painted green, so I'm going to be like, there's the
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: Loch Nahr, dude.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: Is it going to glow green when you open it?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, man, I might throw some LEDs on it, just like,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: not in a cheesy way, but just to kind of like,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: it's a Loch Nahr, check it out.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Just follow the green glow.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, exactly. I would have loved to do a
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: heavy metal van, that would have been cool. My friend, artist,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: Von Franco, he actually painted a custom van in the 70s.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: He's an old school artist, still paints today, but he
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: did one, and he has rad pictures of it, and
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: he did like a heavy metal van, airbrushed the whole thing,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: and Um, but I, I would love to, you know,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: do a heavy metal van at some point, you know,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: probably so dangerous. So, you know, so beautiful, so dangerous. So,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: so just the ship across the side. I might actually
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: put the ship on the other side of my van.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking about real small, you know, just like, there
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: it is, you know, but I would love to just, yeah,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: wrap a, like not wrap an airbrush, a whole van.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: Like, you know, well, I think the thing, I mean, it's,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: I think the Lagnard works because it's just so creepy
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: next to the girl. Like everything with, especially in those scenes,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: like it really is creepy.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 13: Do not try to escape.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 8: You are in my control.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Look at me. I am the sum of all evils.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 13: Look carefully.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 8: My power infests all times, all galaxies, all dimensions.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 12: But many still seek me out.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 6: A green jewel they must possess.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 12: But see how I destroy their lives.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: What works so well also is the, cause then I
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: was like, I had to check and see it's Percy
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: Rodriguez is that voice.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: That voice is amazing.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: Like he was doing like voiceover for like the trailer,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: And they were just like, no, no, no, no. We
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: need that voice.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: Like, and I think that ups it quite a bit
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: that I'm just like, if it were just there and
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: green and, you know, just glowing, like without, even if
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: it had another voiceover, like again, they'd pick another silly
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: voice from SCTV probably. So it's like the fact that
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: it's got this weight to it with that voice, you're
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: just like, oh shit that's evil.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: Like that's bringing up another one another cartoon or like
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: animation film that I thought was great when it came
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: out was Transformers the movie it was so dark and
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: they had Orson Welles the real Transformers yeah yeah the
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: real Transformers exactly yeah yeah.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: When they killed a whole bunch of robots yeah that
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: was rad it totally ruined kids lives.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: I know that was like sort of like I'm like
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: this is dark this is kind of heavy metal-esque you
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: know this is like kind of crazy I still like
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: that movie and watch it sometimes.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: And Again, it was the 80s. You could make stuff
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: sort of for kids that was horribly inappropriate.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: I look back now and I'm just like, you can't
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: show kids any of these 80s movies.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: It was a good time to grow up, man. No
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: bicycle helmets. We just drove our BMX bikes.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I just scared myself.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: I was covered in scabs and banged my head so
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: many times.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: Obviously, my bike was the Evel Knievel bike. The one
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: that had the plastic gas tank. Oh, you had the
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: plastic gas tank with the shocks.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: That was my bike. My buddies down the street had
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: them and they were like the older kids and I
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: never had, I had the ET style BMX. But before
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: that was, right before that was the shock, the bike,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: those bikes, the shock. And I used to, I would
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: drive my buddy Chris's bike and I would just, I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: would drive it into a curb, flat on. And the
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: shock absorber, you could just like go over a curb.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if those were real shocks. I swear.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: They were.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: They were real shocks. That one had shocks?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: They had springs on the back, shocks on the front
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: with a fake plastic gas tank. And they had, I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: think the seat might have had a spring or it
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: was those.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: It did have a cool, yeah, it had a good
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: size seat. It mostly wasn't one of those dorky little
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: bike seats. Like it was a cool motorcycle seat essentially.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: But yeah, that was me driving off the front of
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: our curb every day.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: Or into the curb head on.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Into the curb. Only a few times, you know. On
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: the Loch Nahr, I wanted to see.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: Because I feel like, again, we just sort of touched
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: on the fact that it is the ultimate evil, essentially,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: by the end. And it's so... I still go back
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: and forth on what I think on the cut scene.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: The Neverwhere Land.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: Have you watched that whole sequence?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was really cool.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: It's awesome.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: I can't decide... Because that's what they said. It kind
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: of brings the movie to a screeching halt there for...
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: But I'm like, it's not really long. I feel like
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: if you.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Put in different music.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: Because there's no spoken word, so it's very silent there.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: That might have been a really good, like, credit roll
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: kind of thing. But the credit roll is really cool
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: because they go through all the.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Scene by scene.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: Scene by scene. Yeah, which is really cool to watch.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: But I feel like that's so.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: They were saying that the movie is already, like, so
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: long they had to cut it out. And it was
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: sort of like it didn't flow, you know? But it
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: was a really cool thing, you know? But it is
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: on the, you know, the Blu-ray DVD and, like, on
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: the extras and stuff, which is really cool.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: And it's one of those, but that totally shows, like, how, like,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: evil it really... Like, it is, like, the ultimate evil
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: of the universe, so much so, like, in that story,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: it goes into a brand new planet and just continues
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: to build on evil and evil. And each thing that
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: comes up, it becomes, like, part of the evil that...
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: every generation like it takes over as like the ultimate
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: evil and worms its way into these horrible characters that
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: come up and eventually we'll probably destroy the planet so
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: yeah it's yeah i thought that was kind of cool
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: because i think you don't really know what to think
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: of it otherwise it's just like this thing keeps showing
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: up and it's it's not good but we don't really
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: just like at the beginning you're like is it just
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: radioactive like what the hell is it so it's like
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: it doesn't quite pin down how much it really is
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: the ultimate evil without that scene and It's just kind
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: of like, stay away from that thing, basically.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: Totally, totally.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: And we're thinking that when people find it in the movie,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: you're like, don't touch it.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Don't touch it.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: And they always touch it.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Later, it's okay to touch it.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: So it's like, it changes its own rules. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: The rules change in different worlds, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. Very interesting.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: And I don't want to overthink it, you know, but
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: we are, but it's cool.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: Crazy, crazy.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Well, let's see.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: So the very 80s moments, I thought, though, the fact
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: that it's got to be the 80s because there's Coke references.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Massive Coke references.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: And then the other one I thought was, again, it
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: being kind of ahead of its time, watching that car
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: and the guy, the astronaut in the car was like,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: it feels so much like the MTV, like the cutaway
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: scenes with the astronaut guy and the weird choppy animation
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: that I'm like, That's before that happened. MTV had just launched,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: I think, that same summer. So again, MTV kind of
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: like what would then become the thing for all pop
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: culture for the next 10, 15 years is still kind
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: of taking a note from this movie. So I feel
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: like everybody kind of looked at this thing and sort
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: of took what they needed from it.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they broke a lot of ground. There's so much
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: going on. you know it's like uh totally i.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: Think the the end like i think it has that
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: moment and it's and it's in the uh it's in
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: the den when is the moment that i think once
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: again is maybe the most specific to the fan base
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: of geeks because by the end he's just like I'm
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: staying here in my fantasy world.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he drops the lockdown, which is awesome. He's like,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: I don't need that.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: It goes back to Earth. I'm staying here.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. On Earth, I'm nobody, but here, I'm dead.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: It is, once again, that message that I think parents
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: were so worried about back then, because it's like, my
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: life in fantasy, and it's better than my real life. So, like,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: kids getting lost in D & D, like... I think
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: it is kind of.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: That moment of, like, yeah, real world sucks.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: I'm staying in fantasy world.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: And, like, again, jumping ahead to, like, people playing World
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: of Warcraft. Like, it's kind of that same thing. Like,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: my real life sucks, but World of Warcraft is great.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: So we see it kind of, like, already sort of
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: planting the seed for those things we're going to find anyway.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: So, again, geeks, we take wherever we can get it.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: We'll take respect wherever we can get it, even when
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: it's not real.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: Hey, man, shout out to Monty Hellman if he's listening,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: if he listens to that. And you had him on,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, Tulane Blacktop's my other favorite movie.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: He's awesome.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: I think he's done that movie for years. And not
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: to jump over to a different subject real quick, but
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: when I was working for Metallica, Bob Rock was the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: producer and Bob's from Canada. And we bonded right away
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: because we're both Canadian and hung out a bunch. And
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: Bob and James, or James Hetfield, Bob Rock, James Hetfield
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: were both. super super geeked on two lane blacktop yeah
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: and the three of us would just we'd talk about
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: it and bob was getting a little 55 he had
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: a 55 chevy that he bought and it was all
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: like painted pretty like red and white and he bought
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: it and he's like he's like i'm i'm i'm tearing
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: this fucking paint off and i'm doing i'm gonna make
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: a replica of i haven't seen it but i saw
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: that his motor around the corner in maran uh getting
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: blueprinted and seraphel getting blueprinted we went over we talked
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: to the engine guy and And he was trying to
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: come up with the, you know, the bread box for
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: the blower.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: The cowl induction that they have in the movie. And
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: he was trying to, like, he was like, does this
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: look correct? And he had, like, a cardboard, you know,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: and me and James were looking at it. We're like,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: that looks about the size. You know, but we couldn't
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: tell how to, what exact size it was. I'm sure
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: someone's done it now, but this is, like, 2002 or 2003. So,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: you know, everyone just had email. And it was like,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: you know, like, you have the internet and email?
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: But, yeah, he was making that and putting it on
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: the car. So, Bob's got this crazy, like, I think
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: it's a nitrous car, but, um, um, and I, like
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: I said, I only saw it when it was getting built.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen it since. And I haven't, I hadn't
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: talked to Bob for years and I recently reconnected with him. Um,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: but I haven't talked about his car and seen what
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: he's up to with the car. But, uh, Monty Hellman, man,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: Bob rocks, uh, you know, he's, he's, he's, he's built one.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Monty was like so cool. Like I was, I was,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect going in. Cause again, he's,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: he'd worked in all different types of like, he did like.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: You know, schlocky B movies and then he does like
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: kind of artsy movies and like, he's just super laid
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: back and cool.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: He's definitely one of my hero directors, you know, and
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: if you're listening, man, right on dude, you know.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: He's very cool.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. I think like Warren Oates is like my
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: favorite actor. You know, I want to get a painting
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: of like Warren Oates just like, you know, with the,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia, like just like.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: From here, if you didn't know.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: Is he?
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 7: Warren Oates.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: He was Kentucky born, yeah.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, he's, I do know that.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: We want to.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: He's not from Louisville.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Louisville exactly, but he's somewhere
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: in Kentucky.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's Kentucky born. That's right. I'm reading his book
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: Because we have, one of our co-hosts does the Harry
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: Dean Stanton Fest.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: He's from Kentucky, so she's always like, you.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Really need to do a Warren Oates dress.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, whatever.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: If we can put it together.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: Harry Dean's out there. He's listening. Harry Dean, what's up?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: He's hanging in there. Another cool old dude.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: He's awesome.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: Have you guys done Tulane Blacktop?
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: No, not in its entirety. We just talked to him
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: about it briefly, but if we can pin it down.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: Be a good one. there's a lot of good ones
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of good ones I think you're gonna
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: have a podcast for a long time that's.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: Why yeah that's why I like you know it makes
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: it a little harder when I'm like okay pick a
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: movie but one we haven't done before because then everybody
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: wants to go to the same ones but I'm like
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: man if you branch out there's so many awesome movies
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: that like we haven't addressed yet what are the same
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: ones that people want to go to I mean somebody
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: immediately like knee jerk was like I want to talk
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: about Jaws and I'm like okay, but once again, it
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: was kind of like the Blade Runner thing. It was like,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: Jaws is huge. Like, can we wrap around everything that
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: Jaws encompasses?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, dude, I got a Jaws guy, Chris the Bodyguard.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: He's like got the biggest Jaws collection in the world.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you know him, but I can
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: hook you up with him and he would, if you
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: did a Jaws one, like Chris is a guy to
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: talk to and he's friends with Kirk Hammett. That's how
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: I met. I met Chris through Kirk and he's like
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: a giant like movie prop collector and he has some
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: stuff to do with like horror fests, but he's got
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: the biggest Jaws collection in the world and he's got
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: the buoys and like all kinds of shit, but He'd
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: be the guy to talk to about Jaws.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: Well, we've also had the guy who built the shark.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: We talked with him.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 7: Oh, really?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, so you guys have done Jaws together.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just different, yeah, different people.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: But, like, he had such amazing stories because, like, he
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: ended up being the director of the third one. And, like,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't hate the third one. The second
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: one's got problems. But, like, the third one's just weird
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: and does its own thing. But, like, he was on set. Like,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: he was helping build the shark. He was on set,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: you know, when Spielberg was still, like, kind of a
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: kid like you know still kind of figured out what
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: he was doing so it's like it is kind of
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: cool just sort of hearing these stories on it so
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: yeah to me it's always so hard when people pick
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: huge iconic movies but i'm like yeah pick some weird
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: one that nobody's done before so that's that's what i
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: like when people just sort of go some weird left
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: turn that i didn't see coming so there's plenty of
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: movies out.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: There heavy metal heavy metal.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: That's the way to go which in its own right
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: is super influential so So we'll wrap up here with,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: much like on the end of the movie, once again
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: doing a really weird thing. Because I watched it and
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: I went, that house that just blew up, that was
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: a real house.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: They built a tiny Victorian house.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: They blew up a dollhouse, right? And blew it up.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: Because I'm like, those are real pieces flying. Like, that's
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: not animation.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: Like, that was a real house.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 9: They just blew up.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: So once again, blowing shit up. That's how you know
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: it's a cool movie. They're blowing shit up.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: So that's the end of the movie.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: She flies off.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: Go fight evil somewhere else, as we're now going to do.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: So where do you fight.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Evil in the world? Tell people more.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: Where they can find you and what all you're up
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: to in the world.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: Right now, I live in San Francisco, California, from Ottawa, Canada.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: I've lived in Montreal for a bunch of years. My
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: studio is basically from home, San Francisco. I work on cars,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: all that stuff. Right now, I just finished the Aerosmith
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: pinball machine I finished last year, and it's just coming
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: out now. I've done art for a bunch of pinball machines.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: for Stern and my next jobs are I got a
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: couple of kind of like small things I'm working on
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: like personal projects and I'm going to do a little
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: bit of art for Thrasher Magazine and and uh tony
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: vitello uh the owner of thrasher um sent me an
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: email actually like about a month ago and he's like
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: hey uh this is tony from thrasher and uh i
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: live around the corner from you because i see your
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: van all the time so that one with the wizard
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: right yeah i was like that's fucking cool so he
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: came i'm like well when you're done work why don't
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: you like you know when you're off like come on
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: over and we'll hang out and so he he stopped
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: by my house a few weeks ago and we talked
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: so i'm gonna do some art for thrasher which is
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: awesome you know skateboarding and uh you know he's a
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: local guy at school i'm like damn we haven't met
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: like it's crazy we haven't met like i know some
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: of the uh ed riggins uh one of the partners
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: in thrasher retired recently and but tony's the he's he's
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: you know he's the main one of the main main
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: main guys over there so um that's that's i'm excited
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: about that project it's super cool and i got a
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: bunch of bunch of projects on the go i i'm
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: totally having a brain fart but that's one of them
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: and Booked out for the next year or so, but DirtyDonnie.com
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: is my website. Got a book, Pinball Wizards, Blacklight Destroyers.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: Book's brand new. You can get it on Amazon. Got
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: a new coloring book and my website. Always got new
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: stuff going on, but thanks for having me on your podcast, man.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: Thanks for being on the show, man. We had a
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: lot of interruptions. It was kind of funny. We had
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: to move like three times.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: We relocated.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Fought off drunk dudes.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, and it's not late. It's like.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: Middle of the day drunk dudes.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. It's like four in the afternoon. That puts
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: it in perspective. Yeah, this is a big convention. There's
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of games here. And there's like, yeah, there's
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: drunk people wandering around. So we found a fucking corner.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of conventions. I am not surprised.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: That's usually how these go.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: But yeah, otherwise, thanks for being on, man.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: And otherwise, that about does it.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: We will turn next time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 15: Let's cruise a while, leave the trouble far behind. You
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 15: can hedge your bet on a clean corvette.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 8: To keep you here a long time. Now if you're
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 8: ready to dive into overdrive, baby, we might be wrong.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 8: It's like you're running away on some high-octane. Every time
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 8: you need to fall apart. Don't you take a ride, ride, ride,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 8: ride on heavy metal. It's the only way that you
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 8: can drown. Bye. Bye. Bye. It's fight, fight, fight, fight
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 8: on heavy metal. Baby, won't you ride, ride into it?
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 8: You know, you just can't lose the.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Way she moves.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 8: It's not a big surprise to feel your temperature rise.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: You've got a picture of life for you.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 15: Cause there is too much of you that there's no
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 15: one for sure. You just become.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 8: A heavy load of the reader. Won't you take a ride.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 6: Ride, ride, ride.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 8: On heaven's end. It's the only way that you can travel. Satisfied, right, right,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 8: right On heaven and soul Baby, won't you ride Ride
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 8: until it's blue.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: So, as I mentioned at the top of the episode there,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: we had a lot working against us this week, most
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: of which were loud, drunk people. So here, if you'd
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 5: like to stick around for a few extra minutes, it's
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: just a sample of the type of, well, as this
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: person eventually put it himself, dickheads we had to endure
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: in trying to put this episode together. Plus, Donnie thought
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: it was kind of funny that we had captured these
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: precious moments. Now keep in mind, Donnie is also recording
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: video of all these events on his GoPro for some
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: video segments that he's putting together on his site. So
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  Speaker 5: if you're into that sort of thing, enjoy this. I
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  Speaker 5: tolerated this guy as best I could. Oh, and by
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: the way, in case you were wondering after the fact, yes,
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  Speaker 5: his friend's shoes eventually ended up about 10 feet in
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  Speaker 5: the air next to an AC unit. Yep, it was
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  Speaker 5: one of those weekends. So, for better or worse, here
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  Speaker 5: you go.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, it all kind of stems from that, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And I started doing art full-time. Should we do a pause?
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  Speaker 1: I guess so.
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  Speaker 5: Until the yipping goes by.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Uh-oh, there's some trouble.
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  Speaker 5: There's always some characters, Lord.
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  Speaker 4: That room has got a... So we're in the... What
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  Speaker 4: is this? It's like the pool area of the luxurious
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: Ramada Inn. Four floors of glory. And one of the
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: dudes has got a room full of fucking pinball. He
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: took all the furniture out of his room and it's
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: all pinball machines in there.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 4: It's a fucking arcade and that's where he partied last night.
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  Speaker 4: It's pretty funny.
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  Speaker 5: So is he still sleeping there? Just on the floor
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  Speaker 5: curled up next to the pinball machine?
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  Speaker 2: That guy got wasted.
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  Speaker 4: That guy was wasted at like four.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: What's happening?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there they are.
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  Speaker 4: These are the guys from last night. You're going to
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  Speaker 4: break my hand, man.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a pussy, dude.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, man, Corey Hart, dude.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see you inside.
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  Speaker 1: Can't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of cutting out.
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  Speaker 2: I would have said we get that a lot.
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  Speaker 4: We were in that room, and then we came outside,
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  Speaker 4: and those are the guys that were sitting right here, wasted.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they're kind of wasted still. I don't think
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: they stopped.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure this is not a new session. It's
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: carried over to the next day.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll have a little bit of editing to do. No, no,
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  Speaker 4: I've been up early, man.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm on California time still.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see you inside.
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  Speaker 8: Whoa!
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  Speaker 9: This is going to sound weird, but what do we
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 9: got going on here? Recording.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: We're doing a little video. We're doing a podcast on movies.
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  Speaker 9: Ooh, what movie?
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 4: Heavy Metal.
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  Speaker 3: Heavy Metal.
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  Speaker 9: What other movie?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: Heavy Metal. Heavy Metal.
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  Speaker 9: Man, I feel real bad about interrupting this. But I
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 9: came with that whole group, so.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: It's cool.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 9: What's Heavy Metal about?
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: It's a cartoon.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 9: Did I miss the whole thing?
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the best cartoon.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Definitely have to see it.
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  Speaker 9: That's built into another movie, right? I don't think so.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: It's an iconic... No, no, no. This is like 1981.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: It's like an animation film. It's like a crazy rad.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: You gotta see it. Go watch it.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: It's good.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: It's John Candy and a bunch of people.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 9: Shut up. It's John Candy?
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: He's in there, yeah.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 9: I thought I saw a John Candy movie. What character
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 9: did he play?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: He played a bunch of them.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: We just talked about that, actually. Yeah, he did voiceovers
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: for characters.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 9: So what you're saying is I want to sit down
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 9: and talk about all the stuff you guys already talked about?
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 9: Man, I'm a dickhead. At least all my other friends
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 9: just walk by.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of awesome, though, you know, because it's like
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: we're doing this kind of live and we've moved twice.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: We're on the fly. Every time I sit down, an
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: asshole's here.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 9: Hey, don't worry, because I'm going to sit down and
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 9: try to record.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know. Be the asshole. Hey.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 9: Be the asshole who interrupts me.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: Well, he's the guy that's got to edit it, so
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: I'm just like.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 9: Oh, let us talk, because... Did you see that guy
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 9: passed out over there on the lounge chair?
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  Speaker 7: No, but.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't? No. Oh, I have his shoes.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 7: Oh, you did?
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: You should throw them in the pool.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 9: I'm with him.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh-oh.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 9: We record together. He's the asshole that has to edit, so... Yeah.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 9: I'll take his life miserable.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: You guys do the podcast?
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: Right on. You should bring your podcast over and.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: Hey, Dave!
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: Dave!
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: When we're done, we should do part two. Oh, sorry. No, no.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: After we're done. Don't worry, Dave.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 9: I do the same thing in our podcast.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: What about Phil?
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 9: Phil!
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: Phil! Oh, man.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: I've got to fucking get this.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: Birthday by Phil!
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Too much.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 9: How hard would it be just to grab everything and
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 9: walk into that room? Would it be hard?
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: It would not go well.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Fuck it.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 9: Are you guys not safe for work? Oh, never.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 9: Never you're not safe for work or you're never safe
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 9: for work?
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: Both.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 9: Then I apologize for all the swear words.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: Dirty Donnie.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: Dirty Donnie?
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: Dirty Donnie.
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  Speaker 9: You have hand sanitizer? My friend just passed out over there.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 9: We're in this courtyard. We're trying to own it.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: I think you are.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: I think it belongs to you. I think you should
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: tie those shoes together and.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: You should throw them over.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: So he's got to go find them.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 9: You know what? They're not my shoes. Fuck it. Where
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 9: do you want them?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: Fuck those shoes.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 9: I'll tie them together. Put the video right here.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: I'll tie them together.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Fuck this.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 9: Hell yeah.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: What the fuck?
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 9: Is that going to be on help?
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: We'll take it to the room after. We'll come back
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: out for.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Some more action.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, now I'm really nervous. Close the door. I don't
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 9: want to be a part of this. Alright, where do
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 9: you want them?
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: How about right up there?
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 9: Fuck you, Sean. I'm throwing your shoes over to the balcony.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: What do.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 9: You got? Come on, man. You got it.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: A little more mustard.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 8: Almost.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: Almost had it.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 9: Alright, one more trap.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 15: Alright, three more traps.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: How do you want to trap?
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 9: You gotta chuck them like a set of nunchucks.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: Don't do that, because then.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 9: I'm going to start dancing with them.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: Don't do that. Give me those fucking shoes.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 9: Don't do that.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: Give me those fucking shoes.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 8: It's not so great for your podcast.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: No way!
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 6: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
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  Speaker 6: edited by The Oddity Studios. with opening music performed by
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 6: the Empires. For more on how to sponsor or support
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: the show, email producer at moviemeltdown.com.
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  Speaker 2: Talk hard!