Latest / The BioHub - by Avetix / Steve Butts - CEO Arrivo Bio at BIO Boston 2025
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- 0:04So I'm here at Bio in Boston, and I'm here with Steve Butt,
- 0:08who is the CEO and founder of Arevo Bio Ventures.
- 0:12Just give me a bit of context on yourself, Steve.
- 0:14Thanks Max, Thanks for having me.
- 0:15It's a pleasure. I'm a biotech entrepreneur,
- 0:19serial entrepreneur, had a number of companies over the
- 0:21years. We have a great team.
- 0:24We're based out of North Carolina in the Research
- 0:26Triangle Park area. We, what we do really well is we
- 0:31identify early stage assets that can you know add value to
- 0:35patients, caregivers and physicians and we move those
- 0:38along. Typically we move them through
- 0:40proof of concept into early phase three.
- 0:42And then we have historically found a larger pharma to take
- 0:45them the rest of the way and commercialize.
- 0:48We founded a RIVO in 2016 and with the goal really of
- 0:54identifying four or five assets that we felt like really could
- 0:59be game changers for the practice of medicine and put
- 1:05together about $50 million and went out and went shopping and
- 1:09we ended up with a portfolio of products that we're really proud
- 1:12of. We've had we have two products
- 1:15that we're developing now. We've got our lead asset, which
- 1:18is a product called for Biservat.
- 1:20For Biservat, the code for it was SP624.
- 1:24It is for a major depression is the first indication.
- 1:27However, it's a completely novel mechanism.
- 1:30It's a Cert 6 activator. We're the first company to ever
- 1:32put a Cert 6 activator into a depressed patient or frankly any
- 1:36patient, and we're very excited about the possibilities here.
- 1:40It's an epigenetic mechanism which is really novel and unique
- 1:45out there. And what we found is, is that it
- 1:48seems to be preferential to females and not males.
- 1:52What's unusual about this is, and some recent work has come
- 1:56about to show that males and females, when they're depressed,
- 1:59they actually express the same gene in opposite directions.
- 2:02And so if you have an epigenetic drug, you're likely to impact
- 2:07one sex and not the other. So we're excited about this.
- 2:09We're in a large phase 2B3 study, and we'll see if we're
- 2:13right. And if we're right, this will
- 2:14really change the way people think about depression.
- 2:17And our second asset is a product called Robbie 767.
- 2:20It's for severe acute pancreatitis, it's in phase two
- 2:24study very early still, but there are no treatments for
- 2:29severe acute pancreatitis patients died from this disease.
- 2:33And really all we have is fluids and pain management for these
- 2:37patients. And so this is another one that
- 2:39we can can deliver or really make an impact on how patients,
- 2:43how patients are treated and and the family, you know the
- 2:47families of those patients will be able to kind of keep their
- 2:51keep their loved. Ones, yeah.
- 2:53That's a little bit about Arivo and a little bit about the
- 2:56products that we have. Yeah, that's awesome.
- 2:58How do you like when you're looking at new products, how do
- 3:01you decide? Yes, they're the ones that we we
- 3:03are best to to bring in and look up.
- 3:06It's a great question. And you know, we're a small
- 3:08company and so, but we have some pretty strict criteria.
- 3:12We've, we've looked at hundreds of products to bring in the ones
- 3:15that we're working on and our criteria, first and foremost it,
- 3:19it needs to offer a significant improvement in patient care
- 3:24through the eyes of the physician, the treating
- 3:27physician as well as the patient.
- 3:29It also needs to have a clear regulatory and development
- 3:32pathway. And that may sound a little bit
- 3:34unique, but as a small company, we don't have the resources to
- 3:39take a completely new indication that no one's ever studied and,
- 3:43and take years to kind of sort out how you're going to develop
- 3:46that drug and work with the FDA. The the third piece of it is it
- 3:50needs to be something that we can manage.
- 3:52We've passed on a lot of great assets over the years, not
- 3:55because we didn't think they were technically good
- 3:58opportunities, but because they were going to require too much
- 4:02resource or too many too long of a time period for a little
- 4:06company like ours to do. And so, you know, take something
- 4:08like Alzheimer's, you know, those are huge studies.
- 4:11They take a long time. That's not something a little
- 4:13company like ours can take on. And then the final piece of it
- 4:16is as we like to be able to find something that we can answer the
- 4:20questions that we need to answer in order to attract a larger
- 4:23partner who has commercial capabilities to take on the
- 4:26asset along the way. So you know, we don't have
- 4:29commercial capabilities right now.
- 4:31I mean, so it's important for us when we're looking at an asset
- 4:34to be able to go, hey, you know, can we actually answer the
- 4:37questions that a large pharma player or a mid pharma player is
- 4:41going to need answered so they would be comfortable taking this
- 4:44asset on, Yeah, before we get to commercialization.
- 4:48Typically when when do you bring these assets in?
- 4:50What stage are they at? Yeah.
- 4:51So the typically what we bring them in is when they're ready
- 4:55for the clinic, OK. And that's what we did with both
- 4:57of these assets. So we brought these assets in
- 5:00and filed the Ind and then we ran the phase ones and you know
- 5:04are now running patient status. OK.
- 5:07And we're at Bio. So what, what does a successful
- 5:11week look like here at Bio? Like what?
- 5:13What are the the main goals I guess?
- 5:14Yeah. No, I think this is a fun bio
- 5:18for us in that we're currently in the middle of our studies and
- 5:22so we're not transacting on anything.
- 5:25So we can spend our week meeting with interested potential
- 5:30partners down the road. Yeah.
- 5:31Share with them what we're doing.
- 5:32Share updates on how our enrollment's going.
- 5:35Talk to them about our science in a kind of a more relaxed
- 5:38environment. Yeah, just get on their radar.
- 5:40Just get on their. Radar, you know, just have
- 5:42conversations and I think everybody relaxes in those rooms
- 5:44when you're like, hey, we just want to tell you what we're
- 5:46doing. Yeah, Yeah.
- 5:47How do they react when you've got 2 assets that are very
- 5:50different? Do they normally some interested
- 5:54in one and not the other or so on?
- 5:56It's a good question and we're a bit odd from that perspective,
- 5:59so I appreciate you asking the question.
- 6:01So we're structured a little bit differently in that Arevo Bio or
- 6:05Arevo Bio Ventures is a holding company.
- 6:08I mean it essentially holds the cash and then each one of our
- 6:11assets is in a wholly owned C Corp subsidiary.
- 6:14So that allows us maximum flexibility.
- 6:17We're able to raise money in those different C Corps if we
- 6:21decide to, we can partner individually, we can sell those
- 6:25C Corps individually. So it allows us flexibility to
- 6:30partner when it's time to partner, raise money when it's
- 6:32time to raise money. And if someone's not interested
- 6:35in both, then we don't have to, you know, get into a situation
- 6:39where we're going to sub optimize one of the assets
- 6:42because we have to sell everything together.
- 6:44So we've learned over the years, this is, you know, our fifth
- 6:47company. We've been, you know, we've
- 6:49we've learned all the lessons along the way.
- 6:51We always joke that one day we'll get this right.
- 6:53But but yeah, that's how we're structured.
- 6:55Yeah, I think it's super smart and it makes sense when you
- 6:58have, I mean completely different assets.
- 7:01But but also I don't know how much you thought about this when
- 7:03you were bringing them in like super on trend assets in terms
- 7:06of the the area they're in and if on trends may be the right
- 7:09word. But you know, like depression,
- 7:11for example, it's just a topic of conversation all the time.
- 7:14All the time you. Know and it's you know, when we
- 7:17looked for assets, you know we really wanted something that
- 7:21that was a high unmet need for and depression, you know and a
- 7:26lot of the neuropsychiatric indications are now back in
- 7:29vogue. Now we've been developing drugs
- 7:32for neuropsychiatric indications for a long time and we've been
- 7:34kind of in and out of popularity along over the years.
- 7:37But we believe that there is a huge need.
- 7:40I mean, depression is an epidemic worldwide.
- 7:43And despite the the treatments that are coming along, we still
- 7:47haven't solved the problem. And so for us, you know, it's a
- 7:51personal matter. You know, everyone knows someone
- 7:53that's been touched by depression.
- 7:55And so we, when we saw this asset and we thought, you know,
- 7:58this was a novel mechanism that was something that was you could
- 8:01attack it from a completely different direction.
- 8:04We just felt like we needed to do it.
- 8:06Yeah, Yeah, I think so. And we were talking about that
- 8:10earlier in terms of your motivations, why you do what you
- 8:13do. Yeah, you know, it's, it's nice.
- 8:16I, you know, I've been in the industry for over 30 years and
- 8:19it's great to get up every morning and know that, you know,
- 8:22what you're driving to is improving patients lives.
- 8:25And it's great that we can do well while we're doing good.
- 8:28But you know, it's, it's exciting for us when we, you
- 8:32know, get up in the morning and we talk to key opinion leaders
- 8:36or we talk to advocacy organizations, you know, and you
- 8:38can, you can see how excited everyone is about the
- 8:42possibilities here. Yeah.
- 8:44And that's what it's all about, right?
- 8:46Yeah, how we found it as a smaller company in in what is a
- 8:51tough environment at the moment. Yeah, we've been, you know,
- 8:55we've been very fortunate. It is a very tough environment
- 8:57and a lot of my colleagues are, you know, struggling right now
- 8:59with funding etcetera. But we've been very fortunate.
- 9:03We have a great group of investors who believe in us and
- 9:06believe in what we're doing and they've been supporting us for
- 9:08years. And and so we've been fortunate
- 9:11from that perspective. You know, we do have to be very
- 9:13mindful of the environment right now and make sure that we are
- 9:17being extraordinarily efficient with our spend.
- 9:20And, you know, it's one of the things that we see with the
- 9:25environment now is this, you know, we would love to be doing
- 9:28even more, but we want to make sure that we have the ability to
- 9:32survive. You know, if the market doesn't
- 9:35continue, you know, you continues to do what it's doing.
- 9:37Yeah, you know, not been positive.
- 9:39That's exactly it. Yeah.
- 9:40So look, best of luck this week. Yeah, great.
- 9:42Thank you. It's been a pleasure to have
- 9:44you. Thanks for having.
- 9:45Us. Yeah.
- 9:45Thank you very much, Steve.